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point three right now, the world radio premiere of the

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new single from Barron Kismo.

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Speaker 2: This is called easy.

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Speaker 3: By Yeah goes up again. You're trying to find the

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battles last. You are betisy, you are easy.

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Speaker 4: Now you poo your bit.

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Speaker 3: Stop rather you will reason. You want any reason? Word

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up your mind, trying to see it as it is.

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Goldict now now yeh jan go ractify you had sided person,

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He goes up for again. You're trying to find but

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the battles lost. You want to reason. You will get

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a reason. Now you pulling every drop that side your head.

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Stop going out any he said, go ain't he said.

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Speaker 4: Of your man.

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Speaker 3: Change you see it as it is? You're it Dix

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now now ye change gorat by what you have started. Hey.

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Speaker 5: This is Mark Winters out on the Good Vibes Highway Tour,

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hanging out in Manchester, New Hampshire with Matt Connerton ninety

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five point three FM w m n H having a

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blast and hanging out.

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Speaker 6: Welcome everybody, here we go.

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Speaker 1: It is that time again Matt Connorton Unleashed and we

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are live from the studios of w m n H

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ninety five point three FM and Glorious Manchester, New Hampshire.

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Of course, streaming everywhere Matt connorton dot com slash live

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for all your live streaming options, social media links, contact info,

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show archives, et cetera, et cetera. Today is a Saturday,

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October fourth. Wow, already well into October, well a few

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days in. But time goes quick as we plunge into fall.

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Speaker 6: But I am not alone. Good morning, Jenny is here

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at the news table. I am president account for and

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I'm looking at a blue screen.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, your computer is giving you trouble. Uh well,

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all right, I am present, yes, yes, and joining us

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live in studio today. Let me get that mic up.

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Speaker 6: Singer songwriter Mark Winters this year.

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Speaker 7: Hello, Mark, what's shaking?

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Speaker 3: Matt?

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Speaker 6: Welcome to the program.

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Speaker 7: Oh I'm loving it here.

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Speaker 5: It's so beautiful in the area. And I have to

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say I really love the tagline for your show. That's

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pretty awesome. It's got a biggest story behind that.

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Speaker 6: Well yeah, I don't, oh you know what it was?

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Speaker 1: So when back when I started, because I started it

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as a podcast in twenty eleven and then in twenty seventeen,

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I had the opportunity to bring the show here to

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wmn H been here ever since. But originally it was

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just I called it unleashed because I was used to

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being a co host on other people's shows and now

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is starting my own show. So it's going to be

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where I'm just gonna do, you know whatever, say whatever

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opinions I have, et cetera, and people can like it

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or lump it.

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Speaker 6: You know, I'm going to be truly unleashed.

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Speaker 5: I love that unleashed. Yeah, that's I feel like sometimes

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I'm in the same boat. I'm all about the positive vibes. Yes,

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most singer songwriters are a little more moody than I am. Yeah,

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I have to control how much I unleash all my

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positive energy.

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Speaker 1: You know, right right, you're currently on You're on a

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How how long is your tour? You're going all over

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the place.

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Speaker 5: I had sixty five days of awesomeness. Okay, good vibes

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Highway tour headed east out of Houston, Texas, down the

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Gulf Coast and then up the Eastern Seaboard up into

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Canada and then back down through the central US.

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Speaker 7: To to Texas. Okay, wow, where do you live based

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Speaker 1: Town, based in Houston. Okay, yeah, is this your first

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big tour like going as far as you are?

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Speaker 7: My second?

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Speaker 5: So spring of this year I did a West Coast tour,

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first time going out that direction as well, and kind

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of learned the whole tour culture and how to be

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on an extended tour. And this is the second one

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that I'm doing here in the fall, and I loving

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loving being out on the road, loving sharing the energy

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with everyone that I meet. It's it's an amazing way

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Speaker 6: Yeah, no doubt, no doubt. We're glad you're here.

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Speaker 1: Well, so you've got your guitar and you're gonna play

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in a couple of minutes. But I think we're gonna

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play this. This is the new single right, Man in

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the Sky.

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Speaker 7: Man in the Sky. Yes, it's uh.

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Speaker 5: It's about one of my daily rituals. I wake up

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in the morning with a cuff of coffee. I love

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to watch the sunrise. I love to be out camping

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and nature. It helps me set my mind right for

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the day before I turn my TV on or before

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a certain pep I pick me up in my step

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if I start my day that way. And the track

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and the vibes and the lyrics are all about just

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enjoying that fresh moment, you know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, outstanding, all right, So let's play this. This is

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called Man in the Sky and this is Mark Winters.

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Speaker 8: Woke up this morning and this guy is my God

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main ish FASTI in my mind somewhere in the car.

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Speaker 4: Calling, look up, looking, look.

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Speaker 8: Up, the journeys all around, even when the clouds.

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Speaker 4: Are passing by, talking to the plane of in the sky.

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Speaker 8: In the meadow, green soul, bast answer read were daisy

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is bloom and the air so clean, standing on around.

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Speaker 9: Getting ready take a walk, look up, looking, look out.

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Speaker 8: The journey's all around, even when the clouds are passing bars.

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Speaker 10: Talking to the man of in the sky, talking to

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the man of in the sky, feeling like a song on.

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Speaker 4: The oro.

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Speaker 8: Oh either in the clouds of pers in fo.

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Speaker 4: Talking to the mana in the sky, talking to the

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man of in the sky, This like song of the

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old bro.

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Speaker 1: That is Man in the Sky and that is Mark Winters.

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And we have Mark Winters here with us alive in

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studio on this Saturday. Great track, very very catchy, I

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love all the music you sent us. And we have

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another song too that we're going to play at the

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end of our segment today, another great studio track. But

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before we go any further too, for those who are

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watching online on your platform of choice, whether it be

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Facebook or YouTube or even we even stream on LinkedIn.

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But I want to show off for the camera. This

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this rubber bracelet or what's the term. It's a risk

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band wristband.

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Speaker 6: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: I was blanking on the name, So tell us about

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this so that it says think like a proton, always positive,

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which I really like. And it's got your it's got

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your name on it, of course, Mark Winter. Good good branding.

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Speaker 6: But but but yeah, tell us about that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm you know, I'm my undergraduate degrees in aerospace engineering.

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I took a a left turn at Albuquerque and became

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an artist instead. But I did practice for a little bit,

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and my brain has always lived in both the world

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of poetry and science. And so when I think about,

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you know, the world, a lot of times I think,

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you know through those both of those lenses, And when

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I rolled out.

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Speaker 7: The glass was always like half full.

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Speaker 3: For me.

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Speaker 5: I always see the world in a positive way. When

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I meet people, I look for the good in them.

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When I sit in a songwriting circle, I look for

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the best of everyone to try and combine it together.

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I've always had that sort of positive view of the world,

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and it's hard.

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Speaker 7: For me not to put it in my lyrics.

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Speaker 5: And so when I show up to play a show somewhere,

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my goal is to create more positive energy for everyone

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who's attending a show for me. And if I've done that,

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then I've had a great day and I feel like

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I've contributed to the universe.

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Speaker 7: And my Grandma would be proud of me for for

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making the world a little writer.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's outstanding. Can you tell us you a little

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bit more about your background? And by the way, so

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I am someone who you know. Jenny was talking earlier

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about how she's not good at things like math and science.

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I'm the same way, although Jenny's better at math than

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she realizes because she does that amazing macrima.

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Speaker 6: And I always say, what's that? It is math? It

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is math, it's it's me. It's geometry, Am I right?

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Speaker 7: Geometry? It's applied physics?

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Speaker 1: Yes it is yes, see, So there you go, there

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you go. An expert is is master. Yes, so so

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she's and she's incredible at doing that. But like I can't,

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you know, I was always math and science were always

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very hard for me in school.

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Speaker 11: You know.

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Speaker 1: I excelled more with with reading, comprehension and writing and

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things like that, and history I was good at. But

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math and science I was always terrible at.

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Speaker 4: But what what is it that?

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Speaker 1: So obviously you're you know, really good at those things,

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but what is it that that brought you into into music?

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Speaker 7: Right, it's my it's my thing. Yeah, it's my vibe.

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Speaker 5: So in twenty eleven, I wanted to do something musical

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and never had done anything artistically. My grandmother, when I

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was five, had taught me to write poetry. So my

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whole life I've been writing poetry, which is amazing. I

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think that created the sort of juxtaposition in my brain

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of all these thoughts because I started with her. My

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inclination was math and science, and so in twenty eleven

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I put it on the list, I'm going to do it.

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I bought a guitar from a local guitar shop and

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on the sly I learned to play a song for

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my wife for anniversary, okay, And I thought, oh, three months,

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there's plenty of time to do. Go from nothing like

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no musical experience to performing a song for my wife,

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which was quite a bit to bite off. I buy

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out later. But the guitar shop guy was really cool.

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the fourier with me and practice while my life was

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out working to get ready for the performance. And then

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we went out to dinner at our favorite place for

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our anniversary, and I said, I forgot something in the car,

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and I went back and got my guitar, and she's like.

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Speaker 4: What are you doing?

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Speaker 5: So she had no idea, had no idea, I had

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a guitar. I had nothing. It was all all, you know,

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right on the spot, a nice little intimate place. Everybody,

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the whole crowd that was there, pulled their chairs around,

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made a little audience. And I had a giant anniversary

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card because I couldn't remember the lyrics and the chords

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all at the same time, and my daughter had helped

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me bidazzle it. And so, you know, a long winded

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way to say when I when I performed that song

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for her, it was so amazing, so emotional, the connection.

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I want to write poems for someone it's personal, and

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I read it to them it's more personal. When I

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sang it was like, this is what I meant to do.

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wife would say, was teaching myself music. So I bought

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a bunch of online music courses online, taught myself to

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write music and read music and compose, and along the way,

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I put a cover band together and I found I

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guess I didn't write at first the cover band. I

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just wanted to play some shows with them, and I

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found as I was singing, singing other people's words, they

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wouldn't say what I wanted to say. I started changing

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the lyrics kidding, and my wife was like, you can't

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change the lyrics.

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Speaker 7: I'm like, well, that's what I want to say.

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Speaker 5: That led me to writing my own stuff in twenty

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eighteen and put my first album out in twenty nineteen,

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started touring behind that, and of course COVID, like everyone else,

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kind of interrupted that whole experience. And so when COVID

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piece rock band format for my first album Soft Rock.

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Speaker 7: And when I went online and started doing.

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Speaker 5: Charity fundraisers Zoom ticketed, cheer Aready fundraisers to learn how

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to be a singer songwriter proper, yeah, and rearranged all

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my music and started writing in that lane. And and

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I haven't looked back. It's been amazing. I just love

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the journey that I'm on and the people I get

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Speaker 2: You know, it's music theory must have been pretty easy

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for you, right.

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Speaker 5: It's very mathematical, That's what I'm thinking. Yeah, yeah, there's

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a very math mathematical element. But part, believe it or not,

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the instrumental part, uh, was fairly. I'm pretty dexterous and

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the math and and the hand eye coordination, the the

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instrument part was was much easier. Yeah, the vocal part

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I had no reference and so I didn't even sing

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in choir right, really right, and so, uh, just learning

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to control your voice is such a whole other experience,

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and that was the hardest journey.

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helped me a ton. It's really much easier to learn

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from someone else.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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the one instrument where some people, for whatever reason, they

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just they just can do it without even you know,

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did you take lessons, and they say no, they just

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they're just able to do it, you know what I mean.

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a bass player and I can I can sing like

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find the octave and lock in. But on my own

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I get lost. And I went through three different vocal

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coaches and nobody, nobody could get me to where I wanted.

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Speaker 6: To be with it.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's a it's a it's its own journey.

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Speaker 5: And I found, uh, you know, you got to put

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your ten thousand steps in and so you know, if

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you didn't grow up singing in church and choir and whatever,

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then you got to you got to put that time in.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 5: And so as I've become, you know, more experienced as

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a vocalist, it's much more intuitive now for me. I

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sing in a trio back home, and I saw harmonies

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and so you know, and the lady asking with is

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very well trained and very precise, and so all the

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people around you start pushing you to develop your skill.

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Speaker 6: Yep.

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Speaker 5: And I'd say, now it's a lot more intuitive when

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I pick up a song, to pick up a guitar

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to write a song, it's very easy for me to

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sort of craft a melody now on the fly, where

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you know, two years.

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Speaker 7: Ago it was much more difficult. Really, it's becoming intuitive.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's excellent. Yeah, that's great. Well, I'm dying to

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hear you play live. You want to play something live, Let's.

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Speaker 7: Let's do it.

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Speaker 5: Let's talk about one of those science meets philosophy juxtapositions. Okay,

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I'm going to break through some boundaries with you guys

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with a song called boundary Layer. Computational fluid dynamics has

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boundary layer theory in it and particle theory. Particles approaching

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an object in a fluid slow down when they get

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near the object, and then they accelerate in a new direction,

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kind of like the philosophy of breaking through.

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Speaker 7: A boundary in your own life. So let's rock and

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roll with some boundary layer.

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Speaker 6: Alright, Mark Winter is live in studio.

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Speaker 4: Pushing that SuperSonics peed. I can see what I need.

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I'm soaring faster and higher, breaking through. I belief in me.

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Speaker 5: We find our limits when we're young, slowing down before

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we've becne They tell me I'm too small to play

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and that I don't look like them at all. Or

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can I find the strengthen me to break my boundaries

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and make me see pushing that SuperSonics peed.

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Speaker 4: I can see what I need. I'm soaring faster and

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nye breaking through our believe in me.

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Speaker 6: Here we go.

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Speaker 9: Now, get a job and find a life. Listen to

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everyone's advice. They tell me I'm too old the change

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that I need to rearrange my mind. Where can I

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find the strength in me to break my boundaries and

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make me see pushing at.

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Speaker 4: The supersonic speed. I can see what I need. I'm

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soaring caster and I breaking through. I belief in me.

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Speaker 9: Here we go, Bring some love along the way, Keep

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my humble minded play bound to lay us are just

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to test.

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Speaker 7: To give the strength to be my best.

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Speaker 9: Bring my circle up with me. Feel the love and loyalty.

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Boundary to lay us are just to test to give

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the strength to be my best. Pushing not the supersonic speed.

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I can see what I need.

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Speaker 4: I'm soaring faster and I breaking through. I believe in

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me pushing, not the supersonic speed. I can see what

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I need. I'm soaring caster and ie breaking through. I believe.

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Speaker 6: In Very nice, very nice.

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Speaker 1: If you're just joining us, we have Mark Winter is

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here with us, alive in studio. He's on a tour

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and he is in the area.

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Speaker 7: And that's what is that song called again, It's called

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Boundary Layer.

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Speaker 1: Boundary Layer, very good. So now where are you in

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your tour in terms of like what did you play

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last night?

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Speaker 6: Somewhere I did?

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Speaker 5: I did played down in Pennsylvania last night, and then

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the night before I was in New York some in

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week number four four, Yeah, week number four of a

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sixty five day tour, having a great time, like a

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little inch worm about you know, three hundred miles a day.

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I drive and then I dropped my trailer International Park

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or State Forest, and uh, you know, play a show

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and come back and get up in the morning and

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do the thing again.

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Speaker 7: You know, it's it's amazing.

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Speaker 6: And then where do you go after here?

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Speaker 5: Where's your Yeah, I'm headed to Maynard I'm playing at

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a festival this afternoon.

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Speaker 6: Excellent.

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Speaker 5: And then from there I go to Maine for a

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two day break to visit my dad. He lives in

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o Gunquit, Okay. So I'm gonna hang out and walk

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the margin in a way, and then you know, recharge

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a little bit, and then I'm up off into Canada.

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Speaker 6: Oh nice, How many dates you have up there?

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Speaker 7: I have five five shows in Canada outstanding?

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Speaker 6: Wow. Oh that's great. That's great.

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Speaker 1: So what's been like has anything been a surprise to

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you doing that? Because you said, this is the first

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story that you've done of this size, right, this many dates?

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and so it kind of learned a little bit of

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the tour culture, you know. I think for me it's

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been so amazing to get out of the echo chamber

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of Houston. Yeah, you're you kind of you get stuck

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in a situation and an environment, and your brain I

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think stops growing and thinking.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 5: And so I think getting out on the West Coast

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was was amazing for me. And you don't really know

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how your music is landing with people. I mean all

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the streaming and TikTok and YouTube tube, and you know,

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the interaction you get, you know, is not as rich.

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Coast was, first of all, there's a lot of people

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who are science nerds, closet closet science nerds who really

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are viving with my music, which is really cool, excellent.

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And then I found this the whole positive energy element.

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There were so many people who came out to see

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a show for the positive energy experience and they heard

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me on the radio like on your show. They came

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out to a show for me.

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Speaker 7: I remember. The first time that happened to me was

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in New Mexico. I was in Ridoso. It was a

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beautiful city, and a couple drove three hours. They heard

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me on the radio. They drove three hours.

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Speaker 5: They're like, we got a lot of bad stuff going

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on in our life right now, and we wanted an

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evening of positive energy.

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Speaker 7: And I was so touched.

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Speaker 5: Three or four of the couple's heard me on the

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same radio station and came out for that same experience.

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And it was ten days into my tour on the

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West Coast. Yeah, and it told me I'm in the

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right place and doing what I need to be doing

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right in this world.

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Speaker 7: And I've still got.

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Speaker 5: Goosebumps because I had so many experiences like that along

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my West Coast tour.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I was just on fire the whole time.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, my wife asked me, She's like, she comes out

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a week out of each month that tour, and she says,

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you know, this is a lot, a lot.

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Speaker 7: You're up every day early.

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Speaker 5: You got a lot of stuff going on, you got

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all this stuff in email everything else. It's a lot,

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she said, how do you do it? I'm like, I'm

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so so fulfilled by the people I meet and the

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experiences I'm having and the fact that my music is

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really making a difference in the world. Yes, you know,

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it's no effort.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, it's worth it.

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Speaker 7: It's worth every effort, you know.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely absolutely.

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Speaker 1: Is there anything that's really kind of surprised you or

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challenges that maybe you didn't expect that you've run into,

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you know, because it's not easy what you're doing. It's

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like your wife said, it is a lot, and it's

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it's fulfilling. So it's a lot in a good way, right,

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in a positive way, But it.

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Speaker 6: Is a lot.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, for sure.

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Speaker 5: So I had never pulled the trailer before, and so

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there was the I rented a few and tried it

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out and kind of got my the sizing and everything

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the way I wanted it in whatever. But I had

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never been out in the snow and mountains and whatever.

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So there was a whole lot to learn about being

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cold in Canada or in the Northern United States in

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the mountains that I didn't know how to. I didn't

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even bring warm clothes with me on the tour. Whop

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at Walmart and buy some sweatshirts and whatever. And then

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as a musician, you don't really know your music until

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you've been in so many rooms where the sound is

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just off. They've got the EQ on the monitor, weird,

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you got all these all these weird things happen. You

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can't hear yourself, Yeah, I can't hear anything. I remember

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I played a rock venue they're trying to develop a

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songwriter night, and they had the vocals compressed so much.

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There was no dynamics, and they had the frequencies super tight.

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You couldn't hear your overtones or anything. There was like nothing,

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And so I found I was very challenged to hear

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myself right, and you and you really have to learn

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you're in a big crowd, it's super noisy. How do

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you continue to hear yourself properly as a musician?

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Speaker 6: Yep?

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Speaker 11: Right?

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Speaker 7: That was That was a heart lesson.

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Speaker 5: It took me about maybe four weeks into my West

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Coast two or before I had played enough rooms that

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I'd learned the thing. Yeah, and then something I'm still learning,

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how do you read a room? So a friend of

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mine is a brilliant songwriter from the Houston area, Ken Gaines.

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When I first started off as as a songwriter or

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I asked if I could just follow him around for

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a few of his shows, very regionally successful, and just

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watch what he does. And he took me under his

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wing for three shows and he told me his set

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list in advance, and he said, but I'm going to

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change it, and I'm going to change the intro and

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the outro and the story based on the room.

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Speaker 6: How do you do that? Oh? Wow?

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Speaker 11: Right?

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Speaker 5: And so he's playing the show and then he would

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stop in the show and he say, Mark, this is

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for you, and he would make a change. He wouldn't

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tell anybody else what he was doing for you, And

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I knew what he was doing, right, And I'm like, Okay,

476
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:37,200
I got to know my music that well right to

477
00:28:37,319 --> 00:28:41,559
be professional, you know, to be accomplished, And so I'm

478
00:28:41,559 --> 00:28:44,839
still learning how to do that, you know. I think

479
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,039
it's just a journey you know that I'll probably be

480
00:28:47,119 --> 00:28:48,759
on forever just learning how to read a room and

481
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,359
land the story and the music in a way that's

482
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,720
gonna that's going to serve the room and the song

483
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:54,359
the best.

484
00:28:54,559 --> 00:28:54,759
Speaker 3: Yeah.

485
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:58,839
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, no, that's that makes sense.

486
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,039
Speaker 1: And yeah, that is something you kind of that's not

487
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,000
something anyone can It's not something you can read in

488
00:29:04,039 --> 00:29:05,440
a book how to do that, you know.

489
00:29:05,559 --> 00:29:06,759
Speaker 6: It's the only way you.

490
00:29:06,759 --> 00:29:09,079
Speaker 7: Wish you could, man, I wish you could in a book.

491
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, the only way. Yeah. Really, the only way you

492
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,720
can learn is by by doing. And uh, it can

493
00:29:13,799 --> 00:29:14,240
be tricky.

494
00:29:14,519 --> 00:29:16,480
Speaker 7: Yeah, I wish it was a journeyman process.

495
00:29:16,519 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 3: You know.

496
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:18,799
Speaker 5: That would be great if I could like just tack

497
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:22,799
on to a touring guy who's you know, a gray beard,

498
00:29:22,799 --> 00:29:25,359
who could show me around, yeah, and teach me some

499
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:27,400
of those things. But that's just not a part of

500
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:30,400
a music program that I'm aware of anyway.

501
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 3: You know.

502
00:29:30,839 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 1: I think that aspect is especially challenging when you're you know,

503
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,039
a solo act, right, just you and a guitar, because

504
00:29:37,039 --> 00:29:38,720
if you're in a band, like if you're in a band,

505
00:29:38,759 --> 00:29:41,000
there's a certain comfort to that and a safety in that,

506
00:29:41,119 --> 00:29:43,119
you know, safety in numbers. You know, no matter what

507
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,400
the room is, you're up there with three other guys

508
00:29:45,519 --> 00:29:48,480
or four other guys or whatever the configuration is, right, yes,

509
00:29:48,599 --> 00:29:51,920
but when it's just you, you're vulnerable. Right, it's just

510
00:29:52,039 --> 00:29:54,319
you with the guitar, and you've got to figure out

511
00:29:54,319 --> 00:29:55,799
how to read that room. When you're in a band,

512
00:29:55,839 --> 00:29:57,240
you kind of don't care. It's like, yeah, we do

513
00:29:57,319 --> 00:29:59,279
what we do, right, But when it's just you, there's

514
00:29:59,319 --> 00:30:02,000
that added press. Sure of you really got to sell this.

515
00:30:02,759 --> 00:30:03,359
Speaker 7: Yeah, for sure.

516
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:06,759
Speaker 5: And another thing I had to learn, Like I love,

517
00:30:06,839 --> 00:30:09,079
I'm all about positive energy and I can share a

518
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:12,519
million stories, touching stories, but I have a few songs

519
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:18,720
that are very personal and I'm not used to like

520
00:30:19,319 --> 00:30:25,519
being super vulnerable when I'm performing. And so another thing

521
00:30:25,599 --> 00:30:28,200
that I've had to learn, you know, is stories are

522
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:30,640
meant to be shared. I have a song my grandmother,

523
00:30:30,799 --> 00:30:34,200
my my poetry pal who's no longer with me but

524
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,480
super influential in my life. I wrote a song because

525
00:30:37,519 --> 00:30:41,079
I continue to hear her voice talking to me and

526
00:30:41,279 --> 00:30:46,400
encouraging me, and it's it's original, real, it's her telling

527
00:30:46,519 --> 00:30:49,680
me things. I'm not sure where she's coming from, but

528
00:30:50,799 --> 00:30:53,359
you know, I get so emotional when I sing that

529
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,039
song and I tell the story, and it touches so

530
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:59,599
many people in the crowd when I do that, and

531
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:01,559
they come up afterwards and tell me, Hey, that that

532
00:31:01,759 --> 00:31:04,799
song your voice. I can hear someone from my life

533
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,920
that's no longer with me, And so learning how to

534
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:12,559
be vulnerable is something I'm learning still. I have some

535
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,880
more personal songs. I'm scared to play them live. They're

536
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:17,720
going to come out on an album that's that's coming

537
00:31:17,799 --> 00:31:20,880
up next year, but I'm scared to play them live

538
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:27,240
because they're sort of raw emotions. Yea, And yeah, if

539
00:31:27,279 --> 00:31:28,599
I got to learn, I've got to learn.

540
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 8: To do that.

541
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,279
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, do you want to play another live one

542
00:31:31,319 --> 00:31:32,160
for us? I will.

543
00:31:32,319 --> 00:31:37,039
Speaker 7: I will do that. So this song is a it's

544
00:31:37,079 --> 00:31:42,640
a song called Signal. It's all about being aware.

545
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 5: Of the energy that you're putting out in the world

546
00:31:45,119 --> 00:31:46,960
and the energy that you're taking in from other people.

547
00:31:47,799 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 7: Like we're all little radio station, you know, And I

548
00:31:53,359 --> 00:31:53,559
like to.

549
00:31:53,559 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 5: Think about my channel being sort of the positive energy channel,

550
00:31:57,319 --> 00:31:59,680
and have friends who live on both ends of the

551
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:03,960
spec which helped me write the song right. Because no

552
00:32:04,079 --> 00:32:07,680
matter how good or bad you are, other people's signals

553
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:11,200
affect you and your perspective on life for that day

554
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,119
and in that moment the single.

555
00:32:13,279 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 7: This is called signal.

556
00:32:36,559 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 9: Waves washing out from me, sending around my inner geez,

557
00:32:44,079 --> 00:32:52,480
sometimes bright and shimmering, sometimes dark and stifling, crashing into

558
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:53,920
the walls.

559
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:59,079
Speaker 4: And floors, seeping in the minds and more. Should I

560
00:32:59,559 --> 00:33:04,400
keep viewing random feelings? No, I should focus my mind.

561
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:12,359
Don't feeling I'm taking it in and putting it out.

562
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,480
I should cure up any lingering.

563
00:33:16,799 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 9: Die. So I'm going up, dial in my signal and

564
00:33:24,319 --> 00:33:30,880
make it a dream. Make it my positive screen.

565
00:33:35,039 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 12: Dial in my signal, Hey, make it a dream, make.

566
00:33:42,039 --> 00:33:58,039
Speaker 4: It my positive screen. Changing my mind to create a

567
00:33:58,279 --> 00:34:00,720
layer intense Ity's fine.

568
00:34:00,839 --> 00:34:05,119
Speaker 9: If your heart is there radiating the thoughts you want

569
00:34:05,319 --> 00:34:05,880
the most.

570
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,639
Speaker 4: It is a powerful, purpose, cool piece of cruse.

571
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:14,280
Speaker 9: Reading the vibes back from with him. I can tell

572
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:17,679
the quote I'm pulling out, you get back in, not

573
00:34:18,159 --> 00:34:23,440
accidentious in the Nagati, bring out the best and share

574
00:34:23,599 --> 00:34:24,639
that narrity.

575
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:31,199
Speaker 4: I'm taking it in and putting it out.

576
00:34:32,039 --> 00:34:38,840
Speaker 9: I should clear up any lingering die. So I'm going

577
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:42,199
up nyling my signal and.

578
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:44,760
Speaker 4: Making it a dream.

579
00:34:46,199 --> 00:34:57,400
Speaker 9: Make it my positive screen. Dialing my signal and making

580
00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:03,519
it a dream, make it my positive screet.

581
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,760
Speaker 4: Do you feel the vibes from those around you?

582
00:35:11,159 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 8: Are you catching the meaning in your mind? Is it

583
00:35:15,119 --> 00:35:17,159
helping you live and smile?

584
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:35,079
Speaker 4: Or do you need to turn that dial. I'm gonna

585
00:35:35,679 --> 00:35:38,719
dial in my signal land.

586
00:35:39,199 --> 00:35:45,599
Speaker 9: Make it a dream, make it my positive screeen.

587
00:35:49,639 --> 00:35:54,880
Speaker 12: Dial in that signal and make it a dream.

588
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 4: Make it my positive street.

589
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,639
Speaker 6: Outstanding. Mark Winters is here with us live in studio.

590
00:36:25,079 --> 00:36:28,119
Speaker 1: If you are just joining us, it is Matt Connorton

591
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:30,599
Unleashed and if you are listening live of course, today

592
00:36:30,679 --> 00:36:34,360
is Saturday, October fourth, twenty twenty five. As we are

593
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:37,480
in our first hour and starting out with some great

594
00:36:37,559 --> 00:36:42,039
positivity from Mark Winters. So excellent, excellent. So when you

595
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:44,519
when you do this, when you play live, do you

596
00:36:44,559 --> 00:36:45,679
ever have anyone join you or.

597
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:47,039
Speaker 6: Is it always? Is it always you?

598
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 1: Or because yeah, because you mentioned back in Houston, there's

599
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:51,880
someone you perform with, right, yeah, yeah.

600
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:55,199
Speaker 5: So I have I've been on an amazing musical journey

601
00:36:55,199 --> 00:37:00,440
and I've I've met so many amazing people in production

602
00:37:00,519 --> 00:37:04,400
of my albums and such. And I met a really

603
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:07,639
good friend of mine now mister Michael Shanks, about a

604
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,559
year and a half ago, and he was just coming

605
00:37:10,599 --> 00:37:11,440
back in from Spain.

606
00:37:11,599 --> 00:37:11,880
Speaker 3: He was.

607
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:17,880
Speaker 5: There studying at Berkeley. He's an amazing guitar player and

608
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:22,079
just an amazing human being. He and I were talking

609
00:37:22,159 --> 00:37:24,039
with a producer that was working on a song for me,

610
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:27,159
and so he and I started playing when he was there.

611
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:29,079
I just loved his energy, and I said, hey, you know,

612
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:31,159
when you're actually back in town, you want to hang

613
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:34,519
out together, maybe play a few songs. Next thing, you know,

614
00:37:35,199 --> 00:37:38,199
we struck up a great friendship. I started inviting him

615
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:39,440
out to play at shows with me.

616
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:40,320
Speaker 11: We have this.

617
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:45,360
Speaker 5: You know, I'm competent on the guitar. I played lead guitar,

618
00:37:45,559 --> 00:37:49,840
but you know, I'm just sort of competent. Sure, he's phenomenal, okay,

619
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:52,320
And the fact that he can do it on an

620
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:55,960
acoustic guitar, which is what I was looking for, creates

621
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:56,920
great energy.

622
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:58,079
Speaker 7: And so we started playing together.

623
00:37:58,519 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 5: We play percussion back and forth on the guitars, and

624
00:38:01,119 --> 00:38:03,480
lead and rhythm and everything. It's really amazing. And then

625
00:38:04,079 --> 00:38:07,599
my vocal instructor I was telling you about earlier, you know,

626
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:10,079
he I told him I'm looking for someone to sing

627
00:38:10,159 --> 00:38:13,000
harmonies with, and he said, hey, I've got just the lady.

628
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:16,119
She's looking for someone to do the same. She doesn't

629
00:38:16,119 --> 00:38:18,599
play out a lot, and so she and I had

630
00:38:18,679 --> 00:38:21,239
coffee and then I invited her to sing with me

631
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:22,920
at a show of mine that I had coming up.

632
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:27,519
And if Lady Gaga and Adele had a baby, that's

633
00:38:27,559 --> 00:38:33,280
her voice. It's just meso soprano, richness and amazing. And

634
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:39,079
if you tracked her, she's like like perfect when she's

635
00:38:39,119 --> 00:38:41,960
tracking her vocals or just like or like right down

636
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:46,800
the middle. And so we started hanging out playing singing

637
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:50,960
duets together and so that became my trio. Okay, and

638
00:38:51,079 --> 00:38:55,079
we're really tight. I love working with those guys. I'm

639
00:38:55,159 --> 00:38:57,960
teaching her how to write songs. So we've written four

640
00:38:58,039 --> 00:39:00,320
songs together now, wrote the first one just for her.

641
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:04,559
There have been harmonies or duo work for us, and

642
00:39:04,639 --> 00:39:07,079
so we play out a lot around town. But she

643
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:12,119
has kids that are in middle school and isn't portable

644
00:39:12,199 --> 00:39:14,000
to be out on the road, and she is still

645
00:39:14,039 --> 00:39:18,360
developing herself as an artist, independent artists new and so

646
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:21,679
I'm hopeful to have her and Michael both out on

647
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:25,519
the road as I get back through the area here,

648
00:39:25,639 --> 00:39:29,000
maybe next year. I'm still developing a following that makes

649
00:39:29,039 --> 00:39:32,199
it worthwhile for everyone to come out. You know, if

650
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:34,800
you don't sell enough tickets, it doesn't work for people

651
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:38,280
who have families to feed. So so I'm working on

652
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:42,880
developing us as a trio more. And you'll hear her

653
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:48,239
singing harmonies and background vocals on some of the songs

654
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:51,039
in my Acoustic Me album. Okay, that's the that's the

655
00:39:51,199 --> 00:39:54,039
live sound between the three of us, that's what I capture,

656
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,440
that is all three of us performing, and that on

657
00:39:57,519 --> 00:39:58,599
that Acoustic Me album.

658
00:39:58,679 --> 00:40:01,880
Speaker 6: Oh cool, very nice, very nice. So how many? How

659
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:03,559
many albums have you recorded at this point?

660
00:40:04,079 --> 00:40:07,519
Speaker 5: So there are three albums that are out ye. The

661
00:40:07,599 --> 00:40:12,400
first one is called Slipstream, which is a scientific principle

662
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:16,559
of being like tucked behind someone like a duck. The

663
00:40:16,639 --> 00:40:19,480
person up front's working harder than the people behind them.

664
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:22,280
Speaker 7: Okay, And I felt like I was sort of.

665
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:25,519
Speaker 5: Drafting off of a lot of amazing musicians who are

666
00:40:25,519 --> 00:40:28,360
helping me create that album. Yeah, and so that's the

667
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:30,800
first album I put out kind of a four piece

668
00:40:31,039 --> 00:40:32,480
light rock band format.

669
00:40:32,599 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 7: And then I put out.

670
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 5: Boundary Layer, which was my album on the other side

671
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:43,800
of COVID, still four piece rock, light rock. And then

672
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:47,559
I started leaning more heavily into the singer songwriter mode,

673
00:40:47,599 --> 00:40:50,119
and so I rearranged a lot of my music to

674
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:54,519
be singer songwriter formatted acoustic. Me album I was telling

675
00:40:54,559 --> 00:40:57,400
you about is sort of Reimagine. It's got a few

676
00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:58,079
new songs on it.

677
00:40:58,239 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 6: Yeah.

678
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 5: And then I just put out Equal Sims Squared, which

679
00:41:02,559 --> 00:41:07,679
is my latest batch of songs that a friend of mine,

680
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:13,119
John Edward Ross, helped me produce. And I'm working slowly

681
00:41:13,199 --> 00:41:16,159
with these two new singles that I've just put out,

682
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:19,280
Fake Gravity and Man in the Sky are part of

683
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,039
an album that's going to release next year called The

684
00:41:22,119 --> 00:41:25,880
Science in Me. Okay, and so that would before into

685
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:28,000
when that album comes out, that'll be the fourth album.

686
00:41:28,119 --> 00:41:29,800
Speaker 6: Okay. So where do you record?

687
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:34,559
Speaker 7: You know, it's a I've I've recorded my very first album.

688
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:36,639
I met a guy.

689
00:41:37,119 --> 00:41:39,119
Speaker 5: I went looking for a producer. I'm pretty thorough guy.

690
00:41:39,159 --> 00:41:42,119
So I interviewed a bunch of producers and told him, look, I'm.

691
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:43,559
Speaker 7: The new guy. I don't know anything.

692
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:45,679
Speaker 5: I'm gonna be annoying to work with because I'm gonna

693
00:41:45,679 --> 00:41:47,840
want to be in the middle of everything because I'm learning. Yeah, right,

694
00:41:48,159 --> 00:41:49,840
And so I look for a producer who was friendly

695
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:54,039
for that, and Mark Townsend showed that his studio was

696
00:41:54,119 --> 00:41:58,199
in Houston, and so he and I were talking. He

697
00:41:58,239 --> 00:41:59,800
had a Houston number or whatever. Well, he had just

698
00:42:00,119 --> 00:42:04,519
located to LA six months or earlier. Oh like, okay, well,

699
00:42:04,519 --> 00:42:06,440
how do we do this? And he's like, well, you know,

700
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:08,320
why don't we just have a he has a bunch

701
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:10,360
of contacts. I said, why don't we? He said, why

702
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:12,679
don't we just meet in Nashville and record your first album,

703
00:42:13,159 --> 00:42:15,360
the Bones of It there, Yeah, and then we'll come

704
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:18,400
out to LA do the vocals. And so he did

705
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:20,880
pre production in Houston with me, and then we did

706
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:25,760
the Bones in Nashville at the House of Blue studio there,

707
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:29,800
and then did the vocals out in California. So the

708
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,360
first one I did with him, and then I learned

709
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:34,760
a ton he was. He was such a great mentor

710
00:42:35,039 --> 00:42:37,239
and he's so musically gifted. He helped me a ton

711
00:42:37,559 --> 00:42:40,000
to grow and learn and then I was looking for

712
00:42:40,079 --> 00:42:43,199
someone more local for the second album, and so I

713
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:48,519
worked with Derrek Haymes in Houston and sugar Land actually

714
00:42:49,119 --> 00:42:51,639
and did my second album. It was a bit the

715
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:55,960
process for that one was was much more difficult for

716
00:42:56,079 --> 00:42:59,840
me because he's kind of a live sound person. Okay,

717
00:43:00,039 --> 00:43:03,000
so he wanted me to show up, do the thing

718
00:43:03,599 --> 00:43:06,599
live and then okay, you know, he'll clean up some

719
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:10,519
stuff and you're done, which is not how I'm wired.

720
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:15,119
And so I found another guy in town in Houston,

721
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:19,320
john nyberd Ross, and he and I have been working together,

722
00:43:19,519 --> 00:43:22,199
and Michael Shanks, my guitarist, is a producer as well,

723
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:25,679
and so that there there are the two that really

724
00:43:26,639 --> 00:43:30,920
are the people who get me the best. And so

725
00:43:31,079 --> 00:43:34,840
we're on a journey together and we've written this where

726
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:37,920
we produced this whole next album together that's coming out.

727
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:41,679
And so I like people, you know, I like someone

728
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:43,760
I can sit down and talk to you, like you like, Okay,

729
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:46,679
let's work on this together, right that sense of collaboration.

730
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:49,719
It's much more difficult to be the sort of remote

731
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:52,679
you know, send me your vocals and send me the

732
00:43:52,679 --> 00:43:56,000
guitar part and put it all together remotely.

733
00:43:56,079 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 7: I don't get the energy out of that.

734
00:43:57,639 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 6: Sure, sure, yeah, it's funny.

735
00:43:59,519 --> 00:44:02,079
Speaker 1: Uh, there was a time when when people just generally

736
00:44:02,159 --> 00:44:04,079
were kind of turned off to that idea, and then COVID.

737
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:06,400
COVID forced a lot of people to work that way.

738
00:44:07,599 --> 00:44:09,880
But then, you know, and a lot of people still

739
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:11,679
a lot of people still work that way. But I

740
00:44:11,679 --> 00:44:15,559
would imagine it, I understand your perspective in that, I

741
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:18,519
would imagine it would be challenging to work that. Like obviously,

742
00:44:18,599 --> 00:44:20,719
we have the technology to you know, send tracks back

743
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:23,880
and forth with Dropbox or you know, or one drive

744
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:25,079
or whatever service you want to use.

745
00:44:25,159 --> 00:44:28,039
Speaker 6: And it's sometimes some of the guests we have on

746
00:44:28,119 --> 00:44:28,400
the show.

747
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:31,039
Speaker 1: You know, these bands come in and they've got they've

748
00:44:31,079 --> 00:44:34,679
got music that sounds like it was all recorded together.

749
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:36,760
You know, it sounds like a live band in the studio,

750
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:39,239
you know, and then you find out no, they they've

751
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:41,920
used a lot of technology in different studios and sending

752
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:43,280
tracks back and forth and whatnot.

753
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 3: But but.

754
00:44:46,039 --> 00:44:48,800
Speaker 1: The way, the way of doing it, the kind of

755
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:51,920
the old school way, which is what you're doing, it

756
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:55,280
sounds easier in a lot of ways because you're you're

757
00:44:55,320 --> 00:45:00,599
able to get that energy of directly collaborating with people, right, Yeah.

758
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 6: It sounds. It just sounds. That's how I mean.

759
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 1: I'm a musician and I've recorded some stuff, but I've

760
00:45:06,519 --> 00:45:08,840
never not not to the extent that you have. And

761
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:10,800
I would rather do it the way you're doing it,

762
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:12,360
I think, than the way that some other people are

763
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:12,639
doing it.

764
00:45:12,679 --> 00:45:15,400
Speaker 7: If that makes sense, Yeah to me, I think there's Uh,

765
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:17,280
it's kind of like it's like co writing.

766
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:20,039
Speaker 5: I started co writing two and a half years ago,

767
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:24,480
never done it before, And there's a certain level of

768
00:45:24,599 --> 00:45:26,800
competence that you need to have to co write and

769
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:30,519
to correcte well. And if I show up in the

770
00:45:30,639 --> 00:45:36,000
right room, my co writing sessions produce a completed song

771
00:45:36,199 --> 00:45:40,280
in three hours. Okay, So all I need is either

772
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:45,119
me instrumentally or someone else on an instrument and you

773
00:45:45,199 --> 00:45:46,480
know two people.

774
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:47,519
Speaker 6: Ish.

775
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,880
Speaker 5: If you pair me with a person who's used to

776
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:55,599
writing melody, especially, then I can do everything else. So

777
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:57,719
we can really produce a song really well, and there's

778
00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:01,480
an organic element to it. Yeah, I'm good. I've written

779
00:46:01,519 --> 00:46:03,400
co written with a lot of people and I'm good

780
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:06,639
at it. And I can remotely work on Zoom with someone.

781
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:08,920
Speaker 6: Nine.

782
00:46:11,119 --> 00:46:12,800
Speaker 7: Because of the transport.

783
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:17,360
Speaker 5: Lag, I can't play a thing with you in the room, right,

784
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:19,960
And so I have the same problem with production. I've

785
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:22,639
done it enough that I can do it. I've done

786
00:46:22,639 --> 00:46:25,320
a track. I did a Christmas track with a remote producer.

787
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:27,719
It was all back and forth remote, and so I

788
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:29,079
know how to do it, and I do my own

789
00:46:29,159 --> 00:46:30,079
vocal track and get home.

790
00:46:30,199 --> 00:46:35,760
Speaker 7: I have a studio for that. But when you're creating

791
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:39,920
an arrangement and you're listening to something, listening to a

792
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:41,480
mix for the first time and trying to get everything

793
00:46:41,559 --> 00:46:45,360
dialed in, it's so difficult because of the lagginess of it.

794
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:46,119
Speaker 11: Right.

795
00:46:46,199 --> 00:46:50,119
Speaker 5: I find it the most difficult when I'm writing, and

796
00:46:50,199 --> 00:46:52,639
the second most difficult when I'm in the final production

797
00:46:53,199 --> 00:46:55,840
phase and I'm trying to hear like the producers like

798
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,119
let me turn the base up or the bass down

799
00:46:58,199 --> 00:47:00,960
or this or that way you're not in the.

800
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:01,559
Speaker 4: Room with them.

801
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:02,880
Speaker 7: It's so hard.

802
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:03,400
Speaker 6: Oh yeah.

803
00:47:03,519 --> 00:47:05,239
Speaker 5: So my process with John Edward is we can do

804
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:10,360
certain amount of things. We do the arrangement live, me

805
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:12,239
and him and Michael in the room, and we do

806
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:14,360
the thing and we get it the way we want

807
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:16,280
it and the way it's the structure, and and so

808
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:18,880
we've got the genesis of the idea is now done

809
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:21,320
and it's down and we we've got that, and then

810
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:24,000
we we do the parts. We can put them all,

811
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:28,760
you know, Frankenstein it together the parts around that arrangement,

812
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:31,360
and then when we get back to when I put

813
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:34,400
my first set of vocals in, okay, we need to

814
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:36,360
sit down and listen to that live, and then we

815
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:37,119
do the final mix.

816
00:47:37,159 --> 00:47:37,840
Speaker 7: We need to do the live.

817
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 5: So I think there's there's moments in the song's genesis

818
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:44,760
that you really need to be live to give it

819
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:48,159
its best effort, and then after that you can be

820
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:49,280
you know, sort of remote.

821
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 7: That's just my personal experience.

822
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:54,800
Speaker 6: Absolutely. Well, you want to play one more live one?

823
00:47:55,559 --> 00:47:57,039
Speaker 7: Yeah, let's let's let's do it.

824
00:47:57,280 --> 00:47:57,559
Speaker 6: Okay.

825
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 7: So this next tune I'm going to.

826
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:05,039
Speaker 5: Play for you is all about me getting out of

827
00:48:05,119 --> 00:48:05,840
a bad mood.

828
00:48:06,079 --> 00:48:06,400
Speaker 6: Okay.

829
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:08,559
Speaker 5: So even when I'm writing about a bad mood, I

830
00:48:08,679 --> 00:48:10,519
have to put a little positive spin on it.

831
00:48:11,199 --> 00:48:13,159
Speaker 7: I was in a bad mood about it two years ago.

832
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:15,840
Speaker 5: And you know, I have a lot of crazy hobbies,

833
00:48:16,199 --> 00:48:20,519
you know, surfing and rollerblading and motorcycle racing and whatever,

834
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:22,559
anything that my hair is on fire for.

835
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:25,360
Speaker 7: Yeah, and that usually gets me out of any funk

836
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:27,400
i'm in. H Usually just a run does.

837
00:48:28,039 --> 00:48:29,320
Speaker 5: But I got in a bad mood that I couldn't

838
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:31,800
get out of it, and I said, you know you're

839
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:32,519
a songwriter.

840
00:48:33,039 --> 00:48:34,159
Speaker 7: You should write a song about it.

841
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 5: At least share the fact that you're in a bad mood,

842
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:39,440
and ultimately ended up helping me get out of the

843
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:42,840
bad mood. It's called seven Deadly moods.

844
00:48:43,079 --> 00:48:45,199
Speaker 6: All right, Mark Winter is live in studio.

845
00:49:00,519 --> 00:49:09,159
Speaker 9: I've got these bad moods living in my head, snapping

846
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:16,039
and biting name, putting me on edge. It's like a

847
00:49:16,199 --> 00:49:22,239
hydra spitting with seven hairs, sneaking around and trying to

848
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:26,199
spread ran Sadness got a hold on me.

849
00:49:27,199 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 4: What's it gonna take to make you leave? My mind's

850
00:49:31,559 --> 00:49:35,960
tied up in a funky moods got me on edge?

851
00:49:36,639 --> 00:49:39,119
Why do I do? I said, I'm mooding.

852
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:43,800
Speaker 9: I need muffings around me with dance on nights, set

853
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:47,119
up very feet singing our songs.

854
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:52,079
Speaker 4: Gonna change my tone? Seven deadly moons, gonna turn to go.

855
00:49:58,519 --> 00:49:59,920
Speaker 7: Here comes those bad moods?

856
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:01,119
Speaker 4: Who's creeping back in?

857
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:09,519
Speaker 9: It's lonely and quite just sitting on my cow. No

858
00:50:09,679 --> 00:50:19,760
one's around, they help me out, shameful, depressing and mercid thoughts,

859
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:21,639
constricting and squeezing.

860
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:27,840
Speaker 4: I'm hit it south, anger and sadness, SO saiding, what's

861
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:32,199
it gonna take to make you leave? My mind's side

862
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:37,039
up in a punker moods? It's coming on it? Why

863
00:50:37,159 --> 00:50:37,639
do I do?

864
00:50:38,079 --> 00:50:42,119
Speaker 9: I said, I'm mooding, handing my pons around me with

865
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:46,719
dance on. I said, our word street singing.

866
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:51,360
Speaker 4: Our songs, gonna change my tone. Seven deadly moves gonna

867
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:55,760
turn to go, I said, turning, turning, turning to go.

868
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:17,039
Speaker 12: Seven deadly moods sitting in my head.

869
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:22,360
Speaker 13: H I S S I n G love and light

870
00:51:22,599 --> 00:51:27,440
and camarader read if I guess yes, I in G

871
00:51:28,519 --> 00:51:30,039
take those moods.

872
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:34,440
Speaker 12: And loosen their whole k I S S I G.

873
00:51:35,559 --> 00:51:37,599
Seven deadly moods gonna.

874
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 4: Turn to go, I said, turn it, turn it, turn

875
00:51:41,159 --> 00:51:45,239
into go. I said the mood. I need muffins around me.

876
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:51,039
We dance song and I said a retreat, singing up songs,

877
00:51:51,159 --> 00:51:55,840
gonna change my tone. Seven deadly moves gonna turn to go,

878
00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:59,559
I said, turn it, turn it, turn into gold.

879
00:52:07,119 --> 00:52:10,360
Speaker 1: Wonderful. Mark Winter is live in studio. Mark, thank you

880
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:13,159
so much. This has been wonderful. Where are you gonna

881
00:52:13,159 --> 00:52:14,920
be next? You know we're in Manchester, but we have

882
00:52:15,039 --> 00:52:17,360
listeners online all over the place. Where's your next show?

883
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:17,599
Speaker 3: Yeah?

884
00:52:17,599 --> 00:52:19,840
Speaker 5: I'm headed up to Maine to hang out with my

885
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:22,880
dad for a couple of days along the Marginal Way, Okay,

886
00:52:23,199 --> 00:52:27,760
and then I'm headed into New Brunswick, so that's next

887
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:30,440
on the list. And then I'm looping around from there

888
00:52:31,199 --> 00:52:34,320
west and then back south towards Texas.

889
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:36,679
Speaker 7: So come catch me.

890
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:40,239
Speaker 5: On the Positive Vibe Highway, surfing along with me and

891
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:40,840
my trailer.

892
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:43,880
Speaker 1: Outstanding, Outstanding? And where should people go online to keep

893
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:45,519
up with everything that you're doing? Where's the best place

894
00:52:45,599 --> 00:52:45,719
to go?

895
00:52:46,039 --> 00:52:49,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, Mark Wintersmusic dot com is the place to join

896
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:53,800
the Positive Vibe tribe. Hop on that email list and

897
00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:57,280
keep track of all the places I'm visiting and maybe

898
00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:01,239
catch a show live and pick up some positive energy

899
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:01,960
in your life, you know.

900
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:06,639
Speaker 1: Outstanding. So to close out this segment, we're gonna play

901
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:09,199
this track strong. What should we know about this before

902
00:53:09,199 --> 00:53:10,679
we play it? Anything you want to tell.

903
00:53:10,599 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 6: Us about this?

904
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:11,559
Speaker 4: Yes?

905
00:53:13,199 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 5: So I'm I'm extremely competitive in athletics, So if you're

906
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:19,559
out running a race together, Matt, and I saw the

907
00:53:19,599 --> 00:53:22,800
finish line and you're standing next to me running. I'm like, Matt,

908
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:25,000
I'm about to beat you coming across that finish line.

909
00:53:25,119 --> 00:53:25,360
Speaker 6: Huh.

910
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:30,760
Speaker 5: And so anything athletics, I'm like that guy, super competitive,

911
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:33,800
but in other parts of my life not so much.

912
00:53:35,039 --> 00:53:37,719
And so I wrote a song to remind myself and

913
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:44,119
my children both to be aware that finishing strong can

914
00:53:44,199 --> 00:53:46,719
have a big impact in your life. And so the

915
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:49,199
song is all about finishing the strong.

916
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:51,119
Speaker 6: Baby, all right, very good.

917
00:53:51,199 --> 00:53:53,199
Speaker 1: So we're gonna play this, and if you are listening

918
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:55,760
live on Saturday, sick around coming up in the second hour,

919
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:59,199
we have the Gray Curtain in studio, but we're gonna

920
00:53:59,199 --> 00:54:02,679
close out this hour with this. This is Strong by

921
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:04,679
Mark Winters and Mark, thank you again.

922
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:05,280
Speaker 7: Thanks mat.

923
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:30,679
Speaker 8: Well.

924
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:36,599
Speaker 9: Baby life has a twist sentns times when you're feeling down.

925
00:54:38,079 --> 00:54:42,400
Speaker 4: And when you want to give her and throw it

926
00:54:42,559 --> 00:54:47,440
to the gownd. I been baby cold.

927
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:55,559
Speaker 9: Lord only knows it's true. Gave up a few times myself.

928
00:54:57,000 --> 00:55:02,440
Speaker 4: And didn't pull it through. Looking back is clearing now

929
00:55:03,679 --> 00:55:07,000
that happined? Who makes a great road sand for you?

930
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:12,360
Hold up your head down, Baby, hold up.

931
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:16,559
Speaker 3: Your head now, eyes on the press, get across at

932
00:55:16,639 --> 00:55:19,840
finish line? Strong?

933
00:55:31,519 --> 00:55:31,760
Speaker 12: Yeah?

934
00:55:38,599 --> 00:55:40,719
Speaker 4: When I watch you grow.

935
00:55:42,159 --> 00:55:49,079
Speaker 9: Trying not to find your week, bowling down and looking around?

936
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:56,480
Speaker 4: What should I see? Looking back? Is clearing? Now? All

937
00:55:56,639 --> 00:55:59,679
that happens through makes a great road sid for.

938
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:10,719
Speaker 14: Now baby, Now that pri get across that finish line?

939
00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:20,679
Speaker 4: Strong? What should I do? Be strong? What should I do?

940
00:56:21,079 --> 00:56:23,000
Speaker 7: Make it tough for no reason?

941
00:56:23,679 --> 00:56:25,679
Speaker 4: What should I do? Be strong?

942
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:30,559
Speaker 12: What should I do say if you first give you easy?

943
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:33,280
Speaker 4: How should I do be strong?

944
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:35,800
Speaker 3: What should I do?

945
00:56:36,159 --> 00:56:39,599
Speaker 4: Show the way? Cast a shadow? What should I do

946
00:56:40,199 --> 00:56:43,360
be strong? What should I do?

947
00:56:44,519 --> 00:56:46,760
Speaker 3: Make strong?

948
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Speaker 4: Back? It's clearer now.

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Speaker 14: That I've been too makes a great road, Sam for you?

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I heard now, baby, d are the ride at that

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Venny's line.

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Speaker 4: St now be rid line?

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Speaker 11: This fall, the ballpark isn't closing for the season.

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Speaker 15: It's waking up.

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Speaker 11: Step beyond the gates and into fright Nights at the Field,

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an immersive, haunted experience where the roar of the crowd

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has been replaced by whispers in the dark. Wander through

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twisted tunnels, ghost lit corridors, and the stadium itself now

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home to the things that never left live scare actors,

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movie quality sets, heart racing encounters around every corner. The

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game is over, but the nightmare has just begun. Fright

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nights in the field, there to play after dark.

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Speaker 16: The heartbeat of our community isn't in the building. It's

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in the people who help our students every day. It's

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in the bus driver who gets them to school safely,

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the crossing guard who greets them with a smile, the

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teacher who inspires them. The Manchester School District needs you,

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from substitute teachers and pair of educators to nurses and

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speech pathologists. Come find your purpose. Attend the Manchester School

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District Job Fair this Tuesday, October seventh that the welcome

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center at one forty eight Conquered Street in Manchester. Learn

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more at m a NSD dot Schoolspring dot com.

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Speaker 15: Luigi's Pizza Bar and grow every one wet phrases life

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subline with top into the ground.

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Speaker 6: It's a pizza by your mind.

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Speaker 15: Luigi's Pizza Bar and Grill, seven twelve Valley Street, Manchester.

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Come on in or call six two two one zero

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two one. Luigi keeping the tradition alive since nineteen seventy five.

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Speaker 4: Pizza for every one.

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Speaker 3: Come join a Beast tonight with each slice sense of it.

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Speaker 4: Everything feels so