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Speaker 4: Man, I'm doing good. I'm doing good in fact, but
Speaker 4: I'm keeping my fingers cross because I would love for
Speaker 4: it to be this sunny, this kind of temperature this
Speaker 4: time next week.
Speaker 2: I mean, who's to say it won't be right. I mean,
Speaker 2: this is the kind of year where you really like
Speaker 2: you could get really warm for you know, late October,
Speaker 2: or you could get you could get really cold. I
Speaker 2: feel like lately a week, I feel like lately Halloween
Speaker 2: has been more on the colder and even rainy side.
Speaker 2: Maybe my memory's bad, but I feel like we've had
Speaker 2: some bad luck with with Halloween lately.
Speaker 4: And that's why, and that's why I think we could
Speaker 4: we could really use some good luck.
Speaker 3: We're do We're do right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll speak it into existence. We will believe in
Speaker 2: the power of positivity. All right, Let's I want to
Speaker 2: start with most recent and then work our way back
Speaker 2: so Kentucky last night, first exhibition game of the Mark
Speaker 2: Pope era. Obviously they played really well, drained a bunch
Speaker 2: of threes. You can tell quite clearly the style of
Speaker 2: play Mark Pope is bringing with him to Kentucky. But
Speaker 2: I want to get your thoughts on your you know,
Speaker 2: obviously you've covered Kentucky for quite a while now, as
Speaker 2: well as all the other local teams. What was it
Speaker 2: like to have a new guy there? Cali Perry was
Speaker 2: there for a long time, and Cal's got his way
Speaker 2: of going about things. What was the experience like from
Speaker 2: your perspective, just, you know, covering a game even though
Speaker 2: it wasn't a real one, but the first, you know,
Speaker 2: the first exhibition of this new era.
Speaker 4: Well, I wasn't I wasn't at RUP last night, but
Speaker 4: I will say, you know, just the vibe around both
Speaker 4: programs are just so different right now and and some
Speaker 4: ways there it's pretty refreshing because you know I and
Speaker 4: just to talk to.
Speaker 2: I think it's refreshing in every way from my perspective.
Speaker 2: That's just me and Buddy.
Speaker 4: I don't blame you, but I think with I think
Speaker 4: with like Kentucky. You know, Cal had been there, for
Speaker 4: fifteen years, and so everything it was almost like rints
Speaker 4: repat repeat on everything, and you knew kind of how
Speaker 4: exactly everything was going to go and how he was
Speaker 4: going to react and all this other stuff. And so
Speaker 4: you know, he's he's at Arkansas now and Mark Pope's here,
Speaker 4: and he's he seems like he's loving it. But also
Speaker 4: it's like, Okay, there's a new style, there's new players,
Speaker 4: there's you know, you're going through so many things, and
Speaker 4: you're watching this coach go through so many things for
Speaker 4: a first time, and you're constantly learning about little things,
Speaker 4: and you know, I think, you know, I was already
Speaker 4: in Louisville when I think Poe brought his Utah Valley
Speaker 4: State team to Reperena one time. But I wasn't there
Speaker 4: that night. I don't remember watching Mark Pope coach coach
Speaker 4: a game, but I was even on TV or on
Speaker 4: the internet last night. I remember just kind of watching
Speaker 4: even just kind of trying to Okay, what what is
Speaker 4: he all about? Excuse me? In these moments, it's just
Speaker 4: a it's a completely different deal, and so and there
Speaker 4: and all of these things are steps in the process.
Speaker 4: So like last night was the first exhibition game, and
Speaker 4: then there'll be a first one, and then there'll be
Speaker 4: some you know, like games against directional schools. But then
Speaker 4: you know, and and and it happens for both Louisvood Kentucky.
Speaker 4: Not long you start playing big boys, yep, and then
Speaker 4: you really get to learn what Pope and Kelsey are
Speaker 4: all about.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, I maybe I'm just naive, but
Speaker 2: I get the sense that these two guys, both Pope
Speaker 2: and Kelsey, are extremely genuine with really just about everything
Speaker 2: they say. I mean, obviously they're given answers and saying
Speaker 2: things that you would expect a coach to say at
Speaker 2: these type of programs, and you know, given what the
Speaker 2: job is. But like, I think both of these guys
Speaker 2: are super passionate about where they are and really appreciative
Speaker 2: of the job they have, and that's refreshing to both
Speaker 2: of these fan bases. Just to give you an example,
Speaker 2: I don't think it's intentional, but there were a lot
Speaker 2: of things that Cali Perry did, other than losing to
Speaker 2: Oakland and Saint Peter's and whatnot, that really seemed to
Speaker 2: drive that fan base mad. As far as just some
Speaker 2: of the things he would say just cal Be and
Speaker 2: Cal and I think Pope, you know, he goes about
Speaker 2: it so much differently, and again I don't think it's intentional.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure he's trying to, you know, remind people
Speaker 2: that he's different than Cal. But like he's checking all
Speaker 2: the boxes. And I think Kentucky fans are experiencing joy
Speaker 2: that like they forgot was when it comes to like, hey,
Speaker 2: our coaches, he likes us, he likes our fan base.
Speaker 2: He's going to be nice to us. He's not going
Speaker 2: to talk to us like we're stupid. Oh, he's going
Speaker 2: to take questions from from some of us in the
Speaker 2: in the crowd during the postgame radio in you again,
Speaker 2: you got to win at these two places, there's no
Speaker 2: doubt about it. But I think both fans are really
Speaker 2: really all in on these guys because again they haven't played,
Speaker 2: they haven't coached a game yet, and we know that matters.
Speaker 2: But I think there's some real genuiness with both these guys,
Speaker 2: and I think for different reasons, both fan bases really
Speaker 2: needed that.
Speaker 4: Well, you know, I always think like Cali Perry kind
Speaker 4: of lives his life like with a with a chip
Speaker 4: on his shoulder from you know, from from whatever. So
Speaker 4: I always think he lived his life with a chip
Speaker 4: on his shoulder, or he lives his life with a
Speaker 4: chip on his shoulder, and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 4: like what he doesn't understand is is that way is
Speaker 4: fine when you're going to final fours, you know, And
Speaker 4: it's almost like, you know, he almost like, hey, why
Speaker 4: would you ever question me on this? You know, Yeah,
Speaker 4: I'm a Hall of Famer. You can't question anything. And
Speaker 4: so whether whether that's the media, whether that's the fans,
Speaker 4: but but guess what, when you're going to final fours,
Speaker 4: your fan base will eat out of the palm of
Speaker 4: your hand yep. When they don't when you're when you
Speaker 4: stop going to final fours over a period of time
Speaker 4: and it doesn't look like you're headed back there anytime soon,
Speaker 4: they will bite off your hand. And that's what he
Speaker 4: and that's what he experienced, Mark Pope. It feels like
Speaker 4: he is, you know, it almost feels like he from
Speaker 4: his time as a player at Kentucky and then being
Speaker 4: in the NBA in his experience like he almost feels
Speaker 4: like he is just lucky to be where he is
Speaker 4: and he's super appreciative of everything that happens. That's the
Speaker 4: vibe that he gets out Pat Kelsey very much, the
Speaker 4: appreciation vibe definitely is putting out that vibe. Now here's
Speaker 4: what we're going to learn about both of these guys
Speaker 4: when it's not going good.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 2: And that's when it's much to her to predict.
Speaker 4: And and so like whether you think something is genuine
Speaker 4: or whether you think it's you know, fake or this
Speaker 4: or this, When it doesn't go good, that's what reveals
Speaker 4: true character. And that's what we're gonna find out about
Speaker 4: both of these guys.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it maybe rather early.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, Kentucky's going to take on this
Speaker 2: talented duke team in the Champions Classic and look, they
Speaker 2: may beat them, you never know, but you know they've
Speaker 2: got potentially the number one player in America. And then
Speaker 2: obviously Louisville's got Tennessee in their second regular season games,
Speaker 2: so who knows. Maybe both teams find ways to win,
Speaker 2: but you're right, and again, those aren't those aren't you know,
Speaker 2: bad losses if you if both teams were to slip up.
Speaker 2: But yeah, that there's no doubt seeing how fans react
Speaker 2: and really seeing how coaches handle a potential setback that
Speaker 2: is viewed by everybody as you know, we shouldn't have
Speaker 2: lost that game. We were not playing nearly as good
Speaker 2: as we should be, and that's gonna happen. It's a
Speaker 2: long season, and you're right that we're gonna learn. We're
Speaker 2: learning things every day about these guys as they're in
Speaker 2: their new positions. But that's the one that I'm most
Speaker 2: eager to see, is you know, what kind of vibe
Speaker 2: are we getting from them if maybe there is a
Speaker 2: stretch of the season where things aren't going very well.
Speaker 2: Now let's switch gears here to Louisville football, because things
Speaker 2: haven't been going very well this season. They've lost three games,
Speaker 2: all to good teams. And I still happen to believe
Speaker 2: that this team actually has some good pieces and they've
Speaker 2: got a chance to you know, I mean, I think
Speaker 2: they can win every game left on the schedule.
Speaker 3: Now will they do it, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I mean, they've been pretty consistent as far as being
Speaker 2: a team that does make some crucial mistakes at bad times,
Speaker 2: and that's why they're sitting at four and three and
Speaker 2: two and two overall. And now they're going to be
Speaker 2: without one of their top receivers in Colin Lacey, who
Speaker 2: decided to opt out, taking advantage of the red shirt
Speaker 2: rule where if he played another snap, he would not
Speaker 2: have the ability to come back in twenty twenty five
Speaker 2: because he's opted out now he does. I mean, just
Speaker 2: your overall thoughts on this decision. I mean, it's not
Speaker 2: a big surprise in the grand scheme of things because
Speaker 2: of where college sports.
Speaker 3: Is right now.
Speaker 2: But I think for Louisville fans, at least from what
Speaker 2: I can tell when I do what I can as
Speaker 2: far as a checking of the poll, this is the
Speaker 2: first time I think Louisville fans have been hitting the
Speaker 2: gut with a guy just you know, taking advantage of
Speaker 2: this new world.
Speaker 5: Oh well, you know what, I wouldn't say it's the
Speaker 5: first time they've been hitting the gut because remember, like
Speaker 5: in the spring, Anny Boone.
Speaker 4: Bounced, bounced, you know what I mean. Like, so, I
Speaker 4: mean this is that that's that's a that's a harsh reality,
Speaker 4: but this is this is also part of it. Look,
Speaker 4: you know, it's kind of like those things that can
Speaker 4: you really blame the player, you know, like he's he's
Speaker 4: taken advantage of his rule because he's trying to either
Speaker 4: he wants a full season healthy, whether maybe he feels
Speaker 4: like he's done enough and he could back in the
Speaker 4: portal and maybe really get paid somewhere. Like you know,
Speaker 4: he's trying to you know, the young man and his
Speaker 4: agent or his people or whatever, they're just trying to
Speaker 4: make the best of their situation. And sometimes it's gonna
Speaker 4: you know, the school is gonna to pay the price
Speaker 4: in this and that's kind of that's kind of where
Speaker 4: we are now. But for him, he probably sees this as, look,
Speaker 4: I got one chance, Like the window is small, and
Speaker 4: so whatever that window looks like, I got to take
Speaker 4: advantage of it. And so it's you know, especially with
Speaker 4: Jayden Thompson being out for the year, it's a it's
Speaker 4: a really really tough blow to this offense moving forward
Speaker 4: because remember they lose him, They just lost Jamari Johnson
Speaker 4: for the year, and he had been their best tied
Speaker 4: end by far.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think, I mean, I see it from
Speaker 2: both sides. I see why fans are like, well, wait
Speaker 2: a second, this guy just doesn't want to play anymore.
Speaker 2: But it's because this is now a job for these
Speaker 2: student athletes. I mean, we can still call them that
Speaker 2: because I guess technically their students as well. But I
Speaker 2: mean he's utilizing not really a loophole. He's just making
Speaker 2: the most of the current situation. And I think if
Speaker 2: he's not an NFL guy, which I'm not sure if
Speaker 2: he is or not, I mean, he could play another
Speaker 2: year of college football and potentially put away some nil
Speaker 2: money that would probably be a lot more more than
Speaker 2: whatever his entry level position would be in his first
Speaker 2: job after football. I mean, who knows how it works
Speaker 2: out for him, But I just think if people were
Speaker 2: in that situation, and it's it's hard to relate to
Speaker 2: these players. I mean a lot of us are a
Speaker 2: lot older than them, and this is still relatively new
Speaker 2: when it comes to just how things have been for
Speaker 2: so long in college athletics.
Speaker 3: But if you're at a job and.
Speaker 2: You have a chance to do some things that could
Speaker 2: potentially benefit you and your career from not only you know,
Speaker 2: a successful standpoint, meaning where maybe you go play for
Speaker 2: a better team, or maybe you put away more money,
Speaker 2: like I think most of us would do the same thing.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, and look, you know the one thing that
Speaker 4: I that I see in all of that is is,
Speaker 4: you know, he's got to catch against Notre Dame. He's
Speaker 4: got the game tape against Miami, the kickoff return, some
Speaker 4: of the plays that he made as a wide receiver
Speaker 4: in that game, and he's doing that against a good team.
Speaker 4: That's a pretty good resume to put on if you
Speaker 4: go to the portal.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, right now.
Speaker 4: Look, I saw the same thing that everybody saw, Like
Speaker 4: the agent, Hey, we're working hard to get a deal
Speaker 4: to you know, return back. It's a strong possibility of
Speaker 4: returning back to Louisville in twenty twenty five. Now, let
Speaker 4: me ask you, Nick, would you be surprised if he
Speaker 4: ends up in the portal? Oh?
Speaker 2: No, I my prediction. I put this out there at
Speaker 2: three o'clock. I just said, if I had to guess
Speaker 2: how this plays out, they'll still play nice with Louisville
Speaker 2: meeting him and his agent, who's probably somebody the same
Speaker 2: age as him, and they will be available to negotiate
Speaker 2: with other schools and they'll keep Louisville in mind, and
Speaker 2: he'll probably get a big offer from a team that
Speaker 2: you know, maybe has a you know, has more momentum
Speaker 2: at that time for the next season. Like I mean,
Speaker 2: I'm not I wouldn't be stunned if he ends up
Speaker 2: back at Louisville. But I think he will absolutely go
Speaker 2: to the Portal. And my guess is that he'll end
Speaker 2: up elsewhere next year because he'll probably get a lot
Speaker 2: of money and it'll probably be a team that at
Speaker 2: that point maybe has a better outlook on twenty twenty
Speaker 2: five than Louisville does. Like that, That's that's my guess.
Speaker 4: Now, now here's the thing. You and I are on
Speaker 4: the same page. Yeah, yeah, just what just just that
Speaker 4: that's the that's the nature of the business. And yep,
Speaker 4: you know for these coaches, you know, coaching is just
Speaker 4: half the.
Speaker 2: Job, seemingly even less than half at time's man with
Speaker 2: all with with everything that goes into it.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I mean that's why, you know, that's why
Speaker 4: like if you're in a program that could kind of
Speaker 4: like afford it and you could do it, it's it
Speaker 4: would be great for these people to have, you know,
Speaker 4: like gms, you know, general managers and roles where you
Speaker 4: don't have to worry about it as much. But you
Speaker 4: know that's you know, only probably precious few can can
Speaker 4: probably afford something like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's uh again, I get why from like an
Speaker 2: emotional fan standpoint, like they just think, man.
Speaker 3: This sucks. I totally get it.
Speaker 2: But also I think, you know, eventually, I don't know
Speaker 2: if it'll be next year, five years from now, it'll
Speaker 2: be just an everyday thing where you realize guys are too.
Speaker 2: Now with Colin it is worth mentioning. His injury certainly
Speaker 2: is a huge factor here because if he never got injured,
Speaker 2: he had played and he wouldn't even have this opportunity.
Speaker 2: His injury, which again he came to Louisville, he got
Speaker 2: hurt that impacted his ability to play a full season
Speaker 2: in his last year. So his situation is a little
Speaker 2: unique as far as the timing here, but as far
Speaker 2: as dudes just realizing, hey, I can go ahead and
Speaker 2: just stop play and quit, as they say, opt out,
Speaker 2: whatever you want to call it, and that'll give me
Speaker 2: a chance to go play elsewhere and have another year.
Speaker 2: Or even if I don't make as much money as
Speaker 2: I made this past year, I can leave now and
Speaker 2: have you know, if I don't leave and I keep playing,
Speaker 2: then I won't have any money. So it's it's a
Speaker 2: new world, no doubt. Right, Let's go to Kentucky because
Speaker 2: I feel like we're doing reruns here when we talk
Speaker 2: Kentucky football camp, because they've had a couple of you know,
Speaker 2: real disappointing losses. In the last you know, losing to
Speaker 2: Vandy at home. I mean, it's not what it usually is,
Speaker 2: but still it's Vandy. And you know, obviously Kentucky wasn't
Speaker 2: as if they went out there and just lost to
Speaker 2: Vandy because Vandy was so talented. And then they go
Speaker 2: on the road to Florida, a team that you know,
Speaker 2: most people assume is going to move on from their
Speaker 2: coach at some point. They lose that game by four touchdowns.
Speaker 2: I mean I keep thinking, okay, well, eventually if they
Speaker 2: lose one, then it's really gonna be bad for Stoops
Speaker 2: and the fan base is going to be as toxic
Speaker 2: as ever. But like I kind of feel like there
Speaker 2: are there here is they get set to this Auburn matchup.
Speaker 4: Yeah. In fact, I would argue that like that that
Speaker 4: Georgia game and the Old Miss game for them, Like,
Speaker 4: I don't know where those two games came from, but
Speaker 4: that's not what this football team is. The outliers, right, Yeah,
Speaker 4: And so that's what you know, that's what we found out.
Speaker 4: I think this past Saturday at Florida was those two games.
Speaker 4: Those were really the outliers. And no, I I think
Speaker 4: the whole thing is in. I think it's like they
Speaker 4: could be staring at a just a massive downfall for
Speaker 4: the rest of the season. Like I I'll be honest
Speaker 4: with you, Like as I as I look at their
Speaker 4: their game this this Saturday against auburne like, I don't
Speaker 4: think they win that game. And then I think they
Speaker 4: got Murray State coming up in in a few weeks
Speaker 4: or whatever. You know, that's the that's the game they win,
Speaker 4: but they may not win another game for the rest
Speaker 4: of the year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they got Tennessee in Texas, which there
Speaker 2: you know, those are really really good teams. You have
Speaker 2: to go play, and you're playing poorly and losing to
Speaker 2: teams like Vandy and Auburn. I mean them winning four
Speaker 2: or five games is certainly on the table, right.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, And so you know, I think there's a
Speaker 4: couple sayings like losing Maxwell Harriston, who is an unbelievable
Speaker 4: cover corner that's really hurt their defense.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll see him on Saturday.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they've they've had a couple of injuries in their
Speaker 4: secondary that have really hurt them on the back end.
Speaker 4: And so I think they're doing a pretty good job
Speaker 4: against the run up front. But man, if you if
Speaker 4: you won't have the pieces back there that can that
Speaker 4: could cover and hold up, man, you're really going to struggle.
Speaker 4: And that's what's that's what's happening to them with their
Speaker 4: defense back there on the secondary. And then look it
Speaker 4: come it comes down to this, Like I get it
Speaker 4: early in the year, never played, you know, never started
Speaker 4: college games, never really started an SEC game like that.
Speaker 4: Stuff's gonna take some time. But Brock Vandergriff struggling, yep,
Speaker 4: and it does not the pieces around ing, And so
Speaker 4: it is it. You have to be able to do
Speaker 4: the simple things when it comes to throwing and catching.
Speaker 4: Like it. You can run the ball and you can
Speaker 4: be fifty to fifty balanced, but every now and then
Speaker 4: you're gonna have to pick up a third and eight.
Speaker 4: And so when you get the ball as a quarterback,
Speaker 4: you've got to be able to plant your foot, read
Speaker 4: a defense step, and throw with confidence. And I just
Speaker 4: don't if he does it, he does it five to
Speaker 4: ten percent of the time, and that's just not good. Enough.
Speaker 4: So I just don't. I just think that they took
Speaker 4: a stab at a at a highly touted high school
Speaker 4: quarterback that just never got his chance at Georgia. They
Speaker 4: thought he would be it. They were hoping because it's
Speaker 4: the same formula that they used with like a Will Levis,
Speaker 4: they hoped they were able to strike lightning twice. It
Speaker 4: just isn't It just isn't working out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I mean, the thought of them going
Speaker 2: four and eight or five and seven. I mean, again,
Speaker 2: as we discussed, it's clearly on the table. But I
Speaker 2: mean that would be the first time where I think
Speaker 2: a Kentucky team under Mark Stoops. You could because they've
Speaker 2: had years where they weren't that good, where their wins
Speaker 2: didn't get them to a bowl game or anything like that.
Speaker 2: But this would be I think the first time where
Speaker 2: objectively everybody would have to say they should have been
Speaker 2: a lot better.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: I know they've had injuries and they do have a
Speaker 2: tough schedule, clearly, but like this would be I think,
Speaker 2: you know, a Stoop season that would be different than
Speaker 2: than the others that were underwhelming.
Speaker 4: Well, and let's be honest, right, like the pieces the
Speaker 4: pieces around all of it. It all centered on the quarterback.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's an important position.
Speaker 4: Pro talked about it a bunch in fall camp, like
Speaker 4: what's he gonna look? Like, what's he gonna And by
Speaker 4: the way, he's like his arm talent is like the
Speaker 4: reason why some people write poetry, Like he can he's
Speaker 4: got a cannon. But if you can't read a defense,
Speaker 4: or you can't make a decision and step and throw
Speaker 4: with confidence and deliver accurate footballs, then then you're not
Speaker 4: doing anything. And like on the flip side, right, like
Speaker 4: Tyler Shuck at Louisville, like nobody really knew he showed flashes,
Speaker 4: but nobody ever saw it. So Shuck was kind of
Speaker 4: a question Martin going into this season. And did you
Speaker 4: see the ball, the twenty one yard touchdown pass that
Speaker 4: he threw to Jacory Brooks, Like that's putting your foot
Speaker 4: in the ground and that's that. And by the way,
Speaker 4: I don't know if you've seen the throw from the zone,
Speaker 4: like it feels like the ball should have been picked,
Speaker 4: but he just threaded a needle. He's like, whatever you
Speaker 4: need as a quarterback, Shuck has it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's what unfortunate for Louisville that, you know,
Speaker 2: and they could still finish the season strong. We'll see
Speaker 2: what happens the rest of the way. But I think
Speaker 2: I was listening to one of the NFL Draft podcast
Speaker 2: earlier this week, and he's not mentioned as somebody they
Speaker 2: expect to be, you know, one of the top guys
Speaker 2: in this draft. But one of the analysts mentioned that
Speaker 2: he's at Louisville been able to show some things with
Speaker 2: his arm that even when he was healthy at other schools,
Speaker 2: they never saw before. So yeah, that's one position you
Speaker 2: don't have to worry about for Louisville as the quarterback.
Speaker 2: But you know, they've not been able to close out
Speaker 2: in some of these bigger games. But can't we got
Speaker 2: to run. Always appreciate the conversation, my man, fingers crossed.
Speaker 2: Let's hope we get some good weather a week from today.
Speaker 4: All right, yes, sir, thank you buddy.
Speaker 2: Take care again. That's Kid Spencer from WHAS eleven. Good
Speaker 2: conversation each and every week with our man Kent quick break.
Speaker 2: We'll come back on the other side and myself and
Speaker 2: the company man, we got some games to discuss for
Speaker 2: this weekend. John's out tomorrow, so we'll talk about well
Speaker 2: I'll give him the Florida share his picks. I've got
Speaker 2: a few, but almost feel bad sharing him. You should
Speaker 2: fade him.
Speaker 3: That'll be your best bet.
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Speaker 2: for the show from three to six little road trip,
Speaker 2: I mean, not really. I mean it's not very far
Speaker 2: at all from here, but you know, taking the show
Speaker 2: on the road, which should be a lot of fun.
Speaker 2: Austin's going to be out there with me. John is out,
Speaker 2: but we'll try to carry on without him. Easier said
Speaker 2: than done, but we're certainly going to give it a shot.
Speaker 2: And then pregame show will start at six thirty, the
Speaker 2: Louisville Football Pregame Show presented by Pellow Windows and Doors
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Speaker 2: be a late night Tomorrow night. Me and my man Carl,
Speaker 2: that's right, isn't his name? Carl Blanton in the house
Speaker 2: to produce as we react to whatever happens tomorrow night
Speaker 2: in Chestnut Hills. So as soon as the game ends,
Speaker 2: we go live taking your phone calls. Probably a lot
Speaker 2: of drunk people, which usually is a lot of fun
Speaker 2: and it's even more fun whenever Louisville wins.
Speaker 3: So let's hope that that's the case.
Speaker 2: You don't have to be drunk to listen or call in,
Speaker 2: but you know, I can tell you there's probably going
Speaker 2: to be some folks late at night on a Friday for.
Speaker 3: One of two reasons.
Speaker 2: They're drinking, they're paying away, or they're celebrating because Louisville
Speaker 2: avoided what would be a bad loss to Boston College.
Speaker 2: But whatever happens, we'll react. It's the Louisville Football postgame Show,
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Speaker 2: All right, so real quick, before we get into some
Speaker 2: of our picks, have you seen what's going on with
Speaker 2: this Kansas and Arkansas charity scrimmage exhibition.
Speaker 6: I knew that they were having one, but I didn't
Speaker 6: know they were so maybe controversy that we about to
Speaker 6: get into it.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's not I don't know if it's controversy,
Speaker 2: but like this is so cow one.
Speaker 3: His first presser to get set.
Speaker 2: For a game, which again this is an exhibition, his
Speaker 2: first pressure at Arkansas to talk about an upcoming opponent.
Speaker 2: He sent Kenny Payne. He did see that he nos showed.
Speaker 2: I swear to God, John, and I don't do that often.
Speaker 2: I thought about seeing if that was a zoom presser
Speaker 2: option and getting on there and asking Kenny Payne about
Speaker 2: why sucks so bad at Louisville. I would have gone viral.
Speaker 2: I would have looked like an aol to some people,
Speaker 2: but it also would have been funny.
Speaker 6: It would have been funny.
Speaker 2: But I you know, I guess I'm more mature than
Speaker 2: I than I give myself credit for, because I resisted
Speaker 2: in doing that. But anyways, so, but there's a bunch
Speaker 2: of injuries, and I guess this thing's going to be
Speaker 2: streamed somewhere, like Indiana's playing Tennessee or is it.
Speaker 6: It's Tennessee and it'll be on SEC Network Plus or whatever.
Speaker 2: Okay, it'll be a stream and I'm jealous. I wish
Speaker 2: Louisville was playing, you know, an opponent that was believed
Speaker 2: to be good or expected to be good, just to
Speaker 2: see where you stand. Again, though, it's not a real game,
Speaker 2: so if you lose, you're worried that maybe your team's
Speaker 2: not as good as you thought they were. And if
Speaker 2: you win, you don't get any credit for beating a
Speaker 2: team that if it was a real game like it
Speaker 2: would give you a lot of value, you know.
Speaker 6: What I mean, least you hope it's competitive.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so Louisville did this a few years ago. In fact,
Speaker 2: it was Max's best season, that twenty twenty team that
Speaker 2: ended up being really good. They scrimmaged Ohio State, who
Speaker 2: was I think borderline top twenty five. Louisville was preseason
Speaker 2: top ten top five that year, and Ohio State got
Speaker 2: them pretty good. But none of us saw box score.
Speaker 2: None of us saw anything. So it was almost like
Speaker 2: you heard about it and you were kind of worried,
Speaker 2: but you know, without seeing it or even knowing the
Speaker 2: final score, you kind of forgot about it. But if
Speaker 2: you get to watch it, I mean again, it won't
Speaker 2: really mean a whole lot. But you know, if you're
Speaker 2: if you're a diehard fan of your team when it
Speaker 2: comes to college hoops, and your team has expectations, which
Speaker 2: obviously Indiana does, I mean Kansas and Arkansas do as well.
Speaker 6: So it's a chance for Louisville fans to see what
Speaker 6: two of your opponents will look like.
Speaker 3: That's true.
Speaker 2: Yeah, two teams you're gonna play pretty early, so I
Speaker 2: hadn't thought about it that way. But anyways, there's so
Speaker 2: many guys out for both of these teams that like
Speaker 2: they're already kind of hinting that it's not going to
Speaker 2: be like a real game. So Hunter Dickinson's not going
Speaker 2: to play. He hasn't practiced. It sounds like in a
Speaker 2: couple of weeks, uh, Shaquille Moore a transfer to Kansas
Speaker 2: from Mississippi State, one of their guards, another transfer from Alabama,
Speaker 2: Ryland Griffin, also a guard, they're going to be out.
Speaker 2: They're not playing, so you know, Dwan Harris, kJ Adams,
Speaker 2: their returning guys are playing. One of their other transfer
Speaker 2: Zeke Mayo, is going to be playing. But after that,
Speaker 2: it's going to be a lot of reserves, Like they
Speaker 2: don't even have a whole lot of bodies. And when
Speaker 2: it comes to Arkansas, I don't know what kind of
Speaker 2: injuries they've got going on, but it sounds like, yeah,
Speaker 2: it says they're gonna be without five players. Some of
Speaker 2: it I mean Thiero of course, former Kentucky player Janelle Davis,
Speaker 2: one of the top guys in the portal. Also, they're
Speaker 2: big guy Adu who transfer from Tennessee. I mean, he's
Speaker 2: been limited and has not been in any contact drills
Speaker 2: or practices lately, so I mean, to me, it kind
Speaker 2: of seems like a real waste, but you know whatever,
Speaker 2: but Cal implemented a rule here that they're going to
Speaker 2: play quarters instead of haves and there's actually going to
Speaker 2: be some stoppage for practice type situations here for coaches
Speaker 2: to work on things and show thing. I mean to me,
Speaker 2: this is Cal doing what Cal does, always wanting to
Speaker 2: have controlled getting away with things that most wouldn't even
Speaker 2: attempt to do, like change this from an actual exhibition
Speaker 2: scrimmage to we'll play some quarters and maybe let them
Speaker 2: play a game a knockout and we'll all yuck it up,
Speaker 2: because that's I mean, Cal's.
Speaker 3: Cal would probably get killed if everybody was healthy here.
Speaker 3: But like then this likes in this a playbook out
Speaker 3: of Cal's.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but I'm sure Kentucky fans are looking from afar
Speaker 6: like Okay, I'm glad we're getting away from this guy.
Speaker 2: And look, I appreciate Kentucky fans who in the now
Speaker 2: will acknowledge this thing for what it is. And what
Speaker 2: I mean by that is like maybe one day there's
Speaker 2: that Kumba y'a moment with cal and he comes back.
Speaker 2: But like right now you can say that you appreciate
Speaker 2: all that he did and know that it worked out
Speaker 2: really good for you because he just left. But also
Speaker 2: to act as if that means you're going to be pulling. No,
Speaker 2: if this was a real scrimmage, and look it is
Speaker 2: gonna be I guess, I mean they're doing quarters. I
Speaker 2: guess they're keeping score, but like you will clown him
Speaker 2: endlessly if they get mopped in this game. And that's okay,
Speaker 2: that's what this is. He's now the enemy for the
Speaker 2: time being, and he maybe the enemy long term.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 4: But like.
Speaker 2: Mark Pope saying, we we we hope, uh we hope
Speaker 2: Cayle Pull wins every game with the lessons February first, Uh,
Speaker 2: Like no, Like that's the one time that I heard
Speaker 2: Mark Pope and I'm sure he's done it before. Or
Speaker 2: I'm like, no, you aren't. Like you can say that,
Speaker 2: but that's not playing the hits yet. That's not what
Speaker 2: your fans want to hear. Now, they're gonna just assume
Speaker 2: you're being honest and think that you're great. But like, no,
Speaker 2: I mean cal left you, and again you're happy left,
Speaker 2: but he's he's an ex and you want your ex
Speaker 2: to be down bad. Let's be honest here, all right,
Speaker 2: give me your first pick, actually the first pick, give
Speaker 2: me be the one you're most confident in this weekend, John.
Speaker 6: So I've got a couple of different parlays. I won't
Speaker 6: necessarily give you every little pick, but one thing that
Speaker 6: I'm really confident in is Ohio State and minus twenty
Speaker 6: five and a half against Nebraska at home. Okay, obviously,
Speaker 6: you know what happened with Nebraska against Indiana last week,
Speaker 6: and I think Ohio State's going to feel some sort
Speaker 6: of pressure to kind of equal that type of result
Speaker 6: against the Nebraska team who may be reeling right now.
Speaker 6: So that's why I'm pretty confident in so far for
Speaker 6: my first pick.
Speaker 2: My and again, I don't know how confident I am
Speaker 2: in any of these, if I'm being honest with you.
Speaker 2: But Oklahoma twenty and a half point dogs to Ole Miss,
Speaker 2: and Oklahoma just got waxed by South Carolina, and Ole
Speaker 2: Miss is a better team, but that's too many points.
Speaker 2: I mean, I know they're a mess. And Britt Venables
Speaker 2: he needs to start winning or he may not even
Speaker 2: be at.
Speaker 3: Oklahoma next year.
Speaker 2: But I look, I mean again, thirty four to three
Speaker 2: to Texas, thirty five to nine to South Carolina. But
Speaker 2: I just don't see them losing this game by three touchdowns.
Speaker 2: I could see them losing by closer to fourteen or seventeen.
Speaker 2: And I wouldn't be shocked if they come out and compete,
Speaker 2: because you know, I think they are better than what
Speaker 2: you've seen up to this point, and Ole Miss I
Speaker 2: feel like, right now, you got to call it like
Speaker 2: it is. They're not terrible, but they're nowhere near a
Speaker 2: national championship contender, like everybody said that roster was before
Speaker 2: the season started. So again, I won't lie to you
Speaker 2: and say that I'm like totally confident, but I just
Speaker 2: think that's too many points for an Oklahoma team that
Speaker 2: still has some pride about them. I would assume they're
Speaker 2: going to come out and look to compete. So that's
Speaker 2: what I'm definitely going to be adding is Oklahoma plus
Speaker 2: twenty and a half. I may buy half a point
Speaker 2: just to you know, potentially have a push because if
Speaker 2: they lose by twenty one, that'd be a tough one
Speaker 2: to take. But that's one for me that stands out.
Speaker 3: What about you?
Speaker 6: Here's another one standing in the Big ten for this one,
Speaker 6: And this is a team that I feel like, even
Speaker 6: when they put together good results, they're still getting disrespected
Speaker 6: by Vegas. And that's Illinois plus twenty one and a
Speaker 6: half at Oregon. And I know it's on the road
Speaker 6: in the West Coast, but Oregon seems to kind of
Speaker 6: play down to teams at certain times. And not that
Speaker 6: Illinois is a bad team, but they've been competitive against
Speaker 6: every team they played and even beaten some of them,
Speaker 6: like Michigan, Nebraska. They were competitive against Penn State when
Speaker 6: they lost on the road. And I think Illinois will
Speaker 6: at the very least keep this one within three touchdowns.
Speaker 2: I know Alabama fans are losing their mind, but I
Speaker 2: think they cover seventeen here they're at home. They're better
Speaker 2: than Missouri. Missouri was the fakest Top ten team of
Speaker 2: all time. Like Missouri nearly lost to Boston College. They
Speaker 2: really got it again. I mean, you can't control it,
Speaker 2: but they benefited in a major way from beating a
Speaker 2: not legit Ohio State team in a bowl game, and
Speaker 2: I mean not legit that they didn't have all their
Speaker 2: guys play, because Ohio State is the kind of program that, like, no,
Speaker 2: if we're on the playoff, like all my NFL draft
Speaker 2: player draft picks are not going to play in that game.
Speaker 2: So you know, Missouri, I mean, they barely got by
Speaker 2: against Auburn. They did beat you, Mass, but that's you Mass.
Speaker 2: But then they lost and got their ass kicked by
Speaker 2: a and m barely beat Vandy, a game they should
Speaker 2: have lost. Again, barely beat Boston College. The other games
Speaker 2: were against Buffalo and Murray State. So I mean, I'm
Speaker 2: not buying them in general, and I would take Bama
Speaker 2: to cover big even if this wasn't the case. But
Speaker 2: this makes it to where I can't believe the number
Speaker 2: hasn't jumped up more than seventeen because their quarterback, Brady
Speaker 2: Cook is not going to play, and then the running
Speaker 2: back who is their leading rusher also not going to play,
Speaker 2: Nate Noel. So I mean, you're without your leading rusher,
Speaker 2: without your starting quarterback. Bama is at home. I know
Speaker 2: they've not. I mean, clearly this is this is this
Speaker 2: isn't Nick Saban in Alabama. But you know, Bama did
Speaker 2: just lose to a good Tennessee team by a touchdown
Speaker 2: and they're still just a lot better. I mean, I
Speaker 2: think even if Missouri was at full strength, I wouldn't
Speaker 2: be shocked if they beat Missouri at home by four touchdowns,
Speaker 2: because that's just the way I see it. So I
Speaker 2: want to get on that one quickly because I wouldn't
Speaker 2: be shocked at that one's closer to twenty. As far
Speaker 2: as the spread by the time we get to kick off,
Speaker 2: are you got one more you want to share?
Speaker 6: I do. I like the over in Miami FSU which
Speaker 6: I believe right now it's at fifty four and a half,
Speaker 6: and I may be I may start betting the over
Speaker 6: in every Miami game moving forward if they continue to
Speaker 6: put up points the way that they do, and I
Speaker 6: think that just seems like a very safe play this weekend.
Speaker 3: What did you say that the total was?
Speaker 6: I got it at fifty four and a half.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like that one.
Speaker 2: I'm instead of giving you another pick, I'm just gonna
Speaker 2: I'm gonna emphasize that this is a good play here
Speaker 2: because Miami could could potentially get that on their own.
Speaker 2: And then the formula that I'm referencing here at sports
Speaker 2: Line has has this as a thirty six to twenty
Speaker 2: one victory, which would put it at fifty seven. So
Speaker 2: right now it is at fifty four and a half.
Speaker 2: You say that's what you got it at. Yes, Yeah,
Speaker 2: So I like that because again, Miami, I mean they're
Speaker 2: gonna score, there's no doubt about that.
Speaker 3: And you know they may not.
Speaker 2: They could give up maybe ten or thirteen to this
Speaker 2: bad Florida State team, and I would still I would
Speaker 2: still say, Okay, that's enough, because Miami is going to
Speaker 2: do their part the formula here. Again, they've got thirty
Speaker 2: six points. I think Miami scores in the forties here,
Speaker 2: just because they've got that kind of momentum. And look,
Speaker 2: Florida State, Like I wouldn't be shocked if Florida State
Speaker 2: lost this game fifty seven to three. I mean that
Speaker 2: would be an insane beat down. But like Florida State
Speaker 2: is is is they.
Speaker 6: Have nothing, nothing that they have to say. That team
Speaker 6: has nothing to play for playing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but like again, like this is the kind of
Speaker 2: situation where you fade teams because of the snowball, right, Like,
Speaker 2: you get down ten points, you're dead. You get down
Speaker 2: a touchdown, you might be dead at this point because
Speaker 2: you can tell yourself, hey, this is you know, one game,
Speaker 2: one game season, the next game is is all that matters?
Speaker 2: The human elements a powerful thing. These guys know they're
Speaker 2: the biggest embarrassment in college football, and they know they're
Speaker 2: the most potentially underwhelming team of all time in college football,
Speaker 2: depending on how this season plays out.
Speaker 6: So I've got to throw one more out there. That's
Speaker 6: my upset pick of the week. We're taking Navy money
Speaker 6: line against Notre Dame. Okay, it's happening.
Speaker 3: I like that. I like that.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know if I'll take a money line,
Speaker 2: but thirteen and a half is too many. I think
Speaker 2: good stuff, good stuff, right quick pick will come back
Speaker 2: on the other side and wrap this thing up. I
Speaker 2: am jealous of one of our listeners who mentioned they're
Speaker 2: heading out to the game tomorrow and Boston should be.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's.
Speaker 2: Annually, or I guess not annually because you don't play
Speaker 2: them every year at their place. But I always say
Speaker 2: that you should go to one. You should try to
Speaker 2: if you can make it work. If you can't make
Speaker 2: it work, I totally understand, especially in this economy, and
Speaker 2: also the team being good as a factor as well.
Speaker 2: But a road trip, one football road trip year is
Speaker 2: I think worth doing if you can make it happen.
Speaker 2: And Louisville has had mostly the same type of destinations,
Speaker 2: and neutral sites don't really count. I mean they do
Speaker 2: what they don't like, I'm not like super anti like
Speaker 2: playing a random game against a team in a different city.
Speaker 2: Like I just to me, going on the road and
Speaker 2: going in an environment where you know, there's you know,
Speaker 2: it's a real college football home environment. That's what makes
Speaker 2: it fun. So Boston College would never really check that box,
Speaker 2: right because I mean the state, I mean, the facilities
Speaker 2: are kind of a dump compared to everybody else in
Speaker 2: the ACC. They're never usually a team that you're excited
Speaker 2: to play because you know it's Boston College. But Boston,
Speaker 2: of course is a phenomenal city. So yeah, I'm jealous
Speaker 2: that that some fans are going, and I hope that
Speaker 2: Louisville wins on Friday and then you enjoy the rest
Speaker 2: of your time there in the in the northeast, all right,
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Speaker 2: Enjoy your night, John, enjoy your long weekend.
Speaker 3: My man will do.
Speaker 2: I'm sure when we come back on Monday, we'll still
Speaker 2: be talking about an undefeated Indiana team.
Speaker 1: I hope, so.
Speaker 2: Hopefully, hopefully, when you return, Louisville has not lost to
Speaker 2: Boston College. Fingers crossed.
Speaker 3: Have a good night, everybody,