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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Fred Green with an exclusive invitation for

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our golf Smarter community. I'm thrilled to invite you for

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a weekend of golf with me from March twenty sixth

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to the thirtieth and twenty twenty five on the renowned

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Robert Trent Jones Trail. Luckily, this incredible golf experience is

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being managed by the travel pros at TMI Golf, Alan

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Tulleth and Tera Fox.

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Speaker 2: Hi Fred, Nice.

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Speaker 3: To see you again. Hi Fred, Nice to see you again.

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Speaker 1: Hey guys, thanks so much for all your efforts. So

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we have three rounds scheduled. After we arrive and have

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dinner on Wednesday night in Birmingham, Alabama. Then Thursday morning

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we'll play our first round on the trail at the

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Oxmore Valley Ridge Course.

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Speaker 4: It's a Robert Trent Jones design course which has been

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brought up today in the last three or four years.

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Speaker 3: People say you'll really love it.

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Speaker 1: And then Friday we're playing the Rossbridge Golf Course.

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Speaker 4: And this is a championship course in a different resort,

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but very cleo. The result before on the golf course

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is supposed to be magnificent.

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Speaker 1: Now on Saturday we're going to go back to Oxmore

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Valley and play the valley course again.

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Speaker 4: I had a bit of work in the last few

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years twenty twenty one, I think just right after COVID

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upgrade it from the original design, so people who played

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Speaker 6: That's funny, so that I always like in high school

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and they'd have this business Emily as people come talk

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to you and they'd be an athlete or something like, okay,

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we know only like point zeros and something percent of

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you will make it to play pro sports and need

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a backup plan off like that such bs. I mean,

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if you only have a backup plan in your mind,

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that's probably where you're going to end up doing. You know,

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to golf Smarter for members only.

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Speaker 3: Matt.

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm having fun. I don't ever get to talk

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to PGA Tour players, so this is a lot of

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fun for me.

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Speaker 6: Thank you, all right, talk for me too, good.

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Speaker 1: Thanks. I'm real curious to talk about your game, specifically

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about your game. We've talked about your history and things

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and having a tour, a caddy on tour, what kind

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of changes that does for you. But I'm curious what

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it's like. Well, here's here's an interesting one. So in

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twenty twelve, you may or may not know this, Matt,

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but according to the statistics online you earned nearly two

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million dollars.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, so.

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Speaker 1: That's pretty cool, not bad for a couple of years

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out of college. But you know, when you get into athletics,

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you know, you college golfers, you probably had some really

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stiff competition, but getting into the tour a completely different beast. Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Well, I mean, well, for one, what you did in

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college is just doesn't matter anymore. It's not like the NFL,

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where if you're the best out of college, I mean

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you're set, you know, I mean, if you don't perform

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money wise, you're set. So it's different that way.

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Speaker 1: You also talked about before that when you were in college,

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it's like carte blanche that you had your own the

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team had a jet to take you to different tournaments,

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and and someone was there carrying your bags and stuff.

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when you you know, graduate from high school to college,

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you're a freshman again. When you graduate from college and

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you go out in the real world, you're a rookie again.

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player versus being an elite college player.

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Speaker 6: Well, being a PGA Tour player is awesome, But you

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know there's not always you know, not every pro offer

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is on the PGA Tour. Now, if you're on the tour,

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there's not much of a transition. I mean it. Uh

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we flew private in college because we were the let

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to use the university's jackets. We're the smallest team or

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the only team I could do that really, I mean

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the tennis team. But you know, if you have a

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PGA tour, you're flying good. I mean, you know, it's

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not It's not the worst thing the world to fly commercial.

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Speaker 6: Uh yeah, I might hit to ride every now somebody's playing.

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Speaker 1: Like who you who have you had to ride with?

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Speaker 6: Oh? Man, I guess uh.

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Speaker 1: You mind me asking?

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Speaker 6: Is that okay? Robert Garrigus, Uh.

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Speaker 1: And these are guys with their own planes.

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hours by by hours and yeah that way. I don't think. Really,

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I don't even know if anybody else around playing. I'm

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sure Tigers and until but uh, I'm like a no

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Speaker 1: That's a lot of upkeep, and and with with two

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million dollars in earnings, I'm just gonna keep throwing it

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in your face. What kind of expenses I mean do

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overhead two million. They throw this number of two million,

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but that's probably not what you're taking home by the

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Speaker 6: We baker coun million dollars. I mean, there's all kinds

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of stuff. Depends how you want to live out there.

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you know, it might be one hundred and fifteen hundred

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dollars a night hotel minimums in some weeks. And if

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you want to grind and save money, uh, you can

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live cheap out there. But you know, the expenses as

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far as like a trainer, like if as trainers teachers,

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you're gonna pay a caddy, you know, travel and if

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you're going around with the family too, I mean, you

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expenses they add up fast out there, for sure. But

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one fifty, I mean you're not making much money out there.

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for the number that says, you'd think he'd made a

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Speaker 1: And you're a new dad a little boy. I don't know,

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I've been married probably not too long.

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Speaker 6: Three years, little three years.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So does your wife and now son travel with

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you as well or not there yet?

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Speaker 6: He uh traveled a little. He was born on July

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fourth this year. Then, uh, and the first tournament he

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came to was the Boston Playoff Line at George S.

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and it went pretty easy. He was so young, but

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on the plane like he just didn't care, you know,

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couple of weeks ago. I stayed on there with me

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Speaker 1: And so those expenses have to you know, these add up, obviously,

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and they cut into your your earnings. But what does

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I mean, I've got to believe that when you're playing

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a four day tournament, you know, the at the end

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of each round, that are you playing it back in

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your head and thinking about what you did wrong, what

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you want to correct, and different parts on the course.

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Because you're playing the same course every day. What happens

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at night for you after each round when you're on

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the tour.

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Speaker 6: Uh, well, everyone's different. I'm asking that, okay, perfect, Well,

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I'll tell you I when I get done, it is,

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I might go to the range five percent of the time.

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After I'm done. I don't like to practice after I'm

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usually ready to ready to leave. And because the round

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stick for a route there you're out there, including your

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warm up, for about six and a half seven hours,

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and it's just you're you're mentally fried usually when you're done,

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especially if you're in contention, and uh, it's I don't

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I know that. When I go home, I'm gonna eat

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dinner with my friend. My family's out, I wrote them,

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even with my friends, we're gonna have a good time.

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And then I might think about, you know, my around

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then when I'm relaxed and can think about it, and

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usually I know the changes I need to make, and

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I'm good enough to make them a bit stay on

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the range. I don't need to be there after practice

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I practice in my whole life. You know. Some guys

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are totally different, though. Some guys will stay there until

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dark every day, and that's just not me. I can't

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Speaker 1: Do you spend a lot of time practicing when you're

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not competing?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I definitely do that. I mean I'm not like

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today I was out. I mean I practiced from eight

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thirty to right before I start talking to you. So

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about three o'clock.

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Speaker 1: And and what what do you do to focus your practice?

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working on everything or do you say, all right today,

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I'm just going to focus on fifty yards and end.

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Speaker 6: I don't do that. Some guys do it, But I

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work on everything every day. I mean, like, you know,

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the add kicks in sometimes and I just can't sit

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have to you know, like my divit like this is

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a great way to spread it. How I play my

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dibots on the range. Everyone will take a nice neat square,

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you know, off the range hit My dibits are all

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over the place. I never have a pattern there. The

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ball goes in a different place, I'll teet it right

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behind the next divit. You know, have you ever been

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to a tool of it? You go to the range

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and all the debit patterns are like perfect perfect rectangles

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or something like that. Like I hit balls from all

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over the range just because I can't sit there and

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do it.

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Speaker 1: Oh, Matt, thank you so much for giving us permission

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to not do it that way.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and actually the greensekeepers like it better if you

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do that. Really Yeah, I would say it's easier to

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grow back if you don't do it all in one area,

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if you kind of scatter it out a little bit.

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Speaker 1: So then why do players do that?

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Speaker 6: I don't know, man, anything it looks cool. I probably

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are their robots.

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Speaker 1: Oh well, please hold don't hold back just because of me. Man,

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you can say whatever you'd like. I don't mind. It's

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only a podcast. And so you're out there practicing everything

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and every day and like a certain amount of time

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or until you're saying, okay, I got that and I'm

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done with that today, I'll do I'll work on that again.

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Speaker 6: A normal like when I'm not traveling, I'm a normal person.

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So if I have stuff to do that day, like

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if my wife needs me to do something, or you know,

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if she's going to get something done. She needs you

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to watch your kid. I mean, I will do that first.

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I would rather do that, I mean all the time.

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But if something is lacking, then yeah, I'm gonna go

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work on it because it's my job, you know. I mean,

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I know what the right amount of attention is for

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me and what too much is. Like I mean, I'm

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not out here every day nine to five, and like,

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I don't treat it like a ninety five job. I

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think it would do me a disservice to do that.

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So I just kind of do whatever feels right when

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it's right. I don't want to leave it.

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Speaker 1: And do you work with a coach on a regular

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basis as well?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: I do?

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Speaker 1: And so does your coach create a game plan for

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you on your practice sessions or leaves you alone just

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working on tweaking things with you? Laughing?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, like the whole add thing again, Like I just don't.

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You can't tell me to do one thing, like I don't.

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I don't like he like, because I'm not gonna I

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might do it for ten minutes, but then I'm totally

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off the topics, you know.

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Speaker 3: So I just.

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Speaker 6: I don't know. I kind of I do my own thing.

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He tries some times he tries to give me like

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this game plan and stuff and what are your goals,

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and that I don't do goals. You know, I do

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do it. I'd try my best and then whatever it

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ends up, it ends up. But like a goal center, so.

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Speaker 1: You're living your life one shot at a time. Oh yeah,

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m hmm, boy do I relate.

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Speaker 6: But it's like my strength is getting over mat shots.

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I mean that my all. Like it's not putting and

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grabbing anything. It's it's being able to forget the last

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swing because it just doesn't matter anymore. And I am

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it's it's a big waste energy thinking about it.

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Speaker 1: I'm real curious to pursue that getting over bad shots.

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I mean, like instantly you're done.

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Speaker 6: Well, you can't make a committed swing on the next

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shot if you hit a bad shot the shot before

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and you're still thinking about it, Yeah, there's no way

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you're gonna make a committed swing at the next one,

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like like I said, like I said, I mean, I

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would so much rather hit a committed bad shot than

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to d sl and bail, Like if there's water left

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and a pen left, I would rather hit it in

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the water as this may sound, barely and be close

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to a good shot, then bail out right and make

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you know, not get up and down and make buggy

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like that would really that would bother me, you know, yeah,

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but I would if I don't know. Ever since I

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adopted that, it's been great. So really hit a lot

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of a lot more good shots, uh, under the gun

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with that mentality.

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Speaker 1: And when you are in a committed shot, but it

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is it hits the water barely, like you just said,

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it barely hits the water, do you step back and

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go run club?

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Speaker 6: No, I mean I know what, I immediately know what

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like if it's too. You know, if I made a mistake,

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I know what. I'm the one who does it. I

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mean I've done in my whole life, so I know

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immediately while you're a little quick at the top there,

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you know, or or this or we had to win

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wrong or something like that. But I always know what

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it is, and I don't I don't dwell on it.

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I mean it's just not it's you don't have time

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to dwell on it out there. I mean it's a

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slow moving game, but before you know, it's the next

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shots up, and if you keep thinking about it, you're

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going to be off the tour.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and and your you you must hate the pace

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of PGA play or are you just used to it?

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Speaker 6: I've gotten used to it. I mean there's the problem

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is there's no incentive for anyone to play fast, so

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why would they play. I mean the fines are like

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I think it's like twenty grand for if you have

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ten bad times, and you really have to be slating

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at ten bad times, right, But the guys who are

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playing slow, they don't care about you know, ten or

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twenty grand. I mean that's not worth it's not worth,

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that's not worth it for them to speed up because

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their games might change and then they're off the door.

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Speaker 1: You know, yeah, yeah, what about And I want to

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get into like club selection, club distances and things like that,

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especially in these committed shots, you know, taking these and

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going right after it. I was having a conversation on

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one of our recent episodes with with the Wedge Guy.

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We have this guy, Terry Taylor's The Wedge Guy makes

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a great product called The of Wedges. He has a

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set of wedges, and he his whole thing is treating

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it as if you're like, you're nine iron is more

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of a wedge than it is like a five iron, right,

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So he designs these nine through sand and lob wedges,

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you know, set of five wedges. Anyway, and we were

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talking about if you I was like, if you had

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a chance to ask a PGA tour player, what would

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you ask him? He says, like, so a couple of

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these questions like what are the distances you hit your

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nine iron and your pitching wedge? Curious?

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Speaker 6: And I mean mine, like it's as so much to

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do as the weather, I mean the temperature everything, Like

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like if it's like today, it's perfect out here today

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and I could probably hit a pitching wedge stock not

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not you know, trying to nail it one hundred and

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thirty five yards. A nine iron is probably one point fifty,

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but those clubs can fluctuate the other way ten yards

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either way, depending on the weather and the land and

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stuff like that.

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Speaker 1: Of course. I mean that's golf, right, right, Yeah, you

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gotta you gotta take everything and it can. That's why,

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that's why playing for money makes me crazy, because I

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feel like I'm competing with so many other things. Why

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bring money into it too? Yeah, that just that just

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puts me over the top. It's like, I got to

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deal with the weather and the ground and the club

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and you know, uphill and I'm on a you know

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an even lie. There's just too much going on at

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any given time, and I want to do that. So

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so here you have a nine iron one fifty. Uh,

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the pitch one thirty five, all things being perfect, right,

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all conditions being perfect. Let's just say you're at the

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one thirty five one fifty. What do you do for

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a one forty three shot? I mean, what do you

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do on your in betweens? Do you pull?

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Speaker 6: There's a couple of things you have to take into consideration.

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Where is where is this? Okay? So if it's a

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back pin, okay, well, all right, I'll give you I'll

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give you a good example. So you got a one

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shot and the and the pen is in the back,

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and the greens are firm, you're going to hit a

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wedge because you can't fly it to the pin because

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then it's going to hop over the green. But say

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the greens are a wet, then you know, you might

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be able to get it there. But if you nail it,

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it's gonna have so much spin on it, it's gonna

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come backwards and then you're gonna have like three feet

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up pill. Well, if it's wet greens and back pin

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and you take the nine and you just kind of

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you know, I mean, it's hard to teach people how

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to hit it hard and soft. The biggest thing I

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would say when people try to start, you know, finagling

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the speed of the swing, just make sure you keep

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swinging with your body, you know, don't just get armsy

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and handsy with it. It's the whole lot. He has

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to keep moving. You don't stop and get handy to

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you know, try and enagle loft and stuff like that.

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So big, use your big muscles. That's what I think

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about when I'm trying to take some off, use my

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big muscles, but shorten.

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Speaker 1: It up lowbo awesome. So now let's kind of pick

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into that a little bit. Uh, how do you do

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you look at your stats? Do you care about your

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dats at all? Or is it just shot all right? Interesting?

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It just doesn't matter to you.

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Speaker 6: You can't lie to yourself. I mean, if you are,

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you're an idiot. You know, I know what I know

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what I need to work on. I mean, what do

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you need to work on it? I don't need it.

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Oh man, driving accuracy, Like if I if I drive

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it good, I'll usually play good. Because I'm a great

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iron player. I'm the middle irons or I think they're

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probably I think they're roll pass I mean that's when

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it's good. It's so cool to watch. But uh, and

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then everyone can always work on their punting because you

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can never be a good enough putter. I mean, you

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can just clean up. You can hide so much stuff.

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Button good, you know what I mean? Yeah, just save shots.

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That's where you saved the shots.

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Speaker 1: It's so interesting because I was I was looking at

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your stats on the PGA website and according to some

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of these numbers. And I'd love for you to dispute

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this or tell me hear your surprise on this for

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par four and I guess these are your two. Yeah,

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twenty twelve stats par four you were first and Birdie

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or better.

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00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:13,559
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's cool. I guarantee you that go back to

477
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:18,200
committed and not worrying about the result, because those things

478
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,599
turn out good more than they turn out bad. And

479
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,319
I don't like to play away from pens and stuff,

480
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,799
so I think don't really, I mean, it's it's cool

481
00:25:25,799 --> 00:25:30,079
to hear I didn't. I didn't know that, but I

482
00:25:30,079 --> 00:25:31,480
mean that's what I would attribute it too.

483
00:25:32,039 --> 00:25:33,759
Speaker 1: So do you think you were that good on par

484
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:34,599
five's as well?

485
00:25:35,519 --> 00:25:37,079
Speaker 6: No, it's freaking horrible.

486
00:25:38,799 --> 00:25:43,400
Speaker 1: Actually, you are corrector you are corrector you are awful

487
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,119
on par five day rank you is one hundred and

488
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,559
forty third on fivenny Man.

489
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:54,559
Speaker 6: So U I always catch to my buddies, h you know,

490
00:25:54,599 --> 00:25:57,160
because I'll be at home watching me play and then

491
00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:00,559
you know, scorecard, I'll be playing good. Make a bogey

492
00:26:00,559 --> 00:26:02,519
on a part five and it's unbelievable how they happen.

493
00:26:02,559 --> 00:26:04,640
I mean, it's just it's just it just happens. I mean,

494
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:08,240
it's unbelievable, like I'll I'll hit two good shots and

495
00:26:08,279 --> 00:26:10,519
then you know four pot or just do something so

496
00:26:10,799 --> 00:26:14,839
stupid and or lay up and you know, hit a

497
00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,039
bad ways and before you know it, it's bogie and

498
00:26:17,039 --> 00:26:20,359
it's like, oh my god, I can't believe I'm doing this.

499
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:22,799
But I don't know what it is. I might slip

500
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:24,640
up a little on my focus on because I think

501
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:28,839
it's just gonna be an easy birdie, but it is.

502
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,119
It's annoying to play as bad.

503
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:33,519
Speaker 1: Are you better at your first part or your second putt?

504
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:42,319
Speaker 6: That's a good questions, thank you. I don't know. I

505
00:26:42,319 --> 00:26:45,240
don't know. I mean hopefully I don't have too many

506
00:26:45,279 --> 00:26:46,079
second parts like.

507
00:26:46,039 --> 00:26:47,519
Speaker 1: The one right exactly.

508
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:51,960
Speaker 6: It's just it's hard, man, because the Greens that the normal,

509
00:26:52,039 --> 00:26:56,400
you know, the general public play missing a short part,

510
00:26:56,519 --> 00:26:58,480
you never have to worry about the next one. But

511
00:26:58,599 --> 00:27:00,960
out here it's like you missed a three footer and

512
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:02,559
then next thing you know, you have a four footer

513
00:27:02,599 --> 00:27:04,599
and you just missed the three footer and it's like,

514
00:27:05,079 --> 00:27:08,200
oh my god. I mean, I just hope this goes in.

515
00:27:08,319 --> 00:27:11,400
I'm definitely not like that out there, right, and it's

516
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:15,559
not nerves. It's just it's just some days it's now

517
00:27:15,599 --> 00:27:18,000
your day and the ball has done go in the hole.

518
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 1: Well, you know, overall birdie average, you're ranked thirteenth, which

519
00:27:23,279 --> 00:27:27,200
is awesome, but I guess that's because of that par

520
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:30,319
four situation of being ranked first. But like I said,

521
00:27:30,319 --> 00:27:34,319
par five and forty third, par three's you're ranked one

522
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:35,400
hundred and sixteenth.

523
00:27:36,519 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's being aggressive. I mean, that's why I play.

524
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:44,720
I mean, I can't play another conservative player. I mean,

525
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,680
it's just not for me. I feel like I'm good

526
00:27:48,799 --> 00:27:51,200
enough to play aggressive, Like I don't need to play,

527
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:54,480
which you might think it's the other way around, but

528
00:27:54,559 --> 00:27:56,839
like I feel like I hit the ball consistent enough

529
00:27:56,839 --> 00:27:59,559
to where I can take better lines and stuff like that.

530
00:28:02,079 --> 00:28:03,759
So maybe next year it'll be a little better. But

531
00:28:03,839 --> 00:28:06,119
those stats, I mean, you can read it into them

532
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:09,839
what you want. Yeah, some of those people out there

533
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,759
punching the and they're volunteering and that's great, but some

534
00:28:12,799 --> 00:28:14,359
of them never play golf before and they get out

535
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:15,920
there and they're just sitting. You know. I'll look up

536
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,279
at the board and they'll say, Matt every has you know,

537
00:28:18,319 --> 00:28:20,559
eight feet seven inches for par and I've got like

538
00:28:20,599 --> 00:28:22,400
a four footer for par I was like, this is

539
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:24,799
an eight feet seven inches. You know what are you

540
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541
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Speaker 1: I find it fascinating a part four you obviously you

589
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:15,720
want to be better at Part four is than Part

590
00:31:15,759 --> 00:31:19,480
three and part five because there's so much more yeah them, yeah, yeah, yeah,

591
00:31:20,079 --> 00:31:26,119
being overly aggressive. But you're where is another stat here?

592
00:31:26,119 --> 00:31:29,160
I found so interesting about your game here it is

593
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:33,039
your greens in percent, your greens and regulation. You are

594
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:36,359
amazing from one hundred and seventy five to two hundred

595
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:41,440
yards your fourth ranking. That's good, right, But your short game.

596
00:31:44,119 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean it's just you know, if you look

597
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,519
at everybody's stats, there's always going to be a weakness. Yeah,

598
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:52,720
that's my week. That's just what if you're good, if

599
00:31:52,759 --> 00:31:55,799
you're good in another area, it's usually you're not going

600
00:31:55,839 --> 00:31:59,079
to be good. Like like the best cutters in the world,

601
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,079
they're not they're I mean if they were the best

602
00:32:02,119 --> 00:32:04,519
ball strikers too, then they're then their top five in

603
00:32:04,559 --> 00:32:06,039
the world. I mean, it's just the way it is.

604
00:32:06,039 --> 00:32:08,920
They Usually good putters do not hit up very well

605
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:10,799
and they have to fuck it or else they want

606
00:32:10,839 --> 00:32:11,920
with job, you know what I mean?

607
00:32:12,519 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm are you uh? Are you someone who like

608
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:20,920
has the same petter that you've had since you were

609
00:32:21,079 --> 00:32:21,759
nine years old?

610
00:32:21,799 --> 00:32:24,519
Speaker 6: Or do you go through now I'm all over the

611
00:32:24,519 --> 00:32:29,000
place some of the I'm I had six top tens

612
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,440
this year and i'll six So money is different putter.

613
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, And do you spend a lot of time practicing

614
00:32:35,079 --> 00:32:37,640
with each one or what makes you decide Yeah, I'm

615
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:38,640
done with this. This sucks.

616
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:42,559
Speaker 6: Well. Every week they have reps, you know, like all

617
00:32:42,599 --> 00:32:44,880
the big companies come out instead of stop bag on

618
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,279
the putting green at THEVD and the blue putters in there,

619
00:32:47,319 --> 00:32:49,640
And if I'm not feeling it with the one I'm using,

620
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:51,200
I'll just walk up and grab one it. If it

621
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:52,200
looks good, I'll go with it.

622
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 1: H And So it's none of that's in your head.

623
00:32:56,480 --> 00:33:00,359
You're just I mean, what you'd like. It's it's this

624
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:01,759
putter's fault. It's not me.

625
00:33:02,799 --> 00:33:04,759
Speaker 6: Huh nah, I'm not like that.

626
00:33:06,359 --> 00:33:08,599
Speaker 1: You take full responsibility.

627
00:33:09,119 --> 00:33:10,119
Speaker 6: Yeah, usually I do.

628
00:33:10,279 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 1: Yeah? Do you so if you're hitting, I mean you're

629
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:17,799
obviously hitting much farther than most amateurs. When you're hitting

630
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,400
pitching wedge one hundred and thirty five yards? Do you

631
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,440
use your lob wedge much? Do you use a sixty

632
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:24,839
degree club very much? Oh?

633
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:30,279
Speaker 6: Yeah? Around the grands all the time? Use I use

634
00:33:30,319 --> 00:33:31,640
it a lot. Yeah, eighty yards and.

635
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 1: Then eighty yards and in en So what do you

636
00:33:33,759 --> 00:33:37,599
do for Do you strategically position yourself so you don't

637
00:33:37,599 --> 00:33:40,920
have shots inside of eighty yards or do it's like

638
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:41,480
you just hit.

639
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,519
Speaker 6: It as pin because that's like the widest part of

640
00:33:43,519 --> 00:33:45,519
the fairway or where the pen is and stuff like that.

641
00:33:45,559 --> 00:33:47,279
But I'm not I don't have like a bread and

642
00:33:47,359 --> 00:33:51,079
butter yardage. I mean it's it's, uh, it is nicer

643
00:33:51,119 --> 00:33:54,519
to have a fuller shot, but I feel like I'm

644
00:33:54,559 --> 00:33:58,359
good enough to wear fifty to one hundred yards really

645
00:33:58,400 --> 00:33:59,920
doesn't matter. I mean, I would like to be fit,

646
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:05,319
you know, I mean, because it's closer. Again, it's it's

647
00:34:05,359 --> 00:34:07,920
it depends up front and it's hard greens, and I

648
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:09,440
don't want to be at fifty because I can't get

649
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:10,079
any spin on it.

650
00:34:11,039 --> 00:34:15,400
Speaker 1: Oh interesting, yeah, and and do you feel like, uh,

651
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,280
you put me within you know, one hundred yards, it's

652
00:34:18,639 --> 00:34:19,840
two shots to get in the cup?

653
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:24,639
Speaker 6: Are yeah? Yeah, I mean ultimately that's what you want

654
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:26,400
on that conditions. Yeah, I mean I want to get

655
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,039
up and down in all the time.

656
00:34:29,559 --> 00:34:32,639
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, up and down from that point, I mean

657
00:34:32,639 --> 00:34:37,000
that that would be the ultimate goal here. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

658
00:34:37,039 --> 00:34:40,079
but you need some work on that. Not that I'm

659
00:34:40,119 --> 00:34:43,880
head coach or anything. I'm just looking at these random statistics,

660
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:48,920
which yeah, yeah, right, exactly, stop looking at the stats.

661
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:53,159
Talk about what clubs you carry? How many wedges do

662
00:34:53,199 --> 00:34:57,320
you carry? And strangely enough, I am finding this interesting.

663
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,559
Speaker 6: I don't actually care wedges.

664
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:01,599
Speaker 1: You do care.

665
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:07,840
Speaker 6: Sixty actually, I think there's sixty to fifty six, fifty two,

666
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:09,960
and then it goes into Pitcheon wags, which is like

667
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,400
forty seven that's and that runs into I can play

668
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:16,440
Cleveland wedges and the bridget irons and the and then

669
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:21,960
I go wedge through three and then a three driver hybrids.

670
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 1: No hybrids left from why.

671
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 6: I just I feel like I swing too hard or

672
00:35:30,159 --> 00:35:33,840
I have too much club head speed to for sweepers.

673
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:38,199
And I don't know. I would rather the the RNA

674
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:41,239
and the USCA band hybrids than belly potter. I think

675
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:46,159
the hybrids do way more for uh an inferior golfer.

676
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:48,519
Speaker 1: That's interesting.

677
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,199
Speaker 6: You can hide so much like I mean, some of

678
00:35:51,199 --> 00:35:53,440
guys out they don't even have flyings in their backs.

679
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:57,440
They're using like you know, the seven hybrid or stuff

680
00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:00,519
like that. It's and yellow golf balls. It's kind of

681
00:36:00,519 --> 00:36:02,519
an embarrassed things like did you're on the PGA tour

682
00:36:02,639 --> 00:36:05,719
you got four irons in your bag and you're playing

683
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:06,639
a yellow golf ball.

684
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:15,199
Speaker 1: Don't don't do that? Are you playing? Are you? Do

685
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:18,559
you change your clubs like you change your buttters?

686
00:36:19,079 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 6: No, I have the same irons. I mean they have

687
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:27,480
to make me change irons like bridge Stone, you know

688
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:30,599
both send me the same senior iron just in your head,

689
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,920
just a new head because I like it so much.

690
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:38,000
And then the ball only change ball when they change ball.

691
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:39,639
When they come out the new ball, I'll play it.

692
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:44,079
But the sneaky with golf Ball company.

693
00:36:45,559 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 1: Do you coach at all?

694
00:36:47,639 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 6: No? I mean I would be a horrible coach. What

695
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,519
I think I would be a good coach for a good,

696
00:36:57,039 --> 00:36:59,960
good player. But it was like a fifteen handicap coming

697
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:03,840
to me. I don't think I would do. I don't

698
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:05,440
think i'd be that good just because I mean I

699
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,760
never see it. You know, like I could see what's

700
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:12,360
wrong in a golf swing if it's fluid, and you know,

701
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,039
I could be able to tell, like, this is what

702
00:37:15,079 --> 00:37:17,639
he's doing, because I probably have some of the same problems.

703
00:37:17,679 --> 00:37:20,400
But in like an ayit or like a guy who

704
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:22,519
just starts off, or like you know, fifteen any tap,

705
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:24,920
there's so much going on. It's like where do you start?

706
00:37:25,079 --> 00:37:31,639
Speaker 1: You know, right right? And where would you when in

707
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:35,519
correcting your instead of watching somebody else, do you look

708
00:37:35,559 --> 00:37:36,920
at video of yourself?

709
00:37:37,159 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 2: Do?

710
00:37:37,519 --> 00:37:39,800
Speaker 1: How do you determine what's working what's not working for

711
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:40,719
you at any given time?

712
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,360
Speaker 6: You just know, you can tell through the ball if

713
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:48,360
everything's moving together. You know, usually if it's not, something

714
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:53,000
stops and contacts off a little bit. I know when

715
00:37:53,039 --> 00:37:57,840
I'm my body is moving right, and then I don't know.

716
00:37:58,320 --> 00:37:59,559
I mean, you just know.

717
00:38:01,159 --> 00:38:06,280
Speaker 1: If you could hit one more birdy a week, what

718
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:08,159
would that do to your game? Your life?

719
00:38:09,639 --> 00:38:11,679
Speaker 6: How that one shot better a week?

720
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 3: Yeah?

721
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 6: I mean it would It would be great. I mean really,

722
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,559
that's what that's what we all strive to do, though,

723
00:38:17,639 --> 00:38:20,000
is just one better week. I mean, it doesn't matter

724
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:21,719
if it's on the last hole or the third hole

725
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:23,800
of the tournament. You know, it's just every shot out

726
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:26,239
there it's huge. I have a sarcastic thing I like

727
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:29,199
to say when a uh, you know, I miss so

728
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:32,119
short punt. It's just one shot, you know, But it's

729
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:34,360
one shot is so big, you know, but you're just

730
00:38:34,639 --> 00:38:37,079
you know, just a shot, you know, like it was huge.

731
00:38:37,199 --> 00:38:41,239
Speaker 1: I mean it's a shot, yeah, yeah, but one shot

732
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:45,480
can really it could be everything. And financially it could

733
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:47,199
be everything for you. I mean it could make yeah,

734
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:47,559
but I.

735
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:50,400
Speaker 6: Mean for the tournament it could be everything too. I mean, now,

736
00:38:50,559 --> 00:38:53,440
like you know, if you have a five footer downhill

737
00:38:53,599 --> 00:38:56,239
and the difference between you making it and then you

738
00:38:56,360 --> 00:39:00,119
three putting is I mean, it's like, if you make

739
00:39:00,159 --> 00:39:03,639
that part, it's a momentum keeper. You know, your round

740
00:39:03,679 --> 00:39:05,400
is still on track. If you miss and you got

741
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:07,199
five feet coming back and you miss that, it's like,

742
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:09,599
oh my god, I just threw it two shots like

743
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,239
this is this is It's not the end of the world.

744
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:16,159
But this sucks, you know, mm hmm, yeah it does.

745
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:20,400
Speaker 1: And and then you know, you start. Do you put

746
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:22,679
a lot of pressure on yourself? Are you the kind

747
00:39:22,679 --> 00:39:25,800
of person that beats yourself up if you're not playing

748
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:27,000
to your own potential?

749
00:39:31,639 --> 00:39:36,599
Speaker 6: Man? I mean kind of both. I do get mad

750
00:39:36,639 --> 00:39:39,159
at myself when I don't play to my potential, but

751
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:43,480
I wouldn't say i'd beat myself up. I mean, I

752
00:39:43,519 --> 00:39:47,039
am very critical of my game. I know where's and

753
00:39:47,079 --> 00:39:48,760
like I said, you know, if you lie to yourself,

754
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:49,280
you're an idiot.

755
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:49,519
Speaker 7: I know.

756
00:39:49,559 --> 00:39:53,840
Speaker 6: I know when it's good and when it's not good.

757
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:59,440
And that's a tough question.

758
00:40:00,559 --> 00:40:03,159
Speaker 1: I like this as long as I'm asking him, not

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Speaker 1: Can we spend another minute talking about Alpha Brain and

788
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:47,920
what it's done for your game? And well, you know

789
00:41:48,119 --> 00:41:51,079
you've admitted having add I'm curious of what it's also

790
00:41:51,119 --> 00:41:53,159
done for your life and in addition to what it's

791
00:41:53,159 --> 00:41:53,840
done for your game.

792
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 6: Well, it's been huge. Like I said, let's start taking

793
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:01,199
it in January. The best year of my life, Like

794
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:03,519
not even close, I mean the best year of my life.

795
00:42:04,079 --> 00:42:06,719
Speaker 1: Are you really you feel that that's a contributing factor.

796
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 6: I definitely feel like it is. I mean, I'm just

797
00:42:13,159 --> 00:42:16,360
I'm just a better person on it. I stopped taking

798
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:22,000
adderall because it was a instead I mean and right, yeah,

799
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:23,559
it's it's banned. I mean you can get it to

800
00:42:23,639 --> 00:42:26,039
you for it, but there's a big process you have

801
00:42:26,159 --> 00:42:28,800
to go through and uh and you know it's not

802
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,400
good for your body, and uh, well it's interesting.

803
00:42:31,079 --> 00:42:34,559
Speaker 1: Because adderall you've probably had that because you were diagnosed

804
00:42:34,599 --> 00:42:37,039
as a kid. You've probably been on adderall for or

805
00:42:37,079 --> 00:42:38,719
even riddling for quite a while.

806
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 6: Yeah. Well no I was on it. No, actually I wasn't.

807
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:48,440
I got diagnosed. I was out of college four Yeah,

808
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:52,559
I was on it for about a year and stop

809
00:42:52,639 --> 00:42:55,000
taking it. And they wanted me to try this product

810
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:58,559
culture Terra. And because it wasn't an infront of me

811
00:42:58,599 --> 00:43:00,760
and it wasn't on the band such as us and

812
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:02,639
I tried it and I hated it, and just one

813
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:05,360
for me and my head eggs on it. And you said,

814
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:08,719
this stuff is on the day. It's all natural and

815
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:09,280
it's awesome.

816
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 1: Man.

817
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:13,760
Speaker 6: You feel great. You mean, you feel clean and crisp

818
00:43:14,039 --> 00:43:17,280
and and going to I'm telling you that you're not tired,

819
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:19,599
but when you want to go to sleep, your body

820
00:43:19,679 --> 00:43:22,079
is so clean, and you're like, I can't wait to sleep.

821
00:43:22,199 --> 00:43:24,079
Like I'm not tired, but I can't wait to sleep.

822
00:43:24,119 --> 00:43:26,320
And that's for me. That's a really cool part of

823
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:27,840
it that some people don't know.

824
00:43:29,119 --> 00:43:32,039
Speaker 1: Well, what about like life on the tour. You've got

825
00:43:32,079 --> 00:43:36,480
to you've got to adjust on your sleeping conditions. You've

826
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:39,320
got to adjust on your eating conditions. You you know,

827
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:42,320
on the amount of social time that you have when

828
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:45,840
you're on tour. All those things can definitely have a

829
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:50,960
negative impact on your play. Oh you know four days

830
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:52,480
in a row over a weekend.

831
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, if you eat that during the week, you know

832
00:43:55,639 --> 00:43:57,920
it on about Friday or Saturday. I mean, you feel

833
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:02,000
like crafts. So putting things in your body is a

834
00:44:02,079 --> 00:44:03,199
huge part of it out there.

835
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:06,800
Speaker 1: And uh, and you're you're thinking Alpha brain right now

836
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:09,360
is one of those things. I love that.

837
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:11,679
Speaker 6: And the new hemp protein.

838
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:14,880
Speaker 1: Too, Okay, awesome, that stuff is awesome.

839
00:44:15,199 --> 00:44:20,800
Speaker 6: I've sampled numerous hemp proteins and they've all tasted like

840
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:24,480
they found and uh, this one tastes. It's the best

841
00:44:24,519 --> 00:44:26,199
taste of the one I've tried so far, and it's

842
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:27,239
it's good for you too.

843
00:44:27,559 --> 00:44:28,039
Speaker 1: Awesome.

844
00:44:28,519 --> 00:44:29,280
Speaker 2: So yeah.

845
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:32,360
Speaker 1: In the literature on Alpha Brain they talk about the

846
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:35,320
natural ingredients and one of them a C eleven rain

847
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:39,280
forest supererb. I like that. I don't know what it means,

848
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:45,599
but I like it. Yeah, no, powerful DNA repair any occidant.

849
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:47,320
And then there's the one I have to try to

850
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:50,320
learn how to pronounce this powerful DNA repair any occidant.

851
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:55,559
Uh phosphid titles serene and I hope that's pronounced. But

852
00:44:55,639 --> 00:44:59,679
there's a long list of these natural ingredients that make

853
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:05,320
up what is a really, really impressive product for golfers,

854
00:45:06,119 --> 00:45:08,480
and it's just being discovered by golfers. You're one of

855
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:12,000
the first guys on the tour to be using Alpha Brain.

856
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:15,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, actually they are one of their friends, the

857
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:18,159
guys who make it. His name is Dusting Garza and

858
00:45:18,159 --> 00:45:20,559
he he's the golfers on the toys right now trying

859
00:45:20,559 --> 00:45:24,239
to make it up. And he he introduced me to them,

860
00:45:24,559 --> 00:45:27,840
and I know that I know the guys and I

861
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:30,599
trust their research. Like, I don't know what these these

862
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:34,280
ingredients you're saying do, but they work for me. Man,

863
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:35,000
I'm telling you.

864
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:38,559
Speaker 1: That's all you need to know, right yeah.

865
00:45:38,639 --> 00:45:41,679
Speaker 6: Oh, And it is kind of new to the golfing community,

866
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:44,480
but it's getting out there. I've had and I've had

867
00:45:44,599 --> 00:45:46,559
on it on my bag for almost the whole year.

868
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:49,559
And I had Dean Wilson the other day come to

869
00:45:49,599 --> 00:45:51,880
me and he listens to Joe Rogan podcast and he

870
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:54,639
is like, you, I heard you take on it. You know,

871
00:45:55,039 --> 00:45:56,719
how is that stuff I've been taking. I just started

872
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:59,800
taking the Alpha Brain and uh, you know Jim Jim

873
00:46:00,119 --> 00:46:02,599
uh and swears by it and blah blah blah. And

874
00:46:02,639 --> 00:46:04,760
I was like, yeah, man, that's awesome. And so, you know,

875
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:06,960
guys are slowly starting to hear about it, but you're

876
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:09,360
going to be hearing about it a lot here in

877
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:12,280
the next year. It's going to make a difference.

878
00:46:12,679 --> 00:46:14,360
Speaker 1: Well. One of the things they say about it, and

879
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:16,159
I was having a conversation with my friend about this.

880
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:19,800
It says, enhance your synaptic plasticity. And I'm looking at

881
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:23,559
him like what what does that mean? But he was like, oh,

882
00:46:23,599 --> 00:46:27,320
you're kidding. Synaptic plasticity, dude, are you You're not on that.

883
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:30,760
I'm like, what are you talking about? And basically, in

884
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:36,119
relation to golf, it's how you can you can have

885
00:46:36,159 --> 00:46:39,199
your thoughts be reshaped, meaning like you come up to

886
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:41,079
that shot that always scares the crap out of you,

887
00:46:41,159 --> 00:46:42,480
or you always hit it in the water, you always

888
00:46:42,519 --> 00:46:44,280
hit in the bunker type of thing. It's like, oh no,

889
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:46,400
not this shot again. But this is the kind of

890
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:48,880
herb that helps you go, I can get past this.

891
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:50,920
This is not going to be a problem for me

892
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:54,400
this time. And you can create your thoughts and change

893
00:46:54,440 --> 00:47:00,159
your thoughts, but this enhances it and enforces it. That's

894
00:47:00,199 --> 00:47:04,119
like that alone for any golfer would be an amazing

895
00:47:04,159 --> 00:47:07,239
product to give a try. Right. Raisor focus they say,

896
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:08,639
and mental drive.

897
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:13,239
Speaker 6: Yeah, chierge and it's not that expensive and it's it's

898
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:15,079
worth every penny. Yeah.

899
00:47:15,119 --> 00:47:18,599
Speaker 1: And for Golf Smarter listeners, when you click on the

900
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00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:26,519
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903
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904
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bottle and Matt you were talking about, the ninety count

905
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bottle does not last all that long.

906
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:42,199
Speaker 6: For you, Yeah, just under a month.

907
00:47:42,599 --> 00:47:44,719
Speaker 1: If you buy that ninety count bottle, you'll also receive

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909
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910
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911
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913
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the ninety count out, get the golf towel on the tees,

914
00:48:03,199 --> 00:48:07,079
but definitely try it out. I mean, we've talked to Matt,

915
00:48:07,119 --> 00:48:10,039
We've learned a lot about his game, and you've heard

916
00:48:10,119 --> 00:48:13,800
him talk about this stuff. It's not so much and

917
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:15,280
this is what I love about it. It's not so much

918
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:18,480
they're paying you to do this. You're doing this because

919
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:21,320
you believe in this product and it's helped here. You

920
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:23,119
are you saying the best year of your career?

921
00:48:24,039 --> 00:48:26,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, well by far, it's not. It's literally I think

922
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:29,480
I made five hundred thousand two years ago, went on

923
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:31,599
the tour and I made two million this year in

924
00:48:31,679 --> 00:48:34,760
I took two months off I was born, so full year.

925
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:40,679
Speaker 1: Wow. I guess that anybody would like to take their

926
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:43,719
the salary increase from fifty thousand to two million in one.

927
00:48:43,639 --> 00:48:46,239
Speaker 6: Year, not bad.

928
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:49,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, five hundred thousand even still five hundred thousand. That's

929
00:48:49,119 --> 00:48:52,920
still four times, four times as much. And I'm sure

930
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:54,679
that you didn't well having a kid, but you still

931
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:58,719
didn't increase your your your expenses by four times. So

932
00:48:59,119 --> 00:48:59,880
that's got to help.

933
00:49:00,599 --> 00:49:01,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's awesome.

934
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:05,519
Speaker 1: So one last question, I'm curious when you were coming,

935
00:49:05,559 --> 00:49:07,119
when you're going through college and you were having a

936
00:49:07,159 --> 00:49:10,320
successful college career and you were named College Amateur of

937
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:13,800
the Year, getting the Ben Hogan Award, were you did

938
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:16,480
you have a major other than golf in college?

939
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:18,599
Speaker 3: Yeah?

940
00:49:18,639 --> 00:49:23,440
Speaker 6: I mean it was, uh what was it called? I

941
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:27,239
think it was called commercial recreation. It was I thought

942
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:28,679
it was the first stay. I went in there, and

943
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:32,000
you have to decide, you know, like even your counselor like,

944
00:49:32,039 --> 00:49:33,320
all right, what are you goingly a major to be?

945
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:36,639
I'm like, whatever has the least amount of math in it. So, uh,

946
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:38,639
that's what it was, And so I did it. And

947
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:43,400
for I was like twelve credit hour short, but you

948
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:47,119
know I was that meant six more months in school,

949
00:49:47,159 --> 00:49:48,400
and I was the best player, was one of the

950
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:50,559
best players coming out of college, and it just it

951
00:49:50,599 --> 00:49:52,639
wasn't hard for me to go back. I just went

952
00:49:52,639 --> 00:49:53,280
out and played.

953
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:57,559
Speaker 1: Did you graduate twelve hour short?

954
00:49:57,880 --> 00:49:58,519
Speaker 6: Four years there?

955
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:01,440
Speaker 1: H Do you ever? I mean, is there a plan

956
00:50:01,559 --> 00:50:04,079
B for you once your golf career is over? Or

957
00:50:04,079 --> 00:50:05,199
do you hope that there is no plan?

958
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 6: I don't plan on it. I mean, I'm sure if

959
00:50:08,039 --> 00:50:11,400
someone or something, but I always that's funny you said that.

960
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:14,039
I always, uh, like in high school when they'd have

961
00:50:14,079 --> 00:50:17,199
these people come talk, you know, in thesemblies, people come

962
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:19,280
talk to you and they'd be an athlete or something

963
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:22,960
like okay, well you know, only like you know, point

964
00:50:23,079 --> 00:50:25,960
zero something percent of you will make it to play

965
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:30,159
pro sports and get a backup plan on like such bs.

966
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:33,000
I mean, if you if you only have a backup

967
00:50:33,039 --> 00:50:35,039
plan in your mind, that's probably where you're gonna.

968
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:35,360
Speaker 7: End up doing.

969
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 6: You know, so I never had a backup plan. Like

970
00:50:39,519 --> 00:50:40,880
I couldn't even tell you what kind of job I

971
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:44,320
would have got with commercial recreation degree, And I mean

972
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:47,840
I just it was all about, as always, I'm gonna

973
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:50,320
be on the PGA tour, and it's worked out that way, man.

974
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 1: So well, lucky for you. That's great, yeah, because you

975
00:50:54,039 --> 00:50:55,760
know a lot of people have that, especially you know,

976
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:58,039
when you're when you're the stud athlete coming through high

977
00:50:58,039 --> 00:51:00,880
school in the college and thinking I'm you know, and

978
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:03,679
then oh my gosh, people get injured. Oh my gosh,

979
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:06,920
you really aren't that good. So to have that in

980
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:09,719
your mind, and there's a lot of kids who are

981
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:12,119
incredibly confident. I'm not gonna use the word cocky, but

982
00:51:12,159 --> 00:51:14,320
there are a lot of kids who are incredibly confident

983
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:18,079
about their abilities until they're faced with the reality of

984
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:23,440
lou Gee, I guess I'm just kind of okay, especially

985
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:26,199
when you get to a professional level, so like like here,

986
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:29,440
so you you get all this attention, you get Amateur

987
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:31,960
Player of the Year, you get All American, you get

988
00:51:32,039 --> 00:51:37,960
SEC conference titles and all all this stuff. Even then

989
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:40,440
you come out on your rookie year and you get

990
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:42,519
Rookie of the Year whether you know it or not,

991
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:48,960
and you get you know, there's articles written about you,

992
00:51:49,159 --> 00:51:53,199
and you're interviewed on TV, and now all of a

993
00:51:53,199 --> 00:51:56,840
sudden you're in your second third, fourth year, you're a journeyman,

994
00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:01,000
and you're not getting that kind of attention. You know,

995
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:09,320
you're on a podcast. But I mean, it's has it

996
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:11,960
slowed down for you in the sense of okay, I

997
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:13,400
am a professional golfer, now what.

998
00:52:15,199 --> 00:52:17,360
Speaker 6: Or well it's I mean, you can make it slow

999
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:19,239
down and you can make it go faster. I mean,

1000
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:25,280
I'm I would say, like my physically, I've spent. I've spent.

1001
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:29,559
I'm always going to be fast, like my swaying, the

1002
00:52:29,559 --> 00:52:31,400
way I walk, you know, just everything about me on

1003
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:36,119
the outside, but on the inside, I try and like

1004
00:52:36,199 --> 00:52:38,239
I don't, I don't. I try to make things not

1005
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:41,400
difficult for me, Like I don't have Uh, I'm not

1006
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:44,599
a big social media guy. I'm not on Facebook. I'm

1007
00:52:44,639 --> 00:52:47,679
on Twitter, but it's it's a new thing for me.

1008
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:53,079
But I just I don't it's not Uh. Some guys

1009
00:52:53,119 --> 00:52:56,960
get get high off of, you know, having social media

1010
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:59,199
and Twitter and stuff like that, and it's just not.

1011
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:01,079
It's not for me some other kind of person I am.

1012
00:53:01,159 --> 00:53:03,199
So if you want to know something, I'll tell you

1013
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:06,760
that it's not. I mean, I'm not going to like voluntar,

1014
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:09,239
you know what, I mean it's just oh yeah, I

1015
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:10,679
like to live my life, you know.

1016
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:14,000
Speaker 1: And and you're going to continue to do that and

1017
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:16,719
live your life with your wife and your child and

1018
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:17,519
and maybe.

1019
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:20,199
Speaker 6: More attention the tension. I don't need the attention that

1020
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:22,199
I got when I got into college. And it's not

1021
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:24,800
like it made me a better person. I mean, it's

1022
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:27,079
just I know it's important. I know what is important

1023
00:53:27,159 --> 00:53:30,559
right now, and it's not creating attention for myself.

1024
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:34,559
Speaker 1: Yeah right, it's just focusing on your game, focusing on

1025
00:53:34,599 --> 00:53:38,400
what you need to improve on. H Well, listen, you know, uh,

1026
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:40,960
in setting up this interview with you, I had to

1027
00:53:41,039 --> 00:53:42,679
not only talk to the folks that on it Labs

1028
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:45,719
who helped us get this together, but we had to

1029
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:50,360
you know, talk to your agents and just to let

1030
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:53,000
you know. You may not know it, but there is

1031
00:53:53,159 --> 00:53:55,639
a Matt every Facebook page.

1032
00:53:57,199 --> 00:54:00,679
Speaker 6: Well that's nice to me. I uh, somebody the other

1033
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:03,559
day we're hitting balls and he was telling me about

1034
00:54:03,599 --> 00:54:08,920
like Instagram and like, what's that? He told me what

1035
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:12,159
it is and he answer me kind of Facebook And

1036
00:54:12,159 --> 00:54:15,199
I said, no right now, I don't and he's like,

1037
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:17,559
oh no, And I said, because I have like twelve

1038
00:54:17,599 --> 00:54:20,280
real friends not five hundred and fifty fake ones. You

1039
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:24,039
know the way I like it, you know, yeah.

1040
00:54:23,679 --> 00:54:28,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, well listen, we I invite everybody to

1041
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:33,760
follow Matt every very closely on tour because he's going

1042
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:36,559
to continue to climb every year and make more money

1043
00:54:36,679 --> 00:54:40,320
and make more attention for himself. And you can always

1044
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:42,000
talk about the time that you heard him on the

1045
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:45,000
Gulf Smarter podcast. Matt, I really appreciate you giving me

1046
00:54:45,039 --> 00:54:47,639
so much time here, and hopefully we can we can

1047
00:54:47,679 --> 00:54:50,400
talk at the end of seasons or maybe during seasons

1048
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:52,159
and see how you're doing.

1049
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:55,079
Speaker 6: I don't open whatever, man, so I want to have me.

1050
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:56,519
I'd love to come.

1051
00:54:56,360 --> 00:55:10,320
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