1
00:00:01,159 --> 00:00:03,000
Speaker 1: Well, it is my great pleasure to welcome to our

2
00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:06,160
podcast this week all the way from Ria at Saudi Arabia,

3
00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:09,839
where he's preparing for a very significant world Championship bruiserweight

4
00:00:09,919 --> 00:00:13,279
unification fight against Jiberto Zerto Ramirez. It is none other

5
00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:16,079
than Chris billim Smith. Chris, thank you very much for

6
00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:18,199
joining the show today. I'm pleased to talk to you

7
00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:19,879
before this big fight. I have you been doing. How

8
00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:21,120
was re treating you so far?

9
00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:25,359
Speaker 2: Yeah? Thanks having me on the podcast, don Yeah, it's

10
00:00:25,359 --> 00:00:28,079
been good. The hospitality here has been been phenomenal, to

11
00:00:28,079 --> 00:00:32,439
be honest, and we're a nice accommodation and everyone's been

12
00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:33,359
really really helpful.

13
00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:35,520
Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm enjoying it.

14
00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:40,399
Speaker 2: Trained in, trained last night, got good session in last

15
00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:46,079
night and just yeah, figuring the area out obviously, but

16
00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:48,039
most of the time just in the hotel.

17
00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:50,840
Speaker 3: And yeah, it looked off very well. Thank you.

18
00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:53,119
Speaker 1: Well, let the folks know that you and Zerdo are

19
00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:56,759
scheduled to fight this big fight Saturday, Saturday Night here

20
00:00:56,759 --> 00:01:00,600
in the United States, a little bit earlier in in

21
00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:03,799
the UK anyway, to unify the titles taking place in

22
00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:06,079
re Ed. It's the main event of Latino Night the

23
00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:08,120
card the Golden Boys doing. Obviously Chris Bill and Smith

24
00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:10,760
is not Latino, but Zerdo Ramirez is, as are many

25
00:01:10,799 --> 00:01:13,560
of the other boxers on the show. This will be

26
00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:16,040
your first fight outside of your home country of England.

27
00:01:16,079 --> 00:01:18,599
I just wondered what your thoughts were about going to

28
00:01:18,599 --> 00:01:20,719
Saudi Arabia for what it seems to me in terms

29
00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:23,280
of significance anyway, the biggest fight of your career.

30
00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:28,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, it's great. It's an honor in terms of

31
00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:30,159
You've seen the shows that have gone on over here

32
00:01:30,159 --> 00:01:32,959
and who's headlining them and the big names that headline

33
00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:35,840
in them, and now I'm I'm in that position.

34
00:01:35,719 --> 00:01:38,439
Speaker 3: As a headliner fighting in the unification fight.

35
00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:41,439
Speaker 2: So yes, a huge, huge fight in terms of what's

36
00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:42,359
on the line.

37
00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:45,239
Speaker 3: And exciting, you know, the sort of stuff that.

38
00:01:45,519 --> 00:01:47,840
Speaker 2: As an amateur I would have loved to have been

39
00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:51,920
involved in and used to watch and you know, really

40
00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:55,040
admire the people who are in that situation. So the

41
00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:57,480
fact that I'm in that situation now is a great

42
00:01:57,480 --> 00:01:58,000
honor for me.

43
00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:02,000
Speaker 1: Well, one thing that is very obvious is that when

44
00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:06,159
you fight, you've had many fights in your hometown of Bournemouth, England,

45
00:02:06,519 --> 00:02:10,360
and you have such a tremendous support from your fans

46
00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:13,680
from your hometown. That it's like a fortress. You fought

47
00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:15,639
in the stadiums are drawn big crowds and put on

48
00:02:15,719 --> 00:02:19,800
some big performances. Why are they so passionate about you?

49
00:02:19,879 --> 00:02:22,039
Like they turn out Like it's wild to watch your

50
00:02:22,039 --> 00:02:24,960
fights up there and see the crowds the way they are.

51
00:02:26,439 --> 00:02:31,680
Speaker 2: Yes, phenomenal in terms of boxing. It's not exactly a

52
00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:35,719
hotbed my town for boxing. I think the show that

53
00:02:36,159 --> 00:02:39,680
the first Me against Isaac Chamberlain fight was the first

54
00:02:39,759 --> 00:02:43,759
televised TV show ever in Bournemouth, so they all turned

55
00:02:43,759 --> 00:02:45,800
out for that one and then the few after it,

56
00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:48,560
and obviously the stadium fight, which is phenomenal.

57
00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:51,280
Speaker 3: And they're a very community town.

58
00:02:51,319 --> 00:02:53,759
Speaker 2: Obviously the football club have been very good to me

59
00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:56,319
and I've been I used to be a season ticket

60
00:02:56,319 --> 00:02:58,919
older as a child there, so to fight there was

61
00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:04,039
amazing and the fans got obviously, their fans really.

62
00:03:03,759 --> 00:03:06,000
Speaker 3: Took me in. Who you know, a lot of them

63
00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:06,439
are knew.

64
00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:10,439
Speaker 2: Anyway, but they've really helped, you know, build my family

65
00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:13,439
some massive part of that. So yeah, they turned out

66
00:03:13,479 --> 00:03:15,919
and that there are a great set of fans.

67
00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:18,159
Speaker 1: Well hopefully at least some of them will be able

68
00:03:18,159 --> 00:03:19,800
to make the trip to see you fight in Saudi

69
00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:22,919
Arabia where you will be making your third defense and

70
00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:25,280
also trying. Like I said, they unified the titles. You know,

71
00:03:25,319 --> 00:03:27,879
when you follow Kohli for the title, you were the underdog.

72
00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:30,759
A lot of people gave your a mandatory challenger Master

73
00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:32,639
Nek a really good chance to beat you. That night

74
00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:36,879
in your second defense was against Richard aria ka Pore,

75
00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:39,639
who had given you your first loss, your only loss

76
00:03:39,639 --> 00:03:44,639
in twenty nineteen. You beat him to avenge that loss.

77
00:03:44,439 --> 00:03:46,400
That's a pretty damn good run, if you ask me.

78
00:03:46,879 --> 00:03:49,000
And here you are once again going into this fight

79
00:03:50,199 --> 00:03:52,840
as a career long cruiseweight against a guy who's only

80
00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:55,039
had now a few fights in the division, and once

81
00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:57,639
again you're the underdog. And I wonder do you think

82
00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:00,120
to yourself, why do people just just why did they

83
00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:01,639
continue to underrate me?

84
00:04:01,719 --> 00:04:09,560
Speaker 2: Maybe no, I under I understand uh in a way

85
00:04:09,639 --> 00:04:10,240
why they do it.

86
00:04:10,479 --> 00:04:13,439
Speaker 3: I'm not the most.

87
00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:17,240
Speaker 2: Sort of slick boxer, but and a lot of people

88
00:04:17,319 --> 00:04:19,079
underrate me until they get in the ring with me.

89
00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:22,319
In terms of boxers as well, whether that's sparring or fighting,

90
00:04:22,399 --> 00:04:26,199
and so I kind of get it, and it's it's

91
00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:29,319
almost you have to sort of feel it to believe it.

92
00:04:29,319 --> 00:04:32,079
It's one of those with me, I think, and you know,

93
00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:35,000
I'm not a huge talker or anything like that. I

94
00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:37,920
just go about my business and get the job done.

95
00:04:37,959 --> 00:04:41,959
And that's kind of not boxing. Fans like a bit

96
00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:44,120
of trash short they like, they like a lot of

97
00:04:44,959 --> 00:04:48,040
a lot of drama, but that's just not me, so

98
00:04:48,959 --> 00:04:53,040
I say, with my drama for the ring and yeah,

99
00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:57,480
and it's so I kind of I kind of get it.

100
00:04:58,399 --> 00:05:01,879
But and maybe they just not as as knowledgeable as

101
00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:06,199
as my team and I in terms of they can't

102
00:05:06,199 --> 00:05:06,959
see what I do well.

103
00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:08,360
Speaker 3: But like I said, it might be hard to be

104
00:05:08,399 --> 00:05:09,800
able to see it. You have to you have to

105
00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:14,800
feel it. So I understand it, and it's, uh, it's

106
00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:15,639
it's so good with me.

107
00:05:15,759 --> 00:05:18,160
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm an underdog again, and I'll have to

108
00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:19,120
upset the odds again.

109
00:05:19,439 --> 00:05:21,279
Speaker 1: I mean, some guys they got to get offended if

110
00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:24,000
they're underdog continually. You seem to be totally, as you said,

111
00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,800
pretty cool with it. Give you yourself at all. I

112
00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:28,959
think this is sort of the reputation you have among

113
00:05:29,079 --> 00:05:31,680
some people is that while they enjoy watching your fights

114
00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:33,199
and you know, like I said, you've been on a

115
00:05:33,199 --> 00:05:34,759
heck of a run, they kind of look at you

116
00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:36,600
and say, you know, he's a little bit of an overachiever.

117
00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:39,480
Like that, you that they didn't expect the success that

118
00:05:39,519 --> 00:05:42,160
you've had, or maybe you didn't expect the success that

119
00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:42,680
you have had.

120
00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:45,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's weird.

121
00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:47,600
Speaker 2: When I had a conversation the other day with someone

122
00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:52,480
and I said that the I always had in a

123
00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:56,680
belief that I could achieve absolutely anything. And at times,

124
00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:00,000
you know, you you look at you might have tained

125
00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:02,519
as an amateur and lost a fight as an amateur

126
00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:06,000
and thought, maybe I'm not that good, but I kind

127
00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:09,199
of I never thought I wouldn't. I might have thought

128
00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:12,040
I wasn't good enough but good enough then, but I

129
00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:14,639
knew I could get good enough and I can always improve.

130
00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:17,480
Speaker 3: And that's still how I feel now. I feel like

131
00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:19,439
I'm far from the finished article.

132
00:06:19,639 --> 00:06:25,079
Speaker 2: And I think that's that's maybe why people think, you know,

133
00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:29,399
see me as an overachiever, because I just yeah, it's

134
00:06:29,439 --> 00:06:31,040
not nothing was.

135
00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:34,360
Speaker 3: It's just been a slow, slow, gradual building process.

136
00:06:34,399 --> 00:06:37,160
Speaker 1: But nothing nothing given to you, Chris. I mean, you've

137
00:06:37,199 --> 00:06:39,560
had to take on tough guys to get where you are.

138
00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:43,519
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, And I guess that's kind of why the

139
00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:47,720
it's a sense I'd rather be an overachiever than someone

140
00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:51,519
who is at a high level and hasn't boxed anybody,

141
00:06:52,639 --> 00:06:55,519
and kind of everyone's like, well, yeah, but they've they

142
00:06:55,519 --> 00:06:59,480
were this, they were that. But you feel more sense

143
00:06:59,519 --> 00:07:02,480
of achievement when it's more risk. So more risks more

144
00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:06,000
reward than nothing worth having comes easy. So that's kind

145
00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:06,959
of the brutal to take.

146
00:07:07,439 --> 00:07:09,199
Speaker 1: So what I mentioned earlier, you've been a cruiser weight

147
00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:12,800
your entire professional career. He won his first world title

148
00:07:12,839 --> 00:07:16,160
Gilbert or Zerto Vermeraz did at super middleweight. This is

149
00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:18,319
only going to be his third fight in the cruiserweight division.

150
00:07:18,319 --> 00:07:21,120
He's had nearly fifty professional fights. So are you the

151
00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:23,399
bigger man in this fight? Do you have the physical

152
00:07:23,439 --> 00:07:25,000
advantage against zero in this fight?

153
00:07:26,839 --> 00:07:30,639
Speaker 2: Yeah? Absolutely, in terms of strength and and I think

154
00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:34,800
the intensity that I fight at as well. So you

155
00:07:34,839 --> 00:07:37,720
can be big and strong like Goolamerian is these big

156
00:07:37,759 --> 00:07:40,319
and strong and compunch, but he won't fight at the

157
00:07:40,319 --> 00:07:43,160
same speed and intensity that I do. He doesn't do that,

158
00:07:43,319 --> 00:07:48,920
so it's yeah, I think that's not only.

159
00:07:48,759 --> 00:07:50,920
Speaker 3: Is it the size, it's just.

160
00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:54,759
Speaker 2: What I'm able to do with it, and the engine

161
00:07:54,759 --> 00:07:56,360
I have that backs it up as well.

162
00:07:56,839 --> 00:07:59,959
Speaker 1: So what did you think of his performance against against

163
00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:01,759
Marian when he This is when he won the title

164
00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:04,279
back in March, and gil Marian came into the fight

165
00:08:05,199 --> 00:08:07,480
with not a lot of notoriety. A lot of people

166
00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:09,040
at least here in the United States when he fought him,

167
00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:11,720
didn't know him. He had been very very inactive and

168
00:08:11,839 --> 00:08:14,319
uh and zerdo you know, basically beat him very handily

169
00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:17,199
via the scorecard. So what was your perception of the

170
00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:19,800
way he performed and is there anything you take away

171
00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:23,839
from that as you go into the fight against him.

172
00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:25,480
Speaker 3: No, I think it was a really good performance.

173
00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:30,120
Speaker 2: I think he bopped really really well and frustrated Gilomerian.

174
00:08:30,439 --> 00:08:33,279
He never sat there and let Glamiran tea off. Obviously,

175
00:08:33,279 --> 00:08:35,960
he likes to get good pressure and sort of have

176
00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:39,759
a high guard and walk people down, but he he

177
00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:41,879
just didn't allow him to do that. He just picked

178
00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:44,120
him about and landers and good shots. Took some shots

179
00:08:44,159 --> 00:08:45,840
as well, but traded with him at times. Showed a

180
00:08:45,879 --> 00:08:48,519
bit of everything in that fight. So that's why he's

181
00:08:48,519 --> 00:08:50,159
such a great fighter. Because he's not just a one

182
00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:54,080
trick ponies. He can he can really adapt and.

183
00:08:54,039 --> 00:08:55,799
Speaker 3: Do a little bit of everything. He can fight long

184
00:08:55,879 --> 00:08:59,039
and can fight close. So he's he's a really really

185
00:08:59,080 --> 00:08:59,639
good firing.

186
00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:01,360
Speaker 1: And it is a really good when Now he's a

187
00:09:01,399 --> 00:09:03,000
south paw, and I just wonder a lot of guys

188
00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:04,960
they get in the rain, they don't love fighting south paws.

189
00:09:05,039 --> 00:09:07,879
I wonder what's your perception of fighting a left handed fighter?

190
00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:12,000
Speaker 2: Now this is only my proper first left handed by us,

191
00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:16,480
so tell you more on on Sunday. But now I've

192
00:09:16,519 --> 00:09:19,039
inspiring obviously a lot, and I've sparred a few plenty

193
00:09:19,039 --> 00:09:24,919
in the past. Yeah, there's things that that are more difficult,

194
00:09:26,039 --> 00:09:28,000
but there's some things that are a lot easier as well,

195
00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:30,759
in certain shots which are a lot easier, And I

196
00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:33,320
don't mind it. It's just part of the part of

197
00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:36,919
the process. Is it's not as black and white as

198
00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:40,240
just southpawn orthodox is. Every style of orthodox is different.

199
00:09:40,279 --> 00:09:43,360
You have a come forward fighter who is a power punch,

200
00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:45,720
or you have someone who moves lots and lets the

201
00:09:45,799 --> 00:09:48,399
hands go at long range and there's really fast or

202
00:09:49,039 --> 00:09:51,320
you know, everyone has different acts. Use every style is

203
00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:54,080
different and I think that's just the different with.

204
00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:55,679
Speaker 3: A south poor. Yeah, they're the other way around. You

205
00:09:55,799 --> 00:09:58,279
just got to adapt like you would with any other opponent.

206
00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:02,879
Speaker 1: Now, before you, guys, this matchup Jai Opataia, who was

207
00:10:02,919 --> 00:10:05,360
the IBF champion, the lineal champion, and the guy that

208
00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:07,840
most people consider number one in the weight class at

209
00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:10,080
the moment. Anyway, he was calling you out. This goes

210
00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:11,639
back to July said he was going to give you

211
00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:14,399
money out of his purse to help make the fight

212
00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:17,320
if that was what was necessary. Obviously didn't end up happening.

213
00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:20,080
You guys made the fight between yourself and Zerto. But

214
00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:23,519
when you heard Opataia calling you out, what was your

215
00:10:23,519 --> 00:10:25,720
interest level? What were your thoughts about that?

216
00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:28,759
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, I was interesting in the fight.

217
00:10:28,799 --> 00:10:32,440
Speaker 2: I just I was away in California for three weeks

218
00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:35,919
in August and then wasn't getting back in the gym

219
00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:39,159
until sort of last week in August, so I would

220
00:10:39,159 --> 00:10:41,360
have had like six weeks of full training for that

221
00:10:41,399 --> 00:10:46,240
fight before going into fight weeks. So it wouldn't matter

222
00:10:46,279 --> 00:10:51,399
if it's Jipataia, Zenda Ramirez, or my very or my debut.

223
00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:55,919
I would always prepare diligently and meticulously for anyone. So

224
00:10:56,840 --> 00:10:59,519
I said, well, I'll fight him, but I'll fight him

225
00:10:59,519 --> 00:11:03,320
in November or December. That's when I'm going to be ready. Obviously,

226
00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:06,320
this fight is now happening mid mid November. It could

227
00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:08,360
have been him, but he wanted to fight in October,

228
00:11:08,399 --> 00:11:10,480
which is fair enough. He doesn't have to wait around

229
00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:13,399
for me. Anything could have happened with me, injury, et cetera.

230
00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:15,960
Speaker 3: So he had his.

231
00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:18,320
Speaker 2: Dating in mind, and yeah, I think they made the

232
00:11:18,399 --> 00:11:21,879
dates just didn't match. And yeah, that is great because

233
00:11:21,879 --> 00:11:22,279
that fight is.

234
00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:24,600
Speaker 3: Getting built, you know, built up in the background.

235
00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:28,279
Speaker 2: Obviously for me, all eyes are on Saturday night and

236
00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:33,559
doing a good job. But because of that, there's that

237
00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:35,960
that's motivation in the background for this fight.

238
00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:37,600
Speaker 3: When that's the fight.

239
00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:39,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is a big fight if it happens, whoever

240
00:11:39,919 --> 00:11:41,519
is the winner on Saturday. But I wonder when you

241
00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:44,200
guys made the fight between yourself and Zertle. Was it

242
00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:46,200
your team that was looking to get him in the

243
00:11:46,279 --> 00:11:49,000
ring and and and your side calling, you know, up

244
00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:50,519
Golden boy and trying to make the match or were

245
00:11:50,519 --> 00:11:52,360
they coming to get you to see if you'd be

246
00:11:52,399 --> 00:11:53,120
interested to fight him?

247
00:11:53,159 --> 00:11:53,399
Speaker 3: Had that?

248
00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:54,240
Speaker 1: How did it all go down?

249
00:11:57,799 --> 00:11:59,919
Speaker 3: I'm I'm I think it was a mixture.

250
00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:02,360
Speaker 2: To be honest, I think I don't get really involved

251
00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:05,559
in negotiations and stuff. It's if they'll give me a

252
00:12:05,639 --> 00:12:08,559
date and an opponent and a date, and I'll say

253
00:12:08,639 --> 00:12:15,879
yes and that that that's that really and they they yeah,

254
00:12:15,919 --> 00:12:19,600
and obviously the deal, the deal got done, and yeah.

255
00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:21,120
Speaker 3: I don't get too much involved in that.

256
00:12:21,159 --> 00:12:24,320
Speaker 2: I just focus on improving myself and then that's why

257
00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:26,919
I have a really good management team around me. Mcgwiggan

258
00:12:27,039 --> 00:12:30,000
family have been in the game a long time and

259
00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:33,159
they know it inside out. So they've done a great

260
00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:37,519
job with everyone they work with. So it's I let

261
00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:39,559
them do what they're good at and stick to what

262
00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:40,799
I'm good at, and that's fighting.

263
00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:41,320
Speaker 3: Well.

264
00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:44,039
Speaker 1: I have known Barry mcgigan for probably about twenty five years, Chris,

265
00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:46,919
and he's was a great fighter and I've always enjoyed him.

266
00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:49,440
You mentioned about, you know, you have a tough fight

267
00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:50,960
in front of you, but you mentioned about that fight

268
00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:54,360
being built up maybe between yourself and Obataya. He's also

269
00:12:54,399 --> 00:12:56,879
been fighting in Saudi Arabia. This fight for you and

270
00:12:56,960 --> 00:13:00,120
Zerda is in Saudi Arabia, so I guess you you

271
00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:02,639
would say that that that's the fight you want if

272
00:13:02,639 --> 00:13:05,080
you're unified, to now go further and to unify yet

273
00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:05,720
another title.

274
00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:07,120
Speaker 3: If you're the victor on Saturday.

275
00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:11,559
Speaker 2: Absolutely, you know he's the number one man half a Saturday.

276
00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:14,279
But like I said, it's close to the fight, it

277
00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:18,840
is hard to think too much. Sure, sure, it's yeah,

278
00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:20,559
he's the number one man next.

279
00:13:21,759 --> 00:13:24,840
Speaker 1: And so what would unifying titles mean to you? Because

280
00:13:25,279 --> 00:13:27,759
just winning a world title is big for any boxer

281
00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:30,759
number one, but getting the chance to do it against

282
00:13:30,759 --> 00:13:33,919
another champion and get another title in your collection on

283
00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:36,240
a big stage like this, and presumably for the best

284
00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:38,279
money you've ever made in your career, what would all

285
00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:39,759
that mean to you to unify?

286
00:13:41,039 --> 00:13:43,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, be and I you know, it was just the

287
00:13:43,039 --> 00:13:46,200
other day that seventeen years ago, just the other day.

288
00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:49,720
Speaker 3: David a unified or beat j Mormeck.

289
00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:52,559
Speaker 2: For the Unified championship, because he was unified champion when

290
00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:55,679
he beat him, and that you know, he's the last

291
00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:59,600
Brick to do so. So to be involved in the

292
00:13:59,639 --> 00:14:02,480
history with David Hay and everyone as someone who I

293
00:14:02,519 --> 00:14:06,159
grew up loving watching the fight he was. His style

294
00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:10,320
was just amazing to watch. I've got to share the

295
00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:12,639
ring with him later on in his career in sparring

296
00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:16,080
and stuff as well, So yeah, to be to be

297
00:14:16,519 --> 00:14:18,559
in the history books of him would be a great honor.

298
00:14:19,519 --> 00:14:20,799
Speaker 1: Well, I could say, I wish you the best of

299
00:14:20,879 --> 00:14:23,960
luck on Saturday. I'm looking forward to watching the fight

300
00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:26,720
and hopefully we can have another chat afterwards and we'll

301
00:14:26,759 --> 00:14:29,720
be talking about some other big fights pretty down the road. Chris,

302
00:14:29,759 --> 00:14:31,080
thank you someone I appreciate it.

303
00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:33,159
Speaker 3: Thank you Dan. Cheers your time, you bet