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Speaker 3: Troy Hutcheson once you gets here, and one, of course one,
Speaker 3: how are you doing great? It was a great weekend
Speaker 3: of sports. It was so let me, did you get
Speaker 3: surprised by anything? I got surprised on one game in
Speaker 3: the NFL. I thought the Bucks beating down on the Charges.
Speaker 3: Was surprised. That was my lone miss last week. I
Speaker 3: got my pick right. Who was it? Bronco? Oh yeah,
Speaker 3: the Broncos. They were struggling. I was okay with that
Speaker 3: until they came back.
Speaker 4: And won that game.
Speaker 3: Defense showed out for us again. Yes, they're doing well.
Speaker 3: They're doing well, but I was thinking more locally than nationally.
Speaker 3: Men's basketball game. That doesn't surprise you, did it?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 3: We both Jay and I said that they would lose.
Speaker 5: It was the result wasn't surprising the way Arizona performed
Speaker 5: a little bit because they they've kind of found a
Speaker 5: rhythm for for a little bit and they lost it.
Speaker 3: In the game. You mean yeah, yeah, because they were
Speaker 3: able to do the things that the we used to doing,
Speaker 3: you know, running, scoring, on a transition. They just got
Speaker 3: physical too.
Speaker 5: They matched the UCLA's physicality at some at one point.
Speaker 5: And then they couldn't find anything in the last nine minutes.
Speaker 3: Right, right, And then all went to hell after that.
Speaker 3: In the first in the last eight nine minutes, they
Speaker 3: couldn't hit a shot, couldn't hit a basket, blah blah blah.
Speaker 3: But that's been the fate the whole season. And you
Speaker 3: probably don't read me, right, you probably don't read me
Speaker 3: by Colin was about how disappointing it's been and to
Speaker 3: the fans, to to to Tommy, he admitted, they're struggling
Speaker 3: right now, and okay, and even a blind guy can
Speaker 3: see that. Uh, they're not the team that we've seen,
Speaker 3: not the thing that not the team that we thought
Speaker 3: they would be. And there so many things. If you're
Speaker 3: reading my story, I even said, there's too many things
Speaker 3: right about to put it in there.
Speaker 5: It's too much inconsistency across the board. It would be
Speaker 5: one thing if they weren't hitting shots, but they were
Speaker 5: good on defense, or not good on defense but hitting shots.
Speaker 3: It's it's all across them all. Yeah, it's just inconsistent.
Speaker 3: You're exactly right with a lot of things, so much,
Speaker 3: too so much to look at, and I'm not sure
Speaker 3: it's fixable because there's too many things. If it was
Speaker 3: just one or two things, it'd be okay, But too
Speaker 3: many things.
Speaker 5: I think, I think right now you have to look
Speaker 5: at possibly just changing up the starting lineup. I thought,
Speaker 5: I thought, give me your give me your lineup right now,
Speaker 5: Jaden Bradley, kJ Lewis, Carter Bryant, Trade Townsend and Henry Basar.
Speaker 3: Okay without without uh, I don't mind that that that lineup, uh,
Speaker 3: knowing that you could lose uh, mister Caleb Love emotionally,
Speaker 3: physically and all of the bove.
Speaker 5: I think this might be something he might need just
Speaker 5: just to get out of his own head. Maybe give
Speaker 5: him a little bit of perspective, give him a chance
Speaker 5: to just come off off the bench fresh, no pressure
Speaker 5: to being the starter, having to make plays. He's just
Speaker 5: trying to create something.
Speaker 3: What's this fix? Truly?
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 6: You look at it right now? To me, the biggest
Speaker 6: problem is the sister turnover ratio. Arisone has twenty two
Speaker 6: turnovers in their last game. I think they finished with
Speaker 6: like sixteen assists, So that's under usually doing. That's one
Speaker 6: of Tommy Lloyd's bread and butters, the sister turnover. I
Speaker 6: want to bet bench Love. I don't think you lose them,
Speaker 6: to be honest, but I look at a guy like
Speaker 6: Trade Townsend.
Speaker 3: What's he doing on the court for Arizona. Yeah, he's
Speaker 3: doing more harm than good. The positive there, Yeah, doing
Speaker 3: more harm than good.
Speaker 6: So if you go, if you go small and sert
Speaker 6: kJ at the small forward position, have Carter at the
Speaker 6: power forward and kind of just run the floor and.
Speaker 3: Well yeah yeah yeah. So give me that lineup, and
Speaker 3: I'll compare this lineup to another lineup that I that
Speaker 3: I covered a lot of time ago. So you got
Speaker 3: Jayden Bradley, You've got kJ Lewis, you got Caleb Love,
Speaker 3: you got Carter Bryant, and then you go o waka walka. Okay,
Speaker 3: so that's not bad. So let me let me give
Speaker 3: this and this is this is twenty seven years ago, okay,
Speaker 3: so so bear with me, and the names cannot be compared.
Speaker 3: You got Mike Bibbie, you got Miles Simon, you got
Speaker 3: Michael Dickerson in the back court, you had a J.
Speaker 3: Brownley in the middle, marginal a J. Brandley right, and
Speaker 3: and you had Bennet Davison. So so you small ish
Speaker 3: throughout the whole lineup, right, but able to do a
Speaker 3: lot of different things. During the season, they were not
Speaker 3: very impactful. When the tournament came, they were impactful. Uh
Speaker 3: do I like that lineup? You may have no choice
Speaker 3: because creevs Crevas has one hasn't played well and two
Speaker 3: now he's out, So what are you losing?
Speaker 6: Exactly? And I still think even with that lineup the
Speaker 6: end of the day, who on Arizona's roster is the
Speaker 6: guy that makes off? And as a distributor, only one
Speaker 6: guy is there? A guy jayde Bradley and not that.
Speaker 6: Let me tell you something.
Speaker 3: You and I. You and I sat next to each
Speaker 3: other a lot last year, and what was my biggest complaint?
Speaker 3: His head down? He dribbles with the head down, gets
Speaker 3: to the basket, doesn't look at other options. He'll have
Speaker 3: to change that a little bit. But and I asked
Speaker 3: the question of Tommy, I mean, if you don't have
Speaker 3: Caleb Love. Do you have to go to the guy
Speaker 3: next to you Jayde and Bradley more often to kind
Speaker 3: of pull you out and in a role He probably
Speaker 3: didn't remember that. She's probably too young when Jason Terry
Speaker 3: in nineteen ninety nine took over the team and had
Speaker 3: this college basketball player of the year type of stuff
Speaker 3: because he had no choice but to score thirty points
Speaker 3: a game. And not that Jayden needs to, but he's
Speaker 3: the guy with the ball. He loves having the ball,
Speaker 3: he loves shooting the ball, loves attacking the ball. They
Speaker 3: have none of that outside of Jayden Bradley. Yeah, that's
Speaker 3: about it.
Speaker 6: And you look at this gun man's UCLA twelve points
Speaker 6: and a fishing twelve points four seven shooting. He only
Speaker 6: took seven shots, right, you weren't very aggressive. Meanwhile, Caleb Love,
Speaker 6: no offense, Caleb Love, but three of ten from the floor,
Speaker 6: seven points, one of seven from the three point line.
Speaker 6: You're just chucking up shots. How could a guy regress
Speaker 6: so much?
Speaker 3: Honestly, the guy we know, the guy could play right
Speaker 3: eight games now, nine games now, and give me a
Speaker 3: good game, give me a pick a game, any game.
Speaker 3: And he had a good game.
Speaker 6: I think he had one in the Bahamas, but they
Speaker 6: lost that game. I think it was West Virginia.
Speaker 3: So how could a guy who regress so much or
Speaker 3: just being a funk so much? I mean, okay near
Speaker 3: me now and again maybe, but nine eight of nine games, Well, I.
Speaker 6: Think it's what we saw at the beginning, well not sab,
Speaker 6: but heard at the beginning of the season from Caleb
Speaker 6: Love and from Tommy Lloyd.
Speaker 3: Changing is that they're going to change his role.
Speaker 6: They're going to make him play off the ball and
Speaker 6: not have the ball in his hands and dictate the offense.
Speaker 6: You're asking a guy to do something he's not used
Speaker 6: to doing or even capable of doing.
Speaker 3: Well. Well, I talked to an NBA guy over the
Speaker 3: weekend and there's so many issues with him that I asked,
Speaker 3: why is he eighty fourth among the draftees And there's
Speaker 3: obviously more on court, off court type of things, personality, Uh,
Speaker 3: but he's not impressive. He's not impressive to the NBA.
Speaker 3: So this is his NBA season, Yeah, because he won't
Speaker 3: have a shot next season if this continues. And I'm
Speaker 3: talking to even just a shot, because he's apparently not
Speaker 3: good enough at eighty fourth being. You know he might be,
Speaker 3: but well, I mean, as you packtroll player of the Year,
Speaker 3: and it wasn't good. It wasn't good, right, right, And
Speaker 3: you're thinking, wasn't How is that possible? But you kind
Speaker 3: of other know other things, right, Tommy, Tommy's getting paid
Speaker 3: a lot of money. Now, he's gonna get paid to
Speaker 3: figure this out. You know, just got that extension not
Speaker 3: too long ago. Yeah, I think it's five millions something
Speaker 3: like that. Five years, right, five million years right. Now,
Speaker 3: he's gonna have to get paid. I just don't understand
Speaker 3: his regression. Kj's regression. Carter hasn't been amazing. Carter hasn't
Speaker 3: been the McDonald's all American that we expect to see.
Speaker 3: Uh And okay, so you were there with me and
Speaker 3: we won't go into names, Troy, when we were sat
Speaker 3: down to write, right, and we were talking to some
Speaker 3: people in the in the media kind of what's wrong
Speaker 3: with this team? They were talking talent. Yeah, they were
Speaker 3: talking talent. So the transfer portal was not kind to
Speaker 3: Arizona at least to this point. A Waka is okay.
Speaker 3: Townsend has been not so okay. Dyla also has been
Speaker 3: more off and on and they were coming from smaller schools,
Speaker 3: and you're thinking, maybe they're just not good enough to
Speaker 3: play here. I mean, that's what they were saying, and
Speaker 3: I trust what they're saying. I don't know that yet.
Speaker 3: I don't know that yet. But you have to look
Speaker 3: at it, don't you.
Speaker 6: Well, And you know, coach Cronin talked about it after
Speaker 6: the game in his own kind of crone In way. Yeah,
Speaker 6: it's like, Okay, I'm used to seeing a waka in
Speaker 6: the SEC playing that's style basketball. I'm used to playing
Speaker 6: in town, seeing Townsend at Oakland, well, all those schools
Speaker 6: that they named, very different styles and very different pieces.
Speaker 3: So well, it's funny because I foolishly look at Twitter
Speaker 3: and Facebook foolishly because I'm it's just too me, some
Speaker 3: mess everybody all we wish we had Sean Miller. They're
Speaker 3: half Sean Miller. It's his offense right now because Arizona
Speaker 3: can't Arizona can't run, they can't do what they've done
Speaker 3: in the past.
Speaker 6: And I'll say this, if Sean Miller had this team,
Speaker 6: there'd be no hope. No, Tommy is a much better
Speaker 6: offensive developer, and I think a developer talent than Seawan
Speaker 6: ever was Yes, yeah, fans don't like to hear it,
Speaker 6: but you had five star recruits. He had top ten
Speaker 6: recruiting classes that he didn't do, you know anything? Well,
Speaker 6: sure ended in the Elite eight Aaron Gordon? Did he
Speaker 6: get that much better from beginning?
Speaker 3: Dan? No, They the guy they relied on was TJ.
Speaker 3: McConnell and uh someone Johnson Solomon Hill. Yeah, and that
Speaker 3: was really that was really the yeah, yeah, no, and
Speaker 3: we gotta hello, you're on the air and eye of
Speaker 3: the Oh, who's this this?
Speaker 2: Brian?
Speaker 3: Brian? You are you alive?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 2: Are you okay?
Speaker 7: It was terrible Saturday.
Speaker 2: It was like the worst drive home I've ever had.
Speaker 3: Oh, so you you went to know, I know, and hey,
Speaker 3: there's no excuses, right. The crowd was in their favorite
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 2: I thought, you know, with seven forty two to go
Speaker 2: and we had the big lead and everything, and then
Speaker 2: you know, the one the big change I thought is
Speaker 2: when they brought that big man in the game, when
Speaker 2: he took the center, the skinny center out and they
Speaker 2: brought the other kid in.
Speaker 7: Yeah, he just ate us up alive in the middle.
Speaker 3: Was that the organ State guy? The guy who ate
Speaker 3: you up last year as well for Oregon.
Speaker 2: State, right right, he did. Yeah, he hammered us last year.
Speaker 2: Wednesday brought him in, but then also too. I just thought, okay,
Speaker 2: but we didn't match them shot for shot, which was
Speaker 2: really a problem. We came down the court and all
Speaker 2: of a sudden, we're jacking up threes instead of working
Speaker 2: the ball and working the block. And I just thought that,
Speaker 2: you know, Tommy Lloyd did not make any kind of adjustments,
Speaker 2: you know, bring somebody in maybe to put a physical
Speaker 2: body on that guy, you know, but we we didn't
Speaker 2: do it. You know, Uh, you had all kinds of
Speaker 2: fouls to waste. Why not, so you know we're shooting
Speaker 2: that welpon a free throw line either And I just
Speaker 2: I would just shock about how no adjustments were made
Speaker 2: the last almost eight minutes of the game.
Speaker 6: Well, I was going to say to Tommy's not defense,
Speaker 6: but you have to look at it in this way.
Speaker 6: He had one time out in the last eight minutes
Speaker 6: and forty six seconds of that game because kJ Lewis
Speaker 6: called that time out to change to save the possession,
Speaker 6: which you know what, take the turnover there, Jayme and
Speaker 6: Bradley called that one time out before you step out
Speaker 6: of bounce.
Speaker 7: I do like that time out, right, And I know
Speaker 7: that there was two up.
Speaker 2: One on one on the floor where they had to
Speaker 2: jump ball. Yeah, it was going to be a jump
Speaker 2: ball called the time out.
Speaker 3: I believe it would have been the UCLA's ball and
Speaker 3: that jump ball.
Speaker 6: Even even so, you kind of eat that if you're
Speaker 6: able to have two timeouts in that last eight minutes there,
Speaker 6: I think Tommy's able to call time out in the
Speaker 6: five to four minute mark kind of reset things without that.
Speaker 2: Even when a call timeouts, we didn't make adjustments.
Speaker 3: So let me say, let me ask you this, Bud.
Speaker 3: So you're driving home an hour, an hour and a half,
Speaker 3: two hours, whatever it was.
Speaker 2: What do you think eier than that? I had to
Speaker 2: go to the bar Furst.
Speaker 3: Well, when you're drinking and thinking, are you thinking they
Speaker 3: have a chance to get out of this mess?
Speaker 7: You know the way you look at it, I don't
Speaker 7: think they do.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be tough. And I wrote that. I don't
Speaker 3: know if you're reading me bright, but exactly they're going
Speaker 3: into it steeper, steeper, Uh, get harder now, Yeah, it's
Speaker 3: gonna get harder against easier team, against stuffer teams for
Speaker 3: not just one or two, it's seven.
Speaker 2: It's it's it's game after game now. I mean, if
Speaker 2: you look at it, you know we've lost five games.
Speaker 2: We lost five games against quality opponents, and we really
Speaker 2: haven't looked that great against quality opponents. And you're right now,
Speaker 2: that's all we're going to have after starting in January.
Speaker 3: Well, let me say this, Okay, you put U CLI
Speaker 3: in the big twelve before they finish. You put Duke
Speaker 3: in the where they finished probably at the top, near
Speaker 3: the top.
Speaker 2: But the other teams are don't know if U c
Speaker 2: l A does, but I think Duke doesn't.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, but that's my point. You're gonna have teams
Speaker 3: better than Uclah. Yeah, Wisconsin, Wisconsin. I mean, come on,
Speaker 3: and you're gonna be on the road trying to win
Speaker 3: with this. I you know that for the first time,
Speaker 3: for the first time. And I don't doubt Tommy at all,
Speaker 3: because I think he's a very good coach. That he
Speaker 3: made some decisions that were just kind of strange to me.
Speaker 3: In fact, I turned to my right one one moment
Speaker 3: in the first first the first half, I turned to uh,
Speaker 3: to Brian Peterson, I said, this is a weird lineup.
Speaker 3: It's not gonna get you any points. It's not gonna
Speaker 3: get you anything. And then he says, well, they're kind
Speaker 3: of resting the other guys. I'm thinking, you don't need rest,
Speaker 3: you don't need rest. You got this course of moment.
Speaker 2: You've had a week off and now you've got another
Speaker 2: week off. Yeah, yeah, and I got you know, I
Speaker 2: just don't know if they're using Carter Bryant the right way,
Speaker 2: you know, I mean, you know, put him in a couple.
Speaker 7: Of minutes a game. It's like anybody needs to flow.
Speaker 2: The game to play. Yeah, and he doesn't. He doesn't
Speaker 2: seem I mean, he played well at times, and then
Speaker 2: to take him out and.
Speaker 7: And then if it was non existing in the.
Speaker 2: Second half, and I'm sitting there going, why not put
Speaker 2: him on that big guy for a few minutes or
Speaker 2: put the other guy who they took out never brought
Speaker 2: back in again.
Speaker 3: Well, here's my thought on this, and I never said
Speaker 3: this before, just out of it. He's a McDonald's All American,
Speaker 3: and of all the McDonald's All Americans I've covered here,
Speaker 3: especially in loose time, never failed to be very impressive
Speaker 3: in their first year. Brian has not been that guy yet.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well I would just like I would liked to scene,
Speaker 2: you know, you know, I mean, balls are going out
Speaker 2: of bounds. You still could have put a sub in
Speaker 2: whatever to put on that guy, just to kind of
Speaker 2: slow him down a little bit, you.
Speaker 7: Know, because you know, pleasure the turnovers, I mean, twenty seven.
Speaker 2: Points off the turnovers ridiculous.
Speaker 3: It was unbelievable. Yeah, we gotta go. We gotta go, guys,
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Speaker 3: Hey, welcome back to Eye on the Ball here on
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Speaker 2: One.
Speaker 3: Everybody, thank you for coming in. Uh, it's always second guest.
Speaker 3: Mondays right. It's been like that for football and for
Speaker 3: basketball for months now. This this, uh, this program has
Speaker 3: been kissed with us, kiss the death for a lot
Speaker 3: of things. It's it's probably one of the words we
Speaker 3: got to call. Okay, Hello, you're on the air and
Speaker 3: I on the ball. Is this coach? It is? How
Speaker 3: are you fine? Coach? How are you? Thanks for calling in? Uh?
Speaker 3: What a fantastic run you are having. How cool is
Speaker 3: it for you as a coach.
Speaker 15: It's wonderful. I really enjoyed it.
Speaker 3: Uh. You started very well, obviously with all those wins.
Speaker 3: I'm assuming you especially because your second year, after your
Speaker 3: first year of maybe a little struggle, that was welcoming
Speaker 3: in as much as you got the players to learn
Speaker 3: how to win.
Speaker 15: Yes, my goal was to go out and recruit athletes
Speaker 15: that were Gator eight Player of the Year, state champions,
Speaker 15: won at the club level, just so I can come
Speaker 15: in and already have that ingrained, and then while we
Speaker 15: were still teaching up the ones that were in the
Speaker 15: program that were great athletes and understood the game but
Speaker 15: just hadn't had a lot of success being here at
Speaker 15: the time.
Speaker 3: This is a dumb question to ask your coach. Has
Speaker 3: it even surprised you?
Speaker 15: You know, I haven't really sat back and thought about it,
Speaker 15: just because I'm trying to take one day at a time,
Speaker 15: but not if you say it that way, and because
Speaker 15: I paused for a minute, yet I am surprised in
Speaker 15: a good way though.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, of course, of course, But I'm talking about
Speaker 3: the entirety of the season. But after the wins early,
Speaker 3: probably some struggles, but also doing well in the Big
Speaker 3: twelve and now this it probably not so much because
Speaker 3: you've seen it and you realized it.
Speaker 15: Right right, you know. I've been on teams that have
Speaker 15: won and teams that have lost, and you know, there's
Speaker 15: a formula to it each year, but it's slightly different.
Speaker 15: You just tweak it here, you tweak it there, and
Speaker 15: get the right players into those pieces. And so every
Speaker 15: day is a new day, and so I just tried
Speaker 15: to prepare myself just to be ready for this day
Speaker 15: and tackle it and then be ready for.
Speaker 2: The next day.
Speaker 6: So, as you guys have gone through this run, just
Speaker 6: seeing the fans support from Arizona for volleyball and seeing
Speaker 6: that re energized after not having postseason volleyball for so long,
Speaker 6: what does that mean to you? Helping this program rebuild
Speaker 6: it self in that way.
Speaker 15: You know, we have a great base with our season
Speaker 15: ticket holders. I mean they email me all the time
Speaker 15: or they'll send me messages or green treats and things
Speaker 15: like that. So to me, it's really exciting to be
Speaker 15: able to give something back to them because at the
Speaker 15: end of the day, all they want is for us
Speaker 15: to work hard and put ourselves in a position to
Speaker 15: be the best that we can be, and they'll show
Speaker 15: their support regardless. So being able to be in an
Speaker 15: environment where they can come out and watch us play
Speaker 15: even more and then go to this journey with us
Speaker 15: is amazing. I mean, I love every minute of it.
Speaker 3: You've been here for a while, so I'm sure you
Speaker 3: saw the surge or resurgence or surge of idea when
Speaker 3: she was going through this and the WNIT and stuff
Speaker 3: like that. And I've been here a long time, coach,
Speaker 3: and I didn't ever imagine ever imagine that the women's
Speaker 3: basketball program would sell out a wnit and now reach
Speaker 3: the heights that it's done. And that's just because you know,
Speaker 3: we've been here so long, we never saw it and
Speaker 3: then it happened. I'm assuming that you're wishing something like
Speaker 3: this catches fire with you.
Speaker 15: Absolute because I've watched men's basketball, I've watched softball, and
Speaker 15: I watched women's basketball go from picking any seat you
Speaker 15: want at any given time to now having to reserve
Speaker 15: the seats and you know it be in a packed environment.
Speaker 15: I know that we can do it. For volleyball, it's
Speaker 15: just a matter of everyone coming out and seeing it
Speaker 15: because it's a contagious sport. You know, you may not
Speaker 15: know all the ins and outs of it, but it's fun.
Speaker 15: You know, when the long rally goes and and then
Speaker 15: the players are running across the court getting the ball
Speaker 15: up and cheering and celebrating.
Speaker 3: It's amazing.
Speaker 15: So my goal is to get our arena packed and
Speaker 15: put fans in the stands.
Speaker 6: Is there any chance that coach Rubio will be there
Speaker 6: for the big game coming up?
Speaker 15: Yes, he's actually been at the last every game that
Speaker 15: we've had for the in IBC he's been there and
Speaker 15: he'll be here tomorrow night. Yes him, yesterday.
Speaker 3: Very nice. Let me tell you I covered volleyball at
Speaker 3: the Olympics in Greece a while back. In the craziness
Speaker 3: of that was because these athletes are unbelievable. And then
Speaker 3: the last week or so, I've been watching the NCAA's right,
Speaker 3: last night, i watched the big Penn State game, and
Speaker 3: I'm thinking, these women are fantastic at what they do.
Speaker 3: Balls coming to what you give me the speed because
Speaker 3: it's coming fast and hard. Just the kind of maybe
Speaker 3: underappreciated talent that they have.
Speaker 15: You know, it's such an unforgiving sport, especially when you
Speaker 15: start out young, because everyone knows when it's your fault.
Speaker 15: So if the ball falls near you, whether you know
Speaker 15: the game or not, you go, oh, that's your fault,
Speaker 15: or the ball you hit it out of balance, Oh
Speaker 15: that's your fault. Where there's actually different areas of it
Speaker 15: that determine who's going to do what. But it's a
Speaker 15: sport that you can just get with and then you
Speaker 15: explain it. So one of the things that we did
Speaker 15: this year, which I think helped with our Zona Zoo,
Speaker 15: is that we brought them in and taught them how
Speaker 15: to play volleyball and gave them an opportunity to kind
Speaker 15: of see what we go through. And then at the
Speaker 15: end they played and the players were the ones in
Speaker 15: the stands cheering them on or booing them.
Speaker 2: And things like that.
Speaker 15: And so that's something I want to do with our
Speaker 15: season ticket holders, and so we a plan for that
Speaker 15: this spring as well.
Speaker 3: Very cool, very different, good.
Speaker 6: So how can you guys use this as a And
Speaker 6: Steve kind of brought it up in terms of the
Speaker 6: boosts that I gave women's basketball, but the recruiting side
Speaker 6: of it for volleyball moving forward for the program.
Speaker 15: Well, we're still marketing. You know, there's six teams plan
Speaker 15: right now. Everyone else in the country is finished where
Speaker 15: you know, two will be here and others will be
Speaker 15: planned this week in Louisville. So it's like, okay, now
Speaker 15: what Arizona volleyball? You just continue to become relevant to them,
Speaker 15: and we want to present that to our recruits that
Speaker 15: we're going to always expect and plan to be planned
Speaker 15: late in December.
Speaker 3: How did the Big twelve schedule prepare you for this
Speaker 3: one and two? I'm sure you had to be disappointed
Speaker 3: that you didn't make the tournament.
Speaker 15: Well, definitely disappointed that we didn't make the tournament. But
Speaker 15: I am of the mindset that you can't be happy
Speaker 15: and sad at the same time. And so once that
Speaker 15: day was over, I said, okay, let it go. Now
Speaker 15: we got to go out there and I got to
Speaker 15: show the players that you know, yes, we were set yesterday,
Speaker 15: but we have a job, we have a mission, we
Speaker 15: have a goal, and being in the Big twelve has
Speaker 15: put us in a position where now we can compete
Speaker 15: across the board. You know, it's different than the Pac twelve.
Speaker 15: Not good, not bad, but it's definitely different in the
Speaker 15: sense that being in the Pac twelve, everyone knew about
Speaker 15: Stanford or knew about UCLA, or when you come into
Speaker 15: the Big twelve, the players aren't as familiar with the
Speaker 15: programs in there, even though there's been some programs that
Speaker 15: have done well over the years. But it's a different
Speaker 15: feel altogether, and so we just want to put ourselves
Speaker 15: in a position to compete all the time.
Speaker 3: You could call me a full coach. I'm fine with that,
Speaker 3: but let me throw this at you too. I don't
Speaker 3: believe in I don't believe in momentum. I just don't
Speaker 3: because every every game is a different game, and you move,
Speaker 3: you know, you win one. Every game is a season
Speaker 3: if you will. But you can go on runs and
Speaker 3: I'll call it more confidence than momentum. So your players
Speaker 3: must have realized back in the beginning we have we're
Speaker 3: getting confidence, winning a lot of games, getting confidence, and
Speaker 3: now regain that confidence and now almost feel not invincible.
Speaker 3: But you know what I'm saying, Yes, it's confidence.
Speaker 15: Winning is contagious, just like losing. This contagious. And so
Speaker 15: for this group of athletes, I knew that we had
Speaker 15: to put ourselves. I had to put them in a
Speaker 15: position where they could know that they could be winners,
Speaker 15: that they could be champions. And it wasn't just idle chatter.
Speaker 15: And so you know, when we went off and we
Speaker 15: did well in preseason, and then we got into the
Speaker 15: beginning the Big twelve play and we went through some
Speaker 15: bumps and bruises, it was still an opportunity for us
Speaker 15: to say, but we did well there. But now we
Speaker 15: have to reset and recharge and get our focus back
Speaker 15: and put ourselves in a position where we can then
Speaker 15: know that we can compete with anyone. And so when
Speaker 15: we are texting in the midst of the NC Doublea's
Speaker 15: and saying are you seeing this?
Speaker 3: Do you see this?
Speaker 15: Or do you learn what's going on? Now? It's something
Speaker 15: that they can relate to because we can actually still
Speaker 15: go in the gym and.
Speaker 16: Work on it.
Speaker 3: So from time to time. We had a coach here
Speaker 3: as my guest last week, a guy I know, very successful,
Speaker 3: and he said he's been coaching close to thirty years
Speaker 3: and that team that he coached most recently changed him
Speaker 3: become a different type of coach more, I don't know, more,
Speaker 3: more of a coach, a player's coach or whatever, because
Speaker 3: he's a tough dude. Has this been able to maybe
Speaker 3: enlighten you, change you or maybe you didn't need it?
Speaker 15: Well, every year is a new year. Every group is different,
Speaker 15: and funny that you should ask that. I was having
Speaker 15: a meeting with a player earlier today and I asked,
Speaker 15: I said, essentially, am I hard to play for? Or
Speaker 15: was Dave harder to play for? And she was like,
Speaker 15: you are? And I was like why you know? I'm like, oh,
Speaker 15: I'm the cool coach. I'm the one that you know
Speaker 15: does all these different things. And everyone's a little bit different,
Speaker 15: and part of it is based on the athletes that
Speaker 15: you bring in sure, and them understanding who you are
Speaker 15: as a person. I do know that I am the
Speaker 15: type of person that will ask a lot of questions,
Speaker 15: and my expectations never changed, nor did Dave's expect But
Speaker 15: it's something different when it comes from someone that looks
Speaker 15: like you versus that doesn't look like you. I don't
Speaker 15: know that that's good nor bad. I just know it's different.
Speaker 3: Well too too, Since you brought in these winners, right,
Speaker 3: you brought in these winners, they probably know the expectations.
Speaker 3: They don't like to lose, they don't like failure, So
Speaker 3: your system probably fits in with theirs.
Speaker 15: Yes, I would agree with that one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And how do you facilitate that? Because if winners win,
Speaker 3: how do you push them to win more?
Speaker 15: You continue to challenge them. You put a different obstacle
Speaker 15: in front of them. That's good, But okay, why would you?
Speaker 15: Why did you do that? So I ask a lot
Speaker 15: of questions.
Speaker 2: What were you trying to do?
Speaker 15: Was that your entire hand? Were you really trying to
Speaker 15: serve there? Did you think that was a good idea?
Speaker 14: Why is that going on?
Speaker 15: And so my goal is to always challenge and stimulate
Speaker 15: their brain to keep them on their toes. But then
Speaker 15: in the same breath, sit back and say, Okay, tell
Speaker 15: me why you did that, so that I can hear
Speaker 15: what they have to say, because at the end of
Speaker 15: the day, the athlete has to be able to clear
Speaker 15: their mind and tell you what they're thinking, otherwise they're
Speaker 15: going to harbor that for a long time.
Speaker 5: One of those winags you brought in was Carly Ciscenaro
Speaker 5: is obviously GATORA Player of the Year coming out of
Speaker 5: high school, and early on in the season you said,
Speaker 5: she's really good at swinging down the line. How what
Speaker 5: else have you seen improve in her game as the
Speaker 5: season progressed And is she someone that Tucson can look
Speaker 5: to when they think of Arizona volleyball.
Speaker 15: Absolutely, you know, for Carly, she was one of the
Speaker 15: things with players who have great vision as she does,
Speaker 15: you think to go around the block, and that works
Speaker 15: very well in club, but when you get to college,
Speaker 15: they want you to go around the block so you
Speaker 15: can go right to their defender. And so what Carly
Speaker 15: has learned over the season is how to attack the
Speaker 15: block and not be afraid to go through the block.
Speaker 15: You know, you got to go up there and you
Speaker 15: have to hit harder. You have to if you go
Speaker 15: around it. That's what they want you to do. So
Speaker 15: that is something that doesn't always bring success right off
Speaker 15: the bat. And so teaching her that it's okay, you
Speaker 15: still pick the right line, it's gonna work, stick with it,
Speaker 15: and that's what's happening, and now the game has become
Speaker 15: that much more easy to her.
Speaker 3: Sorry to spoil this great conversation, but let me bring
Speaker 3: bring up an il. Uh. Has it affected you? I mean,
Speaker 3: it's got to affect like the sports like you and
Speaker 3: softball and all that, because you guys are trying to
Speaker 3: do your job at a great pace, but it's tough
Speaker 3: to partly find the numbers or money.
Speaker 15: You know. It's I have a love hate relationship with it,
Speaker 15: for sure. I love the fact that the athletes get
Speaker 15: a chance to, you know, capitalize on who they are
Speaker 15: and what they bring to the table. But the reality
Speaker 15: is not everyone gets the opportunity to capitalize on it.
Speaker 15: So there's going to always be someone left out for
Speaker 15: whatever the reason is. You know, be it they don't
Speaker 15: play as much. Be it, they're not on social media.
Speaker 2: Be it, there.
Speaker 15: You know, they don't have that look that someone's looking for,
Speaker 15: and so you know, it does boil down to the money.
Speaker 15: You know, there's a lot of athletes in different conferences
Speaker 15: that we won't even get a shot at because we
Speaker 15: don't have the funds to be able to say, hey,
Speaker 15: look at us, even though we have a great product,
Speaker 15: we have a great city to have a great community,
Speaker 15: and so it is frustrating. But at the end of
Speaker 15: the day, I want athletes to be here because they
Speaker 15: want to play and they want to compete, and then
Speaker 15: we'll find ways to, you know, sprinkle some things their
Speaker 15: way should that come available. But I don't want that
Speaker 15: to be the first question out of an athlete's mouth.
Speaker 15: And now coming out of high school, that's the third question,
Speaker 15: how much money.
Speaker 2: Can I make?
Speaker 15: And I'm like, well, you haven't done anything yet, why are.
Speaker 7: You ask me how much money?
Speaker 11: You know?
Speaker 15: And so that that puts a bad taste in my.
Speaker 3: Mouth when I hear that you coaches are under the gun.
Speaker 3: It's just I don't know if i'd want to be one,
Speaker 3: because it's it's a lot of facilitating in a lot
Speaker 3: of different directions.
Speaker 15: Well, you know, we have great people here, helping to
Speaker 15: raise money and working within our athletic department, which I appreciate,
Speaker 15: and you know, you just kind of go back to
Speaker 15: them and say, hey, we need this and can we
Speaker 15: do this? And it's about forming great relationships, which is why.
Speaker 15: You know, the more fans I can get in the stands,
Speaker 15: the more that you know, the right people will be
Speaker 15: there to say, hey, we want to help your program out,
Speaker 15: because it is still about the student athlete at the
Speaker 15: end of the day, and then you have a good
Speaker 15: relationship with them, you can navigate that relationship.
Speaker 2: A little bit more.
Speaker 3: Okay, so how many how many attendees do you hope
Speaker 3: for tomorrow? And how can they get to the game
Speaker 3: and tickets and all that.
Speaker 15: My goal is to have four thousand fans tomorrow, and
Speaker 15: that is an ambitious goal of mine. But I believe
Speaker 15: in aiming big and going hard and don't go at all.
Speaker 15: And the game is at six o'clock and they can
Speaker 15: get tickets at by two year old six two one
Speaker 15: cat is supporting the athletes. No, we've done our part.
Speaker 2: Now we need fans.
Speaker 3: Let me say this, You guys are a breath of
Speaker 3: fresh air with what's going on in the spree in
Speaker 3: the fall sports with football, biz basketball, whizz basketball. So
Speaker 3: that's a great thing. You're you're holding up the fort
Speaker 3: here at U.
Speaker 15: Yes, it's We're one big family. We're going to always
Speaker 15: bear down together. So I'll pick up the slack now well.
Speaker 3: Within the championship with that'll ease some tension over there.
Speaker 15: Thanks, thank you so much.
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Speaker 3: Hey, welcome back to trying the Ball here at Fox
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Speaker 3: today as Troy Hutchinson from Goazycats and my guy one
Speaker 3: from azydesertswarm dot com. Go make sure you read both
Speaker 3: of them, and you can read me at Dallasports tusun
Speaker 3: dot com. There's so many people with so many theories
Speaker 3: or solutions. I saw over the weekend. You know, Ballo's
Speaker 3: gone and they used him so much and blah blah blah.
Speaker 3: Ball was ballow. He was not gonna help this group.
Speaker 3: It just wasn't. He still has swash. He's getting a
Speaker 3: lot of beef out of Indiana. They're not any good too.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 3: He's getting paid one point reported at one point one
Speaker 3: point three. Everyone's not gonna pay both at one point two.
Speaker 6: Come on, no, And you know they spent over seven
Speaker 6: million dollars in n l and and subpar so well,
Speaker 6: what what was the solution they be looking for a
Speaker 6: new coach with their oh very much.
Speaker 2: So.
Speaker 6: You know, Woodson's a good I think developer and a
Speaker 6: good exces and OSE guy, but he's not a college
Speaker 6: guy and that was clear from the beginning in terms
Speaker 6: of BOLLO.
Speaker 3: You look at this team right now.
Speaker 6: Okay, remember that Caleb Tarzouski team that lost in the
Speaker 6: tournament to which DA State. Yeah for sure, Okay, if
Speaker 6: you took Tarzuski off that team on that team pretty
Speaker 6: much the same team. Same with Ballow. He's not going
Speaker 6: to make an offensive difference as much. It's not going
Speaker 6: to fix your issues.
Speaker 3: And he was still a liability. I mean, come on,
Speaker 3: just remember go back to last year at the same time. Yeah,
Speaker 3: he's still the same dude. Yeah, there's no solution. They
Speaker 3: just got to play better, as simple as that. But
Speaker 3: it's very very convoluted. I tell you.
Speaker 6: The one thing that you know, we kind of talked
Speaker 6: about in terms of what's missing from last year in
Speaker 6: terms of the facilitating Kylon Boswall got a lot of
Speaker 6: grief here at Arizona, and I get it. You know,
Speaker 6: it's probably time for him to move on, right But
Speaker 6: he's a true point guard. And then your other facilitator
Speaker 6: was Paula.
Speaker 3: Larson who's in the NBA.
Speaker 6: So yeah, two guys that were facilitating and making the
Speaker 6: offense click giving up their game.
Speaker 3: You don't have that right now. If you're a coach,
Speaker 3: if you're a coach, if you're Cronin or whomever, what
Speaker 3: are you going to try to do against Arizona? What's
Speaker 3: the number one thing? Yees? Now slow them down in
Speaker 3: a f court because Luke couldn't do it, Sean couldn't
Speaker 3: do it. Now time he can't do it. They don't
Speaker 3: know how to score unless they have Salim or something
Speaker 3: like that. And that's you're talking one off signs you
Speaker 3: guys who can shoot, or a guy who can shoot
Speaker 3: Deloro or he needs to step up. They need a
Speaker 3: shooter to step up. And if he's if that's the
Speaker 3: only thing he does, that's the thing he needs to do.
Speaker 3: Because the half court game since nineteen eighty five eighty
Speaker 3: six has always given Arizona tough I want to say
Speaker 3: cuss word, but I can't tough situations.
Speaker 6: Well, it's because you know, you look at the game
Speaker 6: in college basketball and you see that in the NBA
Speaker 6: shooting is premier. How many times do you see an
Speaker 6: NBA player that can just shoot a three pointer and
Speaker 6: play a little bit of defense get paid a ton
Speaker 6: of money because not everybody can do it. You don't
Speaker 6: have those skill sets just going around shooting, and the
Speaker 6: development of shooting isn't where it used to be twenty
Speaker 6: plus years ago.
Speaker 3: Solution, Senor, I don't have any right now. There's not
Speaker 3: I mean there's not. We talked about that before the
Speaker 3: show began. There's so many, so many issues. Even if
Speaker 3: they're little, they compound into a lot. It's across the board. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: And you're using your word consistency. You know, there's head games.
Speaker 3: Now are they gonna stay stay afloat? I mean he
Speaker 3: talked about that they can't disband or they can't disengage.
Speaker 3: But but if you're not winning and you're in Arizona,
Speaker 3: guess what you start to do? You start to thinking
Speaker 3: second guess. So we got to call Hello, you're on
Speaker 3: the airline the ball. Who's this?
Speaker 2: Hey button? Rick?
Speaker 3: Hey? Rick? Oh you're gonna tell me what? You're gonna
Speaker 3: tell me something? Saturday?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, I.
Speaker 16: Got to camp out and watch a lot of the
Speaker 16: Big East, not the Big East excies me sec the
Speaker 16: Big Ten, so Bow follow and Boswell play as a
Speaker 16: matter of fact, But two things I noticed about Arizona,
Speaker 16: even auburnon what a team. And they get some players,
Speaker 16: but even in half court, they are constantly moving at
Speaker 16: three quarter to full speed. And it may not look
Speaker 16: like it, but they are so synchronized. And Arizona's biggest
Speaker 16: fault it slows down. It gets on a move. You know,
Speaker 16: the second ten minutes of the first half and then
Speaker 16: the first ten minutes of the second half, they were
Speaker 16: moving quick, not just fast, but quick around. There's even
Speaker 16: in the half court game, which translates to.
Speaker 7: Better full court pressure, it translates to better.
Speaker 16: Fast break opportunities. They were just faster. Then all of
Speaker 16: a sudden, they start playing that prevent defense that prevents
Speaker 16: them from winning, and they start slowing down. And that's
Speaker 16: when UCLA got a second brass and it choked us off.
Speaker 16: And I think coach is probably seeing the same thing.
Speaker 16: He's smarter than I am, for sure, but I think
Speaker 16: you're going to see these guys moved much quicker in
Speaker 16: the half court and allow them to transition back and forth.
Speaker 2: Even on defense. And that's what I noticed about.
Speaker 16: The SEC and the ACC and even in Big ten
Speaker 16: they move quicker at the half court game.
Speaker 3: So one of the things that Tommy said, I think
Speaker 3: it's the presh Converson Thursday and were you there Thursday. Well,
Speaker 3: we talked about Caleb specifically and what he needed because
Speaker 3: Bruce asked the question, and we'll have Bruce here the
Speaker 3: next hour about what he needed to do. Move without
Speaker 3: the ball better, they'll be more engaged on the other
Speaker 3: side of the ball. And offensively, Grick, if you noticed this,
Speaker 3: he doesn't move without the ball. He stands there. He's
Speaker 3: a sit and wait for the ball guy or calls
Speaker 3: for it. Come on, good players don't do that well.
Speaker 6: And that's completely opposite of what they were trying to
Speaker 6: have him do, which was score without the basketball, meaning
Speaker 6: moving around screens, moving around the court, making your guy
Speaker 6: work for it, and then all of a sudden, you
Speaker 6: get it off of a screen, you hit the elbow jumper,
Speaker 6: and you're there.
Speaker 3: You're just seeing them stand.
Speaker 7: At the elbow and then hey, yeah, but he'd been.
Speaker 16: Doing that much better in the second ten minutes of
Speaker 16: the first half and the first ten minutes.
Speaker 2: Of the second.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's got to be consistent.
Speaker 2: But it's got it.
Speaker 16: You're right, that's the problem that they're losing that consistency.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just it's just you. You've been a long
Speaker 3: time fan, Rick, I know that. How frustrating is it
Speaker 3: because stuff like this and I've covered this team a
Speaker 3: long time, thirty some years now. Uh, this is the
Speaker 3: one of the more perplexing teams I've I've watched over
Speaker 3: the years because I've seen Sean's teams kind of kind
Speaker 3: of disengage and loots maybe at the end at the
Speaker 3: end of his career. But this is just bizarre because
Speaker 3: you think they have enough talent. I think they do.
Speaker 3: Maybe I'm wrong, Well.
Speaker 16: They have enough talent, and they just I think they
Speaker 16: probably part of that problem is in their heads they
Speaker 16: think they're better than what they're actually producing.
Speaker 3: Well, the whole is always going through that they're not
Speaker 3: as good as they.
Speaker 16: Think they are, right, and I think, but they get
Speaker 16: so much hype from the media, they get so much
Speaker 16: hype from the national press. But a great player, Caleb's
Speaker 16: Caleb is a great example, comes here from North Carolina.
Speaker 16: He's like he's the next second coming, and you know,
Speaker 16: and these are still kids, and you can't feed them
Speaker 16: all this you know, prime rib and then all of
Speaker 16: a sudden, when they're getting chicken and they're getting you know,
Speaker 16: raw hamburger, they're not used to it. And guess what, folks,
Speaker 16: the world is made of chicken and raw hamburger. And
Speaker 16: that's what you better work hard so that you could
Speaker 16: earn the primary.
Speaker 3: Well, and there's your problem. There's another problem. You earn
Speaker 3: what you get. Well, these guys are already getting paid
Speaker 3: with what they're could you imagine, Rick, You're giving kids
Speaker 3: whatever you get you whatever, you give the three, two
Speaker 3: hundred and fifty, whatever the numbers five fifty, and then
Speaker 3: this is what you're getting for it.
Speaker 16: Well, that's I mean, that's the system that we all
Speaker 16: live in now. I mean, as far as we don't
Speaker 16: have amateur sports anymore.
Speaker 3: I'm going to shop at big lots, That's all I know.
Speaker 16: And you know what, this isn't just at Arizona.
Speaker 2: This is across the cutry.
Speaker 3: No, you're right, you're right.
Speaker 2: You've got kids getting paid a lot more than their worse.
Speaker 2: And again, their.
Speaker 16: Heads are getting swollen, they're walking around, they're wearing roll
Speaker 16: lectures and they should be wearing time X.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well we'll see if they keep on ticking after this.
Speaker 3: Thanks correct for the r Yeah no, I think there's
Speaker 3: a lot of issues and it's not exclusive to Arizona.
Speaker 6: We know, and you know, it's just not college sports.
Speaker 6: He's either you see it at the high school level.
Speaker 6: You see at AU level. That's really how college athletes
Speaker 6: and the mindset is coming from high school all the
Speaker 6: way up to college. You know, my whole entire what
Speaker 6: they call camp. There group of people that's around them.
Speaker 6: Tell me I'm the best thing ever. I don't have
Speaker 6: to listen to my coach. Well, you know what, sometimes
Speaker 6: your coach is right around the time.
Speaker 3: That's been I'm doing that for a while now. I've
Speaker 3: been following it. For the worst thing that I did
Speaker 3: was recruiting. I hated doing that because even now everyone's
Speaker 3: all you're talking about the UA football program. They lose
Speaker 3: thirty right now, they're getting people in and people coming
Speaker 3: from all over Texas and YadA, YadA. Okay, what does
Speaker 3: that mean? Okay? One, they have to be good when
Speaker 3: they get here and how long are they going to stay?
Speaker 3: So why would you why would you get you know,
Speaker 3: why would you get all giddy over a guy who
Speaker 3: may or may not show up, and if he does
Speaker 3: show up, he may not be that good.
Speaker 6: Well, look at Colorado in the last year, two years,
Speaker 6: they've had ninety five transfers in then out of the
Speaker 6: program m. I think it was the year before this
Speaker 6: one they had ninety five total in one season, and
Speaker 6: about twenty of those transferred in for spring football. Went
Speaker 6: through the workouts and what saw what Dion was about
Speaker 6: and said, you know what, No, I'm good, I'll transfer out.
Speaker 6: Arizona got one of those, and Taylor Upshaw he came
Speaker 6: to Arizona after spending one semester at Colorado for spring football.
Speaker 6: And then all of a sudden, you know, you have
Speaker 6: ninety five transfers and you're trying to gel ninety five
Speaker 6: different players. It doesn't work all the time.
Speaker 3: And who's the kid who's the typhenated name? And you
Speaker 3: thought another one, and you thought you got a very
Speaker 3: good one, very good one. May you saw me in
Speaker 3: the spring game over there. He had a pretty decent
Speaker 3: year last year. Decent, it is good word, somewhat decent.
Speaker 6: What happened this year disappeared, didn't even play the last
Speaker 6: five games.
Speaker 3: But my point is. That's why I don't like recruiting,
Speaker 3: because you can say, well, this guy, oh, he's set you.
Speaker 3: It's like with Daity, he's such a good guy, he's
Speaker 3: such a good he bought me dinner, and then a
Speaker 3: week later he's he's hating you or something. You know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying to the extreme of he's a good player,
Speaker 3: and then all of a sudden he gets on he
Speaker 3: can't play, he can't play, but we're giving him this money.
Speaker 3: It doesn't to me. To me, it's silly. Yeah, And
Speaker 3: you know, you do these recruiting evaluations. You know you're
Speaker 3: the Yeah, you're the problem. You're the problem.
Speaker 6: I'm not I'm not the problem. But we go through
Speaker 6: it in terms of you're evaluating these recruits. Oh, you
Speaker 6: know what, they have this good skill set, they need
Speaker 6: to work on this and this and this, and all
Speaker 6: of a sudden they're not even there come day one.
Speaker 6: So you did all that work of all these articles
Speaker 6: and evaluation and telling player people and fans of how
Speaker 6: good this player is are, how good he could be,
Speaker 6: and they're not even there week one.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a crazy time we live in. And that's
Speaker 5: that's why you see the coaches leaving, stepping down. It's
Speaker 5: not it's not my time anymore, time changing. But it's
Speaker 5: nice when you have people within the facilities that.
Speaker 3: Can help you.
Speaker 6: But they're also the product of it all though, Right,
Speaker 6: the money and everything and oh, you know what, we
Speaker 6: need to get these kids paid. Let's open everything up
Speaker 6: and okay, you opened up door's box. Here here's the result.
Speaker 2: Here you go.
Speaker 3: This is what everybody wanted. I don't know, you know exactly.
Speaker 3: I remember just yesterday. I think he was a coach
Speaker 3: of football coach. I don't remember where he was talking about.
Speaker 3: It's the more power to the kids, because you know
Speaker 3: they're benefiting, but the one who created this massively adults
Speaker 3: and now there's no there's no quick fix in sight.
Speaker 3: And then we talk about the the revenue share that's
Speaker 3: going to be. That's that's gonna be a message. Just
Speaker 3: from talking to you the last few days, I'm thinking,
Speaker 3: how is this gonna work? If my daughter played and
Speaker 3: she's not getting much or whatever, and she's working as
Speaker 3: hard as a football team or whatever, and I'm and
Speaker 3: I and they're getting this, and these guys are getting
Speaker 3: that and they're going three and eight.
Speaker 6: Yeah, because what what makes money on a campus evening.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, I get that. I get that. You
Speaker 3: know we're bringing in the revenue. But also if you're
Speaker 3: bringing the revenue better be damn good. It should be good.
Speaker 6: I remember coach Andrea used to say every now and
Speaker 6: then in this press conferences, I always hope football is
Speaker 6: good because the football is good. That means we get
Speaker 6: more revenue. Yeah, you you eat staball is better. Football
Speaker 6: is the better we are.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Everyone eats steak or whatever. Everyone gets to benefit
Speaker 3: from that. Yeah, and now who knows what the future
Speaker 3: and basketball too. You know, basketball is self sustaining or
Speaker 3: we thought it would be uh, the worst thing to
Speaker 3: happen to the city. The city could happen if the
Speaker 3: basketball team collapse. And not to say it it would,
Speaker 3: but god, fans like you who've grown up here, how
Speaker 3: bad would that be?
Speaker 5: Extremely bad? Because for most people that's one of the
Speaker 5: selling points of Tucson. You know, you don't have Arizona,
Speaker 5: but you don't have an NBA team. You don't have
Speaker 5: an NFL team, but you have Arizona basket.
Speaker 3: You have good weather, great weather, Yeah, very good. No, right,
Speaker 3: you have good weather, great weather. You have a little hot,
Speaker 3: and then you have Arizona basketball.
Speaker 6: What do they say if they have every football season
Speaker 6: when it doesn't go as ball? When's basketball, you can
Speaker 6: hear the basketball bounce, Well, now you can hear the
Speaker 6: bats I guess clinking for baseball.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I really don't know what's going forward to if you're
Speaker 3: an Arizona fan. Well, to be fair to guys, Arizona
Speaker 3: has has had a lot of steak recently past. Now,
Speaker 3: maybe that's one of these years where it's cyclical and
Speaker 3: it goes bad and they'll or if it continues to
Speaker 3: go bad, it continues to go bad. You can't you
Speaker 3: can't guarantee that it's not going to continue to go bad.
Speaker 6: Because I think this is the first time they're under
Speaker 6: and correct me if I'm wrong. There are under five hundred.
Speaker 6: This is Shawn Millers first season.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well his first season, right, because they were there
Speaker 3: were four and five.
Speaker 6: They finished I think they finished like fifteen sixteen with
Speaker 6: Derek a freshman.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that team wasn't supposed to be good. Yeah, this
Speaker 3: team was. Yeah, unless we all missed. And who do
Speaker 3: we know about the transfer portal? What do we know
Speaker 3: about the We don't know I mean, you're all speculating
Speaker 3: because it's e whether the media told you they're good
Speaker 3: or you're trusting Tommy's evaluation stuff. They're just not playing
Speaker 3: well together and they're not playing Arizona basketball.
Speaker 6: I think the biggest two things we talked about coming
Speaker 6: into this season was could creev Us step up and
Speaker 6: become a tougher guy?
Speaker 3: And fresh that we have two many So okay, go ahead,
Speaker 3: give your list.
Speaker 6: Crevas stepping up and becoming tougher upfront, okay, Jayden Bradley
Speaker 6: becoming a true point guard okay two and the development
Speaker 6: of the bigs behind Crevas.
Speaker 3: Okay, strike one two three, strike two, Strike three, and
Speaker 3: if you give me three more, Caleb being better and
Speaker 3: maybe better but less aggressive. Uh, there's so many Brent
Speaker 3: being good coming off the bench or whatever. Two. That's
Speaker 3: a zero for two there, and you can give me
Speaker 3: another third. The transfers coming in being halfway decent. I mean,
Speaker 3: come on, And if that's what we're talking about. All
Speaker 3: these things that you can come up with have been negatives.
Speaker 3: What's the one positive? Give me a positive, Give me hope.
Speaker 3: There is none, right, I mean, there's.
Speaker 6: No waka look stuff, Waka book stuff, their jerseys match.
Speaker 3: I don't know with that, I think we gotta go.
Speaker 3: We canna have breaking news, breaking news, and we'll talk
Speaker 3: more about all this obviously. On the other side, Bruce
Speaker 3: Pasco is gonna come out about four thirty ish for
Speaker 3: thirty IS Show. We'll be We'll see what we say
Speaker 3: then