WEBVTT 1 00:00:05.480 --> 00:00:08.560 Good evening, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to another edition 2 00:00:08.679 --> 00:00:11.119 of The Cajun Night Live. I am your host, Jacob 3 00:00:11.160 --> 00:00:13.119 Mook the Cajun Night. We got a couple of things 4 00:00:13.119 --> 00:00:16.079 we're gonna talk about tonight. Some things US related, something's 5 00:00:16.120 --> 00:00:19.239 international related. It's just kind of gonna be all over 6 00:00:19.280 --> 00:00:20.920 the place. I'm gonna go ahead and share the screen 7 00:00:20.960 --> 00:00:23.359 at this time. And if you would like to see 8 00:00:23.440 --> 00:00:26.039 the content and get the commercial free listening, then what 9 00:00:26.079 --> 00:00:27.239 you need to do is go to the link in 10 00:00:27.280 --> 00:00:30.359 the description below to the Cajun Night at Patreon. There's 11 00:00:30.359 --> 00:00:32.200 only one tier for entry. 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According to the Health Department, who posted 23 00:01:09.280 --> 00:01:12.879 on x Susan Monarez is no longer director of the 24 00:01:12.879 --> 00:01:15.640 Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. We thank her for 25 00:01:15.680 --> 00:01:18.599 her dedicated service to the American people. She has only 26 00:01:18.680 --> 00:01:20.920 led the agency for about a month. And remember, the 27 00:01:20.959 --> 00:01:24.120 agency is going through a lot of changes that we 28 00:01:24.159 --> 00:01:26.760 have been telling you about here under Health Secretary RFK Junior. 29 00:01:26.920 --> 00:01:29.680 We are learning, okay, so it's going through a lot 30 00:01:29.680 --> 00:01:32.359 of changes. Of course RFK is going to be implemented 31 00:01:32.359 --> 00:01:35.359 in this. But was he to blame for the removal? 32 00:01:35.920 --> 00:01:40.159 Was there more things about this individual, some scrupulous behavior 33 00:01:40.200 --> 00:01:42.319 that would lead to this. Let's talk about it here. 34 00:01:42.359 --> 00:01:45.159 This is from NBC News, And as we just heard, 35 00:01:45.280 --> 00:01:51.519 she's being removed, but CDC Director Suzanne Monarez will not resign, 36 00:01:52.040 --> 00:01:55.640 her lawyers say after Health Secretary moved to oust her. 37 00:01:56.640 --> 00:01:58.719 Matter of fact. Total, this is a two minute clip. 38 00:01:58.760 --> 00:02:00.879 It's actually I think a little bit further in depth 39 00:02:01.040 --> 00:02:03.040 from what we just heard about. And I do want 40 00:02:03.040 --> 00:02:04.159 to hear this and then we're going to read the 41 00:02:04.280 --> 00:02:05.560 article in detail. 42 00:02:06.480 --> 00:02:10.000 Let's listen in some breaking news just into us now. 43 00:02:10.039 --> 00:02:12.360 We are learning the newly installed director of the CDC 44 00:02:12.759 --> 00:02:14.960 is leaving the agency. According to the Health Department, who 45 00:02:14.960 --> 00:02:18.840 posted on x Susan Monarez is no longer director of 46 00:02:18.840 --> 00:02:21.560 the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. We thank her 47 00:02:21.560 --> 00:02:24.360 for her dedicated service to the American people. She has 48 00:02:24.400 --> 00:02:26.840 only led the agency for about a month. And remember 49 00:02:26.879 --> 00:02:30.039 the agency is going through a lot of changes that 50 00:02:30.080 --> 00:02:32.000 we have been telling you about here under Health Secretary 51 00:02:32.120 --> 00:02:34.639 RFK Junior, I want to bring in Berkeley Lovelace Junior, 52 00:02:34.639 --> 00:02:37.039 who's been following this for us, in joining us. Now 53 00:02:38.000 --> 00:02:41.159 do we know why Berkeley she is suddenly leaving the agency. 54 00:02:41.919 --> 00:02:44.280 Yeah, so we haven't been given a reason other than 55 00:02:44.280 --> 00:02:46.879 this tweet from HHS that she is no longer at 56 00:02:46.879 --> 00:02:50.479 the agency. And this just comes just weeks after gunman 57 00:02:50.599 --> 00:02:54.240 opened fire at the agency's headquarters in Atlanta, which left 58 00:02:54.240 --> 00:02:57.280 one police officer dead. We were told that she did 59 00:02:57.319 --> 00:02:59.919 plan a meeting, an agency wide meeting for Monday, but 60 00:03:00.080 --> 00:03:03.159 then that was abruptly canceled as well. And this also 61 00:03:03.199 --> 00:03:06.199 comes today when RFK Junior announced that there would be 62 00:03:06.360 --> 00:03:09.639 restrictions for the upcoming COVID shots for the fall as well. 63 00:03:09.680 --> 00:03:13.919 So we're not exactly sure why she was ousted. She 64 00:03:14.240 --> 00:03:18.240 did join that she was confirmed in late July, and 65 00:03:18.280 --> 00:03:20.520 she's been a long time government scientist. 66 00:03:20.840 --> 00:03:23.199 So walk us through how this kind of fits into 67 00:03:23.280 --> 00:03:25.800 all the changes that we have been seeing happening at 68 00:03:25.800 --> 00:03:26.639 the Health Department. 69 00:03:27.479 --> 00:03:30.520 Yeah, so, Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Junior has been 70 00:03:30.560 --> 00:03:34.719 criticized over his moves on vaccines, and also in June 71 00:03:34.800 --> 00:03:37.680 he replaced all members of the Sinners for Disease Control 72 00:03:37.759 --> 00:03:41.840 Prevention Vaccine Advisory Panel that's what makes recommendations for vaccines 73 00:03:42.439 --> 00:03:45.960 and insurance companies are forced to recover. So it's unclear 74 00:03:46.000 --> 00:03:49.159 whether or not monoas agreed with those decisions as well. 75 00:03:49.400 --> 00:03:51.800 Of course, there will be some upcoming decisions about the 76 00:03:51.800 --> 00:03:55.120 COVID shots in the next few weeks as well. There 77 00:03:55.120 --> 00:03:59.039 are also some research going on about potential links of autism. 78 00:03:59.400 --> 00:04:03.039 There are some rumblings that Kennedy will either could find 79 00:04:03.520 --> 00:04:07.360 potential leaks between vaccines which have been thoroughly debunked. So 80 00:04:07.479 --> 00:04:12.159 right now it's it's very unclear. Also, a source, Erica Edwards, 81 00:04:12.159 --> 00:04:15.639 our colleague, has also just discovered that three other CDC 82 00:04:15.719 --> 00:04:19.839 leaders have also just resigned as well following Moneris disaster. 83 00:04:20.360 --> 00:04:22.759 Berkeley, Lovelace, thank you appreciate it, Thanks for being on 84 00:04:22.759 --> 00:04:23.240 this Berkeley. 85 00:04:23.839 --> 00:04:28.240 All right, So a direct quote here. CDC Director Suzanne 86 00:04:28.240 --> 00:04:33.680 Monarez refuse to rubber stamp unscientific, reckless directives and fire 87 00:04:33.800 --> 00:04:38.199 dedicated health experts. She chose protecting the public over serving 88 00:04:38.279 --> 00:04:42.680 a political agenda, said her lawyers, Mark Zaid and Abe 89 00:04:42.839 --> 00:04:45.959 David Lowell. Let's dive in a little deeper here. So 90 00:04:46.519 --> 00:04:47.879 just for the record here, and I don't know if 91 00:04:47.920 --> 00:04:49.199 this article is going to bring it up or not. 92 00:04:49.279 --> 00:04:52.120 I did a little more digging into her specifically. She 93 00:04:52.199 --> 00:04:56.360 has a PhD in microbiology and immunization. She has been 94 00:04:56.399 --> 00:04:58.680 in this field, not necessarily for the CDC, but she 95 00:04:58.720 --> 00:05:01.920 has been in this field for a very long time. She, 96 00:05:02.639 --> 00:05:04.879 as far as I can tell, has a very decent 97 00:05:04.959 --> 00:05:09.160 track record as a medical professional. Now that has nothing 98 00:05:09.160 --> 00:05:11.079 to do with political leanings, That has nothing to do 99 00:05:11.160 --> 00:05:13.680 with conspiracy theories or anything like that. I'm saying as 100 00:05:13.720 --> 00:05:17.160 a doctor, I could find no red flags initially to 101 00:05:17.319 --> 00:05:20.040 say that this woman was not about her business. That 102 00:05:20.199 --> 00:05:23.120 being said, let's read The Center for Disease Control and 103 00:05:23.120 --> 00:05:26.720 Prevention leadership is in a stunning disarray Wednesday, evening after 104 00:05:26.759 --> 00:05:30.160 the nation's top health official, RFK Junior, appeared to force 105 00:05:30.199 --> 00:05:33.319 out it the agency's director, only for her to refuse 106 00:05:33.399 --> 00:05:36.040 to resign. So he's forcing her out and then she's like, 107 00:05:36.079 --> 00:05:38.360 I will not resign. He's like, cool, don't worry about 108 00:05:38.360 --> 00:05:42.199 her resignation, just leave. The director, Suzanne Monarez, said she 109 00:05:42.480 --> 00:05:45.399 was being ousted after about a month in office, not 110 00:05:45.560 --> 00:05:48.439 even a full month, by the way, for political reasons 111 00:05:48.439 --> 00:05:51.319 by the Trump administration. Direct quote here when the CDC 112 00:05:51.439 --> 00:05:54.079 director Suzanne Monarez refused to rubber stamp. Oh, we already 113 00:05:54.079 --> 00:05:56.360 read that one. All right, cool, doctor Monares has neither 114 00:05:56.399 --> 00:05:59.519 resigned nor received notification from the White House that she 115 00:05:59.560 --> 00:06:03.079 has been and as a person of integrity and devoted society, 116 00:06:03.079 --> 00:06:05.720 she will not resign. The attorney, who did not return 117 00:06:05.759 --> 00:06:09.000 a request for comment, added, shocker. You would think that 118 00:06:09.040 --> 00:06:12.160 they would write for something so public and so out 119 00:06:12.160 --> 00:06:14.040 there in the public eye like this. You would think 120 00:06:14.040 --> 00:06:17.279 that the lawyers would give statements to reporters to try 121 00:06:17.279 --> 00:06:19.600 to make this as loud and messy as possible. But 122 00:06:19.920 --> 00:06:22.920 all right. Their statement came hours after the Department of 123 00:06:22.920 --> 00:06:26.240 Health and Human Services, which oversees the CDC and which 124 00:06:26.360 --> 00:06:29.199 Kennedy leads said in a post on x that she 125 00:06:29.360 --> 00:06:31.920 is no longer director of the agency. Would think of 126 00:06:31.959 --> 00:06:35.519 her dedicated service to the American people that sparked a 127 00:06:35.600 --> 00:06:39.360 near immediate leadership exodus from the CDC, which is charged 128 00:06:39.360 --> 00:06:43.199 with the safekeeping the public health for excuse me, is 129 00:06:43.279 --> 00:06:45.920 charged with safe keeping the public health of more than 130 00:06:45.959 --> 00:06:51.360 three hundred million people in America. Three other leaders in 131 00:06:51.399 --> 00:06:56.680 the CDC. I wouldn't call that a leadership exodus. That's 132 00:06:56.839 --> 00:06:59.360 just me personally. I think there might be making a 133 00:06:59.399 --> 00:07:01.639 little bit more that, But then again, I don't know 134 00:07:01.639 --> 00:07:03.759 if that was just an initial three that says of shigo, 135 00:07:03.920 --> 00:07:06.920 we go, and they took off and more followed. You know, 136 00:07:06.959 --> 00:07:09.160 this is still breaking news as far as this goes. 137 00:07:09.959 --> 00:07:12.560 At least four top officials announced excuse me, not three. 138 00:07:12.759 --> 00:07:17.759 Four top officials announced their resignations, including doctor Deborah Oweri, 139 00:07:18.199 --> 00:07:22.439 the Chief Medical Officer, doctor Dimitri dosca Lakis, director of 140 00:07:22.480 --> 00:07:26.680 the National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Disease, doctor Daniel Jernigan, 141 00:07:27.079 --> 00:07:33.199 director of National Center for Emerging in Zoonautic Infectious Disease. 142 00:07:33.959 --> 00:07:36.560 That's a word I've never seen before, dope, and doctor 143 00:07:36.600 --> 00:07:39.720 Jen Leyden, Director of the Office of Public Health, Data, Surveillance, 144 00:07:39.759 --> 00:07:44.639 and Technology. Kennedy, a longtime anti vaccine activist, has been 145 00:07:44.800 --> 00:07:48.519 controversial of controversial figure to lead the country's health agencies. 146 00:07:48.759 --> 00:07:51.519 He has cut five hundred million in contracts focused on 147 00:07:51.639 --> 00:07:56.360 developing mRNA vaccines, drawing sharp criticism from the scientific community 148 00:07:56.360 --> 00:07:59.800 and former government officials, and under his guidance, HHS has 149 00:07:59.839 --> 00:08:03.079 made made a number of vaccine policy decisions that limit 150 00:08:03.160 --> 00:08:06.120 access to vaccines or call vaccine safety into question. In 151 00:08:06.160 --> 00:08:08.519 recent weeks, some of those sentiments were echoed by the 152 00:08:08.560 --> 00:08:12.959 officials who resigned. In his resignation letter, des Galakis, I 153 00:08:12.959 --> 00:08:16.240 hope I nailed that, wrote quote, I am not able 154 00:08:16.279 --> 00:08:18.920 to serve in this role any longer because of the 155 00:08:18.959 --> 00:08:23.160 ongoing weaponization of public health or weaponizing of public health, 156 00:08:23.199 --> 00:08:26.160 I should say, our easer, I hope that's how you 157 00:08:26.160 --> 00:08:29.759 pronounce that. One auri's resignation letter spoke about the continued 158 00:08:29.800 --> 00:08:35.159 spread of misinformation around vaccines. Another quote, Recently, the overstating 159 00:08:35.360 --> 00:08:38.320 of risks of vaccines and the rise of misinformation have 160 00:08:38.440 --> 00:08:41.919 cost lives, as demonstrated by the highest number of US 161 00:08:41.919 --> 00:08:44.879 measles cases in thirty years. In the violent attack on 162 00:08:45.080 --> 00:08:48.639 our agency, she wrote. The CDC staffers said they were 163 00:08:48.639 --> 00:08:51.159 shocked by the developments. This is a direct quote, again 164 00:08:51.200 --> 00:08:55.159 from the CDC staffer who requested anonymity for fear of retaliation. 165 00:08:55.559 --> 00:08:58.200 These guys are the best in the business. They know 166 00:08:58.279 --> 00:09:01.679 their stuff. I'm stunned how fast this all happened. The 167 00:09:01.720 --> 00:09:04.639 departures came at a tumultuous time for the agency. On 168 00:09:04.720 --> 00:09:07.600 August eighth, a gunman shattered windows of six buildings in 169 00:09:07.639 --> 00:09:10.360 the CDC campus in Atlanta. A police officer died in 170 00:09:10.360 --> 00:09:12.799 the shooting. Several days after the shooting, Monarez sought to 171 00:09:12.840 --> 00:09:16.080 reassure staffers during a virtual meeting. Is a quote from 172 00:09:16.080 --> 00:09:19.440 her during the meeting. We know that misinformation can be dangerous, 173 00:09:19.919 --> 00:09:22.960 not only to health, but to those that trust us 174 00:09:23.000 --> 00:09:26.360 and those we want to trust. We need to rebuild 175 00:09:26.440 --> 00:09:30.399 this trust together. The CDC employees said that although Monarez 176 00:09:30.799 --> 00:09:33.960 hadn't been in leadership for long, it quote seemed like 177 00:09:34.000 --> 00:09:37.200 she was a fairly strong advocate for CDC employees and 178 00:09:37.240 --> 00:09:39.639 she was the only one to take the shooting seriously. 179 00:09:40.919 --> 00:09:44.480 She was the only one to take the shooting seriously. 180 00:09:45.919 --> 00:09:49.320 That's an interesting direct quote from an anonymous source. Okay. 181 00:09:50.159 --> 00:09:53.159 President Trump has not made any public statements about the shooting. 182 00:09:53.360 --> 00:09:56.120 In March, Trump picked Monerez as the nominee to head 183 00:09:56.120 --> 00:10:00.320 the CDC. Monrez's previous work involved using artificial intel legence 184 00:10:00.360 --> 00:10:04.480 to improve health, of course it did. Before joining the CDC, 185 00:10:04.639 --> 00:10:08.240 Monrez was deputy director of the Advanced Research Project's Agency 186 00:10:08.240 --> 00:10:12.679 for Health, a research funding agency focused on biomedical innovations. 187 00:10:13.440 --> 00:10:17.759 The Senate confirmed her nomination in late July. Last Friday, 188 00:10:18.120 --> 00:10:20.639 Monarez canceled a meeting with the CDC staff members that 189 00:10:20.720 --> 00:10:23.080 had been scheduled for Monday. The focus of the meeting 190 00:10:23.120 --> 00:10:25.720 was going to be safety concerns and security enhancements after 191 00:10:25.720 --> 00:10:29.080 the shooting, quoting here from her, Unfortunately, we need to 192 00:10:29.120 --> 00:10:32.120 postpone Monday's event for an HHS meeting that I have 193 00:10:32.159 --> 00:10:34.879 been asked to attend in person in DC, she wrote 194 00:10:34.919 --> 00:10:39.279 in an email to the CDC staff members. Doctor Mandy Cohen, 195 00:10:39.360 --> 00:10:42.679 a former CDC director under President Biden, said quote, we 196 00:10:42.759 --> 00:10:46.279 lost exceptional leaders who have served over many decades and 197 00:10:46.360 --> 00:10:49.759 many administrations. The weakening of the CDC leaves us less 198 00:10:49.799 --> 00:10:53.960 safe and more vulnerable as a country. Michael Osterholm, an 199 00:10:53.960 --> 00:10:56.879 infectious disease expert, and the director of the Center for 200 00:10:57.000 --> 00:11:00.799 Infectious Disease Research and Policy at the Universe of Minnesota 201 00:11:00.879 --> 00:11:03.559 said in a statement that the departures are a serious 202 00:11:03.600 --> 00:11:07.279 loss for America. The loss of experienced, world class infectious 203 00:11:07.279 --> 00:11:10.039 disease experts at the CDC is directly related to the 204 00:11:10.039 --> 00:11:12.799 failed leadership of extremists currently in charge of the Department 205 00:11:12.840 --> 00:11:16.080 of Health and Human Services. Ulster Home is launching the 206 00:11:16.240 --> 00:11:22.159 Vaccine Integrity Project cool that's a if that's not a 207 00:11:22.200 --> 00:11:27.440 loaded title as a potential alternative to the CDC's Advisory 208 00:11:27.440 --> 00:11:32.200 Committee on Immunization Practices. In June, Kennedy fired all seventeen 209 00:11:32.320 --> 00:11:36.240 ACIP members and replaced them with his own picks, including 210 00:11:36.320 --> 00:11:43.120 several COVID vaccine skeptics. Yep, we could talk for forever 211 00:11:43.240 --> 00:11:45.320 on that, all right. If Monterrez is pushed out, the 212 00:11:45.320 --> 00:11:47.600 agency will return to the leader list state it has 213 00:11:47.679 --> 00:11:50.000 been in for the majority of the new Trump administration. 214 00:11:50.320 --> 00:11:54.279 Trump's original pick for director, David doctor David Weldon, was 215 00:11:54.320 --> 00:11:58.480 pulled from consideration hours before his confirmation hearing in March. Weldon, 216 00:11:58.559 --> 00:12:02.039 a forming former congres from Florida, had a history of 217 00:12:02.120 --> 00:12:06.279 questioning vaccine safety. Manaas briefly served as the agency's acting 218 00:12:06.320 --> 00:12:12.000 director before she was nominated in Weldon's place. So all right, 219 00:12:12.080 --> 00:12:14.960 So again, I don't know, there's still more that's going 220 00:12:15.000 --> 00:12:17.159 to be coming out about this as time goes on, 221 00:12:17.279 --> 00:12:19.200 but this is kind of one of those hot off 222 00:12:19.200 --> 00:12:22.240 the presses. As of time of recording, we don't know 223 00:12:22.480 --> 00:12:24.759 if there was something that was said, some sort of 224 00:12:24.799 --> 00:12:28.519 an email chain that indicated that she would not be 225 00:12:28.559 --> 00:12:30.919 a quote unquote team player or whatever the case was. 226 00:12:31.600 --> 00:12:33.559 Like I said, as far as her career goes, she 227 00:12:33.720 --> 00:12:37.440 seems to be pretty much on her game. So for 228 00:12:37.480 --> 00:12:41.240 them to remove her in such a way, of course, 229 00:12:41.240 --> 00:12:44.440 it's gonna have to be connected to vaccines. And I 230 00:12:44.440 --> 00:12:46.759 didn't think AI was gonna get a plug on that one. 231 00:12:46.799 --> 00:12:52.200 But all right, cool, But yeah, COVID allegedly COVID is 232 00:12:52.279 --> 00:12:56.840 back on the menu. I personally know of one kid 233 00:12:56.840 --> 00:13:00.960 that had COVID here recently. Of course he's fine. It 234 00:13:01.039 --> 00:13:03.679 was about three days of him feeling like hell, and 235 00:13:03.720 --> 00:13:06.720 now he's back in action. No vaccines, I should add, 236 00:13:06.840 --> 00:13:10.120 and I know it's a shock or no shots or 237 00:13:10.159 --> 00:13:12.759 any of these things. He just you know, his body's 238 00:13:12.799 --> 00:13:16.200 immunity just kind of fought back because COVID is essentially 239 00:13:16.279 --> 00:13:19.799 another type of version of the flu by another name. 240 00:13:20.639 --> 00:13:22.559 It's not the exact same thing, and I understand that, 241 00:13:22.600 --> 00:13:26.000 but your body fights it about the same way. And yeah, 242 00:13:26.039 --> 00:13:28.279 so that's the thing that I'm hearing more and more about. 243 00:13:28.320 --> 00:13:30.320 Oh well, this COVID season is coming up, and I'm like, 244 00:13:31.000 --> 00:13:33.799 since when is COVID season in the fall, the summer 245 00:13:33.840 --> 00:13:36.039 to fall time. I always thought that what we were 246 00:13:36.080 --> 00:13:38.519 told for forever was that it was a springtime thing, 247 00:13:38.919 --> 00:13:42.399 the same as all other types of sicknesses and ailments 248 00:13:42.399 --> 00:13:45.440 that come winner to springtime, summer to fall. I was 249 00:13:45.639 --> 00:13:48.799 unaware that this was the new COVID season. But hey, 250 00:13:48.840 --> 00:13:51.120 here we are. Maybe it's some new variant. Maybe they've 251 00:13:51.600 --> 00:13:53.360 what are they on right now? Have they run out 252 00:13:53.399 --> 00:13:55.519 of the Greek alphabet and now they're on to something else? 253 00:13:56.159 --> 00:14:01.360 I don't know, But anyway, Susan Monrez is out. There's 254 00:14:01.639 --> 00:14:04.399 some obvious issues that are to be said with this, 255 00:14:04.519 --> 00:14:08.279 and of course, because RFK is involved in the Trump administration, 256 00:14:08.559 --> 00:14:11.080 it's clearly going to get pointed at them that they 257 00:14:11.080 --> 00:14:14.200 are just taking out the good people and they don't 258 00:14:14.240 --> 00:14:16.600 care about your health and all of these things. I 259 00:14:16.600 --> 00:14:19.399 don't know where the truth and lies start and end 260 00:14:19.440 --> 00:14:22.240 with that. Again, this is very new, but I did 261 00:14:22.279 --> 00:14:26.600 think it was worth mentioning on our conversation tonight, Royce, 262 00:14:26.720 --> 00:14:27.200 go ahead. 263 00:14:28.159 --> 00:14:28.919 I just love a question. 264 00:14:28.960 --> 00:14:32.000 So in the article you were reading and mentioned the 265 00:14:32.159 --> 00:14:35.000 spike and measle, please tell me what measles has to 266 00:14:35.000 --> 00:14:35.639 do with COVID. 267 00:14:36.600 --> 00:14:40.799 So the anti vaccine rhetoric, using their words not mine, 268 00:14:41.480 --> 00:14:44.039 is basically saying that you shouldn't be giving any of 269 00:14:44.039 --> 00:14:49.240 your children any vaccines, including the measles, the mumps, the smallpox, 270 00:14:49.279 --> 00:14:51.279 the name your shit, which most people don't even get 271 00:14:51.279 --> 00:14:53.559 small pox immunizations unless they're going somewhere where they need it. 272 00:14:53.600 --> 00:14:56.320 But my point is there is a school of thought 273 00:14:56.639 --> 00:14:59.559 that I don't necessarily disagree with for the record to 274 00:14:59.639 --> 00:15:01.919 say that that you don't need to give your children 275 00:15:02.320 --> 00:15:07.399 measles vaccines because when measles was killing people way way 276 00:15:07.440 --> 00:15:10.720 way back, our medical technology wasn't in the best position, 277 00:15:10.840 --> 00:15:14.519 and measles could be potentially deadly these days if your 278 00:15:14.600 --> 00:15:18.320 child was to contract measles, heaven forbid. We have a 279 00:15:18.360 --> 00:15:21.279 medical system now and medical technology to where you could 280 00:15:21.320 --> 00:15:23.559 just let it ride its course and your kid'll be 281 00:15:23.600 --> 00:15:27.080 fine more often than not, so they're bringing that up, 282 00:15:27.080 --> 00:15:29.080 and it's actually funny that you asked about this. I 283 00:15:29.279 --> 00:15:33.320 just learned this. There was a measles spike that happened 284 00:15:33.320 --> 00:15:37.360 in American Samoa not too terribly long ago, and anti 285 00:15:37.440 --> 00:15:40.840 vaxxers use this as like one of their big talking 286 00:15:40.919 --> 00:15:46.159 points in this conversation. They for lack of better words, 287 00:15:46.200 --> 00:15:49.840 there was two kids on the island that died as 288 00:15:49.879 --> 00:15:55.440 a result of measles vaccines. For the record, it wasn't 289 00:15:55.440 --> 00:15:58.399 the vaccine that killed them. The needles that they got 290 00:15:58.399 --> 00:16:03.519 injected with actually through a very chain freak accident chain 291 00:16:03.519 --> 00:16:08.600 of events was actually full of muscle relaxers instead of 292 00:16:08.639 --> 00:16:12.960 the vaccine, and nobody realized that until much later. So 293 00:16:13.159 --> 00:16:16.279 these kids contracted measles and they died. The muscle relaxers 294 00:16:16.320 --> 00:16:20.200 did not help that situation. So the island as a whole, 295 00:16:20.240 --> 00:16:22.679 because of the very tight knit community, decided they were 296 00:16:22.720 --> 00:16:25.399 no longer going to be vaccinating their children. There was 297 00:16:25.440 --> 00:16:29.679 a rise in deaths associated with the measles, and by 298 00:16:29.679 --> 00:16:33.600 a rise, I mean it was it was noticeable. The 299 00:16:33.639 --> 00:16:36.200 island went from I think it was like eighty five 300 00:16:36.240 --> 00:16:40.200 percent vaccinated to like children from like five to newborns 301 00:16:40.559 --> 00:16:43.519 to like fifty five percent, and there was some more 302 00:16:43.639 --> 00:16:46.200 kids that did end up contracting measles. There was a 303 00:16:46.240 --> 00:16:51.120 few more deaths, and it was not misinformation, but it 304 00:16:51.279 --> 00:16:55.039 was a chain of events and some mistakes that were made. 305 00:16:55.120 --> 00:16:58.320 And it's very hard to make people forget whenever they 306 00:16:58.360 --> 00:17:01.080 saw these kids got vaccinated and they died. Clearly it 307 00:17:01.120 --> 00:17:02.639 was the vaccines that did it, and it kind of 308 00:17:02.679 --> 00:17:08.680 got spun out of control. But you know, listen for 309 00:17:08.759 --> 00:17:11.480 any parents out there that are questioning if you should 310 00:17:11.559 --> 00:17:15.480 or should not vaccinate your children, do your own research 311 00:17:16.200 --> 00:17:19.839 and talk to people that have vaccine injured children, and 312 00:17:19.880 --> 00:17:22.880 then talk to those that have non vaccine injured children 313 00:17:23.319 --> 00:17:25.079 and make your own decision. I'm not going to tell 314 00:17:25.119 --> 00:17:26.960 you what is and is not the correct way to 315 00:17:27.000 --> 00:17:30.039 go about it. I have heard both sides of the argument, 316 00:17:30.079 --> 00:17:33.240 and I think there's valid points on both sides. But yeah, 317 00:17:33.880 --> 00:17:35.680 that's the thing, I don't even realize. I don't know 318 00:17:35.720 --> 00:17:38.279 if this had anything to do with COVID or is 319 00:17:38.319 --> 00:17:40.720 this because she was going to talk about real medical 320 00:17:40.759 --> 00:17:45.240 science and RFK talks about other real medical science. That 321 00:17:45.359 --> 00:17:48.359 just disagreed. But Trump is the one that appointed her. 322 00:17:48.960 --> 00:17:51.839 So it doesn't make sense to me out loud, but yeah, 323 00:17:51.839 --> 00:17:54.920 they bringing up measles to be like another buzzword in 324 00:17:54.960 --> 00:17:58.599 the conversation anything CDC and vaccine. We got to bring 325 00:17:58.720 --> 00:18:01.880 up the Spanish flui. You gotta bring up the measles 326 00:18:01.920 --> 00:18:04.519 and mumps and tuberculosis and all these other things that 327 00:18:04.559 --> 00:18:08.640 don't have anything to do with anything. But yeah, Raven, 328 00:18:08.680 --> 00:18:10.200 I see your hand raise, go ahead. 329 00:18:12.319 --> 00:18:15.119 A couple of things with this. So, like, I've talked 330 00:18:15.119 --> 00:18:19.960 about my stance on vaccines many times, but I think 331 00:18:20.079 --> 00:18:24.359 that it's interesting that the measles conversation keeps being brought 332 00:18:24.440 --> 00:18:28.640 up because now there's been several small pockets of quote 333 00:18:28.720 --> 00:18:33.480 unquote outbreaks of measles here in America where there's like 334 00:18:33.519 --> 00:18:36.759 one hundred and fifty people had measles in one community, 335 00:18:37.240 --> 00:18:42.440 and they're using that as Rederick of, well, look now 336 00:18:42.480 --> 00:18:45.039 this is because of all the anti vaxxers. This is 337 00:18:45.079 --> 00:18:47.839 gonna sweep it's coming back, it's gonna sweep the country. 338 00:18:48.519 --> 00:18:51.559 And I guess the big question, like the big thing 339 00:18:51.599 --> 00:18:55.240 that both sides of this stance should really be discussing 340 00:18:55.960 --> 00:19:01.279 is why can't we have vaccines that are safe, right, Like, 341 00:19:01.880 --> 00:19:05.279 that's a big push with a lot of the anti 342 00:19:05.359 --> 00:19:09.799 vaxxer like staunch in their no vaccines period, which I 343 00:19:09.880 --> 00:19:13.440 also am heavily against vaccines, but I also think that 344 00:19:14.480 --> 00:19:18.680 with them done correctly, they could be beneficial to war 345 00:19:18.799 --> 00:19:21.759 off a lot of you know, issues that have killed 346 00:19:22.119 --> 00:19:24.559 lots and lots of people. At the same time, the 347 00:19:24.599 --> 00:19:27.559 Black Death is you know, making its round right now, 348 00:19:29.200 --> 00:19:32.519 but if you actually read into it, it's now has 349 00:19:32.680 --> 00:19:35.839 a tally of twenty five people dead in the last 350 00:19:36.240 --> 00:19:38.680 I think it's like seventy five hang on seventy five 351 00:19:38.759 --> 00:19:44.160 years and it's there's three types of plague actually, But 352 00:19:44.720 --> 00:19:48.720 this big push with the plague is a conversation that 353 00:19:48.759 --> 00:19:52.160 a lot of people are having right now that like 354 00:19:52.640 --> 00:19:57.279 this is because of the anti vaxxers and because RFK 355 00:19:57.559 --> 00:20:00.559 has shed so much light on and a lot of 356 00:20:00.559 --> 00:20:02.759 the things and opening the door for at least having 357 00:20:02.759 --> 00:20:06.240 the conversations of like, hey, the way that vaccines are 358 00:20:06.240 --> 00:20:11.279 made are not safe, and us having seventy seven plus 359 00:20:12.000 --> 00:20:16.119 vaccines for children under the age of twelve is not okay. 360 00:20:16.279 --> 00:20:18.880 Look at our rates verse, look at the rates across 361 00:20:18.960 --> 00:20:23.559 the ocean of what at like, you know, just autoimmune. 362 00:20:23.599 --> 00:20:29.079 Let's take autism off off the table. Autoimmune diseases. We 363 00:20:29.279 --> 00:20:33.519 are substantially more susceptible to them than any other country 364 00:20:33.519 --> 00:20:38.039 in the world. Our children are skyrocketing with them. But 365 00:20:38.880 --> 00:20:41.400 no one wants to wonder, like maybe what it is. 366 00:20:42.079 --> 00:20:44.400 And I think this whole thing about this lady, like 367 00:20:44.440 --> 00:20:48.839 I don't doubt she has amazing credentials. It could be 368 00:20:49.000 --> 00:20:53.319 that they have a disagreement about what's being said. You know, 369 00:20:53.400 --> 00:20:57.000 a lot of a lot of the people in the 370 00:20:57.039 --> 00:21:01.960 community that are actually immunologists, they are paid through big 371 00:21:02.000 --> 00:21:05.960 pharma because like they get funded that all their projects 372 00:21:06.039 --> 00:21:08.400 are funded by a big pharma and if they don't 373 00:21:08.440 --> 00:21:11.319 report a certain way, then they get cut and you 374 00:21:11.359 --> 00:21:13.799 can always trace the money back and how the programs 375 00:21:13.839 --> 00:21:16.519 are done and what they're reporting on, and damn near 376 00:21:16.640 --> 00:21:18.720 most of the people that have actually come out and 377 00:21:18.759 --> 00:21:22.200 try to link vaccines with some type of injury have 378 00:21:22.400 --> 00:21:25.599 managed to end up dead in various ways. Like oh 379 00:21:25.720 --> 00:21:28.240 boy that shot himself in the back of the head 380 00:21:28.279 --> 00:21:30.640 and drove in a pond thirty miles down the road 381 00:21:30.640 --> 00:21:35.119 in the opposite direction on his fortieth anniversary, Like it's 382 00:21:35.200 --> 00:21:38.680 you know, like there's a lot to it, but I 383 00:21:38.720 --> 00:21:42.480 think that opening the door up to those conversations is important. 384 00:21:42.839 --> 00:21:46.400 But I think they're using measles as a big step now. 385 00:21:46.440 --> 00:21:48.960 The black plague quote unquote, but there's three types of 386 00:21:49.000 --> 00:21:51.839 the category of plague, and not one person has actually 387 00:21:51.920 --> 00:21:55.359 had the bubonic plague yet, but it still is around 388 00:21:55.359 --> 00:21:58.240 though globally it's been around. It's still happening like every year, 389 00:21:58.279 --> 00:22:01.240 there's like five hundred deaths. It's never gone away, it's 390 00:22:01.319 --> 00:22:05.000 just gone down significantly, not killing twenty five million of 391 00:22:05.160 --> 00:22:06.559 you know, people in Europe. 392 00:22:06.559 --> 00:22:09.960 So fair. But then even like the bubonic plague for instance, 393 00:22:10.000 --> 00:22:13.480 if I'm not mistaken, they now know that if you 394 00:22:13.640 --> 00:22:17.680 just tend to the wounds and keep them hydrated like 395 00:22:17.759 --> 00:22:21.640 your body, is probably likely to fight off the infection. 396 00:22:22.160 --> 00:22:24.720 The reason why the bubonic plague was so bad back 397 00:22:24.759 --> 00:22:28.640 when it was terrorizing Europe is because the people pretty 398 00:22:28.680 --> 00:22:32.000 much just left them, like to their own devices and 399 00:22:32.119 --> 00:22:34.680 just let them die slowly for the most part. And 400 00:22:34.720 --> 00:22:38.559 if I'm not mistaken, like a lot of the inoculation practices, 401 00:22:39.319 --> 00:22:41.240 I'm not saying got rid of it by any means, 402 00:22:41.240 --> 00:22:45.519 but especially with our medical technology today, yes, deaths do happen. 403 00:22:45.720 --> 00:22:48.599 I'm not going to deny that, but by and large, 404 00:22:48.680 --> 00:22:51.720 a outbreak of the bubonic plague would not be nearly 405 00:22:51.759 --> 00:22:54.440 as detrimental to our society today as it was to 406 00:22:54.759 --> 00:22:55.880 you know, medieval Europe. 407 00:22:57.640 --> 00:22:59.920 No, I mean, I think it was like eighty percent. 408 00:23:00.079 --> 00:23:03.720 And of the play cases have been from the Buon 409 00:23:04.039 --> 00:23:07.119 plague in the US like over the course of time, 410 00:23:09.039 --> 00:23:11.759 but like as right now, there's like a guy that 411 00:23:12.440 --> 00:23:16.279 contracted it in California and then another one that died 412 00:23:16.720 --> 00:23:22.880 in Arizona, but currently those aren't the black plague themselves. 413 00:23:23.279 --> 00:23:26.480 But it's the one thing that anyone should be worried 414 00:23:26.519 --> 00:23:31.920 about is tuberculosis because that's actually well that's been the silent, 415 00:23:32.279 --> 00:23:36.680 silent riser, and like that's actually technically it's an epidemic 416 00:23:36.759 --> 00:23:38.599 right now, and it has been for the last like 417 00:23:38.960 --> 00:23:42.240 almost two years, and it's been rising more and more, 418 00:23:42.319 --> 00:23:45.640 not just in America but all over the place, and 419 00:23:45.759 --> 00:23:50.359 people are just kind of like, eh, it's whatever. Ye wait, 420 00:23:50.480 --> 00:23:54.359 So we're not concerned about the thing that actually kills people, 421 00:23:54.720 --> 00:23:58.000 but we're concerned about COVID, which we know is manufactured 422 00:23:58.079 --> 00:24:02.599 and released and these statistics have been skewed, so vastly. 423 00:24:03.039 --> 00:24:05.000 I don't understand people's logic. 424 00:24:05.480 --> 00:24:08.799 I don't either. I remember talking about that back in 425 00:24:08.839 --> 00:24:13.079 twenty twenty one, the early days of the cult conspiracy. 426 00:24:13.119 --> 00:24:16.440 In twenty twenty or twenty nineteen, I forget the year. 427 00:24:17.000 --> 00:24:21.079 Tuberculos has killed one point five million people globally. That 428 00:24:21.200 --> 00:24:24.759 is an actual epidemic by any metrics and standards if 429 00:24:24.759 --> 00:24:27.680 you look at the numbers, But somehow COVID and wearing 430 00:24:27.720 --> 00:24:29.839 masks and all these jabs, and even if you look 431 00:24:29.880 --> 00:24:33.440 at the most generous towards COVID statistics that there are 432 00:24:33.480 --> 00:24:36.440 of how many actual deaths were associated. Now, I don't 433 00:24:36.440 --> 00:24:39.160 mean a car wreck that happened and this person might 434 00:24:39.160 --> 00:24:41.039 have been sick from COVID, so it's considered a COVID 435 00:24:41.079 --> 00:24:43.079 related to death. I don't mean that. I mean people 436 00:24:43.119 --> 00:24:47.759 that were actually dying, confirmed from the infection itself. And 437 00:24:47.799 --> 00:24:52.559 you compare that at its peak to anything from tuberculosis 438 00:24:52.559 --> 00:24:56.400 over the last decade, it's not even a comparison. We're 439 00:24:56.680 --> 00:24:58.839 not even we're talking about comparing a grape to a 440 00:24:58.960 --> 00:25:03.440 watermelon by all metrics. Somehow, no one cares about TV 441 00:25:04.000 --> 00:25:06.799 that's been around four forever. Hell, it killed doc holiday, 442 00:25:07.839 --> 00:25:10.359 nobody's really just talking about it. Those just one of 443 00:25:10.400 --> 00:25:12.240 those things. Go ahead, Royce. 444 00:25:13.359 --> 00:25:18.200 So two quick things. So one is a question can 445 00:25:19.000 --> 00:25:27.160 tb be given like COVID? So if COVID was planned, right, 446 00:25:27.680 --> 00:25:28.680 so can't. 447 00:25:28.799 --> 00:25:32.319 The first question is can can t be be given 448 00:25:32.319 --> 00:25:32.960 out like that? 449 00:25:33.400 --> 00:25:36.400 Because if it can't, maybe the reason why the narrative 450 00:25:36.519 --> 00:25:39.839 narrative might not be pushed is because that's not something 451 00:25:39.920 --> 00:25:42.839 they can control as opposed to COVID. 452 00:25:43.480 --> 00:25:46.720 Second of all, or it could be since that is 453 00:25:46.759 --> 00:25:51.160 an actual epidemic, it could be that all right, hey, 454 00:25:52.200 --> 00:25:54.880 don't look what we're doing over here while we have 455 00:25:54.960 --> 00:25:55.880 your eyes over here. 456 00:25:56.559 --> 00:25:59.359 I think it's a little bit of bo Yeah. Yeah, 457 00:25:59.440 --> 00:26:04.799 So to your first point, tuberculosis is contagious, it's transferable. However, 458 00:26:05.519 --> 00:26:08.720 it's I don't know off top. I'm sure there's a 459 00:26:08.799 --> 00:26:11.400 lab somewhere that's working on a mutated version of it, 460 00:26:11.720 --> 00:26:14.839 and it could become the next big pandemic slash plandemic. 461 00:26:14.920 --> 00:26:15.079 Right. 462 00:26:15.160 --> 00:26:18.440 It absolutely is within the realm of possibility. But like 463 00:26:18.480 --> 00:26:20.880 we said, it's been around for so long and there's 464 00:26:20.960 --> 00:26:24.079 treatment options, but to my knowledge, none of them are 465 00:26:24.920 --> 00:26:27.640 necessarily good or necessarily bad. It kind of if it 466 00:26:27.680 --> 00:26:30.160 depends on to what level the TV is taken over 467 00:26:30.200 --> 00:26:32.839 your body by the time you get treatment, kind of 468 00:26:32.880 --> 00:26:35.559 determines your level of survivability on it. Again, I'm not 469 00:26:35.599 --> 00:26:38.119 an expert on this. That's just as of my understanding 470 00:26:38.160 --> 00:26:40.880 at this moment, and I absolutely agree with you. I 471 00:26:40.920 --> 00:26:43.880 think that it's not something that they can manufacture. They 472 00:26:43.880 --> 00:26:46.119 can't make money off of it, so they're not going 473 00:26:46.200 --> 00:26:48.839 to promote it. And here's the deal, even if you 474 00:26:48.920 --> 00:26:52.039 were to just raise awareness for it, even if the 475 00:26:52.119 --> 00:26:55.440 mainstream media and all these news sources were to start 476 00:26:55.480 --> 00:26:59.839 talking more about the tuberculosis epidemic that has been going 477 00:26:59.880 --> 00:27:02.440 on for years and years and years, not necessarily to 478 00:27:02.440 --> 00:27:04.039 blow the lid off of it, but if nothing else, 479 00:27:04.039 --> 00:27:07.559 how about we start really kickstarting some funding towards research 480 00:27:07.640 --> 00:27:09.680 into TV. I know there is some going on there 481 00:27:09.720 --> 00:27:12.200 always has been, but if we were to start putting 482 00:27:12.240 --> 00:27:16.119 even more resources and more experts in that field, perhaps 483 00:27:16.119 --> 00:27:21.119 we could see some really generally groundbreaking breakthroughs. But to 484 00:27:21.160 --> 00:27:23.440 your point, they can't profit off of it. It's not 485 00:27:23.519 --> 00:27:25.799 as big of a fear tactic because it's been around 486 00:27:25.799 --> 00:27:27.960 for so long, So I think it's a it's doubly, 487 00:27:28.279 --> 00:27:33.519 you know double entendre what you just said. Go ahead, Sam. 488 00:27:33.680 --> 00:27:37.799 Oh. The thing about toberculosis, it's it can be transphobole 489 00:27:37.799 --> 00:27:40.720 that it's might costs on you, or that blood gets 490 00:27:40.720 --> 00:27:42.079 into like a wound or something. 491 00:27:42.359 --> 00:27:42.640 Right. 492 00:27:44.119 --> 00:27:46.799 The reason I know about tobaca closis I played Red Dead. 493 00:27:46.839 --> 00:27:50.920 I'm obsessed over it, and I want I went down 494 00:27:50.960 --> 00:27:56.200 the bab hole is no why the author died and everything. Actually, uh, 495 00:27:56.519 --> 00:28:00.200 the queer of tuberculosis is actually kind of simm You 496 00:28:00.240 --> 00:28:03.079 can cure them if you take penicillin, but it's that 497 00:28:03.240 --> 00:28:05.160 even then that's not always guaranteed. 498 00:28:05.440 --> 00:28:07.519 Like I said, it's an infection and if you catch 499 00:28:07.519 --> 00:28:10.400 it early enough, yeah, some antibiotics could cure it. But 500 00:28:10.480 --> 00:28:12.799 if you've been fighting it for a few years and 501 00:28:12.839 --> 00:28:15.599 it's gotten into your blood, it's difficult. 502 00:28:15.960 --> 00:28:21.000 At that point, it's terminal. But that's actually why I like, 503 00:28:22.039 --> 00:28:23.680 that's why Doc all of that got told to go 504 00:28:23.759 --> 00:28:27.039 out west, because he was originally from making Georgia. It 505 00:28:27.240 --> 00:28:30.799 is humid as a motherfucker down here. That's why he 506 00:28:30.799 --> 00:28:32.839 got told to go out go out to the desert 507 00:28:32.839 --> 00:28:36.480 where it's nice and dry. That dry heat ain't got 508 00:28:36.519 --> 00:28:38.000 nothing on this way heat down. 509 00:28:37.839 --> 00:28:40.759 Here, which that is true. The dryer climate does help 510 00:28:40.799 --> 00:28:44.119 you when it comes to respiratory things. But at that 511 00:28:44.240 --> 00:28:46.559 point it had already gotten so deep into him that 512 00:28:46.599 --> 00:28:48.240 it was only a matter of time. I think they 513 00:28:48.279 --> 00:28:50.960 called that consumption back in the day before it was 514 00:28:50.960 --> 00:28:53.079 like they need good to be tuberculosis. 515 00:28:53.119 --> 00:28:57.079 But anyway, they did that because you were literally coughing 516 00:28:57.160 --> 00:28:58.119 up your own lungs. 517 00:28:58.359 --> 00:29:00.000 Yeah, yeah, go ahead. 518 00:29:02.640 --> 00:29:07.480 There is currently five medications on the market that you 519 00:29:07.519 --> 00:29:12.119 can take for TB, and some of them you have 520 00:29:12.240 --> 00:29:15.480 to take for several months to up to a year 521 00:29:15.640 --> 00:29:18.680 at least to try to get rid of the bacteria. 522 00:29:19.240 --> 00:29:24.599 Most of them can actually cure TB. Sometimes people have 523 00:29:24.640 --> 00:29:28.119 to stay like stints in the hospital. I actually my 524 00:29:28.480 --> 00:29:31.279 ex was actually exposed to TB and then I had 525 00:29:31.279 --> 00:29:35.160 to get tested literally probably I think it was like 526 00:29:35.240 --> 00:29:39.480 every month for two solid years to make sure that 527 00:29:39.559 --> 00:29:42.640 I didn't have TB because it can live in your 528 00:29:42.680 --> 00:29:45.440 body without you having an infection, kind of like how 529 00:29:45.480 --> 00:29:49.079 you can carry an STD around for years and years. 530 00:29:49.680 --> 00:29:53.039 You didn't know that, Sam, fun fact. 531 00:29:53.079 --> 00:29:55.000 I didn't know that you absolutely can. 532 00:29:55.440 --> 00:29:59.400 Fun fact, you can actually fun so you can actually 533 00:29:59.480 --> 00:30:04.039 carry like herpes in your body for decades and never 534 00:30:04.119 --> 00:30:07.400 have an actual symptom. And actually men are more likely 535 00:30:07.519 --> 00:30:11.200 to carry the herpes virus and have zero symptoms in 536 00:30:11.240 --> 00:30:14.279 their body for pretty much their whole life, or suddenly, 537 00:30:14.279 --> 00:30:17.200 out of nowhere, say thirty years down the road, you'll 538 00:30:17.240 --> 00:30:21.759 have a symptom. Also, like chlamydia gonorrhea, you can have 539 00:30:21.880 --> 00:30:24.920 those for years and have no symptoms, and then you 540 00:30:24.920 --> 00:30:30.119 can infect other people and you'll keep popping negative on tests, 541 00:30:30.400 --> 00:30:33.960 but you actually are asymptomatic and you're passing that along 542 00:30:35.119 --> 00:30:35.640 with TV. 543 00:30:35.799 --> 00:30:39.480 Right, say it again, Royce, I said same thing with HPV. 544 00:30:39.720 --> 00:30:43.559 Right, Yes, HPV is most likely carried is carried by men, 545 00:30:44.039 --> 00:30:46.440 and is it a lot of times men don't know 546 00:30:46.480 --> 00:30:49.640 it and then they unintentionally pass it to women. That's 547 00:30:49.640 --> 00:30:54.880 why like the population, I think the last like generous, 548 00:30:55.039 --> 00:30:57.559 this poll that they took was around like eighty five 549 00:30:57.640 --> 00:31:02.039 percent of people have herpes in some form, most likely 550 00:31:02.119 --> 00:31:07.039 both forms, and most people don't actually know they have it. 551 00:31:07.039 --> 00:31:10.240 It's the poll is actually the most time you get it. 552 00:31:10.240 --> 00:31:13.079 You actually get it when you're in kindergarten. And the 553 00:31:13.079 --> 00:31:18.599 most common symptom is type one, which is the fever blisters, right, right, 554 00:31:18.640 --> 00:31:20.480 but it has to. 555 00:31:21.720 --> 00:31:24.599 Yeah. But to that point, for any of the good 556 00:31:24.640 --> 00:31:27.559 listeners out there that are out and about and uh 557 00:31:28.039 --> 00:31:34.599 being a little free and open with their extracurricular activities, listen, 558 00:31:34.960 --> 00:31:38.039 do yourself and the people of your future a favor. 559 00:31:38.319 --> 00:31:41.200 Go get a ten panel blood test done, just just 560 00:31:41.279 --> 00:31:44.319 in case, you know, if nothing else, especially if you 561 00:31:44.319 --> 00:31:46.279 have insurance. It's not gonna cost you much except for 562 00:31:46.319 --> 00:31:48.160 a little bit of your time and a few dollars, 563 00:31:48.200 --> 00:31:51.200 just a few, and it'll just let you know what 564 00:31:51.240 --> 00:31:54.759 you got going on, you know. Just so everybody's out there, 565 00:31:54.759 --> 00:31:59.960 I am not I am not promoting free and noncommittal 566 00:32:00.480 --> 00:32:04.039 sexual relations. Same time, I'm not gonna judge anybody who's 567 00:32:04.039 --> 00:32:06.599 out there living their life. I'm just saying, be safe 568 00:32:06.599 --> 00:32:09.599 about it, protect yourself and those that you may come 569 00:32:09.599 --> 00:32:12.200 in contact with. It's really not that big of a deal. 570 00:32:12.359 --> 00:32:15.880 But yes, to raven Lee's point, there's a lot of 571 00:32:16.039 --> 00:32:18.759 STDs you can carry laying dormant in your system for 572 00:32:18.920 --> 00:32:22.759 years and never know it until it's too late. And yeah, 573 00:32:22.799 --> 00:32:24.920 tuberculos is also one of those. It lays dormant for 574 00:32:24.960 --> 00:32:27.200 quite some time and the next thing you know, you've 575 00:32:27.200 --> 00:32:29.359 got it and like you said, there is medication that 576 00:32:29.359 --> 00:32:31.759 you could take. Again, I do not know for a fact, 577 00:32:31.799 --> 00:32:34.759 but I believe it depends on how long it's been 578 00:32:34.759 --> 00:32:37.240 in your system and to what level the infection has spread, 579 00:32:37.599 --> 00:32:40.720 depends on what treatment options are available to you, or 580 00:32:40.799 --> 00:32:44.119 even if the treatment options are willing to work at 581 00:32:44.119 --> 00:32:47.119 there are able to work, I should say go ahead, Raven. 582 00:32:49.039 --> 00:32:52.799 So most of the treatments can work, even in a 583 00:32:52.920 --> 00:32:59.079 late stage, because they actually have one that like pretty 584 00:32:59.119 --> 00:33:02.640 much coats and side of your lungs, but it takes 585 00:33:02.680 --> 00:33:07.799 like a very long time, so like months of instay 586 00:33:07.880 --> 00:33:12.680 treatment to be doing a respiratory breather, and like I 587 00:33:12.720 --> 00:33:17.039 got double pneumonia from a vaccine. I literally developed it 588 00:33:17.119 --> 00:33:20.920 within like three days of getting it, and they have 589 00:33:21.079 --> 00:33:23.400 me like on a respiratory breather and all this stuff. 590 00:33:23.440 --> 00:33:25.920 Well they've used that kind of technology now and they 591 00:33:25.960 --> 00:33:29.440 have it with TB and they also have it like 592 00:33:29.480 --> 00:33:33.440 they're doing intervenous treatments as well, so it's like it's 593 00:33:33.519 --> 00:33:37.480 a multi combo thing. But sometimes the bodies can't stand 594 00:33:37.599 --> 00:33:39.720 up to the amount of treatment, just kind of like 595 00:33:39.799 --> 00:33:42.880 how cancer and you're treating it with chemo and radiation, 596 00:33:43.039 --> 00:33:45.279 which a lot of us that actually read into it 597 00:33:45.319 --> 00:33:48.799 and know what that does to bodies. But you know, 598 00:33:48.839 --> 00:33:50.759 it's it's one of those things most of the time 599 00:33:50.839 --> 00:33:54.400 now that you can actually catch it, but it's people 600 00:33:54.400 --> 00:33:56.799 will still die from this because they just kind of 601 00:33:56.839 --> 00:33:59.680 think that it's just a simple cough and that's it. 602 00:34:00.039 --> 00:34:03.279 But that even furthers the point, right, why is there 603 00:34:03.319 --> 00:34:09.039 such a tuberculocus tuberculosis rather epidemic on Earth? If we 604 00:34:09.119 --> 00:34:11.840 have the medications, we have the technology, we have the 605 00:34:11.880 --> 00:34:15.440 treatment options. And granted, I understand that not everybody on 606 00:34:15.480 --> 00:34:20.440 Earth has access to decent medical or medicine in general, right, 607 00:34:20.920 --> 00:34:23.480 but there are things like doctors without borders, there are 608 00:34:23.599 --> 00:34:26.719 programs and initiatives to reach people all over the globe. 609 00:34:27.199 --> 00:34:30.280 So why is it still such an epidemic To the 610 00:34:30.360 --> 00:34:33.079 point that Royce was making, I'm just speaking on behalf 611 00:34:33.119 --> 00:34:35.159 of myself here, believe it is because it is not 612 00:34:35.320 --> 00:34:38.199 a hot button topic enough. There's not enough money to 613 00:34:38.280 --> 00:34:40.159 be made from this, so it's kind of one of 614 00:34:40.199 --> 00:34:42.000 those things where it just kind of gets pushed under 615 00:34:42.000 --> 00:34:44.840 the rug, even though statistically by the numbers, it kills 616 00:34:45.440 --> 00:34:49.960 vast amounts of people around the world every year, So Anyway, 617 00:34:50.440 --> 00:34:52.280 again back to the point of this article. I do 618 00:34:52.360 --> 00:34:55.239 not know as of this time what the overarching reason 619 00:34:55.320 --> 00:35:00.320 behind this new CDC director's dismissal was, but I am 620 00:35:00.360 --> 00:35:02.159 sure that more information on this is going to be 621 00:35:02.199 --> 00:35:04.199 coming out in the next few days. We may even 622 00:35:04.199 --> 00:35:06.800 be talking about it next week on the Cajun Night Live. 623 00:35:07.679 --> 00:35:11.519 Moving on to the next topic, this is a BBC article. 624 00:35:12.119 --> 00:35:14.000 I found a couple of articles talking about this that 625 00:35:14.000 --> 00:35:17.239 were American based, but I honestly thought that the BBC 626 00:35:17.440 --> 00:35:19.480 might have a different perspective on it, so it might 627 00:35:19.480 --> 00:35:23.000 be worth a read. The US tells Denmark to calm 628 00:35:23.079 --> 00:35:28.639 down over alleged to Greenland influence operation. Yeah, get ready 629 00:35:28.639 --> 00:35:30.679 for this one, y'all. The US has told Denmark to 630 00:35:30.719 --> 00:35:33.599 calm down after the top US diplomat in Copenhagen was 631 00:35:33.639 --> 00:35:38.320 summoned overclaims that Americans had been conducting covert operations in Greenland. 632 00:35:38.760 --> 00:35:42.719 Denmark's public broadcaster DR quoted sources saying that the aim 633 00:35:42.880 --> 00:35:46.239 was to infiltrate society and promote its secession from Denmark 634 00:35:46.280 --> 00:35:49.400 to the US, although it was unable to clarify who 635 00:35:49.480 --> 00:35:52.480 the men were working for. A White House official who 636 00:35:52.480 --> 00:35:56.480 could not confirm an influence campaign was underway, but said 637 00:35:56.840 --> 00:36:00.679 we think the Danes need to calm down right. Foreign 638 00:36:00.719 --> 00:36:06.119 Minister Lars Loke Rosmussen Yeah, said any attempt to interfere 639 00:36:06.119 --> 00:36:08.960 in the internal affairs of the Kingdom of Denmark will 640 00:36:09.039 --> 00:36:14.400 of course be unacceptable. Danish intelligence warrened Greenland was being 641 00:36:14.559 --> 00:36:18.239 targeted by various kinds of influence campaigns. A US State 642 00:36:18.239 --> 00:36:23.840 Department spokesperson said Chars d Affairs Mark Strow had met 643 00:36:23.880 --> 00:36:26.639 with the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, adding that he had 644 00:36:26.760 --> 00:36:32.760 a productive conversation quote unquote that quote unquote reaffirmed the 645 00:36:32.840 --> 00:36:37.000 strong ties between Greenland, Denmark, and the United States. The 646 00:36:37.039 --> 00:36:40.119 spokesperson could not comment on the actions of private US 647 00:36:40.119 --> 00:36:44.000 citizens in Greenland, but said the US had always respected 648 00:36:44.000 --> 00:36:46.679 the right of the people of Greenland to determine their 649 00:36:46.679 --> 00:36:50.679 own future. President Trump said several times he wants to 650 00:36:50.760 --> 00:36:54.480 annex Greenland, a semi autonomous part of the Kingdom of Denmark, 651 00:36:54.719 --> 00:36:57.519 and Vice President J. D Vance has accused Copenhagen of 652 00:36:57.679 --> 00:37:01.719 undervesting or excuse me, under invent in the territory. I 653 00:37:01.719 --> 00:37:04.760 think that's a fair statement, not that I'm necessarily like 654 00:37:05.079 --> 00:37:08.639 a big jd Vance fan I'm not exactly anti hymn either, 655 00:37:09.320 --> 00:37:11.440 but I think that that's also a pretty fair statement, 656 00:37:11.599 --> 00:37:14.519 but okay. On a visit to Greenland a few months ago, 657 00:37:14.599 --> 00:37:17.880 Danish Prime Minister Met Fredrickson warned the US that you 658 00:37:18.000 --> 00:37:21.400 cannot annex another country. Denmark's foreign ministers said in a 659 00:37:21.400 --> 00:37:24.519 statement to the BBC that the government was aware that 660 00:37:24.599 --> 00:37:27.840 foreign actors continue to show an interest in Greenland and 661 00:37:27.920 --> 00:37:30.840 its position in the Kingdom of Denmark. It is therefore 662 00:37:30.920 --> 00:37:34.239 not surprising if we experience outside attempts to influence the 663 00:37:34.280 --> 00:37:37.440 future of the kingdom in the time ahead. Denmark is 664 00:37:37.440 --> 00:37:39.880 a member of NATO and the European Union, and has 665 00:37:40.039 --> 00:37:42.760 long seen the US as one of its closest allies. 666 00:37:43.039 --> 00:37:46.599 I'll bet the Danes have been shocked by Trump's determination 667 00:37:46.679 --> 00:37:50.239 to control its semi autonomous territory. The US President said 668 00:37:50.239 --> 00:37:53.119 this year he would not rule out seizing it by force. 669 00:37:53.880 --> 00:37:57.039 I don't exactly know if that's a true statement or not. 670 00:37:57.400 --> 00:37:59.920 Let's see what this clip is. The Danes, who fought 671 00:38:00.039 --> 00:38:02.280 alongside the US needs all right, Let's see. Let's see 672 00:38:02.280 --> 00:38:03.320 what it looks like here. 673 00:38:04.039 --> 00:38:08.199 I don't want to us to invade US. 674 00:38:08.480 --> 00:38:09.920 They can do their. 675 00:38:09.599 --> 00:38:15.159 Own business military business in truly. 676 00:38:15.639 --> 00:38:19.039 But they are not welcome here in nuke. The only 677 00:38:19.079 --> 00:38:20.960 country who can protect us is not that much. 678 00:38:21.000 --> 00:38:22.960 It's only US who can protect Ring, and that the 679 00:38:23.000 --> 00:38:26.960 actors can the northern hemisphere and western hemisphere is the US. 680 00:38:27.480 --> 00:38:31.320 It's very scary for me, so like he can do 681 00:38:31.400 --> 00:38:35.639 whatever he wants kind of. Yeah, so it's very scary. 682 00:38:36.039 --> 00:38:36.760 I'm a human. 683 00:38:37.320 --> 00:38:40.920 Human are not for sale. We are not for sale. 684 00:38:41.239 --> 00:38:43.159 You are not for sale in your country. 685 00:38:43.440 --> 00:38:45.519 You know that. 686 00:38:45.519 --> 00:38:47.559 That's why I am very angry about that. 687 00:38:51.599 --> 00:38:54.679 So overall, the people are not happy about it. Granted 688 00:38:54.719 --> 00:38:56.800 this is only like four or five different people they asked. 689 00:38:57.679 --> 00:38:59.320 One person was like, look, the US is the only 690 00:38:59.360 --> 00:39:01.960 one that can really offend us. Let's be real here. 691 00:39:02.039 --> 00:39:06.880 So I'm assuming you know it's not a majority in 692 00:39:06.960 --> 00:39:09.679 favor of a US annexation by any means, which you 693 00:39:09.679 --> 00:39:13.199 wouldn't expect. The Danes are very proud people, so are 694 00:39:13.239 --> 00:39:17.920 the people of Greenland. I will say that, yeah, Denmark 695 00:39:18.000 --> 00:39:21.920 has a decent military. They're not scrubs by any means. 696 00:39:21.960 --> 00:39:25.000 I've actually met and trained with some Danish marines at 697 00:39:25.000 --> 00:39:27.960 one point in time. Solid guys, I might add, they 698 00:39:27.960 --> 00:39:30.280 are just like American Marines, they just talk funny. Same 699 00:39:30.320 --> 00:39:32.639 with the British Royal Marines. They're literally us. They just 700 00:39:32.679 --> 00:39:36.679 talk funny. But overall, when you're looking at like real 701 00:39:37.719 --> 00:39:40.719 numbers and figures and statistics, as far as military might goes, 702 00:39:41.280 --> 00:39:44.840 that's not But comparing American military to pretty much any 703 00:39:44.840 --> 00:39:48.199 other military on earth is an unfair comparison. We are, 704 00:39:48.760 --> 00:39:52.920 by low estimations, twenty five years ahead of any competition, 705 00:39:53.039 --> 00:39:55.960 by best estimations, fifty or sixty years ahead in tech 706 00:39:56.000 --> 00:39:58.800 and all the other things. So it is what it is. 707 00:39:58.880 --> 00:40:03.159 But let's continue here. Denmark's PET Security and Intelligence Services 708 00:40:03.199 --> 00:40:06.320 said in an assessment that influence campaigns would aim to 709 00:40:06.400 --> 00:40:09.920 create discord in the relationship between Denmark and Greenland. This 710 00:40:10.000 --> 00:40:14.000 could be done exploiting existing or invented disagreements, either with 711 00:40:14.119 --> 00:40:19.519 traditional physical influence agents or via disinformation. It added. PET 712 00:40:19.840 --> 00:40:22.880 said it had strengthened its presence in Greenland and cooperation 713 00:40:23.159 --> 00:40:27.639 with its authorities. The US currently has no ambassador in Copenhagen, 714 00:40:27.679 --> 00:40:32.480 so Rams Rasmussen excuse me, has summoned Mark Strow, who 715 00:40:32.679 --> 00:40:36.679 was the charge of the affairs, is the most senior 716 00:40:36.719 --> 00:40:41.559 diplomat in the Danish capital, Lars Loke Rasmussen. I'm gonna 717 00:40:41.559 --> 00:40:44.360 get that right here, has already some in the US. 718 00:40:44.840 --> 00:40:51.360 In Denmark, the US sharda Fashar affairs. I guess that's 719 00:40:51.400 --> 00:40:55.679 just like, you know, a title. For a second, I 720 00:40:55.679 --> 00:40:59.239 thought that was maybe like a noble rank or title 721 00:40:59.320 --> 00:41:01.320 or something like that, a lord or something. It's I 722 00:41:01.320 --> 00:41:03.440 don't think so. I think that's just a position, but anyway, 723 00:41:04.599 --> 00:41:07.840 summoned him in Denmark this year in response to a 724 00:41:07.960 --> 00:41:11.920 separate report in May suggesting US spy agencies have been 725 00:41:11.920 --> 00:41:16.960 told to focus their efforts on Greenland, Okay. DR's report 726 00:41:17.000 --> 00:41:20.280 on Wednesday gave detail of a visit by one American 727 00:41:20.480 --> 00:41:24.880 to Greenland's capital, Nuk, saying nuke. I think that's how 728 00:41:24.880 --> 00:41:27.559 you pronounced it, saying he was seeking to compile a 729 00:41:27.599 --> 00:41:30.639 list of Greenlanders who backed US attempts to take over 730 00:41:30.679 --> 00:41:33.400 the island. The aim would be to try to recruit 731 00:41:33.440 --> 00:41:37.079 them for a secession movement, the DR said. The earlier 732 00:41:37.119 --> 00:41:39.599 May report in the Wall Street Journal also referred to 733 00:41:39.920 --> 00:41:43.519 learning more about Greenland's independence movement, as well as attitudes 734 00:41:43.519 --> 00:41:47.599 to American mineral extraction. At the time, the US Director 735 00:41:47.639 --> 00:41:50.599 of National Intelligence Tulsea Gabbert did not deny the report, 736 00:41:50.880 --> 00:41:53.679 but accused the journal of quote breaking the law and 737 00:41:53.800 --> 00:41:59.440 undermining our nation security and democracy. Okay, Tulsi, I see you, 738 00:41:59.480 --> 00:42:03.639 Colonel Gabs. Greenland has a complex relationship with Denmark. Despite 739 00:42:03.679 --> 00:42:06.960 having broad self government since nineteen seventy nine, its foreign 740 00:42:06.960 --> 00:42:10.039 and defense policy is made in Copenhagen. Although most of 741 00:42:10.039 --> 00:42:13.199 its political parties favor independence, they disagree on how quickly 742 00:42:13.199 --> 00:42:15.800 they should push for it. While Greenlanders have had the 743 00:42:15.880 --> 00:42:18.800 right to call referendum since two thousand and nine, Pole 744 00:42:18.880 --> 00:42:21.000 suggests the vast majority of them have no wish to 745 00:42:21.039 --> 00:42:23.679 become a part of the US. I also could see 746 00:42:23.719 --> 00:42:25.679 that too. If anything, they would want to become their 747 00:42:25.719 --> 00:42:29.639 own independent nation, But for the land size that they have, 748 00:42:30.280 --> 00:42:34.800 the location of this land size in relation to global defense, 749 00:42:35.239 --> 00:42:37.719 and the fact that they have so few people living there. 750 00:42:38.559 --> 00:42:40.679 I don't know if independence is going to go as 751 00:42:40.719 --> 00:42:44.039 well for them like as they think. But I could 752 00:42:44.119 --> 00:42:47.719 be completely talking out of my ass here anyway. When 753 00:42:47.760 --> 00:42:51.320 the Vice President Jade Vance visited a military base on 754 00:42:51.360 --> 00:42:53.599 the island in March, he accused Denmark of not doing 755 00:42:53.679 --> 00:42:56.440 enough to keep US troops and Greenlanders safe from Russia. 756 00:42:56.559 --> 00:42:59.599 China and other countries that he said were interested in 757 00:42:59.639 --> 00:43:03.679 its buttential, mineral wealth and Arctic naval routes. That's kind 758 00:43:03.679 --> 00:43:05.559 of what I was getting at there, to be honest 759 00:43:05.559 --> 00:43:10.800 with you. However, Greenland leader Jens Frederick Nielsen, I don't 760 00:43:10.880 --> 00:43:12.599 know if they pronounced the jay like that or if 761 00:43:12.599 --> 00:43:15.480 it's like a soft jay. Is that YenS? YenS Frederick 762 00:43:15.559 --> 00:43:19.239 Nielsen maybe made clear in May that the US would 763 00:43:19.239 --> 00:43:22.000 not be taking over the territory. We do not belong 764 00:43:22.079 --> 00:43:25.400 to anyone else. We decide our own future. Very proud man, 765 00:43:25.440 --> 00:43:28.280 mister Nielsen. The Danish foreign Minister's latest decision to some 766 00:43:28.400 --> 00:43:32.039 of the US charged affairs amounts to the a diplomatic 767 00:43:32.159 --> 00:43:36.559 yellow card, unprecedented in Danish relations with the US. According 768 00:43:36.559 --> 00:43:41.920 to Yin's Latifadged Mortensen Jesus of the University of Copenhagen, 769 00:43:42.760 --> 00:43:46.320 this hostile attitude towards Denmark from the Trump administration is shocking, 770 00:43:46.360 --> 00:43:49.320 he told the BBC. As a pro American country, we're 771 00:43:49.360 --> 00:43:52.400 asking why are you doing this. One of Denmark's biggest 772 00:43:52.400 --> 00:43:54.760 companies had already been caught in the crosshairs of the 773 00:43:54.840 --> 00:43:57.519 US government in recent days following in order to stop 774 00:43:57.559 --> 00:43:59.880 the construction of a big wind farm off the co 775 00:44:00.239 --> 00:44:04.679 of Rhode Island because wind farms suck. That's like, we 776 00:44:04.760 --> 00:44:07.519 need to stop trying to make that a thing. That's 777 00:44:08.079 --> 00:44:10.960 a net negative. And I thought that was understood at 778 00:44:10.960 --> 00:44:15.519 this point. But yeah, moving on. The revolution Win project, 779 00:44:15.920 --> 00:44:19.960 already eighty percent complete, is being run by Danish multinational 780 00:44:19.960 --> 00:44:24.159 wind farm developer or STED, which is fifty point one 781 00:44:24.320 --> 00:44:28.519 percent owned by the Danish state. Why why do we 782 00:44:28.639 --> 00:44:33.239 have a wind farm in America being primarily owned by 783 00:44:33.280 --> 00:44:36.960 another country. I feel like, even if that's an allied 784 00:44:37.039 --> 00:44:40.800 nation like that, that seems weird. You know, when we 785 00:44:40.880 --> 00:44:44.000 set up a shop in another country, it has to 786 00:44:44.039 --> 00:44:47.800 be fifty point one percent owned by that nation. Yet 787 00:44:47.800 --> 00:44:53.000 somehow that's allowed here anyway. It is the latest wind 788 00:44:53.079 --> 00:44:55.840 power initiative to be targeted by President Trump, who said 789 00:44:55.920 --> 00:44:59.960 last week we're not doing the wind. Yeah. Good share. 790 00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:03.400 There's an Orsted plummeted sixteen percent on Monday in response 791 00:45:03.440 --> 00:45:05.760 to the so called stop work order, although they have 792 00:45:05.840 --> 00:45:08.840 since clawed back some of the losses. The company said 793 00:45:08.960 --> 00:45:12.239 it has already installed forty five out of the sixty 794 00:45:12.320 --> 00:45:15.760 five turbans in the project, aimed at providing power to 795 00:45:15.920 --> 00:45:21.920 three hundred and fifty thousand homes. Okay, so again, apparently 796 00:45:22.000 --> 00:45:25.400 the US is still allegedly. I haven't heard anything about 797 00:45:25.480 --> 00:45:27.639 US trying to annex Greenland in quite some time. I 798 00:45:27.679 --> 00:45:30.039 remember when Trump was going on about it and people 799 00:45:30.079 --> 00:45:32.559 were like, oh, well, we could really use a fifty 800 00:45:32.559 --> 00:45:34.880 first state and yeah, but I thought that was more 801 00:45:34.920 --> 00:45:37.480 of a joke, right, I thought that was more for 802 00:45:37.519 --> 00:45:42.360 the lulls and all. This Annexing another nation into US 803 00:45:42.440 --> 00:45:44.760 is extremely difficult, and now we even talked about that 804 00:45:44.840 --> 00:45:48.960 a couple weeks ago. There's three provinces of Canada that 805 00:45:49.039 --> 00:45:51.920 are starting to take the steps to annex themselves. Not 806 00:45:52.039 --> 00:45:56.760 America taking them over, but if they were to secede 807 00:45:56.760 --> 00:46:00.239 from Canada and pledge allegiance to the United States, what 808 00:46:00.280 --> 00:46:03.320 that would realistically look like. Would that be another territory 809 00:46:03.360 --> 00:46:06.400 situation like a Guam in Puerto Rico, an American Samoa 810 00:46:06.400 --> 00:46:08.920 and Virgin Islands kind of thing, or would it be 811 00:46:08.960 --> 00:46:13.079 more like an Alaska Hawaii situation. There's a lot of 812 00:46:13.239 --> 00:46:16.119 other levels to this, and a whole spectrum of red 813 00:46:16.159 --> 00:46:19.760 tape and bureaucracy and DC fuddy duties that would like 814 00:46:19.840 --> 00:46:21.960 to have their statements be heard on the matter. I 815 00:46:22.000 --> 00:46:25.880 don't know enough to speak intelligently on it. If Greenland 816 00:46:25.920 --> 00:46:29.840 wanted to secede, like most of Greenland is saying, they 817 00:46:29.840 --> 00:46:32.199 would probably want to become their own independent sovereign nation, 818 00:46:32.800 --> 00:46:34.679 how would that go for them in the case of 819 00:46:34.719 --> 00:46:37.639 some sort of a world war that would potentially break out. 820 00:46:37.679 --> 00:46:39.960 And no, I am not saying that the world war 821 00:46:40.000 --> 00:46:42.800 would be Russia and China. I'm not not saying that either, 822 00:46:43.000 --> 00:46:46.719 But just in the sense of World War III, name 823 00:46:46.760 --> 00:46:50.119 your belligerents, and it doesn't really matter in that scenario. 824 00:46:50.480 --> 00:46:54.360 Greenland is not a They're in a prime location on 825 00:46:54.480 --> 00:46:58.679 the globe. They are not primed to defend themselves as 826 00:46:58.679 --> 00:47:02.920 an independent sovereignation. I don't and that's I don't think 827 00:47:02.920 --> 00:47:06.079 they're actually gonna secceede from Denmark. If they did, I 828 00:47:06.119 --> 00:47:09.159 would hope that they would try to become a little 829 00:47:09.199 --> 00:47:12.639 more tighter with America in that sense. But who's to 830 00:47:12.679 --> 00:47:16.119 really say, you know, But anyway, Raven, I see your 831 00:47:16.119 --> 00:47:16.719 hand go ahead. 832 00:47:18.039 --> 00:47:22.119 Wasn't didn't Trump on his last term purchase like a 833 00:47:22.119 --> 00:47:25.639 whole bunch of land in Greenland, and also like airspace 834 00:47:25.679 --> 00:47:30.039 as well. And there's something else that happened in Greenland, 835 00:47:30.039 --> 00:47:33.119 but that like, Greenland is that one place that, like, 836 00:47:33.199 --> 00:47:38.559 if you've ever played any like apocalyptic kind of plague, whatever, 837 00:47:39.159 --> 00:47:41.960 Greenland is like the one place in the world that 838 00:47:42.000 --> 00:47:45.760 will always survive, like every scenario, everything that you can 839 00:47:45.800 --> 00:47:50.079 ever run, Greenland will survive. So, I mean, there's a 840 00:47:50.079 --> 00:47:51.639 lot of talk that there's like a whole bunch of 841 00:47:51.639 --> 00:47:55.079 bunkers in Greenland too, there is for the elite, and 842 00:47:55.079 --> 00:47:58.000 that that's where like you'd want to go if you 843 00:47:58.000 --> 00:47:58.559 could get to. 844 00:48:00.199 --> 00:48:03.800 So weird thought yes to everything that you said. Let's 845 00:48:03.800 --> 00:48:07.360 break this down starting with the reason why Greenland survives 846 00:48:07.400 --> 00:48:10.840 in every single scenario, even the war games that name 847 00:48:10.920 --> 00:48:15.000 your country's government and military industrial complex plays, is because 848 00:48:15.000 --> 00:48:18.239 it's such a large land mass. It is so freaking 849 00:48:18.360 --> 00:48:21.119 cold there that most bacteria doesn't really do well surviving 850 00:48:21.159 --> 00:48:24.519 in that environment, and there's such a low population that 851 00:48:24.760 --> 00:48:26.960 really and truly even if some sort of outbreak was 852 00:48:26.960 --> 00:48:29.840 to hit there, it would probably not go very far 853 00:48:30.519 --> 00:48:33.280 at all. Right to that point, Also, because it is 854 00:48:33.320 --> 00:48:35.960 a very large land mass with not a large population, 855 00:48:36.039 --> 00:48:41.320 there's a lot of uninhabited land to be had there. 856 00:48:41.599 --> 00:48:44.000 There is a lot of underground bunkers for the elites. 857 00:48:44.039 --> 00:48:48.639 But also Trump was trying to buy back military bases 858 00:48:48.639 --> 00:48:52.119 that used to be manned by American forces in Greenland 859 00:48:52.199 --> 00:48:55.360 during the Cold War. So let's break that down. Before 860 00:48:55.559 --> 00:48:58.960 we had satellite technology to level that we have now, 861 00:48:59.400 --> 00:49:02.639 we had a series of radars that were essentially set 862 00:49:02.719 --> 00:49:06.159 up surrounding any key points to where Russia could come in. 863 00:49:06.960 --> 00:49:10.719 Again I say Russia Soviet Union. Let's give that distinction 864 00:49:11.760 --> 00:49:13.599 that if they were going to try to send a 865 00:49:13.599 --> 00:49:16.320 submarine through one of these corridors, we needed to know 866 00:49:16.360 --> 00:49:17.880 about it, or if they were trying to fly a 867 00:49:17.920 --> 00:49:20.159 little close to an airspace of an ally of ours, 868 00:49:20.400 --> 00:49:23.400 we needed to know about it. So America had a 869 00:49:23.719 --> 00:49:29.320 legitimate line of radar system bases set up on Greenland, 870 00:49:29.440 --> 00:49:31.239 or in Greenland, I should say, I keep saying on 871 00:49:31.360 --> 00:49:33.239 as if it's like a it is an island, but 872 00:49:33.239 --> 00:49:38.039 it's a large island. And Trump bought back they were 873 00:49:38.159 --> 00:49:40.400 leased from Greenland, and then when the time came, we 874 00:49:40.440 --> 00:49:43.760 just didn't renew our lease because we had satellite technology 875 00:49:43.760 --> 00:49:47.239 that far surpassed the radars that were installed at that time, 876 00:49:47.360 --> 00:49:51.199 and installing new or better updated radar systems, especially in 877 00:49:51.239 --> 00:49:53.119 Greenland at that time was just seemed like a net 878 00:49:53.760 --> 00:49:58.159 a costly thing, a net loss overall. Now these bases 879 00:49:58.199 --> 00:50:02.400 are still there, and they are are still relatively functional, 880 00:50:02.719 --> 00:50:05.440 not with those old radar systems, of course. But yeah, 881 00:50:05.480 --> 00:50:09.159 so Trump was going through the process of releasing the land, 882 00:50:09.199 --> 00:50:11.840 if I'm not mistaken, leasing I don't know if he 883 00:50:11.960 --> 00:50:14.800 outright bought the spaces or not, but leasing them to 884 00:50:14.840 --> 00:50:19.639 that point. So, yeah, Greenland has ties with America. We're 885 00:50:19.679 --> 00:50:21.920 not like, We're not as thick as thieves with them, 886 00:50:21.960 --> 00:50:24.519 as like America is with Israel by any means. But yes, 887 00:50:24.559 --> 00:50:28.039 Greenland and America have a very very good working relationship 888 00:50:28.039 --> 00:50:31.400 and we have for decades. So this is the thing 889 00:50:31.559 --> 00:50:34.480 when the Greenlanders are saying that they are worried about 890 00:50:34.519 --> 00:50:39.360 Trump taking it by force. I have no no beliefs 891 00:50:39.559 --> 00:50:43.119 as of this moment that Trump is going to actually 892 00:50:43.239 --> 00:50:47.639 launch some sort of a military campaign to take over Greenland. 893 00:50:47.719 --> 00:50:51.039 That sounds preposterous to me at this time. I could 894 00:50:51.039 --> 00:50:54.280 be wrong. I could absolutely be wrong, but I just 895 00:50:54.320 --> 00:50:58.480 don't see it as of this moment. But we shall see. Apparently, 896 00:50:58.519 --> 00:51:04.079 Denmark caught quote unquote spies that were trying to spread 897 00:51:04.480 --> 00:51:09.119 disinformation or information into the Greenlander culture to make the 898 00:51:09.199 --> 00:51:13.079 public want to become US citizens. Was that accurate or not? 899 00:51:13.360 --> 00:51:15.679 Everybody's kind of playing the deny game. So I do 900 00:51:15.800 --> 00:51:19.800 not know, but I think it is interesting. Go ahead, Sam, 901 00:51:21.559 --> 00:51:22.519 This just might be. 902 00:51:22.519 --> 00:51:26.239 The propaganda that's instilled me or whatever. But I would 903 00:51:26.679 --> 00:51:31.079 if like, Greenland is such a good place strategically and everything, 904 00:51:31.119 --> 00:51:35.280 but they are not quote unquote strong enough whatever. I 905 00:51:35.400 --> 00:51:38.000 might be getting them mixed up. But want they neutraled 906 00:51:38.039 --> 00:51:39.159 on World War Two? 907 00:51:41.920 --> 00:51:45.639 Yes? Which is I mean they were so they weren't 908 00:51:45.679 --> 00:51:49.440 owned by Denmark at that time. If I'm not mistaken, 909 00:51:49.840 --> 00:51:53.079 that happened after World War two, or maybe they were, 910 00:51:53.159 --> 00:51:54.840 but they were so far off the beaten path, like 911 00:51:55.239 --> 00:51:59.719 if to my knowledge, there was no Greenlander units being 912 00:51:59.719 --> 00:52:03.079 feed fielded in any field of battle during World War Two. 913 00:52:03.559 --> 00:52:07.199 I mean, again, they have a very low population as 914 00:52:07.239 --> 00:52:09.159 compared to the land mass that they have. 915 00:52:10.199 --> 00:52:13.400 Why would they not want I mean, I understand taxes 916 00:52:13.559 --> 00:52:21.800 is a motherfucker, but why wouldn't they want to join America? 917 00:52:22.400 --> 00:52:23.360 Tacos. 918 00:52:23.639 --> 00:52:27.880 They're a proud people with a proud culture. And you know, 919 00:52:27.960 --> 00:52:32.400 even though America is the only superpower on Earth, as 920 00:52:32.440 --> 00:52:35.079 of this moment. You know, maybe they just want to 921 00:52:35.079 --> 00:52:36.920 do their own thing. And I don't think it has 922 00:52:36.920 --> 00:52:40.079 to do necessarily with American corrupt politicians or taxes or 923 00:52:40.119 --> 00:52:42.559 anything like that. I think it's just they want to 924 00:52:42.639 --> 00:52:45.039 be owned by Greenland. The same could be said for 925 00:52:45.119 --> 00:52:49.119 Ireland with England, right, Northern Ireland is still a part 926 00:52:49.159 --> 00:52:52.360 of the United Kingdom, even though it's on the island 927 00:52:52.400 --> 00:52:54.519 of Ireland. Well, why wouldn't they want to be a 928 00:52:54.519 --> 00:52:58.199 part of England. England is doing far more successfully than 929 00:52:58.199 --> 00:53:01.239 they are on the world stage, even to this because 930 00:53:01.280 --> 00:53:04.159 the Irish are a very proud people and want an 931 00:53:04.199 --> 00:53:10.760 Irish owned Ireland. And I understand that point British right, right, 932 00:53:10.800 --> 00:53:13.199 But that's that's my point. So why wouldn't Greenland want 933 00:53:13.239 --> 00:53:15.360 to be a part of us? Like we just heard 934 00:53:15.400 --> 00:53:17.800 from the people on the ground there, the people that 935 00:53:17.880 --> 00:53:20.599 live there, some would be in favor of it. Most 936 00:53:20.760 --> 00:53:23.360 want Greenland to be if anything, they wanted to be 937 00:53:23.480 --> 00:53:27.760 autonomous and sovereign. So again I understand the points. Again 938 00:53:27.920 --> 00:53:29.760 I don't I don't think that we are at any 939 00:53:29.880 --> 00:53:33.199 risk of actually enveloping Greenland into the fold of the 940 00:53:33.320 --> 00:53:36.519 US States and territories. But I guess time will tell. 941 00:53:37.239 --> 00:53:40.360 But as we are talking about US politics and Trump 942 00:53:40.440 --> 00:53:43.599 and things, let's talk about ABC News here. Trump is 943 00:53:44.239 --> 00:53:48.280 very angry with Putin as russia strikes on Ukraine continue 944 00:53:48.360 --> 00:53:51.840 despite the peace push. As everybody knows, Trump just had 945 00:53:51.840 --> 00:53:54.360 this big meeting with Putin in Alaska and he felt 946 00:53:54.480 --> 00:53:56.480 very good about it. Afterwards, he was saying that I 947 00:53:56.519 --> 00:53:59.800 think Putin really wants peace. I think he really does. Then, 948 00:54:00.039 --> 00:54:02.280 of course the strikes continue. There's a quick little forty 949 00:54:02.360 --> 00:54:04.199 five second clip, and then we're going to read the article. 950 00:54:04.280 --> 00:54:04.920 Let's listen in. 951 00:54:05.960 --> 00:54:08.599 President Trump says he is very angry with Vladimir Putin 952 00:54:08.639 --> 00:54:11.440 as Russia keeps striking Ukraine despite a White House push 953 00:54:11.480 --> 00:54:14.719 for peace. Ukraine says a shot down forty seven Russian 954 00:54:14.800 --> 00:54:18.440 drones overnight and twelve others hit targets across the country. Meanwhile, 955 00:54:18.519 --> 00:54:21.639 Russia says it down to more than fifty Ukrainian drones overnight, 956 00:54:21.679 --> 00:54:25.599 including two headed for Moscow. Yesterday. President Trump voiced frustration 957 00:54:25.719 --> 00:54:29.039 with the Russian leader about the strikes. Every conversation I 958 00:54:29.119 --> 00:54:32.159 have with him is a good conversation. And then unfortunately 959 00:54:32.239 --> 00:54:35.840 Obama is loaded up into Kiev for someplace and then 960 00:54:35.880 --> 00:54:36.400 I get. 961 00:54:36.320 --> 00:54:37.119 Very angry about it. 962 00:54:39.199 --> 00:54:41.920 But President Trump says he's still hopeful for a peace deal, 963 00:54:42.199 --> 00:54:44.480 and President Zelenski says he's ready to meet with Putin, 964 00:54:45.079 --> 00:54:48.480 calling it the format needed to resolve key issues. Now, 965 00:54:48.519 --> 00:54:50.840 he says the same readiness is needed in Moscow. 966 00:54:52.119 --> 00:54:54.800 So how much of that is accurate? How much of 967 00:54:54.800 --> 00:54:58.079 that is Zelenski just trying to feed into whatever Trump 968 00:54:58.159 --> 00:54:59.960 is saying so he can get more weapons of money. 969 00:55:00.320 --> 00:55:02.039 I don't know. Let's read in here. This is from 970 00:55:02.199 --> 00:55:05.920 ABC News London. President Trump again on Monday express frustration 971 00:55:05.960 --> 00:55:08.639 with the Russian counterpart, Vladimir Putin, as Russian strikes on 972 00:55:08.719 --> 00:55:13.320 Ukrainian or Ukraine continued despite White House efforts to broker 973 00:55:13.360 --> 00:55:16.320 a peace deal between the warring neighbors. There's a direct 974 00:55:16.360 --> 00:55:17.960 quote of what he literally just said, So I'm not 975 00:55:18.000 --> 00:55:21.159 going to read that. Trump has repeatedly admonished Putin for 976 00:55:21.280 --> 00:55:25.760 Russia's nightly strikes on Ukrainian cities. Nonetheless, the president'sal reporters 977 00:55:25.760 --> 00:55:28.360 he is still hopeful of progress towards a peace deal, 978 00:55:29.159 --> 00:55:31.920 he says. I think we're going to get the war done, 979 00:55:32.119 --> 00:55:35.079 he said, though added you never know what's gonna happen 980 00:55:35.119 --> 00:55:38.000 in a war. Strange things happen in a war. The 981 00:55:38.079 --> 00:55:41.760 fact that Putin went to Alaska, our country, I think 982 00:55:41.920 --> 00:55:44.320 is a big statement that he wants to get it done, 983 00:55:44.840 --> 00:55:48.079 you know again, actions and words on that one, my boy. 984 00:55:48.360 --> 00:55:51.760 Both Russia and Ukraine continued long range strikes through the 985 00:55:51.800 --> 00:55:55.480 weekend and into Monday. On Tuesday, Ukraine's Air Force said 986 00:55:55.559 --> 00:55:59.039 Russia launched fifty nine drones into the country overnight, of 987 00:55:59.079 --> 00:56:02.239 which forty seven and were shot down or suppressed. The 988 00:56:02.280 --> 00:56:06.239 air force reported impacts of twelve drones across nine locations. 989 00:56:06.519 --> 00:56:09.559 Russia's Defense ministry meanwhile said that it's forced down at 990 00:56:09.639 --> 00:56:12.400 least fifty one Ukrainian drones over night and Tuesday morning, 991 00:56:12.519 --> 00:56:15.880 to which two of which were en route to Moscow. 992 00:56:16.440 --> 00:56:19.360 Following in person meetings with Putin and Alaska and Ukrainian 993 00:56:19.360 --> 00:56:22.880 President Zelensky plus a host of European leaders in Washington, DC, 994 00:56:23.360 --> 00:56:27.239 earlier this month, Trump raised the hope that excuse me 995 00:56:27.320 --> 00:56:30.039 raised the hope of an imminent bilateral meeting between Russia 996 00:56:30.039 --> 00:56:34.079 and Ukrainian presidents. Zelenski has repeatedly expressed willingness to attend 997 00:56:34.119 --> 00:56:36.519 such a meeting, but Putin and his officials have consistently 998 00:56:36.599 --> 00:56:39.400 dodged the proposal. Maybe they will, maybe they won't. The 999 00:56:39.440 --> 00:56:42.280 president's old ABC News Monday of the potential of the 1000 00:56:42.280 --> 00:56:44.760 two men to meet, Trump said he had spoken to 1001 00:56:44.840 --> 00:56:48.039 Putin sin Zelenski's visit to Washington, but declined to discuss 1002 00:56:48.079 --> 00:56:50.800 the specifics of the call, as if you wanted to 1003 00:56:50.880 --> 00:56:55.800 act if of the bilateral meeting does not materialize. Trump 1004 00:56:55.840 --> 00:56:59.159 refused to detail possible consequences, but said he may act 1005 00:56:59.320 --> 00:57:03.760 over the next week or two, as that's typically the rhetoric, right, 1006 00:57:03.800 --> 00:57:05.239 give me a little more time, a little more time, 1007 00:57:05.320 --> 00:57:08.400 little more time. It's very possible that Trump won't be 1008 00:57:08.440 --> 00:57:12.159 able to broker this deal, you know it honestly might 1009 00:57:12.239 --> 00:57:15.199 just come down to an all out, knockdown, drag out 1010 00:57:15.320 --> 00:57:18.320 slug vest until both sides decide that they're done. I 1011 00:57:18.360 --> 00:57:20.159 hope that a deal could be reached, but I just 1012 00:57:20.679 --> 00:57:23.119 I don't see it as of this moment. Uspe's efforts 1013 00:57:23.159 --> 00:57:25.719 continued on Monday, with Secretary of State Mark or Rubio 1014 00:57:25.760 --> 00:57:30.559 speaking with European counterparts and Trump's Ukraine envoy Keith Kellogg 1015 00:57:30.719 --> 00:57:35.599 traveling to Kiev to meet with Zelensky. For both US officials, 1016 00:57:35.719 --> 00:57:39.000 the question of future security guarantees for Ukraine to prevent 1017 00:57:39.039 --> 00:57:42.599 future Russian aggression was a key topic of discussion. Obviously, 1018 00:57:43.079 --> 00:57:48.840 Ukrainian Foreign Minister Adril Sibyha Sibiha sib Yah Sure took 1019 00:57:48.880 --> 00:57:52.360 part in the call with Rubio I reiterated Ukraine's position 1020 00:57:52.639 --> 00:57:56.639 that security guarantees must be concrete, legally binding and effective. 1021 00:57:56.679 --> 00:57:59.480 He wrote on x after they should be multi dimensional, 1022 00:57:59.519 --> 00:58:03.679 including military, diplomatic, legal, and other levels. Zelenski said his 1023 00:58:03.719 --> 00:58:07.079 meeting with Kellogg was productive, quote unquote, again expressing his 1024 00:58:07.239 --> 00:58:09.760 thanks to Trump's effort to broker a deal and his 1025 00:58:09.840 --> 00:58:14.960 willingness to lend US backing to security guarantees. Kellogg meanwhile 1026 00:58:15.000 --> 00:58:17.800 said the US side is working very very hard to 1027 00:58:18.280 --> 00:58:21.760 get to a position where in the near term we have, 1028 00:58:21.960 --> 00:58:25.480 with a lack of better terms, security guarantees. That's a 1029 00:58:25.519 --> 00:58:29.840 work in progress. So just keeping everybody in the loop 1030 00:58:29.880 --> 00:58:32.320 on this one. To the surprise of literally no one, 1031 00:58:32.480 --> 00:58:35.400 Trump's still trying to brok her a peace deal. Zelensky 1032 00:58:35.480 --> 00:58:38.239 is saying that he's about that life putin to the 1033 00:58:38.280 --> 00:58:41.280 face to face says that he or he releases indicating 1034 00:58:41.280 --> 00:58:44.039 that he wants a peace deal. Neither side is willing 1035 00:58:44.079 --> 00:58:46.079 to stop firing at each other long enough to make 1036 00:58:46.119 --> 00:58:49.719 a meeting happen. Will that meeting happen soon, Let's hope. 1037 00:58:50.480 --> 00:58:52.360 As we are still in the summer months, there is 1038 00:58:52.440 --> 00:58:56.039 still massive surges and pushes going on on the warfront, 1039 00:58:56.400 --> 00:58:58.719 we are about to get into the winter months where 1040 00:58:59.119 --> 00:59:01.440 not much movements go to happen. If the last three 1041 00:59:01.559 --> 00:59:05.920 years of this two week military operation is to be believed, 1042 00:59:05.960 --> 00:59:09.519 the wintertime is not going to see much substantial gains, 1043 00:59:09.599 --> 00:59:13.559 but pretty substantial losses overall. So just wanted to keep 1044 00:59:13.599 --> 00:59:17.239 everybody in the loop on that one. With that being said, 1045 00:59:17.400 --> 00:59:21.280 the UK has offered troops to defend Ukraine's skies and 1046 00:59:21.400 --> 00:59:25.360 ports in Pentagon talks. As from the Guardian, officials say 1047 00:59:25.719 --> 00:59:28.119 the UK is prepared to deploy troops to the front 1048 00:59:28.199 --> 00:59:31.400 line with Russia as head of Armed Forces prepares to 1049 00:59:31.440 --> 00:59:37.400 meet US counterparts in Russia in Washington. I'm a little 1050 00:59:37.440 --> 00:59:39.880 skeptic of some of the claims that this article is 1051 00:59:39.880 --> 00:59:42.400 gonna make, and you'll understand why as we go through it. 1052 00:59:43.079 --> 00:59:45.880 The UK has said for a while that they are 1053 00:59:46.119 --> 00:59:53.199 very willing to send their forces there for consultative conversations, 1054 00:59:53.480 --> 00:59:57.559 AID kind of you know, missions and things like that. 1055 00:59:58.320 --> 01:00:01.360 There hasn't been any talks of u UK soldiers and 1056 01:00:01.440 --> 01:00:05.440 marines being sent to the front lines. That's a new 1057 01:00:05.480 --> 01:00:09.119 one for me. But at the same time, maybe there 1058 01:00:09.199 --> 01:00:10.960 is a kernel of truth to this. Let's read and 1059 01:00:11.039 --> 01:00:13.320 y'all make your own decision on that. The head of 1060 01:00:13.320 --> 01:00:16.119 the British Armed Forces will tell his American counterparts the 1061 01:00:16.239 --> 01:00:19.119 UK is prepared to send troops to defend Ukraine's skies 1062 01:00:19.159 --> 01:00:21.559 and seas, but not to the front lines with Russia. 1063 01:00:21.599 --> 01:00:27.039 As planning intensifies for a post war settlement exactly, Tony Radikin, 1064 01:00:27.119 --> 01:00:30.199 the Chief of Defense Staff, will on Wednesday attend meetings 1065 01:00:30.199 --> 01:00:33.679 at the Pentagon designed to finalize what thirty different countries 1066 01:00:33.719 --> 01:00:37.639 are willing to commit to Ukraine's national security. I will 1067 01:00:37.679 --> 01:00:41.199 say this though, before we continue any deeper. If the 1068 01:00:41.280 --> 01:00:47.280 UK was to send any type of manpower and one 1069 01:00:47.440 --> 01:00:50.719 of these UK soldiers happened to get hit in some 1070 01:00:50.800 --> 01:00:54.280 crossfire or something like that, I could envision a world 1071 01:00:54.320 --> 01:00:58.519 where that is the catalyst for a very deep UK 1072 01:00:58.719 --> 01:01:01.400 to the frontline kind of thing. I'm not saying that's 1073 01:01:01.400 --> 01:01:04.719 a guarantee. I am saying that it is at least 1074 01:01:04.800 --> 01:01:06.840 a greater than zero percent chance that that could be 1075 01:01:06.920 --> 01:01:11.480 the kickstart, if you will. Radikin is expected to confirm 1076 01:01:11.639 --> 01:01:14.599 the UK will provide soldiers to help with logistical support 1077 01:01:14.639 --> 01:01:17.599 and training, but not deploy them close to Russia. Officials 1078 01:01:17.679 --> 01:01:20.039 have been talking about deploying as many as thirty thousand 1079 01:01:20.039 --> 01:01:23.360 troops to protect Ukrainian sites, but that has been scaled 1080 01:01:23.400 --> 01:01:27.119 back amid opposition from some European countries. One British official 1081 01:01:27.199 --> 01:01:30.480 said Wednesday is a really important moment. Nothing happens in 1082 01:01:30.599 --> 01:01:33.519 Washington without the President giving the green light. So Trump 1083 01:01:33.519 --> 01:01:36.760 giving his support to security guarantees on Monday kickstarted a 1084 01:01:36.800 --> 01:01:40.360 lot of activity. Another said Radikin would echo the pledges 1085 01:01:40.400 --> 01:01:43.440 made last week by John Healey, the Defense Secretary, who 1086 01:01:43.480 --> 01:01:47.559 said Britain was willing to deploy troops to Ukraine quote 1087 01:01:47.760 --> 01:01:50.960 to secure the sky's safeties and to build the strength 1088 01:01:51.000 --> 01:01:54.840 of the Ukrainian forces end quote. They said ministry or 1089 01:01:54.960 --> 01:02:02.039 ministers envisioned, envisaged. I think that's supposed to be envisioned. 1090 01:02:02.599 --> 01:02:06.360 They said. Ministers envisioned this as a meeting, logistical and 1091 01:02:06.400 --> 01:02:09.440 training support, rather than sending battalions of frontline troops who 1092 01:02:09.440 --> 01:02:12.119 could end up in combat. Let's hope that that stays 1093 01:02:12.159 --> 01:02:15.679 that way. Wednesday's meetings are being seen in Europe as 1094 01:02:15.719 --> 01:02:18.880 a major step towards securing a peace deal between Russia 1095 01:02:18.880 --> 01:02:21.760 and Ukraine, which Keir Starmer has said will only be 1096 01:02:21.800 --> 01:02:24.840 possible if the US is willing to provide security guarantees. 1097 01:02:25.480 --> 01:02:30.719 They keep going on about security guarantees, y'all. Even if 1098 01:02:30.880 --> 01:02:35.119 security guarantees are laid down, what's to say that either 1099 01:02:35.199 --> 01:02:41.280 side will actually abide by them? Like realistically here be 1100 01:02:41.599 --> 01:02:43.880 We even talked about that whenever Trump tried to get 1101 01:02:44.320 --> 01:02:48.960 a mineral deal with the eastern section of Ukraine that 1102 01:02:49.039 --> 01:02:51.519 had a lot of these precious rare earths and things 1103 01:02:51.559 --> 01:02:54.840 like that. Right, even if an American company was to 1104 01:02:54.920 --> 01:02:58.480 set up shop a mining operation of some type, do 1105 01:02:58.519 --> 01:03:01.679 we know for ef fact now we can believe things. 1106 01:03:02.360 --> 01:03:04.480 Do we know for a fact that that would stop 1107 01:03:04.519 --> 01:03:08.400 the Russian war machine, that just because there's an American 1108 01:03:08.440 --> 01:03:12.079 company doing business here, that Russia would not still try 1109 01:03:12.079 --> 01:03:15.039 to push and take those precious rare earths for themselves. 1110 01:03:16.119 --> 01:03:18.360 I can't say with one hundred percent certainty that I 1111 01:03:18.360 --> 01:03:22.760 can believe that. I think that would be a massive misstep. 1112 01:03:23.039 --> 01:03:26.119 But so is this entire military operation two weeks has 1113 01:03:26.159 --> 01:03:29.440 turned into coming up on year four. It's been one 1114 01:03:29.440 --> 01:03:33.039 misstep after another. So I don't know where the line 1115 01:03:33.079 --> 01:03:34.800 is actually going to get drawn in the sand. And 1116 01:03:34.840 --> 01:03:36.880 even if it does get drawn in the sand, do 1117 01:03:36.960 --> 01:03:39.480 we know that Ukraine will stop firing things? Do we 1118 01:03:39.559 --> 01:03:41.840 know that Russia will stop firing things? I have a 1119 01:03:41.840 --> 01:03:44.559 hard time believing it as of this moment. But anyway, 1120 01:03:45.719 --> 01:03:48.480 Donald Trump, the US President, told Starmer and other world 1121 01:03:48.559 --> 01:03:51.320 leaders on Monday he would be willing to provide those guarantees. 1122 01:03:51.719 --> 01:03:55.199 His Ukraine envoy, Steve Whitkoff, has suggested they could be 1123 01:03:55.840 --> 01:03:59.360 Article five like reassurances, referring to the NATO clause that 1124 01:03:59.440 --> 01:04:02.320 says that an attack on one member should be interpreted 1125 01:04:02.360 --> 01:04:05.199 as an attack on all, even though Ukraine is not 1126 01:04:05.280 --> 01:04:08.719 a NATO member. Starmer hosted a virtual call on Tuesday 1127 01:04:08.719 --> 01:04:11.760 morning to brief more than thirty other world leaders on 1128 01:04:11.840 --> 01:04:13.840 what had been discussed at the White House on Monday. 1129 01:04:14.199 --> 01:04:17.840 Downing Street said afterwards quote the Prime Minister outlined that 1130 01:04:18.039 --> 01:04:21.719 coalition of the Willing planning teams would meet with their 1131 01:04:21.840 --> 01:04:24.639 US counterparts in the coming days to further strengthen plans 1132 01:04:24.639 --> 01:04:28.280 to deliver robust security guarantees and prepare for the deployment 1133 01:04:28.320 --> 01:04:31.880 of a reassurance force if the hostilities ended. I guess 1134 01:04:31.960 --> 01:04:35.000 we'll see. Wednesday's planning session at the Pentagon are being 1135 01:04:35.039 --> 01:04:37.400 closely watched for any signs of what the US would 1136 01:04:37.400 --> 01:04:42.079 be willing to commit. The USS committed quite a lot already. 1137 01:04:42.920 --> 01:04:45.920 I think that goes without saying, more so than any 1138 01:04:46.119 --> 01:04:50.679 combination of countries. But all right. Trump insisted on Tuesday 1139 01:04:50.719 --> 01:04:53.840 they would not involve American troops on the ground, telling 1140 01:04:53.840 --> 01:04:56.960 Fox News you have my assurance on that, and I'm President, 1141 01:04:57.639 --> 01:04:59.960 I'm glad you told us. We didn't know beforehand, homie. 1142 01:05:00.119 --> 01:05:02.239 But Britain is also planning to use the meetings to 1143 01:05:02.360 --> 01:05:05.199 spell out to the Trump administration what it is willing 1144 01:05:05.239 --> 01:05:07.480 to do to protect the Ukraine should a piece deal 1145 01:05:07.519 --> 01:05:10.480 be signed. Official say British forces could be deployed to 1146 01:05:10.519 --> 01:05:14.000 help with the logistics and protecting Ukrainian airspace imports, but 1147 01:05:14.280 --> 01:05:20.840 not into situations that could risk combat with Russia airspace imports. 1148 01:05:21.519 --> 01:05:24.840 These are very important for logistic purposes, but are these 1149 01:05:24.960 --> 01:05:29.639 not very you know, hotspots as far as targeting goes. 1150 01:05:31.199 --> 01:05:35.280 So let's say that you have a bunch of British liaisons, 1151 01:05:35.360 --> 01:05:39.400 for lack of better words, operating a Ukrainian port and 1152 01:05:39.440 --> 01:05:42.960 that port starts getting lit up by a drone attack 1153 01:05:43.079 --> 01:05:48.039 or whatever that mould makes sense, or an airstrip because 1154 01:05:48.039 --> 01:05:52.840 we're trying to secure Ukrainian airspace. That's yeah, it might 1155 01:05:52.840 --> 01:05:56.480 not be front line, but the damage, in the possibility 1156 01:05:56.480 --> 01:06:00.519 of danger is still very present. So I don't Yeah, 1157 01:06:00.599 --> 01:06:03.119 I don't exactly understand what they're trying to get at here. 1158 01:06:03.159 --> 01:06:07.199 Either go there and help or stay back. I don't know. 1159 01:06:07.360 --> 01:06:11.199 Maybe I'm just looking at this too narrow mindedly. Who knows. Zelenski, 1160 01:06:11.239 --> 01:06:14.159 the Ukrainian President, said on Tuesday that he expected the 1161 01:06:14.199 --> 01:06:17.400 security guarantees to be finalized in the week or in 1162 01:06:17.440 --> 01:06:20.639 the next week or ten days. Some experts say that 1163 01:06:20.760 --> 01:06:23.679 European leaders do not expect Vladimir Putin to accept even 1164 01:06:23.880 --> 01:06:27.239 such a limited deployment of NATO troops into Ukraine, and 1165 01:06:27.280 --> 01:06:30.400 that European leaders are floating the idea to isolate the 1166 01:06:30.480 --> 01:06:34.000 Russian president, that it's kind of been the jam this 1167 01:06:34.039 --> 01:06:38.039 whole time. British officials insist this is not the case, however, 1168 01:06:38.119 --> 01:06:40.760 and that the UK and its partners are making serious 1169 01:06:40.800 --> 01:06:44.039 preparations to send forces into the country should they be needed. 1170 01:06:44.440 --> 01:06:47.079 You don't get thirty chiefs of staff coming to the 1171 01:06:47.119 --> 01:06:51.039 Pentagon if they are not serious about this, said one. Okay, 1172 01:06:51.079 --> 01:06:55.599 fair enough, all right, Uh, just gonna throw it out here. 1173 01:06:55.719 --> 01:06:58.000 I know, Tony, you have to have an opinion on 1174 01:06:58.039 --> 01:07:00.920 this conversation. Please let it be heard at this time, sir. 1175 01:07:02.239 --> 01:07:05.760 Yeah, I just still think this isn't making any difference, 1176 01:07:05.960 --> 01:07:10.119 and Russia's still gonna slowly grind forward and take more territory. 1177 01:07:10.159 --> 01:07:15.760 They're taking a place called mir Negrod and Pakrovsk right now. 1178 01:07:15.800 --> 01:07:18.440 Those are kind of the two medium sized cities that 1179 01:07:18.519 --> 01:07:23.639 are being fought over, and Russia's gonna win this. I 1180 01:07:23.719 --> 01:07:26.000 get kind of tired of seeing the same things over 1181 01:07:26.039 --> 01:07:28.480 and over, Like we're going to isolate putin more. It's 1182 01:07:28.480 --> 01:07:30.599 like you've already tried as hard as you can. We're 1183 01:07:30.639 --> 01:07:34.360 going to sanction him more. You've already tried pretty much 1184 01:07:34.400 --> 01:07:37.280 everything as hard as you can. It's just a little 1185 01:07:37.280 --> 01:07:40.519 bit marginal more and more more, but there's not much 1186 01:07:40.519 --> 01:07:46.239 more to do. Yeah, the Ukraine is the West's crash 1187 01:07:46.320 --> 01:07:50.480 test dummy against Russia. It's sad, and this thing's got 1188 01:07:50.480 --> 01:07:53.000 to end. But it's gonna keep going for a while, 1189 01:07:53.119 --> 01:07:56.360 so I'm still holding out hope maybe March of twenty 1190 01:07:56.400 --> 01:07:59.719 twenty six it'll be over. I think Russia's hoping that 1191 01:08:00.280 --> 01:08:04.239 someday the Ukrainian lions will just collapse. That kind of 1192 01:08:04.280 --> 01:08:07.239 thing did happen in World War One. That's kind of 1193 01:08:07.239 --> 01:08:12.639 what happened to Russia and the Central Powers moved in quickly. 1194 01:08:13.000 --> 01:08:17.079 That almost happened in France. A lot of people don't remember. 1195 01:08:17.720 --> 01:08:21.960 But this trench warfare sometimes can lead to a collapse 1196 01:08:22.000 --> 01:08:24.479 on one side, and that's what Russia's hoping for, and 1197 01:08:24.520 --> 01:08:26.600 they may get it, they may not. We don't know. 1198 01:08:27.840 --> 01:08:30.439 Yeah, I'm not agreeing with every single thing you said, 1199 01:08:30.720 --> 01:08:33.319 but I will agree with what Russia is hoping for, 1200 01:08:33.479 --> 01:08:36.720 just an overall collapse and then the fighting would stop 1201 01:08:36.760 --> 01:08:39.399 in that sense. But that's it. I don't see this 1202 01:08:39.640 --> 01:08:43.600 ending in some sort of at least as of this moment. 1203 01:08:43.760 --> 01:08:46.399 Maybe you're right about March of next year, but as 1204 01:08:46.399 --> 01:08:48.720 of right now, I don't think they're going to offer 1205 01:08:48.880 --> 01:08:52.039 terms that Putin would even entertain. I don't think that 1206 01:08:52.079 --> 01:08:54.720 they have the means to offer him what he actually 1207 01:08:54.760 --> 01:08:57.479 wants the same way that Zelenski is not going to 1208 01:08:57.560 --> 01:09:01.880 accept anything. He has said so many times that he's 1209 01:09:01.920 --> 01:09:05.960 not going to accept anything without Crimea being Ukrainian at 1210 01:09:05.960 --> 01:09:07.840 the end of it. So all of this is a 1211 01:09:07.840 --> 01:09:10.680 lot of posturing and a lot of talking. It's this 1212 01:09:10.720 --> 01:09:14.319 is not going to these these security guarantees are not 1213 01:09:14.359 --> 01:09:16.640 going to do anything in the grand scope of shit. 1214 01:09:18.159 --> 01:09:21.079 I know that Trump is the deal maker. Say what 1215 01:09:21.119 --> 01:09:22.960 you want about him. Is he an asshole? Is he 1216 01:09:23.039 --> 01:09:27.119 a good guy? All yet? Fine? Whatever? And he is 1217 01:09:27.479 --> 01:09:30.279 a businessman who literally wrote the book on the art 1218 01:09:30.279 --> 01:09:32.279 of the deal. I don't think that this is a 1219 01:09:32.319 --> 01:09:34.199 deal that he'll be able to broke her, at least 1220 01:09:34.199 --> 01:09:35.520 not with the current standings. 1221 01:09:36.840 --> 01:09:41.359 Yes, for ze Leski want to keep or get back Crimea, 1222 01:09:41.439 --> 01:09:44.399 that's impossible. That would be like Mexico losing the Mexican 1223 01:09:44.439 --> 01:09:47.119 American War and saying, well, we don't agree to lose 1224 01:09:47.279 --> 01:09:50.279 any territory. Well, guess what, You're gonna lose a bunch 1225 01:09:50.319 --> 01:09:53.039 whether you want to or not. Or Germany losing World 1226 01:09:53.039 --> 01:09:55.079 War Two and saying, well, we don't agree to lose 1227 01:09:55.119 --> 01:09:57.279 any territory, or like, guess what you're. 1228 01:09:57.119 --> 01:10:00.159 Saying, We're still here. Israel took US over like, well, 1229 01:10:00.199 --> 01:10:01.079 it looks like you're losing. 1230 01:10:02.239 --> 01:10:05.359 Uh huh, yeah, Palestine's lost a lot too. That's just 1231 01:10:05.399 --> 01:10:08.720 de facto, and you know everyone's got to live with that, 1232 01:10:08.760 --> 01:10:12.800 whether they want to or not. So yeah, I bet right. 1233 01:10:13.119 --> 01:10:15.920 I think Russia has a more realistic position, and they 1234 01:10:16.079 --> 01:10:19.880 don't do this art of the deal idea where they 1235 01:10:20.640 --> 01:10:24.520 make an exaggerated demand and then try to bargain down 1236 01:10:24.560 --> 01:10:28.279 from that. They just say pretty much exactly what they 1237 01:10:28.319 --> 01:10:31.560 want and they don't back down. They just go, hey, 1238 01:10:31.680 --> 01:10:33.960 take it or leave it. Let's draw a new border 1239 01:10:33.960 --> 01:10:36.479 pretty much where the lines are now. We can argue 1240 01:10:36.479 --> 01:10:40.279 about you know, we'll give back some assumeing in Kharkoff 1241 01:10:40.840 --> 01:10:43.119 and maybe some of the other areas we got in 1242 01:10:43.239 --> 01:10:46.560 exchange for Nikola Iver or so. I don't know, I'm 1243 01:10:46.600 --> 01:10:48.880 just making something up, but you know, they want it 1244 01:10:48.880 --> 01:10:51.439 pretty much where it is now, and they want zero 1245 01:10:51.600 --> 01:10:56.119 NATO membership for Ukraine. Uh, you know, it's got to 1246 01:10:56.119 --> 01:11:01.680 be independent of the West. And uh that's they're not 1247 01:11:01.760 --> 01:11:05.600 demanding Kiev. They're not demanding you know, half of Ukraine. 1248 01:11:05.640 --> 01:11:09.199 They're just demanding like the twenty percent they've already taken 1249 01:11:09.439 --> 01:11:13.000 or stolen or whatever. You want to characterize it, which 1250 01:11:13.039 --> 01:11:16.000 is pretty much. I think that's a pretty reasonable demand 1251 01:11:16.479 --> 01:11:19.520 and Ukraine should equit back in twenty twenty three when 1252 01:11:19.560 --> 01:11:22.359 they took his ZM back and Kharkoff back, because that 1253 01:11:22.520 --> 01:11:24.600 was as good at bargaining position as they were going 1254 01:11:24.680 --> 01:11:28.760 to have. And General Millie from the US he said 1255 01:11:28.800 --> 01:11:30.840 as much at the time. A lot of people don't 1256 01:11:30.920 --> 01:11:33.479 like him because he also told China this is an 1257 01:11:33.600 --> 01:11:37.159 unrelated thing, He told China that the US military isn't 1258 01:11:37.199 --> 01:11:40.159 going to obey Trump if Trump tries to go to 1259 01:11:40.199 --> 01:11:42.399 war with China, and a lot of people got mad 1260 01:11:42.439 --> 01:11:43.000 at him for that. 1261 01:11:44.039 --> 01:11:46.439 Yeah, I think that was him completely talking out of 1262 01:11:46.439 --> 01:11:48.760 his ass. The military will do what they're ordered to do. 1263 01:11:49.239 --> 01:11:50.640 That's a thing. 1264 01:11:51.439 --> 01:11:56.199 This was at the moment that Trump was losing the 1265 01:11:56.359 --> 01:11:59.800 twenty twenty election. This was at the moment that it 1266 01:12:00.159 --> 01:12:04.159 was like between November and January sixth, So it was 1267 01:12:04.239 --> 01:12:07.680 his grasp pump power was a little tenuous at that 1268 01:12:07.720 --> 01:12:10.800 moment anyway, and Milly was trying to reassure China about that. 1269 01:12:10.840 --> 01:12:13.359 But yeah, that was two years before this Ukraine thing 1270 01:12:13.439 --> 01:12:17.279 even happened. So when he said to Ukraine, and I 1271 01:12:17.319 --> 01:12:20.119 think it was September twenty twenty two, not even twenty 1272 01:12:20.239 --> 01:12:23.079 three yet that look, you should bargain now. I thought 1273 01:12:23.840 --> 01:12:26.920 you're one hundred percent right about that, General Milly. They 1274 01:12:27.000 --> 01:12:32.119 should bargain then make a peace agreement now. But Boris 1275 01:12:32.199 --> 01:12:36.800 Johnson didn't want it. Uncle Amercle didn't want it. And 1276 01:12:36.840 --> 01:12:40.479 I think, I know this is a conspiracy theory. But 1277 01:12:42.199 --> 01:12:48.479 there's oh good, good good night Royce. But too bad. 1278 01:12:48.640 --> 01:12:52.600 I was about to talk about this. I think that 1279 01:12:52.720 --> 01:12:55.960 Israel doesn't just exercise a lot of influence over the 1280 01:12:56.039 --> 01:12:58.640 US government, they also exercised a lot of influence over 1281 01:12:58.640 --> 01:13:02.720 the British government and the government. I think Russia is 1282 01:13:02.720 --> 01:13:07.760 a historical and modern day strategic enemy of Israel. Syria 1283 01:13:07.960 --> 01:13:12.000 was still a country at the time, and Russia supports Iran, 1284 01:13:12.439 --> 01:13:15.359 so Israel has a huge interest in damaging Russia too, 1285 01:13:15.800 --> 01:13:18.800 And that's another big reason that the Ukraine conflict is 1286 01:13:18.880 --> 01:13:22.279 going on right now. Israel does feel like it's in 1287 01:13:22.359 --> 01:13:24.079 their interests to punish Russia. 1288 01:13:24.920 --> 01:13:28.279 Either punish Russia keep them occupied in another area to 1289 01:13:28.279 --> 01:13:33.560 where they're not as invested in Iranian advancements, therefore anti 1290 01:13:33.720 --> 01:13:37.359 Israel advancements. So I'm with you on that. It's enemy 1291 01:13:37.359 --> 01:13:40.199 of my enemy kind of situation for sure. Is Royce 1292 01:13:40.199 --> 01:13:42.000 about the head out? Though I didn't look in the comments? 1293 01:13:42.079 --> 01:13:42.840 Is he about to dip? 1294 01:13:43.600 --> 01:13:43.880 Yeah? 1295 01:13:43.920 --> 01:13:45.520 I am about I am about the dip. 1296 01:13:46.119 --> 01:13:48.319 Ah. All right, Royce, Well, we love you to death 1297 01:13:48.359 --> 01:13:50.079 and thank you for joining us on this evening. 1298 01:13:51.079 --> 01:13:53.560 For sure, have a good n I guess I may too. 1299 01:13:54.960 --> 01:13:57.279 Well, are you going to talk about the flag stuff? 1300 01:13:58.880 --> 01:13:59.680 Flag stuff? 1301 01:14:01.199 --> 01:14:07.760 White House executive order prohibiting burning of the American flag? 1302 01:14:08.600 --> 01:14:12.199 I'm not mad at this. Is it like in protests 1303 01:14:12.199 --> 01:14:14.359 they can't burn the American flag? Or is it like 1304 01:14:14.760 --> 01:14:17.119 because that's the proper way to dispose of a flag 1305 01:14:17.159 --> 01:14:19.000 when it's no longer serviceable. 1306 01:14:19.680 --> 01:14:23.520 Correct, Let's get spirit animal in on this, because this 1307 01:14:23.640 --> 01:14:25.000 is a great topic he brought up. 1308 01:14:25.920 --> 01:14:27.840 Okay, let's dive in. 1309 01:14:30.880 --> 01:14:34.399 From what I understand is, I've watched his hit the 1310 01:14:35.079 --> 01:14:38.119 bitten of his speech and everything while I was at 1311 01:14:38.159 --> 01:14:42.840 work and everything. But as of right now, he's an 1312 01:14:42.840 --> 01:14:48.640 executive order that if you burn or deface the American 1313 01:14:48.680 --> 01:14:52.520 flag in a knowing a bier or to incite violence, 1314 01:14:53.319 --> 01:14:55.560 then you will be charged up to it and in 1315 01:14:55.640 --> 01:15:01.319 prison up to a year. And I feel like that that, yes, you, 1316 01:15:01.720 --> 01:15:05.600 but the populay to dispose of a flag is by 1317 01:15:05.720 --> 01:15:09.960 burning it, and that's to pay respects and everything. That's okay. 1318 01:15:10.359 --> 01:15:12.439 I think it has a lot to do with the intent, 1319 01:15:12.680 --> 01:15:15.760 Like I feel like it should be actually considered a 1320 01:15:15.760 --> 01:15:18.960 hate come honestly, So I got. 1321 01:15:18.840 --> 01:15:21.119 The executive order pulled up here as a matter of fact, 1322 01:15:21.199 --> 01:15:25.079 let's hear it straight from the Trump administration prosecuting the 1323 01:15:25.119 --> 01:15:30.079 burning of the American flag. Okay, by the authority vested 1324 01:15:30.119 --> 01:15:32.960 me as President of the by the Constitution and the 1325 01:15:33.039 --> 01:15:35.199 laws of the United States of America. It is hereby 1326 01:15:35.439 --> 01:15:39.720 ordered Section one purpose. Our great American Flag is the 1327 01:15:39.720 --> 01:15:41.920 most sacred and cherished symbol of the United States of 1328 01:15:41.960 --> 01:15:46.039 America and our American freedom, identity, and strength. Over nearly 1329 01:15:46.039 --> 01:15:48.479 two and a half centuries, many thousands of American patriots 1330 01:15:48.520 --> 01:15:50.359 have fought, bled and died to keep the stars and 1331 01:15:50.399 --> 01:15:53.439 stripes waving proudly. The American flag is a special symbol 1332 01:15:53.439 --> 01:15:56.359 in our national life that should unite and represent all 1333 01:15:56.359 --> 01:16:00.640 Americans of every background and walk of life. By secreting 1334 01:16:00.840 --> 01:16:04.359 it is uniquely offensive and provocative. It is a statement 1335 01:16:04.560 --> 01:16:09.239 of contempt, hostility, and violence against our nation. The clearest 1336 01:16:09.279 --> 01:16:12.920 possible expression of opposition to the political union that preserves 1337 01:16:12.960 --> 01:16:17.279 our rights, liberty, and security. Burning this representation of America 1338 01:16:17.399 --> 01:16:21.000 might incite violence and riot. American flag burning is also 1339 01:16:21.119 --> 01:16:24.119 used by groups of foreign nationals as a calculated act 1340 01:16:24.159 --> 01:16:27.560 to intimidate and threaten violence against Americans because of their 1341 01:16:27.680 --> 01:16:31.800 nationality and place of birth. Notwithstanding the Supreme Court's rulings 1342 01:16:31.800 --> 01:16:35.239 on the First Amendment protections, glad they gave that distinction. 1343 01:16:35.920 --> 01:16:39.800 The Court has never hailed that American flag desecration conducted 1344 01:16:39.840 --> 01:16:43.079 in a manner that is likely to incite in imminent 1345 01:16:43.239 --> 01:16:46.960 lawless action, or that is an action amounting to quote 1346 01:16:47.039 --> 01:16:52.319 unquote fighting words, is constitutionally protected. Mine Administration will act 1347 01:16:52.359 --> 01:16:55.119 to restore respect and sanctity to the American flag and 1348 01:16:55.239 --> 01:16:58.319 prosecute those who incite violence and otherwise violate our laws 1349 01:16:58.319 --> 01:17:01.039 while desecrating the symbol of our country to the fullest 1350 01:17:01.079 --> 01:17:05.680 extent permissible under any available authority. Let's see number two. 1351 01:17:06.119 --> 01:17:10.000 Measures to combat desecration of the American Flag. The Attorney 1352 01:17:10.079 --> 01:17:13.600 General shall prioritize the enforcement, to the fullest extent possible 1353 01:17:13.640 --> 01:17:15.920 of our national, criminal and civil laws against acts of 1354 01:17:15.920 --> 01:17:20.760 the American flag desecration that violate applicable content neutral laws 1355 01:17:21.000 --> 01:17:25.079 while causing harm unrelated to expression consent with the First Amendment. 1356 01:17:25.600 --> 01:17:28.319 This may include, but is not limited to, violent crimes, 1357 01:17:28.319 --> 01:17:32.880 hate crimes, illegal discrimination against American citizens or other violations 1358 01:17:32.920 --> 01:17:36.520 of American civil rights, and crimes against property and the peace, 1359 01:17:36.720 --> 01:17:40.039 as well as conspiracies and attempts to violate and aiding 1360 01:17:40.079 --> 01:17:43.640 and abetting others to violate such laws. In cases where 1361 01:17:43.680 --> 01:17:46.479 the Department of Justice or other executive departments or agencies 1362 01:17:46.560 --> 01:17:50.600 determines that an instance of American flag desecration may violate 1363 01:17:50.640 --> 01:17:55.239 an applicable state or local law, such as open burning restrictions, 1364 01:17:55.279 --> 01:17:59.720 disorderly conduct, or destructive destruction of property laws, the agencies 1365 01:17:59.720 --> 01:18:02.680 shall refer the matter to the appropriate state or local 1366 01:18:02.680 --> 01:18:06.720 authority for potential action to the maximum extent permitted by 1367 01:18:06.760 --> 01:18:10.359 the Constitution. Attorney General shall vigorously prosecute those who violate 1368 01:18:10.399 --> 01:18:13.479 our laws in ways that involve desecrating the American Flag, 1369 01:18:13.520 --> 01:18:16.039 and may pursue litigation to clarify the scope of the 1370 01:18:16.079 --> 01:18:20.760 First Amendment exceptions in this area. The Dendum d the 1371 01:18:20.800 --> 01:18:23.840 Secretary of State, Attorney General, and the Secretary of Homeland Security, 1372 01:18:23.880 --> 01:18:27.560 acting within their respective authorities shall deny, prohibit, terminate, and 1373 01:18:27.680 --> 01:18:33.520 revoke visas, residents, permits, naturalization proceedings, and other immigration benefits, 1374 01:18:33.640 --> 01:18:37.000 or seek removal from the United States pursuing to federal law, 1375 01:18:37.720 --> 01:18:42.039 whenever there is been an appropriate determination that foreign nationals 1376 01:18:42.119 --> 01:18:46.359 have engaged in American flag desecration activity under circumstances that 1377 01:18:46.399 --> 01:18:49.640 permit the exercise of such remedies pursuant to federal law. 1378 01:18:50.760 --> 01:18:53.760 You know, before I continue this, yeah, there's only a 1379 01:18:53.800 --> 01:18:57.159 little bit left. But I'm just gonna say if I 1380 01:18:57.239 --> 01:19:00.720 was going to try to take up residency in Germany, 1381 01:19:01.960 --> 01:19:04.600 legal or illegal, and then I would go to a 1382 01:19:04.640 --> 01:19:10.840 protest and burn the German flag, you know, I'm pretty 1383 01:19:10.840 --> 01:19:13.479 sure that that would be like an extra slap in 1384 01:19:13.479 --> 01:19:16.079 the face, like, Yo, you don't have to be here 1385 01:19:15.760 --> 01:19:18.920 if you're not a citizen. But I understand this goes 1386 01:19:18.920 --> 01:19:21.880 a little bit further than just foreign nationals and things 1387 01:19:22.000 --> 01:19:26.199 like that, So let's keep going here. Severability if any 1388 01:19:26.199 --> 01:19:30.159 provisions of this Order or the application of any provisions 1389 01:19:30.199 --> 01:19:33.960 to any person or circumstances held to be invalid, the 1390 01:19:34.039 --> 01:19:36.800 remainder of this Order and the application of its provisions 1391 01:19:36.800 --> 01:19:40.199 to any other person's or circumstances shall not be affected 1392 01:19:40.239 --> 01:19:44.319 thereby no Section four. Nothing in this Order shall be 1393 01:19:44.359 --> 01:19:48.680 construed to impair or otherwise affect the authority granted by 1394 01:19:48.800 --> 01:19:52.079 law to an executive department or agency or head thereof, 1395 01:19:52.600 --> 01:19:56.680 or the functions of the Director of the Office Management 1396 01:19:56.800 --> 01:20:01.720 and Budget relating to budgetary, administrative, or legislative proposal. This 1397 01:20:01.880 --> 01:20:05.359 Order shall be implemented consistent with applicable law and subject 1398 01:20:05.399 --> 01:20:11.159 to available availability of appropriations. This Order is not intended to, 1399 01:20:11.319 --> 01:20:17.119 and does not create, any right or benefit, substantive or procedural, 1400 01:20:17.640 --> 01:20:21.399 enforceable at law or in equity by any party against 1401 01:20:21.439 --> 01:20:25.399 the United States, It's departments, agencies, or entities, its officers, employees, 1402 01:20:25.520 --> 01:20:28.560 or agents, or any other person. The cost for publication 1403 01:20:28.640 --> 01:20:31.279 of this Order shall be borne by the Department of Justice. Okay, 1404 01:20:32.079 --> 01:20:34.439 So essentially they're saying that if you're at a protest 1405 01:20:34.479 --> 01:20:37.039 and you're going to desecrate the flag, you may be 1406 01:20:37.279 --> 01:20:41.439 convicted for this. This might be an arrestable offense, it says, 1407 01:20:41.479 --> 01:20:44.000 to the fullest extent of the law. It brought up 1408 01:20:44.560 --> 01:20:49.399 personal property. So like, if you're at a protest, regardless 1409 01:20:49.439 --> 01:20:51.439 of what the reason for the protest is or your 1410 01:20:51.439 --> 01:20:54.760 political leanings, because it didn't specify that. If you're at 1411 01:20:54.760 --> 01:20:58.079 a political protest and you see that there's a business 1412 01:20:58.319 --> 01:21:01.479 with a storefront who has an American flag waving outside 1413 01:21:01.520 --> 01:21:04.199 their door, if you take that flag down and then 1414 01:21:04.199 --> 01:21:07.399 publicly burn it, you just stole someone's private property and 1415 01:21:07.439 --> 01:21:10.439 then desecrate the flags. That's gonna be like a double whammy. 1416 01:21:11.079 --> 01:21:14.960 But then what would be like the indictment would be 1417 01:21:15.039 --> 01:21:18.640 for the cost of the flag and some I don't know. 1418 01:21:18.680 --> 01:21:20.399 I don't know to what extent of the law they're 1419 01:21:20.399 --> 01:21:24.399 trying to turn this, but I gotta say, and I 1420 01:21:24.439 --> 01:21:28.039 know that I'm very biased on this. I'm not necessarily 1421 01:21:28.079 --> 01:21:32.479 against this. I understand First Amendment, right, I understand freedom 1422 01:21:32.520 --> 01:21:35.840 of self expression. I'm all in favor of this too. 1423 01:21:35.960 --> 01:21:38.640 Even if I disagree with somebody's point, I will fight 1424 01:21:38.680 --> 01:21:40.600 to the death for them to have the ability to 1425 01:21:40.720 --> 01:21:41.560 say that point. 1426 01:21:41.720 --> 01:21:41.880 Right. 1427 01:21:41.960 --> 01:21:47.000 I'm with this same time, I care a little too 1428 01:21:47.079 --> 01:21:49.520 much about the flag. You know, I understand it's just 1429 01:21:49.520 --> 01:21:52.039 a cloth. I get that it's just a symbol, and 1430 01:21:52.079 --> 01:21:54.159 symbols only have as much power as you give them. 1431 01:21:54.319 --> 01:21:57.760 I understand that. But there's a reason why I've flown 1432 01:21:57.760 --> 01:22:00.479 an American flag outside of my house for the past 1433 01:22:00.920 --> 01:22:04.319 ten years, and there's a reason why. Whenever it becomes 1434 01:22:04.399 --> 01:22:07.359 unserviceable and all torn up and tattered, I actually go 1435 01:22:07.399 --> 01:22:11.359 through the process of cutting it in the specific order 1436 01:22:11.399 --> 01:22:13.319 to which you're supposed to do it. I've actually done 1437 01:22:13.439 --> 01:22:16.600 flag burnings in my backyard with my children in the appropriate, 1438 01:22:16.640 --> 01:22:19.800 respectful way and how you're supposed to do this right, 1439 01:22:19.880 --> 01:22:22.880 to teach them to respect this flag and what it represents. 1440 01:22:23.720 --> 01:22:26.399 So I don't know. Maybe I'm too much of a 1441 01:22:26.439 --> 01:22:30.760 patriot for the conversation, but I'm not necessarily against this. 1442 01:22:30.840 --> 01:22:32.880 I don't think anybody should be burning the American flag 1443 01:22:32.920 --> 01:22:35.600 if you're an American citizen, for sure, if you hate 1444 01:22:35.640 --> 01:22:37.640 America that much and you're burning the flag because you 1445 01:22:37.640 --> 01:22:40.199 don't like it here like, no one is stopping you 1446 01:22:40.239 --> 01:22:43.439 from leaving. We have gates to keep people out, we 1447 01:22:43.520 --> 01:22:45.760 have you know, or we have fences to keep people out. 1448 01:22:45.800 --> 01:22:48.720 We have gates to you know, let people go there. 1449 01:22:49.000 --> 01:22:51.159 You can get a passport and fly wherever you want 1450 01:22:51.199 --> 01:22:53.840 and start a new life somewhere. Best of luck to you, 1451 01:22:53.920 --> 01:22:57.640 and no hard feelings, I don't know, and especially if 1452 01:22:57.640 --> 01:23:01.399 you are a foreign national and you come to America 1453 01:23:01.479 --> 01:23:03.000 and you are in the middle of a protest and 1454 01:23:03.039 --> 01:23:07.600 you're burning an American flag to protest, like you can leave, 1455 01:23:08.079 --> 01:23:10.880 like you really don't have to be here. I don't know. 1456 01:23:11.039 --> 01:23:14.800 Maybe I'm misunderstanding the intent behind this, but I mean, 1457 01:23:14.800 --> 01:23:15.920 what are your thoughts on this? 1458 01:23:18.720 --> 01:23:22.640 To my thought was observing the right wing reaction on Twitter. 1459 01:23:22.880 --> 01:23:26.000 Matt Walsh is like the only guy I saw who 1460 01:23:26.159 --> 01:23:29.359 really supported this. And I know I'm missing a lot 1461 01:23:29.439 --> 01:23:32.720 of people, but most of the political right that I 1462 01:23:32.760 --> 01:23:35.880 saw said this is stupid and we really want to 1463 01:23:35.920 --> 01:23:38.479 see the Epstein files released more than we want to 1464 01:23:38.520 --> 01:23:40.479 see this. When are you going to do that? There 1465 01:23:40.560 --> 01:23:42.560 was a lot of commentary along those lines. 1466 01:23:42.800 --> 01:23:45.159 I agree with that statement for sure, Like this is 1467 01:23:45.199 --> 01:23:48.319 not like the biggest pressing matter in American culture. This 1468 01:23:48.399 --> 01:23:50.279 is I didn't even realize this was a thing. It's 1469 01:23:50.479 --> 01:23:55.279 very much a curveball on a left field, honestly, But yeah, huh. 1470 01:23:55.319 --> 01:23:58.560 Another thing is he's Trump said in his verbal verbal 1471 01:23:58.600 --> 01:24:01.359 comments that we're gonna to anyone who burns a flag 1472 01:24:01.399 --> 01:24:04.000 with one year in prison, but he can't do that, 1473 01:24:04.119 --> 01:24:07.239 and the executive order was not even worded along those 1474 01:24:07.239 --> 01:24:09.279 lines at all. Because the people who actually wrote it 1475 01:24:09.399 --> 01:24:10.920 know that it can't do that. 1476 01:24:12.159 --> 01:24:14.399 It just said to the fullest extent of the law. 1477 01:24:14.800 --> 01:24:17.520 So it's like, to what level did you offend? Did 1478 01:24:17.560 --> 01:24:21.000 you personally go buy this flag to burn it? And 1479 01:24:21.039 --> 01:24:24.199 then at that point it's what like a disturbing the piece. 1480 01:24:24.920 --> 01:24:27.880 That's a slaps and a misdemeanor in most cases. Yeah. 1481 01:24:27.920 --> 01:24:30.399 A big reason I think this is largely nonsense is 1482 01:24:30.439 --> 01:24:33.800 that the Supreme Court and our judicial system has already 1483 01:24:33.840 --> 01:24:38.159 ruled that criminal threats, imminent lawless action, or fighting words. 1484 01:24:38.960 --> 01:24:42.520 These have been already talked to death and there's good 1485 01:24:42.560 --> 01:24:46.920 definitions for this. And if you're burning a flag that's 1486 01:24:46.960 --> 01:24:50.840 your own piece of property, the court system already has 1487 01:24:50.880 --> 01:24:55.279 a pretty good definition of whether you're engaged in imminent 1488 01:24:55.359 --> 01:24:58.640 lawless action or inciting lawless action or not. So I 1489 01:24:58.680 --> 01:25:01.520 really don't see this execut the order is having the 1490 01:25:01.560 --> 01:25:05.119 ability to make any difference for an American citizen if 1491 01:25:05.119 --> 01:25:08.880 it comes to somebody who's not a citizen, somebody who 1492 01:25:09.600 --> 01:25:14.680 especially doesn't have a green card, like these Arab students 1493 01:25:14.720 --> 01:25:17.600 who were writing anti Israel articles a while ago and 1494 01:25:17.640 --> 01:25:20.399 then getting kicked out of the country. Yeah, you already 1495 01:25:20.399 --> 01:25:24.239 aren't very protected if you have that status, right, And 1496 01:25:24.560 --> 01:25:27.159 they probably would be kicked out for doing this too, 1497 01:25:28.359 --> 01:25:31.000 But they would have been kicked out even without this 1498 01:25:31.119 --> 01:25:33.640 executive order. I just don't say this executive order is 1499 01:25:33.640 --> 01:25:37.079 making any difference except just grabbing a bunch of attention. 1500 01:25:38.079 --> 01:25:40.119 So you know, I had a third thought and I 1501 01:25:40.199 --> 01:25:43.159 just don't remember it right now. But spirit animal, what 1502 01:25:43.199 --> 01:25:43.840 do you think? 1503 01:25:44.079 --> 01:25:45.800 Yeah, what do you think? Sam? I agree with you, 1504 01:25:45.840 --> 01:25:47.439 by the way, Tony, I think this is very much 1505 01:25:47.439 --> 01:25:49.600 to look over here not over there kind of thing. 1506 01:25:49.880 --> 01:25:54.720 But who knows, Sam Iglait I had to probably a 1507 01:25:54.800 --> 01:25:57.439 look at this and think about the other thing. But 1508 01:25:59.239 --> 01:26:03.359 I can't help but to feel happy that this happened 1509 01:26:04.119 --> 01:26:09.640 because I have family that has been in that has 1510 01:26:09.760 --> 01:26:14.840 fought over seas and everything. And I'm I myself am 1511 01:26:14.960 --> 01:26:19.479 a vet JQ Burevet and uh ravens of it. We 1512 01:26:19.640 --> 01:26:23.920 all means that's the fact that I want to be 1513 01:26:24.039 --> 01:26:27.039 over my body. I want to be I want to 1514 01:26:27.039 --> 01:26:30.279 be wrapped up in a shroud with and burned like 1515 01:26:31.359 --> 01:26:34.520 and that's what I want. And I have friends who 1516 01:26:34.520 --> 01:26:37.039 have already been buried under that flag. And when I 1517 01:26:37.039 --> 01:26:40.600 see people Stone bought it spit on it and burn it. 1518 01:26:41.479 --> 01:26:45.279 I'm not gonna lie. Violent thoughts go run through my mind. 1519 01:26:45.680 --> 01:26:48.119 No, I'm with you. Where I was stationed in DC, 1520 01:26:48.359 --> 01:26:51.359 I marched somewhere close to, if not over a thousand 1521 01:26:51.439 --> 01:26:54.720 funerals at Arlington. Right. So, as far as the flags 1522 01:26:54.760 --> 01:26:57.520 being draped over coffins, the twenty one gun salute, the folding, 1523 01:26:57.560 --> 01:26:59.479 the whole nine, I was a part of that for 1524 01:26:59.520 --> 01:27:04.079 the entire of my Marine Corps career. Maybe that has 1525 01:27:04.159 --> 01:27:06.319 something to do to do with my bias towards it, 1526 01:27:06.479 --> 01:27:10.880 And fine, that's fine, And again I understand freedom of 1527 01:27:10.880 --> 01:27:13.359 self expression. I am with that one hundred percent. I 1528 01:27:13.399 --> 01:27:16.840 am all in favor of freedom of speech. But there's 1529 01:27:17.119 --> 01:27:19.319 you know, there's a level of respect that I also 1530 01:27:19.359 --> 01:27:22.399 think that we should be using that most people, regardless 1531 01:27:22.520 --> 01:27:27.760 again of race or political background or socioeconomic status, whatever, 1532 01:27:28.159 --> 01:27:31.800 there's a level of decorum and respect that our culture 1533 01:27:31.880 --> 01:27:35.600 has lost, like absolutely thrown out the window in the 1534 01:27:35.640 --> 01:27:39.800 last twenty years. I think another twa. 1535 01:27:41.479 --> 01:27:44.359 Yeah, Another thought I have on this is that in 1536 01:27:44.439 --> 01:27:49.279 the ancient times, there were idols that people worshiped, and 1537 01:27:50.479 --> 01:27:55.159 there was a revolt against that. That's largely where Judaism 1538 01:27:55.199 --> 01:27:59.560 and Islam get their anticonic beliefs from. But everyone's got 1539 01:27:59.600 --> 01:28:03.000 symbols that they really love that they attached to ideas 1540 01:28:03.000 --> 01:28:07.279 of everything they think is holy and good. So I'm 1541 01:28:07.319 --> 01:28:10.479 sure that in the Middle Ages, if you desecraated a crucifix, 1542 01:28:10.600 --> 01:28:14.640 you would be severely punished and maybe killed. And some 1543 01:28:14.680 --> 01:28:19.079 Protestant Reformers actually they they took on this more an 1544 01:28:19.359 --> 01:28:21.640 iconic view of the way things ought to be, and 1545 01:28:21.680 --> 01:28:26.039 they would destroy statues, and you know, the American flag 1546 01:28:26.119 --> 01:28:29.520 and the Israeli flag and the Pride flag. They're all 1547 01:28:29.760 --> 01:28:32.720 very powerful symbols that people love so much they want 1548 01:28:32.720 --> 01:28:35.199 to punish anyone who desecrates them these days. 1549 01:28:36.039 --> 01:28:38.399 But that being said, and I'm not disagreeing with your point, 1550 01:28:38.680 --> 01:28:40.840 but even in the Middle Ages they were tearing down 1551 01:28:40.920 --> 01:28:45.920 these icons and statues. If you were to throw actual 1552 01:28:46.039 --> 01:28:49.800 shit on your king's banner, I have a hard time 1553 01:28:49.840 --> 01:28:52.359 believing that you wouldn't also probably lose your life over that. 1554 01:28:54.199 --> 01:28:57.119 Yeah, I agree, I agree, And in a sense, the 1555 01:28:57.239 --> 01:29:01.239 king's banner was also kind of an idol. I think effectively, 1556 01:29:01.319 --> 01:29:05.319 if something is held as being so sacred, whether you 1557 01:29:05.319 --> 01:29:09.000 you know, call it religious or call it civic, nationalist 1558 01:29:09.680 --> 01:29:13.319 and somebody desecrating it prompts other people of violence. It 1559 01:29:13.399 --> 01:29:17.239 is pretty similar to idolatry in my opinion. And this 1560 01:29:17.319 --> 01:29:20.159 is very this is very iconoclastic kind of thing to 1561 01:29:20.199 --> 01:29:22.640 do to burn a flag, but I mean. 1562 01:29:22.520 --> 01:29:27.039 Throwing Let's say you're even trying to desecrate your nobleman's banner, 1563 01:29:27.159 --> 01:29:29.520 not necessarily the king, it could be even your local 1564 01:29:29.600 --> 01:29:33.960 lord or duke or earl or whatever. That's essentially their name, right, 1565 01:29:34.039 --> 01:29:38.600 that is the crest of this clan, this family, these things. 1566 01:29:39.039 --> 01:29:42.720 You're basically shitting on their family at that point. So, yes, 1567 01:29:42.760 --> 01:29:45.039 although it is an icon and it is an image 1568 01:29:45.399 --> 01:29:48.199 that is, you know, within the human mind it signifies this, 1569 01:29:48.239 --> 01:29:50.760 that and the other, it's a little more personal than that. 1570 01:29:50.960 --> 01:29:53.039 And that's how I've always seen flagged. I don't take 1571 01:29:53.079 --> 01:29:57.159 that to be a icon of America. I believe that 1572 01:29:57.239 --> 01:30:02.479 to be the symbol, like the family name, almost of 1573 01:30:02.520 --> 01:30:05.640 the America as a whole. And I know that I 1574 01:30:05.720 --> 01:30:08.039 might be crazy for that assertion. I know there's tons 1575 01:30:08.039 --> 01:30:10.199 of people that say, you know, when everybody was like 1576 01:30:10.199 --> 01:30:11.960 make America great, there was tons of people that were 1577 01:30:11.960 --> 01:30:15.640 saying America is never great, and they are disgusted by 1578 01:30:15.640 --> 01:30:17.680 the side of the American flag, and they have the 1579 01:30:17.760 --> 01:30:18.600 rights of that opinion. 1580 01:30:19.039 --> 01:30:22.319 But well, yeah, this is also the difference between honor 1581 01:30:22.359 --> 01:30:26.800 culture and dignity culture. And honor culture, if someone insults 1582 01:30:26.800 --> 01:30:29.039 your name, you have to lash out at them, and 1583 01:30:29.039 --> 01:30:32.039 in dignity culture, it's more like you're better off ignoring it. 1584 01:30:32.720 --> 01:30:39.880 M Yeah, that's fair, that's very fair. Okay. Well, as 1585 01:30:39.920 --> 01:30:44.840 we were talking about America and symbols and things like that, 1586 01:30:45.439 --> 01:30:47.279 let's talk a little bit about what's going on in 1587 01:30:47.359 --> 01:30:52.680 Venezuela right now. This is this is getting interesting, y'all. 1588 01:30:53.239 --> 01:30:55.680 I remember talking about this on the Culture Conspiracy a 1589 01:30:55.720 --> 01:30:59.239 few years ago, and I tried finding the article and 1590 01:30:59.560 --> 01:31:02.880 I couldn't because everything involving Venezuela in US right now 1591 01:31:02.920 --> 01:31:06.359 is talking about what's currently going on a few years ago. 1592 01:31:06.760 --> 01:31:08.479 And by a few, I don't mean like ten, I 1593 01:31:08.520 --> 01:31:15.199 mean like maybe two out of nowhere Venezuelan. I don't 1594 01:31:15.199 --> 01:31:16.840 even think it was the President, although it might have 1595 01:31:16.880 --> 01:31:20.279 been Maduro himself who basically said that if America wants 1596 01:31:20.279 --> 01:31:23.479 to try to invade Venezuela, they better be ready for 1597 01:31:23.520 --> 01:31:27.039 a fight. And it was like, who is talking about 1598 01:31:27.119 --> 01:31:31.239 invading Venezuela. Like, no one in America was even suggesting 1599 01:31:31.319 --> 01:31:35.680 such a thing, even the deepest realms of military you know, 1600 01:31:35.840 --> 01:31:38.119 movements and all these things, Like we were worried about 1601 01:31:38.239 --> 01:31:41.520 other shit around the world. No one was concerned with 1602 01:31:41.640 --> 01:31:47.319 some sort of a military action in Venezuela. Then Venezuela 1603 01:31:47.399 --> 01:31:49.800 started gearing up like they were about to invade Guyana, 1604 01:31:50.319 --> 01:31:53.119 right their neighbor to the east, to the southeast technically, 1605 01:31:53.520 --> 01:31:57.359 and America decided to let it be known that they 1606 01:31:57.479 --> 01:32:01.159 sided with Guyana on this one. And that was after 1607 01:32:01.239 --> 01:32:03.319 the fact, that was after Maduau had already made these 1608 01:32:03.359 --> 01:32:08.159 crazy statements. But now America has deployed a couple of 1609 01:32:08.239 --> 01:32:13.239 warships and about four thousand marines off the coast of Venezuela. 1610 01:32:13.560 --> 01:32:16.880 Why are they doing this, I don't really know, but 1611 01:32:16.960 --> 01:32:18.720 the article might give us a little bit of an 1612 01:32:18.760 --> 01:32:23.039 indication on this one. And in response, Venezuela has deployed 1613 01:32:23.119 --> 01:32:27.840 their own warships quote unquote, I'm using the term warship 1614 01:32:28.079 --> 01:32:31.920 in reference to Venezuela very loosely and very liberally. But 1615 01:32:32.119 --> 01:32:36.680 let's continue warships drones to the coast. As US naval 1616 01:32:36.720 --> 01:32:41.479 squadron nears Venezuelan Defense ministry orders naval patrols as US 1617 01:32:41.560 --> 01:32:45.479 warships sent to waters off country's coast tackle Latin American 1618 01:32:45.760 --> 01:32:51.439 drug cartels. So the going narrative as of this moment 1619 01:32:52.199 --> 01:32:56.000 is that the US military, with a couple battalions of 1620 01:32:56.039 --> 01:33:00.399 Marines on board, are being deployed to this air of 1621 01:33:00.399 --> 01:33:04.359 the world to battle the cartels because our president has 1622 01:33:04.600 --> 01:33:10.039 listed all cartels to be terrorist organizations. Therefore you can 1623 01:33:10.119 --> 01:33:12.960 use military might to fight them now, not just border 1624 01:33:13.000 --> 01:33:17.920 patrol and homeland security things. That being said, the Venezuelan 1625 01:33:17.960 --> 01:33:20.159 president is not happy about it and is trying to 1626 01:33:20.199 --> 01:33:24.520 like posture in response. But let's read in here. Venezuela's 1627 01:33:24.560 --> 01:33:27.279 defense minister says military vessels and drones will be sent 1628 01:33:27.319 --> 01:33:30.319 to patrol the country's coastline amid simmering tension with the 1629 01:33:30.359 --> 01:33:35.279 United States after Washington deployed warships to waters off Venezuela 1630 01:33:35.319 --> 01:33:38.359 to fight drug trafficking. In a video on social media 1631 01:33:38.439 --> 01:33:42.800 on Tuesday, Minister of Defense Vladimir Padrino announced a significant 1632 01:33:42.880 --> 01:33:45.640 drone deployment, as well as naval patrols along the country's 1633 01:33:45.640 --> 01:33:50.560 Caribbean coast, including larger vessels. Further North in our territorial waters. 1634 01:33:51.119 --> 01:33:54.359 The move comes after Washington last week deployed an amphibious 1635 01:33:54.359 --> 01:33:57.399 squadron of three warships towards Venezuela's coast in what it 1636 01:33:57.600 --> 01:34:01.920 said was an operation against latinum American drug cartels. New 1637 01:34:01.960 --> 01:34:05.000 Agencies reported on Monday that two more US ships, a 1638 01:34:05.039 --> 01:34:08.399 guided missile cruiser and a nuclear powered fast attack submarine, 1639 01:34:08.560 --> 01:34:11.319 had also been dispatched to the Caribbean, and that some 1640 01:34:11.439 --> 01:34:15.079 forty five hundred US service members, including twenty two hundred Marines, 1641 01:34:15.119 --> 01:34:18.439 were part of the deployment. Okay, I said, four thousand marines, 1642 01:34:18.800 --> 01:34:22.359 my bad, forty five hundred service members including twenty two 1643 01:34:22.439 --> 01:34:24.520 hundred marines. The other ones would probably be the naval, 1644 01:34:24.840 --> 01:34:27.600 you know, the navy guys that are and women that are, 1645 01:34:27.840 --> 01:34:30.720 you know, piloting the ships to bring them there. But anyway, 1646 01:34:32.439 --> 01:34:35.039 the US naval build up comes after the administration of 1647 01:34:35.079 --> 01:34:39.199 President Trump last week accused Venezuela's left wing president Nicholas 1648 01:34:39.239 --> 01:34:43.159 Maduro of being involved in cocaine trafficking and working with 1649 01:34:43.279 --> 01:34:48.239 drug cartels. Okay. Washington also announced that it had doubled 1650 01:34:48.279 --> 01:34:53.119 a reward for the capture of prosecution or capture or 1651 01:34:53.159 --> 01:34:57.880 prosecution of Maduro on drug charges from twenty five million 1652 01:34:58.159 --> 01:35:02.119 to fifty million US. The US is also offering a 1653 01:35:02.119 --> 01:35:05.199 reward of twenty five million for the arrest or prosecution 1654 01:35:05.359 --> 01:35:11.600 of Venezuelan Minister of the Popular Power for Interior, Diastado Cabello, 1655 01:35:12.640 --> 01:35:17.520 the Popular Power for Interior. Okay, so right now, there's 1656 01:35:17.800 --> 01:35:21.359 bounties on two of these people's heads, the president and 1657 01:35:21.520 --> 01:35:25.039 one of his top ministers. That's interesting. US officials have 1658 01:35:25.079 --> 01:35:27.279 accused me Dureau and members of his government of heading 1659 01:35:27.319 --> 01:35:32.560 the Venezuelan cocaine trafficking cartel Cartel de los Soles Solas, 1660 01:35:33.000 --> 01:35:38.119 which Washington has designated a terrorist organization. Okay, now we're 1661 01:35:38.159 --> 01:35:41.880 cook him. Merdureau has dismissed the accusations and accused the 1662 01:35:42.000 --> 01:35:45.119 US of attempting to instigate regime change in his country. 1663 01:35:45.680 --> 01:35:49.800 For the record, every person in Venezuela wants a regime change. 1664 01:35:50.439 --> 01:35:54.319 We could look at their living conditions in two thousand 1665 01:35:54.359 --> 01:35:57.960 and four or two thousand and five. I want to 1666 01:35:58.000 --> 01:36:02.520 say they had the world's fourth best economy because they 1667 01:36:02.560 --> 01:36:05.760 have oil there and cost of living is relatively cheap. 1668 01:36:06.239 --> 01:36:10.159 They were killing it. Then Maduro and people like him 1669 01:36:10.560 --> 01:36:15.159 turn the country socialist, and they plummeted. They have been 1670 01:36:15.279 --> 01:36:19.800 in starvation mode, full on survival mode for the better 1671 01:36:19.840 --> 01:36:22.680 part of two decades now, with no sign of that 1672 01:36:22.760 --> 01:36:28.159 getting better. So, for the record, most people in Venezuela, 1673 01:36:28.199 --> 01:36:32.920 most regular people, would love a regime change. But okay, now, 1674 01:36:32.960 --> 01:36:36.159 let's talk about the military build up. On Monday, Maduro 1675 01:36:36.239 --> 01:36:39.560 insisted during a weekly television show that his country, unlike 1676 01:36:39.600 --> 01:36:43.479 neighboring Colombia, is free of coca leaf crops and free 1677 01:36:43.520 --> 01:36:48.800 of cocaine production. Mardua, who was also criticized the US 1678 01:36:48.880 --> 01:36:52.239 government for not addressing the drug consumption within its borders, 1679 01:36:52.399 --> 01:36:55.239 has mobilized hundreds of thousands of local militia members to 1680 01:36:55.359 --> 01:37:00.680 strengthen the national security amid the threat from Washington. Fifteen 1681 01:37:00.720 --> 01:37:03.960 thousand Venezuelan troops have also been dispatched to the country's 1682 01:37:03.960 --> 01:37:08.439 border with Colombia to crack down on criminal groups, including 1683 01:37:08.479 --> 01:37:13.199 those involved in drug trafficking. I find that very, very, 1684 01:37:13.560 --> 01:37:18.199 very funny because trend de Arawa, which is one of 1685 01:37:18.239 --> 01:37:23.319 the most brutal groups currently operating, is a Venezuelan group. 1686 01:37:24.640 --> 01:37:27.000 If you've seen any of these things about the apartments 1687 01:37:27.000 --> 01:37:30.279 in Texas being taken over by these Venezuelan thugs. That's 1688 01:37:30.319 --> 01:37:34.439 trend de Arawa, that's a Venezuelan cartel group. So for 1689 01:37:34.520 --> 01:37:36.920 them to say that they are cracking down on all 1690 01:37:36.960 --> 01:37:38.640 these things and that they don't have this in their 1691 01:37:38.680 --> 01:37:43.680 country all evidence to the contrary. They are currently the 1692 01:37:43.760 --> 01:37:48.640 most dangerous criminal element in the United States as of 1693 01:37:48.720 --> 01:37:53.479 time of recording. So anyway, Bold claims there Maduro. In 1694 01:37:53.520 --> 01:37:57.359 a separate announcement on Tuesday, Defense Minister Petrino said an 1695 01:37:57.359 --> 01:38:01.039 ongoing operation in Venezuela's northeastern corner had resulted in the 1696 01:38:01.079 --> 01:38:06.960 dismantling of shipyards where criminals intended to manufacture semi submersibles 1697 01:38:07.119 --> 01:38:10.960 and boats to transport drugs by sea to the markets 1698 01:38:10.960 --> 01:38:13.680 in Europe and North America. Yeah, the semi submersibles are 1699 01:38:13.680 --> 01:38:16.520 basically submarines that only go a few feet below the water. 1700 01:38:17.119 --> 01:38:21.600 But anyway, the move to deploy US warships and personnel 1701 01:38:21.720 --> 01:38:25.159 off Venezuela comes as Trump pushes for using the military 1702 01:38:25.199 --> 01:38:28.199 to thwart cartels he blames for the flow of fentanyl 1703 01:38:28.239 --> 01:38:32.319 and other illicit drugs into US communities and for perpetuating 1704 01:38:32.399 --> 01:38:36.520 violence in some US cities. I can't disagree Venezuela's mission 1705 01:38:36.560 --> 01:38:40.760 to the United Nations denounced the US's escalation of hostile 1706 01:38:40.800 --> 01:38:45.640 actions and threats in a letter. Local media outlet YEP 1707 01:38:47.039 --> 01:38:51.920 Noticias Venice Vision I don't speak, I don't speak Spanish 1708 01:38:52.079 --> 01:38:55.239 reported on Tuesday, referring to the imminent arrival of US 1709 01:38:55.279 --> 01:38:58.319 ships off the coast. Venezuela told the UN that Washington's 1710 01:38:58.359 --> 01:39:02.760 actions were quote a serious threat to regional peace and security, 1711 01:39:03.279 --> 01:39:05.880 while the presence of a nuclear powered attack submarine was 1712 01:39:06.239 --> 01:39:10.880 quote a clear act of intimidation. I believe that would 1713 01:39:10.920 --> 01:39:15.800 be the point, right. And again, they're only supposed to 1714 01:39:15.800 --> 01:39:20.399 be attacking the cartel and the movement of drugs. If 1715 01:39:20.399 --> 01:39:23.359 the government has nothing to hide, and they are so 1716 01:39:23.720 --> 01:39:25.520 loud and proud about the fact that they have no 1717 01:39:25.920 --> 01:39:28.880 cartel operations in their country, and they have no cocaine 1718 01:39:28.920 --> 01:39:31.880 industry and all these things, they should have nothing to 1719 01:39:31.920 --> 01:39:36.399 worry about. Gonna leave that little food for thought referring 1720 01:39:36.399 --> 01:39:40.039 to the imminent sorry, excuse me. The letter also demanded 1721 01:39:40.079 --> 01:39:43.560 guarantees that the US would not deploy or threaten to 1722 01:39:43.720 --> 01:39:48.600 use nuclear weapons in the region. Bro No one is 1723 01:39:48.720 --> 01:39:52.680 using nukes. That is not being talked about. A nuclear attack. 1724 01:39:52.800 --> 01:40:01.359 Sub isn't carrying nukes. It's powered by nuclear reactors. That's yes, yep. 1725 01:40:01.399 --> 01:40:03.640 That is one of the most things that has ever 1726 01:40:03.680 --> 01:40:06.119 been said, one of the most things that has ever 1727 01:40:06.159 --> 01:40:09.239 been said. Despite the military build up, analysis have downplayed 1728 01:40:09.239 --> 01:40:12.960 the possibility of a US invasion or US strikes on Venezuela, 1729 01:40:13.000 --> 01:40:15.640 while many Venezuelan people have shrugged off the US threat 1730 01:40:15.680 --> 01:40:20.680 as posturing. Yeah, no doubt, and Venezuela's posturing back is 1731 01:40:20.840 --> 01:40:24.479 about as big. Maduro, who claimed a third term in 1732 01:40:24.600 --> 01:40:27.760 office following an election in July of twenty twenty four, 1733 01:40:27.920 --> 01:40:31.880 which was described as deeply flawed, has been in Trump's 1734 01:40:31.880 --> 01:40:34.680 sites ever since the US president's first term from twenty 1735 01:40:34.680 --> 01:40:37.479 seventeen to twenty twenty one. But the US policy of 1736 01:40:37.520 --> 01:40:41.560 maximum pressure on Venezuela, including an ongoing oil embargo, failed 1737 01:40:41.560 --> 01:40:46.279 to dislodge Mondureau from power. That is because they're subsidizing 1738 01:40:46.319 --> 01:40:49.920 that through bricks right now and funding Russia. But anyone 1739 01:40:50.840 --> 01:40:53.399 and China, I should mention this is a quote here. 1740 01:40:53.680 --> 01:40:56.359 I think what we're seeing represents an attempt to create 1741 01:40:56.399 --> 01:41:00.079 anxiety in government circles and force Madureau to negotiate. We 1742 01:41:00.199 --> 01:41:04.159 ate something that was from International Crisis Group analyst Phil Gunson. 1743 01:41:04.319 --> 01:41:10.000 He told AFP regarding the building tension. Okay, so that's 1744 01:41:10.039 --> 01:41:14.039 currently the standings. There's nothing popping off off the Venezuelan coast. 1745 01:41:14.119 --> 01:41:17.880 But it is worth mentioning that Venezuela is not happy 1746 01:41:18.439 --> 01:41:21.680 about seeing the US military off its shores, and I 1747 01:41:21.760 --> 01:41:25.279 understand that, but it's also worth mentioning that if they 1748 01:41:25.319 --> 01:41:27.399 have nothing to worry about, then they should have nothing 1749 01:41:27.399 --> 01:41:30.119 to worry about. They claim they have no cartels, even 1750 01:41:30.159 --> 01:41:35.720 though Trende Orrawa would disagree with that statement. And if 1751 01:41:35.760 --> 01:41:39.319 they're only there to look for submersibles or semi submersibles 1752 01:41:39.439 --> 01:41:42.880 and to stop the flow of drugs through the Caribbean, 1753 01:41:43.039 --> 01:41:47.199 that all intelligence would show does come out of Venezuela. 1754 01:41:47.239 --> 01:41:48.960 There's other countries that comes out of as well, but 1755 01:41:49.479 --> 01:41:52.199 Venezuela is absolutely a launching platform for this. 1756 01:41:54.119 --> 01:41:54.399 You know. 1757 01:41:55.239 --> 01:41:58.399 Yeah, yeah, I can understand why the military would be 1758 01:41:58.399 --> 01:42:01.079 deployed there as of this moment. And we'll see what 1759 01:42:01.119 --> 01:42:03.840 happens with Maduro. He might get froggy and decide to 1760 01:42:03.840 --> 01:42:06.439 try to do something crazy, and that again would not 1761 01:42:06.560 --> 01:42:08.439 bode well for him or his country. 1762 01:42:08.920 --> 01:42:17.159 Go ahead, Sam, Yeah, you talked about how du came 1763 01:42:17.239 --> 01:42:19.520 that we had nuclear. 1764 01:42:19.199 --> 01:42:22.560 Power, the nukes nuclear submarine double that like he thought 1765 01:42:22.560 --> 01:42:26.640 we would drop nukes on them from it. I'm pretty 1766 01:42:26.680 --> 01:42:29.640 sure we do have that. We probably do have that capability. 1767 01:42:29.760 --> 01:42:32.199 I'm not that sure. I'm not wanting in the Navy. 1768 01:42:32.239 --> 01:42:38.600 I didn't fuck with nukes, right. I think that it 1769 01:42:38.640 --> 01:42:41.840 would not be smart for anybody to use nukes because 1770 01:42:42.680 --> 01:42:45.039 if once country expires, in the country, I was gonna 1771 01:42:45.079 --> 01:42:47.720 find an X and all it's moved to sure destruction 1772 01:42:47.880 --> 01:42:49.359 on Graden stage. 1773 01:42:49.199 --> 01:42:53.119 Right, And that's why I'm saying that nobody's gonna drop 1774 01:42:53.199 --> 01:42:57.079 nukes like that is beyond a zero percent chance of that, right. 1775 01:42:57.479 --> 01:43:00.399 But they yes, we do have nuclear war heads that 1776 01:43:00.479 --> 01:43:04.079 can be deployed from submarines AE hundred percent right that 1777 01:43:04.119 --> 01:43:06.439 we have that technology. We've had it for quite some time. 1778 01:43:07.239 --> 01:43:10.640 But a nuclear attacks sub does not necessarily mean that 1779 01:43:10.680 --> 01:43:14.079 there are nuclear warheads on board the submarine. It's like 1780 01:43:14.119 --> 01:43:17.560 saying the nuclear aircraft carriers that we have. The aircraft 1781 01:43:17.560 --> 01:43:20.880 carriers are not carrying nuclear warheads. They're aircraft carriers. They 1782 01:43:20.920 --> 01:43:23.680 are being powered by nuclear reactors. 1783 01:43:24.119 --> 01:43:26.520 I thought we were still running off of like diesel 1784 01:43:26.520 --> 01:43:28.079 on a coal. 1785 01:43:30.079 --> 01:43:32.920 Most ships are still running off of diesel. However, we 1786 01:43:33.000 --> 01:43:36.960 are making more and more transitions into nuclear power because 1787 01:43:37.079 --> 01:43:42.239 it is so efficient and so safe. Basically, these nuclear 1788 01:43:42.520 --> 01:43:42.880 go ahead. 1789 01:43:44.279 --> 01:43:48.039 So what happens is God forbid, we lose a ship 1790 01:43:48.119 --> 01:43:51.159 in a in a like of a ship to ship attack. 1791 01:43:51.720 --> 01:43:53.640 I know it hadn't happened since World War Two, but 1792 01:43:53.760 --> 01:43:58.520 steel that that nuclear action going underwater, a whole lot 1793 01:43:58.600 --> 01:43:59.760 of shit's gonna die. 1794 01:44:00.359 --> 01:44:04.680 Yes, But also they for somebody to try to attack 1795 01:44:04.800 --> 01:44:09.760 an American ship like realistically, a ship to ship fight 1796 01:44:10.279 --> 01:44:14.439 on the open sea like that, that might be one 1797 01:44:14.439 --> 01:44:18.800 of the worst ideas to ever be tried. Like you said, 1798 01:44:18.840 --> 01:44:22.239 it hadn't happened since World War Two, there's a reason. 1799 01:44:23.159 --> 01:44:26.880 And even if that was attempted, most of our ships 1800 01:44:26.920 --> 01:44:30.760 have deterrence in place to where that's I'm not saying impossible, 1801 01:44:30.840 --> 01:44:34.399 I'm saying that would have to be one hell of 1802 01:44:34.439 --> 01:44:38.039 a lucky shot, and so many different redundancy systems would 1803 01:44:38.079 --> 01:44:40.680 have had to have failed. But even in that case, 1804 01:44:41.199 --> 01:44:43.359 if the ship was hit and was going to be 1805 01:44:43.399 --> 01:44:49.600 going down, they have procedures in place to try to 1806 01:44:49.720 --> 01:44:52.039 either cool the nuclear reactor before it goes into a 1807 01:44:52.079 --> 01:44:55.800 cataclysmic state or something like this, or you know, seal 1808 01:44:55.840 --> 01:44:58.319 it in some way to where it wouldn't affect the 1809 01:44:58.600 --> 01:45:02.399 sea life and stuff like that. But yeah, so the 1810 01:45:02.479 --> 01:45:06.359 nuclear powered aircraft carriers and stuff, they stay out. The 1811 01:45:07.119 --> 01:45:10.279 only thing that goes bad on them quote unquote is 1812 01:45:10.319 --> 01:45:13.640 the people operating it. Like that ship could stay out 1813 01:45:13.640 --> 01:45:17.000 at sea pretty much indefinitely. They only have to make 1814 01:45:17.119 --> 01:45:20.239 ports so that they could resupply the people running the ship. 1815 01:45:21.039 --> 01:45:25.920 Like it's the nuclear powered conversation is beyond the direction 1816 01:45:26.000 --> 01:45:28.079 that I think we should go to for all power, 1817 01:45:28.279 --> 01:45:32.399 not just military, but even electricity here. But I know 1818 01:45:32.479 --> 01:45:34.880 so many people are scared of it because there have 1819 01:45:34.960 --> 01:45:37.840 been a few instances of things going wrong in countries 1820 01:45:37.880 --> 01:45:40.119 that do not have the same standards that America has. 1821 01:45:40.199 --> 01:45:44.239 But you know, case the point is Chernobyl, But that 1822 01:45:44.319 --> 01:45:46.079 was because they did what they were trying to do 1823 01:45:46.119 --> 01:45:49.239 a mock tail. You well, they they didn't put enough 1824 01:45:49.279 --> 01:45:52.479 concrete or whatever all quote unquote mud on top. They 1825 01:45:52.640 --> 01:45:55.800 just dump fuck tons of water and it didn't have 1826 01:45:55.960 --> 01:45:58.119 enough mass to hold it down, so it just boiled 1827 01:45:58.119 --> 01:45:58.600 over in it. 1828 01:46:00.319 --> 01:46:02.039 Also, we got to keep in mind was during the 1829 01:46:02.079 --> 01:46:06.439 Soviet Union time frame, they didn't have like an osha. 1830 01:46:06.800 --> 01:46:08.439 They had their version of it, but it was not 1831 01:46:09.439 --> 01:46:12.840 very efficient or at least right after. 1832 01:46:12.640 --> 01:46:15.840 The Sorry it was communism. 1833 01:46:16.079 --> 01:46:18.880 Well that's right exactly. Then you have like the Fukushima 1834 01:46:19.000 --> 01:46:22.000 nuclear reactor situation. There was a crack and they think 1835 01:46:22.079 --> 01:46:24.359 there was a crack, and they decided to keep running 1836 01:46:24.359 --> 01:46:27.560 it anyway. And that's what I'm saying. Japan has a 1837 01:46:27.720 --> 01:46:33.079 very very decent QA and QC mindset. As a matter 1838 01:46:33.119 --> 01:46:35.520 of fact, what we have as far as quality control 1839 01:46:35.560 --> 01:46:38.680 and quality assurance comes from Japanese experts in the field. 1840 01:46:38.760 --> 01:46:43.279 America took those plans and those ethos and applied them here. 1841 01:46:43.840 --> 01:46:46.560 That being said, the way that that reactor was built 1842 01:46:46.680 --> 01:46:48.760 and the chain of events that let it go to 1843 01:46:48.800 --> 01:46:52.199 the level it did, that wouldn't happen in America for 1844 01:46:52.239 --> 01:46:59.159 a list of reasons. 1845 01:46:56.119 --> 01:46:58.239 Not to be a dick or anything, but you would 1846 01:46:58.239 --> 01:47:03.439 think they would. They would know firsthand how nuclear it 1847 01:47:03.600 --> 01:47:06.800 tends to react when it sucks up, and they still 1848 01:47:06.880 --> 01:47:11.439 let that shit ride. They were asking for some bad situation. 1849 01:47:11.680 --> 01:47:15.159 That is true. But the Fukushima crack in the nuclear 1850 01:47:15.239 --> 01:47:18.560 leak was decades after the sun was opened up on them, 1851 01:47:18.640 --> 01:47:20.239 So it's a different Japan. 1852 01:47:22.239 --> 01:47:25.079 Yes, they that's what I'm saying. They had the knowledge, 1853 01:47:25.159 --> 01:47:28.680 but yet they said nah, fuck it, the no and 1854 01:47:28.800 --> 01:47:30.880 well Clyde didn't ride very long. 1855 01:47:31.520 --> 01:47:34.560 No, that's true, that's true. But anyway, so yeah, the 1856 01:47:34.640 --> 01:47:38.039 nuclear power conversation, especially with nuclear subs and nuclear ships 1857 01:47:38.279 --> 01:47:45.199 is brilliant. Uh, you know, groundbreaking technology that our military 1858 01:47:45.279 --> 01:47:47.600 is using at our disposal. I wish that we would 1859 01:47:47.640 --> 01:47:51.680 go more nuclear powered on mainland US, but big oil 1860 01:47:51.800 --> 01:47:55.239 has something to say about that. But anyway, anyway, talks 1861 01:47:55.239 --> 01:47:58.399 for another day. I did have another article brought up 1862 01:47:58.439 --> 01:48:02.479 to talk about the destroyers in Venezuela deploying its militia, 1863 01:48:02.520 --> 01:48:06.640 but we kind of already covered all that. Also, I 1864 01:48:06.720 --> 01:48:10.119 thought this was interesting. The Republicans are pushing to split 1865 01:48:10.199 --> 01:48:14.159 California into amid redistricting feud. So we were talking about 1866 01:48:14.159 --> 01:48:17.720 this over the past few weeks, the Texas redistricting conversation 1867 01:48:17.800 --> 01:48:20.760 that took place and all of this. Apparently there is 1868 01:48:20.880 --> 01:48:25.239 now a push to split California for the same purpose. 1869 01:48:25.439 --> 01:48:26.159 Listen to this. 1870 01:48:26.800 --> 01:48:31.520 A Republican lawmaker wants to turn California into two separate states. 1871 01:48:31.880 --> 01:48:35.479 Assembly Minority Leader James Gallagher introduced legislation to get the 1872 01:48:35.479 --> 01:48:38.079 process started, maybe sends back a hotbeker spoke with him 1873 01:48:38.199 --> 01:48:41.119 just today and joins us alive in studio alex. 1874 01:48:41.439 --> 01:48:45.199 This is in response to Democrats' effort to redraw California's 1875 01:48:45.199 --> 01:48:49.159 congressional maps in favor of Democrats. State Republicans have been 1876 01:48:49.279 --> 01:48:51.560 vocal in their opposition to the plan over the last 1877 01:48:51.560 --> 01:48:55.439 several weeks. Leader Gallagher says throughout the state, Republicans feel 1878 01:48:55.560 --> 01:48:58.880 unheard and underrepresented, so he wants to split the state 1879 01:48:59.000 --> 01:48:59.239 in two. 1880 01:49:00.079 --> 01:49:01.560 You know what we want our own state. 1881 01:49:01.880 --> 01:49:05.479 This is the state's split Assembly Minority Leader James Gallagher 1882 01:49:05.560 --> 01:49:08.479 is proposing. At a news conference Wednesday morning, he said 1883 01:49:08.600 --> 01:49:13.439 Republican voters are fed up with the state's Democratic supermajority. 1884 01:49:12.720 --> 01:49:15.600 And those forgotten people, mostly in the inland counties of 1885 01:49:15.640 --> 01:49:17.079 this state, they had no voice. 1886 01:49:17.319 --> 01:49:21.439 Republicans representation is further threatened, he said, by the prospect 1887 01:49:21.520 --> 01:49:25.880 of redrawn congressional districts, which voters will approve or reject 1888 01:49:25.960 --> 01:49:30.199 in a special election. On November fourth, California Democrats redrew 1889 01:49:30.279 --> 01:49:33.720 the proposed maps with the goal of flipping five Republican 1890 01:49:33.800 --> 01:49:37.680 held seats. Democratic to counter Texas's planned to do the 1891 01:49:37.800 --> 01:49:38.840 exact opposite. 1892 01:49:38.880 --> 01:49:44.159 Their representation could be completely stripped by the Gavinmander proposal 1893 01:49:44.520 --> 01:49:46.560 Prop fifty that's been put on the ballot in. 1894 01:49:46.479 --> 01:49:50.199 Response to Gallagher's two state proposal. A spokesperson for Governor 1895 01:49:50.239 --> 01:49:53.399 Gavin Newsom's office told ABC ten in a statement, a 1896 01:49:53.439 --> 01:49:56.760 person who seeks to split California does not deserve to 1897 01:49:56.760 --> 01:49:59.479 hold office in the Golden State. This is a stunt 1898 01:49:59.520 --> 01:50:03.680 that will go nowhere. And Nick Miller, spokesperson for Democratic 1899 01:50:03.720 --> 01:50:07.079 Assembly Speaker Robert Reeves, told ABC ten in a statement, 1900 01:50:07.239 --> 01:50:11.560 Assembly Republicans say they opposed jerrymandering, but just drew this 1901 01:50:11.800 --> 01:50:15.279 joke of a map a true James Galamander I asked 1902 01:50:15.359 --> 01:50:18.720 Chris mckayley, adjunct professor with the University of the Pacific's 1903 01:50:18.800 --> 01:50:22.079 McGeorge School of Law, what it would take to split 1904 01:50:22.119 --> 01:50:23.600 the state in two like this. 1905 01:50:23.920 --> 01:50:29.640 That proposal would require first the consent of the California legislature, 1906 01:50:29.880 --> 01:50:34.359 both houses passing a joint resolution, and then ultimately an 1907 01:50:34.479 --> 01:50:37.800 Act of the Congress. Both the US House and Senate 1908 01:50:38.000 --> 01:50:40.840 would have to approve that before it could take effect. 1909 01:50:41.039 --> 01:50:44.319 That process is laid out in the US Constitution, he said, 1910 01:50:44.600 --> 01:50:49.079 but with a Democratic supermajority elected in California, is Gallagher's 1911 01:50:49.079 --> 01:50:50.319 plan even feasible. 1912 01:50:50.439 --> 01:50:55.359 It's unlikely that the legislature, controlled clearly by Democrats in 1913 01:50:55.439 --> 01:50:58.720 both houses, are likely to hear such a measure, let 1914 01:50:58.760 --> 01:51:01.800 alone actually pass it and pass it on to the Congress. 1915 01:51:01.960 --> 01:51:04.800 But something like this isn't necessarily new. According to the 1916 01:51:04.800 --> 01:51:07.760 California State Library, over the course of the state's history, 1917 01:51:07.880 --> 01:51:10.600 there have been more than two hundred attempts to split 1918 01:51:10.680 --> 01:51:12.800 up the state in some way, shape or form. You 1919 01:51:12.880 --> 01:51:15.159 might be familiar with one called the State of Jefferson, 1920 01:51:15.199 --> 01:51:18.039 where parts of northern California and southern Oregon worked to 1921 01:51:18.079 --> 01:51:21.439 form a new state. Periodic efforts spanned the mid eighteen 1922 01:51:21.479 --> 01:51:24.960 hundreds and got serious in the fall of nineteen forty one. 1923 01:51:25.000 --> 01:51:28.239 But for the outbreak of World War Two, that movement 1924 01:51:28.319 --> 01:51:31.720 was actually all on its way to come into fruition. 1925 01:51:32.039 --> 01:51:34.439 Asked if he has a name for the second state, 1926 01:51:34.600 --> 01:51:38.399 Gallagher said no, the name and exact boundaries are up 1927 01:51:38.439 --> 01:51:42.439 for discussion at this point. If the phrase Gallagher is 1928 01:51:42.479 --> 01:51:46.079 using to describe his proposal to state solution stands out 1929 01:51:46.119 --> 01:51:48.600 to you and Gallagher was asked about it, that phrase 1930 01:51:48.680 --> 01:51:51.760 is commonly used to describe a possible solution to the 1931 01:51:51.840 --> 01:51:55.920 long standing conflict between Israel and Palestinians. Gallagher said he's 1932 01:51:55.960 --> 01:51:59.279 not intending to make a connection. That just describes what 1933 01:51:59.319 --> 01:52:01.079 he's aiming to do here in California. 1934 01:52:01.880 --> 01:52:05.520 Okay, fair enough. So this is all in response to 1935 01:52:05.760 --> 01:52:09.800 Texas redistricting their state, which did in fact get approved. 1936 01:52:10.359 --> 01:52:14.119 So the other side of this is that this does 1937 01:52:14.199 --> 01:52:17.399 have to pass through DC to actually get approved. Texas 1938 01:52:17.399 --> 01:52:19.439 went through the process and they were at the final 1939 01:52:19.479 --> 01:52:21.720 point it had been approved by all the appropriate bodies 1940 01:52:21.960 --> 01:52:25.199 and then the local state legislatures were able to vote 1941 01:52:25.199 --> 01:52:27.239 on it. In the final vote, this is when the 1942 01:52:27.279 --> 01:52:29.960 Democrats took off and started going to other cities rather 1943 01:52:30.000 --> 01:52:33.159 than showing enough to work to vote. Is this something 1944 01:52:33.199 --> 01:52:36.840 that could actually take place? I don't really see it 1945 01:52:36.920 --> 01:52:39.600 happening right And I'm not saying because the Republicans run 1946 01:52:39.680 --> 01:52:43.199 DC right now or anything like that. What I could 1947 01:52:43.239 --> 01:52:48.159 see is they might start the process now, but not 1948 01:52:48.239 --> 01:52:52.119 push it to DC until the Democrats hold the positions 1949 01:52:52.199 --> 01:52:54.840 where they can finally pass the legislation and then make 1950 01:52:54.920 --> 01:52:58.039 this happen. I could see it as far as like 1951 01:52:58.159 --> 01:53:01.760 securing this for good, but I as of this moment. 1952 01:53:01.800 --> 01:53:04.520 Don't think that California is at any risk of actually 1953 01:53:04.560 --> 01:53:07.960 breaking off into two separate states. That would be phenomenal 1954 01:53:08.239 --> 01:53:10.960 because the vast majority of people that I know that 1955 01:53:11.000 --> 01:53:16.119 live in California are staunch Republicans and staunchly conservative. It 1956 01:53:16.199 --> 01:53:19.359 is only the big cities in the big hubs of 1957 01:53:19.680 --> 01:53:25.159 mass populations, which is systemic across any anywhere you live, 1958 01:53:25.239 --> 01:53:27.039 a big city is going to be full of liberally 1959 01:53:27.079 --> 01:53:30.199 minded people. And so yeah, the vast majority of the 1960 01:53:30.239 --> 01:53:34.039 state does not feel represented. I would have to personally 1961 01:53:34.359 --> 01:53:38.960 agree with that. But anyway, last item on the docket 1962 01:53:39.720 --> 01:53:42.319 odd that this is a BBC article to talk about this, 1963 01:53:42.520 --> 01:53:45.000 but I'm happy about it, and I figure we should 1964 01:53:45.079 --> 01:53:47.000 end this one on a light note. We covered a 1965 01:53:47.039 --> 01:53:51.520 bevy of more serious topics on this episode. US restaurant 1966 01:53:51.600 --> 01:53:56.399 chain Cracker Barrel scraps new logo after backlash. For anybody 1967 01:53:56.399 --> 01:53:59.680 that missed it, Cracker Barrel changed their logo. They took 1968 01:53:59.720 --> 01:54:01.720 away the old man and the barrel and tried to 1969 01:54:01.720 --> 01:54:05.479 go for this new modern look for some reason, and 1970 01:54:05.520 --> 01:54:08.560 they got so much backlash they decided to uh, go 1971 01:54:08.600 --> 01:54:10.760 ahead and change it back. So let's read about it here. 1972 01:54:11.279 --> 01:54:14.079 US restaurant chained Cracker Barrel has abandoned plans to adopt 1973 01:54:14.079 --> 01:54:17.359 a new logo following fears backlash direct quote here. We 1974 01:54:17.479 --> 01:54:20.239 thank our guests for sharing your voices and love for 1975 01:54:20.359 --> 01:54:22.920 Cracker Barrel. We said we would listen, and we have. 1976 01:54:23.199 --> 01:54:25.960 Our new logo is going away and our old Timer 1977 01:54:26.199 --> 01:54:28.640 will remain, the company said in a social media posts. 1978 01:54:29.000 --> 01:54:32.680 Cracker Barrel received criticism after it unveiled a modern version 1979 01:54:32.680 --> 01:54:36.039 of its logo which scrapped the old Timer figure. President Trump, 1980 01:54:36.039 --> 01:54:38.800 who was among those slamming the rebrand, applauded the reversal 1981 01:54:38.840 --> 01:54:42.159 by saying, congratulations Cracker Barrel on changing your logo back 1982 01:54:42.159 --> 01:54:45.560 to what it was. All of your fans very much appreciated. 1983 01:54:45.760 --> 01:54:47.600 I have a hard time believing Trump's even eating at 1984 01:54:47.600 --> 01:54:51.319 one of these establishments. That could be wrong. The new 1985 01:54:51.399 --> 01:54:54.079 version of the logo, which was unveiled along with a 1986 01:54:54.159 --> 01:54:57.840 new menu on the nineteenth of August, removed the image 1987 01:54:57.840 --> 01:54:59.640 of a man sitting in a chair and leaning against 1988 01:54:59.680 --> 01:55:02.840 the barrel known as the old Timer, and replaced with 1989 01:55:02.880 --> 01:55:06.640 an emblem featuring only the chain's name. That sparked accusations 1990 01:55:06.640 --> 01:55:09.680 that the company, known for its Southern style comfort food 1991 01:55:09.720 --> 01:55:14.000 and nostalgic atmosphere was abandoning its roots. Trump urged the 1992 01:55:14.079 --> 01:55:17.560 brand to return to its old logo and quote, admit 1993 01:55:17.640 --> 01:55:21.359 a mistake based on customer response the Ultimate Poll, and 1994 01:55:21.479 --> 01:55:25.000 manage the company better than ever before. End quote. He 1995 01:55:25.039 --> 01:55:27.600 said that the chain has got a billion dollars worth 1996 01:55:27.640 --> 01:55:31.119 of free publicity if they play their cards right, make 1997 01:55:31.199 --> 01:55:34.199 Cracker Barrel a winner again. That's a direct quote from 1998 01:55:34.199 --> 01:55:38.760 old Donnie T. David Johnson's CEO of branding agency Strategic 1999 01:55:38.880 --> 01:55:42.680 Vision PR Group, told the BBC US partner CBS that 2000 01:55:42.720 --> 01:55:46.399 the rebrand was a flop direct quote on that word. 2001 01:55:47.000 --> 01:55:50.239 What they did wrong is they went against their brand story, 2002 01:55:50.399 --> 01:55:53.640 which was the old logo that reflected the southern whimsical 2003 01:55:53.680 --> 01:55:57.920 atmosphere of the stores. Shares in the company nosedived by 2004 01:55:57.960 --> 01:56:02.640 about seven percent following the announce wow. In its statement 2005 01:56:02.720 --> 01:56:06.720 on X announcing the reversal on Thursday evening, the company said, 2006 01:56:06.760 --> 01:56:09.560 at Cracker Barrel, It's always been and always will be, 2007 01:56:09.880 --> 01:56:12.760 about serving up delicious food, warm welcomes, and the kind 2008 01:56:12.800 --> 01:56:15.960 of country hospitality that feels like family. As a proud 2009 01:56:16.000 --> 01:56:20.159 American institution, our seventy thousand hardworking employees look forward to 2010 01:56:20.199 --> 01:56:23.720 welcoming you to our table soon. Found in nineteen sixty 2011 01:56:23.800 --> 01:56:26.720 nine in Lebanon, Tennessee, there are now more than six 2012 01:56:26.800 --> 01:56:30.319 hundred Cracker Barrel restaurants across the US. Stores typically have 2013 01:56:30.479 --> 01:56:34.039 a front porch with rocking chairs and a gift shop. Restaurants. Yeah, 2014 01:56:34.039 --> 01:56:37.279 we talked about the Southern style food such as mass potatoes, 2015 01:56:37.319 --> 01:56:41.239 hash brown casserole, and macaroni and cheese. So whoever was 2016 01:56:41.279 --> 01:56:45.680 in charge of this rebrand instantly regretted this decision. Their 2017 01:56:45.800 --> 01:56:48.880 stock prices plummeted. And I'm also curious what the difference 2018 01:56:48.920 --> 01:56:50.960 was in the old menu versus the new menu. I 2019 01:56:50.960 --> 01:56:53.039 don't know what they took off or added. I don't know, 2020 01:56:53.800 --> 01:56:56.039 but I for one, am happy that they're going back 2021 01:56:56.039 --> 01:57:05.720 to their original logo. I personally love Cracker Barrel. But anyway, Yes, Sam. 2022 01:57:02.960 --> 01:57:06.039 The old timer, his name is Uncle Herschel. 2023 01:57:06.239 --> 01:57:10.079 He's actually based on the guy, the founder's actual uncle. 2024 01:57:10.640 --> 01:57:11.760 And it's funny. 2025 01:57:12.039 --> 01:57:15.159 Oh, they took away Aunt Jemiah, who's based off of 2026 01:57:15.199 --> 01:57:17.439 the actual woman. And then you got Uncle Ben they 2027 01:57:17.479 --> 01:57:19.600 took away from and they took the Indian out. They 2028 01:57:19.680 --> 01:57:21.479 kept the larmb but threw the Indian off of the 2029 01:57:21.560 --> 01:57:24.680 damn butter Box, and then they try to take Uncle 2030 01:57:24.720 --> 01:57:27.560 Hershel from his act, from the family business. 2031 01:57:29.600 --> 01:57:31.960 I am much more in favor of them keeping the 2032 01:57:32.000 --> 01:57:34.319 old brand. I don't think that it should have gotten 2033 01:57:34.359 --> 01:57:36.840 the amount of publicity that it got. Companies changed their 2034 01:57:36.840 --> 01:57:41.079 logos all the time. But also I'm glad that enough 2035 01:57:41.079 --> 01:57:43.000 of the public was so pissed off about it that 2036 01:57:43.039 --> 01:57:45.479 they decided to go back to what was working. If 2037 01:57:45.520 --> 01:57:48.079 it ain't broke, don't fix it. And for some reason, 2038 01:57:48.119 --> 01:57:50.880 these companies keep trying to fix what is not broken, 2039 01:57:51.319 --> 01:57:55.239 and they wonder why their stocks plummet afterwards. It's it's 2040 01:57:55.279 --> 01:57:56.039 maddening to me. 2041 01:57:56.159 --> 01:57:59.920 But look at McDonald's. Like McDonald's I grew up. It 2042 01:58:00.239 --> 01:58:04.840 was a colorable, playful place. Now I'm a depressed dot 2043 01:58:04.880 --> 01:58:07.760 and McDonald's like a depressed adult, and I don't like it. 2044 01:58:07.800 --> 01:58:10.720 I need an adult. You adult. 2045 01:58:10.760 --> 01:58:15.720 Rebranded McDonald's rebranded, Pizza Hut rebranded. All of these big 2046 01:58:16.119 --> 01:58:20.199 chain food restaurants have rebranded in one way, shape or form. 2047 01:58:20.279 --> 01:58:23.000 And then they noticed that not as many people still 2048 01:58:23.399 --> 01:58:25.399 come there, and they just can't figure out why. And 2049 01:58:25.399 --> 01:58:29.560 it's like, because you did the cardinal sin of business. 2050 01:58:30.000 --> 01:58:33.039 If it's not broken, don't fix it. If business is booming, 2051 01:58:33.520 --> 01:58:37.880 continue doing exactly what you're doing. Don't change a thing. 2052 01:58:38.000 --> 01:58:40.840 Why why would you change anything? But they just they 2053 01:58:41.079 --> 01:58:43.159 for some reason, when they go to the open market, 2054 01:58:43.279 --> 01:58:46.399 they get this new border directors, a new CEO, whatever 2055 01:58:46.399 --> 01:58:49.600 the case is. They get all these quote unquote business 2056 01:58:49.600 --> 01:58:51.800 experts who are probably fresh out of college and have 2057 01:58:51.840 --> 01:58:54.439 never actually accomplished anything on their own to come in 2058 01:58:54.479 --> 01:58:56.640 and tell them all the things that they're doing wrong, 2059 01:58:56.840 --> 01:58:58.880 even though they got to their level of success by 2060 01:58:58.920 --> 01:59:02.279 doing exactly what they know how to do right. And 2061 01:59:02.800 --> 01:59:05.640 it never works out, It always is a net negative. 2062 01:59:05.680 --> 01:59:09.279 But for some reason they keep trying. So perhaps Cracker 2063 01:59:09.319 --> 01:59:11.520 Barrel saw the error of their ways and will not 2064 01:59:11.640 --> 01:59:16.119 make such a ridiculous mistake again. We can only hope, yes. 2065 01:59:16.159 --> 01:59:19.159 See anyway, all right, like I said, I wanted to 2066 01:59:19.239 --> 01:59:21.720 end this episode on a lighter note once again, for 2067 01:59:21.760 --> 01:59:24.159 anybody who would like to join in the conversation next week, 2068 01:59:24.199 --> 01:59:25.840 the link is in the description below. Go to the 2069 01:59:25.840 --> 01:59:29.800 Cajun Night on Patreon. As always, thank you everybody for 2070 01:59:29.880 --> 01:59:32.399 joining me this evening. I am the Cajun Knight, and 2071 01:59:32.439 --> 02:00:04.279 as always, God bless