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First it was Craig Bowler, Jack and Gordon Monson, 18 00:00:58.719 --> 00:01:03.439 followed by Spence Check It's in Monson now all three 19 00:01:03.479 --> 00:01:07.680 are reunited on the drive It's time for the Big 20 00:01:07.719 --> 00:01:12.079 Show Hour on the Drive it spends check its exclusively 21 00:01:12.239 --> 00:01:14.480 on ESPN seven hundred. 22 00:01:17.840 --> 00:01:18.040 Man. 23 00:01:18.120 --> 00:01:21.280 Where to start today with these two legends live in 24 00:01:21.400 --> 00:01:24.239 studio Craig Ball of Jack Ordon Monson Reunited. 25 00:01:24.280 --> 00:01:26.040 Guys, it's been a few weeks. How we doing. 26 00:01:26.359 --> 00:01:27.159 It's it's good. 27 00:01:27.159 --> 00:01:30.079 It's good to be here. See Gordo and you know, 28 00:01:30.200 --> 00:01:34.200 live in and got his hat on again. He dresses 29 00:01:34.319 --> 00:01:37.079 with you know, Goer Animals color coordinator. 30 00:01:37.480 --> 00:01:41.319 I would say this is an attempted match, an attempted 31 00:01:41.359 --> 00:01:44.000 match today with the Phillies hat and the Shark's shirt. 32 00:01:44.040 --> 00:01:46.760 But you're just a little off shoes with the what 33 00:01:47.239 --> 00:01:47.680 the tone? 34 00:01:47.719 --> 00:01:49.719 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, you know I actually did them. 35 00:01:50.000 --> 00:01:51.519 The shoes are they? 36 00:01:51.840 --> 00:01:52.959 Oh? 37 00:01:53.120 --> 00:01:53.599 Okay? 38 00:01:54.560 --> 00:01:56.680 Shoes match the hat, I would ask, But there's no 39 00:01:56.680 --> 00:01:58.480 way's getting his leg that high for me to be 40 00:01:58.480 --> 00:01:58.920 able to see. 41 00:01:59.040 --> 00:02:00.000 You don't want to see that anyway. 42 00:02:00.120 --> 00:02:00.319 It was. 43 00:02:02.000 --> 00:02:03.079 I wasn't field goal kicker. 44 00:02:03.280 --> 00:02:06.680 You know that the tutorials that you've given our listeners 45 00:02:06.680 --> 00:02:08.120 over the years on kicking field goals. 46 00:02:08.120 --> 00:02:11.039 What was your longest that you hit? Were you a sidewinder? 47 00:02:11.120 --> 00:02:12.879 Did you go straight up with a square toe? 48 00:02:13.080 --> 00:02:13.280 Uh? 49 00:02:13.439 --> 00:02:17.240 I was sort of a mix because this old school. 50 00:02:17.319 --> 00:02:19.560 Okay, he literally said, to kick a field goal, you 51 00:02:19.599 --> 00:02:20.599 swing your leg back. 52 00:02:20.879 --> 00:02:22.759 Yeah, and a bunch of other things. Yeah, a bunch 53 00:02:22.759 --> 00:02:23.199 of It's like. 54 00:02:23.319 --> 00:02:24.319 Kind of like a golf swing. 55 00:02:24.439 --> 00:02:26.560 But you know you're going to concentrate, you keep your 56 00:02:26.599 --> 00:02:28.960 head down, yes, follow through. 57 00:02:29.080 --> 00:02:33.000 Yeah, all right, great to see you guys. Bowler's got 58 00:02:33.000 --> 00:02:35.960 his case State hat on. Gordo has his Phillies hat 59 00:02:36.000 --> 00:02:39.080 on at his baseball season. But let's let's start with 60 00:02:39.240 --> 00:02:41.719 jazz and then we'll end with college football because a 61 00:02:41.759 --> 00:02:43.599 lot of people want to do a little college football. 62 00:02:44.240 --> 00:02:48.120 So Bowler as the voice of the Utah Jazz, we'll start. 63 00:02:47.919 --> 00:02:49.759 With you and then Gordo will have you chime in. 64 00:02:49.800 --> 00:02:50.199 For sure. 65 00:02:52.240 --> 00:02:54.719 As we inch closer and closer to the season, I 66 00:02:54.800 --> 00:02:57.800 find myself more and more excited simply to have NBA 67 00:02:57.879 --> 00:03:02.120 basketball back. And you hear talk and you know, we 68 00:03:02.159 --> 00:03:05.400 had some media availability with Justin and Danny and Ryan 69 00:03:05.479 --> 00:03:08.719 last week. What's the feeling like in the building is 70 00:03:08.759 --> 00:03:12.560 it are we close enough that the excitement is kind 71 00:03:12.560 --> 00:03:14.360 of spilling in? Do you still feel like there's a 72 00:03:14.360 --> 00:03:17.120 little bit of an ambiguity feel around the Community's what's 73 00:03:17.159 --> 00:03:18.199 the buzz right now. 74 00:03:18.000 --> 00:03:22.120 I was at the ZBBC. Will invited us in yesterday 75 00:03:22.199 --> 00:03:25.639 for the two hours and it was a lively practice. 76 00:03:26.719 --> 00:03:28.960 There's a lot of youth as we know, a lot 77 00:03:29.000 --> 00:03:32.520 of athletes as we know, and there's more speed on 78 00:03:32.560 --> 00:03:36.400 the floor that I've seen in quite a while. I 79 00:03:36.479 --> 00:03:39.000 thought it was competitive. I thought it was positive. But 80 00:03:39.039 --> 00:03:41.039 what else is new before you hit the FLOORID tomorrow 81 00:03:41.120 --> 00:03:45.639 night against the New Zealand Breakers. So preseason game one 82 00:03:46.159 --> 00:03:49.000 is about twenty seven hours or so away, Gordo, and 83 00:03:49.520 --> 00:03:52.080 you know what you'll see. My guess the five that 84 00:03:52.120 --> 00:03:56.039 we'll see on the floor to start is Kyante, Colin, Sexton, Kessler, 85 00:03:56.080 --> 00:03:58.800 Hendricks and Market and who's got the five year deal 86 00:03:58.840 --> 00:04:02.120 in his pocket. You know, we talked to all the 87 00:04:02.159 --> 00:04:08.319 players on content day on Monday, and you know there 88 00:04:08.360 --> 00:04:10.960 were some great questions asked, and you know, I didn't 89 00:04:10.960 --> 00:04:16.720 see much rebellion. I think the vets understand Spence what's 90 00:04:16.759 --> 00:04:21.079 going on, and I don't think I know. And that's 91 00:04:21.120 --> 00:04:25.879 important because Will does have a I think a really 92 00:04:25.920 --> 00:04:30.480 great sense of personality and who needs to know what 93 00:04:30.720 --> 00:04:32.959 and when and be upfront and I think this is 94 00:04:33.000 --> 00:04:37.480 the time to be upfront with Jordan Clarkson, John Collins, 95 00:04:37.560 --> 00:04:42.079 Colin Sexton, and we know marketing is sealed in a 96 00:04:42.160 --> 00:04:44.720 deal for five years and he's going to be well paid. 97 00:04:44.720 --> 00:04:46.759 But you know what, he also made a very clear point. 98 00:04:46.800 --> 00:04:48.959 He was pressed and I asked him again too, why 99 00:04:49.680 --> 00:04:52.319 you know he likes it here? And that's something we 100 00:04:52.319 --> 00:04:55.439 don't hear much from a vet that says I like 101 00:04:55.480 --> 00:04:55.759 it here. 102 00:04:55.759 --> 00:04:55.879 Now. 103 00:04:55.920 --> 00:04:58.759 The money's great two hundred and let me double check 104 00:04:58.839 --> 00:05:01.199 my number two thirty. 105 00:05:00.920 --> 00:05:03.560 Eight, the largest deal in jazz history. 106 00:05:03.279 --> 00:05:06.839 By far, and so yeah, by far. And so with 107 00:05:06.959 --> 00:05:11.079 that in mind, you know, does he get complacent? I 108 00:05:11.519 --> 00:05:15.279 just don't get that feeling. I know he's thankful for 109 00:05:15.360 --> 00:05:16.079 the opportunity. 110 00:05:16.120 --> 00:05:16.920 He wants to lead. 111 00:05:17.199 --> 00:05:18.160 Let's see if he does. 112 00:05:18.240 --> 00:05:20.319 You don't have to worry about that guy, Craig. He's 113 00:05:20.360 --> 00:05:21.120 gonna he's gonna. 114 00:05:21.399 --> 00:05:23.120 I think he's gonna bring you. Yeah, And I you know, 115 00:05:23.160 --> 00:05:24.959 he's a guy can shoot the hell out of the three, 116 00:05:25.079 --> 00:05:26.720 can step in the corner, he can hit the wing, 117 00:05:26.839 --> 00:05:30.680 he can do a trailer three above the break. I mean, 118 00:05:30.959 --> 00:05:34.360 he's a he's a really dynamic young player and the 119 00:05:34.480 --> 00:05:37.480 jazz can build around him. But the question for me. 120 00:05:38.279 --> 00:05:40.879 You know, does anybody pop and what I mean by that? 121 00:05:40.959 --> 00:05:44.319 In year two, does Kyante say it's I'm really gonna 122 00:05:44.319 --> 00:05:46.920 play this position and I'm gonna be the guy. I 123 00:05:46.959 --> 00:05:48.480 want to be a leader. He told us that I 124 00:05:48.560 --> 00:05:51.120 want to be you know, have my voice heard? Okay, 125 00:05:51.720 --> 00:05:55.279 but you're you're The way you play will also dictate 126 00:05:55.920 --> 00:05:58.480 the responsibility that you have to be as a leader 127 00:05:58.519 --> 00:05:59.920 on this team and in the locker room. 128 00:06:00.040 --> 00:06:02.639 Oh no, we said last week that. And this is 129 00:06:02.680 --> 00:06:06.120 just my vantage point, my echo chamber. It just feels 130 00:06:06.160 --> 00:06:11.079 like there's a general, uh, I don't know, malaise or 131 00:06:11.199 --> 00:06:14.319 just there's not the typical buzz for Jazz basketball as 132 00:06:14.319 --> 00:06:16.000 there is now. You know me, I'm an NBA guy, 133 00:06:16.079 --> 00:06:18.000 so as the Jazz get closed, so I'm just pumped 134 00:06:18.000 --> 00:06:20.839 for basketball. You still feel that way a week later 135 00:06:20.879 --> 00:06:23.600 that there's just not necessarily the community excitement there. 136 00:06:23.480 --> 00:06:24.720 Typically is for Jazz hoops. 137 00:06:24.720 --> 00:06:27.399 Well, now that they have had the media day and 138 00:06:27.560 --> 00:06:30.160 all that sort of thing, camp is opening up, maybe 139 00:06:30.240 --> 00:06:33.560 I'll Smidgemore, but not a whole lot more. And that's 140 00:06:33.600 --> 00:06:37.040 not really that uncommon. Remember back to the Stockton Malone years, 141 00:06:37.360 --> 00:06:40.399 it would take through football season before people started filling 142 00:06:40.439 --> 00:06:41.240 the building. 143 00:06:40.959 --> 00:06:44.160 And it's still well, they still fill the building. 144 00:06:44.160 --> 00:06:46.480 But your point, I think it still takes through football 145 00:06:46.480 --> 00:06:48.879 season for most people to really dial in sort of. 146 00:06:49.040 --> 00:06:51.600 And in a situation like this where there are questions, 147 00:06:51.879 --> 00:06:54.879 we all have questions. Spence, I've heard you talk about 148 00:06:54.879 --> 00:06:58.480 this and I agree with you. One, what's the direction 149 00:06:58.600 --> 00:07:00.319 of the team. Well, it seems as though so now 150 00:07:00.360 --> 00:07:02.079 the direction of the team is development. 151 00:07:02.160 --> 00:07:02.560 That's it. 152 00:07:03.000 --> 00:07:05.279 Well, when I hear the word development, I see the 153 00:07:05.279 --> 00:07:09.879 word defeat. That's kind of what I see. But I'm 154 00:07:09.920 --> 00:07:13.600 not sure it matters to him anymore. Yeah, they want 155 00:07:13.800 --> 00:07:17.319 competitive integrity, so they don't want to say the T word. 156 00:07:17.399 --> 00:07:19.720 Yeah we're going to tank and all that. No, they're 157 00:07:19.759 --> 00:07:20.879 not going to talk like that. 158 00:07:21.360 --> 00:07:24.040 But when they talk about development, Bowler, we're going to 159 00:07:24.120 --> 00:07:26.160 see these young guys on the floor and we're going 160 00:07:26.199 --> 00:07:28.959 to see what they can do. And you mentioned Keante George. 161 00:07:29.000 --> 00:07:31.959 He's a great example. Now, if he's trying to prove 162 00:07:32.040 --> 00:07:35.160 to everybody how good he is, how does he do that. 163 00:07:35.480 --> 00:07:37.439 Does he do it by trying to dominate the ball? 164 00:07:37.480 --> 00:07:39.279 Does he do it by shooting too much? Or does 165 00:07:39.319 --> 00:07:41.600 he do it by setting up the entire team to 166 00:07:41.600 --> 00:07:42.399 make the whole team. 167 00:07:42.639 --> 00:07:45.040 Your third point is where he has to be. He 168 00:07:45.120 --> 00:07:48.439 has to be a distributor, a facilitator, and then the 169 00:07:48.480 --> 00:07:51.720 shot comes. So what will one simply is a guy 170 00:07:51.759 --> 00:07:55.600 that can get his teammates involved, run the floor, back 171 00:07:55.639 --> 00:07:57.639 off the turnovers from two and a half a game 172 00:07:57.759 --> 00:08:00.879 last year. And I talked to Will about that pacifically. 173 00:08:00.920 --> 00:08:03.959 And remember the second half of the season Spence, after 174 00:08:04.000 --> 00:08:08.000 the All Star break and the movement of the youth 175 00:08:08.079 --> 00:08:12.839 movement began there. They basically threw Kyante in the fire 176 00:08:13.279 --> 00:08:15.920 and said, go play. Understand what it's like to be 177 00:08:15.959 --> 00:08:19.279 a point guard in the NBA. It wasn't pretty most 178 00:08:19.319 --> 00:08:22.399 of the time. We know he can shoot free throws, 179 00:08:22.839 --> 00:08:27.000 but it's about growth, it's about distributing the ball. It's 180 00:08:27.040 --> 00:08:30.920 about because they packed the paint defenses made a very 181 00:08:30.959 --> 00:08:34.559 clear look, who's going to beat us on this team, 182 00:08:34.919 --> 00:08:36.639 and we're just going to put pressure on the ball. 183 00:08:36.799 --> 00:08:39.519 And they did that a lot in Kyante when you're 184 00:08:39.879 --> 00:08:42.320 never played the position, and now he's learning how to 185 00:08:42.360 --> 00:08:45.120 be a point guard and the mentality it takes to 186 00:08:45.200 --> 00:08:48.399 actually share the ball and understand where your teammates are. 187 00:08:50.399 --> 00:08:52.000 He told us the other day that you know, he 188 00:08:52.080 --> 00:08:55.080 feels like he's come a long way. But practice is 189 00:08:55.120 --> 00:08:57.159 different than a game, and we'll get a taste of 190 00:08:57.200 --> 00:09:00.639 it against New Zealand tomorrow night. Not NBA so called talent, 191 00:09:01.159 --> 00:09:03.639 but guys that have been around the international game. What 192 00:09:03.759 --> 00:09:06.240 ros will That's what I want to see for sure, 193 00:09:06.440 --> 00:09:09.519 is want to see second unit. Does JC see the floor? 194 00:09:09.559 --> 00:09:12.559 Does Colin see the floor? I think there'll be some minutes, 195 00:09:12.679 --> 00:09:16.200 but any minutes taken away from the youth of this team, 196 00:09:16.240 --> 00:09:18.919 including the rookies that came in and the second rounder 197 00:09:18.919 --> 00:09:21.840 in Philipowski, I mean, it's it's it's it's minutes that 198 00:09:21.879 --> 00:09:25.480 they won't get back. But I'm anxious to see again. 199 00:09:25.559 --> 00:09:29.320 They say we're gonna play to win. Now again that 200 00:09:29.440 --> 00:09:32.679 means youth on the floor. And can that youth, can 201 00:09:32.679 --> 00:09:35.480 that package that will use as in the first and 202 00:09:35.559 --> 00:09:39.200 second rotations? What does that mean against really good teams 203 00:09:39.200 --> 00:09:40.840 in the NBA. It's gonna be tough. 204 00:09:40.919 --> 00:09:43.720 It's not play to win like our lives depend on it. 205 00:09:43.840 --> 00:09:46.120 Because if they were doing that, some of the more 206 00:09:46.159 --> 00:09:47.279 veteran guys, we'll get. 207 00:09:47.120 --> 00:09:49.200 More time, no doubt. If that runs counter to what 208 00:09:49.200 --> 00:09:50.120 they want to do right. 209 00:09:50.320 --> 00:09:54.360 Spence is a former point guard yourself, I gotta ask you, 210 00:09:54.360 --> 00:09:56.200 you know, how will that play out? 211 00:09:56.519 --> 00:09:57.000 Especially? 212 00:09:57.440 --> 00:09:59.720 I mean, how much does Patty Mills play? And how 213 00:09:59.799 --> 00:10:04.799 much does Keante if he's distributing the ball? Not just 214 00:10:04.840 --> 00:10:06.600 a mark and then but a bunch of other sort 215 00:10:06.600 --> 00:10:09.399 of question marks are guys who are still developing. What 216 00:10:09.480 --> 00:10:11.320 kind of effect does that have on the point guard 217 00:10:11.399 --> 00:10:12.440 and his mentality. 218 00:10:12.519 --> 00:10:14.600 I'm the wrong guy to asked this because you are 219 00:10:14.639 --> 00:10:18.480 shooting point guard well, but my tendency to shoot every 220 00:10:18.519 --> 00:10:21.320 time I touched it. Notwithstanding, I'm the wrong guy asked 221 00:10:21.320 --> 00:10:24.679 this because I don't want Patty Mills to play one minute, okay, 222 00:10:24.759 --> 00:10:26.960 and I don't want Drew Eubanks to play one minute, 223 00:10:27.440 --> 00:10:30.240 you know I honestly I don't want Lowry to play 224 00:10:30.240 --> 00:10:32.600 a bunch. I'm the wrong guy asked this because I 225 00:10:32.600 --> 00:10:34.639 want all the kids to play, so you win eight 226 00:10:34.679 --> 00:10:37.240 games and maybe draft Cooper Flag Like I have a 227 00:10:37.320 --> 00:10:40.840 long term vision and play that doesn't include hearing David 228 00:10:40.840 --> 00:10:43.159 Locke talk about Patty Mills and Drew you Banks pick 229 00:10:43.159 --> 00:10:44.200 and roll in the second quarter. 230 00:10:44.279 --> 00:10:45.240 I don't give a rip. 231 00:10:46.080 --> 00:10:49.039 I just don't like congrat and look I don't want 232 00:10:49.039 --> 00:10:51.039 to be disrespectful. Patty Mills has had a hell of 233 00:10:51.080 --> 00:10:53.799 a career as an NBA champ. Watching him play with 234 00:10:53.840 --> 00:10:56.600 the Australian national team, he played like he was Lebron. 235 00:10:56.679 --> 00:10:59.879 I mean, he oftentimes balled out for the national team. 236 00:11:00.519 --> 00:11:02.440 But I don't none of the vets they brought in 237 00:11:02.519 --> 00:11:02.879 moved the. 238 00:11:02.840 --> 00:11:05.840 Needle at all. I get why you bring Lowry back 239 00:11:05.840 --> 00:11:08.879 because he's awesome. But if we're sitting here in April 240 00:11:09.080 --> 00:11:11.559 and May and we're like, hey, congrats on the thirty 241 00:11:11.600 --> 00:11:15.120 one wins, guys, and they draft eleventh next year, I'm 242 00:11:15.159 --> 00:11:15.840 gonna lose it. 243 00:11:15.960 --> 00:11:17.039 I've already done it twice. 244 00:11:17.120 --> 00:11:18.240 I'm just like over it. 245 00:11:18.360 --> 00:11:21.759 And so to Craig's point, what I'm excited about, Let's 246 00:11:21.759 --> 00:11:24.039 see what Kante is in year two. Let's see who 247 00:11:24.039 --> 00:11:26.200 Walker Kessler is in year three. Your three is a 248 00:11:26.240 --> 00:11:29.519 big deal for NBA rookies. It's why the NBA rookie scale. 249 00:11:29.559 --> 00:11:31.080 You have three years to figure it out. 250 00:11:31.159 --> 00:11:33.200 This is the pop year. Yes, and I heard you. 251 00:11:33.840 --> 00:11:35.720 And if you don't figure out after year three, guess 252 00:11:35.759 --> 00:11:38.440 what happened? You get for debted the Kings don't pick 253 00:11:38.480 --> 00:11:41.000 up your option. Then suddenly you're in China. Yeah, right, 254 00:11:41.159 --> 00:11:43.440 that's a good point. Taylor Hendricks has put on some pounds, 255 00:11:43.480 --> 00:11:44.159 which he needed. 256 00:11:44.240 --> 00:11:46.600 We are in weight gain season. We are, so is it? 257 00:11:46.759 --> 00:11:47.000 Is it? 258 00:11:47.039 --> 00:11:49.120 Because every look I said, twenty one? 259 00:11:49.279 --> 00:11:50.360 How do you do twenty one? 260 00:11:50.600 --> 00:11:50.879 I heard? 261 00:11:51.000 --> 00:11:53.639 I'm sorry, he corrected that. He said about nineteen. 262 00:11:53.799 --> 00:11:56.320 I was listening to a bunch of coaching availability on 263 00:11:56.600 --> 00:12:00.279 NBA TV just to kind of see, and every single one, Oh, 264 00:12:00.320 --> 00:12:02.799 my man's gained twenty five pounds. Yeah, when you gain 265 00:12:02.879 --> 00:12:04.639 twenty pounds, Gordon, nobody celebrates. 266 00:12:04.840 --> 00:12:07.279 So Craig, Craig, you've seen them. 267 00:12:07.159 --> 00:12:08.039 In I have. 268 00:12:08.159 --> 00:12:10.600 I tell you, he looks, he looks bold. What about Walker? 269 00:12:10.600 --> 00:12:12.080 Walker claims he's two seventy two. 270 00:12:12.200 --> 00:12:17.279 Walk Walker looks look healthy today. Okay, good marketing, the 271 00:12:17.320 --> 00:12:20.440 Mountain marketing. I'd tell you had some guns showing. 272 00:12:20.519 --> 00:12:20.720 Yeah. 273 00:12:20.720 --> 00:12:23.519 But then big t steps in, who knows what it's 274 00:12:23.559 --> 00:12:26.240 like to play in this league and burn calories. He says, Look, 275 00:12:26.360 --> 00:12:29.240 let's talk again at game fifty and see if you 276 00:12:29.279 --> 00:12:34.399 can maintain the weight thorough still today nearly a seven footer, 277 00:12:34.960 --> 00:12:35.879 slim trim. 278 00:12:36.159 --> 00:12:37.120 I'm but he keeps himself. 279 00:12:37.240 --> 00:12:39.480 But the metabolism that he ran you know, he told 280 00:12:39.559 --> 00:12:42.279 me he had to put down ten thousand calories a 281 00:12:42.360 --> 00:12:46.200 day during the season just to maintain weight. He would 282 00:12:46.240 --> 00:12:48.240 come in and gain twenty in the offseason, but it 283 00:12:48.279 --> 00:12:52.000 burned off quickly. And so can Taylor Hendrix with the 284 00:12:52.080 --> 00:12:55.960 riggers of eighty two games and thirty plus minutes survive 285 00:12:56.639 --> 00:12:57.879 and or is he just going to stay in and 286 00:12:57.879 --> 00:13:01.440 stand at the chuck a Rama buffet and consume. 287 00:13:02.000 --> 00:13:04.039 I have I have a question for you, Bawler, and 288 00:13:04.080 --> 00:13:06.080 it relates to what Spencer was talking about. 289 00:13:06.440 --> 00:13:09.240 As the voice of the Jazz. How do you feel 290 00:13:09.279 --> 00:13:10.559 about what he just said? 291 00:13:10.840 --> 00:13:13.480 No, I think he's got good points. I mean, I 292 00:13:13.480 --> 00:13:16.519 I you know, I'll say that, you know because I 293 00:13:16.559 --> 00:13:19.480 agree with you see on Twitter all the time that 294 00:13:19.559 --> 00:13:21.639 you know, because I work for the Jazz. You know 295 00:13:21.679 --> 00:13:23.799 you have to say the right thing. Look, I've always 296 00:13:23.799 --> 00:13:25.639 tried to be fair and you are and I and 297 00:13:25.679 --> 00:13:27.960 I call a game, I see it. I still get criticized, Oh, 298 00:13:27.960 --> 00:13:30.399 you're tough on Kiante tonight, or I keep track of 299 00:13:30.440 --> 00:13:33.000 turnovers tell the freak trol. No, they're seeing the same 300 00:13:33.039 --> 00:13:35.080 thing I am. I did it, and you know at CBS. 301 00:13:35.240 --> 00:13:37.120 You know when I had when I had two teams 302 00:13:37.159 --> 00:13:39.399 on the field, you're calling it. I can't help that. 303 00:13:39.480 --> 00:13:42.840 A team's up forty to nothing at halftime and the 304 00:13:42.840 --> 00:13:46.679 Bengals fans are upset because the Patriots have run them 305 00:13:46.720 --> 00:13:49.559 over and they feel like we're one sided. I understand that. 306 00:13:49.720 --> 00:13:52.480 Believe me, I did it for twenty five years and 307 00:13:52.519 --> 00:13:56.080 I get it. But look the jazz. I'm not gonna 308 00:13:56.080 --> 00:13:58.879 sit there and just play pay pay play Patty Cake, 309 00:13:59.279 --> 00:14:01.519 you know all the time? Uh, And you know Big 310 00:14:01.559 --> 00:14:03.399 T and I have a job to do. You see 311 00:14:03.399 --> 00:14:04.600 what I see the fan does. 312 00:14:04.679 --> 00:14:06.480 But I'm not so much talking about that. I know 313 00:14:06.519 --> 00:14:07.120 you will do that. 314 00:14:07.519 --> 00:14:09.559 But the part I'm asking about, what is it like 315 00:14:09.720 --> 00:14:14.159 to call games for a team that might win nine games? 316 00:14:14.200 --> 00:14:17.200 It's not easy, you know what. You're trying to do 317 00:14:17.240 --> 00:14:20.399 the best you can to look at the positive. Look. 318 00:14:20.440 --> 00:14:22.519 I can sit there all night and just dig a grave, 319 00:14:23.080 --> 00:14:25.679 But in reality, let's see what this kid can do. 320 00:14:25.759 --> 00:14:29.360 What is Kiante about? What's uh? How how does Patty Mills? 321 00:14:29.440 --> 00:14:31.720 Why did they bring him here to Well? We know 322 00:14:31.799 --> 00:14:34.799 why because Will coached him in San Antonio, believes in 323 00:14:34.919 --> 00:14:37.080 him and thinks he can be a voice in the 324 00:14:37.080 --> 00:14:40.600 locker room that a pup right now needs. And these 325 00:14:40.600 --> 00:14:43.840 guys are pups, so Will said a great thing the 326 00:14:43.879 --> 00:14:46.399 other day. A pup can't really coach a pup or 327 00:14:46.559 --> 00:14:49.840 mentor a pup. They need a bulldog, they need a 328 00:14:50.240 --> 00:14:52.799 they needed they need someone who's been there, and Mills 329 00:14:52.840 --> 00:14:53.480 has done it all. 330 00:14:53.759 --> 00:14:55.960 There a song about pups growing up. 331 00:14:57.480 --> 00:15:01.759 It is yeah, yeah, good pl But I just you know, okay, 332 00:15:01.840 --> 00:15:03.919 so this is let me make an analogy here. 333 00:15:06.159 --> 00:15:08.000 I don't think to spend this point. I don't think 334 00:15:08.000 --> 00:15:09.080 they win seven games. 335 00:15:09.639 --> 00:15:10.039 I think that. 336 00:15:10.240 --> 00:15:14.039 I think again, the DNA of this franchise is different 337 00:15:14.080 --> 00:15:16.840 than that. Now, if something would occur that they just 338 00:15:16.919 --> 00:15:21.000 continue to get minutes but don't don't produce justin Xanak 339 00:15:21.039 --> 00:15:23.399 and Danny will accept that. And then again, in the 340 00:15:23.440 --> 00:15:26.840 positive sense, they would find themselves in a in a 341 00:15:27.240 --> 00:15:31.480 better uh draft picks selection selection. They have picks to 342 00:15:31.639 --> 00:15:34.840 use as well. If they want to move up, we'll see. 343 00:15:35.080 --> 00:15:37.120 But it's going to be intriguing. I think they feel 344 00:15:37.159 --> 00:15:39.440 that there's some talent here, but they also I think 345 00:15:39.480 --> 00:15:42.879 the Jazz made it very clear that this is a 346 00:15:43.000 --> 00:15:46.039 year more than last year, where they are going to 347 00:15:46.120 --> 00:15:50.360 evaluate hard and there are data points that they get 348 00:15:50.399 --> 00:15:53.840 every day that will decide who goes and who stays. 349 00:15:53.879 --> 00:15:55.440 It's not easy to play in this league. 350 00:15:57.320 --> 00:15:58.360 Yeah, this is what they're going to do. 351 00:15:58.440 --> 00:16:00.840 And so that that this year, I think more or 352 00:16:00.879 --> 00:16:03.519 less you're going to see guys who want to be 353 00:16:03.559 --> 00:16:05.720 in this league not going to be here for the 354 00:16:05.799 --> 00:16:09.879 jazz at the end, right, Yeah, because it should be. Yeah, 355 00:16:10.039 --> 00:16:11.799 I mean, you just can't say, okay, let's give him 356 00:16:11.799 --> 00:16:13.600 another year. Let's give him another year. No, this is 357 00:16:13.639 --> 00:16:17.279 a win now league. And even though Danny has this 358 00:16:19.120 --> 00:16:22.320 persona around the league about being you know, a hellish 359 00:16:22.320 --> 00:16:24.120 trade guy and put you on the you know, put 360 00:16:24.159 --> 00:16:27.080 your take away, everything you got to get whatever. And 361 00:16:27.120 --> 00:16:28.960 of course he has a championship as a player and 362 00:16:29.000 --> 00:16:32.279 as a general manager, and so that's a lot of 363 00:16:32.279 --> 00:16:33.279 pressure to bring here. 364 00:16:33.840 --> 00:16:39.080 Here's my predictions, my analogy. All right, Thurle is going 365 00:16:39.159 --> 00:16:41.200 to be well, okay, let me say it this way. 366 00:16:41.559 --> 00:16:43.120 You've heard of Lennon and McCartney. 367 00:16:43.399 --> 00:16:48.039 Of course, Bowler's going to be Lenin and Thurrell is 368 00:16:48.080 --> 00:16:49.080 going to be McCarthy. 369 00:16:49.200 --> 00:16:50.679 In other words, I see what you're laying down. 370 00:16:50.759 --> 00:16:55.120 Yeah, Thurle is going to say everything is getting better better, 371 00:16:55.200 --> 00:16:58.960 all the time, and Bowler's going to say it can't 372 00:16:58.960 --> 00:16:59.759 get no worse. 373 00:17:00.360 --> 00:17:00.960 It's actually not. 374 00:17:01.639 --> 00:17:03.799 And look, doing this with you for almost a decade, 375 00:17:03.879 --> 00:17:05.160 it's not near your worst. 376 00:17:05.519 --> 00:17:06.680 I'll tell you that much right now. 377 00:17:06.960 --> 00:17:10.720 Let me ask you this though, because during the Ryan, 378 00:17:11.480 --> 00:17:16.160 Danny and Zanik roundtable, and I love Justin, he gets it, 379 00:17:16.400 --> 00:17:19.359 you know, but when asked about the and I'm sure 380 00:17:19.440 --> 00:17:21.920 Danny really wishes he never said big game hunting because 381 00:17:21.920 --> 00:17:24.200 that's been thrown at him a million times. If you 382 00:17:24.240 --> 00:17:26.240 go listen to the entire sound clip, he also said, 383 00:17:26.279 --> 00:17:27.519 you know, there's a chance we're gonna have to do 384 00:17:27.599 --> 00:17:30.079 other He didn't just say we're going big fishing, big 385 00:17:30.119 --> 00:17:33.720 game hunting, but that was the message. So Xanik during 386 00:17:33.799 --> 00:17:38.079 the roundtable just says there were no opportunities. 387 00:17:37.799 --> 00:17:39.079 No big game to hunt. 388 00:17:39.200 --> 00:17:43.160 Well, Clark Thompson, Paul George mckelbridge, is Karl antitiing? 389 00:17:43.279 --> 00:17:46.079 Yes, there was. The point is there was. 390 00:17:47.559 --> 00:17:47.839 Movement. 391 00:17:48.240 --> 00:17:50.680 But here's what I want to ask you, So did 392 00:17:50.720 --> 00:17:53.240 he mean that ultimately when the oppert Because there was 393 00:17:53.279 --> 00:17:55.880 also a chance to trademarket into Golden State and there 394 00:17:55.880 --> 00:17:58.160 were several big name players who moved this year, So 395 00:17:58.200 --> 00:18:00.799 there were opportunities to get involved in treeansactions. Do you 396 00:18:00.799 --> 00:18:03.640 think he meant it simply just wasn't worth the price 397 00:18:03.680 --> 00:18:06.240 they were asked to pay to make a trade for 398 00:18:06.400 --> 00:18:09.240 cal Bridges or sign a Paul George Because that confused 399 00:18:09.240 --> 00:18:09.839 me a little bit. 400 00:18:10.079 --> 00:18:11.960 Most people just ate it like, oh, they didn't have 401 00:18:11.960 --> 00:18:13.720