Speaker 1: At a book.
Speaker 2: Hey everyone, thanks so much for listening to tonight's episode
of Dogman Encounters Radio. I really appreciate you tuning in
and listening. When I recorded episode five twenty four with
tonight's guest Joe, when we wrapped up, I had really
high hopes everything was going to be really, really good
for her. She was dealing so much better with her
dog mean encounters, not only after we had our conversations
about them, but also when she saw all of your support.
So I had really high hopes. Like I said, well, unfortunately,
between now, I'm sorry. Between then and now, instead of
it being a happy ending, there have been things that
have been happening in Joe's life that, in my opinion,
are even more traumatic, much more traumatic than those dog
mean encounters as she suffered through. And if you listen
to episode five twenty four where she talked about that
dog men killing king her boyfriend's white large pit bull
and then trying to rip its way into the house
to get her and her boyfriend, if the experiences that
happened between that episode's recording and now are more intense
than that, in my opinion, quite a bit more intense,
then what does that say so. Now you can understand
why instead of being overjoyed about her doing so well
now I'm kind of down in the dumps about it.
You'll understand why I'm seeing all this once I bring
Joe in here and we have a chance to talk
about all this though, So without any further ado, let's
do that. Joe, thanks so much for coming back.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Vick. I appreciate coming back. And I want
to say hello to all my dog man family and
just tell you thank you again for all your support,
all your love. How you helped me with the GoFundMe
to get me out of the house that I was in.
There's just still no words to tell you how much
I love you, guys, and how much I appreciated that.
It brings me to tears even now noight that I
had that kind of love and support and know that
Vick's here to help me again. I just appreciate him
so much.
Speaker 2: Well, like I told you before, I'm going to do
all I can to see that through both of the
issues that you're dealing with now. It's almost like you're
jumping out of the frying pan and into the fryar.
With regards to the house you moved away from that
had that black mold problem and the house that you
live in now, we're not going to reveal what's going
on with this present house that you're living in right now.
We're not going to reveal that quite yet. I just
want to at this point ask you to please give
the listeners and missed that episode episode five twenty four
A brief bio in yourself.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I am a retired nurse. I'm sixty six
years old and now disabled because of some health issues.
But I loved being a nurse. That was my calling.
I miss it, and you know, I just felt like
that's why God put me on this planet, was to
help people that were sick, dying, family members dying, that
I could be there for them. And but it's stepping back.
I decided to go into nurses training when I was seventeen,
and we lived out in the country away from everybody,
and we live next to a stream and it would
flood really easy. And so the house that we were
living in was older, and it was built on about
six feet of cinderblots, you know, for flooding, and it
was very very old. It had several steps going up
in the front you know, and no hand railing any things.
He had to be very careful going up it. And
like I said, out in the country, there was no
street lights or anything, so it was pretty pitch black.
My mother had a little yellow bulb on the porch
and that's the only way I had to get in well.
Nurses training I started when I was seventeen, because i'd
be eighteen when I graduated, and it was pretty intense
learning how to do code blues and things. So I
would go out with two friends and the guy was
seeing sometimes in the evening and get a coke and
right around just kind of try to be a kid
again and balance it. And then I'd go in about
ten thirty, laid down to about three, get up and study,
you know. If I had a test that day. And
I was scaring a four point zero, so I was
pretty happy with the schedule. I was doing well. I
got out of the car one night and it was
exceptionally dark. There just wasn't any stars or anything, and
the yellow light was there. As I started up, I
heard something and we had some brush and trees that
were probably about thirty feet away from the porch, and
it sounded big and it sounded like it was way
up in a tree or something, because you know, I
could hear branches moving pretty high, and it sounded like
two feet and I couldn't imagine anything in Kansas that
would fit that description. I got up on the porch
and I actually walked over to the side and kind
of leaned out looking and could not see anything, but
I could hear it, and I thought, well, maybe it's
like a deer or something that tried to jump in there,
and maybe it's got its antlers caught in that tree,
and you know, it's hung up. It made me feel
bad for it, so I thought, I wonder if i'd
startled it that it would go ahead and job get clear.
So I clapped my hands and went get out of
there just as mean as I could, and I heard
a something grould at me, and I thought, now, wait
a second, I don't think here, Gral, I don't know
any thing that would have done that. And I was thinking, well,
everything sounds worse at night, you know, because I had
always tried to be a really tough girl and not
show any fear, because I had two older brothers that
teased me un mercifully if I did anything. They would
tell me I sound like a girl. So I was
trying to be very, very tough and not ever get scared,
and so I just kind of walked on in, shut
the door, and just kind of put it out of
my memory. Well, a couple of nights later, I woke
up to branches scratching on the metal roof and I
saw lightning, and I was happy about that because the
room I was in at the back of the house
had two big windows and they went from the floor
to the ceiling practically, and they were one right across
from my bed and one that was a few feet
over so that it was lined up with the hallway.
And my dad had explained to me that the house
was so old that they did that so that when
the sun was going down, you know, in the evening time,
that it would catch it and have light going down
that hallway in that bedroom for as long as they
could before they did kerosene lanterns or whatever they had
back then. And so, you know, I thought that was
pretty smart engineering that they did it that way. And
so I got my pillow and I moved it around
and was going to enjoy the show because the only
persons I had on my window were very, very very
sheer white panels. You know, I didn't need anything else.
There was nothing behind me but woods, and I could
watch the lightning how that goes acrossing and splits out
little patterns, and it is lightning in the storm is
coming that the window right across from me, about seventy
five percent of it down is blocked out. It's black,
and I'm thinking, what in the world. And I got
to thinking, I bet that's my older brother. He's out there.
He knows me in storms, and he's holding stuffing up
so I can't see it, and to kind of try
to scare me because I don't know what's at my window.
And I thought, you know, I think I'll walk over there,
and I think that I will just pull that back
and scare him, you know. And I'm thinking about doing that,
and it goes ahead and fightings a couple more times,
and I don't know why I'm not getting up and
doing what I thought. Something just was kind of like
making me hesitate a little bit because it just wasn't
sure about that. There's no way he could hold something
that high up because I know the base of the
house is up there. I mean, he had to be
eight and a half nine foot in the air where
he's holding He's holding it perfectly still. I just couldn't
see that, and I thought, that can't be him. And
we had an old shed out there, and I thought, well,
maybe my dad's laid something up against it. The storm's
not quite here and it's blocking it, you know, So
I bet that's it. So I got up, since I
was awake, went down and got a drink he is
a little girl's room, and came back. And as I
was walking back into my room, I stopped because this
black pass of whatever it was, was now over in
the other window that was lined up with the hallway
where I'm at. And I'm looking at the window on
the left, and it's clear I'm seeing lightning all the
way down now that this one has the dark in it.
I don't understand that at all, And so I thought, well,
I'm going to go over to the left win and
maybe I can look and see maybe something going around
back there. I don't know what I could be doing this.
I just couldn't come up with anything. And as I
started to go past that window to get to the
one on the left, it glided over with me. It
stayed with me even and just glided over, and I thought, now,
wait a second, I know that's not my brother. He's
never been that coordinated, and how did something that big
glide over? And I had been walking to that other window,
so I was, know, only about two and a half
feet away from it, and I'm not so sure. I
want to pull that curtain back and see what's doing that.
But yet my curiosity's getting to me. And as I'm
sitting there contemplating it, you know, the storm's getting a
little bit brighter and stuff. All of a sudden, it
comes down in height and it stops where it's even
with me. Now that scared me to the point I
started shaking pretty good because I know it can see me,
and it can see me in detail, because it's now
even with me, and I can't see it. I thought
I was safe because it can't see in here. But
something's out there and it's it's got it's got it
look on me. I mean, it's old to me. And
then I heard a little against the window of the
pat and I can hear something taking in breath like
it's trying to get my scent. And now I'm really
getting scared, you know, forget trying to play tough. I
have no idea what in the world this is. And
you know, it's lightning, and I'm trying to see, you know,
what's looking at me. And with one good lightning flash,
this thing starts to reach up to the top of
the screen on the right side, and I was in
shock because it wasn't a pau going up. It was
a looked like a hand. It was huge, like a
slower back grilla, but the fingers and stuff were kind
of bony, like a raccoons would be. And it had
five digits and at the end of each one was
a black cloth, probably two and a half to three
inches long, with just a slight curve in it. And
I couldn't believe that what in the world could that be.
And as it went up to the top of the window,
I could suddenly hear it like digging in and scraping
the wood, and I thought, oh my god, it's trying
to maybe check the integrity of this screen. Maybe it's
thinking if I get this off, I can come through
this window adder or something. And I was really scared
at that point, so I'm wanting to run out of
the room. But my legs won't move. I am just
frozen in place. I don't know what to think, I
don't know how to react. And the storm's really getting
on us, really almost completely over the top of us now.
And we had a big dead tree in the backyard
and we had a lightning bult come down and hit
that tree and it took off a branch that's coming down.
And just as that's doing it, the lightning did this
series of like three or four flashes in a row,
you know that, And it looks like daylight for a minute,
if you've ever seen that. And as that started doing that,
I my whole world changed. Let's just say that everything
that I thought I knew about the world I lived
in was wrong. This thing turned its head to see
where that branch was coming down, and I got a
good look at it during that three or four different
hits of lightning. It looked like a wolf. The head
was huge, and the shoulders that had was sitting on
were huge. They were wide. Oh my god, I couldn't
believe it. And to think of how long that arm
had been from where it was down, even with me
had to head and still reach the top of this
tall window. Those arms had to be unbelievably long, and
the muzzle in this thing was a lot longer than
anything I'd seen, you know, in pictures and stuff of
a wolf or any kind of dog. I mean, it
was long, it was big, and with that lightning, I
got a good look at the teeth on this thing.
They had to be two and a half to three
inches long. They were sharp, they were brilliant white, and
you know, it kind of had it like gaping when
it looked up, and it was black fur. The ears
were on top of the head, straight up. They moved
independently of each other, and they were probably four to
five inches tall. The shoulders on this thing, the chest
was huge. It was muscular, you can just tell by
the way it moved. And I just couldn't believe it.
And as it started to turn around to look at
me again, my body suddenly let me break loose, and
I went running into the room, jumped on the couch
and covered my head up with a blanket, and I
shood the rest of the night. I could not understand
what had just happened. The next day, I got up
and I was getting ready to go to school, and
I thought that had to be it had to just
be a dream. I walked around to the back of
the house and look up at my window, and my
heart was kind of jumped in my chest because there
were the deepest scratches at the top of that window
and there was black paint down below. No, it was real.
It had happened. And so I went on to school
that day, just trying to keep my mind, you know,
on my training. But my cut. How could anything like
that exist? So I decided to tell my friends that
since I was so close to the end of the
school year, I was going to start going on home
and studying. But the truth was I didn't want out
at dark anymore with that, you know. And I couldn't
understand why it was at my window, And I thought,
oh no, is this what was out front? And I
yelled at it, say you get out of here. Did
I make this thing mad? Is it like thinking, Okay,
you want to challenge me, let's do it. I mean,
I have no idea why. It seems like a singling
me out. So I started coming in and I would
take a nap during the daytime, and then I would
get up and I would go in the living room
and study with the lamp. I just was not about
to be in that room after dark. And the living
room was straight across from my mom and dad's bedroom.
And after about the second night, my dad said, Okay,
this isn't working. You're keeping me awake. You need to
go back to your room. And I said, oh I can't.
He goes, why why didn't want to tell him? And
you know, maybe tease me? And I said, I just can't.
And I said and he goes, well, what about the kitchen?
And I thought, no, there you go. You know I
could do that. So I agreed to that, and I
took the little lamp from the living room put it
in there on the table because to me, I was
a long ways away from my bedroom. Now I thought
it was kind of safer, but in reality I really wasn't.
Because the back of the house was shaped like the
letter L with my bedroom one part of it and
the kitchen the next. So it only had to move
over about eight foot. You'd be looking into the kitchen
window if you were on the outside. But I didn't
take that heart in my mind, so I've felt in
pretty good. Well, this kitchen was shaped like a rectangle
and it had windows running down both sides and regular
size kitchen windows, you know. At the top. My mother
had a white thick curtain on the bottom pane, and
the open pane it was exposed. We had no blinds
or shades. We didn't need them. We were up six
foot in the air, and that was at the top.
You'd have to be eight and a half feet to
look in, so there wasn't any worry about that. She
just had a little ref on the top and it
was that way all the way down. At the other
end was an outside door. And so I'm sitting there studying,
and I'm kind of looking out at this thick curtain
and going, hey, that's like a page. I can just
you know, memorize things. And I'm going along and feeling
really good about it. And then all of a sudden,
I had a new sensation I'd never had before. The
hair stood up on the back of my neck, and
I thought, what in the world is that? And then
all of a sudden, I seemed to have an understanding
that something was looking at me through the window behind me.
I'd never had that sensation, but I knew that, I
knew it was there, and I'm just kind of froze,
not wondering, you know, I'm thinking, I don't know what
to do. And about that time, this thing growled, and
oh my god, I had never heard anything growl like that.
It was deep, it was guttural, it was canine, unbelievable,
and it literally made me breeze in place. I couldn't
even put my pencil down. I was so scared. And
it growled again, even deeper and louder. You know, I
was just like, this can't be happening, This can't exist.
But I'm hearing it. And the only way I know
how fast this thing could travel is that it didn't
stop growling. And it went down those windows, across the door,
and up to the windows till it was exactly in
front of me at that window. And you know, I'm
not looking up. I can't move, and I can't believe
how fast it traveled that How can an animal travel
that fast? And all of a sudden I got this
thought in my head, and I still think it was
an angel. It said if you look it in the eyes,
it will come into you. I didn't know that that
meant it would possess me. Was this thing a demon?
Or that it would come through the window and get me.
You know, some animals, if you look at in the
eyes when it's challenged you, it's going to attack you.
It's a show of dominance. So I was going to
take that information and not try to do anything. Well,
all of a sudden, my head's already going up and
I'm trying to stop it, and I realized I didn't
have control of my head. And inside I'm yelling no, no, no, no, no,
don't you go up. And it's going right on up,
and I'm trying to close my eyes and it just
seems like I can't get anything to work. And as
I start getting at the top of that curtain, I'm
catching a little bit of movement and then I see
two eyes and they were a yellowish green, almost neon.
I've never seen that color before or since. And they
were huge, kind of like the size of a golf ball,
you know, with a black people in there. And I'm
in shock because they're lit up. Now that's way above
the little lamp that I had on the table. That
couldn't be eyeshine. How can this thing have its eyes
lit up? And I'm trying to keep my head from
going that way, and I get just enough that you know,
I'm seeing the movement. And I realized that the the
head is taking up that entire painted glass, that's how
big it is. And all of a sudden, my body
broke loose. I jumped up so fast the chair I
was sitting in went sliding backwards and slammed to the
refrigerator and I took off and again I landed on
that couch, just scared. I couldn't believe it, you know,
this thing was there, and so I thought, no, I'm
going to go back to studying here. So I decided
to put the lamp on the floor, put a blanket
over my head, and just try to start that study
in that way. Well, my dad got onto that, you know,
a couple of nights later, and said, that's ridiculous. There's
nothing going on. I don't know what you're spooked about.
Go back to the kitchen. You'll see. And I so
wanted to believe my dad, I really did, but I
also knew I was making him really mad and I
didn't want to see him, and he was a tough guy.
So I decided to go back and try it one
more time, and I went in there first night. Nothing happened.
Second night, nothing and I started to feel more comfortable.
Third night, I'm studying and the hair goes up on
the back of my neck and I thought, uh oh.
And about that time I hear the growls, but they're
not at the back window. It started at the front window,
right in front of me. And my head started going
and I'm going, no, no, please, no, no, no, I'm
sorry if I yelled at you, I'm sorry, no, no no.
And my eyes come up and I get a look
at this thing and yes, indeed, it is a thing
that was at my bedroom window. And it is huge
and it's gigantic, and you know, I could not believe
what I was taking in. I jumped up and I
went running and I landed in between my mom and
dad in their bed seventeen years old, and I ran
and landed in between them. I like to scared my
mom half to death. She turned on her bedside lamp
and said, what are you doing? And I was shaking
so bad I could hardly talk. And I looked at
her and I said, monster outside, outside, monster, And she
was trying to joke with me a little bit, kind
of to me, and she goes, you want me to
go outside and get that big bad monster. And I
grabbed her arm and just started crying, no, no, no, no,
outside of my monster, outside monster. And my dad sits up,
turns on the lamp and he goes, is she having
a seizure? And she goes no, but she sure. He's
shaking the entire bed, and he goes Joe, Joe, Joe,
and I kind of looked at him and he said
what is going on? And I said monster, outside, monster,
and he goes, are you scared? Because anytime before he
had said it to me, you know, I would get
a little upset. And I go, no, I'm not scared.
I'm just as tough as any guy. He said that
to me in that response, and I shook my head
yes and said I am. And that surprised him. So
he put his hand on my shoulder and he said, listen,
you're okay. You're inside. Nothing's going to get to you.
You're just under stress because you know, if your finals
are here, end of the school year, you're okay. And
I so wanted to believe him, I really did, but
you know it had come back twice in there this
three times. I couldn't do it, and so I called
the guy that I had been seeing, and I asked
him if we could get together, you know, and go
have supper. I had something to talk to you about.
So you're breaking up me? And I said no, no.
So we get to the pizza Hut and we're eating
and I said, I have something to tell you, and
he said okay, and I said I think I'm being stalked.
And he goes, what's his name? And I said, no,
I think I'm being stalked by a werewolf. He starts laughing,
and I started to cry because that was my last
hope that somebody was going to understand. And he saw
the tears comeing down my face and he knew that
I didn't show a lot of emotion like that, so
he stopped me. He said, you're serious. I said, I'm
very serious. I'm terrified and I've got to study for
these but I can't do it. It's like stocking me.
It's at the windows, no matter what room I'm in.
And he said, I'll tell you what. Let's go get
your stuff. You can come to my house to study
tonight as I had a big final the next day,
you know, the big one. He had to really do
good on and he said, you know, my dog King,
There's nothing going to get to you with King, And
he wasn't kidding. I've been seeing him four or five months,
and I still had to get that dog's approval every
time when I came into his house. And then he
was fine with me, but he had to still check
me out because he took care of Daddy. Now. He
left King on a chain in the backyard because he
really didn't think anything was going on. He just thought
I was dressed out. So we came on in. We
were at his place and I've got my books in
the room, move floor, and he's sitting next to me,
you know, and messing with different things. And it gets
to be about three forty in the morning. Everything's going well.
I'm feeling good about it. He says, do you want
something to drink? And I said, yeah, I take some
orange juice. So the living room and kitchen were one big,
long room with one either end, and so the lights
that we had on the living room showed really well
into the kitchen. You have to turn a light on,
and I could see him really well, and he had
gone to the refrigerator and he was just bent down
and he was just staying there, and I thought, man,
you're having a hard time trying to decide what you're
going to drink. And all of a sudden, he goes,
come here. Now, I thought, wow, I didn't selling him
at all. So I go walking in and I literally
looked around and bent down to see what was was
terrifying him in this refrigerator, and every bit of liquid
in that refrigerator was shaking, and then I realized it's
because his hand on the door was shaking. And then
I heard a dog whining like a scared little puppy,
and I said, is that King? He said, can't be.
King would never sound like that. He said, he must
have a dog or something out there. I don't know.
It's weird that sound. And all of a sudden, I
felt the hair start up on my neck, and I thought,
now that there's no way this is happening. We are
in town. We are five miles from that farm, all
the way through town. There's no way that thing has
found me. And then the growl started. It was at
his kitchen window, and his window was probably only like
six foot at the top of it, and his eye
got big, his mouth fell open, and I said, oh
my god, it found me. It must be hunting me.
And the way I said hunting me, I guess triggered
something in him because he grabbed me by the wrist.
I weighed about one hundred and ten pounds and he
was six foot three and weighed about two ten and
he took off running and he's dragging me in tow.
And the way he started to do that brought us
right in front of that kitchen window. And he looked
over at this thing and he stopped on a dime.
I ran into him, and you know, I'm saying, you know,
what are you doing? What are you doing? Not talking
to me? He's just there, and so I duck underneath
his arm and I look and his brown eyes are
this green color i'd seen and I'm in shock. And
then I look and so was this monster's eyes. It's
the same kind of green. And I realized it's locked
in with him. And I'm really worried because I remember
the warning I got, you know, don't look it in
the eyes. It's going to come into you. And I'm thinking,
oh my god, now this is it. This is what
it's doing. But I got a really good look at it.
But there, you know, because it was looking forward and
I had light from the living room end. This thing
was black. It had like louterly looking leather looking skin
on his face. The hair on his face was shorter,
so you can kind of see that. Oh, the muzzle
was huge. The nostrils seemed like they were, you know,
a good inch and a half two inches apart. The
eyes had to be probably seven inches apart, you know. Again,
the ears were straight up, and it was growling and
looking at him, and I dripped my wrists trying to
get away from him, and that movement made it look
down at my wrist, and when it looked back up,
it started snarling, kind of you know, breaking up the nose.
I can see a dog do showing more of its teeth,
and god, they were huge. All of them were huge.
But the canines were even bigger, like a half inch
to three fourths of an inch longer, and they were
kind of bent on angle, so even when the mouth
was shut, you would have seen them. And it was drooling,
and that just spooked to me. I thought, was thinking
about what it would be like to taste us, you know,
or why, I mean, why is this thing drooling? And
it had a black tongue that reminded me of like
a drafte and it took it out and just flicked
that driol right back into its mouth. And that still
gives me the chills when I see that in my eyes.
I don't know why that does, but it does. It
makes me just chilled when they think of how smooth
it did that. And then I got the thought in
my mind at the same time he did I'm going
to kill you, because he kind of moaned out and
he took off running and he took us through the
living room, through a sitting room, through his bedroom, and
into a bathroom. I realized why he did it because
there were no windows in there. That was kind of smart.
But his house was kind of built like mine. The
back of his house was the kitchen and then the bathroom.
It only had to move over about seven of it
on the outside, and it was going to be even
with the bathroom. We were the ones that did all
the traveling inside. And we are there and he is
holding me so tight. I can almost, you know, can't
get a breath, and I'm telling him, like, you know,
you're choking me. I can't. He lets go, He says
I'm so sorry. I didn't believe you. I thought you
were just stressed out, you know. He said, this thing's
for real. I said, I told you, it's for real,
you know. And he's going, what is it? And I said,
I don't know. I don't know. I just don't know.
And we were standing in front of a sink, and
there was a bathtub to the left, and there were
glass shelves, you know, we had his deodor and his
old and all of that sitting on that. And as
I'm telling him, you know, I told you this is real,
I fill the hair start up on the back of
my neck and I'm thinking, oh god, you've got to
be kidding me. And his dog starts whining. It was
his dog that had been sounding like that, and then
he thinks, oh my god, you know, my dog's out
there with this thing. And so he goes, oh my god,
my dog King's out there. He's going, oh my god, King,
And he said it loud enough. I totally think his
dog heard it and thought Daddy's in trouble with this thing.
And it come running. It had enough chain where he
could get to the back of the house. It come running,
and you can hear him growling as he's going, this
thing had growled at us once, and you know, but
it had stopped. I guess it was focusing on King coming.
We heard it like a little war, and I thought, well,
maybe King bid it. And the fight was on and
King went from rowling to screaming. I mean it did.
It sounded like a woman screaming, a child's screaming. That's
being murdered. I never knew a dog could even make
that kind of sound. And he starts going, oh my god,
it's killing my best friend, it's killing my baby. Oh
my god. King's out there, you know, and I'm trying
to hold him. He is shaking so hard, and I'm thinking,
oh my god, why did I have him? Why did
I ask him if I could come over? Now I
have his dog being killed. How did I do that
to somebody I care about out in the world? Have
I done this to this guy? And he is just shaking,
and he's saying, pray, pray, and I'm thinking, I don't
know how to pray. Do I pray the impossible? And
this dog can kill this thing? Do I pray that
it's over quick so the dog doesn't suffer. I can't pray,
pray death and a dog that jumped this trying to
protect us. I don't know what to do. And it's
it's silent, and it's like we both know that King's
no longer with us, and he is crying so hard,
and I am telling him, I'm so sorry, I'm so sorry.
I've cost you your best friend. I'm so sorry I've
cost you your dog. And he just keeps going, King,
it killed my baby, It killed my best friend and
killed my buddy. And I'm just trying to console him,
you know, I'm thinking, this can't be happy, this can't
be real. And all of a sudden, the grouse starts
back up and it is right there with us. I
guess maybe it heard where we were. And this time
the growl is different. It is loud, it is deep,
It is full of anger and rage, and it was
so intense we could fill it in our chest. I
felt like my heart was gipping a beat, and he
grabbed his chest. You know, I was thinking, how can
anything make us sound like that? And as it was
doing that and growling in things, I noticed that the
things of this class shell, they were vibrating and falling
off into the bathtub. His old spice was kind of
like a glass bottle back then, a tean bottle. It
fell off and shattered in the bathtub, and old spice
was so thick in that bathroom that you could hardly breathe.
And to this day, if I smell that scent, I
break out in a sweat. It's associated with that moment.
And you know, and then we hear wood like wood breaking,
wood splintering, and we realized this thing is starting to
rip through the bathroom, you know, the outside bathroom while
it's coming after us. It's coming after us, and we
don't know what to do. If we go to any
other room with the window, it's going to come true.
We can't run outside, get away. It's gonna kill us.
We're just frozen to the spot. What else can you do?
And we can hear boards, you know, being broken. It's coming,
and it's just got this unbelievable rage of a growl
and it and you know, you still fell it in
your chest, and it just also kind of made you
not even able to think. It was like almost like
you had a thought and fog had a thought in fog.
It was just strange, I was affecting our body well,
we didn't know it, but the neighbor next to him
had heard kings screaming, and he thought that he was
hurting me in some way. So he called the police
department and said, you better get somebody here. Now I
think my neighbor's killing his girlfriend. And so as this
thing is tearing into that and we're looking at each other, going,
you know it killed being quick, We're probably not even
gonna last that long, we hear sirens coming from two
different directions and it gets quiet, and I'm thinking, wow,
did that's And then they stopped there, and I can't
believe it, you know, how did they stop at this house?
And we paused for a minute, and we hear bang, bang,
bang bang. You know, police department, open up. We've had
a complaint that you know, somebody might be getting hurt.
We need to see everybody in this house. He starts going.
I graduate said no, don't. He says, I have to,
and he I said, that thing's going to jump and
kill him. Any men, you can't open the door. He said,
they're going to kick the door in if I don't.
And you know, we wake up. Well, they're not getting attack.
So he goes on and I'm with him, and he
opens up the door and says, get in quick, and
they kind of give him a funny look. He almost
started to reach out to like pull one of the
officers in, and he kind of moved his arm back,
like you better not, you know, And they came in
and and you know, he shut the door real quick,
and they say, you know what's going on? And so
we start telling them and one of them said, did
you party a little hearty tonight? And he goes, We're
not a party. And look at her books. They're nursing books.
She's studying for re finals. What we're telling you is true,
and they're just kind of looking at each other, you know,
and we're both trying to talk at the same time.
And then one of the other officers that had pulled
in the alley and came out, said, guys, you better
come see this. Well, I wasn't going to be left
in the house without him. They're the ones with the guns.
So we went with him around to the back of
the house. And as we're doing that and I'm behind him,
he just drops to his knees like somebody just punched him,
and I kind of walked around him. It was the game.
I looked over and then I realized why he was
seeing what was left at King. King's right front leg
was torn off, his back left leg was torn off.
There was a hole in his torso, and his head
had been ripped off, and it was several feet back
and this white house back there had hit this dog's
blood just sprayed all over it. I don't know how
this thing got that much blood all over that, And
these guys are just looking in disbelief. And then I
over and I see the hole this thing was tearing
and it was probably like three foot by three foot,
and you know, the farthest place out that was affected.
And as we walked over there, we realized it had
already got to the point that you know, when you're
paying walls up in the side, you got the boards
and then you start putting the sheet rock. It was
to that point and those boards had started to break.
And we looked at each other and just realized that
we only had just minutes before that thing was in
tearing us up. You know, those sirens saved our lives
bay maybe two to three minutes. We just couldn't believe it.
That just had ice water running through my veins. Realizing that,
and so we had them go back in with us.
You know, I wanted to get my stuff. I wanted
them standing there with us while we were trying to
get in this car to get out of there. And
you know, the officer says, do you want to report this?
And he goes, I don't even know what to say.
And the officer says, well, I don't even know how
to write out the report. You know, this is back
in the seventies. You know, people were going to be
laughing at you and things back then if you said
something like this. And he said, well, if you're okay
with it, I'm okay with it. Not doing it because
nobody believe us anyway, And so we took off. We
drove eighteen miles to the town next to us and
for me to go in and take my finals. He
really didn't talk all the way there. And as we
got in the parking lot, you know, I said, I'll
see it a little bit, went in. I don't even
remember what was on the test. I'm surprised I passed it.
Came back out and he's just looking down. He said,
you know, I've been thinking about this. I don't think
we can see each other anymore, because every time I
see you, I'm going to think about being being killed.
And you know, I felt like, okay, it's justified to
lose my best friend today because he lost his and
it's my fault. And so, you know, he took me home.
I didn't hear from him for two to three weeks.
Nothing came around the house during those two three weeks,
but I was still sleeping on the couch, you know,
waiting for something to happen at the living room window.
I mean, I was really insecure. And he called me
and said, let's talk. So he came and picked me up,
and he said, you know, I haven't really been back
to the house. I'm afraid this thing's gonna start hunting
me now too. You know, let's leave. And so we
went to the state of Oklahoma and started to try
to start a life there, and you know, I got
pregnant and we had a little girl, two months premature
and kind of stressful, and and he told me when
she was about, you know, six seven months old, that
he couldn't be with me any longer. And so he
left and I went back, you know, to Iola, and
we did get a divorce and stuff, and so I
hadn't seen him for quite a few years, and he
had really changed. He was drinking and doing drugs, and
I just couldn't believe that he had changed that much.
And my daughter went to go see him, and he
was out with his buddies and she was watching the
movie Silver Bullet, and he came in during the scene
where this wherewith is underneath this greenhouse and it's tearing
up through the boards to get this guy, and he
absolutely lost it. He started screaming her and shaking, and
you know, and she's thinking he's just mad because she's
watching a movie and she's twelve. But he was having
a flashback of what was going on, especially with the
son of boards tearing and the growl and roar of
the tham. He was identical to what we'd heard. And
he told her, don't you ever watch anything like that?
Where was the real? If you don't me, ask your mom.
Because we had done a pinky swear that day in
the parking lot at the college. We would never tell
anybody about this, And so when she came home, she
didn't take her coat off. She said, Dad says, where
we're it's a real to ask you, and I said,
he broke the promise, and she goes, what So I
ended up telling her what had happened. I did not
tell her about being She was only twelve, and you know,
she just co cann't believe we kept that quiet on her.
And so, you know, a couple more decades ago and
he's on his deathbed and he wanted to talk to me,
and he said, you know, I'm dinosau roses of delivering things.
And the reason why was if I didn't get myself
to the point of passing out at night, I couldn't sleep.
Those green eyes were burning into my brain. It's like
they were on the inside of my eyelids. And I
remembered what that thing said, don't look at the eyes
or it's going to come into you. And I thought,
oh my god. That has affected him his entire life.
And he said, we were wrong by not telling people
about this. I want you to start talking about it.
You know, it may start affecting you. You know when
I'm gone. He said, has it bothered you? And I said,
I haven't seen it, but I have nightmares every night still,
and he said, maybe the help of the nightmares is
I Oh my god, These nightmares were horrible. They were
so vivid of it pinning me down with one hand
on the porch and just ripping my you know, abdomen
open and starting to eat my intestines and stuff while
I was still a live screaming watching it do it.
If you can imagine that level of nightmares every night. Oh,
it was awful and no relief in sight. And so
I thought, well, who do you talk about that? And
so I started kind of trying to do some studying
because I didn't even know what this thing was called.
And then I found out it was a dog man,
was what it was called. Now this thing, you know,
had a name to it, it wasn't deemed it as a
dog man. And then I got blessed and I found
Thick and this man knows so much about those, and
I started listening to the podcast and learning more about it,
and then I called him one day and he started
talking to me about it, and he, you know, it
broke his heart. I was having all these nightmares and
about the dog being killed and destroying my marriage to
destroying and you know, his life. And he said something
to me that really helped. He said, if it had
wanted to kill you. It would have your life because
it wanted to leave you alive. You don't have to
worry about being killed all the time. You don't have
to have these nightmares like that. And that really helped.
And then he had me talk with a lady that
helped me with that, and God blessed it, Kunda. He
really helped me try to get my life in a
little bit better order. And I, you know, had had
some a severe heart attack and I couldn't work, and
so I moved into a town in autun to Kansas,
and then I had problems there. I don't know, Vic,
if you want to take over at that point and
kind of say what was going on with the house
there now soon, or if you want me.
Speaker 2: To, well, if you could bring everyone up to speed
on what's going on with that house, I think that
would be better. So if you don't mind, please continue.
Speaker 1: Hey, the day I was moving in, I was in
the bathroom putting some stuff in the medicine cabinet and
there was a guy there. This house hadn't been lived
in for seven years, and I heard him break like
the sewer pipe or something underneath my feet, and so
I went walking out and I heard the son again
out in the yard and I said, I think you
broke a pipe in here, and it sounded like that.
He said, no, that's just the branches being cleared. He said,
you know, everything's okay. But he was pulling his stuff up,
throwing back to the chuck and he took off. He
didn't even put the cover back on the pipe in
the yard. My landlords lived across the street, so I
walked over and I told him, I said, I think
he broke something, and I think he took off, and
he said, no, he'll probably be back, and he went
ahead and put the cap on. Well, the guy didn't
come back, and he didn't come back. And that was
in December, so it was you know, wintertime. In March
when we started having you know, rains for spring and stuff.
I started noticing like a sewer smell in the bathroom
drain coming up in the bathtub drain and this bathroom sink,
I should say, And you know, it'd be for two
or three days, and then after everything had dried out,
it wasn't there, but it started getting a little bit worse.
And I had been living there for like a year
and a half and I was starting to have trouble breathing,
and my knees were getting so painful I could barely
walk and I was having to use a walker. Now,
I just couldn't believe my body was going down like
it was without any reason. And I had gone to
the doctor and they, you know, did blood worth They
couldn't really figure out what was going on, and it
kept getting worse and worse, and it finally got to
the point that I couldn't even be in that bedroom
next to the bathroom. The scent was so bad all
the time, even if it wasn't rainy, you could smell
it in the bathroom and you know when you flushed
the stool and stuff. He just, oh, it was awful.
And I kept telling them, you know, we got to
do something about this. And then her husband died and
so now it's just the landlady, and you know, she's
not really wanting to do anything about it. And then
my daughter moved in to help with me, because you know,
I was going downhill fast on how I could take
care of myself, and she was in that bedroom and
she had to start leaving a bedroom window open all
the time because the smell was so bad. And then
she started developing a cough, and then her niece started hurting,
and I'm thinking, now, wait a second, she's starting to
do the pattern I did in the beginning. So I
went and told this lady. I said, I think there's
something really wrong with this house, because now my daughter's
having any symptoms. Can you please have a plumber? I'm
begging you. And she wasn't very happy with me, but
I had been renting from her almost seven years, never
been late, and she told me I was best renters.
So she decided, okay. Well he goes out in the
yard and he goes, yeah, it's broke out here, and
he fixes it and he goes there you go. I said, well,
if that sound was that, then it's broken underneath the
house too, And I told him about the scent, so
he said, while, go look, And when he came back out,
he said, oh my god, you are living over a
bunch of raw sewage. It's probably three and a half
to four foot deep. It's got the broken sewer line
down in it. There is black mold, thick and probably
five inches tall going all over that. And you have
central air, which means forty percent of your air is
coming from what's underneath your house, right into your home.
You are being poisoned with black mold. And I was
in shock, and he said, I'm having to go tell
her that's all got to be taken care of. You know,
this could kill you. And so he did it, and
he came back. He said, I'm start working on it.
You know, in a couple of days. He said, you'll
have to find some place to go for about five
days because we're gonna have to get all that dug out,
get it taken care of, get that drive, put another
pipe in, rebuild everything. You're gonna to throw away your towels,
your workshpells, everything, sheets, everything, you know, as much clothing
as you can because it'll be down in the fibrus.
It's hard to get out. And so I went to
stay with a girlfriend there, and my daughter went out
of town to stay. He starts on a Monday at
ten am. The next day, at eleven thirty am, he
comes to tell me it's all done and I can
go back. And my friend goes, no, wait a second,
you told us at least five days. He goes, well,
it turned out not to be as bad as I thought.
And she said, so it's all taking care of his
dry down here. He goes, yeah, and he turns, he
walks out the door, but he turns around, he goes,
looks me right in there. He goes, I'm very very sorry.
You under standy, I'm sorry. It's like you wanted to
say something. And he left. So I went back and
we started living there, and you could still smell it.
It wasn't as much, but we could still smell it.
And then we got a heavy rain and it was
like you could smell it in the yard. It's like
he had mixed that in, you know, with the dirt
in the yard, cause he had dug a big place
outside the house there. And my daughter said, I think
he didn't take that stuff anywhere. I think he just
mixed it into the dirt. And I said, I don't know.
That's bad. It's about that time this landlord came over
and she said, I am giving you thirty days to
get out. And I said get out. She said, yep.
You had to open your big mouth and tell them
about it. And it's gonna it would have cost too
much to fix it. You got thirty days to get out.
If you don't, all your stuff's gonna be sitting on
the front lawn. Now at this point seven years, I'm
very disabled. I can't get my stuff and get out
like that. And I said, are you serious and she said, oh, yeah,
you know. And so we started trying to find a
place to go, and Vic BLUs his heart had started
to go fund me, asking you for five thousand, because
you know, I had to have somebody help me move
and help me pack. You know, I'm disable, my daughter's
not doing well. And that goal was met, and then
some thanks to all of you people again, thank you,
and I love you so much. And we found a house,
you know, in the town that was about nine miles away,
one story, had a fenced in yard. I mean, it
would be great for us, you know. And the people
had bought a house in a town and they were
going to be moving out in thirty days after their
house was ready. Well, the guy fixing up their house
ran into a bunch of problems and they were going
to be leaving for about three months. So that gave
me about two and a half weeks to try to
find some place to go. And I was desperately trying
to see anything in the three towns in that area.
And I finally found a guy who said, well, I
just bought three houses from income tax or excuse not compacts,
but passed you taxes on the property, and there's one
that would be big enough for you guys, and I
could start fixing it up and try to have it
ready in that time. I've got a team that they
could try to do that. And I was so blessed,
you know. I called Vic and said, well, I think
we're still going to be okay. We have found another house,
and so he starts doing all kinds of stuff. And
here he had me sign the lease before I even
had a chance to go in, because there was not
a rent built yet that I could go in and
see this place. And he told me, I'm putting a
lot of money in this, so I'm not going to
do this. You're not gonna take it. So I need
you to go ahead and sign the lease now. And
I started to read it, or he goes I got
to get back over there, and I thought, you know,
that's kind of silling me. Did this guy is doing
so much to help me. I shouldn't be acting like that.
I kind of felt bad that I had started to
so I signed it and three days later, he tells me,
because you know, I told him that we were going
to have a store refrigeration stuff because you guys had
blessed us, and they go fund me. And I guess
I shouldn't have said those words to him, because he
told me that he had ran out of money and
he could not afford the ramp. I would have to
build it, and you know, buy the jails. I haven't
built myself. And I'm in shock because that's staying with
the house. And I was praying. I thought, I don't
know how much that's going to cost. And I just
really thought like the Lord passed on me to call
the high school. So I called and found out that
the shop teacher did help build ramps and stuff for
people who were disabled and elderly. I got ahold of him,
and he said, oh, I grew up in the town
and I know that lady and her son is the mayor.
You know, it's such a small town. There's no police department,
there's nobody that would stop her. She would literally have
your stuff on the floor or excuse me outside. He said,
I'm going to help you build that ramp because of her.
And he got four teenagers from the school, and God
blessed them, you know, with a thousand dollars in materials.
They built a ramp that I could get in, and
so I had to hire people to come and help
me get my stuff out. We were moving out with
the flock kicking down. I only had twelve hours left
before she had people that were going to come in
there and start drinking my stuff out into the yard.
And we walked into this place. I couldn't believe it.
You know, they had left it pretty dirty, and my
daughter's won, well, I've got some friends, you know, we'll
try to get it cleaned up. But it didn't even
seem like it was that. I walked into the living
room and this place felt heavy, It felt dark, it
felt kind of menacing, and I thought, maybe it's because
I'm just so used to that house over there. I
don't know, but I looked at my daughter and I said,
I don't feel good about this house, and she said, well,
we don't have any place else to go, and I said,
I know, I know, I just have a weird feeling
about this house. And so that evening, when we clicked
on lamps, we were in shock because there were symbols
all over the walls in the living room, and you
couldn't see it during the day for some reason, but
when you clicked on lamps, they showed and they they
looked like, you know, ancient kind of symbols or something.
And one of the guys that worked for him, he
had come over to drop off some things at the house.
They were gonna thinking maybe they'd come back and finish
more of the house. And he said, oh those, yeah.
He said, did he tell you about this house where
you sign that lease? And I said no. He said, well,
this house has been a flat house for people, it's
been a drugged in and the latest thing that it
was it was for a coven of witches who also
practiced Satanism. And I said, you're kidding me, and he
goes no, He said, you know, we jerked the carpet
up out of the liver room, he said, so that
you could move easier on wooden floors. He said, that
really wasn't I don't think it. He said. There was
a pentagram spray painted into that burn marks where kindles
had been, and there was blood like something had been sacrificed.
I was like, you're kidding me, and he goes not
at all. And I looked at my daughter. She's like,
oh my god, you know, what if we got ourselves
into And I said, well, maybe nothing, you know, but
it hadn't been lived in. We were to be the
first people living there, you know, in several years. And
I realized that the windows and all the rooms were
broken out. They had put some particle board over some
of them, but it wasn't keeping out, you know, the
temperature outside. And this guy made a promise to me
that the windows would be put in and stuff before
you know, the real cold part of winter hit. So
the money I had left and they go fund me.
I spent a lot of money getting thick plastic and
putting it over all the windows, just so we could
try to have, you know, some control of temper. Sure,
this guy did not go ahead and put any windows in.
There was an upstairs to this place. He took screws
and with you know, with a power tool, he screwed
it shut and said don't ever go up there. And
we said okay. And the first night that we were here,
you know, it just felt odd and we thought maybe
it's just because it was a new place. And about
three o'clock in the morning, we heard a bang, and
I mean it sounded like a wall fell in. And
you know, I at this point I was having to
sleep in a recliner. I could no longer lay flat
in the bed, and she was on the couch next
to me. We jumped up, looking at each other, like
what fell and we went root. Nothing was moved, and
we didn't realize at the time, you know, what was
creating that sound. And she decided she had to have
a break from hall of this, so she went to
stay with a friend, you know, in a house that
was unpacked and stuff. So I was here by myself
on nine three and I got up in the middle
of the night to go to the bathroom and had
a little white on in a hall and I hear
something like it's sturrying across the floor or something, and
I'm going what, And I see leaves because you know,
it's of September, and it's they're blowing in and I
go what. And I look up and I realized the
outside door is wide open, and the storm door that
they had on there was still had the cinder block
they put it back to bringing stuff in. And I'm
looking at the neighbor's house. This terrified me. I thought
somebody had walked in and maybe they were in my
daughter's room. And minute you walk in the front door,
immediately to the left, it's her rooms. I was scared
to death. I pushed that open, you know, and nobody there.
So I shut that door and locked it and kind
of stayed awake the rest of that night, just kind
of thinking, well, maybe she didn't get the door secure,
you know, maybe it was just a fluke. Well that
wasn't the case, because it seemed like after that, at
three o'clock in the morning, you can almost expect something
to happen. The dining room light would come on by itself,
you would hear those bangs. And then we started hearing
somebody like stomping in big heavy boots across the ceiling
upstairs where nothing was supposed to be, or dragging metal,
heavy metal objects or something up there, you know, across it.
But yeah, there's not supposed to be anything up there.
You know. We're looking at each other, like, my god,
we went from a house with mold to a haunted house.
This thing has something in it. And I told her,
I said, you know, with having a van, which it
may be something really evil. Well, when we washed off
the symbols off the walls in the living room, we
messed up because it was like that was kind of
holding it back a little bit, and now it was
going in old speed ahead. I had some ladies come
over to take oil and annoyt windows and doors, seeing
if that would help. They were trying to tell it
to get out of here. We were in her bedroom
and we felt the floor. It felt like it sounded
like it dropped three feet underneath our you know, our shoes,
and it hadn't moved it off, but we all felt
that they took off out of this house and left me.
It started getting you know, more intense. We would hear
something in the kitchen. We'd go in there and pots
and pants silverwhere had flown you know, six to seven
feet across the room in the middle of the floor
in the pantry. Cams would come flying out of the pantry,
paper towels on top of one of the cabinets we
had in there. We'd come flying clear off into the kitchen.
I mean, it was just see how things seemed to move.
Speaker 2: Uh, oh, Joe, you're cutting out?
Speaker 1: Am I really okay? Now? Sorry?
Speaker 2: You're back now, Thank goodness.
Speaker 1: Hey in front of the TV. I had five wind
blocks to be given to me and it was j
as the heart or end given to me. When I
was the director of nurses. Those started getting turned sideways.
It was crazy. You could straighten them up, go back
by an hour later and they were turned again, or
they would fly off. It seemed like it was getting stronger.
The more afraid we got, the more it seemed to
energize it. We started fighting all the time, so we
never did over nothing, and you know, it was it
was just crazy. She would just explode for no reason,
and I seemed to have no patience with her, and
it was almost like this thing was creating that. So
we would fight and energize it. It was just nuts.
And it started really focusing on my daughter, and it's
started being in her room. She'd wake up and she
had a little light on and she would look up
and it would something like black and tall would be,
you know, standing at the bottom of her bed staring
at her. And so she would turn on a lamp
and it wouldn't be there. And she'd run in here
telling me about it, and I said, well, if you
want to sleep in here. She said, well, my ved'sel
comfortable this couch, isn't She said, you know, maybe I
was dreaming, and I was hoping she was, but I
wasn't too sure about it. And then she had a
friend come over to spend the night and this person
got shoved off her bed, got them by the shoulder
and pushed them off the bed. You know, they were
wanting to go back home. Terrified. She couldn't believe that
was happening. One time I was gone to the doctor
and she had a friend there and they had her
bedroom door shut, and they see feet walking by, you know,
big black shoes or something walking by, and they knew
I was gone. They were afraid to open the door
to see if somebody had come in. The front door.
Front door was still locked. I'm trying to think. This
thing got so heavy upstairs that the ceiling fan would
move when it went past it, so you knew it
had weight to it, And how was it getting up there.
We got afraid that maybe somebody had broken in through
these windows up there that were broken, and maybe we
had somebody living up there, and we didn't know what
was going on. I'm complaining to this guy and he's
acting like I'm crazy, and and you know, we're getting
into winter time and he's not put any windows in
at all. And you know, I, even with the plastic,
we were so cold, and I had turned on the
heater up really high, and I was paying five hundred
and fifty dollars and utility bill, and I couldn't get
us over sixty two degrees in here to try to
stay warm. You know, we were like wearing coats and
everything all the time in our own home, just trying
to stay warm. It was crazy what had been done
to us. And he had taken out the broken kitchen
cabinets and he'd put in these cabins. He claims was
from a house, but it had to be from Mike
a fifth wheeler because the kitchen sink is only about
five inches deep, and the drawers you pull out, they
are so you know, shallow and small. I can't even
put my silverware divider in it. I can't even lay
a bottle of water sideways in it, you know. And
so he was telling us we just have to stack
your postive pants up somewhere. I guess I was like,
are you serious? You know you told me you were
gonna have this ready for somebody. It was disabled and
he just wasn't doing anything, and one of his guys
came by to get some tools, and I said, look,
I'm going to get pneumonia with this. I already have
compromise lungs from all the black pole damage that they
discovered with test. You know, I can't be in front
of these windows. It's cold. And he could see what
the plastic the window next to me was blow in
the curtain, and he got feeling guilty. He said, I
will take that window and I'll go put glass in
it and I'll be back. And so for two and
a half hours I sat here with blankets wrapped around me,
just freezing. It was cold and raining that day. And
he puts it in and he comes in and he says,
you know, this floor was down about three foot on
this side, and we jacked it up. And he said,
somehow when we did that, we've twisted the foundation or something.
He said, this window. I had to take some putty,
you know, and things and put it in. He said,
don't ever try to touch that window to clean it.
If you do, it's going to fall out and break
it out on the ground like are you kidding me?
He goes, no, you know, and I'm thinking, well, that's
not going to help. And sure enough, you know, the
curtain still blows. It got so cold that it was
freezing for us to even try to take a shower.
We found somebody had a little heater, you know, they
gave us. I mean, you just went and believe it.
And the whole time, this thing is getting stronger and stronger.
It started bruising my daughter up. It started affecting my health.
She was gone one day and I was in the
bathroom and just finished brushing my teeth and came back
to sit down on my rekiner and I had I
felt like water run and I wiped my face and
it was bright red blood and I thought I'm having
a nosebleed, and it was big drops, and then all
of a sudden, it started dropping out of the other
side too, and then they started almost pouring, and then
I could fill it leading down the back of my throat.
I had a hard time calling nine to one one
and having air to breathe and try to tell them
to get here. It was bleeding so severe. They got here,
they could not stop it. They took me to the
emergency room. They tried for four and a half hours
to get this bleeding stopped, and I was choking on
it was unbelievable. They had to use these things called
rhino rockets, and they looked like tampons, and they wouldn't
even have that thing in all the way and it
would be full of blood and they'd have to pull
it out and try to do it again. They finally
ended up getting some kind of chemical that's one thousand
dollars per bottle, and there's like a spray and then
there's one that you could put in the IV, and
they were brand new to that. The nurse didn't pay attention.
She got the one for the IV, not the spray,
and so she went to squirt that up into my
nose and it was like fire going in and down
the back, and it burnt areas open on the back
of my throat and they started bleeding. This stuff was
so severe that when I jerked my head back from
her from the pain of the fire, it splashed onto
the glass of my or the lens on my glasses
and burked it. It literally burnt rings in it. That's
how severe the thing was that was going in my body,
and they finally got slowed down to where it was
just bleeding in my throat, you know. They couldn't put
it and had a pressure pack on that. They did
some lab and I had lost over a pint of blood,
you know, without bleeding like that. And I came home
and it bled for another three days. I had to
keep taking SIPs of water just to try to be
able to. I felt like have an airway. And I
started trying to have soup on day two or three
because if I tried to take a bite of something
into no matter how soft it was, my right side
of my nose would start trying to bleed again. Finally,
when I started to do this soup that day, I
kind of coughed and choked, and I felt like something
move a big plot. I reach in my mouth and
I hope this isn't too much information, but I pulled
out a blood clot that filled the palm in my
hand and I kept pulling it out. My daughter couldn't
believe it. It was eight inches long. That had to be
It's just like down my esophagus clotted and they if
I hadn't kept zipp the water around the clock. Practically
I think it would have clotted it off. It killed me.
No reason why I had that bleeding none. I had
been sent clear to Wichitab with my heart, with things
that they couldn't believe was going on, couldn't find a
reason for it. I had been in the hospitals more
times since I moved in here in September than I
had the last three years put together. Now it seems
like it's really focusing on my daughter more, she told me.
Got up one morning and she said, it jumped up
on the foot of the bed. I felt this thing
walk up to the head of my bed. And she
hadn't been feeling well. She was really, really tired and
weak to sleep in all the time. I think it
was just taking her energy. And she said, you know,
in the name of she doesn't see me alone, just
kind of swung at it a little bit and it
must have bent over because she could feel like the
hot air on her cheeks. So she said it again louder,
you know, and started to get up and try to
come and hear. And she looked up and she had
a perfume bottle on her dresser, and it threw it
at her. It literally went six foot coming right out her.
She has couldn't believe that. She come running in telling me,
you know, and I was in shock that he could
do that. And then the next time it jumped from
the floor right out next to her shoulders. It was
already on. It didn't even take time to walk up.
It started pulling her hair. It started giving her nightmares
like it was holding her head underwater till she was
almost dead, and it'd pull her head up and let
her get air, and then it'd take her back under again.
She couldn't get out of the nightmare, and she would
try to scream mom, and it was like it had
a hand over her mouth. It was muffled. She couldn't
do that. And then she would wake up and realize
that it had her face down on the pillow. She
was fighting for air. I mean, it was scary. Then
she started coming up with scratches, you know, three scratches.
Have been told that's demonic bruises. Right now, my poor
is covered in bruises on her breast, on her arms,
down her legs, and they are almost like in between
a bruce and a some kind of burn. I've never
seen anything like it before. It's a strange color of
a kind of a purplish red and they're raised. You know,
Brucees aren't raised. These are. She's got low back pain
all the time. Her knees are killing her, and you know.
And then she decided she was going to pull her
mattress in here in the living room, right next to me,
because she said, I can't fight it on my own.
And we have been watching things on TV like how
do you fight these things? And the very first night
I heard her trying to say mom, and she was muffled,
and I turned on a light and I could not
believe that my daughter was being attacked. Her head was
bent back in this most bizarre way, and she couldn't
nothing over her face, but it sounded like she had
a handle where she could not talk out. And I
was screaming, in the name of Jesus, leave my daughter alone,
get off my daughter. And I'm so crippled. I can't
go jump on the mattress and try to fight it anyway.
I was trying to do it that way, and uh,
it would let her go, just scared to have death.
And maybe twenty minutes later it jump her again. I
believe we're doing that all night long, and then it
decided that it was going to bite her. But you know,
it wasn't like a bite mark you think of like somebody.
It was so strange. It was almost like a vampire bite.
I know that sounds stupid. It'd be about the size
apart from your canines. She had two puncher holes in
her neck and it had It wasn't like a bite
of something bug or anything. Because there was blood on
her pillow case, in her sheets. It was bleeding. And
then she uh, it bit on the inside of her
thigh like where the famar ruud be had bleeding there.
It bit on her arm like on the wrist. I mean,
that's insane that it's biting her like it's like it's
some kind of vampire or something, you know, and she's
getting sick and weak and dizzy, and oh, it was awful.
And then it kept jerking her hair out and just
torming her. And then she started having these weird dreams,
you know, of being sexually assaulted. And we had talked
to one paranormal group, but their clorover in another state,
and they said, it sounds like you're fighting an equipus
and they they will rape her at night and so
she was just terrified. They told her to set up
a camera in her room. She set up a little
camera and you know, it started recording and I was
going to watch it the next day. She was kind
of afraid of that. And at one point in the
night she looked right at the camera and I swear
to you, that was not her face. Her face had
distorted into something that looks so evil, and it smiled
and said, I don't like the camera and it didn't
even sound like her. That just scared her and me
so bad. She says, I'm not running that camera. I
don't want to know. And she told them and they said, yeah,
this is getting worse. You know, it's getting stronger. It
turns our lights on at three o'clock in the morning.
You might as well hang on because something's going to happen.
It has. Two weeks ago, she was in her room.
She felt it and she yelled, you know, in the
name of Jesus, get out here, let me alone. It
threw her bible at her and it was on her dresser,
so again six foot her bible. And she was so
mad that it touched her bible. She was screaming, you know,
how dare you touch God's word? How dare you do
that to God's word? Her TV started going crazy, her
lights started flickering, the sewing light and the lamp she
had in they were strobing like in Unison. Nothing else
in the house was stroving. It wasn't the electricity. It
was in her room. It was doing it, you know,
and it ran her out of her room again. The
front door opens by itself. You can have it locked
and you will hear it. Disengage the lock and turn
it and open it. It moves, you know, the dining
room chairs get moved out. It will throw things, you
know in the bathroom off and just destroy the bathroom.
You have to keep picking stuff up. You know. The
sounds are crazy. We've heard laughter, We've heard it sounds
like people talking. We've heard growling. The other night we
were here watch a TV and she said, Mom, turn
off the sound. Hurry here. I clicked the sound off.
And you know, if somebody's running a line where in
the hit gravel or something, how that would sound hitting
your house. Of course, it's the middle of the night,
nobody's mowing. But it sounded like that right across those
three windows at the end where I sit and it
was really focusing right by the window that I sit
at just last that, and I was thinking, oh, man,
it's going to push that window in on me because
that guy said he can't be touched, and it's going
to get me all cut up, you know. So I
had a fear of that going on. I'm trying to
think of what else. Let's see, it's broke dishes, you know,
they've fallen off. It's dump trash cans over and I
have a skill worker. It comes in to help me
with things because I'm so disabled now that I can't
do housework. And he was in putting stuff up in
my bedroom and something brushed past him scared him, so
he just grabbed his cellphone and just took a picture
and he comes walking into me. He said, my god,
look at this picture. And it looked like a man,
a woman and a child holding hands. They were gray
and black, and they were levitated about three feet off
the floor, staring at him. He didn't want to come
back and help me anymore. I have called churches, I
begged them to come, pray, nobody will come. I've tried
calling paranormal groups anywhere close to me. They won't come
just the one in Wisconsin. And then we found out
he's just doing a case study. You know, he doesn't
know anybody in Kansas that can help us. You know,
here we are, we've had black mold, and now we're
into this house that's freezing old. The city came to
do an inspection on it because I called him at
one point and said, you know, I don't even think
this was Liverpool, and you know, my health is terrible.
So he comes in and does it round with this
guy and he's time, Oh yeah, I'm have those windows
in before it it's cold. I'm gonna go ahead and
put you know, uh foundation is going to have some
insulation put in it. You know, I have it all
fixed up. Never did any of it. And then I
found out later he's best friends with that city commissioner.
They just did it me up. It's just been a
nightmare and I can't believe that we're going through this
after the dogman thing and the black mold and now this,
and so you know, I called Vic. It was talk
to him about this because he's always been my hero
and helped and uh, you know, I asked him if
he knew of anybody, you know, and he said, well,
we'll get looking. And he sent me a site and
I called them and they would have to be coming
from Kansas City'd be about two and a half hour drive.
They told me there'd be a team of five. It's
three thousand dollars for them to just get here and
then all their materials stuff on top of that. I
can't afford that, you know. And I told and he said, yeah,
we'll find somebody else. You know that. That's unbelievable they
could charge something like that when you're in the middle
of a you know, a crisis situation. Vic, can you
think of anything that I've left out?
Speaker 2: Well, I'm not sure if you mentioned I think I
heard you'd mentioned the fact that you contacted the Catholic
Church and they were of no help, which is just horrible.
That's what they're there for, supposedly, but don't get me
started on that. But what we need. Oh I'm sorry,
Please continue.
Speaker 1: He said no. He said, well, first of all, are
you Catholic? And I said no, sir, but you know,
I've seen a lot of things, and you know where
the Catholic Church does come in. He goes, yeah, well
that's the movies we don't do that. You'll have to
find somebody else and hung up on me, And that
really hurt me. Wow, because I really helped me. And
I called other churches, other pastors that any return my
call when I told him what it was regarding. You know,
there's just doesn't seem to be anybody that cares. And
I just can't take it anymore. I can't take it.
You know, I've been through so much. I just want
before I die, I just want so part of my
life that is peaceful and you're happier living it. This
is crazy that this is happening to us. I just
can't believe it. I just can't believe it. My daughter,
my god, she's just getting tortured every day and I
can't stop it. It's awful to hear her man, you know,
And now she thinks and I asked her if I
could say that she thinks it raped her the other night. Well,
she's very sore and she's bruised in that area really bad. Vick.
We have to do something. And you know, I talked
to him and I said, you know, I think there's
something in this house that you had left me. And
I said, could we please just move out. He said,
oh yeah, but your contract says, you know, if you
move out, you have to pay me the six hundred
and twenty five per month rent there to the day
that the will of your least to be up. So
if you got that kind of money to throw down,
go for it. And you know, and I had to
pay twelve hundred down for a deposit thanks to you guys,
I had it. But for what a house that that's
not even herd able to be lived in, you know,
And I still have broken windows, and a lady that
is two years younger than me rents from him. I
found out her house is all broken up. Her husband's
in a wheelchair, and she's been cutting cardboard boxes and
putting over the holes and trying to you know, seal
them in with duct tape until it rains and then
she has to do it again. That's awful, Vic, that's
awful that he's doing that. And he told me that
he prefers to rent to older women, you know, that
are disabled, because I always pay their rent on time,
but they're nice and they don't to your homes. And
now I think it's because he knows he can run
over us.
Speaker 2: Oh I'm sure that's why he does it. I don't
doubt that whatsoever. But what he's doing is so illegal
it's not even funny. Everyone listening here is exactly what
I hope to accomplish from tonight's show. I want to
accomplish three things. Number One, the best option would be
if there's anyone in Joe's area who would have an apartment,
a first floor apartment, or a house that she could rent.
If you could send me an email at contact at
Dogman Encounters dot com so I could put you into
touch with Joe so she could at least talk with
you about that option to see where the two of
you would be at. If that is an option, that
would be great. Number Two, if you're a real estate
attorney who operates in Kansas, I'm sure you're probably doing
backflips right now listening to all these things that Joe
has been made to bear with this new home. It's
not like it was enough with the original home, but
for I'd have to move into this home and have
all these problems to deal with now, this new home's
a lot worse than the last one. So if any
like I said, if any real estate attorneys are listening
to Tonight's Shoe who operate out of Kansas who'd be
willing to help counsel Joe. I'm sure this would be
an open and shut case if there ever was one.
She could sue the pants off of this slum lord.
That's really all he is. He doesn't have a foot
to stand on. If you could contact me again, contact
it Dogmint Encounters dot com. I would be more than
happy to put you into contact with Joe so you
could please help her with this. Number Three, are there
any exorcists listening to Tonight's Joe who operate in Kansas
who would be willing to help Joe. It's a possibility
that if she relocates that she might be followed by
this entity. Of course, hopefully that's not going to happen.
But if there is an exorcist listening who could just
head off this problem at the past, so that isn't
even a threat. So the problem is just gone, It's
dealt with properly, and it's gone again. Contact at Dogmanencounters
dot com. Please reach out to me, let me know
so I can put you into contact with Joe. I
can't tell you how grateful I'd be if you could
do that, and also, of course Joe would be as well.
So if we could accomplish those things, I'd be doing backflips.
I'd be so happy because no one should be made
to bear any of these problems that Joe is dealing with.
It's just ridiculous. Like she said moments ago, she just
wants to live in peace. Is that asking too much?
Not at all? Not at all. So if you can
help Joe by all means, please, like I said, contact
at Dogmanencounters dot com. Please reach out to me and
let me know so I can put you into contact
with her. Can't tell you how much I'd appreciate any
help you can offer, and also so that everyone listening
knows if you can't help in one of the three
ways I just laid out. The GoFundMe page for Joe
is still active. It's in the description for tonight's show.
Any help you could give her, any financial assistance, would
definitely be appreciated. You've already done so much. I mean,
it's just I can't say enough about all the help
you've given her. But she wasn't expecting to have to
deal with all these issues as well. Windows that are
filled with plastic or covered with plastic all these other issues.
So Joe, Yeah, we're gonna try to get you more
help even to deal with these issues. I mean, I
just I don't know what to say.
Speaker 1: Sure that go fundy page is still that pic, because
I you know, nothing's been through there in a long time.
Speaker 2: It is still up and the link for it, like
I said, is on the description for tonight's show. So,
whether you're listening to tonight's show via YouTube, or if
you're listening via podcast, if you're using a podcast app,
which more people listen that way than via YouTube. Either way,
if you go to the description for the show for
tonight's show, you'll find a link to Joe's go Fundme page.
So one way or the other, we're going to try
and get you some help, Joe, because, like I said,
you should not have to deal with this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, to tell you this thing likes to do to
me is I have my walker has a seat, you know,
because I can't walk very far, and I have it
right in front of my recliner, and it likes to
flip the locks off and drive it off away from me,
you know, if my daughter's gone and then I have
to try to take a chance of falling to try
to get to where it goes. The first time it
did it, she and I were in here in shock,
and it literally went, you know, seven or eight feet forward,
and then it made a right turn and went all
the way across this living room and in through a
doorway into a bedroom. I couldn't believe my eyes. It
literally left me. And it's done it quite a few times,
you know, Like you said, I got to get out
of here, but I don't want this thing following me.
And you know, I don't have money to move or anything.
Is you know by the time I pay and maybe
that does not go a lot of money to somebody
for utilities, but it is when I just have a
disability check and that's it, you know, just's trying to
stay warm and not get pneumonia. And oh, it's just
been crazy this. I just can't believe this place exists.
And the floors are so bad. You have to have
shoes on, even if socks. My daughter we had to
get so many splinters out of her feet. You know,
you have to wear shoes all the time. The floors
are so terrible here. I mean, I can just tell
you more and more about this you just wouldn't belay
the condition of this place. Wow, it's awful.
Speaker 2: That is horrible, It really is. I'll say it again.
Any attorneys, any real estate attorneys operating in Kansas, who'd
be interested in helping Joe out, helping her, counsel her,
you name it. Contact at Dogmanancounters dot com. Anyone who
is an exorcist who can go into her house and
drive this entity out, who'd be interested in helping Joe.
Contact at Dogmanancounters dot com. Please let me know and
I'll connect you with Joe. And lastly, like I said,
if you have a house that you'd be interested in
renting her, If you have an apartment, a first floor
apartment that you'd be willing to rent her to help
her get out of this home, that would be really appreciated.
Contact at Dogmanencounters dot com. So as far as getting
people to help you drive this entity out, I know
a lot of people who deal with this sort of thing,
But when you're dealing with an entity like that, it's
vitally important that you go about this sort of thing
the right way to avoid making the problem worse. So
that's why I'm calling out for an exorcist, anyone who's
really really experienced when it comes to dealing with these
things the right way, so that you don't have those
problems that you'll have if someone with less knowledge tries
to come in and they don't go about this the
right way. So I just wanted to make sure you
understood why I was asking for an exorcist to do
that far so right.
Speaker 1: I had one guy come in and he said I
can do I can take care of this, and I said,
are you sure? Oh? Yes. So he stands him on
my livery and floor and starts ordering it to get out,
you know, and things, and he said, you know, don't
make me get rough with you. And we had a
terrible night that night. That thing tormented us all night,
but it also went to his house and it tormented
him all night too. It was just kind of like, yeah,
let's see what you can do. So you're right, it
needs to be somebody that's not going to make it
worse on us, you know. And I'm actually, to be honest,
I'm kind of scared for tonight. After we've talked about
this and we've asked, you know, for somebody to help us.
Speaker 2: I know it's listening, so that you know, Joe, when
you brought me up to speed about what was going
on with this entity, you didn't know it, but I
said a prayer. I said a prayer that night, just
praying that it would leave you alone, you wouldn't have
any trouble. And you told me after I checked back
with you, that you didn't have any trouble that night.
I've said multiple prayers for you, and you're welcome. If
anyone listening, please say a prayer for Joe. She can't
get too much help. There's no there's no such thing
as they're getting too much help with this. So if
we all say prayers for Joe, it can only help.
It really can.
Speaker 1: Maybe my daughter Orcharder, you know. I mean, the physical
torture is insane. She can't even take a deep breath.
It feels like it's broken some of her ribs. You know,
she's walking around with an ace wrap around her ribs
thick because it's made her so sore from I mean,
it isn't this insane. I mean it's awful, absolutely awful.
I mean, I can't. She walked up while to go
and said, look at me, I look like I have
some kind of clotting disorder, because I mean, the bruises
are getting to be so many all over her back,
in her arms, and her legs and her abdomens and breasts.
This is crazy. It's absolutely crazy. She's her hair is
starting to fall up. Some of it's from stress, but
it's jerking her hair. I mean, this thing can physically
do it. I can't believe it can throw things that,
you know, as heavy as it does. Man, is that's
something it goes. That's an actual demon, isn't it. When
it can do that to that degree.
Speaker 2: I'm not really sure. I wouldn't be the person to
ask that. All I could do is a guess. But
regardless of what it is, that obviously goes without saying
that is not good. So I'm really hoping that that
people reach out who can help you with these problems.
I really am. I'll keep you updated. As soon as
anyone reaches out to me who can't help you know,
I'll be in touch with you right away.
Speaker 1: So thank you and thank you guys so much for
being such a loving group of people. You know, I
can't say thank you enough to you guys too. You've
just shown such love and capascure for me and my
daughter in the past, and just knowing you guys are
going to be you know, sit and see if you
can find somebody extrases like you said, or something that
can help me maybe get away from this slum lord.
This is awful, you know. And somebody said, well that's
what you get for sign the least and not getting in.
He didn't give me a choice that day, you know.
And you know you're stustling to get thrown out on
wand in ten days you sign, you know, because you've
got to have somewhere to go. Oh ugh, boy Amy
like an idiot, you know. I just can't believe that
this is how he has left us in this place.
The bathroom, it's not finished at all, you know. It
just it's unbelievable. The backspots behind the kitchen sink, nothing
down there. There's like old wallpaper stuff where they move
the old you know, tabinets out just hanging there. It's awful,
absolutely awful. I asked for lights in the kitchen. He
brought me a little hanging light but over the stove.
So dark in there you couldn't even see how to
cook nothing. He just acted like we were just bothering
him after he you know, we were here and it's not.
It doesn't look like it's going to get any better.
I've got to get us out of here. We will
melt down. If today was any kind of hint, you know,
eighty two degrees here and I was so hot I
almost couldn't stand to take a breath. So the heat
the call was bad. That he's going to be just
as bad coming through these these open windows just unreal.
Speaker 2: I sure hope the help comes sooner than when that
heat sets in. I've got a high herps I really do.
If you can help Joe, please let me know.
Speaker 1: Thank you guys, Thank you vic.
Speaker 2: Oh, you're welcome. You are welcome. Like I told you,
as soon as anyone reaches out to me, I'll be
sure to let you know right away. You won't have
to wait on that. So yeah, if you can help her,
like I said, I can't say it enough, please let
me know. I'd really appreciate, and of course Joe would too.
But having said that, do you have any clothes and
comments you want to put out there for us?
Speaker 1: Joe? I just wanted to thank you guys, you know,
for helping with this and just please keep us in prayer,
and I just pray that God blesses all of you
tenfold back, you know, for everything you do to help.
And I am located in the southeast part of Kansas.
I am like forty five minutes through the Missouri line
and like an hour and ten minutes from the Oklahoma line.
So that Jenna tells you, like, if there's an area
for an attorney or something in that area, is where
I'm located. If that helps maybe kind of narrow it
down a little bit. So thank you guys. God bless
each and every one of you. I love you. Thank
you for being you know, my dog band family. Thank you, Vick.
Speaker 2: You're welcome. All I can say is God bless you, Joe,
and we'll get you some help, hopefully sooner rather than later.
But we'll get you some help.
Speaker 1: We will believe that. You know, you guys have showed
me that the world's still full of really good people.
So thank you.
Speaker 2: Oh you're welcome. We just want the best for you,
we really do. But thanks again so much for listening. Everyone.
Like I said, if you can help Joe, please do,
please let me know contact at Dogman Encounters dot com
so we can get all these issues resolved. This is
just horrible, okay, Joe. Well you having said that, try
to have a good night. Like I said, I'll be
saying a prayer for you. Who knows how many people
out there listening are going to be saying prayers for you.
I hope that makes a really big difference and moves
to the needle until you can get some really good
helping there.
Speaker 1: And it does. I'm looking forward to us getting so
much needed rest because you know, like last night I
was telling you, I woke up about two thirty in
the morning and just horrible pressure in my chest like
something was standing. My blood pressure was one sixty eight
over ninety six art right was one twenty two. This
thing just tries to mess with my health, you know,
because I try to stand in between it and my daughter.
Am I saying to the name of Jusel Sleever alone
and I think it's thinking, you know, it's going to
kill me. It's just got her and we're not going
to let that happen.
Speaker 2: Well, so thank you, You're welcome help us on the
way it is. Thanks again for updating everyone on what's
going on, Joe, And like I said, try to have
a good night, and God bless you.
Speaker 1: Bless all of you. Thank you, good night, You're welcome.
Speaker 2: Good night. That's another episode in the books. Everyone, like
I've said, said several times, thanks again so much for listening.
We really appreciate it. I'll try to keep everyone updated
on Joe's situation so you don't have to wonder how
things are coming along. But I can't say it enough.
If you can help her, please do. But having said that,
thanks again so much for listening in have a great night.