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Speaker 2: Hey thirty viney five KRC DE talk station Friday EE
Speaker 2: it is that time of week I always look forward to.
Speaker 2: I heard me the aviation expert Jay Ratlo joins the
Speaker 2: program and talk aviation issues. Of course, that's his area
Speaker 2: of expertise that in stock trading. Nice couple of days
Speaker 2: you had there. He always lets me know a lot
Speaker 2: much he makes, which cracks me up. You doing a
Speaker 2: good job, Jay, Well.
Speaker 4: Just it's patience that I teach my students. If you
Speaker 4: can just be patient, the opportunities are there. And you
Speaker 4: know if my students sometimes will send me an email, Jay,
Speaker 4: only made six percent here, and they're ticked, and I'm like,
Speaker 4: what you would take to make six percent using anything else?
Speaker 4: Anywhere else? Yeah, sometimes when your expectations are high, you
Speaker 4: have you know, a little bit you it's like you
Speaker 4: you know, you've got high expectations of yourself, and you know,
Speaker 4: anything less than that you don't find totally satisfactory.
Speaker 5: I spend a lot of.
Speaker 4: Time reminding my students that, you know, when you're doing
Speaker 4: what other people consider impossible. Yeah, I appreciate every win
Speaker 4: because those smaller.
Speaker 5: Gains that up.
Speaker 2: Good point, Jay, good point. And I always appreciate your
Speaker 2: optimism too. Let us start, if you don't mind what's
Speaker 2: going out order here? Because the Air India crash has
Speaker 2: got all the rage. We had this initial report that
Speaker 2: suggests the one of the two pilots turned the fuel
Speaker 2: switches off. There are switches in the airplane which allow
Speaker 2: you to cut the fuel to the engines. Now you
Speaker 2: may want to explain the reason why those even exist,
Speaker 2: but it's I guess, fairly well confirmed that the flight
Speaker 2: data recorder indicates that those switches were turned off shortly
Speaker 2: after takeoff. One of the pilots asked the other one
Speaker 2: why he did that, and he claimed he did not
Speaker 2: do that. There was an effort to turn the switches
Speaker 2: back on, but by then it was too late. What
Speaker 2: this I mean, it's sounding intentional, Jay, And this wouldn't
Speaker 2: be the first intentional murder slash suicide that's happened on
Speaker 2: air aircraft before.
Speaker 5: It would not be.
Speaker 4: And obviously we're talking about the initial report that was
Speaker 4: just a few weeks after the accident itself, and the
Speaker 4: final report is a good twelve months or so down
Speaker 4: the road. But the fuel control switches, there are times
Speaker 4: when you do need to cut the fuel flow to
Speaker 4: a specific engine if you're having problems with it, and
Speaker 4: there's two switches, and there's spring controlled spring loaded, I
Speaker 4: guess is a better way to phrase it. And you
Speaker 4: just grab it and you pull it straight out and
Speaker 4: then over a little thing in the middle and then
Speaker 4: drop it back into place again with the assistance of
Speaker 4: the spring.
Speaker 1: So you can't bump it off.
Speaker 2: I mean, the point is, yeah, it requires a specific
Speaker 2: mechanical action that pulling out component.
Speaker 4: Right, and there's two black boxes. The flight data recorder
Speaker 4: is what investigators were able to glean the information from.
Speaker 4: That said, shortly after rotation, in other words, just as
Speaker 4: the wheels left the runway is when they were put
Speaker 4: into the off position, and you can hear that on
Speaker 4: the cockpit voice recorder, which is just not the voices,
Speaker 4: but you could hear the click of each one of
Speaker 4: those being put in are repositioned one after the other,
Speaker 4: and because of the location, they would be something you
Speaker 4: would do one at a time. Left to right is
Speaker 4: typically how the flight crew would do it, but hero
Speaker 4: is a situation where you don't know why it took place. Now,
Speaker 4: a lot of times, as a matter of procedure, if
Speaker 4: you're flying the airplane, when you get to the gate,
Speaker 4: one of the last things you'll do is cut.
Speaker 5: The fuel to the engines.
Speaker 4: It's just a precautionary measure. Stop the float to the
Speaker 4: aircraft engines, just part of the protocol. There might be
Speaker 4: times in flight where you've got a problem with an
Speaker 4: engine and you need to cut one or even both
Speaker 4: off at a specific time, but Brian, you never do
Speaker 4: it right after takeoffs.
Speaker 5: And they were in the.
Speaker 4: Off position reportedly from this initial report for about ten
Speaker 4: seconds before they were put back. One of the engines
Speaker 4: started to respond, but sixty second flight they didn't have
Speaker 4: nearly enough time. But the Wall Street Journal report that
Speaker 4: the pilot that apparently did it is considered to be
Speaker 4: the captain. Now, I know a lot of times the
Speaker 4: thought was, okay, could it have been this junior first officer,
Speaker 4: But you know, the junior first officer was one that
Speaker 4: was flying the airplane.
Speaker 5: His hands were full.
Speaker 4: You've got the captain that was monitoring, because the pilot
Speaker 4: in command at that point in time of the aircraft
Speaker 4: was the first officer, and apparently it was him that
Speaker 4: looked to the captain and said, why do you turn
Speaker 4: those those offs, to which he responded he did not. Now,
Speaker 4: could it be something where they he did something where
Speaker 4: he was thinking something else. Typically not because when that
Speaker 4: procedure happens, it's a it's a it's a process where
Speaker 4: you say you're about to do it, the other pilot, uh,
Speaker 4: you know, confirms, and then the action is done, the
Speaker 4: fingers put on the the switch and again it's communicated,
Speaker 4: you know, cutting power to engine two done. It's a
Speaker 4: back and forth thing where you don't have one pilot
Speaker 4: acting on their own. It's a team effort in everything.
Speaker 4: So sadly, this latest revelation, the one from the initial report,
Speaker 4: could suggest that we could go through this entire year
Speaker 4: long investigation and not really have a good idea of
Speaker 4: why it happened. Yeah, but we know what took place,
Speaker 4: but the why aspect of it not. Now, this is
Speaker 4: going to be something that you can hear a lot
Speaker 4: of people talking about why we need a cameras in
Speaker 4: the cockpit, which pilots are dead set against.
Speaker 5: I think that they should be there.
Speaker 4: They're they're in trains and buses and all these other
Speaker 4: kinds of things everywhere. So I don't I don't, you know,
Speaker 4: I don't agree with that at all. But the other
Speaker 4: thing that is going to be pushing here is Oh,
Speaker 4: here we go, Jay, Yet another crash, another loss of
Speaker 4: life due to pilot air And isn't it time that
Speaker 4: we have more automation in the cockpits so we can
Speaker 4: have fewer pilots. And even though I'm against the idea,
Speaker 4: it's it's a fair argument to have.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, and Holman Jenkins made that argument today. He
Speaker 2: just brought up the concept. But we wouldn't have to
Speaker 2: completely remove the pilots to incorporate automation. And one of
Speaker 2: the suggestions he had was, why not have you know,
Speaker 2: ground based ability to take over control of the flight. Well,
Speaker 2: that doesn't eliminate human error, but how about artificial intelligence,
Speaker 2: you know, like the seven thirty seven Max software upgrade
Speaker 2: that they didn't bother telling pilots about to have AI
Speaker 2: scream at the pilots you're doing it wrong, or do
Speaker 2: this rather than what you're doing, or stop what you
Speaker 2: are doing. I mean, that seems like an easy extension
Speaker 2: of the intelligence we already have now.
Speaker 4: Well, and it's there because you know, when Air India
Speaker 4: flight took off, there was a lot of people saying
Speaker 4: that the flaps weren't in the proper sense for takeoff.
Speaker 4: And I'm thinking well, then you're ignoring a very loud
Speaker 4: screeching sound in the cockpit because that aircraft is going
Speaker 4: to tell you the flaps are not set for takeoff
Speaker 4: as you're starting to roll. So that's something that we
Speaker 4: already have. So we've got the automation, the protective systems
Speaker 4: within the cockpit and avi onyx that we have as
Speaker 4: a package on a lot of different aspects of the operation.
Speaker 4: You don't have a landing gear down as you approach
Speaker 4: the ground and alarm sounds. All these things are there
Speaker 4: to help the pilots who may have a lot of
Speaker 4: things going on to remember to do specific things. But
Speaker 4: something like that, you know to to not you know,
Speaker 4: Plus the engines are humming and you and at that
Speaker 4: point of rotation they're room I mean, they've got that.
Speaker 5: Deep rumble and you cut the power.
Speaker 4: On those, you're immediately going to know it, yeah, because
Speaker 4: they're gonna start to spool down. So that in itself
Speaker 4: is an audio alert that something's wrong. So we have
Speaker 4: some of that stuff built in that's there. But you know,
Speaker 4: if somebody's intent I don't care. If if the ground
Speaker 4: does have the capability to take over, there's always going
Speaker 4: to be a way on board for the aircraft crew
Speaker 4: members to override it if there's something else that's going
Speaker 4: ongoing that maybe isn't initially detected. So Ran there's a
Speaker 4: lot of questions here, and we're gonna have to wait
Speaker 4: and see where things go. They're looking into the mental
Speaker 4: health of the pilots, and a lot of pilot union
Speaker 4: people I've talked to, and I have students that are
Speaker 4: commercial pilots, are saying, you know, let's be very slow
Speaker 4: as we rush the judgment here. And I certainly agree
Speaker 4: that we need to do that, but it's it does
Speaker 4: not look good. And the way you honor the lives
Speaker 4: of people that were lost is Okay, if it was
Speaker 4: a mechanical situation, let's fix it and move on. When
Speaker 4: it involves possible mental health, that's.
Speaker 1: A totally different walk game.
Speaker 5: And then you're looking at.
Speaker 4: Your crew members when they get on like, okay, are
Speaker 4: you okay to fly today? And that's an unsettling thought.
Speaker 2: It is certainly an unsettling thought. And maybe when something
Speaker 2: like that outside of the ability of a non medical
Speaker 2: professional to clearly assess. Let's bring Jay Ratliff back more
Speaker 2: to talk about including idiots doing idiot things because they're idiots.
Speaker 1: It's eight thirty nine right now. If you have KCD
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Speaker 2: I heard me the aviation nextpert Jay Rival moving away
Speaker 2: real quick here before we pass on air Andy. I
Speaker 2: just got to ask it because it came out earlier
Speaker 2: in the conversations this morning with listeners. Do they ever
Speaker 2: do any follow up mental health screenings of pilots like
Speaker 2: throughout their career, Like, hey, every year you got to
Speaker 2: come in and do a psych check or something like that.
Speaker 4: Now we have the overall fitness part of it, the
Speaker 4: mental health aspect is encouraged, but unless it's depending on
Speaker 4: an airline and something I'm not aware of most of
Speaker 4: the time, it is not there as needed. And fortunately
Speaker 4: there's a lot of pilots that take advantage of that.
Speaker 4: And you know why pilots would be considered immune from
Speaker 4: all the things that impact all of us and all
Speaker 4: these other different professions. I mean, obviously those men and
Speaker 4: women go.
Speaker 5: Through a lot.
Speaker 4: So yeah, man, it's there for them as they need
Speaker 4: and fortunately a lot of people take advantage of it.
Speaker 2: All right, And why would someone punch a United Airlines
Speaker 2: gate agent Jay Ratliffe.
Speaker 4: Well, normally alcohol is involved. This was at the Washington
Speaker 4: Dallas Airport. He had a delayed flight, and anytime you
Speaker 4: have a really delayed flight, you know people are gonna
Speaker 4: be spending time relaxing alcohol. And there was a man
Speaker 4: that came up. He started yelling at the gate agent.
Speaker 4: He actually took his boarding passes that I refused to fly,
Speaker 4: tore it up, and then storm back to the ticket
Speaker 4: counter demanded another one. Well, but the captain is aware
Speaker 4: of some of this that's ongoing. So the captain you know,
Speaker 4: shows up and pulls the passenger off to the side
Speaker 4: and says, you're not flying on this airplane.
Speaker 5: I mean, it's just we'll help you on.
Speaker 4: Another flight, but you're not gonna be on my aircraft. Well,
Speaker 4: the guy gets mad and walks over to the gate
Speaker 4: agent and punches him and knocks the gate agent out. Well,
Speaker 4: the passengers arrested off. He goes he could have faced
Speaker 4: ten years in prison two hundred and fifty thousand dollars fine,
Speaker 4: as these always are, it's flea dealed down where I
Speaker 4: think he had to pay fifteen thousand to the gate
Speaker 4: agent he knocked out. He will face the fine from
Speaker 4: the FAA be banned from flying United Airlines ever again.
Speaker 4: But you know he can fly Delta tomorrow, Yeah, the
Speaker 4: next day, all these other US carriers. A man who's
Speaker 4: proven to be a threat to fellow passengers and other
Speaker 4: crew members, perhaps it's allowed to fly. And I just
Speaker 4: I think that's wrong. Now if it's a situation where
Speaker 4: they get in an argument, disagreement, you know, blah blah. Okay,
Speaker 4: I get that we don't want to ban somebody like that,
Speaker 4: But to me, here's a very clear case. He can't
Speaker 4: put them on the terror watch list, but a clear
Speaker 4: case of where okay, you've lost your flying privileges, which
Speaker 4: is what it is, yes, for a year, for two
Speaker 4: years something where there's some significance with regards to consequences,
Speaker 4: and Brian, it just doesn't exist because airlines aren't willing
Speaker 4: to create something like that because it's at a cost
Speaker 4: for them to create that kind of database, manage that
Speaker 4: database to keep these individuals off the fly.
Speaker 2: All right, Well, I guess Delta air Lines is looking
Speaker 2: to maximize profits. Now they're going to be using artificial
Speaker 2: eligence to do that. Jay Ratliff will come back and
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Speaker 2: Hey forty eight, fift five KRCD talk station Happy Friday,
Speaker 2: e Tech Friday, Dave pat of Tomorrow at six thirty,
Speaker 2: like it is every Friday, the meantime. One more here
Speaker 2: with IRT media Aviation expert Jay Ratliffe. Artificial intelligence creeping
Speaker 2: in everywhere and og there's a pesky profit motive motive
Speaker 2: over at Delta Airlines. How are they using AI to
Speaker 2: maximize their profits?
Speaker 4: Jay, Well, you know most of the time and for
Speaker 4: decades there lines of us what we call a static
Speaker 4: pricing model for their pricing of their seats, sell x
Speaker 4: percentage at this low price, and then a slightly lower
Speaker 4: percent at a higher price, and it goes from there,
Speaker 4: and as each one's ticked off the available seats, the.
Speaker 5: Fare goes up.
Speaker 4: Well, Delta has been using over the last several years
Speaker 4: artificial intelligence as a way to kind of boost their profit.
Speaker 4: Now they're saying, we're doing this because it gives the
Speaker 4: customer the price they're willing to pay, so they're saying
Speaker 4: it's a good thing for consumers. Now, this is also
Speaker 4: the same airline that was caught charging more for a
Speaker 4: single traveler than for a couple traveling on the same route,
Speaker 4: so sometimes up to seventy percent more. So am I
Speaker 4: going to necessarily believe that this increase in AI pricing
Speaker 4: is for my benefit?
Speaker 5: No, it's for profit.
Speaker 4: And Delta right now is planning as much as twenty
Speaker 4: percent of their fares to be based on artificial intelligence pricing.
Speaker 4: And obviously Delta right now is leading the pack with
Speaker 4: regards to the revenue their performance. They're just a very
Speaker 4: very well ran airline and they will be setting the
Speaker 4: pace for other airlines because they'll follow this as well.
Speaker 4: So artificial intelligence as it's in its infancy, if you will,
Speaker 4: and a lot of aspects and businesses. It's the exact
Speaker 4: same thing here. Where airlines can use this a for pricing,
Speaker 4: they're certainly using it for customer service where they have
Speaker 4: artificial intelligence responding to people as they have various questions
Speaker 4: and things.
Speaker 5: And it's back.
Speaker 4: To the more technology we have, the cheaper it will
Speaker 4: be for us because we do not have to worry
Speaker 4: about employee costs and benefits and.
Speaker 5: All the things that go with that.
Speaker 4: And yeah, they're running in this direction as fast as
Speaker 4: they can so, but I love Delta. They are my
Speaker 4: carrier of choice, but I am not going to believe
Speaker 4: artificial intelligence is being put in place for my benefit
Speaker 4: of pricing.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, it's a safe bet, Jay.
Speaker 2: Now the AI will will probably be performing some sort
Speaker 2: of actuarial analysis in order to determine pricing. Like I
Speaker 2: guess they could figure out which flights to which destination
Speaker 2: typically have more business travelers and those are the ones
Speaker 2: that are willing to pay the most money for a
Speaker 2: ticket as opposed to like maybe holiday destinations where people
Speaker 2: have the luxury to plan a year in advance for
Speaker 2: their for their flight and it.
Speaker 4: Can also look back to what Jay's paid on previous tickets. Oh,
Speaker 4: so it's already got an idea of what is comfortable
Speaker 4: for me and what's not. So with that kind of mindset,
Speaker 4: the thought is, well, you know, Jay and Cherry paid
Speaker 4: this for this trip on this day.
Speaker 5: So even though the actual.
Speaker 4: Fair could be maybe lower, you know, wow, it's out there.
Speaker 4: So I mean the possibilities are endless.
Speaker 1: Oh without class where they could go.
Speaker 4: With this, And if they're going to base it on individuals,
Speaker 4: then what they're telling me is, Jay, we're going to
Speaker 4: look at your spending habbits, We're going to look at
Speaker 4: your tribal preferences. We're gonna blah blah blah blah blah,
Speaker 4: and that's the package you're going to be presented. No,
Speaker 4: I want to be able to look across the way
Speaker 4: and you know, see what's the best fare that I
Speaker 4: can give, schedule those types of things. But we all
Speaker 4: have different travel patterns and as a result, sometimes it's
Speaker 4: how you pay for your ticket, or how far in
Speaker 4: advance you make your reservation, or do you fly one
Speaker 4: way around trip More often than that, I mean, there's
Speaker 4: so many factors that go into you know, the the behind.
Speaker 5: The scenes.
Speaker 4: Logistics, if you will, of someone's travel. Yeah, habits that
Speaker 4: a lot of this stuff can be fed into this
Speaker 4: artificial intelligence that can better match me for what I'm
Speaker 4: looking for, which, sadly, I think my opinion could cause
Speaker 4: me sometimes to overpay for something I shouldn't well.
Speaker 2: Exactly, And I suppose ano the scenario you painted where
Speaker 2: they're using AI on an individual passenger basis, I could
Speaker 2: be sitting in the room right next to you on
Speaker 2: my computer, I have a different travel in an airline usage.
Speaker 2: I've paid less or more than you. I could plug
Speaker 2: the same flight, same day, departure, same flight, and end
Speaker 2: up with a higher price ticket than you, even though
Speaker 2: we're doing at the same time, in the same.
Speaker 5: Room, on the same flight, same day.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeph wow.
Speaker 4: Which can also be the case because a lot of
Speaker 4: times people will contact me and said, Jay, you know,
Speaker 4: I found a flight to this country for this price.
Speaker 5: What do you think.
Speaker 4: I'm thinking, Oh, it's probably gone by now, because a
Speaker 4: lot of times those prices there might be three seats
Speaker 4: when you check availability, and it's there because you have
Speaker 4: last seat availability on most of the online systems you're
Speaker 4: using with the airline and yeah, there is only one
Speaker 4: seat left or two seats left or whatever, so it's
Speaker 4: grab it as you can. So I'm used to people
Speaker 4: paying different fares. What I'm not used to is the
Speaker 4: computer looking at me saying, here's Jay's travel history and
Speaker 4: matching something with that that may not be my best interest.
Speaker 5: Now.
Speaker 4: You know, Delta again does a lot of things, right,
Speaker 4: They make a ton of money. They recently had some
Speaker 4: good news on earnings and some of their future outlook
Speaker 4: and things, and they're kind of the exception to the
Speaker 4: rule right now within the transportation field.
Speaker 5: So if Delta does this, look.
Speaker 4: For other airlines, Oh yeah, well a hamstring running in
Speaker 4: that direction to get there with.
Speaker 1: The dominoes fall. All right?
Speaker 2: For those who are flying today, what's it look like
Speaker 2: in terms of air traveling hub delays.
Speaker 4: We've had a good morning, which means if you catch
Speaker 4: that first light out in the morning, as I like
Speaker 4: to do, off to a good start. But a lot
Speaker 4: of the rain is headed towards Boston is going to
Speaker 4: give us issues, and of course the Gulf Coaster is
Speaker 4: getting soaked today. But from a hub standpoint, we should
Speaker 4: be okay. But those afternoon aggravating pop up thunderstorms could
Speaker 4: happen anywhere, which could cause some problems with Brian. All
Speaker 4: in all, it's going to be a pretty good day
Speaker 4: to fly, but a day of turbulence. If you are
Speaker 4: going to be flying nothing dangerous, just keep your seat
Speaker 4: belt about you so that you just don't kiss the
Speaker 4: ceiling when.
Speaker 5: You weren't expecting it.
Speaker 2: Amen to that day, Ralf. Thank you as always for
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