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<v Speaker 1>You see something's going to happen.

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<v Speaker 2>What what's gonna happen?

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<v Speaker 1>I'll take what.

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<v Speaker 3>I well, what's up? Everybody? Welcome to another Headless's magical

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<v Speaker 3>mail bag. I'm driven by my co houst Nick Nick.

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<v Speaker 3>Tell them what you're working on? Tell him what you

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<v Speaker 3>got coming out?

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<v Speaker 4>What is up?

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<v Speaker 2>What is going on?

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<v Speaker 2>What am I working on? I just finished?

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<v Speaker 4>Uh I got you down a Bruno Part two coming

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<v Speaker 4>out tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 2>But I just finished and uploaded to to premiere.

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<v Speaker 4>I think the week after that, I got some uh Jabir,

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<v Speaker 4>I've been high end coming out. He's kind of considered

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<v Speaker 4>like one of the first alchemists. He is known as

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<v Speaker 4>the father of chemistry. So interesting guy. And uh yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I got working some other stuff too. Oh we got

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<v Speaker 4>Supper in the Rainbow went out tomorrow too for all

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<v Speaker 4>of us.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh man, that's gonna be a big one. That's gonna

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<v Speaker 3>be a big one. I think a lot of people

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<v Speaker 3>want to get in on that. This is you know,

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<v Speaker 3>it's like an obsession. Like once I saw that first

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<v Speaker 3>in Search of with Leonard Nimoy way back to the day,

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<v Speaker 3>and I saw the zombies, I'm like, what the hell

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<v Speaker 3>is going on? I gotta know more about this.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, just looking into that movie to even like polish

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<v Speaker 4>up on my own zombie stuff, like cause I didn't

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<v Speaker 4>know much, but I even learned, like even in their

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<v Speaker 4>own like even in Haiti, there's more than one like

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<v Speaker 4>kind of version of a zombie. I didn't know that.

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<v Speaker 4>You can either be like actually, you know, died and

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<v Speaker 4>came back, or you're controlled by somebody. I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>that's a little freaky.

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<v Speaker 3>Right right. It's a very bizarre and yet very perennial

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<v Speaker 3>idea of these people being controlled by a magician. And

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<v Speaker 3>now and now we have these.

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<v Speaker 2>Same shit right a box. There's multiple magicians in there.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, oh we got more than one.

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, that's what politics and social media is all

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<v Speaker 4>about now, is which magician can be the most powerful

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<v Speaker 4>on that fucking phone.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, politics means many texts, many parasites. Let's get into

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<v Speaker 3>your let's get into your image first. Let's get into

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<v Speaker 3>your symbol.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's see Yeah, yeah, we got a praxis here, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>so that is a cock headed serpent leg the sigul

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<v Speaker 4>there or image image. So yeah, I know there has

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<v Speaker 4>been I think there's other versions that we have seen

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<v Speaker 4>of a praxis or things like that close to that,

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<v Speaker 4>but uh, I don't think we've covered it before, so yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>this is basically.

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<v Speaker 2>It is a an oval.

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<v Speaker 4>O lentil shaped gemstone, sometimes Jasper hematite or Calcedoni engraved,

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<v Speaker 4>and so we can be pressed like a seal. On

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<v Speaker 4>it stands a being with a rooster's head, a human

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<v Speaker 4>torso and armor, and two serpent two serpents for legs

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<v Speaker 4>in one hand normally as a whip, and in the

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<v Speaker 4>other hand is a round shield that sometimes bears a

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<v Speaker 4>holy name or stars or small auxiliary.

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<v Speaker 2>Deity may hover nearby.

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<v Speaker 4>Curators label to figure a brax a braxis or ab

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<v Speaker 4>r a s A x classic examples as usual sits

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<v Speaker 4>in the British Museum. They are a metropolitan. It seems

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<v Speaker 4>like all these things around. Archaeologically, the Braxis gem cluster

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<v Speaker 4>is in the second or third centuries. It's found across

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<v Speaker 4>across the Eastern Mediterranean and the wider Roman Empire. The

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<v Speaker 4>British Museum catalogs multiple Late Roman pieces with full iconography,

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<v Speaker 4>again with the whip, with the shield and the serpents,

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<v Speaker 4>often with reverse inscriptions behind the object sits a contemporary

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<v Speaker 4>name tradition. By the early third century, Christians like Hippolytis

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<v Speaker 4>report that followers of the Alexandrian teacher Bastillia or even

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<v Speaker 4>b A. S I L I d e s spoke

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<v Speaker 4>of three hundred and sixty five heavens ruled by a

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<v Speaker 4>great Arkhan of Braxis. The name letters the name's letters

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<v Speaker 4>summing by Greek isosophy to three hundred and sixty fives

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<v Speaker 4>three hundred and sixty five. So I don't know whatever

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<v Speaker 4>he actually taught. The coincidence of the name and number

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<v Speaker 4>and eror helps explain why a three hundred and sixty

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<v Speaker 4>five charged deity proliferates on amulets.

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<v Speaker 2>Then, so I didn't know that.

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<v Speaker 4>Greek isosify I said that wrong before, But yeah, that

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<v Speaker 4>is like basically Jamatria.

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<v Speaker 2>But for that.

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<v Speaker 4>Who made them, they were specialist products of the same

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<v Speaker 4>lapetry industry that cut Roman signet rings.

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<v Speaker 2>A soft stone was carved in a taglio.

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<v Speaker 4>Which that is like a wave of so you compress

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<v Speaker 4>it to make a seal, then hard fired or polished.

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<v Speaker 4>The gem was set in bronze or gold, or carried

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<v Speaker 4>as a loose amulet. Because they're I'm not even sure

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<v Speaker 4>if I'm saying this correct. Itaglios. They were meant to

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<v Speaker 4>stamp clay or wax, branding parcels, jars, or personal kits

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<v Speaker 4>with a protective impress, while also being worn for you're

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<v Speaker 4>gonna show more force. Museum records routinely note inscribed reverses

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<v Speaker 4>and stuff that marked them as magical instruments rather than

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<v Speaker 4>mere ornaments. What the image meant in ancient readings. Praxis

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<v Speaker 4>is a name powered composite built from pieces every Roman

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<v Speaker 4>viewer under stood. The rooster signals light and vigilance. On

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<v Speaker 4>some gems, this shield is inscribed with I ao interesting,

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<v Speaker 4>the Hellenized form of the tetragram, a power name found

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<v Speaker 4>yeah all over the Greek magical papyri. The serpent legs

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<v Speaker 4>mark katonic reach and bound breaking mobility. UH stars and

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<v Speaker 4>seven raid signs point to astrol jurisdiction. British museum pieces,

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<v Speaker 4>even pair of braxis with well, that's interesting, harp all

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<v Speaker 4>cross the horus, the child on the lotus a solar

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<v Speaker 4>echo inside the same tiny field. That is interesting. That is,

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<v Speaker 4>whenever when you do the sinus silence, you know. Crowley

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<v Speaker 4>specifies that in his UH his rituals and then even

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<v Speaker 4>the other ones that he took from the Golden door

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<v Speaker 4>or whatever. And uh, you know, either the sinus silence

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<v Speaker 4>or it could be called the sign of horpark cross.

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<v Speaker 4>So very interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>Um.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, the number three sixty five again anchors the figure

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<v Speaker 4>and cosmic totality rule over every day of the year.

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<v Speaker 4>Exactly exactly why Hippolytis summarizes Basilidian.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe that was a guy's name.

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<v Speaker 4>Basolidian lore Scholars now read many a Braxis gems less

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<v Speaker 4>as sect badges and more as Greco Egyptian magical amulets

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<v Speaker 4>that borrow the name for its charge and the piper.

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<v Speaker 4>We refined invocations like Iao sabbath at Anie of Braxis,

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<v Speaker 4>names stacked to compel and protect, matching what cutters engraved

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<v Speaker 4>on stones and shields. What people did with them again

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<v Speaker 4>they worm, they warm was rings or pendants for protection

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<v Speaker 4>and success. They stamped with them. Again I mentioned the taglio.

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<v Speaker 4>If I'm saying that correctly, face could seal clay, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>and you can push stuff on, you know, whatever press it.

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<v Speaker 2>They spoke to them.

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<v Speaker 4>The PGM preserves the words those gems advertise. Uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>whatever it's on there, you could pretty much. I guess,

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<v Speaker 4>kind of almost like a mantra with it. You would

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<v Speaker 4>speak into it whatever's written on there. And uh again,

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<v Speaker 4>like if I guess, if you wanted to try to

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<v Speaker 4>see these things, the British Museum has them, and the

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<v Speaker 4>Getty Museum has them, and the Istanbul Archaeological Museum has them.

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<v Speaker 4>So if anybody's just happens to be around by any

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<v Speaker 4>of those, you know, you can go check it out.

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<v Speaker 4>But uh here, let me let me let me also

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<v Speaker 4>see if I got uh, I got others. Sorry, I

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<v Speaker 4>got other images that I could show that would be better.

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<v Speaker 4>I just can't change it is. When you start getting

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<v Speaker 4>like the writing on there.

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<v Speaker 2>There, you go.

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<v Speaker 3>Very interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, sorry and throw it there. I just wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>pull it up so people.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I mean, that's really good. The thing that I

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<v Speaker 3>noticed the most is the direction of the heads of

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<v Speaker 3>those snake legs. Right, so if you're thinking snake legs,

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<v Speaker 3>you're thinking of snake tails, but you can clearly see

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<v Speaker 3>the heads on those snake legs.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, so it's it's.

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<v Speaker 3>Reversed, right. So there is the chariot card, right, the

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<v Speaker 3>chariot tear of the chariot card is supposed to have

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<v Speaker 3>snake legs, and those snake legs are the tails of

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<v Speaker 3>the snake. That's more of like the Ericthonian version of

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<v Speaker 3>the snake legs and the Abraxis version of the snake

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<v Speaker 3>legs is having the heads pointing out.

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<v Speaker 4>That is actually, yeah, that's it's pretty cool that you

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<v Speaker 4>noticed it, because even like it's not snakes is probably

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<v Speaker 4>even like fish. But even like with Sumerian anything else

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<v Speaker 4>that I've actually ever seen normally, it's not like you're saying,

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<v Speaker 4>it's always like the end. It's like the tail of

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<v Speaker 4>the fin. It's never actually the head. I didn't really

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<v Speaker 4>think of that, and I'm sure that means something.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, if I was going to give a vague generalization

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<v Speaker 3>idea of it, it would be that all parts of

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<v Speaker 3>this deity are conscious, all parts are looking outward right.

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<v Speaker 3>The three sixty five is also an indicator of that too,

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<v Speaker 3>looking outward.

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>So also that's why you would put them on all

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<v Speaker 3>of these seals and stuff, is because all parts are

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<v Speaker 3>looking outward. It's the ultimate in defense three sixty five

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<v Speaker 3>looking in all directions at once, and also having that shield,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, being the symbol of defense obviously, and the whip.

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<v Speaker 3>Everything must move as I order it too, right, three

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<v Speaker 3>hundred and sixty five.

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<v Speaker 4>Heavens even a good idea of air too, sounds.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, Yeah, you get this, Okay. So the middle part

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<v Speaker 3>of this deity is a man, but the top and

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<v Speaker 3>the bottom parts are animal. So it's like the heart

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<v Speaker 3>of a man, right, and then the head of a chicken,

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<v Speaker 3>and the body and the legs of a snake. Somebody

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<v Speaker 3>in the chat was saying, it's the feathered serpent as well,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's the feathered serpent of man, right, because in

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<v Speaker 3>the middle you've got the ability to use tools and

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<v Speaker 3>the ability to influence other things. And we see another.

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<v Speaker 4>Boh, that's you know what's interesting. That is like a

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<v Speaker 4>big difference between us and animals. Yeah, the fact that

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<v Speaker 4>you can you know, like when you see two thousand

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<v Speaker 4>and one, you know, the monkey picks up the stick

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<v Speaker 4>and realizes it can use something, and fucking shit goes

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<v Speaker 4>haywire after that.

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<v Speaker 3>Right. And it's funny because you know what they were

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<v Speaker 3>talking about with the chicken head. That means ever vigilant

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<v Speaker 3>in Roman mysticism, right, because the the rooster is the

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<v Speaker 3>first one to crow in the morning, right, And he's

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<v Speaker 3>always he's always keeping an eye out for any sort

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<v Speaker 3>of danger during the day. So it's it's almost like

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<v Speaker 3>there's nothing you can get past this guy. He's always

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<v Speaker 3>watching you.

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<v Speaker 4>Is he also associated with Hermes? Oh yeah, he would

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<v Speaker 4>be of air, and I would just say that whip

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<v Speaker 4>might work with that.

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<v Speaker 2>Again, I don't know why.

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<v Speaker 3>I would say, it's the snakes that remind me more

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<v Speaker 3>of Hermes than the than the head, but I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know why. Like for me, it's the it's the legs

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<v Speaker 3>that represent Hermes on this one.

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<v Speaker 4>But you know that's really interesting because again the snake's

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<v Speaker 4>it's totally Hermes really if you think about it now,

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of Hermes.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, but Hermes transcends all barriers. There's no barrier that

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<v Speaker 2>That's why human I mean man in man and animals

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<v Speaker 3>Know who knows, right, but there are these like vague

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<v Speaker 3>sort of like brushstrokes where you can see other gods

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<v Speaker 3>and other things in it, and you could see how

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<v Speaker 3>yet when you show it to somebody who has no

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<v Speaker 3>initiation into the you know symbols and stuff. Look, he's

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<v Speaker 3>holding his hand out on the supplant's head, right. The

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<v Speaker 3>suppliants is like, you know, bowing and you know, begging

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<v Speaker 3>for respect in the and the braxis he is. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>he's genuflecting, certainly, But why is he genuflecting on a

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<v Speaker 3>sloped surface?

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<v Speaker 2>I did find that weird. I was like, is that

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<v Speaker 2>just how they drew it to her?

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<v Speaker 2>Why is it like angled down?

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<v Speaker 3>It could be an indicator of where you're supposed to

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<v Speaker 3>pray for the protection, like this has to be done

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<v Speaker 3>on like a down slope of a hill.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe then you even have that's the shield I forgot. Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>I was wondering what that was hands.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>Is that the shield? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's a shield. He's holding both the whip.

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<v Speaker 4>And the shields.

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<v Speaker 3>Good because he's reaching out to the supplying. How do

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<v Speaker 3>you say, do you say suppliant or supplient?

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<v Speaker 4>That's how I've heard it.

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<v Speaker 3>And it says j a I again. So the Egyptians

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<v Speaker 3>would call yahweh worshipers donkey worshippers because they could hear

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<v Speaker 3>the yow yow, kind of like a donkey does when it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Bray Democrats, and so.

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<v Speaker 3>Donkey is a very potent symbol, Like people sleep on

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<v Speaker 3>that donkey, you could see all throughout history. Well yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>but for very different reasons. You know.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what's interesting, Elephants like can know when somebody

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<v Speaker 2>Uh it was elephants that uh.

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<v Speaker 4>They some guy ended up like being associated with these

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<v Speaker 4>elephants for some reason, and they ended up, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>he went his own way and they went their own

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<v Speaker 4>way eventually, I think, like they were they were young,

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<v Speaker 4>and then they they went somewhere else or whatever. And

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<v Speaker 4>one day this guy died and somehow these motherfuckers knew

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<v Speaker 4>and showed up in his house and stood there for

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<v Speaker 4>a while, just like I guess, you know, doing service,

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<v Speaker 4>and then just fucking turned around and went home. People

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<v Speaker 4>were like, how the fuck did these things know this

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<v Speaker 4>guy died? Like they came days later, Like that is weird.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, there there's always this element of fear to the

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<v Speaker 3>Braxis thing, like his his presence almost evokes a kind

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<v Speaker 3>of fear. You know, it's like you must be prostrate

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<v Speaker 3>before him, you must be on the ground. You have to,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, be bowing to this thing. This thing is

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<v Speaker 3>the highest of the heights. But it's just kind of

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<v Speaker 3>odd because you know, you've got the yahweh in there

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<v Speaker 3>as well, the yao, right, so yahweh is in the

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<v Speaker 3>braxis as well. But it's it seems to me that

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<v Speaker 3>the classical world and the classical form of association was

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<v Speaker 3>more about brush strokes as opposed to definite mathematical certainty.

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<v Speaker 3>You know. It's just more like this is similar to that,

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<v Speaker 3>this is similar to this, and then it all sort

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<v Speaker 3>of comes together, and then you're like left with the mystery,

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<v Speaker 3>and that mystery is there for the person who's looking

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<v Speaker 3>on to figure out for themselves, you know who.

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<v Speaker 4>This reminds me of two fucking boh of it, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>big time, eh, And like listen, I don't know, but

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<v Speaker 4>sometimes I honestly there's other things that I've seen that

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<v Speaker 4>fry to Baphamet that was very close to it, Like

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<v Speaker 4>I mentioned, Heinrich Conrath. Sometimes I do honestly think that

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<v Speaker 4>that's just an image that was created a certain way.

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<v Speaker 4>So people are like, oh my god, it's horrible because

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<v Speaker 4>like you've seen I don't countless other versions of it

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<v Speaker 4>like this and other things. That's like, it's actually deep

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<v Speaker 4>meaning here doesn't mean like you know, you're fucking like

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<v Speaker 4>fucking kids will worship and seen.

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<v Speaker 3>What I'm saying, it's that gnosis is a mangle that

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<v Speaker 3>really throws people off is because they're not really understanding

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<v Speaker 3>that magic was kind of a way of life back then,

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<v Speaker 3>and so all of these gnostic rituals and stuff was

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<v Speaker 3>an elevation of that particular form, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, And then this one or whoever looks.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't want to hold up the show either, go

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<v Speaker 4>on for eighteen minutes just with my thing.

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<v Speaker 3>But well, is that a harp? Seem a heart?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what?

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<v Speaker 3>In fact, in his other hand.

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<v Speaker 2>It looks like the whip and I don't know, some

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<v Speaker 2>weird looking shield.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe I don't know it is circular. These are pable symbols.

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<v Speaker 3>Interesting, Yeah, what does that say?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. Is that even Greek that doesn't look

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<v Speaker 3>like Greek doesn't look like Latin either, other than the

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<v Speaker 3>E and the I, some.

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<v Speaker 4>Ship out of a I don't know. Yeah, prior from

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<v Speaker 4>the grip I was gonna look like it looks like

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<v Speaker 4>something out of the grip Is book, but it's a

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<v Speaker 4>way older, all right, All.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, well I got my cycle here for the labyrinth. Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if you guys have been paying attention,

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<v Speaker 3>but these are one of those things I used to

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<v Speaker 3>like to draw in high school. You know, it's basically

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<v Speaker 3>across with a couple of dots in it, and then

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<v Speaker 3>you connect the dots to the straight lines and you

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<v Speaker 3>create this sort of labyrinth type figure that spreads from

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<v Speaker 3>one section to the other. Now, these are considered meditative labyrinths.

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<v Speaker 3>The original purpose we don't know, because it stretches back

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<v Speaker 3>to about four thousand years ago. That's when we start

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<v Speaker 3>to see these geoglyphs being put onto the ground. What's

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<v Speaker 3>assumed is that this would be a meditative practice where

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<v Speaker 3>you're walking the labyrinth. So you would come in here

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<v Speaker 3>right where that opening is, and take it all like

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<v Speaker 3>right there at the bottom, take it up to the top,

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<v Speaker 3>cross back over, cross back over, across back over until

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<v Speaker 3>you're right there in the middle. And so this procession

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<v Speaker 3>would almost be like a spatial representation like prayer. Beads, right,

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<v Speaker 3>So each time you're passing through these channels, you're changing

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<v Speaker 3>up your prayer as you're getting closer and closer to

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<v Speaker 3>the center. And then you would do the same thing

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<v Speaker 3>in reverse as you're leaving the labyrinth, right. And so

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<v Speaker 3>there's a really cool one right outside of the Edgar

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<v Speaker 3>Casey Memorial Library in Virginia Beach, and it's it's way

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<v Speaker 3>bigger than this, but you can add as many dots

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<v Speaker 3>and straight lines as you want to. You just keep

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<v Speaker 3>bisecting each one of the quadrants, so you can keep

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<v Speaker 3>making more and more of these pathways as you extend

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<v Speaker 3>the image out further, so it's fully scalable.

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<v Speaker 2>Someone saying it's the post.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you also have these in cathedrals as well, And

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<v Speaker 3>they're trying to say that these are related to demons

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<v Speaker 3>in motherboards for some reason. That's really uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>it's tenuous at best, But as with all figures that

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<v Speaker 3>fascinate people, they have to be evil. But I think

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<v Speaker 3>these were most closely related to geomantic energies. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>so in a lot of ways, you would have geomantic

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<v Speaker 3>energies that would terrify people, right, you would get into

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<v Speaker 3>these lay lines or these you know, stone monuments, and

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<v Speaker 3>the energies hitting your body would be overwhelming, and you

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<v Speaker 3>had to go through this as if it was an initiation,

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<v Speaker 3>a right of manhood, something where you could actually still

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<v Speaker 3>maintain your consciousness while being bombarded with different earthly energies.

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<v Speaker 3>And yeah, people do pass out from this stuff. If

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<v Speaker 3>you look up Glastonbury, what is it fainting Glastonbury fainting

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<v Speaker 3>people like all these visitors over to Glastonbury, they could

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<v Speaker 3>be overcome with this energy and fall over and hit

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<v Speaker 3>their heads and shit, it's not uncommon at all. So

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<v Speaker 3>we're talking about magnetic waves that are enough to knock

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<v Speaker 3>a person out, and you've got to go through that

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<v Speaker 3>as kind of an initiation, which I think is kind

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<v Speaker 3>of interesting because people don't really associate the subtle energies

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<v Speaker 3>with being weaponized. But I can guarantee you that if

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<v Speaker 3>there are geomancers out there, which have you ever looked

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<v Speaker 3>up geomanty nick, they call it coin flipping. Yeah, where's

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<v Speaker 3>this stuff about the geoglyphs? How do you construct a geoglyph?

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<v Speaker 3>How are the symbols of geoglyphs that were made by

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<v Speaker 3>let's say Europeans related to the stuff by South Americans. Right,

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<v Speaker 3>do we have any cross cultural analysis of geoglyphs that

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<v Speaker 3>are made in these different areas. Now, it's like almost

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<v Speaker 3>nobody's studying the geomantic forces and the geoglyphs themselves. Even

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<v Speaker 3>the dowsers, like they have scant theories. Like I have

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<v Speaker 3>noticed that there are very few dowsers that are willing

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<v Speaker 3>to like actually make a claim as to what they're seeing.

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<v Speaker 3>It could be because they're being paid not to. Like,

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<v Speaker 3>there aren't many dowsers out there. And if you have

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<v Speaker 3>a monopolization on the dowsers, you have a monopolization on

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<v Speaker 3>understanding these earth energies from one generation.

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<v Speaker 2>To the next.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, that's an immense amount of power if you think

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<v Speaker 3>about influencing the future, creating different spells in the earth itself.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, do you remember that I can kill thirty

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<v Speaker 3>three ritual?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I've heard.

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<v Speaker 4>I couldn't tell you what it is, but I've heard

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<v Speaker 4>of it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's centered around truth and consequences New Mexico. Right, So

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<v Speaker 3>on this lay line or on this you know parallel, right,

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<v Speaker 3>You've got these rituals taking place that will then go

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<v Speaker 3>on to influence the rest of the country. And the

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<v Speaker 3>guy who wrote it was talking about how the nuclear

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<v Speaker 3>bomb was related to the Kennedy assassination, right, and it

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<v Speaker 3>all had to do with Freemasons. It's one of the first,

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<v Speaker 3>like Schizo posted, you know, kind of off the wall

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<v Speaker 3>conspiracy theories back in the nineteen sixties and seventies. Nobody's

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<v Speaker 3>found the guy who wrote it, right, and it was

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<v Speaker 3>perpetuated by a guy who has sort of been in

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<v Speaker 3>the background of the conspiracy movement for a long long time.

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<v Speaker 3>And so, you know what is King Kill thirty three?

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<v Speaker 3>I looked into it myself. I found references back to

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<v Speaker 3>the Golden Bough by James George Fraser, right, the Dying

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<v Speaker 3>God at the Lake Nemi, which you know kind of

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<v Speaker 3>takes us back into geomancy because we have all of

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<v Speaker 3>those elements of Lake Nemi in Washington, d C. And

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<v Speaker 3>you've got this King Kill thirty three, which is a

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<v Speaker 3>Masonic ritual about killing the King with the Golden Bough

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<v Speaker 3>type you know time frame. So I think there's a

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<v Speaker 3>lot more to geomancy than flipping coins. Oh yeah, right, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>we just don't have access to it. And it's really

424
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<v Speaker 3>odd that we don't. You'd think somebody would be looking

425
00:25:42.319 --> 00:25:44.960
<v Speaker 3>into this stuff. You know, at least one or two

426
00:25:45.000 --> 00:25:49.079
<v Speaker 3>independent researchers, But all we have is geoglyphs like this one.

427
00:25:51.200 --> 00:25:54.440
<v Speaker 3>So I guess the moral of the story is you

428
00:25:54.519 --> 00:25:58.359
<v Speaker 3>got to walk the elaborate more often to get the

429
00:25:58.400 --> 00:25:59.680
<v Speaker 3>answers to these questions.

430
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<v Speaker 2>Bump into da if you do? Was he big on

431
00:26:04.559 --> 00:26:06.279
<v Speaker 2>that he was in the movie Labyrinth?

432
00:26:06.319 --> 00:26:06.599
<v Speaker 4>Wasn't he?

433
00:26:07.000 --> 00:26:14.160
<v Speaker 3>Oh that's right, that's right. I got a crystal ball.

434
00:26:14.240 --> 00:26:17.480
<v Speaker 3>I can see if I could do the same thing

435
00:26:17.559 --> 00:26:20.319
<v Speaker 3>he was doing. All right, let's see, Uh, what kind

436
00:26:20.599 --> 00:26:22.599
<v Speaker 3>of mail do we have? If any?

437
00:26:22.960 --> 00:26:23.279
<v Speaker 4>Yes?

438
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<v Speaker 5>Oh god, h this worries me that you don't look

439
00:26:29.559 --> 00:26:35.079
<v Speaker 5>at the ship before you open. Nope, all right, it's

440
00:26:35.079 --> 00:26:37.119
<v Speaker 5>like one day he's just gonna like start reading something

441
00:26:37.119 --> 00:26:38.759
<v Speaker 5>and like be running off of it and be like,

442
00:26:38.759 --> 00:26:40.160
<v Speaker 5>oh fuck, did I just say what I think?

443
00:26:40.200 --> 00:26:51.319
<v Speaker 3>I just all right, let's see here. We got a

444
00:26:51.359 --> 00:26:54.839
<v Speaker 3>lot of stuff by you, and oh yeah those are

445
00:26:54.880 --> 00:27:00.640
<v Speaker 3>sorry those yeah, I got a bunch of scheduled locations.

446
00:27:00.680 --> 00:27:04.759
<v Speaker 3>But I don't have any mail, So guys, what the fuck? Please,

447
00:27:04.880 --> 00:27:08.519
<v Speaker 3>if you've had a dream, if you've had some sort

448
00:27:08.559 --> 00:27:13.640
<v Speaker 3>of experience that you can't explain, send it to me

449
00:27:14.880 --> 00:27:17.440
<v Speaker 3>Headless Giant Podcast at gmail dot com, and we will

450
00:27:17.440 --> 00:27:20.640
<v Speaker 3>read it on the air. There's a reason to.

451
00:27:20.559 --> 00:27:22.559
<v Speaker 2>Get people on. If they're willing to come on too,

452
00:27:22.640 --> 00:27:23.319
<v Speaker 2>that could be fun.

453
00:27:23.839 --> 00:27:26.559
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, we love having people on the show, especially if

454
00:27:26.599 --> 00:27:27.240
<v Speaker 3>you're a listener.

455
00:27:27.400 --> 00:27:28.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's true.

456
00:27:28.039 --> 00:27:30.240
<v Speaker 4>I mean, actually haven't we have Yeah, I mean the

457
00:27:30.240 --> 00:27:32.240
<v Speaker 4>two people we've had on the show were actually listeners.

458
00:27:33.519 --> 00:27:37.000
<v Speaker 3>Right. I had the people from Canada where they were

459
00:27:37.000 --> 00:27:40.319
<v Speaker 3>talking about their experience with that weird dude. That was

460
00:27:40.359 --> 00:27:42.160
<v Speaker 3>all part of the mail bag as well. So if

461
00:27:42.240 --> 00:27:45.599
<v Speaker 3>you've had any bizarre experiences, I know at least three

462
00:27:45.680 --> 00:27:48.799
<v Speaker 3>or four if you have listening right now, people.

463
00:27:48.519 --> 00:27:49.880
<v Speaker 2>In the chat that I know for a fact you've

464
00:27:49.920 --> 00:27:50.839
<v Speaker 2>got crazy stories.

465
00:27:52.759 --> 00:27:53.559
<v Speaker 4>I could see it.

466
00:27:53.839 --> 00:27:54.920
<v Speaker 3>I can smell it on you.

467
00:27:55.839 --> 00:27:59.359
<v Speaker 2>I've some of them already.

468
00:28:01.680 --> 00:28:04.119
<v Speaker 3>So give me those stories. Hell This Giant Podcast at

469
00:28:04.119 --> 00:28:07.960
<v Speaker 3>gmail dot com, Yes, sir, and we will read those

470
00:28:08.000 --> 00:28:09.400
<v Speaker 3>on Thursdays.

471
00:28:09.920 --> 00:28:12.119
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and so what do we uh you know again tomorrow?

472
00:28:12.160 --> 00:28:14.880
<v Speaker 4>We got separated in the rainbow. We got Annie joining.

473
00:28:14.640 --> 00:28:20.160
<v Speaker 6>Us yeah yeah, yeah, it'll be me you, Robbie Marks

474
00:28:20.440 --> 00:28:24.039
<v Speaker 6>and I think Jules, Yeah it should be fun in

475
00:28:24.119 --> 00:28:27.279
<v Speaker 6>him right, and then we got what Peter Mark Adams.

476
00:28:27.319 --> 00:28:32.799
<v Speaker 4>I think, uh, for Mithrus one of these days, and

477
00:28:32.839 --> 00:28:35.279
<v Speaker 4>then uh, that same day I ended up. I didn't

478
00:28:35.279 --> 00:28:36.960
<v Speaker 4>even realize that I booked I think two people on

479
00:28:37.000 --> 00:28:38.720
<v Speaker 4>the same day. And I have also somebody from my

480
00:28:38.920 --> 00:28:45.119
<v Speaker 4>astrology as well that same day, Simon Picall. So yeah,

481
00:28:45.480 --> 00:28:48.200
<v Speaker 4>and then I think, then Monday, it sucks. It's during

482
00:28:48.279 --> 00:28:50.880
<v Speaker 4>the day, dude, I really wish it wasn't during the day.

483
00:28:50.960 --> 00:28:52.119
<v Speaker 2>Oh no, maybe it's at night.

484
00:28:52.119 --> 00:28:58.720
<v Speaker 4>I gotta say, pet Newman, I think it's during the day.

485
00:28:58.480 --> 00:29:00.279
<v Speaker 3>You know, No, I I just quit right.

486
00:29:00.400 --> 00:29:05.599
<v Speaker 2>Oh so then he could come on awesome. Yo.

487
00:29:05.680 --> 00:29:07.720
<v Speaker 4>I actually had people that I was scheduling, and I

488
00:29:07.799 --> 00:29:09.680
<v Speaker 4>was like, fuck man like because that during the day.

489
00:29:09.720 --> 00:29:12.000
<v Speaker 4>I was like, I kind of was like pushing it off,

490
00:29:12.400 --> 00:29:14.440
<v Speaker 4>all right, I got it, all right, cool. I didn't

491
00:29:14.480 --> 00:29:16.519
<v Speaker 4>think about that. Nice nice all right.

492
00:29:16.559 --> 00:29:16.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

493
00:29:16.720 --> 00:29:18.279
<v Speaker 4>Then I think I even have somebody coming off her

494
00:29:18.279 --> 00:29:21.759
<v Speaker 4>Italian Uh, Italian witchcraft. I think next week during the day,

495
00:29:21.759 --> 00:29:24.079
<v Speaker 4>if you're around Strad.

496
00:29:24.319 --> 00:29:26.559
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's what got me into this whole thing.

497
00:29:26.680 --> 00:29:29.039
<v Speaker 2>She's got the ladies more well.

498
00:29:29.599 --> 00:29:31.519
<v Speaker 4>She won't talk about personal life, but she covers it

499
00:29:31.559 --> 00:29:34.039
<v Speaker 4>from an academic because she does have a PhD in

500
00:29:34.039 --> 00:29:36.920
<v Speaker 4>the ship. So you know, I couldn't tell you if

501
00:29:36.920 --> 00:29:39.400
<v Speaker 4>she practices it or not, but she, you know, on

502
00:29:39.440 --> 00:29:41.559
<v Speaker 4>a piece of paper, so she has somewhat of an idea.

503
00:29:42.839 --> 00:29:46.279
<v Speaker 4>But she's well known. She's well known in the occult community.

504
00:29:46.480 --> 00:29:47.680
<v Speaker 4>I was actually surprised she'd come.

505
00:29:48.000 --> 00:29:52.559
<v Speaker 3>She came on, well, I might get a little bit spicy.

506
00:29:52.799 --> 00:29:55.400
<v Speaker 3>I might ask her about Margot Adler and drawing down

507
00:29:55.440 --> 00:29:56.039
<v Speaker 3>the moon.

508
00:29:56.960 --> 00:30:00.240
<v Speaker 4>Right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that was definitely yeah.

509
00:30:00.240 --> 00:30:02.160
<v Speaker 4>I'll suit you over the invites as soon as we

510
00:30:02.240 --> 00:30:04.079
<v Speaker 4>get off here for the shows during the day. I

511
00:30:04.119 --> 00:30:06.680
<v Speaker 4>didn't I totally wasn't thinking about that. I totally was

512
00:30:06.759 --> 00:30:09.279
<v Speaker 4>not thinking about that. Nice.

513
00:30:09.839 --> 00:30:12.240
<v Speaker 3>Well, we gotta still do that Wicker episode, dude, that's

514
00:30:12.279 --> 00:30:14.079
<v Speaker 3>what really brings it all together.

515
00:30:13.839 --> 00:30:20.079
<v Speaker 4>Dude, RecA, Yeah, yeah, we should do that. That is

516
00:30:20.119 --> 00:30:23.799
<v Speaker 4>so interesting. I think a lot of people into witchcraft

517
00:30:24.680 --> 00:30:26.839
<v Speaker 4>might be a little surprised. And again, it's not knocking

518
00:30:26.880 --> 00:30:30.440
<v Speaker 4>the guy. It's just, you know, if anything, he was

519
00:30:30.480 --> 00:30:33.480
<v Speaker 4>just more into ceremonial magic I think before he started Wicker,

520
00:30:34.759 --> 00:30:38.000
<v Speaker 4>and I don't know, I know a lot of a lot.

521
00:30:37.839 --> 00:30:45.160
<v Speaker 3>Of there's also a bunch of festivals and like camping

522
00:30:45.200 --> 00:30:48.359
<v Speaker 3>retreats and a bunch of stories from those events that

523
00:30:48.400 --> 00:30:55.880
<v Speaker 3>are just fucking balkers. Oh yeah, definitely, So that'll be

524
00:30:55.920 --> 00:30:59.160
<v Speaker 3>fun to do. I mean it's almost like a forensic

525
00:30:59.200 --> 00:31:01.039
<v Speaker 3>side to get a pick part of the pieces with

526
00:31:02.119 --> 00:31:08.759
<v Speaker 3>Robert loved especially work, and we got illustrations. I got

527
00:31:08.839 --> 00:31:10.240
<v Speaker 3>Uncle Bucky's big blue.

528
00:31:10.000 --> 00:31:15.440
<v Speaker 4>Books Buckling Holy Ship. That was the most driest fucking

529
00:31:15.480 --> 00:31:16.920
<v Speaker 4>book I think I ever read.

530
00:31:18.240 --> 00:31:20.279
<v Speaker 3>Which one the blue bunch of them?

531
00:31:20.400 --> 00:31:20.599
<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

532
00:31:20.680 --> 00:31:23.680
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, no, actually, yeah, I think anything by him. I'm

533
00:31:23.720 --> 00:31:26.319
<v Speaker 4>not saying it's bad, it's just very straight. It was

534
00:31:26.400 --> 00:31:28.599
<v Speaker 4>just very dry to me, you know what I'm saying.

535
00:31:28.640 --> 00:31:35.279
<v Speaker 4>But there's a lot of information in those books.

536
00:31:34.839 --> 00:31:37.200
<v Speaker 3>And he has quizzes at the end of the chapters.

537
00:31:38.400 --> 00:31:41.599
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, that's like the different end of the occult spectrum. Right,

538
00:31:41.680 --> 00:31:45.160
<v Speaker 3>you got the the all the Crowley stuff over here,

539
00:31:45.240 --> 00:31:48.119
<v Speaker 3>and then you got all the uh Gerald Gardner stuff

540
00:31:48.119 --> 00:31:50.680
<v Speaker 3>over here, and they're supposedly different, but they've got so

541
00:31:50.799 --> 00:31:52.480
<v Speaker 3>much in common it's almost ridiculous.

542
00:31:52.559 --> 00:31:54.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's what it is.

543
00:31:54.359 --> 00:31:59.079
<v Speaker 4>Yes, that's uh yeah, I mean, uh Crowley again gave

544
00:31:59.359 --> 00:32:02.960
<v Speaker 4>General Jokoda was a student in his and he gave him.

545
00:32:03.680 --> 00:32:05.599
<v Speaker 4>He gave him permission to even open up a lodge,

546
00:32:05.599 --> 00:32:07.359
<v Speaker 4>and the guy was like, I guess he was like, nah,

547
00:32:07.400 --> 00:32:10.119
<v Speaker 4>I'll go with Wicka. I'm gonna make that up. It's

548
00:32:10.119 --> 00:32:11.440
<v Speaker 4>probably a little bit more profitable.

549
00:32:12.799 --> 00:32:15.720
<v Speaker 3>He was way too into spanking women in the forest.

550
00:32:17.480 --> 00:32:20.519
<v Speaker 4>He's he's he's like, we can't do that in the

551
00:32:20.559 --> 00:32:23.440
<v Speaker 4>hotel Gnostic Mass actually, believe it or not, I can't

552
00:32:23.440 --> 00:32:24.759
<v Speaker 4>just slap a women's asses.

553
00:32:24.799 --> 00:32:28.319
<v Speaker 2>So I'm gonna have to stop my own ship. Yeah,

554
00:32:28.359 --> 00:32:29.640
<v Speaker 2>I mean even the other thing too.

555
00:32:29.680 --> 00:32:31.119
<v Speaker 4>I mean it was he kind of made the right

556
00:32:31.200 --> 00:32:33.279
<v Speaker 4>choice because at that point, like you're still like, you know,

557
00:32:33.359 --> 00:32:35.880
<v Speaker 4>subject to like, you know, Crowley's the god in that

558
00:32:35.920 --> 00:32:38.960
<v Speaker 4>whole aura you create. Wicka, you're the god now of

559
00:32:39.000 --> 00:32:41.079
<v Speaker 4>that whole fucking thing. So you know what I'm saying,

560
00:32:41.079 --> 00:32:42.839
<v Speaker 4>instead of being under like you know, he wanted fame

561
00:32:42.880 --> 00:32:44.799
<v Speaker 4>for himself and that you know Crowley.

562
00:32:46.440 --> 00:32:49.200
<v Speaker 3>Well, they were both British government acts.

563
00:32:49.519 --> 00:32:52.920
<v Speaker 2>Probably no, they were, well I believe.

564
00:32:55.039 --> 00:32:57.319
<v Speaker 3>No, I know for a fact. So they were having

565
00:32:57.359 --> 00:33:02.200
<v Speaker 3>a problem because the the the Germans had a type

566
00:33:02.279 --> 00:33:06.759
<v Speaker 3>of map viewing that involved the pendulums, right, and so

567
00:33:06.839 --> 00:33:10.519
<v Speaker 3>they were able to actually hunt submarines using pendulum dowsing

568
00:33:10.680 --> 00:33:14.519
<v Speaker 3>on maps, and so they got Gerald Gardner to do

569
00:33:14.839 --> 00:33:20.039
<v Speaker 3>the patented code of power wick a ceremony to block

570
00:33:20.880 --> 00:33:24.559
<v Speaker 3>German dowsers from being able to see their submarines. And

571
00:33:24.640 --> 00:33:29.720
<v Speaker 3>it worked, And if you think about it, it kind

572
00:33:29.759 --> 00:33:33.319
<v Speaker 3>of makes sense. It's like, how do you block magic? Magic?

573
00:33:34.799 --> 00:33:34.960
<v Speaker 5>Yo?

574
00:33:35.359 --> 00:33:37.039
<v Speaker 4>So you get to start like you shit, like this

575
00:33:37.200 --> 00:33:39.480
<v Speaker 4>is like yo. So when like you know, uh what

576
00:33:39.720 --> 00:33:40.279
<v Speaker 4>is face?

577
00:33:40.440 --> 00:33:40.559
<v Speaker 3>Uh?

578
00:33:41.000 --> 00:33:43.680
<v Speaker 4>Jack Parsons, like you know, had that whole fiasco with

579
00:33:43.799 --> 00:33:48.000
<v Speaker 4>the boat and taking out el Aron Hubbin's boat, It's like, yo,

580
00:33:48.039 --> 00:33:50.319
<v Speaker 4>are these just retellings of the same story. Were just

581
00:33:50.400 --> 00:33:53.400
<v Speaker 4>changing the times because again, now you're going back to

582
00:33:53.559 --> 00:33:56.839
<v Speaker 4>Gardner and Crawley talking about shitting water, and then you

583
00:33:56.920 --> 00:33:58.839
<v Speaker 4>go back to Parsons and Hubbard and you're going back

584
00:33:58.880 --> 00:34:00.000
<v Speaker 4>to some fucking shit in the water.

585
00:34:00.279 --> 00:34:01.160
<v Speaker 2>Like you know, I don't know.

586
00:34:01.599 --> 00:34:04.920
<v Speaker 3>It's so recursive. All of these things have have really

587
00:34:04.960 --> 00:34:08.440
<v Speaker 3>strong ties to water and being recursive, like they play

588
00:34:08.480 --> 00:34:10.960
<v Speaker 3>out over and over again throughout history. Look at John d.

589
00:34:11.519 --> 00:34:13.880
<v Speaker 3>John Dy had a similar thing going on with mapping

590
00:34:13.920 --> 00:34:16.760
<v Speaker 3>the oceans and having these storms and shit. I mean,

591
00:34:18.320 --> 00:34:21.440
<v Speaker 3>there's a recursive element to all of these magicians having

592
00:34:21.480 --> 00:34:24.039
<v Speaker 3>to do with the Atlantic Ocean yo.

593
00:34:24.800 --> 00:34:27.679
<v Speaker 4>Edgar Gore Observations asking a good question though, he says,

594
00:34:27.760 --> 00:34:29.480
<v Speaker 4>was he spanking in the woods or was he just

595
00:34:29.519 --> 00:34:30.400
<v Speaker 4>spanking his wood?

596
00:34:31.400 --> 00:34:32.239
<v Speaker 2>Could be either one.

597
00:34:32.280 --> 00:34:36.079
<v Speaker 4>With that guy, we're gonna have to get into the

598
00:34:36.119 --> 00:34:39.559
<v Speaker 4>fivefold kiss The fivefold kisses important.

599
00:34:39.880 --> 00:34:42.400
<v Speaker 3>And then you've also got the binding rituals that they

600
00:34:42.400 --> 00:34:45.800
<v Speaker 3>would do with each other. And then you know he

601
00:34:46.039 --> 00:34:49.880
<v Speaker 3>liked to also slap women's butts, naked women's butts. That's

602
00:34:50.079 --> 00:34:53.000
<v Speaker 3>that's one of his things. That's part of these rituals

603
00:34:53.440 --> 00:34:57.679
<v Speaker 3>different degrees, and so you know he was into a

604
00:34:57.760 --> 00:35:01.960
<v Speaker 3>different esthetic. Like it still had that go oldenn Core

605
00:35:02.159 --> 00:35:06.199
<v Speaker 3>central message, right, but it was a different esthetic. So

606
00:35:06.280 --> 00:35:09.599
<v Speaker 3>instead of like, you know, being sex freaks in a church,

607
00:35:10.440 --> 00:35:11.920
<v Speaker 3>they were sex freaks in nature.

608
00:35:15.519 --> 00:35:18.599
<v Speaker 2>Picky poison, I just feel like that.

609
00:35:18.760 --> 00:35:22.480
<v Speaker 4>But so somewhere somewhere in there there's somebody who's just like,

610
00:35:22.519 --> 00:35:24.960
<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna take advantage of people so I can get laid.

611
00:35:26.639 --> 00:35:32.440
<v Speaker 3>Of course, right, if you look at Cash Battel, you

612
00:35:32.440 --> 00:35:35.760
<v Speaker 3>can kind of understand these guys. They're desperate nerds, right,

613
00:35:35.960 --> 00:35:37.679
<v Speaker 3>and now they've got a little bit of power.

614
00:35:38.480 --> 00:35:40.719
<v Speaker 2>Yo. You know that goes from Long Island too.

615
00:35:41.119 --> 00:35:45.320
<v Speaker 4>Oh man, I didn't know that until recently makes sense.

616
00:35:45.440 --> 00:35:48.880
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, this fucking idiot. I heard Jim brou was like,

617
00:35:48.920 --> 00:35:50.800
<v Speaker 4>oh yeah, you know Cash Metel. I was like all

618
00:35:50.800 --> 00:35:52.840
<v Speaker 4>excited because he's from Long Island too, and he's like,

619
00:35:52.880 --> 00:35:55.480
<v Speaker 4>I'm from Long Island. I'm like, oh man, this motherfuckers

620
00:35:55.519 --> 00:35:56.280
<v Speaker 4>from Long Island.

621
00:35:57.400 --> 00:35:57.559
<v Speaker 5>Oh.

622
00:35:57.639 --> 00:35:59.239
<v Speaker 2>I was like, God damn, I wish I would have

623
00:35:59.239 --> 00:35:59.840
<v Speaker 2>gone to school with this.

624
00:36:00.079 --> 00:36:00.480
<v Speaker 4>The fucker.

625
00:36:02.280 --> 00:36:06.519
<v Speaker 3>Unbelievable dude. He's suing a guy for five million dollars. Well,

626
00:36:06.960 --> 00:36:08.440
<v Speaker 3>his critic friend.

627
00:36:08.320 --> 00:36:10.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I saw that she should.

628
00:36:10.239 --> 00:36:13.239
<v Speaker 3>He put out a fucking picture that he didn't say

629
00:36:13.239 --> 00:36:16.159
<v Speaker 3>anything about the picture, but he just put out the picture,

630
00:36:16.159 --> 00:36:18.079
<v Speaker 3>and they're they're gonna try and sue him for five

631
00:36:18.119 --> 00:36:19.559
<v Speaker 3>million dollars for thought crime.

632
00:36:20.760 --> 00:36:24.559
<v Speaker 4>Unreal, Yo, if that went through, that would be such censorship,

633
00:36:24.960 --> 00:36:26.159
<v Speaker 4>Like we'd be fucked.

634
00:36:27.800 --> 00:36:30.519
<v Speaker 3>They already got a billion dollars out of Alex Jeraldes.

635
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<v Speaker 3>What won't they do they suit him for seven hundred

636
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<v Speaker 3>and twenty million dollars. Give me a break. There's no

637
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<v Speaker 3>way he has that kind of money.

638
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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. You look at some of his videos.

639
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<v Speaker 4>This guy looks like he's on a boat off the

640
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<v Speaker 4>Amafi coast, fucking you know, telling people that you know,

641
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<v Speaker 4>fucking Trump's you know, gonna save us.

642
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<v Speaker 3>Though, well he gets a lot of he gets a

643
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<v Speaker 3>lot of celebrities in orbit, right, they think always edgy

644
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<v Speaker 3>and cool and stuff, but then you know it turns

645
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<v Speaker 3>out to.

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<v Speaker 4>Do He got ke, Yeah, yeah, yeah, call about Jones.

647
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<v Speaker 4>He's got some good coke. Just haven't come over and

648
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<v Speaker 4>hang out for a while. Stuff at April with this.

649
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<v Speaker 3>Jeez, I wouldn't be surprised at all that guy's off

650
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<v Speaker 3>the wall. But uh I did get to see him

651
00:37:16.679 --> 00:37:21.000
<v Speaker 3>once in person, did you In two thousand and eight? Yeah,

652
00:37:21.079 --> 00:37:24.039
<v Speaker 3>in two thousand and eight, there was a Builderberg convention

653
00:37:24.760 --> 00:37:27.880
<v Speaker 3>really close to where I used to live, and so

654
00:37:27.960 --> 00:37:30.119
<v Speaker 3>I went out there and he was out there protesting,

655
00:37:30.159 --> 00:37:32.840
<v Speaker 3>and so we were out there for like three days

656
00:37:34.119 --> 00:37:37.480
<v Speaker 3>protesting the Builderberg meeting, and uh my ex wife got

657
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<v Speaker 3>a picture of MASAD agents holding their guns at the

658
00:37:41.920 --> 00:37:47.559
<v Speaker 3>ready as they were going into the compound. MASAD agents

659
00:37:47.800 --> 00:37:50.679
<v Speaker 3>with their guns at the ready, ready to shoot Americans

660
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<v Speaker 3>because we're exposing the illegal activities that they're doing.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, that is a that's always fun, yeah, right, The fuck,

662
00:38:04.559 --> 00:38:07.679
<v Speaker 1>it's just like all sorts of twisted, fucked up shouldn't

663
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<v Speaker 1>be happening.

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<v Speaker 3>If you want to see the video, I took a

665
00:38:10.039 --> 00:38:12.519
<v Speaker 3>video of it. You can look up Buildingberg two thousand

666
00:38:12.519 --> 00:38:15.559
<v Speaker 3>and eight, Color of Law. It's still up on YouTube.

667
00:38:15.719 --> 00:38:18.639
<v Speaker 2>So you have on American soil enforcing laws.

668
00:38:20.079 --> 00:38:24.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's just enforcing policies. These aren't laws. They had

669
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<v Speaker 3>to be passed by Congress. They're actually breaking the law.

670
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<v Speaker 2>It's just enforcing what they want.

671
00:38:31.280 --> 00:38:34.440
<v Speaker 3>Just holding guns out today.

672
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<v Speaker 2>Right, Well, Cope was feeling cute for going to be

673
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<v Speaker 2>a fascist.

674
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<v Speaker 3>But that was the last time that they actually went

675
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<v Speaker 3>to Virginia because there was such a press push to

676
00:38:46.599 --> 00:38:49.119
<v Speaker 3>you know, try and see who's showing up because you know,

677
00:38:49.199 --> 00:38:53.320
<v Speaker 3>the membership list didn't used to be published. So we

678
00:38:53.320 --> 00:38:56.079
<v Speaker 3>were out there before they started publishing their membership list

679
00:38:56.360 --> 00:38:58.559
<v Speaker 3>trying to get the people on cameras they were coming

680
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<v Speaker 3>in and out of the place. Want to let people

681
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<v Speaker 3>know who was actually coming in and out. So they

682
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<v Speaker 3>had a real problem with us standing out there trying

683
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<v Speaker 3>to get their pictures, but we got their pictures, so

684
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<v Speaker 3>fucked down.

685
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<v Speaker 2>Good good for you.

686
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<v Speaker 3>All right man, Well this has been another good guys.

687
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<v Speaker 2>Are you going to start that seven seven seven soon

688
00:39:20.760 --> 00:39:21.760
<v Speaker 2>that to put you on the spot.

689
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<v Speaker 3>Sure, we're going to do that next week after after

690
00:39:24.760 --> 00:39:25.400
<v Speaker 3>we got done with.

691
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, I just didn't want to.

692
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<v Speaker 4>I just I didn't want to put you on the

693
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<v Speaker 4>spots spot and actually you know tell you that they

694
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<v Speaker 4>we're supposed to do it. Yeah, I think next week.

695
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<v Speaker 4>I think next week as far as I know. If

696
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<v Speaker 4>not next week, something happens the weekends. But but next week, should.

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<v Speaker 2>You have the book on? You actually have the physical book?

698
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Man, I've been flashing another time we bring it up.

699
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<v Speaker 4>That's what I thought, right, Oh fuck yes, thank god

700
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<v Speaker 4>because I was like thinking, I was like, I have

701
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<v Speaker 4>the physical book, and if he finds the PDF, it

702
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<v Speaker 4>could be off.

703
00:39:52.119 --> 00:39:54.280
<v Speaker 2>Sometimes I've seen that that's happened on Jewels Show.

704
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<v Speaker 4>Actually we'll be using different PDFs and they'll be off,

705
00:39:57.960 --> 00:40:00.760
<v Speaker 4>which is so weird because how does that happen? Is

706
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<v Speaker 4>it like different editions? It just how does it?

707
00:40:03.719 --> 00:40:07.079
<v Speaker 3>Different translation for the Golden Ass so like one was

708
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<v Speaker 3>a translation from one guy from Latin and then the

709
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<v Speaker 3>other guy and so it's all mixed up.

710
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<v Speaker 2>We had like mainly p hole that like wasn't like

711
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<v Speaker 2>matching up.

712
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<v Speaker 4>We're like, what the fuck was these different editions or

713
00:40:17.239 --> 00:40:21.480
<v Speaker 4>just like fucked up copies of a legal pdf. But yeah, yeah,

714
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<v Speaker 4>we'll be doing that next week. That's awesome. Yeah, so

715
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<v Speaker 4>since we both have the book, we can start off

716
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<v Speaker 4>from the beginning will probably be you know, the introduction

717
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<v Speaker 4>obviously in Jamatria, before we even get into the actual graphs.

718
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<v Speaker 4>But yeah, I'm looking forward to that. Should be fun,

719
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<v Speaker 4>should be interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, I mean we're.

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<v Speaker 2>Going to learn. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Pete. Please let me.

722
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<v Speaker 4>People in the chat too, you know what you got

723
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<v Speaker 4>any ship to add, please hit it, you know, because

724
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<v Speaker 4>we don't know everything, and we don't you know, we

725
00:40:49.239 --> 00:40:51.880
<v Speaker 4>get like I have my own like kind of style

726
00:40:52.000 --> 00:40:53.760
<v Speaker 4>or things that I like, you know, more focused on

727
00:40:53.800 --> 00:40:56.880
<v Speaker 4>Egyptian deities. You're more focused on other you know what

728
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<v Speaker 4>I'm saying. So you know, it could be people in

729
00:41:00.239 --> 00:41:02.960
<v Speaker 4>the chat that know what's up in other areas, please

730
00:41:03.039 --> 00:41:03.320
<v Speaker 4>chime in.

731
00:41:04.679 --> 00:41:06.920
<v Speaker 3>But if you guys don't know, this is the ultimate

732
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<v Speaker 3>reference guide to all of the different materials that they

733
00:41:10.719 --> 00:41:13.360
<v Speaker 3>would use in the Golden Dawn. So this is like

734
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<v Speaker 3>how you would it's a concordance.

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<v Speaker 2>Golden dorn everything. Yeah, the people in the OTU. I'm

736
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<v Speaker 2>gonna be honest.

737
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<v Speaker 4>There is witches that will even say I don't care

738
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<v Speaker 4>much for Crowley, but his seven seven seven book is

739
00:41:27.199 --> 00:41:32.199
<v Speaker 4>still the bible to spells for them. I mean it's basically,

740
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<v Speaker 4>you want any association to do any type of working,

741
00:41:35.320 --> 00:41:37.320
<v Speaker 4>you can pretty much probably pull it out of that

742
00:41:37.360 --> 00:41:38.719
<v Speaker 4>book if you understand what you're reading.

743
00:41:39.800 --> 00:41:43.960
<v Speaker 3>It's very That's really Crowley's strong suit is taking a

744
00:41:44.079 --> 00:41:47.079
<v Speaker 3>lot of different information than just packing it into one source.

745
00:41:47.119 --> 00:41:49.880
<v Speaker 3>So he'll even admit it. People try to say he's

746
00:41:50.079 --> 00:41:53.000
<v Speaker 3>a cheat or whatever, but he'll say up front, you know,

747
00:41:53.039 --> 00:41:55.039
<v Speaker 3>I'm just taking this from a bunch of different sources

748
00:41:55.079 --> 00:41:57.880
<v Speaker 3>and smashing it all the other. Yeah, that's what he's

749
00:41:57.920 --> 00:41:58.679
<v Speaker 3>good at.

750
00:41:58.920 --> 00:42:01.960
<v Speaker 4>Yeah yeah, yeah, we even got and then uh Steven

751
00:42:02.000 --> 00:42:04.760
<v Speaker 4>Skinner did a did a did something like him too.

752
00:42:05.440 --> 00:42:07.400
<v Speaker 4>I don't know if you know he is James Eshelman

753
00:42:07.519 --> 00:42:10.079
<v Speaker 4>did seven seven six and a half or something like that.

754
00:42:12.559 --> 00:42:12.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

755
00:42:12.840 --> 00:42:14.599
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so there's other people have done it, but I mean,

756
00:42:14.639 --> 00:42:17.000
<v Speaker 4>you know, uh, I think there was somebody else that

757
00:42:17.159 --> 00:42:19.280
<v Speaker 4>might have been before Crowley that did something like that.

758
00:42:19.760 --> 00:42:21.760
<v Speaker 4>I mean, maybe you can consider a Grippo, but I

759
00:42:21.760 --> 00:42:24.880
<v Speaker 4>mean that's I don't know, it's.

760
00:42:24.639 --> 00:42:29.000
<v Speaker 3>Close, but I think there's a lot of Agrippa. There's

761
00:42:29.039 --> 00:42:30.800
<v Speaker 3>a lot of a gripping influence right there.

762
00:42:30.920 --> 00:42:36.360
<v Speaker 4>Oh for sure, for sure, Yeah, definitely, Yeah, we got

763
00:42:36.360 --> 00:42:37.039
<v Speaker 4>a lot of good stuff.

764
00:42:37.079 --> 00:42:41.119
<v Speaker 3>Cause absolutely if you want to get into the nitty

765
00:42:41.159 --> 00:42:44.039
<v Speaker 3>gritty of how to really craft a good spell, you

766
00:42:44.119 --> 00:42:45.719
<v Speaker 3>got to get into seven seven seven.

767
00:42:46.400 --> 00:42:48.840
<v Speaker 2>Oh. Flower even said thank you got that book last week?

768
00:42:50.480 --> 00:42:50.920
<v Speaker 3>Awesome.

769
00:42:51.000 --> 00:42:53.559
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean listen for the most part, just real quick.

770
00:42:53.599 --> 00:42:54.960
<v Speaker 4>People who if you don't have the book, you can

771
00:42:55.000 --> 00:42:56.800
<v Speaker 4>probably pull up the PDF. Like I said, it might

772
00:42:56.840 --> 00:42:58.840
<v Speaker 4>be off, but I mean, you know whatever, if you

773
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<v Speaker 4>don't want to pay for the book to pef, I'm

774
00:43:00.400 --> 00:43:02.639
<v Speaker 4>sure will be just asifying following us along.

775
00:43:02.719 --> 00:43:05.119
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, if you can get the book to grab it,

776
00:43:05.440 --> 00:43:06.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, so.

777
00:43:08.639 --> 00:43:12.280
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, And I got Alchemy Monday coming up. Should having

778
00:43:12.800 --> 00:43:16.559
<v Speaker 3>have the tubing by then, and we'll run that socks

779
00:43:16.599 --> 00:43:19.679
<v Speaker 3>of it again. It seemed that was a pretty popular episode.

780
00:43:19.920 --> 00:43:21.679
<v Speaker 3>We're gonna have to get some of the other herbs

781
00:43:21.679 --> 00:43:24.679
<v Speaker 3>and stuff because I've got an idea and I might

782
00:43:24.679 --> 00:43:27.559
<v Speaker 3>be able to build something that'll take this whole thing

783
00:43:27.599 --> 00:43:29.880
<v Speaker 3>to the next level. What if we put a frequency

784
00:43:29.960 --> 00:43:32.599
<v Speaker 3>generator next to the socks, a line extractor, So now

785
00:43:32.599 --> 00:43:41.480
<v Speaker 3>you're charging the liquid with the frequencies from the frequency generator. Right,

786
00:43:41.639 --> 00:43:44.480
<v Speaker 3>You're actually creating a different association.

787
00:43:44.719 --> 00:43:51.079
<v Speaker 4>Right, You'll be making something completely new technically, right, So.

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<v Speaker 3>It's gonna be interesting. We're gonna check that out and

789
00:43:54.400 --> 00:43:58.039
<v Speaker 3>keep with us, share it around like the video. Definitely

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<v Speaker 3>hit the bell button and we'll see you again next time.
