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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Nightmare USA Podcast. Using Stephen Thrower's home

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<v Speaker 1>as our road map, join us as we explore the

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<v Speaker 1>underbelly of America, one regional horror film at a time.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Adam, I'm Sam.

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<v Speaker 1>In our second episode, Sam's claiming home field advantage as

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<v Speaker 1>we discussed Georgia Mahra's fourth feature film, The Crazies, A small.

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<v Speaker 3>Town becomes a giant stockade. Evans City must be contained

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<v Speaker 3>or levels. We're all concerned with Evans City, mister Hawks,

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<v Speaker 3>If we have to push the bone, would you say that.

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<v Speaker 2>Webon went off?

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<v Speaker 3>Can't be the President? Three thousand, six hundred and fourteen

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<v Speaker 3>people are trapped by an unknown enemy. Five are on

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<v Speaker 3>the run. Can they escape the spreading fury of the crazy?

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<v Speaker 1>While Ramera is very much considered a horror director, he

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<v Speaker 1>did not seem too interest in being pigeon hold as such.

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<v Speaker 1>After bursting onto the cinematic scene in nineteen sixty eight

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<v Speaker 1>with Knight of the Living Dead, Ramera took how can

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<v Speaker 1>we say It? The road Less Traveled, opting to direct

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<v Speaker 1>There's Always Vanilla, which they tell me is a rom comm.

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<v Speaker 1>Although I've never seen it myself. Maybe I'll watch it

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<v Speaker 1>when we get around to Martin, But I did watch

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<v Speaker 1>his third film for the first time, Season of the

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<v Speaker 1>Witch aka Jack's Wife aka Hungry Wives. While this film

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<v Speaker 1>may be considered a tangential horror film, it's really more

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<v Speaker 1>interested in exploring the melancholia of a housewife who's dedicated

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<v Speaker 1>her life to her family and only to find herself lonely,

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<v Speaker 1>even if she's never really alone. The Crazies brings Ramire

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<v Speaker 1>closer to his horror roots, but again, this film has

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<v Speaker 1>more in its mind than just thrills and chills. Film

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<v Speaker 1>toward the end of the conflict in Vietnam, The Crazies

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<v Speaker 1>exposes the failures within government bureaucracy as well as the

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<v Speaker 1>potential dangers that can occur when martial law is enforced.

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<v Speaker 1>The Crazies was another box office failure for Romero. A

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<v Speaker 1>twenty ten remake as well as audiences discovering the film

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<v Speaker 1>in a post COVID world has resulted in some revisionist history. Sam,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the first movie you wanted to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>on this podcast. Tell us why The Crazies means so

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<v Speaker 1>much to you.

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<v Speaker 2>I am from Elwood City, PA, and it is about

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<v Speaker 2>thirteen miles from evan City, PA. And so I drove

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<v Speaker 2>through Evan City all the time as a kid. We

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<v Speaker 2>went to church out by there, so Evan City is

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<v Speaker 2>pretty much my home. As I saw the Crazies as

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<v Speaker 2>a kid, it was terrifying because these were things that

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<v Speaker 2>I had seen every day, you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>the same cornfields that I saw in the same like

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<v Speaker 2>small town. Suddenly to see it taken over by soldiers

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<v Speaker 2>is very terrifying, especially when you're young. Even more terrifying

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<v Speaker 2>was when Dawn came out because we shocked at min

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<v Speaker 2>Reubill maul. I also love this movie because when I

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<v Speaker 2>first saw the pictures of it in magazines as a kid,

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<v Speaker 2>I always thought that the bad guys were the government

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<v Speaker 2>troops were you know, because the poster has them on it.

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<v Speaker 2>But then you realize, like, there ain't no good guy,

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<v Speaker 2>there ain't no bad guy, there's just you at in

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<v Speaker 2>this movie, like everybody, there's failures on every side. And

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<v Speaker 2>I think, like you mentioned the COVID ties and tie

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<v Speaker 2>into this, I think it's even more prescient as we

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<v Speaker 2>got into like Love Canal in seventy eight, and definitely

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<v Speaker 2>for Pennsylvania, three Mile Island was a big deal to

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<v Speaker 2>us because it was about two miles three hundred miles away.

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<v Speaker 2>But still, you know, if that accident happened, we were

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<v Speaker 2>pretty much in its path. That this is very early

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<v Speaker 2>for that. And also the war had come home with

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<v Speaker 2>the Vietnam War, it was on the news every night

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<v Speaker 2>that this feels like kind of what people were seeing

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<v Speaker 2>on the news around this time. But the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>the soldiers could attack American citizens, especially post you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the Chicago riots and a lot of the things that

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<v Speaker 2>happened in the sixties, this doesn't feel like an alien

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<v Speaker 2>thing that could happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Sure, you saw a lot of civil unrest there

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of the sixties that kind of led

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<v Speaker 1>over into the to the seventies. So yeah, it didn't

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<v Speaker 1>seem out of the not out of ordinary, but out

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<v Speaker 1>of the realm of possibility for sure, for the government

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<v Speaker 1>to take over this way, I would think.

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<v Speaker 2>It feels too like unlike Knight, which has very you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they talk about what caused the plague, that it's a

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<v Speaker 2>Jupiter probe, but by the time we get to down,

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<v Speaker 2>nobody's really sure how this happened, do you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I mean? They're like, is it Hell's full? Is it

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<v Speaker 2>the Jupiter probe. Is it a disease? Is it like?

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<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of theories that come up. And the

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<v Speaker 2>scenes in Down that are most fascinating to me are

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<v Speaker 2>the scenes in the newsroom where nobody knows what's going

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<v Speaker 2>on during COVID. Those scenes were even more terrifying because

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<v Speaker 2>they were very similar to what press conferences were like

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<v Speaker 2>during it. So this movie feels like it's kind of

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<v Speaker 2>leading into what Don's going to be, but we have

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<v Speaker 2>very fixed, definite reasons why this is happening. Code named

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<v Speaker 2>Tricksy to the alternate title of this movie that I offer,

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<v Speaker 2>refer to this movie as that instead of The Craziest.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's my first note on here. I just sid

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<v Speaker 1>could name Trixing, But because I like that, I like

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<v Speaker 1>that better.

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<v Speaker 2>I think, Yeah, it seems like it's like The Crazies

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<v Speaker 2>is like, oh, someone's I get it right, it describes

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<v Speaker 2>what happens, but codemn Tricksy's like, oh that's what is

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<v Speaker 2>that like?

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<v Speaker 1>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>That's kind of fascinating.

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<v Speaker 1>It ties it more into the the reasoning behind what's

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<v Speaker 1>going on of the I guess there's some sort of

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<v Speaker 1>biological weapons that's gotten loose into this town, and.

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<v Speaker 2>This feels like something that whereas like Night and Dawn,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess they could happen, right, this movie feels like

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred percent could happen, and I'm shocked that it didn't,

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<v Speaker 2>especially knowing there were a lot of incidents where you know,

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<v Speaker 2>things almost got released. Plus we have like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the government experimenting of people like the Tuscany airmen and

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<v Speaker 2>a few other things. And there was one thing in

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<v Speaker 2>uh actually in Pennsylvania where the government tested flu and

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<v Speaker 2>how far it would travel based on our high system

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<v Speaker 2>by dosing people on the PA Turnpike as they went

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<v Speaker 2>towards Ohio the track and see how far flu could

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<v Speaker 2>be carried. So the fact that this happened, like I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sure Rameiro was aware of these things also, as you

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<v Speaker 2>can tell from his movies, not a big fan of

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<v Speaker 2>the government, So you know this movie ties into that too.

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<v Speaker 1>So I guess, and I alluded to this in the intro,

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, kind of how did we get here?

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't seen there's always been Lela? What do he is?

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<v Speaker 1>That a weird going from night to living? Did there's

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<v Speaker 1>always been Ala? I mean, I understand not wanting to

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<v Speaker 1>feel like Okay, I'm a horror director. I was trying

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<v Speaker 1>to think of what's an example of someone else who's

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<v Speaker 1>pivoted so hard from horror to to that, And I

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<v Speaker 1>really couldn't think of any sort of comp.

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<v Speaker 2>Argento did because after Bird he did what the Four Days,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's kind of like a comp I always think

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<v Speaker 2>of Romero and Orgento somewhat tangribally tied together from working

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<v Speaker 2>on Down and lives together. Also, there's a DiPalma did

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<v Speaker 2>like uh, but uh, he did a few comedy once

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<v Speaker 2>early in his career at Collo Mom and a few

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<v Speaker 2>other ones that like don't always tie into, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>what he's known for. So I think Rameira wanted to get,

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<v Speaker 2>especially this time of the world, like what we don't

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<v Speaker 2>realize today is genre fans or horror fans or whatever

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<v Speaker 2>label we want to give ourselves. Horror movies were the

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<v Speaker 2>ghetto of movies, do you know what I mean? This

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<v Speaker 2>is not what he wanted to be involved in. And uh,

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<v Speaker 2>there's always been how it does very much feel like

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<v Speaker 2>a movie of its time, but also like you're kind

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<v Speaker 2>of nascent New Hollywood, but there's not any character that

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<v Speaker 2>you will like in that movie, like it actually outright, like,

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<v Speaker 2>I hate some of them.

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<v Speaker 1>What's that movie about? I don't like? I didn't even

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<v Speaker 1>look at I contemplated, what that's as far.

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<v Speaker 2>As I got. I said, should I watch it?

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<v Speaker 1>And I didn't. I said, you know it is June's

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<v Speaker 1>Ploitation and one of the Catys this year is Georgi Romero.

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<v Speaker 1>And I said, well, I'm going to opt for a

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<v Speaker 1>season of The Witch because I had not seen that

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<v Speaker 1>one before. I think that made the right choice, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So what what's there's always been ala? What is that about?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Ramo said it was a total mess. That's what

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<v Speaker 2>he referred to it as also known as the Affair.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's kind of like this guy Chris. He comes

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<v Speaker 2>back to Pittsburgh from college. His dad owns a baby

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<v Speaker 2>food factory. He always wanted his son to work in

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<v Speaker 2>the baby food factory, but he's a drifter and he

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't want to like have the day after day after

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<v Speaker 2>day a job that his dad does. And he says,

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<v Speaker 2>he's been gone for three years and his dad's still

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<v Speaker 2>in the same bar. He's still drinking the same shot

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<v Speaker 2>in a beer boiler maker is the drink of choice

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<v Speaker 2>in a Pittsburgh, bar uh, And you know, he meets

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<v Speaker 2>this old girlfriend whose name's Terry Terrific, which is ridiculous, right,

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<v Speaker 2>But it's like and just everything in Pittsburgh is just

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<v Speaker 2>deadly to him, and he doesn't want to stay there

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<v Speaker 2>and he's trying to figure out how to g away.

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<v Speaker 2>But almost he's like very much like a narcissist, where

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<v Speaker 2>like every relationship ship is in he destroys and like

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<v Speaker 2>is he the not the tailor swiftest? But is he

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<v Speaker 2>the problem? Yes? He is, do you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>And like at the end, his father says to him,

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<v Speaker 2>the problem is you want to sample all these different flavors,

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<v Speaker 2>because he finds out that he and his father are

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<v Speaker 2>both trying to sleep with the same woman at some point,

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<v Speaker 2>even though his dad's married. And it's like this is

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<v Speaker 2>where he learns that his dad had a different life

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<v Speaker 2>than he realized. And his dad's like, you know, there's

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<v Speaker 2>all these flavors of ice cream, but eventually realize there's

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<v Speaker 2>always vanilla, so you just settle. And it's like, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if that's the message I want to take

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<v Speaker 2>out of this versus, Like I think like Jack's Wife

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<v Speaker 2>or season of The Witch is great, Like it's very

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<v Speaker 2>much like an f shallow where it feels like you

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<v Speaker 2>could watch that and a strange perfume of the woman

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<v Speaker 2>in black or a lizard in a woman's skin. It

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<v Speaker 2>feels like it fits into those movies. And I like

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<v Speaker 2>the fact that she's exchanging like Witchcraft for having a husband,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's just like she's always going to be Jack's wife.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I've I've loved that movie, Like I've watched it

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<v Speaker 2>several times, and I think that that's like his like

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<v Speaker 2>hidden movie that's really good.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I really liked it, and it really came at

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<v Speaker 1>the right time for me, probably because our youngest daughter

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<v Speaker 1>just graduated college and she got married two weeks later,

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<v Speaker 1>last month. So we're entering a new season of our

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<v Speaker 1>life of kind of empty nesters. So and that's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of where that character is, where she's devoted her life

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<v Speaker 1>to her family and her I think the daughter's like

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen and she's kind of doing her own thing, and

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<v Speaker 1>the husband's always been doing his own thing anyway of work,

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<v Speaker 1>then I hope she doesn't turn to witchcraft, which because

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<v Speaker 1>although I did find an interest and that she becomes

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<v Speaker 1>witchcraft cult. Covent coven or coven. However you want to

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<v Speaker 2>You say it that way, that's how you should say it, all.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, So she's still tethered, you know, she traded in

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<v Speaker 1>her chain for a red tether of some sort to

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<v Speaker 1>this cult. So, uh yeah, I really loved that movie.

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<v Speaker 2>atom smasher and when the Westinghouse lab closed down, they

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<v Speaker 2>It's just like laying on the crowned like and they

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<v Speaker 2>that time. And I also am fascinated by the late

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<v Speaker 2>sixties early seventies where it was cool to be into

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<v Speaker 2>witchcraft and the Church of Satan was getting really big

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<v Speaker 2>and there was this like a cult energy that came

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<v Speaker 2>and then within the next eight years the Satanic Panic happens.

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<v Speaker 2>So it feels strange that like it would completely shift

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<v Speaker 2>what a movie like Season the Witch would be like

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<v Speaker 2>if it came out like eighty or eighty one, it

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<v Speaker 2>would be you know, maybe Jack would be the good

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<v Speaker 2>guy and not the horrible force that leads us to this. Also,

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<v Speaker 2>that movie should be subtitled every guy in this movie

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<v Speaker 2>is horrible, Like every man in that movie is the worst.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, So just you know, good for her, isn't good

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<v Speaker 1>for her?

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe it totally is. There's a lot of crossover though

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<v Speaker 2>with the Crazies. There's a few people you know that

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<v Speaker 2>like Brewbaker in this movie is Jack, the husband from

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<v Speaker 2>season of the Witch. So and there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>the Rameiro used obviously the same crew a lot because

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<v Speaker 2>they were his same crew that worked on you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Latin Image and worked on all the commercials. What's sad

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<v Speaker 2>here is that like post this, like Rameira was like,

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<v Speaker 2>well I made three movies, now only one was successful,

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<v Speaker 2>it's went back to commercials. So his big thing after

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<v Speaker 2>this is doing The Champions, which is a ABC series

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<v Speaker 2>that profile sports stars, and that's where the OJ of

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<v Speaker 2>the Juice is loose movie that was re released whatever

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<v Speaker 2>the OJ thing happened. Also, he was shooting commercials for Caylgun,

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<v Speaker 2>which is based in my hometown of Bellwood City, said

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<v Speaker 2>the early ancient Chinese secret commercial. There's another one that

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<v Speaker 2>he and John Russa did together that's fantastic voyage. But

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<v Speaker 2>going down at toilet to clean the toilet with calgun,

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<v Speaker 2>it's really great commercial. It's really well shot. It looks beautiful,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's like still a toilet commercial. He had bigger

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<v Speaker 1>Well they had this commercials back then were so great,

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<v Speaker 1>and the one that always got me as a kid

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<v Speaker 1>was the scrubbing bubbles, and I was so disappointed whenever

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<v Speaker 1>and magically clean my bapto talk about a letdown.

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<v Speaker 2>They that's why there was that rule that eventually young

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<v Speaker 2>kids commercials could not be animated because a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>times they would animate the toy so it seemed that

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<v Speaker 2>it was coming alive and kids would be like, why

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<v Speaker 2>didn't I get this? They start crying. Their parents were like,

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<v Speaker 2>you've ruined my kids. You're driving me crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you would see disclaimers at the bottom, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>not actual toy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, toy does not really move. Some persons require my favorite,

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<v Speaker 2>some poses require hand support. No ship figures out could

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<v Speaker 1>Now we get some of this is AI created. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know I've seen this to clin disclaimer lately on

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<v Speaker 1>commercials for the for anything to uses AI. I guess we've.

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<v Speaker 2>Been getting this commercial and hopefully nobody else listening to

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<v Speaker 2>this or you Adam have got this commercial. But it

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<v Speaker 2>is for a cleaning service in my small hometown of

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<v Speaker 2>Minoga Hala that I live in now. And it's an

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<v Speaker 2>Ai old woman and someone's cleaning around her and she's like,

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<v Speaker 2>I've lived in, I've lived in and then Monoga Hala,

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<v Speaker 2>do you know what I mean? Like that? Right? Literally

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<v Speaker 2>like that? And uh and she's like, and if you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and she says the name of the place and she

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<v Speaker 2>says it wrong because Pittsburgh glass names are hard to say.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's like this town is so small, of like

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<v Speaker 2>maybe three thousand people. Everybody knows everybody. Of course I

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<v Speaker 2>know who this cleaning company is. Of course I know

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<v Speaker 2>they couldn't afford this budget. What is going on? It

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<v Speaker 2>literally pushed not that I need a cleaning crew, because

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<v Speaker 2>that's my job. You know, my wife has I'm the

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<v Speaker 2>toilet cleaner, but you're the scrubbing bubble. I'm the scrubbing bubble.

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<v Speaker 2>But uh, that's what. If this was a video podcast

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<v Speaker 2>right now, Super would come up and say, Sam scrubbing

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<v Speaker 2>bubble Panica. But like it's so disingenuous and weird. Anyways, Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>I am excited. I'm excited to talk about The Crazies

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<v Speaker 2>with you because this is a movie that very few

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<v Speaker 2>people talk about and get excited about, so like especially

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<v Speaker 2>because I think when I was younger it was seen

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<v Speaker 2>as like a lesser version of Dawn and Night, and

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<v Speaker 2>I don't agree with that. I think it stands. It's

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<v Speaker 2>an equal to those and it's not like a sequel

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<v Speaker 2>or like it has elements of it, but much like

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<v Speaker 2>Nightmare City, right, what's that on? These are the infected.

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<v Speaker 2>They're not zombies. They're infected, like, these aren't zombies.

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<v Speaker 1>So where do you want to start with with the Crazies.

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<v Speaker 1>I first watched this film back in twenty twenty one,

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<v Speaker 1>so it was post COVID or really still in the

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<v Speaker 1>midst of COVID, which so I found a very interesting

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<v Speaker 1>with all the government inefficiencies. Will then nice way to

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<v Speaker 1>say it, and then I'll watch it again here, and

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<v Speaker 1>then I watched it with the commentary.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think the interesting thing is this right from

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<v Speaker 2>the beginning inverts Night, where like Night starts with you know,

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<v Speaker 2>a child or well in the middle of it, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Kiro's character kind of rises up and kills her parents

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<v Speaker 2>and actually what's crazy is this is how how yins

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<v Speaker 2>or Pittsburgh is to drive in. Someone brought the troal,

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<v Speaker 2>the actual trowal like signed by her and had it

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<v Speaker 2>like on the table, and everybody came up and looked

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<v Speaker 2>at the trowel. They killed the parents in night. But

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<v Speaker 2>this starts with parents killing their children, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>that's a theme that really comes up a lot in

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<v Speaker 2>like late sixties, early seventies. If you think about that

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<v Speaker 2>scene in the one story in The Illustrated Man where

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<v Speaker 2>the parents think that nuclear war is going to happen,

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<v Speaker 2>so they kill their children and that turns out the

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<v Speaker 2>word doesn't happen. Is this ripped off by the myths

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<v Speaker 2>by Stephen King and Stephen King ever ripped off other stories? Short?

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, I will say I did immediately go reach

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<v Speaker 1>from my book of the Sweetest Taboo, written by friend

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<v Speaker 1>Erica Schultz, who covers all the child kills. It's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I know this is in there. Yes, she of course

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<v Speaker 1>includes it and the sequel, and she likes this film

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<v Speaker 1>much better than the sequel, and we'll get into the

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<v Speaker 1>sequel later.

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<v Speaker 2>But if she liked the sequel, I'd be like, is

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<v Speaker 2>she been pod person? Replaced, because I know anytime I

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<v Speaker 2>write her about a movie that I saw with the

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<v Speaker 2>childkill from anywhere past, like nineteen ninety, she's like, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't have to watch this fucking movie. I'm I guess

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<v Speaker 2>you were. Well.

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<v Speaker 1>I know that's why I felt because I saw it

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<v Speaker 1>a lot. I don't know child kills are coming back

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<v Speaker 1>in style or something, because I kept fine. I kept

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<v Speaker 1>seeing them, Like the New Silent Night Deadly Night remake

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<v Speaker 1>had one, and I said, I apologize in advance for you,

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<v Speaker 1>because I mean, I kind of liked that film for

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<v Speaker 1>what it is. I knew that she would hate it,

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<v Speaker 1>and she did hate it, and yeah, a few other ones.

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<v Speaker 2>I've seen them, like I'm sorry, she should just write

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<v Speaker 2>a book about like the Roger Rubert one that I

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<v Speaker 2>hated this film. Like when I see stuff the New

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<v Speaker 2>Faces to Death, my first thought is not I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>hate this movie. My first thought is Eric's gonna hate

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<v Speaker 2>this movie even more than me, Like this is like

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<v Speaker 2>it's like a target audience of hatred, and they like,

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<v Speaker 2>let's put a child killing. So she comes to a movie.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to remember if that one had a child

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<v Speaker 1>I watched it. I did I did kind of like it,

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<v Speaker 1>to be honest, with the new one, I gain for

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<v Speaker 1>what it is. For what it is, It's not anything

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<v Speaker 1>at all like the original one, of course, but it

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<v Speaker 1>was a decent time. It was kind of like Dexter

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<v Speaker 1>really if it's kind of had that vibe about it.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't know, I keep putting For the newer movies.

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<v Speaker 1>I just put the bar on the floor or maybe

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<v Speaker 1>under the floor, joists as low as it can go,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I find myself maybe try to be pleasantly surprised.

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<v Speaker 2>I hate when people send me fake memos of stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>like some one set me once that an Aubry was

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<v Speaker 2>being remade by Rob Zombie, and I was like, don't

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<v Speaker 2>don't even make a joke about that, right, Like it's

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<v Speaker 2>all so as a horn nerd, I'm sure you do

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<v Speaker 2>the same thing. I was on the plane that we

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<v Speaker 2>were just talking about. I had a business trip this week,

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<v Speaker 2>and as I was getting up from the plane to

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<v Speaker 2>get my bag, there was somebody sleeping and they had

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<v Speaker 2>a Tenabera shirt on, and I'm like, I should really

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<v Speaker 2>wake that guy up and we should be best friends.

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<v Speaker 2>But then I'm like, no, I'd like, you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't look I still look like a horn nerd, but

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<v Speaker 2>you know at the time and I'm like, fuck that

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<v Speaker 2>guy and are going to be the best of friends.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, anyways, I think the interesting thing here this

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<v Speaker 2>really picks up something about western Pennsylvania if you didn't

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<v Speaker 2>pick it up from Night. The most Pittsburgh Western Pa

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<v Speaker 2>thing about Night is the minute does zombie start attacking

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<v Speaker 2>nobody fort to fives or saves their family, they go hunting,

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<v Speaker 2>and like there's that scene where it's in both there's

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<v Speaker 2>one in the beginning of Dawn where everybody's crushing iron

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<v Speaker 2>cities and they're out in Butler somewhere shooting zombies. Romero

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<v Speaker 2>gets Western Pennsylvania. That's exactly where would happen. Like we there,

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<v Speaker 2>militia guys have been wanting to kill you beings for

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<v Speaker 2>a while and have been stuck with deer, and now

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<v Speaker 2>it's like, once that happens, Eric, let's go.

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<v Speaker 1>I do have a note about this because I wrote

417
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<v Speaker 1>define what a redneck is? I think they they do.

418
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<v Speaker 1>They mention the term redneck, and for me, I mean

419
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<v Speaker 1>from the South, that's just a very common you just

420
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<v Speaker 1>think redneck is from the South, and I've never really

421
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<v Speaker 1>thought about it being outside the South.

422
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<v Speaker 2>I've it's funny because we did call people that were

423
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<v Speaker 2>farmers and stuff for rednecks, because obviously, I guess the

424
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<v Speaker 2>term comes from you know, you're.

425
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<v Speaker 1>Out in the sun, so right, or the red neck.

426
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And like there is a phrase in Pittsburgh, Pennsivania

427
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<v Speaker 2>called pennsyl Tucky where it's like literally other than maybe

428
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<v Speaker 2>maybe eerie, but Philadelphia and Pittsburgh everything in between may

429
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<v Speaker 2>as well be the most Bucolic rural thing in rural Okay, yeah,

430
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<v Speaker 2>real yeah, And like, uh, it's weird because I so,

431
00:23:02.799 --> 00:23:05.240
<v Speaker 2>I was just in Alabama for a week. I see

432
00:23:05.279 --> 00:23:08.039
<v Speaker 2>more rebel flags in Western PA than I saw the

433
00:23:08.200 --> 00:23:10.799
<v Speaker 2>entire time I was in Alabama and Georgia. Like my

434
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<v Speaker 2>one of my neighbors when he opens his door, he

435
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<v Speaker 2>has a huge one. He's an Italian kid, like you

436
00:23:16.720 --> 00:23:18.880
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean, Like he's there's nothing to him

437
00:23:18.880 --> 00:23:20.640
<v Speaker 2>that was suggesting. So I'm like, you know that we

438
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<v Speaker 2>were on the other side of the War of Northern Aggression.

439
00:23:23.480 --> 00:23:26.559
<v Speaker 2>It's they call it, like let's I don't know what's

440
00:23:26.599 --> 00:23:28.920
<v Speaker 2>going on, but see, yeah, like that feeling of like

441
00:23:29.000 --> 00:23:31.880
<v Speaker 2>the redneck ism. There are rednecks in Western PA. Most

442
00:23:32.079 --> 00:23:33.319
<v Speaker 2>most cities here are.

443
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<v Speaker 1>Okay, whenever this the high school that all three of

444
00:23:37.720 --> 00:23:41.680
<v Speaker 1>my kids graduated from. Their mascot was the Rebels, and

445
00:23:41.720 --> 00:23:44.440
<v Speaker 1>it was a Confederate soldier was the mascot.

446
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<v Speaker 2>To this day, it still is.

447
00:23:46.599 --> 00:23:50.880
<v Speaker 1>And that school was formed because people moved across the

448
00:23:51.000 --> 00:23:55.519
<v Speaker 1>river to from Alexandria to Pine Be, Louisiana, and they well,

449
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<v Speaker 1>I say, I say the people, it was a very

450
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<v Speaker 1>much white flight, moved to Pine all set up a school.

451
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<v Speaker 1>And that's what you know they wanted to be known

452
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<v Speaker 1>for is their racism, I guess. And so it's still

453
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<v Speaker 1>to this day. And so they were there was a

454
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<v Speaker 1>lot of talk at that time of changing the mascot

455
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<v Speaker 1>due to these racist connotations, and and somebody said, well,

456
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<v Speaker 1>let's just make let's make that rebel black and instead

457
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<v Speaker 1>of a like like you just saw congratulations.

458
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

459
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, as someone that just spent a week doing

460
00:24:28.839 --> 00:24:34.279
<v Speaker 2>diversity and inclusion classes, that's amazing. Uh, it's really wild.

461
00:24:34.680 --> 00:24:37.119
<v Speaker 2>Like I was thinking about it when we were doing

462
00:24:37.200 --> 00:24:39.400
<v Speaker 2>these discussions and going on all this stuff. It's like this

463
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<v Speaker 2>stuff like these schools picking mascots and uh, you know,

464
00:24:43.079 --> 00:24:45.880
<v Speaker 2>we're staying with them or making these weird choices, Like

465
00:24:46.079 --> 00:24:48.680
<v Speaker 2>it's not just in our lifetime or our parents' lifetime,

466
00:24:48.880 --> 00:24:50.920
<v Speaker 2>it's like in the last five years or the last year,

467
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<v Speaker 2>Like it's happening all the time, Like people are like,

468
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<v Speaker 2>how dare you? And also it brings to this rage

469
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<v Speaker 2>of like no one ever looked at and I'muncle Ben's

470
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<v Speaker 2>box ever forever and then suddenly like we're changing Uncle

471
00:25:04.720 --> 00:25:06.960
<v Speaker 2>Ben's are like, God damn it, these people, what are

472
00:25:07.000 --> 00:25:09.720
<v Speaker 2>you doing? Like why do you care?

473
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<v Speaker 1>Right? One thing that I saw and at the beginning

474
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<v Speaker 1>of the film, and one thing that I love we

475
00:25:17.240 --> 00:25:21.599
<v Speaker 1>talked about last episode of like childhood fears of running

476
00:25:21.640 --> 00:25:24.240
<v Speaker 1>at your car breaking down in the middle of nowhere.

477
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<v Speaker 1>And another thing that's always happens in these movies is

478
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<v Speaker 1>that people have to answer the phone, no matter what,

479
00:25:30.279 --> 00:25:33.480
<v Speaker 1>no matter what is happening that phone. If the phone rings,

480
00:25:33.480 --> 00:25:34.880
<v Speaker 1>you got to answer it. And so that kind of

481
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<v Speaker 1>happens at the beginning. There's on the other end, and

482
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<v Speaker 1>I think that's what happens at the very beginning because

483
00:25:40.880 --> 00:25:43.359
<v Speaker 1>the and again I'm terrible with character names, so you're

484
00:25:43.400 --> 00:25:48.200
<v Speaker 1>gonna have to help me out. Then the nurse character, uh,

485
00:25:48.359 --> 00:25:49.519
<v Speaker 1>she has to answer that phone.

486
00:25:50.079 --> 00:25:50.240
<v Speaker 2>Yea.

487
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<v Speaker 1>And that's how it kind of gets propelled start of like,

488
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<v Speaker 1>you know, you're gonna need to come into the office

489
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<v Speaker 1>because there's something going on.

490
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<v Speaker 2>The beginning there where the father spoils on right the spoilers,

491
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<v Speaker 2>oh way, yes, yeah, the father that kills his wife

492
00:26:04.920 --> 00:26:06.799
<v Speaker 2>and torches the house with the kids inside. It was

493
00:26:07.519 --> 00:26:10.640
<v Speaker 2>the special facts tech for the movie. And then the

494
00:26:10.759 --> 00:26:13.279
<v Speaker 2>children that are screaming in that scene are the kids

495
00:26:13.319 --> 00:26:17.119
<v Speaker 2>of s William Hensman, who is the first zombie and

496
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<v Speaker 2>Night and also made the movie Flesh Eater, which I

497
00:26:19.960 --> 00:26:21.839
<v Speaker 2>hated the first time I saw it, and now I

498
00:26:21.880 --> 00:26:23.920
<v Speaker 2>love it because I figured out the secret of Flesh Eater.

499
00:26:24.680 --> 00:26:28.200
<v Speaker 1>Flesh Eater is one that I liked as it went

500
00:26:28.480 --> 00:26:30.319
<v Speaker 1>by the end of it, I liked it. It started

501
00:26:30.359 --> 00:26:32.200
<v Speaker 1>out I really didn't care for it, and then as

502
00:26:32.200 --> 00:26:34.279
<v Speaker 1>it went on and on, I was like, oh wait,

503
00:26:34.359 --> 00:26:36.920
<v Speaker 1>I do like this. I think even to the point

504
00:26:36.920 --> 00:26:41.359
<v Speaker 1>where I had posted h the to sell my four K.

505
00:26:41.480 --> 00:26:43.920
<v Speaker 1>I think it's in four K from Benner's Syndrome, just

506
00:26:43.920 --> 00:26:46.039
<v Speaker 1>post it on eBay to sell it. Halfway through the movie.

507
00:26:46.039 --> 00:26:48.039
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, uh, I'm not keeping this, and then by

508
00:26:48.039 --> 00:26:49.640
<v Speaker 1>the end of US I took it off. I was like, no,

509
00:26:49.720 --> 00:26:50.880
<v Speaker 1>I need to keep this.

510
00:26:51.559 --> 00:26:53.920
<v Speaker 2>He he had been married for thirty five years by

511
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<v Speaker 2>that point, and if you notice, every time he attacks

512
00:26:56.480 --> 00:26:59.279
<v Speaker 2>a young girl, he like paused her breast for like

513
00:27:00.039 --> 00:27:02.359
<v Speaker 2>that did period his and I was like, certainly his

514
00:27:02.400 --> 00:27:05.640
<v Speaker 2>wife was angry. His wife was like the producer executive

515
00:27:05.640 --> 00:27:07.720
<v Speaker 2>producer with him. She was on the set all the time.

516
00:27:07.720 --> 00:27:09.599
<v Speaker 2>So I asked him about like, oh, no, they were great.

517
00:27:09.599 --> 00:27:12.119
<v Speaker 2>They had a great relationship. So I think this was

518
00:27:12.240 --> 00:27:14.480
<v Speaker 2>just his way of just you know, hey, I'm old,

519
00:27:14.960 --> 00:27:17.039
<v Speaker 2>Like let's let's do something. And once you watch it

520
00:27:17.079 --> 00:27:19.839
<v Speaker 2>through that ones, I guess it's better.

521
00:27:20.480 --> 00:27:22.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there was a lot of dead leaves. I remember, Yes,

522
00:27:22.960 --> 00:27:25.960
<v Speaker 1>welcome to Pittsburgh.

523
00:27:26.039 --> 00:27:28.880
<v Speaker 2>We have so I'm so glad we moved our houses

524
00:27:28.920 --> 00:27:31.680
<v Speaker 2>and have trees around it every other house I've ever

525
00:27:31.720 --> 00:27:34.079
<v Speaker 2>lived at in my life. Like if you're a kid

526
00:27:34.440 --> 00:27:36.960
<v Speaker 2>like you rake leaves, do you know what I mean?

527
00:27:37.039 --> 00:27:40.720
<v Speaker 2>Like Eurek leaves. Yeah, and like I'm so glad that

528
00:27:40.920 --> 00:27:42.079
<v Speaker 2>I don't have to anymore.

529
00:27:42.119 --> 00:27:44.279
<v Speaker 1>But it's that's our dream to find a house with

530
00:27:44.279 --> 00:27:47.640
<v Speaker 1>no trees because again being from a Louisana, We've had

531
00:27:47.680 --> 00:27:50.880
<v Speaker 1>we had three trees hit our house, durned hurricanes or

532
00:27:50.920 --> 00:27:54.880
<v Speaker 1>tornadoes and trees or just they are beautiful to look at.

533
00:27:54.960 --> 00:27:58.519
<v Speaker 1>And now I don't ever want to own a lot

534
00:27:58.640 --> 00:27:59.839
<v Speaker 1>with another tree on it.

535
00:27:59.839 --> 00:28:02.279
<v Speaker 2>I want to concrete every yard that I live in.

536
00:28:02.359 --> 00:28:04.279
<v Speaker 2>I just want to like, let's just burn, like nuke

537
00:28:04.279 --> 00:28:08.640
<v Speaker 2>it from orbit and then move on that house that's burning.

538
00:28:08.680 --> 00:28:13.119
<v Speaker 2>Speaking of nuking things, uh that was this happens at

539
00:28:13.119 --> 00:28:15.359
<v Speaker 2>Evan City. What they were going to knock down that

540
00:28:15.400 --> 00:28:18.160
<v Speaker 2>house anyway, and Romero was like, hey, can we set

541
00:28:18.200 --> 00:28:20.480
<v Speaker 2>this house on fire? And the fire Department's like, sure,

542
00:28:20.880 --> 00:28:24.240
<v Speaker 2>go ahead. It's totally till, no permit nothing. You're in

543
00:28:24.279 --> 00:28:28.079
<v Speaker 2>the woods like pretty much. Evan City is like very real,

544
00:28:28.319 --> 00:28:31.839
<v Speaker 2>very very rural. Uh so yeah, we start off and

545
00:28:32.519 --> 00:28:36.440
<v Speaker 2>uh we meet the Vietnam vets, David and Klank not

546
00:28:36.480 --> 00:28:39.359
<v Speaker 2>at Pittsburgh name who get to the scene. And Judy

547
00:28:39.400 --> 00:28:41.519
<v Speaker 2>who you talked about, the nurse, she's the one that

548
00:28:41.599 --> 00:28:43.839
<v Speaker 2>has to go in and treat the kids for burns

549
00:28:44.279 --> 00:28:47.400
<v Speaker 2>in the office. Meanwhile, you know, in that medical office,

550
00:28:47.440 --> 00:28:51.000
<v Speaker 2>that's where the military guys show up. And you're cono.

551
00:28:51.079 --> 00:28:54.079
<v Speaker 2>And if you're wondering, like did Romero was he influenced

552
00:28:54.079 --> 00:28:57.880
<v Speaker 2>by Kubrick the same music that the military uses in

553
00:28:57.920 --> 00:29:00.279
<v Speaker 2>this The animals went in two by two, like the

554
00:29:00.359 --> 00:29:03.400
<v Speaker 2>marching music that's the same music from Doctor Strangelove when

555
00:29:03.400 --> 00:29:06.240
<v Speaker 2>they show up. So I'm sure he was like, this

556
00:29:06.359 --> 00:29:08.799
<v Speaker 2>is is that a bad thing to say? This is

557
00:29:08.799 --> 00:29:11.799
<v Speaker 2>my Doctor Strange Love. I don't think it's like except

558
00:29:11.799 --> 00:29:14.359
<v Speaker 2>my Doctor Strange Love is an exploitation movie that you

559
00:29:14.359 --> 00:29:19.000
<v Speaker 2>know played drive ins and but you know deredor dream.

560
00:29:19.559 --> 00:29:24.160
<v Speaker 1>Then they bring in my favorite character. I did write

561
00:29:24.160 --> 00:29:27.680
<v Speaker 1>this character's name down because it's doctor Watts played France.

562
00:29:27.759 --> 00:29:30.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure you have a lot to say about him. Yeah,

563
00:29:31.039 --> 00:29:34.680
<v Speaker 1>and because he ends up in uh other Ramera movie.

564
00:29:34.680 --> 00:29:37.240
<v Speaker 1>And I have a living Dead Donna the Dead Donna

565
00:29:37.279 --> 00:29:39.400
<v Speaker 1>did I'm film I've only seen once, let me just

566
00:29:39.440 --> 00:29:43.519
<v Speaker 1>put it that way, but not that long ago. I

567
00:29:43.519 --> 00:29:46.079
<v Speaker 1>don't know why that one just slipped through and us

568
00:29:46.279 --> 00:29:48.240
<v Speaker 1>I've never seen Day of the Dead either, But.

569
00:29:48.400 --> 00:29:50.680
<v Speaker 2>You don't need to see people get mad at me

570
00:29:50.680 --> 00:29:55.480
<v Speaker 2>all the time. But like I uh, I really prefer day,

571
00:29:55.680 --> 00:30:00.559
<v Speaker 2>I mean Donna mean today. But yeah, doctor Watt Richard

572
00:30:00.599 --> 00:30:06.279
<v Speaker 2>France's character is a huge deal in uh, you know

573
00:30:06.359 --> 00:30:08.759
<v Speaker 2>in Day he's also in Night Riders, and then he

574
00:30:08.799 --> 00:30:11.079
<v Speaker 2>shows up in that like I taught the craziness in

575
00:30:11.119 --> 00:30:13.599
<v Speaker 2>the TV station and telling people where to go and

576
00:30:13.640 --> 00:30:16.240
<v Speaker 2>stuff and that. So if I as a kid, I

577
00:30:16.240 --> 00:30:19.279
<v Speaker 2>always was like, is that the same character? Obviously it's

578
00:30:19.319 --> 00:30:21.960
<v Speaker 2>not because of the end of this movie, but it

579
00:30:21.960 --> 00:30:24.440
<v Speaker 2>would be cool, Like I always being a comic book geek,

580
00:30:24.480 --> 00:30:27.440
<v Speaker 2>I wanted there to be, and I would argue there

581
00:30:27.480 --> 00:30:30.640
<v Speaker 2>is a Romero cinematic universe. You know, the same actors

582
00:30:30.640 --> 00:30:33.279
<v Speaker 2>show up in different movies. Where's Martin during all this?

583
00:30:33.319 --> 00:30:37.559
<v Speaker 2>Who can say? So?

584
00:30:37.640 --> 00:30:41.240
<v Speaker 1>He doctor Watson? He ends up there again. I guess

585
00:30:41.240 --> 00:30:46.000
<v Speaker 1>that's some mistake, a governmental bureaucracy mistake. How he ends

586
00:30:46.079 --> 00:30:49.480
<v Speaker 1>up in the front line instead of in the lab

587
00:30:49.559 --> 00:30:54.920
<v Speaker 1>somewhere trying to find the reversal agent for this biological weapon.

588
00:30:55.200 --> 00:30:58.720
<v Speaker 2>And he does. But there's numerous times in this movie

589
00:30:58.720 --> 00:31:01.680
<v Speaker 2>where I I think it's that's my favorite part of

590
00:31:01.720 --> 00:31:04.559
<v Speaker 2>this The cure is here and it gets screwed up

591
00:31:04.680 --> 00:31:06.079
<v Speaker 2>and it gets lost, do you know what I mean?

592
00:31:06.119 --> 00:31:09.279
<v Speaker 2>And it's like, man, like you guys were so close.

593
00:31:09.319 --> 00:31:13.079
<v Speaker 2>But again, through that bureaucracy, through everything, even the fact

594
00:31:13.119 --> 00:31:15.200
<v Speaker 2>that a military plane with a bio up and just

595
00:31:15.519 --> 00:31:19.640
<v Speaker 2>crashed right into the water supply, Like, you know, why

596
00:31:19.680 --> 00:31:21.960
<v Speaker 2>is it even flying over this small town in western PA?

597
00:31:22.559 --> 00:31:26.000
<v Speaker 2>You know, why would they make a drug that causes

598
00:31:26.559 --> 00:31:29.039
<v Speaker 2>the crazies? Like I get it right, Yes, it would

599
00:31:29.039 --> 00:31:30.279
<v Speaker 2>destroy cities and stuff like that.

600
00:31:30.319 --> 00:31:33.039
<v Speaker 1>But it's like, but would you ever be able to

601
00:31:33.039 --> 00:31:36.039
<v Speaker 1>contain it in the first place? Maybe would you learned?

602
00:31:36.079 --> 00:31:39.359
<v Speaker 1>Would you have the antidote or the vaccine first before

603
00:31:39.519 --> 00:31:41.000
<v Speaker 1>transporting it anywhere?

604
00:31:41.799 --> 00:31:42.759
<v Speaker 2>You would think? Right?

605
00:31:42.880 --> 00:31:44.880
<v Speaker 1>These are all unanswerable questions.

606
00:31:45.079 --> 00:31:48.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, But also I'm sure you know within your career

607
00:31:48.480 --> 00:31:51.359
<v Speaker 2>in mind, we both were, if not on the front

608
00:31:51.359 --> 00:31:54.759
<v Speaker 2>lines of COVID, supplying people with the information for it.

609
00:31:54.839 --> 00:31:59.920
<v Speaker 2>And it's like, uh, I can see like kind of

610
00:32:00.079 --> 00:32:03.480
<v Speaker 2>like why they want to contain this because you know

611
00:32:04.160 --> 00:32:07.559
<v Speaker 2>it's things can quickly and also it's like fire is

612
00:32:07.599 --> 00:32:09.240
<v Speaker 2>the same thing, Like you can't predict the way that

613
00:32:09.240 --> 00:32:11.839
<v Speaker 2>a virus is gonna beauty or do things. You can try,

614
00:32:11.880 --> 00:32:16.640
<v Speaker 2>but it's impossible. I'm not politicizing viruses, but never the

615
00:32:16.680 --> 00:32:19.880
<v Speaker 2>show will never do that. This is when I finally

616
00:32:19.880 --> 00:32:23.400
<v Speaker 2>pull my mask down, and I'm like, I'm a conspirat,

617
00:32:23.440 --> 00:32:26.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm a I am Q. And then that's that's what

618
00:32:26.440 --> 00:32:27.359
<v Speaker 2>the show's about from there on.

619
00:32:28.160 --> 00:32:30.920
<v Speaker 1>So I love the scenes where they the government comes

620
00:32:30.920 --> 00:32:34.000
<v Speaker 1>in and they start rounding everyone up in town and

621
00:32:34.559 --> 00:32:36.680
<v Speaker 1>they just kind of burst into these people's houses and

622
00:32:36.720 --> 00:32:39.240
<v Speaker 1>they get very far into these people's houses before they

623
00:32:39.279 --> 00:32:43.000
<v Speaker 1>even seem concerned. Like the guy sitting there in his recliner, Yeah,

624
00:32:43.240 --> 00:32:45.319
<v Speaker 1>two people are on each side of them. He's like, oh, wait,

625
00:32:45.359 --> 00:32:47.000
<v Speaker 1>what's going on? What's happening here?

626
00:32:49.160 --> 00:32:51.599
<v Speaker 2>And it's also like that thing that we always heard

627
00:32:51.720 --> 00:32:54.680
<v Speaker 2>right in school about, you know, the Revolutionary War, that

628
00:32:54.680 --> 00:32:57.039
<v Speaker 2>that's one of the things that didn't want soldiers being

629
00:32:57.039 --> 00:32:59.720
<v Speaker 2>put up in houses, and there's all these rules for that,

630
00:33:00.160 --> 00:33:04.039
<v Speaker 2>and like no when stuff goes wrong. This is I

631
00:33:04.039 --> 00:33:06.400
<v Speaker 2>think Rameira pretty much, And because I think the rest

632
00:33:06.400 --> 00:33:08.720
<v Speaker 2>of the world this probably doesn't feel like science fiction

633
00:33:09.079 --> 00:33:11.079
<v Speaker 2>for the time it came out, because people saw Ohio

634
00:33:11.119 --> 00:33:13.440
<v Speaker 2>State and they saw you know, men like all these

635
00:33:13.480 --> 00:33:15.640
<v Speaker 2>other riots and stuff like that, where the government was

636
00:33:15.680 --> 00:33:20.960
<v Speaker 2>doing any things. You would not expect.

637
00:33:20.440 --> 00:33:22.480
<v Speaker 1>That one guy did let that little girl get hurt.

638
00:33:22.519 --> 00:33:27.119
<v Speaker 2>All It's interesting because this is another movie like where

639
00:33:27.920 --> 00:33:30.759
<v Speaker 2>like a lot of early Rameiro movies where it's like,

640
00:33:30.799 --> 00:33:32.920
<v Speaker 2>don't fall in love with any of these characters because

641
00:33:33.759 --> 00:33:36.839
<v Speaker 2>probably nobody's making it out. I guess definitely know what is.

642
00:33:37.200 --> 00:33:40.079
<v Speaker 2>They're hiding in a country club. Sometimes Rameiro uses this

643
00:33:40.200 --> 00:33:42.240
<v Speaker 2>like people are like, oh, his movies have a subtle

644
00:33:42.279 --> 00:33:46.160
<v Speaker 2>political algory. It's not always sometimes he's got like a sledgehamdler. Right,

645
00:33:46.440 --> 00:33:48.240
<v Speaker 2>But they're hiding out in this country club. They want

646
00:33:48.279 --> 00:33:50.599
<v Speaker 2>to escape through the woods, but like to do that,

647
00:33:51.200 --> 00:33:54.359
<v Speaker 2>they have to be violent, right to overpower the soldiers.

648
00:33:54.720 --> 00:33:58.039
<v Speaker 2>So are they living up to what the crazies is

649
00:33:58.279 --> 00:34:01.000
<v Speaker 2>or is that just in dickn of the situation they're

650
00:34:01.039 --> 00:34:04.359
<v Speaker 2>in where there's confrontations when people friend against frand it's

651
00:34:04.359 --> 00:34:06.599
<v Speaker 2>all the things we're told to kind of happen at

652
00:34:06.599 --> 00:34:08.880
<v Speaker 2>the end of the world, Like things fall apart very

653
00:34:08.960 --> 00:34:11.239
<v Speaker 2>quickly too. I always think about that, like the end

654
00:34:11.280 --> 00:34:12.760
<v Speaker 2>of the world, not the end of the world, but

655
00:34:12.800 --> 00:34:16.480
<v Speaker 2>like when things fall apart, it happens so faster. On

656
00:34:16.599 --> 00:34:18.840
<v Speaker 2>nine to eleven, I went to and we live we

657
00:34:18.880 --> 00:34:23.000
<v Speaker 2>live close to Shanksville where the one plane landed, crashed whatever,

658
00:34:23.679 --> 00:34:28.360
<v Speaker 2>But like grocery stores were overrun within you know, fifteen

659
00:34:28.400 --> 00:34:31.679
<v Speaker 2>minutes after that, and then you know things. So I

660
00:34:31.719 --> 00:34:35.119
<v Speaker 2>think that's also realistic about this. Within half a day,

661
00:34:35.360 --> 00:34:38.039
<v Speaker 2>Evan City is a mess and you've got to fight

662
00:34:38.519 --> 00:34:39.960
<v Speaker 2>military troops to get out of it.

663
00:34:41.760 --> 00:34:43.519
<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of yelling in this movie.

664
00:34:43.880 --> 00:34:45.559
<v Speaker 2>I love that though, Like we talked about that all

665
00:34:45.559 --> 00:34:48.559
<v Speaker 2>the time on our video show, Like we're always like,

666
00:34:48.639 --> 00:34:50.719
<v Speaker 2>did you hear all the screams? Oh my god, there's

667
00:34:50.719 --> 00:34:52.880
<v Speaker 2>so many streams. That's why Ala Carta is a top

668
00:34:52.920 --> 00:34:57.079
<v Speaker 2>ten movie because Alacarta is like ninety minutes of women

669
00:34:57.280 --> 00:34:59.960
<v Speaker 2>freaking out and it's music my years. I love it.

670
00:35:03.000 --> 00:35:05.800
<v Speaker 1>Let's see we get another film with a flamethrower. We

671
00:35:05.920 --> 00:35:07.840
<v Speaker 1>talked about this last time back to back and we

672
00:35:08.320 --> 00:35:11.079
<v Speaker 1>and then we'll have some more connections with this movie

673
00:35:11.079 --> 00:35:13.320
<v Speaker 1>in our next movie, but we'll get to that later.

674
00:35:13.519 --> 00:35:15.360
<v Speaker 2>I love that, Like is that people are guess that's

675
00:35:15.360 --> 00:35:17.760
<v Speaker 2>the same you guys podcast. Yeah, we're movies about two

676
00:35:17.840 --> 00:35:20.599
<v Speaker 2>dudes talking about flamethrowers. That's the name of this flunny.

677
00:35:23.719 --> 00:35:26.159
<v Speaker 1>Let's see, I don't know what else, what else do

678
00:35:26.199 --> 00:35:26.400
<v Speaker 1>you have?

679
00:35:26.880 --> 00:35:30.440
<v Speaker 2>So uh, as David learns everybody's infected, like you know,

680
00:35:30.559 --> 00:35:33.880
<v Speaker 2>like already hangs himself. Kathy just tries to sneak out

681
00:35:33.920 --> 00:35:36.199
<v Speaker 2>of her hiding spot. She's pray good. She gets shot

682
00:35:36.239 --> 00:35:38.199
<v Speaker 2>by soldiers. Do you know what I mean? Like they

683
00:35:38.199 --> 00:35:42.000
<v Speaker 2>don't even care. Uh. Clank starts to realize that the

684
00:35:42.079 --> 00:35:42.920
<v Speaker 2>virus is coming.

685
00:35:43.400 --> 00:35:43.519
<v Speaker 3>Uh.

686
00:35:44.599 --> 00:35:49.519
<v Speaker 2>He engages the soldiers and sacrifices himself. But like by

687
00:35:49.519 --> 00:35:51.280
<v Speaker 2>the end of it, Judy is so infected that she

688
00:35:51.440 --> 00:35:55.360
<v Speaker 2>just attacks her own people. And David's like totally broken

689
00:35:55.400 --> 00:35:58.039
<v Speaker 2>by this and he surrenders himself. But while in custody,

690
00:35:58.079 --> 00:36:01.199
<v Speaker 2>he just he learns that he's immune to the virus.

691
00:36:01.760 --> 00:36:03.800
<v Speaker 2>But you know what, he doesn't tell anybody. He's just

692
00:36:03.800 --> 00:36:05.679
<v Speaker 2>like fuck, you know what I mean? Like at this point,

693
00:36:06.000 --> 00:36:08.199
<v Speaker 2>who am I helping? And then doctor Watts, who finally,

694
00:36:08.280 --> 00:36:12.159
<v Speaker 2>even in these horrible situations, like discovers a cure, but

695
00:36:12.199 --> 00:36:15.519
<v Speaker 2>he's killed and the samples are destored because everything you know,

696
00:36:15.559 --> 00:36:18.440
<v Speaker 2>falls apart, and by the end, you know, Colonel Packham

697
00:36:18.440 --> 00:36:21.119
<v Speaker 2>is order to relocate to Louisville. There's already an outbreak

698
00:36:21.480 --> 00:36:24.440
<v Speaker 2>in Louisville. And in the time you know that we're

699
00:36:24.480 --> 00:36:27.920
<v Speaker 2>watching this. I think that's another interesting thing because did

700
00:36:27.960 --> 00:36:30.519
<v Speaker 2>you know this that you know, the Return of the

701
00:36:30.519 --> 00:36:33.440
<v Speaker 2>Living Dead set in Louisville, and supposedly that's the same

702
00:36:33.480 --> 00:36:36.159
<v Speaker 2>place they sent this contagion because if you look at

703
00:36:36.159 --> 00:36:39.960
<v Speaker 2>the nerve agent, it's called triox and like, uh, trixy

704
00:36:40.920 --> 00:36:43.119
<v Speaker 2>two four five. So I would like to believe the

705
00:36:43.199 --> 00:36:45.000
<v Speaker 2>Return of the Living deads in the same universe as

706
00:36:45.039 --> 00:36:46.320
<v Speaker 2>this movie.

707
00:36:46.760 --> 00:36:49.320
<v Speaker 1>We'll make it. We're saying it right here, right now.

708
00:36:49.400 --> 00:36:50.920
<v Speaker 1>This is these are all connected.

709
00:36:54.519 --> 00:36:57.840
<v Speaker 2>The tagline is why are the Good People Dying? And

710
00:36:58.000 --> 00:36:59.760
<v Speaker 2>one it should be called what are the Good People dying?

711
00:36:59.800 --> 00:37:03.599
<v Speaker 2>And yelling at each other? And then it is a

712
00:37:03.679 --> 00:37:06.480
<v Speaker 2>spoiler warning right in the in the thing, like anyone

713
00:37:06.559 --> 00:37:09.639
<v Speaker 2>that you care about this movie is they're not going

714
00:37:09.719 --> 00:37:11.079
<v Speaker 2>to make it. By the end, They're going to call

715
00:37:11.159 --> 00:37:14.000
<v Speaker 2>in a nuclear plane and just wipe. I might have

716
00:37:14.039 --> 00:37:15.840
<v Speaker 2>pound off the map. You know.

717
00:37:15.880 --> 00:37:17.960
<v Speaker 1>It's kind of like you know when people ask why

718
00:37:17.960 --> 00:37:20.360
<v Speaker 1>do bad things happen to good people and always say,

719
00:37:20.480 --> 00:37:23.760
<v Speaker 1>I guess like usually you're you're the good people, And well,

720
00:37:23.760 --> 00:37:26.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, why do you think you're the good people? Always?

721
00:37:26.440 --> 00:37:29.480
<v Speaker 1>In this scenaria? Yeah, what make what makes you good people?

722
00:37:30.760 --> 00:37:33.400
<v Speaker 2>I gotta tell you that my favorite person in this

723
00:37:33.480 --> 00:37:37.320
<v Speaker 2>movie is Kathy because I love Lynn Wowery, and it's

724
00:37:37.320 --> 00:37:40.119
<v Speaker 2>funny that she's in two movies that are such a

725
00:37:40.159 --> 00:37:43.360
<v Speaker 2>similar basic idea, like I drink your blood in this movie.

726
00:37:43.519 --> 00:37:47.639
<v Speaker 2>Maybe that's the spoiler. You might edit that out, yeah,

727
00:37:47.679 --> 00:37:50.719
<v Speaker 2>but uh yeah, it's that. But it's funny because she's

728
00:37:50.719 --> 00:37:53.039
<v Speaker 2>also in Shivers. So at some point do you think

729
00:37:53.119 --> 00:37:57.719
<v Speaker 2>she was like, Hey, could I maybe not be in movies?

730
00:37:58.000 --> 00:38:01.320
<v Speaker 2>We're some kind of crazy virus begins to impact the

731
00:38:01.320 --> 00:38:04.440
<v Speaker 2>world and I'm like a drugged out girl staring out

732
00:38:04.440 --> 00:38:06.880
<v Speaker 2>a window. She's in Cat People too, which one could

733
00:38:06.880 --> 00:38:09.960
<v Speaker 2>also say is some kind of fever overcomes people. So

734
00:38:11.880 --> 00:38:14.880
<v Speaker 2>but this movie does have people that were in other stuff.

735
00:38:14.960 --> 00:38:19.239
<v Speaker 2>While you know David's main character, he's in Close Encounter

736
00:38:19.400 --> 00:38:21.519
<v Speaker 2>as he was on a lot of TVs and the Enforcer.

737
00:38:22.039 --> 00:38:25.599
<v Speaker 2>There but a lot of people that crossover into Romero movies,

738
00:38:25.679 --> 00:38:29.519
<v Speaker 2>like Beyond Richard Franz, there's Woyd Holler, who's the Colonel.

739
00:38:29.559 --> 00:38:33.960
<v Speaker 2>He's in Night Riders. S Wayne Hensman shows up Is

740
00:38:33.960 --> 00:38:36.480
<v Speaker 2>it Crazy? So does Ramere is an extra in it too.

741
00:38:36.960 --> 00:38:40.239
<v Speaker 2>Richard Liberty who is Doctor Logan and Day he's here

742
00:38:40.480 --> 00:38:43.760
<v Speaker 2>is our playing already? We have Jack the husband from

743
00:38:43.800 --> 00:38:47.760
<v Speaker 2>season The Witch. That's brew Baker even down to like

744
00:38:48.320 --> 00:38:51.079
<v Speaker 2>it's wild, like Michael Gornick is one of the crazies.

745
00:38:51.519 --> 00:38:54.559
<v Speaker 2>He did the director of photography for a lot of

746
00:38:54.880 --> 00:38:58.239
<v Speaker 2>Romero's films, and he directed Creep Show two. Uh, and

747
00:38:58.280 --> 00:39:02.239
<v Speaker 2>then we also have Cata Zone. We're going to be

748
00:39:02.280 --> 00:39:04.760
<v Speaker 2>an animator. He actually tied at the school I graduated from,

749
00:39:05.000 --> 00:39:07.280
<v Speaker 2>and he did all the animation for Creep Show and

750
00:39:07.559 --> 00:39:10.079
<v Speaker 2>Evil Dead too. It's like all the stuff you love

751
00:39:10.079 --> 00:39:12.960
<v Speaker 2>in Creep Show, the cartoons and stuff. That's all the animators.

752
00:39:12.960 --> 00:39:14.039
<v Speaker 2>Two guys from Pittsburgh.

753
00:39:14.199 --> 00:39:15.360
<v Speaker 1>I love Creep Show too.

754
00:39:16.280 --> 00:39:18.199
<v Speaker 2>I do too. I didn't like it as a kid,

755
00:39:18.320 --> 00:39:21.079
<v Speaker 2>and now I think I kind of prefer it in

756
00:39:21.119 --> 00:39:21.800
<v Speaker 2>a weird way.

757
00:39:22.119 --> 00:39:23.800
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't go that far, but.

758
00:39:23.800 --> 00:39:29.559
<v Speaker 2>Really no, because Creep Show has those like a knockouts

759
00:39:29.559 --> 00:39:32.639
<v Speaker 2>where everything is like super Neon and like, this is

760
00:39:32.679 --> 00:39:35.000
<v Speaker 2>a podcast, so visually I am showing what Ted Danson

761
00:39:35.039 --> 00:39:37.840
<v Speaker 2>looks like when he gets caught by Leslie Nielson. But

762
00:39:37.880 --> 00:39:39.960
<v Speaker 2>it's like very in your face, and I'm like, fuck,

763
00:39:40.039 --> 00:39:41.079
<v Speaker 2>creep Show's good.

764
00:39:41.559 --> 00:39:44.719
<v Speaker 1>I love creep not so much on that Stephen King

765
00:39:45.119 --> 00:39:49.679
<v Speaker 1>Jordie Verel story. Yeah, but that's always always skip it. Yeah,

766
00:39:49.719 --> 00:39:51.360
<v Speaker 1>but maybe I'm like it more than now. I don't

767
00:39:51.360 --> 00:39:54.920
<v Speaker 1>think I would, but you know Father's Day. When we're

768
00:39:54.920 --> 00:39:57.679
<v Speaker 1>recording this day, it is Father's Day weekend. Yeah, so

769
00:39:57.840 --> 00:40:01.199
<v Speaker 1>I have your cake. I onto my cake.

770
00:40:03.280 --> 00:40:06.880
<v Speaker 2>On our video show we actually did. There's a remix

771
00:40:06.920 --> 00:40:10.320
<v Speaker 2>that starts the show of like disco e lounge music

772
00:40:10.360 --> 00:40:13.199
<v Speaker 2>and the and Ed Harris dancing from that scene, Like

773
00:40:13.280 --> 00:40:17.679
<v Speaker 2>his dancing is amazing. What's the thing. The thing that's

774
00:40:17.760 --> 00:40:21.559
<v Speaker 2>great about Creep Show is like any good portmanteau, you know,

775
00:40:22.440 --> 00:40:27.000
<v Speaker 2>the movie with with movies within movies is like there's

776
00:40:27.039 --> 00:40:30.199
<v Speaker 2>at least three or four that are fucking killer, right,

777
00:40:30.320 --> 00:40:33.920
<v Speaker 2>Like the thing in the crate is amazing. The bugs

778
00:40:33.920 --> 00:40:36.440
<v Speaker 2>at the end, like them coming out of spoiler it's

779
00:40:36.480 --> 00:40:39.480
<v Speaker 2>for for forty year old movie. Eg Marshall's mouth, Like

780
00:40:39.480 --> 00:40:41.960
<v Speaker 2>there's so much good ship in it that you're kind

781
00:40:41.960 --> 00:40:44.519
<v Speaker 2>of forgiving that. Jody Vero is very depressing and takes

782
00:40:44.519 --> 00:40:47.000
<v Speaker 2>forever like that's probably why I don't like this story.

783
00:40:47.039 --> 00:40:49.800
<v Speaker 2>It is depressing Versus I want to see Fluffy come

784
00:40:49.840 --> 00:40:52.039
<v Speaker 2>out of the crate and just white people out like

785
00:40:52.119 --> 00:40:54.480
<v Speaker 2>it's shit. It's awesome, that's what people we're here for.

786
00:40:55.039 --> 00:40:57.119
<v Speaker 1>I love the crate. This is turning into the creep

787
00:40:57.119 --> 00:40:59.679
<v Speaker 1>Show podcast. Oh, I know, but it's okay, is Romero

788
00:41:00.159 --> 00:41:02.679
<v Speaker 1>is we can connect. But I think it doesn't feel

789
00:41:02.760 --> 00:41:04.719
<v Speaker 1>very Romero to me. I don't know.

790
00:41:05.119 --> 00:41:08.440
<v Speaker 2>I think it's because it's such an easy comics uh

791
00:41:08.800 --> 00:41:13.280
<v Speaker 2>pistiche right that it feels like a comic book versus

792
00:41:13.360 --> 00:41:17.320
<v Speaker 2>like tell Us from the Dark Side, which is in

793
00:41:17.440 --> 00:41:19.880
<v Speaker 2>the Romero verse because he produced it, wrote a lot

794
00:41:19.880 --> 00:41:23.000
<v Speaker 2>of the episodes, and the movie I think is kind

795
00:41:23.000 --> 00:41:26.400
<v Speaker 2>of like what feels more Romero than Creep Show does

796
00:41:26.840 --> 00:41:29.320
<v Speaker 2>because he's not aping like a look or feel you know.

797
00:41:30.320 --> 00:41:34.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I guess just from the previous Romero films, it's

798
00:41:34.960 --> 00:41:37.679
<v Speaker 1>lacking any sort of social commentary at all. I think

799
00:41:38.000 --> 00:41:42.239
<v Speaker 1>Creep Show, I guess. I guess you could put some.

800
00:41:43.679 --> 00:41:48.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, oh that's the second one with the what's Yeah,

801
00:41:48.880 --> 00:41:50.559
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. That's why I like it. And I

802
00:41:50.559 --> 00:41:53.840
<v Speaker 2>also like that a lot of the nobody in it

803
00:41:53.880 --> 00:41:56.519
<v Speaker 2>is really innocent in the same way that happens in

804
00:41:56.599 --> 00:42:00.920
<v Speaker 2>easy comics. Like yeah, ted Danson's sleeping around and h

805
00:42:01.559 --> 00:42:06.480
<v Speaker 2>cheating with Leslie Nielsen's wife, but he's also a horrible

806
00:42:06.519 --> 00:42:09.440
<v Speaker 2>person too, but like so when but it's like the

807
00:42:09.519 --> 00:42:12.960
<v Speaker 2>story is so simple, right, Like they cheaters get caught,

808
00:42:13.079 --> 00:42:15.000
<v Speaker 2>but you know what they had true love, So they

809
00:42:15.000 --> 00:42:17.480
<v Speaker 2>come back as swamp monsters and kill the guy and

810
00:42:17.519 --> 00:42:20.599
<v Speaker 2>it's like, man, it's it's and it flies. So even

811
00:42:20.599 --> 00:42:23.599
<v Speaker 2>if you hate one of the stories, you're like, cool,

812
00:42:23.679 --> 00:42:25.920
<v Speaker 2>let's move next one. When Creep Show three came out,

813
00:42:25.960 --> 00:42:29.039
<v Speaker 2>it's probably the maddest I had been until I eventually

814
00:42:29.039 --> 00:42:30.840
<v Speaker 2>got a real job and they like moved on and

815
00:42:30.840 --> 00:42:33.320
<v Speaker 2>had real problems. I was like, sure, three, no.

816
00:42:33.480 --> 00:42:36.639
<v Speaker 1>But but I haven't. Part of me was like the

817
00:42:36.679 --> 00:42:39.360
<v Speaker 1>completionist part of me says, you need to watch this,

818
00:42:39.480 --> 00:42:43.119
<v Speaker 1>and the rational aside of me says, no, you do well.

819
00:42:44.360 --> 00:42:48.719
<v Speaker 2>Two has the raft, which is I will, especially around

820
00:42:48.719 --> 00:42:50.719
<v Speaker 2>here there's a lot of areas because swimming there's still

821
00:42:50.960 --> 00:42:52.880
<v Speaker 2>steel mill junk in it, do you know what I mean?

822
00:42:52.920 --> 00:42:56.280
<v Speaker 2>So it's bad. So I know where Rimro got that.

823
00:42:56.440 --> 00:42:58.880
<v Speaker 2>But the older I get, the more that I love

824
00:42:59.039 --> 00:43:01.880
<v Speaker 2>the old Chief wooden Head story because like when I

825
00:43:01.920 --> 00:43:05.039
<v Speaker 2>was younger, I saw myself, as you know, the Native

826
00:43:05.039 --> 00:43:06.960
<v Speaker 2>Americans trying to get a town or like the other

827
00:43:06.960 --> 00:43:09.079
<v Speaker 2>people to now I'm older. I'm like, I'm one hundred

828
00:43:09.079 --> 00:43:12.079
<v Speaker 2>percent Geards Kennedy. I'm exhausted. I just want to finish

829
00:43:12.159 --> 00:43:14.920
<v Speaker 2>work and get these kids out of my store.

830
00:43:16.360 --> 00:43:19.199
<v Speaker 1>We might talk more about creep shouting next episode.

831
00:43:19.960 --> 00:43:26.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, awesome, But back back to the crazies. There's

832
00:43:26.519 --> 00:43:28.800
<v Speaker 2>some people that went on to stuff in this. Roger

833
00:43:28.800 --> 00:43:34.079
<v Speaker 2>Aaron Brown was in Action Jackson and Lane Carroll was

834
00:43:34.119 --> 00:43:38.320
<v Speaker 2>in Hercules in New York and Motorcycle. Okay better, but

835
00:43:38.559 --> 00:43:43.559
<v Speaker 2>uh yeah, so I have some facts, some Rometo facts

836
00:43:43.760 --> 00:43:48.840
<v Speaker 2>about this. Let's see. Some people consider Nightmare at Noon

837
00:43:48.960 --> 00:43:52.199
<v Speaker 2>and Mutant remakes of this movie. I don't think so. Like,

838
00:43:52.480 --> 00:43:54.400
<v Speaker 2>I don't feel like they're remakes of this. They're just

839
00:43:54.760 --> 00:43:56.800
<v Speaker 2>movies about infection from the government.

840
00:43:57.840 --> 00:44:00.440
<v Speaker 1>I haven't seen. I haven't seen either one of those same.

841
00:44:01.039 --> 00:44:04.880
<v Speaker 2>It's not bad if you like wings Hauser and who doesn't. Right, No,

842
00:44:05.039 --> 00:44:10.239
<v Speaker 2>Hollywood Sun people were using this movie no shit, licensed

843
00:44:10.280 --> 00:44:13.320
<v Speaker 2>firework professionals. I know where they're from from, Zembelly Fireworks

844
00:44:13.360 --> 00:44:16.320
<v Speaker 2>and Newcastle handled all the action sequence. Would you let

845
00:44:16.360 --> 00:44:20.760
<v Speaker 2>a fireworks person put a squib on you and blow

846
00:44:20.800 --> 00:44:21.679
<v Speaker 2>it up off your chest?

847
00:44:21.800 --> 00:44:21.880
<v Speaker 3>No?

848
00:44:22.800 --> 00:44:25.480
<v Speaker 2>Knowing what I know now they blow up their factory

849
00:44:25.719 --> 00:44:28.239
<v Speaker 2>every five or six years, like I'm not going to

850
00:44:28.280 --> 00:44:31.039
<v Speaker 2>trust them to put like what could be the thing

851
00:44:31.079 --> 00:44:32.800
<v Speaker 2>that kills me on my chest?

852
00:44:33.800 --> 00:44:35.000
<v Speaker 1>Was this budget or squibs?

853
00:44:35.280 --> 00:44:37.880
<v Speaker 2>This is the budget for this was out of control?

854
00:44:38.239 --> 00:44:39.800
<v Speaker 2>That should be a thing we check at the end,

855
00:44:39.840 --> 00:44:44.119
<v Speaker 2>like what was the squib or swim? The screenplay was

856
00:44:44.960 --> 00:44:49.719
<v Speaker 2>read by Lee Hessel, who owned Campus Films, and Rameiro

857
00:44:49.800 --> 00:44:51.559
<v Speaker 2>had made There's Always Van l with him. He had

858
00:44:51.599 --> 00:44:54.440
<v Speaker 2>expressed interest and offered to finance it, but only if

859
00:44:55.079 --> 00:44:58.000
<v Speaker 2>he'd be willing to have the most important thing in

860
00:44:58.079 --> 00:45:00.679
<v Speaker 2>the screenplay. He won the military in it, and that

861
00:45:00.800 --> 00:45:04.239
<v Speaker 2>happened sooner than Ramera wanted. He made this for don't

862
00:45:04.239 --> 00:45:06.239
<v Speaker 2>ever believe what they tell you on bud just about

863
00:45:06.519 --> 00:45:09.400
<v Speaker 2>a little under three hundred thousand. But Campus is super

864
00:45:09.480 --> 00:45:13.679
<v Speaker 2>interesting to me because they released some wild movies including Aroused,

865
00:45:14.079 --> 00:45:19.679
<v Speaker 2>the Deadly Organ, which is incredible, Sappho, Darling, Anita, Cry Uncle,

866
00:45:20.519 --> 00:45:23.920
<v Speaker 2>all four Ulsa movies, Vampire Like. They really put out

867
00:45:24.440 --> 00:45:26.159
<v Speaker 2>art movies, as they say, you know.

868
00:45:27.480 --> 00:45:31.599
<v Speaker 1>And Ilsa is an art movie. Yeah, I think so

869
00:45:31.760 --> 00:45:33.280
<v Speaker 1>the first one. I've only seen the first one.

870
00:45:33.320 --> 00:45:39.559
<v Speaker 2>Oh well it's too Yeah, you would say that, of course. Yeah.

871
00:45:39.639 --> 00:45:42.679
<v Speaker 2>The closing credit song Heaven Help Us is by Beverly Bremmers,

872
00:45:42.719 --> 00:45:45.360
<v Speaker 2>but it was the first record a song ever written

873
00:45:45.360 --> 00:45:49.119
<v Speaker 2>by Melissa Manchester, who wrote it alongside Carol bay Or Sager.

874
00:45:49.239 --> 00:45:53.239
<v Speaker 2>So some Tim ban ally writers like, I wonder where

875
00:45:53.239 --> 00:45:55.880
<v Speaker 2>they're going to use my song. It's an operation Trinsy,

876
00:45:56.639 --> 00:45:57.480
<v Speaker 2>good name, Trisy.

877
00:46:01.719 --> 00:46:06.679
<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about the remakey, what did you think about that?

878
00:46:07.480 --> 00:46:11.320
<v Speaker 2>They shot it in Pittsburgh? Okay, so that's good, right, Okay,

879
00:46:11.719 --> 00:46:18.239
<v Speaker 2>I guess, ok okay, you're more interested in what I do,

880
00:46:19.599 --> 00:46:20.320
<v Speaker 2>and then I'll tell you what.

881
00:46:20.400 --> 00:46:24.559
<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's that sounds good. I had seen the remake first,

882
00:46:25.519 --> 00:46:27.920
<v Speaker 1>so i'd seen that soon after it came out, and

883
00:46:27.920 --> 00:46:30.599
<v Speaker 1>I thought it was okay. I thought it was decent,

884
00:46:31.320 --> 00:46:34.920
<v Speaker 1>and at that time I rewatched it now and I

885
00:46:34.960 --> 00:46:38.239
<v Speaker 1>did not care for it as much. It just didn't

886
00:46:38.239 --> 00:46:40.880
<v Speaker 1>have a lot of joy in it. And it feels

887
00:46:41.039 --> 00:46:45.880
<v Speaker 1>very twenty ten. It's not interested in any sort of

888
00:46:46.280 --> 00:46:47.360
<v Speaker 1>social commentary.

889
00:46:47.519 --> 00:46:47.599
<v Speaker 2>It.

890
00:46:48.199 --> 00:46:51.159
<v Speaker 1>You know, it does have the sheriff as the main character,

891
00:46:51.760 --> 00:46:55.800
<v Speaker 1>and it puts the you know, the sheriff and the

892
00:46:55.840 --> 00:46:58.800
<v Speaker 1>citizens more at the center of the film than any

893
00:46:58.840 --> 00:47:03.840
<v Speaker 1>sort of government can or bureaucracy or malfeasance or what

894
00:47:03.960 --> 00:47:08.960
<v Speaker 1>have you. I did like that we basically get the

895
00:47:08.960 --> 00:47:11.760
<v Speaker 1>the mayor of Jaws in this movie and the remake

896
00:47:11.800 --> 00:47:14.480
<v Speaker 1>crazy and they're like, we cannot turn the water off

897
00:47:14.559 --> 00:47:16.920
<v Speaker 1>because there's planting season, so.

898
00:47:18.360 --> 00:47:21.119
<v Speaker 2>Is it planning season or they also it's like, let's

899
00:47:21.119 --> 00:47:24.039
<v Speaker 2>sleeping corpses lie that they have this machine in the field.

900
00:47:24.079 --> 00:47:26.119
<v Speaker 2>One ball.

901
00:47:27.079 --> 00:47:31.199
<v Speaker 1>And then the overall My my thought was it's kind

902
00:47:31.199 --> 00:47:33.920
<v Speaker 1>of was the film that bridges the gap between something

903
00:47:33.960 --> 00:47:36.519
<v Speaker 1>like twenty eight Days Later and The Walking Dead.

904
00:47:37.000 --> 00:47:43.039
<v Speaker 2>That's genius. I agree with you, but I mean he also, yeah,

905
00:47:43.199 --> 00:47:45.880
<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of Walking Dead that rips off movies because, uh,

906
00:47:46.519 --> 00:47:48.719
<v Speaker 2>the one girl that's in it was just like Princess

907
00:47:48.760 --> 00:47:51.360
<v Speaker 2>from one of the Bronx movies. So like there's a

908
00:47:51.360 --> 00:47:53.480
<v Speaker 2>lot of like weird like, oh, he watched but that

909
00:47:53.559 --> 00:47:55.960
<v Speaker 2>makes sense, you know. I'm sure the Raider grew up

910
00:47:56.039 --> 00:48:00.360
<v Speaker 2>during the this is the Comic Book version, Yeah, during

911
00:48:00.400 --> 00:48:03.199
<v Speaker 2>the same VHS era we did. I do like of

912
00:48:03.239 --> 00:48:05.960
<v Speaker 2>the sequel, the sequel remake, whatever we want to call it,

913
00:48:06.000 --> 00:48:10.559
<v Speaker 2>reimagining that Lynn Lowry's in it is a cameo. That's

914
00:48:10.559 --> 00:48:12.800
<v Speaker 2>pretty cool. I'm happy to see here you get work

915
00:48:12.800 --> 00:48:16.519
<v Speaker 2>in a bigger budget movie. But if you didn't see

916
00:48:16.559 --> 00:48:20.880
<v Speaker 2>the original, I guess it's good. It's a twenty eight

917
00:48:20.960 --> 00:48:24.840
<v Speaker 2>Days Later type, you know, infection story. It's not or

918
00:48:24.920 --> 00:48:27.840
<v Speaker 2>contagion or outbreak. It feels like it came out around

919
00:48:27.840 --> 00:48:30.119
<v Speaker 2>the time of those movies, so it's less, like you said,

920
00:48:30.119 --> 00:48:32.599
<v Speaker 2>a social commentary movie and more just like, give me

921
00:48:32.639 --> 00:48:36.599
<v Speaker 2>another one of these community just kind of a conspiracy thing.

922
00:48:36.599 --> 00:48:41.079
<v Speaker 1>That post nine to eleven just not torture, but just

923
00:48:41.159 --> 00:48:45.320
<v Speaker 1>kind of we're just gonna have horror for horror's sake.

924
00:48:46.320 --> 00:48:48.440
<v Speaker 2>Do you think I did have a question about that

925
00:48:49.519 --> 00:48:53.920
<v Speaker 2>having seen both, Like between the twenty ten remake had

926
00:48:54.000 --> 00:48:56.760
<v Speaker 2>obviously much bigger production value, But do you think the

927
00:48:56.800 --> 00:48:58.760
<v Speaker 2>polished book hurt the film? Like does it? Was that

928
00:48:59.159 --> 00:49:02.639
<v Speaker 2>refernd the edges grit that makes I think that's what

929
00:49:02.719 --> 00:49:04.400
<v Speaker 2>I like about the Crazies. Like you said, the other

930
00:49:04.440 --> 00:49:07.480
<v Speaker 2>one's no fun. Even though this is a downer story,

931
00:49:07.519 --> 00:49:09.559
<v Speaker 2>there is fun and it feels like edgy and it

932
00:49:09.559 --> 00:49:12.960
<v Speaker 2>feels like you are there, and I don't feel like

933
00:49:13.000 --> 00:49:13.840
<v Speaker 2>that with the sequel.

934
00:49:13.960 --> 00:49:17.199
<v Speaker 1>I think the editing is really something we hadn't talked about,

935
00:49:17.199 --> 00:49:20.480
<v Speaker 1>But the editing on The Crazies, the original The Romero

936
00:49:20.639 --> 00:49:24.159
<v Speaker 1>Crazies is really gives it that frenetic pace, that need

937
00:49:24.280 --> 00:49:27.039
<v Speaker 1>that the story needs, and that's not the case in

938
00:49:27.079 --> 00:49:27.719
<v Speaker 1>that remake.

939
00:49:28.960 --> 00:49:32.840
<v Speaker 2>This, it feels like in the way in the same

940
00:49:32.840 --> 00:49:35.639
<v Speaker 2>way the twenty eight Days Later makes the infected or

941
00:49:35.719 --> 00:49:38.440
<v Speaker 2>zobvious move faster. It's a different thing in this, Like

942
00:49:38.440 --> 00:49:41.000
<v Speaker 2>the frenetic pace is such a difference to If you

943
00:49:41.039 --> 00:49:43.760
<v Speaker 2>skip the movies two moves in between and watch Night

944
00:49:43.880 --> 00:49:45.679
<v Speaker 2>and This, you can see that he's grown to do

945
00:49:45.760 --> 00:49:47.920
<v Speaker 2>a lot of different things as a director and with

946
00:49:48.000 --> 00:49:50.079
<v Speaker 2>his editors. And that's kind of what I like about

947
00:49:50.119 --> 00:49:53.559
<v Speaker 2>The Crazies, like gets you know, it feels like it's

948
00:49:54.920 --> 00:49:57.920
<v Speaker 2>it's very much like a pursuit stop movie versus being

949
00:49:58.280 --> 00:49:59.199
<v Speaker 2>walled up in a house.

950
00:49:59.719 --> 00:50:04.039
<v Speaker 1>You know, right, did Romero? How involved was he in editing?

951
00:50:04.159 --> 00:50:07.599
<v Speaker 1>And because I know he was in writing, cinematography, editing,

952
00:50:07.920 --> 00:50:11.039
<v Speaker 1>was he pretty heavily involved in these first several films?

953
00:50:11.039 --> 00:50:11.079
<v Speaker 2>Not?

954
00:50:11.320 --> 00:50:13.800
<v Speaker 1>I know he was not a writer on There's Always Vanilla.

955
00:50:14.519 --> 00:50:17.920
<v Speaker 2>I think that coming from the advertising world, he definitely

956
00:50:17.960 --> 00:50:20.039
<v Speaker 2>was sitting in with But I also know that he

957
00:50:20.119 --> 00:50:23.280
<v Speaker 2>shot tons of film, you know, and he was always

958
00:50:23.519 --> 00:50:26.400
<v Speaker 2>like going way over, like his initial cuts are longer,

959
00:50:26.480 --> 00:50:29.000
<v Speaker 2>so I imagine that he was really sitting in and trying.

960
00:50:29.119 --> 00:50:31.119
<v Speaker 2>There may have been a point though, you know where

961
00:50:31.119 --> 00:50:35.000
<v Speaker 2>he stepped out is you know sometimes that happens and

962
00:50:35.559 --> 00:50:38.559
<v Speaker 2>you know because you're just like, I can't do it anymore.

963
00:50:39.039 --> 00:50:42.239
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, he co wrote this with Paul McCollough, who

964
00:50:42.280 --> 00:50:44.079
<v Speaker 2>he wrote with, and that guy did tons of music

965
00:50:44.159 --> 00:50:48.360
<v Speaker 2>for the major ettes, Heartstopper, he edited a flash Eater.

966
00:50:48.719 --> 00:50:51.199
<v Speaker 2>So he's like, when you see these names of Pear

967
00:50:51.280 --> 00:50:54.159
<v Speaker 2>Mall movies, like people in Pittsburgh, if you've worked with somebody,

968
00:50:54.199 --> 00:50:56.239
<v Speaker 2>you're had to work with him again here to bring

969
00:50:56.280 --> 00:50:57.480
<v Speaker 2>them on, do you know what I mean. That's just

970
00:50:57.519 --> 00:50:59.519
<v Speaker 2>the way that it works, especially within that industry.

971
00:51:00.599 --> 00:51:04.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so I watched some other movies in conjunction with

972
00:51:04.480 --> 00:51:07.880
<v Speaker 1>this that I thought would work. Let's see what what

973
00:51:07.920 --> 00:51:09.519
<v Speaker 1>do I want to start with. It's just a couple.

974
00:51:10.000 --> 00:51:15.079
<v Speaker 1>I had both of them rewatches, and the genre Loans

975
00:51:15.079 --> 00:51:18.039
<v Speaker 1>of the Grapes of Death was the first one.

976
00:51:18.320 --> 00:51:20.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm so excited to hear about that I had.

977
00:51:21.280 --> 00:51:24.760
<v Speaker 1>I had seen it before, and I think what led

978
00:51:24.800 --> 00:51:28.920
<v Speaker 1>me to the Crazies in the first place, was after

979
00:51:28.960 --> 00:51:31.079
<v Speaker 1>watching The Grapes of Death and seeing a lot of

980
00:51:31.119 --> 00:51:34.400
<v Speaker 1>reviews on letterbox where people were comparing the two, and

981
00:51:34.960 --> 00:51:37.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, I definitely get it. There's it's environmental horror

982
00:51:37.880 --> 00:51:42.719
<v Speaker 1>and there's something going on in the Great Fields in

983
00:51:42.760 --> 00:51:49.320
<v Speaker 1>France and uh brigitt La Hayes in this movie. And

984
00:51:49.519 --> 00:51:52.840
<v Speaker 1>I did not remember that. I did not know who

985
00:51:52.840 --> 00:51:54.679
<v Speaker 1>she was whenever I watched it, so I probably first

986
00:51:54.679 --> 00:51:56.880
<v Speaker 1>watched in twenty twenty one had no idea who she was.

987
00:51:57.639 --> 00:52:00.440
<v Speaker 1>Now I do, And when she first comes on the

988
00:52:00.480 --> 00:52:02.760
<v Speaker 1>scene on Grapes, I mean I think I audibly gasped,

989
00:52:03.000 --> 00:52:06.199
<v Speaker 1>oh yeah, I was so taken aback you made.

990
00:52:06.079 --> 00:52:08.000
<v Speaker 2>The noise I do. When Luna Romes shows up in

991
00:52:08.559 --> 00:52:11.719
<v Speaker 2>You Were, I'm like, oh, Lena or Candy Coster, Uh,

992
00:52:12.039 --> 00:52:15.559
<v Speaker 2>you know, that's can't help it. It's joy.

993
00:52:17.239 --> 00:52:20.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. But I think if I were to pick, I

994
00:52:20.039 --> 00:52:23.000
<v Speaker 1>want to definitely pair with I think I would I'd

995
00:52:23.079 --> 00:52:27.159
<v Speaker 1>go with David Crounnenberg's Rabbit, just because it's more of

996
00:52:27.199 --> 00:52:32.079
<v Speaker 1>the government response in the Canadian government response. Canada is

997
00:52:32.199 --> 00:52:36.039
<v Speaker 1>like we're just gonna kill you, and you know, shoot

998
00:52:36.079 --> 00:52:38.440
<v Speaker 1>them on site, like you know, there's no reason to

999
00:52:38.519 --> 00:52:40.679
<v Speaker 1>keep these people a lot. They're not going to get better.

1000
00:52:41.039 --> 00:52:44.760
<v Speaker 1>Just kill them and save save the taxpayers money.

1001
00:52:45.119 --> 00:52:47.800
<v Speaker 2>And do it during Christmas, like I say it to

1002
00:52:47.840 --> 00:52:51.559
<v Speaker 2>sitting there, like just come in and go wild. Uh yeah,

1003
00:52:51.679 --> 00:52:53.079
<v Speaker 2>that's a that's a good double for this.

1004
00:52:53.840 --> 00:52:57.119
<v Speaker 1>And it has Marilynd Chambers walking around in a fur

1005
00:52:57.199 --> 00:53:00.280
<v Speaker 1>coat and right what Canadian City is that I can't

1006
00:53:00.280 --> 00:53:01.679
<v Speaker 1>remember making.

1007
00:53:01.760 --> 00:53:05.159
<v Speaker 2>I liked that this all is like plastic. Just the

1008
00:53:05.199 --> 00:53:08.639
<v Speaker 2>word of Crodenberg is amazing. I love when just to

1009
00:53:08.679 --> 00:53:10.159
<v Speaker 2>be in it for seconds at a time.

1010
00:53:11.679 --> 00:53:13.440
<v Speaker 1>So do you have any films that you think would

1011
00:53:13.440 --> 00:53:14.840
<v Speaker 1>go well with the crazies.

1012
00:53:15.119 --> 00:53:20.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Nightmare City I think is a good one because it's.

1013
00:53:20.079 --> 00:53:22.599
<v Speaker 1>It's almost to see if I've seen that, because I

1014
00:53:22.599 --> 00:53:26.760
<v Speaker 1>get I get movies confused with like Nightmare Beach Nightmare City,

1015
00:53:26.880 --> 00:53:27.639
<v Speaker 1>and I love.

1016
00:53:27.599 --> 00:53:30.519
<v Speaker 2>Nightmare Beach maybe more well that that's a whole other

1017
00:53:30.559 --> 00:53:33.960
<v Speaker 2>show to talk about Tom Jackson, that movie. Imagine if

1018
00:53:34.400 --> 00:53:37.559
<v Speaker 2>somebody took the new, the somewhat nuanced ideas of Ramero

1019
00:53:37.599 --> 00:53:40.079
<v Speaker 2>in this movie and was like, what if we made

1020
00:53:40.239 --> 00:53:42.679
<v Speaker 2>the Italian version? And that's completely what it is. And

1021
00:53:42.719 --> 00:53:45.800
<v Speaker 2>at one point Savini was supposed to director remaking Nightmare

1022
00:53:45.840 --> 00:53:48.199
<v Speaker 2>City if people kick started it and stuff, and I

1023
00:53:48.239 --> 00:53:49.920
<v Speaker 2>was like, this doesn't feel like something that's going to happen.

1024
00:53:50.000 --> 00:53:53.119
<v Speaker 2>So I didn't kickstarter and it hasn't happened. But you know,

1025
00:53:53.119 --> 00:53:56.679
<v Speaker 2>I'm sad because I love I can't wait to hear

1026
00:53:56.679 --> 00:53:57.599
<v Speaker 2>what you think of this movie.

1027
00:53:57.719 --> 00:54:00.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna I'm gonna prower it. I'm gonna add this

1028
00:54:00.360 --> 00:54:00.840
<v Speaker 1>to my wife.

1029
00:54:00.840 --> 00:54:03.320
<v Speaker 2>There is an aerobic scene in that movie that is

1030
00:54:03.480 --> 00:54:07.840
<v Speaker 2>fucking insane. Like there also probably the best dummy drop

1031
00:54:07.840 --> 00:54:10.360
<v Speaker 2>in the history of dummy drops, Oh okay is in

1032
00:54:10.440 --> 00:54:12.320
<v Speaker 2>that movie. Like, when you see it, you'll know it

1033
00:54:12.360 --> 00:54:15.760
<v Speaker 2>won't be a surprise. You'll be like, and also it's

1034
00:54:15.880 --> 00:54:17.920
<v Speaker 2>also a moment where you're like, I did not expect

1035
00:54:18.000 --> 00:54:21.000
<v Speaker 2>that to happen in a very significant way that doesn't

1036
00:54:21.039 --> 00:54:23.880
<v Speaker 2>happen in other movies. That's my only spoilers for a

1037
00:54:23.920 --> 00:54:26.119
<v Speaker 2>Night Mercy. I God of love that movie. I'm so excited.

1038
00:54:26.440 --> 00:54:28.400
<v Speaker 2>I wish I had never seen it so I could

1039
00:54:28.400 --> 00:54:30.119
<v Speaker 2>see it again for the first time. That's how much

1040
00:54:30.159 --> 00:54:33.239
<v Speaker 2>I love that movie, right. I brought in some all

1041
00:54:33.320 --> 00:54:35.639
<v Speaker 2>titles for this movie too, I thought would be helpful

1042
00:54:36.039 --> 00:54:38.079
<v Speaker 2>because I like how the rest of the world sees it.

1043
00:54:38.079 --> 00:54:41.920
<v Speaker 2>In Brazil it was called the Extermination Army. Okay, that

1044
00:54:41.920 --> 00:54:48.760
<v Speaker 2>that makes sense right. In Finland Taste of Death or

1045
00:54:48.920 --> 00:54:52.800
<v Speaker 2>all infected will be destroyed, which sounds like like you'll

1046
00:54:52.840 --> 00:54:56.360
<v Speaker 2>notice by the trail of the Dead cover band. In

1047
00:54:56.440 --> 00:54:59.320
<v Speaker 2>France it was either called Experiment two thousand, which dig

1048
00:54:59.360 --> 00:55:03.119
<v Speaker 2>it or not living Heuristic. Yeah, well there's another really

1049
00:55:03.199 --> 00:55:07.480
<v Speaker 2>futuristic one coming, not Eve Living mad Men. Yeah, but

1050
00:55:07.840 --> 00:55:13.000
<v Speaker 2>Quarantine the Sky Rain Death. That's from Greece Italy. The

1051
00:55:13.000 --> 00:55:15.440
<v Speaker 2>city will be destroyed at dawn. That's that's a fucking

1052
00:55:15.440 --> 00:55:16.719
<v Speaker 2>great title, is what that is?

1053
00:55:17.079 --> 00:55:17.199
<v Speaker 4>Uh?

1054
00:55:17.800 --> 00:55:22.440
<v Speaker 2>In Mexico is called Collapse brutal Extermination. In Portugal, war

1055
00:55:22.519 --> 00:55:25.559
<v Speaker 2>on the Virus of Madness. But only Canada could come

1056
00:55:25.639 --> 00:55:28.719
<v Speaker 2>up with the best title, Cosmos eight five, eight nine

1057
00:55:32.440 --> 00:55:34.320
<v Speaker 2>or eight five by. When I read that, I was

1058
00:55:34.360 --> 00:55:36.480
<v Speaker 2>like Jesus Christ, I would go see that movie in

1059
00:55:36.480 --> 00:55:38.920
<v Speaker 2>a fucking heartbeat, because it sounds like what am I

1060
00:55:38.960 --> 00:55:41.199
<v Speaker 2>going to see? Like, I have no idea.

1061
00:55:41.400 --> 00:55:44.400
<v Speaker 1>I wonder how I played in any other country.

1062
00:55:44.880 --> 00:55:52.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it were crazy, that's what they thought. Probably. I

1063
00:55:52.679 --> 00:55:55.280
<v Speaker 2>have a couple questions that I came up with for this,

1064
00:55:55.320 --> 00:55:59.440
<v Speaker 2>and I thought it would be interesting to discuss. One

1065
00:55:59.519 --> 00:56:03.880
<v Speaker 2>is you know, Ramero like really leans heavily into the

1066
00:56:03.880 --> 00:56:06.719
<v Speaker 2>post Vietnam and Watergate cynicism here. Do you think the

1067
00:56:06.760 --> 00:56:10.519
<v Speaker 2>faceless military portrayal on this movie was the critique of

1068
00:56:10.599 --> 00:56:14.039
<v Speaker 2>government incompetence or that they're not incompetent, that they're just

1069
00:56:14.360 --> 00:56:16.880
<v Speaker 2>like you said, outright horrible two people.

1070
00:56:18.199 --> 00:56:22.480
<v Speaker 1>It's probably not deliberately incompetent. I don't know, it can

1071
00:56:22.519 --> 00:56:26.239
<v Speaker 1>be both. I guess you can be incompetent and malicious

1072
00:56:26.320 --> 00:56:27.239
<v Speaker 1>at the same time.

1073
00:56:27.519 --> 00:56:30.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but also, like you said, he gives that the

1074
00:56:30.400 --> 00:56:34.119
<v Speaker 2>one guy does tell what the little girl get her toy? Yeah,

1075
00:56:34.280 --> 00:56:36.960
<v Speaker 2>that it's not there are some shades of gray in

1076
00:56:37.039 --> 00:56:44.000
<v Speaker 2>between what he's showing. I think too, it's interesting to like,

1077
00:56:44.400 --> 00:56:48.920
<v Speaker 2>whatever behavior you do against the government, if you don't comply, obviously,

1078
00:56:48.920 --> 00:56:51.159
<v Speaker 2>like you said, they can kill you because they're like, oh,

1079
00:56:51.159 --> 00:56:55.679
<v Speaker 2>well he's doing you know, he's violent and he's attacking authority,

1080
00:56:55.760 --> 00:56:59.199
<v Speaker 2>and he must have the virus. Did everybody that they

1081
00:56:59.280 --> 00:57:01.320
<v Speaker 2>kill have the virus? I'm good to say no, no,

1082
00:57:01.440 --> 00:57:04.559
<v Speaker 2>and yeah, yeah, if you the village to save it,

1083
00:57:04.599 --> 00:57:05.079
<v Speaker 2>as they.

1084
00:57:04.920 --> 00:57:07.280
<v Speaker 1>Say, right, that's what Well, that was the rationale, is

1085
00:57:07.280 --> 00:57:10.360
<v Speaker 1>that you would have to be insane to not let

1086
00:57:10.360 --> 00:57:13.760
<v Speaker 1>the government come in and handle this. If you're against

1087
00:57:14.000 --> 00:57:17.320
<v Speaker 1>what we're trying to do, then you obviously are infected

1088
00:57:17.400 --> 00:57:21.400
<v Speaker 1>and you know, insane, which is not the case just

1089
00:57:21.400 --> 00:57:23.519
<v Speaker 1>because you don't agree with what the government's doing.

1090
00:57:24.000 --> 00:57:26.400
<v Speaker 2>This is different than like why this isn't a zombie

1091
00:57:26.440 --> 00:57:30.599
<v Speaker 2>movie too, is like, uh, the line between the sane

1092
00:57:30.719 --> 00:57:33.800
<v Speaker 2>and the crazies is on both sides is really thin.

1093
00:57:34.239 --> 00:57:37.000
<v Speaker 2>And it's also like you could be you could start

1094
00:57:37.239 --> 00:57:41.880
<v Speaker 2>as a government person and then be infected right and

1095
00:57:41.920 --> 00:57:43.840
<v Speaker 2>then you're not on the right sideywhere. But if once

1096
00:57:43.880 --> 00:57:46.840
<v Speaker 2>you're if you're already the infected, you're stuck. Do you

1097
00:57:46.840 --> 00:57:48.079
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean? Like for your wife.

1098
00:57:49.039 --> 00:57:50.840
<v Speaker 1>I guess one last thing we did not talk about

1099
00:57:50.960 --> 00:57:54.079
<v Speaker 1>was the lady with the knitting needle. I'll have to

1100
00:57:54.079 --> 00:57:54.719
<v Speaker 1>talk about her.

1101
00:57:55.440 --> 00:57:57.679
<v Speaker 2>That picture was anytime you would see a picture of

1102
00:57:57.719 --> 00:58:00.519
<v Speaker 2>the crazies in fangoria or like in a book, they

1103
00:58:00.519 --> 00:58:02.199
<v Speaker 2>would put that in. As a kid, when I saw

1104
00:58:02.239 --> 00:58:04.800
<v Speaker 2>the trailer, you know, the TV commercial for this, I

1105
00:58:04.840 --> 00:58:07.280
<v Speaker 2>always thought, oh, that guy is trying to attack her

1106
00:58:07.400 --> 00:58:09.599
<v Speaker 2>that because he looks like a stormtrooper or like, do

1107
00:58:09.639 --> 00:58:12.320
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean, like a creature and so

1108
00:58:12.440 --> 00:58:15.280
<v Speaker 2>whatever he like comes in, I'm like, oh no, but

1109
00:58:15.360 --> 00:58:17.920
<v Speaker 2>now when you see it, right, that seems amazing and

1110
00:58:18.039 --> 00:58:21.119
<v Speaker 2>just like how slow the blood comes out. It's so good.

1111
00:58:21.559 --> 00:58:24.400
<v Speaker 1>He's he's I'm from the government and I'm here to help.

1112
00:58:25.119 --> 00:58:26.119
<v Speaker 1>She's not buying it.

1113
00:58:26.800 --> 00:58:26.880
<v Speaker 3>No.

1114
00:58:27.480 --> 00:58:29.480
<v Speaker 2>At the end, when David hides his community, you know,

1115
00:58:29.519 --> 00:58:32.280
<v Speaker 2>he's like the last mystery of the town. Do you

1116
00:58:32.400 --> 00:58:36.840
<v Speaker 2>think that this movie ends with no hope or is

1117
00:58:36.880 --> 00:58:39.239
<v Speaker 2>there like a little bit of hope that something that

1118
00:58:39.280 --> 00:58:41.199
<v Speaker 2>I kind of go back and forth on after I

1119
00:58:41.239 --> 00:58:41.679
<v Speaker 2>watched it.

1120
00:58:42.199 --> 00:58:44.840
<v Speaker 1>Well, I did not find any hope, So maybe I

1121
00:58:44.840 --> 00:58:47.280
<v Speaker 1>would need to rewatch it to look at it that way,

1122
00:58:47.320 --> 00:58:50.119
<v Speaker 1>because I feel like he's they're never going to know

1123
00:58:50.840 --> 00:58:53.440
<v Speaker 1>that he has the immunity that they're looking for.

1124
00:58:54.360 --> 00:58:57.199
<v Speaker 2>It's funny because like it's I was just talking to

1125
00:58:57.280 --> 00:59:00.599
<v Speaker 2>Bill about a couple weeks, like last weekend about the

1126
00:59:00.960 --> 00:59:05.480
<v Speaker 2>you know, there's this unreleased, non edited and ending of

1127
00:59:05.599 --> 00:59:08.159
<v Speaker 2>don that's like, you know, the dark ending where you know,

1128
00:59:08.280 --> 00:59:11.400
<v Speaker 2>everybody killed, everybody dies or kills themselves, And I'm like,

1129
00:59:11.639 --> 00:59:15.239
<v Speaker 2>to me, that's like Romara's heart is even when things

1130
00:59:15.239 --> 00:59:18.039
<v Speaker 2>seem at they're worse in his movies, there's always a

1131
00:59:18.239 --> 00:59:21.800
<v Speaker 2>like but also this, you know, also these people got

1132
00:59:21.840 --> 00:59:24.679
<v Speaker 2>out or also this beat Mingham. That's why the main

1133
00:59:24.719 --> 00:59:27.039
<v Speaker 2>reason I well a lot of reasons, but that I

1134
00:59:27.119 --> 00:59:30.719
<v Speaker 2>hate the remake of Down because even though they get out,

1135
00:59:30.760 --> 00:59:33.199
<v Speaker 2>there's like a zombies on the island and they're screwed again,

1136
00:59:33.599 --> 00:59:36.199
<v Speaker 2>like there's no hope, Like I don't know, maybe it's

1137
00:59:36.280 --> 00:59:39.880
<v Speaker 2>the Catholic, do you know what I mean? Like that,

1138
00:59:40.039 --> 00:59:42.239
<v Speaker 2>Like I'm like I would like there to be like, Okay,

1139
00:59:42.280 --> 00:59:44.559
<v Speaker 2>everybody can die and I'm fine with it, but like

1140
00:59:44.639 --> 00:59:47.280
<v Speaker 2>maybe one person gets out, like or maybe something happens.

1141
00:59:48.000 --> 00:59:52.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, so that's the craziest anything else you have

1142
00:59:52.400 --> 00:59:52.679
<v Speaker 1>on that?

1143
00:59:53.599 --> 00:59:58.519
<v Speaker 2>No would you ask? Yeah? So if if someone said

1144
00:59:58.559 --> 01:00:00.880
<v Speaker 2>you should I watch this, did you say yes or no?

1145
01:00:01.000 --> 01:00:05.039
<v Speaker 1>Yes? I would say definitely yes, especially I think people

1146
01:00:05.079 --> 01:00:07.079
<v Speaker 1>will get more out of it in the post COVID

1147
01:00:07.119 --> 01:00:09.639
<v Speaker 1>world then maybe they would have beforehand.

1148
01:00:11.320 --> 01:00:15.000
<v Speaker 2>This made me also reevaluate as I watched it. I'm

1149
01:00:15.039 --> 01:00:18.800
<v Speaker 2>so like, if you watch Romero post day or now,

1150
01:00:18.800 --> 01:00:23.440
<v Speaker 2>I'd say post let's say post Creep Show two, it's there,

1151
01:00:23.480 --> 01:00:25.760
<v Speaker 2>aren't that many good ones, like I don't like Monkey Shines.

1152
01:00:25.920 --> 01:00:28.039
<v Speaker 2>There's a few other ones I don't like. And it's

1153
01:00:28.079 --> 01:00:30.880
<v Speaker 2>like so growing up in that era, I was like

1154
01:00:31.079 --> 01:00:34.079
<v Speaker 2>always let down that he wasn't making like movies as

1155
01:00:34.079 --> 01:00:36.960
<v Speaker 2>good as Dawn. But now that I'm older and I know,

1156
01:00:37.079 --> 01:00:39.559
<v Speaker 2>like you know how long you work at a job,

1157
01:00:39.599 --> 01:00:42.920
<v Speaker 2>and that's tired. Hit, Like I've really was unfair on Romero.

1158
01:00:42.960 --> 01:00:45.920
<v Speaker 2>If he only made Night, he would be incredible, you

1159
01:00:45.920 --> 01:00:48.000
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean, Like if he only made Night

1160
01:00:48.119 --> 01:00:51.840
<v Speaker 2>Dawn and I would say Season of the Witch. This

1161
01:00:51.960 --> 01:00:55.599
<v Speaker 2>movie Martin's my favorite of his movies. But it's like

1162
01:00:55.880 --> 01:00:58.400
<v Speaker 2>Man in the same way people I call where Ghente

1163
01:00:58.440 --> 01:01:01.320
<v Speaker 2>fell off, Like no, these dudes had heavy Not many

1164
01:01:01.360 --> 01:01:04.800
<v Speaker 2>directors get like eight great movies like eight with the

1165
01:01:04.840 --> 01:01:06.880
<v Speaker 2>top of the live movies. What was I think, like

1166
01:01:06.920 --> 01:01:09.840
<v Speaker 2>the sixteen year old meet that in so and that

1167
01:01:10.000 --> 01:01:12.000
<v Speaker 2>like Jerky that I was like Georgia Merrick co On,

1168
01:01:12.199 --> 01:01:14.199
<v Speaker 2>if I could reinvent the world every time you made

1169
01:01:14.199 --> 01:01:16.559
<v Speaker 2>your movie. What a pressure to put on a man.

1170
01:01:17.199 --> 01:01:20.440
<v Speaker 2>He made creep Show. That's good enough, young Sam, good enough.

1171
01:01:20.559 --> 01:01:21.079
<v Speaker 2>Let him go.

1172
01:01:21.840 --> 01:01:25.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm looking forward to more, and we'll have more

1173
01:01:25.239 --> 01:01:27.079
<v Speaker 1>RAMERI talk when we get to Martin, which.

1174
01:01:26.920 --> 01:01:29.960
<v Speaker 2>I again I have you have not Stan.

1175
01:01:30.639 --> 01:01:32.519
<v Speaker 1>No, I'm gonna wait until we cover it here.

1176
01:01:32.599 --> 01:01:34.920
<v Speaker 4>So this is all I'm gonna fly down to your

1177
01:01:34.920 --> 01:01:39.480
<v Speaker 4>house and watch it with This is all up to you,

1178
01:01:39.559 --> 01:01:42.000
<v Speaker 4>and you were ready to talk about it. I will

1179
01:01:42.039 --> 01:01:42.679
<v Speaker 4>be watching it.

1180
01:01:42.960 --> 01:01:46.320
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god. I do you know how excited I

1181
01:01:46.320 --> 01:01:50.840
<v Speaker 2>am for someone to not have seen Martin to experience

1182
01:01:50.880 --> 01:01:54.480
<v Speaker 2>it for the first time. Oh my god, that is amazing.

1183
01:01:55.320 --> 01:01:57.440
<v Speaker 1>Well, what we will be talking about next time is

1184
01:01:57.559 --> 01:01:59.400
<v Speaker 1>when we have talked about it already, as I Drink

1185
01:01:59.440 --> 01:02:04.480
<v Speaker 1>Your Blood and that maybe I don't know, we'll see

1186
01:02:04.639 --> 01:02:07.880
<v Speaker 1>I would say it's could it be my favorite film

1187
01:02:07.960 --> 01:02:10.920
<v Speaker 1>in this book? I don't know. Maybe it is definitely

1188
01:02:11.039 --> 01:02:15.960
<v Speaker 1>up there, and I've rewatched it and I loved it

1189
01:02:16.079 --> 01:02:19.199
<v Speaker 1>just as much the second time. But we do have

1190
01:02:19.239 --> 01:02:22.280
<v Speaker 1>the connection. Again, Lynn Lowry is in I Drink Your Blood.

1191
01:02:22.360 --> 01:02:24.840
<v Speaker 1>She was in this one. And there was another connection

1192
01:02:24.920 --> 01:02:27.320
<v Speaker 1>I thought of is that both films have a scene

1193
01:02:27.320 --> 01:02:28.920
<v Speaker 1>where someone sets themselves on fire.

1194
01:02:29.239 --> 01:02:32.360
<v Speaker 2>I have a spoiler for next week, though, I would

1195
01:02:32.400 --> 01:02:36.039
<v Speaker 2>say the first minute and a half of I Drink

1196
01:02:36.079 --> 01:02:38.679
<v Speaker 2>Your Blood are the greatest thing to ever happened to

1197
01:02:38.719 --> 01:02:40.840
<v Speaker 2>ever be filmed? Like when there are and he's like,

1198
01:02:40.960 --> 01:02:43.880
<v Speaker 2>Satan is an acid out. I was the first time

1199
01:02:43.920 --> 01:02:46.400
<v Speaker 2>I saw it was like Jesus christis movie is everything

1200
01:02:46.559 --> 01:02:49.519
<v Speaker 2>like it hasn't even started yet, and I love everything

1201
01:02:49.559 --> 01:02:54.400
<v Speaker 2>about this movie. It's such a visceral love. So yeah, spoiler,

1202
01:02:54.519 --> 01:02:56.760
<v Speaker 2>we're both good to like gush over probably the next

1203
01:02:56.760 --> 01:03:01.519
<v Speaker 2>week's movie. I think these movies. Is this like you

1204
01:03:01.559 --> 01:03:04.400
<v Speaker 2>know how in old DC comics when you had Earth

1205
01:03:04.440 --> 01:03:06.800
<v Speaker 2>one or two? Earth two is just kind of different, right,

1206
01:03:07.760 --> 01:03:10.880
<v Speaker 2>Will next week's movie be the Earth too version of

1207
01:03:10.920 --> 01:03:13.960
<v Speaker 2>this week? Not this week's but this episode, I should say,

1208
01:03:14.119 --> 01:03:17.960
<v Speaker 2>this episode's movie. It feels like, yeah, they both have

1209
01:03:18.079 --> 01:03:22.000
<v Speaker 2>man lowery. They both have something said on fire like

1210
01:03:21.159 --> 01:03:25.159
<v Speaker 2>the people going insane and out of there. They do

1211
01:03:25.280 --> 01:03:30.800
<v Speaker 2>not have kids wacky high jinks with his dog meat

1212
01:03:30.840 --> 01:03:35.840
<v Speaker 2>Pie injecting. That is the craziest idea that starts other

1213
01:03:35.880 --> 01:03:39.360
<v Speaker 2>engraves of death. Both of those are like crazy, like

1214
01:03:39.480 --> 01:03:42.639
<v Speaker 2>we've run out of ideas for zombie movies. What if

1215
01:03:42.719 --> 01:03:48.440
<v Speaker 2>it was infected? So there's not one vegan in that

1216
01:03:48.480 --> 01:03:50.559
<v Speaker 2>groupoil next week?

1217
01:03:52.000 --> 01:03:55.960
<v Speaker 1>No, someone didn't, Well, well we'll talk about it. We'll

1218
01:03:55.960 --> 01:03:58.239
<v Speaker 1>talk about Okay, So I don't know if he was

1219
01:03:58.239 --> 01:03:59.840
<v Speaker 1>a vegan, just.

1220
01:04:00.079 --> 01:04:02.239
<v Speaker 2>That would be that would be the modern twenty if

1221
01:04:02.280 --> 01:04:04.679
<v Speaker 2>they made the twenty eleven remake it was too dark

1222
01:04:04.719 --> 01:04:08.119
<v Speaker 2>to see a staying music in it. Yeah, that's that

1223
01:04:08.159 --> 01:04:09.000
<v Speaker 2>would happen in that.

1224
01:04:10.159 --> 01:04:13.559
<v Speaker 1>So join us next time for Drink Your Blood. And

1225
01:04:14.280 --> 01:04:16.679
<v Speaker 1>I guess we should try to plug something. I did

1226
01:04:16.800 --> 01:04:18.760
<v Speaker 1>send that first episode down there, like you know, like

1227
01:04:18.960 --> 01:04:22.480
<v Speaker 1>honest suggests you plug the things that you have before

1228
01:04:22.480 --> 01:04:25.519
<v Speaker 1>you sign off. So I have absolutely nothing other than

1229
01:04:25.519 --> 01:04:31.159
<v Speaker 1>this podcast and my letter boxed account, which is as hearsy,

1230
01:04:31.679 --> 01:04:34.239
<v Speaker 1>and you never know, sometimes I pop up writing for

1231
01:04:34.320 --> 01:04:36.320
<v Speaker 1>Sam Side. I wish I had more time to do

1232
01:04:36.320 --> 01:04:39.079
<v Speaker 1>that lately. Chattanooga Film festivals coming up, and I would

1233
01:04:39.079 --> 01:04:41.960
<v Speaker 1>love to write some stuff about that, but I just

1234
01:04:42.000 --> 01:04:43.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if that's so, if I'm gonna have

1235
01:04:43.480 --> 01:04:44.079
<v Speaker 1>time for it.

1236
01:04:44.000 --> 01:04:46.320
<v Speaker 2>I can't. That's my favorite festival of the year, mind you.

1237
01:04:46.800 --> 01:04:49.880
<v Speaker 2>It's because they make it's such a great experience of

1238
01:04:49.920 --> 01:04:54.760
<v Speaker 2>like the appworks and like better than huge fests, and

1239
01:04:54.880 --> 01:04:58.199
<v Speaker 2>like the Midnight Movie every the Mystery or The Red Eye.

1240
01:04:58.519 --> 01:04:59.000
<v Speaker 2>The Red Eye.

1241
01:04:59.079 --> 01:05:03.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I've watched so much The Divine enforcer, obsession, a

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<v Speaker 1>taste of fear. These were things that it might.

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<v Speaker 2>Be my favorite.

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<v Speaker 1>Jolly well, it has a what's the needle drop?

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<v Speaker 3>In that?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, there's Huey Lewis? Is it?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it?

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<v Speaker 4>He?

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<v Speaker 2>In that one?

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<v Speaker 1>There's another? No, it's like, uh, I think Midnight.

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<v Speaker 2>Bye Yeah by Byfferent Foreigner. Yeah, Lewis is in uh

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<v Speaker 2>too Beautiful to Die? Uh stuck on news, in which

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, what I don't like when recognizable music

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<v Speaker 2>is in my Jolley right, and it's always like kid

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<v Speaker 2>Creole and the Coconuts in those movies, or like, uh, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>here's a late Chicago Post Peter Sara song that Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyways, okay, so what do you have to plug? Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna talk about Chattanooga Film Festival on your site.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna be doing Chattanooga Film Festival, I say too,

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<v Speaker 2>And I can't wait. I really should have just called

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<v Speaker 2>off from work, but again I'll do what I always do,

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<v Speaker 2>just watch too many movies, h okay, and being spot

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<v Speaker 2>movies is where you go?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, ns men, or you're hearing her on Instagram and

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<v Speaker 1>all the everything, everything.

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<v Speaker 2>Other than my Facebook, because my Facebook's always been in

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<v Speaker 2>my name, but people even on Facebook or the kids listening.

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<v Speaker 1>My wife is on there. That's when I'm on there

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<v Speaker 1>because she'll send me stuff on Messenger as how she can.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how she communicates with me. Social media wized, So

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<v Speaker 1>can you join a different social media so I can

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<v Speaker 1>just leave Facebook?

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<v Speaker 2>I agree with you if there was another social media

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<v Speaker 2>that allows you to easily send invites when you want

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<v Speaker 2>people to come over and do something, and told you

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<v Speaker 2>people's birthdays. These are both incredible things because I I

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<v Speaker 2>would not know what people's birthdays are, so having them

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<v Speaker 2>on Facebook, there has to be a better tech doing this.

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<v Speaker 2>Like it's like, hey, I hate everything else about Imagine

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<v Speaker 2>if you were a kid and they said there's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be this thing that you're gonna fucking hate and then

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<v Speaker 2>people kill themselves over cool. But y'all know what people's

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<v Speaker 2>birthdays are, right, Mike, you know what? Sign me up? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>All right? Join us next time for I drink your

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<v Speaker 1>blood by y'all, see, I've got another If you like, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>I I'm just going to get out right here,