Speaker 1: In the world where fairways meet the airwaves, where birdies
Speaker 1: and banker collide. Welcome to the show that takes you
Speaker 1: beyond the clubhouse and onto the green. This is Balls
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Speaker 1: swing tells the story and every part has its postchline.
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Speaker 2: The Magician. Alright, ladies and gentlemen, it is yet another Wednesday,
Speaker 2: and welcome to Balls and Teas. It is the one
Speaker 2: and only twenty twe the Magician, the boy with a
Speaker 2: lot of flight. I am a classic man.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: Am I so happy to be here today because seven
Speaker 2: days have already passed since I engaged with you guys,
Speaker 2: and I have to tell you the last conversation was
Speaker 2: spot on. It was hot man. I have to give
Speaker 2: a big ups to our previous guest, Jason Row. Jason Row,
Speaker 2: I mean he gave us insights when it comes to
Speaker 2: the latest tech and equipment and now how necessary or
Speaker 2: how imperative fittings are, whether you're professional, whether you're an amateur,
Speaker 2: whether you just want to test the waters, when it
Speaker 2: comes to golf. He gave us a lot of insight.
Speaker 2: And here we are. It's a new week. It's a Wednesday.
Speaker 2: For some people, the weekend is starting today. For some
Speaker 2: it is only beginning. So let me just start off
Speaker 2: by saying, ladies and gentlemen, today we are joined by
Speaker 2: a guest, and she is an expert when it comes
Speaker 2: to events management, events planning. So the biggest thing around
Speaker 2: the golf course that people don't understand or something that
Speaker 2: really really consumes a lot of time and energy is
Speaker 2: planning a golf day, and our guest today will be
Speaker 2: giving tips on how to make sure that God they
Speaker 2: is a success. So, ladies and gentlemen, without any feather
Speaker 2: or you, please allow me the opportunity to introduce our
Speaker 2: guests for today, Nana Jobe. Hello, Nana, I'm gootting yourself.
Speaker 4: I'm all right.
Speaker 5: Thank you.
Speaker 2: Awesome stuff. Awesome Nana. Let me just start off by
Speaker 2: saying thank you, thank you, thank you for making time
Speaker 2: to join us, and a big thank you though to
Speaker 2: your loved ones, your colleagues, and everyone around you who
Speaker 2: allowed you the opportunity to actually share this moment with us. Right,
Speaker 2: I try to introduce you, But I don't think I
Speaker 2: did just this, man. I mean, you know, I would
Speaker 2: actually prefer you reintroducing yourself to the audience. Let them
Speaker 2: know who you are and how you stumbled across gold
Speaker 2: Saw over to you.
Speaker 5: Thank you Tony, and thank you guys for having me today.
Speaker 5: You know, I always find it difficult and people to
Speaker 5: tell who I am and where I'm from and how
Speaker 5: did I get Yes, but yeah, I'm just a girlman.
Speaker 5: My name is Nana Job, and I'm from just in
Speaker 5: a very small town in Catherence and who happened to
Speaker 5: end up in job work for some reason, trying to
Speaker 5: make life. And then I happened to be in the
Speaker 5: golf industry as my first job and I was away.
Speaker 5: So funny enough when I started in the golf industry
Speaker 5: and I fell in love with it for some reasons.
Speaker 5: When I coat here, I worked for m Park Golf Clubs,
Speaker 5: which was the biggest club at that time. When I
Speaker 5: arrived days and I was I was fascinated, you know,
Speaker 5: being that person who really gets fascinated about stuff. So
Speaker 5: when I worked for the club, I always wanted to
Speaker 5: do beyond then what I was hired for. Yeah, I
Speaker 5: will offer my services to learn other departments, and I
Speaker 5: ended up really been in a club for a very
Speaker 5: long time, which I think it was around seven years,
Speaker 5: and that's when I got my patient.
Speaker 2: For gold Lovely. And I have to say, I mean,
Speaker 2: it's not a lot of people who would actually extend
Speaker 2: themselves to learn about other things, especially I mean for
Speaker 2: some people it would be a new environment and it's
Speaker 2: scary at times. I mean getting into a world that's
Speaker 2: mainly dominated by men and affluent men, and you know,
Speaker 2: sometimes people's energies rap off badly. But for you to
Speaker 2: actually say, you know what, I am going to stick
Speaker 2: it and I'm going to go the extra mile to
Speaker 2: make sure that I put myself out there and I
Speaker 2: learned as much as I could with god Father, I
Speaker 2: think it shows a lot of bravery. So currently, Nana,
Speaker 2: I mean, sure you've been in the in this industry
Speaker 2: for quite some time or what what been around.
Speaker 5: Being around And at that time, I was still young man.
Speaker 5: I was still coming up from you know, your college life,
Speaker 5: your pasity life. I was still still yeah, And I
Speaker 5: remember when I left home, I didn't know why I
Speaker 5: was coming to job work. I just wanted to work.
Speaker 5: And at that time, when I got the job, I
Speaker 5: was just looking around and I didn't have a specific
Speaker 5: energy to say, you know what, I'm going to look
Speaker 5: for golf in the street. By the way, I'm coming
Speaker 5: from the rural areas, which I had no absolutely idea
Speaker 5: about golf. When you tell people about golf, they will
Speaker 5: be like, why do I hit the poll.
Speaker 4: And follow it?
Speaker 5: I didn't make sense at that time. And when I
Speaker 5: realized because of the experience and because of the person,
Speaker 5: and I became in love with the whole situation, and
Speaker 5: I realized, no, man, there's more into it. It's people
Speaker 5: that you meet, it's you know, it's it's a lot
Speaker 5: that really got me wanting to invest.
Speaker 2: In it, you know, and I mean just for interest sake.
Speaker 2: Do you also play golf or do you.
Speaker 4: Just an amateur?
Speaker 5: But I play golf, of course there for a woman,
Speaker 5: my handicap doesn't look so bad. But each and every day,
Speaker 5: the new day, we're trying. You know, golf can be
Speaker 5: very personal at time. When you fell today, tomorrow you
Speaker 5: come with a different energy and you want to do
Speaker 5: better than yesterday. So I'm still growing. I'm still growing,
Speaker 5: and I hope that for us women, we we tend
Speaker 5: to look at it differently one day so that we
Speaker 5: have you can attest to that that we don't have
Speaker 5: much women that are playing golf and math. So I hope,
Speaker 5: I hope I can get to the chat someday. Well.
Speaker 5: Not something that I do constantly, but I do it
Speaker 5: because I need to understand to connect the puzzle with
Speaker 5: my work so that everything makes sense.
Speaker 2: No one, and you know what continue pace viewing and
Speaker 2: also figure corner if I can put it in simpletons,
Speaker 2: because I believe that golf is more like your profession.
Speaker 2: The more you keep doing what you do best is
Speaker 2: the more you become better read it.
Speaker 4: Hmm.
Speaker 2: So Nana, we want to know, man, A lot of
Speaker 2: people are trying to understand the planning, the organization, the
Speaker 2: management of golf day, how much work it goes goes
Speaker 2: into it, because you know, many times we think a
Speaker 2: man just book a golf course and then get players,
Speaker 2: and people don't really look at the other administrative things
Speaker 2: as well as the management of the entire day as
Speaker 2: a whole to say how much stress it actually puts
Speaker 2: on one. So with you being in that particular field
Speaker 2: and understanding it more intricate than our listeners or our
Speaker 2: audience and for those who actually would like to explore
Speaker 2: that as a career option. I mean, sometimes we don't
Speaker 2: know what we want to do or where we want
Speaker 2: to find ourselves. So hearing someone speaking of something, it
Speaker 2: can actually trigger something in you and say, you know
Speaker 2: what I want to be just like Nana.
Speaker 5: Yeah. I also think that you really need to understand
Speaker 5: the spot and also understand the type of niche that
Speaker 5: you're dealing with. And really there's nothing much and complicated.
Speaker 5: You just need to know what you're doing. And on
Speaker 5: top of it, I think that creativity around golf will
Speaker 5: make if you if you're taking golf as your career
Speaker 5: or maybe as an organizer or you want to you know,
Speaker 5: make it make sense. There's creativity around God, you need
Speaker 5: to be really really creative. As much as organizing have
Speaker 5: so much work, there is so much work, Like you
Speaker 5: don't make up tomorrow and say, you know what this weekend,
Speaker 5: I just want to have a gold day, you know,
Speaker 5: I know players and let me just gather them and
Speaker 5: we go, we go to go. A day is the
Speaker 5: court to go, you know?
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: It takes roughly three months to do the planning if
Speaker 5: you're fit enough otherwise it's more than that. Usually usually
Speaker 5: it takes like six weeks together the whole situation. Remember
Speaker 5: in that because when you are out of from my experience,
Speaker 5: when I get golf gigs or maybe I do different
Speaker 5: golf days, so it would be like your social gold day,
Speaker 5: it would be like your networking will be like your
Speaker 5: business corporate gold day. But mostly I'm so fonder for
Speaker 5: fundraising golf days for some reasons and because I am
Speaker 5: attached to different homes that I usually give back to,
Speaker 5: So I do a lot of charity gold days than
Speaker 5: just corporate golf day. So it takes you to know
Speaker 5: who do you need to approach for that certain reason
Speaker 5: why you're doing it fund raising, and then it takes
Speaker 5: you to know, okay, this is the target, this is
Speaker 5: this charity, maybe stay Home wants to achieve the setting goal.
Speaker 5: And then how do I become an impact and who
Speaker 5: do I think that can really put a hand in
Speaker 5: this and make this happen. It really takes a lot
Speaker 5: of thinking, a lot of planning, and also you need
Speaker 5: to have your project planning correctly because otherwise your gothe
Speaker 5: on a day will be a mess. I'm talking about
Speaker 5: your registration I'm talking about you during the day, I'm
Speaker 5: talking about your priceising. It's a lot, it's a lot.
Speaker 5: But I think that when you get the right team
Speaker 5: and you get the people that really understand, because it's
Speaker 5: not really a large If you will get the team
Speaker 5: that really understand what needs to be done, they will
Speaker 5: just get it done and make your players happy because
Speaker 5: then there's no confusion when people are doing whatever they
Speaker 5: need to do on the day. But the whole blenning
Speaker 5: it just needs you to be on your toes and
Speaker 5: make sure that you get the right people to participate
Speaker 5: on that day.
Speaker 2: And I would also presume that time is very vital
Speaker 2: when it comes to such events, because obviously around the
Speaker 2: golf course, time management is one of the main factors.
Speaker 2: Players are constantly being reminded of time and not delaying
Speaker 2: the court. So if I may just ask, like if
Speaker 2: you were to say it from the top of your head,
Speaker 2: to say, how many people would actually be required in
Speaker 2: a team to organize a successful, fulfilled golf day.
Speaker 5: Three months?
Speaker 2: So, like.
Speaker 5: You mean people to play on the.
Speaker 2: At gold the organizing team or the organizing committee.
Speaker 5: Oh, the organizing team. No, you don't really need to
Speaker 5: have a big team.
Speaker 4: Hey you need.
Speaker 5: Yo, let me see. Maybe a team of eight.
Speaker 2: Okay, no, it's not it's not too bad, it's not bad.
Speaker 5: Yeah, maybe a team of eight that really knows what
Speaker 5: they're doing. A five is balanced, A five is balanced. However,
Speaker 5: remember also when you do your planning. That's another thing.
Speaker 5: If you really want to get to it's not a
Speaker 5: selfish career, you can't. You can't do it alone.
Speaker 4: One thing for sure.
Speaker 5: As much as you want to build your business and
Speaker 5: you want to make it work, and some are somehow
Speaker 5: you call for some some you call someone for reference,
Speaker 5: because you will need a hand. It's a lot to
Speaker 5: deal with as one person. And I'm talking about dealing
Speaker 5: with responsors. You can just imagine. Let's say I'm having
Speaker 5: ten sponsors on a day. If I'm doing it alone,
Speaker 5: I still have like ten people to deal.
Speaker 4: With me alone.
Speaker 5: I still have players talking about one hundreds and forty four,
Speaker 5: two hundreds and sixty a full real. Yeah, you know
Speaker 5: it's a lot. So really you will have to get
Speaker 5: a hand, say somehow.
Speaker 2: That's true, that's true, And I just want to find out.
Speaker 2: I mean, you mentioned that, you know what, From a
Speaker 2: time point of view, three months would be enough to
Speaker 2: actually set up and go up there and make sure
Speaker 2: that everything is in order before the actual day. But
Speaker 2: in those three months, what would you say is the
Speaker 2: most intricate exercise that one has to go through. Would
Speaker 2: it be the course itself itself? Or is it a
Speaker 2: matter of the what do you call the players?
Speaker 6: I think every birth day, because according to the personage,
Speaker 6: I have a client or somebody that says, when I look,
Speaker 6: I want to do a good gad this is what
Speaker 6: I want to do, a goal grate for networking, and
Speaker 6: this is my type of business. Remember when this person
Speaker 6: comes to me, it comes to me as a person
Speaker 6: rather a player, or that there is a gold player
Speaker 6: who doesn't really nothing at all about organizing a world ate,
Speaker 6: and or it's just somebody who knows but don't know
Speaker 6: where to go, you know. And so you look at
Speaker 6: those and say, okay, this is a knowledge or this
Speaker 6: is the information that I have got so far, and
Speaker 6: how do I then navigate?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 5: And then you go back to structure, because I mean
Speaker 5: that's also very important, so that to come out.
Speaker 4: And then.
Speaker 6: Sometimes it's finding players, he says. Then the three is large,
Speaker 6: it's large in a way. Then depends on once you
Speaker 6: want to achieve, right, So you will have people that
Speaker 6: are saying, okay, I have players, don't worry about players,
Speaker 6: but then how do I make this day accessive? Then
Speaker 6: you have to be creative in a way to.
Speaker 5: Say your players, because one thing for sure is that
Speaker 5: most of the people in the industry knows each other.
Speaker 5: So you know this person, Okay, this is the type
Speaker 5: of persons, so definitely his type of people that are
Speaker 5: like best people. So how do I then make this
Speaker 5: day a very fun day for him so that he thinks, oh,
Speaker 5: he feels like he's having a sux is for golf day.
Speaker 5: So you look at things like that, so you come
Speaker 5: up with, you know, creativity in between the things that
Speaker 5: needs to be done on a golf day. It could
Speaker 5: be during the price giving, it could be things that
Speaker 5: are done and the type of responsors that you approach,
Speaker 5: because when I get clients sometimes I still have to
Speaker 5: go back and find the sponsors for them so that
Speaker 5: they achieve their setting goal. Maybe his goal will be
Speaker 5: like you know what, I'm not fundraising anything. I'm paying
Speaker 5: for the full thing, but I just want to build
Speaker 5: a more connection for my business. So you look at
Speaker 5: that person's business and you see, okay, this person is
Speaker 5: connected to certain business and satin business and Gobret can
Speaker 5: invite those type of people and see if they will
Speaker 5: be interested into joining that type of you know, caliber
Speaker 5: and the whole golf day.
Speaker 2: Okay, this is your special team. Now, I'll presume you
Speaker 2: you are in houting, right. What I want to find
Speaker 2: out is that obviously this is your forte. You specialize
Speaker 2: in managing and organizing golf days. Now, I just want
Speaker 2: to find out, presuming that you are based in houting,
Speaker 2: do you also assist individuals or entities outside of houting
Speaker 2: when it comes to organizing these golf days? And if so,
Speaker 2: do you take your team with or do you find
Speaker 2: people that you can actually compile a team within those
Speaker 2: respective areas?
Speaker 4: Yes, I do.
Speaker 5: I do have quite a few golf days outside of Jogak,
Speaker 5: which is also mainly in yeah and which is also.
Speaker 4: Which is my hometown, and I do a lot of those.
Speaker 5: Sometimes I take my team with depending on how it
Speaker 5: looks like and what type of the golf day. We
Speaker 5: didn't need a bigger team. Can it be hindered or
Speaker 5: it's just a group that wants to be played and
Speaker 5: that wants to play and it wants and they don't
Speaker 5: need much to be done, so it really depends. However,
Speaker 5: this year we're really looking into going bigger.
Speaker 4: As I said before that golf because it's a.
Speaker 5: Seasonal sports also and if you're fully doing it, you
Speaker 5: need to be creative in any other case, so we're
Speaker 5: looking into having out of the country tournaments. I'm busy
Speaker 5: with the confirmations. We're looking into do talent in October,
Speaker 5: which is one of the biggest achievements for me this
Speaker 5: year and I'm really looking forward to it.
Speaker 2: Can you take me with Nana? I want to go
Speaker 2: to Thailand.
Speaker 4: Be my guest.
Speaker 2: Be my guest lovely. I'll make sure that I put
Speaker 2: in my my five cents with and help you with
Speaker 2: the organization or whatever that you need.
Speaker 5: I would really love it. And also I'm still learning.
Speaker 5: I think these things. Some of the stuff you don't
Speaker 5: know until you get there. I've never done anything abroad.
Speaker 5: It's going to be my first time. I don't even
Speaker 5: know what I'm doing as much as I didn't know
Speaker 5: what I was doing when.
Speaker 4: I was startying this business. So we'll cross that bridge
Speaker 4: when we get there.
Speaker 5: So I'm not fussy about it, and your two cents
Speaker 5: can really make millions out of it, So I wouldn't.
Speaker 2: Mind, Amandela. I'm coming through. I'm going to Thailand with you.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 2: The reason I'm basically asking is because obviously, on my end, yes,
Speaker 2: I've been playing golf for for decades now, and on
Speaker 2: top of that, I keep on learning as well, every
Speaker 2: single day, so I believe it's It's one of those
Speaker 2: things where the learning cave doesn't end you. You will
Speaker 2: learn from even people who just got into the sport itself.
Speaker 2: They will teach you a thing or two.
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, I'll tell you for free.
Speaker 4: I'm ver a Google fumble.
Speaker 5: Not so long ago, and it was hot, maybe even
Speaker 5: worse than I kept and saying no one's sucker and
Speaker 5: this sport.
Speaker 4: Is not for me. I'm so I do it, and
Speaker 4: for some reasons, you.
Speaker 5: Know, I'm very angry when i look at my scorings
Speaker 5: on the handicap system and I'm like, what is this?
Speaker 2: You know, but it makes sense.
Speaker 4: It's really a personal thing.
Speaker 5: When you are you are passionate about it until you
Speaker 5: make you until you come right at.
Speaker 4: The end of the day.
Speaker 2: You must come right hundred percent. And I mean it
Speaker 2: only makes sense if it's too hot. I wouldn't expect
Speaker 2: anyone to play to the best level. I mean, for instance, myself,
Speaker 2: I only play when it's loudly. When it's hot, I
Speaker 2: don't say I play. I say no, I'm passing time.
Speaker 5: If it's what let's rather do a morning fools. If
Speaker 5: you let me started eleven thirty, oh boy, going to
Speaker 5: be crampy the whole time. It's gonna be a long day,
Speaker 5: I promise you, and I will tell you that you
Speaker 5: robbed me. That's not what I scored day. Yeah, because
Speaker 5: I'm angry at myself.
Speaker 2: Now, I just want to find out none. So obviously,
Speaker 2: in business there's challenges. Right If you were to share
Speaker 2: from your experience as to what are the two or
Speaker 2: three major challenges that one faces in this golf day
Speaker 2: coordination environment or golf day planning environment, what would you
Speaker 2: say are those big, big challenges?
Speaker 5: I will tell you because it's one of the challenges
Speaker 5: that I'm rather facing or recently faced, which I was
Speaker 5: not up for because sometimes, as I said earlier, that
Speaker 5: when you pina go day, there's this period of time
Speaker 5: that consume your time, the time that you would have
Speaker 5: used for something else or maybe organized something else. If
Speaker 5: rather typical reason that maybe a client comes back to
Speaker 5: you and say, you know what, okay, let me let
Speaker 5: me make it a very.
Speaker 4: Very an example that would really make sense.
Speaker 5: Right, my client that I was supposed to do a
Speaker 5: golf Day four in December last year's density because their
Speaker 5: date was clashing with.
Speaker 4: The Network Golf Challenge.
Speaker 5: However, that means I'm not able to run around and
Speaker 5: get enough sponsors from my client because most of the
Speaker 5: sponsors are at the net Bank, right, or most or
Speaker 5: rather most of the players are at the net Bank
Speaker 5: in Sun City, right, So that makes it logically the day.
Speaker 4: Is no longer.
Speaker 5: It's not successful because it's either you get people that
Speaker 5: really won't compromise to be at your goljate because they
Speaker 5: are your friends, or you get a random person that
Speaker 5: really didn't want it to go to some you know,
Speaker 5: so you're still not meeting the numbers anyway, you know,
Speaker 5: And the client comes back to me and said, no,
Speaker 5: I will have to have to push this to next
Speaker 5: day March. Guess what does what does that? What what
Speaker 5: does that do to me? That means I have lost
Speaker 5: three months.
Speaker 4: Of my time?
Speaker 5: Then I would have call to create another gold Dare
Speaker 5: or another event in the midst That's true. You know,
Speaker 5: it could have been out of job back rather so
Speaker 5: that I know, I'm dealing with Devin. That doesn't happen
Speaker 5: it challenge. You get me and this client, I can't.
Speaker 5: I can't really do much what the client wants. The
Speaker 5: client wants, you know, but it compromises me as a
Speaker 5: person that runs a business because then I'm collapsing in
Speaker 5: the and and in the situation that the money that
Speaker 5: I could have potentially made at that time, you know,
Speaker 5: is now due to match December.
Speaker 4: I'm hungry because I couldn't.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, definitely makes sense. Definitely pay sure and
Speaker 2: and and and I mean, just you you you do
Speaker 2: come across such. But I mean the most important thing
Speaker 2: is bouncing back to say, how do I then overcome this?
Speaker 2: How do I come back from this mishap or this oversight? Because,
Speaker 2: like you said, if the if a client insists on something,
Speaker 2: you go out of your way to actually make sure
Speaker 2: that they receive that service or they receive what they want.
Speaker 5: I think, I think the main thing that you need
Speaker 5: to do is to be open minded with such. I
Speaker 5: think everybody that is in a business they know they are.
Speaker 5: They are challenges or possibilities you know, yeah that could
Speaker 5: that they could face according to the type of the
Speaker 5: business that they're running. I think the only thing that
Speaker 5: you could do for yourself at that time when that
Speaker 5: incident happens, you stay, come, You stay focused, because otherwise
Speaker 5: you lose focus in terms of then but in terms
Speaker 5: of how to then deal with the client, because according
Speaker 5: to you, its client's fault, right, But it's reality when
Speaker 5: you look at the business structure, it's reality. So I
Speaker 5: think you need to stay, come, still, provide the good
Speaker 5: services and and know what you're doing, because the moment
Speaker 5: you shift from your your structures or the way that
Speaker 5: you do your business, you're already losing the positivity of
Speaker 5: how the clients looks at you, because you can snap
Speaker 5: if you want and be like, you know what, I'm
Speaker 5: not doing this fans some man pants, you know, But
Speaker 5: remember this client is the same client, especially with the
Speaker 5: type of.
Speaker 4: This business that we're doing. In goal this, I'll tell
Speaker 4: you for free.
Speaker 5: Most of my clients that I have done golf day
Speaker 5: is fault all golfers.
Speaker 4: Hey, Nana, I have had that you did whose whole
Speaker 4: you know? Golf day.
Speaker 5: Look, I'm trying to do you that's how you get
Speaker 5: your business. So the moment just snapped. That means there's
Speaker 5: there's no golf day next month or the next three months.
Speaker 2: Very true.
Speaker 4: So because your.
Speaker 5: Golf day will make you see new new five clients
Speaker 5: that you have never met before, six sponsors that you
Speaker 5: have never dealt with on your previous golf day. So
Speaker 5: just focus, stay in your lane, do what you do best,
Speaker 5: and give what your clients went.
Speaker 2: And you know, when you spoke about reality, I something
Speaker 2: came to my mind to say, Okay, I mean, now,
Speaker 2: like you said, there's certain things that are outside our control. Now,
Speaker 2: one of those factors being the weather itself. I mean,
Speaker 2: I'll presume that you you can plan an amazing, amazing
Speaker 2: event and uh suddenly there's thunder, and as we know,
Speaker 2: you can really play when they're standard. So what then
Speaker 2: happens in the midst of that? How do we then
Speaker 2: go about it? Do we reschedule? Do what do we
Speaker 2: do in that kind of instance?
Speaker 5: I think that then comes to the coordinator, the organizer,
Speaker 5: and the club itself, so that really it happens and
Speaker 5: it's nature.
Speaker 4: You can't really beat yourself about it.
Speaker 5: It's just the communication that you need to speak with
Speaker 5: the club and say, look, this is what happens.
Speaker 4: Can we reschedule our gold date? Then you'll tell us when.
Speaker 5: It's your availability or available date that we can, you know,
Speaker 5: schedule our gold day for So those type of things
Speaker 5: are problems, but problems that you can maneuver around. And
Speaker 5: sometimes the tricky part is that if I'm having one
Speaker 5: hundreds and forty four players.
Speaker 4: Today, which is a full field, and I risk you
Speaker 4: I might end.
Speaker 5: Up with eighty players, you must be open minded about
Speaker 5: it because then that doesn't mean hundred and forty four
Speaker 5: people are available on Friday just because they didn't play.
Speaker 5: People run businesses in this career, in this industry.
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, it's a tough one.
Speaker 4: I know, it's a very I don't know.
Speaker 5: That's why when I tell people about golf, really I
Speaker 5: start by.
Speaker 4: Breathing and say I don't know, because really I don't know.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a lot going on here, It's a lot
Speaker 5: going on.
Speaker 2: Now, let's go for a two minute break, Let's get
Speaker 2: something refreshing, and then now we will be back in
Speaker 2: two minutes. Thank you, thank you.
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Speaker 2: I don't know. Thanks Tony, welcome back and thank you
Speaker 2: for steing with us. No, no, we are in the
Speaker 2: second segment of our episode today and you know, I
Speaker 2: just want to take it a notch up. I mean,
Speaker 2: we we've discussed the aspect of event organizing and like
Speaker 2: you said, it's one one world that will make you
Speaker 2: take numerous breadths before you can even talk about it. Now,
Speaker 2: let's talk about this this lovely, ugly addiction that we have,
Speaker 2: which is the sport itself, all right, right, So I mean,
Speaker 2: like like I said earlier, it's one it's one world
Speaker 2: that has been predominantly dominated by men over time, and
Speaker 2: it's it's very beautiful to actually see women emerging and
Speaker 2: not just the go off us, but doing business around
Speaker 2: the golf course or even uh incorporating golf into that
Speaker 2: business life. So that includes you obviously. Now I want
Speaker 2: to find out. I mean, you are an expect when
Speaker 2: it comes to organizing golf days. And I'm sure you've
Speaker 2: played with numerous people from your client client base, don't
Speaker 2: don't they ever? Like like like you said, you're not
Speaker 2: the best of golfers, but you know you're surviving just
Speaker 2: like me. Don't they ever look at you and be like,
Speaker 2: but no, no, this is what you do every day.
Speaker 2: You're supposed to be like the best when it comes
Speaker 2: to this thing.
Speaker 4: Nah, And I will tell you for free.
Speaker 5: Remember there's less women in golf, so most of the
Speaker 5: time it's either I'm playing with fifteen men in the
Speaker 5: same school, I'm playing with four men in my phoobo
Speaker 5: or whatever.
Speaker 4: The case could be.
Speaker 5: And guess what, I'm the one that gets the softest
Speaker 5: treatment to the course, more more than anyone, you know.
Speaker 4: And sometimes I'll tell take your time, you know, it's.
Speaker 5: I think that's that's the only part that makes me
Speaker 5: go back and try again.
Speaker 4: You know, I would not get mark.
Speaker 5: My friends and the people that I know in the industry,
Speaker 5: they're doing so well, well done, they're doing so great,
Speaker 5: and that's what we need because I was firstly, I
Speaker 5: remember last yesterday and this guy not yesterday, on Friday
Speaker 5: last week when I was playing houting explaining with some
Speaker 5: because you mean, new people every time, and this guy
Speaker 5: says to me, Nana, don't hit so hard to take
Speaker 5: your time, and and literally he was just whispering. It
Speaker 5: wasn't a football story that needed to be discussed, you know, no,
Speaker 5: you know, and and and because I tried so hard
Speaker 5: to hit when I was driving that driver, and those
Speaker 5: guys said to me, you know what, it's not a competition.
Speaker 4: Take your breath forget about you know.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and and and and guess what had passed? And it's.
Speaker 2: Because somebody.
Speaker 5: There's somebody, there's somebody that is telling me nicely, you know.
Speaker 5: And and and mind you you have this challenge of
Speaker 5: how I'm playing with men. You can tell when the
Speaker 5: men hit their drive it's strong. It's it makes the sound,
Speaker 5: you know. So now as a woman, when you heat,
Speaker 5: you'll be like nothing strong. We need my development dulla
Speaker 5: that day because you want a compuy and make sure
Speaker 5: that whatever they name there on their small lagy prize
Speaker 5: giving during the table day on on the halfway house
Speaker 5: or whatever your name is day, because you can't be
Speaker 5: beatty is a strong even though we met.
Speaker 4: So it's always the challenge.
Speaker 5: But the nicer part about it is that even though
Speaker 5: we play with men that really knows golf, but they
Speaker 5: will always tell us the right things, you know.
Speaker 4: So it's not a competition.
Speaker 5: We're not competing with men, but rather we saying, oh,
Speaker 5: I wish I can be the first woman that brings
Speaker 5: more women in this thing.
Speaker 4: It's quite nice. That's how we feel all the time.
Speaker 2: And I think that that's one of the most important
Speaker 2: thing to say. You know what, As a woman who's
Speaker 2: already enjoying golf and UH has seen the benefits of
Speaker 2: golf both from a personal and a professional point of view,
Speaker 2: I believe it's only fair to say, you know what,
Speaker 2: let me bring in other people. Maybe someone can also
Speaker 2: see certain opportunities within this industry and UH that that
Speaker 2: could change their lives as well.
Speaker 4: Mm hmm true that.
Speaker 2: Now, no, no, here, here's here's the golden question that
Speaker 2: I have for you. Right, so you're in houting, you
Speaker 2: played houting, you got your babies and your past, so
Speaker 2: you were on fire on Friday. Now look at how thing.
Speaker 2: Then let's look at home ground a case. Right if
Speaker 2: if if you went to pick a place you you
Speaker 2: can play a corner on a on a weekly basis,
Speaker 2: which one would.
Speaker 5: Because you are testing me, I feel like you're testing
Speaker 5: me golf clubs and care phenomena. I will tell you
Speaker 5: this for free. I think also it's because.
Speaker 4: It's around the court.
Speaker 5: You know, my number one course out of all the
Speaker 5: courses that I played, I think I've played five or six.
Speaker 5: I think my number one in number two, my number
Speaker 5: one in number two, which is opposite according to the map,
Speaker 5: but it's still in case. It's my Princess Grant.
Speaker 4: Princess Grant is my my is my number one.
Speaker 5: And then for some reasons, because I was still new
Speaker 5: in the golf industry.
Speaker 4: And I like the idea of driving a golf cut and.
Speaker 5: You know, I and I hit a tree that that
Speaker 5: was very close to someone's house, and I was the
Speaker 5: golf cut was literally in the window of the dining
Speaker 5: room of the house. But well, the whole number sixteen
Speaker 5: Princess Grands is also perfect.
Speaker 4: I love Princess Grinds. And my second, which that I'm
Speaker 4: going to play.
Speaker 5: This see sometime for a third time and I think
Speaker 5: it's coming to it's becoming My first is Gourri Firm.
Speaker 5: I love Gorifer. Can play garlfarm Is in Midlands. I
Speaker 5: can play Golly Firm any day, every day.
Speaker 2: But I mean the Midlands, I mean the view the
Speaker 2: landscape day is phenomenal. It's phenomenal.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's really I like it.
Speaker 2: I love to play in such an environment.
Speaker 5: And I know right, you know right, it's quite very interesting.
Speaker 5: But the golf course days it's beautiful.
Speaker 4: I love it.
Speaker 5: I love it day as much as amateur. But I
Speaker 5: have you know, I have a good eye when it
Speaker 5: comes to such Zimballey also is a nice course. A
Speaker 5: number of difficults, but yeah, it's it's it's nice. Don't
Speaker 5: come out with good schools there, and I wouldn't say
Speaker 5: much about but I know the course and I've played
Speaker 5: it before.
Speaker 2: Like you said, you know, you know, if there's anything
Speaker 2: nice about golfers around the coast is that there's certain
Speaker 2: holes you can actually have a view of the ocean
Speaker 2: and you can hear I know, right, I know no,
Speaker 2: But but I'm upset that there's there's nothing outing that
Speaker 2: has actually caught your attention that much. I thought you
Speaker 2: were going to say something about houting.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 5: Maybe I have a heart for Reint Park because because
Speaker 5: rain Park groomed me, by the way, and I'm the
Speaker 5: baby of rain Park.
Speaker 4: And funny enough, I don't play rain Park much.
Speaker 5: And but when you ask me about fire throne. I
Speaker 5: will tell you that I already know when you asked
Speaker 5: me to come and play with you that I'm not
Speaker 5: going to have.
Speaker 4: The good day because the tree is there. Amen. I
Speaker 4: also like I think I like partving for some reasons.
Speaker 5: He always challenges me, Glendower, I almost lost my eye there,
Speaker 5: so so clean. Now when you tear off on your
Speaker 5: tent right before the lake, which is closer to the
Speaker 5: whole day, and there's trees on your right and side,
Speaker 5: I think, and that tree is not far from the
Speaker 5: bridge or the lake, so it's either you hit over
Speaker 5: or you hit closer to the bridge.
Speaker 4: So I think my positioning I need to mean.
Speaker 5: But I'm soft girl, so you can tell me. Sometimes
Speaker 5: it's salty and it doesn't come as I'm saying. I mean,
Speaker 5: how much I'm phoning to a soft girl?
Speaker 4: Can you keep it like that? I love golf and
Speaker 4: I'm passionate about and it's business for me.
Speaker 5: But I'm still a soft girl under circumstances, you know.
Speaker 5: And when I hit that ball, it went straight in
Speaker 5: between the trees that are closer to the bridge. So
Speaker 5: for some reason, I was trying to be Tiger Woo's
Speaker 5: wife and see if I can make things happen, you know.
Speaker 4: And when I hit the ball, oh, it waits for me.
Speaker 4: It was madness.
Speaker 5: It was madness, and I thought the sound of the thing.
Speaker 5: Luckily I was wearing glasses, right, So.
Speaker 4: I'm playing with three guys. I'm the only girl I beach.
Speaker 5: During there if not when I hit the ball, because
Speaker 5: I was hoping that I'm gonna hit it lower so
Speaker 5: that it goes straight over, you know, to the cream.
Speaker 5: When I hit the thing, the sound of it, the
Speaker 5: sound of the tree. Forget about the sound of my classes.
Speaker 4: The sound of the.
Speaker 5: Tree sounded like I'm coming back for you and you're
Speaker 5: gonna die today. So when it came back, it hits
Speaker 5: just on the edge of the classes, you know, where
Speaker 5: you're I don't know what they call this thing, Yeah,
Speaker 5: the frame off, but there's also your chin bone on
Speaker 5: that on that thing.
Speaker 4: So it hit on top.
Speaker 5: And it sounded, and the guys were silent. There was
Speaker 5: a moment of silence because they firstally wanted to see.
Speaker 4: How am I reacting?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: And am I responding to the noise?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 5: Sure, even though it hit on my cheeks? But am
Speaker 5: I okay? Because anything could be could be, could be broken.
Speaker 5: It's sounded like something was broken, but it was classic.
Speaker 5: And I hold my face and I put my head
Speaker 5: down because my head was done for some reasons.
Speaker 4: But still it wasn't that up.
Speaker 5: So that's why it hit at the edge of the cheek,
Speaker 5: just at the edge. And I had this guy that
Speaker 5: I was playing with it and said, are you okay?
Speaker 5: And I said, yeah, you know, now I'm doing a
Speaker 5: nice when you're writing, Oh my goodness.
Speaker 4: And I was pleading. I was pleading. But thank you
Speaker 4: to the classes that I was wearing.
Speaker 5: I'll mentioned that brand when when I'm a millionaire, said look,
Speaker 5: this friend saved my life.
Speaker 4: But yeah, and I went back to the camphouse and
Speaker 4: guess what.
Speaker 5: I came back very upset and I wanted to play
Speaker 5: the back nine so sober.
Speaker 4: It wasn't. It wasn't. I was sullen.
Speaker 5: I'm bleeding a little bit, but it wasn't anything that
Speaker 5: says you can't play. But I was doomed for some reasons.
Speaker 5: I was feeling funny, you.
Speaker 2: Know, isn't.
Speaker 4: But I got checked. There was an r whatever, but
Speaker 4: I got checked and got checked.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sorry to hear about that.
Speaker 4: And I went off gold for two months.
Speaker 5: Because every time when you tell me about any cause
Speaker 5: that has trees, A'm traumatized.
Speaker 2: I can imagine I would also be even I would
Speaker 2: be like, you know what, I only play like your
Speaker 2: goals at least, but.
Speaker 4: At least I've got a story to tell. It was
Speaker 4: very I mean traumatized.
Speaker 2: No, I'm sorry, I'm sorry about that. Even even for
Speaker 2: those who witnessed that. It must have done something to
Speaker 2: them to say, you know what.
Speaker 4: They never played with me again, by.
Speaker 2: The way, I couldn't.
Speaker 5: It couldn't be actually having a game sometime end of
Speaker 5: this month, but the elevation.
Speaker 2: But I hope it's not the same.
Speaker 4: Cause no, definitely, no, it's not the same.
Speaker 2: Not that I'm not that.
Speaker 5: I'm That was my last time I played that course.
Speaker 5: I would love to go back there, to go back
Speaker 5: to that course again. They even gave me a voucher.
Speaker 5: I still have that vouche to go in experience.
Speaker 2: But traumatized, Yeah, you need you need counseling after such
Speaker 2: an experience.
Speaker 3: I think so, I think so, I think no, no, no, no,
Speaker 3: that's it's nice to understand, But you know, I still
Speaker 3: don't think it's an embarrassing moment that you've had on
Speaker 3: the golf No.
Speaker 5: No, Techinitely, I don't feel embarrassed myself.
Speaker 4: Like I mean, I mean who I am? Who I am?
Speaker 5: There's better people who play golf, and they come with
Speaker 5: serious injuries and people it.
Speaker 4: Couldn't have been well.
Speaker 5: I wouldn't say I was hit by my own balls,
Speaker 5: but I was hit by my own bowls. But there
Speaker 5: are people who you know how it is when the
Speaker 5: field is slow and people will start hitting and you still.
Speaker 4: And you get hit somewhere somehow.
Speaker 5: And there's a guy that I know that really was
Speaker 5: in a bad situation in December because someone hit them
Speaker 5: with the ball and they were behind them and the
Speaker 5: field was slow.
Speaker 4: So I mean, it's one of those things that happens
Speaker 4: in golf, and unfortunately I can't.
Speaker 2: You know, you can't give up based on you know.
Speaker 4: I can't unfortunately.
Speaker 2: All right, So tell me, Nana, your your most celebrated
Speaker 2: moment on the golf course. Where and when was this
Speaker 2: and what happened?
Speaker 4: You want to go.
Speaker 5: Celebrated moment the court was last year? I think it
Speaker 5: was last year June when I played in a golf
Speaker 5: day at King's Trophy there's a golf day called called
Speaker 5: King's Trophy, and for some reasons, I worked with King's
Speaker 5: Trophy from time to time at some point because I've
Speaker 5: been in different clubs and so I know, you know,
Speaker 5: most of the golf days that I could possibly attend.
Speaker 4: So I played in that golf day.
Speaker 5: And it was.
Speaker 4: Not last year, I think the other year.
Speaker 5: It was my first time winning something in a golf day.
Speaker 4: No, it's even fun yet.
Speaker 5: There was my first time winning something in a golf
Speaker 5: day specific, not just normal groups or social clubs that
Speaker 5: we play.
Speaker 4: In a golf day.
Speaker 5: And in that golf day, I won the longest Day
Speaker 5: and my gift was a yoga master. Okay, okay, So
Speaker 5: you guys are saying, because you have had a long
Speaker 5: day and you behave like you were drum day, you
Speaker 5: might as well just.
Speaker 2: But you know what, at least they recognized I.
Speaker 5: Did hold that bottle with confidence because I knew what
Speaker 5: happened there. It wasn't a good day at all, but yeah,
Speaker 5: at least my name was they for longest day in
Speaker 5: a coffee.
Speaker 2: No, but I mean it makes a difference. It cheers
Speaker 2: you up. I mean I've had days like those where
Speaker 2: sometimes I even feel like, you know what, let me
Speaker 2: just pick this ball up and go back and sit
Speaker 2: at the halfway house, or just get into my car
Speaker 2: and drive away. So for them to recognize you for that,
Speaker 2: I have to give them a big ups. And for
Speaker 2: you to actually receive it with that confidence and uh,
Speaker 2: with that mindset, it basically shows that you know what
Speaker 2: you've got. Good sportsmanship number one and number two you
Speaker 2: you you love the spots so much that regardless of
Speaker 2: how long your day is, you your passive and you
Speaker 2: go out to share what you came for. No, no, no,
Speaker 2: that's that's awesome stuff. Now. Now, now we are reaching
Speaker 2: the end of our segment today and it has been
Speaker 2: amazing to have a chat with you. That's not number
Speaker 2: one much the insight that you've shared with myself as
Speaker 2: well as the audience. It's not for sake, if I
Speaker 2: can put that way. I believe that you come by wisdom,
Speaker 2: you come by experience. Those are things that you gain
Speaker 2: over time, and for you to actually share such with
Speaker 2: us in an open space like this, also even your
Speaker 2: experiences around the golf course in such an open space,
Speaker 2: I have to take my head out to you and
Speaker 2: I still need to hold you to the Thailand golf day.
Speaker 5: I'm going there, definitely. I'll drop your detail. Sometimes I
Speaker 5: just need.
Speaker 2: To polish my golf as well. I don't want to
Speaker 2: find myself swimming.
Speaker 5: I've never been in Thailan myself, so it's gonna be
Speaker 5: a very interesting Jenny.
Speaker 4: And I think that.
Speaker 5: Well through the through what they have sold me, it
Speaker 5: really looks scared.
Speaker 4: It's one of those that you.
Speaker 5: Would really I would want to have you, you know,
Speaker 5: longest day, as long.
Speaker 4: As you're in the islands.
Speaker 2: Some places you just don't want to leave you, like
Speaker 2: you know what. Let me delay as much as I
Speaker 2: can delay enjoying myself around.
Speaker 4: Yes, you can be like on you or whatever.
Speaker 5: Hold in black No, guys, thanks, I'm picking up because
Speaker 5: you have those moments.
Speaker 4: I'm picking up. I'll pick up three holes in a road, black.
Speaker 5: Bill thinks. But you know, I don't mind to pick
Speaker 5: up in talent, so I'll pick ups if.
Speaker 4: I want to.
Speaker 5: As long as I'm not in South Africa, I wouldn't mind.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, we know that because in splendid condition.
Speaker 5: No, definitely, And I think also I've recently seen how
Speaker 5: how how it looks. I think this also the holy
Speaker 5: timing makes it even better. Of courses are really looking good.
Speaker 5: They're really looking good.
Speaker 2: And we also have to give a big thank you
Speaker 2: to all golfers, whether they're social, whether they're professional, for
Speaker 2: actually treating all these golf courses with respect. Number one,
Speaker 2: number ten, give a big thanks to everyone who pitches
Speaker 2: up to their respective golf events golf days with the
Speaker 2: utmost respect of the game and the utmost respect for
Speaker 2: the organizers.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not it's not an easy job, believe me.
Speaker 5: And and you deal with a lot of different characters.
Speaker 4: And you know, somebody.
Speaker 5: Said, yeah, I don't know who I'm playing with, but
Speaker 5: I know what they're playing in ten fifty FA. Yeah, somewhere, somehow,
Speaker 5: somewhere that needs things to be done, and you really
Speaker 5: need to get it done because this same person might
Speaker 5: be annoying you about Nana, I want a gold day
Speaker 5: that's coming, you know, and you really have.
Speaker 4: To be grounded somewhere somehow. Doesn't matter.
Speaker 5: It doesn't matter because the same person can give you
Speaker 5: the biggest doll in your life that you never you
Speaker 5: never thought of and.
Speaker 4: And for some reason then it's it's challenges that we.
Speaker 5: Face in different courses depending what type of clients that
Speaker 5: we bring into them. You know, it's challenging and and
Speaker 5: min you some of the golf courses, those those those
Speaker 5: clients are the people that sits in the board and
Speaker 5: makes the golf courses run, you know, so that people
Speaker 5: don't know who they are.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, no, awesome stuff. Have to say once again,
Speaker 2: thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you to everyone
Speaker 2: around you who's allowed you to go through this conversation
Speaker 2: with me. I am I'm highly honored and I look
Speaker 2: forward to I believe will be will be playing one
Speaker 2: of these days. I believe we will be playing one
Speaker 2: of these days, but it definitely won't be len. I'll
Speaker 2: make sure that lets vouch to you.
Speaker 4: You know, I need to go big. Who knows?
Speaker 2: No, I don't think you're ready yet. Let's go.
Speaker 5: Maybe I can shocking our flames, say don't take me.
Speaker 4: Maybe I can show our flames and like remember when
Speaker 4: you did me dirty last time.
Speaker 2: That's a championship, cause you know, even the product.
Speaker 4: Is the championship. Cause I don't I don't play like that.
Speaker 2: But it has been absolutely lovely chatting to you. And
Speaker 2: may you have a pleaceful Yeah, may you have a
Speaker 2: great successful year. Let the guilds come through. Let's do
Speaker 2: this golf course, the golf days. Let's make sure that
Speaker 2: there's more and more events coming through. Let it not
Speaker 2: just be thailant. Let's go to Europe, Let's go to America.
Speaker 2: Let's let's put let's put you on the international map,
Speaker 2: not just any map. If we have to do alf
Speaker 2: a golf day in Greenland, you know it's it's so
Speaker 2: funny that Greenland is covered in ice, then let it be.
Speaker 2: But let's do it.
Speaker 5: Appreciate it, appreciate it. All right, thank you, Thank you
Speaker 5: guys for having me.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much. Nana, you must have yourself a
Speaker 2: lovely night.
Speaker 4: Thank you so much. All right, bye.
Speaker 2: Bye, So ladies and gentlemen, there you have it. This
Speaker 2: is the end of ours segment today, and it has
Speaker 2: been quite an insightful conversation that I've had with none
Speaker 2: of whom is a golf event organizer. I mean she
Speaker 2: mentioned that she does this on a daily basis, and
Speaker 2: it's not just based in houting. I mean she's breaking
Speaker 2: international markets, going all the way to Thailand to do
Speaker 2: the same. So big ups to her, and big ups
Speaker 2: to everyone who keeps on supporting golf. Everyone who keeps
Speaker 2: on bringing new golfers into the space. Everyone who keeps
Speaker 2: on supporting golf premn neals, whether it be equipment, whether
Speaker 2: it be a parallel, whether it be organization, or the
Speaker 2: food around the golf course. I would say big ups
Speaker 2: to everyone who supports anything that goes around golf. With
Speaker 2: that being said, ladies and gentlemen, is my cue to say,
Speaker 2: Tomorrow is Thursday, Friday is approaching. But please don't ever
Speaker 2: quote me and say that I said the weekend has
Speaker 2: officially started. My weekend has officially started. For those who
Speaker 2: are going to work tomorrow, please make sure that you
Speaker 2: wake up elie, you get to work on time, and
Speaker 2: then when you get there, make sure that you put
Speaker 2: your phone on the side, you open the latest tournament
Speaker 2: that's taking place while you're waking. And then on Friday,
Speaker 2: please do make sure that you play the best golf
Speaker 2: of your life. With that being said, ladies and gentlemen,
Speaker 2: this is the one and only Tony Tone, the Magician,
Speaker 2: the ball with a lot of flair. I am a
Speaker 2: classic man, and this is Balls and Teas the only
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