Speaker 1: Oh hey, it's your friend who's at the mall and
Speaker 1: text you photos of jeans that cannot possibly be the
Speaker 1: new thing. Please tell me howgh wasted with no pockets
Speaker 1: isn't a thing? Please. Alli worked back with another episode
Speaker 1: of Oologies. We're just leaning into this season. Crunchy leaves, wood,
Speaker 1: smoke scarves, glowy little lights in the darkness. This episode Pumpkins,
Speaker 1: Oh Pumpkins. This is an amazing episode and this is
Speaker 1: also smologies. So smologies are shorter episodes of classics, and
Speaker 1: this is one of our best. But we've edited them
Speaker 1: down so that there are no swear words and also
Speaker 1: so that they're just shorter. They're classroom friendly, their kid friendly,
Speaker 1: they're the whole family friendly. So enjoy this Smology's version
Speaker 1: of Pumpkins. If Pumpkins were a person, I'd be down
Speaker 1: to be the roommate. They seem chill, they seem friendly,
Speaker 1: they seem down for a good time, like they would
Speaker 1: come and clutch with a pep talk when you need
Speaker 1: it to herb Petology. Okay, what in the David S.
Speaker 1: Pumpkins is this word David Pumpkins?
Speaker 2: I mean, are we supposed to know who that is?
Speaker 1: I know you have questions. Okay, I looked it up.
Speaker 1: Cu cure patology comes from the Latin for gourd, and yes,
Speaker 1: cucureb patology looks like cucumbers because they're related. We're going
Speaker 1: to get into that later. But also I'd like to
Speaker 1: note that the word pumpkin comes from the French for
Speaker 1: pump pump, which came in a winding viny way from
Speaker 1: the Greek peppo, which means to be cooked by the sun.
Speaker 1: Genus and species of most pumpkins cucurbita pepo, a gourd
Speaker 1: that's been cooked in the sun. So I was looking
Speaker 1: for a pumpkin expert, or someone who studies pumpkins, or
Speaker 1: a pumpkin scholar, but not just the science of pumpkins,
Speaker 1: but also the emotions and the folklore and the history.
Speaker 1: And I came across a book entitled Pumpkin, Pumpkin Folklore, History, Planting, Hints,
Speaker 1: and Good Eating by someone who loves pumpkins so much
Speaker 1: she studied them intensely in wordal whole book about them.
Speaker 1: We chatted about what is a pumpkin? How long have
Speaker 1: we been carving them up and cooking them down? How
Speaker 1: many varieties are there what else that they used for?
Speaker 1: How do you pick out a good one? What are
Speaker 1: the biggest myths and the biggest pumpkins? So light alone,
Speaker 1: candle enjoy the flickering and cozy wisdom of curebatologists and
Speaker 1: Copeland ms.
Speaker 2: Milogy ntious knowledge. I'm a senior. I'm going to be
Speaker 2: seventy eight November twenty second, which falls on Thanksgiving every
Speaker 2: so many years, and that's how I one of the
Speaker 2: ways I come to love pumpkins.
Speaker 1: You must have had a pumpkin pie for your birthday
Speaker 1: every oh.
Speaker 2: I always said, pumpkin pie, pumpkin cake, pumpkin soup, pumpkin
Speaker 2: nick you name it.
Speaker 1: And now getting to have to pick a pumpkin.
Speaker 2: Uh huh?
Speaker 1: How do you pick a pumpkin? What are we looking for?
Speaker 2: It's going to be different every single time you go.
Speaker 2: It's going to be different. The color's going to be different,
Speaker 2: the shape of the pumpkin's going to be different, the
Speaker 2: size of it, whether it has a stem at the
Speaker 2: top that's long. It's gonna change every year. I mean,
Speaker 2: it's magic every year. You'll know it when you see it,
Speaker 2: and it may take a long time to figure it out.
Speaker 2: But that's half the fun of getting one. So for
Speaker 2: a decorative pumpkin, use intuition. You can summon your spidey sense,
Speaker 2: tap into some witches magic, and just get magnetized to
Speaker 2: the right one. Now, if you're going to eat it,
Speaker 2: the darker, the green stem and the orange skin mean
Speaker 2: it's ready to be picked, ready to be purchased, and
Speaker 2: you can hold it up to your ear and you
Speaker 2: can thump it. And the louder that hollow echoe sound,
Speaker 2: the better the pumpkin. In side note, if you ever
Speaker 2: need to lovingly threaten someone, say for venmoing you, for
Speaker 2: enchiladas when you said they wear your treat, or not
Speaker 2: texting you the second they get home safe, you can
Speaker 2: always say that you'll thump them on the pumpkin. That's
Speaker 2: been a word family threat for years and it translates
Speaker 2: to I love you, how dare you? And now, what
Speaker 2: about some varieties of pumpkins? Oh, there are a lot,
Speaker 2: a lot, a lot of pumpkin varieties. Now, a pumpkin
Speaker 2: is not a typical fruit. It's also not a vegetable.
Speaker 2: Oh no, it's not a vegetable. It's a fruit, not well,
Speaker 2: sort of a pumpkin believe it or not, is a berry?
Speaker 2: Oh what, it's a berry? Well, why it's a berry
Speaker 2: because it said I'm going to be a berry and
Speaker 2: it's berry. True.
Speaker 1: It's a freakin berry, y'all. It's a frickin' berry. And
Speaker 1: I looked it up. And so are cucumbers. And avocados
Speaker 1: are a berry. Bananas are a berry. Eggplants are a berry.
Speaker 1: These are berries. They are fleshy seeded fruits. They're formed
Speaker 1: from a single flower containing one ovary boom berries. Anne
Speaker 1: says that the biggest plump flam she's here to debunk
Speaker 1: is that pumpkins are not a vegetable, and in her
Speaker 1: books she calls the pumpkin a botanical platypus, but refer
Speaker 1: to them as a vegetable. She might thump you on
Speaker 1: the berry.
Speaker 2: So, yeah, you have a lot of fun with pumpkins
Speaker 2: because there's a lot of really different things about pumpkins
Speaker 2: that come in different sizes, shapes. They were grown in
Speaker 2: Mexico way way back, even before the Incas and so forth.
Speaker 2: They were grown in China way way back.
Speaker 1: And what are some of your favorite varieties of pumpkin?
Speaker 2: I like, there's a pumpkin that is green that has stripes,
Speaker 2: and sometimes it has red and green, and they're very small.
Speaker 2: I think they're called kabasi.
Speaker 1: Okay. These little pumpkins are Japanese, and if you google
Speaker 1: image search kobacha in Japan you will find all manner
Speaker 1: of pumpkins. But to English speakers, kobachi needs a short
Speaker 1: squat squash that you've probably had in tempora, and you
Speaker 1: either save it as the last piece you eat as
Speaker 1: a treat, or you eat it first because life is short.
Speaker 1: And someone at the table may say, ooh, can I
Speaker 1: have some of your tempura, and you want the pumpkin
Speaker 1: one for yourself, you gotta eat it fast. Ps Australians
Speaker 1: call all kinds of squash pumpkin. It's calabasa and Spanish
Speaker 1: and candied in Mexico for Day the Dead festivities, and
Speaker 1: the British used to call them pompions. Now the smooth
Speaker 1: doorstep pumpkins we're used to in America are Connecticut field pumpkins,
Speaker 1: and the smaller ones that we make in at pies
Speaker 1: are sweet sugar pies. And there are Jarendale blue pumpkins
Speaker 1: Casper white pumpkins. The pumpy ones are called peanut there's
Speaker 1: Long Island cheese pumpkins because they look like a cheese wheel.
Speaker 1: There are others called white ghost, warty goblins, and baby boo. Essentially,
Speaker 1: just come up with a new pumpkin and give it
Speaker 1: your cat's weirdest nickname. You're good to go. Tell me
Speaker 1: a little bit more about the history of pumpkins. So
Speaker 1: South America rights and then at what point did they
Speaker 1: start growing them in North America and Europe? I mean,
Speaker 1: they're pretty much grown on every continent.
Speaker 2: Right, Well, they figured that the American Indians were growing
Speaker 2: them for a while. They just may not have looked
Speaker 2: like the pumpkins we have today. They might have looked
Speaker 2: more like a squash, for example. They might have been smaller.
Speaker 2: They believed that the sheets were very healthy for you,
Speaker 2: which they are, so they believe that they would take
Speaker 2: away like parasites and things like that. So they would
Speaker 2: eat the seeds and dry them and eat them.
Speaker 1: OKAYI note how ancient are pumpkins. Did they come from aliens?
Speaker 1: Probably not. Scientists have found seeds that are over seven
Speaker 1: thousand years old. I think they originated in Central America
Speaker 1: as smaller, more bitter little gourds and indigenous populations all
Speaker 1: over the continent have for centuries use pumpkins in stews.
Speaker 2: Dried them.
Speaker 1: They use them in medicine, squash blossoms which also side
Speaker 1: note amazing friedan very much. Those were used for skin injuries,
Speaker 1: and from eighteen thirty six to the mid nineteen hundreds
Speaker 1: pumpkin seeds were recognized as a remedy for intestinal infections,
Speaker 1: and more recent research has been on the l triptafan
Speaker 1: in pepita seeds helping with symptoms of depression. Which part
Speaker 1: of that is probably just sitting there cracking them with
Speaker 1: your teeth. It's so dang dang fun. Also, according to
Speaker 1: Kaiser Permanente's website, there have been pumpkin seed medical trials
Speaker 1: showing promise in reducing kidney stone risk and helping with
Speaker 1: a parasite that comes from snails. So your glowing porch
Speaker 1: orb contains a little botanical wizardry. You mentioned earlier that
Speaker 1: pumpkins are magical.
Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely. We'll talk to you a little.
Speaker 1: Bit about how you feel about pumpkins.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's it's not just the pumpkin itself,
Speaker 2: it's the whole season that it ushers in. It's all
Speaker 2: the good things that we know and love, getting together
Speaker 2: with friends, changing our personality via Halloween.
Speaker 1: Quick reminder, is the eve of all hollows day to
Speaker 1: honor saints, and the tradition of dressing up comes in
Speaker 1: part to embody the costume that you're wearing, and partly
Speaker 1: to scare off the demons that are just chilling waiting
Speaker 1: to cross the boundary and to death the next day. Now,
Speaker 1: some researchers have found a link between higher caloric intake
Speaker 1: in the colder months, attributing it to old kind of
Speaker 1: hard wiring for storing up on fat before a fast.
Speaker 1: So Halloween is the time to dress up in order
Speaker 1: to ward off evil and also to eat all the
Speaker 1: candy you can because death looms close and the fruit
Speaker 1: trees will be bare in the winter. It makes sense.
Speaker 1: And now, what is some of the folklore surrounding pumpkins,
Speaker 1: Because I'm thinking, like people stepping into pumpkins's carriages. We
Speaker 1: got Igabod crane out there, we got all kinds of stuff.
Speaker 2: Oh, there are there's smiths that involve pumpkins from other
Speaker 2: lands where they actually believe that humanity came from a pumpkin.
Speaker 1: Ps. I did look this up in A two thousand
Speaker 1: and one article from the Journal Economic Botany catalogs several
Speaker 1: creation myths from different Asian cultures, most of which involve
Speaker 1: people surviving a great flood by floating in a hollow
Speaker 1: pumpkin or the birthing of a pumpkin. Youch that's cut
Speaker 1: into many pieces to form people. But historians think that
Speaker 1: the pumpkin plant didn't even make it to Asia until
Speaker 1: post Colombian times. But this folklore has been passed down
Speaker 1: through enough oral and written tradition that it's stuck. And
Speaker 1: here in America there are old stories from Southern communities
Speaker 1: and African American communities about riding pumpkin vines into new
Speaker 1: lands since they grow so fast, just like hop a
Speaker 1: pumpkin vine like a bullet train, and also stories about
Speaker 1: convincing Europeans that pumpkins are donkey eggs. Now moving on
Speaker 1: to bigger and gianter topics. What about them big ol'
Speaker 1: honkin pumps And how do people grow those huge giant pumpkins?
Speaker 2: Oh sir, that's quite an effort. Yeah, they do have
Speaker 2: seeds for those, However, they don't necessarily grow to be
Speaker 2: big on their own. You have to kind of baby
Speaker 2: them along. And one of the things a lot of
Speaker 2: people do is that once the pumpkins starts growing, they
Speaker 2: have to keep it turned and they have to keep
Speaker 2: it moving so that it doesn't squash its own leaves
Speaker 2: and everything and prevent it from growing. So they have
Speaker 2: to put something under it. You know. It could be cloth,
Speaker 2: it could be hay or whatever, but they put something
Speaker 2: under it. Some of them feed the pumpkins with milk. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they do, they do. There's a lot of different ways
Speaker 2: they can do things. And of course, growing the biggest
Speaker 2: pumpkin is a longstanding thing that's happened. Oh and back
Speaker 2: in the early colonial days, when people would get their
Speaker 2: hair cut, they used to put a pumpkin, half a pumpkin,
Speaker 2: on top of their heads. And they even name the
Speaker 2: town Pumpkinshire because that's how they would cut their hair.
Speaker 2: They were just cut it around the pumpkin.
Speaker 1: Oh like that, Yeah, ps New Haven in particular was
Speaker 1: known for this luke and like Instagram photos of rose
Speaker 1: at brunch, it spread quickly and gave New Englanders the
Speaker 1: nickname Pumpkinheads. Now Boston, Hi, Hi, Boston, You were once
Speaker 1: known as pumpkin Shire. So the next time you enjoy
Speaker 1: some baked beans from Beantown. Just think, Wow, you could
Speaker 1: be pumpkin Muncheon instead. So let's say you need a
Speaker 1: haircut in several months, so you've decided to grow pumpkin.
Speaker 1: Does ann have any chips? First? She says, have a
Speaker 1: space about four feet wide and thirty or forty feet long.
Speaker 1: Or or you can train your vines to grow in
Speaker 1: a circle around the rest of the garden.
Speaker 3: Is that cute?
Speaker 1: She says, Plant five or six seeds in each mound,
Speaker 1: and then when they start to sprout, you got to
Speaker 1: thin them out and pluck a couple. Let only the
Speaker 1: best to grow. She says, it's going to be heartbreaking,
Speaker 1: but it's worth it now. Her book has more growing
Speaker 1: tips about hot capping them, coddling them in cold weather,
Speaker 1: keeping them cozy as they start their journey to pumpkin Town.
Speaker 1: I guess pumpkinshire they.
Speaker 2: Grow into the fall, and there's a few types that
Speaker 2: can even grow into the winter. So yeah, it just
Speaker 2: depends how they're grown and where they're grown and what
Speaker 2: they put into it to how they will grow.
Speaker 1: Do you have a favorite movie involving a pumpkin?
Speaker 2: I guess Cinderell and mainly, I think that's everybody's everybody's
Speaker 2: favored her in that pumpkin carriage. You know, that's that's
Speaker 2: pretty classic. I can't think of any others that I've
Speaker 2: seen right off him. Yeah, but that's one I always
Speaker 2: liked a lot.
Speaker 1: Okay, p has The Tale of Cinderella dates back over
Speaker 1: two thousand years and has taken various forms. Now, the
Speaker 1: version with the pumpkin carriage was a far from a
Speaker 1: Walt Disney invention, so don't give him props that part
Speaker 1: of the story was whipped up in a sixty hundreds
Speaker 1: in France. What about pumpkin carving tips?
Speaker 2: Pumpkin carving tips, I'm not good at carving pumpkins, but
Speaker 2: I'll tell you why. I have carved a pumpkin or two.
Speaker 2: But after a while I got twhere I didn't really
Speaker 2: want to carve them. I really wanted to paint them
Speaker 2: or to do something else with them. For some reason,
Speaker 2: I just didn't like to cut them up unless I
Speaker 2: was cooking them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you know, you are not the only cu
Speaker 1: curvatologist I have heard say that. I understand that there
Speaker 1: is a movement to cook not carve, because it's like
Speaker 1: you put all this water and resources into it, so
Speaker 1: you're just gonna let it rout on the porch.
Speaker 2: That's true, that's true.
Speaker 1: Yes, Tempera not to be confused with tempera or acrylic paint,
Speaker 1: works well on pumpkins. And if you're like, why am
Speaker 1: I seeing so many turquoise colored pumpkins? What's this trend?
Speaker 1: That is the teal pumpkin project? And on someone's porch,
Speaker 1: it's a sign that there are non food treats being
Speaker 1: given out. So if you're kiddo or shamelessly you trolling
Speaker 1: your neighborhood as an adult for goodies, is allergic to
Speaker 1: peanuts or gluten, those houses are like I got you
Speaker 1: covered with like a fake tattoo, some silly putty, So
Speaker 1: keep an eye off for those. Can I ask you
Speaker 1: questions from listeners?
Speaker 2: Sure?
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, real quick, before we get to Patreon questions,
Speaker 1: we may have a few words about some sponsors of
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Speaker 1: each week to a cause of the ologists choosing, and
Speaker 1: this week Anne chose Shriner's Hospitals for Children because children
Speaker 1: and their sense of magic and wonder have a special
Speaker 1: place in her Giant Heart. So Shiner's Hospitals for Children
Speaker 1: is a network of twenty two nonprofit medical facilities across
Speaker 1: North America. So thank you to and for choosing them,
Speaker 1: and to some of the sponsors for making it possible. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's get to your questions. Meg Mahelley asks, and I
Speaker 1: think a lot of people probably have the same question,
Speaker 1: where did the jack o' lantern originate?
Speaker 2: The Jack o lantern actually originated a long time ago,
Speaker 2: and we think back around when Stone Hinge and all
Speaker 2: that was, well, what's active? Let me put it that way.
Speaker 2: They think that it goes back that far and that
Speaker 2: Jack was like comparable to the devil, and he had
Speaker 2: to be sort of punished, and he had to carry
Speaker 2: around a light so that people wouldn't be afraid of him,
Speaker 2: that they would know he was coming here, Johnny. So
Speaker 2: it goes back a long way. Again, we only know
Speaker 2: from things that have been written, and we don't know
Speaker 2: in a lot of cases how truly accurate they are.
Speaker 2: So I'm doing my best to give a correct answer.
Speaker 1: Okay. It's also been said that Irish and Scottish kids
Speaker 1: used to carve their jackal interns out of turnups or potatos,
Speaker 1: and let me tell you, they look like tiny baby
Speaker 1: mummy heads and are so much scarier by so much,
Speaker 1: many multitudes. And in this tale of Jack and the Devil,
Speaker 1: so some versions say that a guy named Jack trick
Speaker 1: the devil and then trap the devil in the tree,
Speaker 1: and so the devil condemned Jack to wander the earth
Speaker 1: just hoofing it around carrying a hot coal in a
Speaker 1: turn up? Is that to mimic the devil Jack's lanternian.
Speaker 2: Probably, And also so that it would light the way
Speaker 2: for people in the dark in the in the winter time.
Speaker 2: And it wasn't really like Halloween as we know it now.
Speaker 2: It used to be called sam Hane, and sam Hane
Speaker 2: was so different. It was connected with Celtic people and
Speaker 2: so it was a different sort of holiday then, okay.
Speaker 1: So quick aside. Sam Han also pronounced Sowen, is a
Speaker 1: Gaelic festival and it celebrates the Celtic pagan new Year
Speaker 1: and the end of the harvest season and into the
Speaker 1: cold times, and feasts are had, costumes are donned, fairies
Speaker 1: are appeased, neighbors are shaken down for treats, and spirits
Speaker 1: are invited to come kick it before they cross over.
Speaker 1: And if you're like Day of the Dead, you didn't
Speaker 1: warshows what a nutty coincidence. It's the same day that
Speaker 1: Mexican holiday honoring and celebrating They're Gone and not Forgotten.
Speaker 1: Used to be celebrated in the beginning of summer pre
Speaker 1: Spanish colonization, but gradually it got moved to late October
Speaker 1: to fit in with Western halloweeny things. Oh, Naomi Barry
Speaker 1: wants to know what's the deal with white and pink pumpkins?
Speaker 1: How do they make them like that?
Speaker 2: They don't make them. They cross pollinate them and they
Speaker 2: grow new varieties when they can. Now, white pumpkins have
Speaker 2: been something that they wanted to develop for a long time,
Speaker 2: and they finally were able to. They've had red pumpkins reddish.
Speaker 2: Let's put it this way. They're more red than they
Speaker 2: are orange. So if they cross the red with the white,
Speaker 2: chances are they'll get the pink. But the pink is
Speaker 2: you don't see many pink. Yeah, it's more rare. So
Speaker 2: if you get a chance to get a pink pumpkin,
Speaker 2: by all means, get one.
Speaker 1: By the bye are called porcelain doll f one varieties
Speaker 1: or rascal f ones and they are light, light, peachy, pink,
Speaker 1: lumpy but hearty with deep ribbing. Now, this next question
Speaker 1: was also asked my patrons Morgan Ashley, Katie Coast, Sam Taylor,
Speaker 1: Laura Kenny, and Joe Porfino, who simply wrote, what's with
Speaker 1: pumpkin guts? Jacob Farmer wants to know why is it
Speaker 1: sometimes really easy to get the goop out of the
Speaker 1: inside of the pumpkin and sometimes it's really long.
Speaker 2: Because the pumpkin has an either fully matured and there
Speaker 2: are some varieties you think about making spaghetti noodles. Uh,
Speaker 2: if you take them out too early, they're really hard
Speaker 2: to get out of the pan, and they're harder to
Speaker 2: deal with. If you get them out when they're just right,
Speaker 2: then they're pretty easy to deal with. So it's possible
Speaker 2: that the pumpkin isn't fully right. So if the skin
Speaker 2: is really rough and really thick, sometimes it doesn't want
Speaker 2: to let go of this seed.
Speaker 1: That's great advice. I never realized that Becky Woodroff has
Speaker 1: a great question. She wants to know what's with those
Speaker 1: bags of teeny tiny pumpkins in the produce aisle. Are
Speaker 1: they baby pumpkins or does that type naturally grow to
Speaker 1: that size, you know, the little one.
Speaker 2: Actually, those are a special variety and they grow them
Speaker 2: that way. They're never gonna get big. They're they're grown
Speaker 2: to be small like that man thos lash pretty much
Speaker 2: a long time. Yeah, because they are small, they don't
Speaker 2: tend to rot, especially if you don't carve them up,
Speaker 2: if you're just having them sitting there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the old desk pumpkins, Yeah, they'll lashed. Okay. Side
Speaker 1: note one are those tiny, tiny pumpkins that Linda from
Speaker 1: Accounting has on her desk from like August thirty first
Speaker 1: until December first. Okay. They have many names among them
Speaker 1: Baby Boo, Pumpkin, Munchkin, Baby Pam, we Be, little Hooligan, mischief, trickster,
Speaker 1: again supporting my theory that you can just name a
Speaker 1: new pumpkin after your cat. Also, you know those weird
Speaker 1: teeny ones that grow on sticks that are always in
Speaker 1: the floral department, Those are egg plants, which your berries
Speaker 1: trust no one. Brion Wharton wants to know why do
Speaker 1: pumpkins get the weird wort looking thingies.
Speaker 2: Oh, well, it's partly how they're grown and also the
Speaker 2: variety Some pumpkins are going to be very lumpy and
Speaker 2: bumpy because it's part of their genetic makeup, and others
Speaker 2: will have a really smooth skin. I like the ones
Speaker 2: that have little wart thingies on them because they're they're
Speaker 2: they're different, you know, they're they're their own little characters,
Speaker 2: and to me, it makes them look more interesting.
Speaker 1: So warts and all, you love them warts and all?
Speaker 2: Yep?
Speaker 1: Okay, I look this up because Ella, Sugarman and Sarah
Speaker 1: also had questions. And pumpkin worts are called gay this warts.
Speaker 1: There'sts and they can be caused by water imbalances, viruses, bugs,
Speaker 1: or just genetics. But these pumpkins all deserve hugs anyway. Okay,
Speaker 1: one last question. Pumpkins and gourds. Are they different or
Speaker 1: is it?
Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, no, they're they're very different. Yeah, they're very different.
Speaker 2: Gorgs are more closely related to squash, but they're not
Speaker 2: even that either. They're their own little thing and they
Speaker 2: have a very very hard shell and when they are ripe,
Speaker 2: they're very very hard. You don't eat gorge, generally speaking,
Speaker 2: but you can paint on them, you can carve them,
Speaker 2: you can do all kinds of things like that. So
Speaker 2: they have their creative side too, and I love gords.
Speaker 2: I've seen some absolutely fabulous gorg art carved, painted, and otherwise.
Speaker 1: Oh one more thing about Anne's work. I literally forgot
Speaker 1: to ask her what her favorite thing about pumpkins are,
Speaker 1: So I sent her email and she wrote right back
Speaker 1: and said, my favorite thing about pumpkins is that they,
Speaker 1: like we are, constantly evolve from year to year. They
Speaker 1: never become born, and each new generation looks forward to
Speaker 1: them with great anticipation. Woo, thank you from my heart
Speaker 1: and always, it's.
Speaker 2: Been a joy to be here. And I wish all
Speaker 2: the people out there who are getting ready to show
Speaker 2: uprate the fall. I wish you all a happy autumn
Speaker 2: and a happy holiday season. And you know what, do
Speaker 2: it your way. You have permission to be who you
Speaker 2: are and who you like to be.
Speaker 1: Bish, So go out and enjoy Halloween.
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you so much. Okay, take care.
Speaker 1: So ask smart folks questions, because chances are, what caused
Speaker 1: them to seek the answer was the exact same curiosity
Speaker 1: that you've got now. Ann Copeland's book is delightful, as
Speaker 1: is she. Her book is called Pumpkin, Pumpkin Folklore, History, Planting,
Speaker 1: hints and good eating. There's tons of recipes in it.
Speaker 1: You'll find a link in the show notes and more links,
Speaker 1: as always are up at aliward dot com slash ologies
Speaker 1: slash qucre Petology. Also linked is Alleyward dot com slash Asmologies,
Speaker 1: which has dozens more kids Safe and shorter episodes you
Speaker 1: can blaze through and thank you Mercedes Maitland of Maitland
Speaker 1: Audio and shared Sleeper of Mind gem Media for editing those,
Speaker 1: as well as Steven Ray Morris and says we like
Speaker 1: to keep things small around here. The rest of the
Speaker 1: credits are in the show notes, and if you stick
Speaker 1: around at the end of the episode, I give you
Speaker 1: some advice. And some advice is if you want to
Speaker 1: draw on your pumpkin before you carve it, but you
Speaker 1: don't want to use a sharpie or something permanent in
Speaker 1: case you change your mind. You know it's a great idea.
Speaker 1: Is an eyeliner pencil or a lipliner pencil. So ask
Speaker 1: someone who wears eyeliner, Hey, can I borrow that? I
Speaker 1: might use a lot of it and then you can
Speaker 1: just wipe it off if you decide to change your
Speaker 1: mind in the middle of your carving. I literally did
Speaker 1: this last week when I carved a pumpkin. Okay, bye
Speaker 1: bye Solis.
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Speaker 3: for only sixteen euro like succulent board be approved Irish
Speaker 3: anger strip loin steaks with pepper corn butter or delicious
Speaker 3: Irish Chicken Parmeshama served with creamy potato gratam and her
Speaker 3: mix of rainbow root vegetables. And enjoy Goozillionaire or Soldier
Speaker 3: Caramel cheesecake. Can't argue with that shop in store or online.
Speaker 1: Tesco.
Speaker 3: Every Little helps available the most stores, prices very in
Speaker 3: express