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Speaker 1: You are now listening to the Big Ten Paradigm podcast

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here on the College GRIDIRN Coast to Coast Podcast Network.

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Please welcome in Noah Drury's we cover the Big Ten

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throughout this whole entire twenty twenty five college football season,

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and welcome to the Big Ten Paradigm here on the

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College grid Iron Coast to Coast Network. My name is

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Noah Drury, Happy to be along for the ride with you.

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We've been a little congested and sick, but we are

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feeling better and ready to talk about what happened.

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Speaker 2: In week eleven. We'll keep it more brief as Week

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twelve is up on the horizon and we have a

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game Friday and a bunch of games on Saturday. Only

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a few more weeks until we're at the Big Ten

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Championship in the College Football Playoff. We'll talk about the

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College Football Playoff rankings along with other things. We'll do

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a little debrief on the Michigan State vacating wins and

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all that good sorts of jazz. But we'll start off

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with last week. Last Friday, USC played Northwestern, a thirty

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eight to seventeen victory. USC just came in took care

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of business King Miller continues to be impressive. Mkaya Lemon

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and Jacobe Lane are going to be NFL draft picks.

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I think I could say that confidently enough. And Northwestern,

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I mean, look, getting to a bowl game on your

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season is kind of the goal right now. You got

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a few games left. You host Michigan at Wrigley Field

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this weekend, and then you play Minnesota and Illinois. You

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just have to win one of those games, and you

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were going bowling. And for the Northwestern program that's not

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in the Big Ten West anymore and really doesn't have

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a chance for a Big Ten title other than maybe

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an odd ball outlier year, I think that's the goal.

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And look, David Brown did a really good job taking

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over for Pat Fitzgerald after that whole scandal. And yeah,

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I like USC's still trying to fight for a playoff spot.

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Off game versus Iowa this Saturday, then you have to

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play Oregon and then you close out the season with UCLA.

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It's a tough final stretch, right And for a Lincoln

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Riley team, this team has to play physical, they have

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to play strong, they have to finish strong. And this

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game versus Iowa, Iowa can hang we saw it this

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past Saturday. Talk about that game in a moment. Ohio

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State took care of Purdue thirty four to seven. Perdue

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never really had a chance. The Ohio State defense is

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just so good. I mean less than two hundred total

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team yards allowed for Produce saying looks impressive once again.

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The run game just kind of getting distributed. Jeremiah Smith

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has a monster stat game. Yeah, this is an Ohio

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State team that's kind of capable of kind of doing

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everything they need, even really like forced pressure that much.

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They just took care took Purdue out of this game. Yeah,

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there was like nothing to say important, just Ohio State

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taking care of business, kind of load managing their way

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the rest of their way through their schedule. Indiana had

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a uh, had a close one. Mendoza doesn't play out

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great all game, but Hey has the final drive and

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Gus Johnson says he's the heisman. So does that mean

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he's the heisman? I don't know that will uh, that

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will be to be determined at the Heisman ceremony in

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New York in December. But Mendoza great player, able to

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go down, throws a beautiful touchdown. Omar Cooper probably makes

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one of the most impressive catches that will be remembered

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for a long time, and Penn State hung around. They

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they are still a talented football team. Singleton broke off

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that long touchdown, which he's that's kind of what he's

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been and he hasn't been able to break those this season. Yeah,

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go for this Penn State team. And what I would

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like to say is that this defense is still good night.

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Dennis Sutton did his job, you know. Aj Harris is

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still a contributor for this team. Zion Tracy like, there

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are still guys on this defense that are going to

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get drafted. I think that's pretty easy to say. It's

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gonna be tough. Obviously a rough finish to the season.

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Three and six currently, they'll probably pick up a win

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this weekend. But yeah, it's just a uh, just a

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bat just unfortunate for Penn State. We'll see what they

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do with their coaching. Higher haven't heard too much buzz

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on that Charlie Becker had a big game for Indiana

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in this game. And I mean, they're just so talented

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on the defensive line and linebacker position. Really all across defense,

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Aidan Fisher got another pick nine TfL's two sacks as

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a team just a just a good football team. And look,

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you need to find ways to win tough situations. And honestly,

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in their next two games they play I believe, yeah,

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Wisconsin Purdue, so they're probably not gonna get much of

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a challenge. Although Wisconsin did pick up their first win

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and Big Ten play more on that and second. But

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we have Oregon in Iowa and this was a heck

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of a football game. Oregon wins on a field goal,

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Dante Moore struggles in the rain, a lot of injuries

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to the receiver position, to Corey and Moore out, Kenyan

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Sadiq out obviously, Evan Stewart's been out, which there's some

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buzz that he might return before the end of the season.

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And it was just a tough game. But hey, you

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got to transfer and bear Alexander who's played well, and

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we're doing a really good job of filling the middle.

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own game. Iowa couldn't get any tackles for loss in

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this game. This is just an ugly football game. But yeah,

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Oregon's still alive in the college football playoff race. They

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do kind of have a tough finish Minnesota this Friday.

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they and then they go to Husky Stadium to end

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the season. Speaking of the Huskies, they get upset by

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wesconsin thirteen to ten. DeMont Williams couldn't do anything, Jodah

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Coleman gets hurt. Denzel Boston's the only source of consistent

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offense and a tough weather game. Their defense did their part.

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The longest passer for Wisconsin was Sean West, their punter.

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Just a not a great game, but they were able

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to get it done. Yeah, just just weird stuff all

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over the place. Wisconsin was able to pull out and

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ugly win and they get their first Big Ten win

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of the season. Will they keep Luke Fickle around That

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remains to be seen. It really just depends on what

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his buyout is, which I don't know the number off

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the top of my head, but we'll look at buyout

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season see if any other Big Ten coaches are under

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pressure of getting fired or any of that sort of nature. Washington.

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I mean, it's unfortunate. You could have potentially been in

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the playoff hunt. And if you continue to win on

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and they don't, they got to play Purdue, UCLA and Oregon,

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so chance there's a chance that they ruin Oregon season.

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At the end, they have another couple of games that

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it could potentially get right, they host Perdue. They don't

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have to go back to the east side of the

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Big Ten. I mean, technically it's the Midwest with Wisconsin,

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but they don't have to go back to the other

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side of the country. They get to stay on the

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Pacific Coast. And it's gonna be tough for Washington. They

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just gotta bounce back. Jedfish, I mean, he's in some

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coaching rumors. I think Washington's one of the better jobs

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you could be at. I think they do a really

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good job every season of just staying consistent. Excuse me.

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They do a good job of staying consistent and being

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a good football team. And look, they got a quarterback

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of the future. They still got a guy that could

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build around for one more year. You might lose Jonah Coleman,

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and you might lose was Denzel Boston and they can

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you know, they could build off that they could bind talent,

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they could get transfers. There's a lot of things that

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they could do. I mean that twenty twenty three team

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was so good and they still want I believe six

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and six or seven and five. Last season, you know,

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it was a and Tobonton Williams played really well in

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that Bowl game. And for Jetfish to take over a

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situation where last year they lost every starter but I

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think one, and then this season having a young quarter

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build off on. They just need to find more supplements

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obviously in the running game and receiving game. But I

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really like this Washington program. Washington, you know, they're one

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of these teams that I enjoy paying attention to. Even

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when they were in the Pac twelve, I was a

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big Washington fan, you know, when they had Michael Pennix

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for both years and obviously they had that insanely talented

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team that went to a national title game, something that

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we never really probably would have expected from Washington, you know,

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three years ago. So just an incredible job done there.

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Obviously Kalin de Borer there before. Just a good program

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and I think you could build a lot of things there. AnyWho,

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enough talk about that Rutgers ends up taking the victory

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over Maryland, and I feel bad for Malik Washington. I've

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said this for so many years in a row, or

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not years, sorry weeks. I mean I've said it for

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years too. They still haven't won since September. Guys, it

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is November now and they're probably not getting to a

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bowl game if they didn't win this one. You play

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Illinois Michigan in Michigan State, Well, my personal opinion, I

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think you could beat Michigan State at Ford Field. Illinois

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and Michigan are going to be tough wins. Michigan looking

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to get into a playoff spot. Illinois is a good

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football team, not a great, a good, above average football

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team that caught a tough couple of tough losses early

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on in the season and it kind of went downhill

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from there for Rutgers. I mean, I've been I'm a

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big fan of Athnyan caliac Mannis. He had a solid

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game through a couple of picks, but you know that's

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to be expected of the Greek rifle. And then Antoine

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Raymond forty one carries two hundred and forty yards, just

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the ultimate workhorse. I can't tell you the last time

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you don't really see running backs in college or at

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any level get above thirty, let alone forty one carries.

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I mean, that is just absurd and really unheard of.

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I mean this was just too middle of the pack

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to lower end Big ten teams playing each other and

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duke in and out, and yeah, I mean, look Rutgers.

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Rutgers not the typical defensive oriented team that there used

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to be. But they have a chance to go bowling.

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They have this week off. They'll play Ohio State, which

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probably won't handle that one too well, and then they

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play Penn State and that'll be a great regular season

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finish to potentially go to a bowl from the team

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from Piscataway and they could just build on the next season.

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And then the last game, this was a good one

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between Nebraska and UCLA. TJ Latif came out, balled out,

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obviously got thrown into that USC game, which Nebraska's probably

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not gonna be in playoff contention anymore. Thirteen to fifteen

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to two ohs, five thirteen point seven yards per attempt

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in three touchdowns. And then we talked about him on

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this show multiple times, and I think the national media

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has to take more attention to him. Is Emmett Johnson.

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Emmitt Johnson is one of the best running backs head

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over one hundred yards receiving, one hundred yards rushing, just

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doing a heck of a job for his team. The

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corn Huskers are in great place. They're gonna keep Matt

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roll around. They extended them and they can't play kind

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of physical in this game too. And Ucla they had

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that couple of weeks stretch where it's like, oh, yeah,

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you know Ucla the hot hand. They beat Penn State

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and then they also beat I can't remember it off

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the top of my mind. They also croshed Michigan State,

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and they beat Maryland and then Indiana kinda sent them

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back down to earth. The tough season to finish out

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with Ohio State, Washington, and USC. So they might move

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back down to three and nine. See if what type

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of hire they're gonna make, right, because obviously they let

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go of Deshaun Foster. I don't know if they want

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to keep Skip Skipper and new Heizel around. You know

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what will the buzz be in that, right? But proud

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of this Nebraska team to finish out. They're seven and

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three on the season, Penn State and Iowa. That Iowa

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game is always electric no matter what type of season

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both of these teams are having. Remember two years ago

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being at the gym actually doing cardio and watching. I

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think of Deacon Hill as the quarterback at Iowa at

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the time, and then I can't remember who. I don't

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think it was Martinez because Martinez went to Yea. It

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could have been Martinez. There might have been Jeff Simms.

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Jeff Simms was a good quarterback at Georgia Tech and

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then he went to Nebraska and everything went downhill. And

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he's been playing a little bit at Arizona State, not

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completely well, but nonetheless, Emma Johnson TJ Latif. This defense

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has been kind of hit or miss all season. But

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this is a good corner Huskers team. And I hate

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Their season still matters to them, right, matters to the players,

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matters to the coaching staff, it matters to the community.

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They want to finish out strong and even if they

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go to a bowl game where they gotta go play

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in Florida like the Music City Bowl or the Sun

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Bowl or you know, they go play somewhere something of

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that nature. Right, it still matters. It's not like we're

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just like, oh, yeah, well they just don't matter because

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they're not in the No, they still matter. You still

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want to have good seasons, you want something to build on,

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and it's just great stuff. Let's take a look at

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the college football playoff rankings, and there's some there's not

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too much regarding the Big Ten that I want to

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completely like talk about, like Ohio State and Indiana being

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one and two, I think is good. I'm glad the

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committee doesn't punish Indiana. Texa A and M beat up

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beat a beat up Missouri State team with their freshman quarterback,

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and they don't flip flop them. I don't think it

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was an impressive enough win from Texas and them. It's

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not like they beat Bama in Georgia or Texas, which

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they'll have a chance to beat Texas later on in

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the season. But yeah, I mean, if they beat Texas

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and Indiana doesn't slip up like or it slips up

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or it doesn't play extremely well. Honestly, I could see

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it right. You got Bamama and Georgia, Texas, Tech, Ole Miss, Oregon.

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I'm fine with where Oregon is. They give them credit

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for beating Iowa. Maybe they should have been above Ole Miss.

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that impressive since September. And look, they've had a lot

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of injuries at the skilled position. They didn't look great

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versus Wisconsin. You know, they have the loss to Indiana

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at their own place, so obviously they got to play

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Washington and USC and you know, still have Minnesota on

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the schedule. But if they I mean, if they finish

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out undefeated, they're in right, and you know they'll be

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an at large team that gets in Notre Dame at nine.

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We haven't talked too much Notre They took care of

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business versus Navy. They got a tough play, they got

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a tough test going to play Pitt. I mean, if

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they can win that game out, there'll be ten and two.

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I don't understand the them in Miami being so largely apart.

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I know Miami lost to Louisville and then SMU. Look

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those are two both good football teams. I know Louisville

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had that stupid game versus Cal because you know, it's

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just how the ACC is and they have two Pacific teams.

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It's oh, they're actually at home though, So yeah, I

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mean Louisville, like they had Miller Moss. Obviously we weren't.

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Lincoln Riley wasn't impressed with Miller Moss. And I know

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Jeff Brohm does a decent job with quarterbacks and game

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planning and stuff, but Cal just took him to overtime

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and they won. And that one receiver had a crazy

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game for Louisville, right, And that's more all sports discussion

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than me. But I'm like, there's a little bit of

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a backstory. I'm a big Louisville fan. I was a

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big fan of that twenty twenty three team, and I

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a different podcast I was doing amateurly back in my

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own time. You know, buddy of mine that were going

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to broadcasting school, I said in the preseason, mainly because one,

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I'm a big Jeff brom guy, Like, obviously you got

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Purdue and this is kind of the tie in here.

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He got Purdue to a point where they were winning games,

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they were upsetting teams. They upset that Ohio State team

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they upset at Michigan State in that twenty twenty one season,

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they go to a Big Ten title, like they did

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a lot of things in that Aidan O'Connell on that team,

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and they've had a couple of receivers I believe in

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David Bell and Rondelle Moore that have been able to

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develop and end up being NFL players. And now, like

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obviously we see the situation that produes in and I

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mean Louisville. They've made it to the ACC Championship game.

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They've been relatively competitive, and I think Jeff Bromwile, I

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don't know if he's a big head coach guy where

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you know, he's got to go to one of these,

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you know, big time jobs. I think LSU could be

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a good place for him. I just don't know how

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well he would recruit. Also, Louisville in that game was

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missing Isaac Brown, one of the best running backs in

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the country. That also doesn't get talked about enough in

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the national media because they're an ACC school and they're

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not a big time program. But that's besides the point.

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I'm not gonna go on a rant about how really

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good players at these like non like you know, big

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network schools. I mean, I guess the ACC is covered

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by ESPN, but they care more about the SEC and

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they get all the primetime slots and the big game

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slots and this, that and the other thing. Right, nonetheless,

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all right, that's enough in other news. So Notre Dame's

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at nine, USC's at seventeen, Michigan's at eighteen. I love

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how they respect the USC had to head win. They

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took care of business versus Michigan. In USC, I mean,

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they could control their own destiny. If they beat Oregon,

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beat Iowa, they're in. There's no other way. As long

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as you don't slip up versusu CLA, you're in Michigan.

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If you beat Northwestern, beat Maryland, and beat Ohio State,

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you're in. Obviously easier said than done, right, and we

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might only see three Big Ten teams get in this season.

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I don't think that's well off the mark. I think

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USC does have a chance versus Oregon. I haven't been

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too impressed with Oregon's secondary this season. I think on

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the line of scrimmage, defensively they're okay. They're not particularly amazing,

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but there I would say they're above average. I don't

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think Oregon's this juggernaut of the team that we really

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thought they were last season. I think they're gettable, and

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I think they're gettable for USC. Their offensive line has

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been pretty alright. They've been able to run the ball

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more as of late. They found Wddington as being their

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main workhorse back and other guys just kind of supplementing

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in there, right and then so but also with USC,

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I mean they're on their what fourth fifth string running

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back in King Miller and he's killing it. Jane Mayeva,

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he had that one stinker versus Nebraska, they still were

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able to pull out a win even if it was

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a Dylan Royola injury, So I mean USC could get

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it done. Obviously, the loss to Notre Dame didn't help them,

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and then they also lost. They didn't lose to Illinois.

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Who did they lose too? They lost to oh no,

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they Yeah, they did lose to Illinois on the game

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winning field goal. So it'll be interesting to see what

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USC does down the stretch of the season. But their

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team I might buy some stock in, right, I think

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they're a good football team. And then Iowa at twenty one,

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I mean, they played Oregon very close. They covered the spread.

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They did what they were supposed to do. They play USC,

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and then Michigan State in Nebraska be interested to see

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what they do versus USC this weekend. That should be

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a really good game that will highlight coming up. And

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then yeah, Washington dropped out of the rankings deservedly so

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in the Ape Pole, Illinois got some receiving votes. And

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then also they didn't rank Iowa and the Apeopole. I

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don't get it, but the ap Pole voters probably like

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Iowa football is not something they're gonna pay attention to

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right to the middle of nowhere. Not a fun not

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necessarily a fun team to watch in terms of like

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excite and highlights and stuff. Not something you're gonna see

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on the big headlines. Just a good football team that,

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you know, I mean, we'll cover them. A lot of

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people in the Big Ten like talking about Iowa and

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the team they have. I mean, I'm a big Mark

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Gronowski fan. I kind of like some of the skilled

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players they have, even though they're not necessarily talented. They

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have a good secondary. Honestly this season like they've been

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playing pretty well, so you know, I mean, I'm a

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big Iowa fan, right they're a good They're a good

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football team. I'm gonna talk and this pains me to

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say this. It's probably one of the big stories here

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we go. Let's look at the Detroit Free Press with

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Chris Solari. You know someone that I pay attention to

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on Twitter. He actually came on to the radio station

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for our podcast on there, not that I'm necessarily associated

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with it, but on w HMI, and you know, he

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talked Michigan State in the preseason. And here is the article.

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We'll read this word for word. This is from the

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Detroit Free Press. Michigan State football has been placed on

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a three year probation by the nc DOUBLEA for violations

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during mel Tucker's tenure as a coach. Not only did

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he do you know, a very scandalous thing. Obviously with

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the whole Brenda Tracy thing. We're not going to get

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it too much into detail because I personally find it disgusting, right,

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but during mel Tucker's tenure, there is a violation and

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they will be forced to bakate fourteen win including five

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games under Jonathan Smith. Tucker violated head coach responsibility rules

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and failed to monitor his program and was ruled to

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have committed Level one standard violations, but was not involved

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in the recruiting violations. According to the nc doublea's release,

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The NCAA says Meltucker follow an NFL model for his program,

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running all off field operations through his general manager, but

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failed to adequately monitor his program. For that, Tucker has

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been given a three show, three year show cause arder

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in which he will be suspended from thirty percent of

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the football season during the first season of his new employment.

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The university released a statement that the Spartans will be

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penalized thirty thousand dollars SUPUS one and a half percent

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of football program's budget because former staff members are reigned

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for and provided impromssible recruiting and inducements and benefits and

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unofficial vision expensive MSU THENCA and it's Committee on Infractions

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also found Tucker's staffed engage and in permissible contacts with

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prospective student athletes. So starts short story store and a

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lot of the discussion on Michigan State Twitter was like, Oh,

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but you know, Michigan doesn't have to vacate their wins

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with the whole county. They got plenty of other stuff,

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a lot of money, a lot of fines a lot

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of this, that and the other thing. This is nothing,

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but now Jonathan Smith doesn't have a big ten win,

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and obviously it's not his fault with mel Tucker in

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what he did, but having a eligible player on field,

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and is that and the other thing like very very

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very like if it wasn't already downhill for Michigan State football,

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this is another thing that you can add to the

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laundry bag of lists of things that you're just like,

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what is this program doing? I like the guy, I

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forget the guy I locked on Spartans, and maybe we

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can have him on if Michigan State does a coaching

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search this offseason, or we could have Tom Cavanaugh too,

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because I think he would give great insight, which I

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love Tom. He's not actively covering Spartans Illustrated anymore, but

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he's someone that's very close to there and does a

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lot of other stuff in the media presence with writing

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and play by play commentary and a bunch of other things.

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So he's a great mind to have on as well.

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But what I wanted to say is like, as a

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Michigan State fan, it pains me to just see another

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thing happen to this program. You know, a program in

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university that's had all its scandals, you know, throughout the years.

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Not going to name individuals, but you can get the

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point where I'm at, right, and this is just another

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thing that they add to the collection, and you know,

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is the right leadership in place? Obviously there went whole

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completely different with the new athletic department. Obviously Alan Haller

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steps down and maybe he knew this was coming and

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decided to get away from everything we bring in Jay Bat.

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I think Jay Batt did a lot of good things

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for the Georgia Tech football program. But regardless, I mean,

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it's just yeah, Like I have some friends that go

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to the University of Michigan State, you know, for their education,

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and they were like, oh, do you want to go

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to the Penn State you know, Penn State Michigan State game.

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I'm like, no, I don't I like which also a

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complete sidebar, why is that game the big time game

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of the week for for CBS. That just doesn't make

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any sense to me. But hey, I mean they'll beyond

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national TV on a big major network. Are they deserving

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a sow bad? I don't know, but you know they are.

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the week twelve slate where there is football to be played.

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We will start with the Friday night game between Minnesota

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and Oregon. Minnesota six and three on the season overall.

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We'll head to Eugene take on the Ducks. Spread is

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a twenty five and a half. My goodness, I miss something.

492
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Is someone hurt that I'm I'm just not you know,

493
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nothing's coming off my about it. Why are they favored

494
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,000
by that much? I get that maybe Ohio State killed

495
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them and you know they weren't impressive versus Iowa or

496
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de Brack. Actually this makes a little bit more sense

497
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:15,240
now that we're looking at it right over under forty

498
00:27:15,279 --> 00:27:18,480
four and a half. Oregon looking to maybe have a

499
00:27:18,519 --> 00:27:22,960
takeaway game here. Dante Morey's been impressive all season. Obviously,

500
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maybe not as much statistical production, but he's still doing

501
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:28,720
a really good job of being the helm and leader

502
00:27:28,759 --> 00:27:31,759
of that offense. Noah Whittington has been kind of the

503
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workhorse back who's gonna step up in the receiving game.

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They still have McLellan someone that I do like. Gary

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Brian Junior gets hurt in that game obviously, with out

506
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Sadik de Koran More and Evan Stewart. So I mean,

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Oregon's had to fill in a lot of depth, and hey,

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they're still putting themselves in a prime position to win,

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you know, or at least compete in the College Football Playoff.

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For Minnesota, obviously, they've been out with Darius Taylor in

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and out of the season. They have ojaboys starting right now.

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00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,880
Lmeke Brockington has been their best receiver on the season,

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00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,880
but they haven't necessarily been great on the offensive side

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00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,400
of the ball. And yeah, I mean Minnesota, when they win,

515
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:10,559
they win closely, they don't have to score that much,

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and when they lose, they typically have gotten beaten pretty

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bad by Ohio State, Nebraska in Iowa. So can they

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have a chance in this game. I mean, they're already

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BAWL eligible, so it's not like, you know, they have

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to play to fight for Bowl eligibility, and you know,

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they have a week off so they have a chance

522
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to well prepare for this. After Oregon had to go

523
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all four quarters against Iowa. They still have nor Northwestern

524
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in Wisconsin, so I think they can at least get

525
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one more win out of those two games. And yeah,

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I mean Drake Lindsay, you know, in his first season

527
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,160
is starting, hasn't been particularly bad by any means. I

528
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,519
don't think he's been the best quarterback you know, in

529
00:28:47,559 --> 00:28:50,680
the Big Ten, but I don't know. Maybe we'll do

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00:28:50,839 --> 00:28:53,319
a Big Ten quarterbacks ranking at the end of the season.

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Whoever Wisconsin's quarterback is at the end of the year

532
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:58,839
will be eighteen, but you know, one through seventeen. It'd

533
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,680
be interesting to see, you know, where he places and

534
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:05,079
where I think heading forward in the next year, where

535
00:29:05,079 --> 00:29:07,319
he'd be in the preseason, because he's someone that from

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a fundamental standpoint, I really like his footwork. I think

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00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,480
he does a good job of layering balls as well.

538
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:15,240
It's just kind of him putting it all together. He's

539
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:18,519
also got some mobility and some toughness to him as well,

540
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:21,599
something that I really like, you know, seeing from a

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modern day quarterback where he's not completely reliant on one

542
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,680
thing or the other. He could do both and maybe

543
00:29:27,759 --> 00:29:29,920
get some more offensive weapons around him. I think PJ.

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00:29:30,039 --> 00:29:32,359
Fleck does a good job with that Minnesota program. Does

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he get hired away, I don't know. I've heard him

546
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for the Penn State job, but maybe he could go

547
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down south to one of the SEC jobs. I have

548
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:42,480
a million openings. It'll be interesting to see. But honestly,

549
00:29:43,279 --> 00:29:46,079
he stays at Minnesota at something I would be completely

550
00:29:46,079 --> 00:29:47,920
fine with because I think he's a good ball coach

551
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:50,720
and he did great things at Western Michigan as well

552
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in his time there, and he's done pretty good stuff

553
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:57,400
for Minnesota as well, So no reason to discredit him

554
00:29:57,519 --> 00:30:00,559
or his team. But I think I would take the

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00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:04,920
spreads for Minnesota. I would take Oregon to win the game.

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At noon on Big Ten Network, Indiana and Wisconsin square off.

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Indiana twenty nine and a half point favorite. Wisconsin. You know,

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they got a big win against Washington, their first Big

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Ten win of the season. If they win this game,

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they remain alive for bow eligibility. Unfortunately, they have to

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play the second best team in the country, who just

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had to play a close game with Penn State, and

563
00:30:31,559 --> 00:30:34,240
I know Kirk Signetti, he's not gonna want to play

564
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another close game with the team that. You know. I

565
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,640
think they're more in a better position on the season

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than Wisconsin. I mean, I think they might keep lup

567
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kafickle on. That seems to be the word around town.

568
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,440
We'll see if they decide to jump ship and shift

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things in other places in Madison. But in my opinion,

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I think that I think that Wisconsin. You know, it's

571
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kind of a lost season for the and I mean,

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I know they get the win versus Washington, that's great.

573
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I don't know if they're getting another one on the season.

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I really don't think they will. With playing Illinois Minnesota

575
00:31:10,359 --> 00:31:14,079
as well. Just there's no chance fors Indiana. And you

576
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know what, if they do win, clip it, clip this,

577
00:31:17,799 --> 00:31:21,400
put it everywhere, put it everywhere. I will be the

578
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,880
bad guy for saying I think Indiana will probably cover

579
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the spread. I think they will do their job. They're

580
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:28,599
not gonna want to play another close game. This is

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a Kurt Signette a team that you know, I mean,

582
00:31:31,279 --> 00:31:33,440
the other than Old Dominion in Week one and then

583
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:35,960
this Penn State game. You know, teams that they've been

584
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even with are better than they've dominated. I mean that

585
00:31:39,759 --> 00:31:42,319
thirty to twenty game versus Oregon, they dominated that game.

586
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:44,319
I will yeah, they played that one close. I was

587
00:31:44,359 --> 00:31:48,799
a damn good football team. They killed Illinois. I mean, like,

588
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:50,759
I don't know what you want from this team. They

589
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they've been one of the most impressive teams on the season.

590
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,920
They're not the most impressive, because the most impressive they're

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00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:59,440
probably gonna play in the Big Ten championship. That that's

592
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really I don't mean to go on a rant, and

593
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:04,200
maybe no one's questioning me my decisions, but I want

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to like make sure this Indiana team is really damn good,

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really good. I think they are a national title contender.

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To say that about Indiana football, you know, imagine you

597
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,799
said that, and obviously hindsight's twenty twenty, and probably no

598
00:32:18,799 --> 00:32:21,359
one would say this other than maybe the crazed Indiana

599
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,279
fan like you. Probably think they would have won a

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national title or had contention to compete for a national

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00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:29,319
title in basketball before they did in football, Right, that

602
00:32:29,359 --> 00:32:32,640
makes sense. I mean, they're historically a bad or historically

603
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:36,440
not a great football program and a great basketball school,

604
00:32:36,599 --> 00:32:42,759
but a man, they're doing great things down there. I

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00:32:42,799 --> 00:32:45,720
haven't actually seen them on the basketball court, and I've

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been loving college basketball ever since it started. This year,

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00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:52,359
I'm actually going to the Michigan State game. They play

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00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,200
Santa was A State, and I'm excited to go to

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00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,799
that game because you know, I went to the Wisconsin

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game last year. For Michigan State. I think it was

611
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the second to last game. I think it was their

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last home game and second to the last game of

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the regular season. No, maybe it was their second to

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last game, last home game, because they played Michigan at

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00:33:08,839 --> 00:33:12,680
home and absolutely kill Regardless, big Michigan State fans still,

616
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especially in the basketball and you know, we beat Arkansas away,

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only making one three. All right, off topic, Michigan plays

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00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:23,720
Northwestern on Big Noon on Fox. They are a eleven

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and a half point favorites. The spread started at ten

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and a half over under forty one and a half.

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I like, obviously Justice Haynes is hurt, and they still

622
00:33:35,759 --> 00:33:38,039
have Jordan Marshall, you know, getting a lot of the workload.

623
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:43,960
Underwood hasn't looked necessarily impressive so far in these last

624
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:45,839
few games. I think this would be a great get

625
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:48,839
right game for like an Underwood big game. Northwestern's not

626
00:33:49,079 --> 00:33:51,279
no shade, no shade to their defense. I mean, they've

627
00:33:51,279 --> 00:33:55,079
been pretty decent all season, all things considered. I'd like

628
00:33:55,119 --> 00:33:58,400
to see Underwood get going. Preston Stone is someone who's

629
00:33:58,519 --> 00:34:00,960
had pressure on him. He has been a good, good

630
00:34:01,079 --> 00:34:03,920
quarterback this season. I think they could do a more

631
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:05,880
than a great job with Borrom and more and the

632
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,440
other guys. They have no on the defensive line, they

633
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:10,639
do a pretty good job covering downfield. I don't think

634
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,039
Kamala fe is gonna be able to have too much

635
00:34:13,079 --> 00:34:15,639
success in the ground game. I think Michigan can take

636
00:34:15,679 --> 00:34:18,440
care of business against this Northwestern team. I think they will,

637
00:34:18,519 --> 00:34:20,920
even though it's at Wrigley Field. I think a lot

638
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:23,239
of Michigan fans will travel because it's Chicago and it's

639
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:26,039
like a four hour train ride, which or like a

640
00:34:26,039 --> 00:34:27,800
forty five minute flight if you want to take a

641
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,079
flight or if you wanted to drive, which driving through

642
00:34:30,159 --> 00:34:32,559
Chicago is probably the worst thing you could ever do.

643
00:34:33,519 --> 00:34:35,639
Maybe not one of the worst things, because there's actually

644
00:34:36,039 --> 00:34:38,960
but like you know, in terms of like driving to

645
00:34:39,039 --> 00:34:40,960
Chicago's now, especially if you're gonna go to the game,

646
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,119
you know what you can go there, you know, have

647
00:34:43,199 --> 00:34:44,960
a few brews, hop back on the train and go

648
00:34:45,039 --> 00:34:47,599
back home. You know, call it good. Take an uber there,

649
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,360
like make sure you know, don't drink and drive. I

650
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:53,800
think that's something that's common sense, but you know, some

651
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:58,480
people still don't listen. But regardless, I think they'll take

652
00:34:58,519 --> 00:35:01,480
care of business. Versus Northwestern, I think they'll. I think

653
00:35:01,519 --> 00:35:06,000
they will, oh and cvs at three thirty. Michigan State

654
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:10,239
and Penn State play football is spread seven and a half.

655
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,360
With Penn State, I don't think Penn State's you know,

656
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:14,559
with the Gronk and Meyer, I don't think they've looked

657
00:35:14,639 --> 00:35:18,719
too you know, particularly special on offense. Uh, obviously they're

658
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:21,679
gonna try to feed k Tron Allen and Nick Singleton

659
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:23,559
and try to get the backs going in this game.

660
00:35:23,639 --> 00:35:25,960
I think Penya, you know, he was nice in their

661
00:35:26,039 --> 00:35:29,039
last game versus Indiana. But you know, I don't think

662
00:35:29,079 --> 00:35:32,079
there's any true receiver or true special threats in the

663
00:35:32,119 --> 00:35:35,440
receiver position for Penn State. For Michigan State. You know,

664
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:39,000
you have to be really oppressed with Miller Boy's experience

665
00:35:39,039 --> 00:35:41,159
or with the inexperience he had. You have to be

666
00:35:41,159 --> 00:35:45,039
impressed with how he played stepping in for Aiden Chiles

667
00:35:45,079 --> 00:35:46,840
I don't think Chiles is going to get the start

668
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:51,239
again in this game. And if they can get Frasier

669
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,639
and Tullus and Tyle Tolliver, you know, going get Nick

670
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:59,000
Marsh you know, spam the Nick of Marsh button. Yeah.

671
00:35:59,079 --> 00:36:01,000
I think I thought, really, you know, this team would

672
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,079
be so much well put together. And I'm not saying

673
00:36:03,079 --> 00:36:04,639
this team is gonna be like, oh they were a

674
00:36:04,679 --> 00:36:06,719
doorcourse to make the no, but I thought they would

675
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:08,880
be like a seven to eight win team that had

676
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:12,199
some excitement. And here we are midway almost midway through November.

677
00:36:12,199 --> 00:36:16,599
Midway through November on Saturday. They haven't been on much.

678
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:20,480
So you know they're gonna finish the season out they

679
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:26,559
play They play Iowa next week, probably chalk that one

680
00:36:26,639 --> 00:36:30,239
up as lost, and then they play Maryland, and you know,

681
00:36:30,639 --> 00:36:34,760
it's it's unfortunate for them because I mean the first

682
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:37,599
episode we did on this show with me being the host,

683
00:36:38,599 --> 00:36:41,280
we talked to Tom Cavanaugh. I know I mentioned his

684
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:43,960
name twice. Also, me and Tom Cavanaugh are like pretty

685
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,440
decent outside of like the whole media business. Like we

686
00:36:47,119 --> 00:36:49,639
talk on the phone a decent amount. But AnyWho, Like,

687
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,079
I mean, we've talked about the Steamer are just like, man, dude,

688
00:36:52,599 --> 00:36:56,119
it's so unfortunate because I really thought there was something

689
00:36:56,159 --> 00:36:59,840
special here. So well, they got a big ten win

690
00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:04,280
on the season. I have no clue and yeah, I mean,

691
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:09,719
it's just it is what it is. Unfortunately, I hate

692
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:11,440
to be a biased fan every single time we talk

693
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:13,519
about this. But it's not even a sense of like, oh, yeah,

694
00:37:13,519 --> 00:37:16,440
we're the best team and we're gonna come kick kiddy, yes,

695
00:37:16,679 --> 00:37:19,119
and like you know, the Rock says this and the

696
00:37:19,519 --> 00:37:22,280
like we're not saying that, we're like talking about it

697
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,639
and such a disappointment because it's just been such a

698
00:37:24,679 --> 00:37:29,840
disappointing season. Iowa and USC, now this is an interesting one,

699
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,079
kind of a styles clash right Iowa. You know, the gritty,

700
00:37:33,079 --> 00:37:35,639
grindy team trying to win with field position. You know,

701
00:37:36,159 --> 00:37:38,960
they're not that aggressive. They're pretty sound on both sides,

702
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:42,360
staying true to their identities. And then there's USC. Usc

703
00:37:42,519 --> 00:37:44,239
you know, loves to throw the ball, they love to

704
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:48,199
get creative with their formations, they like to run trick plays. Defensively,

705
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:51,480
they'll send pressure, you know. They they like to do

706
00:37:51,519 --> 00:37:53,119
a lot of different things and they have a lot

707
00:37:53,119 --> 00:37:55,559
of skilled players. You know, kind of do those things right.

708
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:58,159
USC is a six and a half point favorite. This

709
00:37:58,199 --> 00:38:01,199
game will be at the Coliseum. It's gonna be a

710
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:04,800
good ball game between two good Big Ten teams. If USC,

711
00:38:05,159 --> 00:38:06,880
if you want to make the college football Playoff, I

712
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:10,559
think on an x's and an o's point, you just

713
00:38:10,599 --> 00:38:12,639
have to find ways to get Mikaya Lemon and Jacobe

714
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:15,119
Lane in spaces. I don't think you're gonna be able

715
00:38:15,159 --> 00:38:17,239
to take the top off over the Siowa team. I

716
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:19,400
think they're gonna recognize that. So you have to find

717
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:21,719
Mikaya Lemon to bust a big play after the catcher,

718
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:24,920
find Jacobe Lane on back shoulders or post routes or

719
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:27,400
you know, try to get them moved in all levels

720
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:28,880
of the field, and just find a way for King

721
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:31,760
Miller to just you know, stay consistent. Don't try to

722
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:34,440
get behind the chains against the Siowa team. For Iowa,

723
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,000
I mean, it's the same game playing over the week.

724
00:38:37,039 --> 00:38:41,000
Don't turn the ball over. State's positive in the turnover differential,

725
00:38:42,079 --> 00:38:45,280
and you know, just control the clock, control the tempo,

726
00:38:45,639 --> 00:38:48,320
you know, take ahold of the game. That's all you

727
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:52,719
have to do to win. It's like, quite literally the

728
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:57,079
most simplest thing ever for Iowa unless they play a

729
00:38:57,119 --> 00:38:59,400
team better than them. They're just you can make a

730
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:01,719
game play all. I just don't think simply they're gonna

731
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:06,360
ever win. So yeah, uh, Maryland and Illinois also play.

732
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:09,239
That game will be on FS one. Illinois a fourteen

733
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:12,199
and a half point favorite. Maryland has played so bad

734
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:15,679
down the stretch it's just inevitable that I think they're

735
00:39:15,679 --> 00:39:19,079
just gonna lose again. I love the Malik Washington kid.

736
00:39:20,679 --> 00:39:23,519
He's such a talented player. I mean, even though he

737
00:39:23,519 --> 00:39:25,519
couldn't get it done with his arm, you know. I

738
00:39:25,559 --> 00:39:29,920
mean the Maryland receivers lead the whole entire college power

739
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:34,440
for wise lead the nation and drops. That's something you

740
00:39:34,559 --> 00:39:37,440
just don't want, and I like, I think I try

741
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:40,199
to keep Locksley even though I mean, Locksley hasn't done

742
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:41,960
a terrible job, but they haven't been great. I don't

743
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:43,880
know if you could really do much better at Maryland.

744
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:46,239
It's kind of one of those quote unquote take the

745
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:48,840
checks and take the losses type school. And that's kind

746
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:50,599
of what you thought when they would join the Big Ten.

747
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:54,159
They haven't really had too much success since then. I

748
00:39:54,159 --> 00:39:56,960
mean they've had both seasons, yeah, but they haven't had

749
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:59,079
any threat of like being in the top twenty five

750
00:39:59,159 --> 00:40:01,559
or make it the College Playoff anything of that sense, right,

751
00:40:02,079 --> 00:40:04,719
And they have this special quarterback in the Lake Washington

752
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,119
that I think is going to transfer. I think he should.

753
00:40:07,679 --> 00:40:09,639
I think it would be the best move for his career.

754
00:40:10,079 --> 00:40:13,320
You keep Loxley, he stays, and what they have another

755
00:40:13,519 --> 00:40:16,920
like disappointing season after a great start, Well you just

756
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:19,119
wasted another year. And I mean, luckily he's gonna have

757
00:40:19,119 --> 00:40:21,079
the tape to go show to coaches like, hey, you know,

758
00:40:21,119 --> 00:40:22,840
I'd love to come play for your program and this

759
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,840
and that and the other thing. Like I think he's

760
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:29,239
a really special kid that's just used it. He wanted

761
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:34,920
to go to Maryland, and I mean he's a DMV kid.

762
00:40:35,559 --> 00:40:38,719
You know, maybe he goes to like maybe well not

763
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:43,239
North Carolina, probably not Clemson, doesn't well, I mean Clemson

764
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:45,239
kind of embrace the transferport a little bit more like

765
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:47,400
maybe he goes to Penn State. Whoever Penn State picks up.

766
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:50,519
Maybe they're like, hey, Lake Washington not that far up

767
00:40:50,559 --> 00:40:52,039
the road, do you want to come play for Penn

768
00:40:52,079 --> 00:40:54,159
State and being our quarterback leader? Because I don't think

769
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:55,840
I mean, you could go with greg and Mayer the

770
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:58,480
next year. And I don't know what Drew Aller's eligibility

771
00:40:58,559 --> 00:41:00,239
looks like or if he's just gonna go to the

772
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:03,280
draft anyways, Who knows what happens with that situation, right,

773
00:41:05,519 --> 00:41:07,840
But like somewhere in a school that's just kind of

774
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:11,039
like a quarterback way like Auburn, if they're able to

775
00:41:11,039 --> 00:41:14,440
maintain their roster after the Hughes freeze firing, like hey,

776
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:17,159
can they go poach him? We'll see, obviously, and you know,

777
00:41:17,199 --> 00:41:19,480
maybe he just wants to stay and play at Maryland.

778
00:41:20,039 --> 00:41:23,360
In terms of the game, I think that Illinois, like

779
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:26,280
you know, they played good against teams that they're better than,

780
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:29,039
and they're better than Maryland. Their last game they just

781
00:41:29,079 --> 00:41:31,840
had a bye week, their last game against Rutgers. I mean,

782
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:34,639
they are able to handle business. And I know we're

783
00:41:34,639 --> 00:41:37,440
not gonna look at, well, Rutgers just played Maryland. So

784
00:41:37,599 --> 00:41:39,840
that's not how football works, That's not how any team

785
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:41,960
sports were. So you play the game for the reason.

786
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,280
You don't look at every single like, oh, they played

787
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:46,079
this team, this team, this team, try to compare. We're

788
00:41:46,079 --> 00:41:50,119
not the college football playoff commtee. We're just here to

789
00:41:50,159 --> 00:41:54,880
predict the game. And I mean if they just halt

790
00:41:55,039 --> 00:41:57,880
the running attack of Maryland and they are just able

791
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:00,360
to kind of just chuck it around and keeping on

792
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:04,840
the ground and kind of attacked Maryland in both ways offensively,

793
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:07,599
I think they're gonna do just fine. Honestly, I like that.

794
00:42:07,639 --> 00:42:10,519
I don't think the Illinois defense is particularly amazing, but

795
00:42:10,519 --> 00:42:13,320
they have a great player and Gabe Jackets a good

796
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:16,119
solid front. Their secondary has been like on and off

797
00:42:16,119 --> 00:42:19,239
this season. I don't think Maryland's gonna make too much

798
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:22,119
differences on the outside to really, you know, come away

799
00:42:22,159 --> 00:42:24,719
with the win. So I like Illinois in the spot.

800
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:28,280
Oh I it's crazy to say that as them being

801
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:30,480
a fourteen and a half point favorites, But you know,

802
00:42:32,559 --> 00:42:35,639
Purdue Washington. Could Washington get upset for the second week,

803
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:39,360
I don't think so. I think like that was seriously

804
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:42,920
a condition's pace game. You know, this game's at Husky Stadium, Purdue,

805
00:42:43,039 --> 00:42:46,639
you know, what, what are they playing for at this

806
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:49,599
point in the season. It'll be interesting to see if

807
00:42:49,639 --> 00:42:51,800
Jonan Coleman's back or not, because if he's not, I

808
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:53,920
think this could get a little bit more troublesome. You know,

809
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:56,800
he's a bowling ball type of running back, just gonna

810
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:58,960
go down through the wanes, through the gaps, you know,

811
00:42:59,079 --> 00:43:01,679
try to knock over some people and this, that and

812
00:43:01,679 --> 00:43:06,960
the other. Right, I think he's a good player. And yeah,

813
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,119
Denzel Boston has been amazing on the season. You know,

814
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:11,440
Demon Williams. Can he have a get right game, you know,

815
00:43:11,559 --> 00:43:13,039
chuck it in around. Maybe he could have a three

816
00:43:13,119 --> 00:43:16,159
hundred one hundred yard game or something like that. You know,

817
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:19,599
I like Washington in this spot and then I don't

818
00:43:19,639 --> 00:43:22,039
have too much x's and I was in Ohio State UCLA.

819
00:43:22,119 --> 00:43:26,840
This one will be on NBC at seven thirty. Can

820
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:30,599
you CLA have any offensive success on Ohio State? I

821
00:43:30,639 --> 00:43:34,880
think it's the big question to ask because look, Nico,

822
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:37,800
he started out the year super rough, right, and then

823
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:40,079
all of a sudden, new Heizel, you know, fits more

824
00:43:40,079 --> 00:43:43,119
to his style in terms of trying to scheme up things.

825
00:43:43,119 --> 00:43:45,079
And you know, they're winning a couple of ball games

826
00:43:45,119 --> 00:43:48,199
and he's looking a lot better. He's also a leading

827
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:50,840
rusher on the on the year too. If you U

828
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:53,519
CLA can find a way to score some points, I think, Wow,

829
00:43:53,679 --> 00:43:55,679
I don't really think they have a chance to win

830
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:59,000
just because Ohio State's just this walking you know, they

831
00:43:59,119 --> 00:44:03,400
just just walking wrecking ball that just destroys any and everything,

832
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:06,800
and they just they're They're like a tornado. They come through,

833
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:08,880
they come into your building, or you go to them,

834
00:44:09,159 --> 00:44:10,599
which I don't know why you would ever go to

835
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:13,519
a tornado, but you know, in just this hypothetical sense,

836
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,159
you go to them and they kind of just destroy you.

837
00:44:17,159 --> 00:44:19,840
You know, take your lunch money, you know, take everything

838
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:23,199
you have and then bang they spit you back out

839
00:44:23,199 --> 00:44:24,559
and you continue on with your season.

840
00:44:24,679 --> 00:44:24,880
Speaker 3: Right.

841
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 2: So, I know that's a weird way to describe things. Uh,

842
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:34,599
Like they have just been so good and I think

843
00:44:34,639 --> 00:44:37,559
sayanch won the Heisman. I mean he is so efficient

844
00:44:37,639 --> 00:44:41,199
on the season, two of three of two point fifty one,

845
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:46,360
like been a good ballplayer. Jeremiah Smith, Carnel Tay. I

846
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:48,599
mean there's just you can name all the players on

847
00:44:48,639 --> 00:44:52,199
the team, right, I mean, their defensive line and linebackers

848
00:44:52,199 --> 00:44:54,320
have been great. Arbou Reese has been a really nice

849
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:57,400
surprise this season. He's been a dominant guy. He's someone

850
00:44:57,440 --> 00:44:59,400
that's gonna shoot up the mock draft boards more and

851
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:01,159
more as a can continues to go on. This is

852
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:03,960
just such a fun team. Just such a fun team.

853
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:09,280
I I like watching Ohio State football. Is that crazy

854
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:11,960
to say? I probably shouldn't as a Michigan guy, But

855
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:14,880
I'm not Michigan fan. I'm a Michigan State fan, and

856
00:45:15,039 --> 00:45:17,880
you know there's no rivalry there. I mean, we lose

857
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:20,239
every time we have to beat them since like twenty fifteen,

858
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:23,440
So hell, I'll root for him. Also, one of my

859
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:26,639
best friends is an Ohio State fan. So and he

860
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:29,679
watches like every game from like the first quarter to

861
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:32,119
the fourth quarter, like it doesn't matter. They could be

862
00:45:32,199 --> 00:45:35,840
playing freaking you know, your local JV high school football team.

863
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:38,119
He will sit there and watch it. Man, I don't

864
00:45:38,119 --> 00:45:40,840
blame them. I mean it's fun rooting for a team

865
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:45,000
and killing everybody you know when they're good. So but Eddie, who, Yeah,

866
00:45:45,079 --> 00:45:47,559
I think Ohio State, like the spread at this game

867
00:45:47,679 --> 00:45:49,400
is thirty two and a half. I don't know if

868
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:52,480
they cover that. I can't believe it's actually that high,

869
00:45:52,559 --> 00:45:55,039
over under a fifty eight and a half, Like so

870
00:45:55,079 --> 00:46:02,639
what thirteen toldals gotta be gosh, so their team total's

871
00:46:02,639 --> 00:46:07,960
gotta be like forty something. Yeah, I I mean they're

872
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:10,559
gonna win or it should be like third oh I

873
00:46:10,599 --> 00:46:13,119
don't know. I can't do that mathom I had guys,

874
00:46:13,119 --> 00:46:15,320
you know that you know that I don't know. I

875
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:20,880
actually could look right now. I'm curious, which uh yeah,

876
00:46:21,039 --> 00:46:23,880
I mean this is I can't believe the college football

877
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:27,280
season is coming to an end here so shortly soon.

878
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:30,639
It's so sad to see. I mean, we're in maction mode.

879
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:33,199
Maction is probably one of the greatest things ever invented.

880
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:36,199
Watch it a little bit of that Ohio State Western Michigan.

881
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:39,119
I was on a call for a basketball game this

882
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:43,599
evening after well after recording this, what is the Ohio

883
00:46:43,639 --> 00:46:47,960
State team total? You didn't bet money line on this game?

884
00:46:48,079 --> 00:46:50,320
I think if you bet UCLA you'd probably win a

885
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:54,880
million dollars forty and a half. So I was writing

886
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:57,440
in the forties. Do they get to that? Did they

887
00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:00,639
see us? I don't know they I don't know because

888
00:47:00,639 --> 00:47:03,280
they kind of slowball everything in the second half, so

889
00:47:04,599 --> 00:47:06,880
who knows. Maybe they want to put some points up

890
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:12,000
at home. Well see, I mean, look, they play UCLA

891
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:15,199
and then Maryland and then they do have the game

892
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:17,119
at the end of the season, which I can't wait

893
00:47:17,159 --> 00:47:20,280
to preview that one. We'll definitely have Tyler Danberg on

894
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:23,360
the show. Oh man, I just get so excited thinking

895
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:26,159
about that game, even though Michigan's won it, and technically

896
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:28,559
I hate Michigan. It's such a good football game every year,

897
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:31,920
Like it's been probably the most entertaining college football product

898
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:37,880
consistently every single season. Honestly, like that game has been great.

899
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:40,880
Maybe not last year, but in terms of the dramatics

900
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:43,960
and Michigan just you know, basically winning without like, you know,

901
00:47:44,079 --> 00:47:46,920
an FBS caliber quarterback, no offense to Jack Tuttle or

902
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:50,719
Davis Warren or Jaydon Davis or Jaydon Denegal. It's Hydon Denegaal.

903
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:52,719
I mean, I know San Diego State took a bad

904
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:55,719
loss this weekend, but it's hard to go play at

905
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:58,239
Hawaii and come out with a win. San Diego State

906
00:47:58,239 --> 00:47:59,599
has been good, Like I think they can still win

907
00:47:59,639 --> 00:48:03,400
the Mountain. Obviously, listen to Madazamaic about that, right, get

908
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:05,400
off my pylon, and you know the rest of the

909
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:07,440
college great Iron Coast to Coast Network. Make sure you're

910
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:11,760
tuning into all the podcasts on the feed. But with

911
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:14,159
that being said, this is going to be the conclusion

912
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:18,119
of the Big Ten paradigm. Hope you enjoy the episode.

913
00:48:18,159 --> 00:48:20,719
You know, I ran a little longer than I thought. Honestly,

914
00:48:21,119 --> 00:48:24,639
I'm coming off of sickness, and uh, you know, later

915
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:26,880
weeks we get to talk more previews and talk more

916
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:29,599
stuff that you know we're gonna look ahead to after

917
00:48:29,679 --> 00:48:32,639
the season. Still some big games this week. It should

918
00:48:32,679 --> 00:48:34,000
be a lot of fun. Can't wait to break it

919
00:48:34,039 --> 00:48:37,000
down with you early next week, hopefully, you know, I'm

920
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:41,000
not still ill. Gotta got a couple of plans this weekend,

921
00:48:41,079 --> 00:48:44,119
but you know, Sunday, hopefully I get to record, get

922
00:48:44,119 --> 00:48:47,039
this out on Monday. It'll be all great and good.

923
00:48:47,079 --> 00:48:48,760
But until then, next.

924
00:48:48,559 --> 00:48:52,280
Speaker 3: Time you see me, I hope you enjoy, you know,

925
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:54,159
the rest of your week, going into your weekend and

926
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:56,679
enjoying college football this Friday and Saturday and all the

927
00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:58,400
days that you can watch it because it's such a

928
00:48:58,440 --> 00:48:59,000
great sport.

929
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:03,320
Speaker 2: I could not appreciate covering it more. But until then, everybody,

930
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:03,960
see y'all,