WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:01.840 Don't you latte sipping leeches? 2 00:00:01.960 --> 00:00:06.080 Understand they've seen enough of these Hollywood super hunks. We 3 00:00:06.160 --> 00:00:09.919 need a don't be unappealing loser and every man. 4 00:00:11.519 --> 00:00:14.119 Can you help me out any change for a dollar? Oh? 5 00:00:14.279 --> 00:00:15.439 I also need a dollar? 6 00:00:24.039 --> 00:00:26.199 You are acceptable? 7 00:00:26.640 --> 00:00:28.239 Ray? Do you want to see me naked? 8 00:00:28.320 --> 00:00:28.480 Oh? 9 00:00:28.480 --> 00:00:29.920 There's no nudity in this movie? 10 00:00:29.960 --> 00:00:30.640 What movie? 11 00:00:30.879 --> 00:00:32.359 Four Finger Discount? 12 00:00:32.439 --> 00:00:50.719 Dude, Welcome to four Finger Discount where today we're gonna 13 00:00:50.719 --> 00:00:53.200 be kicking off season twenty one of the show. We're 14 00:00:53.200 --> 00:00:54.759 gonna be reviewing Homer and the Whopper. 15 00:00:54.799 --> 00:00:56.920 I'm Dando and I am guy. Nice to be here 16 00:00:56.920 --> 00:00:59.880 for season twenty one. Can you believe we've made it this? 17 00:01:00.240 --> 00:01:02.079 I actually can't believe it. We've been doing this show 18 00:01:02.119 --> 00:01:04.599 now for ten years. Fourth Finger Discounts have been on 19 00:01:04.640 --> 00:01:06.719 the air for ten and a half years, season twenty 20 00:01:06.760 --> 00:01:08.359 one of the show. I had no idea'd last this 21 00:01:08.480 --> 00:01:11.079 long doing the show. And now we're getting incredible guest 22 00:01:11.079 --> 00:01:12.799 stars coming on to review the episodes with us as well. 23 00:01:12.840 --> 00:01:15.760 We really are. Yeah. Yes, we've had comedians, We've had 24 00:01:15.840 --> 00:01:18.959 authors and that's it plenty. 25 00:01:19.319 --> 00:01:21.840 We feel like comedians are the best guests for podcasts. 26 00:01:21.680 --> 00:01:24.359 It's just it's their domain these days. I think podcasts 27 00:01:24.359 --> 00:01:24.640 would know. 28 00:01:24.840 --> 00:01:26.480 We say this, will all do respect to the author 29 00:01:26.519 --> 00:01:28.879 that we had on No. No, We've had terrific guests 30 00:01:28.879 --> 00:01:29.120 so far. 31 00:01:29.480 --> 00:01:30.879 It works for a funny, it works for a placket 32 00:01:30.920 --> 00:01:32.799 does podcasts as well. So you know that's correct. 33 00:01:32.799 --> 00:01:33.840 He knows, he knows the drill. 34 00:01:33.959 --> 00:01:35.760 Mellan Siegel. Yes, the ringer. 35 00:01:35.799 --> 00:01:37.840 You've gone through your rolodex, you've gone through your folder, 36 00:01:37.840 --> 00:01:40.799 and you've been hassling people. We've been sliding into dms 37 00:01:40.920 --> 00:01:43.120 every day. I'm hustling every day, you're hustling. Yeah. 38 00:01:43.519 --> 00:01:46.079 And the new format here at Fourth Finger Discount is 39 00:01:46.079 --> 00:01:47.799 basically we're going to be as I just meet my 40 00:01:47.840 --> 00:01:51.120 phone is. We're going to be doing season twenty one 41 00:01:51.200 --> 00:01:52.959 as we usually do, and then we're going to be 42 00:01:53.040 --> 00:01:55.560 getting either bi weekly at least once a month, but 43 00:01:55.599 --> 00:01:58.760 I'm thinking maybe bi weekly doing the classic reviews, but 44 00:01:58.879 --> 00:02:01.359 with guests. And you would have known. Last week we 45 00:02:01.359 --> 00:02:04.519 had Tom Wikimon, comedian Nina Oyama. She came on to 46 00:02:04.519 --> 00:02:06.480 review scenes of the class struggle in Springfield. That's going 47 00:02:06.519 --> 00:02:08.039 to be coming up in your feeds. We've got people 48 00:02:08.039 --> 00:02:11.280 like Ed Cavalley coming on. Yes, I'm surprised. I want 49 00:02:11.319 --> 00:02:12.439 to leak them all, but there's just some of the 50 00:02:12.520 --> 00:02:13.879 names that are coming up on four figured this game. 51 00:02:13.960 --> 00:02:17.240 Please don't leak. And also, is this just an excuse 52 00:02:17.360 --> 00:02:18.639 not to talk about season twenty one? 53 00:02:18.879 --> 00:02:21.199 No, it's not at all. It's I found honestly, it's 54 00:02:21.240 --> 00:02:22.759 just the way it's going to work is that you 55 00:02:22.800 --> 00:02:25.319 look at the stats and people are less interested in 56 00:02:25.400 --> 00:02:28.680 listening to season twenty one reviews as are the classic ones. 57 00:02:28.680 --> 00:02:30.159 And that just makes sense. We grew up in the 58 00:02:30.159 --> 00:02:32.240 classic ones. We love the classic ones. But I just 59 00:02:32.240 --> 00:02:35.840 want to something different, you know, as good as as 60 00:02:35.840 --> 00:02:37.840 good as it's like you and I bantering with that chemistry, 61 00:02:37.879 --> 00:02:39.960 It's like, let's get guests on. I want to hear 62 00:02:40.000 --> 00:02:41.520 what other people think about the Simpsons as well. 63 00:02:41.560 --> 00:02:43.080 The great thing is about science. The great thinking about 64 00:02:43.120 --> 00:02:45.479 chemistry is the more elements you add, the more interesting 65 00:02:45.479 --> 00:02:47.800 it becomes. Yeah, so that's true. That's true. Sorry, I'm 66 00:02:47.800 --> 00:02:49.560 just checking my phone is on mute as well. 67 00:02:49.680 --> 00:02:53.680 Yeah, okay, is it? It was? It was okay cool? Yeah, 68 00:02:53.680 --> 00:02:55.400 but yeah, as I said, we're here to review Homer 69 00:02:55.520 --> 00:02:56.960 the Whopper. You were saying to me a couple of 70 00:02:57.000 --> 00:02:58.800 days ago that you did not like this one, or 71 00:02:58.800 --> 00:03:00.719 you actually messed me last night saying it is just shit. 72 00:03:00.879 --> 00:03:02.319 It just me it was his shit, and I was like, 73 00:03:02.599 --> 00:03:03.840 I don't think it was shit. I watched him bet 74 00:03:03.840 --> 00:03:05.360 a couple of weeks ago. I thought it was all right. 75 00:03:05.319 --> 00:03:06.719 And everything's better when you're in bed. 76 00:03:06.879 --> 00:03:09.719 Yeah, exactly, Yeah, and then I rewatching it again today 77 00:03:09.759 --> 00:03:11.439 taking my notes, and yeah, I thought it was fine. 78 00:03:11.520 --> 00:03:14.199 There's for a season premiere. It did its job. I 79 00:03:14.439 --> 00:03:17.639 like that, even though because this was written by Seth 80 00:03:17.719 --> 00:03:20.719 Rogen and Evan Goldberg, exactly right, And I just thought 81 00:03:20.759 --> 00:03:22.919 that I'm glad that even though he was a voice 82 00:03:22.960 --> 00:03:26.159 in the episode, they didn't incorporate or set didn't incorporate 83 00:03:26.280 --> 00:03:29.120 himself as a as a person into the episode, because 84 00:03:29.319 --> 00:03:32.080 apparently they're massive fanboys that just recently made Super Bad. 85 00:03:32.120 --> 00:03:34.400 Symptons were big fans are super Bad. He was working 86 00:03:34.400 --> 00:03:35.960 on The Green Hornet at the time when he was 87 00:03:36.000 --> 00:03:38.439 writing this episode, and he just thought, well, hey, Ricky 88 00:03:38.479 --> 00:03:40.879 Gervais was able to write an episode and be in it, 89 00:03:40.919 --> 00:03:42.759 maybe I can do so as well, which I think 90 00:03:42.840 --> 00:03:46.159 is a little bit like a bit of a little bit. 91 00:03:46.360 --> 00:03:49.719 Yeah, they're like a movie that they probably watched Take 92 00:03:49.759 --> 00:03:52.319 My Wife Please or whatever time episode was, Well, we 93 00:03:52.360 --> 00:03:53.520 can certainly do better than this. 94 00:03:53.599 --> 00:03:56.000 Well, I live by the motto of the worst I 95 00:03:56.000 --> 00:03:57.680 can say is no. So I figured, if you've got 96 00:03:57.680 --> 00:03:59.680 the opportunity to ask, and I just think this walking 97 00:03:59.759 --> 00:04:01.840 on saying can I write an episode just seems like 98 00:04:01.960 --> 00:04:03.759 not as Hey, can I be involved in some way? 99 00:04:03.800 --> 00:04:05.080 Can I write an episode? Please? 100 00:04:05.159 --> 00:04:09.599 It does help. If you are the writers of super Bad, 101 00:04:09.960 --> 00:04:14.159 probably the best teen comedy of the twenty first century, 102 00:04:14.680 --> 00:04:16.959 you reckon, Oh yeah, I'll stand by that. 103 00:04:17.120 --> 00:04:19.360 Well, they don't make them anymore. That's the problem writers 104 00:04:19.399 --> 00:04:21.519 these days. They have the opportunity to create the next one. 105 00:04:21.920 --> 00:04:24.120 That is true, they still make them. They're a little 106 00:04:24.120 --> 00:04:26.480 more under the radar, but not on the level is 107 00:04:26.519 --> 00:04:29.319 super Bad, not as widely distributed and widely seene this 108 00:04:29.360 --> 00:04:32.800 suddenly super Bad. But even putting that aside, Soper bad 109 00:04:33.120 --> 00:04:34.279 really really good movie. 110 00:04:34.480 --> 00:04:36.399 James L. Brooks thought so as well. I understand he 111 00:04:36.879 --> 00:04:39.959 was a fan or he admired it. So he listened 112 00:04:40.040 --> 00:04:43.319 to Seth and Evan. So yeah, by man is coming 113 00:04:43.319 --> 00:04:45.560 to the writer's room throws some ideas around. See what happens? 114 00:04:46.040 --> 00:04:47.800 What happened? They got to write an episode. 115 00:04:48.120 --> 00:04:50.879 To episode several stories and they're like no, no, no, no, no, 116 00:04:50.920 --> 00:04:51.800 this one they approved. 117 00:04:51.879 --> 00:04:54.879 That's this one they approved of. And it's good that 118 00:04:54.920 --> 00:04:57.759 you mentioned. Yes, Seth also voices a character in this. 119 00:04:58.759 --> 00:05:01.519 I think one thing that the Sting wishes his performance 120 00:05:01.560 --> 00:05:04.519 in this and their role in this from the aforementioned 121 00:05:04.560 --> 00:05:08.279 Ricky devays is that when Ricky did his bit or 122 00:05:08.519 --> 00:05:10.720 Mate did his guest appearance, he was basically David Brent. 123 00:05:11.199 --> 00:05:14.519 He's just been the office. Yeah, there was no variation 124 00:05:14.680 --> 00:05:18.120 or anything like that. Whereas you recognize Seth Rogan's voice 125 00:05:18.120 --> 00:05:20.439 when you know the second year, it's very very distinctive. 126 00:05:20.439 --> 00:05:24.079 But yeah, he's not doing the traditional Seth Rogan stuff. 127 00:05:24.079 --> 00:05:25.720 I mean, this was very much in the phase of 128 00:05:25.959 --> 00:05:30.079 or very much in the era of Pineapple Express. Yeah, 129 00:05:30.120 --> 00:05:32.920 it's the time when Seth Rogan was what we traditionally 130 00:05:32.920 --> 00:05:36.560 think of a Seth rogen kind of the getting high 131 00:05:36.759 --> 00:05:37.680 manchild kind of deal. 132 00:05:38.199 --> 00:05:40.279 That was just him from the get go. Right, Yeah, 133 00:05:40.279 --> 00:05:43.199 he's not really that anymore. No, he's very much a 134 00:05:43.240 --> 00:05:45.839 power player in Hollywood. He's very much sort of a ya, 135 00:05:45.920 --> 00:05:49.600 pivotal power player. But in this he's playing this personal trainer. 136 00:05:49.839 --> 00:05:55.439 He's got Seth's traditional good comic timing, good comic delivery, 137 00:05:55.480 --> 00:05:58.680 all that stuff. But yeah, he's not the No, No, 138 00:05:58.720 --> 00:06:02.079 he's not. Yeah, replaying the character that he was best 139 00:06:02.120 --> 00:06:04.639 known for. I think I really liked him in Knocked Up. 140 00:06:05.199 --> 00:06:06.240 He's very good knocked Up. 141 00:06:06.439 --> 00:06:07.759 Yeah, super relatable. 142 00:06:09.040 --> 00:06:11.279 I've got a bit of time for Seth Rogen as 143 00:06:11.560 --> 00:06:16.000 an actor and a creative person. He's done, yeah, roles 144 00:06:16.000 --> 00:06:19.319 that are not comedic. I mean, he's in Steve Jobs, 145 00:06:19.360 --> 00:06:22.959 the movie about the legendary founder of Apple or creator 146 00:06:23.000 --> 00:06:24.959 of Apple products. He plays like Steve wisney Ack. And 147 00:06:25.000 --> 00:06:26.519 that was a really good performance. I mean, and he's 148 00:06:26.600 --> 00:06:29.319 up again. People like Kate Winslet, Michael Faspener, very good actor. 149 00:06:29.399 --> 00:06:32.439 He's in The Fableman's, the Steven Spielberg movie, giving a 150 00:06:32.519 --> 00:06:36.079 legitimately good dramatic performance. He's a solid dude, solid creative dude. 151 00:06:36.199 --> 00:06:39.279 He's the man behind the upcoming reboot of Dark Wing 152 00:06:39.399 --> 00:06:40.079 Duck Well. 153 00:06:40.079 --> 00:06:41.959 He does like his popular culture stuff. I mean, I 154 00:06:42.079 --> 00:06:44.399 think we were talking about this earlier. He rebooted Teenage 155 00:06:44.439 --> 00:06:45.439 Mint Nindaturd. 156 00:06:45.079 --> 00:06:49.360 Boy, did he Yeah, he's behind the Boys, He's behind Preacher. 157 00:06:49.399 --> 00:06:51.360 He's got the show on Apple TV called the Studio. 158 00:06:51.439 --> 00:06:53.279 That's very, very popular and attracted a lot of great 159 00:06:53.279 --> 00:06:56.360 talent to it. Man, dude knows this stuff. 160 00:06:56.399 --> 00:06:58.839 But this this episode here, Home of the Whopper. As 161 00:06:58.839 --> 00:07:00.199 I say, I enjoyed it for the most part. I've 162 00:07:00.199 --> 00:07:01.800 met it no secret on this podcast. And I'm not 163 00:07:01.839 --> 00:07:04.680 the biggest superhero guy, you know. I've just never I 164 00:07:04.800 --> 00:07:07.759 liked Batman Forever and Batman Returns and Batman was the 165 00:07:07.800 --> 00:07:11.040 other Batman Robin. I like those movies. Yes, I've just 166 00:07:11.079 --> 00:07:13.360 never been a big comic book guy superhero guy. And 167 00:07:13.360 --> 00:07:15.360 then when they started making all these MCU films, it 168 00:07:15.439 --> 00:07:17.480 was like I just could not give a shit. I 169 00:07:17.560 --> 00:07:19.439 know they're huge, but I just don't give a shit. Right, 170 00:07:19.480 --> 00:07:21.680 I'm glad that people are finally starting to have burnout 171 00:07:21.680 --> 00:07:24.560 and we're moving on from superhero movies. This one here, 172 00:07:24.800 --> 00:07:25.959 I've read that it was meant to be sort of 173 00:07:26.000 --> 00:07:28.680 a parody of the way superhero movies have ruined in 174 00:07:28.680 --> 00:07:30.439 Hollywood at that point in time, and I'm like, but 175 00:07:30.480 --> 00:07:32.439 were they? Were they the biggest thing in the world. Well, 176 00:07:33.279 --> 00:07:37.000 this is two thousand and nine, okay, So MCU was 177 00:07:37.160 --> 00:07:39.279 just down together. It was two thousand and eight, wasn't 178 00:07:39.319 --> 00:07:40.040 it Okay? 179 00:07:40.120 --> 00:07:42.439 Well, you coming off two thousand and eight big year 180 00:07:42.480 --> 00:07:45.560 in terms of like iman big hit, everyone loves our 181 00:07:45.639 --> 00:07:48.519 DJs as that was a big one. But also that 182 00:07:48.600 --> 00:07:51.560 year was Dark Knight, and everyone's kind of looking at 183 00:07:51.600 --> 00:07:54.800 that as like, well, comic book movies, the net just 184 00:07:54.800 --> 00:07:57.160 be kids in he moo it. Everyone's looking at what 185 00:07:57.240 --> 00:08:00.240 this is a legitimately good movie. Dark Knight is pretty good. 186 00:08:00.240 --> 00:08:02.199 It's pretty good movie. But I think, yeah, a lot 187 00:08:02.199 --> 00:08:04.759 of people are looking at that being the pivot point 188 00:08:04.800 --> 00:08:08.879 of like, yeah, you can actually make huge blockbuses that 189 00:08:08.920 --> 00:08:12.160 are also artistically credible. It felt like a real seed 190 00:08:12.240 --> 00:08:13.160 change in a lot of ways. 191 00:08:13.600 --> 00:08:17.000 Call me in the minority. Christopher Nolan did more damage 192 00:08:17.000 --> 00:08:19.040 to the superhero genre than anyone else in the history 193 00:08:19.040 --> 00:08:22.199 of superhero films. Like everything has to be fucking sad 194 00:08:22.199 --> 00:08:24.879 and gloomy because of Christopher Nolan. Great movies, but everyone 195 00:08:24.879 --> 00:08:26.199 tried to copy it after that. 196 00:08:26.199 --> 00:08:27.839 That's the thing. Yes, everyone's sort of jumping on the 197 00:08:27.839 --> 00:08:30.360 bandwagon after that. I would say Zack Snyder has probably 198 00:08:30.560 --> 00:08:34.559 caused more damage because he tried because Nolan did. That's 199 00:08:34.600 --> 00:08:36.039 the thing. He did the same thing tonally, but he 200 00:08:36.080 --> 00:08:38.159 didn't have the intelligence that Christopher Nolan had. 201 00:08:38.559 --> 00:08:40.000 But if no one didn't do what he did. And 202 00:08:40.679 --> 00:08:42.240 granted they were good, they were great films. Do I 203 00:08:42.240 --> 00:08:44.600 ever want to revisit them? Probably not, But like they 204 00:08:44.639 --> 00:08:46.840 were great at the time, he got Heath Legend, that 205 00:08:46.879 --> 00:08:49.519 Oscar that he was looking for, it just ruined. It 206 00:08:49.639 --> 00:08:52.840 ruined the genre for me. Granted the MCU didn't really 207 00:08:52.840 --> 00:08:54.080 go down that path. It's more DC. 208 00:08:54.799 --> 00:08:57.200 Yeah, I'm inclined to say that the mc you may 209 00:08:57.279 --> 00:09:00.759 have done more damage in terms of everyone. Everything has 210 00:09:00.799 --> 00:09:03.960 to be connected. Yeah, yeah, you can't just have sort 211 00:09:03.960 --> 00:09:05.000 of standalone movies. 212 00:09:05.039 --> 00:09:08.159 Now I can get the true Yeah, I think that. 213 00:09:08.320 --> 00:09:11.039 I think that's probably more damaged. And I'm all for 214 00:09:11.120 --> 00:09:15.519 having sequels and that's continuing your story. They don't have 215 00:09:15.759 --> 00:09:18.600 the Spider Man films be connected to the fucking other 216 00:09:18.639 --> 00:09:19.240 films I am man. 217 00:09:19.759 --> 00:09:21.480 And that's why it's sort of falling apart. Now, that 218 00:09:21.600 --> 00:09:24.360 was lightning in a bottle. I mean, I'll give Kevin 219 00:09:24.399 --> 00:09:27.559 Fagey's props and all the creative team who put all 220 00:09:27.559 --> 00:09:29.720 that shit together and made it work the way I did. 221 00:09:30.480 --> 00:09:33.159 They should have either stopped well, they shouldn't have stopped. 222 00:09:32.840 --> 00:09:35.519 Completely the Seinfeld model though, Yeah, go out when you're 223 00:09:35.559 --> 00:09:39.039 on top, try something different, take a break, to take 224 00:09:39.039 --> 00:09:40.799 a break. We keep doing this film, but don't trying 225 00:09:41.000 --> 00:09:42.840 and say, oh, we're still part of this is still 226 00:09:42.840 --> 00:09:44.240 part of the MC is just the next name. 227 00:09:44.639 --> 00:09:47.480 Just make it good, just reboot, just like start over. 228 00:09:47.559 --> 00:09:47.720 Yeah. 229 00:09:47.799 --> 00:09:52.600 Yeah, because if you'd ended it endgame, people would have gone, whoa, yeah, 230 00:09:52.639 --> 00:09:55.440 what an ending. And now it's just gonna like everything's 231 00:09:55.480 --> 00:09:59.159 tainted as a result. It's a shame. But yeah, as 232 00:09:59.159 --> 00:10:01.720 you mentioned, even Seth Throgan was getting in on the game. 233 00:10:02.360 --> 00:10:03.240 The Green Hornet. 234 00:10:03.279 --> 00:10:04.960 Yeah, the Green Hornet was a character that had been 235 00:10:05.000 --> 00:10:05.919 around for ages. 236 00:10:07.039 --> 00:10:08.240 What is the Green Hornet. 237 00:10:08.360 --> 00:10:11.360 Well, he's basically a knockoff Batman in terms of like 238 00:10:11.480 --> 00:10:15.799 he I think Green hornets alter ego is like this 239 00:10:16.159 --> 00:10:21.840 big city socialite type wants to fight crime. He's not 240 00:10:21.879 --> 00:10:24.120 that well known. I don't know that much about his backstory, 241 00:10:24.120 --> 00:10:26.919 but I know that he does have an Asian sidekick 242 00:10:26.960 --> 00:10:30.320 who basically does a lot of the heavy lifting. There 243 00:10:30.360 --> 00:10:32.440 was a TV series about the Green Hornet back in 244 00:10:32.480 --> 00:10:36.080 the late sixties. The reason anyone talks about it is 245 00:10:36.120 --> 00:10:39.639 because Bruce Lee played, is he really yeah, wow, okay, 246 00:10:39.840 --> 00:10:40.559 your green Hornet. 247 00:10:40.559 --> 00:10:43.360 You got Kato, and Kato is his sort of when 248 00:10:43.399 --> 00:10:47.120 they're in their secret identities or whatever, he's kind of 249 00:10:47.159 --> 00:10:48.960 like his man servant or his valet or something. But 250 00:10:48.960 --> 00:10:51.919 he's also yeah, it's his martial arts kick very much. 251 00:10:52.679 --> 00:10:55.159 Except yeah, I mean, I can't for the life of 252 00:10:55.240 --> 00:10:57.279 me remember who played the green Hornet in the TV series. 253 00:10:57.279 --> 00:10:59.679 But it was like, we don't give a fuck about 254 00:10:59.720 --> 00:11:02.840 that guy. Look at this Bruce Lee character. Holy shite. 255 00:11:03.039 --> 00:11:06.120 So but he was very much sorry. 256 00:11:06.159 --> 00:11:07.919 He was similar to what he was going through because 257 00:11:07.919 --> 00:11:09.559 they were telling him to lose weight for the film. 258 00:11:09.639 --> 00:11:14.559 That'st thing. Yeah, Seth Rogan. That was generally regarded as, oh, yeah, 259 00:11:15.159 --> 00:11:17.240 it'll smoke a jay and eed a cheezburger, and that's 260 00:11:17.279 --> 00:11:21.320 what a guy who lives that kind of lifestyle looks like. 261 00:11:21.519 --> 00:11:23.000 We can have that when you're you're gonna be the 262 00:11:23.039 --> 00:11:25.399 green HUINNI don't know why I put that voice on, 263 00:11:25.879 --> 00:11:28.879 but yeah, So they made him hit the gym and 264 00:11:28.919 --> 00:11:31.360 all that kind of stuff. But they make everybody hit 265 00:11:31.360 --> 00:11:33.320 the gym even though you don't really need to. 266 00:11:34.919 --> 00:11:35.799 I disagree. 267 00:11:35.840 --> 00:11:38.200 There was there were so many characters, so many superhero 268 00:11:38.320 --> 00:11:40.799 characters who don't have to take their shirts up. I 269 00:11:40.840 --> 00:11:44.399 want to run one particular instance by you. Are you 270 00:11:44.480 --> 00:11:47.480 familiar with the MCU movie The Eternals or I haven't 271 00:11:47.519 --> 00:11:51.799 watched you know what it is? Yeah? No, that's that's 272 00:11:52.759 --> 00:11:56.399 This one had Summerhig Angelia and Jolie, Richard Madden from 273 00:11:56.440 --> 00:11:59.320 Game of Thrones, and a comic actor nam Kamal Nanjiani. 274 00:11:59.639 --> 00:12:01.879 He was the cover of Men's Health not long after 275 00:12:01.919 --> 00:12:04.919 he was announced that he's in the Eternals looking fucking 276 00:12:05.200 --> 00:12:08.039 jack but also just looking like I don't believe that's 277 00:12:08.120 --> 00:12:10.120 I think you might have had a little pharmaceutical help 278 00:12:10.120 --> 00:12:11.679 with that, and you've had a lot of people behind 279 00:12:11.679 --> 00:12:14.799 the scenes say yeah, everyone gets roided up to do this. 280 00:12:15.600 --> 00:12:18.159 He doesn't take your shirt off at any stage during 281 00:12:18.159 --> 00:12:20.000 that During that thing, he doesn't need to be as 282 00:12:20.039 --> 00:12:20.879 built as he is. 283 00:12:21.360 --> 00:12:23.759 Does, but does he look built and strong even with 284 00:12:23.840 --> 00:12:25.879 his shirt on though well he's. 285 00:12:25.679 --> 00:12:28.600 Wearing he's not wearing anything that's form fitting or anything 286 00:12:28.639 --> 00:12:30.879 like that. I mean you you can sort of tell 287 00:12:30.919 --> 00:12:32.799 in his face that these jawel lines a little more pronounced, 288 00:12:32.840 --> 00:12:35.399 and he's got cheap bones and things like that, but. 289 00:12:35.480 --> 00:12:38.519 Does the hero that he's portraying in the comic. 290 00:12:38.279 --> 00:12:40.480 Doesn't even really do anything like lift a planet or 291 00:12:40.519 --> 00:12:41.879 even lift anything all that heavy. 292 00:12:42.159 --> 00:12:46.399 I still ideas there's an image that's expected for superheroes, 293 00:12:46.480 --> 00:12:47.919 and if you want to play that role, then you've 294 00:12:47.919 --> 00:12:50.639 got to look. You gotta look. Oh certain, look, I'm 295 00:12:50.679 --> 00:12:51.559 buying into that mantra. 296 00:12:52.120 --> 00:12:54.799 I think in the cases of the let's talk about 297 00:12:54.799 --> 00:12:57.960 the NCU. I think in the case of Chris Evans's 298 00:12:57.960 --> 00:13:00.840 Captain America, of course in it, because yeah, he's a 299 00:13:00.960 --> 00:13:03.360 ninety eight pound winkling or something. He comes, he takes 300 00:13:03.360 --> 00:13:06.679 a super serum, comes out of the machine. Holy moly, 301 00:13:06.759 --> 00:13:08.919 look at that. I mean, once an agent, Carter just 302 00:13:09.120 --> 00:13:12.320 can't get a hands off him. And Thor's thought, so 303 00:13:12.399 --> 00:13:14.799 Hamsworth has to look like it was already in pretty 304 00:13:14.799 --> 00:13:17.759 good shape. But you know, I don't think Ruffalo hit 305 00:13:17.799 --> 00:13:20.879 the gym all that much. RDJ was apparently it was 306 00:13:20.879 --> 00:13:24.240 never a superhero. Bristband wasn't super hull. That's a good point. Yeah, 307 00:13:24.360 --> 00:13:26.960 I think r DJ, you didn't really see him with 308 00:13:26.960 --> 00:13:28.720 his shirt of all that much, but it was clear 309 00:13:28.720 --> 00:13:30.159 that he'd been hitting the gym as well. 310 00:13:30.960 --> 00:13:34.840 He didn't really look jacked, looked lent h. 311 00:13:35.000 --> 00:13:38.559 Yeah, but yeah, apparently Seth. They were like bulk up man. 312 00:13:38.720 --> 00:13:42.559 Yeah yeah, even though in The Green Horn, at the 313 00:13:42.559 --> 00:13:44.080 best of my reaction, because I watched it once and 314 00:13:44.080 --> 00:13:47.039 they've watched it again, appears in some well tailored suits, 315 00:13:47.039 --> 00:13:48.879 but yeah, yeah, you don't have the sort of hero 316 00:13:49.000 --> 00:13:50.440 shot of him sort of walking around with his shirt. 317 00:13:50.480 --> 00:13:52.480 It was like, wow, Seth's got abs. 318 00:13:52.600 --> 00:13:55.000 Anything with the green in it, I've never seen. I've 319 00:13:55.000 --> 00:13:56.960 just heard it's terrible Greenhorn. I've heard it's not good, 320 00:13:57.039 --> 00:13:58.480 the Green Lent, and I've heard it's horrific. 321 00:13:58.720 --> 00:14:00.039 Green Land's not great. 322 00:14:01.120 --> 00:14:02.559 Which I was disappointed for because I was a big 323 00:14:02.600 --> 00:14:04.039 Ryan Reynolds fan when I was a kid, because I 324 00:14:04.080 --> 00:14:05.840 love two guys again Pizza Play Smart and another. I 325 00:14:05.919 --> 00:14:08.440 just just enjoyed his style of comedy. And then I 326 00:14:08.440 --> 00:14:10.440 saw him as the green Land and I was like 327 00:14:10.720 --> 00:14:13.440 superhero though, yeah, not buying. And then of course he 328 00:14:13.480 --> 00:14:15.559 works for Deadpool, not because he comes across a superhero, 329 00:14:15.559 --> 00:14:17.559 because he's a smart ass. Well that's the works. 330 00:14:17.639 --> 00:14:19.639 Yeah. I haven't read any Deadpool comics, so I mean, 331 00:14:19.679 --> 00:14:23.200 I don't know how close as Deadpool become more Ryan Reynolds. 332 00:14:23.279 --> 00:14:26.679 Yeah, Deadpool was a wise ass de wise Yeah, but 333 00:14:27.960 --> 00:14:30.440 that brand as he tailored it more to the Ryan 334 00:14:30.480 --> 00:14:34.559 Reynolds kind of smart and stick. Oh no, they are 335 00:14:34.600 --> 00:14:36.519 a match made in heaven. They really were. Yeah, it 336 00:14:36.559 --> 00:14:38.480 just starts the line. But yeah, but this best episode, 337 00:14:38.519 --> 00:14:41.120 he is more focusing on Homer's forced he gets cast 338 00:14:41.159 --> 00:14:44.559 as every man. A new superhero movie has just been created, 339 00:14:44.600 --> 00:14:46.799 which was written by comic book guy. Yeah, he's been 340 00:14:46.840 --> 00:14:49.200 written writing comics for all these years. He can'ts Homer 341 00:14:49.320 --> 00:14:51.600 as the as leading role. I did like that. 342 00:14:51.720 --> 00:14:53.799 Well, he wants an every man as everything as every. 343 00:14:53.720 --> 00:14:55.360 Man, and it makes sense because you know, that's the 344 00:14:55.440 --> 00:14:56.679 idea of it. He's meant to be an everything. But 345 00:14:56.679 --> 00:14:58.840 the thing is in the comics, though, doesn't he He 346 00:14:58.960 --> 00:15:01.600 looks fat and then he becomes every man. He's fit. 347 00:15:02.039 --> 00:15:03.480 I don't think he is, That's the thing. 348 00:15:03.519 --> 00:15:07.159 I mean, I thought that bank robbery scene was he No, no, 349 00:15:07.200 --> 00:15:10.120 he was still He's still the same but the same. Okay, Yeah, he's. 350 00:15:10.039 --> 00:15:12.440 In his every man costume, but still he's still around, 351 00:15:12.519 --> 00:15:15.440 still around, Yeah okay, but and even when he touches 352 00:15:15.440 --> 00:15:17.600 the Iron Man comic, because every Man's powers is he 353 00:15:17.679 --> 00:15:19.759 touches the comic book and he can take on the 354 00:15:19.799 --> 00:15:22.360 power of that of that comic books. So he touches 355 00:15:22.399 --> 00:15:25.799 an Iron Man comic, he gets a suit of armor instantly, 356 00:15:26.000 --> 00:15:27.519 but it's a fat suit of armor. 357 00:15:27.679 --> 00:15:30.399 It actually was a good, believable way to get Homer 358 00:15:30.480 --> 00:15:32.440 cast into the role of a superhero. Sure, because that 359 00:15:32.440 --> 00:15:34.519 makes sense. He's every man, right, and comic book guy 360 00:15:34.559 --> 00:15:36.679 is the one that cast him, you know, and hope 361 00:15:36.679 --> 00:15:38.279 it was good at his role. He was good. He 362 00:15:38.360 --> 00:15:39.639 had everything going for me. He had a guy who 363 00:15:39.679 --> 00:15:42.000 was helping him lose weight, Marge fandim more attractive now, 364 00:15:42.039 --> 00:15:43.519 which will touch on in a few moments as well. 365 00:15:44.240 --> 00:15:46.080 Everything was going well for him, and I think it 366 00:15:46.120 --> 00:15:48.440 was really relatable because what was his library? He says, 367 00:15:48.840 --> 00:15:50.799 just swallowing my frustrations and disappointments. 368 00:15:51.200 --> 00:15:53.120 We've all been there, Oh my goodness, yes, oh yeah, 369 00:15:53.120 --> 00:15:57.600 we've all been comforted is it one time? Yeah? Comfort consumers? Yeah. 370 00:15:57.759 --> 00:15:59.559 Or we go on a diet and we lose some 371 00:15:59.600 --> 00:16:01.600 weight and it's like you get tempted by the cheese 372 00:16:01.639 --> 00:16:03.440 on the tables the party. You're like, just what's one 373 00:16:03.440 --> 00:16:05.399 block going to do? And then you start you feel 374 00:16:05.440 --> 00:16:05.840 and you're. 375 00:16:05.679 --> 00:16:08.960 Like, the tiny cubes even has cheap days. 376 00:16:09.039 --> 00:16:11.440 Yes, exactly, So I just thought it was pretty relatable 377 00:16:11.519 --> 00:16:15.159 in this Schwartzenegger exactly right. Yes, I thought he was. Yeah, 378 00:16:15.960 --> 00:16:17.080 they did a good job of making a home to 379 00:16:17.120 --> 00:16:20.759 come across as sympathetic. Yeah, and I'm glad they didn't 380 00:16:20.759 --> 00:16:23.080 touch too much on the Marge story where she found 381 00:16:23.159 --> 00:16:25.120 him more sexually appealing and whatnot, cause I just think 382 00:16:25.120 --> 00:16:29.039 it made her come across quite that's the word superficial, 383 00:16:29.200 --> 00:16:31.879 a little shallow. But you know, but that's believable as well, 384 00:16:31.960 --> 00:16:35.360 because you just we're humans, man, we're animals, and if 385 00:16:35.399 --> 00:16:37.440 your partner looks like that, of course he's gonna find 386 00:16:37.440 --> 00:16:41.159 them more sexually attracted. Yeah, it's good though. Do you 387 00:16:41.200 --> 00:16:43.519 think there was a story there where maybe Marge was 388 00:16:43.519 --> 00:16:45.879 disappointed that he gained weight again and they cut it 389 00:16:45.919 --> 00:16:48.240 because because she just got knocked out by the button 390 00:16:48.279 --> 00:16:49.440 she goes. I think if you just gained a little 391 00:16:49.440 --> 00:16:51.360 bit of weight and then he was just like bloot 392 00:16:51.799 --> 00:16:53.600 wing win win, and that was it. We never see 393 00:16:53.600 --> 00:16:54.080 Marge again. 394 00:16:54.240 --> 00:16:54.840 Yeah, that's it. 395 00:16:55.360 --> 00:16:57.120 I felt like there's like that story didn't get a 396 00:16:57.120 --> 00:16:57.639 proper end. 397 00:16:57.960 --> 00:16:59.360 I don't think it was all that well developed to 398 00:16:59.360 --> 00:17:01.200 begin with, and all honestly, I mean, I don't think 399 00:17:01.200 --> 00:17:02.159 they were playing I don't. 400 00:17:02.039 --> 00:17:03.360 Think the whole ending was pretty rushed. 401 00:17:03.399 --> 00:17:06.119