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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back into another XRP pod, and today is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be fun because we're going to dive into something

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<v Speaker 1>that I've had a lot of you ask about, and

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<v Speaker 1>that is the Quant network. That's right, We're gonna talk

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<v Speaker 1>about the Quant network. And I thought, okay, well I

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<v Speaker 1>need an expert, and none other than, of course, mister

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<v Speaker 1>Jesse coming in from APEX Crypto Insights. How are you, Jesse.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm doing great, Paul. It's an honor to be on

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<v Speaker 2>your show. How are you.

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<v Speaker 1>Nice to see you. Hey, guys, I just to let

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I always try to wear a jacket for

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<v Speaker 1>you because I feel like that's just a respect, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>to the audience for your time. But today I am

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<v Speaker 1>actually on vacation spending some time with the kids, so

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to do a little bit less content. Jesse,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, was so kind to come on and really

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<v Speaker 1>break down what's going on in the Quant network. And

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<v Speaker 1>this is something that has been not only have I

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<v Speaker 1>got a lot of stuff on x about this people

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<v Speaker 1>asking about it, but also lots of comments around what

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<v Speaker 1>is going on with basically a multi chain network, that's

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<v Speaker 1>what it is, and this is something that is a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit different than maybe what you guys think. Remember,

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<v Speaker 1>this is not a blockchain and it's more of a

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<v Speaker 1>an over defining what do they call it, the over ledger,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's an operating system. It's exactly this one's going to.

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<v Speaker 1>Be so and the background on Gilbert was what started

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<v Speaker 1>getting me very intrigued in what they're doing. So if

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<v Speaker 1>you guys haven't done some research on Gilbert, is it

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<v Speaker 1>Verdean or Gilbert? Okay, So this is the guy who

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much founded He's a UK based guy, but he's

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<v Speaker 1>former government enterprise security, so he knows his stuff. And

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<v Speaker 1>I started diving in a little bit more deeper some

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<v Speaker 1>of his historical projects that he's been involved in very

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<v Speaker 1>black box kind of stuff. So that usually means sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>I'm worried about that though, Jesse, I always think psyop

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<v Speaker 1>whenever I see those kinds of markers, but it also

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<v Speaker 1>could be something that is very deep dive. In my

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<v Speaker 1>early era, I worked with guys from DARPA when I

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<v Speaker 1>was at Microsoft. Oh nice, these guys were next level

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<v Speaker 1>brain acts. You know, we had a bunch of geniuses

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<v Speaker 1>in our own group. These guys were next level, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean like the Einstein levels over at DARPA, who essentially

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<v Speaker 1>really created the Internet. Guys, let's just be just remember

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<v Speaker 1>that that's that's where it did come from. So Jesse,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to get into a little bit about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's first go into so there's going to be some

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<v Speaker 1>people out there that don't know anything about QUANT network.

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<v Speaker 1>So first thing is, let's explain what they're trying to do.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, well, it's actually what the what they did. It's

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<v Speaker 2>not yeah exactly, yeah, no, So quant Gilbert Verdian is

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<v Speaker 2>one of the top cybersecurity experts in the world. And

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<v Speaker 2>and if you want me to go down a deep

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<v Speaker 2>rabbit hole rant on on Gilbert Verty and oh my goodness,

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<v Speaker 2>but he understood that in order to he understood that

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<v Speaker 2>we would not get blockchain adoption if we could not

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<v Speaker 2>connect the legacy systems that exist today, which is where

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<v Speaker 2>really all the use cases and the demand is. Because

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<v Speaker 2>he knew that we needed to create an operating system

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<v Speaker 2>to connect the legacy systems to blockchain. You couldn't do

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<v Speaker 2>a layer one, layer two, Layer three doesn't work because

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<v Speaker 2>right now the interoperability that we've seen is mostly at

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<v Speaker 2>the DeFi level. But what people in crypto are not

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<v Speaker 2>are not getting and it's just because they haven't listened

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<v Speaker 2>to Gilbert. It's I wouldn't I wouldn't have understood this

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<v Speaker 2>if I had not listened to Gilbert Verdi and explain it.

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<v Speaker 2>But like all like the central banks, commercial banks, these

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<v Speaker 2>big FinTechs, corporations, every industry that they're running, all these

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<v Speaker 2>industries are are stuck in legacy these systems, which means

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<v Speaker 2>they cannot speak to blockchain. Like all their software, their databases,

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<v Speaker 2>everything that every industry is running on literally cannot talk

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<v Speaker 2>the blockchain. It's not compatible. And so you have to

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<v Speaker 2>bridge that old world with the new world. And the

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<v Speaker 2>only way you can do that is you have to

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<v Speaker 2>create an operating system. And he understood this because he

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<v Speaker 2>knew that he had to do technically what Microsoft did

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<v Speaker 2>for the Third Industrial Revolution. Yea, he had to create

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<v Speaker 2>an operating system, and that's what he did. So Microsoft

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<v Speaker 2>Windows is a sorry quint Overlager is an operating system

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<v Speaker 2>that literally allows all of the legacy systems that exist

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<v Speaker 2>today to connect the blockchain, and not only connect the

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<v Speaker 2>blockchain seamlessly in a fully scalable way, secure, a future proof,

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<v Speaker 2>secure everything, it also allows all of these companies and

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<v Speaker 2>corporations and central banks to pick multiple blockchains, so pick

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<v Speaker 2>the best features of each blockchain and build what is

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<v Speaker 2>called an m DAP, a multichain application. They call him

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<v Speaker 2>maps now, so that's what he did. So now not

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<v Speaker 2>only are these legacy systems able to connect to blockchain seamlessly,

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<v Speaker 2>they're also able to pick the best features so and

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<v Speaker 2>build what are called m DAP. So like having trying

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<v Speaker 2>to get blockchain adoption without quant is almost like having

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<v Speaker 2>the Internet, but being stuck with one website, right, you

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<v Speaker 2>just can't get the full benefits. It just wouldn't work.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's kind of the idea.

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<v Speaker 1>The fact that, you know, what draws me into this

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<v Speaker 1>is the idea that it is truly a blockchain API gateway.

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<v Speaker 1>So this sets above other chains. What they call many

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<v Speaker 1>people will call to is layer two point five. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's kind of unique because being blockchain agnostic, which means

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<v Speaker 1>this is non invasive interoperability, which is unlike a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of cross chain bridges that we have right now, that's

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<v Speaker 1>the other thing that is kind of unique. Overledger doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>really require ununderlying blockchain to change their code or anything

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<v Speaker 1>like that. It just sets on top right.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that's why it's called the overledger. Sometimes they call

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<v Speaker 2>it an overlay because it just overlays all the different blockchains, right,

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<v Speaker 2>and so you can pick the best like any blockchain.

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<v Speaker 2>And what's crazy with confusion is that anybody can bring

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<v Speaker 2>their own connector bring their own node and connect any blockching,

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<v Speaker 2>like you can connect anything, and we participate.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the reason this got my interest was because we

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<v Speaker 1>were working with a company because we do consulting with

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<v Speaker 1>some pretty major businesses out there, and they had an

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<v Speaker 1>exploit in a bridge. So obviously they got their white

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<v Speaker 1>hat and black hats together. They're trying to do some

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<v Speaker 1>forensic analysis on the hack. There was some assets that

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<v Speaker 1>were lost. But this idea of bridge free security pretty

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<v Speaker 1>much kind of won me over immediately because I saw, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a problem that's going to continue to happen

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<v Speaker 1>as actually if we go to scale. So the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that quant kind of deals with this up front is

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<v Speaker 1>pretty interesting. My question is how do they do it?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and and I didn't. I didn't prepare for that one. Really,

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's way technical. It took them years to build this.

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<v Speaker 2>They're they're removing them. Yeah, like God, knows how they

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<v Speaker 2>do it, but they completely remove the need for bridges.

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<v Speaker 2>Bridges are just not safe.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, remember guys, this this is a it's basically a

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<v Speaker 1>token wrapper, is what a lot of these smart contract

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<v Speaker 1>bridges are doing.

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<v Speaker 2>So so you have to you have to rely on

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<v Speaker 2>it on a third party or like a centralized party.

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<v Speaker 2>When you're using a bridge with quant, you don't. It

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<v Speaker 2>removes all of that. It's hyper decentralized. You're not relying

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<v Speaker 2>on bridges at all. It's it's level so Jesse.

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<v Speaker 1>When when you look at Quant and everybody, the first

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<v Speaker 1>thing I think a lot of people will look to

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<v Speaker 1>and say, oh, wait a minute. These guys are tied

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<v Speaker 1>in with central bank digital currencies. They're in the trad

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<v Speaker 1>five group, They're highly compliant, they've got some patent protections.

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<v Speaker 1>This looks like legacy. This looks like legacy finance. It

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't look like next gen finance. How would you argue

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<v Speaker 1>against that?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my goodness. So Gilbert Verdion literally created the the

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<v Speaker 2>ISOTC three zero seven in twenty fifteen. He created the

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<v Speaker 2>interoperability standard for blockching in twenty fifteen. You're talking eleven

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<v Speaker 2>years ago, before the industry even knew that we needed

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<v Speaker 2>interoperability for blockching to get the full adoption. And he

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<v Speaker 2>also understood that in order to get the interoperability, not

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<v Speaker 2>only did you have to set the standard, not only

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<v Speaker 2>did you need interoperability, but you also needed to set

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<v Speaker 2>the standard at an ISO level. You understand that too,

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<v Speaker 2>And he did this in twenty fifteen. And this is

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<v Speaker 2>interoperability standard for blockching. This is not you know, this

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<v Speaker 2>is not legacy stuff, right, And then they went on

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<v Speaker 2>to create the technology quant Overlager that meant that meets

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<v Speaker 2>standards then and did every single angle. And they've been

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<v Speaker 2>building now quant Overledger in certain steps because this is

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<v Speaker 2>providing the true interoperability solution for commercial banks, central banks,

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<v Speaker 2>and the major corporations in the world. So this has

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<v Speaker 2>to be secure. This is why it took them so

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<v Speaker 2>many years, and they had to do they had to

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<v Speaker 2>do it in certain steps. They created the firewalls, then

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<v Speaker 2>quant Fusion two point five and the roll ups and

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<v Speaker 2>so on. So this is why they've been following a

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<v Speaker 2>certain sequence. But and that I'm just scraping a surface there.

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<v Speaker 2>They also created the Secure Asset Transfer Protocol, which is

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<v Speaker 2>literally the re architecturing of the Internet with the IITF,

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<v Speaker 2>the Internet Engineering Task Force and MIT. They are responsible

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<v Speaker 2>for the last thirty years of the Internet we have today.

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<v Speaker 2>Gilbert Greening approached them like three years ago and said,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we need to create a new protocol for

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<v Speaker 2>moving value over the Internet, because he understood this twenty

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<v Speaker 2>years ago. This is where his industry comes from. He's

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<v Speaker 2>one of the top subersecurity experts in the world. He

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<v Speaker 2>was literally hit up cybersecurity for the UK Treasury, literally

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<v Speaker 2>protecting the He was a buyer for RTG assystems for governments.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, the guy is unreal. But he approached sorry

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<v Speaker 2>MT the IF said we need to create a new

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<v Speaker 2>protocol for the Internet because it was never meant to

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<v Speaker 2>move value and they said, yeah, of course, because he's

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<v Speaker 2>the goat. And literally they started working on this three

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<v Speaker 2>years ago. And quant it's literally I think it's Martin

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<v Speaker 2>Hargreaves that wrote the paper for the open It used

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<v Speaker 2>to be called Open Digital Asset Protocol. Now they called

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<v Speaker 2>it Secure Asset Transfer Protocol. And it's literally Quants team

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<v Speaker 2>that literally wrote the first draft for this protocol. And

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<v Speaker 2>I just want to explain to you a bit, Paul

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<v Speaker 2>about this about the IF a bit just for people

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<v Speaker 2>to understand the significance the Internet Engineering Task Force and MIT,

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<v Speaker 2>like I was saying, they're responsible for the Internet we

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<v Speaker 2>have today, like all the standards and the SMTP protocol

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<v Speaker 2>and the development and standardization of the Internet. They're the

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<v Speaker 2>ones who head that out. And when you look at

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<v Speaker 2>the IF, who's part of the IF, it's all like

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<v Speaker 2>the head technologies for IBM, Microsoft, a Censure, like all

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<v Speaker 2>the most powerful corporations and tech companies in the world

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<v Speaker 2>are all part of the ITF. Well, their head guys

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<v Speaker 2>are for technology to put their input on the development

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<v Speaker 2>advancement of the Internet, because I mean, this is the Internet,

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<v Speaker 2>this has to be done right. Well. Quant literally Quant

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<v Speaker 2>is literally sharing the SATP. So literally Quant is above

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<v Speaker 2>all these people. And I forgot to mention the CIA,

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<v Speaker 2>the NSA, I mean, they're all part of the IITF

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<v Speaker 2>and Quan is literally the ones writing the draft for

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<v Speaker 2>the IF Secure Asset Transfer Protocol. And Claire she's another

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<v Speaker 2>employee of Quant. I think she's the manager of product Development.

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<v Speaker 2>She's literally co chair of the Secure Asset Transfer Protocol.

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<v Speaker 2>So literally Quant is guiding the re architecturing of the Internet,

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<v Speaker 2>which will allow digital assets to move from one network

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<v Speaker 2>It's one of the only compliant gateways for this new

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<v Speaker 1>Kind of like a Swift without Swift And oh.

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<v Speaker 2>My goodness, this is so next level. Once you start

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<v Speaker 1>This some this was just to kind of touch on

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<v Speaker 1>right here. So this is HSBC Barclay stand tender. This

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<v Speaker 1>for this framework, which is going to be operational in

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, it gets beta, Paul, it gets here, right, It's here.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you look at the secure ASCID transfertal CAOL,

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<v Speaker 2>sandbox environment. So right now, if you look at Project Rosalin,

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<v Speaker 2>were Quant confirmed, and this was headed by the BIS

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<v Speaker 2>Innovation Hub. Right the central banks are all central banks.

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<v Speaker 2>Quant admitted this was made public by the BIS and

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<v Speaker 2>by Quant. That literally Quant was the infrastructure layer for

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<v Speaker 2>Project Rosalin, which allowed corporations and FinTechs and governments to

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<v Speaker 2>creating custom APIs. Now Quant in the last three days

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<v Speaker 2>has become very bold and they're list just literally plainly

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<v Speaker 2>Is literally you're saying. Because just recently they put out

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<v Speaker 2>six is when the infrastructure was being determined, and the

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<v Speaker 2>which is all the XRP. Later but they they go

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<v Speaker 2>Central bankers have decided the model. The first layer is

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<v Speaker 2>explain in the article that quant is that horizontal layer.

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<v Speaker 2>So literally Gilbert Verdian and he said, like this has

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<v Speaker 2>can see that by this project, in that project, in

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<v Speaker 2>Is they're literally just saying straight it up right now, it's.

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<v Speaker 1>It's unleaded projecting right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and that's seven central banks. But project see this.

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<v Speaker 2>This is where it gets even crazier. Gilbert Vernion admitted.

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<v Speaker 2>When he was talking about the Regulated Library Network, he said,

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<v Speaker 2>and this is right on Quan's website. He said, we

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<v Speaker 2>three who's bringing over the shared ledger where all the

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<v Speaker 2>tokenized assets will reside. The shared Ledger is the XRP Lager.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is what I cracked the code on. And

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people don't know that because I only

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<v Speaker 2>started my channel last year. But the Shared Ledger, the

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<v Speaker 2>Regular Library Network, the Unified Lager, the f Internet, Financial Internet,

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<v Speaker 2>it's all the XRP Lager. The regularly Libly Network used

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<v Speaker 2>changed the name real quick because everybody knows that Ripple

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<v Speaker 2>is building the Internet Value. But Gilbert Vernion admitted many times,

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<v Speaker 2>for the Regulated Lively Network, technically the Internet Value, because

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<v Speaker 2>deep dives that it's all the same thing like I said,

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<v Speaker 2>the Unified Leader, Shared Leader a regularly Liby network and

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<v Speaker 2>the Internet. They save Internet for financial Internet instead of

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<v Speaker 2>saying Internet value. So when Gilbert Verdion is saying, like

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<v Speaker 2>all the CBDCs, the majority of the CDCs are being

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<v Speaker 2>built on private versions of the public XRP laser, this

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<v Speaker 2>is right on Ripple's website. Yeah, this is this is

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<v Speaker 2>people are not getting it. But so when guilt so

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<v Speaker 2>the private CDCs, the CBDCs are being built on private

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<v Speaker 2>versions of the public XRP lager, right, and the interlayer

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<v Speaker 2>protocol Connects allows the public XRP lager to be the

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<v Speaker 1>That gets into their Fusion roll up, which is essentially

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<v Speaker 1>where they're rolling into that mean that's their twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 1>guess their latest milestone, which is the main net launch

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<v Speaker 1>of the Fusion roll up. This is going to unify

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so and he said, and he in Twitter he

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<v Speaker 2>he said, we provide so in one interview on their website,

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<v Speaker 2>But we partner with our three who bring over the

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<v Speaker 2>shared Laser, which is the same thing that's the Internet value,

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<v Speaker 2>that's the x CRPU lasuer. But now on Twitter, he said,

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<v Speaker 2>roll up for the institutional Internet value. Right, Gilbert Verdion

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<v Speaker 2>Gilbert Vernion has said at least ten fifteen times we

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<v Speaker 2>the programmability for the institutional Internet value. For their regulated

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<v Speaker 1>You've probably heard me ment Uphold before, and there's a

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<v Speaker 1>real world. This has not been done before. Their Uphold

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<v Speaker 1>all while earning four percent back in XRP on every purchase.

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<v Speaker 1>Download the Uphold app for more and get started. Why

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<v Speaker 1>would there be somewhat of a transparency gap? Because if

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<v Speaker 1>you look at Quanta working directly with these private banks,

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<v Speaker 1>government institutions, you know these are this is the kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a lack of visibility in terms of the adoption metrics.

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<v Speaker 1>Why do you think that that is? Because I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's a pushback that some people have said about this,

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<v Speaker 2>Oh percent. The same reason for why they gave five

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<v Speaker 2>different names for the for the XRP lager you know Ledger,

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<v Speaker 2>Shared Ledger concept, regularly, Levy Network, so on and so forth,

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Okay, Well, let me ask you what about the

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<v Speaker 1>centralization risk, because this, of course is another concern. It's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like what we're dealing with with Swift right now.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's over over centralization of money movement. And if

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<v Speaker 1>you look at quant network, I think they own the

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<v Speaker 1>proprietary software. So if if the cent if the central

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<v Speaker 1>enterprise ceased to operate, what would be the long term

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<v Speaker 2>Yah, how was that very good? That's a very good question.

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<v Speaker 2>What I understood from quant is from Gilbert Verdian is

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<v Speaker 2>that they just patented some of the core, but everything

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<v Speaker 2>else is on GitHub and open source.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, every things.

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<v Speaker 2>They pantented, which it's way above my pay grade, but

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<v Speaker 2>they patented a few things at the core, but everything

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<v Speaker 2>explain that quant Overlager, Well, the Confusion roll up is

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<v Speaker 2>actually going this is technically going to be hyper decentralized

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<v Speaker 2>because everybody because he was asked about that centralization and

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<v Speaker 2>he said, we're actually hyper decentralized. This was a few

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<v Speaker 2>years ago in an interview. But we're going to that

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<v Speaker 2>hyper decentralization now with the count Fusion roll up. Because

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<v Speaker 2>the reason that is is because any individual, corporation, anybody

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<v Speaker 2>it actually becomes more decentralized than regular DeFi because it's

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<v Speaker 2>decentralization for everything, like everybody can participate and bring their

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<v Speaker 2>own notes and connect bring their own connectors, bring their

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<v Speaker 2>own notes for any blockchain, whether it's permission permissionless, private, public,

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<v Speaker 2>any any blockchain can connect. As long as you follow

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<v Speaker 2>the specs, you connect. And that's why people have no

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<v Speaker 2>clue what's coming with count fusion, because this is it

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<v Speaker 2>What they just announced right now, it's a This could be.

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<v Speaker 1>A big, big advantage for them. I mean because you

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<v Speaker 1>you look at Cosmos or Polka Dot, you know those

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<v Speaker 1>I think Cosmos has what is it called IBC interbank

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<v Speaker 1>or inter blockchain communication. Then you got chain Link, which is,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the oracle side of it, which used a

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<v Speaker 1>decentralization of networks that are using independent note operators, so

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<v Speaker 1>that that's a competitor, I would say, But quant doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's different.

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<v Speaker 1>Though.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's different and think that's what the chainlan

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<v Speaker 2>community doesn't understand is because my understanding is, and I

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<v Speaker 2>know that they've come up with some other stuff where

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<v Speaker 2>you know, yeah, but it's mainly an oracle network my understanding,

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<v Speaker 1>Bring your breath and QUANT can scale. That's the advantage. Well, well, sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe within the next eighteen months. Well, sorry, interconnection, that

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<v Speaker 2>Well, they made it very clear their interoperability between AI

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<v Speaker 2>Quant Overlager is interoperability for any any to any so

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<v Speaker 2>AI blockchains, legacy systems, any software, databases, imaging. But I

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<v Speaker 2>quant The difference between Quant and chain link And there

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<v Speaker 2>are many, but Quant is connecting the legacy systems to

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<v Speaker 2>blockchain and allowing them to build multichain applications, picking the

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<v Speaker 2>best features of blog each blockchain. This is not the

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<v Speaker 2>bridging the data my understanding, allowing the data of the

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<v Speaker 2>real world to come to the blockchain so that the

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<v Speaker 2>smart contracts know when to execute. But Quant is completely

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<v Speaker 2>different because again it's it's kind of thing those like

419
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<v Speaker 2>Quan will overly on top of chain link, NXR be

420
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<v Speaker 2>an etherium. Yeah, whatever you want from chain link, use

421
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<v Speaker 2>whatever you want from chine link, whatever you want from etherium. Right,

422
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<v Speaker 2>So so yeah, so it's not the same as Jessie.

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<v Speaker 1>Why do you think that we don't see? Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean because you're already you're already talking about central banks

425
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<v Speaker 1>that are essentially going to be utilizing this kind of technology.

426
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<v Speaker 1>Commercial banks, even global supply chains would probably come into this.

427
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<v Speaker 1>Now you're dealing with, you know, the whole idea of

428
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<v Speaker 1>you know, what is I would say is regulatory alignment

429
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<v Speaker 1>because it's essentially laying on top of that this is patented,

430
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<v Speaker 1>it's proprietary. Why wouldn't the US government work with this

431
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<v Speaker 1>in correlation to essentially utilize this for interconnectivity across all blockchains,

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<v Speaker 1>across a global footprint of what finance is going to be.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think there are I think they're working definitely

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<v Speaker 2>with it. Because Gilbert Veren made a statement the other day.

435
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<v Speaker 2>He's like, programmable ural, programmable pound, yeah, check mark, check mark,

436
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<v Speaker 2>and then he said programmable US the dollar question mark.

437
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<v Speaker 2>So he's literally saying because when when Gilbert Verdin when

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<v Speaker 2>they say we provide the programmability for money, because they

439
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<v Speaker 2>have like new programmable money. This literally is for all

440
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<v Speaker 2>the money, for all the CBDCs, for all of it.

441
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<v Speaker 2>And that's why he can safely say we provide the

442
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<v Speaker 2>programmability for the Internet value, for the regulated Internet value, yeah,

443
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<v Speaker 2>which which is technically all the CBDCs, all the money. Yeah,

444
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<v Speaker 2>it's it's it's it's huge.

445
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<v Speaker 1>Like, I'm surprised the token hasn't started to move because

446
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<v Speaker 1>I know the token has a very strict hardcap supply.

447
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<v Speaker 1>What is it like fourteen and a half million or so.

448
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<v Speaker 2>Less less than bitcoin two thirds of bitcoin.

449
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<v Speaker 1>Four Yeah, so basically already all of it in circulation.

450
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<v Speaker 1>So why wouldn't especially if you look at a fiat

451
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<v Speaker 1>to crypto SaaS basically is what you're talking about, it's

452
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<v Speaker 1>a fiat to crypto software as a service, this would

453
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<v Speaker 1>seem as though it would have heavy the activity right now,

454
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<v Speaker 1>especially as we start to see tokenization really going mainstream.

455
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<v Speaker 1>Now you've got I don't know if clarity is going

456
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<v Speaker 1>to go through or not, but the point is I

457
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<v Speaker 1>don't think this needs clarity at all. Where XRP I

458
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<v Speaker 1>feel like does need or Ripple does need clarity to

459
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<v Speaker 1>start to really do some things unique here in the

460
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<v Speaker 1>United States.

461
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<v Speaker 2>So maybe the United States. But one thing about Ripple

462
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<v Speaker 2>is that ripple net has been always fully compliant, a

463
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<v Speaker 2>KYC compliant AML complying to have a global rule book

464
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<v Speaker 2>that we're seeing in project the go rap project Mbridge,

465
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<v Speaker 2>Libily networks this rule book that the DTCC, Donald Donnie

466
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<v Speaker 2>who helped them to create the rule book, Oh my goodness,

467
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<v Speaker 2>the Global Payment Steering Group was literally a chairman was

468
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<v Speaker 2>Donald Donna Hue. We talked about that, me and you.

469
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<v Speaker 2>He was the chairman of the DTCC. He was the

470
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<v Speaker 2>CEO and president of the DTCC, went and became chairman

471
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<v Speaker 2>of the Global Payment Steering Group and they created which

472
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<v Speaker 2>Ripple founded. So imagine that the former CEO of the

473
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<v Speaker 2>DTCC literally creates the Global Payment Steering Group is to

474
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<v Speaker 2>chair them in from day one with Ripple. Ripple founded

475
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<v Speaker 2>its group and they agreed the global rule book which

476
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<v Speaker 2>Ripple has. So ripple net is very, very compliant. That's

477
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<v Speaker 2>what I've been telling the community. Listen when they were

478
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<v Speaker 2>saying like they're worried about this and that, and lawsuit

479
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<v Speaker 2>is all bs in my opinion, But you're right that

480
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<v Speaker 2>I think in the US it will help adoption, and

481
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<v Speaker 2>there's you know, there's definitely some benefits there. But Ripple

482
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<v Speaker 2>has got a lot of things under the sleeve that

483
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<v Speaker 2>I think people are not realizing, especially Ripple Nett being

484
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<v Speaker 2>fully compliant, you.

485
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<v Speaker 1>Know, with with already integration into cbdc's globally because there's

486
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<v Speaker 1>so many countries that are developing them. Then you have

487
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<v Speaker 1>commercial applications, why not why not see that integrated into

488
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<v Speaker 1>the US, especially as we if in fact we do

489
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<v Speaker 1>get clarity, a lot of this could start to open

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<v Speaker 1>up on a regulatory framework for not only companies but governments.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh absolutely, and sorry, I remember now what you asked

492
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<v Speaker 2>is about the price. Why didn't we you know, the right?

493
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<v Speaker 1>How is it moving? Yeah?

494
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<v Speaker 2>I think because that's why I did some deep dies

495
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<v Speaker 2>on that. I think it's because everything's being built in sandboxes.

496
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<v Speaker 2>That's what I understood from Quant because Quant is very

497
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<v Speaker 2>specific that you don't need to pay for the quant

498
00:27:03.440 --> 00:27:06.640
<v Speaker 2>license yet, which we'll use Q and T, and also

499
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<v Speaker 2>to validate the transactions as well in the network, you

500
00:27:09.400 --> 00:27:11.759
<v Speaker 2>don't have to pay that until you go live. So

501
00:27:11.880 --> 00:27:15.039
<v Speaker 2>all of the commercial banks, enterprises, governments. They're all building

502
00:27:15.079 --> 00:27:17.920
<v Speaker 2>solutions right now what we call m DAPs within the

503
00:27:18.039 --> 00:27:21.440
<v Speaker 2>sandbox environment, but when they go live with their application,

504
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<v Speaker 2>then they'll have to pay for the QUANT license. And

505
00:27:24.039 --> 00:27:27.839
<v Speaker 2>so they've been working when these sandbox environments now like

506
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<v Speaker 2>three or four years.

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder I got to get a QUANT developer on

508
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<v Speaker 1>because I wonder if if m dabs are operating on

509
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<v Speaker 1>essentially an abstraction layer above the chains.

510
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<v Speaker 2>That's what it is, very complex restruction.

511
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<v Speaker 1>Why wouldn't this start to work in other areas that

512
00:27:45.880 --> 00:27:48.599
<v Speaker 1>where blockchain is starting to be incorporated, because you could

513
00:27:48.640 --> 00:27:52.319
<v Speaker 1>have developers basically isolate different tasks and send them to

514
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<v Speaker 1>the blockchain best suited for the job, like an AI

515
00:27:56.079 --> 00:28:00.000
<v Speaker 1>developer would do, because that's exactly what it's doing now.

516
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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if you guys are vibe coding out there,

517
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<v Speaker 1>you understand the utilization of tools that these AI bots

518
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<v Speaker 1>are doing. So I'm just wondering because you could essentially

519
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<v Speaker 1>execuse smart contracts on ethereum for complex business elements. You

520
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<v Speaker 1>could settle payments on bank control you know ledgers like

521
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<v Speaker 1>quorda Okay or a CBDC, and then you could anchor

522
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<v Speaker 1>things like data logues, which is proof of delivery like

523
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<v Speaker 1>on bitcoin, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>So huh, well, well, they've put out some serious statements

525
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<v Speaker 2>about where they're going with AI with quant and unfortunately

526
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<v Speaker 2>I didn't read them this morning. It's been a while,

527
00:28:38.039 --> 00:28:41.160
<v Speaker 2>so I can't really quote them. But quant is literally there. Again.

528
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<v Speaker 2>They're connecting the AI world with blockchain, with the legacy and.

529
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<v Speaker 1>Here here's a killer app that you have to think about.

530
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<v Speaker 1>I'm just thinking through this as a developer, you know,

531
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<v Speaker 1>is there's no single point of failure. That's huge and

532
00:28:59.160 --> 00:29:01.279
<v Speaker 1>this is like on one thing that every dav is

533
00:29:01.319 --> 00:29:03.559
<v Speaker 1>trying to build, is no single point of failure.

534
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it's future proof too because again being one

535
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<v Speaker 2>of the top cybersecurity experts in the world, being responsible

536
00:29:09.599 --> 00:29:12.119
<v Speaker 2>for the security of nations, because he explains that listen,

537
00:29:12.519 --> 00:29:16.039
<v Speaker 2>these central banks have what are called critical national infrastructure.

538
00:29:16.240 --> 00:29:17.720
<v Speaker 2>You can't shut it down, and you're going to make

539
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<v Speaker 2>sure that whenever it's using there's no mess up here

540
00:29:20.640 --> 00:29:24.160
<v Speaker 2>like this is critical national infrastructure. So he understood him

541
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<v Speaker 2>and his team that you need to build an operating

542
00:29:25.880 --> 00:29:28.480
<v Speaker 2>system and it needed to be done a very very

543
00:29:28.519 --> 00:29:33.039
<v Speaker 2>specific way because he understood that the Internet was never

544
00:29:33.039 --> 00:29:35.720
<v Speaker 2>made to move money as well, so it's future proof

545
00:29:35.759 --> 00:29:38.039
<v Speaker 2>as well any future blockchain. That's what he explained. And

546
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<v Speaker 2>when they did the ICO, he said to the community,

547
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<v Speaker 2>he said, listen, what can you do with it? We

548
00:29:42.319 --> 00:29:44.599
<v Speaker 2>don't know. That's where we're asking you to build on

549
00:29:44.680 --> 00:29:47.400
<v Speaker 2>it because it's almost like unlimited use cases if you

550
00:29:47.440 --> 00:29:50.400
<v Speaker 2>think about it. If you can connect any legacy system,

551
00:29:50.680 --> 00:29:54.839
<v Speaker 2>any blockchain, any AI solution, any to any API anything, yeah,

552
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<v Speaker 2>any software databases, CRMs and like if you look at

553
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<v Speaker 2>sorry what is called zapier, Zapier and all of those

554
00:30:02.720 --> 00:30:06.319
<v Speaker 2>quant automatically connects to every five thousand app on Zapier.

555
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<v Speaker 1>And make dot com wow.

556
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<v Speaker 2>And so it's any to any That's why he said

557
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<v Speaker 2>that we don't know what you can build like. It's imagine,

558
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<v Speaker 2>it's the it's the he said. We are the Microsoft Windows.

559
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<v Speaker 2>If you think about it, we're like Microsoft Windows with

560
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<v Speaker 2>a router on top. Microsoft Windows. What what what allowed

561
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<v Speaker 2>us to go from the Second Industrial Age, from the

562
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<v Speaker 2>manufacturing age to the Third Industrial Age or the Third

563
00:30:26.960 --> 00:30:29.759
<v Speaker 2>Industrial Revolution, which was the information age. It was it

564
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<v Speaker 2>was the operating system that did that. It allowed interoperability

565
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<v Speaker 2>in their computer. I guess and and with the the

566
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<v Speaker 2>Internet whatever, it allows us to just press a button, boom,

567
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<v Speaker 2>we're in the Internet world. But without Microsoft Windows, it

568
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<v Speaker 2>never would happen. So Gilbert Verdian, that's what he did.

569
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<v Speaker 2>He created kind of the same concept with a router

570
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<v Speaker 2>on top because he understands the architecture of the Internet.

571
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<v Speaker 2>He understands because that's where his industry comes from, being

572
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<v Speaker 2>one of the top cybersecurity experts in the world. His

573
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<v Speaker 2>industry comes he explains in his I c O that

574
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<v Speaker 2>his industry comes from the Internet originally being built for

575
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<v Speaker 2>not to move money. That's that's why I like, originally

576
00:31:06.839 --> 00:31:08.799
<v Speaker 2>the Internet was supposed to be a protocol we communicate. They

577
00:31:08.839 --> 00:31:10.319
<v Speaker 2>never taught that we were going to build all these

578
00:31:10.319 --> 00:31:13.920
<v Speaker 2>different use cases and piled like money and different things

579
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<v Speaker 2>on the Internet. So that's where his industry comes from.

580
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<v Speaker 2>Because so I'm not explaining it well, but literally they

581
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<v Speaker 2>had to security Internet because it was never meant to

582
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<v Speaker 2>do everything we're doing on it. And that's where yeah,

583
00:31:25.640 --> 00:31:27.799
<v Speaker 2>his profession comes from. So you understood that.

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<v Speaker 1>I said on a on a CTO advisory group that

585
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<v Speaker 1>works with a bunch of these different tech companies and

586
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<v Speaker 1>mostly its developers and chief technology officers that are mainly

587
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<v Speaker 1>in I won't say Fortune five hundred, maybe Fortune twenty

588
00:31:45.119 --> 00:31:49.519
<v Speaker 1>five hundred companies. And one thing that came up recently

589
00:31:50.119 --> 00:31:52.759
<v Speaker 1>was this whole idea of the quantum threat, and I

590
00:31:52.799 --> 00:31:57.880
<v Speaker 1>thought this was interesting. What we derived was that essentially

591
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<v Speaker 1>the entire digital economy that we're running on today, which

592
00:32:00.960 --> 00:32:04.519
<v Speaker 1>is including blockchain, bitcoin of theorem, it doesn't matter all

593
00:32:04.599 --> 00:32:10.640
<v Speaker 1>these rely on asymmetric cryptography. Okay. Because of that, what

594
00:32:10.680 --> 00:32:14.079
<v Speaker 1>you're dealing with is the bad guys are out there

595
00:32:14.119 --> 00:32:19.200
<v Speaker 1>harvesting now to decrypt later. So when quantum does arrive,

596
00:32:19.400 --> 00:32:24.880
<v Speaker 1>they've got the harvested data and essentially developing a quantum

597
00:32:24.960 --> 00:32:30.480
<v Speaker 1>threat where they would be basically decrypting it retrospectively, you know,

598
00:32:30.680 --> 00:32:33.839
<v Speaker 1>in essence. So that's a major concern to me, especially

599
00:32:33.880 --> 00:32:36.160
<v Speaker 1>if you look at the blockchain nightmare that seems to

600
00:32:36.200 --> 00:32:39.759
<v Speaker 1>be brewing right now. When it comes to quantum risks

601
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<v Speaker 1>as a whole, how would quant solve or eliminate some

602
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<v Speaker 1>of this?

603
00:32:44.480 --> 00:32:46.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think I just I don't know, but I

604
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<v Speaker 2>do remember, if I'm not mistaken, I do remember Gilbert

605
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<v Speaker 2>Verdi and explaining that I think he said it has

606
00:32:52.720 --> 00:32:56.799
<v Speaker 2>been solved, that they have solved it, I think, okay,

607
00:32:56.799 --> 00:32:59.240
<v Speaker 2>but I'm not sure about that, but yeah, well there.

608
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<v Speaker 1>I think one thing I read was that their counter

609
00:33:02.160 --> 00:33:09.720
<v Speaker 1>strategy was what they called crypto agility or something where essentially,

610
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<v Speaker 1>because it's an over ledger, it's like an API operating

611
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<v Speaker 1>on you know, two.

612
00:33:14.240 --> 00:33:16.880
<v Speaker 2>Points exactly, API eight weight, that's what it is. Ye.

613
00:33:18.240 --> 00:33:24.680
<v Speaker 1>So this would essentially allow that to model around a

614
00:33:24.759 --> 00:33:29.519
<v Speaker 1>quantum risk. So instead of waiting for individual blockchains to

615
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<v Speaker 1>upgrade their core consensus, quant would basically be able to

616
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<v Speaker 1>go in and flex around that. So interesting, man, I

617
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<v Speaker 1>wonder if they have this locked down and they just

618
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<v Speaker 1>haven't released the information yet.

619
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<v Speaker 2>It's possible. They have quantinit, they have quant fusion, they

620
00:33:46.079 --> 00:33:48.839
<v Speaker 2>have quant like it's and the solutions they're building too

621
00:33:48.880 --> 00:33:52.559
<v Speaker 2>are not these small solutions like this is like literally

622
00:33:52.640 --> 00:33:56.079
<v Speaker 2>infrastructure for nations. This is infrastructure for money. They were

623
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<v Speaker 2>the first one to create a language, a programming language

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<v Speaker 2>for money. Yeah, I can't remember what's the name of it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's leaving my mind right now, but a programmable language

626
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<v Speaker 2>for money. And so you're programming money like we quant

627
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<v Speaker 2>You ear lader saying if this and this and this happens.

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<v Speaker 2>Damn you know, send a thousand dollars to my daughter

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<v Speaker 2>buy two hundred dollars worth of disktock one hundred thousand

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<v Speaker 2>dollars here Like you're programming money. You're programming logic, which

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<v Speaker 2>is not good at the end of the day for CBDCs.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry to tell you because I know you're you

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<v Speaker 2>don't like it more than I do when it comes

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<v Speaker 2>to those program CBDCs. But yeah, it's what do.

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<v Speaker 1>You think about that statement though? For you know, for QDA,

636
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<v Speaker 1>is the crypto agility statement that I heard or watch

637
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<v Speaker 1>them talk about, Because if you think about that, then

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<v Speaker 1>essentially an API operating system could handle a lot of

639
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<v Speaker 1>these upgrades faster so as Ether or any any blockchain

640
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<v Speaker 1>out there, traditional blockchain starts to make upgrades, You've got

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<v Speaker 1>the ability to handle that upgrade much faster as more

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<v Speaker 1>of an API layer. So if if a company were

643
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<v Speaker 1>using quants over Ledger to send them, say, send quantum

644
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<v Speaker 1>safe instructions, but the destination blockchain itself is still using legacy,

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<v Speaker 1>then you know, that's the question. Maybe that's where quant

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<v Speaker 1>would be protecting the end use against you know, quantum,

647
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<v Speaker 1>which is kind of like the bridge component that we're

648
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<v Speaker 1>dealing with right now, where bridges are very risky. So, man,

649
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<v Speaker 1>this is a lot, a lot of stuff. What would

650
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<v Speaker 1>you say if as far as adoption, you know, when

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<v Speaker 1>you look at adoption curves that are happening, I think

652
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<v Speaker 1>right now in the US until they get clarity or

653
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<v Speaker 1>whether we get it or we don't get it. The

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<v Speaker 1>point is is that you have to have some vision.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you been watching what's going on in Japan?

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<v Speaker 2>No? Not so.

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<v Speaker 1>Essentially they put r l USD is essentially you can

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<v Speaker 1>utilize is it inside the ecosystem? There? They basically green

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<v Speaker 1>lit R l ust and.

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<v Speaker 2>As a state everywhere, So you're going to do it everywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So that's huge, And maybe what we end up

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<v Speaker 1>with here is a new emerging region in the world

663
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<v Speaker 1>that is way ahead, much like what the US was

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<v Speaker 1>when Wall Street and Silicon Valley were launched. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it was an emerging because unfortunately, I'm wondering if the

666
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<v Speaker 1>US is going to actually fall behind on all of this.

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<v Speaker 2>They need to get this passed.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's advancing so quickly. They need to turn observers

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<v Speaker 1>of the technology.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, one hundred percent. They need to get this passed.

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<v Speaker 2>But don't you find an interesting paull How us DT is, obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>in my opinion, is a three letter agency operation. The

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<v Speaker 2>prop up bitcoined and prop up digital currencies, right, so

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<v Speaker 2>they print this out of kin air. They're literally printing

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<v Speaker 2>US dollars what you were doing. Nobody stopped them, right,

676
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<v Speaker 2>You can't do that unless your three letter agency. In

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<v Speaker 2>my opinion, they did this for years. It helped to

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<v Speaker 2>basically ramp up bitcoin, you know, made it very lucrative,

679
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<v Speaker 2>It made it very shiny object for crypto in general, right,

680
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<v Speaker 2>propped up the market with that, plus liquid and all

681
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<v Speaker 2>these other things too. But usd T was very instrumental

682
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<v Speaker 2>in that. Might if I'm not mistaken here, and then

683
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<v Speaker 2>now that Ripple is ready, they're starting to scale down

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<v Speaker 2>USDT everywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll starting Mika. Mika of course is locked it out. Yeah,

686
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<v Speaker 1>it is interesting and interesting timing, Is that what you mean? Yeah?

687
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<v Speaker 1>The timing I mean with Mika locking it out. Now

688
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<v Speaker 1>you've got Japan coming in and pushing r L USD,

689
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<v Speaker 1>which is a major trading part of the United States.

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<v Speaker 1>You have ripple right now on essentially the precipice of

691
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<v Speaker 1>because these next two weeks will decide how the US

692
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<v Speaker 1>is going to go forward. And unfortunately we are dealing

693
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<v Speaker 1>with some lawmakers up there by the name of Warren,

694
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<v Speaker 1>uh that just cannot let this go. I still think

695
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<v Speaker 1>there might be an opportunity here where housing bill is

696
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<v Speaker 1>held hostage for the Clarity Act. Have you followed this

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<v Speaker 1>a bit, I mean from you she Warren wants this

698
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<v Speaker 1>housing bill to essentially secure. The Housing Bill in a nutshell,

699
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<v Speaker 1>just is not allowing major corporations to buy up single

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<v Speaker 1>family homes, okay, So, which is what a lot of

701
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<v Speaker 1>these major corporations have been doing. They've been sucking up

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<v Speaker 1>these single family homes in these depressed markets, and it's

703
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<v Speaker 1>getting ready to get worse. So the housing bill Trump

704
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<v Speaker 1>puts on hold because many people would say, all right,

705
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<v Speaker 1>Trump's protecting his buddies who are over there doing real

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<v Speaker 1>estate acquisitions. If he says, well, listen, I'll give you

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<v Speaker 1>the Housing Bill if in fact, you give me the

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<v Speaker 1>Clarity Act. So I think there's a little bit of trading,

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<v Speaker 1>even though he's got a very short window to get

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<v Speaker 1>that done, because otherwise I think they push this housing

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<v Speaker 1>bill through as soon as the Democrats take control of

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<v Speaker 1>the Senate, which could happen in you know, the fall.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's it's it's these people you mentioned, like this,

714
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<v Speaker 2>this girl and I'm not gonna call her lady, but

715
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<v Speaker 2>it's unbelievable. How is it that these if this would

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<v Speaker 2>have happened years ago, we would have had these type

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<v Speaker 2>of people in government, I mean people would have like

718
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<v Speaker 2>people would have burned down the cities in the country.

719
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<v Speaker 2>Like the stuff that we're allowing these evil puppets to do.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's unbelievable. Like, oh, it's unbelievable what she's what

721
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<v Speaker 2>she's done. Like if you look at everything she's done,

722
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<v Speaker 2>anything good, anything that's good for the public, anything she

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<v Speaker 2>she's fought out, all their policies, her and all the

724
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<v Speaker 2>other ones like her. It's unbelievable what they're doing to

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<v Speaker 2>the country. It's absolutely unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, in the I think you have to understand, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>that we are we are in a very interesting point

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<v Speaker 1>right now in American history, and it is a time

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<v Speaker 1>in which either we will look back and say this

730
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<v Speaker 1>was when America continued its powerhouse or juggernaut, or it

731
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<v Speaker 1>was the period in which the US let it slip

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<v Speaker 1>through their hands. Because they essentially have the possibility. We

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<v Speaker 1>have the possibility to do that.

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<v Speaker 2>So well, if you look at all the previous administration,

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<v Speaker 2>the last two three administrations. Listen, I know people don't

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<v Speaker 2>like talking with politics sometimes, and you know, you say

737
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<v Speaker 2>something and they think you're all crazy and oh, but

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<v Speaker 2>if you look at if people really look at the

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<v Speaker 2>policies of the last two or three administration, what they

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<v Speaker 2>did to the country is unbelievable. It's unheard of. In

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<v Speaker 2>my opinion. There was a goal to just destroy destroy America,

742
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<v Speaker 2>and that's what Trump is trying to do. He's trying

743
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<v Speaker 2>to save it. And but he's got you know, he

744
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<v Speaker 2>didn't realize how deep the swamp was. I think maybe

745
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<v Speaker 2>he knew. But when you say we're going to clean

746
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<v Speaker 2>the swamp, the swamp is pretty deep. The researching guy

747
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<v Speaker 2>and it's deep, very.

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<v Speaker 1>Deep, very very deep. Well, I mean, if you, if

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<v Speaker 1>you guys want to go read a book, there is

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<v Speaker 1>one that I have for you that will explain what

751
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<v Speaker 1>Jesse just said. And it's a book called Family of Secrets. Okay,

752
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<v Speaker 1>this is about the Bush dynasty and the invisible government

753
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<v Speaker 1>that's been hidden from history about over the last fifty years.

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<v Speaker 1>So go read that book. You'll see it. You'll find

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<v Speaker 1>it on Amazon. No, no link in the description, but no,

756
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<v Speaker 1>Russ Baker is the author. It's a great book. I

757
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<v Speaker 1>just finished reading it about a month ago. I have

758
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<v Speaker 1>some good books. I got to get start putting those out,

759
00:41:26.480 --> 00:41:28.599
<v Speaker 1>because when I put out a book recommendation, I'm gonna

760
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<v Speaker 1>tweet it. Today. I put out book recommendations and people

761
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<v Speaker 1>always are like, man, I've never seen this book, you know.

762
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<v Speaker 1>So it's like, what is the Diary of the Economic

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<v Speaker 1>hit Man? The original version?

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<v Speaker 2>If you want your channel down? But yeah, Fishings of

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<v Speaker 2>an Economic hit name.

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<v Speaker 1>That one, yes, all right, the first edition? Not they

767
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<v Speaker 1>don't even you can't even get it anymore. It's like

768
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<v Speaker 1>black market. You have to find it used John Perkins.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and the other one. I would recommend it. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think he wrote a book, but this one. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't even know if I should say it. But if

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<v Speaker 2>your channels get shut down, I do apologize in advance.

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<v Speaker 1>Easy, Okay, don't say it. Don't say it, we'll put it. Well.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, okay, you know like a ship, you know, a boat,

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<v Speaker 2>a ship with three guns. Okay, So first name is Kevin,

776
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<v Speaker 2>last name is like a ship, you know, if you're

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<v Speaker 2>in a boat. Yeah, there you got two piece? All right, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>yeah go check guy out.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm looking at my collection of what would be probably

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<v Speaker 1>illegal books in about twenty years.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, well it's yeah for sure. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>in twenty years, if you want that book, you gotta

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<v Speaker 2>get a you gotta get a chip in your hand.

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<v Speaker 2>Not twenty years.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry, no, well it maybe faster than that.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, But Kevin shipped my friend with two piece. He

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<v Speaker 2>used to work for a three letter agency. He held

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<v Speaker 2>the highest positions, all the highest positions literally majority of

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<v Speaker 2>how your highest positions within that agency and became a.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, hey, you've got a lot of news hitting the

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<v Speaker 1>market this week. We'll cover that with a ton of interviews.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to be covering Jesse. It's always fun doing

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<v Speaker 1>deep dives with you. Thank you so much for coming

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<v Speaker 1>in today.

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<v Speaker 2>We appreciate it. On it to be all, I really

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<v Speaker 2>appreciate it. I really pre that it is all over

797
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<v Speaker 2>the map. But when you're getting started on quantitix RP,

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<v Speaker 2>it's fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it interesting is Yeah, it's interesting to get into

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<v Speaker 1>this stuff because I think a lot of people don't

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<v Speaker 1>realize how close we are. The fortunate thing is, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I recognize it very easily because I've seen these times before,

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<v Speaker 1>when we were first edging into the birth of the

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<v Speaker 1>Internet and what Tim berners Lee was about to unleash

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<v Speaker 1>on the world. These are the same signs that I

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<v Speaker 1>saw then. I see now, same thing when mobile compute

807
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<v Speaker 1>started in two thousand and seven, when Apple, you know,

808
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<v Speaker 1>released their iPhone, and of course right after that social

809
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<v Speaker 1>media was launched. So a lot of unique timing here

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<v Speaker 1>for the finance sector. And I think there's some very

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<v Speaker 1>interesting companies, quap being one of them, that will be

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<v Speaker 1>at the front forefront of this. For sure.

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<v Speaker 2>It's absolutely huge. Politic could just add it's huge because

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<v Speaker 2>we are going into the fort Industrial Revolution. That's what

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<v Speaker 2>people don't realize. The Third Industrial Revolution was the information age,

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<v Speaker 2>which was just transformed the way society worked exactly. No,

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<v Speaker 2>but now we're going to the fort Industrial Age, which

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<v Speaker 2>is blogchain, AI and other things all combined, all basically

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<v Speaker 2>very powerful transformational technologies, but all complementary to another one

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<v Speaker 2>another at the same time. So the transformation we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to see in twenty thirty years, in next ten to fifteen,

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<v Speaker 2>twenty years is going to make the Internet look like

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<v Speaker 2>a joke. Yeah, I mark my words in that one.

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<v Speaker 2>Because the Internet didn't have the Internet to piggyback off

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<v Speaker 2>exactly right, that's why it's moving so fast.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and you're right, because you look at previous technology shifts.

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<v Speaker 1>The Internet was a was a magnitude of order of

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<v Speaker 1>magnitude in terms of growth and the era that it

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<v Speaker 1>placed prior to that. You know, many many you guys

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<v Speaker 1>probably don't remember prior Internet, but I was around during

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<v Speaker 1>that era and that was a that was a big deal.

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<v Speaker 1>The world ran just fine, but it didn't run at speed.

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<v Speaker 1>And now you apply blockchain and AI into this, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you throw robotics at this.

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<v Speaker 2>Holy no, no, it's it's insane. What's coming. It's it's

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<v Speaker 2>the mind cannot fandom what's coming just Ei alone, let alone,

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<v Speaker 2>never mind blotching. But when you connect all the three together,

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's it's at like take the Internet multiple a

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred times. It's going to be stupid.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very very interesting concerning if we don't get our

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<v Speaker 1>hands around it. And then also I think for society,

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to create some shifts that maybe even we

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<v Speaker 1>don't realize are going to be happening. I think a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people have already started to see a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of this, which is why it's so important for

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<v Speaker 1>people to get into digital assets, because this is essentially

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<v Speaker 1>the wealth the server and the maker at the same time.

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<v Speaker 1>Whether you're someone who's achieved some wealth in life or

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<v Speaker 1>you're a person that has not, this is the time

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<v Speaker 1>where actually both societies can benefit from this. So very

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<v Speaker 1>intriguing issues for sure. All right, guys, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>to do, like subscribe. If you're not following Jesse over

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<v Speaker 1>on apex Crypto Insights, make sure and visit him over

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<v Speaker 1>on YouTube and we will catch you next time right

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<v Speaker 1>here on the x rppot. Take care