WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.280 --> 00:00:01.960 Baby, I'm a gangstato. 2 00:00:02.720 --> 00:00:05.960 It takes a little tangle. You don't want to mess 3 00:00:06.000 --> 00:00:06.599 with me. 4 00:00:06.599 --> 00:00:08.919 Mess with me, baby, I'm a gangsta. 5 00:00:09.000 --> 00:00:16.000 Touch baby, you're a game. 6 00:00:15.839 --> 00:00:26.679 Statoo For the warners, this podcast is designed to take 7 00:00:26.719 --> 00:00:29.839 you outside of your comfort zone and make you question reality. 8 00:00:30.239 --> 00:00:39.640 Listener discretion is a vibe, fellas. 9 00:00:41.600 --> 00:00:55.799 This ain't my first time at the rodeos uh New 10 00:00:55.880 --> 00:00:59.560 York Patriots. It's been a long time, A long time, 11 00:00:59.640 --> 00:01:00.799 maybe been a year. 12 00:01:00.920 --> 00:01:04.280 Actually, I think it's probably been about a year. 13 00:01:06.719 --> 00:01:11.000 For Halloween, I released like some of my older Halloween 14 00:01:11.040 --> 00:01:14.200 episodes kind of like throwback or whatever. And one of 15 00:01:14.200 --> 00:01:18.040 the ones that I I re uploaded was the one 16 00:01:18.079 --> 00:01:21.000 we did about the Winchester mystery. 17 00:01:21.719 --> 00:01:25.000 Do you remember that? Yeah? 18 00:01:25.079 --> 00:01:27.920 Yeah. I listened back to it again and I was like, 19 00:01:28.040 --> 00:01:31.640 oh damn, this was this was a really good episode. Actually, 20 00:01:31.959 --> 00:01:34.519 you brought a lot of cool information to that one too. 21 00:01:34.599 --> 00:01:38.840 I was thinking about that episode and I reached back 22 00:01:38.879 --> 00:01:42.959 out to you, so thank you for joining me, and 23 00:01:43.680 --> 00:01:46.319 I think we'll we'll be getting into some cool stuff 24 00:01:46.359 --> 00:01:53.359 today too. Interesting both well, you've been looking into something 25 00:01:54.760 --> 00:02:01.079 in particular, and I think it has to do with eyeballs. 26 00:02:01.159 --> 00:02:04.959 But like not but in like the occult sense. 27 00:02:04.799 --> 00:02:07.359 Right, yeah, yeah, yeah, I was. 28 00:02:07.920 --> 00:02:10.360 I mean, I guess like just due to like when 29 00:02:10.360 --> 00:02:12.919 I had magical experiences, there was just things that happened, 30 00:02:12.960 --> 00:02:16.960 even with my eyes particularly that made me think something 31 00:02:17.039 --> 00:02:19.560 might be going on. And then like I started looking 32 00:02:19.599 --> 00:02:22.800 at uh, you know, diagrams or pictures of you know, 33 00:02:23.240 --> 00:02:26.240 with a drawings or even you know, photos of magnific 34 00:02:26.240 --> 00:02:29.360 you know, magnifications of parts of the eye and just 35 00:02:29.360 --> 00:02:31.919 seeing how like it works and how the light you know, 36 00:02:32.080 --> 00:02:35.080 changes and stuff. Just to me, I started seeing like 37 00:02:35.199 --> 00:02:37.719 a lot of occult symbolism, or I mean even in 38 00:02:37.759 --> 00:02:40.800 some of the reflection reflections of light start to look 39 00:02:40.840 --> 00:02:44.599 like certain sigils, like I mean even the the sigil 40 00:02:44.639 --> 00:02:47.919 that they use for you know, the fleama uses whatever 41 00:02:48.400 --> 00:02:52.280 that thing. I mean that pretty very much actually the 42 00:02:52.319 --> 00:02:54.919 way light reflects off of your lens as it goes 43 00:02:54.919 --> 00:02:57.439 in and goes back out, So you start to wonder 44 00:02:57.439 --> 00:03:00.719 if like it even you know, is that even referring 45 00:03:00.719 --> 00:03:03.759 to But yeah, because of that, I started looking into 46 00:03:03.759 --> 00:03:06.680 a lot of stuff and then eventually, uh, you know, 47 00:03:06.719 --> 00:03:10.240 eventually I had somebody come on the show, my co 48 00:03:10.319 --> 00:03:12.960 hos Lisa, who was very big into the you know, 49 00:03:13.039 --> 00:03:16.639 she knew physiology, she knows that very well. So we 50 00:03:16.719 --> 00:03:18.199 ended up doing like I think, like a five or 51 00:03:18.199 --> 00:03:20.479 six part series on the occult rejects about you know, 52 00:03:20.520 --> 00:03:22.599 the eye and just showing how there's like certain things 53 00:03:22.599 --> 00:03:26.240 that I do think you will see in taro, you know, 54 00:03:26.520 --> 00:03:29.520 old Renaissance art. I think there's a lot of occult 55 00:03:29.560 --> 00:03:32.360 symbolism that, in my opinion is actually I think based 56 00:03:32.400 --> 00:03:34.560 off of the eye. And I do even think it 57 00:03:34.639 --> 00:03:38.439 might possibly go into the brain or you know, maybe 58 00:03:38.479 --> 00:03:41.360 even you know, blood stuff to do with blood and this, 59 00:03:41.560 --> 00:03:44.360 you know, nerves maybe, but I think a lot a 60 00:03:44.400 --> 00:03:46.719 lot actually points at the eye. 61 00:03:46.960 --> 00:03:50.439 So I have actually a question for you because I 62 00:03:50.520 --> 00:03:54.680 have my own theory on this, and I mean, I'm 63 00:03:54.719 --> 00:03:57.479 sure everyone has some kind of a grand theory about it. 64 00:03:57.520 --> 00:04:00.319 But it's almost like everything that we pre see you 65 00:04:00.479 --> 00:04:04.919 through our eyes, everything that we can reach out and touch, 66 00:04:05.120 --> 00:04:10.120 that we can see that to me is less realistic 67 00:04:10.879 --> 00:04:14.319 than the things that you can't physically see. Like I 68 00:04:14.319 --> 00:04:17.480 think like everything that we see could potentially be fake, 69 00:04:18.199 --> 00:04:24.639 and the things that we perceive as you know, love, faith, 70 00:04:25.240 --> 00:04:29.360 any type of spirituality, things that we can't actually see 71 00:04:29.759 --> 00:04:34.079 are the actually the realest things? In my opinion, isn't that. 72 00:04:34.240 --> 00:04:37.920 I know it sounds stupid, but like I could reach 73 00:04:37.959 --> 00:04:40.040 out and touch this lamp. I can see the lamp. 74 00:04:40.120 --> 00:04:42.360 I can touch the lamp, so therefore it's real. But 75 00:04:42.600 --> 00:04:47.199 is it because I can't see or touch emotions? But 76 00:04:47.839 --> 00:04:50.639 like I know that they're more real than anything. How 77 00:04:50.680 --> 00:04:53.120 I feel about the lamp is more realistic than the 78 00:04:53.199 --> 00:04:54.720 lamp in my opinion. 79 00:04:55.759 --> 00:04:58.639 Yeah, yeah, I hate to say that is true. 80 00:04:58.800 --> 00:05:01.120 Actually, your your impression of what that land means to 81 00:05:01.160 --> 00:05:03.279 you is probably more important than any existing there. 82 00:05:03.720 --> 00:05:07.199 Right, So it intrigued me when you were talking about 83 00:05:07.240 --> 00:05:10.879 that you were looking into the eyes themselves as being 84 00:05:10.959 --> 00:05:16.120 like more culted than one might think, because don't we 85 00:05:16.199 --> 00:05:18.639 have like a prism or something in our fucking eye, 86 00:05:18.720 --> 00:05:21.680 and like everything gets like. 87 00:05:20.839 --> 00:05:25.920 Like flipped back and it gets technically I think, like 88 00:05:25.920 --> 00:05:28.040 like three, it gets flipped like twice kind. 89 00:05:27.800 --> 00:05:30.759 Of so I meant to see an image. 90 00:05:31.079 --> 00:05:33.120 Yeah, so you even have to start to wonder, like, 91 00:05:34.120 --> 00:05:37.360 I mean, how correct? I you know, re upside down, 92 00:05:38.279 --> 00:05:40.639 but it's like how correct is like the image after 93 00:05:40.680 --> 00:05:43.959 it gets flipped and moved around like that too? I 94 00:05:43.959 --> 00:05:45.600 don't know, you just have to start to wonders. They're 95 00:05:45.639 --> 00:05:48.920 like corruption and what's really there? 96 00:05:49.519 --> 00:05:53.079 Yeah, so like if there's a lens in our eye, right, 97 00:05:54.800 --> 00:05:58.879 and everything that we see gets filtered through that lens. 98 00:05:59.319 --> 00:06:02.720 What we do on a daily basis, like watching movies 99 00:06:03.120 --> 00:06:06.920 stuff on TV. They even have our ratings now for 100 00:06:07.040 --> 00:06:10.079 flashing lights and shit, like in the R rating it'll 101 00:06:10.079 --> 00:06:14.560 be like tits pussy flashing lights and you're like, oh, okay, 102 00:06:14.600 --> 00:06:17.040 so now it's R rated to have flashing lights in 103 00:06:17.079 --> 00:06:19.240 a movie. And when we sit in front of a 104 00:06:19.279 --> 00:06:22.120 screen all the time, how easy would it be to 105 00:06:22.199 --> 00:06:25.480 like reprogram something in the lens of our eyes to 106 00:06:25.560 --> 00:06:29.959 see things differently, perceive things differently. I mean, it's got 107 00:06:30.000 --> 00:06:32.240 to be one of the most vulnerable ways you can 108 00:06:32.439 --> 00:06:34.839 get into somebody's head through their fucking eyes. 109 00:06:36.879 --> 00:06:40.800 Yeah, the eye is an auditory mh. You no sight 110 00:06:40.879 --> 00:06:45.000 and sound, I think, especially like when you give something 111 00:06:45.079 --> 00:06:47.759 innate too, which I guess it kind of well, unless 112 00:06:47.759 --> 00:06:50.560 it's written, I guess that's sight. But yeah, I do 113 00:06:50.680 --> 00:06:56.120 think it's huge. It's a huge manipulation tool. You know, 114 00:06:56.160 --> 00:06:59.639 as soon you can put up an image, say like 115 00:06:59.680 --> 00:07:01.720 a so and sound, they're a certain name, and all 116 00:07:01.759 --> 00:07:05.040 of a sudden, people just like attract hate to it, 117 00:07:05.319 --> 00:07:05.480 you know. 118 00:07:05.439 --> 00:07:09.120 What I'm saying. You know, it's a very weird thing 119 00:07:09.120 --> 00:07:09.920 if you think about it. 120 00:07:10.439 --> 00:07:16.040 Well, when like what do you think Let's just say 121 00:07:16.160 --> 00:07:21.040 that the real parts of life, like I said before, 122 00:07:21.079 --> 00:07:24.360 like emotions, feelings about stuff, those are all like the 123 00:07:24.439 --> 00:07:28.879 real things. What do you think attracts certain people to 124 00:07:29.079 --> 00:07:32.279 other people? Like physically because you know, like two people 125 00:07:32.279 --> 00:07:34.079 can look at the same person be like, no, they're 126 00:07:34.120 --> 00:07:40.079 not attractive, Yes they're attractive, and so you know what 127 00:07:40.079 --> 00:07:43.920 I mean, Like it's everything that goes on in our 128 00:07:44.319 --> 00:07:47.959 entire lives is fed through our eyes, and like what 129 00:07:48.079 --> 00:07:50.800 programming do we all have, Like we don't think the 130 00:07:50.879 --> 00:07:57.839 same things are attractive. We don't see like the same Yeah, 131 00:07:58.120 --> 00:07:58.800 you know what I mean? 132 00:07:59.439 --> 00:08:02.800 Yeah, uh, that's probably I mean, I don't know, I 133 00:08:02.839 --> 00:08:05.079 mean that could. I mean, I'd hate to say it, 134 00:08:05.160 --> 00:08:08.000 but I wonder if that's even like just different. 135 00:08:07.759 --> 00:08:14.839 DNA really Yeah, I don't know, or I mean, because 136 00:08:14.879 --> 00:08:15.199 like it might. 137 00:08:15.319 --> 00:08:16.959 It's as crazy as it is, like I guess in 138 00:08:17.040 --> 00:08:20.160 my opinion, I sometimes do and it seems a little 139 00:08:20.160 --> 00:08:23.319 bit of drastic maybe of a belief, but sometimes I 140 00:08:23.399 --> 00:08:25.360 do think, like the problem is is like living in 141 00:08:25.399 --> 00:08:28.360 this world with these eyes open. I think kind of 142 00:08:28.360 --> 00:08:30.839 like if you're falling in love with something with your eyes, 143 00:08:30.879 --> 00:08:34.080 you're kind of already stuck with like and Lucifer's chains. 144 00:08:35.600 --> 00:08:39.879 So I mean, I maybe like certain things or just 145 00:08:40.440 --> 00:08:43.799 or vices, easier vices, but I don't know other people 146 00:08:43.799 --> 00:08:46.759 and maybe it's in the DNA. Have no idea, So 147 00:08:46.879 --> 00:08:48.559 you think it's a hard question. But I know what 148 00:08:48.600 --> 00:08:50.000 you're asking, and that's a really good. 149 00:08:49.879 --> 00:08:54.399 Question, right, But like, do you think the eyes themselves, 150 00:08:54.440 --> 00:08:58.240 like there's just this magical component to where it controls 151 00:08:58.399 --> 00:09:02.279 the entire outcome of our existence, what we perceive. 152 00:09:02.799 --> 00:09:04.600 Oh, yeah, that you know what I mean? 153 00:09:06.120 --> 00:09:08.000 Yeah, because brain will have a like you know, we'll 154 00:09:08.480 --> 00:09:11.600 have a relationship with our eyes to kind of determine what. 155 00:09:11.559 --> 00:09:14.440 It's seeing, do we like mm hmmm, or how it 156 00:09:14.519 --> 00:09:15.159 impacts us. 157 00:09:15.200 --> 00:09:17.279 And then another thing, I mean, to be totally honest 158 00:09:17.320 --> 00:09:20.559 with you, the eyeballs even project about six feet out, 159 00:09:21.279 --> 00:09:23.440 so like there's like some doctors or some people out 160 00:09:23.440 --> 00:09:25.399 there who actually think that like you might actually be 161 00:09:25.440 --> 00:09:29.200 having like a cyclical relationship with what you're projecting out. 162 00:09:29.279 --> 00:09:31.279 And then what you're bringing back in what the world 163 00:09:31.320 --> 00:09:31.720 is around it. 164 00:09:32.120 --> 00:09:33.039 Shut the fuck up. 165 00:09:33.480 --> 00:09:35.840 Yeah, So I mean they started thinking about shit like that. 166 00:09:35.919 --> 00:09:36.759 It's just like wow. 167 00:09:36.919 --> 00:09:39.200 But I mean the one interesting thing is though, like 168 00:09:39.240 --> 00:09:41.320 even if I've tried to explain this before, even with 169 00:09:41.360 --> 00:09:44.639 the sun, I mean, all light and sound is basically 170 00:09:44.679 --> 00:09:47.600 like information or code or some sort of like there's 171 00:09:47.639 --> 00:09:50.559 like some sort of like energy or vibrational. 172 00:09:50.080 --> 00:09:50.840 Rate behind that. 173 00:09:52.159 --> 00:09:54.480 I mean that's that all goes into our eyes and 174 00:09:54.519 --> 00:09:56.519 we absorb that into our brain. So I mean the 175 00:09:56.519 --> 00:10:00.639 sun is sending us some sort of information regardless, and 176 00:10:00.679 --> 00:10:02.360 it gets you know, the optic nerve then turns it 177 00:10:02.399 --> 00:10:06.240 into electricity and that's what runs our body. So I mean, 178 00:10:06.320 --> 00:10:08.600 in some ways, which is really weird. It's like, are 179 00:10:08.639 --> 00:10:13.519 we powered by and like biological like solo powered biological AI? 180 00:10:14.600 --> 00:10:18.240 What do you think about like blind people though I 181 00:10:18.279 --> 00:10:21.480 don't know, or like people like me that can barely 182 00:10:21.559 --> 00:10:24.200 see without these fucking frames on my face, Like. 183 00:10:24.120 --> 00:10:30.200 I don't know, right, Uh, I have no idea. 184 00:10:30.320 --> 00:10:30.879 I'm just. 185 00:10:32.519 --> 00:10:34.240 I'm like, what the fuck happens to blind people? I 186 00:10:34.240 --> 00:10:34.720 have thought of that. 187 00:10:34.840 --> 00:10:37.720 Yeah, you would think they would be able to correct 188 00:10:37.759 --> 00:10:41.000 blindness as far into the future as we are with 189 00:10:41.039 --> 00:10:43.960 like AI stuff and all this fucking neurro link and shit. 190 00:10:44.039 --> 00:10:46.240 You would have thought a motherfucker at this point in 191 00:10:46.320 --> 00:10:48.480 time would have been like, there's this thing we can 192 00:10:48.519 --> 00:10:50.720 do where we catch your fucking eyeball open and we 193 00:10:50.799 --> 00:10:55.720 fucking use the fucking defribulator for the eyeball and zap 194 00:10:55.759 --> 00:10:59.919 it back into like you know what I mean, like 195 00:11:00.159 --> 00:11:04.200 something to get like the electric current in your eyeball. 196 00:11:04.480 --> 00:11:08.159 You know, yeah, I like it. That's funny. 197 00:11:08.399 --> 00:11:11.600 Blind motherfuckers happened to be some of the most talented 198 00:11:11.799 --> 00:11:15.000 assholes out there too, because I don't know if it's 199 00:11:15.039 --> 00:11:17.360 because they can't see, but they usually can play the 200 00:11:17.399 --> 00:11:20.200 piano like a son of a bitch or some type 201 00:11:20.200 --> 00:11:24.320 of musical instrument. And I don't know, do you think 202 00:11:25.200 --> 00:11:27.919 this is such a side Do you think Stevie Wonder 203 00:11:27.960 --> 00:11:32.080 is actually blind? I questioned him because I've seen a 204 00:11:32.120 --> 00:11:35.240 couple of videos where it's like he's responding to stuff 205 00:11:35.279 --> 00:11:37.960 and it's like, I thought you were blind, motherfucker. 206 00:11:37.639 --> 00:11:40.360 Like no, there was I saw a Shaquille O'Neal like 207 00:11:40.440 --> 00:11:43.759 do a post on something like that. N huh yeah, 208 00:11:43.840 --> 00:11:46.000 where he was like, wait, what the hell like it 209 00:11:46.080 --> 00:11:49.720 was like a video where it showed Stevie Wonder up 210 00:11:49.720 --> 00:11:54.000 on stage, and I think like he like specifically acknowledged 211 00:11:54.039 --> 00:11:56.519 something that somebody did back to him. 212 00:11:57.279 --> 00:12:03.080 Yeah, yeah, yeah, I was like, wait, wait what people kids? 213 00:12:04.279 --> 00:12:05.039 How did he see that? 214 00:12:05.639 --> 00:12:09.720 Mm hmm yeah, But no, I was just curious what 215 00:12:09.799 --> 00:12:12.039 you think about that, because I, like I said before, 216 00:12:13.440 --> 00:12:15.240 you would have thought that they would came up with 217 00:12:15.279 --> 00:12:17.519 a way to correct this issue by now, but they're 218 00:12:17.559 --> 00:12:21.240 still blind motherfuckers. And it's not that you know, when 219 00:12:21.279 --> 00:12:23.320 you go to sleep at night, if your room is 220 00:12:23.320 --> 00:12:26.559 completely dark and you close your eyes, you can like 221 00:12:26.639 --> 00:12:30.519 see like flashes of light and shit behind your eyelids. 222 00:12:31.799 --> 00:12:34.279 Do you think it's like that still for blind people? 223 00:12:34.320 --> 00:12:44.240 I mean, oh, because it's like you're seeing through the 224 00:12:44.360 --> 00:12:46.840 lens a little bit when you close your eyes at night. 225 00:12:46.879 --> 00:12:49.200 Like you can be in complete darkness and still close 226 00:12:49.240 --> 00:12:52.000 your eyes and like see flickers of light and ship 227 00:12:53.320 --> 00:12:59.200 you know. So it's like you're actually seeing more when 228 00:12:59.279 --> 00:13:02.639 you close your ey eyes than you are when you 229 00:13:02.679 --> 00:13:09.000 have them open. So I think that could have something 230 00:13:09.039 --> 00:13:12.080 to do with like the magical aspect of it as well. 231 00:13:12.120 --> 00:13:14.159 Like I said before, when your eyes are open you're 232 00:13:14.200 --> 00:13:17.320 actually seeing less than when they're closed. 233 00:13:20.600 --> 00:13:23.320 Yeah, I mean, I've it was. 234 00:13:23.360 --> 00:13:24.639 I mean, I don't know if it was because I 235 00:13:24.759 --> 00:13:27.879 practiced doing it for a while too, but like, I mean, 236 00:13:27.879 --> 00:13:30.159 I guess that's probably why. But I was like there 237 00:13:30.200 --> 00:13:32.080 was like certain lessons of books that I did that 238 00:13:33.480 --> 00:13:36.000 would like sometimes give you lessons to try to visualize 239 00:13:36.000 --> 00:13:38.519 like certain shapes or colors and stuff. And after doing that, 240 00:13:40.200 --> 00:13:42.879 I mean there's times where it's like you could close 241 00:13:42.879 --> 00:13:45.039 your eyes and like maybe almost like start creating your 242 00:13:45.080 --> 00:13:49.559 own movie. It's more realistic than any CGM. 243 00:13:50.399 --> 00:13:50.840 Yeah. 244 00:13:50.960 --> 00:13:55.120 Yeah, yeah, yeah, if that's what you're getting. Yeah, sometimes 245 00:13:56.200 --> 00:13:58.000 make some wild shit with those eyes closed. 246 00:13:58.279 --> 00:13:58.559 M h. 247 00:14:00.000 --> 00:14:03.480 Have you ever heard that some people when they recall memories, 248 00:14:04.000 --> 00:14:07.399 they recall the memory in their mind as if it 249 00:14:07.440 --> 00:14:11.200 was a movie, and they can play out the entire 250 00:14:11.279 --> 00:14:14.240 scene in their head and that's how they remember things. 251 00:14:14.919 --> 00:14:18.799 And then some people remember things only in like audio 252 00:14:19.240 --> 00:14:22.080 and they can't visualize pictures in their head. Have you 253 00:14:22.120 --> 00:14:22.679 heard about that? 254 00:14:23.200 --> 00:14:23.360 Yes? 255 00:14:23.519 --> 00:14:25.960 Yeah, yeah, I think I'm one of those people where 256 00:14:25.960 --> 00:14:27.080 it's like visual stuff. 257 00:14:28.000 --> 00:14:32.279 Yeah. So, like if I asked you what Thanksgiving was 258 00:14:32.440 --> 00:14:34.840 like for you when you remember back to it can 259 00:14:34.919 --> 00:14:38.159 you imagine or not imagine, but like you can recall 260 00:14:39.480 --> 00:14:42.840 like a movie scene, what went on scene? 261 00:14:42.919 --> 00:14:44.720 Yeah, yeah, I know what you mean, like snapshots of 262 00:14:44.840 --> 00:14:46.840 like Thanksgiving. Yeah. 263 00:14:46.960 --> 00:14:51.879 So the theory is is that people who cannot recall 264 00:14:52.039 --> 00:14:59.720 memories visually and only auditory, they're like in PCs. What 265 00:14:59.720 --> 00:15:00.639 do you think about that? 266 00:15:02.039 --> 00:15:05.919 Oh, that's interesting way to put it. That could be possible. 267 00:15:06.120 --> 00:15:07.720 They do think there's a lot of them out there. 268 00:15:08.279 --> 00:15:08.639 Mm hm. 269 00:15:09.519 --> 00:15:11.200 Would you know if you were though? 270 00:15:12.039 --> 00:15:13.799 Uh, probably not. 271 00:15:14.159 --> 00:15:17.440 Is there like a fucking checklist like for just anybody 272 00:15:17.480 --> 00:15:20.480 out there? Like checklist? Do you have this, this? 273 00:15:20.480 --> 00:15:20.639 This? 274 00:15:22.679 --> 00:15:22.879 Yeah? 275 00:15:23.080 --> 00:15:26.080 Yeah, yeah. I don't think an NPC would know that they're. 276 00:15:25.919 --> 00:15:31.840 An NPC, but they have like this. I don't know 277 00:15:32.120 --> 00:15:32.639 I would. 278 00:15:32.440 --> 00:15:37.480 Want to even think any different mm hmmm mm hmm unfortunately. 279 00:15:38.559 --> 00:15:40.879 And I think that they can be, like you said, 280 00:15:40.919 --> 00:15:43.919 kind of like programmed through their perception like I'm a 281 00:15:43.960 --> 00:15:49.960 real person because I'm having a real experience and I 282 00:15:50.000 --> 00:15:53.759 know it's real because I can see stuff and touch 283 00:15:53.759 --> 00:15:56.440 stuff and other people can see me, and they know 284 00:15:56.519 --> 00:15:59.679 that I'm here and I have a job and I 285 00:15:59.720 --> 00:16:01.279 do this and I do that, and they have a 286 00:16:01.320 --> 00:16:06.639 real like a real quote unquote existence. But they're actually 287 00:16:06.720 --> 00:16:09.279 just in PCs like you would you would think like 288 00:16:10.279 --> 00:16:13.200 they wouldn't know. I think I've worked with a couple, 289 00:16:13.240 --> 00:16:15.759 if I'm just being honest with you, people who work 290 00:16:15.840 --> 00:16:18.879 nine to five jobs and these fucking middle aged ladies 291 00:16:18.879 --> 00:16:22.159 that wear the same five sweaters all the time. People 292 00:16:22.200 --> 00:16:27.320 know exactly what I'm talking about. You've worked with an NPC. Yes, yes, 293 00:16:30.919 --> 00:16:33.720 I'm just saying they wear the same fucking outfits. They 294 00:16:33.759 --> 00:16:37.080 would laugh at the same five jokes. They you know, 295 00:16:37.639 --> 00:16:41.200 have this mundane existence or whatever. But I guess the 296 00:16:41.279 --> 00:16:44.399 real question is you wouldn't know. I guess if you 297 00:16:44.480 --> 00:16:51.279 were one and they perceive the simulated reality the same 298 00:16:51.360 --> 00:16:57.279 as someone who's not. So they werefore they think that 299 00:16:57.519 --> 00:17:00.960 every all this is real, And like I said before, 300 00:17:01.000 --> 00:17:03.000 I think all the real shit happens when you're not 301 00:17:03.200 --> 00:17:06.119 in your waking hours like dreaming. 302 00:17:06.559 --> 00:17:07.920 Oh yeah yeah yeah. 303 00:17:07.960 --> 00:17:13.319 So what other magical aspect, like do you have a 304 00:17:13.359 --> 00:17:15.400 grand theory on this whole thing? 305 00:17:16.200 --> 00:17:19.519 Oh yeah, yeah, well let's see, Yeah, I could get 306 00:17:19.559 --> 00:17:24.400 into that stuff. Yeah. 307 00:17:24.519 --> 00:17:29.119 My experience due to the visions and the feelings that 308 00:17:29.200 --> 00:17:32.880 I've gone through and the experiences that I had after 309 00:17:32.920 --> 00:17:38.359 the fact, I think in some sense, you know how 310 00:17:38.359 --> 00:17:40.160 like when they say when people die they see. 311 00:17:40.039 --> 00:17:41.680 The lights go out in their eyes. 312 00:17:41.759 --> 00:17:46.279 Right, well, I think it's going back into your eye. 313 00:17:47.599 --> 00:17:51.279 But uh, also all right, in my opinion, I think 314 00:17:51.319 --> 00:17:53.440 there will be a complete physical change, like almost a 315 00:17:53.440 --> 00:17:56.319 now chemical change in someone's body when they fuck with 316 00:17:56.359 --> 00:17:59.480 magic are crossing the abyss, And I do think the 317 00:17:59.640 --> 00:18:02.599 energy you will start to like kind of go up 318 00:18:02.599 --> 00:18:07.240 your body and eventually, you know, even your eyes and 319 00:18:07.480 --> 00:18:12.000 like by the time everything's done happening. It's me sound crazy, 320 00:18:12.000 --> 00:18:14.960 but it's my experience, from my opinion of the experiences 321 00:18:15.000 --> 00:18:17.799 that I've had that death is actual reality to a 322 00:18:17.880 --> 00:18:20.839 magical experience. Your soul is gonna slip out of your 323 00:18:20.839 --> 00:18:23.319 body and they're gonna go somewhere else, and you know 324 00:18:23.400 --> 00:18:24.839 the light in your eyes has something to. 325 00:18:24.759 --> 00:18:25.960 Do with it. 326 00:18:26.240 --> 00:18:30.200 Really, Yeah, I mean I've had like the same and 327 00:18:30.279 --> 00:18:34.440 even like once I started like having these magical experiences, there's. 328 00:18:34.319 --> 00:18:35.240 Like the same. 329 00:18:36.519 --> 00:18:39.519 Same visual and feelings I get every time it happens. 330 00:18:39.519 --> 00:18:41.759 But that's the only time I've ever seen or ever 331 00:18:41.799 --> 00:18:43.640 felt that way. 332 00:18:43.480 --> 00:18:44.480 I saw a light. 333 00:18:45.640 --> 00:18:47.799 Well, it begins as a as a as like a 334 00:18:47.799 --> 00:18:50.720 pin dot light but eventually turns into a gigantic eclipse. 335 00:18:51.240 --> 00:18:52.440 That's why it's all I don't. 336 00:18:52.319 --> 00:18:54.400 Know if you've even noticed, but like it's all over 337 00:18:54.480 --> 00:18:58.079 my like thumbnails and art now for the show, there's always. 338 00:18:57.759 --> 00:19:00.720 An eclipse now because that's why, yeah, blast. 339 00:19:00.519 --> 00:19:04.440 Off, where do you go after the blast off? 340 00:19:05.480 --> 00:19:08.279 Fucking anywhere? It's always like something like kind of different looking. 341 00:19:08.319 --> 00:19:10.319 But the weirdest thing, though, I'll tell you the truth, 342 00:19:11.440 --> 00:19:14.279 is that it does look a lot like what NASA 343 00:19:14.400 --> 00:19:16.880 depicts with CGI. Is that a space to be? 344 00:19:17.960 --> 00:19:18.359 Really? 345 00:19:18.920 --> 00:19:21.039 I mean no, I've never seen planets or anything like that, 346 00:19:21.079 --> 00:19:22.680 but just like you know how like there's all these 347 00:19:22.720 --> 00:19:25.400 like this mixtures of colors and like these auroras and shit. 348 00:19:26.000 --> 00:19:28.680 It's almost as if like you've actually like melted into 349 00:19:28.680 --> 00:19:30.920 the fabric of like that scene. 350 00:19:31.240 --> 00:19:32.279 You're just like part of it. 351 00:19:33.240 --> 00:19:34.920 I hate to sound. 352 00:19:35.480 --> 00:19:38.000 I mean, it sounds like I can even like. 353 00:19:38.160 --> 00:19:40.799 No, no, no, I was gonna say, I hate to 354 00:19:40.920 --> 00:19:45.799 sound like uh, religious weirdo or anything, but it almost 355 00:19:45.839 --> 00:19:50.079 sounds like Heidi would know better than I would. Outer darkness, 356 00:19:50.440 --> 00:19:55.240 what they describe as outer darkness with the Mormon stuff. 357 00:19:55.279 --> 00:19:58.160 You know, they'll be like, oh you'll be cast it 358 00:19:58.240 --> 00:20:00.880 into outer darkness, and they we also have a bunch 359 00:20:00.960 --> 00:20:05.640 of other weird occulty things that they believe in the Mormons. 360 00:20:06.880 --> 00:20:10.640 So what do you think about the outer darkness? 361 00:20:11.319 --> 00:20:12.200 That's a great question. 362 00:20:12.559 --> 00:20:17.960 Uh whatever, I have these experiences, like you'd probably understand, 363 00:20:17.960 --> 00:20:19.799 Like if you go on like Meditator, you close your 364 00:20:19.799 --> 00:20:21.480 eyes for a while, you're like you were talking about 365 00:20:21.519 --> 00:20:24.000 the flickering. Sometimes for me, like that will eventually go 366 00:20:24.039 --> 00:20:26.000 away because I guess maybe I'm so deep into my 367 00:20:26.039 --> 00:20:28.640 own head that I'm really not focused on even outside 368 00:20:28.640 --> 00:20:31.519 my eyelids anymore, that it will get darker kind of 369 00:20:32.400 --> 00:20:34.799 whenever I have these experiences, like it will look like 370 00:20:35.160 --> 00:20:37.240 it's dark, it will look like, you know, I'm in 371 00:20:37.240 --> 00:20:39.960 the you know, my eyes are closed in its complete darkness, 372 00:20:40.720 --> 00:20:42.279 and then all of a sudden, it just looks like 373 00:20:42.319 --> 00:20:47.000 this blacker than black starts to show up, like it 374 00:20:47.160 --> 00:20:50.480 spills out, and like I've explained, like I guess maybe 375 00:20:50.480 --> 00:20:52.920 if you're looking down at a black table and you're like, damn, 376 00:20:52.960 --> 00:20:56.359 that looks dark, and then you blue on it and 377 00:20:56.359 --> 00:20:58.039 it must have been dust on it that you didn't 378 00:20:58.039 --> 00:21:00.240 even notice, and it starts to blow away and heath 379 00:21:00.240 --> 00:21:03.640 there's even blacker than black, or like an oil slick 380 00:21:03.680 --> 00:21:06.319 coming out of like a paved road that's even darker 381 00:21:06.920 --> 00:21:10.160 that starts to like spread out and like around it 382 00:21:10.200 --> 00:21:15.799 will be like it's almost like very thin bright lines. 383 00:21:15.440 --> 00:21:17.039 Of like glowing colors. 384 00:21:17.079 --> 00:21:19.920 Like it almost looks the best way I can actually 385 00:21:20.279 --> 00:21:23.960 explain it, it almost looks like thermal imaging color but very 386 00:21:25.039 --> 00:21:32.680 you know, bright and like laser you know, you know, I'll. 387 00:21:32.519 --> 00:21:36.000 See shit like that. Uh I forgot, where was I 388 00:21:36.000 --> 00:21:36.599 going with that? Now? 389 00:21:36.680 --> 00:21:39.000 Oh yeah, yeah, that will be like around it, almost 390 00:21:39.000 --> 00:21:41.880 like an oil slick will look like these thin like 391 00:21:42.240 --> 00:21:46.119 thermal bright you know, red or blue, you know, and 392 00:21:46.160 --> 00:21:48.880 other colors like around it, and it starts to spread 393 00:21:48.920 --> 00:21:52.079 out and it's like fucking darker than dark, and like 394 00:21:52.599 --> 00:21:56.599 sometimes it almost looks like very weird. Actually, when I 395 00:21:56.640 --> 00:22:00.559 saw a stranger things, I think the less they were 396 00:22:00.640 --> 00:22:02.839 showing like eleven inside of like a room, and I 397 00:22:02.839 --> 00:22:04.759 had like this black floor that looked like, you know, 398 00:22:05.279 --> 00:22:09.240 had water on it, and I was like, it almost 399 00:22:09.279 --> 00:22:10.519 looks like that where it looks. 400 00:22:10.279 --> 00:22:13.759 Like a black flag, a black water, a goop. 401 00:22:13.880 --> 00:22:16.400