1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:03,439 Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of The Chicks on the Right podcast. 2 00:00:03,919 --> 00:00:06,719 You guys, I know everybody's just as excited as we 3 00:00:06,799 --> 00:00:11,560 are to have got Gemmys. 4 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:15,439 Speaker 2: I have to purr on our show every single time. 5 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:18,600 Speaker 1: She has to do the purr because I can't do it. 6 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:22,960 Speaker 3: You all are terrific to have me on. And I 7 00:00:23,039 --> 00:00:25,839 just have to say, I hear from people all over 8 00:00:25,879 --> 00:00:29,399 the country almost every day. Do you know these amazing 9 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:32,119 women on the Chicks on the Right. They're playing your clips, 10 00:00:32,119 --> 00:00:34,920 are talking about you again, they're purring about you. I'm like, 11 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:37,520 I don't know them personally, but I feel like we 12 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:42,000 have this cosmic connection. And so this this engagement's been 13 00:00:42,039 --> 00:00:43,719 a long time in the making, and I'm very grateful 14 00:00:43,759 --> 00:00:45,000 to be here and for for everything. 15 00:00:45,079 --> 00:00:45,840 Speaker 1: So happy to have you. 16 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 2: And after today you can say I personally know them. 17 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:50,280 We're like bfs job so there. 18 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 3: Yeah. 19 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:54,399 Speaker 1: Well, and this is going to be unlike perhaps other 20 00:00:54,479 --> 00:00:56,799 shows that you do, because most of the time when 21 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:59,119 you're on CNN, you're talking about all the news, you're 22 00:00:59,119 --> 00:01:01,640 talking about the stuff it's going on right now, but 23 00:01:01,799 --> 00:01:04,799 very rarely do we ever hear you talk about you. 24 00:01:05,159 --> 00:01:07,040 And that's what we want to know about that's what 25 00:01:07,079 --> 00:01:09,879 our audience wants to know about. So we thought we 26 00:01:09,879 --> 00:01:13,040 would kick it off just by asking you how you 27 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:16,359 transitioned from being a White House advisor in the George 28 00:01:16,359 --> 00:01:21,000 Bush administration to being, let's face it, the star of 29 00:01:21,079 --> 00:01:23,680 the CNN right now, like you're the reason people are 30 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:25,120 tuning in. How did that all happen? 31 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 3: Well, it's a long story. I worked in politics for 32 00:01:28,599 --> 00:01:30,680 a long time, beginning in the year two thousand, so 33 00:01:30,719 --> 00:01:33,200 I've been doing this for twenty five years, and did 34 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:36,560 work for President George W. Bush, and ultimately when that 35 00:01:36,719 --> 00:01:38,760 was over, I did both campaigns and served in his 36 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:41,519 White House. I went home to Kentucky and started a 37 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:45,319 private firm and continue to work in politics somewhat there. 38 00:01:45,599 --> 00:01:49,439 I joined CNN in June of twenty seventeen. I had 39 00:01:49,519 --> 00:01:52,239 actually done about a year with Fox News before that 40 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:56,519 during the twenty sixteen campaign. But I joined CNN in 41 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:58,799 twenty seventeen and I've been there ever since. And I've 42 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:00,879 seen a lot of people come in go, and certainly 43 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:03,640 a lot of iterations of the network come and go. 44 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:06,959 But for me, you know where this really sort of 45 00:02:06,959 --> 00:02:09,159 took off in the last year was with the twenty 46 00:02:09,159 --> 00:02:13,000 twenty four presidential campaign and all of the coverage that 47 00:02:13,039 --> 00:02:14,800 we were involved in in twenty twenty. You know, it 48 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:16,840 was a weird campaign. You know, we didn't have in 49 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:20,479 person stuff, We weren't traveling, The conventions were virtual. You know, 50 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:24,120 it wasn't the same. So in twenty twenty four we 51 00:02:24,159 --> 00:02:26,400 did it all. You know, CNN had the pivotal debate 52 00:02:26,479 --> 00:02:28,960 in Atlanta, We covered the conventions. I was in Des 53 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:31,560 Moines for a debate and the Republican primary. You know, 54 00:02:31,719 --> 00:02:33,840 Ax and Van and I and the team, we traveled 55 00:02:33,879 --> 00:02:37,599 all around together and it was really the robust coverage 56 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:42,599 that this presidential campaign deserved. I became the principal sort 57 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:46,080 of Republican translator from Red America, you know, for our 58 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:51,240 audience and my fellow panel mates, and created a lot 59 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:54,039 of interesting content. I think one of the most inspired 60 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:57,319 things CNN did during this election was create this ten 61 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:01,199 o'clock show, which you all watch and you use a 62 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:03,360 lot of audio from on a daily basis. It's really 63 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:07,120 the only debating show on television, and I think that's 64 00:03:07,159 --> 00:03:09,719 why it's working well. That came about in between the 65 00:03:09,719 --> 00:03:12,840 two conventions and twenty four, So really, you know, how 66 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:15,199 how did we wind up here. It was a convergence 67 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:17,719 of things. But really the twenty twenty four election and 68 00:03:18,159 --> 00:03:20,439 my good fortune of having been at CNN at the time, 69 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:23,400 and our executives deciding, you know, we're going to have 70 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:26,080 a debating show and really put people at the table 71 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:28,719 who know what they're doing. It all came together at 72 00:03:28,719 --> 00:03:30,759 the right time for me, and now we are where 73 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:31,039 we are. 74 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 1: It's really a lot of people were saying suggesting you 75 00:03:34,479 --> 00:03:37,520 as press secretary, and you know, like imagining during the 76 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:40,000 election cycle, Oh, Scott Jennings should do this. Scott Jennings 77 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:42,400 should do that? Was Did Trump ever ask you to 78 00:03:42,479 --> 00:03:46,280 participate or would you ever consider going back to politics 79 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:46,759 in that way? 80 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:50,479 Speaker 3: Oh? Sure, I think anytime the president asks you to 81 00:03:50,479 --> 00:03:52,800 do something, you have to consider it. And I did 82 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:55,840 think about, you know, should I drop all this and 83 00:03:55,919 --> 00:03:59,319 go back into government service. I enjoyed my previous service 84 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:02,080 and have enjoyed being in politics. But the more I 85 00:04:02,199 --> 00:04:04,800 thought about it, honestly, the more I decided, I think 86 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:07,520 I'm right where I need to be. And I think 87 00:04:07,599 --> 00:04:10,759 that one thing that we cannot do as conservatives is 88 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:15,199 recede from the places that are more hostile to us. 89 00:04:15,319 --> 00:04:19,800 I mean, the great value of having me in this 90 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:22,360 role on CNN, I think is just that this audience 91 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:24,519 and a lot of the people I debate, I'm probably 92 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:28,879 the only Republican they know, and you know, they're not 93 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:31,439 hearing what half or more than half, or even eighty 94 00:04:31,439 --> 00:04:34,279 percent of the country thinks about an issue on any 95 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:36,560 given day. And so I feel like I've carved out 96 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:40,399 this really interesting role. CNN gives me the space to 97 00:04:40,399 --> 00:04:44,959 do it, and it's where I'm supposed to be right now. 98 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:46,920 What I rule it out in the future, absolutely not. 99 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:49,920 What I rule out public service in the future, absolutely not. 100 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:52,199 I'm grateful for everybody who goes into it and runs 101 00:04:52,199 --> 00:04:54,720 for office and serves in these jobs. And maybe I'll 102 00:04:54,759 --> 00:04:57,040 go back to it someday, but right now I'm right 103 00:04:57,079 --> 00:04:57,720 where I need to be. 104 00:04:58,399 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 2: I think it's interesting you talk about the hust stility, 105 00:05:01,879 --> 00:05:04,879 you know, when conservatives walk into like a you know, 106 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:06,720 just say we went on in a view or something 107 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:08,959 like that, like Mack and I. We probably never do 108 00:05:09,079 --> 00:05:11,879 that because it is so hostile. But I find it interesting. 109 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:15,920 You've been in this arena for quite some time, and 110 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:18,720 we have two Actually we've been doing this for gosh, 111 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:21,639 it's been sixteen years now we've been doing this and 112 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:24,759 as chicks on the right, and so we've seen the 113 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:29,920 I guess, just the whole political arena devolve, you know, 114 00:05:29,959 --> 00:05:32,360 because it used to be I'm old enough to remember 115 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:35,000 when people could talk about politics and you could be 116 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:38,680 friends with the liberal you know, and it's different now. Like, 117 00:05:38,759 --> 00:05:40,720 I speak to that a little bit because I know 118 00:05:40,879 --> 00:05:43,480 you're probably friends with like a Van Jones, you're friends 119 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:44,920 with people at CNA. I mean most of the people 120 00:05:44,959 --> 00:05:47,399 at CNN, I imagine are pretty liberal and you have 121 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:49,600 I mean walking in there every day. If you're like 122 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:53,759 the only Republican walking around, it's either going to be 123 00:05:54,079 --> 00:05:57,600 hell every single day to work there, or you are 124 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:00,040 friends with some of these people. And what is that 125 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:03,120 like in today's day and age, where people like you say, 126 00:06:03,519 --> 00:06:06,480 you know, like liberals don't have conservative friends, conservatives don't 127 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:08,959 have liberal friends. Speak to that a little bit. 128 00:06:09,759 --> 00:06:11,720 Speaker 3: Sure, Well, you know, some of my best friends at 129 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:14,920 the network are actually Van Jones and David Axelrod, who 130 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:17,560 are you know, two of our biggest democratic stars, I 131 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:20,399 mean acts as a legend of democratic politics. Van I 132 00:06:20,399 --> 00:06:23,079 think is one of the most thoughtful people in media 133 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:25,639 and what I admire about them both is that they're 134 00:06:25,639 --> 00:06:30,519 both honesty. They debate in good faith, and they're also 135 00:06:30,639 --> 00:06:33,560 willing to tell their own side hard truths, you know, 136 00:06:33,879 --> 00:06:35,879 And I think there's some value in that in the 137 00:06:35,879 --> 00:06:38,079 punditry world. But we the three of us have been 138 00:06:38,079 --> 00:06:41,160 together now for many years, and we've known each other, 139 00:06:41,399 --> 00:06:43,959 we travel together, we spend time off the air together, 140 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:47,120 and I really do value my friendship with them. I 141 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:49,800 think this idea of being able to debate in good 142 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:52,680 faith is vital. Not everybody does that. The other thing 143 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:55,319 that's vital in punditry is you can't take it personally. 144 00:06:55,399 --> 00:06:57,360 You know, you go on the air and you you know, 145 00:06:57,399 --> 00:06:58,920 you do what you do, but you can't you can't 146 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:01,959 take it all personally. I also tell you there. 147 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 1: Do that though, because like the you know, the most 148 00:07:04,399 --> 00:07:06,879 recent example I can think of is when Nira Tandin 149 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:10,120 was on and to us, it seemed very obvious that 150 00:07:10,199 --> 00:07:13,920 you were angry, like you guys were fighting, legit fighting, 151 00:07:14,399 --> 00:07:16,560 And then we noticed that you weren't on the air 152 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:18,319 for a couple of days. We were like, we don't 153 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:21,480 know how the scheduling works, but I don't know how 154 00:07:21,519 --> 00:07:24,000 you recover from, like my blood pressure would be way 155 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:27,519 up here. I don't know how you handle some of 156 00:07:27,959 --> 00:07:30,639 the personalities that get on that panel, because they can. 157 00:07:30,759 --> 00:07:33,639 I don't think they're arguing in good faith, like you said, Well. 158 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:35,879 Speaker 3: Some people don't, and she's one that does not. She 159 00:07:35,959 --> 00:07:38,319 never has. She's one of the nastiest people in Washington, DC, 160 00:07:38,399 --> 00:07:40,240 and anybody who's ever worked with her or against her 161 00:07:40,279 --> 00:07:43,920 will tell you that. And and look, I'm just I'm 162 00:07:43,959 --> 00:07:46,120 not gonna I'm happy to let you know. As you 163 00:07:46,399 --> 00:07:49,120 probably noticed, in my style, I don't really interrupt people, 164 00:07:49,319 --> 00:07:50,720 you know. I tend to think people ought to be 165 00:07:50,759 --> 00:07:53,199 able to say their piece. You know, I get interrupted, 166 00:07:53,279 --> 00:07:55,319 you know, three to five seconds into everything I do, 167 00:07:55,639 --> 00:07:58,160 But I try to let people unspool. But I'll tell 168 00:07:58,160 --> 00:07:59,680 you the one thing I'm not going to do is 169 00:07:59,759 --> 00:08:02,879 let people put words in my mouth, ascribe positions to 170 00:08:02,879 --> 00:08:05,879 me that I don't hold, or otherwise make bad faith 171 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:09,120 arguments about you know, what I think is the general 172 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:11,720 position of the average Republican or the average conservative in 173 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:14,360 the moment, and that's what she excels at. And so yeah, 174 00:08:14,399 --> 00:08:16,240 I was. I was not happy with her. Now do 175 00:08:16,319 --> 00:08:19,959 I get heated like that often. No, but sometimes I 176 00:08:19,959 --> 00:08:21,680 think you have to show people I'm not going to 177 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:24,720 be a pushover. I'm not going to be rolled over here, right. 178 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:28,079 And it's one thing to debate, and it's another thing 179 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:31,639 to act in a totally bad faith manner, which you 180 00:08:31,639 --> 00:08:34,159 know some people do on you know, van and acts. 181 00:08:34,519 --> 00:08:37,039 Never I mean I never walk away from any of 182 00:08:37,039 --> 00:08:39,559 our debates thinking, you know, that really was sort of 183 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:42,679 a nasty move, or that was a you know, a 184 00:08:42,759 --> 00:08:46,600 really underhanded way to engage in that conversation. I never 185 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:49,480 think that about them, but some people do come to 186 00:08:49,519 --> 00:08:52,799 the table and carry that attitude. Look, I try to 187 00:08:52,799 --> 00:08:56,159 take everybody as they are and give them the space 188 00:08:56,159 --> 00:08:58,519 they need to make their arguments. My favorite part of 189 00:08:58,519 --> 00:09:01,600 the job, honestly, is just repeating back to people what 190 00:09:01,799 --> 00:09:05,039 they just said sixty seconds prior and then listening to 191 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:08,480 them say I never said that. You know. It happens 192 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:11,000 every single night. It happens every single night. 193 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 2: I think the way that you argue, though, has hit 194 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:16,240 a nerve with people because you do it in a 195 00:09:16,279 --> 00:09:20,879 way where you are you can beat people down, like 196 00:09:20,919 --> 00:09:23,679 I'm saying this in my daisy way, like you can 197 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:26,440 you can apply a SmackDown on people, but it's in 198 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:30,279 a really nice, sort of gentle way, and that is 199 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:33,919 a it's good for conservatives because you know, like you said, 200 00:09:34,039 --> 00:09:38,440 we've been walked all over for years. We've just kind 201 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:41,039 of sat and taken a lot of crap for a lot. 202 00:09:41,399 --> 00:09:44,600 And we've no doubt we've talked about that for sixteen years. 203 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:45,679 We talked about how we're like, oh. 204 00:09:45,639 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 1: My god, I wish we'd just grab us out of balls. 205 00:09:47,919 --> 00:09:50,879 Speaker 2: And just fight back a little bit and fight fire 206 00:09:50,919 --> 00:09:52,720 with fire with some of these people because we just 207 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:55,159 get walked over a lot. So I think people really 208 00:09:55,159 --> 00:09:58,480 appreciate your style because you're not mean. You're not mean, 209 00:09:58,519 --> 00:10:02,240 and you're not nasty. You do apply a SmackDown when 210 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:02,919 it smacked down, and. 211 00:10:02,879 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 1: There's a little snark that we jo we we tend 212 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:06,480 to be kind of snarky. 213 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:07,679 Speaker 3: Well it has to be, you know, it has to 214 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:08,600 be somewhat entertaining. 215 00:10:08,639 --> 00:10:11,679 Speaker 1: Right, It is totally right, you know. 216 00:10:11,799 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 3: I think the best way to handle these debates is 217 00:10:14,399 --> 00:10:16,759 to show up and know something you know last night 218 00:10:17,639 --> 00:10:20,120 or earlier this week is a is a good example, 219 00:10:20,159 --> 00:10:22,600 this signal story about the national security time they get 220 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:25,399 on the thing, so you know, a lot of people 221 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:26,919 would just come to the table, they would have read 222 00:10:26,919 --> 00:10:29,480 a few tweets, and then they just start spouting off 223 00:10:29,519 --> 00:10:31,639 and and and I hear people all the time go 224 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:34,759 out on limbs saying things they couldn't possibly know whether 225 00:10:34,759 --> 00:10:36,799 it's true or not. So they make assertions. You heard 226 00:10:36,799 --> 00:10:39,600 this about Elon musk Alot. You know, I know he's 227 00:10:39,639 --> 00:10:42,759 a Nazi and this was a Nazi salutor or whatever. No, 228 00:10:42,879 --> 00:10:45,799 you don't, you don't. You don't know that. But how 229 00:10:45,879 --> 00:10:49,559 can you find things out? Pick up the phone, call somebody, 230 00:10:49,919 --> 00:10:52,200 do a little more research than just read the last 231 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:54,879 five tweets in your algorithm. And that's what I do. 232 00:10:54,919 --> 00:10:57,480 So I, you know, I picked up the phone before 233 00:10:57,519 --> 00:10:59,840 that show the other night. I call the National Security Advisor. 234 00:10:59,879 --> 00:11:01,440 I was like, give me your you know, kind of 235 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:04,120 give me your perspective on this. He did. I was 236 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:06,360 able to go on the air and give a pretty 237 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:09,399 straightforward recitation of where I thought they were and the 238 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:11,919 arguments they were planning to make. It turns out most 239 00:11:11,919 --> 00:11:14,039 of that came true in public the next morning, when 240 00:11:14,039 --> 00:11:16,879 Caroline Levitt, the Press Secretary, issued a statement on the matter. 241 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:19,320 That's the best way to do it. Is show up with. 242 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 1: But you were fair too, Yeah, you were fair. And 243 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:24,519 one of the things I mean, you know, with that 244 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:26,919 signal story, we got a lot of flak from our 245 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:30,600 audience for criticizing the fact that it happened. It was 246 00:11:31,039 --> 00:11:33,120 a huge f up, you know what I mean. And 247 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:39,919 your PR guy and Daisy that morning had said, if 248 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:42,919 I had been advising Pete Hegseth, for example, how to 249 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:45,600 answer reporter questions about this, here's what I would have said. 250 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:48,720 And she said, you say the positive upfront, how successful 251 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:51,440 the mission was, but then you own that a mistake 252 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:55,120 happened and that it won't happen again. And nobody did that, 253 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:59,039 And it felt like they were engaged in this gas lighting, 254 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:01,200 which I did not like because I don't like being 255 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:03,559 gas liped by my own side. 256 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:05,679 Speaker 2: They were on the defense rather than being on the offense. 257 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:07,080 And I think that there's a way, like you do 258 00:12:07,159 --> 00:12:09,519 PR and I and I used to do comms for 259 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:11,799 a living, and so I understand that, like you can, 260 00:12:12,159 --> 00:12:14,480 you need to put yourself on that rather than be 261 00:12:14,759 --> 00:12:17,159 like on your you know, on your heels. You need 262 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:18,679 to make sure that you're on the offense with this 263 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:21,000 step and go okay, we totally screwed this up, you guys, 264 00:12:21,039 --> 00:12:22,960 like there is we shouldn't have been. First of all, 265 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:25,279 I don't know how like why are they using signal? 266 00:12:25,399 --> 00:12:27,519 But at the same time I get it, like I 267 00:12:27,519 --> 00:12:32,360 guess they don't have anything that's more technologically like advanced 268 00:12:32,399 --> 00:12:34,240 than saying I don't know, you think they would with 269 00:12:34,279 --> 00:12:36,759 all the tax dollars we give them, but they don't. 270 00:12:36,879 --> 00:12:39,799 But I guess they're spending it on transgender mice, so 271 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:42,360 they have to spend it on really important you know. 272 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:44,120 But I mean this, but this is the thing. They 273 00:12:44,159 --> 00:12:46,600 should have been a little bit more proactive and said, Okay, 274 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:50,279 we probably screwed this up. It won't happen again. But 275 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:53,639 I mean, I see why they're they're showing they're trying 276 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:56,600 to put on display the good things that happen, and 277 00:12:56,759 --> 00:12:58,960 that's the good things we want to be. They listen, 278 00:12:59,039 --> 00:13:01,279 if you look at what they were talking about, I 279 00:13:01,399 --> 00:13:02,919 look at that, and I think, because I know that's 280 00:13:02,919 --> 00:13:05,200 what some people are wanting us to see, I can 281 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:08,480 see where Yeah, they these are good people. They are 282 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:10,000 good people behind. 283 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 3: This m I think I think that if you look 284 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:15,840 at the discussion, it was a thoughtful policy discussion among 285 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:20,000 high level officials about how best to execute the president's 286 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:23,759 direct orders the impacts of those orders. So you know, 287 00:13:23,799 --> 00:13:26,440 when some of these folks were appointed heexth for instance, 288 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:28,080 there was a lot of criticism. They have no idea 289 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:30,360 what they're doing, they don't know anything about. When you 290 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:33,080 look at this discussion, they quite obviously know what they're doing. 291 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:35,960 And if you look at the military operation that took 292 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:39,159 place after that, it was executed with precision, right, and 293 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:40,799 we did what we intended to do. We killed one 294 00:13:40,799 --> 00:13:43,440 of the main bad guys, and we ultimately righted or 295 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:46,360 wrong of the Biden administration, which was to let these pirates, 296 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:50,320 you know, go unimpeded. The fact that they did it 297 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:53,639 on signal, it's a teachable moment, probably won't happen again. 298 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:56,840 Trump the next day said, Mike Wallas is a good man, 299 00:13:56,879 --> 00:13:58,799 and he's learned a lesson from this. Well. Of course, 300 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:00,879 when you make a mistake or you do something you 301 00:14:00,919 --> 00:14:03,840 wish you hadn't done, what's the most important thing. Just 302 00:14:03,919 --> 00:14:06,919 learn a lesson and move forward and continue to do 303 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:09,000 the best job that you can do. I have no problem. 304 00:14:09,039 --> 00:14:10,879 I mean, look, Trump did the right thing here. I 305 00:14:10,919 --> 00:14:13,360 think one of the reasons the Democrats are raging about 306 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:18,000 this is because they are still licking their wounds from Afghanistan. Yep. 307 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:22,240 When Biden went underwater was the day of the disastrous 308 00:14:22,279 --> 00:14:25,200 Afghanistan withdrawal. They had long argued, you know, the adults 309 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:28,759 are back in charge, and that really sunk that talking point. 310 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:32,320 It was tragic people died, and then they treated the 311 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:35,919 American soldiers and their families who died like garbage. Yeah, 312 00:14:36,639 --> 00:14:39,799 and it was, and it left a terrible taste in 313 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:42,879 the mouth of the American people that Democrats don't really 314 00:14:42,919 --> 00:14:46,440 take national security seriously. They're bumbling, they're incompetent, and they 315 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:50,679 disrespect our service members. Fast forward to today. I think 316 00:14:50,759 --> 00:14:53,080 part of the rage is just because they know how 317 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:55,879 wounded their party is going back to Afghanistan, and so 318 00:14:55,919 --> 00:14:59,279 they're constantly grasping to try to change the narrative. The difference, 319 00:14:59,279 --> 00:15:02,320 of course, is here, nobody die. I know, Americans died 320 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:06,480 in this attack. No information was divulge, nothing bad happened. 321 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:10,039 It is a teachable moment, but there's no comparison. I 322 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:13,159 would rather have the ruthless precision of the Trump administration 323 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:17,120 executing against the Huthis versus the bumbling incompetence. Yes, that 324 00:15:17,279 --> 00:15:20,399 Biden displayed on Afghanistan one hundred times out. 325 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 2: Of on you and absolutely and in general, My god, 326 00:15:23,159 --> 00:15:25,399 that guy just had full blown dementia and he was 327 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:28,559 crapping his pants every single day. It's just he was 328 00:15:28,639 --> 00:15:32,279 a disgrace, an absolute disgrace. It's like we're held to 329 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:35,799 a different standard we always have been in everything. 330 00:15:36,559 --> 00:15:40,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think it gives you credibility. And we 331 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:43,679 say this about Van Jones a lot too, that he 332 00:15:43,879 --> 00:15:46,120 is a thoughtful person when it comes to the issues. 333 00:15:46,159 --> 00:15:50,240 He's not just immediately going to go hard left. If 334 00:15:50,279 --> 00:15:52,679 there's criticism to be made on his own side, he 335 00:15:52,759 --> 00:15:55,039 makes it. I think you do that. I think we 336 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:57,679 do that, and I think it's important for conservatives and 337 00:15:58,039 --> 00:16:00,840 whatever side you're on to do that, because otherwise you 338 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:01,799 just look like a shell. 339 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 3: I think Taylor Van, I'll Taylor Van has been really courageous. 340 00:16:05,679 --> 00:16:09,159 You know. I've been wearing the yellow hostage pin since 341 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:12,960 October the seventh. Van was the second person to put 342 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:15,600 it on at the network, and I know takes a 343 00:16:15,759 --> 00:16:20,879 mountain of grief from his own side about his support 344 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:25,960 for Israel, for the hostages, for unequivocally condemning what happened 345 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:29,960 on October the seventh. He has been unwavering, and God 346 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:32,559 bless him. When I see him stand up to that, 347 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:36,000 it really it makes my heart full, because you know, 348 00:16:36,519 --> 00:16:38,639 I honestly, I'll say the same thing about John Fetterman, 349 00:16:38,679 --> 00:16:41,320 who I disagree with on a great many issue. He 350 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:43,279 has stood up to his own party on the issues 351 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:47,559 around October the seventh. There's some value I think in 352 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:52,840 recognizing when your political opposition does the right thing. Now, 353 00:16:52,879 --> 00:16:56,480 I'm just going to say, without hesitation, Van Jones, John Fetterman, 354 00:16:56,559 --> 00:16:59,200 and a handful of Democrats have done the right thing 355 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:03,840 on this is real issue. And you know, in our discourse, 356 00:17:04,079 --> 00:17:07,000 finding people like that is rare. And when you find one, 357 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:09,200 hang on to him because they're obviously good faith act. 358 00:17:09,319 --> 00:17:10,519 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, And I know. 359 00:17:10,599 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 2: And I bet you he's a hugger too, ma, I 360 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:16,519 bet you him would get along beautifully. I'm a hugger, is. 361 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 3: Van Van and I do. We've done a few public 362 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:24,759 speaking engagements together. Going going to a public speaking thing 363 00:17:24,799 --> 00:17:27,240 with a Van is like going with like a religious figure. People. 364 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:29,960 It's crazy, like people come up to him, they want 365 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:32,359 to come and touch the him of his garment, you know, 366 00:17:32,759 --> 00:17:36,880 and uh and and and lay hands on Van And meanwhile, 367 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:39,720 you know, you're just sitting there like, why did this? 368 00:17:40,039 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 1: You know, I think you're about to get that treatment. 369 00:17:47,039 --> 00:17:50,839 I mean, your popularity is exploding. You're now getting you know, 370 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:53,759 promoted by Elon Musk. It doesn't get bigger than that, right, 371 00:17:54,039 --> 00:17:56,279 And I got to ask, I mean, because we want 372 00:17:56,279 --> 00:17:58,720 to know some of the like juicy gossip behind the scenes, 373 00:17:58,759 --> 00:18:01,160 of course, only what you're willing to share. But like, 374 00:18:01,839 --> 00:18:05,200 is Abby mad at how much attention you get because 375 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:07,839 you are the star of your art, the star, I 376 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:09,839 mean you are you are well Abby. 377 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:13,839 Speaker 3: First of all, I love Abby because she has taken 378 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:16,759 on a role here that you know, her show before 379 00:18:16,799 --> 00:18:18,480 this was not like this. It was more of a 380 00:18:18,519 --> 00:18:21,839 standard sort of news panel type show looked a lot 381 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:24,279 like all the rest of the shows. And you know, 382 00:18:24,319 --> 00:18:26,680 they come to you and say, we're gonna totally reorient 383 00:18:26,759 --> 00:18:28,279 your show. We're gonna put it at a round table, 384 00:18:28,319 --> 00:18:29,799 We're gonna put all these people out there and they're 385 00:18:29,799 --> 00:18:32,759 gonna fight, you know, I mean, it must have been 386 00:18:32,799 --> 00:18:34,759 it must have been kind of nerve wracking, honestly to 387 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:37,319 take on something so new in the heat of a 388 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:42,480 presidential campaign, and she did it, and she has presided 389 00:18:42,519 --> 00:18:45,039 over I think the most unique and the best show 390 00:18:45,079 --> 00:18:46,119 on cable television. 391 00:18:46,759 --> 00:18:47,039 Speaker 1: Uh. 392 00:18:47,039 --> 00:18:49,599 Speaker 3: And the numbers reflect it. The ratings are good. People 393 00:18:49,839 --> 00:18:52,240 watch it. I think it creates the most viral moments 394 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:53,000 on show. 395 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:55,519 Speaker 1: Yeah, but you are the reason for that. So I 396 00:18:55,599 --> 00:19:00,440 just wonder if that is weird for her or like, 397 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:02,359 like when you guys get scheduled, because you know, it's 398 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:04,759 different people every night. Sometimes it's sure Michael, who I 399 00:19:04,759 --> 00:19:09,200 also think is amazing. I mean, he's not Scott Jennings, 400 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:12,519 but like, you know, he's great. So when you get scheduled, 401 00:19:12,599 --> 00:19:15,400 are you told in advance? Okay, tonight you're going to 402 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:16,960 be on with so and so and so and so, 403 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:19,680 and like when you hear certain names, are you like. 404 00:19:21,279 --> 00:19:24,079 Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Usually find out who who's 405 00:19:24,079 --> 00:19:27,160 on the show? Like late in the day, okay and so. 406 00:19:27,319 --> 00:19:28,359 Speaker 1: Do you get topics too? 407 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:30,759 Speaker 2: Do you get topics and you can research and stuff 408 00:19:30,759 --> 00:19:31,680 like that. I wonder about that. 409 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:35,160 Speaker 3: So late in the afternoon you start to get through 410 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:37,480 the first version of the topics. But you know what's 411 00:19:37,559 --> 00:19:40,079 interesting about the news cycle right now, is you know, 412 00:19:40,079 --> 00:19:42,160 a lot of things happen between say four o'clock and 413 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:44,599 ten o'clock, and so the topics you get it four, 414 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:47,480 you know, they can be totally different by the time 415 00:19:47,519 --> 00:19:49,759 you get to the air. We certainly had nights where 416 00:19:49,799 --> 00:19:51,880 the topics get thrown out, or at least a couple 417 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:55,519 of them do. And you're dealing with breaking news. Oh yeah, 418 00:19:55,599 --> 00:19:57,599 and you've got to be prepared to react to that. 419 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:01,039 But you know, as a panelist, you don't really have 420 00:20:01,079 --> 00:20:03,400 control over who your fellow panelists are, what the topics 421 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:05,359 are going to be. That those decisions are made by 422 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:07,519 the producers and you show up and you you deal 423 00:20:07,559 --> 00:20:10,960 with it in the moment, and you know, make make 424 00:20:11,079 --> 00:20:12,839 make the most of it. On the scheduling of it, 425 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:15,559 I try to do this show three nights a week, okay, 426 00:20:16,039 --> 00:20:19,160 is kind of my goal. And so usually it's Monday 427 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:22,440 and Tuesday and then Thursday. There are some weeks where 428 00:20:22,559 --> 00:20:24,240 I have other things going on that I have to 429 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:27,480 move things around. Uh. Last week, in fact, I did 430 00:20:27,599 --> 00:20:30,599 Monday and Tuesday, but then I had a speech in Kansas. 431 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:33,000 I got invited by the Kansas Chamber of Commerce, and 432 00:20:33,039 --> 00:20:35,160 then I was going to come back on Thursday, and 433 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:36,559 I was like, you know, I've been home in a while, 434 00:20:36,599 --> 00:20:39,079 so I I probably am. It's back. You know, basketball 435 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:42,519 is on tonight, so anybody really watching the news, the 436 00:20:42,519 --> 00:20:44,640 rest of us will be watching the NCAA tournament. So 437 00:20:44,839 --> 00:20:49,960 that's such an Yeah, I took a I took a day. 438 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:52,559 I took a day last week, but this week, you know, 439 00:20:52,599 --> 00:20:55,160 I did Monday, Tuesday, I was down in DC. On Wednesday, 440 00:20:55,279 --> 00:20:57,160 I did. I was back in New York on Thursday. 441 00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:58,839 That's that's kind of my usual cadence. 442 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I was going to ask, like, how 443 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:03,960 often your home? I mean it's probably like just weekends 444 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:05,279 pretty much, right, Yeah. 445 00:21:05,319 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 3: I try to go home Friday, Saturday, Sunday. Occasionally I'll 446 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:12,400 sneak home on a Thursday. But honestly, over the last 447 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:14,480 few months, in addition to my C and n stuff, 448 00:21:15,079 --> 00:21:17,960 you know, I've gotten a number of public event requests. 449 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,039 I've been able to go speak to a lot of groups, 450 00:21:20,279 --> 00:21:20,920 made a lot of truts. 451 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 1: People are going to want to start feeling your hems. 452 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:27,200 Speaker 3: I know, the very gonna have to put up some 453 00:21:27,319 --> 00:21:33,720 chain link fence around But but and it's been really neat. 454 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:35,759 I was just in Kansas the other day, which was 455 00:21:35,799 --> 00:21:38,720 a fun speech. I was in Houston a couple of 456 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:42,359 weeks ago, I was in Utah recently, so a lot 457 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:45,079 of these are coming in and it's also a lot 458 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:47,160 of fun to go out and talk to the people. 459 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:48,720 I tell you, one thing I hear out on the 460 00:21:48,799 --> 00:21:52,319 road is people love the show, but the way they're 461 00:21:52,319 --> 00:21:54,559 consuming it is interesting. You know, when I started seeing in, 462 00:21:54,799 --> 00:21:57,279 you know, viral clips weren't really a thing yet. 463 00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. 464 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 3: Now you know a lot of people are assuming the 465 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:02,720 content of the show in little clumps, you know, whether 466 00:22:02,759 --> 00:22:05,039 it's something I've put out, or one of these clip 467 00:22:05,079 --> 00:22:07,279 aggregators has put out, or you know, a lot of 468 00:22:07,279 --> 00:22:09,680 news is generated on the show. So I've been kind 469 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:12,960 of fascinated to see how people are consuming you know, 470 00:22:13,039 --> 00:22:15,440 the content, and it's an hour show, but sometimes you know, 471 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:17,519 two or three minutes. You know, catches all the attention 472 00:22:17,559 --> 00:22:19,799 on any given night, But you know, getting out and 473 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,039 talking to people, listening to people and hearing how they're 474 00:22:22,039 --> 00:22:25,559 consuming it has been instructive to me on how best 475 00:22:25,599 --> 00:22:26,079 to do the job. 476 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:28,759 Speaker 2: That's awesome. Yeah, we really are because our community means 477 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:31,799 everything to us too, So we're all about getting out 478 00:22:31,799 --> 00:22:34,839 there and not that we're famous like you, but oh 479 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:35,200 you are. 480 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 3: If my text messages are any indication you are not. 481 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:42,839 Probably the three most famous women in North America every day. 482 00:22:42,839 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 1: We walk around all the time. 483 00:22:44,039 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 2: People don't know who we are. No, seriously, I have 484 00:22:46,279 --> 00:22:49,359 a question that is super personal, So if it gets cut, 485 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:51,599 I won't have my feelings hurt. But I'm super I'm 486 00:22:51,599 --> 00:22:54,799 interested in this because I'm really interested in like health 487 00:22:54,839 --> 00:22:56,680 and fitness and all that kind of stuff. And you 488 00:22:56,759 --> 00:22:59,480 have had a major glow up. Not that you weren't 489 00:22:59,599 --> 00:23:03,119 completely hot before Scott Jennings, but you have had a 490 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:03,759 glow up over. 491 00:23:03,839 --> 00:23:06,559 Speaker 1: I couldn't sert a perr here if I could do it. 492 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:08,680 Speaker 2: But you've had a glow up over the past couple 493 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:10,519 of years, and I'm curious as to what you did 494 00:23:10,559 --> 00:23:13,480 and how you continue to be in such great shape, 495 00:23:13,559 --> 00:23:16,799 especially since you do travel a lot. What do you do, like, 496 00:23:16,839 --> 00:23:17,720 what is your regimen? 497 00:23:17,759 --> 00:23:18,440 Speaker 1: How do you do that? 498 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,640 Speaker 3: Yeah? Great question. I've been I've been pretty open about it. 499 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,240 So I struggled with my weight for a good chunk 500 00:23:24,279 --> 00:23:27,480 of my life. Didn't really know much about it how 501 00:23:27,519 --> 00:23:30,039 to manage it, you know, really, until I was long 502 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:34,680 into my adult ears. And yeah, I've had people in 503 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:36,480 my family that have struggled with the same thing. It's 504 00:23:36,519 --> 00:23:40,240 not uncommon. But I discovered a few years ago the 505 00:23:40,279 --> 00:23:45,960 magic of intermittent fasting and okay, stop eating garbage. These 506 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:49,440 are the two things p Good have known. But I 507 00:23:49,559 --> 00:23:53,000 discovered intermittent fasting and really kind of just cutting out. 508 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:54,640 Speaker 2: The sugar, okay, all right. 509 00:23:54,759 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 3: And so during my life when I have wanted to 510 00:23:57,559 --> 00:24:01,319 lose weight, which has been neces seria at times, I 511 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:03,400 just I engage in a little bit of an intermissing 512 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:07,640 intermittent fasting regimen, and I tried desperately to limit the sugar. 513 00:24:07,799 --> 00:24:10,640 I know sugar is an addiction. I know I don't 514 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:13,039 want a cookie. I want ted cookie. And you just 515 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:17,400 have to know that about yourself. And it's not easy. 516 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:19,400 I mean, there are people I run into folks out 517 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,599 there who who tell me I struggle with the same thing. Yep. 518 00:24:23,319 --> 00:24:27,039 Intermittent fasting has been a good tool for me to 519 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:30,319 help control some of the issues that I have. And 520 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:33,440 over the last several months, I lost I think I 521 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:38,400 lost about sixty pounds honestly, right yeah, right before the conventions, 522 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:40,240 I think i'd gotten up to about two hundred and 523 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:42,720 forty pounds, to be honest, And I didn't, you know, 524 00:24:42,799 --> 00:24:44,400 I didn't feel great. I didn't love the way. And 525 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:46,039 it's the one thing about being on television you get 526 00:24:46,039 --> 00:24:49,359 to see your own fat face on. It's like motivating. 527 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,359 But I just I knew, But I knew I was 528 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,480 off the rails, like I was not following what I 529 00:24:54,559 --> 00:24:56,519 knew to be a healthful protocol for me. 530 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:57,519 Speaker 2: Yeah. 531 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:00,880 Speaker 3: So I got back on the wagon and got back 532 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:05,079 into my intermittent fasting regimen, and I woke up earlier 533 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:06,839 this week at one eighty point zero on the dot. 534 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:12,359 Speaker 1: So for you, so you, how's your family reacting to 535 00:25:12,839 --> 00:25:15,799 the new attention, because I mean, within this last year 536 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:19,759 you've exploded in popularity. Is do your kids get that 537 00:25:19,799 --> 00:25:22,920 you're famous? Is your is your wife like back off 538 00:25:23,039 --> 00:25:24,880 chicks start herring in him? 539 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:28,160 Speaker 3: Right right? Yeah, I get it. I get a daily 540 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:29,920 report on your old's commentary. 541 00:25:31,799 --> 00:25:36,160 Speaker 1: Tell her that we are happily married and like very harmless. 542 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:37,519 We are harmless for sure. 543 00:25:37,759 --> 00:25:42,279 Speaker 3: Yes, the kids are interesting. I have four kids, fifteen, eleven, nine, 544 00:25:42,319 --> 00:25:46,000 and seven. One of the four of them, my eleven 545 00:25:46,039 --> 00:25:48,640 year old, I think, is quite interested in what I do. 546 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:51,640 My fifteen year old has a teacher at his high 547 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:55,359 school who follows some of my commentary, so he's I 548 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:57,839 think he's experienced in his and his friends on the 549 00:25:57,839 --> 00:26:01,319 baseball team, you know, see a lot of things on YouTube. Yeah, 550 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:04,160 and they're like, oh, so. So the barometer by which 551 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,400 my oldest believes I am either doing a good or 552 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:09,000 a bad job is this if he goes to school 553 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:12,200 and his friends like, oh, your dad totally got owned 554 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:15,960 on CNN last night, or no, your dad totally laid 555 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,759 the smack down on somebody. So my oldest barometer of 556 00:26:19,039 --> 00:26:22,319 whether I'm failing as a human comes purely from his 557 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:24,440 friend's interpretation of the latest YouTube. 558 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,319 Speaker 1: God, I have a fifteen year old too, so I 559 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:28,279 totally can relate. 560 00:26:28,519 --> 00:26:30,640 Speaker 3: I can. Yeah. So that's been an interesting way to 561 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:35,359 experience that. But they're all really good boys, all four boys, 562 00:26:35,519 --> 00:26:37,720 and they're good kids, and they put up with a lot. 563 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:39,240 They put up with the travel. 564 00:26:39,319 --> 00:26:41,079 Speaker 2: They also put up at the age of Scott, you 565 00:26:41,079 --> 00:26:42,519 have fifteen, eleven. 566 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:46,160 Speaker 3: Nine, and seven. Oh my gosh, how fine. Yeah, and 567 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,119 a lot of destruction in the Jennings household. 568 00:26:48,559 --> 00:26:51,599 Speaker 2: Gosh, that is a lot of testosterone for your wife 569 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:52,559 God bless her. 570 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:56,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, and we have chickens. Like do you have other 571 00:26:56,599 --> 00:26:59,759 like estrogen bearing animals. 572 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,839 Speaker 2: Like nice were like a female dog or something in 573 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:02,319 the house. 574 00:27:02,519 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 3: Okay, we have a we have a pug named Fiona, 575 00:27:05,759 --> 00:27:09,039 and you all know we have a bulldog named Elvis, 576 00:27:09,079 --> 00:27:11,519 which I saw. I saw your commentary. But I know 577 00:27:11,519 --> 00:27:14,079 you don't like smash based dogs, but she does. 578 00:27:16,279 --> 00:27:19,400 Speaker 2: Mariam is a bulldogs fan, which makes no sense. George 579 00:27:19,799 --> 00:27:22,319 went to Georgia. This is not okay for her not 580 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:23,960 to like bulldogs, right. 581 00:27:24,519 --> 00:27:26,559 Speaker 3: So we have two smash faced dogs, you know, Bulldog 582 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,200 and Plug. But we have and then we have a 583 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,920 little terrier named Baxter who we rescued some years ago. 584 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,920 And we have a female bearded dragon, or at least 585 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,039 we believe it's a female. That's what the vet told 586 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:36,799 us years ago. 587 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 1: No, yeah, how did you end up with that? Like? 588 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:41,880 What was is that one of the kids? 589 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:44,160 Speaker 3: Yes, when my fifteen year old was like seven, he 590 00:27:44,279 --> 00:27:46,440 was desperate for a bearded Well, first of all, he 591 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:48,480 was desperate for a snake, which we got him a 592 00:27:48,519 --> 00:27:54,400 snake which promptly escaped from the terrarium and and visited 593 00:27:54,960 --> 00:28:00,240 my wife in the bathroom one morning it's the true story. 594 00:28:00,279 --> 00:28:02,920 I then went on a trip during I come back 595 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,680 from the trip and I come in and you know, 596 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,160 there's just a lot of somberness in the kitchen. I'm like, 597 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,759 what is going on in here? Like, well, the snake died, 598 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:13,039 Like what do you mean? My wife said, well, we 599 00:28:13,039 --> 00:28:15,319 gave it a bath. I'm like, you gave it a bath. 600 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,319 And it turns out I'm pretty sure she just murdered 601 00:28:19,319 --> 00:28:21,599 the snake. Yeah, under the guys of giving it a 602 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:23,960 bath or whatever. So the snake went away. That then 603 00:28:24,079 --> 00:28:27,680 led to the bearded dragon, which we've had now for 604 00:28:27,799 --> 00:28:30,920 many years, and that I take care of the kids. Yeah, 605 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,519 we take care of so. But the vet early on 606 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,599 told us she thought it was a female bearded dragon. 607 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:41,440 So long story short, female beardi, female pug, thirty something 608 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,640 chickens that are all females. We had a rooster one. Yeah, 609 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:48,000 it was not great we having a rooster. If you're 610 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:49,960 a backyard chicken farmer, I know I have. 611 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 1: I had a rooster. 612 00:28:51,119 --> 00:28:52,720 Speaker 2: I used to be a backyard chicken farmer right. 613 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 3: Now, him and our rooster literally would not stop humping 614 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:00,279 the chickens, like literally twenty four hours. 615 00:29:00,319 --> 00:29:01,119 Speaker 1: They are dicks. 616 00:29:01,359 --> 00:29:05,559 Speaker 3: They are, I mean this, So it was constant harassment. 617 00:29:05,599 --> 00:29:08,279 I named this rooster Cuomo at the time because it 618 00:29:08,359 --> 00:29:12,160 was constantly harassing its coworkers. It would not shut the 619 00:29:12,359 --> 00:29:15,680 f up. And so I took the rooster to a 620 00:29:15,759 --> 00:29:18,640 chicken swap and I traded it for like three hens. 621 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:20,359 And so anyway, no more roosters in the gen. 622 00:29:20,799 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 2: They're not a salty They're just mean, you know what 623 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:27,279 I mean, they are one of the useless. Yeah, and loud. 624 00:29:27,359 --> 00:29:29,119 Speaker 3: They don't they don't they're not they're not. And I 625 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:32,640 don't fertilize eggs. We just eat the eggs. We collect that, 626 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:35,640 we eat the eggs. I'm not hatching chickens. I don't 627 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:37,359 really need its rooster. 628 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,839 Speaker 2: Nobody does. We love men. I just I mean, I 629 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,640 you know, but I become very much of a feminist, 630 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:45,440 a weird feminist when it comes to roosters. 631 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 1: You know, it's like they're not needed. 632 00:29:47,559 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, these chickens I had got so mad because and 633 00:29:51,079 --> 00:29:54,480 like the slower chickens could not get away from Cuomo, 634 00:29:55,279 --> 00:29:59,119 and so they were just constantly being harassed and worse 635 00:29:59,359 --> 00:30:03,680 and just assaulted. And you know, I have like plump 636 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,200 laying hens and they were just they're not fast. They're 637 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:07,480 not fast enough to escape, so. 638 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:11,119 Speaker 1: I guess, and they're not interested eighty six the rooster. Yeah, 639 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,119 so are you? Is there any chance that we're going 640 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:16,359 to see a Scott Jennings hosted show, like is that? 641 00:30:16,839 --> 00:30:18,839 Is that a possibility that you're going to get your 642 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:20,920 own gig at some point on CNN? 643 00:30:21,759 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 3: I don't know about that. I think the network is 644 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:28,720 going through some evolution when it comes to different kinds 645 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,559 of content they're producing. You could see in the future 646 00:30:32,119 --> 00:30:36,799 more digital only content, maybe some podcasts that they decide 647 00:30:36,799 --> 00:30:39,960 to produce. It's a it's a discussion that we've had about, 648 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,000 you know, what else can we do here with this 649 00:30:42,039 --> 00:30:45,240 political team that we've assembled, And so, you know, I 650 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,599 don't I don't really have anything specific to say about it, 651 00:30:47,599 --> 00:30:51,200 other than to say CNN is my home. I'm actually 652 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:53,640 I've really told anybody this, but I'll tell you I'm 653 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:55,480 in the process of re signing with the network for 654 00:30:55,519 --> 00:30:56,799 another three years. 655 00:30:56,799 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 1: Amazing. 656 00:30:57,880 --> 00:30:59,079 Speaker 3: It was in the news. It was in the news 657 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,640 that I never really affirmative, but it is true. I'm 658 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:05,039 gonna stick with them for the long haul and we'll 659 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:07,359 we'll see what that entails. I would do anything for 660 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,079 them they asked me to do. They've been really good 661 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:12,319 to me. They hired me, you know, back in twenty seventeen, 662 00:31:12,359 --> 00:31:14,359 and they've given me all this space to perform and 663 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,640 to do my job. So I'm really really happy with them. 664 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 1: And what would you say to people that like, Because 665 00:31:20,279 --> 00:31:21,880 we've got a lot of folks in our audience who 666 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:27,160 are just as you might imagine, virulently anti CNN, anti MSNBC. 667 00:31:27,319 --> 00:31:30,279 They're convinced that it's all fake news. What would you 668 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:33,240 say to them to change their mind? 669 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,839 Speaker 3: I think CNN, especially with the ten o'clock Show, is 670 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:40,720 doing its level best to present a debating format that 671 00:31:40,799 --> 00:31:45,000 allows a conservative to go on there and make the 672 00:31:45,039 --> 00:31:46,960 case for what half, for more than half of the 673 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:48,880 country is thinking and feeling. I don't think you're going 674 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,400 to get that really anywhere else in the media. So 675 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:54,359 I can't speak for MSNBC other than to say that 676 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:58,880 the clips of that I see are totally unhinged. But 677 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:03,079 for CNN, I do think they understand the value of 678 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:08,200 having perspectives from Americans from across the political spectrum. And yes, 679 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:11,359 it does probably feel lopsided at times on the panels 680 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,720 and so on and so forth. But I've never been censored. 681 00:32:14,759 --> 00:32:16,640 I've never been handed a script and said you must 682 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:19,160 read this. I've never been told you can't make this 683 00:32:19,279 --> 00:32:22,200 argument or that argument. All I've ever been told is 684 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:24,880 be your authentic self, give us the lay of the 685 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:28,799 land for the average Republican, and will react accordingly. And 686 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:32,519 that's honestly what we've done. Interestingly, about that ten o'clock show, 687 00:32:32,759 --> 00:32:34,720 there really are no scripts, you know, when you hear 688 00:32:34,759 --> 00:32:38,000 these debates, I'm not reading anything off a telephont. These 689 00:32:38,039 --> 00:32:42,039 are in the moment debates reacting to what is essentially 690 00:32:42,119 --> 00:32:45,720 breaking news. And I think that authenticity and the willingness 691 00:32:45,759 --> 00:32:49,200 to put people with multiple perspectives out there is what 692 00:32:49,319 --> 00:32:51,279 is selling. I think it's selling in our politics. I 693 00:32:51,279 --> 00:32:54,599 think authenticity is the coin of the realm of public 694 00:32:54,599 --> 00:32:57,519 communications right now, and so the people who are getting 695 00:32:57,559 --> 00:33:01,279 response from audience are the people who are authentically presenting 696 00:33:01,359 --> 00:33:03,799 a point of view. And for CNN, I think recognize 697 00:33:03,799 --> 00:33:06,200 that and make a show of it is a good 698 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,079 reason to watch it, and so I would encourage you 699 00:33:08,119 --> 00:33:10,720 to come on back in. I think I think I 700 00:33:10,759 --> 00:33:13,640 think you'll enjoy it, and I'll certainly keep it as entertaining. 701 00:33:14,119 --> 00:33:16,559 Speaker 2: I think that's a great point, the authenticity thing. And 702 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:20,000 do you think that legacy media, because of all of 703 00:33:20,039 --> 00:33:23,759 it's sort of a propaganda slant over the past, you know, 704 00:33:23,839 --> 00:33:26,000 many years, has taken a hit because of the lack 705 00:33:26,039 --> 00:33:29,039 of authenticity. I mean, I think if I hear you 706 00:33:29,079 --> 00:33:30,839 on the CNN thing, I think they're probably maybe a 707 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:34,000 little bit different than the MSNBC's or maybe the CBS 708 00:33:34,079 --> 00:33:36,240 is or the ABCS. But do you think that's why 709 00:33:36,319 --> 00:33:39,400 they've taken such a hit is because they aren't authentic, 710 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,000 because they are so scripted, because they get the talking 711 00:33:42,039 --> 00:33:45,240 points like that it's a constitutional crisis and it's a 712 00:33:45,279 --> 00:33:48,200 threat to democracy, and like what is it like this week? 713 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:50,599 Speaker 1: I don't know, there's always just right. 714 00:33:50,799 --> 00:33:53,119 Speaker 2: It's like there's always something you hear all over the 715 00:33:53,119 --> 00:33:55,440 they all say the same things. It's like American people 716 00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,079 are smarter than that shut up, you know, so we 717 00:33:58,119 --> 00:33:59,720 hear a lot. Do you think that's why they've taken 718 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:01,640 such a I think. 719 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:05,079 Speaker 3: The hit has come from well, frankly, getting things wrong 720 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:09,360 number one and number two being more interested in narratives 721 00:34:09,559 --> 00:34:12,079 than just the facts of any situation. I mean, you 722 00:34:12,119 --> 00:34:14,920 look at over time, you know, the big stories in 723 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:18,519 our culture, a narrative forms. I said this on Election 724 00:34:18,599 --> 00:34:21,239 Night on CNN after Trump and won, that I thought 725 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:23,519 the election last year was an indictment of the political 726 00:34:23,599 --> 00:34:26,880 information distribution complex. And you look at all the narratives 727 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:30,360 that were formed and pushed during the campaign that all 728 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,480 turned out to be true, and anybody with half a 729 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,719 brain could tell they were not true, that this was 730 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:37,840 not really you know, how the election was going, and 731 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,199 yet you were force fed narratives to try to make 732 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:43,280 you believe that that's how it was going. And now 733 00:34:43,559 --> 00:34:45,639 we have access to so much more information than we've 734 00:34:45,679 --> 00:34:49,760 ever had. We've sort of a democratized information distribution system 735 00:34:50,159 --> 00:34:53,519 that puts pressure to me on mainstream media to do 736 00:34:53,639 --> 00:34:58,679 less narratives and more authentic facts. And I think it's 737 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,840 ultimately some people are going to learn the lesson and 738 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:05,159 some people aren't. But I really think the reason you've 739 00:35:05,159 --> 00:35:09,000 seen in the Gallop poll and other measurements for the 740 00:35:09,039 --> 00:35:11,920 media to take such a hit, it's just people don't 741 00:35:12,039 --> 00:35:14,199 like the narratives. They would rather know what's going on. 742 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,480 They don't mind other points of view, but they don't 743 00:35:17,519 --> 00:35:19,920 want They also don't want to feel demonized for disagreeing 744 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:20,199 with that. 745 00:35:20,119 --> 00:35:22,239 Speaker 1: Point, right, And they don't want the point of views 746 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:25,440 to be like packaged in the same wrapping paper on 747 00:35:25,599 --> 00:35:28,559 every single channel by every single talking head. And I 748 00:35:28,559 --> 00:35:30,679 think that it's not even just the mainstream media that's 749 00:35:30,679 --> 00:35:34,000 taking the hit. It's Democrats who are in a massive 750 00:35:34,039 --> 00:35:38,360 identity crisis. They cannot figure out where what their lane 751 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:41,360 is and so they're on the struggle bus big time. 752 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:42,960 And I don't know if they're going to end up 753 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,840 going the ways of Jasmin Crockett and AOC or if 754 00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:49,159 they're going to moderate a little bit. What do you 755 00:35:49,159 --> 00:35:51,679 think is going to take what would make them win? Like, 756 00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:53,239 what's the better option for them? 757 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,440 Speaker 3: The best option would be to find people who aren't lunatics, 758 00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,920 who have the ability to speak, you know, from the heart, 759 00:36:00,039 --> 00:36:03,239 and have an authentic point of view, and not hate 760 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,440 them because they might deviate on an issue. I mean, 761 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:08,719 I've lately it's interesting Fetterman, who I mentioned earlier. I 762 00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:10,480 think he's their most authentic guy. I was not a 763 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,239 fan of him during the campaign. I really thought that 764 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,679 was a strange way that Senate campaign unfolded. But I 765 00:36:15,679 --> 00:36:18,159 had been so impressed with him and he appears to 766 00:36:18,199 --> 00:36:21,920 me to speak authentically and in a way that regular 767 00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,880 people can understand. He doesn't engage in the political pablum, 768 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,119 which I think is one of the Trumps superpowers. He 769 00:36:27,199 --> 00:36:30,079 kind of he started the war on pablom and twenty 770 00:36:30,119 --> 00:36:33,000 twenty four kind of finished it. But you look at 771 00:36:33,039 --> 00:36:35,920 when Fetterman gets off the reservation, gets out of line, 772 00:36:36,039 --> 00:36:38,119 they go after him like crazy. They get him no 773 00:36:38,159 --> 00:36:41,360 space to do that. So what appears to me right 774 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:44,039 now is that Jasmine Crockett is the unquestioned leader of 775 00:36:44,079 --> 00:36:47,159 the Democratic Party. Oh my gosh, he is here and 776 00:36:48,079 --> 00:36:51,079 then and then what you see are people following along 777 00:36:51,079 --> 00:36:56,679 and acting accordingly. So her her kind of hate speech, 778 00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,559 I think, against Republicans and against people who don't vote 779 00:36:59,559 --> 00:37:02,000 for demicrats gets picked up on by other people like 780 00:37:02,079 --> 00:37:05,119 Jimmy Kimmel, the comedian who the other night was cheering 781 00:37:05,159 --> 00:37:07,360 on the attacks on Tesla dealerships. 782 00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, and so the audience. 783 00:37:09,559 --> 00:37:12,199 Speaker 3: And that was that was my next point. Listen to 784 00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:16,760 the audience. They were enraptured by the idea that these 785 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,719 violent attacks were taking place. You saw the same thing 786 00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:22,199 on the Daily Show. You had an audience full of 787 00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:25,280 people who were just roaring at the thought that, yeah, 788 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:28,519 we're gonna go out and be violent. That appears to 789 00:37:28,559 --> 00:37:30,719 me to be the way the Democrats are headed. It's 790 00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:32,760 sort of you know, we've always known they were kind 791 00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:35,519 of sort of emotionally unstable mobs. That's kind of the 792 00:37:35,519 --> 00:37:38,920 constituency group of the Democratic Party. Now you can add 793 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:43,320 violent mobs to that. And I don't know that they're 794 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:46,400 going to stop because there's an there's a cheering audience 795 00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:49,400 that loves it. They love it. I mean Chuck Schumer, 796 00:37:49,559 --> 00:37:52,559 who I dislike intensely the other day couldn't even have 797 00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:57,159 a book tour event because he's afraid of his own people, right, 798 00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:00,000 He's afraid. He was he was afraid of his own 799 00:38:00,199 --> 00:38:03,639 people going to a book tour event. So there's a 800 00:38:03,639 --> 00:38:10,039 lot of emotional unhinged and ultimately, I think people with 801 00:38:10,119 --> 00:38:13,679 violent tendencies who are ascendant on the left right now, 802 00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:16,599 and I think that's where the energy and their party is, 803 00:38:16,639 --> 00:38:18,119 and I think it'll be to their detriment. Look at 804 00:38:18,119 --> 00:38:20,039 their poll numbers. I mean they're at the lowest polling 805 00:38:20,119 --> 00:38:23,280 in fifty years, totally because I think average people, I don't, 806 00:38:23,639 --> 00:38:26,159 you know, I don't I don't need to be screamed at. 807 00:38:26,199 --> 00:38:27,920 I don't need to be have my car keyed, and 808 00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:29,960 I don't need you to tell me how wrong in 809 00:38:30,039 --> 00:38:32,320 rotten in the United States is. I just, you know, 810 00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:33,840 I just want to live my life and have a 811 00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:34,639 competent government. 812 00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, because everything is so based on hate. They don't 813 00:38:37,679 --> 00:38:40,679 have policy, but they have. I hate Trump, I hate 814 00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:42,920 Elon And it's like, I can tell you what I'm against, 815 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:44,440 I just can't tell you what we're for. 816 00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:46,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, what I'll tell you what they're for. And what 817 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:50,599 troubles me the most is they'refore silencing anybody who disagrees. 818 00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:53,639 I think part of the whole Kimmel thing the other 819 00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:56,920 night was, you know, this wasn't him just cheering it on. 820 00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:02,440 It was effectively marching orders and the messages silence yourselves, 821 00:39:02,559 --> 00:39:04,679 or we'll do it for you. And that's what the 822 00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:07,320 left ultimately wants conservatives to do. They want you to 823 00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:10,480 go away, they want you to shut up. They want 824 00:39:10,519 --> 00:39:14,840 you to effectively cease any activity in the public square. 825 00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:16,840 That's what they want. They want to yell at you, 826 00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:18,519 they want to talk over you. And if you won't 827 00:39:18,559 --> 00:39:20,760 accept that, okay, now we're going to take it to 828 00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,679 the next level that is effectively how they operate and 829 00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:24,400 then they call us. 830 00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:33,039 Speaker 1: Yes and strategy that can't be a winning strategy to people. Yeah, 831 00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:34,960 I was gonna say, I have to hope that there's 832 00:39:35,079 --> 00:39:38,400 way more normies out here on both sides of the 833 00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:42,239 aisle than there are the fringe edges. But man, those 834 00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:43,320 fringes are loud. 835 00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:46,400 Speaker 3: They are loud and uh and and they're ascendant. And 836 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,960 I mean, just in your own news diets, who do 837 00:39:50,079 --> 00:39:53,079 you see the most Oh yeah, you see Crocket, you 838 00:39:53,159 --> 00:39:57,400 see AOC, you see Maxine Waters. I mean, you see 839 00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:00,320 the people on the left who are willing to say 840 00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:04,920 the most radical, fascist things. They're the ones who who 841 00:40:05,039 --> 00:40:07,599 have the energy. They're the ones who are getting the airtime. 842 00:40:07,639 --> 00:40:09,360 They're the ones who are the most aggressive. Right now, 843 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:12,400 I feel like the normies in the Democratic Party are 844 00:40:12,679 --> 00:40:15,039 receding and they're afraid, you know, they don't know what 845 00:40:15,159 --> 00:40:16,840 to do. And some of the ones that I think 846 00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:19,239 are normies are trying to play act like they are 847 00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:22,519 also you know, sort of radical, you know, people with 848 00:40:22,639 --> 00:40:24,760 violent tendencies, but they just sort of come off looking like, 849 00:40:25,119 --> 00:40:27,000 you know, idiots when they do it. I mean, you 850 00:40:27,039 --> 00:40:28,519 can't authentically act like that. 851 00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:32,639 Speaker 1: It's like Chuck Schumer grilling a burger lel authenticity. 852 00:40:33,519 --> 00:40:35,719 Speaker 3: Yes, and so then so those people sort of end 853 00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,840 up looking like buffoons. Yeah, they're in a mess. They're 854 00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:41,760 on a true identity crisis right now, and the only 855 00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:43,400 thing they know to do in reaction to it is 856 00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:47,079 to yell louder and blow things up. And you know, 857 00:40:47,159 --> 00:40:49,519 I just don't think it's the winning strategy. Luck with that, Yeah, 858 00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:50,800 not a winning strategy. 859 00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:53,880 Speaker 1: Well, Scott Jennings, We're not going to take too much 860 00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:57,000 more of your time. This has been so fun, but 861 00:40:57,119 --> 00:41:00,960 I'm so appreciative of us. Yes, our audience is going 862 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:02,920 to just lose their minds happiness. 863 00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:05,480 Speaker 3: I'm grateful for you. I'm grateful for your audience who 864 00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:07,599 I hear from on a on a regular basis. I 865 00:41:07,679 --> 00:41:10,239 really appreciate what you all do on your show every 866 00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:12,119 day and the dedication. I know how hard it is 867 00:41:12,199 --> 00:41:14,840 to produce content every day and stay on top of 868 00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:16,840 the news and and and it's what you all do 869 00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:20,719 is extremely fun. It's funny, it's professionally done, and I 870 00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:23,920 think it's a real value to the conservative you. 871 00:41:25,199 --> 00:41:26,159 Speaker 1: Professional is not. 872 00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:33,000 Speaker 2: Endorsement this, We're definitely we're definitely not professional, but we 873 00:41:33,159 --> 00:41:35,480 appreciate you and hope you can come back on the 874 00:41:35,519 --> 00:41:36,000 show again. 875 00:41:36,039 --> 00:41:40,519 Speaker 1: Real sim yeah, thank you, thank you.