Speaker 1: It's time for coffee and company, fueled by Thornton's on
Speaker 1: Sports Talk seven nine day. Now here's Nick coffee.
Speaker 2: All right, let's get it started. It's not four o'clock.
Speaker 2: It's four o five. We're a little late, but that's
Speaker 2: that's all due to my poor clock management. But that's okay.
Speaker 2: What I try to tell myself whenever we do, in
Speaker 2: fact get the four o'clock in five o'clock hours started,
Speaker 2: you know, closer to five than actually right at the top,
Speaker 2: I just tell myself, well, hey, maybe people have like
Speaker 2: a three four minute walk to their car, you know,
Speaker 2: so maybe they're just hoping. Maybe it's all strategic.
Speaker 3: That's not a bad way to think about it. I mean,
Speaker 3: using KSR start at five.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they've got like network stuff. I think. Actually I
Speaker 2: don't know, because they're now their clock got a little
Speaker 2: bit different. It was like last year or something like
Speaker 2: it was when they moved I think whenever they moved
Speaker 2: over here to seven ninety from ten eighty. So and
Speaker 2: their breaks I think they may have more, but their
Speaker 2: breaks are not as long. What would you rather? I mean,
Speaker 2: if you are producing or hosting John, would you rather
Speaker 2: have shorter breaks? But an extra you know, shorter breaks
Speaker 2: but more of them, or longer breaks but lengthier segments.
Speaker 3: Longer breaks for sure, because when you have the short breaks,
Speaker 3: you don't have much time to.
Speaker 2: Do things in between. I'm just not I'm not built
Speaker 2: for that. I'm not good enough to be able to
Speaker 2: really get what I want out of a ten minute
Speaker 2: segment or something like that. Which it's really just because
Speaker 2: I've for the last nine years I've done a three
Speaker 2: hour show not completely by myself. And I hate when
Speaker 2: I say that sometimes because it's not just me. But
Speaker 2: you know, when it comes to just drive the show
Speaker 2: in regards to what's going to be discussed, it has
Speaker 2: mostly been myself along with with John and Matt and whatnot.
Speaker 2: But I just you, right out of the gate, I knew, hey,
Speaker 2: I got a first thing I got to figure out
Speaker 2: is how can how can I fill this time? Like
Speaker 2: how can I comfortably run a three hour program with
Speaker 2: you know, like how can I how can I format it?
Speaker 2: And then it's like, okay, well, now that I've got
Speaker 2: to feel for how I'm going to be able to
Speaker 2: at least get through the segments. Now I got to
Speaker 2: try to make them interesting, entertaining and all that, and
Speaker 2: I'm still a work in progress, I'm sure in the
Speaker 2: eyes of some. But yeah, like if I ever if
Speaker 2: I ever ended up on a station with a different
Speaker 2: format as far as how they do breaks and whatnot,
Speaker 2: and and you know, if they're really strict, like we
Speaker 2: don't have a heart out until we end the show, right, yes,
Speaker 2: and that that benefits me, right, but that isn't always
Speaker 2: the case for a lot of people. Like if I
Speaker 2: had a herd out, and for those who don't know
Speaker 2: what a heart out is, it just means that there's
Speaker 2: no there's there's no flexibility, You're you're you can you'll
Speaker 2: be talking. I mean, in fact, it does happen at
Speaker 2: times on KSR when they have guests on because like
Speaker 2: the heart out, I think it's what they say, is
Speaker 2: it stops for no man, Like you can just be yapping,
Speaker 2: doesn't matter. They're gonna go to break at that time.
Speaker 2: If you're mid sentence, if you're in the middle of
Speaker 2: yelling at somebody, if you're crying telling a sad story,
Speaker 2: like nope, sorry, the break is starting. Like that's just
Speaker 2: that's just how it works. So if I had that,
Speaker 2: I might be a little more disciplined as far as
Speaker 2: how I utilized the time. But you know, at this point,
Speaker 2: if I was going to to make a you know,
Speaker 2: a big, big improvement, I probably would have already done it.
Speaker 3: When did you get you know, were you did you
Speaker 3: fall victim to the heart out?
Speaker 2: No, because at that time, by the time we got there,
Speaker 2: I had already learned through Billy and the producer that like,
Speaker 2: you know, keep a little brief like you know, like
Speaker 2: because I'm just so used to, you know, not having
Speaker 2: to worry about that. I had somebody ask me this
Speaker 2: the day, like if I ever like wish I had
Speaker 2: a co host, and I never really think about it
Speaker 2: because really, since I've worked here at seven ninety, rather
Speaker 2: it be mornings, mid days, or afternoons like we are
Speaker 2: right now, I've never had a co host per se
Speaker 2: as far as somebody that is bringing content and topics
Speaker 2: to the table that you know, like they're prepping for.
Speaker 2: But it's not as if I'm the only person sharing
Speaker 2: opinions and talking about you know, the obvious. So I
Speaker 2: kind of feel like I've had, you know, enough help.
Speaker 2: But you know, if all of a sudden they just
Speaker 2: brought somebody in here and he or she got to
Speaker 2: decide half of what we're going to discuss and I
Speaker 2: got to decide the other half. In a way, it
Speaker 2: would probably make my life a little easier, and it
Speaker 2: probably would make, you know, probably be a good thing
Speaker 2: for the show, unless you know, it's somebody who isn't good.
Speaker 2: But you know, I'm a control freak, like I probably
Speaker 2: would think, like, wait a second, we're not talking about
Speaker 2: what you want to talk about. Who the hell do
Speaker 2: you think you are? I mean, I probably wouldn't do that,
Speaker 2: But you know, I don't know. I've never when people
Speaker 2: ask me that, it always hits me, like, you know,
Speaker 2: I've never really given that much thought, maybe because I'm
Speaker 2: so self absorbed, and I just you know, it's never
Speaker 2: been brought up or discussed by anybody that I work
Speaker 2: for that they want to do that. But you know,
Speaker 2: I don't know people who listen regularly, they probably just
Speaker 2: assume like this is a two man show, because you know,
Speaker 2: I'm yapping a lot more than anybody else. But obviously,
Speaker 2: you know, you hear from John quite a bit, and
Speaker 2: he's he's become content at times, and I don't know
Speaker 2: if that's what he signed up for. I'm not sure
Speaker 2: if he knew what he was getting himself into. But hey,
Speaker 2: when you work with me, it's kind of how it works.
Speaker 3: It's been fun so far. I hope there's many years
Speaker 3: to come.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you. And you know, the fact that
Speaker 2: you're comfortable is huge because there's some people that just aren't.
Speaker 2: Like I've worked with people who some of them still
Speaker 2: one of them still works here. Like you'll occasionally, you know,
Speaker 2: hear their name being referenced by somebody who's hosting on
Speaker 2: either seven ninety or has and it's a it's a
Speaker 2: fill in producer, but like they want to. They they
Speaker 2: let you know as soon as the show starts, do
Speaker 2: not go to me. I will not speak. I might
Speaker 2: nod my head, but if you start talking to me
Speaker 2: and you expect me to return, you know, the conversation
Speaker 2: on the air, it's not happening. And you know, at
Speaker 2: least I could appreciate the honesty. And there's only two
Speaker 2: people I know that have been like that. But anyways,
Speaker 2: it is Coffee and Company. My name is nic Coffee.
Speaker 2: The company man, mister John Alton, is alongside as we
Speaker 2: take you up until six o'clock. Big game for both
Speaker 2: of us this weekend. Obviously Louisville and Miami. That's I
Speaker 2: don't want to say this makes or breaks the season,
Speaker 2: but I kind of feel like if there was ever
Speaker 2: a time for Louisville to kind of get right, clean
Speaker 2: up some things and really take advantage of an opportunity,
Speaker 2: this is the opportunity to do that, and I'm hopeful
Speaker 2: that they will. But Indiana continues to become bigger and
Speaker 2: bigger favorites in this game against Nebraska, and I mean,
Speaker 2: from the way I look at it, I think it's
Speaker 2: more more. It has more to do with people realizing Indiana,
Speaker 2: despite the competition, has actually been a is a good team.
Speaker 2: I mean, they're not just beating up on FCS teams,
Speaker 2: they're beating other Big Ten teams and Nebraska. You know, again,
Speaker 2: maybe I'm wrong. You've clearly heard from Nebraska fans, I'm
Speaker 2: sure throughout the week on your show and whatnot, But
Speaker 2: like this, Nebraska realized Indiana like is like I mean,
Speaker 2: are they are?
Speaker 1: They?
Speaker 2: Are they fearful because they're touchdown underdogs right now?
Speaker 3: I mean Nebraska fans, the ones I've interacted with before,
Speaker 3: they're usually pretty confident in their team, even if they're
Speaker 3: not very good, and I think this is one of
Speaker 3: the better Nebraska teams that's been in the Big Ten
Speaker 3: the last several years. And I do think Indiana will
Speaker 3: probably have the toughest challenge they've had so far this
Speaker 3: year when they face them this weekend. But one thing
Speaker 3: that I like whenever I've been looking at the matchup
Speaker 3: for Indiana specifically, Nebraska hasn't scored more than twenty eight
Speaker 3: points against anybody that's not G five or FCS this year,
Speaker 3: and Indiana hasn't scored less than thirty one against anybody.
Speaker 3: And so that's one stat that I look forward to
Speaker 3: seeing how that plays out there.
Speaker 2: Yeac, and it is at home in Bloomington. It's a
Speaker 2: noon kickoff, just like the Louisville. Is this sort of
Speaker 2: like a I mean it's.
Speaker 3: A ratings battle? Is it not for the for the region?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean both. I mean it's it's ones on ABC,
Speaker 2: ones on Fox. So both of us are going to
Speaker 2: be getting a lot of a lot of eyeballs just
Speaker 2: because of the of the network that it's a.
Speaker 3: Big noon crew going to be in Bloomington this weekend, and.
Speaker 2: So is Barstool. They're bringing their show to Bloomington as well.
Speaker 2: So I'm not asking this to like make a you know, uh,
Speaker 2: this isn't like a backhanded compliment to Indiana, but like,
Speaker 2: will will there be a big crowd there?
Speaker 3: It's sold out? Okay, good, you know, and I will
Speaker 3: say Nebraska probably helps out with that a bit. I
Speaker 3: think regardless of the circumstances this time around, it would.
Speaker 2: Have so like that doesn't happen very often.
Speaker 3: No, Usually the only time Indiana gets sellouts it's usually
Speaker 3: when Ohio State comes to town because they take you know,
Speaker 3: a good number of the tickets in Michigan does the
Speaker 3: same thing, or if they're playing Purdue.
Speaker 2: Like this is still I mean it's not. This is
Speaker 2: very much new Indiana being like in this.
Speaker 3: Position, they've not been six and since the sixties.
Speaker 2: I was going to ask you as it sold out,
Speaker 2: but I thought, you, like there, I was thinking there's
Speaker 2: a chance that it's that it's not, And then you
Speaker 2: would be like are you making like what do you.
Speaker 3: You've actually already sold out a game later on the season, but.
Speaker 2: This will be the first sellout of the SIGNETI era, right, yeah,
Speaker 2: so yeah, I mean you've got to be on cloud nine, right.
Speaker 4: I am.
Speaker 3: I'm excited, there's enjoy it. I don't know if it's
Speaker 3: I hate calling it cautious optimism, because I mean, they've
Speaker 3: already shown that they can do a lot of good
Speaker 3: stuff with what they've done so far. But I mean
Speaker 3: I want them to, you know, go all the way
Speaker 3: to eleven and one. I'm not going to say twelve
Speaker 3: zero because going on the road and beating Ohio State
Speaker 3: that's something that a lot of teams don't do, really
Speaker 3: good teams don't do it.
Speaker 2: Sure, you could play phenomenal and lose to Ohio State
Speaker 2: at home.
Speaker 3: But if you're eleven and one, you're going to be
Speaker 3: in that Big Ten championship. You're probably gonna play someone
Speaker 3: like Oregon or Ohio State again, and you're gonna be
Speaker 3: in the College Football playoffs.
Speaker 2: And for those who don't follow the Big Ten at
Speaker 2: all and just think this is me letting an Indiana
Speaker 2: fan just you know, gas up his team, I mean,
Speaker 2: I guess it is that. But anybody talking about the
Speaker 2: Big Ten is acknowledging that in India, with their schedule
Speaker 2: and how good they've been thus far, eleven and one
Speaker 2: is like, not is not a crazy scenario.
Speaker 3: I mean, most teams that Indiana plays on this back
Speaker 3: half of the schedule are of the same caliber in
Speaker 3: my opinion, because if you can I said this to
Speaker 3: Nick during the break, if you can beat Nebraska as
Speaker 3: handily as you've beaten the other teams you've already faced,
Speaker 3: I don't think there's anybody left other than Ohio State
Speaker 3: that you shouldn't be favored to beat.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I hate the FPI because I just think it's been
Speaker 2: proven to be you know, it's been proven to be flawed,
Speaker 2: but it is the one thing you can reference where
Speaker 2: you look at your schedule and you see a percentage
Speaker 2: chance you have of winning and seventy five percent chance
Speaker 2: to win on Saturday against Nebraska for Indiana, Washington which
Speaker 2: I can't figure them out, Like they're very weird. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they're four and three, two and two in Big Ten play.
Speaker 2: They lost their rival, their big rivalry game to Washington State,
Speaker 2: which I thought meant that they were going to be done,
Speaker 2: and then they beat Michigan, like they're they're a hard
Speaker 2: team to figure out.
Speaker 3: But you get spanked by Iowa last week, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Think got killed. You're right, forty something to ten, so
Speaker 2: seventy six percent chance to beat Washington if you're Indiana
Speaker 2: and in Michigan State, I don't even need to look
Speaker 2: at that. I will just because I'm already here at
Speaker 2: the ESPN site. But yeah, eighty percent chance of beating
Speaker 2: Michigan State because they're having a rough year. And then Michigan,
Speaker 2: who I mean, I don't know if they're a top
Speaker 2: twenty five team they're ranked that right now. But like,
Speaker 2: if you're Indiana, this looks as ideal for you to
Speaker 2: knock off the Wolverines as as it's been in you
Speaker 2: know along the way did in COVID, right, Yeah that
Speaker 2: was yeah, yeah, So seventy two percent chance of winning
Speaker 2: against Michigan according to the FPI, Ohio State. Let's see
Speaker 2: what this one is.
Speaker 3: I think they're Underdog's Valley.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's Ohio State. Is eighty three percent chance to
Speaker 2: win that one. And then of course Purdue Indiana is
Speaker 2: looking at a ninety five percent chance to win. So yes,
Speaker 2: I do, in fact mock the FPI quite a bit,
Speaker 2: but it is at least a reference point, and I'll
Speaker 2: bring it up to say that, like it's not just
Speaker 2: an Indiana fans not not understanding that you know your
Speaker 2: record is what it is because of who you play.
Speaker 2: They're blowing teams off the field that other teams that
Speaker 2: are viewed to be better than Indiana are not beating
Speaker 2: these teams as badly. So again, when I say, when
Speaker 2: you hear eleven and one, it still seems like you're
Speaker 2: on a different universe because we're talking Indiana football. And
Speaker 2: I know John doesn't take offense to that. It's just
Speaker 2: the truth. This is so not normal for Indiana. But again,
Speaker 2: like if you just go off what is expected to happen,
Speaker 2: what's most likely to happen, based off of analytics and
Speaker 2: numbers and really just using your eyeballs. This Indiana team
Speaker 2: going eleven and one, I'm not saying like it's for
Speaker 2: sure gonna happen, but if we end up getting there
Speaker 2: at the end of November, like you should not. You
Speaker 2: should not consider it as this thing that nobody saw
Speaker 2: coming once you got here. Now again, nobody saw coming
Speaker 2: maybe before the season started. But Signette's kind of having
Speaker 2: the year that bron was having last year? Is he not?
Speaker 3: Is He's taken advantage of a very favorable schedule, and
Speaker 3: part of that was because they removed louisvill Unfortunately, would have.
Speaker 3: Now that we've seen what happened, I would have loved
Speaker 3: to have seen how that would have played out. Hell yeah,
Speaker 3: I would assume it would have had the momentum whenever
Speaker 3: you played in I guess it would have been weak two.
Speaker 3: But I mean, who knows what could have happened in
Speaker 3: that game?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it is, it is. There's no doubt
Speaker 2: like when it comes to storylines talking points within college
Speaker 2: football this season, as of now, Indiana being in this
Speaker 2: position has got to be one of the one of
Speaker 2: the They're in the mix for sure, just because it's
Speaker 2: it's not what you typically see from the Hoosiers. But
Speaker 2: you got a guy named kurtz Signetty who by all
Speaker 2: accounts has backed up everything he said up to this point,
Speaker 2: like I win Google me, and so far he's winning.
Speaker 2: And I don't see that stopping. You know, I'd say
Speaker 2: at this point, you're you know your best, your your
Speaker 2: most likely loss would be Michigan. I mean, I guess
Speaker 2: you could mess around and lose to anybody.
Speaker 3: Nebraska's going to be pointing the road game against Michigan State,
Speaker 3: even though Michigan State isn't really that good of a team.
Speaker 3: I could see that because they've not really played in
Speaker 3: a good road environment yet. You went to UCLA and
Speaker 3: that it's kind of a sleepy Rose Bowl, even though
Speaker 3: you know it is the Rose Bowl. And then you
Speaker 3: had Northwestern in the temporary stadium, and then your your
Speaker 3: first road game in a real, you know, homelike environment
Speaker 3: will be the Michigan State game. And even though they're
Speaker 3: not good, it'll be interesting to see how they respond
Speaker 3: in that scenario.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that could be like, you know, the letdown exactly,
Speaker 2: the letdown game. But again, like Signetti so far, I
Speaker 2: feel like he could. He's the kind of coach that,
Speaker 2: you know, may be able to avoid those kind of things.
Speaker 2: I've been so impressed with him because again he's you know,
Speaker 2: I think what makes him more fascinating to me is
Speaker 2: that he did leave a position. He left a great
Speaker 2: job on the Bama staff to go take over at
Speaker 2: a D two school to be a head coach. And
Speaker 2: you know, that's one of those things that if he's
Speaker 2: not successful, right, he took it. He he bet on himself,
Speaker 2: probably making less money there than he was making on
Speaker 2: the Alabama staff, but he bet on himself. Right, That's
Speaker 2: what coaches who want to do this and want to
Speaker 2: compete at the highest level as head coaches, they've got
Speaker 2: to do at some point. They've got they've got to.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's not only betting on yourself, like it's
Speaker 2: sacrificing to be honest with you, because again, financially, you're
Speaker 2: not making a whole lot of money. You don't have
Speaker 2: a lot of money to build your staff out either.
Speaker 2: But he knew, hey, I got to start somewhere to
Speaker 2: show people that I can be a really successful head coach.
Speaker 2: And he's done it at every stop, and he clearly
Speaker 2: has a lot of belief in himself. You can you
Speaker 2: can gather that by hearing him talk not only throughout
Speaker 2: the season but since he got there, but his actions
Speaker 2: have shown that he does have a whole lot of
Speaker 2: belief in what he's all about. His formulas. That's the
Speaker 2: word I use is that you know, these coaches, if
Speaker 2: they've won in different places, they're carrying that formula job
Speaker 2: to job. And you know, I think there's some people
Speaker 2: that just assume, well, hey, he's never been at the
Speaker 2: highest level. He's never been you know, in the Power four,
Speaker 2: power five, whatever, so there's just no way it can work.
Speaker 2: And you may be right, Like, there may be a
Speaker 2: scenario where a guy got to a point and what
Speaker 2: he did it just isn't compatible. It's not going to
Speaker 2: give you the same success rate when you're at the top,
Speaker 2: but you don't know until you try. And I can
Speaker 2: see why it's viewed as a as a for an
Speaker 2: athletic director to make this kind of a move to
Speaker 2: go get a guy who's kind of taken the steps
Speaker 2: and gone through the path that Signette's gone through. But
Speaker 2: it's also a risk to go hire a coordinator that
Speaker 2: you just feel like is going to be great because
Speaker 2: he worked for, you know, a really good head coach coach.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Ryan Walters kind of I hate to call him
Speaker 3: a bomb, But where did he where did he come from?
Speaker 3: He was Illinois decoordinator in Brett Bielima's first or second
Speaker 3: season something like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I feel like there were other better
Speaker 2: names mentioned for that job whenever brom left. But yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean he was. I mean, he was only the
Speaker 2: DC there for two years at Illinois and he turned
Speaker 2: that into a head coaching job in the Big Ten.
Speaker 2: I mean that just seems like a real head scratcher.
Speaker 2: But yeah, you're right. Total opposite type of high as
Speaker 2: far as what you're going for. And I mean yeah,
Speaker 2: and Purdue also was able to go hire a coach
Speaker 2: who hadn't got a chance to be a big name
Speaker 2: at a power program yet. But what he did at
Speaker 2: Western worked, right, I mean, meaning Jeff brom Like you
Speaker 2: would think they would see, Okay, let's let's go do
Speaker 2: that again, let's go try to find that type of thing,
Speaker 2: and they chose to go really in a completely different direction.
Speaker 2: And you know, I think it's pretty known now, but
Speaker 2: when Jeff was at Western, you know he was, he
Speaker 2: was being pursued, not they didn't want him, but both
Speaker 2: South Carolina. I think it might have been not maybe
Speaker 2: it was when they hired I don't know, Maybe it
Speaker 2: was when they hired Beamer. Who was before Beamer? Was
Speaker 2: there somebody before? Oh is it must Champ? Maybe yeah,
Speaker 2: must Jeff might have been it whenever, you know he was.
Speaker 2: There were some schools that were kicking the tires on
Speaker 2: Jeff so to speak, and didn't and didn't pull the trigger,
Speaker 2: and then you know, Purdue did and it worked out.
Speaker 2: And I'm sure that's the same thing for Signette. I
Speaker 2: would be willing to bet and he would have gotten
Speaker 2: a job eventually before Indiana got to him, or if
Speaker 2: Indiana didn't pursue him, somebody else would have got him.
Speaker 2: But I'm sure there's others, and I don't know, maybe
Speaker 2: you know in your coverage, has he ever been involved
Speaker 2: in another search before the Indiana one, where I'm like, yeah.
Speaker 3: But I am a little worried, you know, depending on
Speaker 3: how the rest of the season plays out, how hot
Speaker 3: of a commodity he's going to be with, if there's
Speaker 3: any other big name jobs, and we are We've talked
Speaker 3: about Florida a bunch Billy Napier, and I know he's
Speaker 3: still the head coach there, But if they don't pull
Speaker 3: in Elaine Kiffin, I wouldn't be surprised if Signetti is
Speaker 3: optioned two or three for somebody like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, even if they end up losing a
Speaker 2: couple of games this year and they're I mean, look,
Speaker 2: they could go nine to three and that would be
Speaker 2: probably a letdown at this point because of how good
Speaker 2: they've gotten off to a start. But I mean it's
Speaker 2: it's his first season in Indiana, and Indiana, you know,
Speaker 2: is coming off of a lull there with the end
Speaker 2: of the Tom Allen era. And I mean, I don't
Speaker 2: want you to lose your coach, but I can see
Speaker 2: why if I'm an athletic director and I'm pretty confident
Speaker 2: I'm going to go hire.
Speaker 3: Something figuring out what the plan is for how to
Speaker 3: keep him or if he ends up leaving, because one
Speaker 3: of those two things, you're gonna have to lock him up,
Speaker 3: I feel like, or he's gonna be gone, You're gonna
Speaker 3: be doing to search all over again.
Speaker 2: Would it not, like, would it not be completely demoralizing
Speaker 2: if in fact he was there one year and left, like.
Speaker 3: Because it would feel like you had the magic in
Speaker 3: the hand, like lightning in a bottle, that type of thing,
Speaker 3: and then it's just gone. And you probably sit there
Speaker 3: if you're Indiana and you're wondering, is there a way
Speaker 3: to recreate this at all with anyone else? Yeah, I'd
Speaker 3: be so difficult, I'm sure.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean what a roller coach, I mean, like it's
Speaker 2: it's been Maybe roller coaster is not the right way
Speaker 2: to describe it, because I mean, Indiana fans are experiencing
Speaker 2: a lot of things during the football season that they
Speaker 2: probably never experienced before, as far as one just having
Speaker 2: this much momentum, having a coach that everybody thinks is
Speaker 2: like really really good, and you know, being in the
Speaker 2: mix to potentially go to the Big Ten championship game,
Speaker 2: like it's it's gotta be a lot of fun for you. Man.
Speaker 2: I didn't see it coming, but I'm sure it's a
Speaker 2: lot of fun.
Speaker 3: All right.
Speaker 2: We're gonna have a lot of fun on the other
Speaker 2: side here when we bring in mister kent Spencer from
Speaker 2: w HS eleven, we'll get his thoughts on the local
Speaker 2: teams and one team we haven't talked about today, Kentucky.
Speaker 2: I want to get his thoughts on this Florida matchup
Speaker 2: for Kentucky because I kind of feel like Kentucky football
Speaker 2: fans have checked out once again after that loss to
Speaker 2: Andy and a loss here to Florida. It used to
Speaker 2: be just something that was routine. I mean, would you
Speaker 2: lose to Florida twenty something years in a row. Now
Speaker 2: you've actually gotten the best of them more often than not.
Speaker 2: But I think a loss here, I mean again, I
Speaker 2: just think the noise about Stoops from his own fans
Speaker 2: gets even louder if they slip up here. Don't go anywhere,
Speaker 2: keep it locked right here on Sports Talk seven ninety company,
Speaker 2: rolling along here on a Thursday afternoon, and we now
Speaker 2: bring him in. He is the one and only Kent
Speaker 2: Spencer from WHAS eleven, Kent. Before we get into what's
Speaker 2: going on here with the local teams, a big weekend
Speaker 2: of football for everybody, Louisville, Kentucky, Indiana. How about this
Speaker 2: news Tony Bennett retiring twenty days before the season starts,
Speaker 2: just fifty five years old. I mean, I think we're
Speaker 2: all guessing what the hell's going on? This wasn't expected,
Speaker 2: but just your initial thoughts.
Speaker 4: No, I mean, you know what in the world of like, hey, hey,
Speaker 4: I'm not really shocked, but I'm still kind of shocked.
Speaker 4: I think I'm kind of that, you know, at this
Speaker 4: point in time with kind of where we are in
Speaker 4: college athletics, but surprising that, I mean, you know, the
Speaker 4: season is is just around the corner.
Speaker 2: That's the biggest surprise here, right Like at the end
Speaker 2: of the day, if he walked away last year, you
Speaker 2: probably would have, you know, been been taken back a
Speaker 2: little bit. But then again, as you said, where we
Speaker 2: are with college athletics, it is more of something these
Speaker 2: guys probably consider than they did pre in al in
Speaker 2: the portal, but to do it now it's just I mean,
Speaker 2: it's not idea. I mean, I'm just I hope it's
Speaker 2: not this, but I'm thinking maybe help or something.
Speaker 4: Well, And that was what I was going to say,
Speaker 4: is like, I really hope that it's not health that
Speaker 4: it's something it's something else, because you know, at this
Speaker 4: point we're all kind of speculating on you know, what
Speaker 4: possibly it could be. I mean, you know, there's so
Speaker 4: many there's so many times with these guys where they're
Speaker 4: probably so burned out at the end of the season
Speaker 4: and they don't think they want to hang them up,
Speaker 4: and they're like, well, you know what, the fire will
Speaker 4: get lit again. The fire will get lit again. You
Speaker 4: know I maybe you know who knows. Like I said,
Speaker 4: I'm just throwing stuff out there, but maybe like the
Speaker 4: fire just didn't get lit. And I would imagine, like
Speaker 4: the way that Tony Bennett goes about his stuff, I
Speaker 4: would imagine with how things are in college athletics right now,
Speaker 4: he probably isn't a big fan of it. And so, yeah,
Speaker 4: I just hope it's not nothing health related. But yeah,
Speaker 4: it is a shocker because he's been so good at
Speaker 4: his job for such a long time.
Speaker 2: And he seems like somebody that to your point, if
Speaker 2: if he was just waiting for that fire to kind
Speaker 2: of come back and kind of reset the batteries a
Speaker 2: little bit during the off season, and he knows it's
Speaker 2: he knows now for sure as he's getting closer and
Speaker 2: closer to the season that it's just not there. You know,
Speaker 2: he probably knows it's not good for anybody if he's
Speaker 2: not all in. So you know, he's been a thorn
Speaker 2: in the side for Louisville and really a lot of teams.
Speaker 2: I mean, he's a very successful coach. He was winning
Speaker 2: the ACC in the regular season when all the legends
Speaker 2: were still in the league, and he was winning the
Speaker 2: league whenever Patino of Bejan when he was good obviously
Speaker 2: coach K and Roy. So obviously he's not done much
Speaker 2: since that national championship. But yeah, big news, and you know,
Speaker 2: a stunner when it comes to the timing, no doubt.
Speaker 4: Yeah no, And you know you had mentioned, you know
Speaker 4: the fact that he was one of the league and
Speaker 4: he was going in like not only were they winning
Speaker 4: the league, like he was going into everybody's house and witting.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I mean how many times did we watch
Speaker 4: him lead a team to victory inside the KFCM Center
Speaker 4: or beating Duke at Cameron Indoor at the Dean Do
Speaker 4: But you know, like he took his brand of basketball,
Speaker 4: which you know was was that defense and you know,
Speaker 4: run a clock down. But he had efficient, efficient guys
Speaker 4: at the game, and so he he took that brand
Speaker 4: of basketball and guess what, he won the whole thing.
Speaker 4: And he was in the conversation a lot more than
Speaker 4: than just that once. So tip of the cap to
Speaker 4: a career. But you know it's I'm really gonna be
Speaker 4: interested to hear you know why he chose this was
Speaker 4: the right time to call it a career.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we'll see how it plays out over the
Speaker 2: next few years. But I would I wouldn't be shocked
Speaker 2: if we get to I don't know, twenty twenty seven,
Speaker 2: and these types of decisions are no longer really as
Speaker 2: surprise because you just realize, hey, it's kind of become
Speaker 2: somewhat of a trend to where the job is changed, right,
Speaker 2: I mean it you're still coaching basketball, but there's so
Speaker 2: much more to it to where if you've had a
Speaker 2: good run and you know that you've accomplished enough to
Speaker 2: fill full field, fill fulfield, it fulfilled as a coach,
Speaker 2: then you know you could probably walk away and say,
Speaker 2: you know what, it was great, but I'm going to
Speaker 2: hand the reins to somebody else because what it's become
Speaker 2: is just really not what I'm what I'm into. But yeah,
Speaker 2: that is the big news for those just now joining
Speaker 2: as Tony Bennett, Virginia head coach, has decided to retire immediately,
Speaker 2: so certainly a big, big piece of news in college hoops.
Speaker 2: Let's switch gears here to college football before we get
Speaker 2: to the Louis Miami matchup. Kentucky coming off a tough
Speaker 2: loss to and Andy. Vandy, of course a better team
Speaker 2: than they've been in a long time, but obviously that's
Speaker 2: not what Kentucky fans want to hear because it was
Speaker 2: a game where they probably still feel like they were
Speaker 2: better than Vandy. In fact, I think they are, but
Speaker 2: they didn't play like it, and a let down for
Speaker 2: Mark Stoops coming off of a bye. I kind of
Speaker 2: feel like this is a this is a game for
Speaker 2: them that could send this season in two different directions.
Speaker 2: A win here can remind you that you know what,
Speaker 2: despite these losses, we still have you know, as Kentucky,
Speaker 2: we still have a chance to finish strong. But I
Speaker 2: think a loss here, I just feel like the noise
Speaker 2: in regards to just about the disappointment from their fans.
Speaker 1: It.
Speaker 2: I mean, even Stoops that I give him credit, he
Speaker 2: wears his emotions on his sleeve. He's been pretty upfront
Speaker 2: since they're lost to Andy that he's trying to figure
Speaker 2: out what the heck's going on with this guys. I
Speaker 2: feel like, in a weird way, this is a big,
Speaker 2: big game for Kentucky on Saturday.
Speaker 4: Yeah, It's almost like they're on a bike and they're
Speaker 4: kind of on a cliff and they're riding the bike
Speaker 4: along the cliff and you know, do you keep it
Speaker 4: on the road or do you go off the side.
Speaker 4: That's what it feels like this week is. And to
Speaker 4: be honest with you, like with Kentucky, like if you
Speaker 4: look at that Vanderbilt game, what is it, twelve penalties
Speaker 4: one hundred and five yards there? It is right there? Yeah, Like,
Speaker 4: I mean, it doesn't it doesn't get They're not built
Speaker 4: you know, offensively, they're not built to sustain, you know,
Speaker 4: like to go back to first and twenty.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't get on the one yard line and
Speaker 2: walk away with no points and think it's not going
Speaker 2: to come back to get you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, twelve, you know, twelve penalties one hundred and five yards.
Speaker 4: I mean that's it. And then you know, like, look
Speaker 4: their offenses is it has shown, it has shown flashes
Speaker 4: at times. But bush Hampton said this the other day.
Speaker 4: He said, they've had five runs of over twenty yards
Speaker 4: twenty yards are moor and he was like, that's that's
Speaker 4: just not enough. He goes, He said that teams are
Speaker 4: just playing them where they're not allowing their guys to
Speaker 4: get over top. So teams are playing them to have
Speaker 4: those twelve thirteen fourteen play drives. Well, if that's the case,
Speaker 4: then you're asking an awful lot of your offense to
Speaker 4: really execute, to be able to go all the way
Speaker 4: down the field, and you need to pop some explosive plays.
Speaker 4: And that's something that has missed in their offense. But
Speaker 4: also for like me, and we're gonna do a little
Speaker 4: compare and contrast here, right, Like Brock Vandergriff has the
Speaker 4: arm strength, but does he have he can hit that
Speaker 4: third or that fifth step and a drop and get
Speaker 4: the ball out and get it out on time and
Speaker 4: go hit the open guy consistently. You know, I don't
Speaker 4: know if that's I don't know if that's in his
Speaker 4: bag right now. And to be honest with you, with
Speaker 4: the sec if you can't do that, you're in trouble.
Speaker 4: Case in point on the other side with Louisville and
Speaker 4: Tyler Shuck. You know that guy more times than not,
Speaker 4: he knows where he's gonna with the football and he's
Speaker 4: getting it to the open guy.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And I think with with with Vandergriff he may
Speaker 2: be and I think you you'd mentioned this in one
Speaker 2: of our earlier conversations this season about him. He may
Speaker 2: have the the you know, the talent and I haven't
Speaker 2: seen anything to say this guy he's terrible, but he's
Speaker 2: he's getting his first year of experience as a starting
Speaker 2: quarterback now. And I think when you get a guy
Speaker 2: from Georgia and he's playing behind some really good guys,
Speaker 2: which makes sense as to why he's transferring, you know,
Speaker 2: like he's he's a guy that's that's kind of learning
Speaker 2: on the fly a little bit here.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, And you know the thing about it is,
Speaker 4: especially you know in the SEC and some of the
Speaker 4: teams they they've gone up against, right, Like, these guys
Speaker 4: are moving a million miles an hour and you have
Speaker 4: to process that. And you have a window that's opened
Speaker 4: one second, it's closed the next, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: And so so many times, you know, guys can throw
Speaker 4: the ball, but can they process the decision that they
Speaker 4: need to make and get the ball out on time?
Speaker 4: You know that that's ultimately that separates you know, quarterbacks
Speaker 4: in my mind, I mean, he's made throws on the
Speaker 4: opposite side of the hash twenty yards down the field
Speaker 4: on an outcut, on a rope. I mean, there ain't
Speaker 4: a whole lot of dudes out there that have that
Speaker 4: kind of talent. So he's got like tremendous arm talent.
Speaker 4: But it's the other stuff that does he have, and
Speaker 4: you know, is he gonna be able to develop it?
Speaker 4: I mean, to be quite honest with you, halfway halfway
Speaker 4: through with the season, times running out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a great opportunity for me to segue because
Speaker 2: I feel like time's running out for Louisville to show
Speaker 2: that their identity can be one that is not a
Speaker 2: team that makes a lot of avoidable mistakes. Clearly they
Speaker 2: won on Saturday against Virginia. It was needed in a
Speaker 2: major way really just to avoid a three game losing
Speaker 2: streak and get these guys back to that feeling of winning,
Speaker 2: because they needed in a major way considering how those
Speaker 2: games played out with those back to back losses. But
Speaker 2: they're I mean, is it fair to say they're gonna
Speaker 2: have to play in a way that they've not played
Speaker 2: all year on Saturday against Miami if they want to win.
Speaker 2: I mean, you never know what's going to happen. Maybe
Speaker 2: Miami lays a complete egg. Who knows. But I just
Speaker 2: feel like Miami's the kind of team when it comes
Speaker 2: to their talent and what they can do that if
Speaker 2: you do make you know, the same type of mistakes
Speaker 2: you've made all year, just avoidable mistakes when it comes
Speaker 2: to penalties, just bad communication. Like I feel like Miami's
Speaker 2: a team that will be able to really take advantage
Speaker 2: of that more than anybody that you've played up to
Speaker 2: this point.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, to be quite honest with you, I
Speaker 4: think this game kind of comes down to Louisville's pass
Speaker 4: rush and what they do against cam Ward, And it's
Speaker 4: not so much about you know if they have seen
Speaker 4: we have seen them, especially last year, go up against
Speaker 4: good teams with good quarterbacks, and that defensive front has
Speaker 4: really rattled that quarterback. That really hasn't happened so far
Speaker 4: this year. And I think I kind of I've been
Speaker 4: thinking about this, to be quite honest with you. Destel
Speaker 4: was out for a few games with an injury. But
Speaker 4: you know, uh, you know Mason Mason Reager not being
Speaker 4: for sure. Yeah, on the other side of Ashton Jelatti,
Speaker 4: I think it's been it's been really really tough because
Speaker 4: you know, he is a dude, and when you have
Speaker 4: two dudes out there, it's really hard to block one.
Speaker 4: And so you know, the teams have teams have kind
Speaker 4: of been able to keep Jalati at bay, even though
Speaker 4: he got a sack last week, which was you know,
Speaker 4: good to to to see him, you know, get home
Speaker 4: in the backfield. But you know, this game comes down
Speaker 4: to for me, it comes down to that, like I
Speaker 4: do think, but like both teams are going to make mistakes,
Speaker 4: But can you get a heisman a guy that's in
Speaker 4: the conversation for the Heisman Trophy? Can you get him
Speaker 4: rattled in your house and force him to make mistakes
Speaker 4: because you know, the Cards have been able to capitalize
Speaker 4: when teams make mistakes this year, and so if if
Speaker 4: if they can do that, then they give themselves now,
Speaker 4: you know, if they can't get pressure on him, but
Speaker 4: he's able to kind of do his thing. It's really
Speaker 4: really tough because this Miami tea is pretty talented.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's what's got me just to you know,
Speaker 2: I've made it quite clear anytime I talk about U
Speaker 2: of L, I think I could be objective, but I'm
Speaker 2: a fan. I'm hoping that they went on Saturday, but
Speaker 2: there's been the quarterbacks have essentially been feasting in a
Speaker 2: way against Louisville. Maybe not necessarily when it comes to
Speaker 2: just putting up crazy numbers, but you know, especially early
Speaker 2: in the game, just being able to kind of take
Speaker 2: their time and honestly take off and run and make plays.
Speaker 2: And it's been three four straight games, and I just
Speaker 2: know Kim Ward's the kind of guy that can do
Speaker 2: that better than anybody you've played at the quarterback position
Speaker 2: up to this point. So, yeah, making him uncomfortable, maybe
Speaker 2: showing him something, throwing something at him that he hasn't
Speaker 2: seen before, that could go a long way, But of
Speaker 2: course easier easier said than done. Are you a believer
Speaker 2: in this Miami team as far as being maybe not,
Speaker 2: you know the u of old we're talking decades ago.
Speaker 2: But I think kim Ward has been a guy that's
Speaker 2: just giving them some different swagger to where I find
Speaker 2: myself believing they could, in fact, you know, make a
Speaker 2: deep run here for the first time in a long
Speaker 2: long time because of what he brings to the table.
Speaker 4: Well, I think that he's he is by far the
Speaker 4: best quarterback that they've had in a while at Miami.
Speaker 4: Like he's you know, he's a dude. Whether I'm a
Speaker 4: believer in Miami or not, Like, ask me after Saturday.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll I'm sure a lot of people are probably
Speaker 2: looking at it that way, to be honest, Yeah.
Speaker 4: I think we'll learn a lot after Saturday. Look in
Speaker 4: the last what is it, handful of years, at times,
Speaker 4: you know, we've seen Miami get out the fast starts
Speaker 4: and maybe a good early performance, but can they sustain
Speaker 4: it throughout the course of a season. So, to be
Speaker 4: honest with you, like, you know, ask me after Saturday.
Speaker 4: But the funny thing about it is, in all of this, right,
Speaker 4: like Louisville sits here right now at four and two,
Speaker 4: but they've only got one loss to the ACC, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean? Like, sure, you know people, you
Speaker 4: know it may not be perfect and sometimes but guess what,
Speaker 4: you know last year wasn't perfect. You know. I think
Speaker 4: sometimes we think about some of these games as they
Speaker 4: wanted the fourth quarter last year, and if you really
Speaker 4: think about it, like a lot of those games they
Speaker 4: were they were fortunate to get by. But when you
Speaker 4: get by, you don't think. You don't really ever ever
Speaker 4: go back and be like, we were lucky to escape
Speaker 4: that one.
Speaker 2: No doubt about it. And what I keep going back
Speaker 2: to is against Georgia Tech. You know, that was before
Speaker 2: they they taken a loss yet, and they did end
Speaker 2: up winning that game in covering, but they had some
Speaker 2: plays go their way that you just don't expect to happen.
Speaker 2: They took advantage of an opponent making mistakes. But you know,
Speaker 2: you're not you're not thinking about bad calls in that
Speaker 2: game like you are against Notre Dame and as some
Speaker 2: you potentially just because you know you were able to
Speaker 2: survive and hold on, you're right, you do kind of
Speaker 2: forget that had had this play or that play not
Speaker 2: gone your way. In a lot of games, you could
Speaker 2: have easily left with a loss instead of a win.
Speaker 2: And now they're now they're dealing with it, just you know,
Speaker 2: on the other side with losses. So last question I
Speaker 2: got for you, and it's not something I typically ask
Speaker 2: you about, but I feel like I have to now.
Speaker 2: I know you guys do cover of all the Kentuckyana teams.
Speaker 2: Indiana's undefeated. They got Nebraska this weekend. I mean, Kurt Signetti,
Speaker 2: this guy, he's becoming one of the more talked about
Speaker 2: coaches in college football this season. I think it's for
Speaker 2: good reason. What do you make of this hot start
Speaker 2: for the former JMU coach?
Speaker 4: Look, I mean, I think it's it's been fantastic. I mean,
Speaker 4: he's completely changed the way that they that they play.
Speaker 4: He's completely changed the culture. I mean the fact that
Speaker 4: you know they're already bow eligible, they're undefeated, hosted Nebraska,
Speaker 4: who's you know, kind of tried to resurrect their program
Speaker 4: with with Matt Ruhle, and you know, he doesn't. You know,
Speaker 4: Kurt Signetti doesn't look like a guy that's gonna have
Speaker 4: a ton of confidence, but Mandy does. And I think
Speaker 4: you can kind of tell that that his players believe it.
Speaker 4: Even in fact, I think it was this week he
Speaker 4: just said, look, you know, the guys that we brought in,
Speaker 4: and a lot of them were from JMU, were guys
Speaker 4: that believed. The guys that stuck it out that were
Speaker 4: already at Indiana. You know, maybe there weren't many, but
Speaker 4: there's those were the guys that believed. And this is
Speaker 4: this is the kind of results like I love to
Speaker 4: see turnarounds like this. I think it's I think it's
Speaker 4: really really cool. And they've got an offense that is
Speaker 4: super fun to watch. It explosive, you know it. I'm
Speaker 4: really curious to see what that what that game with
Speaker 4: Nebraska looks like?
Speaker 2: Same here. Should should be a great weekend of football.
Speaker 2: Can has always appreciated making appreciate you making time for us,
Speaker 2: and we will see you soon.
Speaker 4: All right, see you about it.
Speaker 2: Take care. That is Ken Spencer w h A S
Speaker 2: eleven quick time out will come back for a short
Speaker 2: segment and uh, you know see if there's I mean
Speaker 2: I was looking a little there. I saw a few
Speaker 2: tweets from those that cover college shoops. This Tony Bennett
Speaker 2: news it seems like everybody, even those who know Tony,
Speaker 2: you know, to an extent that cover him, are stunned
Speaker 2: by this. So maybe something maybe maybe we learned something
Speaker 2: before we get out of here. But foick break, don't
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Speaker 2: as you likely know, a very short segment here. But
Speaker 2: if you are just now joining us, breaking news in
Speaker 2: college basketball as Tony Bennett has decided to retire immediately
Speaker 2: twenty days before the season gets started. And it could
Speaker 2: be I mean, it could be anything that led to this,
Speaker 2: but when it comes to the you know, the timing,
Speaker 2: I mean it it makes sense for people to maybe
Speaker 2: not assume, but potentially, you know, speculate that something could
Speaker 2: have happened. And what that is, who knows. Maybe it's
Speaker 2: health related, maybe it's I mean, maybe it's controversial, or
Speaker 2: you know, as we just discussed with Ken Spencer, maybe
Speaker 2: he just realizes as he's getting closer and closer that
Speaker 2: he's not really in it anymore and he doesn't want to,
Speaker 2: you know, hurt his team. I mean, it's hard to
Speaker 2: imagine that, like he feels like leaving him to somebody
Speaker 2: twenty days before the season starts would be what's best
Speaker 2: for them. But he was at acc tip off last week,
Speaker 2: and I mean, I'm just I'm just trying to to
Speaker 2: you know, catch as much as I can here while
Speaker 2: hosting the show as far as what's being said out
Speaker 2: there about Tony Bennett. And you know there it was
Speaker 2: Jeff Borzello, who of ESPN. He was there and said that,
Speaker 2: you know, he had just he had just talked to
Speaker 2: him and interviewed him meaning Bennett, and did a piece
Speaker 2: on how he could be potentially the next Jay Wright.
Speaker 2: And during the interview in the conversation, as Borzello is
Speaker 2: getting quotes obviously for this story, he got no indication
Speaker 2: that this was at any point in you know, a
Speaker 2: thought or possibility. Same thing from somebody who covers Virginia
Speaker 2: who says, I just had Tony Bennet on my show
Speaker 2: last week. Didn't get any indication from anybody that he
Speaker 2: was even close to considering maybe walking away. So those
Speaker 2: are things that do make you wonder, Okay, did something happen.
Speaker 2: But he's gonna have a press conference tomorrow at eleven am,
Speaker 2: So I would imagine if it is him announcing he's retiring,
Speaker 2: it could just be that he's he's done for whatever
Speaker 2: reason he wants to be done. I would imagine if
Speaker 2: if this day and age, if there was something that
Speaker 2: went on, meaning like some kind of a controversy, some
Speaker 2: kind of a scandal in twenty twenty four, it ain't
Speaker 2: gonna stay quite long.
Speaker 3: It also probably wouldn't be known as a retiring it'd
Speaker 3: be more of a he's being let go type of thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, unless they're wanting to keep it under wraps.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's I mean, I would assume you
Speaker 2: would want to keep it under wraps unless you just
Speaker 2: know that there's no possibility of that happening. So we
Speaker 2: shall see, but no doubt, you know, big news in
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