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Speaker 3: Hey, good afternoon, everybody. Welcome to I on the Ball
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Speaker 3: jagins Allis and today we have one today on a Friday.
Speaker 4: How are you doing? Goodie two shoes.
Speaker 3: We haven't seen any one, y'all keep canceling on me fridays.
Speaker 4: Man. We got big long weekends.
Speaker 5: We've got stuff to do.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you're right.
Speaker 3: We took it on the other we turk it on
Speaker 3: the back to.
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 5: I appreciate, appreciate the fact that you miss.
Speaker 4: This or you'll be working you working media tomorrow. That's cool.
Speaker 3: Get are you excited?
Speaker 4: Oh, I'm very excited.
Speaker 6: I'm always excited for that seasons.
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, you're doing stuff for who again? Easy desert swarm?
Speaker 5: All right? And what's it? What are your responsibilit ladies tomorrow?
Speaker 6: That's a good question.
Speaker 3: I'm going to find out tomorrow.
Speaker 6: I know exactly what.
Speaker 5: Visiting locker room. I'll be there to help visiting locker room.
Speaker 3: Okay, well, congrats, have fun and it's work, right, it's
Speaker 3: called work.
Speaker 4: I think your the first locker room you ever went into.
Speaker 4: You remember what that was and what that was? Holy crap?
Speaker 3: Uh yeah college like a post like a postgame locker room.
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, well in college in college. Yeah, it was
Speaker 3: probably a loss in New York State, didn't win very much.
Speaker 3: Just remember how awful it was because the guys are
Speaker 3: jerks and when they lose, you know, and it's better
Speaker 3: to cover a winning team than the losing team.
Speaker 4: Wow. That and that's that was my experience. I had
Speaker 4: just started as a sports writer, so I wasn't I
Speaker 4: wasn't doing it, you know, I wasn't the backup guy
Speaker 4: for football or anything like that. So a guy that
Speaker 4: used to worked at the at the start and name
Speaker 4: I remember his name, Wendell Barnhouse. And I remember Wendell Well,
Speaker 4: he was in he was in Dallas, Fort Worth Rank.
Speaker 4: He was in Dallas, So they need.
Speaker 3: Us here, he was here, he was here.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he was at the start.
Speaker 4: Oh I didn't know that, yeah, early early eighties, because
Speaker 4: he was there when I was a child. Anyways, so
Speaker 4: this is in the eighty five season and they needed
Speaker 4: somebody a stringer to SMU was coming to town and
Speaker 4: they needed somebody to cover the game. And so he
Speaker 4: called me and asked me to cover the game. Well,
Speaker 4: Arizona beats them. They come in ranking like number five
Speaker 4: or something like that, and you know, Larry Smith and
Speaker 4: Arizona beats them. That was my first locker room. I
Speaker 4: had to go to the SMU locker room quotes or no.
Speaker 5: Do the story. I was doing a story.
Speaker 4: I had to write a game story for them, but
Speaker 4: it was it was a game story on SMU, not
Speaker 4: on Arizona. So my first locker room was to have
Speaker 4: to go to that.
Speaker 5: Uh. You know, they had gotten upset here.
Speaker 4: You remember the the lock the locker room where they
Speaker 4: had to go down the steps in the corner of
Speaker 4: the of the stadium took forever and in that corner
Speaker 4: fans were throwing play money at him. You could not
Speaker 4: see the track because they had to cross on the track.
Speaker 4: The track was covered with playmen. Because this is at
Speaker 4: the height of the nineteen eighty five scandal.
Speaker 5: Yeah five, was it eighty six.
Speaker 3: Eighty five? There was only one twenty eight to six. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it wasn't even close. Kick their asses, beat the hell
Speaker 3: out of them, packed owles.
Speaker 4: Should you choo?
Speaker 5: Thousand yep?
Speaker 3: Wow, okay.
Speaker 4: And that was right after all the scandal stuff, during
Speaker 4: the scandle stuff, and that that was. That was my
Speaker 4: first locker room, having to go down there.
Speaker 5: That was it was.
Speaker 4: It was first of all, I remember that locker room.
Speaker 4: It was just tiny. We're all jammed in there. It's sweaty,
Speaker 4: it's gross, and they were pissed. Yeah, they were all
Speaker 4: It was dead silence. I mean, I'm I'm you know,
Speaker 4: you know, the coach is standing in there answering questions
Speaker 4: and you could have been on the far side of
Speaker 4: the locker room. You could hear every word he was saying. Yeah,
Speaker 4: it was so quiet.
Speaker 3: No, those are not fun. The worst locker rooms I
Speaker 3: had ever been in were the two Son Toros, oh
Speaker 3: back in the eighties. And it wasn't just one or
Speaker 3: two or three times. It was a lot of times.
Speaker 3: Because they had a lot of games, right, and some
Speaker 3: of the guys were jerks, and that's the reason why.
Speaker 3: So you know, you go to the guys that were
Speaker 3: talking blah blah blah. But you know, there were some jerks,
Speaker 3: big times, my all time big jerks.
Speaker 4: Yeah. It's funny because another another locker room. I was
Speaker 4: the locker room guy. Uh No, I wasn't like I
Speaker 4: was the beat guy. Oh here, I'm trying to remember
Speaker 4: where I heard it. I was the beaty when Arizona
Speaker 4: beat Oklahoma, right, and we were on there here right here, right,
Speaker 4: We're on the sidelines, we're over by the lock so
Speaker 4: they kicked the field goal win the game. You know,
Speaker 4: the team is still on the field, and an Oklahoma
Speaker 4: writer standing next to me says says something like, I
Speaker 4: don't want to hear from Gary, Gary Gibbs, the coach.
Speaker 4: I don't want to hear one word from Gary that
Speaker 4: this was a good football team that they lost to.
Speaker 4: And I thought, well, they kicked your guys. He's going
Speaker 4: to say that. He's going to say that was a
Speaker 4: good football team out there. Sure enough, it was sixty
Speaker 4: three sixty three, it was I was. I was the
Speaker 4: guy that was a slug fast, Yeah it was. Yeah.
Speaker 3: We've had Doug Faff on the show a few times.
Speaker 3: His claim to fame, right, yeah, big time claim to fame. Okay,
Speaker 3: let's start today. We have a pretty good show. Today,
Speaker 3: we have a beat writer from New Mexico, Will Weber
Speaker 3: from the Santa Fe, New Mexican. He had a pretty
Speaker 3: good column after the first lost last week, you know
Speaker 3: thirty basketball season, and we'll talk to him about that.
Speaker 3: And then our guy here, Justin.
Speaker 4: R Justin Spears, will join us, and you know, finally
Speaker 4: we're down to it. You know, he'll be the last
Speaker 4: guest before game one and we'll get you know, his thoughts.
Speaker 4: He's he's been having to write all summer long about
Speaker 4: this team, and so we'll say, okay, the games tomorrow,
Speaker 4: what are you thinking? So we'll find out from him, right,
Speaker 4: is this his second or third year? Second year? We'll
Speaker 4: talk to him about that. You know, I tease him
Speaker 4: about he's just happy to be here because there there
Speaker 4: kids who you know, are enjoy their life and know
Speaker 4: us we're just kind of grumpy old man. You know,
Speaker 4: we've seen it all. You used to have to be
Speaker 4: an old, grizzly veteran to have that job. Yeah right,
Speaker 4: I mean, well he used to have to be around
Speaker 4: for a while.
Speaker 7: Jay.
Speaker 3: I don't know if you've noticed the TV stations and
Speaker 3: the newspapers, they all have young.
Speaker 4: Kids, their children. I get that, but it cannot afford
Speaker 4: the old That's my point. You used to have to
Speaker 4: be that guy, you know, you had to work your
Speaker 4: way up to that, and that's kind of like you
Speaker 4: get it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, not to not to down play Justin. He does
Speaker 5: a great job, but he's a child. Yeah, he's a babe.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Seven.
Speaker 5: My wife has to take care of him and give
Speaker 5: him some screen and stuff.
Speaker 4: Like yeah, the redhead.
Speaker 3: Okay, So we'll talk to him then and then we
Speaker 3: have our picks some first weekend of picks.
Speaker 5: I have five Friday picks. I'm scared.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you shouldn't be scared. Even though I had a
Speaker 4: little parlay last night. I took North Dakota State and
Speaker 4: I had I had San Jose Steak pushed on the
Speaker 4: North Carolina game.
Speaker 5: So my three teamer became.
Speaker 3: Were you at any point worried about Colorado?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I thought I didn't, you know, I didn't think there
Speaker 4: was a point. I didn't think North Dakota State was
Speaker 4: going to cover because they were down eleven. They're down eleven,
Speaker 4: and I thought they need to go get a score.
Speaker 4: And actually I had gone out to dinner with my wife,
Speaker 4: went to a place that had TV's. The TV was
Speaker 4: behind her, so I could kind of look at her
Speaker 4: look up, look at her look up. But hey, dude,
Speaker 4: that's how you keep a marriage together, right, that's how
Speaker 4: you keep a marriage together. You line her up with
Speaker 4: the TV so that you're always looking in that direction.
Speaker 4: Would you just say, happy, happy wife, happy life. No wife,
Speaker 4: very nice.
Speaker 5: Don't listen to him, Do not listen to him.
Speaker 3: I remember that.
Speaker 4: I take no wife advice from from Steve. Anyways, Yes,
Speaker 4: I thought it was for you. I was big worried.
Speaker 4: I didn't think they were gonna come.
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, it was close. It was a pretty good game.
Speaker 4: Otherwise, I heard it on the radio or on you know,
Speaker 4: I'm like in the car on the way home that
Speaker 4: they scored the touchdown and I'm driving and trying.
Speaker 5: Not to throw a fist up.
Speaker 3: Well, when she was with you, right, she well, she
Speaker 3: she she knows.
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, it's it's ten thirty at night and
Speaker 4: I've got the San Jose Steak game up at the house.
Speaker 5: She knows he's just played it cool.
Speaker 4: She you know, she didn't say she she loves it.
Speaker 3: She loves be in denial.
Speaker 5: She she loves me.
Speaker 4: She loves me for more, for better or worse more,
Speaker 4: with all my flaws and scabs and scars for more
Speaker 4: marriage ships, just call me. It started football season, and
Speaker 4: I'm playing with house money, all right. I guess I
Speaker 4: got money left over from from last year or from basketball. Actually, okay,
Speaker 4: so I'm playing with house money.
Speaker 3: Were going five dollars a week again.
Speaker 4: Five bucks a week, and then we're also playing for
Speaker 4: the sixty dollars.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, entry, which I paid yours. You gotta do
Speaker 3: your audit from last year. Still from the five dollars
Speaker 3: a week?
Speaker 5: Think, Yeah, I got Yeah, I guess I got to figure.
Speaker 3: That out before we come forward.
Speaker 5: You know, I'll get it to you. So then we
Speaker 5: start playing.
Speaker 3: Okay, cool, I'll take a check or whatever.
Speaker 4: You don't want to check. Yeah, I remember the last time,
Speaker 4: remember really? I still I'm still I can't remember. No,
Speaker 4: I don't even know if we have checks. I just
Speaker 4: got a new batch for me. Yeah, taking from.
Speaker 3: You know, get into the twenty first century. Well yeah,
Speaker 3: hell no, dude, I'm gonna go with a kicking and screaming.
Speaker 3: I'd still do other things, but I still need checks anyways, Okay.
Speaker 4: Yeah, five Friday picks in the last segment. One, you
Speaker 4: can and make fun of us when we do this
Speaker 4: because you're you're you're, you're a Friday guy. And I
Speaker 4: was awful last year. He was the worst. I was awful.
Speaker 3: There was about eleven hundred, just roughly eleven hundred. I
Speaker 3: don't know where you actually felt, but you were in
Speaker 3: the last ten percent.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was over. There were one thousand and fifty
Speaker 4: seven in our pool, and I.
Speaker 5: Was in the nine hundreds.
Speaker 3: Oh were you rallied?
Speaker 5: I rallied the last last couple of weeks in.
Speaker 4: The season for this eighty seventh.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Steve Cash, I did not.
Speaker 4: Yeah, very nice.
Speaker 3: So that's why he's got to count his fibes five
Speaker 3: a week. We do a weekly five dollars bit.
Speaker 4: We go a weekly five dollars bed, and then it's
Speaker 4: it's sixty dollars for the season.
Speaker 5: Because that's the entry for this.
Speaker 3: There's still time, there's still time on Yeah, you got
Speaker 3: you got games.
Speaker 4: I'm not I'm not allowed to corrupt you guys. That's
Speaker 4: one thing my wife says, do not be corrupting the entry.
Speaker 4: But one if you want to join, if you want
Speaker 4: to get in on it, no pressure.
Speaker 5: I'm not going to stop you. I'll be able to say, one,
Speaker 5: asked me. He asked, he.
Speaker 3: Said, that's a was like fun, interesting, interesting.
Speaker 4: Then yeah, okay, okay, I actually have I actually have
Speaker 4: it right here, Steve. So let's see, I won three weeks,
Speaker 4: we tied one, two, three, four, five weeks.
Speaker 5: Okay, so that means you won the.
Speaker 4: Other eleven weeks. So I owe you fifty five dollars. Yes, no, no, no,
Speaker 4: I don't know you fifty five dollars. I owe you
Speaker 4: forty dollars because I won three and you won eleven weeks.
Speaker 5: Nineteen weeks.
Speaker 4: I won three, you won eleven week tied right here. Okay,
Speaker 4: so I called up last year's thing, So I owe
Speaker 4: you for eight weeks. I owe you forty dollars. So
Speaker 4: you wont one hundred dollars off me last year.
Speaker 3: Yeah, not bad, Okay, cool, that's cool. Forty dollars that
Speaker 3: I could spend one.
Speaker 4: I was thirty eight percent last year, and that was
Speaker 4: with a rally over the last over the last few weeks.
Speaker 4: In the last I went, I went, I went six eight,
Speaker 4: I went eleven out of I won eleven and nine
Speaker 4: over the last three weeks.
Speaker 3: No, you did it four week rallied to stay out
Speaker 3: of the basement.
Speaker 4: I went, oh, no, I was looking at Steve's. I
Speaker 4: went two, four, six, I went twelve. I went well
Speaker 4: twelve and thirteen over the last few weeks. But after
Speaker 4: going one for four to one for four, one for four,
Speaker 4: one and one for five and five, went in four
Speaker 4: to one and four. It was terrible.
Speaker 5: It was a terrible, terrible.
Speaker 4: It was good for me.
Speaker 3: Hey, just real quick, if anybody hasn't seen the Facebook,
Speaker 3: I want to have a show tomorrow from five o'clock.
Speaker 3: I know you pushed it on your Facebook or did
Speaker 3: you tweet it out? For No, I didn't not can
Speaker 3: could you? Because you're the tweeter guy, I'm the tweeter.
Speaker 3: You're a tweeter guy. I've been called you're a tweeter.
Speaker 3: I have a show with David Adams and Brian Neverans
Speaker 3: starts at five tomorrow on this station. Uh talking about
Speaker 3: the game on Saturday, a pregame show, kind of an
Speaker 3: alternate to the other guys. Uh So they wanted to
Speaker 3: do one, and they asked, and so we're doing it.
Speaker 3: Should be uh So we're gonna have fun for about
Speaker 3: an hour. I'm gonna call in five to six. We
Speaker 3: we're taking calls. Because we're taking a call, I call
Speaker 3: it call it from the from the from the tailgate.
Speaker 3: That's the one thing I'm gonna miss because I can't
Speaker 3: get out to the tailgate. But it'll be good to
Speaker 3: I've never really spent time with Byron, but it'll be fun. David,
Speaker 3: I have to control him.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so.
Speaker 3: Wish me a little luck.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna wish you no.
Speaker 3: Lou, I would have say please don't cuss because.
Speaker 4: You know what I mean, because one I'm gonna Say'm
Speaker 4: gonna say whatever you get, you deserve.
Speaker 3: Well, wish me luck.
Speaker 4: Anyway.
Speaker 3: So that'll be from five to six tomorrow before the game.
Speaker 3: If you have a chance to listen in it should
Speaker 3: be a lot of fun with the guys. Okay, let's move.
Speaker 3: We've got two hours two minutes here. We got Will
Speaker 3: Weber in about five minutes and justin like you said,
Speaker 3: uh last night, did you see uh.
Speaker 4: Wait one more point on last year I finished in
Speaker 4: nine and ninety third place. Yeah, I would be quiet
Speaker 4: fifty seven. Yeah, it was awful.
Speaker 3: That was that's less than ten percent. That's eight percent.
Speaker 3: Probably terrible. All right, what are gonna say, uh, last
Speaker 3: night's game with with the Colorado Uh, Dion of course wins,
Speaker 3: so you can talk a lot of crap. He was
Speaker 3: upset though, Yeah he was upset. He should be, yeah, you.
Speaker 4: Know he I didn't catch all the press conference. I
Speaker 4: just caught the highlights of it, the part where he said,
Speaker 4: you know, I'm upset with how we played. I'm upset
Speaker 4: with what we did, but I am happy we got
Speaker 4: the w. So there you go, and look and that's
Speaker 4: in a way to me. I don't know, give the
Speaker 4: other team some credit. They're good, No, they are. We
Speaker 4: saw them.
Speaker 3: We saw them.
Speaker 5: They're really good.
Speaker 4: I mean they they punch you in the face and
Speaker 4: they just keep coming at you no matter who you are.
Speaker 4: They say we're gonna run the ball, and they did.
Speaker 4: And you got to give him credit for that. And Dion,
Speaker 4: instead of saying, oh, we should have beat him worse,
Speaker 4: he should say.
Speaker 3: You know, they're good.
Speaker 4: We won the game, and you know this is a
Speaker 4: good team. You know they're every bit is advertised. Nice job.
Speaker 4: We're happy with the win, instead of oh, we you know,
Speaker 4: I'm pissed off, because you know what, take the win.
Speaker 3: Well, if you're if you're one of them. If you
Speaker 3: want fans, we only got a minute left. Uh, I
Speaker 3: think you're concerned. You're concerned about how good this team
Speaker 3: could be. You're not going to be because it's a
Speaker 3: lot like last year.
Speaker 4: But see Steve, I was not concerned at the time
Speaker 4: Arizona beat him by three what nor touchdown.
Speaker 3: It's a different it's a different situation. Back when Arizona
Speaker 3: beat them and struggle to beat them, they were still
Speaker 3: on the rise. They were trying to still kind of
Speaker 3: find their footing. Colorado's kind of like been hyped a little.
Speaker 3: Your your circumstances are different.
Speaker 4: Well, let me put it this way. If Arizona was
Speaker 4: playing North Dakota State next week and they won by
Speaker 4: the score of the Colorado being, No, I'd be happy
Speaker 4: because North North Cota State is good.
Speaker 3: No. No, I think you're your Your situation is different.
Speaker 4: I would not expect I would this year. This year,
Speaker 4: Oh wow, I would.
Speaker 3: I would think that they would by.
Speaker 4: More more, more, because it's about more, because it's about
Speaker 4: North Dakota State than about Yeah.
Speaker 3: No, no, I think I would be comfortable with I
Speaker 3: think it was just fourteen years ago.
Speaker 5: Three years ago, they had their first round draft pick
Speaker 5: a quarterback. Yeah, regards of whether they deserve to be one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was one. We gotta go. I'm glad we're
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Speaker 4: We're gonna argue, Yes, go right to hold the Will
Speaker 4: Weber Well, wherever the Santa Fe New Mexican, you'll be
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Speaker 1: Steve Rivera and Jagen Salez they have their eye on
Speaker 1: the ball on Tucson Sports Stag yet Fox Sports fourteen
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Speaker 3: Wapp Hey, welcome back to win the ball. Here a
Speaker 3: Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. He's jacinsausw On
Speaker 3: the phone. We have Will Webber, the sports editor of
Speaker 3: the Santa Fe New Mexican Just saying that Will makes
Speaker 3: me teary eyed from my hometown. How you doing? How
Speaker 3: long you're going to you? I didn't know you. I
Speaker 3: didn't know you were Santa Fe native or are you?
Speaker 7: Yeah? Well like yeah, I grew up in Santa Fe,
Speaker 7: went to Saint Mike's. Yeah, I mean you know, you know, Steve,
Speaker 7: it's there. The hundredth burning of it is over tonight, Yefe, which,
Speaker 7: of course they scheduled two high school games in town. Wow, Wow,
Speaker 7: traffic arm again, Tray, it's gonna be just terrible.
Speaker 5: Okay.
Speaker 3: For Jay. Jay's been in Tucson of his life. He's
Speaker 3: never left, So tell tell him about that, because to me,
Speaker 3: it's it's a huge thing.
Speaker 7: But you know, Santa Fe prides itself in being an
Speaker 7: old school Catholic town. But it's interesting because every August September,
Speaker 7: around Labor Day, they have this huge pagan ritual where
Speaker 7: they burned a forty foot puppet and and it's they
Speaker 7: they call him old Man Gloom and when he goes
Speaker 7: up in flames in every way, I mean, they get thousands,
Speaker 7: tens of thousands of people out there. You're supposed to
Speaker 7: come out of feeling happy, but anyone who lives in
Speaker 7: Santa Fe tends to avoid it. It's more of a
Speaker 7: tourist thing because, oh my gosh, that that that area
Speaker 7: of downtown turns into a zoo at night. Oh man,
Speaker 7: if you've never seen it, it's it's like burning man
Speaker 7: with a New Mexico flavor is basically what it is.
Speaker 3: Right. They used to have this on Liberty Weekend with
Speaker 3: a lot of festivities. They moved the fiestas to next
Speaker 3: week because it got so crazy. Things happened, and yeah,
Speaker 3: so here we are. You are okay, well, alcohol consumption welcome. Yeah,
Speaker 3: any normal data that would be the case.
Speaker 4: But this is we can.
Speaker 3: Well, let's talk about the Wildcats and the Lobos. I
Speaker 3: thought your calm was a very good one after the
Speaker 3: loss to Montana State. I guess last week it's already
Speaker 3: basketball season and Abuquerque.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, you know, you can't lose to an FCS team.
Speaker 7: I understand my Panas State comes in rank. They were
Speaker 7: four in the SCS and they were actually a thirteen
Speaker 7: point favorite, but my goodness, the way they imploded in
Speaker 7: the last five minutes. They had him on the ropes
Speaker 7: throw up by ten and gave up a ninety three
Speaker 7: yard touchdown run and then just they had this horrible
Speaker 7: dropped pass. And I'll say this, you know, Danny and Zales,
Speaker 7: your your defensive, your linebackers, and special teams. Coach little
Speaker 7: Wildcats coach here the last three years, and he knows
Speaker 7: that team better than anyone on earth, and plussed. He
Speaker 7: took his best running back with him to Arizona, too,
Speaker 7: which is it's gonna make for a long Saturday night.
Speaker 3: So so my partner here text me about half time.
Speaker 3: I'm just about half time and what did you say?
Speaker 4: It was? It was, I say, I said, I said,
Speaker 4: look at the Lobos. The Wildcats are in big trouble.
Speaker 3: So is that right? Well that gave that gave the
Speaker 3: Lobos the kiss it death.
Speaker 5: I'm known as the kiss of death.
Speaker 7: Well, friends texting me, he said, oh my guys, looking,
Speaker 7: they're going to blow him out, Like, yeah, the game's
Speaker 7: not over. They're by seventeen. It is definitely not over.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Well that well, that's when I texted Steve because I
Speaker 4: was golfing, I mean California, and I was golfing and
Speaker 4: then I just got curious and looked up to the
Speaker 4: score and they were up by seventeen, and so I
Speaker 4: texted Steve and I said, what the hell? I didn't
Speaker 4: realize because I hadn't been watching the game, I didn't
Speaker 4: realize two of the touchdowns were Fumbel recovery, so it
Speaker 4: wasn't like they were running up and down the field
Speaker 4: on them. They just got a couple of breaks exactly.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and you look, I mean Montana State. They just
Speaker 7: shredded him. Ran for three hundred and fifty yards they
Speaker 7: just killed them on the ground. So it's it's it's
Speaker 7: a new coach, it's a brand new system. They got
Speaker 7: a lot of new players, and the fact is they're
Speaker 7: they're a bottom feeder in the Mountain West Conference, and
Speaker 7: so it's it is truly just a it's a perpetual
Speaker 7: rebuilding project for the football program at un M.
Speaker 3: Did did Gonzales This may be a dumb question, but
Speaker 3: did did go Zalees get a fair shake? Or no?
Speaker 3: Or anybody there is going to have trouble?
Speaker 7: Yeah, And here's the thing is he came in right
Speaker 7: at the start of the pandemic, so his first year
Speaker 7: he faced just an incredible challenge. It's really unique because
Speaker 7: they that team had to spend the entire season in Henderson, Nevada,
Speaker 7: which is.
Speaker 5: What you know, oh yeah, Las Vegas.
Speaker 7: They were out there for all seven weeks. They played
Speaker 7: every all seven of their games out of state, and
Speaker 7: they were sequestered in a hotel in Anderson that entire time.
Speaker 7: So the team never had a chance to leave. They
Speaker 7: never had they never had fans at any games, and
Speaker 7: they were the only team that played the every game
Speaker 7: on the road that season. So you kind of give
Speaker 7: them a mulligan for that first year they went two
Speaker 7: and five. They won the last two games, so you're thinking,
Speaker 7: all right, they got some momentum. They come back and
Speaker 7: it was just and never really got going after that.
Speaker 7: And I don't know if it's his fault or if
Speaker 7: it's a systematic thing, but Dan, I'm sure Danny would
Speaker 7: tell you off the record that it's there's just not
Speaker 7: the kind of support at U and M financially that
Speaker 7: you're going to get at a PAC twelve. I remember
Speaker 7: I did a podcast with him when he first started.
Speaker 7: He said, look, you can go to the lowest level
Speaker 7: Pack twelve school and go to their facility, as in
Speaker 7: their facility there are five times better than the best
Speaker 7: thing you're gonna get in the Mountain West. And that's
Speaker 7: the fact of life. And so you can do the
Speaker 7: best with which you can and recruit the best you
Speaker 7: can to Albuquerque, which is not easy for a kid
Speaker 7: to fly over hours of desert to get to New
Speaker 7: Mexico to see this place and to understand that you're
Speaker 7: playing for a team that always seems to struggle. So
Speaker 7: did he get a fair shake? You know? I think
Speaker 7: they get some opportunities to win, but The bottom line
Speaker 7: is it is it is not an easy place to
Speaker 7: succeed in football at UM and M.
Speaker 4: Well, it just you know, I don't know if the
Speaker 4: right words culturally or as a as a as a
Speaker 4: as a university that I mean, are you do they
Speaker 4: not really care about it? Then?
Speaker 5: Is that?
Speaker 4: Is? That?
Speaker 1: Is?
Speaker 5: That?
Speaker 4: Are those the signs that you're getting in? And that
Speaker 4: just let zero in on basketball kind of like what's
Speaker 4: happened over Yukon and maybe a couple of other schools
Speaker 4: that were basketball.
Speaker 5: Is the deal? I mean? Do they just not care
Speaker 5: enough about it?
Speaker 7: Yeah? Yeah, Well that's it's just the facility is not
Speaker 7: great at you and M either. The seats thirty seven
Speaker 7: thirty eight thousand, and it's just it's outdated. They really
Speaker 7: haven't done any major upgrades to the place. You know,
Speaker 7: they do some cosmetic stuff like new turf, from lights
Speaker 7: and all that, but Albuquerque, you're talking about a metropolitan
Speaker 7: area that's close to a million people and they they
Speaker 7: struggle to get fifteen thousand fans per game there. You
Speaker 7: could you could basically give away tickets and people just
Speaker 7: aren't going to go. And that's just the way it is.
Speaker 7: Twenty years ago, they averaged had a three year stretch
Speaker 7: where they averaged about thirty five to thirty six thousand
Speaker 7: fans for three straight seasons, and that was definitely the
Speaker 7: high watermark of football interest in the city of Albuquerque.
Speaker 7: But at the same time, the men's basketball team was struggling,
Speaker 7: So while that part waned, it grew for football. But
Speaker 7: very rarely, if ever, do you ever see football and
Speaker 7: basketball succeed at the same time at the University of Mexico.
Speaker 7: And historically it's a it's a basketball school and they
Speaker 7: football is I would even call it an afterthought. It's
Speaker 7: just it's just something to do to pass the time
Speaker 7: until you get to the first game of the basketball season.
Speaker 5: Wow.
Speaker 3: So I asked you if you were going to come
Speaker 3: down and he says, no, I think I'm going to
Speaker 3: pass after had they won, Had they won, you would
Speaker 3: have been here. You would have been here.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't know. Look, you're talking about playing a
Speaker 7: nationally ranked team. It's not going to be good. I
Speaker 7: would say this. Corey Krossy Merritt is one of the
Speaker 7: better running backs New Mexico has had in the last
Speaker 7: probably two decades. And this guy, he has run against
Speaker 7: that defense every day for the last three or four years.
Speaker 7: And this is a guy who's never really had a
Speaker 7: great offensive line blocking for him, and you put him
Speaker 7: in that system where they're going to feature him against
Speaker 7: a team that he knows better than anybody. I'd say, Jacorey,
Speaker 7: just hydrate yourself because you might get cramping on the
Speaker 7: second quarter. Because this kid could run for two hundred
Speaker 7: and fifty yards tomorrow. And so it's hard to sell
Speaker 7: that when the newspaper industry is what it is. When
Speaker 7: I go to my editor and say, hey, how about
Speaker 7: sending me down to Tucson to watch a game where
Speaker 7: you and m could lose by fifty points at a
Speaker 7: game that starts at eight thirty our time on double Yeah,
Speaker 7: that's a hard sell.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, you're saving the money, You're saving the money.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, Well well okay, so what so what are
Speaker 4: we going to see tomorrow? I think that you know,
Speaker 4: I mean, we saw what we saw on Saturday, but
Speaker 4: I believe that, you know, there's a there's a little
Speaker 4: advantage to having played a game you come into Tucson.
Speaker 4: I'm not saying that they're gonna beat him, but I
Speaker 4: kind of feel like they'll put up a fight.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and they could. And here's the thing is is
Speaker 7: Bronco Menenhall is he is the best coach that they
Speaker 7: could get at that time. And the thing is Bronco
Speaker 7: has taken over a couple program. When he took over
Speaker 7: by U and then we took over Virginia, he walked
Speaker 7: into two places that already had some infrastructure in place,
Speaker 7: they had talent, they had some debt. He doesn't. He
Speaker 7: didn't have that here. And his roster has got a
Speaker 7: lot of young kids on it. And bottom of the
Speaker 7: thing is New Mexico and schools like it, like San
Speaker 7: Jose State. There are number schools throughout the Mountain West.
Speaker 7: They are essentially triple A teams to the bigger schools.
Speaker 7: And you have success at a skill position or something
Speaker 7: like that, the bigger schools are going to come take
Speaker 7: those guys away from you, Like Corey. That's an example
Speaker 7: right there. So you do the best you can with
Speaker 7: what you have. And I think Bronco. Look, Bronco is
Speaker 7: a tactician. He's not a raw rock guy. Danny was
Speaker 7: a raw rock guy where he could get a guy
Speaker 7: to light himself on fire and run through a brick wall.
Speaker 7: Where Bronco Menen Hall is more of He's very easily.
Speaker 7: I've described him like this, He's like an empty cardboard box.
Speaker 7: He's got that kind of personality. But the guy knows football,
Speaker 7: he knows the X and knows part of it. And
Speaker 7: if he can get these guys to buy into the
Speaker 7: mental side of it, I think they could be okay.
Speaker 7: But let's face it, they're not going to win that
Speaker 7: game tomorrow and they're going to struggle to win two
Speaker 7: or three games this season. But it's a start, so
Speaker 7: we'll see where he goes from there.
Speaker 3: And we're talking to Will Webber, the sports enteror of
Speaker 3: the Santa Fe New Mexican So what's the outlook? What
Speaker 3: did you think going in for the season? What how
Speaker 3: many games do you think they're going to win?
Speaker 7: You know, I really didn't think they're gonna beat Montana State,
Speaker 7: even though Monte like a research in Montana State, and
Speaker 7: they're tough, they're they're they got some size and they
Speaker 7: do run the ball hard and they're just a team
Speaker 7: that plays with confidence. But I thought New Mexico could
Speaker 7: win that game. I think they could still be New
Speaker 7: Mexico State because they lost their head coach and they're
Speaker 7: kind of look. New Mexico State is the little brother
Speaker 7: in the state of New Mexico, so I think they
Speaker 7: could win that one and maybe it seems like historically
Speaker 7: you and M always picks off a team inside the conference.
Speaker 7: Last year they knocked off Fresno State. I have no
Speaker 7: idea how that happened, but they This is a team
Speaker 7: that hasn't won more than four games since Bob Davy
Speaker 7: was a coach back in twenty sixteen. So I think
Speaker 7: the high water mark for any team going in any
Speaker 7: season is maybe four and eight. But I thought the
Speaker 7: team would probably go two and ten, maybe win one
Speaker 7: game the conference. But after losing to Montanna's DY, now
Speaker 7: I'm kind of rethinking that maybe they might just be
Speaker 7: the Mexicas Dy and go one and eleven.
Speaker 3: Yeah. No. In fact, we had Bob debut on the
Speaker 3: show maybe a year or so ago, and I'm having
Speaker 3: known the New Mexico program. I said, you go there
Speaker 3: kind of you have to do really well and get
Speaker 3: the hell out because it's a job that you go
Speaker 3: probably to get fired.
Speaker 7: Yeah. The thing is, like Bob. What I loved about
Speaker 7: Bob is during his weekly press conference, he was so
Speaker 7: good at having fireside chats. Boy, he would get there
Speaker 7: and he would tell stories about his days a textas
Speaker 7: a and m in Notre Dame. But you're like, okay, Bob,
Speaker 7: let's talk about New Mexico. The message that he had was,
Speaker 7: it's like this, the toughest part about coaching in New
Speaker 7: Mexico is the recruiting, because you can if you can
Speaker 7: get a kid in an airplane to have him come
Speaker 7: to Albuquerque and sell him on the program, that's a
Speaker 7: win for you. But the problem is actually getting him
Speaker 7: to come to New Mexico, to put him on an
Speaker 7: airplane to get here, because unlike recruiting a kid to
Speaker 7: a Texas school where the kid might have a family,
Speaker 7: has to drive a few hours. There is no direct
Speaker 7: route to Talbuquerque. You're you're you're driving hours and hours
Speaker 7: upon hours to get to this the state, so you're
Speaker 7: in a lot of ways, you're kind of on an island.
Speaker 7: And he said that was the toughest thing is to
Speaker 7: convince a kid to leave a place that has a
Speaker 7: lot of people to come to a school that doesn't
Speaker 7: and see what you can do. And plus there's not
Speaker 7: a lot of history here, so that it's the mentality
Speaker 7: of us against the world and let's build something special.
Speaker 7: But that's become the rallying cry for this program for years,
Speaker 7: for decades. Well, sometimes it works. Most of the time
Speaker 7: it doesn't.
Speaker 4: Well, Jay, what was rich Rod's the thing here?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, you got to get him, you gotta get him here,
Speaker 4: just got to get him here. Now, the difference that
Speaker 4: rich Rod said was if you get him here, you go.
Speaker 4: You got a good chance of keeping them here, which
Speaker 4: you know, I mean he had some good players and
Speaker 4: there have been some good players have come through here,
Speaker 4: but you know too soons in a lot of ways
Speaker 4: like that. It's hard to get here from a lot
Speaker 4: of places. But uh yeah, you know, I don't know.
Speaker 4: I don't know how Jed did it, how Jed Fish
Speaker 4: did it, but he got some guys and that's what
Speaker 4: Arizona's gonna put on.
Speaker 5: How I feel tomorrow?
Speaker 3: How is the NIL up there? Because I've heard some
Speaker 3: commercials up there when I've been home a time or two.
Speaker 3: At least start making a try up there.
Speaker 7: Yeah, the NIL, I'll give them credit. They did structure it.
Speaker 7: They were one of the first schools to really have
Speaker 7: an infrastructure in place for the NIL, and they were
Speaker 7: lucky because there just happened to be an attorney here
Speaker 7: in town, Kurt Roth, who understood the contract part of it,
Speaker 7: and so he built an NIL system that was really
Speaker 7: strong and very well developed. And look, they've got enough
Speaker 7: money to pay some players in basketball to keep some
Speaker 7: guys around. They're fairly competitive, and they're more advanced than
Speaker 7: a lot of the other Mountain West schools, which gives
Speaker 7: them a huge advantage. But it's when the New Mexico
Speaker 7: basketball team was a NANCAA tournament they played back in
Speaker 7: Memphis in March, and I sat down with this guy
Speaker 7: and he said, the biggest challenge for building me here
Speaker 7: is there's no Microsoft, there's no Starbucks, there's no FedEx plan,
Speaker 7: there's no huge corporation in Albuquerque. So you're relying on donors,
Speaker 7: the individual donors of the alumni to come forward and
Speaker 7: contribute a one hundred bucks a month or whatever it
Speaker 7: is and do that. He said, But it's a fair
Speaker 7: weather place. People will support that. They'll give money for
Speaker 7: the basketball team, but they don't want to give money
Speaker 7: to the football team because they want to wait and
Speaker 7: see where their money's going to go and if they
Speaker 7: can actually buy a running back, and so they're having
Speaker 7: a hard time getting enough money to really build a
Speaker 7: solid anil for the football team, but the basketball team
Speaker 7: is separate. The basketball team is actually doing pretty well
Speaker 7: with that. And it's funny because men like, look, I'm
Speaker 7: old enough to have worked in the newspaper industry to
Speaker 7: remember the olden days when it was a huge violation
Speaker 7: to pay an athlete. Now you show up to practice
Speaker 7: and these guys are driving in in Tesla trucks. BMW's like, Holy,
Speaker 7: this guy's got a car that's more expensive than my house. Yeah,
Speaker 7: but that's the nature of the nil these days, is there.
Speaker 7: There's a lot of money to go around, but you
Speaker 7: have to be doing the right thing first.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm glad you didn't say the named Clemson because
Speaker 3: the people here still fuck out about Clemson. You and
Speaker 3: him couldn't beat up neither to Arizona. Yeah, hey, Will,
Speaker 3: thanks a bunch of I know, the Gonzales Gil Gonzalez
Speaker 3: family wanted me to say, hello, all right.
Speaker 7: There you go, Yeah for sure. Yeah, yeah, I'll keep
Speaker 7: a candle burning for you.
Speaker 3: Stay out of trouble. Remember, yes, pie for me.
Speaker 5: Thanks, that was fun. I appreciate it.
Speaker 7: Thank you.
Speaker 3: Will talk to here, all right, Yeah, we'll well, we'll weiber.
Speaker 5: It just sounds like they have no hope.
Speaker 3: Well it's it's in a way, he's talking a little
Speaker 3: about Arizona, except Arizona is better, if that makes any sense. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I've always said that ariz Albuquerque's like Tucson with snow.
Speaker 3: But here's you're in the pac twelve. You have to compete.
Speaker 3: I have no choice but to compete. But being in
Speaker 3: the Pact weelve help help helps, no question. That's one
Speaker 3: of you guys wanted to get out of the mountain
Speaker 3: West of the.
Speaker 4: Exactly and that that that's exactly it. You know, you
Speaker 4: know if Arizona's still in the Mountain West, they're in
Speaker 4: New Mexico.
Speaker 3: The New Mexico.
Speaker 4: They're New Mexico, the Colorado State, their Wyoming, Utah is
Speaker 4: the same thing you have been the same thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no, no, it's all of a sudden you
Speaker 3: can buy me love right whatever he is what he is,
Speaker 3: but he got noticed right either by pay and he
Speaker 3: got noticed and he was big time.
Speaker 5: He was a big time.
Speaker 3: That's Arizona compared to these that that.
Speaker 4: I mean, that was the discussion all the way back
Speaker 4: when Arizona did go to the pack pack ten and
Speaker 4: they said, we need, we need to put on some
Speaker 4: big boy pants.
Speaker 3: Well and issue wanted to no, you don't. Yeah, we
Speaker 3: we like our pants right where they are, because exactly
Speaker 3: we gotta go and come back.
Speaker 4: All right, we're gonna take a break. We'd love to
Speaker 4: take your calls, and I'm gonna argue with Steve some
Speaker 4: more about North Dakota State. Yeah, okay, we'll be right.
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Speaker 3: Hey, welcome back to my in the ballgirl Fox Sports
Speaker 3: fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. He's chicken saws. Got a
Speaker 3: guy one today. Kind of want to give him a
Speaker 3: car and go to Santa Fe. Get there just in
Speaker 3: time for the big events.
Speaker 4: You got to google.
Speaker 3: You got to google.
Speaker 5: You'll see what is second out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, No, that was a lot of fun. We
Speaker 3: kind of know that they're not good. It's gonna take it.
Speaker 3: You go there to get fired, dude. We talked to
Speaker 3: the UTEB guy who's the former of the former U
Speaker 3: big coach here who eventually fire remember last year. Uh,
Speaker 3: those those places are just very difficult, man.
Speaker 4: And I guess I wonder what the expectations are, right,
Speaker 4: I mean if a coaches comes there and you're not
Speaker 4: giving them the resources and the ability to win, and
Speaker 4: why are you firing them?
Speaker 7: What do you think?
Speaker 4: You know, unless they're just like terrible people and they're
Speaker 4: not treating their players, why do you why do you
Speaker 4: keep firing guys?
Speaker 3: I think because well I think you know, we talked
Speaker 3: to Nunaz, right, and you have those ads who want
Speaker 3: to win too, uh desire he said, talked about it.
Speaker 3: They want to win championships, right, What's what's the thing
Speaker 3: to do here? Win championships? I do think you just
Speaker 3: want to be competitive in your own league, right, and
Speaker 3: if you're not even doing that, that's the difficult And
Speaker 3: he said tenth, he wanted the bottom beater of the league.
Speaker 7: Ye.
Speaker 5: God, you got to give of a not a very
Speaker 5: good league.
Speaker 3: League, right, and it's still a Division one kind of
Speaker 3: a pretty program, pretty big deal at least in basketball.
Speaker 7: It is.
Speaker 3: It's tough, man, It's it's tough. Like that whole quarter.
Speaker 3: They did a big story on the I twenty five
Speaker 3: Mexico State, uh, New New Mexico and up the road
Speaker 3: Colorado State up alleyway where.
Speaker 5: It's it's difficult and it's tough to get.
Speaker 3: It's different, and you are kind of like the second
Speaker 3: second string or you know, uh, because you Colorado State's
Speaker 3: second to Colorado, New Mexico State, second to U and M.
Speaker 3: And even then that's there's a it's sun.
Speaker 15: It is what it is.
Speaker 4: But I don't know if it changes, yeah, I hear you.
Speaker 3: I just well it did here because forever it wasn't
Speaker 3: a SU the big brother. Right, it changed here, it did,
Speaker 3: but it took. It took special coaches to do that right, right,
Speaker 3: and took a special coach. It took Larry Smith to
Speaker 3: do that, and he right and then he left, but
Speaker 3: he he came here, you know, famously said the number
Speaker 3: one priority is to beat a s U because it
Speaker 3: was like a no other things aren't possible until you can.
Speaker 4: Start beating as And how long did it take?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 5: He beat him in his.
Speaker 4: Second year after losing to lose in Arizona had lost
Speaker 4: like fifteen of the previous sixteen.
Speaker 3: Or something like that. Okay, so yeah, you have to
Speaker 3: make that other priority.
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, how is the how is the fan base back then?
Speaker 3: When it when the Arizona when they couldn't beat the issue,
Speaker 3: we hated it.
Speaker 4: Oh it was awful, I mean, but it wasn't a
Speaker 4: give up kind of thing. It was a what the
Speaker 4: hell do we have to do to beat those guys?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 7: Uh?
Speaker 4: Arizona fans hated that the ASU game would come up
Speaker 4: and Arzona just get their ass kicked every time. But
Speaker 4: it wasn't like it wasn't a hopeless feeling. It was
Speaker 4: we got to do something to fix this. Yeah, And
Speaker 4: when Larry Smith made that a priority, people loved seeing
Speaker 4: that become a priority, and then when he fulfilled it
Speaker 4: by by starting to beat them in uh in nineteen.
Speaker 4: It was his second year that they beat him in
Speaker 4: eighty two, you know, And it's funny because his first
Speaker 4: year a SU kicked their ass. Is here forty four
Speaker 4: to seven, beat the hell out of them, and then
Speaker 4: Maxwell was a middle linebacker played in the NFL. They
Speaker 4: just beat the hell out of Arizona. The next year
Speaker 4: it was it was a close game. I think it
Speaker 4: was like twenty four to thirteen or up at ASU. Yeah,
Speaker 4: but ASU wins. Then the next year ASU comes down here.
Speaker 4: All they got to do is win and they're in
Speaker 4: the Rose Bowl and Arizona bludgeons them.
Speaker 5: And that started that streak.
Speaker 4: So you know, there was a feeling that Arizona was
Speaker 4: gaining on him the minute Larry Smith got here. And
Speaker 4: so you know, and that's what and you know, what
Speaker 4: Larry said was true that no other things were possible.
Speaker 4: Arizona could not become a program that deserved any respect
Speaker 4: until it started beating. It started beating it's in state rifle,
Speaker 4: and that's what happened. Still never got to a Rose Bull.
Speaker 4: But while ACU did but nonetheless, you know a lot
Speaker 4: of people considered Arizona from that point on the better
Speaker 4: program in the state. Yeah, so it took a coach.
Speaker 5: I mean, Arizona ACE.
Speaker 4: Has been to two Roseballs and Arizona's been to none.
Speaker 4: But those are the two outliers for ASU. Arizona's been
Speaker 4: better than them every other year. Yeah, wow, excepting years.
Speaker 3: And most most years and then very much. And basketball
Speaker 3: was the opposite. There was on a dominated right.
Speaker 4: But I guess, but was never caught up to Arizona
Speaker 4: in that Yeah, not even is not even. I mean
Speaker 4: the gap just keeps getting snighter and wider in the
Speaker 4: whack years leading up to that issue, in the early
Speaker 4: PAC ten years, yeah, it was ASU. The tail end
Speaker 4: of the Fred Snowden years, and even during the Friends
Speaker 4: Zone years, ACU was really damn good and Arizona had
Speaker 4: a tough time, a tough time with them, and Lou
Speaker 4: turned that around as well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, anybody want to call me how some time
Speaker 3: we got about nine minutes five two zero four one,
Speaker 3: six seventy four forty I.
Speaker 5: Mean, what one more point on that?
Speaker 4: I mean, if you ask any Arizona fan whether they're
Speaker 4: a football fan, or a big basketball fan, and you
Speaker 4: you ask them, you know what matters, and they'll tell you, well,
Speaker 4: first we got to beat a c O. You know.
Speaker 4: It's kind of like when when all that turned around,
Speaker 4: that made that made Arizona fans in both sports, you know,
Speaker 4: begin to believe that they could they could do something. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well the good old days, the good old days,
Speaker 3: and here we are. Okay, you want to talk about
Speaker 3: North Dakota State as well.
Speaker 4: I just continue to make the point North Dakota States,
Speaker 4: Notuth Dakota State, even Montana State.
Speaker 5: They're really good programs.
Speaker 4: They they're probably you know, they're they're probably middle to
Speaker 4: high level. No, if a group of five teams, right,
Speaker 4: they're in the Whack or the or the Mountain West,
Speaker 4: they're in the upper in the upper half.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no question.
Speaker 4: So you know, so to me, and if you're in
Speaker 4: the upper half of say a Mountain West, then you
Speaker 4: can beat Colorado. Now you might not beat them, you
Speaker 4: may beat them two out of ten, but you can
Speaker 4: beat them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll give you that.
Speaker 5: And so so my point of of.
Speaker 4: Dion being pissed that they barely beat them, take the win,
Speaker 4: give the the team some respect and otherwise, shut the
Speaker 4: hell up, is what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 3: You're asking for too much.
Speaker 4: I'm to shut the hell out too much. What do
Speaker 4: you think the thing that flies?
Speaker 6: We talked about how Arizona played North Dakota two years ago.
Speaker 6: It was a different situation for us. We were on
Speaker 6: we were trying to still trying to get out right
Speaker 6: for Colorado. They're saying they're here right now.
Speaker 5: And they're not. They're not, They're not.
Speaker 3: That's that's my point point.
Speaker 4: Although I will make the point because I know, you know,
Speaker 4: I've been beating the drum that that no Fa is
Speaker 4: better than she Door Sanders, and yet why should do
Speaker 4: Sanders getting all this attention?
Speaker 5: He's really damn good. He's really good, and.
Speaker 3: He has actually the one two combination up there is
Speaker 3: just similar to what Arizona's and they're gonna be relied
Speaker 3: on both.
Speaker 5: Because Travis Hunter is really good too.
Speaker 4: I think Arizona's got more skill players, more talent, but
Speaker 4: those two guys are pretty damn good. So you know,
Speaker 4: I mean, well, in the first I think the first
Speaker 4: five play offensive plays, they had a seventy one yard
Speaker 4: touchdown and a forty some yard touchdown.
Speaker 3: Well, it was clear last night. Last night, well, it
Speaker 3: was very clear that they were more athletically gifted of
Speaker 3: the top to bottom. Right, But in North Kinta State
Speaker 3: had some pedigree kind of like football pedigree that kept
Speaker 3: them in the game and kept them smart. The quarterback
Speaker 3: was pretty good too.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Well, and in North Dakota State. And then again, the
Speaker 4: concern that I guess if you're a Colorado fan that
Speaker 4: you have is the way North Dakota State pushed them,
Speaker 4: pushed them around on the lines. Yeah, which is what
Speaker 4: they did Arizona two years ago, right, I mean we
Speaker 4: walked out of that. I know, I walked out of
Speaker 4: that game. They came Arizona's got some issues on the line,
Speaker 4: and they did. But you know they managed, you get
Speaker 4: five wins out of that team.
Speaker 3: And that game was privotal because they won the game.
Speaker 3: They felt good about themselves and you can kind of
Speaker 3: see the progress. Have they lost that game, maybe the
Speaker 3: trajectory changes a bit. Yeah, Hi, you're on the air
Speaker 3: and nine the ball.
Speaker 16: He's Richard.
Speaker 3: How you guys doing Richard?
Speaker 5: What's up?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 16: Jay, listen, be careful. Steve is completely trying to uh
Speaker 16: pull the wool over your eyes. He's down playing New
Speaker 16: Mexico intentionally. He's completely sandbagging on this game. They're no good.
Speaker 16: They're a good team and they're gonna get Arizona hard
Speaker 16: time for a while.
Speaker 1: Richard, he's sand bagging.
Speaker 16: See Jay, he he is a New Mexican in the end,
Speaker 16: he's over here in Arizona and he's a local, local steate.
Speaker 1: Guy and everything.
Speaker 7: You know he is from New Mexico.
Speaker 3: Wait wait, wait did we watch We didn't screen this coming, Richard,
Speaker 3: this is you blink twice because I don't know if
Speaker 3: this is Richard. You know better than to say this
Speaker 3: team sucks.
Speaker 16: Listen, he's completely he's just sandbagging. He's Sanda Bagon. No,
Speaker 16: let's see so tonight we Oh, here's my prediction for
Speaker 16: the football season.
Speaker 7: Uh, you're gonna like it.
Speaker 16: Jay, Oklahoma is going to make it.
Speaker 1: To the playoffs.
Speaker 16: Uh, and Arizona is too. We will rematch in the
Speaker 16: Rose Bowl. This is over there, man, it's going to
Speaker 16: be a huge party.
Speaker 3: See this is not Richard.
Speaker 4: Richard, you say those things to me, and I feel
Speaker 4: like I need to leave the room and go, you know,
Speaker 4: do some things.
Speaker 16: Well, the problem is Oklahoma's going to win yeah, and.
Speaker 4: You really yeah, okay, truthfully, truthfully, do you really, I
Speaker 4: mean really tell me what you how you think they'll
Speaker 4: do in the SEC this year?
Speaker 16: You know, I think we're expecting, we're hoping to finish third,
Speaker 16: and that's that's a typical and the Big Twelve we
Speaker 16: would we would always expect to win. So our expectations
Speaker 16: are different now and so we'll just see, you know,
Speaker 16: it's going to be a long, grueling battle season, so
Speaker 16: we'll see how Jackson.
Speaker 7: Arnold does you know?
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 16: That's the key because he's as good turns out to
Speaker 16: be a Baker Mayfield or Sam Bradford. We got a
Speaker 16: good chance to finish the second or third. You know,
Speaker 16: we've beating all those teams before, every single one of them.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, well that's.
Speaker 14: Yeah, he'st coach.
Speaker 16: He's recruiting at a very high level right now.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so.
Speaker 3: You must be happy that Riley is probably going to
Speaker 3: be struggling.
Speaker 16: I'm predicting he beats l s U.
Speaker 4: Really mindy is that mondy?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 16: Game with this quarterback, that's your great passor I've bet
Speaker 16: linked is ready for that game. And don't let's you
Speaker 16: lets you starting a new quarterback, so that's a big
Speaker 16: disadvantage for them.
Speaker 7: Yeah all right, man, okay.
Speaker 4: Great, Hey Richard, alright, I'm not sure that was rich.
Speaker 3: I couldn't be rich if someone kidnapped come up with
Speaker 3: these theories to be to be well, I'll talk about
Speaker 3: this later because I have that game. I have that game, okay,
Speaker 3: but we'll see what happens. Rochard Richard doesn't call this
Speaker 3: that he brings ustule, you know what.
Speaker 5: I love the juice we're getting about football season though.
Speaker 4: This is great.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, it's a good way to start.
Speaker 4: I'm happy, you know, football seasons here. We've been talking
Speaker 4: about it for so damn long. Let's get it started.
Speaker 4: I you know, you know, God, after talking to Well,
Speaker 4: I just feel like, you know, Arizona should win like
Speaker 4: fifty to nothing. I don't know, you know, and I well,
Speaker 4: I remember, but I'm not. I'm not even thinking about,
Speaker 4: you know, giving the points in that game. I just
Speaker 4: don't know too many for a first.
Speaker 3: When when I made then announcement, I don't know, a
Speaker 3: month ago or something that I can't remember what it
Speaker 3: was I said, I put the game up and blah
Speaker 3: blah blah. First game and someone asked me, what do
Speaker 3: you think the score is gonna be. I think it's
Speaker 3: gonna be like forty eight to ten. And they said,
Speaker 3: oh really, and this is a month or so ago.
Speaker 3: Now I'll stand by that number. Yeah, it's a it's
Speaker 3: a cover, but it's maybe a pre curious.
Speaker 4: Well when I hear from from from Will Weber that month,
Speaker 4: I didn't see the statute, but that Montana State ran
Speaker 4: for three hundred plus yards. Was going to try and
Speaker 4: run the ball on them, and if they can, they're
Speaker 4: gonna keep running. Sure, now they're gonna you know, they're
Speaker 4: gonna ring it out too, because they're gonna do They
Speaker 4: want to do a lot of stuff, right, They want
Speaker 4: to run the ball, run, run the passing offense and
Speaker 4: stuff like that. But if they can run the ball
Speaker 4: and start doing things that will who knows what happens, right, And.
Speaker 3: It's a whole game. It's a first game. We'll see
Speaker 3: how many people show up. Probably about forty five, forty
Speaker 3: seven maybe, Yeah, I heard tickets are in the in
Speaker 3: the low forties, full forties. Yeah, no, shock, right, it's
Speaker 3: a weekend. If it's La Tucson big weenies, damn it.
Speaker 3: Oh excuse me, Are you generalizing? Are you generalized?
Speaker 5: I am generalizing?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, did you did you dump that one a
Speaker 3: bit ago?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: What what was?
Speaker 7: What was?
Speaker 5: I'm gonna have to check it out.
Speaker 4: When did you hear?
Speaker 5: I thought he said the S word.
Speaker 4: No, I don't think so.
Speaker 3: I don't think so.
Speaker 5: He either said shoot or yeah.
Speaker 3: I think he I think I didn't.
Speaker 5: He might have.
Speaker 4: It might have been.
Speaker 3: It was close.
Speaker 5: It was close enough that I thought we needed to
Speaker 5: hit the dump.
Speaker 3: I looked at it. I looked at it. What did
Speaker 3: he say?
Speaker 5: He either said shoot?
Speaker 4: I think yeah, yeah, No, I think he said shoot.
Speaker 16: Uh.
Speaker 3: You know he's a good Catholic boy.
Speaker 4: What are you talking about?
Speaker 5: I'm a good Catholic boy.
Speaker 3: No, that's good and catholic for you should not be
Speaker 3: in the same sense.
Speaker 5: Okay, I'm a Catholic boy. Well I'm kind of not
Speaker 5: even that. I'm kind of a heathen.
Speaker 4: What can I do?
Speaker 3: So right there? Tells me exactly what I know. Okay,
Speaker 3: we gotta go. This is the first hour was pretty fun.
Speaker 5: Yeah, this is fun. We're still gonna get Justin Spears
Speaker 5: will be joining us.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 4: In the second hour, one's coming up with breaking news,
Speaker 4: and then in the last segment our Fab five Friday Pick,
Speaker 4: so be sure to stick around