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Speaker 3: My name is Nick Coffee.
Speaker 2: The one and only Austin Montgomery, the travel Chief, is
Speaker 2: alongside and I am.
Speaker 3: I'm a father of two.
Speaker 2: Austin doesn't have any any kids that I know of,
Speaker 2: or that he knows I have. You have a puppy, Okay,
Speaker 2: might as well be a dad. Well maybe you can
Speaker 2: relate a little bit here. But yesterday was the first
Speaker 2: time that I can really think of in my four
Speaker 2: year old son's time here on Earth where I was
Speaker 2: very very upset at, very disappointed, but I didn't really know.
Speaker 3: Who to be mad at.
Speaker 2: And I'll explain, okay, because what I think I really
Speaker 2: have learned here is that it's if it's anybody's fault,
Speaker 2: it's mine. So but yesterday, and the reason I'm thinking
Speaker 2: to share this is because there's another story that is
Speaker 2: going viral that is not the same but kind of similar.
Speaker 2: So yesterday, I'm leaving and I am closing out, you know,
Speaker 2: all the applications on the studio computer that we use
Speaker 2: throughout the day. I've got my email still pulled up.
Speaker 2: It's the last thing that I that I still have open.
Speaker 2: And I happened to see like rapid emails coming in,
Speaker 2: like five or six came through really almost at like
Speaker 2: the exact same time, and I'm, okay, I'm thinking, that's
Speaker 2: kind of odd, that's kind of weird. I know, I
Speaker 2: don't even get a lot of emails honestly on my
Speaker 2: on my work email. So as soon as I saw
Speaker 2: who it was from, I knew what was goinging on here.
Speaker 2: Moose was he was picked up early from daycare because
Speaker 2: my stepdad he got back from he got back from
Speaker 2: his trip from Africa. Yeah, and my my wife took
Speaker 2: took Moose to surprise him and just you know, welcoming back.
Speaker 2: And so he ended up kind of hanging out at
Speaker 2: home with mom until until you know, his sister and
Speaker 2: I got home.
Speaker 3: So what does he do?
Speaker 2: He plays his PlayStation because you know, he's spoiled like
Speaker 2: crazy because he's four and he has a PlayStation and
Speaker 2: he's got, you know, a lot of games. And what
Speaker 2: I learned is when I was leaving yesterday, he has
Speaker 2: a lot more games now because my man was just
Speaker 2: buying PlayStation games out the rear end yesterday, just hitting buttons.
Speaker 2: He made his way to the store and he's just,
Speaker 2: you know, you, we'll take that. Fifty nine ninety nine. Yep,
Speaker 2: thirty nine ninety nine. Let me get that too. Nine
Speaker 2: ninety nine was one, so he you know, So I'm
Speaker 2: just I mean, I mean that we're talking like over
Speaker 2: a couple hundred dollars spend on video games, and I
Speaker 2: don't know how, like you can't return and now we
Speaker 2: haven't downloaded them because that takes I mean, you may
Speaker 2: not have enough storage to download them. But I mean,
Speaker 2: I don't know what course of action I have to
Speaker 2: like return these because we don't need them.
Speaker 3: But I don't even know if you can you do that.
Speaker 4: When you buy them online it might be tough. But
Speaker 4: if you haven't downloaded them, you may be able to
Speaker 4: get in touch, like find the uh.
Speaker 2: Like they can see that I haven't I haven't actually
Speaker 2: acquired the item. Therefore they can like they can refund
Speaker 2: the purchase and therefore, like I don't have it, and
Speaker 2: if I ever do want it, I'll have to buy
Speaker 2: it again. Like I'm I'm thinking, like in a perfect world,
Speaker 2: that would work out, but I'm new to all this.
Speaker 4: I'm thinking because I'm the king at calling people back
Speaker 4: and saying, hey, I want a refund for this and
Speaker 4: sounding are you you're the king? Uh, I know how
Speaker 4: to do that. So I mean, maybe if you explain
Speaker 4: the situation to him, because I'm pretty sure that's not
Speaker 4: the first time ever. Yeah, that that's happened, they may
Speaker 4: be able to cause when you buy it online, you
Speaker 4: buy the licensing to that game, and they may be
Speaker 4: able to take it back.
Speaker 2: And yeah, because I haven't obtained it year, like I
Speaker 2: guess if I haven't actually downloaded, I guess I haven't.
Speaker 2: Like again, I'm talking into my rear end here, like
Speaker 2: I haven't a Like, there's no there's nothing they would
Speaker 2: see that I've actually taken any step to a choir
Speaker 2: said game other than giving them my money.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: With him clicking a button.
Speaker 5: Dare, I asked what games were they?
Speaker 3: Oh, you're going to be proud of him. Okay, so
Speaker 3: he got he got WW two k.
Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, wwe Yeah, the newest one twenty five or
Speaker 4: twenty two.
Speaker 3: So he got twenty four because it was relatively cheaper.
Speaker 5: A ten dollars one.
Speaker 3: And no it wasn't ten bucks.
Speaker 5: It was ok.
Speaker 3: It was like thirty nine ninety nine or something. But
Speaker 3: it came with.
Speaker 2: Like a it came with like a deluxe thing to insure,
Speaker 2: you know, So I don't it gives him options to
Speaker 2: do a little more than I guess just the standard
Speaker 2: version of the two of the two K twenty four one.
Speaker 2: So you know, I told him because he's he's all
Speaker 2: into wrestling now, he wants to he wants to watch
Speaker 2: it on his tablet and whatnot. And then this is
Speaker 2: something that I just cannot relate to. But I know
Speaker 2: it's a big thing.
Speaker 3: I just missed this.
Speaker 2: I think my even guys who are gamer like people
Speaker 2: my age that were really into games more than I was.
Speaker 2: This wasn't a thing when we were younger watching people
Speaker 2: play video games. Oh yeah, but right after, you know,
Speaker 2: I guess, you know, I would say it's probably a
Speaker 2: little bit before your time. Like when you were in yeah,
Speaker 2: you were in like high school and stuff. You all
Speaker 2: didn't spend hours watching people play video games online. Right, no,
Speaker 2: you know, but you know it's a new world now, right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's how these people become super famous.
Speaker 4: What's what kids do? They watch people? They watch people
Speaker 4: either watch TV or play video games.
Speaker 2: So he stumbled upon a YouTube video that was just
Speaker 2: a simulation of the WWEE a sports game, and it's
Speaker 2: the Royal Rumble and he's watching it again, the video game,
Speaker 2: and he's just he thinks it's the coolest thing ever.
Speaker 2: So he tells me he wants to get the video game.
Speaker 2: Well I told him, look, you know, if you can,
Speaker 2: if you can, behave for a week. And I don't
Speaker 2: want to insinuate that he's been like a terrible kid,
Speaker 2: but like he he hangs around kids a lot older
Speaker 2: than him. So he just he doesn't, you know, he
Speaker 2: just he doesn't even realize at times he might be
Speaker 2: doing something that's considered talking back or giving attitude, and
Speaker 2: he just doesn't understand it. So I try to say, like,
Speaker 2: you know, you can't talk to your mom that way, right,
Speaker 2: you know, don't don't give us, don't give us any
Speaker 2: any attitude. Ay, We're just trying to be nice. And
Speaker 2: I told him, if you you know, if you can
Speaker 2: be on your best behavior for a week, then I'll
Speaker 2: get you the game.
Speaker 3: And you know, every day he.
Speaker 2: Was really good and would ask me like, hey, Dad,
Speaker 2: have I done good enough? And I'm like, you got
Speaker 2: to keep it up. You got to keep it up,
Speaker 2: you know, and then sure enough he went the whole week.
Speaker 2: So I bought it for him. And you know, he's
Speaker 2: he's too young, like he when I say too young, like, yes,
Speaker 2: he's probably too young as far as the content of
Speaker 2: what he's doing, what he's what he's watching. But when
Speaker 2: I say too young, what I mean is that, like
Speaker 2: it's hard for me to learn how to play that game, right,
Speaker 2: but I now have to learn how to play games
Speaker 2: so I can and then show him because he's only
Speaker 2: he's only four, right, and I'm still learning and was
Speaker 2: trying to learn on Sunday how to play the WWE game.
Speaker 2: And you know, when I'm in a match trying to
Speaker 2: figure it out, you know, he gets antsy. He wants
Speaker 2: to play right, and you know, he's four, so like
Speaker 2: any little thing that like, you know, if he loses
Speaker 2: a match or something happens, he's you know, he gets
Speaker 2: he gets frustrated. Yeah, so you know, I you know,
Speaker 2: I told him, like, look, I'm gonna have to learn
Speaker 2: some basics here just so I can teach you and
Speaker 2: then you can, you know, you can have fun with it.
Speaker 2: Like I didn't realize when I bought him a PlayStation
Speaker 2: and you know, thought, you know, and he does love it,
Speaker 2: but he wants to play with someone at all times,
Speaker 2: like he doesn't. It's rare for him to go play
Speaker 2: by himself. But anyways, long story short, yesterday, there's like
Speaker 2: all these add ons you can get with the WWE
Speaker 2: games that I didn't know of. So he bought twenty
Speaker 2: five yesterday, he got the new one now, and then
Speaker 2: he bought like some version of like Who's the Wrestler
Speaker 2: that passed away pretty tragically at a young age not
Speaker 2: that long ago. That was really Big Bray.
Speaker 3: Why. Yeah, there's like some kind of add On Bray
Speaker 3: Wyatt version. He bought that.
Speaker 2: So yeah, it was just nothing but WWE add on
Speaker 2: my guy, And uh, you're right, I am proud, and
Speaker 2: also I think he was.
Speaker 3: He was you. I guess you can like create a wrestler.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you sure can.
Speaker 3: And there's certain things that like there's certain things that
Speaker 3: you you have to buy if you want it to
Speaker 3: be on your wrestler.
Speaker 2: And he was willing to pay top dollar for his
Speaker 2: wrestler to have everything needed to be you know, whatever
Speaker 2: he wanted. So that's awesome, Like and it's one of
Speaker 2: those things that I mean, like there's no lecture, there's
Speaker 2: no like, how dare you?
Speaker 3: How could you you know better?
Speaker 2: He didn't know what he was doing, And it's my
Speaker 2: dumb ass fault for not like having it set up
Speaker 2: to where he needs like a pass code to do that, right,
Speaker 2: So like it's really my fault more than anything. And
Speaker 2: yet like we haven't even told him that he did that,
Speaker 2: because again, like what would be the point of that.
Speaker 2: I can't it's not a it's not a disciplined situation.
Speaker 2: It's really not even a learning experience. I don't think
Speaker 2: for a second he knew he was buying something, although
Speaker 2: you know, if he did know, I wouldn't be shocked
Speaker 2: if he was, like, you know what, I was good
Speaker 2: for a week, Let's get six more games dad, Like
Speaker 2: you know, it's just kind. He's going to be aggressive
Speaker 2: with it if he can. So anyways, what made me
Speaker 2: think to share that story is a is a story
Speaker 2: that is much worse than mine, because an eight year
Speaker 2: old in Kentucky somehow ordered seventy thousand dumb dumb lollipops
Speaker 2: off Amazon because he wanted to throw a carnival and
Speaker 2: be kind and give them back to his friends.
Speaker 5: There you go.
Speaker 2: So it says here that the boy ordered them while
Speaker 2: fiddling around with his mother's phone, and by the time
Speaker 2: she realized what had happened, it was too late, and
Speaker 2: an asinine amount of lollipops the Kentucky kid ordered had
Speaker 2: already been delivered. So delivered. He's eight years old. Kind
Speaker 2: of feel like at eight, wouldn't you know you're doing that?
Speaker 3: He'd Yeah, I mean, like.
Speaker 5: Feel a little bit more cognizant.
Speaker 2: Yeah, every kid's different, but I feel like at eight,
Speaker 2: you have a little like you may not be old
Speaker 2: enough to like truly know the extent of what you're doing,
Speaker 2: but like you probably know you are buying something with
Speaker 2: your mom's money.
Speaker 3: Maybe you just thought, hey, it's a few, you.
Speaker 2: Know, when I go to the snack bar at the
Speaker 2: little league baseball game, they're a quarter, So buying you know,
Speaker 2: seventy thousand of them won't be that expensive. Well, it
Speaker 2: ended up being four thousand dollars of mama's money.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, that that that was spent.
Speaker 2: So it was this is apparently this is in Lexington
Speaker 2: where this happened. So and I'm trying to see if
Speaker 2: there's more to it as far as what they ended
Speaker 2: up what they ended up doing with like all the
Speaker 2: all the lollipops. But yeah, So for me being a
Speaker 2: little upset about, you know, roughly three hundred bucks that
Speaker 2: I'm gonna try to get back and maybe I can
Speaker 2: could be worse.
Speaker 3: Could you know?
Speaker 2: My kid could have ordered four thousand dollars, Like, even
Speaker 2: if we can't get our money back, there's at least
Speaker 2: some value that he has with these games. Although it's
Speaker 2: pretty stupid to have the two K twenty four and
Speaker 2: the two K twenty five at the same time. It'd
Speaker 2: be different if, you know, you got to the twenty
Speaker 2: four because you're waiting for twenty five.
Speaker 3: But anyways, I.
Speaker 5: Don't even have twenty five yet.
Speaker 4: I was actually supposed to be I was actually supposed
Speaker 4: to be a I'm sorry of Valentine's Day gift from
Speaker 4: the Lovely Sydney in Kentucky a couple months ago.
Speaker 3: And now you're just realizing it never came right, Oh well.
Speaker 5: What happened with it?
Speaker 4: Knows Sydney, Sidney and Kentucky. So basically, what you're saying
Speaker 4: is I should really give deep thought before I have kids.
Speaker 2: What you're saying, yes and no. I mean you should
Speaker 2: do that for sure, regardless. But I'm only half joking.
Speaker 2: I'm a little worried because I think, you know, like
Speaker 2: my wife tells me at times whenever I'm getting on
Speaker 2: the kids about hey, don't talk back to your mom
Speaker 2: or you know, please, you know, just really it's just listen,
Speaker 2: like that's what we want to. Just listen to what
Speaker 2: we say, Like right, look, look across the street, look
Speaker 2: both ways before you go in the street to get
Speaker 2: your basketball that you dropped. You know, when you're on
Speaker 2: your tablet at a restaurant eating, you know, pay attention
Speaker 2: when you eat is you know? If not, you end
Speaker 2: up taking a bath essentially in the food you order,
Speaker 2: Like little things like that. But my wife has told
Speaker 2: me that I need to be a little bit more
Speaker 2: like not not stern or like mean, but like she's like,
Speaker 2: I don't even believe you that you're upset. You think
Speaker 2: they're gonna believe you and I'm like, I don't know
Speaker 2: what I mean. I'm trying trying my best here. So
Speaker 2: you should always think about big decisions like having kids.
Speaker 2: But I think this could be substantially worse and I'll
Speaker 2: probably you know, still have a hard time being mad
Speaker 2: at them.
Speaker 5: So well, I think, if anything, you're gonna.
Speaker 3: Be as softy as a dad.
Speaker 5: I know that absolutely. I'm sort of scared of that.
Speaker 3: And that's and that's you know you are.
Speaker 2: I mean, I would say parents they like if you
Speaker 2: know somebody, and I guess this could be wrong, but
Speaker 2: if you know somebody as far as their personality and
Speaker 2: you know them pretty well, I think you see an
Speaker 2: extension of their personality in a way that they parent.
Speaker 3: Therefore, you know, like I think my what you hear every.
Speaker 2: Day from me as far as just you know, my
Speaker 2: sense of humor, and I guess personality if I have
Speaker 2: any like, there's a lot of layers to that within
Speaker 2: the way I'm a dad, and that's the way you'll
Speaker 2: be when you have kids, and it'll be it'll be
Speaker 2: a lot of fun.
Speaker 4: And it seems like for the most part, you know,
Speaker 4: take it for what it's worth. But you so far
Speaker 4: since getting Moose to PlayStation. It seems like you guys
Speaker 4: have done a good job of like incentivizing him and like, yeah,
Speaker 4: we'll get games and do that rather than just like
Speaker 4: all right, kids, stop and leave me alone.
Speaker 5: You play your game.
Speaker 2: I'm glad you said that because you make me feel
Speaker 2: better now, because yes, we got him a PlayStation, and
Speaker 2: I remember, I think we talked about it on the show.
Speaker 2: I'm like, you know, I love getting him that he's
Speaker 2: gonna love it, and he's a good kid, But like,
Speaker 2: at what point do I need to be mindful of,
Speaker 2: like does he just gonna think he gets everything he wants?
Speaker 2: So then we did the Hey, if you behave and
Speaker 2: you and you know, you really start to pay attention
Speaker 2: to how you talk to me and your mother and
Speaker 2: you know, listening to instructions and just being kind to
Speaker 2: people and whatnot, you know, then you can be.
Speaker 3: Rewarded for good behavior.
Speaker 2: You should always have good behavior, but really if you go,
Speaker 2: you know, if you really make it a point to
Speaker 2: to really be on your best behavior, you can you
Speaker 2: can get a reward. So that was a big good
Speaker 2: moment and then you know this happened, But again it's
Speaker 2: my fault. It's not his He didn't do it on purpose,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 4: How's uh, how's mayo on the video games front? Is
Speaker 4: that something that she not really likes?
Speaker 2: She likes to she likes to watch him play, but
Speaker 2: maybe for like fifteen seconds, then she gets bored. She'll
Speaker 2: go sit on his bed and like get comfortable as
Speaker 2: if she's watching a movie, and then she's like, all right,
Speaker 2: see a bubby, She's she's a short attention. Get time
Speaker 2: for exactly real quick before we get to our first
Speaker 2: break here in the four o'clock hour, James Scott has
Speaker 2: committed to ole Miss, which I will admit I haven't
Speaker 2: followed his recruitment as closely as maybe some others, but
Speaker 2: to me, it seemed as if it was going to
Speaker 2: be either in c State or Memphis, and I.
Speaker 3: Think what to Memphis was making that up. Maybe maybe
Speaker 3: maybe he was ole Miss.
Speaker 2: Either way, he's at ole Miss, and it sounds like, uh,
Speaker 2: you know, that was the best situation for him as
Speaker 2: of right now. I think in C State was always
Speaker 2: a uh it always appeared to be the likely landing
Speaker 2: spot for him, and maybe I don't know what change,
Speaker 2: but if they are in fact going to land PJ Haggerty,
Speaker 2: the guard from Memphis, meaning NC State. It may have
Speaker 2: gotten to the point where they just didn't have enough
Speaker 2: money to offer James Scott what they initially had planned
Speaker 2: and maybe what he wanted. So I wish him the best,
Speaker 2: but you know, at ole Miss, I do think he
Speaker 2: will fit a Chris Beard style a little bit better,
Speaker 2: just kind of you know, like energy, effort, physicality, that
Speaker 2: kind of stuff. But I just feel like his best
Speaker 2: case scenario as a player was going to be playing
Speaker 2: for Pat Kelsey. But that's probably me just you know,
Speaker 2: being selfish. I will I will say it is wild.
Speaker 2: How now all the people that are covering this on
Speaker 2: the old Miss side, like two different websites have reported
Speaker 2: this this news of course because it's big news for them.
Speaker 2: They listed him at seven to one. I guess, you know,
Speaker 2: when you leave Louisville, James Scott, he's six'. Ten maybe
Speaker 2: he's listed at six. Ten he's probably six,' nine and for,
Speaker 2: some reason somehow he's now listed by, you know those
Speaker 2: that Are Covering ole miss as a seven foot, one
Speaker 2: player which, he's not and he's not close and there's
Speaker 2: a vast difference in being seven. TO one i mean
Speaker 2: put it, this way we kind of saw and this
Speaker 2: is not a Knock, on james because this guy does
Speaker 2: it to a lot, of people but, Our, boy kokbrenner.
Speaker 3: That's right.
Speaker 2: Cockbrenner's right it just met. He uh He Made james
Speaker 2: scott look really. Really small he's seven one or, seven
Speaker 2: two like, you, know yes so he's not seven. To
Speaker 2: ONE but i wish him the best at it'll miss,
Speaker 2: all right, quick break we'll, come back keep it. Rolling
Speaker 2: along we'll talk a little more about the decision to
Speaker 2: Move The louisville kentucky basketball game To, early november which
Speaker 2: is just kind.
Speaker 3: Of, weird no it's, really, weird actually but. We'll adjust we.
Speaker 2: Always DO and i know a lot of you probably
Speaker 2: weren't happy With the pacers doing what they did last
Speaker 2: night because, You know donovan And, the calves but we
Speaker 2: got to talk.
Speaker 3: About it it. Was crazy stick around right Here On
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Speaker 2: so a lot more to. Get into we have talked
Speaker 2: a lot About The louisville kentucky basketball game moving to
Speaker 2: much earlier in the season than we're. Used to it's
Speaker 2: going to be Played, On tuesday november, the eleventh which
Speaker 2: is the earliest the game's ever. Been played, in fact
Speaker 2: it's just the second time in the history of the
Speaker 2: series that the two have Played. In november the last
Speaker 2: time came in the nineties and it was at the End.
Speaker 2: Of november so it'll it'll, be weird. For SURE and
Speaker 2: i think it.
Speaker 3: Is not what.
Speaker 2: FANS want i think that's. Pretty clear but, AND look
Speaker 2: i totally understand AND absolutely i am not surprised the
Speaker 2: fans are upset about it on. Both sides but once
Speaker 2: we get to. It ONCE when i say get, TO it,
Speaker 2: i mean like, you know when that thing, TIPS off
Speaker 2: i think everything is just removed from your brain and
Speaker 2: you become. LOCKED in i was, gonna, say psycho but that's.
Speaker 2: JUST me a lot of you probably aren't psycho. About
Speaker 2: IT but i do love that we have a rivalry
Speaker 2: kind of. Renewed here AND what i mean is it's
Speaker 2: just fresh because TWO new, i mean when's the, last time,
Speaker 2: if ever that the two programs started with new coaches
Speaker 2: at the. Same Time clearly kentucky has got the Best
Speaker 2: of louisville, and basketball we, know That But cali, Perry
Speaker 2: leaving pope coming In like pope may have a great Run. Against,
Speaker 2: louisville look he's want to know, right Now but, louisville
Speaker 2: fans at least from, my perspective we needed a RESET
Speaker 2: because I, MEAN cal i mean not only did, he
Speaker 2: dominate but even in games where you felt like he probably,
Speaker 2: shouldn't win they. Would win like it was just, you
Speaker 2: know it'd become it'd become not fun. AT all, I
Speaker 2: mean i'm NOT saying i wish we wouldn't. Play them
Speaker 2: we could lose to them eighty. STRAIGHT times I think
Speaker 2: i would still want, to play because that's what makes sports.
Speaker 2: Great rivalries But With, PAT kelsey, i mean you feel
Speaker 2: good about where you are and where, you're headed and
Speaker 2: there's just an Element To kentucky that part of it
Speaker 2: Is because cal is gone and he just, you know
Speaker 2: he was somebody that would put together rosters that you'd
Speaker 2: be very. Fearful of, BUT now, i mean you have
Speaker 2: a different, guy There and pope may put together better
Speaker 2: teams that we should still be. Fearful of but when
Speaker 2: they would bring in a bunch OF future nba players
Speaker 2: and maybe they were off to a, great start maybe they,
Speaker 2: were struggling you, just knew regardless of what their situation
Speaker 2: was at the.
Speaker 3: Time the game.
Speaker 2: Was played and this can be said about the majority
Speaker 2: of The teams kentucky played against when cal, was there
Speaker 2: if they were at, their best and that, you know
Speaker 2: they were showing why they are viewed AS future nba
Speaker 2: lottery picks or, first rounders you could play well and
Speaker 2: still lose because they just. Were loaded what sucked is
Speaker 2: whenever they weren't loaded and you felt like you had a,
Speaker 2: good team you'd still. Sometimes lose and that just made me,
Speaker 2: want to, you know.
Speaker 5: Rip my.
Speaker 2: Hair out but, So, far, louisville again they've lost more than.
Speaker 2: They've won we, know That and popes want, to ZERO
Speaker 2: but i think it's nice to know That if louisville
Speaker 2: does in fact move forward and win two out of
Speaker 2: three or three out of four or something.
Speaker 3: Like that it's not going to be considered some big shock.
Speaker 2: At ALL and i think if, that happens it won't
Speaker 2: Be because pope's fallen flat on his Face in. KENTUCKY'S
Speaker 2: stinks i think both programs are set to be pretty
Speaker 2: good for the. FORESEEABLE future, i know we evaluate sort
Speaker 2: of how good you actually are based off of what
Speaker 2: you do in, the TOURNAMENT but, I mean i think
Speaker 2: both programs as of now the future, looks bright and
Speaker 2: we really haven't been able to say that in, a
Speaker 2: while and mostly Because of. Louisville, Side, right like let's
Speaker 2: be real basketball HERE at u l has been sort
Speaker 2: OF a i don't want to, be dramatic but like
Speaker 2: it's been a mess when you, just consider, you know
Speaker 2: certain things, that obviously, you know we're unfortunate with the
Speaker 2: Reasons that patino was let go in, that stuff and then,
Speaker 2: of course, you know you had a pandemic that took
Speaker 2: place that really completely altered everything about the, mac era
Speaker 2: and then you had a hire that was probably one
Speaker 2: of the, worst hires maybe the worst hire in the
Speaker 2: history of. College basketball so, you know just maybe that's
Speaker 2: one of the Reasons why i'm not as bummed about
Speaker 2: this schedule change, Because one i'm gonna, you know they could,
Speaker 2: play it they could play It On christmas day at
Speaker 2: two pm or, two Am and i'm going to WATCH because.
Speaker 2: I would i would DO everything i can to be
Speaker 2: able to watch IT because i love. This stuff i'm
Speaker 2: a sicko. For it so that's one aspect regardless of
Speaker 2: when they, Play it i'm going To be i'm gonna
Speaker 2: be ready.
Speaker 3: To go, but also, YOU know.
Speaker 2: I just feel better about the RIVALRY because i feel
Speaker 2: better about who's Running the louisville side. Of things and,
Speaker 2: you Know maybe, i'm WRONG but i just Don't think
Speaker 2: pope's gonna put teams together that you just, feel, like
Speaker 2: oh what are we going? To do we can't, beat them,
Speaker 2: all right so stick them. With BASKETBALL the acc did
Speaker 2: in fact do what was reported, last week and that
Speaker 2: is make a change to the conference, basketball schedule and
Speaker 2: IN typical, ACC fashion i think they they messed. This
Speaker 2: up so you have seventeen teams in, the conference and
Speaker 2: you previously had, twenty games a twenty game schedule where
Speaker 2: you'd play everybody at, least once and you'd play a
Speaker 2: handful of. Teams, twice well they've gotten rid of, two
Speaker 2: games so you're going to play an eighteen. Game SCHEDULE
Speaker 2: and i think was what was, just assumed because this
Speaker 2: IS how i think most would do it is that
Speaker 2: you would play everybody once and then you'd play one.
Speaker 2: Team twice and they decided not to. Do that so
Speaker 2: they're HAVING a, I mean i don't know what since.
Speaker 2: This makes but now you're going to play fourteen teams,
Speaker 2: one time you will play two, teams twice and then
Speaker 2: you'll have an, opponent zero which means you will not.
Speaker 2: Play them you will not play every team in your
Speaker 2: league because there's one team, that ever each each team
Speaker 2: will have an opponent in the league that will not
Speaker 2: be an opponent for, a season, which AGAIN like I
Speaker 2: don't i don't. Get It so louisville WILL play. Smu
Speaker 2: twice that was what was reported last week by a
Speaker 2: couple of different folks that when it comes to who
Speaker 2: you're going to be paired with to get a second,
Speaker 2: game against it IT. Is smu now who you end
Speaker 2: up getting for your, second series meaning you play, them
Speaker 2: twice that's to. BE determined i don't know when they're
Speaker 2: going to. ANNOUNCE that i haven't looked at the. Full
Speaker 2: release maybe they've let maybe they've announced when they're.
Speaker 3: Gonna put that. Out THERE but i hope it's a.
Speaker 3: Good TEAM like, i know, you know if You, get.
Speaker 2: Duke people, will, think, well GEEZ the acc is really,
Speaker 2: Killing US and i, get it like that wouldn't be
Speaker 2: ideal because it's going to, be tough but, you need
Speaker 2: you need to play the teams THAT you i shouldn't
Speaker 2: say no are going to be good because you really.
Speaker 2: Never KNOW, BUT smu, i mean when's the last time
Speaker 2: they made? A tournament been, a, while right when's the
Speaker 2: last time they? Were good so you have. THEM twice
Speaker 2: i don't really see a whole lot of value in.
Speaker 2: Those Wins maybe, i'm wrong but. WE'LL see i would
Speaker 2: hope that you get one of the better teams, that is,
Speaker 2: you Know and I'm. TALKING duke i was Gonna, say
Speaker 2: carolina but like, YOU know i guess now we know
Speaker 2: that you Can beat carolina and it doesn't really do
Speaker 2: much because they've had years Where With hubert davis they're
Speaker 2: just not. That good so that's the decision and what,
Speaker 2: this Does And matt norlander alluded to. This earlier the
Speaker 2: Reason behind the change here is because they clearly realize
Speaker 2: that they need THEY need acc teams to have a
Speaker 2: better resume when they get To, selection sunday and each
Speaker 2: team playing twenty games eliminates opportunities to play really good
Speaker 2: teams because here LATELY the acc has not had many really.
Speaker 2: GOOD teams, I mean I think i'll always go Back
Speaker 2: to january of. Last year, THIS year i should say.
Speaker 2: Last season it. Was fun it was. Really fun IT was,
Speaker 2: i mean it was really when, WE started, i think
Speaker 2: come back to life as a, fan base because they
Speaker 2: went on a really big, winning streak got some wins
Speaker 2: along the way that at the time we felt pretty.
Speaker 2: Good about didn't necessarily end up playing out, that way
Speaker 2: but they were just reeling off when, after when but
Speaker 2: they weren't getting any value because the league just didn't
Speaker 2: have teams that if you, beat them would really give you.
Speaker 2: Any value and that's just it's really unheard of FOR the,
Speaker 2: acc historically but lately that's been. The TREND so i
Speaker 2: do APPLAUD the acc for making, this change but it
Speaker 2: also kind of confirms what we already know that the
Speaker 2: league is in basketball taking some gigantic, steps back which. Is,
Speaker 2: UNFORTUNATE now i think the league getting back to where
Speaker 2: it needs to be is not a task that's just
Speaker 2: too tall to. Take down, it's just, you know you
Speaker 2: got to wonder how long it's going. TO take, i
Speaker 2: mean when you look at the early top twenty five
Speaker 2: RANKINGS that espn put out yesterday that we, Talked about
Speaker 2: kentucky was at, number eleven louis was at, Number Seven
Speaker 2: so duke's, At six, Louisville Seven and i'm looking AT
Speaker 2: the acc, Teams here but then you got to go
Speaker 2: all the way down to, twenty five And, that's carolina
Speaker 2: and then the next in line doesn't feature ANY as.
Speaker 2: Acc TEAM and i think it's Generous putting carolina at
Speaker 2: twenty five given the Fact that i'm looking at, THE
Speaker 2: roster i don't think they got better from a, year
Speaker 2: ago which, YOU know i think is saying something given
Speaker 2: the fact that they didn't make that they shouldn't have
Speaker 2: made the tournament. Last YEAR so i think it makes
Speaker 2: total sense to not have Teams, like virginia teams LIKE
Speaker 2: in c state teams Like even miami in the top.
Speaker 2: Twenty five but wouldn't be shocked If If will wade starts.
Speaker 2: Off strong same Thing For ryan Odam, at virginia AND
Speaker 2: then i don't know what to expect at All With
Speaker 2: jay Lucas, at miami but he's certainly adding, some Talent
Speaker 2: and i'd love to be wrong, about him because the
Speaker 2: BETTER the, acc is the better it is for, you.
Speaker 2: Know EVERYBODY so i would Hope that louisville will use
Speaker 2: these two now available dates to go schedule some non
Speaker 2: conference opponents that'll, give you, you know a chance to
Speaker 2: get some wins that will help you On. Selection sunday
Speaker 2: you gotta keep in mind they are we know They've,
Speaker 2: got kentucky we know they're going to be IN THE Acc,
Speaker 2: sec challenge we don't know the opponent. Just yet and
Speaker 2: they also go back. To tennis They play. Tennessee again
Speaker 2: they're going to Go to knoxville, To play so that'll
Speaker 2: be another opportunity to get a non conference when that
Speaker 2: will certainly have some value if you can you can
Speaker 2: get a Winning a knoxville will, be difficult but, you
Speaker 2: know it's also one of those games that if you
Speaker 2: play competitively and, you, lose yeah that's not it's not what,
Speaker 2: you want but it didn't, hurt, you right at least
Speaker 2: it Shouldn't if tennessee's, you know as good as they,
Speaker 2: typically ARE and i just realized that'll Be The native.
Speaker 2: Mint game, he's uh still weird to me that he
Speaker 2: ended Up, at tennessee, But yeah so THAT'S the acc.
Speaker 2: Basketball announcement they've gotten rid of the twenty. Game schedule
Speaker 2: they're moving. To eighteen you will have one game against,
Speaker 2: fourteen teams and then you WILL play, smu twice and
Speaker 2: then you'll play another team twice that we don't know
Speaker 2: who that, is yet and.
Speaker 3: There's one team randomly that you.
Speaker 2: Won't play and here's, What's crazy like there's a chance
Speaker 2: that like you Don't get duke and some would say you,
Speaker 2: got lucky you got, a gift or like maybe that's
Speaker 2: like you just lost out on an opportunity that like
Speaker 2: you need to have because your league just doesn't. Give
Speaker 2: YOU and i know it Sound like i'm being DRAMATIC
Speaker 2: and i don't, mean to but, let's like let's. Be Honest,
Speaker 2: LIKE louisville i don't agree with him being an, eight
Speaker 2: seed but there was always that scenario the committee could
Speaker 2: Look at louisville, and, say yeah who'd? You beat and,
Speaker 2: you know it's a it's a legitimate thing to. Bring up,
Speaker 2: all right if ibout two about seven one seventy nine
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Speaker 1: To mike.
Speaker 6: Everything's, going good. LITTLE brother i wanted to. Call it
Speaker 6: congratulate you on the successful. Basketball Season coach kelsey's. Doing great.
Speaker 3: THANK you i, didn't PLAY but i. Appreciate, that, Well
Speaker 3: yeah i'm.
Speaker 6: Here to support.
Speaker 1: Little brother That's what i'm.
Speaker 6: Calling about, AND see i called in to, be nice
Speaker 6: and you know.
Speaker 2: The problem you called me a.
Speaker 3: Little brother that's.
Speaker 6: Not, nice yeah, well whatever that's the Problem with. Louisville
Speaker 6: fans whenever you open, your mouth words. Come, out now
Speaker 6: if you just sit there and let me do my,
Speaker 6: spill here bring it that.
Speaker 3: A, radio?
Speaker 2: UP bro i, mean THIS didn't i mean? This this first,
Speaker 2: of all this is my, radio show. Not Yours so
Speaker 2: I'm gonna i'm gonna go ahead and end. This conversation that.
Speaker 2: One's over glad you. CALLED in, i mean.
Speaker 3: At least at least. Be entertaining at least, YOU know.
Speaker 5: I didn't know that was. YOUR brother, i mean.
Speaker 2: Like like little brother is still gonna be mentioned from
Speaker 2: time to time because you know it, always will not
Speaker 2: just with, this rivalry but you. Know others, BUT like,
Speaker 2: i mean come come a little stronger and. Trust me
Speaker 2: I've i've i've let people do their thing on the.
Speaker 2: Air here but that wouldn't that wasn't Your best go
Speaker 2: back to the go back to the, drawing board think
Speaker 2: of some, better content, better material and and and give it, another.
Speaker 3: Go because you know you're better. Than. That mike that's, his, Name, Right.
Speaker 3: Mike mike mike knows he's better, than that?
Speaker 5: Does?
Speaker 3: HE well, I mean I just, I mean.
Speaker 2: I DON'T mean i didn't have any expectation for that
Speaker 2: CALL because i didn't know who.
Speaker 3: It was, but either to, be fair that's and. THAT'S fine,
Speaker 3: i mean.
Speaker 2: That's fine you did your party said he wanted to
Speaker 2: talk about THE uk U of, l game and. That's
Speaker 2: fine but, you, know like has it ever worked for
Speaker 2: somebody to call anybody's radio show, and say if you just,
Speaker 2: be quiet not open your mouth and let me do,
Speaker 2: My thing like how, about no how about you do
Speaker 2: your own thing on your?
Speaker 3: Radio?
Speaker 2: Show mike WHERE can i check, you, out brother he
Speaker 2: just pulled the nick Coffee on, NICK coffee, i mean
Speaker 2: just let me you.
Speaker 5: Sit down, oh.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah not a lot of people know what you're referring,
Speaker 2: To there, BUT yeah i let me do. My thing
Speaker 2: that almost went over, my HEAD but i got there before.
Speaker 2: It did but in all, in all, in all, you
Speaker 2: know in, all honesty, you know, give it give it
Speaker 2: a better shot, Next. Time MIKE and i, don't, mean like,
Speaker 2: you know call in and, be NICE but i mean
Speaker 2: you tried to deliver. And execute you know Something about
Speaker 2: louisville fans open their mouth that words.
Speaker 3: Come out that's. The issue like that's just, not good
Speaker 3: you KNOW what.
Speaker 2: I mean like that's not funny in, any way that's,
Speaker 2: not clever that's, not like, you know, be better. YOU
Speaker 2: know i, Mean again I'm not i'm not trying to
Speaker 2: gash you up to, you know start throwing the stripper
Speaker 2: jokes and and all that kind. Of STUFF but i
Speaker 2: mean there was really no substance. To that we can
Speaker 2: have a, conversation anyway. Quick break we'll come back on
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Speaker 2: we'll be out of here. At six AND then I
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Speaker 5: Day and they've gotta again get this. Basketball there there's
Speaker 5: gonna be at one.
Speaker 3: Point game you know you're gonna get fouled if you're
Speaker 3: your guys have got to do a much better job of.
Speaker 1: Getting Open missus halliburton, the rebound.
Speaker 3: No pickens they do have a. Time out carlisle's gonna
Speaker 3: let them. Play Skifts.
Speaker 1: Tyrase hallo burton trying To take.
Speaker 3: CLEVELAND'S heart.
Speaker 2: I Think tyrese Haliburton took, cleveland's heart, their soul. Their
Speaker 2: existence that is about as bad of a way to
Speaker 2: lose a game as you will. Ever SEE AND i
Speaker 2: i didn't HAVE any i didn't have, any doubt although,
Speaker 2: you know Had. Had cleveland i'm kind of In a
Speaker 2: i'm in a win win situation a little bit with
Speaker 2: this Because if donovan wins and he moves on and
Speaker 2: he can get To The Eastern, conference Finals Then i'll
Speaker 2: i'll feel, You know i'll feel pretty uh pretty good
Speaker 2: about IT because I want donovan to. Do Well but
Speaker 2: i'm Not a. Cavs fan I'm a. Pacers fan so somebody,
Speaker 2: ASKED me I think i might Have, been, monday, like
Speaker 2: hey what are you going to do in? This, series well,
Speaker 2: you know EVEN if i wanted to cheer For the
Speaker 2: caves Because, OF donovan i DON'T think i Could because
Speaker 2: i've Loved the pacers for a long long Time and
Speaker 2: i'm PRETTY sure i. Always will but it was tough
Speaker 2: last night to see that. For HIM but I mean
Speaker 2: i did enjoy seeing my team get the Dub. AND
Speaker 2: macdonovan i mean it just led to people realizing that guy's,
Speaker 2: really special which we, already knew and they had a bunch,
Speaker 2: of INJURIES but, i mean he did. His part there's
Speaker 2: no way. Around it he did his part as far as,
Speaker 2: you know doing what. WAS neat, i mean he couldn't
Speaker 2: have done. Much more he had nearly fifty points in
Speaker 2: that game. Last night but let me give you some
Speaker 2: numbers really quickly here that just really put in perspective what.
Speaker 2: This was so forty eight seconds left on, the Clock
Speaker 2: the cavs are are down seven and, they won which,
Speaker 2: is crazy But.
Speaker 3: The pacers.
Speaker 2: Pulled off this is now the second time they've had
Speaker 2: to comeback like this in the playoffs, this year because
Speaker 2: they did the same Thing against milwaukee not that. Long
Speaker 2: ago so check. This out per, ESPN's research nba teams
Speaker 2: are three, and one, one thousand six hundred and forty
Speaker 2: when trailing by at least seven points in the final
Speaker 2: minute of the fourth quarter or overtime since the nineteen
Speaker 2: ninety seven ninety. Eight, season wow that works out to
Speaker 2: a winning percentage of zero.
Speaker 5: Point eighteen but.
Speaker 3: There's More.
Speaker 2: The pacers have have been two of those, three wins
Speaker 2: Not the, pacers franchise This specific, pacers team, because again
Speaker 2: when they Won in game five Against the bucks one
Speaker 2: nineteen to, one eighteen it was a very very similar
Speaker 2: Situation and halliburton did did the. Same THING so i
Speaker 2: mean he had to miss his own, free throw get his,
Speaker 2: own rebound and do. ALL that, i mean this is
Speaker 2: again from this is. From optastats so it's dismissing a,
Speaker 2: free throw then getting your, own rebound and making a
Speaker 2: game winning three pointer in a span of. Fifteen seconds
Speaker 2: sound like a difficult thing. To, do well That's what,
Speaker 2: haliburton did unlike every other player of the last. Twenty
Speaker 2: years SO per. Opta stats he's the only player IN
Speaker 2: the nba player in twenty years to, do that exacting
Speaker 2: regular season. Or playoffs and then check. THIS out I
Speaker 2: mean donovan HAD four i mean think. About this they
Speaker 2: Were Without, Evan Mobley, Darius Garland, DeAndre Hunter the cavs
Speaker 2: Were and donovan dropped forty, eight points was fifteen, of
Speaker 2: thirty had, nine dimes, five rebounds four steals in thirty
Speaker 2: six minutes and it.
Speaker 3: Wasn't enough like that's why it's so crazy to.
Speaker 2: Think If you're indie that you know you were able
Speaker 2: to to you're able to win in, that scenario not
Speaker 2: only being down seven with less than, a minute but
Speaker 2: also getting that kind of performance from one of the
Speaker 2: best players IN the nba and you still found a
Speaker 2: way to get out of there with. The win and If,
Speaker 2: you're cleveland losing the way you did is, you know
Speaker 2: demoralizing in a, major way but also knowing that you
Speaker 2: didn't have those guys And yet donovan gave you everything
Speaker 2: and you had it in your hand and, Then.
Speaker 3: Lost like it's.
Speaker 2: It's crazy so if you're wondering if this year's playoffs
Speaker 2: have kind of felt crazy with some of these comeback you're,
Speaker 2: you're right because we're what barely into the second, round
Speaker 2: here and there's already been four to twenty point comeback wins,
Speaker 2: this postseason which is more than ANY in nba. Postseason history,
Speaker 2: SO yeah i know a lot of folks. Around here
Speaker 2: they just pull For the ravens because Of. Lamar are
Speaker 2: they pull For the cavs Because, Of DONOVAN and i totally.
Speaker 2: Get it you don't have a team that gives you
Speaker 2: a reason to root for, a team and it's fun
Speaker 2: to have a team to, pull for especially when we
Speaker 2: don't HAVE an nba team OR an nfl. Team HERE but,
Speaker 2: I was, I mean i was kind of in disbelief and,
Speaker 2: What's CRAZY like i would never put his name in
Speaker 2: the same conversation as far as like the, legendary Status
Speaker 2: but halliburton in that moment, last night.
Speaker 3: It was he gave me chills because It Was reggie miller,
Speaker 3: Like that That's What reggie.
Speaker 2: Miller does like that Was like reggie Against, The Knicks,
Speaker 2: spike lee the, choking gesture non points eight seconds like
Speaker 2: that was that was kind of, Like that so hard
Speaker 2: To imagine cleveland winning. This thing now down two, to
Speaker 2: oho Going to indy for, two games especially that loss
Speaker 2: was more than just a loss in. The series that
Speaker 2: felt like that that might have got, at.
Speaker 3: Them but you.
Speaker 2: NEVER know, I mean cleveland's been good, all year but
Speaker 2: they also, to me, and again injuries were a factor
Speaker 2: and that should not be, you know that shouldn't. Be
Speaker 2: ignored but, To me Cleveland and indy for, that matter
Speaker 2: like We'll see, indy though this. Team's, fearless Man this,
Speaker 2: PACERS team i think there's something. SPECIAL here, i KNOW
Speaker 2: but i know they don't have like the Talent that.
Speaker 2: Boston has and that's WHEN, the nba you got seven.
Speaker 2: Game series the scenario where a team that's really good
Speaker 2: loses in a best of seven is. Just UNLIKELY so
Speaker 2: i think Both the cavs And the pacers have done
Speaker 2: a phenomenal job of doing the best they can with,
Speaker 2: Roster MOVES like i think they've done a phenomenal job,
Speaker 2: with everything but their ceiling is just not nearly as
Speaker 2: high as a team Like. The, celtics therefore it's, just
Speaker 2: like no matter who Gets, THE celtics i just think
Speaker 2: beating them in a seven game series is going to,
Speaker 2: be really really tough. To do and THAT'S what i
Speaker 2: was gonna Say about, cleveland again injuries were a, big
Speaker 2: factor but they're, better at, you know playing different teams
Speaker 2: throughout an eighty two game schedule here. And there when
Speaker 2: you get into a some teams are just like you
Speaker 2: could you could find a certain matchup to where you
Speaker 2: would know that a team is twenty two games better
Speaker 2: as far. As record but when they play each other
Speaker 2: seven times and it becomes, like you're, you know seven
Speaker 2: straight games and you get to the best, of, seven
Speaker 2: like it truly changes the ELEMENT of, i mean winning
Speaker 2: a one off and winning best of seven is a completely.
Speaker 2: Different Challenge and i'm not obviously just talking about doing it.
Speaker 2: Four times it's adjusting, and understand, you know getting a
Speaker 2: feel for. The opponent, all right quick break five o'clock,
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