Speaker 1: The things that not everyone knows about you, you know,
Speaker 1: when it's happened to those you know, those secret vaults
Speaker 1: that you have, Miss Jaska Rich and let private talk
Speaker 1: know a little.
Speaker 2: Bit more about you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love that And we always talk about like,
Speaker 3: you know, the basic things everyone asks me.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm excited.
Speaker 1: But those are important too, because that's why you are
Speaker 1: who you are. And so let's see what all these
Speaker 1: things are going on. So how are you today? Thank
Speaker 1: you for coming, thank you for.
Speaker 2: Making a bazy day. Oh my power went out, but
Speaker 2: I'm here, I'm here.
Speaker 1: Well, the gods have opened you. I'm glad that you've
Speaker 1: made it. I'm glad that you're safe. I'm glad that
Speaker 1: you're here and going to talk with us. So how
Speaker 1: is it for you know, having such you know, a
Speaker 1: big collection that you do, and how is like how
Speaker 1: does it feel having some of the top stars like
Speaker 1: wear your shoes and like ask and reach out to
Speaker 1: you and do those things, Like how does that make
Speaker 1: you feel?
Speaker 2: It feels pretty like surreal?
Speaker 3: Actually, it's like you know how sometimes you like lay
Speaker 3: there as a kid and like you nine men as
Speaker 3: a kid, but like just in life, you're like, oh,
Speaker 3: I want to do this, and I want to do this.
Speaker 2: I mean it actually happens. You're like, wait a minute,
Speaker 2: did I just do that? It's like almost aha type
Speaker 2: of moment. Yeah, like wow.
Speaker 3: I mean like whatever you set your life in your mind,
Speaker 3: you can get it done. And I just want to
Speaker 3: be able to inspire anyone out there who has streams,
Speaker 3: who you know, gets discouraged, who wants to maybe not
Speaker 3: start a business or like they feel like they don't enough,
Speaker 3: they don't have enough funds.
Speaker 2: To do so just do it.
Speaker 1: Just start sometimes, just like don't think about it, just
Speaker 1: go out and just do it. Whatever it is, break
Speaker 1: by brick, however it happens.
Speaker 2: Literally sure when I exactly what I recommend, just starting.
Speaker 1: So you have you recently just opened a store at
Speaker 1: the Bively Center. How how does that feel?
Speaker 2: Like? How is that big of accomplishment?
Speaker 1: Like actually not just website because everything now is just
Speaker 1: like the internet based and having an actual brick and
Speaker 1: mortar store like view about it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I actually was on Melros first. I
Speaker 3: started out with a small office down here, like maybe
Speaker 3: like a block away, and it was like a room
Speaker 3: like this big, and I thought that was perfect for me,
Speaker 3: and this is like in twenty eighteen and then that
Speaker 3: we started outgrowing that room. I looked for a space
Speaker 3: on Melros and there was a space I was open,
Speaker 3: and I was like, oh my god, I love this place, Like,
Speaker 3: can I please get the least and they told me
Speaker 3: the rent and I was like, oh my god, it's
Speaker 3: so expensive. That's when I first saw it, Like I
Speaker 3: was like when I passed my hour, Oh what's that?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, And I was so scared to take that step.
Speaker 3: And my mom said, Jessica, you just have to do
Speaker 3: it and just not think about it because you might
Speaker 3: go buy that store later on and see another version
Speaker 3: there and where she could have had it.
Speaker 2: So I did it.
Speaker 1: I took a step like that's empowering, you know, being
Speaker 1: pushed like that with how you know if I'm a
Speaker 1: strong woman.
Speaker 2: You know, like that selfs too. It is because sometimes
Speaker 2: it's like you don't have.
Speaker 1: That teetering like oh, let me do it, you'll just
Speaker 1: still think about it and right, it hasn't done it right,
Speaker 1: And if that didn't happen, then.
Speaker 3: I would not hear Yeah, because I did the store
Speaker 3: and I had that was open for like a two
Speaker 3: years and then probably tent I reached out to me
Speaker 3: and that they had some open vacancies, and I went
Speaker 3: told with the vacancies they spoke about, and I gave
Speaker 3: you this incredible store next to Versace and Burbery, And
Speaker 3: I'm like, why what that's a crazy So it's such
Speaker 3: a great blessing.
Speaker 1: So is that something that you always aspired to do
Speaker 1: but to be in the Beverly Center or is that
Speaker 1: something that came later on with everything?
Speaker 3: Is?
Speaker 1: Like, how does that feel because of being you know,
Speaker 1: buy those big chain store not even a chain, like
Speaker 1: those big iconic stores, Like that's a big you know,
Speaker 1: achievement that we're hearing any other one too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you, thank you. Honestly, that was never my
Speaker 2: goal to be proo stores.
Speaker 3: I mean I definitely wanted my notoriety later in life
Speaker 3: about like my business and how far have come. But
Speaker 3: like to put between those two, I was like, WHOA,
Speaker 3: Like I really worked hard for it, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean?
Speaker 2: Like did that just leads to anyone? But that space,
Speaker 2: for sure, you have to have lots of not just cloud.
Speaker 1: You know, you have to have to back up all
Speaker 1: those things you do, all those many shoes, all those collections,
Speaker 1: all those things, all the people.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, but I definitely wanted to try them all.
Speaker 3: Excuse me, try them all because I heard that the
Speaker 3: traffic was a lot better than al roads. So that's
Speaker 3: definitely that we're experiencing. It's great traffic, it's great awareness.
Speaker 3: It's great like your girls that come in there are
Speaker 3: going into like bending and walking into my st because
Speaker 3: there's just where I'm ats.
Speaker 1: Which is but traffic, you know, it's walking advertisement kind
Speaker 1: of yeah in a sense. And now that everything's picking
Speaker 1: up because of the pandemic, you know, it's I'm sure
Speaker 1: that's a lot more business coming through, you know, the
Speaker 1: doors and stuff like that as well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're finally getting back to normal shopping slowly. We're
Speaker 3: like twenty five grass.
Speaker 1: That's a big step, you know, especially with all you know,
Speaker 1: having to wait those things that happened during the pandemic
Speaker 1: that you actually got your store.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I shut down last March and then we were
Speaker 3: just operating like office work behind the scenes there, and
Speaker 3: then I moved to I wasent in November, so it
Speaker 3: was still like it was barely open then the mall,
Speaker 3: so it was like six people at a time.
Speaker 1: In the store, so, who is the one celebrity that
Speaker 1: you have dressed and that's just been like the biggest
Speaker 1: like kind of like fangirl moment for yourself, not for everybody.
Speaker 2: Else, but like for you.
Speaker 1: Or it's like, oh, yes, like maybe even designed it
Speaker 1: for that person, maybe had it in mind or something
Speaker 1: that kind of like came into fruition.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3: People always ask me this question, and I definitely can't
Speaker 3: sing off any single celeb. I would say every single
Speaker 3: one has definitely made an impact him in an awing moment.
Speaker 3: Did I ever design anything specifically for someone?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I think I did design shoes for Kylie not you know,
Speaker 3: in my in my mind, I'm like, okay, I see
Speaker 3: her wearing always.
Speaker 2: It just fit with what was going on in the closet.
Speaker 3: At that time, and I'm like to hope if I
Speaker 3: drop these off to wear, I'm sure enough she did.
Speaker 3: So I think just watching the stars and watching what
Speaker 3: they're wearing with trends are doing with their styles, are doing.
Speaker 2: Just helping out. Yeah to know.
Speaker 1: You know, so I have a question and I have
Speaker 1: to know the answer. How many shoes do you personally
Speaker 1: have in your closet?
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I have less shoes in my classes
Speaker 2: than I do my website.
Speaker 1: Really, so you're like you just keep you give them
Speaker 1: a way to everyone. You're not keeping anything for yourself.
Speaker 3: You know what's crazy is, you know my customers come first,
Speaker 3: but more so I wear them a couple of times.
Speaker 3: I just awsome because I design them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can just imagine all these shoes and just
Speaker 1: like having because me, I'm like, I'm a Gemini, and
Speaker 1: I like, if I like something, I get like three
Speaker 1: of them because I'm like, I'm gonna wear them a
Speaker 1: lot and I want to have them, and because I
Speaker 1: have access to them, like your stuff, I'd be like, okay,
Speaker 1: I need three of these threes three And then I
Speaker 1: guess because you do have access, it's a little easier too.
Speaker 1: But I just like, I still want to horde some
Speaker 1: for myself.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I like have them all like lined up,
Speaker 3: but I don't have all my styles, to be honest,
Speaker 3: and I'm really that's.
Speaker 1: A shame you need to think of, you know, self care,
Speaker 1: you know, like have those in a vault somewhere for
Speaker 1: you and just no, I keep my.
Speaker 2: Own secret SATs, my own shoes.
Speaker 3: We know what it's funny is that I used to
Speaker 3: wear my own shoes so much to the fact that
Speaker 3: you know, I get it, I'm a designer, but I
Speaker 3: do enjoy other brands.
Speaker 2: Like tonight, I'm not wearing my shoes.
Speaker 1: I just get to switch it up. But I think that,
Speaker 1: but it's like, also, you know, it's a walking average,
Speaker 1: and I get that, but it's also you know, you
Speaker 1: have those like good pieces that you do that you
Speaker 1: just have to, like, you know, always have them on display.
Speaker 2: That's true.
Speaker 3: That's true then, And it's definitely like I've learned to
Speaker 3: fill trap things I don't wear. So it's a lot
Speaker 3: of other shoes that I don't wear as much as
Speaker 3: I've been given away and like closet sailings I'm.
Speaker 2: HORD or some horder like shoes from like five years ago.
Speaker 1: I always kind of like a guilty victim of that
Speaker 1: too sometimes where it's like I've had to have the
Speaker 1: push be like do you really when's the last time
Speaker 1: you wore this? And I'm actually at the stage right
Speaker 1: now in my closet because you know, we were the
Speaker 1: pandemic for so long and then things were kind of
Speaker 1: opening up and whatever, and I'm like I halfway shopped
Speaker 1: and then I stop shopping and now I'm like.
Speaker 2: Where do I a sell my clothes? Help me?
Speaker 1: Like, I feel like I have I built a whole close,
Speaker 1: like I took a whole room in my apartment and
Speaker 1: made into a closet.
Speaker 2: It looks like a Nordstrums. And I still feel like
Speaker 2: I have no clothes right close.
Speaker 1: I'm like, how do I walk in here? And I'm
Speaker 1: like nothing to luxury problem. So that's not really a problem.
Speaker 1: It's a good problem to have. But yeah, I think
Speaker 1: it's just time for me to shop. I think it's
Speaker 1: time to crazy because I did the same thing. And
Speaker 1: you know what it is, girl, It's like you worse
Speaker 1: than on the Instagram and you can't wear it again.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what it is.
Speaker 1: It's because you're photographing look with me, like with the
Speaker 1: podcast every episode sometimes you know I can't really I
Speaker 1: can wear we rewear it, but it's like I can't
Speaker 1: really rewear it right, just like so you gotta make
Speaker 1: it really a moment, but you gotta gonna sell that
Speaker 1: moment and you gotta make it make them make it
Speaker 1: worth Yeah, I have the problem too. That's maybe that's
Speaker 1: where our closets are.
Speaker 2: Like the same same. I'm like looking like twins. Nothing.
Speaker 2: I literally it's a whole bedroom. It's a shame. Sometimes
Speaker 2: I'm like why, I'm yes, shame, shame you watch it.
Speaker 2: I don't feel shame, but I deserved it all the
Speaker 2: things I did. That's right, private talk, exactly exactly.
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Speaker 2: I like it.
Speaker 1: So we talked about nord Strums you just signed a
Speaker 1: deal with them and ds W how is how did
Speaker 1: that come into fruition?
Speaker 2: Talks about that?
Speaker 1: Like did you just I mean that these are all
Speaker 1: big accomplishments that you have, Like these are obviously something
Speaker 1: that you've been working for a long time and up
Speaker 1: to these things. But it's amazing that it's you know,
Speaker 1: it's a time for you to celebrate you.
Speaker 3: No, honestly, DSF, you emailed us back in October and
Speaker 3: contact like she's contact is on the website.
Speaker 2: Hey do you love you? We love to put you
Speaker 2: on our website. I'm like, what, Oh my god, this
Speaker 2: is insane. So we email the buyer.
Speaker 1: That's even better, Like you know, not even yeah, because
Speaker 1: it's like your product speaks for itself, right.
Speaker 2: Oh my god. I was like wow.
Speaker 3: So we got on the phone with her and she's like, yeah,
Speaker 3: we want to put you in there for Black History
Speaker 3: Month for February. We found you on footwear news dot com,
Speaker 3: which is I'm on there a lot, and you know,
Speaker 3: we saw the you're.
Speaker 2: Africanmerican designer and we didn't even know. We love to
Speaker 2: get yourself, so that's kind of how that happened.
Speaker 3: We're online with their site and then a students open
Speaker 3: the Beverly Center nor Trum's called our phone.
Speaker 2: My employee was like, Jessica, that was North Troms. I
Speaker 2: was like, get out of here, are you serious?
Speaker 3: And she's like yeah. I'm like no, that's a buyer.
Speaker 3: She asked to be wholesale.
Speaker 2: I'm like, do we wholesale? Of course, we whosale.
Speaker 3: So I called her back and I was freaking out
Speaker 3: because like, she didn't she didn't aswer the phone like
Speaker 3: the first two days, and.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh my god, did I lose her
Speaker 2: to have the right number? Did she write it down wrong?
Speaker 2: I thought I should have red the phone. Yeah, oh god.
Speaker 2: And I literally was like freaking out.
Speaker 3: And then finally she called me back to the Sorry
Speaker 3: we were in market, we were busy, Let's talk next week.
Speaker 3: And then it went really fast, like when I'm talking
Speaker 3: like it went from looking at our line sheets to
Speaker 3: us not telling We didn't really tell them our price
Speaker 3: points at first of the wholesale, but we said let's
Speaker 3: just see what they want first and then.
Speaker 2: Go from there.
Speaker 3: And when they ordered everything, I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 3: this is gonna be a huge order. And it was
Speaker 3: a massive order. It was so much stress for us
Speaker 3: because we literally like like made our factory work over
Speaker 3: time to get on time to them, and it got
Speaker 3: to the States on time, but then FedEx screwed up
Speaker 3: the entire area of it, like by three So three
Speaker 3: weeks late to Northrums is like the worst thing you
Speaker 3: could do. Was the first time, you know person. But
Speaker 3: they were very leaning and very understanding and they're it's
Speaker 3: all in store now, just like.
Speaker 1: COVID, like everything COVID nineteen, Like that's the excuse for
Speaker 1: everybody deliverate it's it's COVID.
Speaker 2: COVID.
Speaker 1: No, this is really this is the truth, but disclaimer
Speaker 1: this if we're going to have a warning like, but yeah,
Speaker 1: they finally got everything like last week.
Speaker 2: That's awesome. That's really cool.
Speaker 1: That's a really big accomplishment to have part of you
Speaker 1: for sure, that's really cool.
Speaker 3: And I and I know that the buyers, I'm sorrying
Speaker 3: that the buyer, but the stores are telling me that
Speaker 3: the reactions are really good, that they needed, like they
Speaker 3: all they always needed, like a midpoint of like above
Speaker 3: Steve Madden, but then under like a mena movie or
Speaker 3: something like that, because girls don't always want to spend
Speaker 3: some of her dolls on a shoe.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they want to be a little bit more high.
Speaker 1: In then and still good quality because it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: that's a big you know thing. I'm a shoe girl
Speaker 1: on myself. So it's like I like to have I
Speaker 1: don't like to spend it depending on what.
Speaker 2: It is, right, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like it's all about for me, it's like shoes or accessories.
Speaker 1: That's why I love them so much. Successor as a
Speaker 1: report of the like the best part of an outfit.
Speaker 1: You can do it from jewelry to shoes. But so
Speaker 1: it's like depends on what it is. But for me,
Speaker 1: I also like the middle ground because it's like I
Speaker 1: want to spend money, but I also want to wear it.
Speaker 1: A couple of times I don't want it to like
Speaker 1: you know, that's why I feel like the ones I
Speaker 1: spend that are really high, like I know it's gonna last,
Speaker 1: right if you know, I'm not drunk and like fulling.
Speaker 1: I think them somewhere, you know, something happens to my
Speaker 1: dog who knows, but you know, but but yeah.
Speaker 2: So it's one of those things for me.
Speaker 1: It's like why I also liked I have several shoes
Speaker 1: from everything from I mean high end to low end
Speaker 1: or whatever. It just dippends if they look hot and
Speaker 1: you know, somebody come to and some of them are
Speaker 1: like the most more comfortable ones where it's like that
Speaker 1: middle point anyway point that cushion.
Speaker 2: The cushion literally there's no cushion in high end like zero.
Speaker 1: So talk about a little bit more of like, you know,
Speaker 1: being in the industry and like coming into as being
Speaker 1: the black female shoe designer coming up in this industry,
Speaker 1: Like how it was this, you know, was it struggles?
Speaker 1: Was it you know open doors? How you know talk
Speaker 1: about it. No, it's definitely wasn't open doors.
Speaker 3: It was more so like what I noticed mainly I
Speaker 3: would say, is like, you know, I was this fresh
Speaker 3: designer out of nowhere, like never I was doing clothing
Speaker 3: at first.
Speaker 2: I did have a clothing store at first online and
Speaker 2: people are kind of me from that.
Speaker 3: And when I transitioned over to shoes and then I
Speaker 3: put all these girls and all my stuff, people were like, whoa,
Speaker 3: what'd she like? How did she come up with this idea?
Speaker 3: And then then everyone's copying me. And then next I
Speaker 3: set this trend of like this PBC trend. I did
Speaker 3: PBC shoes, like the whole line was called transparent. It
Speaker 3: was called transparent because I didn't think right. I didn't
Speaker 3: want to like compete with a lane that I knew
Speaker 3: I wasn't even involved in more than a couple of months. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I didn't want to think of designs. I just figured
Speaker 3: everything clear, it'd be easiest.
Speaker 2: Sometimes basic is like oh you need right, and people
Speaker 2: forget about that. Yeah, that's kind of where my niche was.
Speaker 3: So then I became the popular PBC designer and then
Speaker 3: from that I started doing more designs with different fabrics
Speaker 3: and things like that.
Speaker 2: But took that took me two years to get there
Speaker 2: because I.
Speaker 1: Was like, there's levels, you know, but we were good
Speaker 1: at what she did. You know, when you sing in
Speaker 1: everybody liked it, you know, they grew into something. And
Speaker 1: sometimes it just takes that signature look and that signature
Speaker 1: thing to like rocket and then again like your name
Speaker 1: speaks for itself because it's then that goes with like
Speaker 1: your style, Like you said, you're on with trends, and
Speaker 1: he's doing these things where it's like if you would
Speaker 1: wear it, your girlfriends would wear it. You kind of
Speaker 1: like you know who's gonna buy you know who's gonna
Speaker 1: be your buyer.
Speaker 2: That's very true. That's kinda happened.
Speaker 3: So then then like me find them find out it
Speaker 3: was black or whatever African American, it was like a
Speaker 3: little bit harder, Like I noticed that, like I'd have
Speaker 3: a big celeb or my stuff, but I wouldn't be
Speaker 3: covered on like press certain places. But then, so did
Speaker 3: you find your yourself kind of like hiding a little
Speaker 3: bit more behind because you didn't want to attach that
Speaker 3: to or did you because like people knew like obviously
Speaker 3: it's my Like on my personal page, I promote obviously
Speaker 3: it's my collection, but on my brand page, I didn't
Speaker 3: really ever put that I was African American because I
Speaker 3: was like, how would I become high end without being
Speaker 3: typecasting and put into a bubble Like I kind of
Speaker 3: felt like, oh, yeah, she's cool, but she's African American.
Speaker 2: She's not gonna ever be high end. That's kind of
Speaker 2: people think about me, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel how you could feel that way, but
Speaker 1: I feel like that's a shameful way. But I feel
Speaker 1: like it's society in a sense. It's makes you like
Speaker 1: with but it's like you are high end. You know
Speaker 1: you're high end from the beginning. It's just like when
Speaker 1: they tell you to hold onto something and they think
Speaker 1: that nobody has its worth, but you know what you're
Speaker 1: worth is at the end of the day, and that's
Speaker 1: what makes it shine even brighter at the end.
Speaker 2: And that's kind of like why your.
Speaker 1: Blessings come into fruition and everything is coming that's good
Speaker 1: to you right now. It's for you sticking it out
Speaker 1: and being you know, knowing that you had a good product,
Speaker 1: and even just your mindset and your attitude about it
Speaker 1: is really you know, humbling and very cool to see
Speaker 1: someone come up through all those things and still come
Speaker 1: out really successful.
Speaker 2: Thank you. Yeah, it was. It was difficult, but now
Speaker 2: we're like we are African American. I'm here, I'm staying.
Speaker 2: I'm here for sure. You should you know.
Speaker 1: I mean it's like you should stand up, you should
Speaker 1: have your face, you should have you know, your market
Speaker 1: if that's who you are and what your brand stands for.
Speaker 1: Is it seems like to me is who you are,
Speaker 1: you know, and it's a part of stems from that,
Speaker 1: and that's you know, you're after American and that's a
Speaker 1: beautiful thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, thank you. So you said that before about
Speaker 2: the major brands like copying all your things. How what
Speaker 2: is that feeling like?
Speaker 1: Is that like, you know, it's it's it's one of
Speaker 1: those things that it's like imitation is flattering, but it's not,
Speaker 1: you know, like, well, it.
Speaker 2: Used to hurt me a lot. Yeah my god, Oh
Speaker 2: my god. I remember I cry. I would be like,
Speaker 2: no way, I literally just put this out. You know.
Speaker 3: What's kind of funny is like I designed things that
Speaker 3: I want it to be hot, and I know would
Speaker 3: be hot, but then once I put it out in
Speaker 3: the world use it, I'm like, dang it, why I
Speaker 3: just give them the past.
Speaker 1: It's also but you're also benefiting it as well. So
Speaker 1: you know, how do you distinguish what you don't give up?
Speaker 1: Because I'm sure there's certain things that it's like when
Speaker 1: those moments come, like how is that struggle?
Speaker 2: How does that? You know? I had to let it go.
Speaker 2: Like one of my good friends is called He's been
Speaker 2: a legend and I love him.
Speaker 3: He was one of our first episodes. Yeah, I remember,
Speaker 3: I'll never forget, he told me. Jessica's like, Jessica, you
Speaker 3: have to just keep going. Don't you think about when
Speaker 3: someone cop is you, You're onto the next knowing you
Speaker 3: did it first, Like you have the energy you spend
Speaker 3: on that you can be taken from your creative and like,
Speaker 3: you know what, you're right and I'm gonna happen now.
Speaker 2: It's like I don't care. That's good.
Speaker 1: You know you have to like not dwell on the negative,
Speaker 1: and that's that. It's a negative. But it's again, but
Speaker 1: it's like imitation flirt. You know, it's flattering, but like
Speaker 1: you said, you did it first, you get it. You're
Speaker 1: onto the next one, bite, your next, next movie.
Speaker 2: What's going on? Right? So what do you think is
Speaker 2: the best advice you've ever been given.
Speaker 3: My mom always tells me she's the best advice always.
Speaker 3: My mom always tells sorry, tells me that just go
Speaker 3: for it, like, don't think about it, your gut in sync,
Speaker 3: because it's gonnably twice your you a different way. But
Speaker 3: whatever your initial thought was, like should I wear the
Speaker 3: white top tier of the black if it was white?
Speaker 3: First word the white, there's a reason why, you know,
Speaker 3: So you always go with your first choice always. That's
Speaker 3: important to have because I struggle with that myself. I
Speaker 3: feel like it's one of those things where it's like
Speaker 3: it's like you know your own intuition, but it's like
Speaker 3: when you start to second guess it, and it's the
Speaker 3: more you start to dwell on something, then you second
Speaker 3: get your intuition and.
Speaker 1: Then it's like which is it? And so that's that
Speaker 1: that gray area. So if you were just listened to
Speaker 1: your first thing working on.
Speaker 2: That, yeah, but yeah, but it better, you know.
Speaker 1: But it's it's I's practicing, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: It's like it's something that may not come easy all
Speaker 1: the time, but you know, you still think about it.
Speaker 2: You still think about what if I didn't do it? Then, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I know, I'll just make sure that's good advice. Mom.
Speaker 3: I like that your mom's invested. And whenever I don't
Speaker 3: listen to my mom's advice, it's never good. Ever, she said,
Speaker 3: when you come become a parent, you know, I'm like, wow,
Speaker 3: it's insane.
Speaker 2: It's pretty insane.
Speaker 1: So tell me something that everybody talks about and hypes
Speaker 1: up about, but you think is overrated.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, so many things, my god, Bitcoin and
Speaker 3: all this stuff like kryptoquarancines, like, nothing is overrated for
Speaker 3: Jesus Christ. I gave money to Sorry and invested money
Speaker 3: to dogecoin. I put four thousand dollars. It's so much
Speaker 3: money for me to do with.
Speaker 2: I hate gambling unless it's not if it's not mine,
Speaker 2: if my money, I hate it. But I it's one
Speaker 2: some money, I can roll it, Yeah, roll it, give
Speaker 2: me ten that's good. But my own money. I'm like,
Speaker 2: oh my god.
Speaker 3: So I put four thousand and I left all of it,
Speaker 3: and I'm like, my friend had just won the day
Speaker 3: I put it in and I lose. So it's like
Speaker 3: I hate gambling, and I feel like, just stick with
Speaker 3: how you make money, don't try to gamble.
Speaker 2: So what was the hype and what made you be like, oh,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do the four yeah.
Speaker 1: Oh, because like I think, like I don't know, So
Speaker 1: tell us about so you you went in at what point?
Speaker 1: And did you like kind of like how you because
Speaker 1: there's some people that are still doing well on it.
Speaker 2: It's the thing.
Speaker 3: So I went in I think it was like at
Speaker 3: sixty sixty cents or something like that, and then I
Speaker 3: pulled out when it was like forty. I don't know,
Speaker 3: I don't know how this is how it works. My
Speaker 3: friend was running it for me, but he left all
Speaker 3: his money and he now he like thirty thousand dollars
Speaker 3: he made. And if I had to, like because it's
Speaker 3: one of those things you gotta like leave it in.
Speaker 2: And I can't every day, I'm like, what does you say?
Speaker 1: Yeah, You're like for me too, I'm not a gambler.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I worked hard for this day and I'm
Speaker 1: not about to give it up. And if i am,
Speaker 1: I'm a look at it right here and like so
Speaker 1: I'm like checking numbers, like I'm a numbers person too,
Speaker 1: So I'm like, so I'm very like, yeah, I never
Speaker 1: got into it, but I wanted to there was times
Speaker 1: and I was like I can't I don't even know
Speaker 1: how to get into it or like whatever. And then
Speaker 1: I was just like I don't know enough about it,
Speaker 1: like I don't know, like I'm not a trader anyways.
Speaker 1: I just started, you know, investing into like in the
Speaker 1: market and things like that too, and a smaller scale
Speaker 1: and learning like a little bits like that. But as
Speaker 1: far as that, I was like, right, I'm going to
Speaker 1: keep my coins over here. But there's people that like
Speaker 1: did really well, so it's like, you know, yeah, but I.
Speaker 3: Definitely am like I'm very smart with my money. I'm
Speaker 3: very like I'm tired, I can be trying.
Speaker 1: Me to be like that, Like that's not a bad thing, though,
Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, you spend it well, you know, worry.
Speaker 1: I'm sure that you want to you know, that's you
Speaker 1: know what it is, but you work hard for it,
Speaker 1: so it's like why just throw it away? But somebody
Speaker 1: else is sure exactly if you want to throw yours
Speaker 1: away and mine for like, wait till mine at the end.
Speaker 1: So what is one of your social media weaknesses?
Speaker 2: Oh my god? Are you a troller? Are you going
Speaker 2: to like memes?
Speaker 1: Are you like stalking people's pages, which one Twitter, Instagram, Snapchat, TikTok.
Speaker 3: On Instagram all day long, but more so like because
Speaker 3: I'm trying to wreck my followers more like when they
Speaker 3: write me comments and dms and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: But for the most part, I think, so it's all
Speaker 2: work related.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's usually work related me just knowing what's going
Speaker 3: on in the world. But for me, like taking personal
Speaker 3: photos is so difficult. People think I'm a model and
Speaker 3: I'm that model.
Speaker 1: Like I'm like, why because you don't think about it
Speaker 1: or you think that you like don't look and you're
Speaker 1: good in your picture, Like why is it hard for
Speaker 1: you to take a like Instagram?
Speaker 2: Like people think that that's its easiest thing.
Speaker 3: Like so I get paid for brand deals every month
Speaker 3: and like being on time the exact day, the exact tag,
Speaker 3: but cash if you miss a day, if you're it's like,
Speaker 3: oh my god, I got like some food Yesterdad.
Speaker 2: Make sure put four story posts within.
Speaker 3: I'm like, what about I can't eat that day if
Speaker 3: I forget what we hear yo, And I'm like, oh
Speaker 3: my god, this just too long.
Speaker 2: I think I saw that post. Yeah, it's really good
Speaker 2: food too, but I'm like, but it's just the fact
Speaker 2: that like having to do everything with that when you're
Speaker 2: so busy already, so it's like you really have to
Speaker 2: like pencil it in, which is like and then you
Speaker 2: like forget because you're already hungry. And then you're like,
Speaker 2: damn it, I forgot. It was so key already doing
Speaker 2: that a lot of life.
Speaker 1: I feel like I was the same, and like my
Speaker 1: brain thinks, like sometimes it's like in certain other things.
Speaker 1: But if you shift gears because they do like thousands
Speaker 1: of different dogs by your head, right, you forget that
Speaker 1: one back there that you're like, damn sing it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't be mad at me. I know.
Speaker 3: So these girls I have like millions of followers, and
Speaker 3: they like health junkies and they do all these things
Speaker 3: and make up at ten am, and I'm like, if
Speaker 3: three cameras to their house with lighting and editors.
Speaker 2: Are like, I don't know how up? I cannot How
Speaker 2: do you afford to do all that? Yeah? Because that's expensive?
Speaker 2: That adds. Yes, I'm just stick to designing. So what
Speaker 2: advice would you give your younger self if you could?
Speaker 1: This mom gives you a lot of good advice. I'm
Speaker 1: sure you have good advice inside of you too? What
Speaker 1: would you give your younger self?
Speaker 3: You know what's funny is like I'm not saying that
Speaker 3: I'm like I'm perfect or anything, but that's the way
Speaker 3: I used to live my life, and I still live
Speaker 3: my life where I don't have things to tell myself
Speaker 3: that makes sense, okay, Like I never I never live
Speaker 3: in regret like.
Speaker 2: Any you have everyone to do. I did it.
Speaker 3: Like if I had ten dollars for my name and
Speaker 3: my rent was you tomorrow, I spend the ten dollars
Speaker 3: on and I care.
Speaker 2: You know, I just reckless. I am just like reckless
Speaker 2: way you know what I'm saying. But it always works out.
Speaker 2: It always works out. God always has me. But have
Speaker 2: you always been like that? Always been like that since
Speaker 2: your Yeah? So you would you would tell her just
Speaker 2: keep doing the same thing, baby, Yeah, the same thing.
Speaker 3: And I would say, maybe try to live a little
Speaker 3: bit more like in the moment, because if you're ever
Speaker 3: around me, I'm on two phones at a time, but
Speaker 3: that's the thing.
Speaker 2: I work from my phone.
Speaker 3: So I'm very blessed to get to this point in
Speaker 3: my life where I could be anywhere at any time
Speaker 3: and work and I don't.
Speaker 2: Have to anywhere. Yeah, so people have to respect that,
Speaker 2: and people just oh my god.
Speaker 1: It's a guilt thing sometimes and sometimes it's like for me,
Speaker 1: it's like you have to you do have to micromanage
Speaker 1: it to a point, right. But then it's because it's
Speaker 1: like okay, maybe at seven or eight o'clock, pick a
Speaker 1: time where it's like, okay, maybe I should put it down.
Speaker 1: It's like I'm the same way, like I work on
Speaker 1: my phone. Everything I do for the podcast is on
Speaker 1: my phone. But it's like sometimes they're like, what are
Speaker 1: you doing. I'm really working.
Speaker 2: I'm not on it. You know.
Speaker 1: Sometimes it isn't Instagram thing, but you're working, you're posting
Speaker 1: things or doing whatever.
Speaker 2: And sometimes it's not. You know, it just depends on
Speaker 2: what is. So it's for me, I'm like, okay, at
Speaker 2: this point when we're either eating or doing whatever, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna put it done right. But other time you are
Speaker 2: just that's hard. You're here to deal with it. But again,
Speaker 2: it's a work in progress because it's so hard not
Speaker 2: to not make money.
Speaker 1: I feel like you're missing out on something or it's
Speaker 1: like that fomo of like where's the next this or whatever?
Speaker 1: Or if I don't do this, Like you said, you
Speaker 1: have all these checklists that you need to do that
Speaker 1: you're like, fuck, what if I do? But then it's
Speaker 1: also sometimes it's like, okay, like really my machine to
Speaker 1: work properly, I really need.
Speaker 2: To shut down, you know what I mean. And that's
Speaker 2: for me. With the pandemic, I feel like taught me
Speaker 2: a little bit more. I'm still on edge of a
Speaker 2: little sometimes.
Speaker 1: I'm like I was talking earlier, I was like, last
Speaker 1: week wasn't the busiest for me, but I had like
Speaker 1: the next two weeks were crazy, and I was like,
Speaker 1: I found myself on the couch and I was like, man,
Speaker 1: I'm lazy.
Speaker 2: I'm this.
Speaker 1: I'm like, but I have so many things going on.
Speaker 1: But I'm like, you know what, fuck it. I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna sit here and do nothing because I deserve it.
Speaker 2: I know. I've been on this road for like ten
Speaker 2: years of my life.
Speaker 1: The last year because of the pandemic was so the
Speaker 1: first time that I've actually stayed home.
Speaker 2: The longest in my life that I was like, who
Speaker 2: am I as a person? I'm like, I don't even
Speaker 2: know how to function in my home. I didn't remember
Speaker 2: like I was.
Speaker 1: They're probably fifty percent of the time, and so I
Speaker 1: had to learn how to be love a real persona
Speaker 1: and learn how to do real relationships and not.
Speaker 2: Be like I'm out like you know.
Speaker 1: So it's it's a lot of personal growth, which is
Speaker 1: always amazing, especially this stage of my life, but definitely
Speaker 1: challenging of whatever. But those also things of like what
Speaker 1: you put into yourself where it's like, oh, maybe I
Speaker 1: should have taken a bath or just turned it off
Speaker 1: or watched a whole fucking Netflix series.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Fuck, I watched so many Netflix series. I've been netflixed out,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: But yeah, did you ever catch COVID? I did not,
Speaker 2: while you're lucky not you caught COVID back in July? Yeah,
Speaker 2: how was that for you? Was it?
Speaker 1: It was a mile though, Yeah, So it wasn't something
Speaker 1: that took you out completely. You just kind of like
Speaker 1: a normal.
Speaker 3: Cold or something mild, thank god, like anything. But yeah,
Speaker 3: I lost my piece of smell, but I got back
Speaker 3: within four days. I know how I got in. My
Speaker 3: friend came to my house lively, and I had seen
Speaker 3: no one the entire COVID, not one person. My friend
Speaker 3: came over and dropped off a bottle of wine for me.
Speaker 3: And that's when things are trying to kind of open
Speaker 3: up maybe, like you know, end of July for like
Speaker 3: a week, and he was there for five minutes. When
Speaker 3: he was there, he was like, ess, it's really hot
Speaker 3: in here. I'm like really, but but my place is
Speaker 3: always hot. I'm black, everything's always you know. So I
Speaker 3: was like, okay, I'll turn the air on.
Speaker 2: Turn the air on.
Speaker 3: He left next day, He's like, just I'm so sick. Yeah,
Speaker 3: my god, feel so shitty. I'm really bad temperature.
Speaker 2: I'm like, you're like yeah. He's like, I get tested.
Speaker 2: And then I was like I'm fine.
Speaker 3: Four days later, then I started feeling like cold, it
Speaker 3: kind of like achy sweats, Like I'm oh, it's just
Speaker 3: a cold, and then boom got cold.
Speaker 2: Do you have anything like lingering effects afterwards? No?
Speaker 3: I mean know, my mind smells a little off for
Speaker 3: about month. I'd say it was like not as strong.
Speaker 3: I don't think it's still as strong as it was
Speaker 3: because I live. That's like everyone, it's been different, like
Speaker 3: I know for me and like I don't know, I
Speaker 3: don't know.
Speaker 2: Maybe I've gotten it one time in my life and
Speaker 2: I didn't know about it or like whatever. But I
Speaker 2: mean I'm pretty healthy.
Speaker 1: I you know, I'm on a like I do he
Speaker 1: like blacks and sea moss like every day, like like
Speaker 1: on a red like for the last six months or so.
Speaker 1: But even before then, I was still doing something like
Speaker 1: ginger like all this stuff whatever. So I don't know
Speaker 1: if it's just because of that or like I've gotten
Speaker 1: before in January, who knows, I don't know, but I've
Speaker 1: been luckily not to so.
Speaker 2: But yeah, but I feel like.
Speaker 1: At this point in our in my life, like I
Speaker 1: will get it eventually sometimes, you know, but exactly I
Speaker 1: I'm not running in line to go and jump and
Speaker 1: go and do it. But if I have to be
Speaker 1: forced to for travel purposes or whatever, then I will
Speaker 1: cross that bridge when it comes to it.
Speaker 2: But I'm not.
Speaker 1: I'm just like we said that I've been you know,
Speaker 1: I've I've traveled a little bit, you know, not crazy
Speaker 1: like I normally would, but I have gone places and
Speaker 1: I haven't gotten it. And like I said, it for
Speaker 1: what I do, it's working for me. I'm so cautious.
Speaker 1: Like you know, I've always been like not a germophobe.
Speaker 1: But even when I traveled before, because I traveled on
Speaker 1: that plane every single week. I cleaned everything I watched.
Speaker 1: I was mindful of what I did, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, just was things. I definitely wash my hands
Speaker 1: way more than I've ever in my life, which is
Speaker 1: crazy because it's like it kind of puts you back
Speaker 1: in the basics of things that you were like personal space,
Speaker 1: doing these things or whatever that You're like, oh, this
Speaker 1: is what like normal life should be and not just
Speaker 1: like greed and like everything being you know, So you know,
Speaker 1: both stressed about certain things, but you live and you learn.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: It's definitely I'm glad that things are starting to open up.
Speaker 1: But it's also one of those things too. It's like
Speaker 1: I don't want to You're like I I'm like, do
Speaker 1: I really want to?
Speaker 2: I don't want to open up?
Speaker 1: And I'm a homebody and now I love you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. So like I've made my home my
Speaker 1: sanctuary of things, so it's like why leave or whatever?
Speaker 1: Like I like spending time with myself, Like I'm pretty fun.
Speaker 2: I know, I feel like myself. You can FaceTime people exactly.
Speaker 2: There's a lot I found a lot of things you
Speaker 2: can do when you're at home. You didn't code. You
Speaker 2: don't have to even spend as much money as you
Speaker 2: want to.
Speaker 1: But I still, you know, adulge, indulge whatever. But you
Speaker 1: know those yeah, those I have date nights. It's funny
Speaker 1: because now I'm like, on Friday, I'm like nine o'clock
Speaker 1: in bed doing something.
Speaker 2: I'm like, man, my life's so different. I used to
Speaker 2: be like going to work at nine pm and like
Speaker 2: being in a club hosting doing things. I'm like, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna go to sleep. I have no regrets, no regrets.
Speaker 2: You know, I had a lot of fun doing everything.
Speaker 2: But it's yeah, it's it's evolution and where you are
Speaker 2: and what you got in life. That's really good.
Speaker 1: Though we have all learned to like be home, so
Speaker 1: with all those things sometimes, you know, even with a
Speaker 1: pandemic going down and.
Speaker 2: Being slowing things down, but you're still like, you know,
Speaker 2: a designer.
Speaker 1: So for you, I'm sure I also give you more
Speaker 1: time to design things or even get like business wise,
Speaker 1: what are your go to strategies to kind of keep
Speaker 1: you focused on like the road to like success and
Speaker 1: getting your goals done and achieved. My go to strategies,
Speaker 1: I would say, just, uh, you know what's funny is
Speaker 1: I learned I was putting out so many styles. I
Speaker 1: put out so many styles because I was kind of
Speaker 1: like on a mission to just like make sure that
Speaker 1: I put them out first before anyone else because I
Speaker 1: could see trends really come. I feel like a person
Speaker 1: who works like every hour of the day, Like I
Speaker 1: could see you just working aimlessly trying to get you
Speaker 1: out there because you wanted to like prove a point
Speaker 1: to people that you need.
Speaker 3: That's how it was the first years. Now this is
Speaker 3: like last year, like since COVID to now now I've
Speaker 3: had so many styles. Now I'm being very particular about
Speaker 3: what I put out, Okay, when I put it out,
Speaker 3: and now like this year, i'ven't put out any shoes November.
Speaker 2: So now I feel happy about it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but if you were, but it's like it's a
Speaker 1: stress you know what I mean, where it's like you've
Speaker 1: done those things where it's like now it's like why
Speaker 1: shouldn't you make it a like people are.
Speaker 2: Waiting for the next job.
Speaker 3: Like now that's what I kind of miss Like I
Speaker 3: kind of missed the customer being waiting for it because
Speaker 3: I used to put it out once a month and
Speaker 3: so it's a new look of them.
Speaker 2: Rashing those shoes and be like where the Jessica can't
Speaker 2: be their like shoes? Yeah, like some growing DM. It's
Speaker 2: like just it isn't about time for I'm like, oh
Speaker 2: yeah like tap tap miss Jessica.
Speaker 3: But yeah yeah, so no, I think just doing them now.
Speaker 3: It's just kind of more about my personal life, like
Speaker 3: I'm getting older, I'm single, I'm you know, I need
Speaker 3: a boyfriend. It's so hard to say dating life.
Speaker 2: What what's all that about? Day life is disaster?
Speaker 3: So you're not on any like sites, you're not anything
Speaker 3: going on. The guy I'm dating right now actually met
Speaker 3: him on his side people, But you are dating. I
Speaker 3: mean I'm dating someone.
Speaker 1: It's very fresh, like five dates and six so what
Speaker 1: does that mean, Like it's like five or six dates
Speaker 1: in and what kind of span like a week, two weeks,
Speaker 1: a month?
Speaker 2: Okay, it's going okay, like steady right now? Okay, Yeah,
Speaker 2: you're not exclusive though private talk listeners out there. You
Speaker 2: still have a chance.
Speaker 1: So if you want to go and like you know,
Speaker 1: splid in her DM, you know, maybe you have a chance,
Speaker 1: but you have to have a great resume. I might
Speaker 1: have to be like yeah, the gatekeeper of those things
Speaker 1: because I cut.
Speaker 2: My I love you know what it is. It's like
Speaker 2: I am very picky and I have to be obviously.
Speaker 1: Because there's nothing wrong with that. I don't don't say
Speaker 1: that as a bad thing. Girl, speak it out loud.
Speaker 2: You can always ask why am I single? Like, well,
Speaker 2: it's not that easy to date me like it is.
Speaker 2: I'm like, speak for us, girl, I'm a single too.
Speaker 1: I mean for me, like I said, I get dating
Speaker 1: life is word like, but for me, like that, you said,
Speaker 1: how did you find this one?
Speaker 2: Now? You hinge? A hinge?
Speaker 3: Okay, my girlfriend from a boyfriend hinge another for a
Speaker 3: year now and she's like just try a hinge.
Speaker 1: I'm like, are you serious? I mean, I feel like,
Speaker 1: but did people like know who you were? What did
Speaker 1: that make you feel? Kind of like intimidated to know?
Speaker 2: Like it's so funny. I've had a couple, that's the thing.
Speaker 2: The people that I met.
Speaker 3: I'm sure maybe people saw me on there and said,
Speaker 3: but people I didn't match with them, so that okay, yeah, okay, yeah,
Speaker 3: but like I haven't had anyone saying like, oh I
Speaker 3: know you, but just one guys, oh I know you,
Speaker 3: but it's like, why are you want here? I'm like,
Speaker 3: why Instagram was so hard to meet people? It's all thirsty,
Speaker 3: like crappy guys that I don't like.
Speaker 2: I'm so particular. My type is so TWI tea that
Speaker 2: if it's not that, I.
Speaker 1: Don't want to describe it to us. Yeah, Like it
Speaker 1: has to be like entrepreneurial. I have to have your
Speaker 1: own business or like not be strapped down to like
Speaker 1: nine to five. I mean, could we have a nine
Speaker 1: to five? It's fine, but it has to be like
Speaker 1: your own thing, Okay.
Speaker 3: I mean because I've dated guys who don't have their
Speaker 3: own companies and it's just hard.
Speaker 2: For us so tie down to somebody else's idea. Yeah, okay, because.
Speaker 3: Then we don't have about to talk about on a
Speaker 3: day to day basis. That makes I mean, I want
Speaker 3: the same goals with my guy.
Speaker 2: We both want to do this. We both want to
Speaker 2: get the house, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Yeah, no kids, preferably someone who want to go to
Speaker 3: their family. Someone that has a great style. That's like
Speaker 3: number one for me. Like style looks like you don't
Speaker 3: want to be a stylist. Yeah, I used to be
Speaker 3: a men's stylist, be honest, and I'm very good at
Speaker 3: telling guys. So this one has their own like.
Speaker 2: But you want to be like make sure that he
Speaker 2: has it already put together, Like you're like, let me
Speaker 2: just go in your closet. You don't want to be
Speaker 2: like picking everything out for it.
Speaker 3: Literally, No, you know someone who's like a gentleman. That's
Speaker 3: hard to find too. I've been on dates with guys
Speaker 3: or I'm even walk on the right side of the street.
Speaker 3: I'm like, dude, why I'm on the right side of
Speaker 3: the street. You're old fashioned.
Speaker 2: I like it so fast. It should be that way though,
Speaker 2: But those are the things.
Speaker 1: It's like some women like you say it like it's
Speaker 1: a negative thing, Like if that's what you need and
Speaker 1: you want, then that's what you need and you deserve,
Speaker 1: and there shouldn't be any like if I'm just used
Speaker 1: to a.
Speaker 2: Certain way of being treated and that looks like I
Speaker 2: can't go down. It's a standard for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, especially if that's what you like as from a man,
Speaker 1: because that's a man quality, then that's okay. Because people
Speaker 1: get it twisted like I'm a boss and all that
Speaker 1: bowl and I'm thankful for that, but I'm also very
Speaker 1: submissive my relationships.
Speaker 2: I let the man be the man.
Speaker 3: I'm not someone that's like I've definitely had my speak
Speaker 3: about things like restaurants and what to do. I'll put
Speaker 3: my input, but I let the guy be the guy.
Speaker 3: And that's I think people getated by. They think that
Speaker 3: I'm just like so autphu all the way that they
Speaker 3: don't have any room to come and I'm like, no,
Speaker 3: I'm so chill.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like that's why, Like, but those are
Speaker 1: the guys that are like the ones that don't need
Speaker 1: a shot, because it's like, if you're not willing to
Speaker 1: see that I have an other side, and if you
Speaker 1: can't be alpha too and not alpha, like like what's
Speaker 1: the word like over egotistical alpha, because there's a level
Speaker 1: of like what your alpha can like be like, don't
Speaker 1: try to out alpha me, because I let me be
Speaker 1: alpha what I need to be, but let me also
Speaker 1: be like okay, thanks exactly in es sense. But I
Speaker 1: feel like that's you know, then they're not deserving exactly.
Speaker 2: So what why is this one special? Why is he's
Speaker 2: on front number five, number six state? Like, oh, he
Speaker 2: kept him around, he kept him around.
Speaker 3: Let's see well, first of all, he's he's my type
Speaker 3: for like physically everything type. But he has a great
Speaker 3: personality because jobs really interesting as well.
Speaker 2: We have a lot in common with that.
Speaker 3: And he's also consistent, consistent, like everyday text, every day calls.
Speaker 2: How are you are you? Like? Is that your love language? Yeah, affirmation,
Speaker 2: boards of affirmation or my love language like keeps stuff.
Speaker 2: I'm very giving to like someone who are giving is
Speaker 2: also is very important. He's really into this family, Like.
Speaker 3: You know, he's allowed to day outside of his race
Speaker 3: because I usually dating racially and they can't usually day
Speaker 3: outside the races. So his parents approven me be fuck,
Speaker 3: it's fine, Like okay, So those type of things are
Speaker 3: very important.
Speaker 1: So all the boxes are checking off, Yeah, like a
Speaker 1: lot of them. That's very fifth or sixth day and
Speaker 1: you already get family approval.
Speaker 2: That's pretty going.
Speaker 3: Don't know, I haven't met his family, but what we
Speaker 3: had a conversation like are you allowed to be black girls?
Speaker 3: He's like, yeah, my girl was talking to you before
Speaker 3: it was black okay, perfect, okay, So it was okay okah.
Speaker 2: I was like, wow, that's a fast track. Where are
Speaker 2: we going? Where are we going? So what do you
Speaker 2: think is one thing that men fuck up in relationships.
Speaker 3: I would just say being honest because at the end
Speaker 3: of the day, we are women and we just want
Speaker 3: the truth.
Speaker 2: We can roll with it.
Speaker 3: If it's you call me and say this as long
Speaker 3: as I know the truth. If you make me look crazy,
Speaker 3: if you lie to me and I find out later,
Speaker 3: it's just freaking true. Is making you look crazy?
Speaker 2: Just yeah, what have you done?
Speaker 1: What's the craziest thing that you've done that made you
Speaker 1: look crazy because of a man's situation?
Speaker 2: No, no, no, none of my exes have ever from
Speaker 2: me that situation.
Speaker 3: But if it was that, if it was that, oh gosh,
Speaker 3: like be married still and me not knowing about it,
Speaker 3: or like I mean like baby mama or kids I
Speaker 3: don't know about, or just you used to be in
Speaker 3: jail ninety five times. Yeah, honestly thing Yeah, like you're
Speaker 3: an ex convict who smuggled money from I don't know, like.
Speaker 2: About your dating appoy these men coming from. I'm just
Speaker 2: saying those are things that was scared.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like you know, because I'm in the public eye
Speaker 3: and like, I mean, the minute I post a picture
Speaker 3: of someone's like, oh my, who is it? Like I
Speaker 3: remember I was I have a lot of I have
Speaker 3: a lot of guy friends. Like I have a lot
Speaker 3: of guy friends. And there's a guy that like likes me,
Speaker 3: but generally show me he likes me. And I posted
Speaker 3: this other guy like friends. Oh you're dating this as
Speaker 3: your boyfriend.
Speaker 2: Is like yo, slow doubt. That's when they start getting mad.
Speaker 2: Oh why did you like now? So you think I'm
Speaker 2: just walking out with girls all day? No, I have
Speaker 2: guy friends. It can go both ways. Sometimes you heard that,
Speaker 2: You're like, please, I wish I had never heard that before. Yeah,
Speaker 2: then I don't know what's funny? That's up? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 2: So I would hate to tag someone And I was like, Jessica,
Speaker 2: did you know he had like five girls? You're like no,
Speaker 2: I didn't know. Yeah, tagging some that's a big deal,
Speaker 2: Like you know what I mean on your I'm more
Speaker 2: so for the girl.
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm very confident woman, but I'm more so about
Speaker 3: this when girls, because I know girls have really nice,
Speaker 3: good guys, and if they tag.
Speaker 2: Them, I know the girls like, oh my god, who
Speaker 2: is he? What does he do? Like?
Speaker 3: They want to like they investigate, yeah, negative onto the
Speaker 3: relationship and it ruins.
Speaker 1: It you'll never see anyone I'm ever dating on my
Speaker 1: Instagram at all because it's nobody's busins. I already give
Speaker 1: my life so much to like everything else that I
Speaker 1: was like, I have some things private, like I don't
Speaker 1: need to advertise it, like I you know, I don't
Speaker 1: not keep him around it, like he's not hidden anymore.
Speaker 2: I mean, there's no guy out there at all.
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying he wouldn't be hidden under a
Speaker 1: rock or anything. But to my you know, friends and
Speaker 1: family and whatever, it is like that's cool. But to
Speaker 1: the world, it's a persona and that's Instagram like right,
Speaker 1: it's not reality of whatever. So I keep mine very
Speaker 1: close knit. Everything that they get to get out of
Speaker 1: me lately is private talk, which is really cool because
Speaker 1: it's been, you know, a great platform for me to
Speaker 1: talk my shit and uncensoredness and learn a little bit
Speaker 1: more about me through my guests I have, which she's
Speaker 1: just in typical conversation.
Speaker 2: It's like girl talk. I'm getting a little bit more intimate.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 3: No, I definitely if I get a boyfriend, then I'm
Speaker 3: definitely gonna put him on there, but I'm not going
Speaker 3: to attack it.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, I'm saying you don't need to like advertise,
Speaker 2: it'll still find it. Think, yes they will. Girl, What
Speaker 2: are your these Instagram?
Speaker 1: I mean people have no I can't follow him them
Speaker 1: of the follow him the other way you're sweating over
Speaker 1: they're like, oh, damn it, I mean I can't.
Speaker 2: That's funny, that's really funny.
Speaker 1: So sad, No, it's not sad. What is your craziest
Speaker 1: encounter with the celebrity? Do you have any craziest encounter?
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, there's.
Speaker 2: People like rude to you. Did they tell you like
Speaker 2: any Maybe they try to hit on you and you're like, oh,
Speaker 2: I don't know how to get out of this? Did
Speaker 2: maybe just.
Speaker 3: Being I had some pretty crazy I've had some pretty
Speaker 3: I have a lot of celebrity friends.
Speaker 2: I did.
Speaker 3: I did a couple of celebrities actually, but I can't
Speaker 3: say too many food but one's really know. So I
Speaker 3: don't know if you guys probably know publicly I dated
Speaker 3: stuff in today, stuff about Fonte's Melby's ex husband. But
Speaker 3: when I dated him, he was fresh out of his marriage.
Speaker 3: Everyone thought that I ruined it, I broke it up,
Speaker 3: and I literally had known stuff and even wh who
Speaker 3: was married, but just his friends. I just knew him,
Speaker 3: and then after they broke up, we kind of connected,
Speaker 3: and then I was all over social media and all
Speaker 3: the tabloids like Jessica rich One, I'm like, first of all,
Speaker 3: you guys.
Speaker 2: Can't just believe, and then wrote everything.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's the most sweetest, down the earth guy you
Speaker 3: would ever meet. And he would never even like have
Speaker 3: an argument with me, Like he hates everything you guys
Speaker 3: like see in tablets. He's opposite of that. So it's
Speaker 3: like ghost to show you can't judge a book by
Speaker 3: its cover. And I had so many blogs and I'm
Speaker 3: my god, I was like, oh my gosh, she would
Speaker 3: just go crazy.
Speaker 1: With So you just got labeled like it was because
Speaker 1: it was the one. It was the one after, so
Speaker 1: it needs to be like that whole thing. It was
Speaker 1: like you were the one right after. So it was
Speaker 1: like you got labeled like, oh you broke them up. Yah,
Speaker 1: you did this, And you're like, wait, I didn't.
Speaker 3: Even know he's a theater in this. I'm like, no,
Speaker 3: she was a crazy one. I'll talk to her face.
Speaker 3: She was a crazy one. Yeah, And it was totally
Speaker 3: not him and everyone that met stuff in I said
Speaker 3: the same thing, like, oh my god, he's so down
Speaker 3: or he's he's actually like probably a dream guy. So
Speaker 3: you've never seen him act out of character, even if
Speaker 3: he's drunk, mad or something, and like whatever, because people
Speaker 3: sometimes get out of you know, out of character, not
Speaker 3: because it makes him a bad person, but sometimes things
Speaker 3: happen or whatever. Maybe the other persons, you know, they're
Speaker 3: just fighting and things happen, or alcohol, drugs, who knows.
Speaker 3: You never saw any kind of side where you were
Speaker 3: just like it could slightly be true.
Speaker 2: No, when he when he is drong, he didn't even
Speaker 2: know he's drong. It's the scary part. Those are the
Speaker 2: scary Those are the scary type.
Speaker 1: And you're like when they tell you afterwards, you're like,
Speaker 1: damn it, I thought you were sober the whole time.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, he's one of my good friends.
Speaker 3: So, I mean, the reason we didn't work out and
Speaker 3: I mean I don't know we at the time, it
Speaker 3: wasn't right, like he didn't want to settle down at
Speaker 3: the moment because he was still going to crazy divorce.
Speaker 2: We're still really cool friends, so there's still a chance.
Speaker 3: So single brought him last week, like he's just a
Speaker 3: good friend of mine still, but I don't think Sepone
Speaker 3: will ever be ready to settle settle down again though
Speaker 3: that was ten years of his life.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's so hard. You know, marriage is
Speaker 1: a difficult you know thing. Well, marriage, yes, it's a
Speaker 1: difficult thing. But divorce after something that was so long
Speaker 1: of a marriage or whatever, and you know, it's very
Speaker 1: it takes you up. Like I, you know, I was
Speaker 1: I'm divorced and I was married for three years and
Speaker 1: together for five but it was still with that it
Speaker 1: was like one of the hardest things I had to
Speaker 1: do and it was my choice, but it was something
Speaker 1: that is like very You see a lot of stuff,
Speaker 1: especially know his was life super in the media and
Speaker 1: you know, things like that. So it's like you don't
Speaker 1: if it's right wrong or anything going on, which is
Speaker 1: nobody business, but what their relationship and their family only right,
Speaker 1: you still have to live it even if it's not
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So it's like you live
Speaker 1: it double, which is you know, the unfortunate thing about
Speaker 1: how mainstream media is and you know, and sometimes they missed,
Speaker 1: you know, they portray things unfortunately. What are your thoughts on, like,
Speaker 1: how do you feel mainstream media is What are your
Speaker 1: thoughts on that. Do you think that it's a positive thing,
Speaker 1: negative thing? Do you think mainstream media as far as
Speaker 1: like relationships just in general, I mean mainstream media, it's
Speaker 1: it's good they have ways.
Speaker 2: To construe any any narrative they do.
Speaker 3: Like I know a lot of friends that are close
Speaker 3: to Kanye and Kim and like what they're going through
Speaker 3: and what they want through, Like I know what's really
Speaker 3: going on, and like what they see on the media
Speaker 3: is completely opposite why they're breaking up. So it's like
Speaker 3: crazy how you just never know. But people get so
Speaker 3: you know, like stuck on what the media tells them,
Speaker 3: and no matter what they say, they just don't believe it.
Speaker 2: Why are they breaking up? Jessica, I can't tell you.
Speaker 2: We want the truth, no.
Speaker 3: But honestly, it's just insane. Like if I tell your
Speaker 3: shoes are green, it's like you just have crazy.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's definitely one of those things that it's it's
Speaker 1: very manipulated like into how they want you to see anything,
Speaker 1: any situation, you know what I mean, Which it's crazy
Speaker 1: how it could work in your favor and then not.
Speaker 1: You know, I've had a lot of people on the
Speaker 1: couch too, you know where it's been good and bad
Speaker 1: and you know them seeing the difference. And again, at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, we're all people. We make mistakes.
Speaker 1: We you know, we're real life, like this is our
Speaker 1: real lives. We're not you know, doing things for TV
Speaker 1: airtime whatever things is Like, people go through things, they
Speaker 1: struggle from anything from relationships stuff, to family things to
Speaker 1: personal work things.
Speaker 2: It just depends, you know.
Speaker 1: People need to just be more empathetic, I think, and yeah,
Speaker 1: realize that we're you know, the media sometimes portray things
Speaker 1: that it's not so shiny sometimes yeah, and it doesn't
Speaker 1: have to be so bad sometimes either.
Speaker 2: Very true.
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Speaker 1: I'm excited. I've been enjoying this episode. I hope you
Speaker 1: guys have two. I hope you've been having fun this
Speaker 1: what's fun? You're ready to play truth with Taxes?
Speaker 2: Ready? How do we play?
Speaker 1: All right, so you're gonna pick a card. You're gonna
Speaker 1: pick each of the cards, and each one is going
Speaker 1: to mean a different type of question, which is going
Speaker 1: to be get to know you a little bit more intimately.
Speaker 2: We have private h you know.
Speaker 1: Information needs to be coming out right now, just Jessica
Speaker 1: Rich but no, it would be a naughty question or
Speaker 1: romantic question, a kinky question.
Speaker 2: And yeah, let's right with it. I pick So I
Speaker 2: picked four. Just pick one at a time and we'll
Speaker 2: see what I gotta go. Okay, it's nice.
Speaker 1: It's a diamonds. Okay, So the diamonds. It's a spicy question.
Speaker 1: They're all a little spicy. Don't don't be shy shy, Okay,
Speaker 1: craziest place you've ever had sex?
Speaker 2: In the woods.
Speaker 1: In the woods, can you explain the labyorn a little
Speaker 1: bit in the story? And they are you camping or
Speaker 1: you just like ran into the wood he's camping?
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, this is we take this back to like
Speaker 3: my twenties. I literally was eating a guy and we
Speaker 3: were what were you doing?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 3: I know, his car broke down and we like pushed
Speaker 3: the car and then we were waiting for the tone trunk.
Speaker 2: So as you're pointing to the tone truck, he just
Speaker 2: started like you're like, damn, I'm so it's like a
Speaker 2: porno movie. It's like, you know, the car breaks down,
Speaker 2: waving the mechanic and off in the woods out of nowhere,
Speaker 2: like heart deck just came about wait for an hour
Speaker 2: hour wait. So yeah, that was fun. It was fun.
Speaker 2: It was fun. Was it like, was that the first
Speaker 2: time you never had sex outside? Yes? First time? Are
Speaker 2: you like an exhibitionist like that? You know, I'm very
Speaker 2: kinky when it comes to like I'm down for whatever,
Speaker 2: like you know whatever, chains will you know, say your name?
Speaker 2: Don't like us and chains. I'm not only being comforted.
Speaker 1: Like no, but you're doing them not to like you
Speaker 1: being changed, like you're doing it to them there, going
Speaker 1: to be a mistress, be like with your whip, get
Speaker 1: on your knees and serve me now.
Speaker 2: Mistress rich you know it's just rich, mistress.
Speaker 3: It just rolls off the tongue, it does, it roils off. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I've definitely done something like that before. I've changed someone before.
Speaker 1: I'm sure you have some sexy costumes, like some black
Speaker 1: latex like a picture.
Speaker 2: Maybe I'm just having a sexual fan like now it's
Speaker 2: like an out right yeah, like a nurse out there. No,
Speaker 2: you can't be nurse because you know it has to
Speaker 2: be like dumb like black laid text. You have fish nets,
Speaker 2: you know, like a little whip. You know, cat will
Speaker 2: be like like if you know, like a dungeon vibe.
Speaker 2: Got it? You need to be like, yeah, I'll give
Speaker 2: you some pointers. I see where this is going for you.
Speaker 2: I see where this is going for you.
Speaker 1: All right, what are some completely like off limit things
Speaker 1: in the bedroom, Like you're like absolutely no, I will
Speaker 1: not do it. Maybe you've tried it or you will
Speaker 1: just won't try it? No anal no, anal ever again?
Speaker 1: Why it was just something absolutely painful, just hated it
Speaker 1: just it was I used numming cream. It's so it
Speaker 1: was disaster for your first time you use themming What
Speaker 1: do you mean?
Speaker 2: But how do how do you hold up Jessica, we're
Speaker 2: new friends here, but we're about to get into it.
Speaker 2: But this is my question.
Speaker 1: Okay, but how do you, like, did you pre plan
Speaker 1: the anal play well, because like, how do you just
Speaker 1: be like, this is my first time and wait, I
Speaker 1: have anal loop.
Speaker 2: I mean an he.
Speaker 3: Requested it prior, like, oh my god, let's try this.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, okay, you must have a big dick
Speaker 3: because it was small. It was not crazy, but so
Speaker 3: I just don't it's nothing supposed to be meant.
Speaker 2: To go in that area. It's I don't understand how
Speaker 2: someone with a small dick is requesting you know what
Speaker 2: it held out? Wait? What is it called anal sex? Yeah?
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, the little part No, but you
Speaker 1: mean it it's it's numbing, numbing. Yeah, you know, it's
Speaker 1: called anal ease, anal ease. Okay, if I was personally,
Speaker 1: I have a small dick.
Speaker 2: I'm not asking anyone to me like seven seven is
Speaker 2: not that small. It's not small. Yeah, seven inches is
Speaker 2: not like what if gale? Are you on?
Speaker 1: If small is worse? Seven starts just your most Most
Speaker 1: girls think like seven small, like someone's big for me,
Speaker 1: But it's not small. Yeah, I mean no, I mean
Speaker 1: I've done porno in my life, you know once you're
Speaker 1: a times. But yeah, seven's not small.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like normal.
Speaker 1: Yeah I think, I mean yeah, I think I think
Speaker 1: average is like six. I think really, I think I
Speaker 1: could be lying though I don't really know.
Speaker 2: It was just so painful. I can do it. The
Speaker 2: next day, I try to go the bathroom death. So
Speaker 2: I was never You're like, no, was it? Like it
Speaker 2: doesn't feel good at all? It's terrible. It's like a technique,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Like for me, I'm not an anal person whatever, but
Speaker 1: I have done it, and every time I had I
Speaker 1: had to be like horny for it. I couldn't prepare.
Speaker 1: That's why I'm like, how do you prepare? You know
Speaker 1: you have this on this side. I'm like, you just
Speaker 1: had to be Like I was really horning for it
Speaker 1: and I just needed it, Like but again mind yeah,
Speaker 1: like I just but I couldn't, like if I premeditatedly
Speaker 1: know you want it, I don't want to do it.
Speaker 2: I'm my pussy, my ask. Everything won't be dry.
Speaker 1: I'm like, not happening today, Sorry, not happen desert doesert storm?
Speaker 1: All right, let's move it along. Let's get another one. Okay,
Speaker 1: so we're gonna have an ace of what do we got?
Speaker 2: Got? Another? Ace of hearts? Is romantic? Would you consider
Speaker 2: yourself a romantic? I'm so romantic? Like hopeless romantic.
Speaker 1: What is the most romantic thing someone has ever done
Speaker 1: for you?
Speaker 2: Wow? I would say, And if you want to tell
Speaker 2: us who, I won't be mad at you. I mean
Speaker 2: the little private talking gosh.
Speaker 3: I remember was dating this guy. I'm all about like
Speaker 3: little Keith small gestures. So day, this guy he was
Speaker 3: like I was a film A grade the day. So
Speaker 3: he's like and mind jumping dan him maybe like two
Speaker 3: weeks right, Jess, I'm wrong, I'm not feeling well. Send
Speaker 3: you to his spas and sent me to the spa
Speaker 3: and my favorite hotels, the Bandarin Oriental in New York,
Speaker 3: probably the best hotel in New York.
Speaker 2: And send me there for the full day.
Speaker 3: We're talking, like for four hours, I walk outside two
Speaker 3: dozen roses.
Speaker 2: On the freaking thing for me, I'm like oh what
Speaker 2: the heck? Like nice, so sweet and then is wet?
Speaker 3: For sure, go shopping today, but I want to sell
Speaker 3: me a thousand dollars. I was like, definitely wet, done
Speaker 3: and done. That's the kind of thing like guys don't
Speaker 3: want to say house the small things matter, like.
Speaker 1: It's yeah, yeah, because it means you're going out of
Speaker 1: your way to make me feel good about it and
Speaker 1: not just something that just like if.
Speaker 2: You know, yeah, I like, just like random, that's what
Speaker 2: I thought. Yeah, so thoughtful. Have you ever dated a woman?
Speaker 2: You know, I've never dated a one, but I've been
Speaker 2: with a woman twice. Twice? Yeah, you like it? Love it? Hated? No,
Speaker 2: it was a defend It was like a fun thing,
Speaker 2: like just for the moment. It wasn't anything that I
Speaker 2: could do it Like, but was it with like a
Speaker 2: guy and you and her? Or was it just one
Speaker 2: on one? Yeah?
Speaker 3: So my one of my good friends, one of my
Speaker 3: best friends, like, my god, do this thing with him?
Speaker 3: And I'm like, what it wasn't me having sex with him?
Speaker 3: Which just me and her like pooling around. Have you
Speaker 3: had fooled around before with her?
Speaker 2: No? Never? How do you even start that conversation? Hey,
Speaker 2: we've never like we talked about everything. It's like girl didn't. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but I talk a lot about with my best friends.
Speaker 1: But I don't know if i'd be like, hey, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna fuck you and I've never fucked you.
Speaker 2: But it was all bull. We didn't really do. It
Speaker 2: was all for all think like my hair was here,
Speaker 2: but I wasn't.
Speaker 1: We were acting like, don't get me wrong, I'll fuck
Speaker 1: somebody if I wanted to, but I would intentionally be like, hey,
Speaker 1: we're gonna whatever. Cause like with my girlfriends, like even
Speaker 1: when I was in when I didn't you know, poorn before,
Speaker 1: Like we never like people thought we would be fucking
Speaker 1: on the time.
Speaker 2: I never fucked ever any of these people. Like it
Speaker 2: was like if we work together on set, it'd be
Speaker 2: a thing.
Speaker 1: But we never were out at a party doing whatever,
Speaker 1: and people be like thinking all kinds of like, no,
Speaker 1: that's all your imagination when the perception of what it
Speaker 1: is it's actually a job and job's not right now
Speaker 1: and so see you later, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: But so that's why for me it's like I and
Speaker 1: also too, I'm from Texas, so it's like being with
Speaker 1: girls was like very taboo. Like all my girlfri and
Speaker 1: a lot of them, I've made out with them and
Speaker 1: they'll be like the next day, we were drunk, and
Speaker 1: then they'd be like, I don't know what you're talking about.
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, sure denying, Sure, I liked it even
Speaker 1: if you did it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I didn't know sexually about girls until like later
Speaker 1: on where it like opened up and I was like, right, oh, yeah.
Speaker 2: I couldn't really be with a girl though. There's no
Speaker 2: way I eat a man like me too.
Speaker 1: I like being with girls, but like in a relationship manner,
Speaker 1: it's like I need someone to alpha me yes.
Speaker 2: And that's hard to do. That's hard to do. That's
Speaker 2: very hard to do for sure. All right, next one, okay, cool,
Speaker 2: all right, So it is a naughty question. Which were
Speaker 2: more naughty than the ones? I mean they're all all naughty.
Speaker 2: It's truth with Texas, got it, all right? Favorite place
Speaker 2: to have sex the bed, Very traditional when it comes
Speaker 2: to that doggie your missionary missionary for sure. One night stand.
Speaker 2: Never in life, never had one. This size matter. I mean,
Speaker 2: I don't like anything over seven. I'm sorry, it's seven
Speaker 2: is your number? I just like, yeah, just like I
Speaker 2: like my type. Keep it tight, keep it right? Hmmm,
Speaker 2: oral sex, slopy or clean? Clean? Have you ever scorted? Never?
Speaker 2: I don't want to learn. I don't want to do it,
Speaker 2: don't want to don't it? All right? Last question for
Speaker 2: you naughty? Alright? What type of porn turns you on?
Speaker 2: I don't watch porn, to be honest, never watched it.
Speaker 1: I've watched it before, but it's not my thing, so
Speaker 1: it's not something If you were a horny you'd be like, oh,
Speaker 1: so are you like in one of those people that's
Speaker 1: like imagination? Like are you thinking about past events? Are
Speaker 1: you like what's in your Pandora box?
Speaker 2: Like? What are you masturbating to? I would say, gosh,
Speaker 2: do you have to drap? Dangerous question? I mean you
Speaker 2: could pass if you feel uncomfortable. Yes, yeah, alright? Favorite
Speaker 2: sex toy role play? Yes or no? Not really into it?
Speaker 2: Last dirty dream you had? Last dirty dream? Or do
Speaker 2: you have dirty dreams? I never remember my dreams. I
Speaker 2: don't really remember my dreams. I don't I'm not really
Speaker 2: hiding good naught dreams. Have you ever been caught masturbating?
Speaker 3: Never?
Speaker 2: Sneaky? I live alone? All right? Last question, what's the
Speaker 2: most number of times you've had sex in a day
Speaker 2: three three. That was like very rare.
Speaker 1: Have you ever had sex with multiple people in the
Speaker 1: same day. No, it's fun sometimes.
Speaker 2: One person the one guy. I'm very like traditional when
Speaker 2: it comes to that. Yeah, so you're not a one
Speaker 2: night standing like a person, you're not kind of like any.
Speaker 3: Thing tested first, I don't even do anything with that's like,
Speaker 3: I'm sure crazy with that, and.
Speaker 2: I just like the same guy. I don't like to.
Speaker 2: There's nothing wrong with that. Don't don't you don't yourself, don't.
Speaker 2: That's nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 1: That's why mister five and six the date over there,
Speaker 1: he's still in the running. He's probably still I don't
Speaker 1: know if he's been anything. He's dipped in the poniet
Speaker 1: because he needs to go through whatever. But you know,
Speaker 1: there's a reasons and that's you know, if that's your protocol,
Speaker 1: you're inting baby steps into what it is, but that's
Speaker 1: how you manifest to read a full relationship.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just feel like.
Speaker 3: All my relationships that I've had, like real boyfriend titles,
Speaker 3: have been slow roll, like you know, dating for a
Speaker 3: couple of months and Okay, now it's like excuse it.
Speaker 2: I don't want to date otherwise.
Speaker 1: So do you think he'd be mad right now if
Speaker 1: you dated somebody else at this current moment, Like, if
Speaker 1: you want a date with somebody, and would you tell him?
Speaker 2: I mean, if he asked me, I would be honest
Speaker 2: about it. But you're not just going to indulge.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I haven't been on a date with anyone because
Speaker 3: he's my full attention. Like, I mean, the people always
Speaker 3: say keep your offense open, of course if someone text.
Speaker 2: Me wrong, and like, you know, so they're so hope
Speaker 2: for you guys, But it seems like she's taken. I mean,
Speaker 2: I mean just I mean, I just like like what
Speaker 2: I like, and like I don't want to focus on
Speaker 2: I love that though. If that works for you, then
Speaker 2: that works for you. It's a beautiful thing.
Speaker 1: And then if it doesn't work out, then I'm okay,
Speaker 1: fine that I'm and then you're onto the next.
Speaker 2: Yeah,