Speaker 1: Okay, Happy Sunday to everybody. Appreciate you guys being here tonight,
Speaker 1: and Radio Tube in the house. My wife is in
Speaker 1: the chat and several others of you are in the
Speaker 1: chat there, so thank you for joining us tonight Sunday
Speaker 1: Night Live stream. Ham Radio two point zero special shout
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Speaker 1: Ham Radio Crusader in there earlier. Thanks Freddy, Andy A
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Speaker 1: I J I think I'm reading that right. Randall's in there,
Speaker 1: Jody's in there. M netics huh v E five s
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Speaker 1: for being there, guys, Brian to see you in there,
Speaker 1: K E eight O VP, appreciate you guys being here tonight.
Speaker 1: And oh there's a couple of Andy's. Yeah, they can't
Speaker 1: hear you right now, Frank, there's there's a couple of Andy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's Andy Kelly from the UK, and then there's A
Speaker 1: A zero A m Andy. He's in there often as well.
Speaker 1: So that is yep, that's the that's where it's at
Speaker 1: but okay, so let me let me in fact, let
Speaker 1: me just let me just bring Frank on real quick. Hi.
Speaker 2: Hi, how you doing good?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 2: Doing good? I wonder and and I know I should
Speaker 2: have asked beforehand. I wonder how the pre sales are
Speaker 2: and those mugs are going. Man, you know what people
Speaker 2: hit me up? I ordered?
Speaker 1: Yeah I will. I'll pull that up real quick, because yes,
Speaker 1: I've I've had I've had several of them sold. And
Speaker 1: let me make this transition over here right there. Okay,
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Speaker 1: It's a pretty cool looking mugg. It kind of looks
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Speaker 2: Mugl I kind of like it because the unique style
Speaker 2: of it and everything, and it's not just like hey
Speaker 2: it's a coffee mug. Oh you beat me to it.
Speaker 2: I just found it. Oh sure, yeah man, Yeah, this
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Speaker 2: and I. The is only only only a limited order,
Speaker 2: so you have to pre order it. After I close
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Speaker 1: sweet okay, Uh yeah, Jody says, I changed channel names
Speaker 1: like I changed underwear, trying to show politicians how it's done.
Speaker 1: There we go right there.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, politicians should be changed.
Speaker 1: Yes, often and frequently. That's right. Really, you're not gonna
Speaker 1: be frank on now. It's gonna bring Frank cok. Just
Speaker 1: kind of kind of ignoring him for as long as
Speaker 1: I could, but you know, you know how that goes. Okay,
Speaker 1: So I'm stalling a little bit because I traded texts
Speaker 1: with Chris yesterday to confirm our live stream today and
Speaker 1: he's like, yep, we're all good, all good, all good.
Speaker 1: And then I sent him the zoom link earlier and
Speaker 1: told him what time he knew what time it was.
Speaker 1: I told him what time it was, and uh, he
Speaker 1: hasn't He hasn't joined yet. So we're just gonna sit
Speaker 1: here in gab until he till he joined.
Speaker 2: I am kind of ashamed. You've been talking about this book.
Speaker 2: Josh Ham radio Craft course has been talking about this book.
Speaker 2: Mike has formerly known as I'm forgetting his other channel.
Speaker 2: Now I have radio stuff. Now he's Tube, but his
Speaker 2: former I like to call the former. That's fun all
Speaker 2: been talking about this book and I have not done
Speaker 2: anything with it yet. I should have put it in
Speaker 2: my audio. It is audio.
Speaker 1: You can't get it in an audio. Yes, uh huh,
Speaker 1: I mean I read him, but yes, you can do that.
Speaker 2: Because I I only listened to audiobooks because y'all know
Speaker 2: how I read.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well yeah, yeah, let's see all Star Ooh.
Speaker 2: Brian asked, will Sapphire be on the next mug? That
Speaker 2: is a great idea. That's an idea, Sapphire mug the
Speaker 2: tank radio mug to a beautiful blue Oh all right,
Speaker 2: we're gonna pin that, and I'm writing it down. I'm
Speaker 2: writing it down because I'm looking for new ideas, because
Speaker 2: I like limited time orders because it's unique. And then
Speaker 2: you'd be like, oh, I've been it's a fan way
Speaker 2: back in the day. I got the mug and the
Speaker 2: whiskey glass and the coin. Ah. I'm just I like
Speaker 2: those little little calls. That's cool, all right.
Speaker 1: So a couple of people are talking about my All
Speaker 1: Star Yeah no, my All Star system. Here's here's all
Speaker 1: the people that are connected to it right now? Uh
Speaker 1: in in in five h y h ron he was,
Speaker 1: I was training some emails with him earlier in the week.
Speaker 1: He keeped up about a half hour ago. I have
Speaker 1: not been on it for a week and a half
Speaker 1: because I've been in Alaska. We took it. My wife
Speaker 1: and I flew to Anchorage a week ago last Wednesday,
Speaker 1: and we were in fact, there's kJ five e h
Speaker 1: N right there Solina, Texas. So yeah, but let's see
Speaker 1: who was it that just said that. Arthur is saying
Speaker 1: W six h R who he's on there often he's like,
Speaker 1: can you have can you reboot it? Having an issue connected?
Speaker 1: We've still have we still have the connection issues that
Speaker 1: we have not addressed yet because well, because I've done
Speaker 1: some traveling, I have some live streams already planned and
Speaker 1: we were gonna upgrade to all Start two dot ZHO,
Speaker 1: but but.
Speaker 2: Hold on, hold on all.
Speaker 1: Star three dot oh is now available. They just came
Speaker 1: out with I've been trading emails with a guy that's
Speaker 1: that's writing some ASL, some of the ASL developers, and
Speaker 1: we're gonna get him and Charlie Freddy Mac Charlie Mack
Speaker 1: Freddy Mack crusader him ready to crusader in the chat.
Speaker 1: We're gonna get them on probably Kyle two and we're
Speaker 1: gonna talk about upgrading the system to All Star three dot. Oh,
Speaker 1: I just got to find a Sunday to do that
Speaker 1: where I don't have a guest that's on that's not
Speaker 1: showing up on time. So so we'll see, we'll see
Speaker 1: what happens with that. But yeah, so some sometimes, uh
Speaker 1: sometimes I still have to reboot it, although I've got
Speaker 1: people who just connected to it in the last few minutes.
Speaker 1: But I'll go ahead and reboot it if because I
Speaker 1: know that I know that Arthur's in there often and
Speaker 1: uh yeah, so let me just do that now. I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna log in right now and reboot this.
Speaker 2: Sweet sweet hand rate of tectonics. Bill Man said that
Speaker 2: the guy that reads him on audible does a great job. Bill.
Speaker 2: We're gonna miss you at the Yellowstone Trip, but stay safe.
Speaker 1: Okay, So, everybody who's connected to the over right now,
Speaker 1: the all Star hub is number for three one three six.
Speaker 1: I am gonna reboot it real fast. A lot of
Speaker 1: you have auto connect on and that's cool. Appreciate you
Speaker 1: guys being connected so regularly, and but I do still
Speaker 1: have some of that issue going on where the All
Speaker 1: Star system will disallow some people, but not everybody to connect.
Speaker 1: It'll disallow connections at random sometimes. So but yeah, that's.
Speaker 2: The door check's kind of calling you out about the activation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's I was gonna. I was gonna I
Speaker 1: was gonna talk about that anyway. So what we did
Speaker 1: is we went to so long story short, let me
Speaker 1: get back to the right template here. We flew to
Speaker 1: Anchorage a week ago last Wednesday. We spent the night
Speaker 1: in Anchorage. We were supposed to fly out in the
Speaker 1: morning or no, like at one or two in the afternoon,
Speaker 1: and we eat which got in our American Airlines app
Speaker 1: we got a notification saying, would you like a three
Speaker 1: hundred dollars voucher to delay your flight by like two hours?
Speaker 1: And we're like sure, so we both took that. Uh So,
Speaker 1: we took the voucher, got got a credit for a
Speaker 1: ticket later on, and then we arrived. So we arrived
Speaker 1: two or three hours later. We arrived that evening in Anchorage.
Speaker 1: Of course, they're like four hours behind US. Alaskan time
Speaker 1: is no, I'm sorry, three hours behind US. Alaskan time
Speaker 1: is one hour behind California time. So uh so we
Speaker 1: got there that night. We pretty much just went to
Speaker 1: the Airbnb or the hotel we're saying that, went to bed,
Speaker 1: got up the next morning, tooled around Anchorage for a
Speaker 1: little bit, found a cool smoke shop there, got a
Speaker 1: couple of cigars, and got rented a car and drove
Speaker 1: to it. Drove south to Seward, Alaska, which is where
Speaker 1: the ship leaves, and it and it and we spent
Speaker 1: the night in Seward on Thursday, got up Friday, turned
Speaker 1: the car in, went to the ship and took a
Speaker 1: seven day cruise throughout ports in Alaska.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that sounds amazing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was fun. It was a good trip. It
Speaker 1: was a good trip. It was in the forties. It
Speaker 1: was between like forty five and sixty five the whole day,
Speaker 1: the whole time, and most of the time it was
Speaker 1: in the fifties, not even up over sixty and it
Speaker 1: wasn't too cold, but but it was. It was fun.
Speaker 1: It was good. So we stopped at two different national
Speaker 1: park well the national for there's one called I can't
Speaker 1: remember the names of them.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: There was a national forest we saw and it was huge.
Speaker 1: While we were driving from Anchorage down to Seward, we
Speaker 1: were driving in a national forest for probably one third
Speaker 1: of that one quarter to one third of that trip.
Speaker 1: So had I had a mobile HF antenna, I could
Speaker 1: have put it on the rental car and been doing
Speaker 1: mobile HF on FT eight, or me even calling CQ
Speaker 1: with the microphone. So I didn't know that. I didn't
Speaker 1: know that the route we were gonna go it was
Speaker 1: going to go through National Forest. I could have been
Speaker 1: in the National Forest making QSO's the whole time, but
Speaker 1: I didn't know that. So all I brought was my
Speaker 1: infed halfway and we stopped inside of the National Forest
Speaker 1: and set up one day, and I was hearing stations
Speaker 1: on twenty meters FT eight, but I was I called
Speaker 1: CQ for probably twenty to twenty five minutes and and
Speaker 1: got zero people coming back to me. Later on that night,
Speaker 1: I was putting. I was talking in discord and Kyle said,
Speaker 1: he's like, man, I didn't see you on Hamblert PSK
Speaker 1: report or anything. I'm like, yeah, I was like, I
Speaker 1: think we were in a valley between some mountains, and
Speaker 1: I just wouldn't getting only had ten watts, had the
Speaker 1: IC seven O five with the external battery, So I
Speaker 1: had ten watts on FT eight and just and those
Speaker 1: guys that were down in Hamvention the last well two
Speaker 1: months ago in May, who were from Alaska. He's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: the propagation up there's weird. Sometimes you just can't activate.
Speaker 1: So that kind of that kind of bothered me a
Speaker 1: little bit when I heard that, but I'm like, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna try it anyway. So we tried that one day
Speaker 1: and I just really couldn't get out. And then the
Speaker 1: next we went to another national park, a free national park.
Speaker 2: And.
Speaker 1: Set up there, which I was inside of another national forest,
Speaker 1: so that was really kind of a twofer, and set
Speaker 1: up there and and I couldn't even hear anything there,
Speaker 1: Like I like, I let the radio run for ten
Speaker 1: minutes and I couldn't. I could on twenty meter ft
Speaker 1: eight and like not even calling CQ, just monitoring fourteen
Speaker 1: seven four, and I couldn't even hear. I was not
Speaker 1: hearing anything. So I tried calling CQ for like ten minutes.
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, it's it's it's a wash. It's no good.
Speaker 1: So notick, two unsuccessful activations didn't make even a single contact.
Speaker 2: Oh man.
Speaker 1: Uh, So I told her, I said, we need to
Speaker 1: go back and spend a week in Anchorage because I
Speaker 1: really liked Anchorage a lot. I like Seward a lot.
Speaker 1: She didn't like Seward that much. She said it was
Speaker 1: too small. You know, there's nothing to do here, like sword.
Speaker 2: Is the one and the top right top of the last.
Speaker 1: No, it's no, it's down south.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm about sorry, three to four hours geometry.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's about three to four hours south of Anchorage.
Speaker 1: So uh so we did that and yeah, so I'm
Speaker 1: just like, you know what, we don't have to go
Speaker 1: back to Alaska because mm hm, just because. But but
Speaker 1: I'd like to go and stay in instead of being
Speaker 1: on a schedule of where we had to We had
Speaker 1: to drive from Anchorage to Sewer one day, drive and
Speaker 1: get on a boat and Sewer the next night, you
Speaker 1: know that kind of thing. So I was like, let's
Speaker 1: just go spend a week of five days, five six
Speaker 1: days in Anchorage and go around to different places and
Speaker 1: different parks. There's a huge National forest that's out there,
Speaker 1: and a couple of them really and it should be uh,
Speaker 1: it should be doable because I'm just dedicated a whole
Speaker 1: day just gona say, I'm just gonna go to this
Speaker 1: park in the morning and sit down and activate take
Speaker 1: a hundred wats with me this time, I'd take my
Speaker 1: FT eight ninety one or some kind of go kit,
Speaker 1: some kind of bigger great kit with me.
Speaker 2: My family's paying with an idea to go to Florida.
Speaker 2: And what would be the pros and cons of taking
Speaker 2: a radio that is less watt is versus the whole
Speaker 2: hundred watt radio because you said you had some issues
Speaker 2: not using one hundred watts.
Speaker 1: But it's pack smaller, right, Oh yeah, definitely pack smaller.
Speaker 1: M yep, yep, I don't. I mean to me, it's
Speaker 1: always good. You always got more potential making contacts with
Speaker 1: with more power. But you know, it depends on what
Speaker 1: you're trying to do, what you're trying to Uh. You
Speaker 1: know when somebody talked about say, don't didn't you try
Speaker 1: any c W? I don't know. I don't know CW
Speaker 1: well enough to try to activate a park with it.
Speaker 1: I can bumble my way through c W maybe maybe,
Speaker 1: but I don't. I can't. I don't know it well
Speaker 1: enough yet. I'm still studying, still trying to learn. I
Speaker 1: want to get with I want to get with Long
Speaker 1: Island c W Club and take one of their courses.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm but or join one of their zoom sessions
Speaker 1: or however they do that because they do those all
Speaker 1: the time.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: But I wanted yeah, but I just don't. I don't. Eventually, yes,
Speaker 1: eventually I would like to do that, but today there's
Speaker 1: just not not passed. So I took FT eight on purpose.
Speaker 1: I wanted to do sideband, but then after those two
Speaker 1: guys at hamvention were like, yeah, the propagation. If there's weird,
Speaker 1: sometimes you can't activ it. I'm like, you know, FT
Speaker 1: eight is a low noise mode, load noise of low
Speaker 1: signal load noise mode, not a low power mode, low noise,
Speaker 1: low signal mode. So I'm like, I would have better time,
Speaker 1: better chances of activating FT eight then activating sideband, especially
Speaker 1: if it's sideband QRP. So that's what I tried, and
Speaker 1: like I said, I was that first day. I was
Speaker 1: hearing all kinds of stations on twenty meters and I
Speaker 1: just couldn't get out. And I might have gotten out
Speaker 1: if I had one hundred watts, I might have been
Speaker 1: able to do that, but don't know. So the purpose
Speaker 1: of the trip was not to active. I would like
Speaker 1: to take a trip up there for the purpose of
Speaker 1: activating a park.
Speaker 2: It was a side quest. It was the main point.
Speaker 2: It was for you to get away and have some
Speaker 2: vacation time with yeah.
Speaker 1: Right right. And we had a great It was a
Speaker 1: great It was a great trip. It was a great experience.
Speaker 1: I love Alaska. It was really I've always wanted to
Speaker 1: go on Alaskan cruise. It was. We stopped in like
Speaker 1: four different ports I think it was, and went into
Speaker 1: port each day and did we did a we we
Speaker 1: took a helicopter one day and we took a helicopter
Speaker 1: up to the top of the mountain outside of which
Speaker 1: one was that I think that was Scat Was it Skagway? No,
Speaker 1: I can't remember. We stopped in Skagway the next day.
Speaker 1: I can't remember which one it was we stopped, Oh
Speaker 1: it was it was Juneo, the capitol, Juno, Okay, And
Speaker 1: so we go into Juno. We took a helicopter ride
Speaker 1: to the top of one of the mountains in Juno
Speaker 1: and there's this dog sled team that goes up there
Speaker 1: and trains dogs, and they took us around in a
Speaker 1: dog sled and I talked to them. Yeah, and I
Speaker 1: got video of the whole thing. So we're putting that
Speaker 1: on the channel soon. And I talked to them about
Speaker 1: because they got these wall tents up there, built on platforms,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, okay, so how do you And they're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we stay up here for about four and a half months.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, okay, sort of a half months, that's
Speaker 1: what they said. And it's completely off grid. Well it's complete,
Speaker 1: it's completely off grid. But I did see a starlink dish,
Speaker 1: so I'm like, so, how's it is. They're like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: we got starlink. Man, it's great.
Speaker 2: So what do they do for power? Do they do?
Speaker 2: They have? This? This part just intrigues me so much.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was the that was the thing I wanted
Speaker 1: to talk to him about the most. It was they
Speaker 1: they have. There's some generators there. I didn't see any
Speaker 1: solar panels, but and it was really cloudy the time
Speaker 1: we were up there, so I don't know how much
Speaker 1: snow and rain and cloud cover they get. It may
Speaker 1: not be worth it to even take a solar panel
Speaker 1: up there. I mean, you're gonna get something from a
Speaker 1: solar panel because the sun is out, but it's clouding
Speaker 1: the whole time. It's gonna be less efficent, far less
Speaker 1: efficient than you know, somewhere where the sun shiny. But
Speaker 1: but that I saw some propane bottles and some gasoline
Speaker 1: power generators and that kind of thing. They said that
Speaker 1: they weren't really allowed to put space propane space heaters
Speaker 1: in their tent because because of fire fire safety issues,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, okay, what about like yeah, so yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's I don't know. I just think that'd be
Speaker 1: cool to stay up there, plant a plan, a DX
Speaker 1: commander or maybe a X beam, I don't know, and
Speaker 1: stay up there for four months and work with the
Speaker 1: dogs and do live streams through their starlink and do
Speaker 1: some ham radio, get a special event call sign and
Speaker 1: just call CQ for four months. I just think that'd
Speaker 1: be fun. So they said they got like two hundred
Speaker 1: applications a year for people to go up there, and
Speaker 1: they had like forty people there. So it's like, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: I told himly I was gonna try it, but I
Speaker 1: don't know, we'll see.
Speaker 2: Well they do they have visitors like come up and
Speaker 2: spend a week or two with them. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Not to do the question four.
Speaker 2: Months camp, But that that sounded an amazing good question. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but that would really put my battery backup seapat machine
Speaker 2: to the test. Because of I can do three nights,
Speaker 2: three and a half nights on my twenty amp hour.
Speaker 2: Then the augmented a solar, I can go almost it, definitely,
Speaker 2: but you know I need solar the entire time I'm
Speaker 2: there to help recharge the battery. It sounds like they're
Speaker 2: also they're running maybe some generators.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they definitely had some gasoline power generators up there.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't I wasn't there long enough
Speaker 1: to get an in depth analysis. Say how does this
Speaker 1: all this work? But or how would you use when?
Speaker 1: And they said, you know, most of the time, like
Speaker 1: there wasn't anything running when we were there. We were
Speaker 1: there at like, I don't know, eleven, twelve o'clock in
Speaker 1: the morning, something like that. M hm, eleven in the
Speaker 1: morning to noon somewhere in there, and there was nothing.
Speaker 1: There was no generator noise, there was nothing running. I
Speaker 1: asked them about running radios, and one of the guys
Speaker 1: told me he said, he said, we used to have
Speaker 1: a radio here and it was hard to communicate with
Speaker 1: it because every time it would get knocked out of tune,
Speaker 1: you wouldn't be able to communicate with it. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: what do you mean by that?
Speaker 2: Is that the knob and they don't know what frequency.
Speaker 1: To go back to or That's kind of what I
Speaker 1: gathered from that. But at the same time, I I
Speaker 1: he he he almost talked like it was knocking the
Speaker 1: antenna out of tune, and I'm like, I didn't get
Speaker 1: clarification what he meant by that, and I asked him
Speaker 1: to explain. He's like, well, I just he goes operator.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, okay, Well that it wouldn't be that
Speaker 1: wouldn't be that hard and you could definitely put I mean,
Speaker 1: your top of a freaking mountain with fifteen minute helicopter
Speaker 1: ride down to the valley below. They said that, and
Speaker 1: everything up there was brought in by helicopter. So they
Speaker 1: helicopter all this stuff in and helicopter all out at
Speaker 1: the end of season.
Speaker 2: But to be honest, though, they're probably using commercial bands
Speaker 2: because it can't be the hand radio bands if it's
Speaker 2: use for their operation, so it had to be commercial.
Speaker 2: So and that just this opens up even more.
Speaker 1: Now, I know. Yeah, but I'm thinking, like, you know,
Speaker 1: a ten or even a ten to fifteen foot push
Speaker 1: up poll or tripod with a VHF and ten on it.
Speaker 1: You ought to be able to reach out a long
Speaker 1: way with that because you're up so high. You're already
Speaker 1: up way high. So I wouldn't think there'd be any
Speaker 1: trouble contacting the valley down below. But I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't know, but chef would be fun. It'd be really
Speaker 1: fun to try a chap.
Speaker 2: Yes, so I answered someone about a Jordan asked about
Speaker 2: the battery c PAP. I put the link in the
Speaker 2: chat to the series of videos I did for building
Speaker 2: that system. It's a great system, I thought. I saw
Speaker 2: another good question. It's gone keep going, keep going.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, So Tongus National Force that was the
Speaker 1: one that was in Where was that one that was
Speaker 1: the one outside of Ketcha Can in Ketcha Can, I think, yeah, Tongas. Now,
Speaker 1: in fact, they said that that's the largest national forest
Speaker 1: in the United States. It basically covered the entire freaking
Speaker 1: city of Ketchi Can. So now I didn't try to act.
Speaker 1: That wasn't the one I tried to activate, but that
Speaker 1: was one of the ones that I was in. There
Speaker 1: was nowhere to really set up there and I don't
Speaker 1: know it's that's but that could be could be the
Speaker 1: one that I try next time, but it but that's
Speaker 1: outside of Ketcha Can. So that's about I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's several hours south of Anchorage and those those port towns,
Speaker 1: the Skagway, Ketcha Can, Juno, and uh another place called
Speaker 1: Icy straight Point where the four stops we made and
Speaker 1: Icy straight Point we didn't really get off the boat
Speaker 1: there was you could. There wasn't anything there really you could.
Speaker 1: You could walk off the boat to like a shuttle
Speaker 1: and they would take you into a town that's like
Speaker 1: twenty minutes away or something like that, and it was
Speaker 1: just kind of like a It was kind of like
Speaker 1: a tourist town because there's nothing in that area except
Speaker 1: for stuff they built for the cruise ships. The other
Speaker 1: the other port stops were actual cities that had stuff
Speaker 1: to do and whatnot. I think Skagway was probably my favorite,
Speaker 1: but Ketcha Cam was really Ketcha Cam was really cool
Speaker 1: as well. Skagway had a brewery that Skagway Brewing that
Speaker 1: was that was pretty good. So there was some cool
Speaker 1: stuff up there, but it was u it was It
Speaker 1: was definitely a good experience. I would love to go back.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't mind. I don't know how how long it
Speaker 1: would take to drive from Anchorage, if you rent a
Speaker 1: car and drive from Anchorage to Skagway and Ketcha can
Speaker 1: I didn't really look at that you could do that.
Speaker 1: And I know a couple of people that have talked
Speaker 1: about driving from Seattle through Canada to Alaska and just
Speaker 1: driving through Alaska, there were a lot of RVs.
Speaker 2: It sounds so much fun.
Speaker 1: I know in in Anchorage and Skagway and Juno, there
Speaker 1: were a lot of people driving r vs, and I
Speaker 1: got the I got the impression that they were rented
Speaker 1: some of them, not all of them. Some of them
Speaker 1: are rented RVs you could tell had their name on
Speaker 1: the side or something like that, or maybe they all
Speaker 1: had the same logo and the same size, the same color.
Speaker 1: I'm like, you see those three RVs that are all
Speaker 1: exactly the same, those are got to be rented. So
Speaker 1: it's one of those things where people drive with r
Speaker 1: V pulling up motor coaches, motor homes are bumper pool
Speaker 1: RV's fifth wheels, that kind of thing. Vans, van life
Speaker 1: stuff kind of yeah, that van life would be big
Speaker 1: I would think so, Yeah, I would think so. But
Speaker 1: we'll see Colin.
Speaker 2: Thanks for the two months.
Speaker 1: Good yeah calling and calling and VK, thanks for being here, buddy.
Speaker 2: Yep, yah zipline did y'all zip line?
Speaker 1: We did not zipline this time. We zipline when we
Speaker 1: were in big Ben last April. I think it was
Speaker 1: so Yeah, she said, we thought about doing the zipline
Speaker 1: icy straight, but we'd already we spent money on that
Speaker 1: helicopter ride, and then we spent money on a train
Speaker 1: ride in June No Skagway. A train ride in Skagway,
Speaker 1: like a four hour train ride that kind of looped
Speaker 1: around the town, went up the mountain and came back down.
Speaker 1: It was really cool, really cool train ride. I got
Speaker 1: some a little bit of video on that as well,
Speaker 1: so that was fun too. But yeah, sadly did not
Speaker 1: get to activate. I don't know, I wish that. I
Speaker 1: wish that I would have been able to do that,
Speaker 1: but I was kind of like I was reminded why
Speaker 1: I didn't like FT eight or I'm sorry why I
Speaker 1: didn't like QRP, And if I would have had a
Speaker 1: one hundred watt radio, I would have had better chances
Speaker 1: of activating, but I still may have not been able
Speaker 1: to because I couldn't even hear anything at that second
Speaker 1: place we stopped. So I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 1: We'll see, but I have a wow wild hog and
Speaker 1: Ham says, I have a neighbor that is in Alaska
Speaker 1: now put his fifth wheel from Texas. Sheesh, Wow, that
Speaker 1: would be a fun drive. See, I would enjoy that.
Speaker 1: I think that would be a fun drive. I think
Speaker 1: that would be a I think that would be a
Speaker 1: fun drive. So we'll see. Well, maybe one day I'll
Speaker 1: be able to do that. If you guys know Brent
Speaker 1: W seven b R. Whiskey seven Back Roads, he's in
Speaker 1: the chat sometimes. I haven't seen him time. He lives
Speaker 1: up in Wyoming, and uh he has one of those
Speaker 1: earth crawlers. Wow, he's talked. I can't remember if he's
Speaker 1: told me he's talked about doing that trip from Wyoming
Speaker 1: up to Alaska. Of course, Wyoming's a lot closer to
Speaker 1: the northern border than we are here down here in Texas.
Speaker 2: Yes, Don plus is the thing we were talking about
Speaker 2: C plus plus today being the next grist thing for
Speaker 2: amateur radio, and how we're going to use that. Bressed
Speaker 2: up and do some awesome things.
Speaker 1: Sure we are, Yeah, but but but I I would
Speaker 1: like I would. I think it would be a fun
Speaker 1: drive to do. That'd be it. You'd have to dedicate
Speaker 1: like a whole frigging month to do that, because it
Speaker 1: would take you a week to get up there, maybe
Speaker 1: eight or nine days, depending on how you timed it out.
Speaker 1: You could do it faster than that if you wanted to.
Speaker 1: But if you want to enjoy the ride and stop
Speaker 1: at certain places along the route, which is how I
Speaker 1: like to do it. I like to enjoy the ride
Speaker 1: trip or the road the road trip.
Speaker 2: Brother, that'll be a monstrous trip, man. Yeah, and it
Speaker 2: will be a lot. It will be a lot. Yeah,
Speaker 2: drive the whole way, and I would love to do it.
Speaker 2: I just need the time and the money and the
Speaker 2: know how to fix something because if it breaks when
Speaker 2: you're up there in the middle of.
Speaker 1: Nowhere, Yeah, yeah, true. Yeah, Yeah, that's that's true. Uh
Speaker 1: let's see, hold on, would it take a zillion dollars
Speaker 1: in fuel to drive that thing to Alaska? Probably? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Probably so. Uh if you are ever near the area,
Speaker 1: I don't know which where. Who's who Jordan's talking to? Okay?
Speaker 1: Rick Jason, which cruise line did you take and what's
Speaker 1: your opinion of it? So we were on celebrity cruises
Speaker 1: and it was the Celebrity Summit ship is one of
Speaker 1: their older ships, I think, and it was it was
Speaker 1: a good we we had a we we did a
Speaker 1: but prior to COVID so I think like twenty eighteen
Speaker 1: or twenty nineteen, we did a celebrity cruise in the Mediterranean.
Speaker 1: We did a Mediterranean cruise. That's the first and only
Speaker 1: time we've ever done that, and it was fun. We've
Speaker 1: taken three or four Caribbean cruises on Carnival and then
Speaker 1: we've done Celebrity in the Mediterranean, now Celebrity in Alaska.
Speaker 1: That's the ones we've been on. And all of the
Speaker 1: people who said, all of the people who said somebody
Speaker 1: was talking about how it was Royal Caribbean or Princess
Speaker 1: or one of those that said that are very very
Speaker 1: anti Ham Radio won't let you bring them on the boat.
Speaker 1: They did not look at me twice. I had my
Speaker 1: seven oh five. In fact, I have a video I'm
Speaker 1: working on about why I chose the seven oh five
Speaker 1: And I haven't seen Ray Noback in the chat yet.
Speaker 1: So I'm just gonna go ahead and say this. I
Speaker 1: did not want to take my seven oh five, not
Speaker 1: because it's not a good radio. It's an excellent radio.
Speaker 1: It is the easiest radio to use for FT eight
Speaker 1: if you want to do plug and play FT eight.
Speaker 1: In my opinion, one of the easiest radio is to
Speaker 1: use great radio. But I didn't want to take it
Speaker 1: because it's also one of the bulkiest QRP radios that's
Speaker 1: out there, and it's got the big screen on it,
Speaker 1: and I didn't want to get it damaged. It was
Speaker 1: fine the whole time, it's no problem. But twenty two
Speaker 1: hundred miles for Seattle to Anchorage. Mike says, oh, well,
Speaker 1: that's that's how long. That's how far it is from
Speaker 1: uh Dallas delle Passo. So that doesn't sound like any
Speaker 1: much to me, the Mike. But I'm kidding. It's not
Speaker 1: that far, not quite. It's only like twenty one hundred
Speaker 1: miles anyway. Uh uh So, So I got I'm working
Speaker 1: on a video about why I chose that radio, what
Speaker 1: other radios I looked at, what I did and that
Speaker 1: kind of thing, but but they did not. I had
Speaker 1: it packed in one of those max pedition water bottle bags,
Speaker 1: which I think is what Kyle keeps his ends like
Speaker 1: a It's like a round zipper bag with molly on
Speaker 1: the outside of it, and uh, and it's padded, so
Speaker 1: you just put your I put my seven o five
Speaker 1: down the bottom, had another small bag with my small
Speaker 1: coaxe and my infant halfwave in it, and my the
Speaker 1: power cable for the seven o five put in that
Speaker 1: bag in the top, and then I put my Denco
Speaker 1: battery in the front, so I had a six ampower
Speaker 1: Dnco battery with it. All of that together, the TSA
Speaker 1: looked at coming back. They wanted to look at it
Speaker 1: going out there. They didn't. They didn't look at it
Speaker 1: at all. Coming back. They wanted to look at it.
Speaker 1: I put that through the scanner on the ship and
Speaker 1: they're like, okay, see you. They didn't. They didn't care
Speaker 1: at all.
Speaker 2: I bet they just get that it is some other
Speaker 2: form of random electronics.
Speaker 1: And yeah, I think I think they put that thing
Speaker 1: about if you go to look at their website and
Speaker 1: it says it says no ham radio is allowed on
Speaker 1: the ship. I think they put that on there so
Speaker 1: that if you're caught doing something like if you set
Speaker 1: up a big contenna or a dipoler on the on
Speaker 1: the upper deck, and you're doing they say, no, you
Speaker 1: can't do that. It says on our website, you can't
Speaker 1: do that. We're gonna confiscate that and take it from
Speaker 1: you until the boats of them and you get it back.
Speaker 1: So I think that I think that's why they do that,
Speaker 1: because they did not pay one iota of attention to
Speaker 1: my radio that was packed into it and packed nicely
Speaker 1: in my bag. When we went on the ship. They
Speaker 1: were much more concerned about me bringing alcohol on. They
Speaker 1: didn't want me to bring alcohol on at all. Here's
Speaker 1: a business idea for someone in Seward Alaska. I was ready,
Speaker 1: here's a business idea because we looked at this. Okay,
Speaker 1: go onto Amazon and type in clandestine or secret or
Speaker 1: sneak on liquor bottles. Okay, and there's people selling empty
Speaker 1: shampoo bottles or shampoo look like bottles or hand cream
Speaker 1: bottles or something like that that you put liquor in
Speaker 1: and put it in your bag and you can carry
Speaker 1: it onto a cruise ship. None of but nobody, none
Speaker 1: of the shops in Seward Alaska had that. And I
Speaker 1: told the lady. I went in and I had forgotten
Speaker 1: my cigar cutter. I swear up and down. I got
Speaker 1: a cigar cutter cutter in my bag, but I took
Speaker 1: my cigars. It took some matches, and I went into
Speaker 1: a couple of liquor stores and asked for cigar cutter
Speaker 1: in several different places. The lady and Seward I went
Speaker 1: in there. I was like, hey, and they didn't really
Speaker 1: have a good I was gonna buy a small bottle
Speaker 1: of whiskey. They didn't really have much that was that
Speaker 1: looked good anyway. But I'm like, here's an idea. You
Speaker 1: should be selling secret clan steine bottles, liquor bottles disguised
Speaker 1: as shampoo bottles or whatever for the people coming into
Speaker 1: this town. Do you know, cruise ship.
Speaker 2: You can't really do that because you need all the
Speaker 2: liquor labeling correctly, but you could sell the bottles and
Speaker 2: then sell the liquor and be like, what you.
Speaker 1: Do, Well, they already sell the liquor, They already sell
Speaker 1: the liquor bottles, and just have the bottles empty, don't
Speaker 1: fill them. No, you sell the bottles in like a
Speaker 1: two or three pack like they were on Amazon.
Speaker 2: Not to be honest, less of a cruises I went to.
Speaker 2: Some people are bragging, right, this is you know the
Speaker 2: secret stash I got on their shipped through. Yeah, come on, alcoholic,
Speaker 2: you really need to do that because you're there. Spend
Speaker 2: spend somebody, spend some time enjoy having the drinks made
Speaker 2: for you. If you get that, that that all you
Speaker 2: can drink past.
Speaker 1: Know that they're gonna be those those well, all of
Speaker 1: their drinks were watered down. Everything was watered down. So
Speaker 1: those drinkages are not worth it for two reasons. Number one,
Speaker 1: they make you buy it for every day, including the
Speaker 1: days you're at port, which if you do excursions or
Speaker 1: get off the ship, you're not on the ship drinking alcohol,
Speaker 1: but you still have to pay the same amount. And
Speaker 1: number two, they make you buy it for every adult
Speaker 1: in your stateroom. Emily didn't want it. She drank like
Speaker 1: two drinks the whole week.
Speaker 2: Yea, I had every adult because they don't want you
Speaker 2: to share.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, so I can't buy it in her not
Speaker 1: buy it, or she can't buy it and I not
Speaker 1: buy it. So they make you buy it for every
Speaker 1: adult and for every day. And I'm like, that's not
Speaker 1: worth it. It's just not worth it. I'm sorry, It's
Speaker 1: just I don't want to feel like I have to
Speaker 1: drink all this alcohol to get my money's worth out
Speaker 1: of this alcohol package. I actually have been drinking, believe
Speaker 1: it or not, I've been drinking less than less alcohol
Speaker 1: this year. I had I had a maximum of one
Speaker 1: drink every day on the boat. I think one day
Speaker 1: I had two drinks and that one day I had
Speaker 1: zero drinks. So I just and I'm talking about I
Speaker 1: didn't they didn't have any good beer. They're not gonna
Speaker 1: they had pors like but I think they had Stella Artois.
Speaker 1: It's all right, what's that.
Speaker 2: I'm just locking the the Oh okay, the exposure it
Speaker 2: kept going out. Now it's getting.
Speaker 1: Annoyed, okay. So yeah, So I just I mean, and
Speaker 1: it was like I ordered the when we first got
Speaker 1: on there, I ordered a They had Old Forester eighty
Speaker 1: six proof and one hundred proof. So I got an
Speaker 1: Old Forester single shot, neat of the eighty six proof,
Speaker 1: and it was eighteen dollars. And I'm like, that's depending
Speaker 1: where you go, that may or may not be a
Speaker 1: little bit high. I mean, that's higher than you I
Speaker 1: would probably pay nine or ten dollars for that here
Speaker 1: in Texas, but I know some places in probably like
Speaker 1: California and New York that's probably about what it is there,
Speaker 1: or maybe some fancy, fancy restaurants where everything's expensive that
Speaker 1: might be in wherever part of the country that might
Speaker 1: be how much it is there. So it was it
Speaker 1: was eighteen dollars for one single neat shot not a shot,
Speaker 1: but you know, it's a neat pore of old Forester
Speaker 1: eighty six, and you know, so I'm just like, eh,
Speaker 1: And they didn't have any good beers. I didn't. I
Speaker 1: didn't drink any beer. They'll sell you a bucket of
Speaker 1: like bud light, and I'm like, yeah.
Speaker 2: That's I've seen on ships, especially Carnival guys County number thirteen,
Speaker 2: number fourteen, trying to hit that twenty. I'm like, you're ridiculous,
Speaker 2: and you're wasted and it's only noon.
Speaker 1: I'm like, exactly, yeah.
Speaker 2: Get away from me. Yeah, talking about drinking and everything.
Speaker 2: How was smoking on the ship?
Speaker 1: It was fine?
Speaker 2: It was fine. Did you have like a designated area?
Speaker 2: Was there a cigar lounge?
Speaker 1: There was not a cigar lounge. There was so I
Speaker 1: think We've been on four or five cruises, three Caribbean,
Speaker 1: Mediterranean in this one, I think five. We might have
Speaker 1: been on four Caribbean. I can't remember. Out of all
Speaker 1: those ships, four or five ships I've been on in
Speaker 1: my life, one of them had an actual cigar lounge.
Speaker 1: And from what Emily read, most of them aren't doing
Speaker 1: that anymore because pulled out. They feel like it's Carnival
Speaker 1: several years back had done a boat. I got a
Speaker 1: text from somebody had done a boat. It wouldn't him
Speaker 1: come on Carnival years back had done a boat.
Speaker 2: Oh, hold on, Carnival, I think you're going the Carnival
Speaker 2: did a cruise ship that was no smoking own, no
Speaker 2: smoking in the entire cruise ship, and that ship itself
Speaker 2: did not sell well enough and they reverted it after
Speaker 2: like three sailings.
Speaker 1: Correct. Yeah, that's what I was gonna say.
Speaker 2: Yeah, hold on, Uh, I was just filling time here. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and that that's very interesting, especially the smoking in the
Speaker 2: the the casinos is very allowable, even though they don't
Speaker 2: allow cigars or pipe backo, which I don't understand because
Speaker 2: it smells so much better.
Speaker 1: I know cigars too, so so there was uh yeah,
Speaker 1: I lost my train of thought. Sorry. So, yeah, so
Speaker 1: we we were and I remember this because I was laughing.
Speaker 1: We were standing in line at so on the cruise,
Speaker 1: they have a they have all these things where they
Speaker 1: tried to nickel and din nickel and dimed to death,
Speaker 1: but they have they have a concierge's table on the
Speaker 1: cruise where you can buy future future cruise options. Oh,
Speaker 1: get one hundred dollars in credit, or get this discount
Speaker 1: off of a future cruise. So I remember being on
Speaker 1: that ship, one of the cardinalships, I don't remember which
Speaker 1: one it was, and the lady in front of us
Speaker 1: was talking to them, to them about a no smoking
Speaker 1: ship and Carnival, and the lady at the car behind
Speaker 1: the counter, the Carnival lady, she was like, yeah, we
Speaker 1: tried that. We're closing it down because we just couldn't
Speaker 1: sell any tickets. And the lady at the and the
Speaker 1: customer lady, she was like, what, you can't sell any
Speaker 1: tickets on a non smoking ship. She was totally floored
Speaker 1: that people actually liked to smoke. And I'm like, this
Speaker 1: is what's wrong with America, right, no smoking, the making
Speaker 1: you wear seat belts and banning smoking and restaurants is
Speaker 1: where everything started to go downhill. That's my opinion. Will
Speaker 1: we'll get off on that topic on another day, but
Speaker 1: that's my opinion.
Speaker 2: But they're not smoking, but it's.
Speaker 1: It's you know, so uh and she couldn't belave. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So they tried that and it failed. But I guess
Speaker 1: the cigar room just basically took up too much room
Speaker 1: on the ship room.
Speaker 2: And you know, you buy a cigar and you might
Speaker 2: have a drink, and you're gonna be there to two
Speaker 2: to three hours. It's not a large money making thing
Speaker 2: for that floor. They could probably put a storefront in
Speaker 2: there and sell much more merchandise.
Speaker 1: Well that, and they they could put a they could
Speaker 1: put like a and they had like a piano in
Speaker 1: the cigar lounge, so there was a guy in there
Speaker 1: playing piano some times. And they had a bar, of course,
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, you have a bar, but the
Speaker 1: but most of the ships I'm on where they smoke cigars,
Speaker 1: they have a lounge. They have like a table and
Speaker 1: chairs in a specific area outside, usually on one of
Speaker 1: the top decks, and that's where it was. It was
Speaker 1: called the masked bar on this on this show. So
Speaker 1: we'd go outside and they had they had. You could
Speaker 1: tell because it was the only tables on the well
Speaker 1: this place in one other place were the only tables
Speaker 1: on the whole ship that actually had ash trays, so
Speaker 1: you could tell what it was. And I walked up
Speaker 1: to the guy and I'm like, hey, dude, do you
Speaker 1: had I never found my cigar cutter. And I walked
Speaker 1: up to the guy at the massbar the first day
Speaker 1: I was there, I was like, do you have a
Speaker 1: cigar cutter? He's like sure, So he let me borrow
Speaker 1: a cigar cut and every day I went back to him,
Speaker 1: he would he would let me borrow a cigar cutter.
Speaker 1: I cut my cigar the way I wanted, and I'd
Speaker 1: buy a drink from him, maybe a coke, maybe, maybe
Speaker 1: buy a soda from him or a Sometimes i'd buy
Speaker 1: an alcoholic drink, but usually it was just like so it.
Speaker 2: Was an actual bar area, so it wasn't just like
Speaker 2: two or three chairs in a corner, because that's what
Speaker 2: war was. Royal was like, here's your smoking section, and
Speaker 2: it was like the smallest table possible with two chairs,
Speaker 2: and people will just come up there with their cigarette
Speaker 2: and just yeah and just like down it and leave
Speaker 2: and no one was hanging around.
Speaker 1: How, No, that's not that's not how this one was.
Speaker 1: This one had decent sized tabe four or five tables
Speaker 1: at one large table and then two or three little tables,
Speaker 1: comfortable chairs around it, a seat of like a like
Speaker 1: a booth type bench, curved bench on one side, and
Speaker 1: it was next to the bar on the upper deck
Speaker 1: right above the pool, so you got to see the
Speaker 1: pool and you got to see outside over the side
Speaker 1: of the ship up here. It was a very nice area.
Speaker 1: This one, This one was was great. The thing, uh,
Speaker 1: the thing that Charlie, are you going are you coming to?
Speaker 1: Uh you're coming to the Hamfest but not to Yellowstone,
Speaker 1: I think, is that correct, Charlie. So this was so
Speaker 1: the one that the last one we were on I
Speaker 1: think it was the Benedrainian Cruise. Now see, I I
Speaker 1: saw one other guy on this ship smoking cigar, and
Speaker 1: I didn't see him till like the second last day.
Speaker 1: I would go up. I'd smoke a cigar. Not every day,
Speaker 1: I smoked a cigar once a day for like four
Speaker 1: days on this ship. And uh, and the guy that
Speaker 1: was the guy I saw like on the last day
Speaker 1: second or last day. I told him. I was like, dude,
Speaker 1: you're the only one. He's like, Oh, there's a guy
Speaker 1: that goes downstairs in the other spot that I've seen
Speaker 1: him times, but there's not many people. The last boat
Speaker 1: I was on had a smoking section was kind of
Speaker 1: off to the side somewhere kind of like what you
Speaker 1: were talking about, but the tables weren't that small, and
Speaker 1: he was there. There was two or three guys there,
Speaker 1: like every time I went over there, and I got
Speaker 1: in the smoking cigars, not just cigarette people with smoking cigars,
Speaker 1: and I talked to them. We kind of kind of
Speaker 1: hit it off and just kind of talked about stuff.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I didn't really find anyone like this on
Speaker 1: like that on distrip.
Speaker 2: On a carnival, I felt their smoking lounge area had
Speaker 2: like a couple of couches and nice tables in the
Speaker 2: middle and individual chairs on the outside, and it was
Speaker 2: a social gathering area and I really just kind of
Speaker 2: hung out there and there were a number of people
Speaker 2: smoking cigars throughout the day and got to know them
Speaker 2: and a couple of I got this from Steve, He's like,
Speaker 2: bring extra cigars because you know someone's going to say
Speaker 2: I don't have a cigar, and you give them a cigar.
Speaker 2: They have the grink package and they'll give you a
Speaker 2: drink or two. And that's what I did. Man, that's
Speaker 2: a great I think about the box and guys like,
Speaker 2: oh man, I forgot my cigars. I didn't feel like
Speaker 2: buy them out of the crappy store. I was like,
Speaker 2: I got it, and I gave it to him. He's like, cool,
Speaker 2: what are you drinking? I said, straight, whiskey. He's like
Speaker 2: all right, And every time I saw him whiskey and
Speaker 2: I gave him a cigar.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, that's a great idea. I should have
Speaker 1: thought about that. I totally should have thought about that.
Speaker 1: But yeah, they have a and they have a liquor store,
Speaker 1: a duty free liquor store on the boat. And they
Speaker 1: had the big bottle of Buffalo Trace, the one leader bottle,
Speaker 1: Like usually you and I get the seven fifty, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: they had the one leader bottle of Buffalo Trace for
Speaker 1: thirty six dollars. That's cheap, but you buy it and
Speaker 1: they hold it for you until you get off the boat, yeah,
Speaker 1: and let you take it home. And I'm like, I'm
Speaker 1: not doing that because I'd have to check a freaking bag.
Speaker 1: We don't check bags when we travel, and they will
Speaker 1: because they won't let you take a bottle of liquor
Speaker 1: liquid thing on a plane unless it's in a checked bag.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, I'm not But that guy he sold
Speaker 1: but that liquor store on the boat sold cigars and
Speaker 1: he had a six pack, yeah, six pack of different
Speaker 1: girk girkh sampler six pack for forty five dollars. So
Speaker 1: I'm like, that's like just a little bit over seven
Speaker 1: dollars a stick. That's not bad. That's not bad. Okay.
Speaker 1: I didn't buy it, but I was like, okay, that's cool.
Speaker 1: And they would let you take the cigars, so you
Speaker 1: can buy cigars on the boat. Excuse me? How old
Speaker 1: are they?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: How Yeah, I don't know. I mean that's the that's
Speaker 1: the chance you take by buying cigars at any liquor store.
Speaker 1: You don't know how how often they rotate out their stock,
Speaker 1: how well they maintain their humidor that kind of thing.
Speaker 2: But that tick says taking never travels without his hammador.
Speaker 1: Well, that's true, that's true.
Speaker 2: That is true always with me. The troubles that come
Speaker 2: with that, though, is when you put it in your
Speaker 2: check to luggage and you get your bag after the
Speaker 2: you gotta have something like a butter knife to wedge
Speaker 2: it in there, and probably lit open because all the
Speaker 2: air escapes and it's under pressure.
Speaker 1: I put I took five or six cigars, and I
Speaker 1: bought three new cigars in Anchorage when we when we
Speaker 1: found that smoke shop there. I put them all in
Speaker 1: a brand new thick knit like an eight mil ziploc
Speaker 1: bag with one of those one of those humid humids, yeah,
Speaker 1: the bubble pack. And that's all I took. I didn't
Speaker 1: even take a humidor. I just put that in my
Speaker 1: clothes bag and and and forgot about it. It's like that's
Speaker 1: all there was, all right,