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We got Brady Papinga on the line to break down

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this BYU Texas Tech match up, this game. This uh uh,

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this steam rolling of the Kuges from over the weekend.

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Be pop how you living?

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Speaker 3: Always always a challenge, but always worth it. So we're

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all right there, man, you body and.

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Speaker 2: Man, I'm okay. Look, I kind of felt deep down

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in my bosom that this is going to be a

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loss of stuff to win on the road, versus that

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I think they were a top five team in the

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country and they were healthy. Uh for the most part.

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I know barn Morton had a little bit of a

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stress reaction, but he was still slinging it just wasn't

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as mobile as he was maybe prior to the injury.

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But all things considered, they were pretty gosh dang healthy.

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They were at home. They have an elite defense, that's

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a top five football team, and BYU they got dumped.

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They really didn't win in a whole lot of ways.

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I was. I was overall pressed with the defense. I

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thought they had a good showing. Special teams struggled, as

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did the offense. What happened in this game from your purview, well.

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Speaker 3: So you have two teams that are equally as talented,

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Cause you go look at the film, I can tell

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you this. Our defensive line did not get moved, pope.

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We had blowback resetting the line of scrimmage consistently. They

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couldn't run the ball inside. As a matter of fact,

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their big runs were on the edges, which has been

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a weakness of ours as of late. We completely diced

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up their pass protection. I mean we've sacked the quarterback

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how many times in the first couple of quarters, you know,

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I mean they just had no answer for us. You

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know up front. Now, our defensive backs, man, they generally

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played really well, but they were our Achilles Hill in

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this game. You know EJ started out with what he

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thought I think was a guaranteed pick, and to me,

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that was the play of the game, quite frankly, Like

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if he picks that ball off, he's in the flat,

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you guys, which plan talking right his third and long

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we're dropping at a drop eight, yeah, deep cover three

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and he he's drop it back into that like kind

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of like seek corner position, and the quarterback just kind

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of throws it up and hej just kind of casually

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fading away like ooh, I'm gonna look sweet. And then

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you get the Texas tech player who just plucks the

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ball there and then he runs another I think thirty

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yards and then ultimately sets up a touchdown, which is

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the fate of the end zone. The number five on

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tree Alexander, and again number five is good. They got guys,

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you know, then we got guys too. I think that's

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what I think a lot of BYU fans are not

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used to yet. Look, you don't always lose because there's

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a talent discrepancy. I think for BYU's history, we've always

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had a talent discrepancy. Been until now we don't have

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a talent description. I hope everybody understands that we got

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just as good as players as they do. It can

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down the execution. That's one example. The obvious ones that

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everybody knows about are the muff punts, the muff punt,

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the miss punt, the missfield goal, the fumble, the two

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interceptions or is it two fumbles, whatever, it was one interception,

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two fumbles. You know everybody's talking about that, when in

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reality it's those plays like EJ not making that interception,

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or even Trey Alexander later in the game had a

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baggle right through his hands. Those are game changing, momentum

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changing plays. And then from an offensive perspective, I personally

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felt that we over respected their head dressers. I felt

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that we kept a lot of max protection batch chipping

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tight ends in way too much. And we'll see if

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you know, that changes if we get a chance to

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play them again. And then on top of it, we're

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just not executing the small things. You know, bear misses

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that read auction play. I think everybody nasked the TV

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saw that third and three, he needs to pull back.

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He runs private five six yards, that drive keeps going.

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But guess what happens after that?

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Speaker 4: We go out.

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Speaker 3: We missed a fifty one yard field goal. So all

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those things when you played good teams. Now when it

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balances out, meaning you got tit for tap the same

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caliber of playmakers, which we do with Texas Tech. Now

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and I said this last week, it comes to it

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becomes an execution game. Who executes the cleanus And as

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I mean, you could very clearly see from how we

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played versus how Texas Tech played, they absolutely executed the cleaners.

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And that's why they want. Now he rewind back a

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couple of weeks. They go to Arizona State and guess

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what they do pretty much the same thing what we

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just did to them. They didn't execute. They had some

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rough outings, and they get beat, you know, on the

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road at a tough place to play down in Tempe, Arizona.

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So this isn't abnormal, This isn't some It should not

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be a shock to the system. I think you said

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it well, Ben, like this is a tough place to play.

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You don't go into games expecting to lose, but you

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for surely go into games being realistic about who your

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opponent is and what the situation is. And absolutely that

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was going into a lion's den into one of the

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most adverse tough places. I think any team in the

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country could walk into. I don't care if you're Ohio State,

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I don't care if you're Indiana. That is a tough

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place to go into, just like it will be on Lavell's.

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place to come into. And that's just what it is,

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and that's what you have, and that's what happens when

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you play high level football. You're gonna face teams that

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are just as talented. And then it comes down to

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an execution game. And we've done a good job over

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the year, Like Utah, I thought it was a great

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example of that. It was an execution game. We had guys,

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they had guys, and we executed better than they did

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and we won the game. Arizona I thought was the

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same way from the start to the finish. And in

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defensive Aaron Roddick, by the way, with his his you know,

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were playing it that way too. They were like, hey,

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we're going in an adverse situation. We need to keep

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this thing close. We don't want to put bear overly

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exposed to these edge rushers and he's, you know, all

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of a sudden, the crowd's going crazy. These head dressers

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are popping off the snap of the ball because we're

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going on the silent count. He's you know, Bears getting

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blindside fumbles, and then the crowd even starts to go

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with more crazy Bears. Confidence starts, you get what I'm saying.

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you are going to be over conservative because what you

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want to have the game you want to go if

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there was help from special teams, which by the way,

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that was the killer of our whole team of special teams.

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You know, if the special teams are rolling, all of

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a sudden, everything else gets set up better filled position,

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everybody's feeling a little bit more energetic, more confident. And

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then you have this game where it's you're going back

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and forth, back and forth, and then you hope to

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make that last play to win the game. And that's

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or I do believe, you know, the coaching staff was.

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They were thinking that's what they were hoping for. That's

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why we weren't just completely letting you know, Bear go crazy.

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playing to our defense, which defense, like you said, played

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phenomenally except for a few big plays. But outside of that,

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if you have your special team struggling like you do,

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it's just gonna trickle down to your offense and all

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of a sudden, you're going to be, you know, a

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game like this where you just you just are always

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behind the eight ball. And you have to give Texas

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Tech a lot of credit too, because of how good

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they were with their pressure and how you knew you

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had to play well. That affects your execution sometimes and

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so you got to get Texas Tech all the credit.

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got execute better in all three phases. Starts with special teams,

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that's been the foundation, and then have a trickle out

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from there. And then obviously, I know, if we get

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a chance to play these guys a game, we're going

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to the guys again. You're going to see a completely

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different game, I believe, in terms of how aggressive we

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are and no more to say. We're going to play

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this close and then hopefully score one more play than

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they do. It's going to be you know, empty the

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kitchen scene can go for the goals, so the good

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thing is, ladies and gentlemen, I want to just make

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sure we all understand this too. This is what it

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should be. You should be able to go in, week

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in and week out. If you have a little hang

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up like we did this week, be able to then improve,

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fix what you failed to do, learn from it, and

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get better as a team, and still be in position

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to have your goals. And guess what the system right

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now has, it's where That's exactly where we're at. I'm

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gonna tell you this quite frankly, it's hard to beat

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a team twice in a year. I've experienced it personally.

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I'll tell you that. I know this is a long

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ranted answer, but it's going to give you a lot

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of good information. When I was in the NFL two

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thousand and nine, we played the Arizona Card was the

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very last game of the season, and then we played

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in the first week in the wild card. Okay, we

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destroyed them. And the last week of the season in

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Tempe and a whole week leading up to the very

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next week where we're going to play them again, we're

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studying that film religiously. Oh, this is what it's going

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to be. This is what we got to do blah

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blah blah. We go out and it was like they

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were a completely different team. They had made adjustments, they

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had dumb some little tweaks, they had shown some stuff

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in the map the playoff game that they didn't have

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in the last game that we got. You know, it

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ended up going overtime, but we got beat And so

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the point is is, like I would prefer, in all

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seriousness to go to the championship game if we end

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up facing Texas Tech again and having that feeling of, hey,

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we have to now learn from our previous and capture

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with them, versus man, we beat them, we just got

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to do the same thing again, because I do believe

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that is false gold, our fools gold.

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Speaker 2: So Brady, I've been looking at the numbers, and just

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from a scoring margin standpoint, I'm looking at silver linings here,

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BLI faced Texas Tech at their home and they lost

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by twenty two. It was a pretty dominant twenty two,

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though it seemed like they were in the driver's seat

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most of the game. It was slow, it was monotonous,

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the chasm. Right. I look at Kansas State, they lost

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by twenty three. Utah lost by twenty four. Houston lost

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by twenty four, Kansas lost by twenty five, and so like,

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it's obviously that Texas Tech is maybe in a league

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of its own, and then who's the second best team

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in the Big twelve? That's what I think the from

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an identity standpoint, fans BYU fans are struggling with that.

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They're wondering, Hey, are we truly the second best team

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in the Big twelve? How do you see it?

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Speaker 3: Well, that's why you get to play it out. And

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that's why I love about the system, and that's what

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is beautiful about actually putting it on the field because

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a lot of things that happen right now in terms

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of how we're evaluating talent is coming from the past

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ranking systems, whether it's the A people, whether it's you know,

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the BCS system or the latest you know, rendition of

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the playoff even before this one, to where you're you're

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having a committee, they get together, they evaluate, you know,

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what's the strongest win? Was a win is a win

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and a loss of a loss. And guess what you

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don't you don't get two losses for every win if

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you score over twenty points. Texas Tech is as vulnerable.

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Look I don't like I think when I one thing

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that I felt at the beginning of the game, and

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absolutely Texas Tech controlled the game. But the one thing

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I felt was is upfront, we can control these guys.

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Now they're defensive front, interiorly wise, man, they controlled us.

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I mean they collapsed the pocket. I don't know how

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many times. But there's answers for that, you know, And

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so I look at it more as this is top

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nuts football to even the match teams. I think we're

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just as good as Texas Tech. I like to be

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able to go prove that. But we have to go

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out on the field and we have to do what

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we've been doing all year, which is executed. So my

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answer directly to you is if we execute and we

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continue to play at the same energy, tenacity, competitive spirit

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that they played against Texas Tech. And I mean because

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I just I really wish we could do a coach

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a show and I could show you plays of our

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defensive front just eviscerating, chopping up this supposed unbelievable offense.

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I mean just three cent in the line of scrimmage,

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blowing dues off the ball, throwing dues to the ground,

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and just nowhere to go also plays where you got

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glass or diving on the you know, just selling out

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dive and throwing his body around Sam with Jack. I mean,

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these guys were healthy as they've been all year, and

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they played as good as we've expected them to play,

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and so and even our offensive line, they were out

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there blocking their tails off and moving these big defensive

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tackles that Texas Tech has and they were doing a

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good job that. Unfortunately, I think LJ is still a

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little bit deemed up. I think that's very evident. He's

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not very comfortable really hitting it up in there, hitting

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the whole hard. And I think that's a big thing

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that we're we missed in that game, is that interior

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zone running slash, pin and pull play runner to really

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pounded defense. Because the difference is literally in two or

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three yards. People don't realize that a third and four

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is a very especially with our propensivey. Going for our

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fourth to down is very different than third and six,

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very different play call third and six plus generally it's conservative,

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let's just get out of this, pump the ball move.

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If it's third or four or third and six, you know,

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we may be trying to get more a few more

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yards to go short down, the short fourth down. If

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it's third to four, the whole playlig is open. And

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if you've got a guy that can jam it up

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in there and at least fall foward for three guys.

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So what we're playing again for the next down, I'm

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probably getting that down and all of a sudden, now

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we get into rhythm. We didn't have that inside running presence,

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so we're we were constantly in third and six plus,

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which changes our whole mentality offensively. And so when you

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look at these details, it's like, I'm excited, Like I

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believe we can go into a game, and we just

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got to get to the championship game, but we can

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go in there and we can beat these guys. Now,

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are we going to have to play like the best

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game of the year?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Is that just tech awesome? Yeah? Top ten, you know,

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top five or top five team, like you said, top

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four team probably? Yeah. But does that mean they're unbeatable? No?

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And I do think we're right there with them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was. I was just I'm taking into account

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all these all these you know, the information I had

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before me, and I'm wondering, Okay, what progress can be

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made in the next three weeks and you got to

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take one game at a time. TCU right Cincinnati on

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the road and then UCF at home. But if BYU

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wins out, they'll face the same team. And what do

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you do game plan wise? Differently? You've mentioned a few

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of those. Do you think a rod changes his game

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plan going into the if we get him again in

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the championship championship game, do you think he changes the

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game plan? And so which way? In what ways?

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, the biggest thing in this goes you know,

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I know we're talking for weeks fromn hour or so,

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but this is very pertinent to this week and the

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progress of our team. Is we regardless of what roder does,

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because Proderick is gonna, I mean, he knows what he's doing.

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The guy's master. I'm not even questioning him. And I

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completely understand why he was very concerned with those addresses.

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They are game records. They can turn the game to

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a disaster real quick and real quick, and it already

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turned that way. But it wasn't the fence's faults, more specitives.

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So I get that. But what we have to do

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first foremost is we have to get back to having

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a very physical, interior run threat. Somebody that can just

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jam it. Like I said, somebody can jam it up

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in there, fall forward for two three yards at the

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very least, you know, pressing Rex. But it's the soul.

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I mean, he's he tries to run hard, but due

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ways one hundred ninety five pounds. Okay. He's a good

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edge guy, you know, good screens gadget guy of the backfield.

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I really like him on the edges. He does a

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nice job. He's tough, he's physical. Uh, he's you know,

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he tries hard for his size, but he just does

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not have the power to just hit the hole and

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just fall forward for a few yards and keep us

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on time with the change.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 3: So we got to find somebody there, you know, whether

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it's LJ or whether we start certainly, I mean, I

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don't know. Maybe he's look at it to my back.

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He worked out without Jeer.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 3: Maybe we look at Alfred number thirty. We're like, hey, bro,

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can he run his inside downe play? I'm just I'm

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being facesis I'm joking. We got I'm telling you we

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got some guys at the running back position. It's just

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going to be interesting to see if they see it.

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You know, talk about Roderick and the offense staff the

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same way. Who's there and you know who's available to

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give them that threat, because I do believe that they

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can get that threat that gets us back to our

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identity as LJ is coming back, because one thing that's

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going to be very different. As long as LJ has

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no setbacks, he's gonna be feeling really good in about

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four weeks versus right now. And again I don't know

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what his injury is, but I do know that if

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he's playing, it's one of those injuries that you can

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kind of just nurse it through your playing time and

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hopefully as there's as long as there's no setbacks, it

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gets better and better. It's kind of like what Jack

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was going through. And Jack looked like his old self

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this week. The same with Alaska, and I'm anticipating we'll

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get something like that of LJ. And that is the

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difference maker, ladies and gentlemen. I mean, when LJA that

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first snap, he popped through that hole like a freaking

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you know, like you shot out of a cannon. That's

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what we need. And so that's that's pretty much it.

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I mean, it's not all this isn't hard. Now, our

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receiver's got to catch the ball, you know what I'm saying,

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Like o JoJo's dropping that pass. You know, even Chase

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on that that long you know, go through when he's

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diving the balls in his hands. You know, those those

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are the catches that we got to make. And when

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we do and we make those extra plays, I mean,

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that's where offense gets rolling. I mean, and you know

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and Bear, that's gonna help him get confidence and get

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into his rhythm. And because the dude could throw the ball,

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you know. So it's there's there's not wholesale changes that

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need to be made. It is small little adjustments, smaller refinements.

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And like I said, having that middle middle run threat

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there that could pound the ball, get us two three

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extra yards just falling forward is going to make a

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tremendously huge difference.

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Speaker 2: Defensively, Billy managed to hold the Red Raiders offense well

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blow their season scoring average, and as I mentioned, the

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margin of victory was I guess the smallest outside of

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the on the road lost to ASU. But you know what,

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what did you like specifically from a personnel standpoint on

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the defense side of the ball, that we can highlight.

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Speaker 3: Well, I just loved our defensive front, I really do.

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If you could put if people see what we did

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to their offensive line, that would help you feel very

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optimistic about us playing against playing against them again and

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doing really well. They could not handle us, guys, They

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could not handle us. The plays that they got on

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us were bounce plays to number twenty, which is he's

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a home run hitting player. Man, that guy gets out

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in space. He's ran big runs against every team that

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we've you know that they faced all year long, and

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we weren't any different. But outside of that, and then

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there was another run by number eight where we were

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basically had an inside blitz and the edge guy, instead

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of boxing it, meaning turning it back into the blitzers,

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he spilt it like we normally do where and it

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turned out to be I think a twenty thirty yard

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game because there's nobody out there spilled to which spilling

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means you just you just influenced the runner to keep

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going east and west outside, which you know that's an

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execution thing that's not getting beat. But I mean, if

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you'd seen how we handled all the polos and everything,

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it was an absolute mess for their offensive line. So

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when you look at our defensive front, how we handled

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their offensive line. That is what I'm most excited about

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because we we'll get that same performance again because we

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got guys. Tell you we got guys. Then you got

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to ask yourselfl Kate, can our secondary step up and

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make the plays when they're presented to them? Sure number

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five is gonna get his you know, he's a good

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player's a player, and they got some other guys. But

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you ball hitching the hands of the corner. You got

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to you gotta pull that in, you know. And if

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you're hej you don't fade away from interceptions, you puck

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them out of there, You go take them and then

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you run them back. And when if you just make

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those small adjustments and then our special team shows up,

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now we get into the kind of game that I

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believe Roderick was expecting, which is keep it close, let's

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make one more play. Although, like I said, I think

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when we play them again, it's not gonna We're not

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going to be as you know, conservatives, you know, just

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just kind of filling it out. But the point is

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is that's what gets me excited is our front. Every

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single week, our front has shown up and controlled the

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line of scrimmage. Now we just got to get everything

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else around it rolling just at that same level, and

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we're going to be in great shape.

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Speaker 2: Why do you think Bear Bockmeier struggled to run the

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football versus Texas Tech this game? This was maybe his

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least effective performance, one of his least effective performance in

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running the ball.

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Speaker 3: Well, it starts with the fact that they're really good.

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Let's remember that on our quarterback draws, these big interior

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defensive tackles were just stuffing up the middle. I mean,

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we're you know, he's going back to do a quarterback

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draw and as he's like doing his fake drop back here,

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he has middle pressure and then he's got to like

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kind of adjust around that, and all of a sudden,

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there's another guy right there, and then he's just around that,

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and all of a sudden, by that time, the defense

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has already realized this is a draw and they're reacting.

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The backers are coming up and it's there's no space.

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So there's there's ways to handle that. There's a lot

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of ways to handle those big guys doing that to

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where they just completely destroy a lot of your quarterback

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running plays. The big one though, that I felt could

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have got him into more rhythm. Was that Reid options

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the first part of game on third and three. I

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mean that had a lot of space to go. I mean,

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I bet you get, like I said, games ten yards

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and like anything, when you get into that rhythm and

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get in that flow. And even as a defense, when

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you get gas like that from a read option, you

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tend to respect that a little bit more. You tend

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to have that be in the back of your head.

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That slightly opens up other things, you know, the read

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option to even the pass all of a sudden becomes

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a little bit more dangerous because now you're you're overplaying

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maybe or just giving a little bit more tent to

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the second respect to the quarterback pulling it. And then

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that that can maybe open up a little window or

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a little bigger window for your receivers. So it's a

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combination of things. But the first thing is text check

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is really good, and we didn't handle their inside pressure

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as well as we could have.

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Speaker 2: Prady Bepinga here on ESPN the Fan and Little College

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Football segment and it's brought to you by Dental pros

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do we know about TCU? What are your biggest concerns

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heading into TCU week?

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Speaker 3: Well, so, TCU, you know I did a study on

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him last night. They got a heck of a thrower.

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Quarterback is a heck of a thrower. You can throw

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the ball over the field. We're gonna see simple. You know,

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the very familiar air raid offense that Buyu has made

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famous and then has gone and all these different iterations.

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And now you have with Sunny Dykes and his crew,

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which they Sunny Dikes likes to run a spread, air raid,

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power running offense. So he has a real physical runner.

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He plays very downhill, which plays into our strengths. You know,

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he's not a guy like number twenty where he's gonna

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bounce it and you know, get you for you know,

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fifty yard game. This guy wants to run between the

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tackles and just wear you out. And then they compliment

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that with their quick passing game. And you know, and

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their quarterback who could throw the ball. Quarterbacks not overly mobile.

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He's an average moving movement guy, but his arm more

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that makes up for because he's accurate. He throws the

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ball on time. He's got a quick release. Their offensive

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line is a big and physical you know, they don't

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move the best. They got big, kind of bigger, heavy feet.

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Kind of reminds me of Arizona's offensive line, so you

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can it's kind of like Arizona's offense a little bit.

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But but I don't think they have as much speed.

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I think they'll build more on power. And then they

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got a big wide receiver, number one man, and he's

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he's a big game breaker. He's not an overly explosive

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guy like number five, but he's physical, possession kind of

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guy that can like pretty much you just throw the

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ball up in a radius that's reasonable around him and

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he's usually comes up with it. So they got a

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good offense. You know, we got to be ready to roll,

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you know, got to bring our lunch pail again and

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be ready to play a really physical, tough game against

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these guys and shut that shut that run down and

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keep them in predictable passing situations where I don't think

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their offensive line can block us. If we can get

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into predictable passing situations with all of our blitz configurations,

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with our speed and our rush ability and our coverage ability,

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I think that'll work. To our advantage. But we've got

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to put them in predictable passing situations and it's gonna

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be tough because that quarterback can throw the ball, he

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throws it on time and in addition to having a

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power running game.

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Speaker 2: Brady for being good ladies and gentlemen, great stuff. He's

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Speaker 2: Love it. Brady, you always appreciate our time together. We'll

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catch up with you gain soon. Thanks for hopping on

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for a college football segment.

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Speaker 3: Always a pleasure, Doe Koogs.

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Scientist is a three DQB. We got John Beck on

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the line. John, how's your weekend?

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Speaker 4: That was a good one man.

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Speaker 5: Uh, You've got a playoff win for the high school team,

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so that was fun. You know, my son's having the

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opportunity to be the quarterback right now, so that's exciting

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as a parent who's been you know, coaching him up

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all the way through. So that's been fun. Other than that,

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a lot of just you know, following college football, watching

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the Coogs, watching some NFL games.

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Speaker 2: So are you o seeing for the high school team

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as well?

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Speaker 4: No, I just help out with the game plan.

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Speaker 5: I'm a quarterback coach, but the coordinator that's there.

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Speaker 4: He and I have worked together a for a few

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years here at San Clementy, so it's been good.

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Speaker 5: We kind of have a very good relationship helping out

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suggesting plays. Dennis is involved in that as well, Pitta.

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Dennis helps out as the tight end coach, so we

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have a very similar role in terms of being a

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position coach, but helping out a lot with the game

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planning and in practice structuring some of the plays that

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we kind of input.

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Speaker 4: So it's been good. It's been a fun little run

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so far for our team this year.

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Speaker 5: We're going to be in the second round of playoffs

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semi finals this weekend, so it'll be a big game

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for us.

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Speaker 2: Has there ever been a moment this year? A game

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this year? What's your game plan? Offensive game plan that

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you had scouted that you had pre planned for the

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thought it would work. It didn't work so well against

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a pretty gosh day good defense.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I feel like that always happens in football.

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I feel like that's why coaches that have a lot

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of experience, that have experienced those situations before, they can

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come to find answers.

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Speaker 4: You know, That's where it helps.

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Speaker 5: I think a lot of the times banking too much

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on well, here's what I've learned as a player, also

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not just a coach, because I had experience as a

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player where you might see what you feel is going

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to be so good on tape, but you always have

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to account for what they are going to plan for

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you because you're studying tape watching what they do against

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other opponents, But what are they going to do against you?

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What wrinkles are they going to throw at your team?

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When they watch your team on tape? What do they say,

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here is how we're going to prepare for that?

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Speaker 4: And I feel like that.

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Speaker 5: Is where sometimes you have to be so careful of

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trying to build a perfect plan.

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Speaker 4: For what you see on tape.

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Speaker 5: Because you just don't know what wrinkles they're going to

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do and what plann they're going to have, So you

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have to have a game plan that can expand you

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have to have a game plan that is wider than

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just what you see on tape.

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Speaker 4: But also that's why I love the whole John Wooden.

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Speaker 5: We're going to focus on us, and we're going to

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make sure that what we do we do well, and

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then they have to stop what we do well. It's

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not always a just about what well, let's do what

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the defense is going to allow us to do that?

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Speaker 4: Right there?

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Speaker 5: Just sound like Norm Chow from greatest moments and Billie

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football history. But I did it without a Hawaiian accent though.

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But you know, you also just have to go into

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it and say, okay, but what do we do really well?

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What offensively can we do better than their defense? And

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so that's why game planning is such a tricky thing,

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especially against really good football teams. The hardest teams to

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game plan for are the teams that are very talented defensively,

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because it still comes down to who you have versus

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who they have. You can have a great scheme and

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an idea, and you can have all of these things

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that you believe will work, but the game comes down

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to man versus man. These players against those players, and

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it is really tough when you play against really good

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football teams.

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Speaker 2: Let's transition then, BYU's offensive game plan didn't work so

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well against Texas techs defense that is an elite defense,

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a defense that doesn't give give up a lot of yards,

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doesn't give up a lot of points. They're always taking

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the ball away. What happened in this game offense Billies

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offense versus Texas Tech defense, Well.

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Speaker 5: I think you nailed it in terms of just how

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good Texas Tech is that's the best football team defensively

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that we played this year or that by Us played

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this year. I think it showed in the amount of

711
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,240
times that Bear was being pressured in the way that

712
00:31:44,319 --> 00:31:48,079
they kept the run game to a minimum, both LJ

713
00:31:48,319 --> 00:31:52,839
and Bear. I'm sure that was Buyu's lowest rushing output

714
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:56,880
of the season. The number of times that balls were

715
00:31:56,920 --> 00:32:00,960
being thrown to a receiver and immediately is getting either

716
00:32:01,079 --> 00:32:04,839
hit has somebody on him. It was just a really

717
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:08,160
good did like team that that BUYU was playing against.

718
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,200
I think that the scheme and game plan that they

719
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:14,079
had worked well against what BUYU.

720
00:32:13,839 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 4: Was trying to do.

721
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 5: And I don't think that's a knock to BYU.

722
00:32:16,319 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 4: You look at some of the stuff that BOU.

723
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 5: Did in the game, it's stuff that BUYU has had

724
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,519
success with. You look at some of the scheme things

725
00:32:23,519 --> 00:32:25,680
that they did that were different from what we've seen

726
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,759
this year. They absolutely went into this game with some

727
00:32:28,799 --> 00:32:31,960
wrinkles that I'm sure was stuff that they felt like

728
00:32:32,079 --> 00:32:34,519
Texas Tech hadn't seen, or that was building off of

729
00:32:34,559 --> 00:32:37,119
something else in the run game. They were doing the

730
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,400
same thing. It wasn't just BYU going up there and

731
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,079
saying like, well, it's worked all year, let's just do

732
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:42,519
it again.

733
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 4: That was not what they did.

734
00:32:44,119 --> 00:32:47,279
Speaker 5: It was just Texas Tech played some really good football.

735
00:32:47,279 --> 00:32:49,000
And I know that there's a number of plays that,

736
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,240
you know, Bear's going to watch on tape and he's

737
00:32:51,279 --> 00:32:52,759
going to say, hey, maybe I could have done this,

738
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,880
or I you know, I could have put the ball there,

739
00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:58,960
you know, and and Aaron's going to go back on

740
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:00,559
tape and he's going to learn a lot from it.

741
00:33:00,839 --> 00:33:02,960
I think the way that BYU needs to interpret this

742
00:33:03,119 --> 00:33:06,480
game is we played against the best opponent we've played

743
00:33:06,519 --> 00:33:09,079
all year. We are going to learn a lot from

744
00:33:09,079 --> 00:33:11,759
this game. And if we can have an opportunity to

745
00:33:11,799 --> 00:33:15,559
play these guys again, that experience of playing them is

746
00:33:15,599 --> 00:33:18,119
going to better prepare us to have an opportunity to

747
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,359
beat them if we match up with them again.

748
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:21,759
Speaker 4: That's the way they need to look at it.

749
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 2: The only silver lining in all this from an offense

750
00:33:26,119 --> 00:33:29,759
Ba's offense versus BUS or Texas Techs defense is that

751
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:35,240
I think BYU played Texas Tech the best out of

752
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,880
all the teams that have played in Lobbing, and they

753
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:41,359
only lost by twenty two points. Right everybody else, I

754
00:33:41,359 --> 00:33:46,559
think Kansas I think Kansas State lost what by twenty five,

755
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:51,640
Oklahoma State forty two, Oregon State thirty one. So I

756
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:53,839
guess that's the only silver line, whatever silver linings are

757
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:54,559
there in this game.

758
00:33:56,599 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 5: I mean, like I just said, if I'm the coordinator,

759
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:03,519
if you know, on the football team, yeah, it sucks

760
00:34:03,599 --> 00:34:06,680
because you have to deal with the feeling of wanting

761
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:07,799
an undefeated season.

762
00:34:07,839 --> 00:34:09,679
Speaker 4: You have to deal with, you.

763
00:34:09,559 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 5: Know, feeling like a top ranked team that now has

764
00:34:13,119 --> 00:34:16,559
dropped a little bit. The entire year, You've been climbing

765
00:34:16,599 --> 00:34:19,480
the rankings and that's a fun feeling to be able

766
00:34:19,559 --> 00:34:21,400
to have. And so you know, you're walking in the

767
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:25,280
building Monday morning, you're sitting down in meetings and you're

768
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:27,000
having to go through and look at all of the

769
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,079
things that didn't work. You're having to look at not

770
00:34:29,199 --> 00:34:32,119
scoring points until the fourth quarter. You're having to look

771
00:34:32,159 --> 00:34:34,000
at all of these things that for the first time

772
00:34:34,119 --> 00:34:37,519
this year BYU is having to swallow that tough pill

773
00:34:38,039 --> 00:34:41,639
after a loss. But you have to look at it

774
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:45,119
as now we know our opponent that much better. Going

775
00:34:45,159 --> 00:34:46,800
back to what I said at the beginning of the

776
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:52,079
interview about game planning, about trying to structure things based

777
00:34:52,079 --> 00:34:55,119
off of what you see them do against other teams, Well,

778
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:57,920
how are they going to play you? Well, now you

779
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,880
have a great idea of that, you have an idea

780
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,760
to compare and contrast and say, well, here's how they

781
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:08,000
stopped these other teams, here's what we anticipated, and now look,

782
00:35:08,079 --> 00:35:11,280
they're gonna still do what they do best. I guarantee,

783
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:13,960
so much of what they did on Saturday is what

784
00:35:14,039 --> 00:35:16,719
they have done best against other teams as well. But

785
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,920
there's also gonna be some things and usually that isn't

786
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:24,559
necessarily scheme, but it's in situational meaning, like what of

787
00:35:24,679 --> 00:35:27,800
their scheme do they draw up in certain scenarios because

788
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:32,079
of what they anticipate BYU using, Well, now you see

789
00:35:32,079 --> 00:35:34,199
that a little bit better. You know, it's a little

790
00:35:34,199 --> 00:35:36,199
bit of that gamesman ship I think of why we

791
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:38,880
love like in the NBA and in Major League Baseball,

792
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:42,119
they don't play these one game championships. They play these

793
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:46,280
five games, seven game, these multiple game championships because now

794
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:49,719
it's this chess match throughout all the games of you

795
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:53,360
are getting to know your opponents. So well, that's what

796
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:56,599
I believe the next opportunity can be. You know, it's

797
00:35:56,639 --> 00:36:00,320
always said in sports it's difficult to beat a team twice.

798
00:36:00,599 --> 00:36:03,159
I think if these two teams match up again in

799
00:36:03,199 --> 00:36:05,840
the Big twelve Championship, I think I would be very

800
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,880
exciting because of them having played each other before in Duyu,

801
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:12,159
gaining a greater understanding of Texas Tech and who they

802
00:36:12,199 --> 00:36:13,400
are and how they played Uyu.

803
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:18,840
Speaker 2: The Texas Tech defense team speed was on display. Beart

804
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:22,719
Blockmeyer couldn't get past the line of scrimmage without getting hit.

805
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:27,960
They were surefooted on their turf. When when Bear has,

806
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,960
you know, really showcased well, he showcased his running ability

807
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:37,559
at home on natural grass. Watching the Utah game specifically,

808
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:39,719
Utah really didn't have sure footing at all. They were

809
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:43,119
going to slip in and they just didn't look as

810
00:36:43,159 --> 00:36:46,840
athletic as this Texas Tech defense did. So there's a

811
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:50,639
number of components there that I was kind of digesting.

812
00:36:50,679 --> 00:36:53,079
And then the other component of Boy's offense that has

813
00:36:53,119 --> 00:36:57,639
been effective has been their play action, their intermediate throw

814
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:01,480
game off of play action, and that didn't seem people

815
00:37:01,519 --> 00:37:03,559
working because Texas Tech had a four man rush and

816
00:37:03,599 --> 00:37:06,960
they could collapse the pocket and drop seven every single play.

817
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:10,559
What did you see that was so effective from that

818
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,480
defensive unit of Texas.

819
00:37:13,119 --> 00:37:17,119
Speaker 5: Tech, well, I think they were really good tacklers, you know,

820
00:37:17,519 --> 00:37:20,400
going to that first little part you talked about about.

821
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 4: Playing on turf grass.

822
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:25,199
Speaker 5: Like, I just think as I looked at some of

823
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:30,679
Bears and Lj's runs against other opponents, whether we say

824
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:34,960
it's their ability to make people miss and run through

825
00:37:35,079 --> 00:37:40,119
tackles or the defense's inability to tackle those guys. You know,

826
00:37:40,199 --> 00:37:42,719
I think of some of bears spectacular runs in the

827
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:45,400
Utah game where he was very nimble footed, like, there

828
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:48,400
were a lot of miss tackles, and whether it's because

829
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:51,440
he's two thirty and quick footed like, whatever the case

830
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:51,920
may be.

831
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 4: If you're a defensive.

832
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:56,679
Speaker 5: Coach, you're pulling your hair out, throwing your headset because

833
00:37:56,679 --> 00:37:59,320
of the number of tackles that were missed on those plays.

834
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,679
That is not what Texas Tech was doing on Saturday.

835
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:09,119
Texas Tech, I feel like, was very good tacklers, making contact, key,

836
00:38:09,199 --> 00:38:11,440
keeping their hands on wrapping up. You look at the

837
00:38:11,559 --> 00:38:15,320
interior alignment. How many times that they may bear move,

838
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:17,800
cut back and then somebody was there to make a tackle.

839
00:38:18,199 --> 00:38:20,679
Not a lot of mistackles from that Texas Tech defense.

840
00:38:21,159 --> 00:38:24,719
In terms of the play action passing game. Like a

841
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:29,159
lot of the times, it's those man's schemes that allow

842
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:33,239
you to play type coverage with the outside receivers and

843
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:36,800
then use zone drop interior guys, and so what it

844
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:40,159
does is if you don't winning the man coverages downfield,

845
00:38:40,199 --> 00:38:43,719
it forces the quarterback into throwing checkdowns and then those

846
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:46,559
zone defenders are going to rally to the checkdowns. So

847
00:38:46,679 --> 00:38:51,320
BYU did have a few max protection, a few fakes

848
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:53,880
off of their like counter game and that you know,

849
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:57,239
they hit Chase on a really nice little like drift incut.

850
00:38:57,519 --> 00:39:00,119
I believe in the second quarter of the game they

851
00:39:00,159 --> 00:39:03,719
had a few, but it wasn't as much as they

852
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:04,960
we've seen in the past.

853
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 4: And I think a lot of that goes to when you.

854
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:11,280
Speaker 5: Max protect, you know, you limit the number of people

855
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:14,840
that are getting downfield. When you have a hard time

856
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:17,079
is when the team is able to play a shell

857
00:39:17,159 --> 00:39:20,679
coverage zone wise defensively because you're not able to run

858
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:23,360
the football well and then now you're sending only three

859
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:27,400
receivers downfield versus like a dropping seven. That wasn't necessarily

860
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:29,480
the case every.

861
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:30,519
Speaker 4: Time against Texas Tech.

862
00:39:30,599 --> 00:39:32,559
Speaker 5: There were a few times that we had some play

863
00:39:32,599 --> 00:39:33,840
action passes.

864
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:35,400
Speaker 4: And into the sideline.

865
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:38,599
Speaker 5: YU was running a flood concept, but because of the

866
00:39:39,199 --> 00:39:42,199
trap corners and the coverage that Texas Tech was playing.

867
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:43,280
Speaker 4: They had numbers.

868
00:39:43,679 --> 00:39:47,079
Speaker 5: And then the man schemes like if you go to

869
00:39:47,199 --> 00:39:49,599
like the NFL and some of these schemes that teams

870
00:39:49,599 --> 00:39:52,719
are trying to run, whether you are trying to decipher

871
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:54,280
was it an RPO or was.

872
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:56,079
Speaker 4: It a design play action pass?

873
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,760
Speaker 5: A lot of the times playing a man's scheme on

874
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:03,320
the edges with zone droppers underneath are what limits that.

875
00:40:04,039 --> 00:40:07,119
And I saw that from Texas Tech, like they were

876
00:40:07,159 --> 00:40:10,360
able to play very good man coverage out on the edges,

877
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:14,480
zone droppers underneath, and you have somebody running right on

878
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:17,039
the back of the receiver plus at times an underneath

879
00:40:17,159 --> 00:40:19,800
zone guy, and so there's not a lane. Even if

880
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:22,239
your man guy is beating him by a step, there's

881
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:25,079
still the potential that you may not have the lane

882
00:40:25,079 --> 00:40:27,360
to throw it in because the zone dropper, and they

883
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,360
forced you to drop the ball off to check it down.

884
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:31,840
And that's why you saw a number of throws checked

885
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:33,440
down out in the flats to the tight end and

886
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:36,039
the running backs. And then Texas Texas rallied to make a.

887
00:40:36,079 --> 00:40:41,039
Speaker 2: Tackle in those situations, is it best to utilize certain

888
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:44,559
personnel that's a little bit better at winning one on

889
00:40:44,559 --> 00:40:47,760
ones in open space on those checkdowns. I know you

890
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:49,840
had a couple of really good football players you were

891
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:51,599
able to check down the ball too, that could win

892
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:55,159
an open space after the checks with it. With checkdowns.

893
00:40:55,199 --> 00:40:57,400
Curtis Brown was really good at that. I remember that

894
00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:59,599
TCU game six. You dumped it down for like a

895
00:40:59,639 --> 00:41:01,840
four It was like a third and long, and you

896
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:04,679
dumped it down for like a four yard completion and

897
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:07,679
Curtis took it up field versus a very good top

898
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:10,679
twenty five TSU defense and picked up the first down.

899
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:15,119
I almost wonder if personnel wise, you can you begin

900
00:41:15,159 --> 00:41:17,679
to kind of activate like a jovesa Davouni or even

901
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:19,639
a press and rerection in those situations when you know

902
00:41:19,679 --> 00:41:21,480
you're gonna have to check down because nothing's going to

903
00:41:21,519 --> 00:41:22,119
be downfield.

904
00:41:23,559 --> 00:41:25,920
Speaker 5: Yeah. And you know, here's the thing about checkdowns that

905
00:41:26,119 --> 00:41:29,199
there are times that you line up and you see

906
00:41:29,199 --> 00:41:32,840
the coverage and in your head you know the probability

907
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:35,079
of getting a ball downfield is going to be limited,

908
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:36,440
and so you know the.

909
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 4: Chances are it's going to go to the checkdown. There

910
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:40,519
are other times with you.

911
00:41:40,519 --> 00:41:42,280
Speaker 5: Believe that you're gonna have a great opportunity to get

912
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:45,639
the ball downfield and you have to then take the

913
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:48,079
checkdown because it doesn't give it to you. But you

914
00:41:48,079 --> 00:41:53,800
weren't anticipating that. In both of those scenarios, you never anticipate, Oh,

915
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:55,920
I'm choosing this because I think it's gonna be a

916
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:56,679
great chance.

917
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:57,760
Speaker 4: To pick up the third and thirteen.

918
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:00,119
Speaker 5: Like when I threw that ball to Curtis, Gary and

919
00:42:00,159 --> 00:42:02,320
T I wasn't thinking, oh, man, this is going to

920
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:04,320
be a great opportunity to get this third and thirteen

921
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:07,159
right here, because he's going to make all these people miss.

922
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:10,199
It just comes down to that player making a play.

923
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:12,360
The same reason why we love an LJ. Martin running

924
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:14,599
through tackles in the run game. He has that same

925
00:42:14,639 --> 00:42:16,760
ability in the past game catching the ball out there.

926
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:20,320
Just the truth is, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.

927
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 4: It's like screen game.

928
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:23,559
Speaker 5: We watch these highlights and all of a sudden, you

929
00:42:23,599 --> 00:42:25,800
throw a team goes a little screen and it goes

930
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:28,639
for sixty for a touchdown. I guarantee when the coach

931
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:31,800
dialed up that screen, he wasn't thinking sixty. He was

932
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:34,760
thinking six to eight maybe, but it goes for sixty.

933
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 4: So you don't know.

934
00:42:36,159 --> 00:42:38,079
Speaker 5: I don't know if it's personnel, Like you don't want

935
00:42:38,079 --> 00:42:40,400
to change personnel just because you say, well, we need

936
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:42,679
one of those checkdowns to be able to get more yards.

937
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:46,519
Like that checkdown isn't made to get tons of yards.

938
00:42:46,519 --> 00:42:48,800
That checkdown is made to be a checkdown to pick

939
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:52,079
up whatever you can and potentially put yourself if it's

940
00:42:52,079 --> 00:42:54,360
on a third down, give us enough yards so that

941
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:56,199
maybe we can now go for it on fourth down.

942
00:42:56,679 --> 00:42:58,480
I do think later in the game you saw them

943
00:42:58,519 --> 00:43:00,920
take a few chances downfield, like Chase almost had an

944
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:04,760
amazing catch on a downfill ball down the right sideline.

945
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:06,400
Speaker 4: Sometimes you just have to do that.

946
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:09,360
Speaker 5: When teams are playing good man coverage, you have to

947
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:11,800
take your chances. You've got to take your shots. Some

948
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games it works, some games it doesn't. This was a

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game that it just it didn't work.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 5: And there's a few plays like I think it was

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who had the one drop away? Was it Jojo had

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to drop on a scramble a bear made you know

954
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what I mean? Who knows what happens that's beyond the

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sticks right there that's a first down.

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Speaker 4: Like, you never know.

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Speaker 5: What could happen on a few plays here there. I

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just know overall when you watch the tape, when you

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watch what TCU, I mean, sorry, what Texas Tech did

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the BYU. They put the most pressure on Bear that

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he's had. They limited Bear's ability to take off and

962
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escape and run more than anybody else has. They limited

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Yu's base running game, like so much of what U's

964
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been able to do has been built off.

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Speaker 4: Of that run game.

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Speaker 5: And that just wasn't what was going on.

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Speaker 2: With this game.

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Speaker 5: And you look at the what was it two weeks

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ago when BYU was down a little bit against Iowa State,

970
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they made some really really key plays, some big time

971
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scramble plays. They had a defensive turnover, they had a

972
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special teams turnover that gave them the opportunity to rally back.

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You know, those type of plays weren't happening in this game.

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Like Texas Tech.

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Speaker 4: Controlled a lot of the things.

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Speaker 5: And that's just that's just the way that it shakes

977
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down at whatever level, and like any level of football,

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when when you're under that much dress, when they're playing

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that well at coverage, when it's just that's football and

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that's what it looks like. On Saturday.

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Speaker 2: John Beck here on ESPN the Fan, a little keeping

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they got to move on. They get TCU at home,

988
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they have to go on the road versus Sincy, and

989
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then they welcome UCF at home. What's the messaging to

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00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:56,880
this BYU football team heading into this next matchup with

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the horn Frogs.

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Speaker 4: Well, you got to make.

993
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Speaker 5: A decision of these are the things that happened, and

994
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then you got to move on.

995
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Speaker 4: What you can't do as a football team is you and.

996
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Speaker 5: This is a coaching staff as well, is you can't

997
00:45:10,159 --> 00:45:14,719
sit there and wonder what if you can't sit there

998
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and feel bad about man, Now we're not going to

999
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be able to have the undefeated season. Like you can't

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sit there and replay plays, like all of that.

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Speaker 4: Just needs to end.

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Speaker 5: But like you have to already be moved on from

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that game. You have to turn the page, because the

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reality is you still have everything that you wanted within

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your control as long as you take care of business,

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and TCU is going to come in very, very hungry.

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So all of those things from this game where you

1008
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might as a player sit in the locker room and

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look at your teammate be like, man, we just did

1010
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not see that coming.

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Speaker 4: You can't have that happen.

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Speaker 5: Everything about that Texas Tech game needs to be learned,

1013
00:45:55,559 --> 00:45:58,760
moved on from know what you're going to do going forward,

1014
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and have that be the focus, because there are too many.

1015
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Speaker 4: Important games in the next three weeks to have.

1016
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Speaker 5: Any thought about what could have happened, what we thought

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was going to happen, or what this means. Now, those

1018
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:11,559
can't be in your head. You just got to wipe

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them all clean. I love the phrase no rearview mirrors, Like,

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if you start feeling like you got some rearview mirrors

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up and you're looking in the past of that game,

1022
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you got to tear those things down and you just

1023
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got to be focused on the task at hand. Because

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I promised that this is TCU team coming in.

1025
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Speaker 4: They've had some bumps along the way.

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Speaker 5: They've had some games that they sputtered a little bit

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here or there, but I have seen them when they

1028
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played good. They have the potential to be a really

1029
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good football team.

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Speaker 2: John Beck here on ESPN The Fan, John, a couple

1031
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last things before we let you go regarding Bear. What

1032
00:46:46,639 --> 00:46:51,000
can Bear take away from this Texas Tech game and

1033
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what does he need to work on in these final

1034
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three games in order to maybe maximize his abilities and

1035
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put himself in the best position to make plays for

1036
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his team.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. You know, he's had an outstanding year as a

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true freshman, and it's been great to see the success

1039
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that he's had. I think for Bear, so much of

1040
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this is going to be about understanding the feeling of

1041
00:47:14,199 --> 00:47:17,920
the experience. You know, this was a huge experience for

1042
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:20,880
a young man at his age, at his level of experience,

1043
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:24,719
to be the you know, a huge national game, two

1044
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:28,559
top ten teams in their place, Like that is an

1045
00:47:28,679 --> 00:47:32,239
environment right there that is tough on on anybody.

1046
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Speaker 4: That's tough on a seasoned college quarterback.

1047
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Speaker 5: And so for Bear having that only be I believe

1048
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was it his ninth game of the year, Is that correct, night, Yeah, yeah, ninth.

1049
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Speaker 4: Game, Like he just needs to take from that. Everything

1050
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:51,079
from that is a learning experience, whether it was a.

1051
00:47:51,039 --> 00:47:54,719
Speaker 5: Positive play, a negative play, the feelings that he experienced

1052
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during the game. You know, there were a few times

1053
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that he might have felt a little out of sorts,

1054
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:00,239
a little out, you know.

1055
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Speaker 4: Like just a little off.

1056
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Speaker 5: You're gonna have that happen as a quarterback. You're going

1057
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to have that happen, even if you're a season's quarterback

1058
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at times, like you watch NFL games and you can

1059
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:12,639
see the best of the best sometimes.

1060
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Speaker 4: Still experience that. So he just needs to.

1061
00:48:14,559 --> 00:48:18,079
Speaker 5: Take all of that and understand the feeling that he's

1062
00:48:18,159 --> 00:48:21,199
experiencing now on this level, and he needs to just

1063
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:23,199
put all of that in a place that he can

1064
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:25,280
use that for his benefit later on.

1065
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Speaker 4: He now knows what it feels like to.

1066
00:48:27,679 --> 00:48:30,039
Speaker 5: Play against the top five defense in the country on

1067
00:48:30,119 --> 00:48:32,440
the road at their place. He now knows what it

1068
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:34,960
feels like to be down, you know, and have some

1069
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things not working in a game at times when you're

1070
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:41,840
very used to things working. That's a different experience when

1071
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:44,599
you're trying, trying, trying, and it's just not working, not working,

1072
00:48:44,639 --> 00:48:46,519
not working. Okay, Well, now you know what it feels like.

1073
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:47,199
Speaker 4: You know.

1074
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:49,400
Speaker 5: Now you know how to be calm in those circumstances,

1075
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:51,199
there's gonna be other big, big games.

1076
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Speaker 4: We all hope that BYU wins.

1077
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:55,599
Speaker 5: Out and that things play out in a way that

1078
00:48:55,639 --> 00:48:58,159
they're playing in the Big twelve Championship and there's a

1079
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:01,280
high probability that they're back against that saying Texas Tech team, Well,

1080
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guess what, I'm pretty sure that's going to be at

1081
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:06,920
Cowboys Stadium in Arlington, Texas. So there's going to be

1082
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:09,519
even more Texas Tech fans screaming at that place.

1083
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Speaker 4: It's going to be a crazy environment.

1084
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Speaker 5: All of these things that he's experienced have been great

1085
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to help him be better prepared for that next experience.

1086
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Speaker 2: John Beck, Ladies and gentlemen, the quarterback scientists at three

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opportunities during the season and towards the end of the

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season to get better. You guys provide a service almost

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, it's basically any way that a quarterback

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can improve. Quarterbacks have to be extremely hungry and motivated,

1095
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and so it's every opportunity that they can find to

1096
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improve their understanding at least their football IQ or gaining

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experience and learning.

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Speaker 4: From the emotions that he's.

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Speaker 5: I have a number of calls today when I get

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off the phone here and it's quarterbacks. It's working through

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all of the things that a quarterback experiences. I have

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collegiate quarterbacks that every Monday we are watching some tape,

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We're going through their clips.

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Speaker 4: It's at all levels. We have high school quarterbacks.

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Speaker 5: Just Saturday, just just two days ago, we had high

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school quarterbacks that were in on Saturday morning getting their

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work in. Whether it's to prepare for a playoff game

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or because their season ended, but they want to put

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in some final work before they transition to basketball or

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another sport. It's just to play that position, you have

1111
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to always be working, always be grinding.

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Speaker 4: And I mean, I can tell.

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Speaker 5: You loads of stories of a lot of guys that

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they were just a high school kid and nobody was,

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you know, crowning them with four stars or five stars

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or even three stars. But they just kept showing up,

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kept putting in the work, kept jumping on phone calls,

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they just kept going, kept going and they're now the

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guys playing on Saturdays playing on Sundays because they just

1120
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kept believing and kept putting.

1121
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Speaker 4: In the work.

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Speaker 2: John Beck, Ladies and gentlemen, John, I always appreciate our time.

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Speaker 4: Yeah sounds good man. I'll always take some of that.

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Speaker 5: Now?

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Speaker 4: I have a couple.

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Speaker 5: My son that's out in Korea has a couple, and uh, yeah,

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it's funny. I can't even put on my old suits

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now because I just I love no, I love the comfort.

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Speaker 4: I love the comfort whether.

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Speaker 5: I'm you know, I think we've joked around it on

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this before, but like as soon as the car pulls

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up at the house, my kids grab a football, Dad

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play cats. And I used to be like, hey, let

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me change out on my Sunday clothes. I'll throw you

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balls now and my favorite thing on Sunday is coming

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home from church, getting some chips and salsa and watching

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some football.

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Speaker 4: And I just now I.

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Speaker 5: Don't feel like I got to get out of the

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suit as fast.

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Speaker 4: I just.

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Speaker 5: I do worry about spilling salsa.

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Speaker 4: Though I do worry about spilling salsa.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, it's just that the phrase of athletic feel

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in a suit.

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Speaker 4: It's why I enjoyed so much.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, me too, Man, appreciate you all. Love John Beck,

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ladies and gentlemen. Thanks John. I always appreciate our time together.

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Speaker 4: Sounds great. We'll see you he go.

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