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Speaker 1: Cole Connor and I'm Adam Ramsey. This is where we talk, shop,
Speaker 1: ask questions, tell stories, and laugh some laughs about being creators.
Speaker 2: As well as consumers of adult content. We love watching too.
Speaker 1: We certainly do. We also discuss the impact adult films
Speaker 1: have had on us, on our guests, and on the
Speaker 1: LGBTQ community. So strap on and strap in and here
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Speaker 2: Well, hello, welcome everybody, welcome to Sorry for asking. I'm
Speaker 2: Adam Ramsey, I'm Cold Connor, and this is this is
Speaker 2: our house. Is our is what we're doing now, okay,
Speaker 2: all right, well new setup. This is a summer of
Speaker 2: shakeups man man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So to fill you all in, Yes, we were
Speaker 1: told like a week before our last studio was closing
Speaker 1: that it was closing, Yeah, that we needed to find
Speaker 1: a new place to tape this. And here we are.
Speaker 1: Here we are.
Speaker 2: This is our preliminary, our first time. This is where
Speaker 2: we're testing the waters. We're dipping our toes in.
Speaker 1: How are we doing? I'm good.
Speaker 2: We are post fourth of July weekends. A lot has happened,
Speaker 2: A lot's been going on since we saw you last,
Speaker 2: which was with mister Judas King, And do you feel like.
Speaker 1: It's been a summer of shakeups?
Speaker 2: There are so many changes in my life right now.
Speaker 2: I feel like there's like a lot to manage. But
Speaker 2: first of all, how you doing. How was your weekend?
Speaker 1: Well, let's my weekend was fine. It's for of July.
Speaker 1: I didn't do too much. I did accept I you
Speaker 1: were there my Porn without the Porn improv show. Yes, congratulations,
Speaker 1: which was so fun. It was a lot of fun. Yeah,
Speaker 1: with Girth Brooks and Sylvia Sage and Tony Genius. Yes,
Speaker 1: they're also great.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: We had Oscar Montoya and Meatball and Betsy Siddaro and
Speaker 1: Mono Agapion. Yeah who I did it with, Like Mono
Speaker 1: and I are hosting it. Yeah, you know, so we'll
Speaker 1: always be in it. I hope. I hope you get
Speaker 1: to do it like once a month. You guys had
Speaker 1: like a full audience.
Speaker 2: I know when I when I got there, there was
Speaker 2: a line to get it, and I was like.
Speaker 1: Holy, we had drinks at Birds before then we like
Speaker 1: we walked past the line and I was like, oh
Speaker 1: that was for us. Yeah, Yeah, it was awesome.
Speaker 2: Congratulations, Yeah, meat balls hilarious.
Speaker 1: I love the repeated when she would.
Speaker 2: Go no, but also yes, because you know you never
Speaker 2: say no an improv. Is it exciting or was it
Speaker 2: like nerve wrecking as fuck to do It's?
Speaker 1: UCB is a really fun place to do it. So
Speaker 1: I did Groundling. I went through the whole Groundling school
Speaker 1: like fifteen years ago. Wow. So I just remember my
Speaker 1: last few times doing improv at that stage in my life,
Speaker 1: getting really nervous before anytime I had to do improv
Speaker 1: because it was like the school becomes more about writing
Speaker 1: and performing sketches than the improv, and you kind of
Speaker 1: forget how to improv when you're doing like the writing
Speaker 1: right re e sided. So then I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I forgot how to improv. But uc B, I mean everybody,
Speaker 1: the improvisers we have in both the show and the
Speaker 1: one we did in May, they're so strong that they
Speaker 1: can I feel safe that they can they can take
Speaker 1: care of you, yeah, you know, and then I feel
Speaker 1: like we Yeah, I feel like everybody was on the
Speaker 1: same page. So you know, sometimes an improvview mis hear
Speaker 1: something and it's kind of and someone goes off on
Speaker 1: like a weird tangent you're like, oh, I realized that
Speaker 1: they they heard something else then the audio. But then
Speaker 1: you can always tie that in like happy accidents. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, can I do the next one? I think so.
Speaker 1: Mono and I were messaging and he was like, you
Speaker 1: should do it. Oh totally, it's so fun like it was.
Speaker 1: Of course, you get anxious before, get nervous, and you're like,
Speaker 1: I did a little like meditated and like an hour
Speaker 1: before and yeah, I just I was really happy with
Speaker 1: how it went in the turnout and it was a
Speaker 1: lot of fun. So I will post when the next
Speaker 1: one is perfect, sounds good.
Speaker 2: I will hopefully be featuring mister Adam cool.
Speaker 1: Congratulations. Who do you think was like the standout of
Speaker 1: the of the porn people? I think Sylvia was like
Speaker 1: fucking amazing.
Speaker 2: I'm a big fan of Sylvia's. I've been on her
Speaker 2: podcast and she's just she's just such a person. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I just love her the way she carries herself where
Speaker 2: she talks. She's so funny and so cool and so beautiful. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we got to have her on. I would love to
Speaker 2: have Yeah, she's so engaging, Like I feel like having
Speaker 2: her on it would like it would.
Speaker 1: Just fly by have we had Tony on. We have
Speaker 1: not had Tony and yeah we should have Girth on too.
Speaker 1: Girth is an interesting.
Speaker 2: They were all a lot. All four of you were fun.
Speaker 2: I think you had some of the best closing lines.
Speaker 1: You had like two times.
Speaker 2: I feel like when you were like right before Blackout,
Speaker 2: you had like a killer.
Speaker 1: Of a line like smells like shit in here. That
Speaker 1: was my favorite. Well done. It was like I was
Speaker 1: waiting for the right moment. I knew that had to
Speaker 1: end because the characters on the stage were like smelling
Speaker 1: each other's parts in the scene, so it was like, oh,
Speaker 1: it has to smell so funny. Yeah, yeah, good timing.
Speaker 1: It was good. What's being shooken up for you? Shaken?
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness.
Speaker 2: Streams of income, I guess are all kind of being
Speaker 2: like called into question right now. I'm and you know,
Speaker 2: I'm about to go to Berlin, which I'm really excited about,
Speaker 2: and we can get into that in a second. But
Speaker 2: like everything that is like my line of work right now,
Speaker 2: I feel like it's just like halting a little bit,
Speaker 2: and I'm just kind of like, Okay, I need to
Speaker 2: like kind of make some changes, like you know, like
Speaker 2: high tops and.
Speaker 1: My only fans. I'm trying.
Speaker 2: I'm like kind of like trying to beef up a
Speaker 2: little bit. I'm realizing, Yeah, for.
Speaker 1: Sure, it's so fun. Guys subscribed. Yeah it's gonna go.
Speaker 2: So I also I also reached out to a director
Speaker 2: who we both know, and I was just like, hey,
Speaker 2: I bet you know I'm in great shape right now.
Speaker 2: I'm just like really missing studio work. Is there anything
Speaker 2: you got for me? And like, you know, he basically
Speaker 2: was just like yeah, what do you He's like, I've
Speaker 2: been really getting into fetish stuff, like are you into fetish?
Speaker 2: And I was like, well that could mean anything, So
Speaker 2: what exactly are you asking me? And he was like, well,
Speaker 2: you know, like I'm about to shoot something with a
Speaker 2: fuck machine?
Speaker 1: Are you into that?
Speaker 2: And I was just like, oh that kind of fetish,
Speaker 2: oh bondage and pain And I was like I was like,
Speaker 2: you know, role play and voyeurism could be you know,
Speaker 2: I mean it doesn't really matter who it was like,
Speaker 2: I mean, because I'm not calling you, it's just more
Speaker 2: he works for a bunch. I was just like, shit,
Speaker 2: isn't there like hot daddy porn? I could be in again,
Speaker 2: Like you know, Daddy's on Daddy's or something like.
Speaker 1: I feel like with gay porn, it's just people people
Speaker 1: are just like pushing the limits more like people just
Speaker 1: want to want more limit pushing.
Speaker 2: And I also think that a lot of content creators
Speaker 2: are like going for niche, like they have like their
Speaker 2: niche thing that they do, which is like, you know,
Speaker 2: I think that's been kind of also something like people
Speaker 2: have been kind of telling me forever, which is like.
Speaker 1: Pick one thing and do that. I just can't do that.
Speaker 1: That's just not my thing. It's I know, and it
Speaker 1: would get very boring if it's not something that you're into. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know. It was like I was talking with a
Speaker 1: friend so about the back to not to go back
Speaker 1: to the mprov show, but someone someone was saying that,
Speaker 1: you know, not all the scenes end up being about porn,
Speaker 1: and it's like he was like, yeah, the first couple
Speaker 1: of scenes you kind of like used it a little bit.
Speaker 1: But I'm like, yeah, because every scene would be boring
Speaker 1: if it's like there's only if you're just horny for sex.
Speaker 2: Well, I was kind of curious about so you guys,
Speaker 2: his show is called porn without the porn, so I
Speaker 2: was kind of curious like if it was supposed to be,
Speaker 2: like like the setups are around porn, Yeah, it's like,
Speaker 2: but the improv is not at all?
Speaker 1: Or was it was that the.
Speaker 2: Plan for it not to be or was it supposed to.
Speaker 1: Actually it actually wasn't really discussed with everybody. It's like
Speaker 1: an improv show and there's four of us that do porn.
Speaker 2: And did you notice that every time you guys ask
Speaker 2: the audience for a prompt that like it all Like
Speaker 2: I would say half the time it.
Speaker 1: Was like stuff that had to do with children. Did
Speaker 1: you hear me?
Speaker 2: Like at one point, like as some dude like after
Speaker 2: like the sixth time, like somebody was they were like, uh,
Speaker 2: pick a scenario that has like not been in porn
Speaker 2: or something that was like kids doing homework, and I
Speaker 2: like called it out. I was just like what because
Speaker 2: we need another thing about kids right now?
Speaker 1: Like what is with the audience? There was there was
Speaker 1: a show right before us that was kids like it
Speaker 1: was it was a kid improv show right before.
Speaker 2: Us, Wow, followed by porn perfect.
Speaker 1: Followed by porn without the porn on the same on
Speaker 1: the same little chalkboard on the street right.
Speaker 2: Well, another thing that was different recently, I was asked
Speaker 2: for the second year in a row to be part
Speaker 2: of Seattle Pride, which I don't know if you have
Speaker 2: you ever been to Seattle.
Speaker 1: Just once I went, and I went in October, Okay,
Speaker 1: did you like it? Yeah? It was it rained, of
Speaker 1: course and that. But the day that I left, I
Speaker 1: had like a good chunk of the day before I
Speaker 1: had to go to the airport and it was beautiful.
Speaker 1: So and this guy that I had hooked up with
Speaker 1: it took me to brunch and then showed like drugged
Speaker 1: me to a couple of parks and stuff, and yeah,
Speaker 1: we took pictures and Seattle's pretty cute, little nice day.
Speaker 1: Like I was just like I've been.
Speaker 2: I've been to Seattle before, like for touris Sea stuff
Speaker 2: for when I was a touring musician, I went to Seattle.
Speaker 1: But these last two.
Speaker 2: Years going like in late June for Pride, when the
Speaker 2: weather is perfect, everyone's in a good mood.
Speaker 1: Seattle is so clean.
Speaker 2: Seattle's like San Francisco, but greener and not as dirty.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can see that.
Speaker 2: Like I was just like, wow, y'all, don't brag about
Speaker 2: yourself enough, Like Seattle is a cool place.
Speaker 1: Probably stay clean because it's raining all.
Speaker 2: That, right, and like why would end the homeless people
Speaker 2: want to be there when it's raining, like you know,
Speaker 2: seventy percent of the year. The I just had a
Speaker 2: really good time. I went up there with the Ottero
Speaker 2: pop boys and they asked me to go go dance,
Speaker 2: which I hadn't done in like almost two years. So like,
Speaker 2: and a lot of people on our team are people
Speaker 2: that I hire for the hot Dog and Gym Class parties,
Speaker 2: and they were kind of gagged. They were like, wait,
Speaker 2: you go go dance. And I was like, this is
Speaker 2: how I got started, literally how I got started in
Speaker 2: all the industries, like between porn and like making parties
Speaker 2: and stuff.
Speaker 1: So I was just like, yeah, Dad's gonna show everybody
Speaker 1: how it's done. It was fun. Oh my god. I
Speaker 1: had so much fun. I had way too much fun.
Speaker 2: Like I was on that stage feeling my rock star
Speaker 2: like you know, fantasy and just like a couple of
Speaker 2: times because like there was a stage and me and
Speaker 2: Dejano and Brogan we were sharing the stage because we
Speaker 2: were like a team, and we would switch who was
Speaker 2: at like the front and center of like the big stage.
Speaker 2: And when the sun went down, like the lights turned
Speaker 2: on and it felt like we were at Coachella and
Speaker 2: I had so when I was at the front, there
Speaker 2: was a moment where hold It Against Me by Britney
Speaker 2: Spears came on and I'm sorry, that's my favorite Britney Spears.
Speaker 2: I turned into a monster in the best way I
Speaker 2: was performing. It was so much fun. Britney Spears does
Speaker 2: he have.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't be sending anything, damn it. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I had another moment with Jay's Angel in my dreams.
Speaker 2: And then like right at the end of our very
Speaker 2: very long we had like we did it for many hours,
Speaker 2: and like at the very end, John Klaft, who was
Speaker 2: the DJ for Auto Pop, he played Lady marmalade by
Speaker 2: like you know, the Mulin rouge, like that foursome, and
Speaker 2: like as soon as it started, the three of us
Speaker 2: looked at each other, We're like, this is so stupid,
Speaker 2: are you kidding? By the end of it, full performance,
Speaker 2: full like tableau at the end, you know, like you know,
Speaker 2: with the four like that was us brought the house down.
Speaker 2: I was very very proud, lip syncing the whole thing,
Speaker 2: Like it was really really fun. So it was fun
Speaker 2: to go go dance again. Seattle Pride highly recommended. When
Speaker 2: was that June? Like the end of June, so basically
Speaker 2: like the same time as like New York Pride in
Speaker 2: San Francisco Pride.
Speaker 1: What a month. I know she was busy so well.
Speaker 1: I was going to do a buy.
Speaker 2: Orgy group thing Bye Orgy, like we win it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I had to pull out because I got
Speaker 1: gunnery in my throat. Oh babes, So people still get
Speaker 1: gone Aria. That's like if I get Gonerria, it's in.
Speaker 2: I hope I am not chinking my throat really.
Speaker 1: Yeah, at this point I was a c sematic, but
Speaker 1: it was like it sucks. I was like I went
Speaker 1: to get tested for that by Orgy and yeah like yeah, sorry, guys.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have my Appertude shot tomorrow, which means I'm
Speaker 2: getting tested just in time for Berlin. Apportude is the
Speaker 2: new prep by the way, you guys, and the injection.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I I've tried to get on it
Speaker 1: a couple of times and it's like not easy to.
Speaker 2: Get on really, Like oh, they offered it to me
Speaker 2: the place that I got my doctor's office. Yeah, they
Speaker 2: were like, we have this option if you want to
Speaker 2: change from truvada, which you know I've been doing for twelve.
Speaker 1: Almost twelve years. Oh, I'm on to yeah, but yeah,
Speaker 1: it's something like something always gets in the way, Like
Speaker 1: my doctor has written me a prescription a couple of
Speaker 1: times for it, and it just like never gets done. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm into it. It's nice not having to
Speaker 2: take a pill every day.
Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, I'm not. I don't want to.
Speaker 2: Jinx myself, but I have not gotten gonnery or chlamydia
Speaker 2: in quite some time.
Speaker 1: Are you on doxy also?
Speaker 2: I am not on it as like a regular thing.
Speaker 2: This is doxy pep for the moms. This is something
Speaker 2: that people now in you know, in our line not
Speaker 2: line of work, but our queer existence, just general guys
Speaker 2: who are sexually active, because tax.
Speaker 1: Could be sexually active at any moment.
Speaker 2: Yes, I feel like, yeah, preventively, this doxy cycling is
Speaker 2: taken to avoid mostly chlamydia, but I think it works
Speaker 2: for to oh in syphilis. So I don't take it
Speaker 2: as PEP, which is post exposure or pre exposure. No,
Speaker 2: as prep. I don't take it as prep. I take
Speaker 2: it take it as PEP as post exposure. So if
Speaker 2: I have like a particularly mild risky encounter or period
Speaker 2: of time.
Speaker 1: This I'll be like, I'll take you know.
Speaker 2: Sometimes sometimes I was. I was like with a performer
Speaker 2: recently who had had I mean, I'm you know what,
Speaker 2: I'm going to say his name because I wanted to
Speaker 2: talk about him anyway, Teddy Graham.
Speaker 1: Have you worked with him before?
Speaker 2: Okay, First, I'm going to say what I'm talking about,
Speaker 2: which is that I knew he had had a very
Speaker 2: busy week in Los Angeles and we filmed something together.
Speaker 2: So I was like, this is the time to take
Speaker 2: a doxy pep.
Speaker 1: So I did.
Speaker 2: However, I want to talk about because you know, I
Speaker 2: want to talk about our recent experiences and stuff.
Speaker 1: Have you worked with Teddy Graham? Yeah, I am. He
Speaker 1: was in the Nashville content house that I was.
Speaker 2: Oh, okay, okay, I had one of the best, one
Speaker 2: of the best scenes I've ever filmed.
Speaker 1: In my life.
Speaker 2: And let me tell you this too. This this is
Speaker 2: I know, I'm terrible. If you're a performer who is
Speaker 2: reached out to me to film and I've ghosted you,
Speaker 2: I'm so sorry.
Speaker 1: I'm terrible. Lately.
Speaker 2: I just have been you know, I'm I've just been
Speaker 2: very protective of my energy and I don't want to film.
Speaker 2: I don't even want to hook up like outside of
Speaker 2: filming with people that I don't know anymore.
Speaker 1: It's just so rare for me these days.
Speaker 2: And he's been reaching out for a while, just like hey,
Speaker 2: I'm going to be in town, like you know, let's
Speaker 2: get together.
Speaker 1: And I'm always like, this is what I do a lot.
Speaker 2: Of times because I know I should film more, so
Speaker 2: I'll just be like, yeah, totally, like reach out when
Speaker 2: you get here. And then he did, and I totally
Speaker 2: I was just like, oh God, like I don't want
Speaker 2: to say like maybe I want to meet you first,
Speaker 2: or like or no, or like I get weird about scheduling.
Speaker 1: He came to gym class.
Speaker 2: Like right at the end, and he was like, hey,
Speaker 2: you're Adam, right and I said yes, and he was like,
Speaker 2: I'm teddy. I was like, oh my gosh, I'm so
Speaker 2: glad you're here because I'm sorry. I've been really bad
Speaker 2: about messaging people back. And he was like, I totally
Speaker 2: get it, don't worry about it. And I also was
Speaker 2: just kind of like, damn, this motherfucker's sexy, like even
Speaker 2: sexier in person. And I was just like also, I
Speaker 2: think I just needed to meet you first. It's nice
Speaker 2: to meet you. He's like, it's nice to meet you too,
Speaker 2: and I kind of we just kind of like instantly
Speaker 2: kind of started getting closer to each other. And he's
Speaker 2: a great kisser and he like makes eye contact and
Speaker 2: I was like, so, how long are you in town?
Speaker 2: And he was like, I'm here till Monday and I
Speaker 2: was just like okay, and like bam, bam bam. Like
Speaker 2: two days later he was over. Didn't even need a
Speaker 2: bi mix.
Speaker 1: Like it was just like I don't always need it.
Speaker 2: I don't always, but like I would say lately, like
Speaker 2: especially with someone I don't know very well, like you know,
Speaker 2: I probably want to go.
Speaker 1: Use that, like just to be sure I do it
Speaker 1: if I'm like, if I know, I'm just topping.
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, Io just topped with him and I was
Speaker 2: fucking hard as rock, happy as a clam. It was amazing,
Speaker 2: like came at the same time, like pulled it out
Speaker 2: to show the camera like I was like, this is
Speaker 2: like the old days anyway, So props, Teddy Graham.
Speaker 1: I haven't been filming much either, No, why is that
Speaker 1: you think? Just I have a lot of content stored
Speaker 1: up and I and I had stuff coming in from
Speaker 1: the Nashville Content House, and I just had all these
Speaker 1: group things that needed to be released. What when other
Speaker 1: people were doing it? So I just I'm backed up
Speaker 1: with content and I wanted to like give it a
Speaker 1: chance to so that I'm not releasing things six months
Speaker 1: after I make it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, do you like to coordinate your schedule with you don't?
Speaker 1: Okay, I know some people do, because I know people
Speaker 1: can't wait. Yeah, for I will say months, like I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm doing.
Speaker 2: I would say, that's very considerate of you, very generous,
Speaker 2: because not everybody is like that. Some people are like, no,
Speaker 2: do not release before I do, because then you're making
Speaker 2: the money off of it before I'm able to. So
Speaker 2: I have some some scenes ready to go, but like
Speaker 2: people are like, no, you.
Speaker 1: Not until I do. And I'm like, that's fine.
Speaker 2: So ships in the pipeline, y'all. I'm I'm filming again.
Speaker 2: It's happening. I have some things to post, but anyway I.
Speaker 1: Should feel I should start maybe after after this, I'm
Speaker 1: going to Wisconsin for the Hodag Festival. What is that?
Speaker 1: It's a music festival? Hodag? Is that like, what does
Speaker 1: that mean? That a name American thing word. I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's not where, it's not what kind of music. I
Speaker 1: think it's like rock and country. Ryan Landers, my friend, Yeah, Ryan,
Speaker 1: all right, I was always talking about it, and I said,
Speaker 1: let's see what this fucking hodag festival is about. Let's
Speaker 1: see how good it does.
Speaker 2: It sounds like a hoe bag to me, so I
Speaker 2: kind of want to You're going to the hoe bag Festival.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna ho bag.
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Speaker 1: from Grinder for getting massage clients out of it.
Speaker 2: Oh how do they catch that?
Speaker 1: I guess somebody maybe I didn't respond to someone and
Speaker 1: they got pissed and that you have to be reported
Speaker 1: for something like that. I don't know. It was like,
Speaker 1: I mean, sometimes people would ask and I'd be like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's the price and whatever and soliciting, yeah, but just
Speaker 1: for massage.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Wow, it's a weird thing. I don't know how long
Speaker 1: bands last or if anybody out there works at Grinder
Speaker 1: wants to help me out and help get back on Grind.
Speaker 1: I've been using Scruff though, and I like Scruff.
Speaker 2: I like Scruff as a as a user as in
Speaker 2: terms of like user functionality, user interface.
Speaker 1: I like Scruff better. Yeah. I like Grinder too, but
Speaker 1: there's just more traffic on Grinder. Yeah, you know, more
Speaker 1: people are on it.
Speaker 2: I think I feel like, I don't know if you've noticed,
Speaker 2: I feel like also a lot of times the engagement,
Speaker 2: you know, and I've been on these apps for forever.
Speaker 2: I don't really need them or use them, but sometimes,
Speaker 2: you know, you just get bored and you browse and
Speaker 2: stuff and things happen. But I feel like Grinder a
Speaker 2: lot of times the engagement is like, hey, what's up,
Speaker 2: Whereas like on Scruff, they're like, I love the drop
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Speaker 1: It's a little more conversations on Scruff is like more
Speaker 1: men like men with the personality, you know. Yeah, that's so.
Speaker 1: That's why I've been because at first, when you first like,
Speaker 1: get on it, I hadn't been on it. I had
Speaker 1: never paid for Scruff before. Now, okay, and it just
Speaker 1: takes some time getting some traction, you know, but now,
Speaker 1: but also I don't The only thing I don't like
Speaker 1: is people are messaging you from like two thousand miles
Speaker 1: away because they can just like pinpoint Los Angeles and
Speaker 1: then talk to guys in Los Angeles. I guess that's
Speaker 1: what they're doing, yes, And I'm like, I don't need
Speaker 1: to talk to you, yes, if nothing's gonna happen if people.
Speaker 2: Are more like I've kind of made it a point
Speaker 2: almost like, if people are more than five miles away
Speaker 2: from me, I'm likely.
Speaker 1: Not going to respond to anybody. Sorry, guys, thank you
Speaker 1: for the woofs in the nice comments. I mean, I guess, yeah,
Speaker 1: if you just want to give me a compliment, fine,
Speaker 1: but let's leave it at that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, have you had any shoots lately that you were like?
Speaker 1: Really? Really?
Speaker 2: I know you haven't been shooting much lately, but has
Speaker 2: there been anything, even studio or not studio, that you
Speaker 2: were like this that was amazing or that was.
Speaker 1: Terrible or worth reporting? No? I got nothing. I hooked
Speaker 1: up with a twenty year old the other night. I know,
Speaker 1: I was like, Wow, that's young. Chat. I just turned
Speaker 1: fucking forty three, y'all. Happy birthday by the way. Thanks.
Speaker 2: Yeah already I think we said that already for the
Speaker 2: last time.
Speaker 1: What did I get for my birthday? Gonnery and my throat?
Speaker 1: What a hope before? What a hoe bag deserves? No?
Speaker 1: Just kidding, just like a hoe bag. No, he was
Speaker 1: really cute. We had been talking on grinder and then
Speaker 1: we were talking on scruff. We finally made it happen. Wow.
Speaker 1: And he came over and was the bottom or top bottom.
Speaker 1: He's like a little muscle, little muscle twenty year old.
Speaker 2: Yum. I've never I don't think I've gone. I shot
Speaker 2: a say uncle scene with somebody who was maybe twenty,
Speaker 2: and I think that's the youngest person I've ever had
Speaker 2: sex with and definitely the largest age gap.
Speaker 1: Sorry, well, I think I'm sure her say uncle, I've
Speaker 1: had sex with an eighteen year old, Damn for sure.
Speaker 2: It just it's just kind of I mean, I know
Speaker 2: we talk about this a lot, and like this is
Speaker 2: something I wanted to get into. It's like just the
Speaker 2: passage of time is so weird, and it's so weird
Speaker 2: to me to think, like, oh, yeah, I saw a
Speaker 2: broke Back Mountain in the theaters in two thousand and five.
Speaker 2: That means this person was born around that time. I've
Speaker 2: been I've been on this crazy like nostalgia kick. I
Speaker 2: don't know if it's because we're both forty three.
Speaker 1: I love a nostalgia kick.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been watching watching I recently watched UHF with
Speaker 2: Weird Al Yankovic. There's a movie from the eighties I
Speaker 2: haven't seen that. It's not great, but it's very funny
Speaker 2: and like it's like it has super memorable lines and
Speaker 2: like it was just weird to watch something that I
Speaker 2: haven't seen in probably thirty years, but like they just
Speaker 2: their lines just come right back, like you just remember
Speaker 2: these things that you haven't seen.
Speaker 1: In so long. I watched or I started, I didn't
Speaker 1: finish it. Wild Hearts Can't Be Broken because it came
Speaker 1: up and I was a conversation that's on what was that.
Speaker 1: It's like, it's a story about a girl who it's
Speaker 1: depression era. Okay, she runs away from home because her
Speaker 1: her aunt, she's she's a troublemaker. She's like a bad
Speaker 1: kid or that's what her stepmom treats her as for
Speaker 1: her aunt. I don't know what it is. But because
Speaker 1: her mom's dead, so she runs away because the parental
Speaker 1: the guardian is going to give her to foster care
Speaker 1: because she just can't handle her. So she runs away.
Speaker 1: She joins she finds like a circus and once and
Speaker 1: starts taking care of the horses and they do something
Speaker 1: like the horses jump off something into a pool, and
Speaker 1: so she becomes a rider, like one of the girls
Speaker 1: that dives with the horse seen and then somehow she
Speaker 1: I like, that's I didn't. I haven't watched it in
Speaker 1: a long time, but I remember she goes blind from
Speaker 1: like something startles the horse before and the horse is Yeah,
Speaker 1: eighties or nineties. I definitely watched this from h that's
Speaker 1: a Disney movie. Totally.
Speaker 2: Wow, I haven't see that's there. There we go, like,
Speaker 2: I haven't thought about this probably since then, I know,
Speaker 2: and like just you describing it, like I remember watching that.
Speaker 1: Wow. Another one.
Speaker 2: I haven't seen it probably since I was like eight
Speaker 2: years old, And I just like randomly thought of it
Speaker 2: the other day and I was like, let me see
Speaker 2: if this is streaming somewhere, and I was able to
Speaker 2: find it. A movie called Batteries Not Included. Yes, you
Speaker 2: remember that, Yeah, with Hume Cronin and Jessica Tandy. Nobody
Speaker 2: who's listening is maybe, well maybe our older listeners.
Speaker 1: Do you remember Cocoon?
Speaker 2: I remember it also featuring these actors. But like, that's
Speaker 2: another one. Probably haven't seen this since I was a kid.
Speaker 1: I thought I was boring, was it? It's like an
Speaker 1: old prison movie?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's a movie about old people who
Speaker 2: feel young again because they'd come across an alien egg
Speaker 2: or something. Yeah, Batteries Not included. Another movie about old
Speaker 2: people and aliens. But the aliens like are like little toys,
Speaker 2: they like fly around and fix things. These fucking eighties
Speaker 2: movie like.
Speaker 1: Everybody's doing cocaine. I'm for sure what I'm making it,
Speaker 1: you can tell.
Speaker 2: But like eighties movie plots like the UAHF for example,
Speaker 2: and Batteries Not included, it's always about like you know,
Speaker 2: like working class people who are like trying to like
Speaker 2: save something from like the corporate bastards. Goonies was like
Speaker 2: that UACHEF was like that. Batteries Not included, Ski Patrol.
Speaker 2: It's always like these movies about people who are like
Speaker 2: let's save the rec center or like save this tenement building,
Speaker 2: or save this TV station from.
Speaker 1: The bastard evil corporate jerky movies like that.
Speaker 2: Seriously, it's relevant to today, is the funny thing. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Nostalgia has been all around because like I think a
Speaker 2: lot about like just how like our memory works, and
Speaker 2: like I put on something else happened actually randomly where
Speaker 2: Hulu was really pushing this movie from like maybe two
Speaker 2: thousand and nine. It was an animated movie called Cloudy
Speaker 2: with a Chance of Meatballs.
Speaker 1: Yes, have you seen that?
Speaker 2: Okay, I remember going to see it, so I was like, well,
Speaker 2: I think I remember liking this. It was like a funny, colorful,
Speaker 2: three D animated movie, like let me put it on.
Speaker 2: I watched fifteen minutes of it and was like, not
Speaker 2: a single shred of this movie is ringing a bell
Speaker 2: like nothing.
Speaker 1: It was like seeing it for the first time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, which doesn't happen often. And I actually texted my
Speaker 2: ex boyfriend who I watched it with. I was like,
Speaker 2: do you remember this movie Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs?
Speaker 2: He was like, yeah, we saw it together and I
Speaker 2: was like, Okay, I was just checking because I don't
Speaker 2: remember anything about this movie and it kind of scared me.
Speaker 1: That's like me when I got a hot dog on
Speaker 1: Sunday nights and then I was trying to come home
Speaker 1: and watch Gilded Aids and I remember nothing about it
Speaker 1: to watch it. Maybe that's what it was.
Speaker 2: Maybe I was just high or drum When I watched
Speaker 2: Cloudy with the Chance of Meatballs. I was like, ooh,
Speaker 2: three d let's get really stoned before we going here.
Speaker 2: Yeah that sounds right. That sounds like me in my
Speaker 2: mid twenties. Well speaking, of parties. That's another thing. Like
Speaker 2: I high through my Access party. We did it, which
Speaker 2: was around the time your birthday.
Speaker 1: It was the weekend before my Yeah, that's probably where
Speaker 1: I got the gunnery in my throat. Get out of here.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, another me throwing super spreader events.
Speaker 1: There were a few dicks in my mouth at that party.
Speaker 2: Well, the party was great, and we just so everybody
Speaker 2: knows who's listening, September thirteen is our next one axis
Speaker 2: sweep is what we're calling it.
Speaker 1: We're gonna there's gonna be broom. It's a broom theme,
Speaker 1: like like the like Nickey Mouse Wizard.
Speaker 2: Sure, yes, actually that's very funny. I didn't think of that,
Speaker 2: but no, I was thinking more like, you know, broom
Speaker 2: is what we use to sweep the fall leaves away
Speaker 2: and and keep clean. No rakes, that's dangerous. But also
Speaker 2: which is fly away, fly on brooms. So that's what
Speaker 2: we're gonna do. But anyway, so Access Bloom was which
Speaker 2: was our summer Solstice party. That was the week of
Speaker 2: the protests, the ice protests. Yeah, crazy time we've been
Speaker 2: having in La with all that. But I had to
Speaker 2: do like a last minute pivot to a new location,
Speaker 2: which I you know, I was like, literally day before
Speaker 2: we were supposed to throw the party, I was driving
Speaker 2: to this place on the West Side and thinking the
Speaker 2: entire drive, why am I doing this?
Speaker 1: This's gonna be a waste of time.
Speaker 2: And then I get there and I was like, Okay,
Speaker 2: we can do this, pull it off in twenty four hours.
Speaker 2: I swear that following week I was like cognitively impaired,
Speaker 2: where I was worried that I broke something. I literally
Speaker 2: and this is this is kind of what led me
Speaker 2: to like these ideas of like these you know, questions
Speaker 2: of memory and our memory works. And I was just like,
Speaker 2: am I I'm just like on a road to early
Speaker 2: onset Alzheimer's, Like it's coming. I'm so scared of shit
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 1: But have any of that in your family?
Speaker 4: No, Well, my grandma died of something that made her
Speaker 4: cuckoo like where she didn't remember things and remember, you know,
Speaker 4: or like first it was kind of charming, like she
Speaker 4: would like be like really like sweet and ask me
Speaker 4: who I was and tell me funny things that I
Speaker 4: was like, oh, that's I'm gonna write that down. But
Speaker 4: then like towards the end she was just kind of
Speaker 4: confused and scared. And I sometimes wonder like maybe that's
Speaker 4: a good way to go because you don't know death
Speaker 4: is coming?
Speaker 1: Is that is that like a big like one of
Speaker 1: your biggest fears dying?
Speaker 2: No, or I don't know which one's worse is of
Speaker 2: like you know, knowing it's coming, or like being so
Speaker 2: out of your mind that you don't know in that
Speaker 2: way you don't really care.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I feel like this podcast, yeah, let's
Speaker 1: get dark. It depends on like the if you're like
Speaker 1: a control freak, I think it would be really scary
Speaker 1: to never remember what's going on or how you got somewhere,
Speaker 1: you know. But if you can just like go with
Speaker 1: the punch and like roll with it, then I think
Speaker 1: you could just be like yeah, yeah, I know I
Speaker 1: should who that is? But right, yes, I don't. Do
Speaker 1: you want to end up in an old folks home together?
Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's got to be gay though, yeah, yes, yeah,
Speaker 2: you know that would be great. I mean I want
Speaker 2: a community of my old homo friends and like us
Speaker 2: just be like yeah, where we get to like, you know,
Speaker 2: put on VHS tapes of things like batteries not included
Speaker 2: and be like you remember.
Speaker 1: And people fuck and yeah, and apparently they get lots
Speaker 1: of gunnery. Yeah, oh my god.
Speaker 2: It is just a preview of our of our future
Speaker 2: as old men.
Speaker 1: I mean we have said before, like I we both
Speaker 1: tend to get hornier as we are aging. Yes, And actually,
Speaker 1: so this is interesting to me too.
Speaker 2: You just got with a twenty year old and I
Speaker 2: feel like like this has kind of come up in
Speaker 2: conversation a lot lately too, is that a lot of
Speaker 2: gen Z people are just like less sexual than millennials
Speaker 2: because like the pendulum side a lot of sides.
Speaker 1: Yes, which I think is a side is a good
Speaker 1: way to be.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like I think I mentioned on one of
Speaker 2: the recent episodes that I have kind of like a
Speaker 2: dad's son relationship with somebody and like we've we've never fucked.
Speaker 2: He just comes over and he just wants to like
Speaker 2: suck my dick and cover me with this huge load,
Speaker 2: and like that's kind of all that happens. So he's
Speaker 2: like very much a side and it's a blast.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's great. Yeah, I could get into that as
Speaker 1: long as I get to.
Speaker 2: Suck the decks of course. Yes, you know, you know
Speaker 2: me an Ooral top. You got to get that mouth
Speaker 2: moving a bottom? Well, are you an oral top.
Speaker 1: Or an oral like sol bottom, meaning meaning you service
Speaker 1: with your mouth? Yes? You eve.
Speaker 2: Give well? Yes, okay, but wait, hold on, wait, this
Speaker 2: is a funny because aren't you because if you're a bottom,
Speaker 2: aren't you receiving?
Speaker 1: Yeah? But if I'm eating an ass, then I'm giving tongue.
Speaker 2: But isn't that like a top that's like a.
Speaker 1: Top thing to doing that sucking dick isn't a top
Speaker 1: thing to do. That's a bottom thing to do. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I guess this is.
Speaker 2: But this is an interesting kind of question about like, uh,
Speaker 2: what's the opposite not receptive, but that is active because
Speaker 2: you're receiving, you're getting sucked in the mouth.
Speaker 1: I know this is so confusing. I know.
Speaker 2: I like this conversation because it's like it's like kind
Speaker 2: of the question of like don versus sub Like if
Speaker 2: you are the one who's sucking dick, are are you
Speaker 2: the one who is active or are you the one
Speaker 2: who's passive?
Speaker 1: You're the one you're active.
Speaker 2: Okay, but if you're getting fucked, that's considered passive.
Speaker 1: Although interesting, so I'm.
Speaker 2: Still again that's another question, like you're in control even
Speaker 2: though you're the one receiving. So I feel like the
Speaker 2: whole binary of dom sub and top bottom. I think
Speaker 2: it's getting really questioned. Yeah, and I love that it's
Speaker 2: getting a questioned. Okay, I have another I have a
Speaker 2: hookup story. I wanted to tell you. It was very interesting.
Speaker 2: You know, after I work at my parties, it's really
Speaker 2: rare that I go home with somebody. I know I've
Speaker 2: mentioned that before, but right at the end of one
Speaker 2: of my recent high Tops nights for gym class, somebody
Speaker 2: came by and just like in ctitat was like hi
Speaker 2: and I was like hi, and he was like who
Speaker 2: are you. I was like, oh, I'm Adam whatever, like
Speaker 2: it's my party, you know. It was just like within
Speaker 2: three minutes, I was giving him my number, which is
Speaker 2: so rare, and he was being very like, I'm very.
Speaker 1: Interested in hanging out with you tonight, and I was like,
Speaker 1: very sweet of you.
Speaker 2: Not going to happen. I was like, I don't hook
Speaker 2: up after work because.
Speaker 1: You've also been there like for a long time. Yeah yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: like you get there how many hours before like anybody
Speaker 1: not that.
Speaker 2: Like it depends, but like but by the end usually
Speaker 2: what I want to do is I want to just
Speaker 2: like get myself home and like watch an episode or
Speaker 2: something and fall asleep. Cut to three point thirty in
Speaker 2: the morning. This guy is coming over to my house.
Speaker 2: We just had there was just chemistry. He told me
Speaker 2: that he needed it to be DL, which if you're
Speaker 2: listening at home, if you don't know, it means for
Speaker 2: the mom's down low, right, isn't that what DL means?
Speaker 1: Which means like basically, this needs to be kept secret?
Speaker 1: And I kind of was like, it's usually like a
Speaker 1: term if it's somebody that isn't out.
Speaker 2: Yes, So of course, knowing me, this ends up being
Speaker 2: a therapy session because I need to ask questions about
Speaker 2: this stuff. I'm like, why, what's the purpose? How are
Speaker 2: we feeling about it? Are you okay with this?
Speaker 1: Can I talk about it podcast?
Speaker 2: I Meanwhile, I'm not naming names, but essentially, like without
Speaker 2: giving too much away, this person was in a monogamous
Speaker 2: relationship and he was coming over and he did not
Speaker 2: want his partner to know. So I was just like, okay,
Speaker 2: is this something that like if your partner find out,
Speaker 2: he would feel bad? How many times have you done
Speaker 2: this in the years that you've been with this person
Speaker 2: in the times that you've done this. By the end
Speaker 2: of your experience, do you leave it feeling really good
Speaker 2: about yourself or do you leave it feeling awful?
Speaker 1: Do you like the feeling? Yes?
Speaker 2: And I kind of I was like determined by the
Speaker 2: end of it to break it no for him to
Speaker 2: be for I was like, I want you to leave
Speaker 2: my apartment feeling really good about what just happened, and
Speaker 2: like he kind of was like, wow, I really didn't
Speaker 2: expect to have this conversation. So I was like, you know,
Speaker 2: I was like, I'm really not mood. Fuck, but I'm
Speaker 2: glad we're having this conversation. We're cuddling and making out
Speaker 2: and stuff got to thirty minutes later, he fucks.
Speaker 1: The fucking shit out of me. It's so good.
Speaker 2: We like really connect and I was just like, Okay, well,
Speaker 2: I'm really down to hang out with you again, but like,
Speaker 2: I really want you to think about the things that
Speaker 2: we've talked about, and he was like sure. The next day,
Speaker 2: he calls me on the way to wherever he's going
Speaker 2: to meet with his partner and whoever, and he was like,
Speaker 2: I want to say I had a really good time
Speaker 2: with you. That was really good. That was really a
Speaker 2: good time. And also I'm going to talk with my partner.
Speaker 2: He was like, you planted some really healthy seeds and.
Speaker 1: I thought, so good. Yeah, I feel.
Speaker 2: Really good about it. And also I want him to
Speaker 2: come back, and I wanted.
Speaker 1: To feel I wonder I want to follow up, you
Speaker 1: want to follow up? Okay, if it happens again, yeah,
Speaker 1: I want to hear what.
Speaker 2: If anything, Let me ask you this. If he comes
Speaker 2: back and he's like I didn't have the conversation with
Speaker 2: my partner, or he did and it didn't go well,
Speaker 2: but I still want to come over and see you.
Speaker 2: Is this in a morally questionable or ambiguous place for
Speaker 2: me to continue occasionally seeing this person?
Speaker 1: What do you think? I mean, it's up to him.
Speaker 1: He could also I mean, he could also lie to you.
Speaker 1: You can also be like, well that's true.
Speaker 2: But I mean, I know we talked a lot about
Speaker 2: on this podcast about like cheating as a construct, right,
Speaker 2: and like it's really like not my business if this
Speaker 2: person wants to engage in that way. But I know
Speaker 2: that maybe there We're probably going to have some listeners
Speaker 2: who hear what I'm saying and think like if I
Speaker 2: am complicit and perpetuating in this person's essentially lying to
Speaker 2: his partner, Am I a bad person?
Speaker 1: It just depends on if you care. You seem like
Speaker 1: I know you pretty well, like you would feel bad
Speaker 1: about it.
Speaker 2: I just the thing is, I think I think secrets
Speaker 2: are fun. So I think secrets are fun, and I
Speaker 2: and I think it's okay to have secrets sometimes. However,
Speaker 2: like the other thing was like this, this person seemed
Speaker 2: to be a little bit tortured by what he was doing,
Speaker 2: even though he was enjoying it very much. And I
Speaker 2: feel like that partly was the seem like you.
Speaker 1: Opened up a thought, which I'm very gladly think about
Speaker 1: it because he's probably used to just doing it, and
Speaker 1: like because he wants to, well, he can't talk to
Speaker 1: his partner about it because his partner would get upset.
Speaker 2: Well, and maybe and maybe that's part of the appeal
Speaker 2: for him, is like most of the times when he's
Speaker 2: had these hookups, he's kept it to himself. He hasn't
Speaker 2: talked to this because you know, he doesn't come into
Speaker 2: somebody with a fucking therapy background who asked them all
Speaker 2: these questions, So he doesn't he doesn't.
Speaker 1: Really even go there.
Speaker 2: He just has you know, illicit sex with some stranger
Speaker 2: and then leaves feeling like a horrible person.
Speaker 1: Yeah. But here's my thing. I'm like, I think secrets
Speaker 1: are fun. Like I don't get couples that only play together. Yeah.
Speaker 1: That I'm like, because sometimes you just want your own
Speaker 1: experience with somebody. Yes, And I'm like, I don't want
Speaker 1: my partner to be there if we only play together, right,
Speaker 1: I'm like, I want to just do this with this
Speaker 1: other person. Well, which is why I love a fucking
Speaker 1: open relationship. I'm so glad I'm in one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I actually we yes yesterday the day before
Speaker 2: I ended up had a pool party and like met
Speaker 2: somebody with a friend of ours, somebody I've hooked up
Speaker 2: with and he's definitely made out with at a parties,
Speaker 2: and the chemistry was just right, and we were like
Speaker 2: in the pool and like, you know, we were just
Speaker 2: like should we go around that? You know my boyfriend
Speaker 2: lived like two blocks away, and We're like should we
Speaker 2: just go and have a moment? And it was so
Speaker 2: much fun. And after we were done having our like
Speaker 2: posts like wow, this was great moment. I full on
Speaker 2: was like, well, I've had a moment alone with this person.
Speaker 2: You haven't. I highly recommend it. I was just like,
Speaker 2: I just want you guys both to know while I'm
Speaker 2: in the room, please have a moment alone.
Speaker 1: I know we got to wrap up.
Speaker 2: Is there anything that you wanted to talk about that
Speaker 2: we can get to I know, I think, I mean,
Speaker 2: Cole's got to get to work, y'all.
Speaker 1: Work, people, people being one massages, nothing, We're good, you
Speaker 1: know what. It'll just give us more to talk about
Speaker 1: next time. Talk about this. This was us testing the waters. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like the look of it and everything. I also think, hi, yo,
Speaker 1: well this has been. It's been. Sorry for asking.
Speaker 2: I'm I'm Adam Ramsey. Thanks you guys so much for
Speaker 2: tuning in. See guys next time, see you next time. Bye,
Speaker 2: this has been. Sorry for asking.
Speaker 1: Be sure to like, comment and subscribe, and until next time,
Speaker 1: stay sexy.