WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.360 --> 00:00:03.720 It's been a wild, wild seventy two hours in the 2 00:00:03.720 --> 00:00:06.679 world of pro basketball, and obviously with the Jazz being 3 00:00:06.679 --> 00:00:09.519 as active as they've been, that has dominated much of 4 00:00:09.519 --> 00:00:10.720 the conversation today. 5 00:00:10.759 --> 00:00:12.119 And we'll get back to it later on. 6 00:00:12.720 --> 00:00:15.759 But I believe there's an American football game on Sunday, 7 00:00:15.800 --> 00:00:18.000 Porter that we have not talked about yet. I haven't 8 00:00:18.079 --> 00:00:20.079 checked the schedule, but is out your understanding as well? 9 00:00:20.160 --> 00:00:23.359 That is that is the case, of course, I think 10 00:00:23.559 --> 00:00:26.120 like ten hours of it you can hear on this 11 00:00:26.359 --> 00:00:29.760 here radio station if you don't happen to be down 12 00:00:29.800 --> 00:00:32.640 in the city of New Orleans, like our next guest. 13 00:00:32.719 --> 00:00:34.920 Yes, indeed, super Bowl fifty nine and the Big Easy 14 00:00:34.960 --> 00:00:37.520 Our next guest, Sean Sayed from Sumer Sports, good enough 15 00:00:37.560 --> 00:00:38.799 to give us some time on a Thursday. 16 00:00:38.840 --> 00:00:40.439 Sean, Happy Thursday, sir. How are you. 17 00:00:41.320 --> 00:00:43.079 I'm doing really well. It's been a lot of fun 18 00:00:43.079 --> 00:00:45.079 to be down in New Orleans. You know, on Radio 19 00:00:45.200 --> 00:00:47.079 Row you got all these former players, you got all 20 00:00:47.079 --> 00:00:49.719 these current players, all talking about a game that I 21 00:00:49.719 --> 00:00:51.600 think is going to be a lot of fun on Sunday. 22 00:00:52.079 --> 00:00:54.079 I agree with you. I agree with you. So here's 23 00:00:54.079 --> 00:00:56.320 what we'll do. I'm gonna ask you the question this way, 24 00:00:56.439 --> 00:00:59.240 right out of the gates. The Philadelphia Eagles win Super 25 00:00:59.240 --> 00:01:02.960 Bowl fifteen, if what, Sean, If. 26 00:01:02.840 --> 00:01:04.760 Jalen Hurts is able to make three throws. I think 27 00:01:04.799 --> 00:01:06.400 that is really what it's going to come down to. 28 00:01:06.560 --> 00:01:08.879 Where we've seen how Jalen Hurts has played in the 29 00:01:08.879 --> 00:01:11.879 Super Bowl previously. We've seen Jalen Hurts play his best 30 00:01:11.920 --> 00:01:14.560 game of maybe the last two seasons against the Commanders, 31 00:01:14.599 --> 00:01:17.120 and I think they're gonna find themselves in a situation 32 00:01:17.200 --> 00:01:19.120 where they are able to run the ball on that 33 00:01:19.200 --> 00:01:21.799 Kansas City defense the way the Buffalo Bill's were able 34 00:01:21.799 --> 00:01:23.760 to run the ball on them. And you think about 35 00:01:23.760 --> 00:01:26.239 the Eagles defense against the bill are compared with the 36 00:01:26.239 --> 00:01:28.840 Bills defense. Evel's defense is better and the Bill's defense 37 00:01:28.879 --> 00:01:31.400 made the stops they needed to potentially win that game. 38 00:01:31.599 --> 00:01:33.719 So for me, it really just comes down to I 39 00:01:33.719 --> 00:01:35.719 need three good throws from Jalen Hursts and the Eagles 40 00:01:35.760 --> 00:01:37.079 fans are going to go home real happy. 41 00:01:37.239 --> 00:01:37.439 Man. 42 00:01:37.480 --> 00:01:39.920 I think you can get three good throws from Jalen Hurts, 43 00:01:39.959 --> 00:01:42.280 can't you. That doesn't seem like too much to ask, Sean. 44 00:01:42.920 --> 00:01:44.760 You know, I certainly think so. I think maybe three 45 00:01:44.760 --> 00:01:47.159 good throws in the biggest moment on the last late 46 00:01:47.239 --> 00:01:48.959 drives in the fourth quarter, so make it maybe a 47 00:01:48.959 --> 00:01:51.519 little bit more specific. I do think the Chiefs are 48 00:01:51.519 --> 00:01:53.120 going to do a good job of instead of just 49 00:01:53.120 --> 00:01:55.159 playing a ton of man coverage and letting you play 50 00:01:55.200 --> 00:01:57.200 one on one with aj Brown, They're going to get 51 00:01:57.239 --> 00:01:59.719 into some of their more funky zone pressure looks. For 52 00:01:59.840 --> 00:02:01.599 her is going to have to think a second or 53 00:02:01.640 --> 00:02:03.879 a third time, and you know, if you're not able 54 00:02:03.879 --> 00:02:05.959 to make some of those tight window decisions, it's going 55 00:02:06.040 --> 00:02:07.280 to be a tough day for the Eagles. 56 00:02:07.359 --> 00:02:10.520 The Kansas City Chiefs win Super Bowl fifty nine sean 57 00:02:10.719 --> 00:02:12.759 if what I think. 58 00:02:12.719 --> 00:02:14.599 As long as they're not beating themselves. You know, the 59 00:02:14.919 --> 00:02:17.800 Chiefs this season, it's been an interesting ride where earlier 60 00:02:17.840 --> 00:02:20.599 in the year no some struggles, but as of late, 61 00:02:20.639 --> 00:02:22.319 I think they've done a good job getting the ball 62 00:02:22.319 --> 00:02:24.400 out quick. I think that a big thing in this 63 00:02:24.439 --> 00:02:26.240 game is going to be if their offensive line is 64 00:02:26.280 --> 00:02:29.120 beating themselves. Where you have Milton Williams or Dalen Carter 65 00:02:29.280 --> 00:02:31.560 over that left guard spot, you have Jawan Taylor at 66 00:02:31.599 --> 00:02:33.639 the right tackle spot, where you might have some issues 67 00:02:33.879 --> 00:02:36.159 with Nolan Smith so I think did they play their 68 00:02:36.159 --> 00:02:38.000 game in the way that they have been able to 69 00:02:38.000 --> 00:02:40.360 play over the last few weeks as they've been you know, 70 00:02:40.479 --> 00:02:43.120 removing the stench of, oh, this team is just not good, 71 00:02:43.159 --> 00:02:45.680 even though they keep winning games. I think it really is, 72 00:02:45.759 --> 00:02:48.080 you know, if things favor them and they have to 73 00:02:48.120 --> 00:02:49.199 be able to play a clink game. 74 00:02:49.400 --> 00:02:52.120 Read earlier today, you know, Vic Fangio causes a lot 75 00:02:52.120 --> 00:02:54.400 of chaos for a lot of teams, a lot of quarterbacks. 76 00:02:54.439 --> 00:02:57.159 But I read that Mahomes is eight and oh against him, 77 00:02:57.159 --> 00:02:59.000 which I did not know until this morning. 78 00:02:59.240 --> 00:03:00.439 What does that say to you? Sean? 79 00:03:01.360 --> 00:03:03.639 You know what, when you look at it at the surface, 80 00:03:03.719 --> 00:03:05.400 it's like, oh wow, that is a really big eye 81 00:03:05.439 --> 00:03:07.599 popping thing. But when you dig a little bit deeper, 82 00:03:07.639 --> 00:03:09.919 you look back to while he was with the Broncos. 83 00:03:10.000 --> 00:03:11.319 You look at who are the quarterback of some of 84 00:03:11.360 --> 00:03:13.599 those Broncos teams? You see that, you know, you take 85 00:03:13.639 --> 00:03:15.800 out some special teams touchdowns. He's only letting up like 86 00:03:15.800 --> 00:03:17.680 twenty points a game in a lot of those situations. 87 00:03:17.719 --> 00:03:19.919 I think you'd probably be happy that with that for 88 00:03:20.080 --> 00:03:21.680 the Eagles. If be thinking back to last year when 89 00:03:21.680 --> 00:03:24.199 Fanjo was with the Dolphins. I thought that international game 90 00:03:24.400 --> 00:03:26.240 and you had a really good game plan for dealing 91 00:03:26.280 --> 00:03:28.960 with Travis Kelsey, finding ways to bracket him from both 92 00:03:29.000 --> 00:03:31.080 sides and really take him out of the game at 93 00:03:31.080 --> 00:03:33.319 a few different moments. So for me, you know, I 94 00:03:33.560 --> 00:03:36.120 hear that, I see that. I think this Eagles defense 95 00:03:36.159 --> 00:03:37.960 is so much more talented than some of the teams 96 00:03:37.960 --> 00:03:40.400 that he's played with. I think that the Eagles offense 97 00:03:40.479 --> 00:03:42.360 is also going to be able to keep up in 98 00:03:42.360 --> 00:03:45.080 a way that some of those offenses that Fanjo had 99 00:03:45.560 --> 00:03:47.919 on side of him just they weren't able to do it. 100 00:03:47.960 --> 00:03:50.280 So it's a big one. I think it maybe gives 101 00:03:50.280 --> 00:03:52.080 Fanjo a little bit of extra fuel for this game. 102 00:03:52.759 --> 00:03:54.919 A lot of people have surmised, not just this week, 103 00:03:54.960 --> 00:03:57.240 but over the course of really the entire season that 104 00:03:57.280 --> 00:04:00.439 Howie Roseman has built the best roster in all of 105 00:04:00.520 --> 00:04:02.800 pro football. I wonder, Sean, do you agree with that 106 00:04:02.960 --> 00:04:04.960 and does the best roster mean that you have the 107 00:04:05.000 --> 00:04:05.879 best team? 108 00:04:06.680 --> 00:04:08.639 I absolutely agree with it. I think it's it's even 109 00:04:08.680 --> 00:04:11.039 further than that, where he's really the guy that hired Fanjium. 110 00:04:11.159 --> 00:04:14.039 That's a huge thing for to bring that in there, 111 00:04:14.039 --> 00:04:15.919 and you look up and down the roster where I 112 00:04:15.960 --> 00:04:18.120 mean how he kind of almost wished a little bit 113 00:04:18.160 --> 00:04:20.000 on that Bright Tugh pick so far, at least for 114 00:04:20.000 --> 00:04:23.199 one year sort of the signing there, and you're still 115 00:04:23.240 --> 00:04:25.959 able to hit on all these players like a Zach 116 00:04:26.040 --> 00:04:28.920 Bond in that situation, like Quinn i Mental, like Cooper Deugi, 117 00:04:29.000 --> 00:04:31.199 and so that's been super positive for Howard Roseman. I 118 00:04:31.240 --> 00:04:33.560 do think it's the best roster in the NFL. Caley, 119 00:04:33.600 --> 00:04:35.759 I do think it's the best team in the NFL 120 00:04:35.800 --> 00:04:37.399 as well. I think they are better than the chief 121 00:04:37.439 --> 00:04:40.399 want to be able to see on Sunday. The problem is, 122 00:04:40.439 --> 00:04:42.920 as everyone knows, you have Patrick Mahonmes and Andy Reid 123 00:04:43.079 --> 00:04:44.199 on the other sideline. 124 00:04:44.399 --> 00:04:47.439 Is this the best team the Chiefs have played during 125 00:04:47.480 --> 00:04:49.839 this great Mahomes Andy Reid super Bowl run? 126 00:04:49.920 --> 00:04:52.600 In the Super Bowl, you know that is a good 127 00:04:52.600 --> 00:04:54.920 one that of course, the Buccaneers team that they lost 128 00:04:54.959 --> 00:04:57.879 to was a really really good team. So I think 129 00:04:57.920 --> 00:04:59.480 that is the one that you're kind of going up 130 00:04:59.480 --> 00:05:02.360 against with Buck had such fun on defense. Although from 131 00:05:02.519 --> 00:05:04.800 just a roster up and down perspective, I think it's 132 00:05:04.839 --> 00:05:08.120 the best constructive roster. It's just against like that quarterback. 133 00:05:08.160 --> 00:05:10.519 I feel like I lean towards rather having Tom Brady 134 00:05:10.720 --> 00:05:12.879 even with the Buccaneers, than Jalen Hurds with the Eagle. 135 00:05:13.399 --> 00:05:14.959 Is there a coaching mismatch? 136 00:05:15.000 --> 00:05:17.160 You know, Andy Reid played his college ball locally here 137 00:05:17.199 --> 00:05:19.279 at Brigha, me On about forty miles south as the 138 00:05:19.319 --> 00:05:21.959 Crow flies, and he has a chance to put himself 139 00:05:21.959 --> 00:05:24.720 on a very very short list. And you know, as 140 00:05:24.959 --> 00:05:28.000 as we referenced, it does seem like Nick Sirianni the 141 00:05:28.560 --> 00:05:31.360 narrative surrounding him, as he has the best roster in football, 142 00:05:31.399 --> 00:05:33.040 and there's a lot of questions about whether or not 143 00:05:33.079 --> 00:05:35.399 he's the type of coach they can go head to 144 00:05:35.439 --> 00:05:37.360 head against Andy in a game like this. Do you 145 00:05:37.360 --> 00:05:39.600 feel like there's a coaching mismatch on Sunday? 146 00:05:40.519 --> 00:05:42.600 I do think that. You know, you'd certainly rather have 147 00:05:42.839 --> 00:05:44.800 Andy Reid. At the same time, in the last time 148 00:05:45.040 --> 00:05:47.439 that these guys played, in that Super Bowl two years ago, 149 00:05:47.920 --> 00:05:50.240 Sirianni had a fourth down decision where he ended up 150 00:05:50.399 --> 00:05:52.480 hunting instead of going for it. I think sirian is 151 00:05:52.519 --> 00:05:53.800 going to learn from that. I think he's going to 152 00:05:53.879 --> 00:05:56.040 be pretty aggressive in this game and put them in 153 00:05:56.040 --> 00:05:58.639 an advantageous situation. And I mean you know, whatever you 154 00:05:58.639 --> 00:06:00.959 think of Sirianni, he just keeps on finding ways to 155 00:06:01.000 --> 00:06:03.680 win these games. It does seem like there's some intangible 156 00:06:03.759 --> 00:06:06.439 value with how he has players associating to each other 157 00:06:06.439 --> 00:06:08.399 in the locker room and finding comfort in that way. 158 00:06:08.480 --> 00:06:11.000 So even if I would probably prefer to have Andy 159 00:06:11.000 --> 00:06:13.079 Reid just in terms of what he brings to a 160 00:06:13.079 --> 00:06:15.360 football team, it feels like Sirianni is still the right 161 00:06:15.399 --> 00:06:16.600 guy for this Eagles roster. 162 00:06:16.759 --> 00:06:18.160 I'm not going to ask you if this is the 163 00:06:18.199 --> 00:06:21.759 best Chiefs team that we've seen with Mahomes and Red 164 00:06:21.839 --> 00:06:24.399 in this run, but I will ask you to characterize 165 00:06:24.399 --> 00:06:27.360 what type of team you believe it to be. You know, 166 00:06:27.399 --> 00:06:30.560 what's a perlative adjective? Is it wildly? Is it veteran? 167 00:06:30.680 --> 00:06:32.560 Is it crafty? I don't think it's the best and 168 00:06:32.600 --> 00:06:35.639 most talented, But what is your opinion on the type 169 00:06:35.680 --> 00:06:37.480 of team this version of the Chiefs are. 170 00:06:38.319 --> 00:06:41.319 It is a brutally efficient team. It really is, where 171 00:06:41.120 --> 00:06:43.800 these third downs that they just keep on finding ways 172 00:06:43.800 --> 00:06:45.639 to convert the other teams are not able to. 173 00:06:46.000 --> 00:06:46.399 It is. 174 00:06:46.639 --> 00:06:49.319 It's brutal. But as a defense looking at it and thinking, 175 00:06:49.360 --> 00:06:51.839 oh man, you haven't been a positive situation and ma 176 00:06:51.879 --> 00:06:53.480 homes to be able to figure it out. So that's 177 00:06:53.519 --> 00:06:55.399 the really way that I think about them on offense. 178 00:06:55.519 --> 00:06:58.199 On defense, I do think they're pretty opportunistic where you're 179 00:06:58.240 --> 00:07:00.519 going to get some weird bliss look like Josh Allen 180 00:07:00.560 --> 00:07:03.000 face on that last fourth down in the AFTY Championship game, 181 00:07:03.160 --> 00:07:04.560 and if you're not able to block it up, if 182 00:07:04.600 --> 00:07:06.439 you're not able to be comfortable, you are not going 183 00:07:06.480 --> 00:07:07.439 to be able to win that game. 184 00:07:08.439 --> 00:07:13.319 So you know, the noise around Jalen is fair and understandable, 185 00:07:13.360 --> 00:07:15.680 but it's also somewhat interesting. When these two teams played 186 00:07:15.680 --> 00:07:17.160 in the Super Bowl a couple of years ago, he 187 00:07:17.560 --> 00:07:20.519 counted for like three hundred and seventy five yards and 188 00:07:20.800 --> 00:07:23.240 four touchdowns, three hundred and four yards through the air. 189 00:07:24.439 --> 00:07:26.199 And for me, and I want you to break this 190 00:07:26.240 --> 00:07:29.199 down for me, Sean, it just feels like they just 191 00:07:29.360 --> 00:07:32.680 prefer to play the way that they've played and they 192 00:07:32.720 --> 00:07:35.399 don't need or want him to go for three point 193 00:07:35.439 --> 00:07:38.000 fifty and fourth. They would like that, I'm not sure. 194 00:07:38.040 --> 00:07:39.800 I'm not sure it's you know, safe to say they 195 00:07:39.800 --> 00:07:43.120 wouldn't want that. But are the criticisms of him a 196 00:07:43.120 --> 00:07:46.879 little unfair based off of just the dominant ground game 197 00:07:46.959 --> 00:07:49.839 they have, or are there things to really criticize Jalen 198 00:07:49.879 --> 00:07:50.800 Hurts about. 199 00:07:51.040 --> 00:07:53.600 I think when we look at just quarterbacks in general, 200 00:07:53.680 --> 00:07:56.120 you know, everyone has their ideal type of quarterbacks. Some 201 00:07:56.160 --> 00:07:58.600 people like the old school drop back that kind of quarterbacks. 202 00:07:58.639 --> 00:08:01.000 Some people want a quarterback back to move around. I 203 00:08:01.000 --> 00:08:02.680 think a lot of times we look at it as 204 00:08:02.800 --> 00:08:05.319 when the clock is kicking down, are you going to 205 00:08:05.399 --> 00:08:07.600 lead an offense down the field through the air. And 206 00:08:07.680 --> 00:08:09.600 Hurts has not had to do that this season. You know, 207 00:08:09.600 --> 00:08:12.000 there's just been times where you can find a huge 208 00:08:12.000 --> 00:08:14.639 explosive run from Saquon Barkley. I do think some of 209 00:08:14.639 --> 00:08:16.839 the criticisms that I feel a little bit better are 210 00:08:16.839 --> 00:08:20.199 the ones where you know it is Jalen throwing into 211 00:08:20.199 --> 00:08:22.319 tight windows. But at the same time it feels like 212 00:08:22.639 --> 00:08:25.040 that Kellen Moore, as often as the coordinator has prioritized 213 00:08:25.120 --> 00:08:26.639 just don't turn the ball over. We're going to be 214 00:08:26.680 --> 00:08:29.240 able to run over teams. If we throw interceptions, we're 215 00:08:29.240 --> 00:08:30.879 going to be sent back. And I keep and I 216 00:08:31.000 --> 00:08:33.840 watched the film the entire season. I keep out picking 217 00:08:33.840 --> 00:08:36.159 out specific moments you throw an inbreaker into his own 218 00:08:36.200 --> 00:08:39.000 coverage against the Ravens, were able to make successful throws 219 00:08:39.039 --> 00:08:41.519 against the Commanders, and so he has it in him. 220 00:08:41.559 --> 00:08:43.080 I know he has it in him, and I would 221 00:08:43.120 --> 00:08:44.600 love for us to just see all the Super Bowl 222 00:08:44.679 --> 00:08:47.559 team again. Where As he said, he's done it once before, 223 00:08:47.799 --> 00:08:49.399 just not in a win. If he's able to do 224 00:08:49.440 --> 00:08:50.960 it again, he's able to win that game. I think 225 00:08:51.000 --> 00:08:54.360 it really changes the way that people look at Jalen Hurts. 226 00:08:54.000 --> 00:08:55.080 The saquan of fact. 227 00:08:55.279 --> 00:08:57.759 You know, I always push back on narratives that seem 228 00:08:57.799 --> 00:09:02.000 to seep into kind of unani feel and the whole like, hey, 229 00:09:02.000 --> 00:09:04.519 the running back position is dead. No it's not, and 230 00:09:04.559 --> 00:09:06.519 the whole like, hey, the running back position is back. 231 00:09:06.600 --> 00:09:07.799 No, it never went anywhere. 232 00:09:07.840 --> 00:09:11.639 But when you have the elite guys, the Dereck Henry's, 233 00:09:11.679 --> 00:09:14.360 the Saquon Barkley's, there will always be a place for 234 00:09:14.480 --> 00:09:16.639 elite backs and there's always room at the top. I 235 00:09:16.639 --> 00:09:19.639 think that's an old James Webster quote or something. But 236 00:09:19.799 --> 00:09:22.360 what is the Saquon Barkley effect? To break this down 237 00:09:22.399 --> 00:09:24.759 for us? Because Super Bowl a couple of years ago, 238 00:09:24.840 --> 00:09:27.480 Miles Sanders, Boston Scott, but most of the rushing came 239 00:09:27.519 --> 00:09:31.320 from Jalen and obviously the Saquon effect changes them. How 240 00:09:31.360 --> 00:09:33.759 do you articulate what the Saquon Barkley effect is. 241 00:09:34.799 --> 00:09:37.200 Saquon Barkley is a home run hitter. There are going 242 00:09:37.240 --> 00:09:39.559 to be times where he hit singles and he hits doubles, 243 00:09:39.559 --> 00:09:41.399 but it feels like, you know, Barry Bonds during his 244 00:09:41.440 --> 00:09:44.639 record seven run It's just so hard to contain him 245 00:09:44.720 --> 00:09:47.200 snap after snap where you know you want to stuff 246 00:09:47.240 --> 00:09:48.720 the box, you want to have a bunch of players 247 00:09:48.759 --> 00:09:50.720 there and you're that line of scrimmage. If he breaks 248 00:09:50.720 --> 00:09:53.279 your first level, he's just gone. So for him to 249 00:09:53.279 --> 00:09:56.480 be that level of player in a just part of 250 00:09:56.600 --> 00:09:59.200 NFL history where look, it is a passing leap, you 251 00:09:59.320 --> 00:10:01.919 win games by passing the ball. But the Eagles have 252 00:10:02.039 --> 00:10:04.200 such a good offensive line, they have such a good 253 00:10:04.279 --> 00:10:06.320 run game that they don't always need it. And it's 254 00:10:06.360 --> 00:10:08.519 just the entire season has been a back and forth. 255 00:10:08.559 --> 00:10:09.960 Are they going to be able to figure out? Are 256 00:10:09.960 --> 00:10:11.559 they going to be able to figure out? Kind of 257 00:10:11.600 --> 00:10:13.879 doesn't matter up until this point because they're here, but 258 00:10:13.919 --> 00:10:15.559 they are going to have to, I think figure it out. 259 00:10:15.600 --> 00:10:18.120 At least one time against the Kansas City Chiefs. 260 00:10:18.000 --> 00:10:21.399 He did not break Eric Dickerdson's single season record probably 261 00:10:21.440 --> 00:10:23.120 could have but sat out of the final game, but 262 00:10:23.159 --> 00:10:25.799 he is thirty yards away from breaking Tell Davis's single 263 00:10:25.840 --> 00:10:28.639 season record for combined rushing yards in the regular season 264 00:10:28.679 --> 00:10:32.240 and the playoffs. John, if he goes for one hundred 265 00:10:32.320 --> 00:10:35.519 plus and they win, is there a case to be 266 00:10:35.559 --> 00:10:38.000 made that we've just witnessed the greatest season from a 267 00:10:38.039 --> 00:10:39.720 running back in the history of pro football. 268 00:10:40.440 --> 00:10:43.159 I think there's a really strong case. And absolutely I 269 00:10:43.159 --> 00:10:45.440 think what I would say, even though I understand you know, 270 00:10:45.480 --> 00:10:47.720 it's not the regular season record. It is maybe one 271 00:10:47.840 --> 00:10:49.919 or two more games, just based on having more games 272 00:10:49.919 --> 00:10:55.000 in the regular season. This offense is successful because say, 273 00:10:55.039 --> 00:10:58.679 Kuon Barkley makes incredible cuts in really tight spaces. He's 274 00:10:58.960 --> 00:11:02.120 such a large physical force. Get like you see him 275 00:11:02.120 --> 00:11:04.080 moving around, but the way that he is so nimble 276 00:11:04.159 --> 00:11:07.039 in those short areas, that's been so so fun. We 277 00:11:07.080 --> 00:11:08.919 are just so lucky to see it. And look when 278 00:11:08.919 --> 00:11:10.639 you look at the last I mean ten to fifteen 279 00:11:10.679 --> 00:11:12.639 super Bowls, not a ton of guys are going over 280 00:11:12.679 --> 00:11:14.879 one hundred rushing arts. But I would like nothing more 281 00:11:14.919 --> 00:11:16.919 than a see Saekwon go for one fifty and then 282 00:11:17.039 --> 00:11:19.360 him being the one that's raising that Super Bowl MVP trophy. 283 00:11:19.480 --> 00:11:22.759 Steve Spagnolo deservedly so has received a lot of credit 284 00:11:22.879 --> 00:11:26.000 for this iteration of the Chiefs run with the defense 285 00:11:26.039 --> 00:11:28.159 being as dominant, if not more so, at times than 286 00:11:28.200 --> 00:11:32.159 the offense. Tell me, Sean how the Chiefs defense, either 287 00:11:32.200 --> 00:11:35.279 personnel or schematically, how did they go about their business 288 00:11:35.279 --> 00:11:37.759 of trying to limit this this ground game in Saquon Barkley. 289 00:11:38.600 --> 00:11:40.879 I think you you know, you throw resources out the problem, 290 00:11:40.919 --> 00:11:43.039 You put a bunch of big bodies inside. You try 291 00:11:43.080 --> 00:11:45.120 and force them. You know, maybe you you know, if 292 00:11:45.120 --> 00:11:46.799 it's a read type play you forced you on. It 293 00:11:46.879 --> 00:11:48.279 hurts to be the one to keep it. You do 294 00:11:48.320 --> 00:11:50.600 what you can to prevent Saquon from having that sort 295 00:11:50.639 --> 00:11:54.000 of attacking vertical style. I think the tough part is, though, 296 00:11:54.000 --> 00:11:56.840 you also have to worry about Devonte Smith and Arian Brown. 297 00:11:56.919 --> 00:11:58.799 So if you want to keep you know, two I safties, 298 00:11:58.799 --> 00:12:00.519 you want to keep up as the cornerback out there. 299 00:12:00.559 --> 00:12:02.279 Now you only have seven players in the boss. That 300 00:12:02.360 --> 00:12:04.360 might be a situation where I would like to be 301 00:12:04.399 --> 00:12:06.440 Eagles to attack Chris Jones a little bit in the 302 00:12:06.519 --> 00:12:08.519 run game early on, you know, see how many stats, 303 00:12:08.559 --> 00:12:10.639 he wants to keep up playing, see how is he 304 00:12:10.720 --> 00:12:12.399 going to have the stamina late in the game to 305 00:12:12.480 --> 00:12:14.360 be able to rush the passers. So, you know, I 306 00:12:14.360 --> 00:12:17.480 don't love the matchup, particularly from that run game perspective, 307 00:12:17.519 --> 00:12:19.480 but I think when you get to those passes situations, 308 00:12:19.720 --> 00:12:21.759 that's when things start to turn a little bit more. 309 00:12:21.799 --> 00:12:25.600 For the chief reference the record that Mahomes has against Fangio, 310 00:12:25.720 --> 00:12:27.600 you were good to kind of dig a little bit 311 00:12:27.639 --> 00:12:29.960 deeper as to what that is all about and what 312 00:12:30.080 --> 00:12:32.159 has impressed me the most, Sean, and then I'll kind 313 00:12:32.159 --> 00:12:35.000 of see the time to you about the Mahomes evolution 314 00:12:35.159 --> 00:12:37.759 or growth or what has what have you is just 315 00:12:37.840 --> 00:12:40.279 his ability to be cerebral and figure out what that 316 00:12:40.320 --> 00:12:43.240 game needs and bring it during that game, simply just 317 00:12:43.240 --> 00:12:46.200 to win, even if it's three zero, like it doesn't 318 00:12:46.200 --> 00:12:49.919 matter to them. But does VIC Fangio do something different 319 00:12:49.960 --> 00:12:52.039 this time around, because it does feel like it's a 320 00:12:52.080 --> 00:12:54.000 little bit of a pick your poison, Like what what 321 00:12:54.159 --> 00:12:57.039 do you try to take away if you're VIC Fangio 322 00:12:57.120 --> 00:12:58.799 to at least make Mahomes uncomfortable. 323 00:13:00.120 --> 00:13:01.480 I think a big thing is going to be those 324 00:13:01.519 --> 00:13:03.480 throws over the middle of the field. Those throws in 325 00:13:03.519 --> 00:13:06.759 the flat area kind of shallots the outside where save 326 00:13:06.799 --> 00:13:09.360 You're Worthy has been so much more successful. At this 327 00:13:09.440 --> 00:13:11.039 point in the season, I do think you're going to 328 00:13:11.080 --> 00:13:12.879 get a game where the Chiefs are throwing the ball 329 00:13:12.919 --> 00:13:15.440 relatively quickly. So they've done that more recently because their 330 00:13:15.480 --> 00:13:18.559 offensive line, you know, it just has some tight, tough 331 00:13:18.600 --> 00:13:21.840 situations up there. I think for Fangio, as he's continued 332 00:13:21.919 --> 00:13:23.840 to evolve this year, you know, if you played, he's 333 00:13:23.840 --> 00:13:25.440 playing a little bit of a different coverage than what 334 00:13:25.480 --> 00:13:28.559 he's used to, and so I love that growth, even 335 00:13:28.600 --> 00:13:31.320 in like whatever, you're forty to five of this guy's 336 00:13:31.320 --> 00:13:33.759 coaching career, But it feels like you're gonna have situations 337 00:13:33.759 --> 00:13:36.039 where Eagles Dv's just gonna be a little bit tighter. 338 00:13:36.039 --> 00:13:37.480 They're going to take a little bit of that air 339 00:13:37.639 --> 00:13:39.600 out of the coverage. They're going to be playing closer 340 00:13:39.879 --> 00:13:42.399 to those receivers. So you're forcing you know, not only 341 00:13:42.440 --> 00:13:44.200 Mahomes to make the right choice over and over, You're 342 00:13:44.240 --> 00:13:46.799 forcing the offensive line to be able to protect properly 343 00:13:47.120 --> 00:13:49.159 over and over, and then you're forcing the receivers. Where 344 00:13:49.159 --> 00:13:51.879 you've had situations this year where Zavi're Worthy just has 345 00:13:51.919 --> 00:13:53.480 one of his feet just out of bounds and it 346 00:13:53.559 --> 00:13:56.240 ends up incompletion. So it might not be oh, we 347 00:13:56.279 --> 00:13:59.440 can be Patrick Mahomes, but you should, I think, be 348 00:13:59.480 --> 00:14:01.600 able to find other spots along that roster that you're 349 00:14:01.639 --> 00:14:02.559 able to take advantage of. 350 00:14:02.679 --> 00:14:04.519 How do you think the Chiefs go about trying to 351 00:14:04.639 --> 00:14:06.840 establish their run game? You know Pacheco, I don't know 352 00:14:06.879 --> 00:14:09.720 if he's healthy or what. When he's right, he's as 353 00:14:09.799 --> 00:14:12.039 violent of a runner as there is in pro football. 354 00:14:12.039 --> 00:14:14.840 But since he came back from the injury, he just 355 00:14:14.879 --> 00:14:18.240 does not look the same. And they signed Kareem Hunts obviously, 356 00:14:18.240 --> 00:14:20.080 who was with them a number of years ago, and 357 00:14:20.480 --> 00:14:22.039 I don't know man from the eye tests over the 358 00:14:22.080 --> 00:14:25.600 past few weeks, Kareem looks like the more valid, consistent 359 00:14:25.679 --> 00:14:27.639 option out of the backfield. How do you think Kansas 360 00:14:27.679 --> 00:14:29.840 City goes about their business of trying to establish a 361 00:14:29.919 --> 00:14:30.399 run game. 362 00:14:31.320 --> 00:14:33.159 I think they're not going to try and establish a 363 00:14:33.200 --> 00:14:35.240 run game. I think they should throw the ball seventy 364 00:14:35.240 --> 00:14:38.080 five times to get the ball out quick, obviously, but 365 00:14:38.440 --> 00:14:40.000 use that as a way to replace it early on 366 00:14:40.039 --> 00:14:42.440 against the Bills. You're running those RPOs where it ends 367 00:14:42.480 --> 00:14:44.639 up as quick throws kind of over that middle of 368 00:14:44.679 --> 00:14:46.919 the field area sometimes kind of quick out to your 369 00:14:47.000 --> 00:14:49.200 right side a lot of times, because I think the 370 00:14:49.279 --> 00:14:51.919 Eagles feel pretty comfortable, you know, if the Chiefs want 371 00:14:51.919 --> 00:14:54.240 to try and run inside where the Chiefs usually have 372 00:14:54.320 --> 00:14:56.399 your left guard, your center, your right guard playing at 373 00:14:56.399 --> 00:14:58.480 a really high level, but their left card it's playing 374 00:14:58.559 --> 00:15:01.720 left tackle right now, Eagles would be more than happy 375 00:15:01.720 --> 00:15:03.799 if the Chefs are trying to kind of establish that 376 00:15:03.879 --> 00:15:05.559 run game in any way, it just doesn't feel like 377 00:15:05.720 --> 00:15:07.720 what the Kansasity's biggest strength is right now. 378 00:15:07.840 --> 00:15:10.320 Now to your point, if Kansas City does try to 379 00:15:10.360 --> 00:15:13.000 do that and they just simply have no success because 380 00:15:13.039 --> 00:15:14.960 everything is locked up, do you do you think we 381 00:15:15.000 --> 00:15:19.000 see a different approach or recalibration, because again, like I said, 382 00:15:19.039 --> 00:15:21.799 the most impressive thing to me about watching this iteration 383 00:15:21.840 --> 00:15:24.360 of the Chiefs is they seem to kind of, you know, 384 00:15:24.519 --> 00:15:28.159 be exchanging jobs. If we can use the boxing analogy 385 00:15:28.200 --> 00:15:30.639 early on and they're find a ropodope you and then 386 00:15:30.720 --> 00:15:33.559 knock you out in the tenth. So if it starts out, 387 00:15:33.639 --> 00:15:35.519 you know, Kansas City trying to do what you're saying, 388 00:15:35.720 --> 00:15:37.879 I mean, obviously they got to recalibrate and do something 389 00:15:37.879 --> 00:15:39.039 different and find more balance. 390 00:15:39.120 --> 00:15:42.720 Now, well, you know, it's a tough situation when you 391 00:15:42.759 --> 00:15:44.720 think about it. I don't think like balance has to 392 00:15:44.720 --> 00:15:46.120 be the goal for the Chiefs. I mean, I'm the 393 00:15:46.200 --> 00:15:47.559 Coran points that it is going to be the goal 394 00:15:47.639 --> 00:15:51.120 for any single offense. I think for them to use 395 00:15:51.559 --> 00:15:53.919 quick throws as sort of a replacement for their run game. 396 00:15:53.919 --> 00:15:55.720 And I'm not saying, hey, don't run the ball at all. Right, 397 00:15:55.759 --> 00:15:57.279 you want to be able to see if you're able 398 00:15:57.279 --> 00:15:59.240 to get in positive looks that the Eagles want to 399 00:15:59.240 --> 00:16:01.960 play with lighter bodies on the field overall to deal 400 00:16:02.000 --> 00:16:04.080 with the passing game. So maybe you are able to 401 00:16:04.120 --> 00:16:05.639