WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.600 --> 00:00:03.680 Welcome to the Trauma Therapists podcast. My name is gaming Person. 2 00:00:04.240 --> 00:00:07.839 I interview incredible people who've dedicated their lives to helping 3 00:00:07.879 --> 00:00:11.000 those who've been impacted by trauma. A big thank you 4 00:00:11.080 --> 00:00:14.400 to our sponsors and our guests who are supporting this show. 5 00:00:15.119 --> 00:00:19.160 So five four May two and one, our folks, welcome 6 00:00:19.160 --> 00:00:21.879 back to the podcast. Very excited to have some guests today. 7 00:00:22.000 --> 00:00:24.120 Roman Domin Roma welcome. 8 00:00:24.160 --> 00:00:27.559 Thank you so much guy for having me awesome. 9 00:00:27.879 --> 00:00:31.079 Roma is an entrepreneur and founder of Luminara, a digital 10 00:00:31.120 --> 00:00:34.880 platform designed to make energy healing and biofield therapy is 11 00:00:34.960 --> 00:00:39.640 more accessible worldwide. He created Luminara to bridge ancient healing 12 00:00:39.679 --> 00:00:44.799 practices with modern technology, curating vetted practitioners and delivering one 13 00:00:44.880 --> 00:00:49.159 to one sessions through a remote, immersive experience. His work 14 00:00:49.200 --> 00:00:51.520 is driven by a personal journey of loss, which led 15 00:00:51.600 --> 00:00:55.439 him to focus on creating spaces for healing, connection and 16 00:00:55.560 --> 00:01:00.240 transformation at scale. All right, Raman, before we get going, 17 00:01:00.280 --> 00:01:02.359 share with all listeners where you're from originally and where 18 00:01:02.359 --> 00:01:03.159 you are currently. 19 00:01:03.880 --> 00:01:09.439 I am originally from Paris, France, and I am actually 20 00:01:09.920 --> 00:01:13.200 in France right now. I'm calling from Paris, but I've 21 00:01:13.239 --> 00:01:15.319 lived ten years in Japan. That's where I met my 22 00:01:15.599 --> 00:01:18.599 British Indian wife. 23 00:01:18.760 --> 00:01:22.079 All right, so well let's jump right in here. How 24 00:01:22.359 --> 00:01:23.760 did this all begin for you? 25 00:01:25.159 --> 00:01:31.400 It started with the loss of a kid. I my 26 00:01:31.480 --> 00:01:34.799 wife and I had the chance of having a beautiful 27 00:01:34.879 --> 00:01:39.959 kid in twenty ten perfectly you know, fit. And then 28 00:01:40.079 --> 00:01:46.920 in twenty fourteen she was pregnant and doctors told us, well, 29 00:01:47.280 --> 00:01:50.480 your kid may have a problem with the kidneys, and 30 00:01:50.599 --> 00:01:57.519 actually did have kidney polcistic disease, which led all the 31 00:01:57.799 --> 00:02:01.280 neotic fluid to be absorbed by the kid and therefore 32 00:02:01.920 --> 00:02:05.000 this a little bbe boy. Raphael could only make it 33 00:02:05.000 --> 00:02:09.960 for three days and then he transitioned. That loss of 34 00:02:10.000 --> 00:02:19.360 a child was devastating, but at the same time, it 35 00:02:19.439 --> 00:02:24.439 this this grief whether a teacher was a teaching for me. 36 00:02:24.680 --> 00:02:30.360 And I've discovered the power of presence in silence during 37 00:02:30.360 --> 00:02:33.919 the funeral, And believe it or not, guy, but I 38 00:02:34.080 --> 00:02:38.759 found the beauty in that very moment of the funeral. 39 00:02:39.400 --> 00:02:43.919 I thought that we as humans can bring so much 40 00:02:44.000 --> 00:02:47.120 love and peace to each other just by holding presence, 41 00:02:47.639 --> 00:02:54.599 and that led to create Luminara, because then the power 42 00:02:54.599 --> 00:03:00.719 of silence, of meditation, the power of being together led 43 00:03:00.759 --> 00:03:04.240 me to build an app called Hilo, which is, as 44 00:03:04.280 --> 00:03:08.439 I often say, between WhatsApp and headspace, So an app 45 00:03:08.560 --> 00:03:13.120 just enabling everyone to be in presence of each other, 46 00:03:13.599 --> 00:03:15.759 just by holding the screen off your phone for thirty 47 00:03:15.800 --> 00:03:18.360 seconds in a row and having some kind of a 48 00:03:18.400 --> 00:03:20.800 mini meditation with your friend. And you could do this 49 00:03:20.879 --> 00:03:24.439 as a one to one or private gathering or public gathering. 50 00:03:25.680 --> 00:03:31.039 And then I went on creating this crazy project, then 51 00:03:31.120 --> 00:03:36.439 pitching NGOs, telling them, hey, why don't you, you know, 52 00:03:36.879 --> 00:03:39.560 have a moment of silence, a minute of silence as 53 00:03:39.599 --> 00:03:43.479 an event for your community. And of course everyone has 54 00:03:44.319 --> 00:03:47.199 time twenty four hours a day, but you could nudge 55 00:03:47.199 --> 00:03:49.479 them into giving money and that would be a very 56 00:03:49.479 --> 00:03:53.159 beautiful digital event for your community because you do charity 57 00:03:53.159 --> 00:03:58.680 auctions charity concerts. And they loved it, but I told them, well, 58 00:03:58.719 --> 00:04:01.719 you need a celebrity to endure because you know it's 59 00:04:01.719 --> 00:04:05.280 not Guy and Roman on stage for a charity concert 60 00:04:05.319 --> 00:04:07.919 that will bring a lot of money, So you need 61 00:04:07.919 --> 00:04:12.199 to celebrity also to to bring this momentum. Long story short, 62 00:04:12.360 --> 00:04:16.920 I've done one event with November in France, which was successful, 63 00:04:17.120 --> 00:04:20.959 but I was tired, and then I wanted to study 64 00:04:21.319 --> 00:04:25.439 the power of collective meditation, the power of remote healing, 65 00:04:25.480 --> 00:04:29.199 because I felt when we've for every week for a month, 66 00:04:29.920 --> 00:04:33.639 I gathered from November with a number of people and 67 00:04:34.399 --> 00:04:39.360 we were doing this this mini meditation, collective meditation. I 68 00:04:39.399 --> 00:04:44.120 happened to meet a woman early twenty twenty three that 69 00:04:44.319 --> 00:04:47.800 healed her mom in a way that was totally insane 70 00:04:47.839 --> 00:04:52.720 to me, and that led to create Luminara because she 71 00:04:53.680 --> 00:04:55.879 was not a healer. This woman, she was a normal 72 00:04:55.920 --> 00:04:59.959 person like anyone, but her mom had broken her leg 73 00:05:00.720 --> 00:05:03.959 and that was terrible for her because she was raising 74 00:05:03.959 --> 00:05:08.800 her kids. And long story short, she decided to say 75 00:05:08.839 --> 00:05:12.199 to her mom, mom, I'm going to heal you. And 76 00:05:13.279 --> 00:05:15.240 she's not a healer at all. She was in fintech, 77 00:05:15.399 --> 00:05:18.240 so she was telling me this story, very a non 78 00:05:18.279 --> 00:05:21.480 woo woo person, and she said, well, I had to 79 00:05:21.519 --> 00:05:24.000 heal my mom fast. Because she was very practical. She 80 00:05:24.040 --> 00:05:28.040 wanted to help from her room and she she did 81 00:05:28.079 --> 00:05:30.839 this protocol. She had read a couple of books around 82 00:05:31.000 --> 00:05:35.000 the power of positive realization, so you know, when you 83 00:05:35.360 --> 00:05:39.920 atleast do that, you know to in their competition. And 84 00:05:40.879 --> 00:05:43.800 she went into her mother's room and she would fill 85 00:05:43.839 --> 00:05:47.360 the room with love, light, energy and just visualizing the 86 00:05:47.439 --> 00:05:49.759 leg of her mom had broken one of her legs, 87 00:05:50.160 --> 00:05:53.000 and she would visualize it in perfect condition. And what 88 00:05:53.399 --> 00:05:55.720 was supposed to take about six to eight months took 89 00:05:55.759 --> 00:06:00.680 about three to four. Like she literally made her mom 90 00:06:00.759 --> 00:06:04.920 a lot more able to start running again, walking again, 91 00:06:05.759 --> 00:06:08.920 and that was no short of a you know, bit 92 00:06:08.959 --> 00:06:11.480 of a miracle, really, but she went on. But for 93 00:06:11.600 --> 00:06:14.920 me to receive this, this very story at that moment 94 00:06:14.959 --> 00:06:20.680 in my life was an awakening. And I felt to myself, 95 00:06:20.839 --> 00:06:25.199 wait a second, what is that? What is what are 96 00:06:25.240 --> 00:06:29.279 these years about? And I'm a businessman, so not the 97 00:06:29.360 --> 00:06:32.639 type of guy you would think would create luminara. But 98 00:06:32.759 --> 00:06:35.839 I thought, come on, let's face it, there is really something. 99 00:06:35.920 --> 00:06:38.879 It is effective. How come the world doesn't know more 100 00:06:38.879 --> 00:06:42.680 about this? And I checked and I and I was 101 00:06:42.879 --> 00:06:45.720 blown away by what I found. Like Mayo Clinic. Everyone 102 00:06:45.759 --> 00:06:50.079 knows Mayo Clinic, well, they have energy healers, they have 103 00:06:50.240 --> 00:06:54.720 reiki masters coming in for integrative oncology. You can type 104 00:06:54.759 --> 00:06:59.639 it and you'll see acupuncturists, reiki And I thought, wait 105 00:06:59.639 --> 00:07:04.519 a second, Mayo Clinic is having reiki healers on their premises. 106 00:07:04.639 --> 00:07:07.000 That's insane and then I check, oh my god, they're 107 00:07:07.040 --> 00:07:10.959 not just Mayo. There are many more and so and 108 00:07:11.000 --> 00:07:13.800 then you look at the market you think, how does 109 00:07:13.839 --> 00:07:19.360 these healers get clients? Word of Mouse for eighty nine? 110 00:07:20.480 --> 00:07:25.639 All right, now it's great, but it doesn't scale. You know, 111 00:07:25.680 --> 00:07:27.800 you're you're lucky if you know someone who knows someone. 112 00:07:27.879 --> 00:07:32.360 And then okay, a couple of marketplaces, but they're they're 113 00:07:32.399 --> 00:07:35.319 not really working for anyone except that the one running 114 00:07:35.319 --> 00:07:38.199 the marketplace. You know, you pay one hundred to fifty 115 00:07:38.240 --> 00:07:41.439 dollars to get registered. It's all of the you know, 116 00:07:41.560 --> 00:07:44.480 volume game, and it's really for them having as many 117 00:07:44.480 --> 00:07:46.800 people as possible, and there is a churn rate and 118 00:07:46.839 --> 00:07:48.639 all of that. And I thought, no, no, no, no, no, 119 00:07:49.240 --> 00:07:55.160 there's something else. Trust is the pillar of everything, but 120 00:07:55.360 --> 00:08:00.519 especially in an unregulated market. So I thought, right, this 121 00:08:00.600 --> 00:08:05.439 is this is still woo woof in many ways, but 122 00:08:05.519 --> 00:08:08.439 it's working. It's effective, and Mayo Clinic and all these 123 00:08:08.600 --> 00:08:12.040 people and science as well. So I thought, wait a second, 124 00:08:12.079 --> 00:08:14.959 and I have this very deep you know, with this 125 00:08:15.079 --> 00:08:17.480 healer I met, I had this deep belief that this 126 00:08:17.600 --> 00:08:22.920 is effective. So that's when I started to think, well, 127 00:08:22.959 --> 00:08:26.920 there is a space of a talent agency something you 128 00:08:27.000 --> 00:08:32.200 find for actor, actresses, models and artists. Like our galleries, 129 00:08:32.200 --> 00:08:36.519 they're picking up great artists. And this is not about 130 00:08:36.559 --> 00:08:39.240 the number of diploma you have, right or even musicians 131 00:08:39.279 --> 00:08:41.720 for a band. You know, no, you could have done 132 00:08:41.759 --> 00:08:43.919 the best musical schools, but you can have one kid 133 00:08:43.960 --> 00:08:47.200 who's just really gifted, and we're not going to just say, oh, 134 00:08:48.080 --> 00:08:51.279 go away, have your diploma before you come come to 135 00:08:50.840 --> 00:08:56.679 the band. So that's where I thought there is space 136 00:08:56.799 --> 00:09:07.279 for a really great way to give accessibility. So that's 137 00:09:07.480 --> 00:09:10.080 why I created Luminara Accessibility. 138 00:09:10.480 --> 00:09:12.080 Let me just let me just okay, let me just 139 00:09:12.080 --> 00:09:13.440 pause you right there. First of all, I want to 140 00:09:13.440 --> 00:09:16.279 thank you for sharing the story about your child. I mean, 141 00:09:16.399 --> 00:09:21.919 and I'm sorry for your loss. Yeah, I can't imagine 142 00:09:22.440 --> 00:09:29.600 that prior to that Roman, what were you doing, What 143 00:09:29.600 --> 00:09:30.399 were you doing. 144 00:09:32.159 --> 00:09:32.639 For work? 145 00:09:32.679 --> 00:09:35.039 What was You're an entrepreneur at that time? 146 00:09:35.159 --> 00:09:40.120 Yes, I've been consulting for sixteen years. I was working 147 00:09:40.279 --> 00:09:43.840 for a a spin off of Bain Bain, which is 148 00:09:43.840 --> 00:09:49.480 a pretty big consulting firm. I worked, yeah, sixteen years, 149 00:09:49.480 --> 00:09:53.320 and then I worked in the startup world tech tech 150 00:09:53.360 --> 00:09:58.960 startup for about four years before creating my own app 151 00:09:59.000 --> 00:10:03.080 called Hilo, this crazy app between Headspace and What's Up, 152 00:10:03.759 --> 00:10:07.600 and then Luminara two years after. So yeah, so I'm 153 00:10:07.720 --> 00:10:10.480 I'm a seasoned entrepreneur, not the type of guy that 154 00:10:10.600 --> 00:10:15.759 you would think would go into that field. Yeah, very 155 00:10:16.120 --> 00:10:21.960 you did, very very Yeah, just a businessman entrepreneur. 156 00:10:25.080 --> 00:10:30.559 In in the wake of your daughter's passing, you talked 157 00:10:30.600 --> 00:10:35.279 about the power of presence. Where did that come from? 158 00:10:35.399 --> 00:10:38.399 Was that something that you were practicing prior to that, 159 00:10:39.720 --> 00:10:41.039 something you were aware of. 160 00:10:43.279 --> 00:10:50.240 I'll tell you, guy, when when you you have no 161 00:10:50.360 --> 00:10:53.720 I had a busy life. I had a busy life, successful, 162 00:10:54.000 --> 00:11:00.519 busy life of of a managing director of his consulting firm. 163 00:11:00.720 --> 00:11:05.240 And when a doctor is telling you, after having a 164 00:11:05.360 --> 00:11:11.799 very first sound kid that your second child has a 165 00:11:11.840 --> 00:11:17.080 problem fourth months of pregnancy, you know, doctors, there's something 166 00:11:17.120 --> 00:11:21.360 wrong and it may be a gene, a gene that's 167 00:11:21.399 --> 00:11:25.919 broken in your DNA and in your wife's DNA. By 168 00:11:25.919 --> 00:11:28.399 the way, it's the same gene broken for a different reason. 169 00:11:29.679 --> 00:11:32.759 So the chances of us my wife is British Indian, 170 00:11:32.799 --> 00:11:37.039 I'm French, the chances of us having this is me 171 00:11:37.559 --> 00:11:40.120 tossing a coin in New York. Guy and asking you 172 00:11:40.159 --> 00:11:44.159 to find it that statistically, to all the you know, 173 00:11:44.360 --> 00:11:49.279 the people, the therapist who knows quite well about DNA 174 00:11:49.759 --> 00:11:55.720 and genetics, this is really a very unlikely chance. And 175 00:11:56.000 --> 00:12:00.360 silence is massive and very disturbing because what are you 176 00:12:00.399 --> 00:12:02.759 going to say to people and what are they going 177 00:12:02.840 --> 00:12:12.519 to tell you? So my experience was of a very yes, 178 00:12:14.679 --> 00:12:19.000 very heavy silence. So at first I was confused. I 179 00:12:19.039 --> 00:12:21.240 was sad. I didn't know what was happening to us. 180 00:12:21.320 --> 00:12:26.840 When something so odd and so statistically irrelevant is happening 181 00:12:26.840 --> 00:12:28.879 in your life, you think what have I done? Like 182 00:12:28.919 --> 00:12:34.039 what's wrong? And the unfolding of that were the funeral really, 183 00:12:34.080 --> 00:12:38.120 because we gave everything we can to have this baby boy, 184 00:12:39.720 --> 00:12:43.320 to give him a chance, and I remember we even 185 00:12:43.399 --> 00:12:47.039 bought an apartment next to our apartment because we knew 186 00:12:47.120 --> 00:12:50.480 he may need twenty four to seven care for his 187 00:12:50.600 --> 00:12:53.960 lungs because they were not We knew it it would 188 00:12:54.039 --> 00:12:59.759 have a hard time breathing. And so I was blown 189 00:12:59.799 --> 00:13:06.159 away when when the funeral happened and I was this 190 00:13:06.320 --> 00:13:13.080 beautiful moment of silence with actually love, like just pure love, energy, 191 00:13:13.120 --> 00:13:16.960 positive energy. I didn't there is a song of Rhenna. 192 00:13:17.039 --> 00:13:20.399 I found love in a hopeless place, you know, well 193 00:13:20.480 --> 00:13:23.279 I found I found beauty in a very hopeless place, 194 00:13:23.919 --> 00:13:26.440 and I found love really also in a way. So 195 00:13:27.159 --> 00:13:31.960 and I thought to myself, that's weird. Like we've all 196 00:13:32.000 --> 00:13:35.360 done a minute of silence because of a terrorist attack, right, 197 00:13:36.080 --> 00:13:40.679 and that's fine, But how come we don't do minutes 198 00:13:40.720 --> 00:13:45.240 of silence just out of joy, out of love, out 199 00:13:45.240 --> 00:13:53.320 of just just being just being together. And religions obviously 200 00:13:53.320 --> 00:13:57.279 they're doing this, right, you do silence prayers and many 201 00:13:57.320 --> 00:14:00.639 things like that. But truth is, you don't have to 202 00:14:00.679 --> 00:14:04.799 be necessarily part of a religion to have this moment 203 00:14:04.840 --> 00:14:08.279 of silence and to share these meanings of silence. And 204 00:14:08.320 --> 00:14:12.080 that's where that was my big discovery, Like why don't 205 00:14:12.080 --> 00:14:17.120 we make a communion in a non religious way more often? 206 00:14:17.360 --> 00:14:21.360 Because this power of silence is massive, right, and the 207 00:14:21.480 --> 00:14:26.039 pure presence with silence is so beautiful. There's so much 208 00:14:26.200 --> 00:14:29.000 you get because worse and we're saying a lot of 209 00:14:29.039 --> 00:14:33.879 words right now, they can really be unnecessary because they're 210 00:14:33.919 --> 00:14:37.919 just you know, they break the silence. Actually, there's so 211 00:14:38.080 --> 00:14:40.080 much beauty and power in silence itself. 212 00:14:43.320 --> 00:14:49.799 So Luminara is born in the wake of that, in 213 00:14:49.799 --> 00:14:54.600 the wake of the meeting with this woman who in 214 00:14:54.600 --> 00:14:58.559 a way miraculously helped her mother heal or inspire that 215 00:14:58.639 --> 00:15:05.720 healing people come to Luminara. Who comes to Luminara? How 216 00:15:05.720 --> 00:15:06.279 does it work? 217 00:15:08.200 --> 00:15:11.399 So you go to Luminara dot care and you fill 218 00:15:11.480 --> 00:15:14.120 up a questionnaire. We want to know a bit what 219 00:15:14.639 --> 00:15:18.639 is your intention? What are looking to heal to get better? 220 00:15:19.679 --> 00:15:23.799 And once you fill out this questionnaire, I may have 221 00:15:24.399 --> 00:15:26.919 another questionnaire asked to you. Because we're partnering with the 222 00:15:26.919 --> 00:15:30.480 Florida State University right now, so there is a lab 223 00:15:30.559 --> 00:15:35.480 called a Complimentary Health Innovation Lab and we're proud of 224 00:15:35.759 --> 00:15:39.200 being helping science move forward thanks to that. So people 225 00:15:39.200 --> 00:15:41.840 can enroll onto this and once they've done that and 226 00:15:41.879 --> 00:15:44.320 they don't have to do the survey for the FSU. 227 00:15:44.360 --> 00:15:46.399 By the way, I one they've done that, we will 228 00:15:46.399 --> 00:15:48.840 do AI matching. So we use the power of AI. 229 00:15:48.879 --> 00:15:53.600 We anonymize data and they get a recommendation of three healers. 230 00:15:54.159 --> 00:15:56.519 Out of all the healers that we have, and we 231 00:15:56.600 --> 00:16:03.639 have quite a few, we match them with three. Three 232 00:16:03.759 --> 00:16:07.360 is a good number, you know, not overwhelming. I really 233 00:16:07.440 --> 00:16:10.639 want people to swipe, you know. Healers, like doctors, are 234 00:16:10.679 --> 00:16:16.639 not to be commoditized. You know, it's not like no, right, 235 00:16:16.960 --> 00:16:19.600 it's like you have three, it's a good number. And 236 00:16:19.639 --> 00:16:22.840 then we have created video content, so we actually we 237 00:16:22.840 --> 00:16:26.399 have videographers each time we on board a new healer 238 00:16:26.799 --> 00:16:31.240 that would film them in a kind of masterclass kind 239 00:16:31.240 --> 00:16:37.120 of way, very elegant, very beautiful video, well produced. And 240 00:16:37.200 --> 00:16:41.480 that's when you, as a client can make your final 241 00:16:41.600 --> 00:16:45.720 decision on saying I want to work with that healer, 242 00:16:45.759 --> 00:16:49.559 that person, that practitioner. Then you can book online, you 243 00:16:49.639 --> 00:16:52.559 pay online, and you have your session online. So everything 244 00:16:52.600 --> 00:16:56.440 works beautifully for you to have an end to an experience. 245 00:16:58.120 --> 00:17:01.120 So the people coming are they coming to you for 246 00:17:03.759 --> 00:17:09.359 psychological reasons? Physical reasons? I broke my leg? Are they 247 00:17:09.359 --> 00:17:13.599 coming to you or is it more anxiety, stress, grief? 248 00:17:15.319 --> 00:17:17.799 I think they Well, we have some stats about that 249 00:17:17.880 --> 00:17:22.839 because we had thousands and thousands of people going on 250 00:17:22.920 --> 00:17:31.440 to asking for help. I would say the the typical 251 00:17:31.759 --> 00:17:35.799 client would be a woman. We have more women than men, 252 00:17:35.839 --> 00:17:42.359 probably eighty percent women, twenty percent men. She is forty 253 00:17:42.440 --> 00:17:45.359 years old and plus like she's between forty and sixty, 254 00:17:46.599 --> 00:17:51.440 and she's American, our Canadian for most of them. This 255 00:17:51.559 --> 00:17:55.480 is this is where we we're focusing our attention right now, 256 00:17:56.279 --> 00:18:05.640 and these women they would look for. There are many reasons, 257 00:18:05.720 --> 00:18:08.759 but I would say anxiety depression is one. Yes, they 258 00:18:08.799 --> 00:18:12.559 feel for many reasons. Maybe this is because they lost someone, 259 00:18:12.920 --> 00:18:16.079 maybe because it's just I feel the burnout is not 260 00:18:16.839 --> 00:18:20.279 very far away. They want to prevent that to happen 261 00:18:20.759 --> 00:18:26.559 from happening. It can be also because simply of their 262 00:18:26.599 --> 00:18:31.680 relationships with their husband or their kids, or so there 263 00:18:31.680 --> 00:18:35.279 are many reasons for anxiety and depression. Obviously, we do 264 00:18:35.400 --> 00:18:41.519 have a number of people with chronic pain and energy 265 00:18:41.559 --> 00:18:45.640 healing is actually really effective. It's it's just mind blowing 266 00:18:45.680 --> 00:18:49.039 how effective it can be for chronic pain. And that's 267 00:18:49.039 --> 00:18:52.839 why also Mayo Clinic has energy healers and the primitives 268 00:18:52.839 --> 00:18:58.039 for oncology because all the cure for cancer can be 269 00:18:58.240 --> 00:19:02.680 very painful. And so we have chronic pain and anxiety depression, 270 00:19:03.319 --> 00:19:08.799 and some people, frankly also they are on their spiritual journey. 271 00:19:08.839 --> 00:19:11.480 So we have a part of our clientele which is 272 00:19:11.559 --> 00:19:21.880 more about getting more intuition, getting you know, you know 273 00:19:22.559 --> 00:19:26.680 something's something on a higher level, I would say about 274 00:19:27.400 --> 00:19:33.319 just finding who they are and just being being more balanced, 275 00:19:33.960 --> 00:19:38.160 happier in life. In general, you know, helping them on 276 00:19:38.200 --> 00:19:40.279 their spiritual journey is also part of what we do. 277 00:19:42.240 --> 00:19:46.240 And they use the term healers. These are people who 278 00:19:46.279 --> 00:19:51.880 are specializing in energy healing solely. Are they therapy therap 279 00:19:52.039 --> 00:19:55.119 psychologic psychotherapists or not. 280 00:19:56.039 --> 00:20:03.240 So they're not having a psychotherapy diploma. We have quite 281 00:20:03.279 --> 00:20:06.759 a few nurses that are working in hospitals and they're 282 00:20:06.799 --> 00:20:12.880 they're actually a full fledged nursed nurse. We do have 283 00:20:12.960 --> 00:20:22.640 some people who have graduated from different schools in the 284 00:20:22.759 --> 00:20:29.400 United States especially, But the truth is that some healers 285 00:20:29.640 --> 00:20:35.880 are practitioners. They're gifted, like some some of them, they're 286 00:20:35.920 --> 00:20:39.599 just extremely gifted and they don't really know how they 287 00:20:39.640 --> 00:20:44.319 got their gift. And our role as a platform is 288 00:20:44.359 --> 00:20:49.039 also to pick up these people. And that's actually one 289 00:20:49.680 --> 00:20:54.519 one thing interesting here is that these people without us 290 00:20:54.680 --> 00:20:58.279 would be hard to find, Like you would never know 291 00:20:58.319 --> 00:21:01.640 about them. They're too shy or too modest to go 292 00:21:01.680 --> 00:21:05.799 online and advertise themselves and just play the marketing game 293 00:21:05.920 --> 00:21:11.680 of hey that now they are genuinely good people and 294 00:21:11.720 --> 00:21:15.400 they would they have a hard time with money even 295 00:21:15.519 --> 00:21:17.880 like they would do this out of love, out of 296 00:21:18.680 --> 00:21:22.440 And the point is, well, we want as a collective, 297 00:21:22.480 --> 00:21:25.519 we'd like them to do more of that rather than 298 00:21:25.880 --> 00:21:28.319 doing a job in a supermarket. I mean, this is 299 00:21:28.319 --> 00:21:31.880 a bit sasserted, but that's the reality. Right. When you 300 00:21:31.920 --> 00:21:34.640 think about someone who would have a gift of playing 301 00:21:34.640 --> 00:21:37.119 the violin but came make a living out of it, well, 302 00:21:37.160 --> 00:21:41.920 you'd rather having doing concerts than you know, being an 303 00:21:41.960 --> 00:21:44.920 accountant or whatever doing some kind of job that's not 304 00:21:45.039 --> 00:21:47.680 fitted for him or her. So that's kind of what 305 00:21:47.759 --> 00:21:50.279 we do. We will look for these amazing people that 306 00:21:50.400 --> 00:21:53.319 are diamonds in the rough, and our role is to 307 00:21:53.759 --> 00:21:57.519 cut this diamond and to let it shine so. 308 00:21:57.480 --> 00:22:01.359 They could These gifts could include energy healing. 309 00:22:02.240 --> 00:22:08.920 Mostly we do that. We focus on energy healing modalities, 310 00:22:09.039 --> 00:22:16.359 So we're not going to buy people doing hypnotherapy hypnotherapists. 311 00:22:16.400 --> 00:22:21.279 It works wonderfully remotely, but we're not into that. Some 312 00:22:21.319 --> 00:22:24.240 of our healers may also do that, but we want 313 00:22:24.240 --> 00:22:26.839 to you know what, guy, the problem is if you 314 00:22:26.920 --> 00:22:28.880 do too many things, if you say I can offer 315 00:22:28.920 --> 00:22:31.359 this and that, people are like come on, and you're 316 00:22:31.440 --> 00:22:34.519 like a bizarre like you know, it's not professional. So 317 00:22:34.559 --> 00:22:41.559 we're actually purposely making sure that we're focusing on different 318 00:22:41.640 --> 00:22:45.759 modalities but they all are about energy healing. 319 00:22:48.160 --> 00:22:51.240 So I want to ask about that. But before I do, 320 00:22:52.079 --> 00:22:59.359 before all this happened, would you have thought that you'd 321 00:22:59.400 --> 00:23:13.799 be sitting here you're talking about this never ever, no, 322 00:23:14.079 --> 00:23:14.720 what happened? 323 00:23:20.400 --> 00:23:28.440 I well, I can try to give you a very 324 00:23:28.559 --> 00:23:31.839 rational reason for all of that and telling you, well, 325 00:23:31.880 --> 00:23:35.119 and I meet this person, this person. But now if 326 00:23:35.160 --> 00:23:39.000 I look back, because in many ways this is so crazy, 327 00:23:41.160 --> 00:23:44.039 because you're not I'm not the guy who even me 328 00:23:44.279 --> 00:23:46.680 thought I would do what I'm doing right now, and 329 00:23:46.759 --> 00:23:48.440 I'm doing it pretty well, and I'm doing it with 330 00:23:48.880 --> 00:23:52.119 other people were collective. Now I'm doing this really right. 331 00:23:54.160 --> 00:24:02.759 My belief is that the soul this little boy Raphael, 332 00:24:03.000 --> 00:24:10.000 who passed away so quickly, where this very rare disease 333 00:24:10.119 --> 00:24:15.720 and actually came for a reason. Like maybe it's me. 334 00:24:15.799 --> 00:24:17.839 It's my brain, you know, trying to make sense of 335 00:24:17.880 --> 00:24:20.640 all of that. This is possible, right, and there is 336 00:24:20.680 --> 00:24:23.160 a part of me that may think this way. But 337 00:24:23.519 --> 00:24:27.440 deep deep, deep inside, with all the synchrony CDs that 338 00:24:27.480 --> 00:24:33.319 I've seen following up this moment, I truly think that, yeah, 339 00:24:33.359 --> 00:24:38.599 I was on the path of a very classic corporate life, 340 00:24:38.799 --> 00:24:43.119 successful one, but that was not what I was meant 341 00:24:43.160 --> 00:24:46.359 to actually do with the rest of my life, and 342 00:24:46.400 --> 00:24:53.599 that baby boy just crashed onto my quite serious corporate 343 00:24:53.680 --> 00:24:59.839 path to make it, you know, slowly drift away into 344 00:25:00.880 --> 00:25:04.839 a world of healing, a world of joy, a world 345 00:25:04.920 --> 00:25:09.880 of gratitude, the world of you know, you're a therapist yourself, 346 00:25:09.920 --> 00:25:12.400 it's one of the most beautiful job in the whole 347 00:25:12.400 --> 00:25:15.920 world to heal someone. To help someone heal is just 348 00:25:16.160 --> 00:25:19.400 so gratifying. And so I'm not a healer myself, but 349 00:25:19.440 --> 00:25:24.359 I'm blessed to help having people getting healed faster, stronger. 350 00:25:24.720 --> 00:25:26.880 And I'm not against Western medicine at all. I'm just 351 00:25:26.920 --> 00:25:30.319 bridging by the way very ancient practices that you find 352 00:25:30.319 --> 00:25:34.039 in TCM, traditional Chinese medicine or are Euvedic medicine. You know, 353 00:25:34.519 --> 00:25:38.039 all these meridians, these chakra, these has existed for thousands 354 00:25:38.039 --> 00:25:42.200 of years, just happened. That energy chi as they say, 355 00:25:42.240 --> 00:25:47.359 you know, tai chi chigong is something we you know, 356 00:25:47.440 --> 00:25:52.200 we haven't really incorporated in Western medicine, and we kind 357 00:25:52.200 --> 00:25:54.240 of push this away because we don't know how to 358 00:25:54.319 --> 00:25:57.680 explain this. But it's it's knocking at the door and 359 00:25:57.720 --> 00:26:03.680 it's now entering Anyway, that's my story. 360 00:26:03.799 --> 00:26:06.240 How do you how do you explain to our listeners 361 00:26:07.640 --> 00:26:12.240 how do you help them understand how and energy healing 362 00:26:13.680 --> 00:26:15.400 can happen virtually? 363 00:26:16.799 --> 00:26:24.119 Great question. So first of all, I want to say 364 00:26:24.160 --> 00:26:30.480 to all the listeners that what I'm going to say 365 00:26:30.559 --> 00:26:33.640 here is just my thinking, and of course it's going 366 00:26:33.720 --> 00:26:36.920 to be built on what the science has to say 367 00:26:37.000 --> 00:26:40.519 right now. But no one right now can say for 368 00:26:40.599 --> 00:26:43.160 sure I know how it works. Like anyone who would 369 00:26:43.200 --> 00:26:48.319 say this is a liar. It is still unknown. Now 370 00:26:49.720 --> 00:26:57.839 we could have some hypothesis and so what seems to 371 00:26:57.880 --> 00:27:04.640 be true and again look at traditional Chinese medicine and 372 00:27:04.799 --> 00:27:07.880 iuovetic medicine, but this is not proven. This is just 373 00:27:08.279 --> 00:27:12.519 thousands of years of practice that is effective. Well, we 374 00:27:12.640 --> 00:27:16.039 have an energetic body. I think this is the premises 375 00:27:16.200 --> 00:27:18.160 of what people have to understand. So there is a 376 00:27:18.160 --> 00:27:22.200 physical body, but there is a body another body which 377 00:27:22.240 --> 00:27:27.759 is for lack of a better word, energetic. So like 378 00:27:28.400 --> 00:27:33.079 wave and adds the quantum, you know level. We know 379 00:27:33.160 --> 00:27:37.039 we're frequencies, like our atoms are moving so fast it's 380 00:27:37.119 --> 00:27:40.799 like it's like a frequency. So there is this we're 381 00:27:40.839 --> 00:27:44.240 emitting and we know heart is emitting electromatic. There is 382 00:27:44.279 --> 00:27:47.759 an electromagic field that has been proven, and we have 383 00:27:47.880 --> 00:27:52.319 neurons and all of this is but there is this field. Now, 384 00:27:53.200 --> 00:27:57.400 if you think about we having a field, the healer 385 00:27:57.440 --> 00:28:01.079 has a field, and there is something in between, right 386 00:28:01.680 --> 00:28:07.079 cold distance miles kilometers. Now, if you think of radio waves, 387 00:28:07.480 --> 00:28:09.839 you know you could capture the wave of radio station 388 00:28:10.279 --> 00:28:14.559 from very far away. Well, in that same way, a 389 00:28:14.599 --> 00:28:19.759 healer thousands of kilometers away from your body can access 390 00:28:19.799 --> 00:28:23.799 to your energetic body because your energic body is wave. 391 00:28:24.960 --> 00:28:29.759 And that's the power of a healer to know how 392 00:28:29.799 --> 00:28:33.359 to access to that. And what a healer will tell 393 00:28:33.400 --> 00:28:38.920 you is that they don't heal you. They actually channel 394 00:28:39.200 --> 00:28:43.880 a life force, a universal force, like the force that 395 00:28:43.920 --> 00:28:46.240 created the Big Bang. You know, there was nothing and 396 00:28:46.279 --> 00:28:49.640 then something exploded. What is this explosion? You know you 397 00:28:50.279 --> 00:28:52.759 we know there was an explosion. So this life force, 398 00:28:52.799 --> 00:28:58.000 this movement, it's very fundamental stuff that we don't steal grass. Right, 399 00:28:58.359 --> 00:29:00.680 Why did this explosi I'm not sure these scientists can 400 00:29:00.799 --> 00:29:04.160 know that. But there is force and the universe is expending, right, 401 00:29:04.680 --> 00:29:08.759