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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM

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<v Speaker 1>six forty.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is KFI AM six forty Bill Handle here

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<v Speaker 2>on a Tuesday morning Taco Tuesday, October one.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of the big stories.

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<v Speaker 2>We are looking at the death toll from Hurricane Helene

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<v Speaker 2>worse than we thought, the damage worse than we thought.

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<v Speaker 1>And it is being described as.

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<v Speaker 2>Well apocalyptic, biblical in its destruction of that area. And

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<v Speaker 2>Israel has now begun its quote limited ground operation in

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<v Speaker 2>southern Lebanon targeting hes Belah.

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<v Speaker 1>And I will do that next segment.

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<v Speaker 2>And then the other big business bit of news is

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<v Speaker 2>tonight the Vans Waltz VP debate, which is going to

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<v Speaker 2>be watched big time. Now, normally nobody really cares, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>VP debates, Eh, they don't change much. However, this is

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<v Speaker 2>particularly important because this election is going to be so

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<v Speaker 2>razor in that even a few votes that are turned

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<v Speaker 2>one way or the other, or people feel strong enough

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<v Speaker 2>that they are going to vote in one sense or another,

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<v Speaker 2>can make a big, big difference here. So what are

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<v Speaker 2>you going to see tonight, Well, you've got Wall's sixty

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<v Speaker 2>year old Minnesota governor. Very matter of fact, Oshuck's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of Guy Vance is a forty year old Ohio senator.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he's eighteen months into his term. And you've

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<v Speaker 2>got two very different people. Walt's pretty true blue Democrat

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<v Speaker 2>liberal and Vance a very true red Republican. So what

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<v Speaker 2>are we going to see tonight? Okay, what we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to see is, first of all, their political views are

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<v Speaker 2>going to be and that's no surprise put on stage,

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<v Speaker 2>and they're very different. Walt's two term governor, former congressman.

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<v Speaker 2>Expect him not only to talk about his political philosophy

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<v Speaker 2>and of course pitch Harris's views because he is that

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<v Speaker 2>she is his boss, but also he's going to push

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<v Speaker 2>hard that he's a high school teacher, assistant football coach,

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<v Speaker 2>just a regular kind of guy, very likable, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like Uncle.

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<v Speaker 1>Tim kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Vance a marine veteran, hard knows author of the best

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<v Speaker 2>selling book about his Appalachian family and values and socioeconomic

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<v Speaker 2>problems growing up.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, I've read his book, He'll Billy Eology.

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<v Speaker 1>It is excellent. It is really good. In that book.

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<v Speaker 2>You're not seeing a crazy person, You're not seeing animals

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<v Speaker 2>being eaten.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you are, because he grew up with the eight squirrels

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<v Speaker 1>and posts and stuff, but you.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't see any of the crazy you see today. He

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<v Speaker 2>takes a very conservative view, but in my opinion, logical,

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<v Speaker 2>well reasoned, and that's part of America that I pay

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<v Speaker 2>attention to. So you're going to see him push his

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<v Speaker 2>war record. Marine veteran, as I said, went to an

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<v Speaker 2>Ivy League, came out first person to come out of

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<v Speaker 2>his family, his entire area that went to an Ivy

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<v Speaker 2>League school. And it's they're both interesting people, for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the big issues, of course, is abortion. And

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<v Speaker 2>here Walls is real simple. He believes an abortion, even

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<v Speaker 2>to the point where he is going to be accused

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<v Speaker 2>of by vance of when he was a Minnesota governor.

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<v Speaker 2>Now we're talking to Walls backing a measure that would

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<v Speaker 2>allow abortion right up to the moment of birth, even

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<v Speaker 2>to the point at which doctors wouldn't be required to

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<v Speaker 2>provide life saving care to a baby who has survived

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<v Speaker 2>a botched abortion. Now, are there a few hundred late

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<v Speaker 2>term abortions given a year?

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<v Speaker 1>There are?

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<v Speaker 2>However, that is skewed, even though it is technically true.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not what it sounds like. But this is what

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<v Speaker 2>politics are about. It's not what it sounds like it

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<v Speaker 2>rarely is. You're gonna see a lot of simplistic stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>You're going to see Vance at tak Wall attack walls

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<v Speaker 2>because he left and retired from the military in order

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<v Speaker 2>not to go to a rock. Walls is going to

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<v Speaker 2>come back and go, Well, let me put it this way.

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<v Speaker 2>My unit was deployed. We were notified the unit was

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<v Speaker 2>going to be deployed after I registered for Congress, and

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<v Speaker 2>I retired before that. And the accusation is still going

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<v Speaker 2>to be given. You retired so you wouldn't go to

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<v Speaker 2>a rock. Okay, he's going to Walls is going to

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<v Speaker 2>continue calling Vance and Trump weird.

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<v Speaker 1>It is.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, Vance will also attack Walls on a

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<v Speaker 2>statement about weapons of war and that he was an

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<v Speaker 2>area of war, and that's absolutely true.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to know what Walls says about this one.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he's already said I misspoke, and I'd like

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<v Speaker 2>to see how he's going to get out of it

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<v Speaker 2>other than saying, you're right, I said that. I shouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>have said that I missed. Now what let's move on,

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<v Speaker 2>which would be the way to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>The interesting part are the dogs and cats statement that.

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<v Speaker 1>Vance has backed up.

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<v Speaker 2>He has said, yes, those Haitians eat their neighbor's pets,

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<v Speaker 2>or at least he has said that the President Trump

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<v Speaker 2>was right about that.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the reason he gave, and this one I think.

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<v Speaker 2>Is attackable instantly, and that is, if I have to

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<v Speaker 2>make up stories to get the people of the United

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<v Speaker 2>States to concentrate on the real problems we have, then

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<v Speaker 2>I will do it. And of course the question to

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<v Speaker 2>him is what other stories do you want to make up.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's say you want to attack a country, do you

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<v Speaker 2>make up a story about they attacked us first? Where

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<v Speaker 2>do you go with that? How do you have a

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<v Speaker 2>vice president of the United States make up stories of

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<v Speaker 2>the American people to further an agenda. You can't, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I mean it's been done. Do you remember

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<v Speaker 2>Colin Powell with that little vial of what did he

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<v Speaker 2>say it was anthrax? He said this much anthrax will

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<v Speaker 2>kill five million people And it turned out to be

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<v Speaker 2>just basically a little viole of sweet and low, and

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<v Speaker 2>that proved that everybody was going to die. It was.

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<v Speaker 2>Now the argument is based on the intelligence was that legitimate?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know you can argue that that was a

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<v Speaker 2>legitimate statement based on their view, and that's Trump's argument,

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<v Speaker 2>based on.

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<v Speaker 1>The information we got. It just happened to be a.

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<v Speaker 2>Woman who heard it from a woman who heard it

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<v Speaker 2>from a woman who made a phone call, and she

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<v Speaker 2>instantly called and said, oh my god, it was just

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<v Speaker 2>a rumor that I was repeating.

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<v Speaker 1>I think there's a difference. So we'll see, you'll see that.

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<v Speaker 2>Waltz talk about reproductive rights and the fact that Trump

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<v Speaker 2>named three people to the US Supreme Court, all anti

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<v Speaker 2>abortion and overturned Roe v. Wade, he is going to

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<v Speaker 2>have a hard time coming back at all on the

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<v Speaker 2>reproductive rights issue.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, I wanted to go to the States. That

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<v Speaker 1>was important for me. I don't know if I had

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<v Speaker 1>to argue, you know what.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he wanted his evangelical political base and he

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<v Speaker 2>got it, and he got it. So both sides have weaknesses,

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<v Speaker 2>both sides have strength. And then I'm going to end

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<v Speaker 2>with the fact that we've never had this happen before,

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<v Speaker 2>and that is a vice presidential candidate a debate where

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<v Speaker 2>you hear where you hear, or you get reports that

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<v Speaker 2>the debate. In this case, Walls is nervous about the debate.

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<v Speaker 2>He is scared he is going to not do well.

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<v Speaker 2>I never heard that before. So we'll see Nu's tonight,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll carrie it live here on KFI and tomorrow certainly

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<v Speaker 2>announced that all right, Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>We knew this was going to happen.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is my wheelhouse because you know, I'm particularly

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<v Speaker 2>interested what happens with the Israeli defense forces in that

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<v Speaker 2>attire area of.

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<v Speaker 1>The Middle East.

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<v Speaker 2>I have friends in Israel. My great uncle lived in

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<v Speaker 2>Israel for many years. I have been to Israel many times,

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<v Speaker 2>so I am, and I have been to the Lebanon

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<v Speaker 2>Israeli border. I mean, you go to the border up

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<v Speaker 2>there when this kind of crapple, what isn't happening and

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<v Speaker 2>you literally are looking at Lebanese soldiers right on the

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<v Speaker 2>other side.

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<v Speaker 1>Of this fence. Well, you can't do that anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>All of northern Israel has been evacuated sixty thousand people,

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<v Speaker 2>and all of southern Lebanon has been evacuated one.

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<v Speaker 1>Hundred thousand people.

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<v Speaker 2>And after the terrorist attack on Israel October seventh by

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<v Speaker 2>those crazy Hamasa terrorists, they killed twelve hundred Israelis.

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<v Speaker 1>Boy that was a good move, wasn't it. Boy? They

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<v Speaker 1>got theirs.

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<v Speaker 2>They say, oh boy, someone over there has to say,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe that wasn't a good thing. Forty one thousand, forty

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<v Speaker 2>one thousand Palestinians have already been killed. Now everybody thinks

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<v Speaker 2>that there's forty one thousand civilians, that's not true. About

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<v Speaker 2>a third of them are Hamas fighters. They're militants, and

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<v Speaker 2>they go to war. They're the ones that went across

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<v Speaker 2>the border and massacred twelve hundred Israelis. And if they

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<v Speaker 2>didn't think Israel's going to fight back, boy, they got

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<v Speaker 2>another thing coming. So I think it's fair to say

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<v Speaker 2>that two thirds civilians have been killed in Palestine. And

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<v Speaker 2>well they call it Palestine, let's call it Gaza. And

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<v Speaker 2>so here's what happened with his Bellah. And that's the

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<v Speaker 2>group up north, a terrorist group up north that control.

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<v Speaker 1>All the southern Lebanon.

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<v Speaker 2>They are not only a terrorist group, they are a

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<v Speaker 2>fighting force, pretty sophisticated, and they are a government. They

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<v Speaker 2>give services to those people, and they and schools and hospitals.

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<v Speaker 2>And the problem with thought Hezbollah did And here's another one.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe this one didn't work out either.

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<v Speaker 2>The second that October seventh happened October eighth, Israel invades Gaza,

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<v Speaker 2>they start launching missiles against Israel, sometimes one hundred a day.

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<v Speaker 1>Well that's a little problematic. What do you think Israel's

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<v Speaker 1>going to do? So they just gave it. They were

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<v Speaker 1>just sitting there.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a tit for tat for years, but it

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<v Speaker 2>really ramped up after Israel starts pounding Gaza and decimates

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<v Speaker 2>probably a third of Gaza or forty percent.

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<v Speaker 1>Of Gaza is a debris field.

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<v Speaker 2>So Hesbela decides to start launching these missiles just.

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<v Speaker 1>In solidarity with Hamas.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's say, just in solidarity, no invasion, no one went in,

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<v Speaker 2>there was no terrorist attack, it was just our brothers

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<v Speaker 2>in Gaza are being decimated by Israel. We are now

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<v Speaker 2>going to do what we can to destroy Israel or

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<v Speaker 2>to hurt Israel.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's send in the missiles. How'd that work out

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<v Speaker 1>for you? All right?

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<v Speaker 2>Israel intercepts thousands and thousands of pagers that they use,

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<v Speaker 2>and the reason they use pagers is because cell phones

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<v Speaker 2>can be intercepted. Right, those cell phones, Well, I guess

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<v Speaker 2>what Israel did. Thousands went in, they got them before

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<v Speaker 2>they went and then pushed the trigger and twenty five

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<v Speaker 2>hundred people had their ears blown off, or their weight

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<v Speaker 2>or their arms blown off. And then the walkie talkies,

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<v Speaker 2>which of course also Israel can't intercept. They got hold

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<v Speaker 2>of those and hundreds of people were severely injured, and

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<v Speaker 2>well thousands of people were injured, hundreds were killed. And

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<v Speaker 2>so now Israel they keep on launching missiles, and what

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<v Speaker 2>Israel says is Okay, now we're going to.

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<v Speaker 1>Go after you.

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<v Speaker 2>Guys, we suggest you stop, and now we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>go after the leadership of Hezbollah. Took out the senior

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<v Speaker 2>leadership massive attacks, knowing exactly where the leadership were a

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<v Speaker 2>matter of fact, they had undergrade, you know where the

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<v Speaker 2>keep on coming and coming. And guess what happened. We

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<v Speaker 2>knew there was going to be incursion. Yep, Israel is

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<v Speaker 2>now on Lebanese soil. They've done it before. Two thousand

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<v Speaker 2>and six was a bad move by Israeli.

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<v Speaker 1>They went into the Janine, the.

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<v Speaker 2>Camp, the refugee camp, and there were massacres that occurred.

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<v Speaker 2>Ariel Sharon got into a lot of trouble for that

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<v Speaker 2>war crimes at what Israel did. But they were and

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<v Speaker 2>then they occupied Lebanon for eighteen years. Well that's the

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<v Speaker 2>last thing Israel wants to do is start occupying both

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<v Speaker 2>Gaza and Lebanon. But everybody's everybody's on the record at

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<v Speaker 2>this point. Israel doesn't sit there defensively anymore, not even

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<v Speaker 2>about the Israeli government and at Tanyahu and the war

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<v Speaker 2>cabinet is We're gonna hit three times harder than you

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<v Speaker 2>they're now moving into South Lebanon. Hezbollah was considered one

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<v Speaker 2>of the top military forces in the entire Middle East,

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<v Speaker 2>supply trained by Iran. Hisbola is a proxy of Iran,

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<v Speaker 2>like the Houti's in Yemen, and like the various terrorist

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<v Speaker 2>groups up and down in Iraq. Iraq, which also has

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<v Speaker 2>a population of terrorists and attacking Israel.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Israel is not taking it.

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<v Speaker 2>It is straight out war as far as their concern,

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<v Speaker 2>and his blot is not what it was touted to be. Nope,

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<v Speaker 2>it has been seriously degraded. And now we'll see what happens.

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<v Speaker 2>The incursion has happened. Now Israel says it's a limited incursion.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, his Bola starts fighting. Seriously, it's not going to

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<v Speaker 1>be so limited at least I don't think so.

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<v Speaker 2>And the United States theoretically wasn't told about it. Certainly

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<v Speaker 2>the air attacks, the United States wasn't told about this one.

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<v Speaker 2>Biden admitted, Yeah, he knew about this and gave him

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<v Speaker 1>Because the United States has.

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<v Speaker 2>Huge influence in Israel because they provide massive arms to Israel,

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<v Speaker 2>and without those arms, much like Ukraine, Ukraine is in

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<v Speaker 2>deep trouble as Israel, not as deep because Israel has

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<v Speaker 2>a very sophistic hated arms industry, but at the same time,

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<v Speaker 2>it needs a whole lot more munitions than what it

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<v Speaker 2>can produce in the United States is the primary supplier.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So we'll talk about that. Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, something I've been fighting for for literally forty years

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<v Speaker 2>finally came to fruition. The governor just signed a bill,

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<v Speaker 2>our governor requiring the large health insurance companies to cover

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<v Speaker 2>in vitro fertilization.

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<v Speaker 1>And let me tell you how far back I go

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<v Speaker 1>with IVF.

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<v Speaker 2>I started in the reproductive business, if you will, helping

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<v Speaker 2>infertile couples have children in nineteen eighty. The first IVF

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<v Speaker 2>baby was born in nineteen seventy eight, Louise Brown. And

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<v Speaker 2>there's a whole story there that I may end up

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<v Speaker 2>doing as a matter of fact, and I think I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna do that tomorrow because the history of IVF is fascinating.

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<v Speaker 1>A couple of guys, step Toe.

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<v Speaker 2>And Edwards, who buy themselves, created IVF and had no public.

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<v Speaker 1>Funding, had no hospital funding. They did it on their own.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was very fortunate to have met doctor Edwards

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<v Speaker 2>and sat down, had to talk with him.

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<v Speaker 1>A real pioneer. He isn't given enough credit.

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<v Speaker 2>But let's go back to IVF in vitrol for well,

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<v Speaker 2>let's talk about infertility. Infertility is traditionally not viewed as

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<v Speaker 2>a medical problem as far as insurance companies. If you're infertile,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not the same as cancer, broken bone, you need surgery.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just you're infertile, and therefore we're not going to

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<v Speaker 2>cover it because it's not a medical problem. Well, the

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<v Speaker 2>people who needed IVF to have children otherwise they couldn't,

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<v Speaker 2>and we're talking probably now in the millions which had

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<v Speaker 2>to pay for it for the most part, ask them

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<v Speaker 2>if infertility is a medical problem or not.

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<v Speaker 1>My kids were born of in vitro fertilization, and.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't tell you how many kids were, and let

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<v Speaker 2>me tell you how expensive it was. The only good

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<v Speaker 2>news about my kids being born is I had twins,

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<v Speaker 2>so the unit costs dropped in half. I actually got

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<v Speaker 2>two for the price of one, so that made it

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit easier. It was a sale that day,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'll take it, but it was still hideously expensive.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was at that time. It may have

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<v Speaker 2>been eighteen or twenty thousand dollars twenty nine years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>So the fight for in vitro fertilization has now come

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<v Speaker 2>to the point of something that I first asked for

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<v Speaker 2>because we knew by the way we were doing or

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<v Speaker 2>I was doing surrogacy before in vitro fertilization became any

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<v Speaker 2>kind of a medical success. When I first started, the

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<v Speaker 2>success rate was under five percent. Today it's in the

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<v Speaker 2>range of sixty percent. Matter of fact, the birth rate,

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<v Speaker 2>the fertilization rate is higher today within vitro, far higher

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<v Speaker 2>than it is with natural conception. Stooping your spouse, which

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<v Speaker 2>is now a waste of time. Don't even bother if

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<v Speaker 2>you want kids. Eh, you know what, go to the doctor.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't have to have sex.

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<v Speaker 1>You can get married like I did and not bother.

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<v Speaker 1>And as far as the in vitro story.

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<v Speaker 2>It's tough for the women because they have to take

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<v Speaker 2>drugs to create more eggs than is normal. So it's

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<v Speaker 2>a medical procedure and it's not fun as far as

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<v Speaker 2>guys are concerned. Okay, not bad, not bad at all,

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<v Speaker 2>because you go in the other room.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I have a story I want to share with you.

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<v Speaker 2>One of my doctor friends, a urologist, male fertility expert,

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<v Speaker 2>who did sperm counts that had the biggest we created

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<v Speaker 2>the biggest sperm bank actually in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>And he did this.

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<v Speaker 2>It was male infertility. And obviously how you deal with

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<v Speaker 2>male infertility is you have to have sperm specimens. You know, specimens.

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<v Speaker 2>You masturbate into a dixie cup. Matter of fact, if

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<v Speaker 2>you come to my house, my kids when they were young.

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<v Speaker 2>G Daddy, where did I come from? I point to

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<v Speaker 2>this looseight sort of obeliss with a dixie cup in it,

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<v Speaker 2>and I go, that's where you came from. He had

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<v Speaker 2>in his office what he called he had three rooms

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<v Speaker 2>that he called masturbatorium number one, number two, number three.

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<v Speaker 2>And science tells us the more excited a man is,

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<v Speaker 2>the bigger and the better the sperm count. This is

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<v Speaker 2>real science. So he wanted to maximize sperm counts. And

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<v Speaker 2>so therefore you have the three masturbatorium and you'd walk

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<v Speaker 2>in and those are the days of videotape, and you

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<v Speaker 2>had every porno videotape.

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<v Speaker 1>You can imagine.

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<v Speaker 2>The walls were flecked, wall flecked wallpaper, red shag carpets.

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<v Speaker 1>It basically looked like an Iranian whorehouse.

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<v Speaker 2>And the magazines that he had there, I mean gay sex,

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<v Speaker 2>straight sex, I mean whatever turned you on, barnyard love,

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<v Speaker 2>whatever it was. And the excitement level, he was able

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<v Speaker 2>to get really good sperm counts.

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<v Speaker 1>He was ahead of the curve. So the good news

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<v Speaker 1>is here.

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<v Speaker 2>It all goes back to in vitro fertilization is a

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<v Speaker 2>real medical problem and finally the law has caught up

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<v Speaker 2>with it. And as a matter of fact, and the

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<v Speaker 2>story of IVF is unbelievable. I actually sat down and

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<v Speaker 2>debated the first IVF baby, Louise Brown in England, and

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<v Speaker 2>she could be one of the dumbest human beings I

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<v Speaker 2>ever met in my life. I'll explain why, no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a reason that's not me, just that's me, just

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<v Speaker 2>them making it up. I will tell you the reason.

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<v Speaker 2>You're gonna go, yeah, pretty dumb. Yeah, yeah, handle, I understand.

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<v Speaker 2>So we ought to put that one together tomorrow because

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<v Speaker 2>that's a fun story. Okay, so much for that. Let

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<v Speaker 2>me tell you what is happening. California did a really

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<v Speaker 2>neat thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Now. I'm not a big fan.

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<v Speaker 2>Of a lot of the bills that are passed by

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<v Speaker 2>the California legislature super majority Democrat, very liberal Governor Gavin Duson,

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, we get a lot of bills that

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<v Speaker 2>don't make a lot of sense. However, a bill just

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<v Speaker 2>passed that the governor signed that restricts the use of

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<v Speaker 2>the blood thinning rat poisons.

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<v Speaker 1>Rat poisons are not poisons.

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<v Speaker 2>That kill rats. What they do is they're anti coagulants.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't let the blood coaculate, so internally internal bleeding

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<v Speaker 1>Rats die of that.

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<v Speaker 2>The problem is that stays in the rat's body, and

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<v Speaker 2>so when you have a rat that is either dead

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<v Speaker 2>or really not doing.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's easy prey.

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<v Speaker 2>So the raptors are out there, the pumas are out there,

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<v Speaker 2>the eagles are out there. The owls really go and

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<v Speaker 2>they're dying. They're dying. A Department Fish and Wildlife report

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty three, eighty eight percent of raptors, ninety percent

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<v Speaker 2>of pumas tested have been exposed to those pointment those poisons.

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<v Speaker 2>So California has become the first state to restrict those

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<v Speaker 2>kinds of poisons. Dean Sharp has been since he's been

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<v Speaker 2>on the air, and he started six years ago, has

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<v Speaker 2>been talking about this use of poison and you don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to use those because it.

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<v Speaker 1>Kills the owls, It kills the creatures that feed on

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<v Speaker 1>these rats. Now, who is against this law? Well, oh, how.

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<v Speaker 2>About the industry, the pesticide industry saying, hold on a minute,

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<v Speaker 2>Hold on a minute. You know, rats are a real

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<v Speaker 2>problem diseases. You get bubonic plague with rats because they

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<v Speaker 2>carry all these diseases and we have to get rid

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<v Speaker 2>of them, not particularly noting that wildlife dies because of rats.

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<v Speaker 2>And there are other ways of doing this. Frankly, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if many that work as well. You get

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<v Speaker 2>those little rat traps and then go out and release

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<v Speaker 2>raps rats someplace so someone else gets infested.

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<v Speaker 1>Let that family have the plague.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, but I do know, And I stopped

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<v Speaker 2>using rat poisons, by the way, I just outright stopped.

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<v Speaker 2>We have an owl that lived at our house and

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<v Speaker 2>it was just an I love als. Two of my

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<v Speaker 2>favorite birds in the world are pelicans and owls. They're

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<v Speaker 2>just terrific. And it's heartbreaking, you know, to have these animals,

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<v Speaker 2>have these birds, and these animals who feed on rats

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<v Speaker 2>die because of this, because the anti coagulants. So the

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<v Speaker 2>law has just been signed by the governor really limiting

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<v Speaker 2>the amount of rat poison, these rodenticides that are anti

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<v Speaker 2>anti coagulants, CHLORA fossinone and war for it.

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<v Speaker 1>People say, you know, people take war for in it.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I'm on blood thinners because my heart business and

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<v Speaker 2>so many people are same thing. Because you were a rat, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I was a rat, and tell you I tell you

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<v Speaker 2>what else it is cheaper to buy because you've got

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<v Speaker 2>medicines that are so expensive, you know, big pharma. You

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<v Speaker 2>can actually have the same effect on if you need

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<v Speaker 2>a blood thinner, buy rat poison and just take that.

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<v Speaker 2>And you say money, Bill Handle is not a medical doctor,

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<v Speaker 2>nor should you take any of his medical or legal

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<v Speaker 2>advice for that matter.

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<v Speaker 1>That's actually true.

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<v Speaker 2>Then there's first in generation rat poisons and there is

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<v Speaker 2>a lot to this, and this law restricts the first generation.

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<v Speaker 2>It takes a while for the rats and they have

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<v Speaker 2>to eat several times of this rat poison.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, put rat poison on feed and whatever

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<v Speaker 1>rats munch on.

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<v Speaker 2>And the first generation took several times they had to eat.

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<v Speaker 2>Second generation they just popped off. I ate the rat poison,

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<v Speaker 2>internal bleeding, butN done. You're finished, and then down comes

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<v Speaker 2>an owl, down comes.

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<v Speaker 1>A raptor a hawk. Oh boy, dinner.

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<v Speaker 2>The problem is that the blood thinner and the rat

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<v Speaker 2>poison kills them and so don't use it. And the

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<v Speaker 2>bill is great and for those view that work for

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<v Speaker 2>that industry that says that it's.

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<v Speaker 1>More important to.

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<v Speaker 2>Make sure that people don't get sick and the infestation

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<v Speaker 2>than your local owl. Let me tell you, your local

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<v Speaker 2>owl is far more important than your family.

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<v Speaker 1>Being wiped out by the plague. That simple. That's probably

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<v Speaker 1>not where Dean wanted this to go, was it? No?

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<v Speaker 2>Probably not okay coming up. And by the way, I'm serious.

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<v Speaker 2>I stopped using it because of Dean and I years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is a good, good thing. This is KFIAM

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<v Speaker 2>six forty live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.

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<v Speaker 1>You've been listening to the Bill Handle Show.

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<v Speaker 2>Catch my show Monday through Friday six am to nine am,

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