WEBVTT 1 00:00:04.639 --> 00:00:42.399 Will you wait, Miss. 2 00:00:29.679 --> 00:01:19.560 School Sill. 3 00:01:19.599 --> 00:01:22.560 Welcome back midnight viewers. Father alone here with a rather 4 00:01:22.760 --> 00:01:26.079 somber couple of episodes at the time of this recording. 5 00:01:26.200 --> 00:01:29.599 Today the cinematic world lost a massive figure in that 6 00:01:29.760 --> 00:01:33.239 of David Lynch, maybe not so well known, but also 7 00:01:33.359 --> 00:01:36.480 expiring on this same day, which is kind of poetic 8 00:01:36.519 --> 00:01:39.439 when you look at his career. Was mister Jeno Zwark. 9 00:01:40.159 --> 00:01:42.640 He is a favorite of mine. He directed some nineteen 10 00:01:42.760 --> 00:01:46.280 segments of Night Gallery. He made the only decent adaptation 11 00:01:46.400 --> 00:01:49.480 of a Richard Matheson novel in Somewhere in Time. Yes 12 00:01:49.599 --> 00:01:52.760 he directed Supergirl. Yes he directed Santa Clause the movie. 13 00:01:52.799 --> 00:01:56.560 But he also directed Jaws two, which I like equally 14 00:01:57.040 --> 00:02:00.000 to the first film. That's right, it's the b movie 15 00:02:00.239 --> 00:02:02.519 that the first film was pretending it's not. He was 16 00:02:02.599 --> 00:02:06.280 a prolific TV director, having worked on Heroes and Smallville 17 00:02:06.359 --> 00:02:09.360 and Supernatural and Scandal and Castle and Oh my God. 18 00:02:10.199 --> 00:02:14.120 Jeno Zwark hard to spell, easy to watch. I've gone 19 00:02:14.120 --> 00:02:16.879 ahead and compiled all of his appearances on Night Gallery 20 00:02:17.039 --> 00:02:21.000 into this special Zwarkathon, a tribute to a beloved man 21 00:02:21.039 --> 00:02:23.560 who gave us some great entertainment over the years. The 22 00:02:23.599 --> 00:02:26.360 episode ended up being way too long, so I'm breaking 23 00:02:26.439 --> 00:02:30.280 it into two parts, and I'm making them both available immediately. 24 00:02:31.039 --> 00:02:34.759 The next segment of the show is called Little Black Bag. 25 00:02:34.879 --> 00:02:35.000 Now. 26 00:02:35.039 --> 00:02:38.120 This was written by Rod Sterling, adapted from a short 27 00:02:38.199 --> 00:02:42.000 story by Cyril M. Cornblue. And this is actually not 28 00:02:42.199 --> 00:02:45.199 the first time it had been adapted. It had been 29 00:02:45.240 --> 00:02:48.039 adapted back in nineteen fifty two for a science fiction 30 00:02:48.120 --> 00:02:52.639 show called Tales of Tomorrow. It stars Burgess, Meredith Chillwills 31 00:02:52.759 --> 00:02:55.960 and George Firth. It was, as I said, written by 32 00:02:56.360 --> 00:03:00.280 Ron Sterling, but it was directed by Jeno'swark. Hope, I'm 33 00:03:00.319 --> 00:03:03.199 pronouncing it right. I'm a fan of his, and I'm 34 00:03:03.240 --> 00:03:04.680 sure I just made a fool of myself, but I 35 00:03:04.719 --> 00:03:07.960 don't understand French. It's a crazy moon language to me anyway. 36 00:03:09.919 --> 00:03:12.280 For your approval, now, a painting which has to do 37 00:03:12.439 --> 00:03:16.400 with time, not the brief moments left to our culprits 38 00:03:16.400 --> 00:03:20.000 in the previous story. Their years of imprisonment were minute, 39 00:03:20.000 --> 00:03:22.199 little fragments compared to the time we talk of in 40 00:03:22.280 --> 00:03:25.560 this picture. We talk centuries now, and what happens when 41 00:03:25.599 --> 00:03:28.919 men from one century send back items quite unbidden to 42 00:03:29.000 --> 00:03:29.560 men of another. 43 00:03:30.319 --> 00:03:32.560 We call this painting the Little Black Bag. 44 00:03:32.879 --> 00:03:36.000 Did you guys happen to read the story or see 45 00:03:36.159 --> 00:03:38.879 the original Tales of Tomorrow? 46 00:03:39.560 --> 00:03:39.599 No? 47 00:03:40.520 --> 00:03:43.120 Okay, well I managed to do all three. The original 48 00:03:43.159 --> 00:03:45.919 short story takes place in the year twenty ninety eight. 49 00:03:46.280 --> 00:03:51.400 Society is split into two factions, super Geniuses and the Dimwits. 50 00:03:51.680 --> 00:03:54.639 Two super geniuses have a bet that they can create 51 00:03:54.759 --> 00:03:57.759 time travel, and one of them does it so just 52 00:03:57.840 --> 00:03:59.759 to see if it works, they send a medical bag 53 00:03:59.800 --> 00:04:02.439 back back in time, where it is picked up by 54 00:04:02.719 --> 00:04:04.680 an alcoholic but not hobo. 55 00:04:05.120 --> 00:04:07.199 Alcoholic but not not hobo. 56 00:04:07.360 --> 00:04:11.919 Yes, so he was a surgeon. He was kicked out 57 00:04:11.919 --> 00:04:16.720 of the medical industry for practicing surgery while drunk. He 58 00:04:16.839 --> 00:04:20.399 has nothing. He does have a little house, like I said, 59 00:04:20.399 --> 00:04:22.600 he's not homeless, and he has a sister named Agnes. 60 00:04:22.680 --> 00:04:25.680 Now he finds the bag. He finds it and shows 61 00:04:25.720 --> 00:04:28.160 it to her, figures out what it does, which is 62 00:04:28.199 --> 00:04:32.319 from the future, and then Agnes becomes more and more greedy, 63 00:04:32.720 --> 00:04:35.800 and he creates a clinic. It's very long for what 64 00:04:35.959 --> 00:04:38.199 we ended up getting. He makes a clinic where he's 65 00:04:38.240 --> 00:04:40.000 helping everyone for free, and he has all of the 66 00:04:40.560 --> 00:04:44.120 patients blindfolded so they won't see the futuristic equipment, and 67 00:04:44.240 --> 00:04:48.480 then he decides that he can't keep this information to himself. 68 00:04:48.480 --> 00:04:49.800 He's going to share it with the rest of the world, 69 00:04:50.079 --> 00:04:53.839 at which point his sister kills him, dissolves his body, 70 00:04:54.279 --> 00:04:56.879 and then you know, it's like the end of the episode. 71 00:04:56.959 --> 00:04:59.680 She goes to demonstrate what one of the instruments and 72 00:04:59.720 --> 00:05:02.040 then and the instruments get turned off. She ends up 73 00:05:02.079 --> 00:05:05.680 killing herself. When they adapted it it for Tales from Tomorrow, 74 00:05:06.199 --> 00:05:08.560 it became a husband and wife team followed the story 75 00:05:08.759 --> 00:05:12.079 basically the same, except the woman kills him and then 76 00:05:13.160 --> 00:05:16.319 all of the instruments disappear. In a voice says, no 77 00:05:16.480 --> 00:05:18.920 one will be able to use as instruments if they've 78 00:05:18.959 --> 00:05:21.279 committed murder with them, even though they haven't set up 79 00:05:21.360 --> 00:05:22.920 at the beginning of the episode that they're from the 80 00:05:22.959 --> 00:05:25.279 future at all. I don't know. It's weird. So what 81 00:05:25.399 --> 00:05:28.079 we end up getting for Night Gallery is sort of 82 00:05:28.120 --> 00:05:31.759 a combination of the two stories, except they've given him 83 00:05:31.759 --> 00:05:34.040 instead of a sister or a wife, they've given him 84 00:05:34.079 --> 00:05:38.319 this chill Wills as this way too overbearing guy you 85 00:05:38.519 --> 00:05:40.439 just met on the street, who you're letting follow you 86 00:05:40.519 --> 00:05:43.360 everywhere and help make decisions for you, Mike, what do 87 00:05:43.439 --> 00:05:44.639 you think of this second boy? 88 00:05:44.879 --> 00:05:45.439 Oh boy? 89 00:05:45.800 --> 00:05:49.120 I mean, as soon as I see poor Burgess Meredith, 90 00:05:49.160 --> 00:05:51.160 I'm just like, Oh, he's going to get fucked over 91 00:05:51.279 --> 00:05:59.199 by fate, isn't he. Rod Serling just wanted him to suffer. Suffer, suffer, 92 00:05:59.319 --> 00:06:04.839 little man. I have talked many times on various podcasts 93 00:06:04.879 --> 00:06:08.839 about how I dislike when people played drunk. It takes 94 00:06:08.959 --> 00:06:12.399 a lot to play drunk very well, and man, when 95 00:06:12.480 --> 00:06:15.800 these two hobos just start going at it at the beginning, 96 00:06:15.879 --> 00:06:19.560 I'm just like, oh boy, I just was not a 97 00:06:19.639 --> 00:06:21.680 big fan. I was more of a fan of the 98 00:06:21.879 --> 00:06:26.639 twenty ninety nine guy, kind of enjoying that. I was 99 00:06:26.680 --> 00:06:30.560 surprised that not, because so many of these stories that 100 00:06:30.680 --> 00:06:35.560 we've dealt with have felt like almost some turn of 101 00:06:35.639 --> 00:06:39.360 the century or like did century kind of stuff. 102 00:06:40.279 --> 00:06:42.199 Yeah, I think, you know, I think a lot of 103 00:06:42.240 --> 00:06:45.399 it has to do with the you know, I hate 104 00:06:45.439 --> 00:06:48.240 to keep hammering on Rod Sterling, but like the level 105 00:06:48.279 --> 00:06:51.879 of writing tends to be like nineteen thirties, Like he 106 00:06:52.040 --> 00:06:54.560 just sort of never particularly when it comes to someone 107 00:06:54.639 --> 00:06:57.040 on the outliers or it was an outlier of society, 108 00:06:57.160 --> 00:07:01.240 like like a homeless man or something like like Rod 109 00:07:01.279 --> 00:07:03.920 Serling has a pattern in his head that that's what 110 00:07:04.040 --> 00:07:07.120 that type of character sounds like, and so we end 111 00:07:07.240 --> 00:07:10.000 up feeling like it's from another time itself. So I 112 00:07:10.160 --> 00:07:11.639 don't know if that's what you were saying, Mike, but 113 00:07:11.759 --> 00:07:14.240 that that's the feeling I get as far as like 114 00:07:14.360 --> 00:07:17.519 this episode feels like it's much like it shouldn't be 115 00:07:17.639 --> 00:07:19.199 nineteen seventy and we're watching this. 116 00:07:19.839 --> 00:07:22.800 Oh, this is what this is whatbo sound like. And 117 00:07:23.160 --> 00:07:25.439 you know they're probably on that tool Hoover Bill. 118 00:07:26.319 --> 00:07:29.279 Yeah, I'm surprised they didn't have vindals on sticks. 119 00:07:31.040 --> 00:07:33.759 With like the threell broths of beard. 120 00:07:34.000 --> 00:07:37.360 Yeah, it's in like a cigar on a toothpick. There 121 00:07:37.399 --> 00:07:41.439 you go, found this cannabeans Chris. 122 00:07:41.360 --> 00:07:46.040 What you think, Hey, weird reality together? It couldn't be 123 00:07:46.279 --> 00:07:47.800 who've had Okay. 124 00:07:47.560 --> 00:07:49.279 And there are so many times when he could have 125 00:07:49.360 --> 00:07:52.279 gotten away from Chilwell. It's like, you know, yeah, I 126 00:07:52.399 --> 00:07:54.439 know he was fascinated by the bag to the point 127 00:07:54.480 --> 00:07:57.720 where he was sort of like distracted by uh or 128 00:07:58.399 --> 00:08:01.000 didn't recognize everything going on around him. Maybe, but like 129 00:08:01.279 --> 00:08:05.240 at a certain point, like this guy's means you harm dude, run. 130 00:08:05.360 --> 00:08:07.759 Has that thing that they can only do in movies 131 00:08:08.199 --> 00:08:13.879 where it's like one character is themselves and then the 132 00:08:14.000 --> 00:08:18.279 other character is standing behind them saying they're plent loud 133 00:08:19.000 --> 00:08:23.120 sharpens knife off screen. There's no subtlety to it, dare 134 00:08:23.160 --> 00:08:25.040 I say, even inches in earshot. 135 00:08:25.639 --> 00:08:28.560 It was great to see George Firth in this episode. 136 00:08:28.600 --> 00:08:33.600 He's the technician running the future teleportation machine. I guess 137 00:08:34.360 --> 00:08:36.679 he's alwayshilarious, and of course he was great in Blazing 138 00:08:36.799 --> 00:08:38.519 Saddles the Fool's going. 139 00:08:39.600 --> 00:08:42.720 He's great. I mean, he's not given much to do here, 140 00:08:43.279 --> 00:08:45.360 but I recognized him from Blazing Sat. 141 00:08:45.720 --> 00:08:47.799 He's not only not given much to do here, but 142 00:08:47.919 --> 00:08:51.000 like I found myself thinking back to that guy and 143 00:08:51.120 --> 00:08:52.919 wondering what he was up to during the rest of 144 00:08:52.960 --> 00:08:57.440 this episode. Right, it's good lord, and like you know there. 145 00:08:57.559 --> 00:09:00.799 I thought Serling innovated a lot of a lot of 146 00:09:00.840 --> 00:09:02.919 things in the episode, as far as like keeping it 147 00:09:03.279 --> 00:09:05.360 on a clock as opposed to you know, the short 148 00:09:05.399 --> 00:09:07.799 story he like eventually makes a clinic and he gets 149 00:09:07.840 --> 00:09:11.919 a clientele and everything, and then the original adaptation was garbage. 150 00:09:12.000 --> 00:09:15.159 So I liked the immediacy of having him treating the 151 00:09:15.440 --> 00:09:19.519 other like homeless people at the shelter, like and figuring 152 00:09:19.600 --> 00:09:22.759 out what everything was all in one location. I thought 153 00:09:22.759 --> 00:09:25.799 that was really good, but nothing really happens there and 154 00:09:25.879 --> 00:09:26.879 I hated everybody. 155 00:09:28.799 --> 00:09:30.039 I think for me, it just goes back to the 156 00:09:30.120 --> 00:09:32.679 idea that Burgess Meredith could have left it at a point. 157 00:09:32.600 --> 00:09:35.240 Like yeah, oh yeah. Ultimately, when you have a character 158 00:09:35.360 --> 00:09:40.120 doing stupid things continuously, how are we supposed to follow 159 00:09:40.159 --> 00:09:42.559 you at after a certain point? 160 00:09:42.639 --> 00:09:42.799 You know? 161 00:09:43.279 --> 00:09:46.679 As I said, clearly Chilwell's meant him harm and I 162 00:09:46.720 --> 00:09:48.519 don't know how he wasn't able to recognize it the 163 00:09:48.559 --> 00:09:48.960 all time. 164 00:09:49.039 --> 00:09:52.039 So I was happy to see Arthur is A Mallett 165 00:09:52.200 --> 00:09:55.360 who I mostly know him as is that mister Brisbee 166 00:09:55.600 --> 00:09:59.399 from Secret of Nim And I think, yes, yeh, he 167 00:09:59.519 --> 00:10:02.159 was in and other things, but I mostly know him 168 00:10:02.200 --> 00:10:04.279 for his voice work. So as soon as he started 169 00:10:04.320 --> 00:10:07.200 to speak, I was like, whoa, Okay. 170 00:10:07.120 --> 00:10:09.440 Yeah, I mean, I don't think this episode really brought 171 00:10:09.600 --> 00:10:13.519 anything to the time traveling genre or anything. And like, 172 00:10:14.080 --> 00:10:16.360 when I think about Rod Serling sometimes I think, like, 173 00:10:17.200 --> 00:10:19.639 I don't understand how he had time in the day 174 00:10:19.720 --> 00:10:22.600 to do anything, considering how many scripts he was writing, 175 00:10:22.679 --> 00:10:25.080 and like how many stories he had to even read 176 00:10:25.159 --> 00:10:27.279 to get to the point where he wanted to adapt one, 177 00:10:27.399 --> 00:10:30.120 so they all can't be winners. This one definitely isn't 178 00:10:30.159 --> 00:10:30.320 for me. 179 00:10:30.440 --> 00:10:32.480 Not the last time we'll see Arthur Mallett, because he 180 00:10:32.559 --> 00:10:33.240 will come back. 181 00:10:33.840 --> 00:10:36.600 This episode. We're talking about Season two, episode two, which 182 00:10:36.679 --> 00:10:39.279 aired on September the twenty second, nineteen seventy one, and 183 00:10:39.399 --> 00:10:42.440 was broken into four segments, Death in the Family, the 184 00:10:42.600 --> 00:10:45.720 Merciful Class of ninety nine, and which's Feast. 185 00:10:46.360 --> 00:10:46.519 Now. 186 00:10:47.200 --> 00:10:50.799 Since the creative team is pretty much in place for 187 00:10:51.000 --> 00:10:52.559 Night Gallery, it's the one that is going to be 188 00:10:52.679 --> 00:10:55.080 rotating around. I want to take a moment to highlight 189 00:10:55.200 --> 00:10:57.360 a couple of people behind and in front of the 190 00:10:57.440 --> 00:11:00.039 scenes here that we're going to be dealing with in 191 00:11:00.120 --> 00:11:04.559 this case. This episode's MVP is a guy named Jeno Juark, 192 00:11:05.039 --> 00:11:07.840 who is the director. He basically directed the entire episode 193 00:11:07.840 --> 00:11:09.559 except for one little blackout sketch at the end. He 194 00:11:09.639 --> 00:11:12.039 directed a bunch last season. He's going to direct a 195 00:11:12.279 --> 00:11:15.320 bunch more. If anything works in this episode, it's because 196 00:11:15.320 --> 00:11:17.399 of this guy. He came up at the sort of 197 00:11:17.440 --> 00:11:19.960 the same time as Spielberg, and Spielberg obviously shot past 198 00:11:20.080 --> 00:11:22.559 him and took over the world. But when it was 199 00:11:22.639 --> 00:11:25.480 time to make Jaws two, which I think is a 200 00:11:25.559 --> 00:11:27.320 really good movie. That movie get shpped on a lot, 201 00:11:27.360 --> 00:11:29.559 but I think it's fantastic. I think it's like Aliens 202 00:11:29.600 --> 00:11:32.120 to Alien and Jeno. Swark did that. He did the 203 00:11:32.279 --> 00:11:35.559 only decent adaptation of a Richard Matheson novel as far 204 00:11:35.600 --> 00:11:37.399 as I'm concerned, which is a movie called Somewhere in 205 00:11:37.480 --> 00:11:39.440 Time with Christopher Reed. And then he ended up on 206 00:11:39.679 --> 00:11:42.399 mainly on television, and I adored him, and we get 207 00:11:42.440 --> 00:11:44.360 to see him here, and he's really creative. So I 208 00:11:44.480 --> 00:11:45.720 just wanted a one of the and he. 209 00:11:45.799 --> 00:11:48.720 Did Red Snow and The Last Offender of Camelot on 210 00:11:48.799 --> 00:11:50.240 nineteen eighty five, twilight Zone. 211 00:11:50.480 --> 00:11:54.120 Listen, yeah, every piece of enter Why. 212 00:11:54.080 --> 00:11:55.840 You just like you left it out. I just wanted 213 00:11:55.879 --> 00:11:58.639 to make sure we didn't forget. Since we've already mentioned 214 00:11:58.679 --> 00:12:00.120 twilight Zone nineteen eighty five. 215 00:12:00.320 --> 00:12:02.639 I'm not pointing out that he made Supergirl either, but 216 00:12:02.960 --> 00:12:03.399 you know, I. 217 00:12:03.399 --> 00:12:06.279 Think you just you just Barbarstriis and him right there. 218 00:12:06.480 --> 00:12:09.120 Oh boy, don't look at my house, don't do it. 219 00:12:10.039 --> 00:12:11.000 You know what this is. 220 00:12:11.200 --> 00:12:13.600 This is a creative guy. And given this year's deadlines, 221 00:12:13.600 --> 00:12:15.240 which we're gonna have to talk about a little bit more. 222 00:12:15.440 --> 00:12:17.200 I think he did an amazing. 223 00:12:16.879 --> 00:12:19.399 Job here, and he directed an episode of Colombo. I'm 224 00:12:19.399 --> 00:12:22.279 sure he did lovely but lethal, which we have not 225 00:12:22.399 --> 00:12:22.799 gotten to. 226 00:12:22.919 --> 00:12:25.559 Yet, not yet. No, Now, I've reached out to him 227 00:12:25.600 --> 00:12:28.240 several times, have yet to hear back from him. So 228 00:12:28.639 --> 00:12:30.480 hopefully fingers crossed one of these days. 229 00:12:30.679 --> 00:12:31.159 Let him know. 230 00:12:31.360 --> 00:12:35.519 A little American Gothic here, with the accustomed accouterman's toll, 231 00:12:35.559 --> 00:12:40.399 mourning tombstones and tears, and the somber look of the bereathed. 232 00:12:41.039 --> 00:12:43.960 We generally cry at funerals out of a sense of loss. 233 00:12:44.639 --> 00:12:47.679 A poor, unfortunate loved one will no longer walk the earth. 234 00:12:48.200 --> 00:12:50.399 He or she will simply occupy six feet of it, 235 00:12:50.960 --> 00:12:53.399 never to be seen or heard from again. Or at 236 00:12:53.480 --> 00:12:55.879 least we make an assumption that that's natural law, and 237 00:12:55.960 --> 00:12:59.279 we subscribe to it. But this painting here, and we 238 00:12:59.360 --> 00:13:02.879 admit this up front, breaks that law. It's called a 239 00:13:03.000 --> 00:13:05.639 death in the family. It offers up a new view 240 00:13:05.720 --> 00:13:08.799 of death, and it introduces you to quite a family 241 00:13:09.240 --> 00:13:10.840 who lives here in the. 242 00:13:10.919 --> 00:13:13.879 Night gallery anyway. Death in the Family was written by 243 00:13:14.039 --> 00:13:16.720 Ron Serling based on a short story by Miriam Ellen 244 00:13:16.799 --> 00:13:20.679 de Ford and directed by jeanau Juark. This one stars E. G. 245 00:13:20.919 --> 00:13:24.039 Marshall and Desi Arnezz j. 246 00:13:25.279 --> 00:13:27.799 We just saw him last month in Marco the The 247 00:13:28.000 --> 00:13:31.960 Rankin and Bass Musical featuring Desi Arnez Junior as Marco pol. 248 00:13:32.039 --> 00:13:33.279 I must have missed that one. 249 00:13:34.559 --> 00:13:35.960 I wouldn't say you're missing it, Bob. 250 00:13:38.159 --> 00:13:40.080 This one is the tale of an escaped convict who 251 00:13:40.120 --> 00:13:43.080 takes refuge in a lively funeral home. And this also 252 00:13:43.159 --> 00:13:46.320 continues our longest running segment here in the show, which 253 00:13:46.399 --> 00:13:49.000 is please Rod Serling no more, for he's a jolly 254 00:13:49.039 --> 00:13:50.559 good fellow. We fucking. 255 00:13:52.799 --> 00:13:55.679 Even my wife picked up on that. She's like, oh God, 256 00:13:55.799 --> 00:13:56.320 not again. 257 00:13:57.720 --> 00:13:58.120 That's right. 258 00:13:58.480 --> 00:14:00.720 They're tearing down Tim Riley's God. 259 00:14:00.840 --> 00:14:03.759 That's and I've only started counting at Tim Riley's Bar. 260 00:14:03.840 --> 00:14:06.320 But I guarantee you, if if I dug back again, 261 00:14:06.399 --> 00:14:08.600 there would have been another episode. And I guarantee you 262 00:14:08.639 --> 00:14:10.240 there's another one on the way, So anyway, I'm keeping 263 00:14:10.320 --> 00:14:12.080 count now. Mike, what'd you think of this one? 264 00:14:12.559 --> 00:14:12.799 Yeah? 265 00:14:14.879 --> 00:14:19.480 Yeah, uh yeah yeah. 266 00:14:20.799 --> 00:14:22.360 Was this the one that you told me, Mike to 267 00:14:22.480 --> 00:14:24.200 watch for the ending because you didn't understand what was 268 00:14:24.240 --> 00:14:26.120 going on or was it another one? This was the one? 269 00:14:26.320 --> 00:14:28.320 This was the Okay, I'm just making sure. Yeah, okay, 270 00:14:28.759 --> 00:14:29.919 I was really hoping that E. G. 271 00:14:30.080 --> 00:14:32.879 Marshall was going to be like threatened by cock broaches 272 00:14:33.120 --> 00:14:41.200 or something. But yeah, I I like the first part 273 00:14:41.240 --> 00:14:44.480 of it. I like when it's, you know, lonely funeral 274 00:14:44.639 --> 00:14:48.159 home guy and this poor guy has died alone, and 275 00:14:48.279 --> 00:14:51.360 then they're bearing what feels like a very light coffin. 276 00:14:51.519 --> 00:14:53.559 So I'm like, oh, well, he kept the body, Okay, 277 00:14:53.639 --> 00:14:56.320 that makes sense. Then we find out that he has 278 00:14:57.000 --> 00:15:00.840 preserved him incredibly well, to the point where it almost 279 00:15:00.919 --> 00:15:05.720 looks like it's just an actor staying still rather than 280 00:15:05.759 --> 00:15:08.840 an actual corpse. I know that sounds weird, but I 281 00:15:08.919 --> 00:15:11.519 mean especial it's fantastic, not. 282 00:15:11.679 --> 00:15:13.320 Like we see that a lot in this episode. 283 00:15:13.399 --> 00:15:16.120 Now, oh boy, Yeah, when they were at the end 284 00:15:16.159 --> 00:15:18.480 of the episode and everybody had to not blink, it 285 00:15:18.600 --> 00:15:18.919 was great. 286 00:15:19.000 --> 00:15:24.360 And does Aerz Junior shows up and he's a wanted criminal. 287 00:15:24.399 --> 00:15:24.960 On the run. 288 00:15:25.519 --> 00:15:28.120 We don't really find out anything about him or what 289 00:15:28.320 --> 00:15:31.679 his whole motivation is. He just he finds that EJ. 290 00:15:31.840 --> 00:15:35.039 Marshall has the corpse there and he doesn't freak out 291 00:15:35.320 --> 00:15:38.120 appropriately enough for me. I think I would be much 292 00:15:38.200 --> 00:15:41.000 more freaked if I came into a funeral home and 293 00:15:41.279 --> 00:15:44.480 the funeral director just had a corpse sitting around with 294 00:15:44.639 --> 00:15:48.320 a party hat on and stuff. So yeah, and and 295 00:15:48.399 --> 00:15:51.320 then it just kind of goes on. It feels very 296 00:15:52.440 --> 00:15:55.720 rambly to me, even though it's not that long of 297 00:15:55.759 --> 00:15:56.519 a segment. 298 00:15:56.360 --> 00:15:58.159 Very loose in structure. Chris, what'd you think? 299 00:15:58.759 --> 00:16:01.960 I think, Yeah, it would echo everything that Mike just said. 300 00:16:02.240 --> 00:16:05.200 You know, you have Desi Ernes Junior not given much 301 00:16:05.240 --> 00:16:08.120 to do. E. G. Marshall, who, like Mike mentioned, I 302 00:16:08.279 --> 00:16:11.159 know him from all of one thing, which is my problem, 303 00:16:11.279 --> 00:16:14.039 not the show's problem, But I know him from Creep Show, 304 00:16:14.120 --> 00:16:17.039 which I mean that segment in Creep Show. I know 305 00:16:17.120 --> 00:16:19.279 how much you like that movie Father Malone. I enjoyed 306 00:16:19.320 --> 00:16:23.320 as well. That's my favorite segment in the movie. It's 307 00:16:23.360 --> 00:16:25.360 a good segment, and it's a great segment. And Eg 308 00:16:25.480 --> 00:16:28.240 Marshall's acting is one of the main reasons it's so 309 00:16:28.360 --> 00:16:32.080 good because he plays that character so well. All of 310 00:16:32.159 --> 00:16:37.320 that aside, man, what like what was the what what? What? 311 00:16:37.519 --> 00:16:37.559 What? 312 00:16:37.840 --> 00:16:38.840 What were they going for here? 313 00:16:39.039 --> 00:16:39.080 Like? 314 00:16:39.720 --> 00:16:42.200 Okay, so he has a bunch of people that he's 315 00:16:42.279 --> 00:16:46.000 created a family of It's like office killer but not good. 316 00:16:47.039 --> 00:16:50.480 I was like, it's like the same thing. I'm making 317 00:16:50.559 --> 00:16:52.799 a family of corpses to what end? 318 00:16:53.000 --> 00:16:55.200 Yeah, And at first I was like, is that really 319 00:16:55.279 --> 00:16:57.120 his father? I was like, no, that's gotta be the 320 00:16:57.279 --> 00:17:02.240 dude that he was preserving. So yeah, how so how 321 00:17:02.279 --> 00:17:04.279 does it that is? Does the arnas junior part of 322 00:17:04.319 --> 00:17:04.960 the family. 323 00:17:04.839 --> 00:17:05.240 Now he is? 324 00:17:05.960 --> 00:17:06.440 Now he is? 325 00:17:06.720 --> 00:17:10.960 Okay, they both die in that ensuing gun fight because 326 00:17:11.000 --> 00:17:12.519 he goes bang and then he's like, oha, I gotta 327 00:17:12.519 --> 00:17:15.119 shoot myself too. I think they the gun was fired 328 00:17:15.119 --> 00:17:17.119 while that well, there was a wrestling match going around 329 00:17:17.160 --> 00:17:20.759 and shot and then shot our man E. G. Marshall, 330 00:17:20.920 --> 00:17:25.000 and then Marshall was still alive enough to drag Arnez 331 00:17:25.079 --> 00:17:27.960 to his spot and before taking his own and then collapse. 332 00:17:28.480 --> 00:17:31.680 Oh there is in a nutshell. 333 00:17:31.440 --> 00:17:34.039 Long enough to talk to the cops and like, let 334 00:17:34.079 --> 00:17:36.440 the cops know what's going on, and and to have 335 00:17:36.599 --> 00:17:39.400 a moment where he's my son. 336 00:17:39.720 --> 00:17:41.920 I like that moment. I don't like that he died. 337 00:17:41.960 --> 00:17:45.119 Actually when it when I was not convinced that he 338 00:17:45.279 --> 00:17:49.519 was shot and sort of jabbering away and looking crazy. 339 00:17:49.559 --> 00:17:51.880 I thought, oh, this is good. I I appreciate an 340 00:17:51.960 --> 00:17:54.599 ending where someone has completely lost their mind, but now 341 00:17:54.720 --> 00:17:56.640 they had to throw it away and you know, punish 342 00:17:56.720 --> 00:17:58.279 him because Rod Serling wrote this script. 343 00:17:58.480 --> 00:18:01.680 But but you don't understand the ultimate punishment is deaf. 344 00:18:02.079 --> 00:18:03.519 You don't get like, you don't get that. 345 00:18:04.240 --> 00:18:08.119 No, the ultimate punishment is everyone respecting Rod enough to 346 00:18:08.240 --> 00:18:10.079 not touch his scripts that he got through, which is 347 00:18:10.160 --> 00:18:14.599 what I happened here with with mister Joir obviously didn't 348 00:18:14.680 --> 00:18:17.880 change a line and you know, followed the directions. The 349 00:18:18.000 --> 00:18:22.559 only sort of subversion to Serling's regular nonsense here is 350 00:18:22.720 --> 00:18:28.200 the music, which is Bonker's crazy cool and completely counterpoint 351 00:18:28.279 --> 00:18:31.319 to everything we're seeing on screen. It's like xylophones and 352 00:18:31.400 --> 00:18:35.400 flutes and it's really jaunty. It kind of it points 353 00:18:35.440 --> 00:18:37.400 to what this story actually wanted to be, which was 354 00:18:37.440 --> 00:18:40.799 a daylight horror story. Like Sirling can't help wrapping it 355 00:18:40.839 --> 00:18:43.960 in a fucking crumbling old mansion and there's a goddamn 356 00:18:44.079 --> 00:18:46.960 thunderstorm going on at night. Oh, by the way, I 357 00:18:47.079 --> 00:18:50.279 mentioned I want to mention a couple of like someone 358 00:18:50.319 --> 00:18:51.960 behind the scenes and someone in front of the scenes, 359 00:18:52.240 --> 00:18:54.359 someone in front of the scenes is in this segment. 360 00:18:54.640 --> 00:18:57.519 They've been a bunch of segments. We've already seen gonna 361 00:18:57.519 --> 00:18:59.400 be in a bunch of segments. It's one of the 362 00:18:59.480 --> 00:19:06.640 most famou things of all time. It's this that's called 363 00:19:06.759 --> 00:19:10.400 Castle Thunder, that was first hit the scene in nineteen 364 00:19:10.480 --> 00:19:14.000 thirty one. That sound effect was created for Frankenstein and 365 00:19:14.119 --> 00:19:17.680 has appeared in virtually every horror and science fiction story 366 00:19:17.759 --> 00:19:21.559 ever since. A lot in Scooby Doo and Gilligan's Island 367 00:19:21.599 --> 00:19:22.200 and everything all. 368 00:19:22.119 --> 00:19:23.119 Right to Frankenstein. 369 00:19:23.200 --> 00:19:26.000 I just heard it in that this thing pops up forever, 370 00:19:26.119 --> 00:19:28.640 So shout out, Castle Thunder. You don't get enough respect. 371 00:19:28.720 --> 00:19:30.240 And we all grew up listening to you. 372 00:19:30.599 --> 00:19:33.200 And I was waiting for Roddy mcdonwell to come into 373 00:19:33.240 --> 00:19:36.240 this episode, given that where it's set, like there's just 374 00:19:36.359 --> 00:19:38.559 one set on the universal back up that they shoot 375 00:19:38.559 --> 00:19:42.119 all these gothic oh boy, more episodes in Like that's 376 00:19:42.119 --> 00:19:46.559 what this feels like. So goddamn set bound again again 377 00:19:46.799 --> 00:19:48.240 again again again. 378 00:19:48.599 --> 00:19:52.480 So what's up with the stairwell? I mean, this stairwell 379 00:19:52.519 --> 00:19:55.559 shows up in the next segment, but then this stairwell 380 00:19:55.720 --> 00:19:58.400 is dressed with all of these empty frames. I mean 381 00:19:58.440 --> 00:20:01.079 you're right. I mean I'm waiting for to be like, oh, 382 00:20:01.160 --> 00:20:03.680 let me switch these out with another photo or something, 383 00:20:03.759 --> 00:20:05.599 but they're empty, and I'm just like, what are we 384 00:20:05.759 --> 00:20:07.759 going for here with the sect decoration? 385 00:20:08.160 --> 00:20:10.519 Do you remember father belowe that episode of Tales from 386 00:20:10.519 --> 00:20:12.480 the Crypt where it was like the writer in the 387 00:20:12.559 --> 00:20:15.200 apartment building and then the like he was like, I 388 00:20:15.279 --> 00:20:17.319 want this woman to fall in love with me, and 389 00:20:17.480 --> 00:20:21.440 so she does. And I remember you straight up saying 390 00:20:21.480 --> 00:20:23.799 when we did that episode, like, man, this show is 391 00:20:23.880 --> 00:20:25.119 so fucking set bound. 392 00:20:25.720 --> 00:20:26.799 So is this show now? 393 00:20:27.000 --> 00:20:30.640 Like this show needs to just like find another shoot 394 00:20:30.640 --> 00:20:33.480 it from another angle. Doesn't work anymore because it's like 395 00:20:33.599 --> 00:20:37.039 we're seeing literally the same set in two segments. 396 00:20:37.200 --> 00:20:41.519 Like what right now, that's us watching this show and 397 00:20:41.640 --> 00:20:44.799 noticing these things, and you know whatever, I'm being a 398 00:20:45.000 --> 00:20:47.960 jeno apologist right now because I think the shot it's 399 00:20:48.000 --> 00:20:50.440 actually beautifully shot. The guy knows where to put a camera, 400 00:20:50.480 --> 00:20:53.160 he knows how to light it. It felt as close 401 00:20:53.200 --> 00:20:54.759 to a film as you could get on a set 402 00:20:55.599 --> 00:20:57.799 and still match it with sort of the outside stuff. 403 00:20:58.000 --> 00:21:01.640 Speaking of the outside stuff, funeral scene. Okay, there's an 404 00:21:01.680 --> 00:21:05.359 opening sequence I'm gonna skip talking about like when we 405 00:21:05.440 --> 00:21:07.920 cut to EG Marshall at the burial of this corpse, 406 00:21:07.960 --> 00:21:10.720 these fakes putting into the ground, That's where this episode 407 00:21:10.720 --> 00:21:12.880 should have be gone and carried us from there. And 408 00:21:13.000 --> 00:21:16.680 then this should have been between Desiernez and him, like 409 00:21:17.200 --> 00:21:21.799 talking about their situation and these corpses around, because it 410 00:21:21.920 --> 00:21:25.200 turns into this, Like, first of all, it's another debate 411 00:21:25.319 --> 00:21:28.039 of surlings. At the beginning in the form of E. G. 412 00:21:28.200 --> 00:21:31.400 Marshall's character seems at least close to retirement. We can 413 00:21:31.480 --> 00:21:34.799 agree on that, right, not his first funeral, when would 414 00:21:34.880 --> 00:21:39.160 he ask anybody the questions he's asking them? But what 415 00:21:39.519 --> 00:21:40.599 about the flowers? 416 00:21:41.559 --> 00:21:42.200 Who will come in? 417 00:21:42.319 --> 00:21:42.480 More? 418 00:21:43.000 --> 00:21:44.240 Someone must pick music? 419 00:21:44.440 --> 00:21:45.240 Who will care? 420 00:21:45.960 --> 00:21:49.039 Like that's day one at the job at the funeral parlor, right, 421 00:21:49.240 --> 00:21:51.720 and then thirty forty years later you're just like, give 422 00:21:51.759 --> 00:21:55.279 me the corpse, thank you, goodbye. This crisis that he's 423 00:21:55.359 --> 00:21:58.759 having is just doesn't make any sense sort of character wise. 424 00:21:59.440 --> 00:22:02.200 No, he would be so jaded by this point. 425 00:22:02.200 --> 00:22:05.400 Right, very desensitized. He would be like speaking of tales 426 00:22:05.440 --> 00:22:07.920 from the crypt, he'd be like the punishment fits the crime. 427 00:22:08.039 --> 00:22:09.839 You remember that episode Bought Them Alone, where it's the 428 00:22:11.359 --> 00:22:13.720 funeral home, and it's the guy who's like swapping out 429 00:22:13.839 --> 00:22:16.880 legs and doing all kinds of terrible shit with the sneak, 430 00:22:16.960 --> 00:22:19.279 with the sneakers walking down the stairs. Oh my god, 431 00:22:19.319 --> 00:22:22.519 that's the way the character should be, like super disillusioned 432 00:22:22.640 --> 00:22:24.960 with all this. But then, but then you can't stell 433 00:22:25.359 --> 00:22:29.400 tell an empathetic story about a crazy person who has corpses. 434 00:22:29.039 --> 00:22:31.519 In his basement, Like what I could have gone with 435 00:22:31.599 --> 00:22:35.200 an empathetic e g. Marshall who also has bodies around 436 00:22:35.240 --> 00:22:37.160 because he's a lonely old man and like you know, 437 00:22:37.279 --> 00:22:38.920 thought they didn't get a fair shake in life, and 438 00:22:38.920 --> 00:22:40.759 he's gonna give him another one. That's not the story 439 00:22:40.920 --> 00:22:43.680 we got here. What we got was okay. I just 440 00:22:43.720 --> 00:22:45.400 want to say when Desion has first comes through the 441 00:22:45.440 --> 00:22:47.559 window and he's sopping wet and he looks like the 442 00:22:47.680 --> 00:22:51.440 nineteen seventies, like was starring on this show now, like 443 00:22:51.960 --> 00:22:54.720 you know, as much as Duark is sort of pushing 444 00:22:54.799 --> 00:22:58.640 against Serling's need to keep everything nineteen fifty five, which 445 00:22:58.720 --> 00:23:02.079 the episode, I mean, until Arnez pops through. If you 446 00:23:02.119 --> 00:23:04.039 told me it was fifty five, I believe you, because 447 00:23:04.160 --> 00:23:06.799 nothing else tells us that we're in the modern age. 448 00:23:07.119 --> 00:23:09.480 The speech Arnez gives them the couch. It's like the 449 00:23:09.599 --> 00:23:12.880 perfect distillation of everything I know. I keep kicking Rod 450 00:23:12.920 --> 00:23:15.400 Sterling guys, but he keeps doing it, so I'm going 451 00:23:15.440 --> 00:23:19.000 to keep hitting back. It's the perfect distillation of Sterling's 452 00:23:19.079 --> 00:23:22.920 sort of dialogue, which is the character recounts everything we've 453 00:23:23.119 --> 00:23:27.359 just seen and then tells us what it means. Right. 454 00:23:27.440 --> 00:23:30.279 It's like to asking the audience to be wistful about 455 00:23:30.319 --> 00:23:32.640 something we just saw thirty seconds ago. So it's like 456 00:23:32.720 --> 00:23:36.119 a imagine a guy like me, a convict on the 457 00:23:36.279 --> 00:23:38.359 run for murder, and I end up here at a 458 00:23:38.440 --> 00:23:41.319 funeral home and it's run by this cuckoo old man 459 00:23:41.359 --> 00:23:43.359 who loves life more than anything. Like, you know, I 460 00:23:43.400 --> 00:23:45.240 gotta throw a little hip lingo for the kids because 461 00:23:45.319 --> 00:23:49.240 Rod's connected still. But like like all that's and by 462 00:23:49.279 --> 00:23:51.559 the way, speaking of Arnez and at the risk of 463 00:23:51.640 --> 00:23:55.240 offending the guy who has Automan's number, Arnz Doinger is 464 00:23:55.279 --> 00:23:58.079 like the perfect distillation of what you expect the child 465 00:23:58.200 --> 00:24:01.319 of actors to be like when they're actually performing. There 466 00:24:01.359 --> 00:24:04.640 are exceptions, right, but you know, for every Michael Douglas, 467 00:24:04.720 --> 00:24:09.599 there like twenty Eric Douglas's right, they're like and it's 468 00:24:09.759 --> 00:24:12.480 it's they're so earnest, you know, and you don't want 469 00:24:12.519 --> 00:24:15.720 to fault them. But like, like acting is like mimicry 470 00:24:15.799 --> 00:24:18.880 of life, and the way actors kids act is like 471 00:24:19.240 --> 00:24:21.359 mimicry of acting. Does that make sense? 472 00:24:22.079 --> 00:24:22.480 I don't know. 473 00:24:22.799 --> 00:24:25.559 It's the I mean it, mister, get out of the 474 00:24:25.599 --> 00:24:26.799 way I made it. 475 00:24:27.680 --> 00:24:30.440 We weren't. We weren't singing the praises of desi Arnez 476 00:24:30.559 --> 00:24:33.240 Junior on the Marco podcast on the Rank and on 477 00:24:33.400 --> 00:24:35.720 Bass show that Mike and I host with our dear 478 00:24:35.759 --> 00:24:38.279 friend Richard HadAM. We were not singing his praises. He 479 00:24:38.440 --> 00:24:40.119 was the worst part of that movie. 480 00:24:40.359 --> 00:24:41.240 He's real bad here. 481 00:24:41.319 --> 00:24:41.640 It's there. 482 00:24:42.240 --> 00:24:44.759 Yeah, had he flown on a kite, that might have 483 00:24:44.839 --> 00:24:45.720 been something else. 484 00:24:45.880 --> 00:24:47.359 The whole time, might just in the. 485 00:24:48.839 --> 00:24:54.079 Like hello, old man, you crazy. Ruh, I'm gonna get you. 486 00:24:55.640 --> 00:24:58.200 I I hear everything that you're saying. For them alone, 487 00:24:58.519 --> 00:25:01.200 But I have to say, Classic Nice nine is worse. 488 00:25:01.759 --> 00:25:03.240 Oh it's worse. 489 00:25:04.079 --> 00:25:04.279 Is that? 490 00:25:04.759 --> 00:25:04.960 Yes? 491 00:25:05.319 --> 00:25:08.000 I think it is all right, I mean, but that's like, 492 00:25:08.440 --> 00:25:11.160 you know, Chris always talks about the world's tallest dwarf. 493 00:25:11.200 --> 00:25:16.000 It's like, whoa, yeah six the one happy Yeah right, 494 00:25:16.000 --> 00:25:16.240 I know. 495 00:25:16.640 --> 00:25:17.079 I get it. 496 00:25:18.000 --> 00:25:21.200 Yeah, I just uh, I think there was something maybe 497 00:25:21.480 --> 00:25:23.559 this Look, this was ultimately just a tail from the 498 00:25:23.599 --> 00:25:27.519 crypt like blackout, Like you know, this is what Rod 499 00:25:27.599 --> 00:25:29.839 thinks is really shocking and like and I'm sure that 500 00:25:30.319 --> 00:25:32.759 there was some problem with standards. You know, you want 501 00:25:32.799 --> 00:25:35.240 to show like a house full of corpses all setting 502 00:25:35.319 --> 00:25:37.519 up happily, like they couldn't go too far with it, 503 00:25:37.640 --> 00:25:40.279 but they didn't go at all far like you said, 504 00:25:40.319 --> 00:25:42.839 It's like it's clearly just a bunch of actors holding still, 505 00:25:43.559 --> 00:25:47.160 so there's no real scare there either. Anyway. Oh, also, 506 00:25:47.240 --> 00:25:51.279 did anyone noticed the last shout was reversed? Yes? Right, 507 00:25:51.359 --> 00:25:53.680 it was really unusual and off putting, but in a 508 00:25:54.000 --> 00:25:56.880 good way. Like I I've rewounded back and was like, 509 00:25:56.920 --> 00:25:59.039 what the what what was that like to look if 510 00:25:59.079 --> 00:26:01.839 the candles were flickering backwards? But I was right. The 511 00:26:01.920 --> 00:26:04.400 first time the comps backed out of the room, I went, wow, 512 00:26:04.480 --> 00:26:06.240 they I guess they were really shocked. 513 00:26:06.319 --> 00:26:11.359 But Grimboji. 514 00:26:12.799 --> 00:26:15.079 I was happy to see James be sicking in this. 515 00:26:15.319 --> 00:26:18.119 I always enjoy him even though he was so young 516 00:26:18.240 --> 00:26:20.559 in this. It's wild can you imagine. I mean, this 517 00:26:20.880 --> 00:26:22.680 was when did this one come out? 518 00:26:22.720 --> 00:26:25.759 Again? This was in nineteen seventy one, September. 519 00:26:26.000 --> 00:26:29.519 Wow, just three years later the Texas Chainsaw massacre would 520 00:26:29.599 --> 00:26:31.160 just copy this so much. 521 00:26:31.400 --> 00:26:36.799 Yeah, Tobe Hooper is on record as saying, yeah, Night Gallery. 522 00:26:37.119 --> 00:26:39.880 I was very inspired by the Death in the Family 523 00:26:40.000 --> 00:26:43.440 episode for Night Gallery. I knew it. It sounded like 524 00:26:43.599 --> 00:26:46.480 Toby Hooper was here, but no, he's still dead. That 525 00:26:46.759 --> 00:26:50.319 was just me doing a spot on Toby Hooper impersonation. 526 00:26:50.400 --> 00:26:57.160 It was pretty good, man, You really invoked him. It 527 00:26:57.240 --> 00:26:58.720 was an evocation of him. 528 00:26:58.839 --> 00:27:02.839 Yes, yes, all right. Our next segment it is uh segment. 529 00:27:02.880 --> 00:27:03.680 It's The Merciful. 530 00:27:04.519 --> 00:27:05.640 It's a minute and a half long. 531 00:27:05.720 --> 00:27:05.880 I know. 532 00:27:06.039 --> 00:27:08.720 It's written by Jack Lair, based on a short story 533 00:27:09.599 --> 00:27:13.119 by Charles L. Sweeney Junior. Indirected again by Jeno Joirk. 534 00:27:13.319 --> 00:27:17.160 This one is stars imaging Coca and King Donovan. It's 535 00:27:17.240 --> 00:27:20.720 basically just a twist on pose cask of Mantiato with 536 00:27:20.799 --> 00:27:24.640 a y or a wife, you know, breaking her husband 537 00:27:24.720 --> 00:27:25.640 in maybe. 538 00:27:26.799 --> 00:27:30.160 I mean yeah, And I mean they telegraphed this so 539 00:27:30.680 --> 00:27:33.119 early on. I was just like, Oh, he's not in 540 00:27:33.200 --> 00:27:33.599 the room. 541 00:27:33.880 --> 00:27:34.200 She is. 542 00:27:34.319 --> 00:27:37.119 She's bricking herself in. Yeah, and then it just goes 543 00:27:37.200 --> 00:27:41.799 on forever like oh god on and yeah. 544 00:27:41.680 --> 00:27:43.799 Phantom of what rantom of what opera? 545 00:27:43.960 --> 00:27:44.440 This is not? 546 00:27:45.200 --> 00:27:45.440 Yeah? 547 00:27:45.799 --> 00:27:50.680 Yeah, As she puts the final brick in and it 548 00:27:50.880 --> 00:27:53.480 just becomes completely sound proof. I was like, is that 549 00:27:53.680 --> 00:27:54.640 really how bricks work? 550 00:27:55.599 --> 00:27:56.039 Exactly? 551 00:27:56.759 --> 00:27:59.759 Also, doesn't the whole idea of the cask of a 552 00:28:00.119 --> 00:28:05.079 teato completely hinge on the idea that in the story 553 00:28:05.880 --> 00:28:11.359 he's tied up to the wall too, Because I don't 554 00:28:11.440 --> 00:28:15.440 know how much carpentry and brick lay y'all have done, 555 00:28:15.839 --> 00:28:20.039 but you can knock a wall over pretty easily, especially 556 00:28:20.240 --> 00:28:22.680 if now I'm just putting this out here. It's not 557 00:28:23.200 --> 00:28:24.359 dry yet. 558 00:28:26.119 --> 00:28:29.119 Unusual, but she's pretty willing. 559 00:28:29.599 --> 00:28:31.920 Well yeah, but in this, in this, in this story, 560 00:28:32.920 --> 00:28:35.319 like my point is, you get it? 561 00:28:38.319 --> 00:28:38.559 Yeah. 562 00:28:39.519 --> 00:28:43.359 So I actually felt a little weird watching it, like 563 00:28:44.079 --> 00:28:48.000 like imagining myself in the situation. But that's just nothing 564 00:28:48.039 --> 00:28:50.920 that that they did on screen. I just started to remember. 565 00:28:50.759 --> 00:28:51.839 Bricking yourself into it? 566 00:28:52.119 --> 00:28:53.960 How good it is the last line of that that 567 00:28:54.079 --> 00:28:56.400 s there is one of my favorite interactions of all time, 568 00:28:56.440 --> 00:29:00.200 because uh uh, Montressori is the one being while and 569 00:29:00.200 --> 00:29:02.039 he says, I for the love of God, and he 570 00:29:02.079 --> 00:29:04.960 says back very calmly, yes, for the love of God, 571 00:29:05.039 --> 00:29:07.119 and then he puts the last brick in. It's It's 572 00:29:07.200 --> 00:29:08.839 such a good line, and any time they film it, 573 00:29:08.960 --> 00:29:10.759 they always shout the line and I'm always like, no, 574 00:29:10.880 --> 00:29:12.720 just saying anyway, that was the mercy of Imaging Coca 575 00:29:12.759 --> 00:29:14.319 and King Donovan husband and wife. 576 00:29:14.400 --> 00:29:17.599 By the way, I mean ging Coca very very familiar 577 00:29:17.839 --> 00:29:22.480 to me, but not through regular channels. I think for me, 578 00:29:22.599 --> 00:29:26.720 it's her role as Shad or Shag and It's About 579 00:29:26.799 --> 00:29:30.240 Time was my entree into imaging Coca. 580 00:29:30.319 --> 00:29:30.559 Wow. 581 00:29:30.680 --> 00:29:33.880 I grew up knowing her only from National Lampoon's Vacation 582 00:29:34.759 --> 00:29:37.400 and then later got to see a bunch of Sid 583 00:29:37.519 --> 00:29:38.759 Caesar Show of shows. 584 00:29:39.160 --> 00:29:44.200 Oh she's amazing. Yeah, but uh, It's about Time probably 585 00:29:44.279 --> 00:29:46.440 one of the best TV theme songs. I mean it 586 00:29:46.599 --> 00:29:52.480 puts uh the other Sherwood Shorts film Sorry series to shame. 587 00:29:52.559 --> 00:29:54.640 Really, I know nothing of this show. 588 00:29:54.759 --> 00:29:57.279 It's about Time, but it's about space. Yeah, it's pretty great. 589 00:29:58.079 --> 00:30:00.640 I was just disappointed they didn't say rec we asim 590 00:30:00.680 --> 00:30:03.359 Pache at the end. I was waiting for it. Come on, 591 00:30:03.680 --> 00:30:06.160 give the give the goddamn source material a little bit 592 00:30:06.200 --> 00:30:10.079 more credit because it's good, because it's good. This isn't Yeah. 593 00:30:10.119 --> 00:30:11.680 What I think is funny is that this is based 594 00:30:11.720 --> 00:30:13.720 on a short story by somebody else. 595 00:30:13.799 --> 00:30:18.319 Like okay, like yeah, yeah, right, yeah, it's just I 596 00:30:18.440 --> 00:30:20.400 read guys. 597 00:30:20.759 --> 00:30:23.519 Yeah, what if? What if it's a husband and wife 598 00:30:23.559 --> 00:30:26.400 and she's doing it voluntarily? There, I wrote it. I 599 00:30:26.519 --> 00:30:29.839 wrote the story. Now onto Mike's favorite segment of this episode. 600 00:30:30.240 --> 00:30:31.960 This is Class of ninety. 601 00:30:31.799 --> 00:30:37.279 Nine, almost unusual graduation exercise. Now it's titled the Class 602 00:30:37.359 --> 00:30:41.799 of ninety nine. A set of numbers and the pearl eyes. 603 00:30:42.759 --> 00:30:44.839 We'll move behind them now to give you an idea 604 00:30:44.880 --> 00:30:47.839 why we call the place you are in the night Gallery. 605 00:30:48.079 --> 00:30:51.200 This is an original script by Rod Sarling. Can You Imagine? 606 00:30:51.759 --> 00:30:52.759 Oh I Can? 607 00:30:53.680 --> 00:30:58.880 Was directed directed by Janno Swark, starring Vincent Price, Brandon Wild, 608 00:30:59.079 --> 00:31:04.519 Hilly Hicks, and Randolph Mantooth. This concerns a graduating class's 609 00:31:04.599 --> 00:31:08.319 final examination and plumbs the depths of what it means 610 00:31:08.359 --> 00:31:09.000 to be human. 611 00:31:09.359 --> 00:31:14.839 Oh, it's plumbing something, it's plumbing it all right? Wow? 612 00:31:15.759 --> 00:31:19.519 Yeah, I had no idea what they were going for 613 00:31:19.920 --> 00:31:22.640 through most of this skit, and I'm just like, what 614 00:31:23.279 --> 00:31:24.559 is happening here. 615 00:31:24.839 --> 00:31:25.119 Just this. 616 00:31:26.839 --> 00:31:32.519 Vincent Price as this proctor for the final examination and 617 00:31:32.880 --> 00:31:36.759 asking all of these very bizarre questions. And I mean, 618 00:31:38.039 --> 00:31:41.720 I mean it was pure sirling when it became all 619 00:31:41.799 --> 00:31:44.640 about race for a few minutes. I mean it really 620 00:31:44.759 --> 00:31:46.960 was about race for I'd say two thirds of it. 621 00:31:47.240 --> 00:31:51.079 Once they start talking about this black gentleman that's in 622 00:31:51.200 --> 00:31:54.480 class and they start slapping each other, and I'm just like, 623 00:31:54.640 --> 00:31:58.599 what am I watching? What in the world is happening here? 624 00:31:59.680 --> 00:32:03.119 I was very happy. My wife was all about mister Mantooth. 625 00:32:03.279 --> 00:32:06.119 She's just, oh, is that is that Raymond Mantooth. I'm like, 626 00:32:06.480 --> 00:32:10.000 what the hell's Raymond man tooth? Like he was in 627 00:32:10.119 --> 00:32:13.400 emergency And I was like, wow, okay, I can really 628 00:32:13.480 --> 00:32:14.960 tell our age difference right now. 629 00:32:14.920 --> 00:32:19.440 Honey, Mike, please tell me you caught one for that. 630 00:32:23.279 --> 00:32:24.759 Honeyk it's because you're older than me. 631 00:32:27.400 --> 00:32:29.319 That's what you get from the cougar. 632 00:32:30.799 --> 00:32:33.200 An actual cougar. You're married to an. 633 00:32:33.319 --> 00:32:37.119 H Yeah, how do you think I got these scars? 634 00:32:42.039 --> 00:32:45.160 My Randolph man Tooth, not Raymond My bad. 635 00:32:47.279 --> 00:32:54.480 Fantastic. I felt like I could hear Rod Serling clucking 636 00:32:54.559 --> 00:32:57.680 his tongue at me while I was watching the episode. 637 00:32:58.519 --> 00:33:01.000 I'm glad he didn't use any ortis. I mean, that 638 00:33:01.160 --> 00:33:03.680 was my concern was he was gonna say something offensive 639 00:33:03.799 --> 00:33:06.079 or have one of the characters say something offensive, because 640 00:33:06.079 --> 00:33:07.680 it like verges on it, right. 641 00:33:08.160 --> 00:33:08.759 He wanted to. 642 00:33:10.640 --> 00:33:12.680 I want to say the I want to say it. 643 00:33:13.039 --> 00:33:17.680 Yeah, the what you're saying, Mike like that, it seems 644 00:33:17.720 --> 00:33:20.880 like heavily freighted towards the racism side, because when all 645 00:33:20.880 --> 00:33:22.599 I said and done, what we're dealing with here is 646 00:33:22.799 --> 00:33:25.119 a bunch of robots who are going to be sent 647 00:33:25.200 --> 00:33:27.920 out into Earth, but that has been devastated by some 648 00:33:28.039 --> 00:33:30.279 sort of apocalypse. This is the year nineteen ninety nine, 649 00:33:30.279 --> 00:33:32.599 and they're going to repopulate the Earth just the way 650 00:33:32.720 --> 00:33:37.119 humans would. So they're being taught to hate irrational and 651 00:33:37.400 --> 00:33:39.799 so when we get the first hate thing, it like 652 00:33:40.240 --> 00:33:42.039 the first example of it, it is it's like it's 653 00:33:42.079 --> 00:33:43.680 a sort of black and white thing, like give me 654 00:33:43.720 --> 00:33:45.839 a ridiculous reason to hate this guy, like, well he's 655 00:33:45.880 --> 00:33:47.880 black and I don't like him for these reasons. Then 656 00:33:47.920 --> 00:33:50.440 the second one it becomes about monetary or just sort 657 00:33:50.480 --> 00:33:53.119 of a little more aloof and then the last one 658 00:33:53.240 --> 00:33:56.160 is supposed to be the this makes no sense at all, 659 00:33:57.160 --> 00:34:00.720 like reason to hate somebody, And he just just folds 660 00:34:00.759 --> 00:34:03.400 back to racism because he picks an Asian kid. He 661 00:34:03.519 --> 00:34:06.799 picks Chang and like he says, well, there's no reason 662 00:34:06.839 --> 00:34:08.639 I hit him, but I hate him sort of specifically. 663 00:34:09.079 --> 00:34:11.920 So it what we're getting is a parable about race, 664 00:34:12.119 --> 00:34:15.400 and we're being told by Rod that racism is in 665 00:34:15.599 --> 00:34:20.840 hatred is taught. Like, oh my Rob, we get it, Rod, 666 00:34:20.880 --> 00:34:21.360 we get it. 667 00:34:22.559 --> 00:34:25.039 I don't feel like the meetings were just like, Rod, 668 00:34:26.400 --> 00:34:30.280 you can't do what you used to do, man, Like 669 00:34:30.519 --> 00:34:34.880 it doesn't work anymore. It hasn't worked since the last 670 00:34:35.000 --> 00:34:37.760 time the show worked, and the show worked, but it 671 00:34:37.840 --> 00:34:40.920 didn't work all the time either. And it's shocking to 672 00:34:41.039 --> 00:34:45.079 watch Rod Serling fall and continue to fall. It's not 673 00:34:45.199 --> 00:34:48.559 Rod Serling's Midnight Gallery anymore or night Gallery, but he's 674 00:34:48.599 --> 00:34:52.320 still involved heavily, and I wish he wasn't. Like I 675 00:34:52.440 --> 00:34:54.840 wish he wasn't. That's where I'm coming at. When I 676 00:34:54.920 --> 00:34:57.440 watch a segment like this, it's like, what the fuck 677 00:34:57.599 --> 00:34:57.760 is the. 678 00:34:57.760 --> 00:35:00.440 Point this script gone through? Two of his scripts got 679 00:35:00.480 --> 00:35:02.360 through here. He complained that like a lot of his 680 00:35:02.400 --> 00:35:04.920 script's being rejected or rewritten here. By the way, that's 681 00:35:04.920 --> 00:35:08.559 also a fallacy I've come to find out in further reading, 682 00:35:08.679 --> 00:35:14.000 like two of his scripts were rewritten like sort of 683 00:35:14.079 --> 00:35:17.639 ground up right like and everything else it's minor change. 684 00:35:17.639 --> 00:35:19.960 It's always sort of like dialogue or an actor improvised 685 00:35:20.000 --> 00:35:21.920 on the set, and they allowed it to sort of 686 00:35:22.039 --> 00:35:25.000 go through. So basically what he's dealing with here is 687 00:35:25.360 --> 00:35:28.440 his script either gets through and gets made or gets rejected. 688 00:35:28.800 --> 00:35:32.000 This is getting through what's getting rejected, right. 689 00:35:32.599 --> 00:35:37.920 I would question were the professors Were they robots? 690 00:35:38.480 --> 00:35:41.000 I think Vincent Price, Yeah, no, they have to be 691 00:35:41.119 --> 00:35:43.559 right because the whole I no, no, no, no, Vincent 692 00:35:43.599 --> 00:35:46.440 Price is a human and then they turn off the class. 693 00:35:46.440 --> 00:35:48.440 So I think they were human because they they mentioned 694 00:35:49.239 --> 00:35:53.039 in the really clumsy giant exposition dump of a finale 695 00:35:53.280 --> 00:35:57.400 at the fucking graduation ceremony. God man, like if he 696 00:35:57.440 --> 00:35:59.280 had just you know what, if they had left this 697 00:35:59.519 --> 00:36:02.480 ending iniguous and not had the finale thing it left, 698 00:36:02.639 --> 00:36:04.079 we were left going like what the fuck was that? 699 00:36:04.159 --> 00:36:05.760 It might have been something, but anyway, No, he has 700 00:36:05.760 --> 00:36:08.159 to hit the nail on the head. So he says 701 00:36:08.239 --> 00:36:13.119 that these androids or machines have been remade in humans 702 00:36:13.679 --> 00:36:17.519 image to repopulate the earth for them by that. Like, 703 00:36:18.000 --> 00:36:20.559 so I think there are still humans teaching them how 704 00:36:20.639 --> 00:36:24.559 to be properly human like in this you know, vicious 705 00:36:24.639 --> 00:36:28.480 and horrifying manner. So I think Vincent Price at least 706 00:36:28.639 --> 00:36:29.679 was human there. 707 00:36:30.039 --> 00:36:31.960 I was so glad they had Vincent Price in an 708 00:36:31.960 --> 00:36:34.679 episode of this show. And he did nothing. And this 709 00:36:34.800 --> 00:36:37.000 is the only episode segment he's in in the entire show. 710 00:36:37.280 --> 00:36:40.039 Yes, it's good to waste him. It's really good to. 711 00:36:40.039 --> 00:36:44.840 Waste Vincent fucking Price. Yeah, not Randolph Mantu, No, no, 712 00:36:45.039 --> 00:36:49.880 no Vincent. Like, why why cast Vincent Price? Like why 713 00:36:50.760 --> 00:36:54.360 anybody could have played that role? It doesn't lean on 714 00:36:54.480 --> 00:36:58.719 his strengths as a as an actor. It actually is 715 00:36:58.760 --> 00:37:01.880 strong and completely devoid the charisma that he normally has. 716 00:37:02.480 --> 00:37:07.519 I am shocked that just as the first segment was 717 00:37:07.639 --> 00:37:10.800 ripped off here, we have a reverse of this with 718 00:37:11.239 --> 00:37:14.159 Mark L. Lester's Class of nineteen ninety nine, which came 719 00:37:14.199 --> 00:37:17.000 out in nineteen ninety where it's the teachers who are 720 00:37:17.119 --> 00:37:19.599 robots and the students are all people. Oh my god, 721 00:37:19.679 --> 00:37:23.039 on where's the outrage about this? People? 722 00:37:23.159 --> 00:37:25.519 Come on, Reparations are necessary. 723 00:37:25.800 --> 00:37:28.519 Intellectual property has been stolen. 724 00:37:31.280 --> 00:37:36.440 Oh boy, Rod, Rod, Oh, I will say if there 725 00:37:36.519 --> 00:37:38.679 is anything impressive about this episode, like I thought, all 726 00:37:38.679 --> 00:37:40.719 the performance is really good. I think it's shot really well. 727 00:37:40.800 --> 00:37:43.840 It also should be noted that this entire episode, beginning 728 00:37:43.880 --> 00:37:48.559 to end rehearsal to final take, was half a day 729 00:37:48.599 --> 00:37:51.360 of filming. Oh wow, that's how much they take the 730 00:37:51.480 --> 00:37:55.199 time they gave shocking shocking, So that means they spent 731 00:37:55.360 --> 00:37:58.920 like a couple hours maybe rehearsing, and then another two 732 00:37:59.000 --> 00:38:01.199 and a half to three filming, And this is what 733 00:38:01.239 --> 00:38:06.000 we got in that regard. This is fucking incredible. Oh yeah, yeah. 734 00:38:06.119 --> 00:38:08.400 If you were to turn the sound off and not 735 00:38:08.559 --> 00:38:10.119 have to listen to anything they were saying and you 736 00:38:10.159 --> 00:38:13.360 will be like, yeah, that's pretty good. Anyway, anything else 737 00:38:13.400 --> 00:38:14.320 on this one, gents. 738 00:38:14.360 --> 00:38:16.880 Oh, I did really quickly want to go back for 739 00:38:17.000 --> 00:38:22.079 a second. I apologize about this severely. Chris, our good 740 00:38:22.159 --> 00:38:26.000 friend Nome Pilick is in the Death and the Family episode, 741 00:38:26.320 --> 00:38:29.119 the man who has given us so many hours of 742 00:38:29.280 --> 00:38:33.199 entertainment as the director of Barney Miller episodes and also 743 00:38:33.840 --> 00:38:37.400 the director of Taxi episodes their father alone, so he 744 00:38:37.679 --> 00:38:42.440 is the driver in the Death in the Family segment. 745 00:38:43.199 --> 00:38:44.920 At the one at the beginning, the one dropping off 746 00:38:44.960 --> 00:38:47.360 the corpse. Yeah, oh wow, the one who I went, 747 00:38:47.599 --> 00:38:50.159 oh my god, is that Frank stillone? And then he 748 00:38:50.239 --> 00:38:52.280 started acting really well and I went, oh no, it's 749 00:38:52.320 --> 00:38:52.760 not friend. 750 00:38:52.639 --> 00:38:55.719 Sty snapping his fingers. Take it back. 751 00:38:58.679 --> 00:38:59.159 Sixteen. 752 00:38:59.559 --> 00:39:05.119 Yeah, even an acting powerhouse then yeah, of course, thank 753 00:39:05.199 --> 00:39:06.119 god he wasn't. 754 00:39:08.280 --> 00:39:11.679 All right. Off to our next segment, which, again, you're 755 00:39:11.719 --> 00:39:14.320 not gonna hear a an introduction on this. You're not 756 00:39:14.320 --> 00:39:16.679 gonna hear an introduction on most of them. Why because 757 00:39:16.840 --> 00:39:19.800 Rod didn't want to. But this was called with apologies 758 00:39:19.880 --> 00:39:23.039 to mister Hyde, written by Jack Laird, directed by the 759 00:39:23.159 --> 00:39:26.960 Senator Jena Schwark. It's really hard to say, but it's 760 00:39:27.000 --> 00:39:30.480 worth saying. This one stars Adam West and Jack Laird. 761 00:39:30.760 --> 00:39:33.119 This is the play a Playboy magazine cartoon from the 762 00:39:33.159 --> 00:39:34.000 October issue. 763 00:39:34.039 --> 00:39:35.280 It's oh boy, Yeah. 764 00:39:36.000 --> 00:39:39.039 You guys want to I love Adam West, just not 765 00:39:39.239 --> 00:39:39.440 in this. 766 00:39:39.960 --> 00:39:41.239 He doesn't do a bad job. 767 00:39:41.639 --> 00:39:44.679 Could have been anybody. It feels like he was there 768 00:39:44.760 --> 00:39:48.559 so they could go this week's episode. Yeah, Adam West 769 00:39:49.039 --> 00:39:52.360 for two. So he's in that on this episode of 770 00:39:52.400 --> 00:39:55.639 the Twilight Zone or Night Gallery. He's on that longer 771 00:39:55.679 --> 00:39:56.079 than he's in. 772 00:39:56.079 --> 00:39:56.880 The actual episode. 773 00:39:58.920 --> 00:40:02.000 You over promise than under delivered, and yeah, it's a gag. 774 00:40:02.480 --> 00:40:07.199 It's fine. It comes and it goes as quickly as 775 00:40:07.320 --> 00:40:09.239 I wanted it to, which is to say it was 776 00:40:09.320 --> 00:40:11.880 like thirty seconds effectively, is what it felt like. So good. 777 00:40:12.119 --> 00:40:14.039 Yeah, you can't stay mad at these things because they're 778 00:40:14.079 --> 00:40:16.880 not around long enough for that to for them really registered. 779 00:40:17.039 --> 00:40:19.360 And Plus in this case, it seems like Jack Laird 780 00:40:19.360 --> 00:40:21.440 and Adam Western just drinking buddies and they probably had 781 00:40:21.480 --> 00:40:23.679 the right conversation and when come to work tomorrow, we'll 782 00:40:23.719 --> 00:40:23.920 do this. 783 00:40:24.119 --> 00:40:26.400 You want to make segmentimum, Sign me up. 784 00:40:26.639 --> 00:40:29.320 I watched an interview with Jeno Schwark and he was 785 00:40:29.360 --> 00:40:32.079 saying how the Class of ninety nine episode, like the 786 00:40:32.199 --> 00:40:34.079 half a day he got to film that that wasn't 787 00:40:34.239 --> 00:40:37.840 that common. But if you were getting an assigned a 788 00:40:37.960 --> 00:40:39.800 blackout sketch, you had two hours. 789 00:40:40.400 --> 00:40:44.400 That's so you should start these Eneau Swark cast. I'm 790 00:40:44.440 --> 00:40:47.559 gonna a deep dive into the career of Jeneau Swark. 791 00:40:47.880 --> 00:40:50.719 You know, you can admire somebody and not be a 792 00:40:50.840 --> 00:40:53.360 fanatic about them. I don't have to talk about him 793 00:40:53.360 --> 00:40:54.679 every week. He knows I love him. 794 00:40:56.800 --> 00:40:58.039 The fan club of one. 795 00:40:58.119 --> 00:40:59.920 He doesn't, he will, because I'm going to forward the 796 00:41:00.159 --> 00:41:02.079 to him. We're gonna work. We're gonna get in touch 797 00:41:02.119 --> 00:41:02.679 with you now. 798 00:41:02.800 --> 00:41:04.679 As long as if you can, if you can somehow 799 00:41:04.760 --> 00:41:06.960 manage to get Mike White to talk to you know, 800 00:41:07.039 --> 00:41:08.719 swark along with yourself as a success. 801 00:41:08.920 --> 00:41:12.280 Listen, Mike can speak for me as my proxy, just 802 00:41:12.280 --> 00:41:14.159 as long as he knows that there's a fucking lunatic 803 00:41:14.239 --> 00:41:16.519 out there, nam Father Malone who's one of his biggest fans. 804 00:41:17.039 --> 00:41:19.920 And like Annie Wilkes, now that's. 805 00:41:20.199 --> 00:41:22.800 Oh yeah, like Annie Wilkes, I'm your number one fan. 806 00:41:23.159 --> 00:41:26.440 The wife didn't drink the cock of duty tea, right, 807 00:41:28.320 --> 00:41:30.679 which I now know what that is in reference to, 808 00:41:30.880 --> 00:41:33.280 so all those times before eyes sat and didn't say anything. 809 00:41:33.639 --> 00:41:34.280 Now I get it. 810 00:41:34.440 --> 00:41:35.440 It's a it's a good movie. 811 00:41:35.719 --> 00:41:37.039 He's very good. You know. 812 00:41:37.119 --> 00:41:39.599 I'm gonna encourage beyond you. I'm gonna encourage our listeners 813 00:41:39.639 --> 00:41:40.440 to watch Misery. 814 00:41:42.039 --> 00:41:44.000 If you have HBO Max, you should watch it on 815 00:41:44.079 --> 00:41:47.960 there because they have a TCM intro with Rob Reiner, 816 00:41:48.199 --> 00:41:50.480 Oh nice, where he talks about like ten minutes about 817 00:41:50.480 --> 00:41:53.920 the movie Wow on Zoom Essentially. 818 00:41:55.280 --> 00:41:58.440 Just like in his office if we contacted him now, 819 00:41:58.480 --> 00:42:01.360 I bet he would tell us some stories. Hey, Ron God, 820 00:42:01.480 --> 00:42:02.920 I just looked at him and I thought, let's put 821 00:42:02.960 --> 00:42:05.280 him in a bed, like, let's take all the physicality 822 00:42:05.320 --> 00:42:05.639 out of him. 823 00:42:05.639 --> 00:42:08.960 Anyway, from this picture, one wouldn't necessarily conjure up the 824 00:42:09.039 --> 00:42:12.599 story of love. But that's precisely what it tell us about. 825 00:42:13.159 --> 00:42:16.199 The emotion as old as man, but the object of 826 00:42:16.320 --> 00:42:19.960 the emotion this is not quite as familiar. It's titled 827 00:42:20.119 --> 00:42:24.199 Phantom Farmhouse, offering number one in the Night Gallery. 828 00:42:25.360 --> 00:42:27.920 Now, the first segment is called the Phantom Farmhouse. This 829 00:42:28.039 --> 00:42:30.679 is written by Halston Wells, based on a short story 830 00:42:30.760 --> 00:42:35.559 by Seabury Quinn and directed by Jeno Jouirk starts David McCallum, 831 00:42:35.679 --> 00:42:40.119 David Carrodine, Linda Marsh, Trina Parks, and Bill Quinn. I 832 00:42:40.199 --> 00:42:41.840 just want to point him out because the entire are 833 00:42:41.880 --> 00:42:44.199 you guys at all familiar with the ventriloquis by the 834 00:42:44.280 --> 00:42:47.440 name of Jeff Dunham. He's got this old man character 835 00:42:47.519 --> 00:42:50.519 named Walter, who Bill Quinn just looks like the living 836 00:42:50.599 --> 00:42:51.679 embodiment of it. 837 00:42:51.800 --> 00:42:54.960 Was very odd. Thanks for reminding me that Jef Dunham exists. 838 00:42:55.079 --> 00:42:56.719 I know. Look, I didn't want to bring him up 839 00:42:56.840 --> 00:42:58.280 or promotion anyway. 840 00:42:57.960 --> 00:43:00.719 But Las Vegas is own Jeff Dunham. 841 00:43:00.760 --> 00:43:04.079 You mean that's ready the hometown boy. Now, this story 842 00:43:04.119 --> 00:43:09.480 concerns an unorthodox psychiatrist who investigates the mysterious murders plaguing 843 00:43:09.519 --> 00:43:12.599 his patients, and there are wolves involved. What do you 844 00:43:12.679 --> 00:43:13.400 think of this one, Mike? 845 00:43:13.719 --> 00:43:18.639 I felt this this segment made me feel stupid because 846 00:43:18.679 --> 00:43:22.159 I could not figure out what the heck was going on. 847 00:43:22.519 --> 00:43:28.559 All these people in this tree and David Kearndy maybe 848 00:43:28.559 --> 00:43:33.320 he's a Satanist. I don't know, like what, Please just 849 00:43:33.480 --> 00:43:35.880 please explain this one to me, because I just was 850 00:43:36.119 --> 00:43:37.800 not getting this one at all. 851 00:43:38.119 --> 00:43:40.039 It's very confused, but. 852 00:43:41.519 --> 00:43:43.119 Of itself is confused. 853 00:43:43.320 --> 00:43:44.880 But here's what happened. 854 00:43:46.000 --> 00:43:46.599 Bear with me. 855 00:43:47.440 --> 00:43:48.280 I'm ready. 856 00:43:48.400 --> 00:43:51.079 I'm ready for this, listeners. I didn't come up with this, 857 00:43:51.239 --> 00:43:51.679 all right. 858 00:43:51.880 --> 00:43:55.239 So no, somebody by the name of Seabury Quinn did. 859 00:43:55.400 --> 00:43:58.480 And then somebody named Halsted Wells adapted it. Then somebody 860 00:43:58.559 --> 00:44:01.519 named Jeno Swark directed it. Those three names together should 861 00:44:01.519 --> 00:44:05.239 give you an idea of the well where we're going 862 00:44:05.320 --> 00:44:07.039 with this. It's pretty all over the pace. 863 00:44:07.199 --> 00:44:09.119 You know what, though, if you read the original short story, 864 00:44:09.159 --> 00:44:12.440 Seabury Quinn who was not like he was a writer, 865 00:44:12.800 --> 00:44:15.000 Like all of his contemporaries were the weird Tales guy. 866 00:44:15.079 --> 00:44:18.519 So it's like Roberty Howard and you know he Lovecraft 867 00:44:18.599 --> 00:44:20.760 and yeah, like all all of the sort of the 868 00:44:21.079 --> 00:44:24.440 giants as it were. And he created a character named 869 00:44:24.599 --> 00:44:28.480 like Jules de Granden, who is like a paranormal investigator, 870 00:44:29.000 --> 00:44:30.840 and he's got like a whole series of these stories 871 00:44:30.880 --> 00:44:33.440 that they're all great. In addition to that, Seabury Quinn 872 00:44:33.599 --> 00:44:37.920 was like a mortuary like law lawyer, like that was 873 00:44:37.960 --> 00:44:41.320 his primary function. Like he published a magazine called Caskets 874 00:44:41.360 --> 00:44:42.719 and Sunshine or something. 875 00:44:43.079 --> 00:44:43.360 Wow. 876 00:44:44.760 --> 00:44:47.480 And if you read the original story, it's much more simplified. 877 00:44:47.480 --> 00:44:49.440 I'll give you the short story version and that'll and 878 00:44:49.599 --> 00:44:52.079 you'll understand exactly what it is. This guy checks into 879 00:44:52.159 --> 00:44:54.800 a checks himself into an asylum in Maine in this 880 00:44:54.960 --> 00:44:57.320 case right, which is right across the border from Canada, 881 00:44:57.440 --> 00:44:59.719 which is why there are French speaking characters in the story. 882 00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:01.960 I had a lot of questions, why the hell everybody's 883 00:45:01.960 --> 00:45:02.679 speaking French? 884 00:45:02.760 --> 00:45:05.159 All, thank you, thank you? 885 00:45:05.360 --> 00:45:08.920 That helps hold over for no good reason. Wow, he's 886 00:45:09.000 --> 00:45:11.960 allowed to walk the grounds, and he walks and finds 887 00:45:12.000 --> 00:45:14.280 a house with a family, a mother and a father, 888 00:45:14.360 --> 00:45:17.679 and a beautiful girl who seems dressed from another age, 889 00:45:18.039 --> 00:45:21.679 and they have an instant connection, but she's very odd 890 00:45:22.000 --> 00:45:25.440 and like kind of keeps him at a distance. Nevertheless, 891 00:45:25.639 --> 00:45:27.320 when he comes back to the asylum and tells the 892 00:45:27.360 --> 00:45:30.519 people about it, they're like, you must really be crazy 893 00:45:30.559 --> 00:45:32.760 because there's no house out there just to ruin. And 894 00:45:32.840 --> 00:45:36.599 then he continues going visiting with the girl and her family, 895 00:45:36.920 --> 00:45:39.760 and then there's this business with people being attacked by 896 00:45:39.840 --> 00:45:42.639 wolves in the thing, like talk of it, but none 897 00:45:42.679 --> 00:45:46.119 of that is sort of put together forthrightly. It's basically 898 00:45:46.679 --> 00:45:49.280 is he insane or not? Is the thing? Back and 899 00:45:49.400 --> 00:45:51.960 forth because he going to the asylum and they're crazy, 900 00:45:52.000 --> 00:45:54.039 but they're telling him he's crazy, but he's actually seeing 901 00:45:54.079 --> 00:45:58.079 the people. So they are a family of were wolves 902 00:45:58.519 --> 00:46:03.280 and they are dead, so they're ghost wolves or where 903 00:46:03.360 --> 00:46:06.639 ghosts or something. It ends basically the same way. So 904 00:46:06.679 --> 00:46:10.119 there's no there's no character like feeding these people or 905 00:46:10.360 --> 00:46:13.559 like luring them, or there's no warlocks and all this 906 00:46:13.679 --> 00:46:16.119 other shit. It's they kind of like let him know 907 00:46:16.239 --> 00:46:19.159 that that family who lived there were sort of renowned 908 00:46:19.239 --> 00:46:23.119 as potential where wolves stay away from there and they 909 00:46:23.159 --> 00:46:26.239 are and she's It's so it's more of a like 910 00:46:26.400 --> 00:46:29.039 Romeo and Juliet with the two warring factions, where her 911 00:46:29.119 --> 00:46:30.960 parents want to eat him and the rest of them 912 00:46:31.000 --> 00:46:33.119 think he's crazy and trying to keep them apart, and 913 00:46:33.239 --> 00:46:36.360 then she makes the sacrifice just exercise me and my 914 00:46:36.480 --> 00:46:39.239 family will go away and the countryside will be fine, 915 00:46:39.280 --> 00:46:41.039 but I'll lose you. But if I stay with you, 916 00:46:41.119 --> 00:46:44.199 I'm going to murder you because I'm a wolf the end. 917 00:46:46.039 --> 00:46:49.400 Now how that turned into tree pads and groovy talk 918 00:46:50.079 --> 00:46:55.400 and moccasins and thumper from Goddamn you only live twice? 919 00:46:55.760 --> 00:46:59.920 I don't know, but I did enjoy it. 920 00:47:02.360 --> 00:47:05.599 I'm glad you did. The only note I have is 921 00:47:05.800 --> 00:47:09.679 crow noises and two random French dudes. I mean that 922 00:47:09.920 --> 00:47:13.360 there are crow noises up the wazoo in this episode. 923 00:47:13.719 --> 00:47:15.719 Perfect segue there, Chris Mike Card. He knows where we're 924 00:47:15.760 --> 00:47:18.119 going with this. Another thing I like to point out 925 00:47:18.159 --> 00:47:22.440 in these episodes the second season, our performers who probably 926 00:47:22.480 --> 00:47:24.880 don't have the spotlight shine on them enough in this case, 927 00:47:25.119 --> 00:47:27.599 featured only once in this episode. But I think we 928 00:47:27.679 --> 00:47:30.599 all know it. It's about twenty five years old at 929 00:47:30.599 --> 00:47:38.760 this point. Here it is ladies and gentlemen. You probably 930 00:47:38.880 --> 00:47:42.480 know that from everything. Most of these sound effects ended 931 00:47:42.559 --> 00:47:44.519 up being used on Sesame Street a lot. That's a 932 00:47:44.599 --> 00:47:46.679 count von count if I've ever I've heard one. Its 933 00:47:46.719 --> 00:47:50.440 actual name is Single Classic Wolf, although sometimes it's called 934 00:47:50.519 --> 00:47:53.880 single Coyote, which I think is racist. The first appearance 935 00:47:53.920 --> 00:47:56.760 of it, this was created by the Disney sound folks. 936 00:47:57.239 --> 00:47:59.920 This it appeared in a segment called Bongo, which was 937 00:48:00.079 --> 00:48:03.159 part of a Fun and Fancy free in nineteen forty six. 938 00:48:03.679 --> 00:48:06.920 So there you go. We love you, Single Classic Wolf. 939 00:48:08.679 --> 00:48:13.960 You're joining Castle Thunder in the pantheon of sound effects here. 940 00:48:17.199 --> 00:48:20.280 I like this episode a little bit, like I did 941 00:48:20.440 --> 00:48:23.079 like how off off kilter it seems and I don't 942 00:48:23.119 --> 00:48:25.599 know what's going on for so long, Like it had 943 00:48:25.639 --> 00:48:28.960 the feeling of the sort of abstract set at the 944 00:48:29.000 --> 00:48:31.760 beginning when they're all on these pads. We find ourselves 945 00:48:31.840 --> 00:48:34.719 in it at an asylum kind of, but everyone's outside 946 00:48:34.760 --> 00:48:37.039 and they're all groovy, and they're on these pads that 947 00:48:37.119 --> 00:48:40.239 are wrapped around these trees, and it's really weird. All 948 00:48:40.360 --> 00:48:42.960 that stuff was disconcerting and I was like really enjoying it. 949 00:48:43.239 --> 00:48:46.280 And then when we go meet the girl who in 950 00:48:46.400 --> 00:48:49.679 this one, David Chardine is telling everyone that they have 951 00:48:49.880 --> 00:48:51.599 to go there. He's like trying to lure them out 952 00:48:51.639 --> 00:48:53.639 there to be killed. And he tells everyone who sees 953 00:48:53.679 --> 00:48:55.559 this girl is gonna fall in love with her. And 954 00:48:55.679 --> 00:49:00.760 when we see her, it's like this red a limb 955 00:49:01.639 --> 00:49:04.039 wig that's been bottle blonded, and like. 956 00:49:04.280 --> 00:49:07.719 Oh, her bangs are great. The bangs on that wig 957 00:49:08.000 --> 00:49:11.480 are just chef's kiss specttaga. 958 00:49:10.880 --> 00:49:14.920 And the dress itself this like voluminous, like ball gown looking. 959 00:49:15.079 --> 00:49:17.719 I don't understand it. Where you people are from what 960 00:49:18.000 --> 00:49:22.400 time and place? That's all David McCallum needs to say. 961 00:49:22.440 --> 00:49:25.519 It's like, who the fuck are you? Like, I don't 962 00:49:25.599 --> 00:49:27.920 understand how anyone in the right mind would be like, oh, 963 00:49:28.000 --> 00:49:31.639 you clearly belong here. You are so out of time 964 00:49:31.719 --> 00:49:34.480 and out of place, it's beyond obvious. They don't even try. 965 00:49:35.679 --> 00:49:37.480 The weird thing about that is it's like they could have, 966 00:49:38.079 --> 00:49:41.000 you know, her parents are dressed. It could have been faked. 967 00:49:41.199 --> 00:49:44.559 It could be nineteen seventy one. They're dressed basically in coveralls. 968 00:49:44.559 --> 00:49:48.239 They just look like poor farmers. Why if that's what 969 00:49:48.360 --> 00:49:51.760 they were wearing in like eighteen seventy one, why was 970 00:49:51.840 --> 00:49:55.239 she dressed not like them, Like she's not she's not 971 00:49:55.360 --> 00:49:56.719 at a cotillion or anything. 972 00:49:56.800 --> 00:49:58.840 She's like dirt poor like her parents. 973 00:49:58.880 --> 00:50:01.320 And she's a werewolf. Why does she even have the dress. 974 00:50:01.440 --> 00:50:04.159 It doesn't make sense she werewolf for she had dog. 975 00:50:04.639 --> 00:50:06.599 Well, they couldn't afford the wolves. 976 00:50:07.400 --> 00:50:08.679 They could afford dogs though. 977 00:50:09.559 --> 00:50:13.239 I was wondering about that too, because when they showed 978 00:50:13.280 --> 00:50:14.800 the dog, I was like, Oh, the dog must be 979 00:50:14.880 --> 00:50:16.960 running away from the wolf, because I kept hearing the 980 00:50:17.039 --> 00:50:18.480 wolf and I was just like, why is this dog 981 00:50:18.599 --> 00:50:19.159 running away? 982 00:50:19.639 --> 00:50:21.719 That's not a problem. You know, this is like a 983 00:50:21.760 --> 00:50:27.239 two day shoot. Yeah, And according toition, I've swarked like 984 00:50:27.519 --> 00:50:29.639 the dogs were like the nicest dogs in the world 985 00:50:29.639 --> 00:50:31.840 and they wouldn't even want to chase anything anyway. So 986 00:50:31.960 --> 00:50:33.840 it's kind of impressive that they've got any shots at all. 987 00:50:33.880 --> 00:50:39.039 But obviously they're where dog ghosts. I guess they're wolfy 988 00:50:39.360 --> 00:50:40.159 ghoster tins. 989 00:50:40.599 --> 00:50:43.400 I don't know where dog ghosts are. You asking us 990 00:50:43.440 --> 00:50:43.840 a question? 991 00:50:44.119 --> 00:50:44.320 You know what? 992 00:50:44.400 --> 00:50:46.079 It's you know what it reminds me of. There's a 993 00:50:46.159 --> 00:50:48.599 quote from Big trouble Little China Eggshen is like talking 994 00:50:48.639 --> 00:50:52.440 about all the different disciplines that they're all drawing from, 995 00:50:52.760 --> 00:50:55.880 and he's like, you know, Buddhism and Confucianism, and we 996 00:50:56.000 --> 00:50:57.920 take what we want to leave the rest like a 997 00:50:58.079 --> 00:51:00.599 salad bar. That's what this felt like to me. It's like, well, 998 00:51:00.800 --> 00:51:03.280 they are werewolves, so we'll put you know, you have 999 00:51:03.320 --> 00:51:05.840 the pentagram on the hand, but they're also ghosts. 1000 00:51:06.000 --> 00:51:09.599 But like I, it is titled the Phantom Farmhouse, so 1001 00:51:09.760 --> 00:51:11.880 there must be phantoms involved. 1002 00:51:11.599 --> 00:51:13.920 A phantom reasoning, the phantom logic. 1003 00:51:14.280 --> 00:51:19.119 Like it felt like a really somehow poorly done. It 1004 00:51:19.199 --> 00:51:21.400 feels like a poorly done episode of Tales from the Crypt, 1005 00:51:21.519 --> 00:51:23.800 like an easy comics story. That's what it feels like. 1006 00:51:24.039 --> 00:51:26.599 When they had all those people in the tree, I 1007 00:51:26.719 --> 00:51:30.920 kept thinking, these are aspects of his personality and they 1008 00:51:30.960 --> 00:51:32.760 are fighting within his mind. 1009 00:51:33.719 --> 00:51:34.360 That would have been good. 1010 00:51:34.440 --> 00:51:37.400 And then it just when David Karenine came out of 1011 00:51:37.440 --> 00:51:39.800 the tree, I was like, well, there goes that theory. 1012 00:51:42.400 --> 00:51:44.960 You were you were doing the episode's job for it, 1013 00:51:45.679 --> 00:51:47.840 trying to make it more interesting than it ended up being. 1014 00:51:48.039 --> 00:51:50.400 Did you notice that when David Karenine homps down off 1015 00:51:50.480 --> 00:51:52.559 of the thing. He tries to and then they kind 1016 00:51:52.599 --> 00:51:55.320 of cut down. He does he not say cocaine anyone, 1017 00:51:57.079 --> 00:51:59.119 I swear to god. He says it twice like he 1018 00:51:59.199 --> 00:52:00.880 said it, and I was like, you couldn't have heard that. 1019 00:52:00.960 --> 00:52:03.159 They wouldn't have put that on television. And then at 1020 00:52:03.159 --> 00:52:05.000 the end of the sea he's like, cocaine anyone and 1021 00:52:05.079 --> 00:52:07.239 then leaves, Maybe I'm wrong, I should read the script, 1022 00:52:07.320 --> 00:52:10.920 but that's what I heard. Maybe that's what I wanted 1023 00:52:10.960 --> 00:52:11.199 to hear. 1024 00:52:12.599 --> 00:52:14.480 That's what you wanted David Carrodine to say. 1025 00:52:14.920 --> 00:52:16.119 It feels like he would share. 1026 00:52:16.400 --> 00:52:18.280 Yeah, I mean, he seemed like a groovy guy. By 1027 00:52:18.320 --> 00:52:21.679 the way, hippy slang seems so natural coming out of 1028 00:52:21.760 --> 00:52:24.119 David Charrody, Like all of that dialogue could have been 1029 00:52:24.320 --> 00:52:26.480 the worst if it weren't him, and like he it 1030 00:52:26.559 --> 00:52:28.679 was effortless, and I was like, oh, so that's how 1031 00:52:28.760 --> 00:52:30.920 people talk instead of the awkward way people try to 1032 00:52:30.960 --> 00:52:31.519 reproduce it. 1033 00:52:31.880 --> 00:52:33.880 Well, because David Carrody is a great actor. 1034 00:52:34.480 --> 00:52:38.199 Yeah it was. Was he still in sorry damn It? 1035 00:52:39.119 --> 00:52:41.440 And speaking of damn it, stop doing day for night 1036 00:52:41.480 --> 00:52:42.519 everybody stop. 1037 00:52:42.719 --> 00:52:44.840 Oh that was real rough. 1038 00:52:45.880 --> 00:52:47.920 You can't do a were wolf story and do day 1039 00:52:47.960 --> 00:52:49.360 for night. Just don't even do it. 1040 00:52:50.840 --> 00:52:52.920 Yeah, well, how long did you say they had for this? 1041 00:52:53.159 --> 00:52:53.679 Five days? 1042 00:52:53.760 --> 00:52:56.159 I don't know why they even tried two days? 1043 00:52:56.400 --> 00:52:59.320 Two days Jesus, Yeah, no, wonder it looks so bad. 1044 00:52:59.480 --> 00:53:00.719 Yeah, I mean they're not going to get a big 1045 00:53:00.800 --> 00:53:04.000 lighting package out there at like, you know, I. 1046 00:53:04.039 --> 00:53:06.199 Think it's more impressive that it only took two days 1047 00:53:06.280 --> 00:53:08.280 and that it it's not a complete mess. 1048 00:53:08.480 --> 00:53:10.480 I think it's well shot. I think there's there's some 1049 00:53:10.800 --> 00:53:12.559 poetical looking shots in there like that. 1050 00:53:13.280 --> 00:53:15.639 It's a nice looking it's a nice looking episode. 1051 00:53:15.679 --> 00:53:19.519 When McCallum's first like venturing into the forest, like there's 1052 00:53:19.519 --> 00:53:21.920 a there's a scene of this lamb like running through 1053 00:53:21.920 --> 00:53:23.840 the forest being pursued by the wolves, and it all 1054 00:53:23.840 --> 00:53:25.880 looks gorgeous. It looks like a fairy tale. And then 1055 00:53:25.920 --> 00:53:28.599 unfortunately we're right back to like you know, the universal 1056 00:53:28.679 --> 00:53:31.280 lot with most obvious lighting in the world, the sun, 1057 00:53:31.840 --> 00:53:34.400 just because they need needed for speed. But like he 1058 00:53:34.519 --> 00:53:36.800 managed to get a couple of like cool shots. There's 1059 00:53:36.800 --> 00:53:39.639 another one sort of at the midpoint where they're on 1060 00:53:39.760 --> 00:53:41.920 top of a hill where all the sheep, where mcallum 1061 00:53:42.000 --> 00:53:44.280 walks down and sort of scares the sheep, which another 1062 00:53:44.360 --> 00:53:47.159 gorgeous shot that there are little moments of beauty in 1063 00:53:47.239 --> 00:53:49.719 these episodes, and at least this one did not in 1064 00:53:49.800 --> 00:53:50.920 any way feel set bound. 1065 00:53:51.400 --> 00:53:53.079 If they had just turned the camera around, they probably 1066 00:53:53.079 --> 00:53:56.400 would have seen the Baits Motel like behind them. That's 1067 00:53:56.480 --> 00:53:59.960 what it looked like to me. It looked like where 1068 00:54:00.519 --> 00:54:03.760 they like the older pictures of the Universal back Loot Tour, 1069 00:54:03.920 --> 00:54:06.800 That's what it looked like. The set, like the set 1070 00:54:06.880 --> 00:54:09.199 that they were on. It looked like just out there 1071 00:54:09.320 --> 00:54:12.760 in the Universal, like where they shoot stuff like this. 1072 00:54:12.880 --> 00:54:16.400 It's I mean, you know, it's like, where are you 1073 00:54:16.400 --> 00:54:19.079 guys gonna shoot over there? Look, this is not the 1074 00:54:19.320 --> 00:54:22.000 best part of this one. It's it's it's okay, you know. 1075 00:54:22.239 --> 00:54:25.079 It didn't it didn't insult me. I was more confused, 1076 00:54:25.559 --> 00:54:27.599 and then by the end I didn't care. 1077 00:54:29.199 --> 00:54:32.239 Well, it just it kind of just ends. It just 1078 00:54:32.519 --> 00:54:36.719 kind of ends, and that's fine. But this is now 1079 00:54:36.800 --> 00:54:39.039 I think. I want to say. There was an episode 1080 00:54:39.280 --> 00:54:41.679 segment in the last episode that just kind of ended too, 1081 00:54:41.800 --> 00:54:43.559 but it worked better than it just kind of ended. 1082 00:54:43.599 --> 00:54:46.239 This one just goes and that's it. It's like, okay, 1083 00:54:46.599 --> 00:54:48.679 all right, I guess it's over now, moving. 1084 00:54:48.519 --> 00:54:51.119 On, why even use wolves? Just make it a ghost 1085 00:54:51.719 --> 00:54:52.440 eats people, you. 1086 00:54:52.480 --> 00:54:52.880 Know what I mean? 1087 00:54:53.920 --> 00:54:57.159 How about we're all vampires. Let's do vampires there, that's 1088 00:54:57.199 --> 00:54:58.880 a ghost in a wolf together. 1089 00:54:59.119 --> 00:55:01.400 Stop and vampire myers are what like five cents. You 1090 00:55:01.480 --> 00:55:02.559 just get the little teeth, that's it. 1091 00:55:02.760 --> 00:55:06.400 Yeah, if you even need the teeth, I mean you 1092 00:55:06.599 --> 00:55:11.519 just cover up the face or you know, Catherine Deneuve 1093 00:55:11.679 --> 00:55:14.320 and the hunger, we didn't mention the finger. What's that? 1094 00:55:14.800 --> 00:55:17.199 The finger, the index finger that we got to see 1095 00:55:17.239 --> 00:55:19.760 one hundred thousand times. That was a bit of a failure. 1096 00:55:19.920 --> 00:55:21.000 I didn't like that at all. 1097 00:55:21.639 --> 00:55:24.679 She has a really long finger, just a really long finger. 1098 00:55:24.800 --> 00:55:26.880 Only wear wolves have long fingers. 1099 00:55:27.960 --> 00:55:30.480 It's the index fingers as long or longer than the 1100 00:55:30.559 --> 00:55:32.760 rest of the fingers, just the traditional lore. But like 1101 00:55:33.440 --> 00:55:35.440 I guys, we get it. We're not going to get 1102 00:55:35.440 --> 00:55:38.480 a transformation sequence and we only have dogs instead of wolves. 1103 00:55:38.519 --> 00:55:41.000 But like, we don't need to feature the one thing 1104 00:55:41.079 --> 00:55:42.199 you could have ford stop. 1105 00:55:43.679 --> 00:55:46.480 They did it better on Coalshack with Tom Scarett. Yeah, 1106 00:55:46.679 --> 00:55:48.920 it's very similar, Like they couldn't do wear wolves in 1107 00:55:48.960 --> 00:55:51.719 that episode. So he's a dog, So They're dogs here, 1108 00:55:51.920 --> 00:55:52.239 all right? 1109 00:55:52.599 --> 00:55:57.960 Sure, much more, way better episode though the cole Check 1110 00:55:58.039 --> 00:55:59.280 episode agreed. 1111 00:56:00.000 --> 00:56:02.079 Oh yeah, mister scares alone. 1112 00:56:02.440 --> 00:56:12.079 Astounding Tales of the Public Domain with Father Malone, Enhanced 1113 00:56:12.199 --> 00:56:18.159 audio performances from the Golden Age of science fiction, featuring 1114 00:56:18.280 --> 00:56:23.800 tales by Ray Radberry, Miriam Allen, DeFord, Robert E. Howard, 1115 00:56:24.360 --> 00:56:29.639 Paul Anderson, H. P. Lovecraft, and Moore. You're at twice 1116 00:56:29.719 --> 00:56:34.920 monthly at weirding Way Media. Astounding Tales of the Public 1117 00:56:35.039 --> 00:56:36.960 Domain with Father Malone. 1118 00:56:44.159 --> 00:56:55.480 Weirding Way Media. We deal the pet. 1119 00:56:55.719 --> 00:57:02.199 Pigment, light and shots, surreal impression as a movie end 1120 00:57:02.320 --> 00:57:06.400 or stories, an interest in not fall a pretty much 1121 00:57:06.880 --> 00:57:07.760 toward the bizarre. 1122 00:57:08.400 --> 00:57:09.239 And this place is. 1123 00:57:09.320 --> 00:57:10.760 Nothing if it isn't bizarre. 1124 00:57:11.519 --> 00:57:16.039 There's no admission, no requirement of membership, only a stronger 1125 00:57:16.119 --> 00:57:18.440 abided belief than the dark at the top of the 1126 00:57:18.559 --> 00:57:21.599 stairs or things that go bump. 1127 00:57:21.400 --> 00:57:21.840 In the night. 1128 00:57:22.639 --> 00:57:24.800 The name of this place that you would commend your 1129 00:57:24.840 --> 00:57:27.599 accidentally out of the rank is the Night Guy. 1130 00:57:28.960 --> 00:57:31.840 All right, Welcome back, our lovers to Midnight Viewing the 1131 00:57:32.039 --> 00:57:35.119 Night Gallery Podcast. I'm Father Malone, and with me here 1132 00:57:35.280 --> 00:57:38.519 in the gallery are from Dreams for Sale, The Twilight 1133 00:57:38.599 --> 00:57:40.360 Zone eighty five podcasts mister. 1134 00:57:40.239 --> 00:57:42.440 Mike White, have we met them beforeer? 1135 00:57:42.559 --> 00:57:47.599 Sure? And from Chronicles from the Crypt the former casualty 1136 00:57:48.440 --> 00:57:49.559 mister Chris statue. 1137 00:57:49.960 --> 00:57:52.559 But what if we don't know? If the doors you could, 1138 00:57:53.760 --> 00:57:57.480 if we could be good at bad Oh, We're gonna 1139 00:57:57.559 --> 00:57:58.039 get to that. 1140 00:57:58.360 --> 00:58:02.079 Here we are discussing season episode seven. This one aired 1141 00:58:02.119 --> 00:58:05.800 on November third, nineteen seventy one, broken into two segments, 1142 00:58:06.119 --> 00:58:08.880 Midnight Never Ends and Brenda. 1143 00:58:08.880 --> 00:58:13.840 Tonight's first selection. A painting suggesting solitude or at least 1144 00:58:13.880 --> 00:58:18.320 solemnity as viewed during the midnight Holler. It tells a 1145 00:58:18.400 --> 00:58:20.920 tale of two young people caught in extorably in a 1146 00:58:21.000 --> 00:58:26.239 recurring nightmare, with a finale on the dueling side. Our painting, 1147 00:58:26.360 --> 00:58:30.400 with the somewhat familiar face is called Midnight Never Ends 1148 00:58:31.039 --> 00:58:34.079 and this is the Night Gallery now. 1149 00:58:34.239 --> 00:58:37.400 Midnight Never Ends was written by Rod Serling, based on 1150 00:58:37.480 --> 00:58:40.559 a half dozen or so earlier teleplays by Rod Serling, 1151 00:58:40.679 --> 00:58:42.760 like five Characters in Search of an Exit and a 1152 00:58:42.840 --> 00:58:45.039 World of his Own, and it was directed by A. 1153 00:58:45.159 --> 00:58:49.519 Jena Swart and stars Robert f Lyons Chris He Was 1154 00:58:49.559 --> 00:58:51.039 in Transylvania six five thousand. 1155 00:58:51.360 --> 00:58:54.000 You know, Mike hate's that movie too, right, It's not 1156 00:58:54.199 --> 00:58:56.400 just me this time around. Then you get to get 1157 00:58:56.480 --> 00:58:59.679 to waggle your Translvania six five thousand weener. 1158 00:59:00.280 --> 00:59:01.679 He realized I'm outnumbered. 1159 00:59:02.360 --> 00:59:05.039 You are outnumbered this time, Heather Train ain't here to 1160 00:59:05.159 --> 00:59:08.760 help you, pal, and Trevor isn't I help me? 1161 00:59:09.559 --> 00:59:13.599 It also starts stud Susan Strasburg, daughter of Lee Strasburg, 1162 00:59:13.880 --> 00:59:16.960 who starred in my favorite TV movie of all time, 1163 00:59:17.360 --> 00:59:21.480 Mazes and Monsters with Tom Hanks, and also starts Joseph Perry. 1164 00:59:21.599 --> 00:59:23.599 It is the story of a motorist and a hitchhiker 1165 00:59:23.639 --> 00:59:26.519 with a strange feeling that they've done all this before, 1166 00:59:26.800 --> 00:59:30.719 and what is that strange clacking in the heavens? Mike? 1167 00:59:30.760 --> 00:59:31.639 Could you think of this one? 1168 00:59:31.840 --> 00:59:36.239 Oh man? I I could see that twist coming a 1169 00:59:36.320 --> 00:59:39.840 mile away, and boy, oh boy, did I really wanted 1170 00:59:39.960 --> 00:59:44.519 to not be that twist? But it was and I 1171 00:59:44.679 --> 00:59:46.400 sat through it and I'm Matt. 1172 00:59:47.000 --> 00:59:47.880 How about you, Chris? 1173 00:59:48.239 --> 00:59:49.280 You know Father Malone. 1174 00:59:49.719 --> 00:59:50.679 God, he's winding up. 1175 00:59:51.079 --> 00:59:54.639 Yeah, I'm winding up, all right, I'm gonna I've been 1176 00:59:54.679 --> 00:59:57.719 doing this for eight years now, going on nine. It'll 1177 00:59:57.760 --> 01:00:00.320 be nine at the end of twenty twenty three. This 1178 01:00:00.639 --> 01:00:04.559 may be one of the worst hours of anything I 1179 01:00:04.719 --> 01:00:08.719 have ever had to watch for anything I've ever podcasted about. 1180 01:00:09.360 --> 01:00:11.639 And you have been privy to a lot of bad 1181 01:00:11.679 --> 01:00:14.960 stuff that we've talked about together, Father Malone, and we've 1182 01:00:15.039 --> 01:00:17.119 been privy to bad stuff that we've all talked about 1183 01:00:17.119 --> 01:00:21.679 together on the aforementioned Dreams for Sale. This is, without 1184 01:00:21.719 --> 01:00:25.519 a doubt, one half of the worst episode of TV 1185 01:00:25.679 --> 01:00:28.280 I may have ever seen. At least up until this point. 1186 01:00:28.880 --> 01:00:33.320 This episode's twist is so foreshadowed. It's literally the painting. 1187 01:00:34.039 --> 01:00:39.280 It's so fucking infantile in what the expectations are from 1188 01:00:39.400 --> 01:00:42.360 you as an audience that they they can't even be 1189 01:00:42.559 --> 01:00:46.119 bothered with giving it an interesting twist. It is exactly 1190 01:00:46.280 --> 01:00:49.199 what they say it's going to be. They don't even 1191 01:00:49.320 --> 01:00:51.719 care about you as an audience enough to do something 1192 01:00:51.800 --> 01:00:55.599 different other than exactly what you're expecting as an audience member. 1193 01:00:55.920 --> 01:00:58.360 And the fact that it's Rod Serling, yeah makes sense 1194 01:00:58.519 --> 01:01:01.000 because at this point, Rod, I wish you would just 1195 01:01:01.119 --> 01:01:01.559 go away. 1196 01:01:02.519 --> 01:01:03.000 That's mean. 1197 01:01:03.639 --> 01:01:09.360 Yeah, Well, this episode segment is fucking awful. It's minimalist 1198 01:01:09.440 --> 01:01:11.639 in a way that marmalade Wine was, but it is 1199 01:01:11.840 --> 01:01:15.519 as unsuccessful as the worst segment on the show, which 1200 01:01:15.639 --> 01:01:18.280 is the you know, the next episode segment we're gonna. 1201 01:01:18.039 --> 01:01:21.079 Be talking about just the central premise. 1202 01:01:23.119 --> 01:01:26.039 Okay, Rod Serling's writing a script and we're watching it 1203 01:01:26.159 --> 01:01:26.840 in real time. 1204 01:01:27.639 --> 01:01:31.760 Cool, but you wouldn't have your characters say, oh, he's 1205 01:01:31.840 --> 01:01:34.360 going to open that door now, or like try to 1206 01:01:34.480 --> 01:01:35.599 predict the future. 1207 01:01:36.599 --> 01:01:39.480 It just is that. Why he's confused in the painting 1208 01:01:39.599 --> 01:01:42.840 is because the characters in the thing are getting autonomy 1209 01:01:42.880 --> 01:01:45.159 of their own. Father moan, tell us, tell us what 1210 01:01:45.239 --> 01:01:47.599 you think, because you you haven't weighed in on this 1211 01:01:47.880 --> 01:01:51.719 Nightmary yet I liked it. No you did not. You 1212 01:01:51.840 --> 01:01:53.880 didn't your your fucking joke. 1213 01:01:54.440 --> 01:01:57.199 No, I kind of did. I'll tell you why You're. 1214 01:01:57.039 --> 01:01:59.039 Gonna have to because I wouldn't believe you otherwise. 1215 01:01:59.239 --> 01:02:03.840 Okay, I mentioned two Surling scripts he wrote before that 1216 01:02:03.920 --> 01:02:05.920 are basically the same thing. It's five characters search of 1217 01:02:05.960 --> 01:02:08.199 a next which is great. It's a great episode, There's 1218 01:02:08.239 --> 01:02:10.599 no question, which is kind. 1219 01:02:10.480 --> 01:02:14.679 Of based on earlier play. Correct, I have five actors 1220 01:02:14.719 --> 01:02:16.400 in search of an author or something. 1221 01:02:16.280 --> 01:02:20.079 Yes, exactly, and and the other one was a world 1222 01:02:20.119 --> 01:02:23.960 of his own where an author can create anything he wants. 1223 01:02:24.039 --> 01:02:26.320 You know, and I records it on the piece of tape, 1224 01:02:26.320 --> 01:02:28.519 remember that. And at the end they had that little 1225 01:02:28.639 --> 01:02:30.480 bit where Rod Serling comes in He's like, this is 1226 01:02:30.519 --> 01:02:32.480 att just a joke. He's like, well, you shouldn't say that, 1227 01:02:32.559 --> 01:02:34.719 and he burns it up. Keenan Wynn burns up the 1228 01:02:34.760 --> 01:02:37.800 piece of tape that in Rod Serling disappears. I knew 1229 01:02:37.840 --> 01:02:39.320 where it was going and what it was going, but 1230 01:02:39.440 --> 01:02:42.039 I just liked watching these people, and I liked those 1231 01:02:42.239 --> 01:02:44.760 minimalist sets, Like I thought it made more sense because 1232 01:02:44.800 --> 01:02:48.840 these are it's a fragmentary world that these characters are 1233 01:02:48.880 --> 01:02:52.079 living in because the writer sucks and like just keeps 1234 01:02:52.119 --> 01:02:54.719 rewriting them and he's only ever rewriting them based on 1235 01:02:54.880 --> 01:02:57.400 previous stories he had already included them in, so they 1236 01:02:57.760 --> 01:02:59.920 their confusion is like I think I was a spot, 1237 01:03:00.199 --> 01:03:02.079 but then she was just in an earlier story that 1238 01:03:02.119 --> 01:03:06.239 he also discarded. In that aspect, I really liked it 1239 01:03:06.280 --> 01:03:08.559 because I understood why the characters. 1240 01:03:09.159 --> 01:03:09.360 Look. 1241 01:03:09.360 --> 01:03:12.320 It doesn't make sense why they're suddenly conscious because clearly 1242 01:03:12.440 --> 01:03:15.679 somebody's writing them to say these things. So that's a 1243 01:03:15.800 --> 01:03:18.599 conflict that doesn't make any sense at all. But the 1244 01:03:18.719 --> 01:03:22.719 idea of characters kind of becoming sentient to the point 1245 01:03:22.760 --> 01:03:25.639 where they know how poor they are because of how 1246 01:03:25.719 --> 01:03:28.280 poor their author is. I like that idea a lot. 1247 01:03:28.480 --> 01:03:31.079 I don't think it works overall. I think there are 1248 01:03:31.119 --> 01:03:32.440 some shots that are kind of cool. 1249 01:03:32.960 --> 01:03:33.239 I don't know. 1250 01:03:33.360 --> 01:03:35.159 It didn't bother me as much as to bother you guys. 1251 01:03:35.199 --> 01:03:38.719 I certainly would not put I wouldn't say anything in 1252 01:03:38.800 --> 01:03:41.440 the last season, the season seven of Tails from the 1253 01:03:41.480 --> 01:03:44.800 Crypt is better than this thing. This, like, you know, 1254 01:03:45.000 --> 01:03:48.719 twenty minutes of whatever you got, give me that, Chris, No. 1255 01:03:48.840 --> 01:03:49.079 I will. 1256 01:03:49.119 --> 01:03:51.639 I mean, I'm not even going to pretend like what 1257 01:03:51.760 --> 01:03:54.559 you said is wrong, Like you're completely right. It's just 1258 01:03:55.719 --> 01:04:01.079 this what in anyone's mind, you know, specific Rod Serling, 1259 01:04:01.760 --> 01:04:03.800 would it lead you to believe that this is a 1260 01:04:03.880 --> 01:04:04.760 story worth telling? 1261 01:04:04.840 --> 01:04:05.000 Though? 1262 01:04:05.119 --> 01:04:07.880 That's what I don't understand. What is the point of 1263 01:04:08.000 --> 01:04:11.639 this story for us to go? So when a writer 1264 01:04:11.840 --> 01:04:14.719 is writing things, the characters have autonomy and remember no, 1265 01:04:14.840 --> 01:04:17.360 because that's just in this story. That's the case. This 1266 01:04:17.519 --> 01:04:21.880 is not making some sort of grand ruling on fictional 1267 01:04:22.000 --> 01:04:25.519 characters written large. It's just this story. So it's just 1268 01:04:25.679 --> 01:04:28.440 it seemed kind of like the twist was what they 1269 01:04:28.480 --> 01:04:31.000 were trying to get to and they worked backwards from 1270 01:04:31.079 --> 01:04:33.360 the twist, which is not a great way to write 1271 01:04:33.400 --> 01:04:36.559 a script, right, you got to the twist maybe is organic. 1272 01:04:36.639 --> 01:04:38.519 If there is one at all, there doesn't have to 1273 01:04:38.559 --> 01:04:38.920 be one. 1274 01:04:39.639 --> 01:04:42.519 I mean, I love time loop stories, and at first 1275 01:04:42.599 --> 01:04:44.719 I was hoping that this was a time loop story. 1276 01:04:44.760 --> 01:04:47.280 I was like, oh cool, you know, like, oh, something 1277 01:04:47.400 --> 01:04:50.480 different is happening this time, okay, and so what's the 1278 01:04:50.599 --> 01:04:53.480 Trick's what's going on with this? And then when it 1279 01:04:53.639 --> 01:04:56.960 was the character thing. One of my favorite movies of 1280 01:04:57.119 --> 01:05:01.199 all time is John Pays's nineteen eighty five Crime Wave, 1281 01:05:01.280 --> 01:05:03.519 which was released on video as The Big Crime Wave, 1282 01:05:04.119 --> 01:05:08.480 and it's very much an author writing scripts. You get 1283 01:05:08.559 --> 01:05:11.760 to see what's inside of like little snippets of scripts. 1284 01:05:11.840 --> 01:05:14.840 He can write beginnings and he can write endings, but 1285 01:05:14.920 --> 01:05:16.679 he can never come up with the middle. So he's 1286 01:05:16.800 --> 01:05:20.280 very frustrated and he comes up with like three or 1287 01:05:20.400 --> 01:05:25.760 four different sets of characters and they are recast into 1288 01:05:25.840 --> 01:05:29.199 different things and you get to see, like Ronnie Boyle, 1289 01:05:29.320 --> 01:05:32.800 the Elvis impersonator, and this story is this other character 1290 01:05:32.880 --> 01:05:36.400 and this other story really well done. Like I said, 1291 01:05:36.440 --> 01:05:38.360 one of my favorite things in the world and then 1292 01:05:38.400 --> 01:05:40.880 I see this and I'm just like, I've seen this 1293 01:05:41.079 --> 01:05:44.719 done so many times of these characters kind of becoming 1294 01:05:44.800 --> 01:05:46.760 self aware and all these things that I'm just like, 1295 01:05:47.320 --> 01:05:49.840 it's not handled well here, Like I've seen it handled 1296 01:05:50.199 --> 01:05:53.159 really well, and I've seen it handled and like I 1297 01:05:53.280 --> 01:05:56.320 mean even like like a Carl Burnett skit where I'm 1298 01:05:56.360 --> 01:05:59.280 just like, Okay, yeah, they are in control of the 1299 01:05:59.400 --> 01:06:03.400 narrative type of thing. Interesting but not good. And then 1300 01:06:03.559 --> 01:06:05.679 I mean, usually I love Carol Burnett. I just want 1301 01:06:05.719 --> 01:06:07.559 to put that out there, but then you get something 1302 01:06:07.639 --> 01:06:10.519 like this, I'm just like, you're not doing it right. 1303 01:06:10.599 --> 01:06:12.400 You're not doing it the right way, you know, like 1304 01:06:12.519 --> 01:06:16.079 make it one or the other. He is he controlling 1305 01:06:16.159 --> 01:06:19.320 them or are they controlling him? Are they send him? 1306 01:06:19.679 --> 01:06:23.079 Just it was I wasn't happy with this one. 1307 01:06:23.280 --> 01:06:25.639 You know, even that Will Ferrell movie is better than this, 1308 01:06:25.840 --> 01:06:29.559 and it is. It's strange, stranger. Yeah, it's the same premise, 1309 01:06:29.760 --> 01:06:34.000 like you this character exists separate from stories or in 1310 01:06:34.199 --> 01:06:36.639 tandem with stories, or he's trying to figure that out 1311 01:06:37.039 --> 01:06:40.320 and how he exisited. That's again and there's something to 1312 01:06:40.400 --> 01:06:42.880 be mined there, and it's not like this is like 1313 01:06:42.960 --> 01:06:45.559 a blackout segment, and it's Oh, they didn't give him 1314 01:06:45.639 --> 01:06:49.679 enough time. Half of the goddamn episode. It's twenty minutes, 1315 01:06:49.760 --> 01:06:53.519 so they had plenty of time. I just they they 1316 01:06:53.679 --> 01:06:57.000 paired the time looping thing with something else, and I 1317 01:06:57.039 --> 01:06:59.360 think it's one high concept thing or the other, and 1318 01:06:59.800 --> 01:07:01.679 together they just don't work very well. 1319 01:07:01.800 --> 01:07:04.400 I don't disagree with any of that. If you're taking 1320 01:07:04.480 --> 01:07:07.480 this on face value as the segment that it is, 1321 01:07:07.679 --> 01:07:10.039 then you know it is kind of it is a failure. Okay, 1322 01:07:10.480 --> 01:07:13.320 I enjoyed it, but that doesn't mean it's it is 1323 01:07:13.480 --> 01:07:15.519 good and I would recommend it. I'm just saying I 1324 01:07:15.719 --> 01:07:18.440 enjoyed it. But if you view it through the prism 1325 01:07:18.559 --> 01:07:23.519 of where Ron Serling is right now, it's kind of 1326 01:07:23.599 --> 01:07:26.079 great because it seems like he's almost commenting on the 1327 01:07:26.119 --> 01:07:28.440 fact that he keeps doing this, doesn't even know where 1328 01:07:28.480 --> 01:07:31.880 these characters are from anymore. He's just rewriting the same shit, 1329 01:07:32.000 --> 01:07:34.239 and none of it's good. And where is his place 1330 01:07:34.320 --> 01:07:37.760 in any of this, like where he is in his 1331 01:07:37.960 --> 01:07:40.960 career and in this series, And if this is him 1332 01:07:41.079 --> 01:07:46.079 working out his demons about where he has found himself 1333 01:07:46.159 --> 01:07:48.639 in the Night Gallery, that makes me like it a lot. 1334 01:07:48.800 --> 01:07:51.199 It doesn't work as a segment, but as sort of 1335 01:07:51.239 --> 01:07:53.559 a sociopolitical examination of broad Sling. 1336 01:07:53.599 --> 01:07:57.719 I like it. Hey, Like, I appreciate writing things as Catharsis, 1337 01:07:57.840 --> 01:08:00.679 but like, what Catharsis is there here? What are you 1338 01:08:00.760 --> 01:08:04.320 getting at here? You can't write a coherent episode of 1339 01:08:04.320 --> 01:08:08.000 your own show anymore? Yeah, we know we're watching your show, dude, 1340 01:08:08.119 --> 01:08:11.360 Like we're watching your show, like we know it's not coherent. 1341 01:08:11.679 --> 01:08:13.719 I just I like you said, like, what is he 1342 01:08:13.800 --> 01:08:15.360 commenting on other than himself? 1343 01:08:16.399 --> 01:08:21.960 Right? Look? Yeah, it's indefensible as drama or as you know, entertainment, 1344 01:08:22.520 --> 01:08:26.560 right as a mettextural comment in his own state of confusion? Though, 1345 01:08:26.680 --> 01:08:27.840 I think it's sores. 1346 01:08:29.039 --> 01:08:32.640 But then we'll probably get an episode from him next 1347 01:08:32.720 --> 01:08:35.720 time we talk about episode eight that may or may 1348 01:08:35.760 --> 01:08:37.880 not be good. So what is he commenting on other 1349 01:08:37.960 --> 01:08:39.800 than he can't do it? And he keeps not being 1350 01:08:39.880 --> 01:08:42.359 able to do it. So what are you really commenting on? 1351 01:08:42.520 --> 01:08:45.119 Rod Serling? I don't understand. I can't do it, but 1352 01:08:45.159 --> 01:08:47.520 I'm gonna keep not doing it and wasting your time. 1353 01:08:47.920 --> 01:08:49.680 Yeah, if this were in this last episode, though, it 1354 01:08:49.720 --> 01:08:52.520 would be great, right, Oh, for sure. 1355 01:08:52.760 --> 01:08:54.439 You know, we kind of ran into a similar thing 1356 01:08:54.560 --> 01:08:57.319 on Barney Miller where they had Jack Sue kind of 1357 01:08:57.560 --> 01:08:59.359 they had an opportunity for him to be done with 1358 01:08:59.439 --> 01:09:01.760 the show and they didn't take it. And this would 1359 01:09:01.800 --> 01:09:04.760 be if this were Rod Serling's final moment on the show, 1360 01:09:04.920 --> 01:09:08.000 like then that would be a masters stroke, but it's not. 1361 01:09:08.800 --> 01:09:11.800 So it's about as far from it it being his 1362 01:09:11.960 --> 01:09:13.359 last thing with the show as possible. 1363 01:09:13.600 --> 01:09:15.359 This just shift that shuffled this down to the end 1364 01:09:15.399 --> 01:09:18.279 of season three and then could question. 1365 01:09:18.159 --> 01:09:20.319 Could this have worked as a Twilight Zone episode. 1366 01:09:20.720 --> 01:09:22.199 It did, It worked a couple of times. 1367 01:09:23.159 --> 01:09:23.680 So there you go. 1368 01:09:23.960 --> 01:09:26.000 Before we get to the next segment, this is you know, 1369 01:09:26.079 --> 01:09:29.560 this season, I've been highlighting talent behind the Night Gallery. 1370 01:09:30.159 --> 01:09:32.319 This season we're getting two stories written by this man, 1371 01:09:32.439 --> 01:09:35.600 including the next segment. I don't think anyone even remotely 1372 01:09:35.840 --> 01:09:39.199 interested in speculative fiction would not know him. But if 1373 01:09:39.239 --> 01:09:41.199 you don't, then do yourself a favor and seek out 1374 01:09:41.279 --> 01:09:45.680 anything by Richard Matheson. His association with Night Galleries obvious. 1375 01:09:45.840 --> 01:09:48.000 He was one of the original contributors to The Twilight 1376 01:09:48.079 --> 01:09:50.960 Zone from the very first season, but by the time 1377 01:09:51.039 --> 01:09:54.159 Soiling hired him in nineteen fifty nine, Matheson had already 1378 01:09:54.159 --> 01:09:57.800 published nearly one hundred short stories and six novels, including 1379 01:09:57.880 --> 01:10:01.279 The Shrinking Man, which became The Incredible Shrinking Man and 1380 01:10:01.600 --> 01:10:05.039 I Am Legend, just minor works like that. He ran 1381 01:10:05.079 --> 01:10:07.359 in a circle of writers known as the Group or 1382 01:10:07.439 --> 01:10:10.720 the Southern California School of Writers, that consisted of Matheson, 1383 01:10:11.239 --> 01:10:15.800 George Clayton Johnson, William F. Nolan, Charles Beaumont, and Ray Bradbury. 1384 01:10:16.439 --> 01:10:18.520 During his tenure at the Twilight Zone, he penned Nick 1385 01:10:18.600 --> 01:10:21.600 of Time, The Invaders, and Nightmare at twenty thousand Feet. 1386 01:10:22.199 --> 01:10:24.600 He was a screenwriter behind a clutch of Corman Poe 1387 01:10:24.720 --> 01:10:26.680 movies like House of Usher and pitt In the Pendulum 1388 01:10:26.720 --> 01:10:29.119 and Comedy of Terrors. Around the time that he did 1389 01:10:29.199 --> 01:10:32.800 his work here on Night Gallery, he one per transformed 1390 01:10:32.840 --> 01:10:35.800 a rather slight novel by Jeff Price into the greatest 1391 01:10:35.880 --> 01:10:39.119 paranormal journalist of all time, and Carl Kolejack because he 1392 01:10:39.199 --> 01:10:42.319 wrote Night Stalker and knight Strangler and Trilogy of Terror. 1393 01:10:42.760 --> 01:10:45.199 My god, it's too much and I'm only scratching the surface. 1394 01:10:45.920 --> 01:10:48.319 So I just want to exhort you to go out 1395 01:10:48.359 --> 01:10:50.600 and read Richard Matheson and even if none of his 1396 01:10:50.720 --> 01:10:53.399 work interest you, you should still be thankful for him, 1397 01:10:53.560 --> 01:10:56.039 because without him, there'd be no wild Stallions and no 1398 01:10:56.199 --> 01:10:58.880 being excellent to each other. Because his son, Richard Christian Matheson, 1399 01:10:58.960 --> 01:11:01.159 is one of the co crew cret of Bill and Ted. 1400 01:11:02.119 --> 01:11:04.760 I was about to say, is Richard Matheson's greatest contribution 1401 01:11:04.840 --> 01:11:08.720 to the Twilight Zone is the segment that gets remade 1402 01:11:08.920 --> 01:11:12.359 every time they do the goddamn show, is what it 1403 01:11:12.479 --> 01:11:16.760 feels like, And it's the segment that I, for whatever 1404 01:11:16.920 --> 01:11:20.319 reason in my mind, closely associate the Twilight Zone with 1405 01:11:20.760 --> 01:11:23.960 with Shatner and Nightmare at twenty thousand feet. That's the 1406 01:11:24.279 --> 01:11:28.000 Twilight Zone segment for me personally, And so I am 1407 01:11:28.039 --> 01:11:31.560 always thankful that Richard Matheson was the one who did it, because, yeah, 1408 01:11:31.600 --> 01:11:33.600 I mean, I AM Legend gets a bad rap now 1409 01:11:34.520 --> 01:11:37.319 because of you know, the movie that came out that 1410 01:11:37.520 --> 01:11:39.720 more people I think have seen than any other I 1411 01:11:39.800 --> 01:11:43.439 AM Legend property. But the book is so good. We've 1412 01:11:43.479 --> 01:11:45.039 talked about it before. I don't know if it was 1413 01:11:45.119 --> 01:11:48.439 here on Twilight Zone or something, but they have yet 1414 01:11:48.520 --> 01:11:51.079 to adapt it the right way where the actual fucking 1415 01:11:51.199 --> 01:11:55.119 title of that book makes sense yet to make the 1416 01:11:55.479 --> 01:11:57.399 They have yet to make the name of the book 1417 01:11:57.520 --> 01:12:00.600 make sense in terms of the story. But it's one. 1418 01:12:00.640 --> 01:12:03.399 I think it's one of the great sci fi novels period. 1419 01:12:04.800 --> 01:12:07.359 I mean, you can't deny the power of that book 1420 01:12:07.640 --> 01:12:11.560 and and the as you said, it's it's how have 1421 01:12:11.680 --> 01:12:14.159 they not come up with a decent filmed version of it? 1422 01:12:14.319 --> 01:12:17.359 It's such a simple little story, and yet every time 1423 01:12:17.399 --> 01:12:19.039 they do it, they either do it too small or 1424 01:12:19.079 --> 01:12:21.039 too big or Okay, the Omega Man is great, there's 1425 01:12:21.079 --> 01:12:22.880 no question the Omega Man is great, but as its 1426 01:12:22.920 --> 01:12:25.600 own thing, not necessarily as an adaptation of I Am Legend. 1427 01:12:25.800 --> 01:12:27.079 At least they change the title. 1428 01:12:27.840 --> 01:12:30.760 Who is the Legend? Tell us who the legend is? Please? 1429 01:12:31.399 --> 01:12:34.520 I'm sure, Father Malone, you've seen The Last Man on Earth, 1430 01:12:34.560 --> 01:12:36.279 the one with Vincent Price. 1431 01:12:36.119 --> 01:12:38.359 Oh, yes, which I like as well too. 1432 01:12:38.439 --> 01:12:40.479 Yeah, I think, yeah, I think that's as close as 1433 01:12:40.520 --> 01:12:41.399 where we're going to get. 1434 01:12:41.760 --> 01:12:44.279 Yeah, because you know, in the book, it's very small scale. 1435 01:12:44.359 --> 01:12:46.720 It's just him and his Pasadena house, you know, and 1436 01:12:47.039 --> 01:12:50.000 like there's no there's no grand mansion he's in, or no, 1437 01:12:50.279 --> 01:12:52.479 you know, high rise in New York. I don't know 1438 01:12:52.520 --> 01:12:54.800 what any of the adaptations are going for. Honestly, they 1439 01:12:54.800 --> 01:12:57.319 all seem to miss the point, which is just one man, 1440 01:12:57.640 --> 01:13:00.439 a normal dude who has to figure this out on 1441 01:13:00.640 --> 01:13:02.800 his own. He's not a scientist or anything. He just 1442 01:13:02.880 --> 01:13:05.279 has to He just has to work hard to figure 1443 01:13:05.319 --> 01:13:08.199 out his situation, and by then it's too late. Anyway, 1444 01:13:09.600 --> 01:13:11.720 the next time they make im legend, they should make 1445 01:13:11.760 --> 01:13:14.680 it for two million dollars, and then they have a 1446 01:13:14.840 --> 01:13:17.119 chance of making it as good as it can be. 1447 01:13:17.520 --> 01:13:19.640 I mean, it's better to just expand the scope of 1448 01:13:19.680 --> 01:13:22.479 the source material to the point where it's completely unrecognizable, 1449 01:13:22.479 --> 01:13:24.159 and then it didn't even matter you were adapting it 1450 01:13:24.239 --> 01:13:26.479 to begin with. I like that more frankly. 1451 01:13:26.760 --> 01:13:29.399 Yeah, I want Elk running through Times Square and some 1452 01:13:29.560 --> 01:13:31.439 sort of video game adaptation version. 1453 01:13:31.800 --> 01:13:35.800 Yeah, well to Batman v. Superman in the background. 1454 01:13:36.119 --> 01:13:39.600 Yeah, why, oh my god, I forgot about that. What 1455 01:13:39.800 --> 01:13:42.279 a nightmare In reality we actually live in now. 1456 01:13:45.760 --> 01:13:48.720 Our painting reminds us that there's a strange fascination of 1457 01:13:48.840 --> 01:13:52.840 digging holes alongside ancient oaks. You give the average amunt 1458 01:13:52.880 --> 01:13:56.000 of shovel and an xuum map, and the fantasy's come 1459 01:13:56.199 --> 01:14:00.960 thick and fast. Pirate gold hidden Confederate treasure and sometimes 1460 01:14:01.000 --> 01:14:07.000 the unexpected and sometimes the unwelcome, hence the title Big Surprise. 1461 01:14:08.600 --> 01:14:08.720 Now. 1462 01:14:09.399 --> 01:14:12.520 Our next segment is written by Richard Matheson, based in 1463 01:14:12.560 --> 01:14:15.920 a short story directed by Jenno's Swark. It is called 1464 01:14:16.079 --> 01:14:20.439 Big Surprise, starring Vincent Van Patten, who is our second 1465 01:14:20.640 --> 01:14:24.359 rock and roll high school alum for this season, Mark Vehanian, 1466 01:14:24.880 --> 01:14:27.119 who I'll alwayst know is Lolly Too and Bless the 1467 01:14:27.159 --> 01:14:31.960 Beast and children, Eric Chase and mister John Carradine. This 1468 01:14:32.119 --> 01:14:34.239 is the tale of three boys befriended by a crazy 1469 01:14:34.279 --> 01:14:37.399 old hermit who promises them a big surprise if they 1470 01:14:37.479 --> 01:14:40.159 can dig it up. What'd you think of this one, Mike. 1471 01:14:42.000 --> 01:14:47.840 It's short, it's pretty simple. I'm not sure if I 1472 01:14:47.960 --> 01:14:51.640 really got the twist at the end. It feels like 1473 01:14:51.760 --> 01:14:53.479 this would have freaked me out when I was a kid, 1474 01:14:53.760 --> 01:14:55.760 and I would have probably spent a lot of time 1475 01:14:55.880 --> 01:14:58.600 thinking about it. Now that I'm fifty years old, I'm 1476 01:14:58.680 --> 01:14:59.840 just like, yeah, I can't really be. 1477 01:15:03.479 --> 01:15:04.199 What about you, Chris? 1478 01:15:05.000 --> 01:15:07.720 You know how A Matter of Semantics was a one 1479 01:15:07.840 --> 01:15:11.640 panel comic. This is like three Yes, this is a 1480 01:15:11.720 --> 01:15:16.359 three panel comic. I don't know like John Kerodine is 1481 01:15:16.439 --> 01:15:20.159 sufficiently creepy, but the fact that this is a short 1482 01:15:20.279 --> 01:15:23.479 story is more surprising. That Richard Matheson was able to 1483 01:15:24.359 --> 01:15:26.600 ring as much out of this premise as he could 1484 01:15:26.640 --> 01:15:30.319 from it being a short story, because there's barely anything here. 1485 01:15:30.520 --> 01:15:33.239 It is really an old man tells a group of 1486 01:15:33.359 --> 01:15:35.760 kids to dig. Those kids don't want to follow the 1487 01:15:35.840 --> 01:15:38.319 kid who's blindly digging, and then the old man is 1488 01:15:38.359 --> 01:15:41.159 in the box at the end, like what what it there? 1489 01:15:41.239 --> 01:15:45.000 You go like, I'm not even sure what the story was. 1490 01:15:45.279 --> 01:15:47.199 How do you turn that? How is that a short story? 1491 01:15:47.720 --> 01:15:49.880 Let alone? How is that a ten minute segment? 1492 01:15:49.960 --> 01:15:52.319 In this show, a short story can be like five pages, 1493 01:15:52.399 --> 01:15:53.720 you know, I don't know how. 1494 01:15:53.640 --> 01:15:55.399 You get five pages out of this is more what 1495 01:15:55.439 --> 01:15:56.039 I'm getting at. 1496 01:15:56.079 --> 01:15:57.279 This is like one reason. 1497 01:16:00.119 --> 01:16:04.079 Log of the kids going, oh, there's probably something really 1498 01:16:04.279 --> 01:16:07.760 valuable here, and just everybody has their own ideas of 1499 01:16:07.840 --> 01:16:11.479 what's going to be that buried treasure, and then when 1500 01:16:11.520 --> 01:16:14.920 it finally happens, and describing the hot sun beating down 1501 01:16:15.000 --> 01:16:17.319 on them and YadA YadA, YadA, Like I could see 1502 01:16:17.439 --> 01:16:19.800 this being a short story, but yeah, it was just 1503 01:16:20.600 --> 01:16:22.640 there wasn't a whole lot of substance to this one. 1504 01:16:22.720 --> 01:16:25.359 For me, there's a skeleton of a good idea here, 1505 01:16:25.479 --> 01:16:28.880 it's just to what end. It feels like this is 1506 01:16:28.920 --> 01:16:31.159 a good setup for something, but I'm not sure the 1507 01:16:31.239 --> 01:16:36.079 punchline is as funny or as interesting as maybe everyone 1508 01:16:36.119 --> 01:16:38.399 else thought it was. Richard Matheson included. 1509 01:16:38.399 --> 01:16:41.640 Gentlemen, this is my favorite segment of the entire run 1510 01:16:41.800 --> 01:16:48.199 of Night Gallery. I set it up at the top, 1511 01:16:48.479 --> 01:16:50.640 right place, right time. I think I saw this when 1512 01:16:50.680 --> 01:16:53.680 I was maybe ten or eleven years old, And yes, 1513 01:16:54.079 --> 01:16:58.279 I spent many years pondering the meaning of this, still 1514 01:16:58.359 --> 01:17:04.239 having figured it out, but that obviously colors my judgment 1515 01:17:04.319 --> 01:17:07.279 of it. Nevertheless, watching it like two, three, four times 1516 01:17:07.319 --> 01:17:12.640 I did for tonight's recording here, I still love it. 1517 01:17:12.760 --> 01:17:14.479 I think it's one of the best things on the show. 1518 01:17:14.680 --> 01:17:17.520 Like the way it's shot. This nothing feels set down. 1519 01:17:17.760 --> 01:17:22.960 All the performances are good, the music which I really 1520 01:17:23.000 --> 01:17:24.640 paid attention to music. And we're gonna have to talk 1521 01:17:24.680 --> 01:17:27.239 about Gil Millay at some point because he came up 1522 01:17:27.239 --> 01:17:29.840 with a lot of He like made a lot of instruments. 1523 01:17:29.920 --> 01:17:32.079 So sometimes when you think you're hearing a water phone 1524 01:17:32.159 --> 01:17:35.239 or a synth that's actually some thing that he's Frankenstein together. 1525 01:17:35.680 --> 01:17:37.960 But I really like the music in this episode. It 1526 01:17:38.039 --> 01:17:41.159 starts off almost comic with like brass, but by the 1527 01:17:41.239 --> 01:17:44.720 time they're digging, it's all bongos and these like shrieking violins, 1528 01:17:45.039 --> 01:17:46.960 and by the end it's just nothing but a song 1529 01:17:47.199 --> 01:17:50.840 cello and this water phone synth combination. It's fantastic. I 1530 01:17:50.920 --> 01:17:53.520 love it. There are shots in it that I absolutely adore. 1531 01:17:53.680 --> 01:17:56.439 Like I meant at the start of this, this is 1532 01:17:56.680 --> 01:17:58.680 you know, kids daring each other and you you know, 1533 01:17:58.840 --> 01:18:01.399 peer pressure and whatever. They don't want to like the 1534 01:18:01.520 --> 01:18:03.560 old man's calling them over and they're calling each other 1535 01:18:03.720 --> 01:18:07.760 chicken for not going over. And the lead kid while 1536 01:18:07.800 --> 01:18:09.600 he's deciding if he's going to go over and talk 1537 01:18:09.680 --> 01:18:13.239 to old mister Hawkins, the shot is of him in 1538 01:18:13.319 --> 01:18:15.359 the in the background, but in the foreground is the 1539 01:18:15.600 --> 01:18:18.920 other kid, the Lally two kid, his yo yo just 1540 01:18:19.000 --> 01:18:21.079 sort of dropping up and down in the frame, and 1541 01:18:21.199 --> 01:18:22.800 it's just I don't know, it just summed it up 1542 01:18:22.840 --> 01:18:24.920 for me. I do need to say that if aliens 1543 01:18:25.000 --> 01:18:27.880 are receiving television broadcasts from us in deep space, then 1544 01:18:28.039 --> 01:18:30.079 I think they think the entirety of America looks like 1545 01:18:30.199 --> 01:18:32.960 the hills just outside Los Angeles. That's the only failing 1546 01:18:33.000 --> 01:18:35.199 for me in the episode is once again we get 1547 01:18:35.239 --> 01:18:38.640 the same sort of Well's we can drive twenty minutes 1548 01:18:38.680 --> 01:18:40.520 and make it look different than the backlot, but at 1549 01:18:40.600 --> 01:18:42.279 least they did that because it doesn't look like the 1550 01:18:42.279 --> 01:18:46.840 backlock backlot to me, I think the ending works because 1551 01:18:47.479 --> 01:18:51.560 carry Dene is so fucking creepy. I want to speak 1552 01:18:51.560 --> 01:18:53.520 to what you said, Chris, because I thought it too 1553 01:18:53.600 --> 01:18:56.119 when I was watching it, like this is effectively a 1554 01:18:56.199 --> 01:18:59.560 blackout sketch. It does now make me wish that all 1555 01:18:59.640 --> 01:19:01.560 of the black backout sketches for this, you know, like 1556 01:19:01.760 --> 01:19:04.239 I enjoy laughing at Dracula as much as the next guy, 1557 01:19:04.319 --> 01:19:06.239 But if you want to have an interstitial be this, 1558 01:19:07.039 --> 01:19:09.479 then it would have elevated the whole series. 1559 01:19:09.279 --> 01:19:12.199 Up and that, And honestly, that's kind of where I 1560 01:19:12.359 --> 01:19:17.439 came away from this specific segment because we haven't gotten 1561 01:19:17.600 --> 01:19:22.159 a lot of these kind of segments a not a 1562 01:19:22.279 --> 01:19:25.000 complete committal to it being half of the episode and 1563 01:19:25.199 --> 01:19:29.359 not it being, you know, a blackout sketch in between. 1564 01:19:29.520 --> 01:19:31.640 We haven't gotten a lot of those on the show, 1565 01:19:32.079 --> 01:19:34.479 and I feel like that's an untapped opportunity for the 1566 01:19:34.560 --> 01:19:39.520 show makers and showrunners and writers to do something that's 1567 01:19:40.319 --> 01:19:44.479 more in between, not a complete narrative, but also not 1568 01:19:44.720 --> 01:19:47.600 just you know, huck huck, there's a vampire suck in 1569 01:19:47.680 --> 01:19:51.640 somebody's neck, and that this kind of occupies that interesting 1570 01:19:51.680 --> 01:19:56.359 middle ground made me appreciate this segment more than it 1571 01:19:56.479 --> 01:19:59.000 might have if it had been just a just a 1572 01:19:59.159 --> 01:20:02.439 blackout segment, Cause again, the opportunity for this to be 1573 01:20:02.439 --> 01:20:05.199 a blackout segment is there, Like if they didn't, if 1574 01:20:05.239 --> 01:20:06.920 they just cut some of this out, it really is 1575 01:20:07.119 --> 01:20:09.439 just a blackout segment. The fact that it's not, and 1576 01:20:09.520 --> 01:20:11.199 that it's a little bit more than that makes this 1577 01:20:12.199 --> 01:20:15.000 one that I can completely understand where you're coming from. 1578 01:20:15.119 --> 01:20:17.960 Why you why it hit just right at the right 1579 01:20:18.039 --> 01:20:18.520 time for you. 1580 01:20:18.960 --> 01:20:20.960 Yeah, and you know, I was basically the age of 1581 01:20:21.000 --> 01:20:24.760 these kids, and there's you know it it felt, it 1582 01:20:24.840 --> 01:20:28.199 felt at the time like it understood childhood. It still 1583 01:20:28.239 --> 01:20:30.920 feels that way to me. Like like Serling at the 1584 01:20:31.039 --> 01:20:33.159 at the stop in his intro for it, I thought 1585 01:20:33.199 --> 01:20:35.039 he summed it up really well. He talks about you know, 1586 01:20:35.600 --> 01:20:38.800 child basically child of being obsessed with like buried treasure 1587 01:20:38.840 --> 01:20:40.439 and X marks a spot and like there is a 1588 01:20:40.520 --> 01:20:43.800 time in your life when that potential for adventure exists 1589 01:20:43.840 --> 01:20:45.840 in your head and like maybe if I dig, I 1590 01:20:46.000 --> 01:20:48.800 will find some treasure. You know, I'm just gonna keep 1591 01:20:48.800 --> 01:20:51.079 praising it over and over again. I did, like I said, 1592 01:20:51.119 --> 01:20:53.119 turn the ending over and over again in my head, 1593 01:20:53.159 --> 01:20:55.960 Like I still don't know, Like was was he a 1594 01:20:56.000 --> 01:20:56.920 ghost the whole time? 1595 01:20:57.199 --> 01:20:57.880 Is he? Was? 1596 01:20:57.920 --> 01:21:01.239 He buried alive? And that was his spe Like is 1597 01:21:01.319 --> 01:21:03.279 he just some crazy old man who's dug a tunnel 1598 01:21:03.279 --> 01:21:05.439 from his house to this thing? And I don't know. 1599 01:21:05.880 --> 01:21:11.640 It's like every possibility is terrible, so that I don't know. 1600 01:21:11.840 --> 01:21:15.239 I love this one painting number one. It has to 1601 01:21:15.359 --> 01:21:19.239 do with death, usually the last chapter in every man's 1602 01:21:19.279 --> 01:21:22.479 book of life, the ashes in the dust, the tomb, 1603 01:21:22.560 --> 01:21:26.960 and the engraving on the stone, death the finale. But 1604 01:21:27.159 --> 01:21:30.840 our first painting offers up a tail with the final curtain, 1605 01:21:30.960 --> 01:21:34.680 not quite the final curtain. There's an epilog. We offer, 1606 01:21:34.720 --> 01:21:38.560 you know, a little item called cool Air. Tonight's first 1607 01:21:38.640 --> 01:21:40.399 painting in the Night Gallery. 1608 01:21:40.760 --> 01:21:43.840 Cool Air was written by Rod Serling from a short 1609 01:21:43.920 --> 01:21:47.840 story by H. P. Lovecraft and directed by Jeno Swark 1610 01:21:48.119 --> 01:21:53.079 twenty two segments, Gentlemen, Jeno Smart twenty two segment. 1611 01:21:53.079 --> 01:21:54.479 At least it's not Gene Kearney. 1612 01:21:54.680 --> 01:21:58.960 Wow, thank god it's not Jeane Kearny doing twenty two segments. 1613 01:21:59.000 --> 01:22:01.840 I think I would lose my This one stars Henry 1614 01:22:01.960 --> 01:22:05.359 Darrow Barbara Rush, who, by the way, appeared in a 1615 01:22:05.439 --> 01:22:08.039 TV movie called The Man, which was about the first 1616 01:22:08.119 --> 01:22:11.520 Black President starring James Earl Jones, written by Rod Star. 1617 01:22:11.920 --> 01:22:16.119 Oh yeah, such a great, great movie. 1618 01:22:16.279 --> 01:22:21.119 This is the tale of a May December romance. What 1619 01:22:21.199 --> 01:22:22.239 do you think of this one, Mike? 1620 01:22:22.439 --> 01:22:31.520 It left me cold, o bing bang. Yes, I was 1621 01:22:31.560 --> 01:22:39.119 waiting for that room shot there, Chris, Yeah, there we go. 1622 01:22:39.600 --> 01:22:42.000 Late on the uptake around here. We just got the 1623 01:22:42.159 --> 01:22:42.760 sound for. 1624 01:22:44.600 --> 01:22:49.199 Uh yeah, we're back in HP Lovecraft territory. Though again, 1625 01:22:49.840 --> 01:22:53.479 I can tell what's going on. Why are we supposed 1626 01:22:53.479 --> 01:22:56.920 to not figure this stuff out? Like, yeah, the guy's dead, 1627 01:22:57.159 --> 01:22:59.239 Like I could tell you that right from the get go. 1628 01:23:00.439 --> 01:23:03.720 I don't know. I was. I really wanted to like 1629 01:23:03.840 --> 01:23:06.800 this one. Maybe if it was like half the length, 1630 01:23:07.000 --> 01:23:08.960 I would have liked it a little bit more. But 1631 01:23:09.119 --> 01:23:11.239 at the length that it was, and just that I 1632 01:23:11.279 --> 01:23:17.479 could see the twist coming. H yeah, it did it, 1633 01:23:18.079 --> 01:23:19.880 no joke could diddly be cold? 1634 01:23:20.000 --> 01:23:24.119 Boy? They love HP Lovecraft, don't they? They really really 1635 01:23:24.239 --> 01:23:27.920 do I need Look, I'm not gonna say, oh it 1636 01:23:28.039 --> 01:23:31.319 a what a weird HP Lovecraft story to adapt, because look, 1637 01:23:31.880 --> 01:23:33.960 HP Lovecraft in a lot of ways is like Stephen King, 1638 01:23:34.119 --> 01:23:36.960 like he's got plenty of things to adapt, folks, and 1639 01:23:37.000 --> 01:23:42.039 they're not all winners for a reason. Whatever the fuck. 1640 01:23:42.119 --> 01:23:44.680 The conceit of this episode is that there is a 1641 01:23:44.840 --> 01:23:49.000 man who has a living corps because he lives in 1642 01:23:49.079 --> 01:23:53.680 an ice box. You know what, sure, fine, whatever, but 1643 01:23:53.840 --> 01:23:58.359 that's like a ten minute episode segment, not a twenty 1644 01:23:58.960 --> 01:24:04.479 minute segment like good Lord. And I'm you know, not 1645 01:24:04.640 --> 01:24:07.319 to jump ahead, but I'm not sure that that criticism 1646 01:24:07.439 --> 01:24:09.760 is not going to be leveled against both of these segments. 1647 01:24:09.800 --> 01:24:12.600 I think they're both too long for what they're trying 1648 01:24:12.680 --> 01:24:16.720 to do. I think this one is way too long 1649 01:24:16.840 --> 01:24:18.600 for what the punchline is. And look, I'm not saying 1650 01:24:18.640 --> 01:24:23.560 the punchline doesn't work. It's it's sufficiently campy and kind 1651 01:24:23.640 --> 01:24:29.319 of goofy, but way too long, just way, way way 1652 01:24:29.680 --> 01:24:30.239 to well. 1653 01:24:30.439 --> 01:24:33.760 It also doesn't help that it feels so similar to 1654 01:24:34.800 --> 01:24:37.479 the one we just talked about on our last episode 1655 01:24:38.039 --> 01:24:41.920 with the woman that was well, wait. 1656 01:24:43.359 --> 01:24:43.920 Is that the one? 1657 01:24:44.239 --> 01:24:48.239 Was it a woman that was being menaced by that thing? 1658 01:24:48.600 --> 01:24:52.439 Or am I completely mixing this up? In Pickman's Yeah, 1659 01:24:52.760 --> 01:24:56.159 it's also HP Lovecraft, right, And it's like basically a 1660 01:24:56.199 --> 01:24:58.000 woman comes in and it's just like, oh, what is 1661 01:24:58.039 --> 01:25:00.520 this stuff? And then oh there's a big or a 1662 01:25:00.560 --> 01:25:02.439 big twist quote unquote at the end. 1663 01:25:02.880 --> 01:25:04.960 Yeah, it's it's a shame that they they're on the 1664 01:25:05.039 --> 01:25:09.600 heels of one another because the romance aspect is not 1665 01:25:09.880 --> 01:25:13.800 present in the original HP Lovecraft story. And I actually 1666 01:25:13.880 --> 01:25:16.840 think it's an improvement by Rod Sling in that regard. 1667 01:25:16.920 --> 01:25:18.640 And if you read the original story, there's a lot 1668 01:25:18.720 --> 01:25:21.199 of like, you know, he's supposed to be from Spain, 1669 01:25:21.439 --> 01:25:25.359 so it's all phonetically written like oh alleal l E 1670 01:25:25.560 --> 01:25:30.079 E T l E. It's very embarrassing. Henry Darrow. Henry 1671 01:25:30.159 --> 01:25:32.920 Darrow here, he's five years younger than Barbara Rush playing 1672 01:25:32.960 --> 01:25:36.199 a dashing older man. I liked him. I liked his 1673 01:25:36.319 --> 01:25:38.880 performance a lot. I thought Barbara Rush was really good. 1674 01:25:39.560 --> 01:25:43.840 There is another unnecessary wrap around, just like the Pickman's 1675 01:25:43.880 --> 01:25:46.000 model in the last one, which starts in the present 1676 01:25:46.079 --> 01:25:49.560 for no reason and then takes us back like that. That, 1677 01:25:49.760 --> 01:25:52.039 to me is the lamest part of it, is the 1678 01:25:52.159 --> 01:25:56.760 serling concoction that we're going to see the leaves blow 1679 01:25:56.840 --> 01:25:58.880 off the top of the gravestone at the end and 1680 01:25:58.960 --> 01:26:01.960 realize he's been dead twice. By the way, who put 1681 01:26:02.039 --> 01:26:02.319 that there? 1682 01:26:02.359 --> 01:26:03.159 She put that in there? 1683 01:26:03.359 --> 01:26:06.119 Why would that be on there? Weirdest thing ever, by 1684 01:26:06.159 --> 01:26:08.119 the way his name is misspelled on the grave. 1685 01:26:09.399 --> 01:26:12.479 High production values abound at midnight at the at the 1686 01:26:12.680 --> 01:26:15.960 Night Gallery podcast. I guess this isn't the podcast as 1687 01:26:16.039 --> 01:26:17.319 high production values. 1688 01:26:17.039 --> 01:26:17.800 This show doesn't. 1689 01:26:17.960 --> 01:26:18.680 Is this the back lot? 1690 01:26:20.800 --> 01:26:24.520 Oh? Speaking of the backlot and high production at one point, 1691 01:26:24.760 --> 01:26:26.720 like this starts as a period piece. It's set in 1692 01:26:26.720 --> 01:26:28.560 the nineteen twenties, and she's in the back of you 1693 01:26:28.640 --> 01:26:32.119 know what is you know, basically a horseless carriage is 1694 01:26:32.520 --> 01:26:35.279 like driving down the street and in the background the 1695 01:26:35.359 --> 01:26:38.039 street is blocked off by a Universal Studios van. 1696 01:26:39.039 --> 01:26:43.800 Oops. Oh geez, I mean, what are you what are 1697 01:26:43.880 --> 01:26:45.199 you implying? Father alone? 1698 01:26:45.359 --> 01:26:47.880 Maybe shoot the scene at night? 1699 01:26:49.279 --> 01:26:51.159 I thought you were like, what are you are you 1700 01:26:51.279 --> 01:26:54.600 implying that this fruit stand back there? 1701 01:26:54.840 --> 01:26:57.479 Or like two guys carrying a pane of glass anything 1702 01:26:57.680 --> 01:27:01.880 other than a vehicle from nineteen seventy one, just sitting 1703 01:27:01.920 --> 01:27:05.239 there like, hey, folks, the tour is right right this way. 1704 01:27:05.439 --> 01:27:08.000 Hey, who was asleep at the wheel at this point? 1705 01:27:08.239 --> 01:27:09.399 H that's the question. 1706 01:27:09.640 --> 01:27:12.560 I blame Jano, But Jane did do something really cool here. 1707 01:27:13.359 --> 01:27:16.119 There's a conversation scene when they're sort of falling in love. 1708 01:27:16.800 --> 01:27:19.479 It's a minute and a half pan around the dinner table. 1709 01:27:20.800 --> 01:27:24.319 There's a join in it, but it's really masterful considering 1710 01:27:24.640 --> 01:27:28.640 all the other limitations that they're sort of saddled with. Also, 1711 01:27:28.720 --> 01:27:33.439 the music in this episode, this was a guest composer 1712 01:27:33.680 --> 01:27:37.800 guy named Robert Bain. He's an LA session musician. Was 1713 01:27:37.840 --> 01:27:42.119 actually Henry Mancini's guitarist and he was specifically chosen by 1714 01:27:42.199 --> 01:27:46.239 Lair to do a Spanish flavored theme for this episode 1715 01:27:46.279 --> 01:27:48.880 and actually works really well. As far as I'm concerned, 1716 01:27:49.000 --> 01:27:52.199 is this episode about because Sling made it of romance? 1717 01:27:52.600 --> 01:27:56.840 Is this now a tale of necropeelings Jesus. 1718 01:27:57.960 --> 01:28:05.199 Necromantic? I'm just saying, I mean, if we're talking literally, 1719 01:28:05.399 --> 01:28:09.279 then yes, well, all right, good for you. Rod HP 1720 01:28:09.399 --> 01:28:11.560 Lovecraft was into some freaky shit. 1721 01:28:11.680 --> 01:28:13.880 Lovecraft didn't have anything to do with that part of it. 1722 01:28:14.000 --> 01:28:14.800 That's all surling. 1723 01:28:15.279 --> 01:28:18.159 Yeah, but I mean the concept, you know, the concept 1724 01:28:18.319 --> 01:28:20.359 though it still lends itself in that direction. 1725 01:28:20.560 --> 01:28:23.079 The concept of necrophilia just goes way back to the 1726 01:28:23.119 --> 01:28:25.880 beginning of civilization. We always had it with us. It 1727 01:28:26.000 --> 01:28:29.199 just took Rod Sterling to really popularize it. Use it 1728 01:28:29.279 --> 01:28:30.760 in between commercials for soap. 1729 01:28:36.279 --> 01:28:40.479 I only use ajax when I now back to necrophilia. 1730 01:28:41.680 --> 01:28:45.159 It's the most romantic presentation of necrophilia I've ever seen. 1731 01:28:45.279 --> 01:28:46.000 I was moved. 1732 01:28:46.239 --> 01:28:50.880 I yeah, you know, when you think about it that way, boy, 1733 01:28:50.960 --> 01:28:52.960 it really puts it all in perspective, doesn't it. 1734 01:28:54.399 --> 01:28:54.680 You know what? 1735 01:28:54.800 --> 01:28:59.239 Hey, I I wish the payoff was in an episode 1736 01:28:59.319 --> 01:29:02.079 half the episode segment half the lenk that's really it. 1737 01:29:02.359 --> 01:29:05.600 Like it's not a bad segment. I just don't think 1738 01:29:05.680 --> 01:29:08.199 it gets to the point fast enough. And also like 1739 01:29:08.279 --> 01:29:10.800 you're stalling as if we can't kind of figure out 1740 01:29:10.800 --> 01:29:12.880 what's going on, Like, was anyone surprised at the end 1741 01:29:12.960 --> 01:29:16.079 that he was a corpse? Like they kind of you know, 1742 01:29:17.000 --> 01:29:20.199 hint at it a lot, like a lot, a lot, 1743 01:29:20.279 --> 01:29:22.279 a lot, a lot a lot. Yeah. 1744 01:29:22.680 --> 01:29:25.840 Also, this episode does contain I think the single worst 1745 01:29:25.880 --> 01:29:28.800 performance in any segment we've seen thus far, which is 1746 01:29:29.199 --> 01:29:33.920 that handyman ice carrying guy, whoever he is. What's with 1747 01:29:34.079 --> 01:29:36.960 the guy in there with the he's got ice in 1748 01:29:37.079 --> 01:29:40.800 the bathroom, just pulling all these faces like he's you know, 1749 01:29:41.239 --> 01:29:42.720 I don't know, like he's auditioning. 1750 01:29:44.000 --> 01:29:45.760 He's late stage Leslie Nielsen. 1751 01:29:46.239 --> 01:29:47.079 Oh, he was bad. 1752 01:29:47.600 --> 01:29:51.359 Eight of number three in the night Gallery, you'll probably 1753 01:29:51.439 --> 01:29:55.800 recognize as quaint figurine, the dead eyes, the sown lips, 1754 01:29:56.439 --> 01:30:00.159 the kind of thing that usually infest nightmares, and that 1755 01:30:00.279 --> 01:30:03.720 happens to be precisely what it is, a nightmare. 1756 01:30:03.359 --> 01:30:04.159 Of the first order. 1757 01:30:04.720 --> 01:30:06.840 It's titled Agoda's Heads. 1758 01:30:13.239 --> 01:30:15.920 Indeed we are in this segment called the Lagoda's Heads, 1759 01:30:15.960 --> 01:30:20.600 written by Robert Block, author of Psycho Robert Block, from 1760 01:30:20.640 --> 01:30:24.479 a short story by August Derlett, directed by my favorite 1761 01:30:24.680 --> 01:30:27.159 Jeno Zwark. All three of them should have known better. 1762 01:30:27.319 --> 01:30:30.960 This one stars Patrick McNee, Brock Peters, Denise Nicholas and 1763 01:30:31.079 --> 01:30:34.560 Tim Matheson and a terrible mustache. It's the tale of 1764 01:30:34.600 --> 01:30:37.239 an explorer who escorts an American in search of his 1765 01:30:37.319 --> 01:30:40.039 brother in the darkest jungles of Africa. I was really 1766 01:30:40.119 --> 01:30:42.399 worried at the outset on this one, guys, But I 1767 01:30:42.479 --> 01:30:46.560 think this was a respectful presentation as respectful a presentation 1768 01:30:46.680 --> 01:30:51.119 as possible, while still requiring Starfleet Admiral Cartwright to speak 1769 01:30:51.159 --> 01:30:54.279 in Pigeon English while wearing a dashiki, which I think 1770 01:30:54.319 --> 01:30:55.000 of this one, Mike. 1771 01:31:00.199 --> 01:31:03.159 Yeah, anything that has Brock Peters in it, I'm pretty 1772 01:31:03.199 --> 01:31:08.119 happy with, but mostly just when he's on screen. Denise Nicholas, 1773 01:31:08.359 --> 01:31:11.119 she looked so familiar. And then I went back and 1774 01:31:11.199 --> 01:31:13.600 I looked at her filmography and yeah, I've seen a 1775 01:31:13.640 --> 01:31:15.159 bunch of stuff that she was in. I want to 1776 01:31:15.159 --> 01:31:18.279 say she was in Uptown Saturday Night, I'm pretty sure. 1777 01:31:18.640 --> 01:31:21.520 Or yeah, let's do it again, one of those of 1778 01:31:21.640 --> 01:31:26.079 the Cosby Portier films. But yeah again, did I see 1779 01:31:26.119 --> 01:31:26.840 the twists coming? 1780 01:31:27.199 --> 01:31:27.439 Yeah? 1781 01:31:27.760 --> 01:31:30.319 Yeah, I sure did. Did I want to see more 1782 01:31:30.359 --> 01:31:32.560 of those heads? And did I want to see them 1783 01:31:32.640 --> 01:31:34.960 talk and do other kind of cool things? I sure 1784 01:31:35.039 --> 01:31:37.640 did it. That didn't really get to see that one, 1785 01:31:38.039 --> 01:31:39.640 but at least I got to see a very young 1786 01:31:39.760 --> 01:31:42.720 Roger E. Moseley with kind of a bad accent come 1787 01:31:42.800 --> 01:31:46.159 in and tell them that that Lakota is or Lagoda 1788 01:31:46.279 --> 01:31:49.560 has died. So it was kind of neat, and then yeah, 1789 01:31:49.640 --> 01:31:53.439 Tim Matheson and that ridiculous mustache. I didn't even recognize 1790 01:31:53.479 --> 01:31:54.399 him at first until. 1791 01:31:54.239 --> 01:31:55.199 I heard his voice hotter. 1792 01:31:57.800 --> 01:32:00.520 But yeah, it was okay again. And I feel like 1793 01:32:00.600 --> 01:32:02.600 this one went on for a little too long. How 1794 01:32:02.640 --> 01:32:04.039 long was this one? Was this another twin? 1795 01:32:04.359 --> 01:32:06.920 It felt like no one was Yeah, this one was 1796 01:32:06.960 --> 01:32:07.479 only right. 1797 01:32:08.199 --> 01:32:13.199 This has been an episode with mediocrity. It's fine, I 1798 01:32:13.279 --> 01:32:15.560 mean yeah, like Mike said, the twist can be seen 1799 01:32:15.680 --> 01:32:19.279 from orbit, for fuck's sake, like I for an let 1800 01:32:19.279 --> 01:32:21.920 me put this way for an episode segment called Logota's Heads, 1801 01:32:22.319 --> 01:32:25.199 there is not enough head here, not enough of the 1802 01:32:25.279 --> 01:32:28.159 heads doing stuff. The heads of Lagoda's heads are not 1803 01:32:28.359 --> 01:32:32.239 present enough to call it Lagoda's heads. And the question 1804 01:32:32.319 --> 01:32:34.079 then becomes, how did the heads kill him? 1805 01:32:34.439 --> 01:32:37.720 Uh? They summoned forces or they chewed him up themselves. 1806 01:32:37.760 --> 01:32:40.359 I don't know. Maybe they came off the mob the. 1807 01:32:40.439 --> 01:32:47.319 Second the second answer came off the log exactly, the 1808 01:32:47.479 --> 01:32:50.600 Tim burtonization of them. Yeah, what about you, father, blam? 1809 01:32:50.640 --> 01:32:51.199 What did you think? 1810 01:32:51.600 --> 01:32:54.199 I think having a shrunken head nook is important when 1811 01:32:54.199 --> 01:32:55.199 you're buying a new home. 1812 01:32:58.359 --> 01:33:00.399 Does it come with or without the stick is the 1813 01:33:00.439 --> 01:33:01.720 stick included. 1814 01:33:01.520 --> 01:33:06.880 I would assume so, otherwise it's just a nook. I 1815 01:33:07.079 --> 01:33:09.640 like that. They go, they arrived, it's always great to 1816 01:33:09.680 --> 01:33:12.640 see Patrick McNee by the way, you know John Steed. 1817 01:33:13.319 --> 01:33:17.199 But they go into the hut to talk to Lagoda, 1818 01:33:17.880 --> 01:33:22.039 and Lagota clearly speaks English, but for some reason, Tim 1819 01:33:22.079 --> 01:33:25.520 Matheson keeps talking to Patrick mcnei as if he's a translator. 1820 01:33:26.039 --> 01:33:28.319 Ask him about my brother, like I think he heard 1821 01:33:28.399 --> 01:33:31.840 you just then he'll probably answer you if he so chooses. 1822 01:33:32.640 --> 01:33:35.600 Also late in the episode, Tim Mathieson exclaims at one point, 1823 01:33:35.760 --> 01:33:38.199 and most people would have said, my god, he says 1824 01:33:38.800 --> 01:33:42.000 mother of Satan. It was I had to rewind it. 1825 01:33:46.600 --> 01:33:47.479 That'd be a good. 1826 01:33:49.439 --> 01:33:51.680 By the way, it is dumbala, just the word. I 1827 01:33:51.800 --> 01:33:54.000 kept waiting for Chunky to come running out because they 1828 01:33:54.039 --> 01:33:56.399 had dumb balla while. They were, you know, talking to 1829 01:33:56.520 --> 01:34:00.000 the heads. I don't know, not enough. There weren't anough 1830 01:34:00.159 --> 01:34:02.159 of the heads. I was intrigued by the heads. I 1831 01:34:02.319 --> 01:34:04.239 was hoping one of the heads would come to life, 1832 01:34:04.359 --> 01:34:06.159 just one of them, at least one. 1833 01:34:06.439 --> 01:34:10.960 Well, you said it's called log, It's called Lota's fucking head. 1834 01:34:11.279 --> 01:34:14.479 They show the thing Goda's Head's wind machine is what 1835 01:34:14.600 --> 01:34:18.199 we get. Just like they'll just sort of vibrate a 1836 01:34:18.239 --> 01:34:20.039 little and hear some sounds and. 1837 01:34:20.399 --> 01:34:24.560 Somebody's just shaking it off screen. Just oh, they're moving. 1838 01:34:25.039 --> 01:34:27.520 The actor you mentioned Mike earlier, who comes in to 1839 01:34:27.600 --> 01:34:30.119 tell them that Logota is dead, you're saying, he's doing 1840 01:34:30.159 --> 01:34:32.359 a really weird accent. Like all I could think was 1841 01:34:32.479 --> 01:34:36.079 like you could just see him bristling against this bullshit 1842 01:34:36.600 --> 01:34:39.920 native dialogue that they all three of our sort of 1843 01:34:40.039 --> 01:34:44.479 principal leads have been saddled with just a rankling at it, 1844 01:34:45.159 --> 01:34:47.279 Like can I just speak in a full sentence, like, 1845 01:34:48.600 --> 01:34:50.560 by the way, what year was this? Was this supposed 1846 01:34:50.560 --> 01:34:52.239 to be the two of the century, because it could 1847 01:34:52.279 --> 01:34:54.279 have been really any time. It might have been nineteen 1848 01:34:54.359 --> 01:34:55.640 seventy one for all we knew. 1849 01:34:57.560 --> 01:34:59.800 Yeah, I want to say around this time, Rogerie Mosley 1850 01:34:59.880 --> 01:35:03.640 was doing The MAC where he was a African nationalist, 1851 01:35:03.840 --> 01:35:06.920 so much different character and something. 1852 01:35:06.960 --> 01:35:09.680 I think, Yeah, he just seemed like uninterested and he 1853 01:35:09.800 --> 01:35:13.159 just wanted to I'm saying the words, here are the words, right, 1854 01:35:13.439 --> 01:35:16.880 this is what you wanted? And good for him. Yeah, 1855 01:35:18.760 --> 01:35:22.039 I hope everyone got paid because you know, you're right, Chris, 1856 01:35:22.199 --> 01:35:26.119 this is It's not terrible, it's just there. This entire 1857 01:35:26.199 --> 01:35:30.520 episode was just kind of there, which I suppose is 1858 01:35:30.600 --> 01:35:34.640 better than a bad episode. But still, this is an 1859 01:35:34.640 --> 01:35:37.840 episode that began with the boy who predicted her earthquakes, 1860 01:35:38.000 --> 01:35:42.479 and we need to be shooting higher folks. It's not enough. 1861 01:35:43.359 --> 01:35:47.159 It's not enough that Sandra d is gonna die after 1862 01:35:47.319 --> 01:35:47.720 killing her. 1863 01:35:48.319 --> 01:35:53.800 It's just not She's gonna kill herself. Don't forget, she's 1864 01:35:53.800 --> 01:35:56.199 straight up. They go, you gonna kill yourself, by the way, 1865 01:35:56.399 --> 01:36:00.239 like great cool, just as the. 1866 01:36:00.239 --> 01:36:03.159 First like sort of time travel plot i've ever seen, 1867 01:36:03.239 --> 01:36:07.680 honestly where the characters are uninterested at all in changing 1868 01:36:07.720 --> 01:36:08.199 their face. 1869 01:36:08.920 --> 01:36:09.760 I know, the future. 1870 01:36:09.840 --> 01:36:12.239 Who fuck they just see and everything's just like, well, 1871 01:36:12.279 --> 01:36:15.800 that's weird, Like it doesn't factor. You know, he gives 1872 01:36:15.840 --> 01:36:18.039 the message, but the message had already been given. That 1873 01:36:18.199 --> 01:36:18.960 was faded as well. 1874 01:36:19.039 --> 01:36:21.560 It's like this segment is so good. We're talking about 1875 01:36:21.600 --> 01:36:24.720 the other segment while talking about this one segment is 1876 01:36:24.720 --> 01:36:30.600 such it's a nothing burger. Like August Derlith's stories are varied, 1877 01:36:31.000 --> 01:36:32.840 Father Malone, you know that because I know you've looked 1878 01:36:32.880 --> 01:36:36.399 into his I mean, it's varied stuff right, like, but 1879 01:36:36.520 --> 01:36:40.039 it's a lot of horror or horror adjacent whatever this 1880 01:36:40.279 --> 01:36:41.520 is is not that well. 1881 01:36:41.560 --> 01:36:44.600 It's supposed to be a supernatural tale, but we don't 1882 01:36:44.640 --> 01:36:47.840 see anything happen at all. We don't even get to 1883 01:36:47.840 --> 01:36:48.520 see broh. 1884 01:36:48.600 --> 01:36:51.199 We know Denise Nicholas just killed him, like and just 1885 01:36:51.279 --> 01:36:53.880 put his head there anyway. He's like, who knows? Oh yeah, 1886 01:36:53.960 --> 01:36:55.560 the heads killed him or I just did it, and 1887 01:36:55.560 --> 01:36:56.319 who gives a shit. 1888 01:36:56.640 --> 01:36:58.479 It would have been good had she said, well, no, 1889 01:36:58.600 --> 01:37:02.279 it was me. I can with your brother. There's nothing 1890 01:37:02.319 --> 01:37:04.520 you can do about it because I got these heads now, babe. 1891 01:37:04.800 --> 01:37:05.680 That would have been great. 1892 01:37:05.960 --> 01:37:06.159 Yeah. 1893 01:37:06.239 --> 01:37:08.319 Instead it was like, no, I know he killed why 1894 01:37:08.399 --> 01:37:10.880 did he kill? We don't get any of that information 1895 01:37:11.000 --> 01:37:13.560 to get those heads talking. Come on, they got mouths 1896 01:37:13.680 --> 01:37:14.279 unstitch it. 1897 01:37:14.640 --> 01:37:18.520 Eh man, It's fine. This episode is better than some 1898 01:37:18.720 --> 01:37:21.279 of them this season, which is not saying much, but 1899 01:37:21.399 --> 01:37:22.560 it's saying more than you. 1900 01:37:22.560 --> 01:37:24.039 Would think saying enough. 1901 01:37:24.640 --> 01:37:28.199 Yeah, I agree it is. You use the word nothing burger. 1902 01:37:28.239 --> 01:37:29.880 I don't tend to use that too often, but I 1903 01:37:29.920 --> 01:37:33.279 would say this is all that and no bag of chips. 1904 01:37:33.640 --> 01:37:39.079 General generic area of costume jewelry note girl and note expression. 1905 01:37:39.920 --> 01:37:43.319 Obviously a lady much disturbed by whatever little bubbles she 1906 01:37:43.359 --> 01:37:47.840 has recently been the recipient of said sentence, improperly ending 1907 01:37:47.880 --> 01:37:51.079 on a preposition. But this story ending on a much 1908 01:37:51.159 --> 01:37:54.720 more deadly note than that. We call it a feast of. 1909 01:37:54.800 --> 01:38:01.279 Blood, all right. Our next segment is a feast of blood. 1910 01:38:01.399 --> 01:38:04.840 This was written by Stanford Whitmore, based on the short 1911 01:38:04.880 --> 01:38:08.319 story The Fur Brooch by Dulcie Gray, and directed by 1912 01:38:08.479 --> 01:38:13.000 Jeno Zwark. This one stars Norman Lloyd, Sondra Locke and 1913 01:38:13.239 --> 01:38:15.520 Hermione Badly. It's the story of a young woman in 1914 01:38:15.600 --> 01:38:18.239 a rather ominous suitor in the weird broch he offers 1915 01:38:18.279 --> 01:38:22.000 her as a present. I'll start on this one here, 1916 01:38:22.199 --> 01:38:28.319 you fellas, Thank you, all right, Norman Lloyd. I'm going 1917 01:38:28.359 --> 01:38:29.800 to start with the good things that I like in 1918 01:38:29.880 --> 01:38:32.680 this segment. Norman Lloyd, who I think most people of 1919 01:38:32.760 --> 01:38:34.279 my age may be a little bit older, know him 1920 01:38:34.279 --> 01:38:37.039 from Saint Elsewhere, which he was great on, But in 1921 01:38:37.119 --> 01:38:40.680 the decade previous he was a producer on Alfred Hitchcock Presents, 1922 01:38:41.119 --> 01:38:43.720 which I did not know. And the weird sort of 1923 01:38:43.920 --> 01:38:47.319 incestuous night gallery connection with this guy is that Jack 1924 01:38:47.399 --> 01:38:50.359 Laird produced a pilot for a television series called The 1925 01:38:50.520 --> 01:38:54.159 Dark Intruder that ended up getting released theatrically just the 1926 01:38:54.199 --> 01:38:58.560 pilot got released. In that there's the villainous doctor Malachi 1927 01:38:58.640 --> 01:39:02.199 who's portrayed on screen I mean by Werner Klemperer and 1928 01:39:02.520 --> 01:39:08.199 voiced by Norman Lloyd. That's weird. Yeah. Sondra Locke, who 1929 01:39:08.439 --> 01:39:10.840 the year before had been nominated for an Academy Award, 1930 01:39:11.000 --> 01:39:13.600 actually sought out a role on Night Gallery because she 1931 01:39:13.680 --> 01:39:15.840 was such a fan of The Twilight Zone and Ron Serling. 1932 01:39:16.239 --> 01:39:18.159 So that's the first time I've heard of an actor 1933 01:39:18.199 --> 01:39:20.439 trying to get on the show that they didn't have 1934 01:39:20.560 --> 01:39:24.479 to go find other than that the performances are good somewhat. 1935 01:39:25.520 --> 01:39:29.600 Norman Lloyd is fantastically menacing. The brooch is creepy and 1936 01:39:29.680 --> 01:39:31.199 weird that he gives sort of the story is that 1937 01:39:31.319 --> 01:39:33.640 this suitor shows up and gives this girl who doesn't 1938 01:39:33.640 --> 01:39:35.760 really care about him, this brooch. It's a little rodent, 1939 01:39:35.880 --> 01:39:39.760 and then she spurns him, and then the brooch grows big. 1940 01:39:40.199 --> 01:39:43.840 Oh boy, there's a girl pig and it chews her 1941 01:39:43.920 --> 01:39:46.479 I guess a little bit, and then it returns to 1942 01:39:46.560 --> 01:39:49.239 its normal size. And this guy performs the same bit. 1943 01:39:49.279 --> 01:39:53.319 Again comically large. One might say, yeah, is. 1944 01:39:53.359 --> 01:39:55.960 The message here that everyone is terrible? Because everyone in 1945 01:39:56.039 --> 01:39:59.560 this episode is terrible. This guy's basically a rapist and 1946 01:40:00.079 --> 01:40:03.279 if you don't fuck him, then his magic brooch is 1947 01:40:03.359 --> 01:40:06.000 going to kill you, Right, that's what happens here. 1948 01:40:07.119 --> 01:40:09.600 But was he not like stealing their like beauty too? 1949 01:40:09.800 --> 01:40:11.800 Was that not a component to this or was that 1950 01:40:11.960 --> 01:40:15.640 me reading it that was to him just talking kooky talk, 1951 01:40:15.760 --> 01:40:17.199 But like, okay, because I thought there was like a 1952 01:40:17.279 --> 01:40:19.039 Tails from the Crypt thing, you know, you know what 1953 01:40:19.119 --> 01:40:21.319 I you know what I'm talking about bottom alone, where 1954 01:40:21.319 --> 01:40:23.680 it's like I made the bust of your face and 1955 01:40:23.800 --> 01:40:26.560 I stole your beauty, Like that's what I thought it was. 1956 01:40:26.640 --> 01:40:29.359 And then no, it's just this giant goofy ass broach 1957 01:40:30.439 --> 01:40:34.560 like goofy looking like it reminded me This episode segment 1958 01:40:34.600 --> 01:40:37.600 reminded me of the one with Jack Cassidy and the 1959 01:40:37.720 --> 01:40:41.079 giant spider. Oh yeah, it's like, oh, look at this 1960 01:40:41.239 --> 01:40:43.359 giant thing that we can't make look good, but we're 1961 01:40:43.439 --> 01:40:46.720 going with it anyways, Like God, come come on, this 1962 01:40:46.920 --> 01:40:49.079 is Kolchak fighting an invisible monster. 1963 01:40:49.279 --> 01:40:53.600 Levels of fucking wild like, guys, it's Gilly suited Brenda Man. 1964 01:40:56.000 --> 01:40:58.600 It's just such a that's not true. It's better than 1965 01:40:58.640 --> 01:41:01.319 Gilly suited Brenda Man because the design is cool and 1966 01:41:01.479 --> 01:41:03.840 even as goofy as it is that they just keeps 1967 01:41:03.840 --> 01:41:06.760 getting larger and they keep doing wide shots of her running. 1968 01:41:06.800 --> 01:41:09.720 What's wrong with you, Jano? Why shots of her running 1969 01:41:09.760 --> 01:41:12.439 with this giant like I don't know, like gummy bear, 1970 01:41:12.840 --> 01:41:14.359 that's all I could think. It looks like a giant 1971 01:41:14.439 --> 01:41:16.600 gummy bear, Like what do you have to see? 1972 01:41:16.640 --> 01:41:20.239 Or you could eat it? I think the worst thing 1973 01:41:20.279 --> 01:41:23.039 about this episode segment is that the painting is so good. 1974 01:41:24.000 --> 01:41:26.279 Oh well, I'm obviously a big fan of that painting. 1975 01:41:26.279 --> 01:41:29.199 I think it's me too. I'm a fan of that 1976 01:41:29.279 --> 01:41:31.960 painting as well. And like again, it like the last 1977 01:41:32.600 --> 01:41:34.960 I guess the first episode segment on this episode like 1978 01:41:35.079 --> 01:41:38.119 it makes a promise of something that is not followed 1979 01:41:38.159 --> 01:41:41.880 through a like it's I don't want I don't understand 1980 01:41:42.039 --> 01:41:43.960 what the point of this segment was other than like 1981 01:41:44.000 --> 01:41:45.560 you said, Father Molone, everybody's terrible. 1982 01:41:46.760 --> 01:41:49.520 How about you, Mike, what do you think of this one? Yeah? 1983 01:41:49.920 --> 01:41:50.840 I was impressed. 1984 01:41:51.119 --> 01:41:55.399 So this might be controversial, but I've never found Sondra 1985 01:41:55.479 --> 01:41:59.399 Lock to be that attractive, but in this I was like, oh, 1986 01:41:59.600 --> 01:42:01.359 I can kind of see it. I can kind of 1987 01:42:01.399 --> 01:42:04.359 see that she's attractive in this one. And then she 1988 01:42:04.479 --> 01:42:07.680 gets attacked by approach the end. 1989 01:42:09.800 --> 01:42:11.359 The blackout extravaganza. 1990 01:42:11.439 --> 01:42:15.079 This episode really it is it is and yeah, like 1991 01:42:15.279 --> 01:42:20.600 he he is this essentially a rapist, so I was like, okay, yeah, 1992 01:42:21.119 --> 01:42:23.720 I was waiting for him to get his comeupence at 1993 01:42:23.720 --> 01:42:27.800 the end, like somehow she survives and gifts it back 1994 01:42:27.840 --> 01:42:29.840 to him, but that's not the case. 1995 01:42:31.199 --> 01:42:36.079 Interesting optics for this episode segment are we are. 1996 01:42:37.520 --> 01:42:38.159 We two woke? 1997 01:42:39.399 --> 01:42:42.760 Sorry the woster needs to leave. Sorry? 1998 01:42:42.920 --> 01:42:46.640 Yeah, So what's with Sondra Lockin Rodents? She restricted that 1999 01:42:46.800 --> 01:42:49.319 rat boy she was in Willard, She's got killed by 2000 01:42:49.399 --> 01:42:53.239 a giant rodent. In this she loves Rodents. They had 2001 01:42:53.279 --> 01:42:56.239 some rare screen projection when they were driving. I loved it. 2002 01:42:56.279 --> 01:42:58.840 It looked great. And night for night again, how do 2003 01:42:58.880 --> 01:43:01.760 you like that? Twice in one episode? At the end, Okay, 2004 01:43:02.319 --> 01:43:04.439 I can this should have been a black out skitch. 2005 01:43:04.520 --> 01:43:06.640 It should have been just a girl breaking up with 2006 01:43:06.680 --> 01:43:08.159 a guy on the phone. He's like, did you get 2007 01:43:08.199 --> 01:43:10.000 that gift? I sent you, and she's like, I don't 2008 01:43:10.000 --> 01:43:11.560 want to see you. You're an idiot. I used you 2009 01:43:11.680 --> 01:43:13.199 for your money and blah blah blah, and then she 2010 01:43:13.239 --> 01:43:15.039 gets skilled that would have been that would have been okay. 2011 01:43:15.319 --> 01:43:18.359 At the end, we have these two bicyclists, these englishmen. 2012 01:43:19.279 --> 01:43:23.359 Their characters' names are Frankie and Jippo, and apparently the 2013 01:43:23.479 --> 01:43:27.479 characters were named for two characters and John Ford's the Informer. Oh, 2014 01:43:28.479 --> 01:43:31.439 that's totally inconsequentially as the characters are, because why are 2015 01:43:31.479 --> 01:43:33.359 they even there, Why are we spending any time with 2016 01:43:33.439 --> 01:43:34.159 them at all? 2017 01:43:35.199 --> 01:43:37.520 They can find a dead body, that's why. And then 2018 01:43:37.560 --> 01:43:38.880 the episode segment ends. 2019 01:43:39.399 --> 01:43:41.720 If only the camera could have done that for us. 2020 01:43:42.600 --> 01:43:45.359 Yeah, that is the funniest part of the segment is 2021 01:43:45.439 --> 01:43:48.640 that camera angle where it's like set on the ground 2022 01:43:48.920 --> 01:43:50.840 in front of her, pointed at them, but you can't 2023 01:43:50.840 --> 01:43:54.319 see anything, and they're just like whoa, whoa. Yeah, that's great, guys, 2024 01:43:54.760 --> 01:43:58.119 great reactions. We got it. We're done. Jano's Swark Janos 2025 01:43:58.119 --> 01:44:02.600 Schwark is not doing any favors for any of these 2026 01:44:02.680 --> 01:44:05.600 segments at all, Like, I don't think I've seen one 2027 01:44:05.680 --> 01:44:07.920 yet where I've been like Geno's work added something to this. 2028 01:44:08.520 --> 01:44:10.640 Most of the time, she know's work's name is tied 2029 01:44:10.680 --> 01:44:12.920 to the worst episode segments that we're watching. 2030 01:44:14.359 --> 01:44:17.359 Hey, hey, don't don't don't talk about Jenno that way. 2031 01:44:18.359 --> 01:44:21.000 I won't stab for it, even if I'm sinning. 2032 01:44:23.279 --> 01:44:29.119 I you know what, Jaws two is fine. This leaves 2033 01:44:29.159 --> 01:44:30.279 a lot to be designed. 2034 01:44:31.520 --> 01:44:32.279 It wasn't good. 2035 01:44:33.600 --> 01:44:37.239 It's a blackout sketch. I mean it just it's unfortunate 2036 01:44:37.399 --> 01:44:40.520 that we just keep getting extended blackout sketches. Because this 2037 01:44:40.720 --> 01:44:43.680 show is good when it is good, when they're putting 2038 01:44:43.760 --> 01:44:47.720 effort in, that is the problem. It's just like Tails 2039 01:44:47.720 --> 01:44:50.399 from the Crypt. It's just like Twilight's on nineteen eighty five. 2040 01:44:50.720 --> 01:44:53.239 When it's good and the people who are doing the 2041 01:44:53.319 --> 01:44:55.960 work are doing the work, well, it's really good and 2042 01:44:56.039 --> 01:44:59.560 there's nothing better anthology wise. When it's bad, it's like 2043 01:44:59.680 --> 01:45:02.079 every what he collectively lost their fucking minds. 2044 01:45:03.960 --> 01:45:07.039 The problem here is that Ron Starling's way was wrong 2045 01:45:07.199 --> 01:45:09.560 and Jack Laired's way is wrong. There was somewhere in 2046 01:45:09.720 --> 01:45:12.960 between it had they mediated and worked it out, where 2047 01:45:13.000 --> 01:45:16.159 this show could have been the best anthology horror anthology 2048 01:45:16.239 --> 01:45:20.479 of all time. Right, Because if rod Serling was writing 2049 01:45:20.520 --> 01:45:23.079 blackout sketches. That could be something he could get his 2050 01:45:23.159 --> 01:45:26.800 little bitter, ironic thing out in a couple of minutes. 2051 01:45:26.920 --> 01:45:29.479 As opposed to they should have just assigned him all 2052 01:45:29.600 --> 01:45:32.119 the twelve minute segments for this entire thing. It would 2053 01:45:32.119 --> 01:45:34.760 have been great, would have forced him to be concise 2054 01:45:34.840 --> 01:45:35.319 as a writer. 2055 01:45:36.359 --> 01:45:38.600 If he's not willing to do the introductions for the 2056 01:45:38.680 --> 01:45:41.560 blackout sketches, he ain't willing to fucking write them, right, 2057 01:45:42.439 --> 01:45:45.079 So probably it's beneath me. 2058 01:45:45.560 --> 01:45:47.560 I'm not saying. I'm not saying he should have been 2059 01:45:47.600 --> 01:45:50.680 assigned them necessarily. I'm just saying, had they worked it out, 2060 01:45:50.800 --> 01:45:53.279 then this show, I agree, phenomenal. 2061 01:45:54.920 --> 01:45:57.800 Yeah, I mean a twilight zone for the seventies, Like 2062 01:45:58.039 --> 01:46:01.680 that's what the promise of this show is and could 2063 01:46:01.680 --> 01:46:05.520 have grown into that, right, and when it satisfies that, 2064 01:46:05.720 --> 01:46:09.319 it really satisfies it. But it's few and far between 2065 01:46:09.640 --> 01:46:13.319 in this second season. But again, like there's you know 2066 01:46:13.439 --> 01:46:16.399 what though, Like in reality, if you take a step back, 2067 01:46:17.039 --> 01:46:20.000 every episode has multiple segments. So we're talking about by 2068 01:46:20.000 --> 01:46:22.720 the end of the show, how many segments like almost 2069 01:46:22.800 --> 01:46:26.000 one hundred oh yeah, love of averages would to note 2070 01:46:26.319 --> 01:46:29.560 fifty percent or good fifty percent or bad, and I 2071 01:46:29.640 --> 01:46:31.159 think we're still right there. 2072 01:46:32.399 --> 01:46:35.680 There hasn't been a precipitous drop off. It's definitely better 2073 01:46:35.760 --> 01:46:36.600 than the first season. 2074 01:46:36.880 --> 01:46:42.640 So yeah, yeah, yeah, I agree. 2075 01:46:43.960 --> 01:46:47.359 It has ups and downs, but once you've got past 2076 01:46:47.439 --> 01:46:49.239 the pilot of the first season, it was a love 2077 01:46:49.239 --> 01:46:51.960 of diminishing returns. There were little pleasures to be had 2078 01:46:52.039 --> 01:46:54.960 here and there, but certainly not like this season. 2079 01:46:55.159 --> 01:46:58.199 So well, and I mean again, when this season opens 2080 01:46:58.239 --> 01:47:01.680 with the banger of bangers, the boy who predicted earthquakes, 2081 01:47:01.760 --> 01:47:03.840 I mean again like that, it might be the best 2082 01:47:03.880 --> 01:47:05.079 segment on this entire show. 2083 01:47:05.119 --> 01:47:08.199 And it opens the second season. Yeah, hard to measure 2084 01:47:08.319 --> 01:47:10.840 up to. But at the same time, like, at least it. 2085 01:47:10.960 --> 01:47:13.239 Wasn't the first episode of the first season like Twice 2086 01:47:13.359 --> 01:47:14.239 or Tails from the Crypt. 2087 01:47:14.520 --> 01:47:18.319 Yeah, I'll take an episode like this, one of basically 2088 01:47:18.399 --> 01:47:22.439 extended blackout sketches over one segment of their tearing down 2089 01:47:22.520 --> 01:47:23.279 Tim Riley's bar. 2090 01:47:23.479 --> 01:47:27.640 So thank you there is You know, we should start 2091 01:47:27.720 --> 01:47:29.399 like a you know how they have like a job site. 2092 01:47:29.439 --> 01:47:32.520 It's like one day without disaster. This should be one 2093 01:47:32.560 --> 01:47:35.039 episode without for he's a golf. 2094 01:47:35.560 --> 01:47:38.560 Right, wait, all our reviews would be glowing from here 2095 01:47:38.640 --> 01:47:44.000 on it, and remember Jence, this was not tearing down 2096 01:47:44.079 --> 01:48:16.319 Tim Riley's bars. 2097 01:48:23.800 --> 01:48:37.880 Sass s S s 2098 01:48:41.199 --> 01:48:41.239 S