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<v Speaker 1>Hello, everybody, Welcome to Summer House with Sam. I'm your host, Sam,

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<v Speaker 1>I y Ella, and today I'm very blessed to be

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<v Speaker 1>at one of my favorite places in the entire world,

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<v Speaker 1>Mousetrap Fitness, the home of CrossFit Mousetrap. And not only

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<v Speaker 1>am I here at this location recording the very first

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<v Speaker 1>episode of Summerhouse with Sam, but I am joined by

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<v Speaker 1>one of the owners of Mousetrap Fitness, the home a

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<v Speaker 1>CrossFit Mousetrap, mister Allen Thompson. Hello, sir, doing very well,

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much, and thank you for joining me

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<v Speaker 1>here today.

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<v Speaker 2>My pleasure, and this is legit setup.

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<v Speaker 1>You literally owned the studio that we're currently and now,

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<v Speaker 1>oh I do want to make sure I mentioned you

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<v Speaker 1>are co owner, yes, of Mousetrap Fitness, the home across

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<v Speaker 1>at Mousetrap, along with your amazing wife. Again, I want

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<v Speaker 1>to thank you for joining me here today because Mousetrap,

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<v Speaker 1>as you well know, means so much to me personally,

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<v Speaker 1>as it does to so many other people as well. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I have been a member and a coach here since

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<v Speaker 1>the early early days of twenty sixteen. Okay, so now

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<v Speaker 1>it's been well over a decade It's absolutely changed my life,

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<v Speaker 1>and I want to just personally, we've got an opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>to thank both you and Katie for that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, thank you for being a great coach.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm happy to do it, happy to do it now.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the things that I do want to touch

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<v Speaker 1>on before we get into the serious, serious questions guys,

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<v Speaker 1>is that you and I, I feel are similar in

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<v Speaker 1>many ways.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of ways. Yeah, I agree, And.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you know this or not, but

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<v Speaker 1>you seem to be a quiet person.

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<v Speaker 3>Would you describe yourself as such?

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<v Speaker 2>Depends Yes, I can understand why you're saying that, but

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<v Speaker 2>I think it depends on the topic the moment. I

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<v Speaker 2>can go on my rants from time to time. I

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<v Speaker 2>think I have a lot of opinions and thoughts that

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<v Speaker 2>are you know, I say, unpopular or not in alignment

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<v Speaker 2>with you know, typical societal norms, and I'm just trying

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<v Speaker 2>to be you know, cognizant of that and respect people's

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<v Speaker 2>time and effort and energy and all that kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely. Now, when you say typical of societal norms, are

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<v Speaker 1>there any specific things you're referring to.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, one example that comes to mind when my

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<v Speaker 2>wife and I first met and we started talking about

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<v Speaker 2>gift giving. I just went on this whole sort of

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<v Speaker 2>tirade about I don't you know holidays and how they

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<v Speaker 2>become corporate sponsored events and you know, Christmas now, Christmas

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<v Speaker 2>shopping is now authorised between August and December and all

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<v Speaker 2>the things. And so we ended up setting a gift

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<v Speaker 2>giving budget. Was this early on, like early on in

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<v Speaker 2>our relationship, because the premise is basically, you don't have

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<v Speaker 2>to wait for the holiday to forget the thing. True,

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<v Speaker 2>They're just going to charge you more on February fourteenth, right,

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<v Speaker 2>we can go get it on February.

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<v Speaker 1>Twelves, on February fifteenth.

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<v Speaker 2>The best time to buy Halloween candy is the day

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<v Speaker 2>out November first, rant and raving about that. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I've kind of keeping myself or Katie, here's it, but

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<v Speaker 2>that's like, that's probably typical.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know that makes me smile. And the reason

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<v Speaker 1>why is because that is a very, if I may,

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<v Speaker 1>a very gen x thing. It's thinking about how corporate

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<v Speaker 1>American corporate greed have taken over holidays, things that were

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to just be so fundamental, not necessarily basic, but

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<v Speaker 1>just based on other things.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you do you I don't know if you had

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<v Speaker 2>a similar experience. When I was a kid, my first

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<v Speaker 2>job was at movie theater and I remember that they

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<v Speaker 2>were looking for people to work on like half a

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<v Speaker 2>day on Christmas, and my mom was like apocalyptic. She

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<v Speaker 2>was like, you are not working on Christmas. It's it's

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<v Speaker 2>a special day. They can go get somebody else. And

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, I'm I was like okay. But because

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<v Speaker 2>then back then most things were closed of course Christmas Day.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course you look today, nothing's closed, Like everything's open.

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<v Speaker 2>And just this transition from like Christmas used to be

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<v Speaker 2>this thing where we recognized the holiday and it was

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<v Speaker 2>almost the exception to be open.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, yeah, people were shocked if something was open on Christmas.

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<v Speaker 1>I get the maybe first half of Thanksgiving because everybody

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<v Speaker 1>needs to run to the store for that one or

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<v Speaker 1>two things they forgot they thought they had. And to

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<v Speaker 1>that point, there were many, many years, especially being here

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<v Speaker 1>in Orlando, being part of the hospitality industry, the parking

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<v Speaker 1>industry specifically, where it's like, okay, you're working Christmas, And

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<v Speaker 1>for the longest time actually as an adult working in

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<v Speaker 1>that industry, my wife and I just accepted it as

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<v Speaker 1>part of you know, it is the way it is

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<v Speaker 1>living here Orlando. Of course, living here, working where we do.

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<v Speaker 1>I could have gone and got a different job somewhere

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<v Speaker 1>that wasn't open on Christmas, but I didn't. Now it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't until much later, not very long ago. Actually that

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<v Speaker 1>post CrossFit. To be honest with you, that I said,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not working Christmas Day any longer. And it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>so much because of or for me, or even for

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<v Speaker 1>my wife, but it was more for other people that

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<v Speaker 1>it who found it very important for us to be

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<v Speaker 1>present on that day. Yeah, that makes sense, you know

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<v Speaker 1>again going back to where gifts don't necessarily need to

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<v Speaker 1>happen on major holidays, same thing. We can visit any time,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's a little more special to people, sure, on

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<v Speaker 1>those days. And if it means giving a little more

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<v Speaker 1>of myself, then so be it. I'm a very selfish person,

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<v Speaker 1>like a very very selfish person. But again, I do

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<v Speaker 1>like making other people happiest me, so I want to

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<v Speaker 1>make sure we do that now.

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<v Speaker 3>Gen X, yes or no?

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<v Speaker 1>You are to me a younger on the young side

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<v Speaker 1>of Generation X, would you agree? Or I definitely fall

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<v Speaker 1>into Gen X just based it's like a horoscope thing.

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<v Speaker 1>You read your horoscope and you're like, well, that could

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<v Speaker 1>you know, be for anyone, But it's entertaining gen X.

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<v Speaker 1>I think many people have a lot of characteristics. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't trust the government or big business. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we're very focused on making sure that we're big impaths.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we're making sure that other people have what

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<v Speaker 1>they need, that sort of thing. But again, that could

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<v Speaker 1>be anyone of any age. Technically, it just seems to

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<v Speaker 1>land a little bit more for us. Now there's a

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<v Speaker 1>specific reason I brought that up. That's why I have

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<v Speaker 1>written note gen X and again similarities between us. People

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<v Speaker 1>find you to be a quiet person. I did as well.

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<v Speaker 1>How long have you and Katie owned Mousetrap Fitness twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty shout out to Lex Olsen coach Lex, thank you again.

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<v Speaker 1>Without an introduction between you guys, this may not be

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<v Speaker 1>happening right now. So we're grateful there and maybe we'll

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<v Speaker 1>save that story for a little bit later. But in addition,

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<v Speaker 1>like so that's twenty twenty two, we're halfway through twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty six now, so over four years now. Initially in

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<v Speaker 1>meeting you, it was more of kind of a passing thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Though I wasn't coaching.

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<v Speaker 1>I was I was still a member and hit or

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<v Speaker 1>miss attending classes that.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you would fill in from time to time.

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<v Speaker 1>So in meeting you, you seem like a very quiet person. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I like to challenge myself in being able to have

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<v Speaker 1>a conversation with people, and I wish I would remember

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<v Speaker 1>our very first conversation because it had to be something

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<v Speaker 1>very surface level.

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<v Speaker 2>I imagine it was probably our wives that made us

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<v Speaker 2>talk to each other or something. You know, like you

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<v Speaker 2>get to a certain age and you're married, and like

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<v Speaker 2>the wives start dictating like relationship building, and like well,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just like, like my wife will say, Hi, this

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<v Speaker 2>is so and so they're they're the appropriate age and

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<v Speaker 2>appropriate minds. She's vetted them right, right, right. She thinks

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<v Speaker 2>this person might be yeah, you have their sealing approval,

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<v Speaker 2>you may continue, right, And then so I'll be like, oh, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>Katie said this is okay for this person to talk to.

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<v Speaker 2>So my guess is that's probably how it may because

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not. I'm not an outgoing person by nature. So

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure she's like Alan, this is Sam, and this

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<v Speaker 2>is Cindy, and there about our age.

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<v Speaker 1>For the rect of you guys, are I would say

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<v Speaker 1>significantly younger, but thank you for that.

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<v Speaker 3>Anything more than a year to me is significantly younger.

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<v Speaker 1>No, And you know what, that's a good vetting process

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<v Speaker 1>because I base a lot of things off vibe. But

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<v Speaker 1>it seems cool, you know. Again, that is the extent

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<v Speaker 1>of my analysis, you know. But in having conversations with you,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know at what point, And because even though

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<v Speaker 1>I approach people, even though I talk a lot to

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<v Speaker 1>the detriment of others, sometimes yeah, I am still guarded. Sure,

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<v Speaker 1>and whatever information I you know, convey or share again

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<v Speaker 1>gen x, you know, But like at some point it

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<v Speaker 1>must have been and I really think it was some

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<v Speaker 1>sort of pop culture conversation probably, you know. And one

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<v Speaker 1>thing I absolutely remember talking to you about was the

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<v Speaker 1>A Team. I'm talking about the original show from the eighties,

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<v Speaker 1>the A Team, And then at some point we talked

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<v Speaker 1>about Voltron. Now, if you're listening to this and you're like,

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<v Speaker 1>how did I end up either with this as a

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<v Speaker 1>YouTube recommendation or a recommendation for this podcast? Congratulations, you

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<v Speaker 1>are of a certain age, okay, you know the A

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<v Speaker 1>Team was early eighties Voltron was definitely early eighties. It

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<v Speaker 1>was an animated show. There were two versions, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to ask him this question. Now, there were two versions.

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<v Speaker 1>There was the lions and then there were the vehicles. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>do you have a preference lions? Same? Same? Nice? Nice

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<v Speaker 1>that makes you feel better? Man?

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<v Speaker 2>Did you see the remake they put on Netflix?

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<v Speaker 3>I saw that, I know of it.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't watch.

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<v Speaker 2>You should watch?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you recommend highly? Folks? You hear that Netflix Voltron

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<v Speaker 2>A couple of years old now, but it was it

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<v Speaker 2>was pretty good.

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<v Speaker 3>I love to hear it because that way I don't

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<v Speaker 3>have to wait a week.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember, yeah, I could crank them all out in a

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<v Speaker 1>weekend if I try hard enough. No. So at that

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<v Speaker 1>point that actually, you know, for anybody to listen, that

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<v Speaker 1>us getting to know each other, you know, and then

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<v Speaker 1>from there we've had some pretty good conversation deep And

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<v Speaker 1>I do want you to know I appreciate everyone because

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<v Speaker 1>I would think that, you know, as large a community

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<v Speaker 1>as Mousetrap Fitness has, you know, I know, sometimes we

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<v Speaker 1>tend to click up a little bit, you know, Oh

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<v Speaker 1>that's so and so spot or that's who so and

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<v Speaker 1>so hangs out with you know, or oh, aren't they

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<v Speaker 1>friends or aren't they dating?

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<v Speaker 3>Or whatever the case may be.

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<v Speaker 1>So, I know not everyone has had the privilege of

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<v Speaker 1>the conversations that we have. Far beyond the A team

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<v Speaker 1>and Voltron. You know, there have been some really like

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<v Speaker 1>impactful conversations. You know, people may be wondering, like, who

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<v Speaker 1>is this allan guy? Okay, he co owns mousetrap with

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<v Speaker 1>his wife Katie, which is wonderful. It makes a big

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<v Speaker 2>Right, No? No, I grew up in Saint Louis.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, and how old were you when you were called

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<v Speaker 2>Seventeen years old. I got on a plane to West Point,

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it is two stop lights. And I always have

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<v Speaker 1>to preface it by saying, you know, I am grateful

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<v Speaker 1>and appreciative having been raised there. Yep, I do not.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't go back to visit. I still have family

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<v Speaker 1>But it's just in my opinion. You know, that was

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<v Speaker 1>I have moved on from that chapter. So again, I

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<v Speaker 2>So there's no real reason to go back for me.

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<v Speaker 2>The family kind of went our separate ways. Uh huh.

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<v Speaker 2>She went off and did that thing. The cousin that

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<v Speaker 2>of just dispersed.

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<v Speaker 1>And you mentioned west Point, New York. Yes, now, let

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<v Speaker 1>me ask you this, what is in west Point, New.

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<v Speaker 2>Got the United States Military Academy at west Point is

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<v Speaker 2>at west Point.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's where you went to school.

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<v Speaker 2>That's where Yeah, that's where I went to school.

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<v Speaker 1>That's amazing and that is beyond a flex. Okay, is

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<v Speaker 1>it absolutely for someone who has only heard of west

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<v Speaker 1>Point in pop culture or you know, is that like, oh, absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>that is to be like, yeah, I went to west Point.

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<v Speaker 1>But the fact that you don't use it as such

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four to seven I'd work out in it.

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<v Speaker 3>I'd wear it to church.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even go to church, but I would wear

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<v Speaker 1>it there just so people be like, well, he served

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<v Speaker 1>at like the most amazing frigging military academy that there is.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry Navy, and sorry, I'm just saying it's pretty impressive.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>I never and that's again, very big of you, man,

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<v Speaker 3>if you don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I just think it was like the expectation for us

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<v Speaker 2>so many of us go to the military. So my

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<v Speaker 1>He was like a year in Annapolis.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, and he got so many you know, kudos

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<v Speaker 2>and this, that and the other. Thing about it was like, well,

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<v Speaker 3>If he did it, you can do it, right.

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<v Speaker 2>That was sort of the thing that was going on. So,

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<v Speaker 2>but I don't know, it was always an expectation for

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<v Speaker 2>us to do well, do well in school, and go

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<v Speaker 2>if not go to one of the academies, go to

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<v Speaker 2>RTC or something to do well.

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<v Speaker 1>So well, let me ask you this. Do you know

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<v Speaker 1>the acceptance rate for West Point?

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't even tell you.

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<v Speaker 1>It's got to be it's got to be like very limited,

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<v Speaker 1>very small, you know. No, So again that's amazing and

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<v Speaker 1>again and a flex you know, whether you think so

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<v Speaker 1>or not. Yeah, I'm telling you I'd wear I'd be

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<v Speaker 1>gifting people. Hey, a guy who gave you this shirt

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<v Speaker 1>went to West Point, you know, like the whole deal.

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<v Speaker 1>Like absolutely, so kudos again.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>And not only are you an entrepreneur, right, not only

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<v Speaker 1>are you co owner here at Mousetrap Fitness Home a

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<v Speaker 1>crust mouse Rap, but you're all you also have another

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<v Speaker 1>Google correctly. It has you as the chief operating officer.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, that's correct. Yep. For rip it Sports, Yep, that's correct.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you tell me a little bit of about rip

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<v Speaker 1>it So, by the way, is not sponsoring this podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm just throwing it out there.

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<v Speaker 2>Rip it is a sporting goods company that sells products

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<v Speaker 2>for specifically female athletes and female athletes only. So we

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<v Speaker 2>are in softball, volleyball, tested some things in soccer, but

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<v Speaker 2>We own the tax A car volleyball brand, the Ringer

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<v Speaker 2>softball cleat brand, and then you have the RiPP It brand.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, where you can find us at Dick Sporting Goods.

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<v Speaker 1>And don't be afraid to throw commercial out there. It

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<v Speaker 1>didn't bother me one bit. Yeah, he if you sell

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<v Speaker 1>one set of cleats, I'm taking that as a win.

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<v Speaker 3>No, that's amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>And again from Sting, ended up ended up at West

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<v Speaker 1>Point right. You went to school there.

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<v Speaker 2>Spent some time in the army, so I did five

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<v Speaker 2>minutes five years active duty, did a couple of years

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<v Speaker 2>the reserves and deploying two Iraq for a year. Technically,

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<v Speaker 2>diployment was a little bit longer than the year because

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<v Speaker 2>kind of stuff. So overall eight years service and yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>in the military.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I'm just smiling because I okay, so veteran, let's

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<v Speaker 1>throw that on there too. I didn't even think about it.

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<v Speaker 1>You went to the military academy, obviously served, you were deployed,

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<v Speaker 1>so you're a veteran again.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you for your service, absolutely.

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<v Speaker 1>And you did all of these things, then you end

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<v Speaker 1>up in Orlando.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this is.

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<v Speaker 1>Again, this is one of those things.

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<v Speaker 3>This is one of those things.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is when you're you're hearing a story and

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<v Speaker 1>then there was a jump and then here we are. Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>After I got out of the military, I kind of

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't quite know work wise, job kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I didn't quite know what to do with myself.

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<v Speaker 2>So I just made some random goal about making as

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<v Speaker 2>just try and make six figures as quickly as I can.

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<v Speaker 2>So that meant get a special skill and then change

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<v Speaker 2>companies every eighteen months or two years.

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<v Speaker 1>So you needed your thought process was developed one specific

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<v Speaker 1>special skill and then utilize that to allow you to

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<v Speaker 1>jump around to different business or like to work for

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<v Speaker 1>a different companies. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that was a prevailing sort of career strategy

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<v Speaker 2>at the time, like get really good at one thing

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<v Speaker 2>and then levers at one thing from company to company.

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<v Speaker 1>And so people have a general idea about what year,

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<v Speaker 1>what timeframe.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So yeah, so I ended up had I had

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<v Speaker 2>a sort of a mindset. I think the military helped

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<v Speaker 2>process improvement stuff, and I took a couple of because

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<v Speaker 2>they said, hey, you should do this full time. I

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<v Speaker 2>eighty thousand or ninety thousand. I was like, that's closer

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<v Speaker 2>Remember, I ended up buying a six Sigma for Dummies

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<v Speaker 2>book and my two little projects that I've worked, and

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<v Speaker 2>flew up to corporate office in Seattle for an interview

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<v Speaker 2>and nailed it. And it happened to be interviewing with

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<v Speaker 1>No way.

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<v Speaker 2>To do so they said, yeah, you're good. So now

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<v Speaker 2>I just spent the bulk of my career was centered

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<v Speaker 3>So that so and again you'll have to forgive me.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so six sigma, can you tell us what is

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<v Speaker 1>six sigma.

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<v Speaker 3>So what is six sigma?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so basically it's a level of quality that is

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<v Speaker 2>very difficult to get to, but you're trying to achieve, right,

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<v Speaker 2>So the technical definitions three point one four approximately three

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<v Speaker 2>point one four defects per million opportunity. So if there's

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<v Speaker 2>million opportunities. It is very expensive to get to that

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<v Speaker 2>level of quality, so you typically only see it in

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<v Speaker 2>like low corporate medical devices or whatever. But it's just

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<v Speaker 2>a methodology that provides a framework on how to achieve

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, and the company that you were hired into without

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<v Speaker 1>naming the company itself, what what did they do? What

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<v Speaker 1>did they manufacture?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? They were they were a manufacturing company. Was a

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<v Speaker 2>company called at the time, a company called pack are

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<v Speaker 2>They ordered They owned a company called Peter Built, which

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<v Speaker 2>making eighteen wheelers, but they were just looking for someone

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<v Speaker 2>who could, you know, manage a team, which I could

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<v Speaker 2>certainly do. So, Yeah, so I just got really smart

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<v Speaker 2>and six sigma and process improvement and a bunch of tools.

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<v Speaker 1>Had you ever admitted prior to this conversation that you

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<v Speaker 1>To know that, right, but it just let I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>opportunities out there if you're willing to make it for yourself. Absolutely. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and that is one like exactly what you just described.

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<v Speaker 2>I can remember thinking I'm not qualified for this job.

428
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<v Speaker 2>But again, my focus was singular on you know, how

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<v Speaker 2>do I get to that six figure number, because at

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<v Speaker 2>the time it was like this magical you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, a trillion? Right, Yeah, I understand that too. I

432
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<v Speaker 1>absolutely understand that too. So you worked for them, you

433
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<v Speaker 1>stayed there or did you do what you'd had in mind,

434
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<v Speaker 1>which was jumping from one opportunity to another every couple

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<v Speaker 1>few years.

436
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<v Speaker 2>I ended up working for them for about in that

437
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<v Speaker 2>role for eighteen months or so, and then I went

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<v Speaker 2>to a different company in a different state, similar role,

439
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<v Speaker 2>but just higher pay. Company called from Micah Countertop. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't realize that was an actual brand yeah. Yeah, yeah,

441
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<v Speaker 1>well like Kleenex, right, yeah, yeah, I had no idea,

442
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<v Speaker 1>and then I just thought it was the you know

443
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<v Speaker 1>that stuff that.

444
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<v Speaker 2>Count of top stuff now and it's the actual company.

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<v Speaker 1>I was father in laws freaking out as he's listening

446
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<v Speaker 1>to this because he is like in construction, so he's

447
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<v Speaker 1>probably rolling his eyes right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Sorry, Phil, all right.

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<v Speaker 2>I was only I was only there for a few

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<v Speaker 2>months because I was a part of a reserve unit

451
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<v Speaker 2>that got activated. So now I'm going to Iraq, which

452
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<v Speaker 2>was you know, interesting in the whole story in itself.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, yeah, but so while I'm deployed.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry, man, I just think it's fascinating. Yeah, so then

455
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<v Speaker 1>I had to go to war. I'll be back.

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<v Speaker 3>It's amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>Meanwhile, I'm just twiddling my thumbs hanging out, you know

458
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<v Speaker 1>that kind of stuff. But it's impressive because I know

459
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<v Speaker 1>it helps develop who you are as a person. Sure,

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<v Speaker 1>so you had you got deployed.

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<v Speaker 2>Got deployed, and I make it. I guess I'm pretty

462
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<v Speaker 2>blase about it. It was a while ago at the time. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I can remember sitting on a cot in Kuwait right

464
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<v Speaker 2>before we're supposed to, you know, cross the border on

465
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<v Speaker 2>the helicopters, and I'm like, you know, you know, let's go,

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<v Speaker 2>no go. This is really when you yeah, when you

467
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<v Speaker 2>cross the border, it's gonna be people shooting at you.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, so it got it got real, real,

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<v Speaker 2>real real. But you know, we you know, got out

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<v Speaker 2>of helicopters, We landed in and we did our job.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone went over that, came back and came home. So

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<v Speaker 2>by all counts, it was a successful deployment. But so

473
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<v Speaker 2>while I'm deployed, you know, came up on that time,

474
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<v Speaker 2>what do I want to do next with my career?

475
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<v Speaker 2>You start seeing all these opportunities while you're over there, contractors,

476
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<v Speaker 2>d O D, government jobs, et cetera. So I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I could take this six sigma thing and

478
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<v Speaker 2>leverage it with the Department Defense potentially started looking at jobs,

479
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<v Speaker 2>and it turns out that the Pentagon was looking for

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<v Speaker 2>a six sigma certified people to come in and do

481
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<v Speaker 2>the same type of work. You know, I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if people know this Department of Defense, among other things,

483
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<v Speaker 2>it's a it's a business. So they buy, they sell,

484
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<v Speaker 2>they move, equipment, all the things. So ended up going

485
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<v Speaker 2>and working for the Department Defense for a while doing

486
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<v Speaker 2>a six sigma thing. And I finally achieved my figures

487
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<v Speaker 2>at twenty eight eight at twenty eight, So then that's

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<v Speaker 2>to be applauded.

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<v Speaker 1>That's great because this is fascinating to me, Like what

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<v Speaker 1>keeps pushing you? I know you had the goal of

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<v Speaker 1>six figures? But was that like a driving force the

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<v Speaker 1>entire time up to that point? Up till twenty eight.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we had been I grew up pretty you know

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<v Speaker 2>poor in some cases. I knew, like we shopped at

495
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<v Speaker 2>Payless and all that stuff, and we didn't have Nikes.

496
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<v Speaker 2>We had psych Psyche's or they.

497
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<v Speaker 1>Had the most amazing pair of black plastic shoes with

498
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<v Speaker 1>a little silver metal tip. I got it Payless, Okay, amazing. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm right there with you man and so sch shoes, yes.

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<v Speaker 2>And I just I didn't want to be in that,

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<v Speaker 2>you know position again, you know what I mean. So

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<v Speaker 2>it was just like, how do I, you know, make

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<v Speaker 2>as much money as I can? You know, I did

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<v Speaker 2>not understand how I needed to. I didn't know how

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<v Speaker 2>to keep that money.

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<v Speaker 1>But nobody ever talked about keeping it, right, that was

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<v Speaker 1>the whole goal up to that point.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, right, So looking back on it, like that was

509
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<v Speaker 2>I think the first I have a little fallacy. I

510
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<v Speaker 2>don't know if you've ever heard that arrival fallacy. It's

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<v Speaker 2>this idea that once you you set a goal, you

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<v Speaker 2>achieved the goal, but you're not happy. You suddenly looking

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<v Speaker 2>around going okay, like, now what do I do?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Well, it's funny that you say that, because I

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<v Speaker 1>call that now what?

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<v Speaker 3>Now what?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, you made it, so now what? And people, I

518
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<v Speaker 1>think need to plan for that moment. Yes, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>okay what happens when you get there? A lot of

520
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<v Speaker 1>people are like, well, onto the next thing, enjoy the moment,

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<v Speaker 1>celebrate it, then move on to the next thing. Yourself

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<v Speaker 1>a time frame it, don't don't give yourself a ten

523
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<v Speaker 1>year time frame to enjoy it.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a slightly different theory.

525
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<v Speaker 1>Let me hear it.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to begin to enjoy the process.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay. I like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the joy part of it up to that.

529
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<v Speaker 2>The joy is in the work, the j always in

530
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<v Speaker 2>the doing, not the achieving, because you may may not

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<v Speaker 2>ever achieve the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I like that.

533
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<v Speaker 2>I like that, and that's what I love about CrossFit.

534
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<v Speaker 2>It's like it doesn't really matter where I'm at on

535
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<v Speaker 2>the leader board, if I make some of my quarter

536
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<v Speaker 2>finals or whatever, I get joy out of just the

537
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<v Speaker 2>doing the running. Like I might set a goal, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's not like you know, I think I talked about

539
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<v Speaker 2>this on one of our podcast episodes about missing a goal.

540
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<v Speaker 2>It's more about I got up, I said I was

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<v Speaker 2>going to do the thing. I did the thing, and

542
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<v Speaker 2>I enjoyed doing the thing regardless of what happens though,

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<v Speaker 2>as far as the outcome goes well.

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<v Speaker 1>And I apologize for not mentioning this sooner. Yes, mention

545
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<v Speaker 1>your podcast.

546
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<v Speaker 2>Oh, my wife and I have a podcast called Cheese

547
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<v Speaker 2>Curds and Coffee.

548
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<v Speaker 3>Cheese Kurts and Coffee.

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<v Speaker 1>Guys, go subscribe right now, YouTube and wherever your audio

550
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<v Speaker 1>podcasts are available, all right, make sure it happens. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And to me, that's also fascinating because and I'll jump

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<v Speaker 1>back into the other part too, but it's fascinating because

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<v Speaker 1>most people don't realize or haven't had a very long,

554
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<v Speaker 1>in depth conversation with you, Yeah, so that they may

555
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<v Speaker 1>be surprised when you are willing to talk so much

556
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<v Speaker 1>and so frequently. Let me just ask you this and

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<v Speaker 1>then we'll move on on this specific thing. Is is

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<v Speaker 1>it that are you waiting for people to approach you,

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<v Speaker 1>to initiate a conversation, or do you just not talk

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<v Speaker 1>to people?

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<v Speaker 3>And that's a fair question, I think.

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<v Speaker 2>So when I'm in the when I'm in the gym,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm usually doing something.

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<v Speaker 1>And for the record, if you're not watching right now,

565
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<v Speaker 1>Alan Thompson is jacked, Okay, let me just say that too.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what, bro, I wouldn't even wear the West

567
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<v Speaker 1>Point shirt because I'd be walking around with no shirt

568
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<v Speaker 1>on all the time. Like I'd be going to the

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<v Speaker 1>grocery store. I say, you need a shirt one?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Get it, and people are like, I'm not gonna go

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<v Speaker 1>over there.

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<v Speaker 3>He's in the middle of a set.

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<v Speaker 1>He's doing this thing.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just that guy who's like, what whatever.

577
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<v Speaker 2>I'm listening to an audiobook more I trying to solve

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<v Speaker 2>a question that I have in my mind, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>between sets. So it's like my workout time is like

580
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<v Speaker 2>working out and I'm swimming up the river stream trying

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<v Speaker 2>to figure something out. So I try to It's not

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<v Speaker 2>that I don't approach people, It's just that I'm consumed selfishly,

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<v Speaker 2>yeah about what you know, things like that, going.

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<v Speaker 1>And you're allowed, you know it, it's your time, right,

585
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<v Speaker 1>and going back into enjoying the process. You know, we

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<v Speaker 1>have both known a lot of people who have taken

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<v Speaker 1>up running, maybe as an accessory to CrossFit overall and

588
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<v Speaker 1>getting a CrossFit or to run. You know how difficult

589
00:27:24.680 --> 00:27:26.799
<v Speaker 1>challenging that can be, right course of course, of course,

590
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<v Speaker 1>But every once in a while it'll go in waves

591
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<v Speaker 1>and you'll see people like I'm gonna do this half marathon,

592
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<v Speaker 1>or I'm going to sign up for this marathon or

593
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<v Speaker 1>Dopey Challenge and all this kind of stuff. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think people, again, they just want to have other people

595
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<v Speaker 1>suffering together in a positive way. I'm gonna sign up too,

596
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<v Speaker 1>so they'll continue to do that. But I like to

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<v Speaker 1>let folks know, hey, enjoy everything up to the race itself.

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<v Speaker 1>But the race is the celebration for all the hard

599
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<v Speaker 1>work that you put in, so enjoy it along the way,

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<v Speaker 1>the good days, the bad days, the days you're like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm never doing that again, or the days that you

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<v Speaker 1>just ran your peace are. I think it's very important

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<v Speaker 1>to just appreciate and value that before you get to

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<v Speaker 1>your finish line.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, you mentioned just a bit ago that you listen

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<v Speaker 1>to audio books.

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<v Speaker 2>I do obsessively.

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<v Speaker 1>And how many audiobooks would you say you've listened to?

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<v Speaker 2>I think my I think my audio library is up

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<v Speaker 2>to two hundred.

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<v Speaker 1>That's amazing, that's amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not laughing at you because it's just amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, two hundred and eighty.

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<v Speaker 3>Again, I put that on the back of the shirt.

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<v Speaker 3>There's gonna be all. It's gonna be like NASCAR. When

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<v Speaker 3>you're done, you're gonna have the West.

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<v Speaker 1>Point thing on the front. Two hundred eighty audio books

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<v Speaker 1>on the back. Just all kinds of deployment. But okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so do you recall the very first one that you

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<v Speaker 1>listened to?

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<v Speaker 2>Sure? So, to make a long story short, after the Pentagon,

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<v Speaker 2>after I left the Pentagon, started a business that lasted

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<v Speaker 2>twelve minutes, maybe a little bit longer than twelve minutes.

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<v Speaker 3>Fift Again, I'm not I'm not laughing at the time.

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<v Speaker 1>It's because I know how far you've come and so

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<v Speaker 1>in that in that time, I know it had to

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<v Speaker 1>be very difficult for you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was a it was a weird story if

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<v Speaker 2>you had time for it. So I am in and

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<v Speaker 2>at a theater for my job. So I'm back and

632
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<v Speaker 2>forth to Iraq. I probably took the flight from DC

633
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<v Speaker 2>to Kuwait half a dozen times, and I'm just kind

634
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<v Speaker 2>of getting burned out about it. And I remember I

635
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<v Speaker 2>was out there by myself. I was out of the

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<v Speaker 2>military specifically, but I was. I was doing this. I

637
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<v Speaker 2>was a GS civilian for the d D, so I

638
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<v Speaker 2>traveled a lot by myself. And so I'm in Kuwait

639
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<v Speaker 2>or I'm in Iraq, I'm working on a project. I'm

640
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<v Speaker 2>counting containers and doing all this other stuff. And a

641
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<v Speaker 2>rocket attack starts and normally alarms go off, and there's

642
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<v Speaker 2>this anti machine that starts firing to shoot down the

643
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<v Speaker 2>rockets coming into the camp. And the protocol is you

644
00:29:53.559 --> 00:29:56.880
<v Speaker 2>supposed to get up, grab your gear, head to a bunker,

645
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<v Speaker 2>right because there are live rounds coming into the camp

646
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<v Speaker 2>to try and kill you. And I, for whatever reason,

647
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<v Speaker 2>I decided not to get out of bed. And I

648
00:30:07.359 --> 00:30:10.400
<v Speaker 2>was just like, I'm not getting up, even though every

649
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<v Speaker 2>day alarms going off, this, that, and the other thing.

650
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<v Speaker 1>Now, let me try to set the scene because again,

651
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<v Speaker 1>I hear fireworks in the backyard yep. So you're hearing

652
00:30:20.200 --> 00:30:23.359
<v Speaker 1>all this stuff happening around you, yep, and you're just

653
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<v Speaker 1>laying there.

654
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<v Speaker 2>I'm just laying there. I think, I like.

655
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<v Speaker 1>Hands behind your head, kind of laying on the pillow

656
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<v Speaker 1>kind of thing. You know.

657
00:30:30.359 --> 00:30:32.480
<v Speaker 2>I was in bed and I was thinking to myself,

658
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<v Speaker 2>doesn't matter if I get up or not.

659
00:30:34.279 --> 00:30:36.960
<v Speaker 1>Okay, why did it not matter to you at that moment?

660
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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. It's a good question, Like I just

661
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<v Speaker 2>I didn't care. You get so accustomed to like this

662
00:30:44.680 --> 00:30:46.799
<v Speaker 2>wasn't like a one off thing, like until we're coming

663
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<v Speaker 2>into the camp. It was a pretty irregular occurrence, so

664
00:30:49.480 --> 00:30:53.240
<v Speaker 2>you're desensitized to this. In retrospect, I started thinking about,

665
00:30:53.359 --> 00:30:54.960
<v Speaker 2>like why thinking it up? Out of that out of

666
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<v Speaker 2>that bed, and you know, you start thinking about you know,

667
00:31:01.079 --> 00:31:04.240
<v Speaker 2>you're seventeen years old, you're at West Point, you're on

668
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<v Speaker 2>a run, and one of the first things they teach

669
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<v Speaker 2>it was how to sing cadence when you're out on

670
00:31:08.319 --> 00:31:10.400
<v Speaker 2>a run. So you guys sing together and you start

671
00:31:10.440 --> 00:31:15.319
<v Speaker 2>singing about like, you know, death and your death, all

672
00:31:15.400 --> 00:31:17.920
<v Speaker 2>to prepare you for a life that you're about to

673
00:31:17.960 --> 00:31:22.960
<v Speaker 2>go into where people dying is it's part of the business.

674
00:31:23.279 --> 00:31:25.480
<v Speaker 2>It's sad, it's terrible, but it happens, right.

675
00:31:25.519 --> 00:31:29.279
<v Speaker 1>So letting you know that it's more than just a possibility, correct, right, that.

676
00:31:29.200 --> 00:31:30.440
<v Speaker 3>It's a reality.

677
00:31:30.640 --> 00:31:33.559
<v Speaker 2>So anyway, so I get up. The next day, three

678
00:31:33.559 --> 00:31:37.079
<v Speaker 2>people were killed during the artillery, one of them getting

679
00:31:37.079 --> 00:31:39.200
<v Speaker 2>out of the shower, and I thought to myself, like,

680
00:31:39.319 --> 00:31:41.079
<v Speaker 2>why didn't I get about it? Is like that could

681
00:31:41.079 --> 00:31:42.519
<v Speaker 2>have been me. Why didn't I go and go to

682
00:31:42.519 --> 00:31:46.200
<v Speaker 2>a bunker? I was like, am I so desensitized to

683
00:31:46.240 --> 00:31:48.279
<v Speaker 2>this stuff now that it doesn't even motivate me to

684
00:31:48.279 --> 00:31:50.359
<v Speaker 2>get out of bed? And the answer was yes, obviously.

685
00:31:50.559 --> 00:31:52.960
<v Speaker 2>About two weeks later I put my put in my

686
00:31:52.960 --> 00:31:55.519
<v Speaker 2>two week notice and decided I was going to start

687
00:31:55.519 --> 00:31:58.440
<v Speaker 2>this business that I had read one book called Emaith revisited.

688
00:31:58.759 --> 00:32:01.400
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't audible. It's like old school, burn through all

689
00:32:01.440 --> 00:32:03.279
<v Speaker 2>my savings running this business.

690
00:32:03.440 --> 00:32:06.240
<v Speaker 1>And so what was the business itself?

691
00:32:06.720 --> 00:32:09.880
<v Speaker 2>So it was I think Uber, maybe Uber was just

692
00:32:09.880 --> 00:32:11.839
<v Speaker 2>starting or something like that. But what the idea was

693
00:32:11.880 --> 00:32:16.759
<v Speaker 2>to provide personal trainers to businesses. So basically we would

694
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<v Speaker 2>vet personal trainers and big wigs or rich people would

695
00:32:20.680 --> 00:32:22.480
<v Speaker 2>come into town, stay at a hotel. They want a

696
00:32:22.480 --> 00:32:25.519
<v Speaker 2>personal trainer, yoga instructor or whatever whatever. There was also

697
00:32:26.079 --> 00:32:29.000
<v Speaker 2>office buildings that wanted to offer a service were like, hey,

698
00:32:29.200 --> 00:32:31.440
<v Speaker 2>you work in our office building, we can have you.

699
00:32:31.599 --> 00:32:34.359
<v Speaker 2>We can have a personal trainer come and do personal

700
00:32:34.359 --> 00:32:38.559
<v Speaker 2>training with you. So our job was to get the trainers,

701
00:32:38.680 --> 00:32:42.160
<v Speaker 2>manage the trainers, and then deploy them to the different opportunities.

702
00:32:42.240 --> 00:32:44.960
<v Speaker 2>So that was the that was the business idea. So

703
00:32:45.000 --> 00:32:48.519
<v Speaker 2>most of that was you know, me doing me doing

704
00:32:48.519 --> 00:32:51.440
<v Speaker 2>the training, and at the time, my partner, my girlfriend

705
00:32:51.440 --> 00:32:53.039
<v Speaker 2>at the time, she would do some of the training.

706
00:32:53.519 --> 00:32:55.400
<v Speaker 2>But then we couldn't get to all of it. So

707
00:32:55.440 --> 00:32:57.200
<v Speaker 2>then we had to bring on some training and all

708
00:32:57.200 --> 00:32:59.200
<v Speaker 2>that kind of stuff. But you know, we hired too

709
00:32:59.240 --> 00:33:01.359
<v Speaker 2>fast and too much money and empty.

710
00:33:01.039 --> 00:33:05.799
<v Speaker 1>The expansion, right, yeah, the expansion. So okay, you how

711
00:33:05.799 --> 00:33:09.200
<v Speaker 1>old were you at this time? Okay, that's a young man.

712
00:33:09.240 --> 00:33:10.839
<v Speaker 1>I mean you're still a young man now, but you

713
00:33:10.880 --> 00:33:13.160
<v Speaker 1>know that's a young man right there. All right, So

714
00:33:13.559 --> 00:33:18.960
<v Speaker 1>twenty nine. At what point? What happens from twenty nine

715
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<v Speaker 1>to two thousand and twenty two? I believe April, did

716
00:33:24.759 --> 00:33:28.400
<v Speaker 1>I say that right? Twenty twenty two? Because I find

717
00:33:29.279 --> 00:33:32.599
<v Speaker 1>just based on you know, the limited time we've interacted

718
00:33:32.640 --> 00:33:36.240
<v Speaker 1>over the past four years, like you seem very very

719
00:33:36.279 --> 00:33:40.400
<v Speaker 1>disciplined to me, very structured and it always fascinates me.

720
00:33:40.519 --> 00:33:42.960
<v Speaker 1>And more than that, I'm always impressed by it because

721
00:33:43.440 --> 00:33:46.279
<v Speaker 1>I am the complete opposite.

722
00:33:46.119 --> 00:33:50.720
<v Speaker 3>Of that, you know, And so I've fooled you. I'll

723
00:33:50.759 --> 00:33:52.119
<v Speaker 3>take it. You're doing a great job.

724
00:33:52.200 --> 00:33:56.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because again just based off you know, our conversations

725
00:33:56.240 --> 00:33:59.039
<v Speaker 1>or you know, I see your social media posts and

726
00:33:59.359 --> 00:34:02.680
<v Speaker 1>they're always impressive. You know, I'm always able to take

727
00:34:02.680 --> 00:34:07.559
<v Speaker 1>a nugget of information, and so it's just like seeing

728
00:34:07.559 --> 00:34:12.679
<v Speaker 1>someone having similar beliefs. I think, you know, similar backgrounds,

729
00:34:13.440 --> 00:34:17.280
<v Speaker 1>both being married, and so I see that, Hey, you know,

730
00:34:17.440 --> 00:34:22.000
<v Speaker 1>good grades, you know, West Point Military, served big time jobs,

731
00:34:22.079 --> 00:34:25.119
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. Impressive, you know, and so

732
00:34:25.840 --> 00:34:30.000
<v Speaker 1>to see something not work out for you, I'm always like, well,

733
00:34:30.000 --> 00:34:32.480
<v Speaker 1>how did that happen? Now you're mentioning the too big,

734
00:34:32.519 --> 00:34:35.960
<v Speaker 1>too soon kind of thing, you know, with the business

735
00:34:35.960 --> 00:34:38.559
<v Speaker 1>that you had, so you know, like where do you

736
00:34:38.599 --> 00:34:39.239
<v Speaker 1>go after that?

737
00:34:39.599 --> 00:34:41.960
<v Speaker 2>So you can pick any place you want to move?

738
00:34:42.320 --> 00:34:45.760
<v Speaker 2>Ended up moving down here to Orlando, Okay. Eventually got

739
00:34:45.760 --> 00:34:48.880
<v Speaker 2>a job at rip It because I said to myself,

740
00:34:49.480 --> 00:34:51.199
<v Speaker 2>I want to be an entrepreneur.

741
00:34:51.639 --> 00:34:53.960
<v Speaker 1>I think you knew that it was still that hunger

742
00:34:54.039 --> 00:34:54.519
<v Speaker 1>was still in there.

743
00:34:54.599 --> 00:34:56.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because I think I had gotten burned out of

744
00:34:56.679 --> 00:34:59.800
<v Speaker 2>the government and the DoD and just working.

745
00:35:00.039 --> 00:35:03.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you can call that a major corporation, right,

746
00:35:03.559 --> 00:35:04.440
<v Speaker 1>you know.

747
00:35:04.320 --> 00:35:07.559
<v Speaker 2>And and I'd spent some time in bigger companies and

748
00:35:07.599 --> 00:35:10.360
<v Speaker 2>it just became clear to me that that was not

749
00:35:10.440 --> 00:35:14.400
<v Speaker 2>the right place for me to be successful. So I

750
00:35:14.519 --> 00:35:18.000
<v Speaker 2>ended up looking for people that I could learn from,

751
00:35:18.039 --> 00:35:22.760
<v Speaker 2>to entrepreneurs. And so when I was looking for jobs,

752
00:35:22.800 --> 00:35:27.559
<v Speaker 2>I was just looking to leverage my six sigma training

753
00:35:28.639 --> 00:35:31.199
<v Speaker 2>in a in a you know, smaller company. And that

754
00:35:31.320 --> 00:35:34.519
<v Speaker 2>meant the you know, six figure dream kind of went

755
00:35:34.559 --> 00:35:37.440
<v Speaker 2>away because again I had achieved that goal and quote,

756
00:35:37.440 --> 00:35:40.920
<v Speaker 2>I wasn't happy, right, So I ended up here in Orlando.

757
00:35:41.079 --> 00:35:45.960
<v Speaker 2>I started with rip it, and I met the Postings,

758
00:35:46.039 --> 00:35:49.159
<v Speaker 2>the two brothers who started the company, and just leaned

759
00:35:49.159 --> 00:35:51.000
<v Speaker 2>in to try and understand, like how were they so

760
00:35:51.039 --> 00:35:54.199
<v Speaker 2>successful at running a small business? And they know this,

761
00:35:54.280 --> 00:35:56.199
<v Speaker 2>But I tried to, you know, steal every idea.

762
00:35:56.320 --> 00:35:56.519
<v Speaker 1>You know.

763
00:35:56.599 --> 00:35:58.159
<v Speaker 2>The plan was to steal every idea I could and

764
00:35:58.199 --> 00:35:59.639
<v Speaker 2>then go do my own thing. And I was like

765
00:36:00.039 --> 00:36:00.880
<v Speaker 2>teen years ago.

766
00:36:01.400 --> 00:36:05.199
<v Speaker 1>And so at what point and I am piggybacking off

767
00:36:05.239 --> 00:36:08.119
<v Speaker 1>a social media posts that you had recently? I understand

768
00:36:08.159 --> 00:36:10.519
<v Speaker 1>that one of the books audio books that you listened

769
00:36:10.599 --> 00:36:12.559
<v Speaker 1>to was let me make sure I'm reading this right,

770
00:36:13.199 --> 00:36:17.000
<v Speaker 1>the Seven Habits of Highly Affected People. Yes, And how

771
00:36:17.039 --> 00:36:17.880
<v Speaker 1>did that impact you?

772
00:36:19.159 --> 00:36:21.320
<v Speaker 2>Well? So, just to give you some context when that

773
00:36:21.440 --> 00:36:23.239
<v Speaker 2>book was sort of introduced to me, right, it's all

774
00:36:23.239 --> 00:36:28.360
<v Speaker 2>about I think impact is about timing and your willingness

775
00:36:28.440 --> 00:36:33.480
<v Speaker 2>or your ability to absorb information. So I had hit

776
00:36:33.559 --> 00:36:36.800
<v Speaker 2>my proverbial rock bottom. So I think you know you

777
00:36:36.800 --> 00:36:41.239
<v Speaker 2>you you gave me the compliment that I was very

778
00:36:41.360 --> 00:36:44.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm very disciplined and successful. But that's really only true

779
00:36:44.400 --> 00:36:47.920
<v Speaker 2>in like one aspect of my life right at the time. Okay,

780
00:36:48.000 --> 00:36:52.159
<v Speaker 2>so I did well and structured environments like the military,

781
00:36:52.320 --> 00:36:55.639
<v Speaker 2>like the military, like school, I could, you know, you

782
00:36:55.719 --> 00:36:57.760
<v Speaker 2>tell me what I'm being assessed against? And I can,

783
00:36:58.000 --> 00:36:59.880
<v Speaker 2>I can, I can reach that, I can, I can

784
00:36:59.880 --> 00:37:04.000
<v Speaker 2>get evaluations those sorts of things. Looking back on my life,

785
00:37:04.039 --> 00:37:07.719
<v Speaker 2>anytime I was outside of a structured system, I was

786
00:37:07.760 --> 00:37:11.800
<v Speaker 2>all over the place, personal relationships, running a business. I

787
00:37:11.840 --> 00:37:15.599
<v Speaker 2>didn't have a structure, and I was terrible in that space.

788
00:37:15.760 --> 00:37:17.679
<v Speaker 1>And do you remember having that realization.

789
00:37:18.079 --> 00:37:21.119
<v Speaker 2>I remember having that realization later in life, but not

790
00:37:21.159 --> 00:37:23.719
<v Speaker 2>at that moment, not then when I was in it,

791
00:37:23.800 --> 00:37:25.960
<v Speaker 2>I was just in it. I'm just fighting fires and

792
00:37:26.000 --> 00:37:29.079
<v Speaker 2>paying bills and swimming upstream, right, you know, you know,

793
00:37:29.199 --> 00:37:29.760
<v Speaker 2>doing the thing.

794
00:37:30.360 --> 00:37:33.360
<v Speaker 1>And for anybody listening or watching, you know, that's what

795
00:37:33.519 --> 00:37:34.079
<v Speaker 1>if you're in it.

796
00:37:34.400 --> 00:37:34.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

797
00:37:34.679 --> 00:37:38.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, Because people see people and they see them successful.

798
00:37:38.239 --> 00:37:40.800
<v Speaker 3>They only know the the post.

799
00:37:40.519 --> 00:37:41.679
<v Speaker 1>Finish line, right, Yeah.

800
00:37:41.840 --> 00:37:43.519
<v Speaker 3>They don't see everything they had to deal with prior

801
00:37:43.519 --> 00:37:43.760
<v Speaker 3>to that.

802
00:37:44.039 --> 00:37:50.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So, the the girlfriend that we started the business

803
00:37:50.119 --> 00:37:53.519
<v Speaker 2>in DC with, we ended up getting married and things

804
00:37:53.599 --> 00:37:58.400
<v Speaker 2>were just not going well, and eventually we got divorced.

805
00:37:59.119 --> 00:38:01.760
<v Speaker 2>She was a alcoholic and she's doing really well now,

806
00:38:01.760 --> 00:38:03.599
<v Speaker 2>which I'm happy for her, but just it was just

807
00:38:03.639 --> 00:38:06.280
<v Speaker 2>a tough time for us. And so in the process

808
00:38:06.280 --> 00:38:09.800
<v Speaker 2>of that divorce ended up, you know, we had to

809
00:38:09.880 --> 00:38:12.639
<v Speaker 2>leave the place we were living. She moved out of state.

810
00:38:12.840 --> 00:38:15.239
<v Speaker 2>I ended up having to move to a close to

811
00:38:15.280 --> 00:38:17.440
<v Speaker 2>the job because I didn't have a car. We were

812
00:38:17.440 --> 00:38:20.840
<v Speaker 2>a one car family. She took the car. I was broke.

813
00:38:21.000 --> 00:38:23.480
<v Speaker 2>We were broke. We were we were month to month,

814
00:38:23.519 --> 00:38:26.039
<v Speaker 2>paycheck to paycheck, and then like this one disruption of

815
00:38:26.039 --> 00:38:28.480
<v Speaker 2>like moving and then do you have her some last month? No,

816
00:38:29.280 --> 00:38:31.360
<v Speaker 2>the last month of course, So I ended up having

817
00:38:31.400 --> 00:38:34.320
<v Speaker 2>a rent a room, like I said, pretty close to

818
00:38:34.320 --> 00:38:36.400
<v Speaker 2>the job, so I could, you know, walk to and

819
00:38:36.440 --> 00:38:38.719
<v Speaker 2>from work, and then bought a bike, like a bike

820
00:38:38.760 --> 00:38:39.440
<v Speaker 2>to and from work.

821
00:38:39.519 --> 00:38:40.960
<v Speaker 3>You say bike, you mean bicycle?

822
00:38:41.119 --> 00:38:44.719
<v Speaker 2>I mean bike. You were pedaling doing the whole thing. Yeah.

823
00:38:44.760 --> 00:38:45.280
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely.

824
00:38:45.719 --> 00:38:49.559
<v Speaker 2>And so I'm going through all this and I have

825
00:38:49.599 --> 00:38:52.360
<v Speaker 2>a job that's pretty good. I'm not making six figures.

826
00:38:52.400 --> 00:38:54.440
<v Speaker 2>I think I'm making I don't know, fifty or sixty

827
00:38:54.440 --> 00:38:58.920
<v Speaker 2>thousand dollars small company, right, Yeah. But these two brothers

828
00:38:58.920 --> 00:39:00.599
<v Speaker 2>that hired me, like they seem like they had it

829
00:39:00.599 --> 00:39:02.679
<v Speaker 2>all together, not just from the fact they were running

830
00:39:02.679 --> 00:39:05.480
<v Speaker 2>a business, but their family life seemed successful. And at

831
00:39:05.519 --> 00:39:07.360
<v Speaker 2>one point I just asked them. I was like, like,

832
00:39:07.480 --> 00:39:10.400
<v Speaker 2>what do you like, how do you do this? And

833
00:39:10.440 --> 00:39:11.239
<v Speaker 2>they looked at me, like.

834
00:39:12.119 --> 00:39:17.119
<v Speaker 1>Do what before you continue? Do you you remember asking

835
00:39:17.119 --> 00:39:17.840
<v Speaker 1>them that question?

836
00:39:18.000 --> 00:39:21.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I remember walking into Jason saying like, like, how

837
00:39:21.519 --> 00:39:22.760
<v Speaker 2>are you guys so successful?

838
00:39:22.960 --> 00:39:26.559
<v Speaker 1>No, the reason I asked that is because imagine if

839
00:39:26.599 --> 00:39:29.159
<v Speaker 1>you hadn't yeah, you know what I mean? And that,

840
00:39:29.280 --> 00:39:32.199
<v Speaker 1>to me, it's like the mind blown emoji, you know

841
00:39:32.239 --> 00:39:34.760
<v Speaker 1>what I mean. Imagine if you had not done that well,

842
00:39:35.039 --> 00:39:39.719
<v Speaker 1>but you were bold you may not think of yourself

843
00:39:39.719 --> 00:39:42.159
<v Speaker 1>that way, but you took the chance.

844
00:39:42.199 --> 00:39:43.760
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to ask, because they could have laughed you.

845
00:39:43.760 --> 00:39:44.800
<v Speaker 2>Off, right, they could have.

846
00:39:44.920 --> 00:39:46.679
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it should have been like what are you talking about?

847
00:39:46.840 --> 00:39:49.920
<v Speaker 2>It work? It worked, Yeah, they want those type of guys.

848
00:39:49.920 --> 00:39:52.639
<v Speaker 2>But it was like, honestly, I was at my wits end, man,

849
00:39:52.800 --> 00:39:55.840
<v Speaker 2>Like again I did I had done the assessment right,

850
00:39:56.239 --> 00:40:01.360
<v Speaker 2>I was like, apparently I'm smart, I like I work hard,

851
00:40:02.239 --> 00:40:04.800
<v Speaker 2>but those things did not yield like they yielded this

852
00:40:04.960 --> 00:40:06.400
<v Speaker 2>fair enough, this situation.

853
00:40:06.519 --> 00:40:07.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we're looking at the math quay.

854
00:40:08.400 --> 00:40:12.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so the math a math right. So I'm like,

855
00:40:12.800 --> 00:40:14.920
<v Speaker 2>something's not right here. So I decided to say, hey,

856
00:40:15.519 --> 00:40:17.320
<v Speaker 2>you guys seem to have figured out what are you doing?

857
00:40:17.440 --> 00:40:19.719
<v Speaker 2>And that's when Jason recommended, Hey, you need to read

858
00:40:19.760 --> 00:40:21.760
<v Speaker 2>this book. Here's audible, here's this app. I don't this

859
00:40:21.800 --> 00:40:24.280
<v Speaker 2>app listened to this book. So I had plenty of

860
00:40:24.320 --> 00:40:28.400
<v Speaker 2>time when I was walking my ass to Yeah, I

861
00:40:28.559 --> 00:40:32.360
<v Speaker 2>was walking to work. I was I was walking to

862
00:40:32.400 --> 00:40:35.400
<v Speaker 2>work to start listening to books. And that was the

863
00:40:35.400 --> 00:40:39.599
<v Speaker 2>first book. And like I said, it's timing, it's you know.

864
00:40:39.840 --> 00:40:43.480
<v Speaker 2>I was in a position where I was able to

865
00:40:43.519 --> 00:40:43.920
<v Speaker 2>hear the.

866
00:40:43.880 --> 00:40:46.800
<v Speaker 1>Message, right, you had to be open open to.

867
00:40:46.800 --> 00:40:51.360
<v Speaker 2>The receiving the message. And like, I devoured that book, man,

868
00:40:51.599 --> 00:40:53.199
<v Speaker 2>I think I knocked it out in like one or

869
00:40:53.199 --> 00:40:53.719
<v Speaker 2>two days.

870
00:40:53.840 --> 00:40:54.880
<v Speaker 3>That's amazing, it's amazing.

871
00:40:54.920 --> 00:40:55.599
<v Speaker 1>I love to hear that.

872
00:40:55.639 --> 00:40:56.360
<v Speaker 3>I love to hear that.

873
00:40:56.760 --> 00:40:59.320
<v Speaker 2>And then it was like one of the other cool

874
00:40:59.360 --> 00:41:03.000
<v Speaker 2>things was Matthew and Jason I would eat lunch together

875
00:41:04.159 --> 00:41:06.400
<v Speaker 2>and so I'd be listening to these books in this

876
00:41:06.440 --> 00:41:08.400
<v Speaker 2>book or in other books, and I'd come back and

877
00:41:08.519 --> 00:41:10.039
<v Speaker 2>be able to talk to them about it, like, hey,

878
00:41:10.199 --> 00:41:13.400
<v Speaker 2>I think you know this chapter was talking about X

879
00:41:13.480 --> 00:41:14.760
<v Speaker 2>y Z, how do you guys do that? What do

880
00:41:14.760 --> 00:41:17.239
<v Speaker 2>you guys think about that? And then today so they

881
00:41:17.239 --> 00:41:19.599
<v Speaker 2>would give me feedback or how they apply it and

882
00:41:19.639 --> 00:41:22.119
<v Speaker 2>that sort of thing. So it wasn't just listen to

883
00:41:22.199 --> 00:41:25.400
<v Speaker 2>the book and you know that's it. It was listen

884
00:41:25.480 --> 00:41:29.440
<v Speaker 2>to it, talk about it, simplify it, apply it, and

885
00:41:29.480 --> 00:41:31.559
<v Speaker 2>see if it yielded a better outcome for me.

886
00:41:31.800 --> 00:41:34.880
<v Speaker 1>That's again just the fact that you were willing to

887
00:41:36.280 --> 00:41:39.639
<v Speaker 1>you know, during your quote lowest time. Yeah, yeah, and

888
00:41:40.800 --> 00:41:43.960
<v Speaker 1>you found time to improve yourself, whether you realized that

889
00:41:44.000 --> 00:41:45.880
<v Speaker 1>at the time or not that that's what you were doing.

890
00:41:45.960 --> 00:41:47.000
<v Speaker 3>I like to think you were.

891
00:41:47.079 --> 00:41:48.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you tell me, were you Just like, well,

892
00:41:48.960 --> 00:41:50.440
<v Speaker 1>let me listen to this and see what I if

893
00:41:50.440 --> 00:41:51.360
<v Speaker 1>I get anything from it.

894
00:41:51.559 --> 00:41:54.039
<v Speaker 2>I think the I think the thing that made sense

895
00:41:54.079 --> 00:41:56.719
<v Speaker 2>to me at the time was I spent all those

896
00:41:56.800 --> 00:41:59.800
<v Speaker 2>years working, you know, doing six sigma and one of

897
00:41:59.840 --> 00:42:02.039
<v Speaker 2>the one of the things they talk about, we talk

898
00:42:02.079 --> 00:42:04.320
<v Speaker 2>about quite a bit in the space, is about identifying

899
00:42:04.360 --> 00:42:08.239
<v Speaker 2>root causes as to why things happen. Right, So I

900
00:42:08.400 --> 00:42:12.400
<v Speaker 2>just like try to apply that to my life as

901
00:42:12.400 --> 00:42:15.480
<v Speaker 2>opposed to, like something happening in a business, Why is

902
00:42:15.480 --> 00:42:18.320
<v Speaker 2>this happening? Why is this happening? Why is this happening?

903
00:42:18.400 --> 00:42:18.599
<v Speaker 1>Right?

904
00:42:18.719 --> 00:42:21.039
<v Speaker 2>Trying to identify the root cause, and then once you

905
00:42:21.119 --> 00:42:23.400
<v Speaker 2>identify that, you start putting things in place.

906
00:42:23.199 --> 00:42:25.679
<v Speaker 1>To let me ask you this based on that. So

907
00:42:26.320 --> 00:42:28.119
<v Speaker 1>when you say why is this happening? Why is this happening?

908
00:42:30.079 --> 00:42:34.679
<v Speaker 1>I am familiar with the seven wise, which is just

909
00:42:34.760 --> 00:42:36.960
<v Speaker 1>keep asking why, keep asking why do you get to

910
00:42:36.960 --> 00:42:40.400
<v Speaker 1>the actual reason? Is that similar or is Yeah?

911
00:42:40.440 --> 00:42:42.519
<v Speaker 2>I mean in my experience we call it five wives,

912
00:42:42.559 --> 00:42:44.360
<v Speaker 2>but yeah, it's the same, it's the same idea.

913
00:42:44.440 --> 00:42:46.800
<v Speaker 1>Now here's the thing I said seven, He said five,

914
00:42:46.880 --> 00:42:49.679
<v Speaker 1>It's probably actually five because I must have seen it

915
00:42:49.719 --> 00:42:50.559
<v Speaker 1>at one point.

916
00:42:50.800 --> 00:42:53.679
<v Speaker 3>It's actually has studied this. Let's make it five.

917
00:42:53.760 --> 00:42:55.840
<v Speaker 2>It's enough wise to get you to something.

918
00:42:55.639 --> 00:42:57.840
<v Speaker 3>There, or maybe I just need to ask seven. Five

919
00:42:57.920 --> 00:42:58.400
<v Speaker 3>isn't going to.

920
00:42:58.440 --> 00:42:58.920
<v Speaker 1>Do it for me?

921
00:42:59.119 --> 00:43:01.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's an enough you asked enough time to get

922
00:43:01.880 --> 00:43:04.079
<v Speaker 2>to a place where you can take action on the answer.

923
00:43:05.440 --> 00:43:07.599
<v Speaker 2>That's the that's the Crux store.

924
00:43:08.639 --> 00:43:15.239
<v Speaker 1>And I love that because you recently posted that knowing

925
00:43:15.440 --> 00:43:18.119
<v Speaker 1>was not the problem. Right, And if I may, I'm

926
00:43:18.119 --> 00:43:20.079
<v Speaker 1>gonna read the quote to you. Okay, most of us

927
00:43:20.199 --> 00:43:23.960
<v Speaker 1>already know that we need to eat better, exercise more,

928
00:43:24.519 --> 00:43:27.920
<v Speaker 1>communicate more with our loved ones, but we failed to

929
00:43:27.960 --> 00:43:32.159
<v Speaker 1>take action. Yes, why is that so?

930
00:43:32.199 --> 00:43:34.880
<v Speaker 2>There was this marketing study that came out probably ten

931
00:43:34.960 --> 00:43:38.360
<v Speaker 2>years ago that talks about this idea that ninety five

932
00:43:38.400 --> 00:43:41.719
<v Speaker 2>percent actions that we take from us from a consumer

933
00:43:41.760 --> 00:43:46.519
<v Speaker 2>standpoint are subconscious. When I even realizing that we're doing

934
00:43:46.760 --> 00:43:49.920
<v Speaker 2>and only five percent of what we do is or

935
00:43:49.960 --> 00:43:53.960
<v Speaker 2>what we buy, how we buy is conscious, I think

936
00:43:54.000 --> 00:43:57.360
<v Speaker 2>widly it's been adopted and I like to believe that

937
00:43:57.360 --> 00:44:01.559
<v Speaker 2>that translates to our lives in general. That ninety five

938
00:44:01.599 --> 00:44:03.880
<v Speaker 2>percent of what we do is subconscious, five percent of

939
00:44:03.880 --> 00:44:07.599
<v Speaker 2>what we do is conscious and what gets interesting is

940
00:44:07.599 --> 00:44:14.119
<v Speaker 2>a subconscious party. Right. Where do those stories come from?

941
00:44:14.320 --> 00:44:16.679
<v Speaker 2>Why do we believe the things that we believe? What

942
00:44:16.800 --> 00:44:21.599
<v Speaker 2>is driving our subconscious? Right? If you take a step

943
00:44:21.639 --> 00:44:24.840
<v Speaker 2>back and think about this idea that thoughts become beliefs,

944
00:44:24.840 --> 00:44:31.360
<v Speaker 2>beliefs become actions. We are surrounded inundated every day with

945
00:44:31.559 --> 00:44:37.119
<v Speaker 2>messages that tell us to buy more things, eat more food.

946
00:44:37.320 --> 00:44:40.639
<v Speaker 2>We did a presentation to some students over at Valencia

947
00:44:41.079 --> 00:44:43.079
<v Speaker 2>and try to add up all the days in which

948
00:44:43.079 --> 00:44:44.760
<v Speaker 2>you're supposed to go celebrate with food.

949
00:44:45.360 --> 00:44:47.480
<v Speaker 1>Right, guys, For those of you who don't know, Valentia

950
00:44:47.519 --> 00:44:49.519
<v Speaker 1>is a college here in Orlando area.

951
00:44:49.599 --> 00:44:54.320
<v Speaker 2>So we're supposed to celebrate on Fridays, we're supposed to

952
00:44:54.320 --> 00:44:56.039
<v Speaker 2>sell if you're a football fan, you're supposed to eat

953
00:44:56.079 --> 00:44:58.920
<v Speaker 2>chicken wings and beer on Sundays. Of course, if it's

954
00:44:58.920 --> 00:45:01.480
<v Speaker 2>your birthday, it's my birthday day, right, supposed to celebrate

955
00:45:01.519 --> 00:45:01.920
<v Speaker 2>with food.

956
00:45:02.440 --> 00:45:04.159
<v Speaker 1>He admitted it, guys, I was gonna bring it up.

957
00:45:04.159 --> 00:45:05.000
<v Speaker 2>Guys, he's doing.

958
00:45:04.880 --> 00:45:08.039
<v Speaker 3>Hit this podcast as a favor for me on his birthday.

959
00:45:08.079 --> 00:45:09.039
<v Speaker 1>So thank you very much.

960
00:45:09.079 --> 00:45:11.280
<v Speaker 2>By the way, some people celebrate for a week, Some

961
00:45:11.320 --> 00:45:12.880
<v Speaker 2>people celebrate their birthday.

962
00:45:12.519 --> 00:45:14.159
<v Speaker 1>Month, month, Yeah, yeah, I seen it right.

963
00:45:14.239 --> 00:45:16.519
<v Speaker 2>All the things maybe added up all the days, and

964
00:45:16.559 --> 00:45:18.280
<v Speaker 2>like I don't have a ton of friends or a

965
00:45:18.280 --> 00:45:20.119
<v Speaker 2>ton of family, but all those people are supposed to

966
00:45:20.159 --> 00:45:22.440
<v Speaker 2>support those people on the days. It's really hard to

967
00:45:22.519 --> 00:45:27.400
<v Speaker 2>hit your caloric intake number when you're spending all this

968
00:45:27.519 --> 00:45:30.760
<v Speaker 2>time celebrating as chatbt add up all these days for

969
00:45:30.840 --> 00:45:33.159
<v Speaker 2>somebody like me, one hundred and fifty days out of

970
00:45:33.159 --> 00:45:35.159
<v Speaker 2>three hundred and sixty five days you're supposed to celebrate

971
00:45:35.159 --> 00:45:37.639
<v Speaker 2>with food. That's before you even count donut.

972
00:45:37.360 --> 00:45:39.440
<v Speaker 3>Day when they bring it to the office.

973
00:45:39.519 --> 00:45:44.880
<v Speaker 2>National Taco yeah, National Taco Day, Tuesday, Margarite today. So again,

974
00:45:44.920 --> 00:45:48.559
<v Speaker 2>so these messages feed our subconscious and then we have

975
00:45:48.639 --> 00:45:52.440
<v Speaker 2>this conflict where I say I want five percent. My

976
00:45:52.519 --> 00:45:55.480
<v Speaker 2>five percent brain, a conscious brain says I want this thing,

977
00:45:56.000 --> 00:45:59.840
<v Speaker 2>but my subconscious brain, the ninety five percent, says it's

978
00:46:00.480 --> 00:46:03.519
<v Speaker 2>it's time to celebrate. And I think that's why we

979
00:46:03.599 --> 00:46:06.079
<v Speaker 2>have to struggle. That's why I had a struggle. I

980
00:46:06.119 --> 00:46:07.800
<v Speaker 2>had to deal with the stories that were in my

981
00:46:08.119 --> 00:46:11.639
<v Speaker 2>subconscious I had to bring those to light and understand

982
00:46:11.639 --> 00:46:15.119
<v Speaker 2>what those stories were, because though that ninety five percent

983
00:46:16.320 --> 00:46:20.199
<v Speaker 2>was overpowering the five percent, and I just didn't understand

984
00:46:20.239 --> 00:46:21.599
<v Speaker 2>what was happening to me at the time.

985
00:46:21.719 --> 00:46:24.199
<v Speaker 3>Can you reduce that ninety.

986
00:46:25.360 --> 00:46:27.400
<v Speaker 2>I think you can change that. I think you can

987
00:46:27.480 --> 00:46:32.480
<v Speaker 2>change the stories. I'll give it an analogy. When you

988
00:46:32.599 --> 00:46:35.880
<v Speaker 2>are learning how to drive the car. You remember when

989
00:46:35.920 --> 00:46:36.760
<v Speaker 2>you first started learning how to.

990
00:46:36.800 --> 00:46:38.719
<v Speaker 1>Drive, Okay, thanks to my sister.

991
00:46:39.920 --> 00:46:43.719
<v Speaker 2>It took all of your attention right to figure out

992
00:46:43.719 --> 00:46:46.079
<v Speaker 2>what the right pressure was to put onto the gas pedal,

993
00:46:46.599 --> 00:46:48.679
<v Speaker 2>to put figure out what the right pressure was to

994
00:46:48.719 --> 00:46:50.719
<v Speaker 2>slow down and break the car rather than drik it

995
00:46:50.760 --> 00:46:55.559
<v Speaker 2>to a stop. Entering the highway was a nerve wracking experience, right,

996
00:46:55.599 --> 00:47:01.039
<v Speaker 2>all those things. But now when you drive, if it's subconscious,

997
00:47:01.159 --> 00:47:01.440
<v Speaker 2>you're not.

998
00:47:01.360 --> 00:47:03.559
<v Speaker 1>Even thinking about it, almost to a detriment.

999
00:47:03.639 --> 00:47:06.480
<v Speaker 2>Well, but you get there safely most of the time.

1000
00:47:08.599 --> 00:47:11.360
<v Speaker 2>So much so, so much so that you can take

1001
00:47:11.360 --> 00:47:14.599
<v Speaker 2>your conscious brain and do other things. You can listen

1002
00:47:14.639 --> 00:47:16.559
<v Speaker 2>to music, you can listen to podcasts, you can be

1003
00:47:16.639 --> 00:47:19.159
<v Speaker 2>on your phone, you can eat all the things that

1004
00:47:19.199 --> 00:47:22.840
<v Speaker 2>were not even in the realm of possibility when you're

1005
00:47:22.880 --> 00:47:28.840
<v Speaker 2>first learning. Right, So if someone can put the messages

1006
00:47:28.920 --> 00:47:33.519
<v Speaker 2>into your subconscious, then you can change the messages in

1007
00:47:33.559 --> 00:47:37.960
<v Speaker 2>your subconscious and we are. We are victims of our

1008
00:47:37.960 --> 00:47:39.880
<v Speaker 2>own success. We don't even realize that. I was talking

1009
00:47:39.880 --> 00:47:42.159
<v Speaker 2>to Katie earlier about this, right, Like, for a lot

1010
00:47:42.239 --> 00:47:45.920
<v Speaker 2>of people when they start working out, eating healthy, it's

1011
00:47:45.960 --> 00:47:51.320
<v Speaker 2>like learning how to drive a car. It takes full focus,

1012
00:47:51.440 --> 00:47:54.119
<v Speaker 2>full effort, one hundred percent, like I gotta I gotta

1013
00:47:54.559 --> 00:47:55.920
<v Speaker 2>work on this thing, high energy.

1014
00:47:56.000 --> 00:47:56.159
<v Speaker 1>Right.

1015
00:47:56.519 --> 00:47:58.519
<v Speaker 2>But for people who come to the cross for gym

1016
00:47:58.599 --> 00:48:01.239
<v Speaker 2>every day or eat healthy as it's far their lifestyle, well,

1017
00:48:01.280 --> 00:48:06.000
<v Speaker 2>now it's like even think about it, it takes. It's

1018
00:48:06.000 --> 00:48:09.079
<v Speaker 2>like you've been driving a car forever. Right, And I think,

1019
00:48:09.559 --> 00:48:12.599
<v Speaker 2>so you cannot reduce You can't change the dynamic of

1020
00:48:12.880 --> 00:48:16.280
<v Speaker 2>five percent conscious ninety five percent conscious or subconscious, but

1021
00:48:16.320 --> 00:48:19.960
<v Speaker 2>you can certainly change what the subconscious is telling you,

1022
00:48:20.079 --> 00:48:21.280
<v Speaker 2>what the subconscious is doing.

1023
00:48:21.360 --> 00:48:21.719
<v Speaker 1>I see.

1024
00:48:22.119 --> 00:48:24.880
<v Speaker 2>So if we can get the subconscious to be alignment

1025
00:48:24.960 --> 00:48:27.800
<v Speaker 2>with the conscious, I mean you can do anything.

1026
00:48:27.880 --> 00:48:32.039
<v Speaker 1>Said that they're both on the positive side.

1027
00:48:31.719 --> 00:48:34.719
<v Speaker 2>They're in alignment, okay, right, Like, so I can set

1028
00:48:34.760 --> 00:48:37.519
<v Speaker 2>a health goal and if my subconscious says, oh you're

1029
00:48:37.519 --> 00:48:40.119
<v Speaker 2>a healthy person, oh you you don't bend to social

1030
00:48:40.159 --> 00:48:42.960
<v Speaker 2>norms when it comes to you know, partying all the time,

1031
00:48:43.000 --> 00:48:46.039
<v Speaker 2>eating on time, whatever, Then yeah, you can. You're more

1032
00:48:46.079 --> 00:48:48.119
<v Speaker 2>than likely gonna hit your health goal right because you're

1033
00:48:48.400 --> 00:48:51.360
<v Speaker 2>you believe it. Even on the subconscious level. Your stories

1034
00:48:51.360 --> 00:48:53.159
<v Speaker 2>that you have in your head are supporting this thing

1035
00:48:53.159 --> 00:48:54.679
<v Speaker 2>that like, Yeah, I'm gonna be a healthy person.

1036
00:48:55.400 --> 00:49:01.440
<v Speaker 1>Now trying to relate that to what I know or understand,

1037
00:49:02.280 --> 00:49:04.679
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to refer that to CrossFit. So let me

1038
00:49:04.880 --> 00:49:07.280
<v Speaker 1>ask you this or mention this. One of the things

1039
00:49:07.280 --> 00:49:08.960
<v Speaker 1>that I've told many people this. One of the things

1040
00:49:09.000 --> 00:49:13.239
<v Speaker 1>I love about being a member here and coaching at

1041
00:49:13.360 --> 00:49:17.800
<v Speaker 1>Mousetrap is that I have seen and continue to see

1042
00:49:18.199 --> 00:49:21.559
<v Speaker 1>people come through the door very first time, maybe the

1043
00:49:21.559 --> 00:49:25.800
<v Speaker 1>first time they've ever worked out or moved in decades

1044
00:49:25.960 --> 00:49:30.239
<v Speaker 1>or at any point. Maybe they weren't into sports as kids,

1045
00:49:30.280 --> 00:49:36.639
<v Speaker 1>and there's always a sense of nervousness, little anxiety, and

1046
00:49:36.920 --> 00:49:39.920
<v Speaker 1>I think the biggest thing is not knowing what to

1047
00:49:40.079 --> 00:49:42.920
<v Speaker 1>do now. I know when I came in, I had

1048
00:49:43.119 --> 00:49:45.400
<v Speaker 1>maybe done some curls, a little bench with my buddies

1049
00:49:45.440 --> 00:49:47.360
<v Speaker 1>in high school kind of thing, but I never really

1050
00:49:47.400 --> 00:49:50.119
<v Speaker 1>worked out. I wouldn't have known how to do any

1051
00:49:50.159 --> 00:49:53.840
<v Speaker 1>of it had I not been coached and shown how

1052
00:49:53.880 --> 00:49:58.800
<v Speaker 1>to do it. Now I love seeing people and I'm

1053
00:49:58.840 --> 00:50:00.159
<v Speaker 1>thinking of several right now.

1054
00:50:00.320 --> 00:50:04.639
<v Speaker 3>You may know who you are who came in and.

1055
00:50:04.599 --> 00:50:08.000
<v Speaker 1>Projected that or shared that, and that I have seen

1056
00:50:08.039 --> 00:50:11.880
<v Speaker 1>them put in the effort, put in the work. But

1057
00:50:12.000 --> 00:50:14.039
<v Speaker 1>it can't just be a casual thing. You have to

1058
00:50:14.280 --> 00:50:17.599
<v Speaker 1>choose to do this sure, and then over time it

1059
00:50:17.679 --> 00:50:21.800
<v Speaker 1>becomes not less of an effort because there's always gonna

1060
00:50:21.840 --> 00:50:25.079
<v Speaker 1>you know, you'll always need to push. But to your

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00:50:25.079 --> 00:50:29.000
<v Speaker 1>point about it being subconscious, where Okay, I know this

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<v Speaker 1>is what we're gonna do. I'm gonna come in, We're

1063
00:50:30.440 --> 00:50:32.920
<v Speaker 1>gonna warm up, I'm gonna grab you know, whatever equipment

1064
00:50:32.960 --> 00:50:34.760
<v Speaker 1>I need. I'm're gonna start moving with it, and then

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna have the actual workout of the day.

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<v Speaker 3>And then they have successes.

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<v Speaker 1>And what I love to do is to cheer on

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<v Speaker 1>their successes because they may not realize in the moment

1069
00:50:44.719 --> 00:50:47.400
<v Speaker 1>how far they've come to them. It's just, oh, I

1070
00:50:47.400 --> 00:50:50.360
<v Speaker 1>didn't hit at PR today. I was hitting my prs consecutively,

1071
00:50:50.760 --> 00:50:54.159
<v Speaker 1>you know, but now I'm not. But I know how

1072
00:50:54.199 --> 00:50:57.800
<v Speaker 1>far they've come. So I cheer and celebrate all the

1073
00:50:57.840 --> 00:51:01.079
<v Speaker 1>little victories. Let's say, you know, and I think a

1074
00:51:01.079 --> 00:51:04.199
<v Speaker 1>lot of times they don't realize it. They've put that,

1075
00:51:04.360 --> 00:51:08.159
<v Speaker 1>you know, just the all the struggles and all the

1076
00:51:08.199 --> 00:51:13.480
<v Speaker 1>successes into that subconscious, so like I can't you know,

1077
00:51:13.639 --> 00:51:15.239
<v Speaker 1>someone may say I might not be able to do

1078
00:51:15.280 --> 00:51:17.920
<v Speaker 1>a thirty inch box jump. Okay, can you do it

1079
00:51:17.960 --> 00:51:20.840
<v Speaker 1>twenty four? All right, let's tire twenty five. And then

1080
00:51:20.880 --> 00:51:23.239
<v Speaker 1>you build up to it and you've done it before

1081
00:51:24.800 --> 00:51:27.360
<v Speaker 1>so you can do it again. Yeah, you know, And

1082
00:51:27.519 --> 00:51:29.760
<v Speaker 1>I think that's really important. Now I may have gone

1083
00:51:29.760 --> 00:51:32.079
<v Speaker 1>off the rails there with what we're saying, but I

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00:51:32.239 --> 00:51:37.880
<v Speaker 1>just think making that subconscious a positive or in alignment

1085
00:51:37.920 --> 00:51:40.960
<v Speaker 1>as you said, right, could it be is it possible

1086
00:51:40.960 --> 00:51:45.920
<v Speaker 1>that your subconscious is negatively aligned to your your negative consciousness,

1087
00:51:46.760 --> 00:51:48.880
<v Speaker 1>so it's just negative and negative?

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00:51:49.679 --> 00:51:49.920
<v Speaker 2>Yes?

1089
00:51:50.239 --> 00:51:51.519
<v Speaker 1>Sure, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the biggest opportunity that we have as coaches,

1091
00:51:56.079 --> 00:52:02.079
<v Speaker 2>as people, as people is to bring the subconscious thoughts

1092
00:52:02.119 --> 00:52:06.199
<v Speaker 2>that we have to Like, I think that's our biggest opportunity.

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<v Speaker 1>To explain or give an example.

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<v Speaker 2>Please, sure, that's a silly example.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll no let me hear it silly or the better.

1096
00:52:13.360 --> 00:52:14.840
<v Speaker 1>I think more people can relate to silly.

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00:52:15.000 --> 00:52:17.039
<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Hope that's been my whole goal of my entire life.

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<v Speaker 2>We I'll give you a silly example. I'll give you

1100
00:52:22.119 --> 00:52:25.079
<v Speaker 2>I guess a little more serious. Okay. When I started

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00:52:25.159 --> 00:52:28.760
<v Speaker 2>dating Katie, we had this ritual where we had to

1102
00:52:28.800 --> 00:52:34.280
<v Speaker 2>go get some version of rice or Chinese food or

1103
00:52:34.360 --> 00:52:35.760
<v Speaker 2>Japanese food on.

1104
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<v Speaker 1>A Friday, okay, every Friday. Okay.

1105
00:52:40.119 --> 00:52:41.960
<v Speaker 3>Do you know how that started? I do?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, so okay, I'm sorry, sorry, no, I got you

1107
00:52:45.360 --> 00:52:48.280
<v Speaker 2>so probably like a couple of weeks. She was like,

1108
00:52:48.360 --> 00:52:50.159
<v Speaker 2>she was down for it, whatever it might be, like

1109
00:52:50.199 --> 00:52:53.519
<v Speaker 2>that early relationship. I'm just trying to keetch you to

1110
00:52:53.599 --> 00:52:54.800
<v Speaker 2>like me. I want you to like you know, that

1111
00:52:54.840 --> 00:52:57.239
<v Speaker 2>whole thing. So she let it go for like a while,

1112
00:52:57.639 --> 00:53:00.280
<v Speaker 2>and then she was like, what's the like, what's to

1113
00:53:00.280 --> 00:53:02.039
<v Speaker 2>deal with this? Like why don't you have to get

1114
00:53:03.599 --> 00:53:06.880
<v Speaker 2>Panda Express every dag on Friday? And I said to her,

1115
00:53:06.960 --> 00:53:08.360
<v Speaker 2>I said, well, you know, when I was a kid,

1116
00:53:08.440 --> 00:53:11.000
<v Speaker 2>my mom like, I love Chinese food. Why do you

1117
00:53:11.000 --> 00:53:13.119
<v Speaker 2>love Chinese food? Well, when I was a kid my

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00:53:13.159 --> 00:53:16.039
<v Speaker 2>mom again, single mom, we didn't have a lot, didn't

1119
00:53:16.039 --> 00:53:19.000
<v Speaker 2>do a lot. Fridays she would say, hey, you guys,

1120
00:53:19.039 --> 00:53:23.360
<v Speaker 2>clean up the house, scrub the toilets, vacuum dust, blah

1121
00:53:23.400 --> 00:53:25.599
<v Speaker 2>blah blah, cut the grass, do all the things, and

1122
00:53:25.639 --> 00:53:28.320
<v Speaker 2>if you do a good job, I'll bring home Chinese

1123
00:53:28.360 --> 00:53:31.000
<v Speaker 2>food and like the cheap stuff at the corner with

1124
00:53:31.039 --> 00:53:33.519
<v Speaker 2>the egg rolls and the whole thing. And so like

1125
00:53:33.559 --> 00:53:36.960
<v Speaker 2>this Chinese food became like this thing where like I

1126
00:53:36.960 --> 00:53:39.800
<v Speaker 2>would like celebrate doing a good job, or like my

1127
00:53:39.800 --> 00:53:41.840
<v Speaker 2>mom was proud of me. And so now like the

1128
00:53:41.920 --> 00:53:44.480
<v Speaker 2>story I have carrying around with me is like I

1129
00:53:44.480 --> 00:53:48.559
<v Speaker 2>gotta have Chinese food on Friday night and we would

1130
00:53:48.639 --> 00:53:54.960
<v Speaker 2>have weight loss challenges and I remember, like I can't

1131
00:53:54.960 --> 00:53:58.679
<v Speaker 2>wait till this is over. It's like finally get che

1132
00:53:58.840 --> 00:54:02.079
<v Speaker 2>go back to my life now. I mean, it's a

1133
00:54:02.079 --> 00:54:04.840
<v Speaker 2>silly example, but like this story has been flowing around

1134
00:54:04.880 --> 00:54:09.360
<v Speaker 2>in my head for like thirty something years, forty years

1135
00:54:09.400 --> 00:54:11.960
<v Speaker 2>until Katie asked me, asked me about it and say

1136
00:54:12.079 --> 00:54:14.239
<v Speaker 2>like what is the deal about this? And I had

1137
00:54:14.280 --> 00:54:17.000
<v Speaker 2>never really sat down and thought about it. Right, So

1138
00:54:17.039 --> 00:54:19.960
<v Speaker 2>that's a silly example, I'd say A more serious example

1139
00:54:20.719 --> 00:54:25.599
<v Speaker 2>is that I thought wealth was making one hundred thousand

1140
00:54:25.599 --> 00:54:31.519
<v Speaker 2>dollars a year, not a million dollar portfolio, not you know,

1141
00:54:31.559 --> 00:54:34.199
<v Speaker 2>a multimillion dollar net worth. None of the like that

1142
00:54:34.360 --> 00:54:36.400
<v Speaker 2>was not the context that I grew up in. So

1143
00:54:37.360 --> 00:54:40.599
<v Speaker 2>I never thought wealth or building wealth or being rich

1144
00:54:40.960 --> 00:54:44.519
<v Speaker 2>was ever possible for me. And that was the story

1145
00:54:44.559 --> 00:54:48.239
<v Speaker 2>I carried around for the longest time. And what that

1146
00:54:48.320 --> 00:54:53.159
<v Speaker 2>means is whenever I got money, I spent money because

1147
00:54:53.199 --> 00:54:55.360
<v Speaker 2>it wasn't about the story in my head, was not

1148
00:54:55.440 --> 00:54:58.079
<v Speaker 2>about the story of my subconscious, was not about building wealth.

1149
00:54:58.199 --> 00:54:59.559
<v Speaker 2>It was about making one hundred grand.

1150
00:55:00.239 --> 00:55:01.280
<v Speaker 1>Okay, does that make sense?

1151
00:55:01.360 --> 00:55:01.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

1152
00:55:01.519 --> 00:55:03.760
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, And so you had to change your mindset.

1153
00:55:04.000 --> 00:55:07.880
<v Speaker 2>I had to. I had to recognize that the reason

1154
00:55:07.880 --> 00:55:10.239
<v Speaker 2>why I wasn't building wealth was because I have these

1155
00:55:10.280 --> 00:55:12.480
<v Speaker 2>stories in my head that aren't tied to building building wealth.

1156
00:55:12.559 --> 00:55:15.639
<v Speaker 2>They're tied to spending money for earning more money, Okay, Right,

1157
00:55:16.000 --> 00:55:20.039
<v Speaker 2>And so until you raise that stuff to the surface

1158
00:55:20.079 --> 00:55:23.360
<v Speaker 2>and say this is why I'm acting this way, this

1159
00:55:23.400 --> 00:55:25.719
<v Speaker 2>is why I'm doing these things, you're gonna keep You're

1160
00:55:25.719 --> 00:55:27.760
<v Speaker 2>gonna keep on keep on doing.

1161
00:55:27.519 --> 00:55:28.840
<v Speaker 1>Them the same way, the same way.

1162
00:55:28.880 --> 00:55:29.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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00:55:29.320 --> 00:55:32.039
<v Speaker 1>Now, let me ask you this. Yeah, you mentioned recently

1164
00:55:32.079 --> 00:55:34.280
<v Speaker 1>in a post the term let me make sure I'm

1165
00:55:34.280 --> 00:55:35.599
<v Speaker 1>reading it right, Yeah, low.

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<v Speaker 2>Agency, low agency.

1167
00:55:36.920 --> 00:55:38.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, can you define what that is?

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00:55:39.320 --> 00:55:43.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So, during the course of walking and listening to

1169
00:55:43.000 --> 00:55:45.920
<v Speaker 2>the audio books podcast, I got introduced to this idea,

1170
00:55:45.960 --> 00:55:49.360
<v Speaker 2>this concept of the agency. As most recently I really

1171
00:55:49.400 --> 00:55:52.400
<v Speaker 2>started thinking about it, like what that actually meant, because

1172
00:55:52.400 --> 00:55:54.519
<v Speaker 2>again I was asking myself those questions about.

1173
00:55:54.599 --> 00:55:57.639
<v Speaker 1>I've heard the term, but I never really understood.

1174
00:55:57.760 --> 00:56:00.760
<v Speaker 2>And it's it's become popular in the I guess more

1175
00:56:00.800 --> 00:56:06.000
<v Speaker 2>popular in the personal development space recently. But again it

1176
00:56:06.039 --> 00:56:08.960
<v Speaker 2>started with me asking like why are people like why

1177
00:56:09.239 --> 00:56:14.360
<v Speaker 2>was I successful in systems like in highly systemized places school, Army,

1178
00:56:14.800 --> 00:56:18.920
<v Speaker 2>corporate America? But when the system weren't there, I wasn't

1179
00:56:18.920 --> 00:56:21.079
<v Speaker 2>as successful. I didn't have like I was like I

1180
00:56:21.199 --> 00:56:22.880
<v Speaker 2>was all over the place I was. I was struggling

1181
00:56:22.920 --> 00:56:26.119
<v Speaker 2>to achieve my goals. And so I got introduced to

1182
00:56:26.159 --> 00:56:28.079
<v Speaker 2>this idea of agency and I just started researching the

1183
00:56:28.079 --> 00:56:31.159
<v Speaker 2>heck out of it and to my wife would probably

1184
00:56:31.199 --> 00:56:34.280
<v Speaker 2>admit this, I have become obsessed with this concept. So

1185
00:56:34.440 --> 00:56:35.840
<v Speaker 2>to answer a question, that's a long way to get

1186
00:56:35.840 --> 00:56:36.840
<v Speaker 2>to your answer your question.

1187
00:56:37.159 --> 00:56:41.159
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's a powerful word. I love.

1188
00:56:42.119 --> 00:56:47.000
<v Speaker 2>Agency is this belief that I agency is a skill

1189
00:56:47.079 --> 00:56:49.760
<v Speaker 2>set that you can develop, but it's essentially believing that

1190
00:56:50.199 --> 00:56:53.440
<v Speaker 2>I have an impact on the outcomes of my life, right,

1191
00:56:54.079 --> 00:56:56.880
<v Speaker 2>And so I like to think about agency and sort

1192
00:56:56.880 --> 00:57:01.400
<v Speaker 2>of for for pillars, it it's about goal setting. So

1193
00:57:01.440 --> 00:57:03.480
<v Speaker 2>I have some goal that I'm trying to achieve. We

1194
00:57:03.519 --> 00:57:07.360
<v Speaker 2>as humans do that, but being able to understand what

1195
00:57:07.400 --> 00:57:11.639
<v Speaker 2>my goals are, I have some concept of my future self, right,

1196
00:57:11.679 --> 00:57:13.760
<v Speaker 2>So it's not just about the immediate, but it's about

1197
00:57:13.760 --> 00:57:16.159
<v Speaker 2>also what I'm what I'm gonna look like and do

1198
00:57:16.280 --> 00:57:19.000
<v Speaker 2>and be like ten years from now, twenty years from now,

1199
00:57:19.039 --> 00:57:23.960
<v Speaker 2>whatever that is. Agency also speaks to understanding the total

1200
00:57:24.000 --> 00:57:28.599
<v Speaker 2>cost of things. So when I make a decision, there's

1201
00:57:28.639 --> 00:57:31.639
<v Speaker 2>an emotional cost, there's a physical cost, there's a financial cost.

1202
00:57:32.760 --> 00:57:36.719
<v Speaker 2>And then this final concept I really think speaks to agencies,

1203
00:57:37.039 --> 00:57:41.639
<v Speaker 2>this idea of radical responsibility, like it's not my fault

1204
00:57:41.760 --> 00:57:44.159
<v Speaker 2>that things certain things happen to me, but it's certain

1205
00:57:44.199 --> 00:57:47.079
<v Speaker 2>my responsibility on what to do about it next. Right,

1206
00:57:47.440 --> 00:57:49.880
<v Speaker 2>So those four pillars I like to lean on and

1207
00:57:49.880 --> 00:57:53.159
<v Speaker 2>say this is what agency is, right, the ability to

1208
00:57:53.199 --> 00:57:56.440
<v Speaker 2>impact the outcomes of my life with those four sort

1209
00:57:56.480 --> 00:57:59.880
<v Speaker 2>of pillars. So when you say low agency, it means

1210
00:57:59.880 --> 00:58:04.840
<v Speaker 2>that if we consider agency on a spectrum, I'm at

1211
00:58:04.840 --> 00:58:08.440
<v Speaker 2>the lower end of that. Like I don't consider goals.

1212
00:58:08.559 --> 00:58:12.639
<v Speaker 2>I don't consider my future self. I don't take radical

1213
00:58:12.679 --> 00:58:16.079
<v Speaker 2>responsibility over the things that happen in my life. And

1214
00:58:16.119 --> 00:58:19.960
<v Speaker 2>I don't consider the total cost, right, I only consider

1215
00:58:20.719 --> 00:58:25.440
<v Speaker 2>the monthly payment. I only consider this thing happened to me.

1216
00:58:25.480 --> 00:58:28.360
<v Speaker 2>It's the government's fault, or it's white people's fault, or

1217
00:58:28.360 --> 00:58:30.679
<v Speaker 2>it's black people's fault, or it's rich people's fault, or

1218
00:58:30.719 --> 00:58:33.960
<v Speaker 2>it's the Democrat's fault, or it's Republican's fault. Right, So

1219
00:58:34.719 --> 00:58:37.800
<v Speaker 2>when you start hearing that type of language or having

1220
00:58:37.800 --> 00:58:43.880
<v Speaker 2>those types of thought processes, it's lower agency. I got

1221
00:58:43.920 --> 00:58:45.440
<v Speaker 2>you from my perspective.

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00:58:45.280 --> 00:58:48.199
<v Speaker 1>Now just listing everything that you did there. And that

1223
00:58:48.239 --> 00:58:51.000
<v Speaker 1>fourth pillar really hit me hard, by the way, because

1224
00:58:52.360 --> 00:58:55.960
<v Speaker 1>the taking responsibility, Yeah, understanding that things that have happened

1225
00:58:56.000 --> 00:58:58.239
<v Speaker 1>to you might not necessarily be your fault, say, but

1226
00:58:59.199 --> 00:59:02.920
<v Speaker 1>you can take act right. And so I think a

1227
00:59:02.920 --> 00:59:06.320
<v Speaker 1>lot of times, honestly, people get so caught up in

1228
00:59:06.360 --> 00:59:09.119
<v Speaker 1>the day to day, Hey, trying to get the kids fed,

1229
00:59:09.679 --> 00:59:11.440
<v Speaker 1>trying to get them to school, bills paid, and all

1230
00:59:11.440 --> 00:59:15.280
<v Speaker 1>that kind of stuff, that we can forget about the

1231
00:59:15.320 --> 00:59:19.000
<v Speaker 1>importance of that and like understanding the fundamental reasons why

1232
00:59:19.960 --> 00:59:23.239
<v Speaker 1>we're doing what we're doing, or flip that, not doing

1233
00:59:23.280 --> 00:59:25.639
<v Speaker 1>what we need to do in order to better ourselves

1234
00:59:25.639 --> 00:59:32.599
<v Speaker 1>in our situation. Yeah, so with low agency, if you

1235
00:59:32.679 --> 00:59:34.480
<v Speaker 1>find yourself to have it, because a lot of times

1236
00:59:34.519 --> 00:59:37.079
<v Speaker 1>I really think people don't peek.

1237
00:59:36.840 --> 00:59:37.480
<v Speaker 3>Behind the curtain.

1238
00:59:39.000 --> 00:59:41.519
<v Speaker 1>Whether that be just because they're not aware, they don't know,

1239
00:59:41.800 --> 00:59:44.360
<v Speaker 1>or maybe they don't want to peek behind that curtain.

1240
00:59:44.400 --> 00:59:45.760
<v Speaker 3>That's I think that's valid.

1241
00:59:45.880 --> 00:59:48.800
<v Speaker 1>Right, So what do you think people need to do

1242
00:59:49.280 --> 00:59:52.239
<v Speaker 1>if they find themselves in that low agency and they

1243
00:59:52.280 --> 00:59:54.239
<v Speaker 1>do want to make a change.

1244
00:59:55.639 --> 00:59:57.360
<v Speaker 2>Subscribe to my substances.

1245
00:59:58.280 --> 01:00:01.519
<v Speaker 3>It that's perfect the set up. I laid it up,

1246
01:00:01.679 --> 01:00:02.840
<v Speaker 3>he grab it, dunked it.

1247
01:00:02.880 --> 01:00:03.440
<v Speaker 1>I love that.

1248
01:00:03.519 --> 01:00:05.559
<v Speaker 3>No, how do they find your substack?

1249
01:00:05.639 --> 01:00:07.920
<v Speaker 2>By the way, just go to substock and you search

1250
01:00:07.960 --> 01:00:10.039
<v Speaker 2>for build your Proof or what's his name of the

1251
01:00:10.079 --> 01:00:12.800
<v Speaker 2>company that Katie and I started, or Alan Thompson and

1252
01:00:12.840 --> 01:00:14.559
<v Speaker 2>you'll you'll find it and.

1253
01:00:14.480 --> 01:00:17.599
<v Speaker 3>That's Alan Thompson A L L E N H O

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<v Speaker 3>N P S so win.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's difficult, right because to answer your question a

1256
01:00:22.199 --> 01:00:25.880
<v Speaker 2>second way, low agency, it's difficult that you know that

1257
01:00:25.960 --> 01:00:29.360
<v Speaker 2>you're there, right because so much of it again again

1258
01:00:29.559 --> 01:00:34.039
<v Speaker 2>is your subconscious telling you that it's okay to blame

1259
01:00:34.599 --> 01:00:38.920
<v Speaker 2>other people. It's okay to have nothing but monthly payments

1260
01:00:38.960 --> 01:00:43.760
<v Speaker 2>and never consider the total cost. It's okay to yolo.

1261
01:00:44.119 --> 01:00:46.199
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I was talking to a I was talking

1262
01:00:46.239 --> 01:00:49.920
<v Speaker 2>to a coworker of mine, and we were just talking about,

1263
01:00:50.760 --> 01:00:53.079
<v Speaker 2>you know, finances and building wealth, and I was just

1264
01:00:53.119 --> 01:00:55.559
<v Speaker 2>trying to part some wisdom. They probably like, get out

1265
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<v Speaker 2>of here, oh man, But I was just talking about like, well,

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01:00:57.960 --> 01:01:01.079
<v Speaker 2>I was curious, like, you know, they're twenty five years old, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>how often to her and her you know, peers sent

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<v Speaker 2>around talk about building wealth. And she said something to

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<v Speaker 2>the defect of life. Well, you know, you only live once.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't take it with you. And I looked at

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01:01:12.320 --> 01:01:14.639
<v Speaker 2>her and I said, well, I mean, so long as

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<v Speaker 2>you're not living a life of crime, which you may

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<v Speaker 2>or may not be doing. But so long as you're

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<v Speaker 2>not living a life of crime, you're likely to grow old.

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<v Speaker 2>But her perception was her response to me, the language

1276
01:01:29.719 --> 01:01:33.440
<v Speaker 2>she used was like that's not likely to happen, when

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01:01:33.840 --> 01:01:39.000
<v Speaker 2>in reality is very likely that you're going to grow old,

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01:01:39.280 --> 01:01:41.079
<v Speaker 2>and that you need resources in order to do that.

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<v Speaker 2>So in a lot of cases, it's hard to know

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<v Speaker 2>that you're making low agency decisions or because you don't

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<v Speaker 2>have that context. I think the easiest thing to start

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<v Speaker 2>with is if you are setting goals and you're not

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01:01:55.360 --> 01:02:00.280
<v Speaker 2>achieving them, it's likely that you're making low agency decisions.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, one more time.

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to make sure everybody caught that part,

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01:02:02.760 --> 01:02:05.920
<v Speaker 1>because I think it's very important. If you're setting goals

1287
01:02:07.039 --> 01:02:12.719
<v Speaker 1>but not achieving them, it may be due to low agency,

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01:02:12.920 --> 01:02:16.639
<v Speaker 1>low agency decisions, decision making, okay, all right, because you

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01:02:16.679 --> 01:02:19.480
<v Speaker 1>are not focused on those four pillars correct, and you

1290
01:02:19.519 --> 01:02:24.559
<v Speaker 1>are just going through your day to day, your routine,

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01:02:25.239 --> 01:02:27.400
<v Speaker 1>or you're not focusing on the proper things, right.

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<v Speaker 2>I think low agency can be identified through our language

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01:02:31.159 --> 01:02:34.320
<v Speaker 2>and our actions. So if you find yourself saying things

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01:02:34.440 --> 01:02:39.400
<v Speaker 2>like when you ask yourself, why am I doing this,

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01:02:39.519 --> 01:02:42.280
<v Speaker 2>and you say things like I don't know, or I

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01:02:42.280 --> 01:02:47.239
<v Speaker 2>don't care or it doesn't matter, it suggests that you

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01:02:47.280 --> 01:02:51.000
<v Speaker 2>are making low agency decisions. Rights. I asked Katie this

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01:02:51.039 --> 01:02:55.360
<v Speaker 2>the other day. Now, my wife is committed to increasing

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01:02:55.360 --> 01:02:59.960
<v Speaker 2>her testosterone and managing her hormones and doing all these things,

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01:03:00.119 --> 01:03:02.400
<v Speaker 2>us the things, And I asked her, what what did

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01:03:02.440 --> 01:03:05.960
<v Speaker 2>you have for breakfast? Yesterday, yesterday, and she knew down

1302
01:03:06.000 --> 01:03:08.480
<v Speaker 2>to the tea what she had for breakfast. And the

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01:03:08.519 --> 01:03:12.239
<v Speaker 2>reason why she knows that is because she's intentional with

1304
01:03:12.320 --> 01:03:14.800
<v Speaker 2>the food choices that she's making. It's a very it's

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01:03:14.840 --> 01:03:16.960
<v Speaker 2>a very high agency, right, Like you think about it,

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01:03:17.119 --> 01:03:21.199
<v Speaker 2>She's focused on building protein or consuming protein so she

1307
01:03:21.199 --> 01:03:24.360
<v Speaker 2>can build muscles so later in life she can still

1308
01:03:24.440 --> 01:03:27.440
<v Speaker 2>manipulate the environment that is around her. So in one

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01:03:27.559 --> 01:03:30.119
<v Speaker 2>simple case, what a what are you eating for breakfast?

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01:03:30.440 --> 01:03:35.360
<v Speaker 2>She demonstrates radical responsibility. She has a focus on her

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01:03:35.360 --> 01:03:38.440
<v Speaker 2>future self. She's set some goals because she knows this

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01:03:38.519 --> 01:03:41.719
<v Speaker 2>breakfast is moving her in the direction of that goal.

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01:03:41.760 --> 01:03:46.119
<v Speaker 2>And she's assessed the total cost, like this small investment

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01:03:46.440 --> 01:03:49.159
<v Speaker 2>will just breakfast, right, We'll pay dividends for her.

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01:03:49.360 --> 01:03:55.360
<v Speaker 1>So and because you know, I think it's fascinating. I

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01:03:55.440 --> 01:03:57.480
<v Speaker 1>love it and I know exactly what you mean. Yeah, well,

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01:03:57.480 --> 01:03:59.360
<v Speaker 1>at least I think I do. Let's find out, right,

1318
01:03:59.519 --> 01:04:01.800
<v Speaker 1>because I want to know. And for the people watching

1319
01:04:01.840 --> 01:04:04.960
<v Speaker 1>and listening, I think this is really important. Okay, Okay,

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01:04:05.039 --> 01:04:08.760
<v Speaker 1>so you know you ask what you had for breakfast? Okay,

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01:04:08.800 --> 01:04:10.159
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know where this story was going.

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01:04:10.199 --> 01:04:11.920
<v Speaker 2>Oh man, I don't hope you don't.

1323
01:04:11.880 --> 01:04:16.360
<v Speaker 1>Get yourself in trouble. But no, like is it that

1324
01:04:16.519 --> 01:04:20.519
<v Speaker 1>people may need to put more thought and effort into

1325
01:04:20.800 --> 01:04:23.519
<v Speaker 1>just every decision that they make throughout the course of

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01:04:23.559 --> 01:04:28.800
<v Speaker 1>the day. Yes, but there it is right there, it is.

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01:04:28.880 --> 01:04:29.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>No, Like again, I think a lot of times we

1329
01:04:32.000 --> 01:04:33.760
<v Speaker 1>go through the motions. You know, I don't want to

1330
01:04:33.760 --> 01:04:36.400
<v Speaker 1>speak for everybody, but I can speak for myself, you know,

1331
01:04:36.840 --> 01:04:40.440
<v Speaker 1>all right, time for dinner, time for bed, get up,

1332
01:04:40.559 --> 01:04:43.360
<v Speaker 1>LUNs going off, you know, let's you know, But definitely

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01:04:43.400 --> 01:04:44.840
<v Speaker 1>not while I'm coaching at mouse Rep.

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<v Speaker 2>Well done. So again, and this is not a conspiracy

1335
01:04:50.360 --> 01:04:53.280
<v Speaker 2>theory because I don't think things are. I don't think

1336
01:04:53.280 --> 01:04:57.280
<v Speaker 2>companies are. Culture do these things. It's not some grand

1337
01:04:57.280 --> 01:05:00.480
<v Speaker 2>conspiracy theory saying these things are done on purpose, right,

1338
01:05:01.239 --> 01:05:06.360
<v Speaker 2>But they are intentional in the sense that businesses, like

1339
01:05:06.440 --> 01:05:10.159
<v Speaker 2>certain businesses want us to be and say things like

1340
01:05:10.239 --> 01:05:13.880
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, I don't care certain aspects of culture.

1341
01:05:13.880 --> 01:05:16.719
<v Speaker 2>I think culture is a system businesses or systems certain

1342
01:05:16.760 --> 01:05:19.559
<v Speaker 2>parts of the culture want us to be to make

1343
01:05:19.639 --> 01:05:25.320
<v Speaker 2>low agency decisions. So one thing that I learned from

1344
01:05:25.360 --> 01:05:33.360
<v Speaker 2>six Sigma is that you create systems all the time.

1345
01:05:34.440 --> 01:05:39.119
<v Speaker 2>So whatever you're currently experiencing. You have created that system.

1346
01:05:40.000 --> 01:05:41.599
<v Speaker 2>A way to think about it is, if you are

1347
01:05:43.679 --> 01:05:48.960
<v Speaker 2>fifty years old and overweight, you have perfected a system

1348
01:05:49.360 --> 01:05:52.840
<v Speaker 2>that means you eat or you over consume calories, you

1349
01:05:52.880 --> 01:05:56.760
<v Speaker 2>do not exercise enough, and it has yielded the outcome

1350
01:05:56.800 --> 01:05:58.679
<v Speaker 2>that you are now fifty years old and overweight. You

1351
01:05:58.719 --> 01:06:00.880
<v Speaker 2>have perfected it. You Like, you know exactly how much

1352
01:06:00.920 --> 01:06:03.519
<v Speaker 2>you need to eat, where to eat, how much to drink,

1353
01:06:03.599 --> 01:06:06.920
<v Speaker 2>how little exercise to do to achieve that exact physique

1354
01:06:06.960 --> 01:06:10.559
<v Speaker 2>in an exact level of body fat. Well done right now,

1355
01:06:11.000 --> 01:06:15.400
<v Speaker 2>Like the person who was in that situation made that system. Okay,

1356
01:06:15.880 --> 01:06:18.960
<v Speaker 2>the question is why do they do that? Yeah?

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01:06:19.039 --> 01:06:20.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you have five wives.

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01:06:20.159 --> 01:06:21.159
<v Speaker 2>To figure it out, right.

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01:06:21.440 --> 01:06:24.800
<v Speaker 3>But okay, so again.

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<v Speaker 1>Knowing you, Yeah, I find all of this fascinating and

1361
01:06:32.159 --> 01:06:34.440
<v Speaker 1>it's very educational. I think it's great, and I think

1362
01:06:34.480 --> 01:06:37.840
<v Speaker 1>it's important for people watching and listening right now to

1363
01:06:38.400 --> 01:06:41.639
<v Speaker 1>get so right now, I'm just thinking about myself. I'm

1364
01:06:41.679 --> 01:06:44.440
<v Speaker 1>in the car, you know, I'm listening to this podcast.

1365
01:06:44.440 --> 01:06:46.599
<v Speaker 1>It's amazing. The host is really phenomenal and you get

1366
01:06:46.639 --> 01:06:49.719
<v Speaker 1>like super cute, and the guests isn't bad either. But

1367
01:06:49.840 --> 01:06:54.880
<v Speaker 1>like they're you know, consuming this information and they're like, oh, damn,

1368
01:06:55.199 --> 01:06:57.519
<v Speaker 1>I do that. You know, I didn't even realize it.

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01:06:57.639 --> 01:07:00.000
<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm fifty and I'm not in the best shape,

1370
01:07:00.039 --> 01:07:02.800
<v Speaker 1>and I don't exercise, and I'm eating my burger right

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01:07:02.840 --> 01:07:06.360
<v Speaker 1>now as I'm listening to this. What is the one thing,

1372
01:07:07.079 --> 01:07:11.639
<v Speaker 1>and this is tough, What is the one thing that

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01:07:11.719 --> 01:07:15.679
<v Speaker 1>an individual, in your opinion, can do to get them

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01:07:15.760 --> 01:07:21.599
<v Speaker 1>moving in a positive direction with systems or just impacting

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01:07:22.000 --> 01:07:22.920
<v Speaker 1>or improving their life.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a tough question.

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01:07:24.280 --> 01:07:26.960
<v Speaker 1>It's a tough question. It's different for everybody. Imagine like

1378
01:07:27.039 --> 01:07:30.199
<v Speaker 1>the the goal is different for everyone.

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01:07:30.360 --> 01:07:32.360
<v Speaker 2>Right if I get.

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01:07:32.320 --> 01:07:35.000
<v Speaker 1>Based on six sigma and everything we discussed here today,

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<v Speaker 1>what is that one thing?

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01:07:36.360 --> 01:07:38.079
<v Speaker 2>If I had to pick one thing that you can

1383
01:07:38.119 --> 01:07:41.400
<v Speaker 2>do to change your life right now, it is to

1384
01:07:41.639 --> 01:07:42.920
<v Speaker 2>start journaling.

1385
01:07:44.840 --> 01:07:46.719
<v Speaker 3>Now, define that for me?

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01:07:46.840 --> 01:07:49.519
<v Speaker 1>Sure, because I have notebooks all over my house and

1387
01:07:49.559 --> 01:07:52.119
<v Speaker 1>some of them have a sentence yep, some of them

1388
01:07:52.119 --> 01:07:54.599
<v Speaker 1>have a few pages, you know, and I you know,

1389
01:07:54.719 --> 01:07:57.639
<v Speaker 1>it's not something that I haven't attempted before. I just

1390
01:07:57.880 --> 01:08:00.840
<v Speaker 1>am not consistent with it. So what you define journaling?

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01:08:00.880 --> 01:08:04.360
<v Speaker 2>Mass You open up a Google specially, you type in

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01:08:04.400 --> 01:08:08.840
<v Speaker 2>the day of the day, and you list out what

1393
01:08:09.000 --> 01:08:09.639
<v Speaker 2>happened that day.

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01:08:10.960 --> 01:08:12.840
<v Speaker 1>Now, when you say list out what happened to that day,

1395
01:08:12.880 --> 01:08:15.480
<v Speaker 1>I got up, yep, I went to the restroom. I

1396
01:08:15.519 --> 01:08:17.760
<v Speaker 1>went to the bathroom, brush my teeth, yep, got to

1397
01:08:17.800 --> 01:08:19.279
<v Speaker 1>the kitchen. You're listing all this stuff.

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01:08:19.520 --> 01:08:20.439
<v Speaker 2>List what happened that day?

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01:08:20.479 --> 01:08:20.840
<v Speaker 1>Okay?

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<v Speaker 2>And then I want you to list three things that

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01:08:23.680 --> 01:08:24.600
<v Speaker 2>you're grateful.

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01:08:24.279 --> 01:08:25.119
<v Speaker 1>For, okay.

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01:08:25.640 --> 01:08:27.359
<v Speaker 2>And then I want you to list what you plan

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01:08:27.439 --> 01:08:28.279
<v Speaker 2>on doing tomorrow.

1405
01:08:28.920 --> 01:08:31.760
<v Speaker 1>Okay. Should all these be separate columns? Again, I'm just

1406
01:08:31.840 --> 01:08:33.960
<v Speaker 1>asking for whoever it could be. It could be stream

1407
01:08:34.000 --> 01:08:35.319
<v Speaker 1>of consciousness.

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01:08:35.439 --> 01:08:39.119
<v Speaker 2>Now here's the key. The next day, I need you

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01:08:39.159 --> 01:08:41.159
<v Speaker 2>to tell me did you do the things that you

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01:08:41.199 --> 01:08:44.000
<v Speaker 2>said you were going to do the day before? You

1411
01:08:44.079 --> 01:08:46.600
<v Speaker 2>made a bunch of promises to yourself the night before,

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01:08:46.880 --> 01:08:50.560
<v Speaker 2>saying I'm gonna do all these things. Did you do them?

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01:08:50.600 --> 01:08:52.359
<v Speaker 2>And if you didn't do them, why not?

1414
01:08:53.159 --> 01:08:56.439
<v Speaker 1>And it is in that in that Google in that

1415
01:08:56.520 --> 01:08:59.560
<v Speaker 1>Google sheet sheet, why I did not do it?

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01:09:00.199 --> 01:09:03.640
<v Speaker 2>To you? Open up the Google sheet type in a

1417
01:09:03.760 --> 01:09:06.640
<v Speaker 2>day and you talk about, yes, you look at your

1418
01:09:06.680 --> 01:09:08.640
<v Speaker 2>list that you made the things I want, the things

1419
01:09:08.720 --> 01:09:10.399
<v Speaker 2>I said I was going to do today did I

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01:09:10.439 --> 01:09:13.880
<v Speaker 2>do them? And you answer the question did you do them?

1421
01:09:13.960 --> 01:09:16.119
<v Speaker 2>Yes or no? And why didn't you do them? And

1422
01:09:16.159 --> 01:09:18.520
<v Speaker 2>it is in that moment that you should start asking

1423
01:09:18.560 --> 01:09:22.680
<v Speaker 2>the five whys and start surfacing the stories, the things

1424
01:09:22.840 --> 01:09:27.000
<v Speaker 2>that are preventing you from keeping the promises that you

1425
01:09:27.079 --> 01:09:31.760
<v Speaker 2>make to yourself. And when you start doing that, you're

1426
01:09:31.760 --> 01:09:34.199
<v Speaker 2>going to start to realize, like, I keep making these

1427
01:09:34.199 --> 01:09:37.760
<v Speaker 2>promises to myself and I don't and I don't keep them.

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01:09:38.039 --> 01:09:44.239
<v Speaker 2>Why is that happening? It's because subconscious is in conflict

1429
01:09:44.560 --> 01:09:45.600
<v Speaker 2>with your conscious brain.

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01:09:47.039 --> 01:09:49.239
<v Speaker 1>Do you find that people tend to make the same

1431
01:09:49.279 --> 01:09:51.760
<v Speaker 1>mistakes over and over again? And I hope using mistakes

1432
01:09:52.159 --> 01:09:53.880
<v Speaker 1>that might not even be the right term.

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01:09:54.039 --> 01:09:59.960
<v Speaker 2>So the six sigma in me right says, eventually pattern

1434
01:10:00.239 --> 01:10:05.119
<v Speaker 2>will start to show themselves. On day two, when you

1435
01:10:05.199 --> 01:10:09.239
<v Speaker 2>go in and you list the things that you didn't do,

1436
01:10:09.279 --> 01:10:10.720
<v Speaker 2>you get to the bottom and you list the things

1437
01:10:10.760 --> 01:10:13.359
<v Speaker 2>that the promises that you're gonna that you set for

1438
01:10:13.399 --> 01:10:16.359
<v Speaker 2>yourself for the next day. On day three, you open

1439
01:10:16.439 --> 01:10:18.439
<v Speaker 2>up your journal, typing the day of the week or

1440
01:10:18.479 --> 01:10:20.880
<v Speaker 2>day of the year or the date, and then you

1441
01:10:21.239 --> 01:10:24.159
<v Speaker 2>answer the question I said I was gonna do these things.

1442
01:10:24.680 --> 01:10:26.720
<v Speaker 2>Some of them were a carryover from the first day.

1443
01:10:27.479 --> 01:10:30.600
<v Speaker 2>Did I do them? Why didn't I do them? And

1444
01:10:31.279 --> 01:10:33.920
<v Speaker 2>I promise you you will start seeing patterns. I was

1445
01:10:33.960 --> 01:10:37.399
<v Speaker 2>too tired. I didn't feel like it. That's another one

1446
01:10:36.399 --> 01:10:39.560
<v Speaker 2>of the age. I didn't feel like it. Well why

1447
01:10:39.560 --> 01:10:41.840
<v Speaker 2>didn't you feel like it? Right? You said you want

1448
01:10:41.880 --> 01:10:44.680
<v Speaker 2>to do this thing? Well I got some You start

1449
01:10:44.840 --> 01:10:49.119
<v Speaker 2>And the biggest challenge, the biggest opportunity I think for us,

1450
01:10:49.359 --> 01:10:51.880
<v Speaker 2>is that radical responsibility. We turn the mirror, we look

1451
01:10:51.920 --> 01:10:54.000
<v Speaker 2>at the mirror. It's the man in the mirror, Michael

1452
01:10:54.039 --> 01:11:01.199
<v Speaker 2>Jackson told us. And I love how like Michael Jackson

1453
01:11:01.199 --> 01:11:07.279
<v Speaker 2>now is like in Vogue came back around anyway. I

1454
01:11:07.319 --> 01:11:08.640
<v Speaker 2>hope that haircut don't come back.

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01:11:09.640 --> 01:11:13.600
<v Speaker 3>I mean, this is thinning, it's silver. I don't think

1456
01:11:13.600 --> 01:11:14.439
<v Speaker 3>I can pull it off.

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01:11:14.479 --> 01:11:16.840
<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm just saying, but you.

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01:11:16.920 --> 01:11:19.199
<v Speaker 2>Start, you'll start seeing patterns. That's why that's what happened

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01:11:19.199 --> 01:11:21.720
<v Speaker 2>to me. I started seeing patterns in the journal I

1460
01:11:21.760 --> 01:11:24.000
<v Speaker 2>was keeping. And you know, just to talk about journaling,

1461
01:11:24.439 --> 01:11:29.000
<v Speaker 2>there's a negative stereotype to journaling. How So if I

1462
01:11:29.159 --> 01:11:31.439
<v Speaker 2>if I asked a bunch of people to close your

1463
01:11:31.479 --> 01:11:34.039
<v Speaker 2>eyes and like, what do you picture when I say

1464
01:11:34.039 --> 01:11:38.319
<v Speaker 2>the word journaling. Yeah, they might think a pink diary

1465
01:11:38.399 --> 01:11:41.600
<v Speaker 2>or like show me man's man who journals?

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01:11:42.880 --> 01:11:46.159
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, the stigma that it that journaling itself has.

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01:11:46.600 --> 01:11:51.119
<v Speaker 2>It's almost like there's this story being told in the

1468
01:11:51.159 --> 01:11:54.000
<v Speaker 2>culture about this thing that can really help you, and

1469
01:11:54.039 --> 01:11:57.520
<v Speaker 2>you build this subconscious thing to prevent us from doing it.

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01:11:58.319 --> 01:12:00.000
<v Speaker 2>Then we don't have the data to improve our lives.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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01:12:00.560 --> 01:12:05.520
<v Speaker 2>But you know Marcus really is journaled. Martin Luther King Jr.

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01:12:06.119 --> 01:12:11.640
<v Speaker 2>In prison journaled. So journaling is a you know, man's man.

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01:12:11.840 --> 01:12:14.439
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. No, do you do you feel that like some

1475
01:12:14.479 --> 01:12:17.319
<v Speaker 1>guys like feel that there's a like a negative or

1476
01:12:17.319 --> 01:12:23.159
<v Speaker 1>almost like uh, you know, like what's a feminine like

1477
01:12:23.319 --> 01:12:25.760
<v Speaker 1>quality to journaling? It's just not masculine?

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01:12:27.439 --> 01:12:30.439
<v Speaker 2>Do you know any do you see a lot of podcasters.

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01:12:29.800 --> 01:12:33.119
<v Speaker 1>Or I mean, you know talking about to that point,

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01:12:33.119 --> 01:12:34.880
<v Speaker 1>I know there was a lot that you know, there's

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01:12:35.479 --> 01:12:36.640
<v Speaker 1>the manisphere, right.

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01:12:36.720 --> 01:12:36.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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01:12:37.039 --> 01:12:40.279
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to even get we can do this

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01:12:40.319 --> 01:12:43.079
<v Speaker 1>again talk about to talk about that because you no,

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01:12:43.319 --> 01:12:48.239
<v Speaker 1>Like I think, because I intentionally surround myself with people

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01:12:48.359 --> 01:12:52.279
<v Speaker 1>who have a sense of positivity or who are driven,

1487
01:12:53.479 --> 01:12:57.720
<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't think about what that negativity is now. Unfortunately,

1488
01:12:57.760 --> 01:12:59.760
<v Speaker 1>you turn on the TV or you start scrolling and

1489
01:12:59.840 --> 01:13:02.560
<v Speaker 1>you start seeing it. But I can just turn it off,

1490
01:13:02.680 --> 01:13:07.279
<v Speaker 1>you know. Like again, I reached a point I think

1491
01:13:07.439 --> 01:13:09.520
<v Speaker 1>towards the end of my thirties going into my forties.

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01:13:09.560 --> 01:13:12.840
<v Speaker 1>And I think it also coincided with me getting involved

1493
01:13:12.840 --> 01:13:15.479
<v Speaker 1>with CrossFit and so forth, long before I ever started

1494
01:13:15.520 --> 01:13:18.159
<v Speaker 1>coaching that I just started. It changed my perspective on

1495
01:13:18.199 --> 01:13:22.680
<v Speaker 1>a lot of things. And you know, while I think

1496
01:13:22.720 --> 01:13:25.239
<v Speaker 1>sometimes I need to step out of my little bubble

1497
01:13:25.880 --> 01:13:28.880
<v Speaker 1>to remember, oh hey, it's not like this everywhere, right,

1498
01:13:29.359 --> 01:13:32.840
<v Speaker 1>And so you know, if you're listening or watching right now,

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01:13:33.840 --> 01:13:35.520
<v Speaker 1>who's it going to hurt? Who's even going to know

1500
01:13:35.640 --> 01:13:37.720
<v Speaker 1>that you're journaling? You know, at the end of the day,

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01:13:37.840 --> 01:13:41.279
<v Speaker 1>that's fair. If all you're doing is improving yourself, then

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01:13:41.960 --> 01:13:42.319
<v Speaker 1>you know.

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01:13:42.560 --> 01:13:44.920
<v Speaker 2>So the people around you. I think if you lean

1504
01:13:44.920 --> 01:13:48.920
<v Speaker 2>into this will start noticing changes in you. But that's

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01:13:48.960 --> 01:13:49.479
<v Speaker 2>what I hope for.

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01:13:49.640 --> 01:13:54.640
<v Speaker 1>Again. It's easy, right, or it can be at the

1507
01:13:54.760 --> 01:13:57.600
<v Speaker 1>very least right, But I know, you know, we all

1508
01:13:57.640 --> 01:14:00.600
<v Speaker 1>face our challenges and they're all some them are deep,

1509
01:14:01.159 --> 01:14:04.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, but I think they are you Overcomeable is

1510
01:14:04.800 --> 01:14:05.760
<v Speaker 1>overcomable word?

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01:14:05.960 --> 01:14:08.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. Katie and I have a word for this.

1512
01:14:08.039 --> 01:14:11.920
<v Speaker 2>It's called figure out able. That's even more non word.

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01:14:12.000 --> 01:14:15.560
<v Speaker 3>No, no, no, I've seen that the new Oxford. Yeah yeah, yeah,

1514
01:14:16.479 --> 01:14:18.119
<v Speaker 3>I think it's twenty twenty seven version.

1515
01:14:18.319 --> 01:14:20.560
<v Speaker 2>Overcomable is good, but figure out a ble is.

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01:14:21.199 --> 01:14:23.399
<v Speaker 3>No, it is pretty good. I like it, all right, sir.

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01:14:23.479 --> 01:14:24.119
<v Speaker 3>Let me ask you this.

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01:14:24.159 --> 01:14:26.159
<v Speaker 1>And I think we started this by you asking me.

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01:14:27.359 --> 01:14:29.359
<v Speaker 1>There's going to be some behind the scenes stuff, guys,

1520
01:14:29.359 --> 01:14:31.760
<v Speaker 1>and I don't know if this was part of it

1521
01:14:31.880 --> 01:14:33.720
<v Speaker 1>or once we actually started the podcast.

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01:14:33.520 --> 01:14:35.079
<v Speaker 2>By behind the scenes. Just put it out there.

1523
01:14:35.239 --> 01:14:36.880
<v Speaker 1>Put it out there. It's not gonna behind the scenes

1524
01:14:36.920 --> 01:14:38.840
<v Speaker 1>once it's out there. Just hey, I'm just gonna put

1525
01:14:38.880 --> 01:14:41.880
<v Speaker 1>behind this to try to drive by the way.

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01:14:41.960 --> 01:14:43.159
<v Speaker 3>Yeah no, oh, I'm a big fan.

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01:14:43.199 --> 01:14:43.800
<v Speaker 1>Oh don't you wait.

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01:14:44.079 --> 01:14:45.640
<v Speaker 3>We're gonna have tons of shorts of this man.

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01:14:46.000 --> 01:14:46.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah no.

1530
01:14:46.640 --> 01:14:48.119
<v Speaker 3>But you started by.

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01:14:48.039 --> 01:14:50.760
<v Speaker 1>Asking me what my goal was, Yes, all right, So

1532
01:14:50.800 --> 01:14:54.640
<v Speaker 1>we're going to end the questions by asking you what

1533
01:14:55.159 --> 01:14:57.000
<v Speaker 1>is your long term goal.

1534
01:14:57.680 --> 01:14:59.640
<v Speaker 2>When it comes to business or just in general.

1535
01:15:00.800 --> 01:15:01.279
<v Speaker 1>Here we go.

1536
01:15:01.359 --> 01:15:06.319
<v Speaker 3>You tell me, or you can make a list, you

1537
01:15:06.319 --> 01:15:08.000
<v Speaker 3>know a little bit of everything.

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01:15:08.039 --> 01:15:13.199
<v Speaker 2>No, I have I have a couple of goals. My

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01:15:13.199 --> 01:15:17.960
<v Speaker 2>My number one goal right now is to find purpose

1540
01:15:18.039 --> 01:15:20.760
<v Speaker 2>and meaning in the work that I'm doing. I think

1541
01:15:20.840 --> 01:15:23.399
<v Speaker 2>that the job that I have does quite a bit

1542
01:15:23.479 --> 01:15:25.359
<v Speaker 2>of that, but there's more that I want to do.

1543
01:15:26.439 --> 01:15:32.680
<v Speaker 2>They're so like, there's so often I'm in the I'm in.

1544
01:15:33.279 --> 01:15:35.720
<v Speaker 2>I'll come in on a Saturday, I'll have a great workout,

1545
01:15:35.920 --> 01:15:40.439
<v Speaker 2>be surrounded by fantastic people. We'll grab some Chipotle, head home,

1546
01:15:40.640 --> 01:15:41.279
<v Speaker 2>get in the pool.

1547
01:15:42.840 --> 01:15:44.239
<v Speaker 1>That's the dream, the life.

1548
01:15:44.399 --> 01:15:48.600
<v Speaker 2>It's a life that I never imagined that could happen

1549
01:15:48.800 --> 01:15:53.560
<v Speaker 2>for me. And I want to help as many people

1550
01:15:53.600 --> 01:15:56.800
<v Speaker 2>as I can have the same experience to achieve a

1551
01:15:56.840 --> 01:15:59.960
<v Speaker 2>life that they never imagine possible for them. So, I mean,

1552
01:16:00.199 --> 01:16:00.399
<v Speaker 2>you know.

1553
01:16:00.399 --> 01:16:03.319
<v Speaker 1>What's fascinating to that, Like the day you listed coming

1554
01:16:03.359 --> 01:16:06.239
<v Speaker 1>into the gym, have an amazing workout, surround yourself with

1555
01:16:06.279 --> 01:16:08.560
<v Speaker 1>amazing people, Grab some Chipotle. I'm a fan, by the way,

1556
01:16:09.000 --> 01:16:13.039
<v Speaker 1>go home, have some lunch, jump in the pool. That

1557
01:16:13.159 --> 01:16:17.720
<v Speaker 1>is it again, I don't want to diminish it by

1558
01:16:17.720 --> 01:16:19.960
<v Speaker 1>saying that seems like a simple goal, you know, but

1559
01:16:20.000 --> 01:16:23.439
<v Speaker 1>it's it's it's so beautiful and it's simplicity. I think

1560
01:16:23.479 --> 01:16:26.800
<v Speaker 1>a lot of times people like overlook how amazing that is.

1561
01:16:27.039 --> 01:16:29.079
<v Speaker 2>You know, so I want to I want to help.

1562
01:16:29.159 --> 01:16:30.880
<v Speaker 2>My goal is to help as many people Katie and

1563
01:16:30.920 --> 01:16:33.199
<v Speaker 2>I as the goals, help as many people like live

1564
01:16:33.239 --> 01:16:34.239
<v Speaker 2>that experience. Yeah.

1565
01:16:34.279 --> 01:16:35.960
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, And you.

1566
01:16:35.920 --> 01:16:40.520
<v Speaker 2>Know we were talking earlier about you know, doing this

1567
01:16:40.600 --> 01:16:43.680
<v Speaker 2>full time and be able to travel more and all

1568
01:16:43.720 --> 01:16:46.680
<v Speaker 2>those types of things. So we have goals around that,

1569
01:16:47.439 --> 01:16:51.319
<v Speaker 2>financial goals, health goals, but you know, from a from

1570
01:16:51.319 --> 01:16:56.479
<v Speaker 2>a business standpoint, and like the goal I'm most excited

1571
01:16:56.520 --> 01:16:58.159
<v Speaker 2>about right now is that.

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01:16:58.479 --> 01:17:01.199
<v Speaker 1>So that's amazing. And first of all, I just want

1573
01:17:01.239 --> 01:17:03.119
<v Speaker 1>to again thank you for being here.

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01:17:02.840 --> 01:17:03.560
<v Speaker 3>Sure, thank you for.

1575
01:17:03.560 --> 01:17:07.720
<v Speaker 1>Joining me the very first episode of Summerhouse with Sam.

1576
01:17:08.640 --> 01:17:10.880
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate so much. And we've talked about doing this

1577
01:17:10.920 --> 01:17:12.680
<v Speaker 1>for a long time. I know I've been been in

1578
01:17:12.760 --> 01:17:16.439
<v Speaker 1>your here for a long time. And actually, if you're

1579
01:17:16.439 --> 01:17:19.560
<v Speaker 1>listening or watching right now, Alan was one of the

1580
01:17:19.720 --> 01:17:22.039
<v Speaker 1>very first people. Actually he might have been the first

1581
01:17:22.079 --> 01:17:26.479
<v Speaker 1>person I'm not married to that I told that I

1582
01:17:26.520 --> 01:17:29.399
<v Speaker 1>am doing this Summerhouse thing. I am doing this can

1583
01:17:29.680 --> 01:17:32.880
<v Speaker 1>please please don't say I am so excited for you.

1584
01:17:32.960 --> 01:17:33.880
<v Speaker 1>Thank you, like.

1585
01:17:36.000 --> 01:17:39.000
<v Speaker 2>You're the right person doing the right thing at the

1586
01:17:39.079 --> 01:17:41.880
<v Speaker 2>right time. I appreciate that, and this is going to

1587
01:17:41.920 --> 01:17:43.560
<v Speaker 2>be great for you.

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01:17:43.720 --> 01:17:46.640
<v Speaker 1>I do. I appreciate that, and more than appreciate, I

1589
01:17:46.760 --> 01:17:50.079
<v Speaker 1>value that because that means a lot. You know, I

1590
01:17:50.119 --> 01:17:52.319
<v Speaker 1>am not everybody's cup of tea, or you know what

1591
01:17:52.359 --> 01:17:55.199
<v Speaker 1>I mean. I am a little different than a lot

1592
01:17:55.239 --> 01:17:57.880
<v Speaker 1>of the people that I know. But I enjoyed this

1593
01:17:58.159 --> 01:18:01.760
<v Speaker 1>so much. I love this so much, and let's just

1594
01:18:01.920 --> 01:18:02.600
<v Speaker 1>let's just see.

1595
01:18:02.479 --> 01:18:06.560
<v Speaker 2>Where we going. Different requires higher agency decision.

1596
01:18:06.319 --> 01:18:08.760
<v Speaker 1>Does it? I did not. I didn't know that, but

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01:18:09.119 --> 01:18:09.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm proud.

1598
01:18:09.800 --> 01:18:10.439
<v Speaker 2>I'll take that.

1599
01:18:10.680 --> 01:18:13.119
<v Speaker 1>I might put that on a shirt. Guys, think about it.

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01:18:13.760 --> 01:18:16.079
<v Speaker 1>High agency. Yes, you either get it or you don't.

1601
01:18:16.119 --> 01:18:18.279
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's like I got it there somebody who

1602
01:18:18.399 --> 01:18:20.560
<v Speaker 1>pointed me. All right. Now, if you know me, you

1603
01:18:20.640 --> 01:18:23.840
<v Speaker 1>know I love questions. I love questions of the day.

1604
01:18:23.960 --> 01:18:26.159
<v Speaker 1>I use them as part of my CrossFit classes as

1605
01:18:26.159 --> 01:18:29.600
<v Speaker 1>far as coaching, and I also enjoy this or that

1606
01:18:29.880 --> 01:18:32.800
<v Speaker 1>type of question. So we're going to play a quick version,

1607
01:18:33.359 --> 01:18:36.079
<v Speaker 1>a gen X version of this or that.

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01:18:36.159 --> 01:18:37.720
<v Speaker 3>Okay, there is no wrong answer.

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01:18:38.600 --> 01:18:40.880
<v Speaker 1>People listening or watching may not agree, but they're as

1610
01:18:40.880 --> 01:18:42.760
<v Speaker 1>far as I'm concerned, there is no wrong answer.

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01:18:42.800 --> 01:18:45.359
<v Speaker 2>Okay, all right, you're ready yeah, all right.

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01:18:45.319 --> 01:18:48.119
<v Speaker 1>As quickly as possible. And if I remember, guys, I'm

1613
01:18:48.159 --> 01:18:50.640
<v Speaker 1>going to put a ticking clock to this. Okay, ready,

1614
01:18:50.680 --> 01:18:51.880
<v Speaker 1>three to two one? Here we go.

1615
01:18:53.079 --> 01:18:58.159
<v Speaker 4>Sesame Street or Reading Rainbow, Reading Boom cassettes or CDs,

1616
01:18:58.239 --> 01:19:05.199
<v Speaker 4>CD BHS or DVD's Atari or Nintendo the A Team

1617
01:19:05.399 --> 01:19:06.359
<v Speaker 4>or night Writer.

1618
01:19:09.640 --> 01:19:12.079
<v Speaker 1>Tough one, right, you know.

1619
01:19:12.159 --> 01:19:17.439
<v Speaker 2>Night Writers down, it's just a Tesla eighteen or night

1620
01:19:17.479 --> 01:19:19.239
<v Speaker 2>Writer eighteen.

1621
01:19:19.359 --> 01:19:26.319
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Tupac or Biggie.

1622
01:19:25.119 --> 01:19:25.520
<v Speaker 2>Tupac.

1623
01:19:25.680 --> 01:19:30.760
<v Speaker 1>Alrighty Voltron or Transformers, it's a tough one.

1624
01:19:30.880 --> 01:19:31.439
<v Speaker 2>Transformer.

1625
01:19:31.600 --> 01:19:35.039
<v Speaker 1>Oh, that's tough. That's tough. Name brand or store brand,

1626
01:19:35.640 --> 01:19:38.760
<v Speaker 1>store brand Boom, that's what I'm talking about. Terminator or

1627
01:19:38.800 --> 01:19:46.399
<v Speaker 1>the Predator. We can even throw RoboCop in there if

1628
01:19:46.439 --> 01:19:46.960
<v Speaker 1>you want.

1629
01:19:49.399 --> 01:19:49.840
<v Speaker 2>Predator.

1630
01:19:50.199 --> 01:19:53.399
<v Speaker 1>And finally, and this is a big one, Jurassic Park

1631
01:19:53.600 --> 01:19:59.560
<v Speaker 1>or Rocky and I understand we have to get Katie

1632
01:20:00.239 --> 01:20:01.479
<v Speaker 1>watch Rocky.

1633
01:20:01.560 --> 01:20:02.039
<v Speaker 2>Is that girl?

1634
01:20:03.079 --> 01:20:05.199
<v Speaker 3>Sure she doesn't need to see it?

1635
01:20:05.199 --> 01:20:05.640
<v Speaker 2>You see that?

1636
01:20:05.720 --> 01:20:09.079
<v Speaker 1>Right? Okay? Let me ask you this then real quick,

1637
01:20:09.119 --> 01:20:12.079
<v Speaker 1>and we'll wrap this up. Favorite Rocky movie all time?

1638
01:20:15.399 --> 01:20:17.239
<v Speaker 1>Probably you can include the Creeds.

1639
01:20:17.079 --> 01:20:21.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, probably Rocky three.

1640
01:20:21.039 --> 01:20:22.239
<v Speaker 3>Oh, Clever Lang.

1641
01:20:22.600 --> 01:20:25.119
<v Speaker 1>It will always hold a special place in my heart.

1642
01:20:25.199 --> 01:20:26.840
<v Speaker 1>First movie ever saw in a movie theater.

1643
01:20:26.920 --> 01:20:30.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, for me, it was Apollo training rock Rocky and

1644
01:20:30.920 --> 01:20:34.600
<v Speaker 2>Apollo teaching Rocky that he can change.

1645
01:20:35.399 --> 01:20:36.920
<v Speaker 3>Did he have low agency?

1646
01:20:37.279 --> 01:20:40.399
<v Speaker 2>He did, Yeah, he did, but he developed the agency

1647
01:20:40.439 --> 01:20:41.079
<v Speaker 2>on the course of that.

1648
01:20:42.520 --> 01:20:43.399
<v Speaker 1>Guy's Rocky three.

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01:20:43.600 --> 01:20:45.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So you remember the scene where he finally clicked

1650
01:20:45.960 --> 01:20:48.000
<v Speaker 2>for him. There's a scene in the movie where he's

1651
01:20:48.079 --> 01:20:48.640
<v Speaker 2>running on the beach.

1652
01:20:49.399 --> 01:20:52.479
<v Speaker 1>There is no tomorrow that well, yeah, no, because he's like, tomorrow,

1653
01:20:52.600 --> 01:20:53.600
<v Speaker 1>we do tomorrow. No.

1654
01:20:53.800 --> 01:20:56.119
<v Speaker 3>Well, there's two scenes right, Well, no, there's the one

1655
01:20:56.119 --> 01:20:56.640
<v Speaker 3>with his wife.

1656
01:20:56.680 --> 01:20:59.000
<v Speaker 2>There's a woman his wife when he admits to her.

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01:20:58.920 --> 01:21:01.600
<v Speaker 1>Uh huh, he's he's afraid, very scared, right.

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01:21:01.680 --> 01:21:04.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So he finally took the mirror, looked back in

1659
01:21:04.359 --> 01:21:06.800
<v Speaker 2>the mirror and said, I'm afraid. Uh huh. And so

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01:21:06.920 --> 01:21:09.039
<v Speaker 2>he's do that, He's ready to go.

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01:21:09.600 --> 01:21:12.439
<v Speaker 1>I'm not watching right now. I literally just got chills, goosebumps,

1662
01:21:12.520 --> 01:21:14.119
<v Speaker 1>my arms. And I'll tell you why. He said, man

1663
01:21:14.159 --> 01:21:15.920
<v Speaker 1>in the mirror. You mentioned the mirror. There is a

1664
01:21:15.960 --> 01:21:19.439
<v Speaker 1>scene in the first Rocky where he is in his bathroom,

1665
01:21:19.439 --> 01:21:22.079
<v Speaker 1>in his tiny place and he is in front of

1666
01:21:22.119 --> 01:21:26.000
<v Speaker 1>the mirror just looking at himself. And there's a great scene.

1667
01:21:26.000 --> 01:21:30.319
<v Speaker 1>And again file this under the category you didn't ask

1668
01:21:30.319 --> 01:21:33.000
<v Speaker 1>what I'm telling you anyway. Right, there's a scene where

1669
01:21:33.039 --> 01:21:35.720
<v Speaker 1>he is in bed, laying there and he's saying all

1670
01:21:35.720 --> 01:21:37.800
<v Speaker 1>he wants to do is go the distance. He doesn't

1671
01:21:37.840 --> 01:21:42.079
<v Speaker 1>even need to win, he just wants to prove himself worthy.

1672
01:21:42.359 --> 01:21:45.479
<v Speaker 1>And I think, like, again, that gets me every time

1673
01:21:45.520 --> 01:21:48.279
<v Speaker 1>I've seen the movie a thousand times. That scene.

1674
01:21:49.600 --> 01:21:53.000
<v Speaker 2>Now, let's keep going. Okay, this is great, by the way,

1675
01:21:53.359 --> 01:21:57.399
<v Speaker 2>Before let's go, let's go Rocky too. After the birth

1676
01:21:57.439 --> 01:22:01.399
<v Speaker 2>of his baby, his wife says to him, there's only

1677
01:22:01.439 --> 01:22:03.079
<v Speaker 2>one thing I want from you from now. She's like

1678
01:22:03.159 --> 01:22:03.439
<v Speaker 2>to win.

1679
01:22:03.520 --> 01:22:03.720
<v Speaker 1>Win.

1680
01:22:04.279 --> 01:22:08.319
<v Speaker 2>So now his subconscious is in alignment with his conscious

1681
01:22:09.039 --> 01:22:10.960
<v Speaker 2>to win, not go the distance, but win.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Different, Yeah, absolutely.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, different, different story, different outcome.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And then moving into three, he's had the evolution

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<v Speaker 1>where he has been the success that he always knew

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<v Speaker 1>and others who loved him knew he could be the father,

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<v Speaker 1>the husband.

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<v Speaker 3>And then what happens It all gets taken away.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Mickey dies, he transitions.

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<v Speaker 3>Spoiler Sorry, I'm just kidding. It's been out for forty years.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and then he starts making low agency decisions because

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<v Speaker 2>his framework, his frame of reference is gone. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 2>now he's telling him telling, telling himself these stories that

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<v Speaker 2>are true.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't have to do this again with movies.

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<v Speaker 2>Just move.

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<v Speaker 3>We're just gonna talk movies.

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<v Speaker 1>That's all right, awesome, So again, mister Allen Thompson, did

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<v Speaker 1>I get that right? Thank you again for being the

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<v Speaker 1>very first guest on Summer House with Sam. It means

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<v Speaker 1>the world to me. I cannot even convey to you

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<v Speaker 1>how impactful this conversation has been. Guys, if you're listening,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you so much for joining us today. Mister Allen Thompson.

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<v Speaker 1>Where can listeners get more information about everything we discussed today?

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<v Speaker 2>Cheese Curson Coffee. H is our podcast name and our

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01:23:19.319 --> 01:23:22.159
<v Speaker 2>YouTube channel. Just search for Cheese, Curson Coffee, common spelling

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<v Speaker 2>and you'll find us and then build your proof on substack.

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<v Speaker 1>All right.

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<v Speaker 3>What about Mousetrap Fitness?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, if you're looking for a good workout and

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<v Speaker 2>you're in Orlando.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually come see us, Come see us, all right, come

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<v Speaker 1>see us as well as every other coach here does

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<v Speaker 1>a phenomenal job. Come meet the community. If you're in

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<v Speaker 1>the amazing Lake Buinnavista Florida area. And if you're like,

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<v Speaker 1>where's Lake Buinavista, Florida, It's the Disney side of Orlando.

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<v Speaker 1>Come on in say hello. We'd love for you to

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<v Speaker 1>join us for a workout. Guys, again, thank you so

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<v Speaker 1>much for listening. I have been sam ay Ella, thank

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<v Speaker 1>you for joining us here Summerhouse with Sam, Stay amazed.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll see you next time.
