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Speaker 1: Hello, everybody, Welcome to Summer House with Sam. I'm your host, Sam,

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I y Ella, and today I'm very blessed to be

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at one of my favorite places in the entire world,

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Mousetrap Fitness, the home of CrossFit Mousetrap. And not only

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am I here at this location recording the very first

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episode of Summerhouse with Sam, but I am joined by

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one of the owners of Mousetrap Fitness, the home a

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CrossFit Mousetrap, mister Allen Thompson. Hello, sir, doing very well,

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Thank you so much, and thank you for joining me

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here today.

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Speaker 2: My pleasure, and this is legit setup.

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Speaker 1: You literally owned the studio that we're currently and now,

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oh I do want to make sure I mentioned you

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are co owner, yes, of Mousetrap Fitness, the home across

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at Mousetrap, along with your amazing wife. Again, I want

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to thank you for joining me here today because Mousetrap,

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as you well know, means so much to me personally,

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as it does to so many other people as well. Yes,

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I have been a member and a coach here since

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the early early days of twenty sixteen. Okay, so now

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it's been well over a decade It's absolutely changed my life,

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and I want to just personally, we've got an opportunity

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to thank both you and Katie for that.

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Speaker 2: Well, thank you for being a great coach.

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Speaker 1: I'm happy to do it, happy to do it now.

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One of the things that I do want to touch

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on before we get into the serious, serious questions guys,

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is that you and I, I feel are similar in

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many ways.

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Speaker 2: A lot of ways. Yeah, I agree, And.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you know this or not, but

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you seem to be a quiet person.

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Speaker 3: Would you describe yourself as such?

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Speaker 2: Depends Yes, I can understand why you're saying that, but

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I think it depends on the topic the moment. I

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can go on my rants from time to time. I

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think I have a lot of opinions and thoughts that

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are you know, I say, unpopular or not in alignment

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with you know, typical societal norms, and I'm just trying

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to be you know, cognizant of that and respect people's

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time and effort and energy and all that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely. Now, when you say typical of societal norms, are

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there any specific things you're referring to.

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Speaker 2: I mean, one example that comes to mind when my

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wife and I first met and we started talking about

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gift giving. I just went on this whole sort of

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tirade about I don't you know holidays and how they

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become corporate sponsored events and you know, Christmas now, Christmas

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shopping is now authorised between August and December and all

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the things. And so we ended up setting a gift

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giving budget. Was this early on, like early on in

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our relationship, because the premise is basically, you don't have

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to wait for the holiday to forget the thing. True,

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They're just going to charge you more on February fourteenth, right,

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we can go get it on February.

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Speaker 1: Twelves, on February fifteenth.

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Speaker 2: The best time to buy Halloween candy is the day

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out November first, rant and raving about that. You know,

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I've kind of keeping myself or Katie, here's it, but

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that's like, that's probably typical.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know that makes me smile. And the reason

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why is because that is a very, if I may,

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a very gen x thing. It's thinking about how corporate

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American corporate greed have taken over holidays, things that were

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supposed to just be so fundamental, not necessarily basic, but

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just based on other things.

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Speaker 2: Do you do you I don't know if you had

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a similar experience. When I was a kid, my first

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job was at movie theater and I remember that they

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were looking for people to work on like half a

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day on Christmas, and my mom was like apocalyptic. She

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was like, you are not working on Christmas. It's it's

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a special day. They can go get somebody else. And

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I was like, I'm I was like okay. But because

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then back then most things were closed of course Christmas Day.

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this thing where we recognized the holiday and it was

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almost the exception to be open.

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Speaker 1: Now, yeah, people were shocked if something was open on Christmas.

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I get the maybe first half of Thanksgiving because everybody

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needs to run to the store for that one or

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two things they forgot they thought they had. And to

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that point, there were many, many years, especially being here

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in Orlando, being part of the hospitality industry, the parking

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industry specifically, where it's like, okay, you're working Christmas, And

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that industry, my wife and I just accepted it as

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part of you know, it is the way it is

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living here Orlando. Of course, living here, working where we do.

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I could have gone and got a different job somewhere

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that wasn't open on Christmas, but I didn't. Now it

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wasn't until much later, not very long ago. Actually that

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post CrossFit. To be honest with you, that I said,

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I'm not working Christmas Day any longer. And it wasn't

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so much because of or for me, or even for

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my wife, but it was more for other people that

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it who found it very important for us to be

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present on that day. Yeah, that makes sense, you know

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again going back to where gifts don't necessarily need to

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happen on major holidays, same thing. We can visit any time,

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but it's a little more special to people, sure, on

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those days. And if it means giving a little more

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of myself, then so be it. I'm a very selfish person,

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like a very very selfish person. But again, I do

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like making other people happiest me, so I want to

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make sure we do that now.

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Speaker 3: Gen X, yes or no?

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Speaker 1: You are to me a younger on the young side

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of Generation X, would you agree? Or I definitely fall

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into Gen X just based it's like a horoscope thing.

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You read your horoscope and you're like, well, that could

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you know, be for anyone, But it's entertaining gen X.

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I think many people have a lot of characteristics. You know,

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we don't trust the government or big business. You know,

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we're very focused on making sure that we're big impaths.

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they need, that sort of thing. But again, that could

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be anyone of any age. Technically, it just seems to

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land a little bit more for us. Now there's a

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specific reason I brought that up. That's why I have

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written note gen X and again similarities between us. People

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find you to be a quiet person. I did as well.

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How long have you and Katie owned Mousetrap Fitness twenty

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twenty shout out to Lex Olsen coach Lex, thank you again.

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Without an introduction between you guys, this may not be

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happening right now. So we're grateful there and maybe we'll

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save that story for a little bit later. But in addition,

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like so that's twenty twenty two, we're halfway through twenty

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twenty six now, so over four years now. Initially in

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meeting you, it was more of kind of a passing thing.

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Speaker 2: Though I wasn't coaching.

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Speaker 1: I was I was still a member and hit or

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miss attending classes that.

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Speaker 2: I think you would fill in from time to time.

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Speaker 1: So in meeting you, you seem like a very quiet person. Now,

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I like to challenge myself in being able to have

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a conversation with people, and I wish I would remember

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our very first conversation because it had to be something

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very surface level.

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Speaker 2: I imagine it was probably our wives that made us

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talk to each other or something. You know, like you

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the wives start dictating like relationship building, and like well,

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I'm just like, like my wife will say, Hi, this

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appropriate minds. She's vetted them right, right, right. She thinks

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this person might be yeah, you have their sealing approval,

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you may continue, right, And then so I'll be like, oh, okay,

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I'm not. I'm not an outgoing person by nature. So

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is Cindy, and there about our age.

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Speaker 1: For the rect of you guys, are I would say

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significantly younger, but thank you for that.

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Speaker 3: Anything more than a year to me is significantly younger.

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Speaker 1: No, And you know what, that's a good vetting process

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because I base a lot of things off vibe. But

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it seems cool, you know. Again, that is the extent

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of my analysis, you know. But in having conversations with you,

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I don't know at what point, And because even though

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I approach people, even though I talk a lot to

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the detriment of others, sometimes yeah, I am still guarded. Sure,

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and whatever information I you know, convey or share again

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gen x, you know, But like at some point it

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must have been and I really think it was some

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sort of pop culture conversation probably, you know. And one

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thing I absolutely remember talking to you about was the

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A Team. I'm talking about the original show from the eighties,

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the A Team, And then at some point we talked

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about Voltron. Now, if you're listening to this and you're like,

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how did I end up either with this as a

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YouTube recommendation or a recommendation for this podcast? Congratulations, you

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are of a certain age, okay, you know the A

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Team was early eighties Voltron was definitely early eighties. It

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was an animated show. There were two versions, and I'm

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going to ask him this question. Now, there were two versions.

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There was the lions and then there were the vehicles. Right,

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do you have a preference lions? Same? Same? Nice? Nice

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that makes you feel better? Man?

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Speaker 2: Did you see the remake they put on Netflix?

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Speaker 3: I saw that, I know of it.

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Speaker 1: I didn't watch.

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Speaker 2: You should watch?

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Speaker 1: Do you recommend highly? Folks? You hear that Netflix Voltron

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Speaker 2: A couple of years old now, but it was it

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was pretty good.

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Speaker 3: I love to hear it because that way I don't

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have to wait a week.

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Speaker 1: Remember, yeah, I could crank them all out in a

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weekend if I try hard enough. No. So at that

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point that actually, you know, for anybody to listen, that

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us getting to know each other, you know, and then

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from there we've had some pretty good conversation deep And

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I do want you to know I appreciate everyone because

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I would think that, you know, as large a community

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as Mousetrap Fitness has, you know, I know, sometimes we

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tend to click up a little bit, you know, Oh

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that's so and so spot or that's who so and

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so hangs out with you know, or oh, aren't they

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friends or aren't they dating?

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Speaker 3: Or whatever the case may be.

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Speaker 1: So, I know not everyone has had the privilege of

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the conversations that we have. Far beyond the A team

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and Voltron. You know, there have been some really like

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impactful conversations. You know, people may be wondering, like, who

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is this allan guy? Okay, he co owns mousetrap with

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his wife Katie, which is wonderful. It makes a big

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impact on me. You're not originally from Orlando.

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Speaker 2: Right, No? No, I grew up in Saint Louis.

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Speaker 1: Oh really, I don't think I realized that in Missouri.

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Speaker 2: Huh, grew up in St. Louis.

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Speaker 3: So you've seen the arch.

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Speaker 2: I've seen the Arch. I've been up in the I

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was gonna ask, have you been to the top? Yeah.

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They put in a little egg and they it's like

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an egg shaped thing and they at least it was

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I don't even know, forty years ago, Lewis. So my

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parents were in the military, met in the military. We

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Germany and then settled in Saint Louis. My parents got

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a divorce pretty early on in our time at Saint Louis.

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So single mom, three kids did the thing until I

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was called to do something else.

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Speaker 1: Okay, and how old were you when you were called

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to do something else?

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Speaker 2: Seventeen years old. I got on a plane to West Point,

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New York, having been back except to visit.

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Speaker 1: That's interesting, that's really interesting because I grew up not

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in Saint Louis. I grew up in It's called LaBelle

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Florida Guys La b e ll E Bell Home of

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the Fighting.

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Speaker 2: Cowboys co Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it is two stop lights. And I always have

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to preface it by saying, you know, I am grateful

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and appreciative having been raised there. Yep, I do not.

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I don't go back to visit. I still have family

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and if they absolutely needed me, and I know you're

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listening and watching right now, just text me and send

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me a signal that says, hey, come visit, and I will. Okay,

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But it's just in my opinion. You know, that was

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a part of a chapter in my life, yep. And

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I have moved on from that chapter. So again, I

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don't know if you feel the same way about Saint.

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Speaker 2: So there's no real reason to go back for me.

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The family kind of went our separate ways. Uh huh.

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brother he was in the Marine Corps, so he went

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out and did that thing. My sister was in the Navy.

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West Point, going off into the Army. So everyone kind

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of just dispersed.

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Speaker 1: And you mentioned west Point, New York. Yes, now, let

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me ask you this, what is in west Point, New.

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Speaker 3: York that drew you there? Don't think you're gonna be slick?

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Speaker 2: Got the United States Military Academy at west Point is

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at west Point.

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Speaker 3: So that's where you went to school.

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Speaker 2: That's where Yeah, that's where I went to school.

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Speaker 1: That's amazing and that is beyond a flex. Okay, is

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it absolutely for someone who has only heard of west

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this guy right here, you know how amazing a flex

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that is to be like, yeah, I went to west Point.

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But the fact that you don't use it as such

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is even more impressive to be because I would be

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wearing a shirt that said I went to west Point

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twenty four to seven I'd work out in it.

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Speaker 3: I'd wear it to church.

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Speaker 1: I don't even go to church, but I would wear

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it there just so people be like, well, he served

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at like the most amazing frigging military academy that there is.

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Sorry Navy, and sorry, I'm just saying it's pretty impressive.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 3: I never and that's again, very big of you, man,

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if you don't.

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Speaker 2: I just think it was like the expectation for us

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as kids, like you're gonna go and you're gonna do

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well in school and be you're gonna likely you're going

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to go to the military. And that's why we had

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so many of us go to the military. So my

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brother ended up going to the Naval Academy.

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Speaker 1: He was like a year in Annapolis.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and he got so many you know, kudos

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and this, that and the other. Thing about it was like, well,

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I can do that.

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Speaker 3: If he did it, you can do it, right.

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Speaker 2: That was sort of the thing that was going on. So,

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but I don't know, it was always an expectation for

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us to do well, do well in school, and go

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if not go to one of the academies, go to

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RTC or something to do well.

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Speaker 1: So well, let me ask you this. Do you know

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the acceptance rate for West Point?

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Speaker 2: I couldn't even tell you.

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Speaker 1: It's got to be it's got to be like very limited,

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very small, you know. No, So again that's amazing and

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again and a flex you know, whether you think so

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or not. Yeah, I'm telling you I'd wear I'd be

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gifting people. Hey, a guy who gave you this shirt

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went to West Point, you know, like the whole deal.

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Like absolutely, so kudos again.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: And not only are you an entrepreneur, right, not only

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are you co owner here at Mousetrap Fitness Home a

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crust mouse Rap, but you're all you also have another

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job I do you're Let me make sure I hit

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Google correctly. It has you as the chief operating officer.

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Speaker 2: Right, that's correct. Yep. For rip it Sports, Yep, that's correct.

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Speaker 1: Can you tell me a little bit of about rip

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it So, by the way, is not sponsoring this podcast,

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but I'm just throwing it out there.

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Speaker 2: Rip it is a sporting goods company that sells products

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for specifically female athletes and female athletes only. So we

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are in softball, volleyball, tested some things in soccer, but

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primarily softball volleyball, and we own a couple of brands.

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We own the tax A car volleyball brand, the Ringer

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softball cleat brand, and then you have the RiPP It brand.

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And yeah, where you can find us at Dick Sporting Goods.

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Speaker 1: And don't be afraid to throw commercial out there. It

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didn't bother me one bit. Yeah, he if you sell

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one set of cleats, I'm taking that as a win.

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Speaker 3: No, that's amazing.

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Speaker 1: And again from Sting, ended up ended up at West

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Point right. You went to school there.

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Speaker 2: Spent some time in the army, so I did five

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minutes five years active duty, did a couple of years

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in the reserves. So I ended up being activated from

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the reserves and deploying two Iraq for a year. Technically,

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diployment was a little bit longer than the year because

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they got to train you up and do all that

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kind of stuff. So overall eight years service and yeah,

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in the military.

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Speaker 1: Now I'm just smiling because I okay, so veteran, let's

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throw that on there too. I didn't even think about it.

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You went to the military academy, obviously served, you were deployed,

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so you're a veteran again.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for your service, absolutely.

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Speaker 1: And you did all of these things, then you end

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up in Orlando.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is.

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Speaker 1: Again, this is one of those things.

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Speaker 3: This is one of those things.

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Speaker 1: So this is when you're you're hearing a story and

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then there was a jump and then here we are. Oh.

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Speaker 2: After I got out of the military, I kind of

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bounced around.

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Speaker 1: I didn't quite know work wise, job kind of thing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't quite know what to do with myself.

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So I just made some random goal about making as

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much money as I could. It felt like the right

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thing to do at the time. I said, well, I'll

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just try and make six figures as quickly as I can.

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So that meant get a special skill and then change

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companies every eighteen months or two years.

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Speaker 1: So you needed your thought process was developed one specific

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special skill and then utilize that to allow you to

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jump around to different business or like to work for

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a different companies. Right.

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Speaker 2: I think that was a prevailing sort of career strategy

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at the time, like get really good at one thing

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and then levers at one thing from company to company.

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Speaker 1: And so people have a general idea about what year,

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what timeframe.

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Speaker 2: Oh, this is two thousand and five.

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, so early in the two thousands yeah,

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I consider that, earl.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So yeah, so I ended up had I had

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a sort of a mindset. I think the military helped

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me do this for operation that led me to a

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manager job. They were offering training on the six sigma

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process improvement stuff, and I took a couple of because

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I worked a couple of projects I did pretty well,

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they said, hey, you should do this full time. I

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was like, how much does it pay? They said eighty

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eighty thousand or ninety thousand. I was like, that's closer

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to six figures.

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Speaker 1: So I.

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Speaker 2: Remember, I ended up buying a six Sigma for Dummies

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book and my two little projects that I've worked, and

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flew up to corporate office in Seattle for an interview

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and nailed it. And it happened to be interviewing with

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a naval academy.

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Speaker 1: No way.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's all you need, so you need.

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Speaker 2: To do so they said, yeah, you're good. So now

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I just spent the bulk of my career was centered

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around improving processes, finding waste, eliminating or sorry, driving efficiency,

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that type of thing.

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Speaker 3: So that so and again you'll have to forgive me.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so six sigma, can you tell us what is

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six sigma.

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Speaker 3: So what is six sigma?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so basically it's a level of quality that is

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very difficult to get to, but you're trying to achieve, right,

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So the technical definitions three point one four approximately three

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point one four defects per million opportunity. So if there's

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a if you have a million opportunities to make a thing,

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or there's a million parts to making something, you're only

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allowed to have three point one for defects per million opportunities,

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million opportunities. It is very expensive to get to that

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level of quality, so you typically only see it in

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like low corporate medical devices or whatever. But it's just

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a methodology that provides a framework on how to achieve

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that level quality.

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Speaker 1: Okay, and the company that you were hired into without

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naming the company itself, what what did they do? What

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did they manufacture?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? They were they were a manufacturing company. Was a

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company called at the time, a company called pack are

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They ordered They owned a company called Peter Built, which

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makes eighteen years Excuse me, I didn't know anything about

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making eighteen wheelers, but they were just looking for someone

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who could, you know, manage a team, which I could

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certainly do. So, Yeah, so I just got really smart

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and six sigma and process improvement and a bunch of tools.

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Speaker 1: Had you ever admitted prior to this conversation that you

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bought a book on it, just studied the book and

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then just went for the interview.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sure I've told somebody we need.

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Speaker 1: To know that, right, but it just let I mean,

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opportunities out there if you're willing to make it for yourself. Absolutely. Yeah,

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and that is one like exactly what you just described.

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Speaker 2: I can remember thinking I'm not qualified for this job.

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But again, my focus was singular on you know, how

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do I get to that six figure number, because at

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the time it was like this magical you know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, a trillion? Right, Yeah, I understand that too. I

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absolutely understand that too. So you worked for them, you

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stayed there or did you do what you'd had in mind,

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which was jumping from one opportunity to another every couple

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few years.

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Speaker 2: I ended up working for them for about in that

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role for eighteen months or so, and then I went

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to a different company in a different state, similar role,

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but just higher pay. Company called from Micah Countertop. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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well like Kleenex, right, yeah, yeah, I had no idea,

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and then I just thought it was the you know

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that stuff that.

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Speaker 2: Count of top stuff now and it's the actual company.

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Speaker 1: I was father in laws freaking out as he's listening

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to this because he is like in construction, so he's

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probably rolling his eyes right now.

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Speaker 3: Sorry, Phil, all right.

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Speaker 2: I was only I was only there for a few

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months because I was a part of a reserve unit

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that got activated. So now I'm going to Iraq, which

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was you know, interesting in the whole story in itself.

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And yeah, yeah, but so while I'm deployed.

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Speaker 1: Sorry, man, I just think it's fascinating. Yeah, so then

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I had to go to war. I'll be back.

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Speaker 3: It's amazing.

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Speaker 1: Meanwhile, I'm just twiddling my thumbs hanging out, you know

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that kind of stuff. But it's impressive because I know

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it helps develop who you are as a person. Sure,

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so you had you got deployed.

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Speaker 2: Got deployed, and I make it. I guess I'm pretty

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blase about it. It was a while ago at the time. Yeah,

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I can remember sitting on a cot in Kuwait right

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before we're supposed to, you know, cross the border on

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the helicopters, and I'm like, you know, you know, let's go,

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no go. This is really when you yeah, when you

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cross the border, it's gonna be people shooting at you.

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And you know, so it got it got real, real,

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real real. But you know, we you know, got out

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of helicopters, We landed in and we did our job.

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Everyone went over that, came back and came home. So

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by all counts, it was a successful deployment. But so

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while I'm deployed, you know, came up on that time,

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00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:43,559
what do I want to do next with my career?

475
00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:47,279
You start seeing all these opportunities while you're over there, contractors,

476
00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:49,559
d O D, government jobs, et cetera. So I'm like,

477
00:22:50,039 --> 00:22:51,519
you know, I could take this six sigma thing and

478
00:22:51,599 --> 00:22:55,359
leverage it with the Department Defense potentially started looking at jobs,

479
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and it turns out that the Pentagon was looking for

480
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a six sigma certified people to come in and do

481
00:23:01,279 --> 00:23:03,279
the same type of work. You know, I don't know

482
00:23:03,279 --> 00:23:05,480
if people know this Department of Defense, among other things,

483
00:23:05,519 --> 00:23:08,680
it's a it's a business. So they buy, they sell,

484
00:23:09,279 --> 00:23:12,079
they move, equipment, all the things. So ended up going

485
00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:14,599
and working for the Department Defense for a while doing

486
00:23:14,599 --> 00:23:19,720
a six sigma thing. And I finally achieved my figures

487
00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:23,279
at twenty eight eight at twenty eight, So then that's

488
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to be applauded.

489
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Speaker 1: That's great because this is fascinating to me, Like what

490
00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:30,680
keeps pushing you? I know you had the goal of

491
00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:33,480
six figures? But was that like a driving force the

492
00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,200
entire time up to that point? Up till twenty eight.

493
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Speaker 2: Well, we had been I grew up pretty you know

494
00:23:39,519 --> 00:23:42,400
poor in some cases. I knew, like we shopped at

495
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:45,359
Payless and all that stuff, and we didn't have Nikes.

496
00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:47,839
We had psych Psyche's or they.

497
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Speaker 1: Had the most amazing pair of black plastic shoes with

498
00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:55,000
a little silver metal tip. I got it Payless, Okay, amazing. Yeah,

499
00:23:55,039 --> 00:23:58,759
so I'm right there with you man and so sch shoes, yes.

500
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Speaker 2: And I just I didn't want to be in that,

501
00:24:00,799 --> 00:24:04,200
you know position again, you know what I mean. So

502
00:24:04,279 --> 00:24:07,200
it was just like, how do I, you know, make

503
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:09,359
as much money as I can? You know, I did

504
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,519
not understand how I needed to. I didn't know how

505
00:24:11,559 --> 00:24:12,480
to keep that money.

506
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Speaker 1: But nobody ever talked about keeping it, right, that was

507
00:24:16,519 --> 00:24:17,799
the whole goal up to that point.

508
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Speaker 2: Yeah, right, So looking back on it, like that was

509
00:24:20,079 --> 00:24:22,359
I think the first I have a little fallacy. I

510
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:24,720
don't know if you've ever heard that arrival fallacy. It's

511
00:24:24,759 --> 00:24:27,000
this idea that once you you set a goal, you

512
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,799
achieved the goal, but you're not happy. You suddenly looking

513
00:24:29,799 --> 00:24:31,440
around going okay, like, now what do I do?

514
00:24:31,559 --> 00:24:33,319
Speaker 1: Yeah? Well, it's funny that you say that, because I

515
00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:34,480
call that now what?

516
00:24:34,839 --> 00:24:35,119
Speaker 3: Now what?

517
00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:37,400
Speaker 1: Okay, you made it, so now what? And people, I

518
00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:40,319
think need to plan for that moment. Yes, you know,

519
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:42,200
okay what happens when you get there? A lot of

520
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:45,119
people are like, well, onto the next thing, enjoy the moment,

521
00:24:45,559 --> 00:24:47,920
celebrate it, then move on to the next thing. Yourself

522
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:49,599
a time frame it, don't don't give yourself a ten

523
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:50,880
year time frame to enjoy it.

524
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:52,400
Speaker 2: I have a slightly different theory.

525
00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:52,960
Speaker 1: Let me hear it.

526
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,039
Speaker 2: You have to begin to enjoy the process.

527
00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:57,359
Speaker 1: Okay. I like that.

528
00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, the joy part of it up to that.

529
00:24:59,319 --> 00:25:01,160
Speaker 2: The joy is in the work, the j always in

530
00:25:01,279 --> 00:25:04,839
the doing, not the achieving, because you may may not

531
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:05,759
ever achieve the thing.

532
00:25:06,599 --> 00:25:07,119
Speaker 1: I like that.

533
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,839
Speaker 2: I like that, and that's what I love about CrossFit.

534
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:13,599
It's like it doesn't really matter where I'm at on

535
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:15,960
the leader board, if I make some of my quarter

536
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:19,640
finals or whatever, I get joy out of just the

537
00:25:19,839 --> 00:25:22,759
doing the running. Like I might set a goal, but

538
00:25:22,839 --> 00:25:25,640
it's not like you know, I think I talked about

539
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:28,000
this on one of our podcast episodes about missing a goal.

540
00:25:28,279 --> 00:25:30,720
It's more about I got up, I said I was

541
00:25:30,759 --> 00:25:32,759
going to do the thing. I did the thing, and

542
00:25:32,799 --> 00:25:35,680
I enjoyed doing the thing regardless of what happens though,

543
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,160
as far as the outcome goes well.

544
00:25:38,079 --> 00:25:41,920
Speaker 1: And I apologize for not mentioning this sooner. Yes, mention

545
00:25:42,039 --> 00:25:42,559
your podcast.

546
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 2: Oh, my wife and I have a podcast called Cheese

547
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:45,680
Curds and Coffee.

548
00:25:45,839 --> 00:25:46,680
Speaker 3: Cheese Kurts and Coffee.

549
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:50,279
Speaker 1: Guys, go subscribe right now, YouTube and wherever your audio

550
00:25:50,319 --> 00:25:53,079
podcasts are available, all right, make sure it happens. Yeah,

551
00:25:53,519 --> 00:25:56,599
And to me, that's also fascinating because and I'll jump

552
00:25:56,599 --> 00:25:58,960
back into the other part too, but it's fascinating because

553
00:25:59,599 --> 00:26:03,599
most people don't realize or haven't had a very long,

554
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,440
in depth conversation with you, Yeah, so that they may

555
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:10,279
be surprised when you are willing to talk so much

556
00:26:10,319 --> 00:26:12,359
and so frequently. Let me just ask you this and

557
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:14,640
then we'll move on on this specific thing. Is is

558
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:17,279
it that are you waiting for people to approach you,

559
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:20,279
to initiate a conversation, or do you just not talk

560
00:26:20,319 --> 00:26:20,720
to people?

561
00:26:21,039 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 3: And that's a fair question, I think.

562
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,160
Speaker 2: So when I'm in the when I'm in the gym,

563
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:27,359
I'm usually doing something.

564
00:26:27,839 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 1: And for the record, if you're not watching right now,

565
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,960
Alan Thompson is jacked, Okay, let me just say that too.

566
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:35,240
You know what, bro, I wouldn't even wear the West

567
00:26:35,279 --> 00:26:37,160
Point shirt because I'd be walking around with no shirt

568
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:38,359
on all the time. Like I'd be going to the

569
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:39,759
grocery store. I say, you need a shirt one?

570
00:26:39,759 --> 00:26:41,000
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, I.

571
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:42,519
Speaker 1: Get it, and people are like, I'm not gonna go

572
00:26:42,559 --> 00:26:42,880
over there.

573
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 3: He's in the middle of a set.

574
00:26:44,079 --> 00:26:44,920
Speaker 1: He's doing this thing.

575
00:26:45,039 --> 00:26:45,279
Speaker 2: You know.

576
00:26:45,599 --> 00:26:47,720
Speaker 1: I'm just that guy who's like, what whatever.

577
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:50,680
Speaker 2: I'm listening to an audiobook more I trying to solve

578
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,720
a question that I have in my mind, you know,

579
00:26:53,799 --> 00:26:57,039
between sets. So it's like my workout time is like

580
00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:00,880
working out and I'm swimming up the river stream trying

581
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:04,279
to figure something out. So I try to It's not

582
00:27:04,319 --> 00:27:08,359
that I don't approach people, It's just that I'm consumed selfishly,

583
00:27:08,519 --> 00:27:10,799
yeah about what you know, things like that, going.

584
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:13,200
Speaker 1: And you're allowed, you know it, it's your time, right,

585
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:16,680
and going back into enjoying the process. You know, we

586
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:18,640
have both known a lot of people who have taken

587
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:22,640
up running, maybe as an accessory to CrossFit overall and

588
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:24,599
getting a CrossFit or to run. You know how difficult

589
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:26,799
challenging that can be, right course of course, of course,

590
00:27:26,839 --> 00:27:29,200
But every once in a while it'll go in waves

591
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,480
and you'll see people like I'm gonna do this half marathon,

592
00:27:31,559 --> 00:27:33,039
or I'm going to sign up for this marathon or

593
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,440
Dopey Challenge and all this kind of stuff. And I

594
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:38,920
think people, again, they just want to have other people

595
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:42,640
suffering together in a positive way. I'm gonna sign up too,

596
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,319
so they'll continue to do that. But I like to

597
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:49,400
let folks know, hey, enjoy everything up to the race itself.

598
00:27:49,799 --> 00:27:51,759
But the race is the celebration for all the hard

599
00:27:51,799 --> 00:27:54,799
work that you put in, so enjoy it along the way,

600
00:27:54,839 --> 00:27:56,640
the good days, the bad days, the days you're like

601
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,279
I'm never doing that again, or the days that you

602
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:02,160
just ran your peace are. I think it's very important

603
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:05,519
to just appreciate and value that before you get to

604
00:28:05,599 --> 00:28:06,359
your finish line.

605
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:06,880
Speaker 2: Absolutely.

606
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 1: Now, you mentioned just a bit ago that you listen

607
00:28:09,319 --> 00:28:10,440
to audio books.

608
00:28:10,559 --> 00:28:11,839
Speaker 2: I do obsessively.

609
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,799
Speaker 1: And how many audiobooks would you say you've listened to?

610
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 2: I think my I think my audio library is up

611
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:20,839
to two hundred.

612
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 1: That's amazing, that's amazing.

613
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,880
Speaker 3: I'm not laughing at you because it's just amazing.

614
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:28,400
Speaker 1: Now, two hundred and eighty.

615
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:30,359
Speaker 3: Again, I put that on the back of the shirt.

616
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:32,519
There's gonna be all. It's gonna be like NASCAR. When

617
00:28:32,519 --> 00:28:33,799
you're done, you're gonna have the West.

618
00:28:33,599 --> 00:28:36,119
Speaker 1: Point thing on the front. Two hundred eighty audio books

619
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:39,200
on the back. Just all kinds of deployment. But okay,

620
00:28:39,279 --> 00:28:41,359
so do you recall the very first one that you

621
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:41,799
listened to?

622
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 2: Sure? So, to make a long story short, after the Pentagon,

623
00:28:47,319 --> 00:28:50,319
after I left the Pentagon, started a business that lasted

624
00:28:50,799 --> 00:28:53,119
twelve minutes, maybe a little bit longer than twelve minutes.

625
00:28:53,279 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 3: Fift Again, I'm not I'm not laughing at the time.

626
00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:00,200
Speaker 1: It's because I know how far you've come and so

627
00:29:00,279 --> 00:29:02,440
in that in that time, I know it had to

628
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:03,759
be very difficult for you.

629
00:29:03,839 --> 00:29:05,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a it was a weird story if

630
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,599
you had time for it. So I am in and

631
00:29:08,599 --> 00:29:10,880
at a theater for my job. So I'm back and

632
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:14,079
forth to Iraq. I probably took the flight from DC

633
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:18,200
to Kuwait half a dozen times, and I'm just kind

634
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:22,319
of getting burned out about it. And I remember I

635
00:29:22,359 --> 00:29:24,079
was out there by myself. I was out of the

636
00:29:24,119 --> 00:29:27,200
military specifically, but I was. I was doing this. I

637
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:30,240
was a GS civilian for the d D, so I

638
00:29:30,279 --> 00:29:33,839
traveled a lot by myself. And so I'm in Kuwait

639
00:29:34,119 --> 00:29:36,400
or I'm in Iraq, I'm working on a project. I'm

640
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:40,400
counting containers and doing all this other stuff. And a

641
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:45,480
rocket attack starts and normally alarms go off, and there's

642
00:29:45,519 --> 00:29:48,880
this anti machine that starts firing to shoot down the

643
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:53,480
rockets coming into the camp. And the protocol is you

644
00:29:53,559 --> 00:29:56,880
supposed to get up, grab your gear, head to a bunker,

645
00:29:57,519 --> 00:29:59,799
right because there are live rounds coming into the camp

646
00:30:00,039 --> 00:30:05,400
to try and kill you. And I, for whatever reason,

647
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,319
I decided not to get out of bed. And I

648
00:30:07,359 --> 00:30:10,400
was just like, I'm not getting up, even though every

649
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:12,799
day alarms going off, this, that, and the other thing.

650
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 1: Now, let me try to set the scene because again,

651
00:30:17,559 --> 00:30:20,160
I hear fireworks in the backyard yep. So you're hearing

652
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:23,359
all this stuff happening around you, yep, and you're just

653
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:23,960
laying there.

654
00:30:24,119 --> 00:30:26,519
Speaker 2: I'm just laying there. I think, I like.

655
00:30:27,039 --> 00:30:28,839
Speaker 1: Hands behind your head, kind of laying on the pillow

656
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:30,200
kind of thing. You know.

657
00:30:30,359 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 2: I was in bed and I was thinking to myself,

658
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:34,119
doesn't matter if I get up or not.

659
00:30:34,279 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 1: Okay, why did it not matter to you at that moment?

660
00:30:37,119 --> 00:30:39,319
Speaker 2: I don't know. It's a good question, Like I just

661
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:44,559
I didn't care. You get so accustomed to like this

662
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:46,799
wasn't like a one off thing, like until we're coming

663
00:30:46,839 --> 00:30:49,440
into the camp. It was a pretty irregular occurrence, so

664
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:53,240
you're desensitized to this. In retrospect, I started thinking about,

665
00:30:53,359 --> 00:30:54,960
like why thinking it up? Out of that out of

666
00:30:55,000 --> 00:31:00,559
that bed, and you know, you start thinking about you know,

667
00:31:01,079 --> 00:31:04,240
you're seventeen years old, you're at West Point, you're on

668
00:31:04,319 --> 00:31:06,400
a run, and one of the first things they teach

669
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,319
it was how to sing cadence when you're out on

670
00:31:08,319 --> 00:31:10,400
a run. So you guys sing together and you start

671
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:15,319
singing about like, you know, death and your death, all

672
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,920
to prepare you for a life that you're about to

673
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:22,960
go into where people dying is it's part of the business.

674
00:31:23,279 --> 00:31:25,480
It's sad, it's terrible, but it happens, right.

675
00:31:25,519 --> 00:31:29,279
Speaker 1: So letting you know that it's more than just a possibility, correct, right, that.

676
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 3: It's a reality.

677
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,559
Speaker 2: So anyway, so I get up. The next day, three

678
00:31:33,559 --> 00:31:37,079
people were killed during the artillery, one of them getting

679
00:31:37,079 --> 00:31:39,200
out of the shower, and I thought to myself, like,

680
00:31:39,319 --> 00:31:41,079
why didn't I get about it? Is like that could

681
00:31:41,079 --> 00:31:42,519
have been me. Why didn't I go and go to

682
00:31:42,519 --> 00:31:46,200
a bunker? I was like, am I so desensitized to

683
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,279
this stuff now that it doesn't even motivate me to

684
00:31:48,279 --> 00:31:50,359
get out of bed? And the answer was yes, obviously.

685
00:31:50,559 --> 00:31:52,960
About two weeks later I put my put in my

686
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,519
two week notice and decided I was going to start

687
00:31:55,519 --> 00:31:58,440
this business that I had read one book called Emaith revisited.

688
00:31:58,759 --> 00:32:01,400
It wasn't audible. It's like old school, burn through all

689
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,279
my savings running this business.

690
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 1: And so what was the business itself?

691
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 2: So it was I think Uber, maybe Uber was just

692
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:11,839
starting or something like that. But what the idea was

693
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:16,759
to provide personal trainers to businesses. So basically we would

694
00:32:16,839 --> 00:32:20,680
vet personal trainers and big wigs or rich people would

695
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:22,480
come into town, stay at a hotel. They want a

696
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:25,519
personal trainer, yoga instructor or whatever whatever. There was also

697
00:32:26,079 --> 00:32:29,000
office buildings that wanted to offer a service were like, hey,

698
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,440
you work in our office building, we can have you.

699
00:32:31,599 --> 00:32:34,359
We can have a personal trainer come and do personal

700
00:32:34,359 --> 00:32:38,559
training with you. So our job was to get the trainers,

701
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:42,160
manage the trainers, and then deploy them to the different opportunities.

702
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,960
So that was the that was the business idea. So

703
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:48,519
most of that was you know, me doing me doing

704
00:32:48,519 --> 00:32:51,440
the training, and at the time, my partner, my girlfriend

705
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:53,039
at the time, she would do some of the training.

706
00:32:53,519 --> 00:32:55,400
But then we couldn't get to all of it. So

707
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,200
then we had to bring on some training and all

708
00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,200
that kind of stuff. But you know, we hired too

709
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:01,359
fast and too much money and empty.

710
00:33:01,039 --> 00:33:05,799
Speaker 1: The expansion, right, yeah, the expansion. So okay, you how

711
00:33:05,799 --> 00:33:09,200
old were you at this time? Okay, that's a young man.

712
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:10,839
I mean you're still a young man now, but you

713
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,160
know that's a young man right there. All right, So

714
00:33:13,559 --> 00:33:18,960
twenty nine. At what point? What happens from twenty nine

715
00:33:19,839 --> 00:33:24,759
to two thousand and twenty two? I believe April, did

716
00:33:24,759 --> 00:33:28,400
I say that right? Twenty twenty two? Because I find

717
00:33:29,279 --> 00:33:32,599
just based on you know, the limited time we've interacted

718
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:36,240
over the past four years, like you seem very very

719
00:33:36,279 --> 00:33:40,400
disciplined to me, very structured and it always fascinates me.

720
00:33:40,519 --> 00:33:42,960
And more than that, I'm always impressed by it because

721
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:46,279
I am the complete opposite.

722
00:33:46,119 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 3: Of that, you know, And so I've fooled you. I'll

723
00:33:50,759 --> 00:33:52,119
take it. You're doing a great job.

724
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:56,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, because again just based off you know, our conversations

725
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:59,039
or you know, I see your social media posts and

726
00:33:59,359 --> 00:34:02,680
they're always impressive. You know, I'm always able to take

727
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:07,559
a nugget of information, and so it's just like seeing

728
00:34:07,559 --> 00:34:12,679
someone having similar beliefs. I think, you know, similar backgrounds,

729
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:17,280
both being married, and so I see that, Hey, you know,

730
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:22,000
good grades, you know, West Point Military, served big time jobs,

731
00:34:22,079 --> 00:34:25,119
you know what I mean. Impressive, you know, and so

732
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:30,000
to see something not work out for you, I'm always like, well,

733
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,480
how did that happen? Now you're mentioning the too big,

734
00:34:32,519 --> 00:34:35,960
too soon kind of thing, you know, with the business

735
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,559
that you had, so you know, like where do you

736
00:34:38,599 --> 00:34:39,239
go after that?

737
00:34:39,599 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 2: So you can pick any place you want to move?

738
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,760
Ended up moving down here to Orlando, Okay. Eventually got

739
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,880
a job at rip It because I said to myself,

740
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,199
I want to be an entrepreneur.

741
00:34:51,639 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 1: I think you knew that it was still that hunger

742
00:34:54,039 --> 00:34:54,519
was still in there.

743
00:34:54,599 --> 00:34:56,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I think I had gotten burned out of

744
00:34:56,679 --> 00:34:59,800
the government and the DoD and just working.

745
00:35:00,039 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 1: I mean, you can call that a major corporation, right,

746
00:35:03,559 --> 00:35:04,440
you know.

747
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,559
Speaker 2: And and I'd spent some time in bigger companies and

748
00:35:07,599 --> 00:35:10,360
it just became clear to me that that was not

749
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:14,400
the right place for me to be successful. So I

750
00:35:14,519 --> 00:35:18,000
ended up looking for people that I could learn from,

751
00:35:18,039 --> 00:35:22,760
to entrepreneurs. And so when I was looking for jobs,

752
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:27,559
I was just looking to leverage my six sigma training

753
00:35:28,639 --> 00:35:31,199
in a in a you know, smaller company. And that

754
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,519
meant the you know, six figure dream kind of went

755
00:35:34,559 --> 00:35:37,440
away because again I had achieved that goal and quote,

756
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,920
I wasn't happy, right, So I ended up here in Orlando.

757
00:35:41,079 --> 00:35:45,960
I started with rip it, and I met the Postings,

758
00:35:46,039 --> 00:35:49,159
the two brothers who started the company, and just leaned

759
00:35:49,159 --> 00:35:51,000
in to try and understand, like how were they so

760
00:35:51,039 --> 00:35:54,199
successful at running a small business? And they know this,

761
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,199
But I tried to, you know, steal every idea.

762
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:56,519
Speaker 1: You know.

763
00:35:56,599 --> 00:35:58,159
Speaker 2: The plan was to steal every idea I could and

764
00:35:58,199 --> 00:35:59,639
then go do my own thing. And I was like

765
00:36:00,039 --> 00:36:00,880
teen years ago.

766
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:05,199
Speaker 1: And so at what point and I am piggybacking off

767
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:08,119
a social media posts that you had recently? I understand

768
00:36:08,159 --> 00:36:10,519
that one of the books audio books that you listened

769
00:36:10,599 --> 00:36:12,559
to was let me make sure I'm reading this right,

770
00:36:13,199 --> 00:36:17,000
the Seven Habits of Highly Affected People. Yes, And how

771
00:36:17,039 --> 00:36:17,880
did that impact you?

772
00:36:19,159 --> 00:36:21,320
Speaker 2: Well? So, just to give you some context when that

773
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:23,239
book was sort of introduced to me, right, it's all

774
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:28,360
about I think impact is about timing and your willingness

775
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:33,480
or your ability to absorb information. So I had hit

776
00:36:33,559 --> 00:36:36,800
my proverbial rock bottom. So I think you know you

777
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:41,239
you you gave me the compliment that I was very

778
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:44,400
I'm very disciplined and successful. But that's really only true

779
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,920
in like one aspect of my life right at the time. Okay,

780
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:52,159
so I did well and structured environments like the military,

781
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:55,639
like the military, like school, I could, you know, you

782
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:57,760
tell me what I'm being assessed against? And I can,

783
00:36:58,000 --> 00:36:59,880
I can, I can reach that, I can, I can

784
00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:04,000
get evaluations those sorts of things. Looking back on my life,

785
00:37:04,039 --> 00:37:07,719
anytime I was outside of a structured system, I was

786
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:11,800
all over the place, personal relationships, running a business. I

787
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:15,599
didn't have a structure, and I was terrible in that space.

788
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:17,679
Speaker 1: And do you remember having that realization.

789
00:37:18,079 --> 00:37:21,119
Speaker 2: I remember having that realization later in life, but not

790
00:37:21,159 --> 00:37:23,719
at that moment, not then when I was in it,

791
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:25,960
I was just in it. I'm just fighting fires and

792
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:29,079
paying bills and swimming upstream, right, you know, you know,

793
00:37:29,199 --> 00:37:29,760
doing the thing.

794
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:33,360
Speaker 1: And for anybody listening or watching, you know, that's what

795
00:37:33,519 --> 00:37:34,079
if you're in it.

796
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:34,599
Speaker 2: Yeah.

797
00:37:34,679 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Because people see people and they see them successful.

798
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:40,800
Speaker 3: They only know the the post.

799
00:37:40,519 --> 00:37:41,679
Speaker 1: Finish line, right, Yeah.

800
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:43,519
Speaker 3: They don't see everything they had to deal with prior

801
00:37:43,519 --> 00:37:43,760
to that.

802
00:37:44,039 --> 00:37:50,119
Speaker 2: Yeah. So, the the girlfriend that we started the business

803
00:37:50,119 --> 00:37:53,519
in DC with, we ended up getting married and things

804
00:37:53,599 --> 00:37:58,400
were just not going well, and eventually we got divorced.

805
00:37:59,119 --> 00:38:01,760
She was a alcoholic and she's doing really well now,

806
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:03,599
which I'm happy for her, but just it was just

807
00:38:03,639 --> 00:38:06,280
a tough time for us. And so in the process

808
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:09,800
of that divorce ended up, you know, we had to

809
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,639
leave the place we were living. She moved out of state.

810
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,239
I ended up having to move to a close to

811
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,440
the job because I didn't have a car. We were

812
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:20,840
a one car family. She took the car. I was broke.

813
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,480
We were broke. We were we were month to month,

814
00:38:23,519 --> 00:38:26,039
paycheck to paycheck, and then like this one disruption of

815
00:38:26,039 --> 00:38:28,480
like moving and then do you have her some last month? No,

816
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,360
the last month of course, So I ended up having

817
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:34,320
a rent a room, like I said, pretty close to

818
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,400
the job, so I could, you know, walk to and

819
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:38,719
from work, and then bought a bike, like a bike

820
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:39,440
to and from work.

821
00:38:39,519 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 3: You say bike, you mean bicycle?

822
00:38:41,119 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 2: I mean bike. You were pedaling doing the whole thing. Yeah.

823
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:45,280
Speaker 1: Absolutely.

824
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:49,559
Speaker 2: And so I'm going through all this and I have

825
00:38:49,599 --> 00:38:52,360
a job that's pretty good. I'm not making six figures.

826
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:54,440
I think I'm making I don't know, fifty or sixty

827
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:58,920
thousand dollars small company, right, Yeah. But these two brothers

828
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:00,599
that hired me, like they seem like they had it

829
00:39:00,599 --> 00:39:02,679
all together, not just from the fact they were running

830
00:39:02,679 --> 00:39:05,480
a business, but their family life seemed successful. And at

831
00:39:05,519 --> 00:39:07,360
one point I just asked them. I was like, like,

832
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:10,400
what do you like, how do you do this? And

833
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:11,239
they looked at me, like.

834
00:39:12,119 --> 00:39:17,119
Speaker 1: Do what before you continue? Do you you remember asking

835
00:39:17,119 --> 00:39:17,840
them that question?

836
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:21,519
Speaker 2: Yeah? I remember walking into Jason saying like, like, how

837
00:39:21,519 --> 00:39:22,760
are you guys so successful?

838
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:26,559
Speaker 1: No, the reason I asked that is because imagine if

839
00:39:26,599 --> 00:39:29,159
you hadn't yeah, you know what I mean? And that,

840
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:32,199
to me, it's like the mind blown emoji, you know

841
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:34,760
what I mean. Imagine if you had not done that well,

842
00:39:35,039 --> 00:39:39,719
but you were bold you may not think of yourself

843
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:42,159
that way, but you took the chance.

844
00:39:42,199 --> 00:39:43,760
Speaker 3: I'm going to ask, because they could have laughed you.

845
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:44,800
Speaker 2: Off, right, they could have.

846
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:46,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, it should have been like what are you talking about?

847
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 2: It work? It worked, Yeah, they want those type of guys.

848
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,639
But it was like, honestly, I was at my wits end, man,

849
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,840
Like again I did I had done the assessment right,

850
00:39:56,239 --> 00:40:01,360
I was like, apparently I'm smart, I like I work hard,

851
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:04,800
but those things did not yield like they yielded this

852
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:06,400
fair enough, this situation.

853
00:40:06,519 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're looking at the math quay.

854
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:12,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, so the math a math right. So I'm like,

855
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:14,920
something's not right here. So I decided to say, hey,

856
00:40:15,519 --> 00:40:17,320
you guys seem to have figured out what are you doing?

857
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:19,719
And that's when Jason recommended, Hey, you need to read

858
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:21,760
this book. Here's audible, here's this app. I don't this

859
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:24,280
app listened to this book. So I had plenty of

860
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:28,400
time when I was walking my ass to Yeah, I

861
00:40:28,559 --> 00:40:32,360
was walking to work. I was I was walking to

862
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:35,400
work to start listening to books. And that was the

863
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:39,599
first book. And like I said, it's timing, it's you know.

864
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:43,480
I was in a position where I was able to

865
00:40:43,519 --> 00:40:43,920
hear the.

866
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:46,800
Speaker 1: Message, right, you had to be open open to.

867
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:51,360
Speaker 2: The receiving the message. And like, I devoured that book, man,

868
00:40:51,599 --> 00:40:53,199
I think I knocked it out in like one or

869
00:40:53,199 --> 00:40:53,719
two days.

870
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 3: That's amazing, it's amazing.

871
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:55,599
Speaker 1: I love to hear that.

872
00:40:55,639 --> 00:40:56,360
Speaker 3: I love to hear that.

873
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:59,320
Speaker 2: And then it was like one of the other cool

874
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:03,000
things was Matthew and Jason I would eat lunch together

875
00:41:04,159 --> 00:41:06,400
and so I'd be listening to these books in this

876
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:08,400
book or in other books, and I'd come back and

877
00:41:08,519 --> 00:41:10,039
be able to talk to them about it, like, hey,

878
00:41:10,199 --> 00:41:13,400
I think you know this chapter was talking about X

879
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:14,760
y Z, how do you guys do that? What do

880
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:17,239
you guys think about that? And then today so they

881
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:19,599
would give me feedback or how they apply it and

882
00:41:19,639 --> 00:41:22,119
that sort of thing. So it wasn't just listen to

883
00:41:22,199 --> 00:41:25,400
the book and you know that's it. It was listen

884
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:29,440
to it, talk about it, simplify it, apply it, and

885
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:31,559
see if it yielded a better outcome for me.

886
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:34,880
Speaker 1: That's again just the fact that you were willing to

887
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:39,639
you know, during your quote lowest time. Yeah, yeah, and

888
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,960
you found time to improve yourself, whether you realized that

889
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:45,880
at the time or not that that's what you were doing.

890
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 3: I like to think you were.

891
00:41:47,079 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 1: I mean, you tell me, were you Just like, well,

892
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:50,440
let me listen to this and see what I if

893
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:51,360
I get anything from it.

894
00:41:51,559 --> 00:41:54,039
Speaker 2: I think the I think the thing that made sense

895
00:41:54,079 --> 00:41:56,719
to me at the time was I spent all those

896
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:59,800
years working, you know, doing six sigma and one of

897
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:02,039
the one of the things they talk about, we talk

898
00:42:02,079 --> 00:42:04,320
about quite a bit in the space, is about identifying

899
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:08,239
root causes as to why things happen. Right, So I

900
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:12,400
just like try to apply that to my life as

901
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:15,480
opposed to, like something happening in a business, Why is

902
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:18,320
this happening? Why is this happening? Why is this happening?

903
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:18,599
Speaker 1: Right?

904
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:21,039
Speaker 2: Trying to identify the root cause, and then once you

905
00:42:21,119 --> 00:42:23,400
identify that, you start putting things in place.

906
00:42:23,199 --> 00:42:25,679
Speaker 1: To let me ask you this based on that. So

907
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:28,119
when you say why is this happening? Why is this happening?

908
00:42:30,079 --> 00:42:34,679
I am familiar with the seven wise, which is just

909
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:36,960
keep asking why, keep asking why do you get to

910
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:40,400
the actual reason? Is that similar or is Yeah?

911
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:42,519
Speaker 2: I mean in my experience we call it five wives,

912
00:42:42,559 --> 00:42:44,360
but yeah, it's the same, it's the same idea.

913
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:46,800
Speaker 1: Now here's the thing I said seven, He said five,

914
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:49,679
It's probably actually five because I must have seen it

915
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:50,559
at one point.

916
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:53,679
Speaker 3: It's actually has studied this. Let's make it five.

917
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:55,840
Speaker 2: It's enough wise to get you to something.

918
00:42:55,639 --> 00:42:57,840
Speaker 3: There, or maybe I just need to ask seven. Five

919
00:42:57,920 --> 00:42:58,400
isn't going to.

920
00:42:58,440 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 1: Do it for me?

921
00:42:59,119 --> 00:43:01,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's an enough you asked enough time to get

922
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:04,079
to a place where you can take action on the answer.

923
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:07,599
That's the that's the Crux store.

924
00:43:08,639 --> 00:43:15,239
Speaker 1: And I love that because you recently posted that knowing

925
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:18,119
was not the problem. Right, And if I may, I'm

926
00:43:18,119 --> 00:43:20,079
gonna read the quote to you. Okay, most of us

927
00:43:20,199 --> 00:43:23,960
already know that we need to eat better, exercise more,

928
00:43:24,519 --> 00:43:27,920
communicate more with our loved ones, but we failed to

929
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:32,159
take action. Yes, why is that so?

930
00:43:32,199 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 2: There was this marketing study that came out probably ten

931
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:38,360
years ago that talks about this idea that ninety five

932
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:41,719
percent actions that we take from us from a consumer

933
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:46,519
standpoint are subconscious. When I even realizing that we're doing

934
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:49,920
and only five percent of what we do is or

935
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:53,960
what we buy, how we buy is conscious, I think

936
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:57,360
widly it's been adopted and I like to believe that

937
00:43:57,360 --> 00:44:01,559
that translates to our lives in general. That ninety five

938
00:44:01,599 --> 00:44:03,880
percent of what we do is subconscious, five percent of

939
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:07,599
what we do is conscious and what gets interesting is

940
00:44:07,599 --> 00:44:14,119
a subconscious party. Right. Where do those stories come from?

941
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:16,679
Why do we believe the things that we believe? What

942
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:21,599
is driving our subconscious? Right? If you take a step

943
00:44:21,639 --> 00:44:24,840
back and think about this idea that thoughts become beliefs,

944
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:31,360
beliefs become actions. We are surrounded inundated every day with

945
00:44:31,559 --> 00:44:37,119
messages that tell us to buy more things, eat more food.

946
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:40,639
We did a presentation to some students over at Valencia

947
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and try to add up all the days in which

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you're supposed to go celebrate with food.

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Speaker 1: Right, guys, For those of you who don't know, Valentia

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is a college here in Orlando area.

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Speaker 2: So we're supposed to celebrate on Fridays, we're supposed to

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sell if you're a football fan, you're supposed to eat

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chicken wings and beer on Sundays. Of course, if it's

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your birthday, it's my birthday day, right, supposed to celebrate

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with food.

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Speaker 1: He admitted it, guys, I was gonna bring it up.

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Speaker 2: Guys, he's doing.

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Speaker 3: Hit this podcast as a favor for me on his birthday.

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Speaker 1: So thank you very much.

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Speaker 2: By the way, some people celebrate for a week, Some

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people celebrate their birthday.

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Speaker 1: Month, month, Yeah, yeah, I seen it right.

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Speaker 2: All the things maybe added up all the days, and

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like I don't have a ton of friends or a

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ton of family, but all those people are supposed to

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support those people on the days. It's really hard to

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hit your caloric intake number when you're spending all this

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time celebrating as chatbt add up all these days for

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somebody like me, one hundred and fifty days out of

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three hundred and sixty five days you're supposed to celebrate

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with food. That's before you even count donut.

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Speaker 3: Day when they bring it to the office.

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Speaker 2: National Taco yeah, National Taco Day, Tuesday, Margarite today. So again,

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so these messages feed our subconscious and then we have

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this conflict where I say I want five percent. My

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five percent brain, a conscious brain says I want this thing,

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but my subconscious brain, the ninety five percent, says it's

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it's time to celebrate. And I think that's why we

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have to struggle. That's why I had a struggle. I

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had to deal with the stories that were in my

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subconscious I had to bring those to light and understand

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what those stories were, because though that ninety five percent

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was overpowering the five percent, and I just didn't understand

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what was happening to me at the time.

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Speaker 3: Can you reduce that ninety.

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Speaker 2: I think you can change that. I think you can

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change the stories. I'll give it an analogy. When you

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are learning how to drive the car. You remember when

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you first started learning how to.

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Speaker 1: Drive, Okay, thanks to my sister.

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Speaker 2: It took all of your attention right to figure out

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what the right pressure was to put onto the gas pedal,

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to put figure out what the right pressure was to

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slow down and break the car rather than drik it

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to a stop. Entering the highway was a nerve wracking experience, right,

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all those things. But now when you drive, if it's subconscious,

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you're not.

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Speaker 1: Even thinking about it, almost to a detriment.

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Speaker 2: Well, but you get there safely most of the time.

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So much so, so much so that you can take

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your conscious brain and do other things. You can listen

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to music, you can listen to podcasts, you can be

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on your phone, you can eat all the things that

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were not even in the realm of possibility when you're

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first learning. Right, So if someone can put the messages

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into your subconscious, then you can change the messages in

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your subconscious and we are. We are victims of our

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own success. We don't even realize that. I was talking

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to Katie earlier about this, right, Like, for a lot

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of people when they start working out, eating healthy, it's

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like learning how to drive a car. It takes full focus,

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full effort, one hundred percent, like I gotta I gotta

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work on this thing, high energy.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: But for people who come to the cross for gym

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every day or eat healthy as it's far their lifestyle, well,

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now it's like even think about it, it takes. It's

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like you've been driving a car forever. Right, And I think,

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so you cannot reduce You can't change the dynamic of

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five percent conscious ninety five percent conscious or subconscious, but

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you can certainly change what the subconscious is telling you,

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what the subconscious is doing.

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Speaker 1: I see.

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Speaker 2: So if we can get the subconscious to be alignment

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with the conscious, I mean you can do anything.

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Speaker 1: Said that they're both on the positive side.

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Speaker 2: They're in alignment, okay, right, Like, so I can set

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a health goal and if my subconscious says, oh you're

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a healthy person, oh you you don't bend to social

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norms when it comes to you know, partying all the time,

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eating on time, whatever, Then yeah, you can. You're more

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than likely gonna hit your health goal right because you're

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you believe it. Even on the subconscious level. Your stories

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that you have in your head are supporting this thing

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that like, Yeah, I'm gonna be a healthy person.

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Speaker 1: Now trying to relate that to what I know or understand,

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I'm going to refer that to CrossFit. So let me

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ask you this or mention this. One of the things

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that I've told many people this. One of the things

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I love about being a member here and coaching at

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Mousetrap is that I have seen and continue to see

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people come through the door very first time, maybe the

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first time they've ever worked out or moved in decades

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or at any point. Maybe they weren't into sports as kids,

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and there's always a sense of nervousness, little anxiety, and

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I think the biggest thing is not knowing what to

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do now. I know when I came in, I had

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maybe done some curls, a little bench with my buddies

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in high school kind of thing, but I never really

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worked out. I wouldn't have known how to do any

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of it had I not been coached and shown how

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to do it. Now I love seeing people and I'm

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thinking of several right now.

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Speaker 3: You may know who you are who came in and.

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Speaker 1: Projected that or shared that, and that I have seen

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them put in the effort, put in the work. But

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it can't just be a casual thing. You have to

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choose to do this sure, and then over time it

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becomes not less of an effort because there's always gonna

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you know, you'll always need to push. But to your

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point about it being subconscious, where Okay, I know this

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is what we're gonna do. I'm gonna come in, We're

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gonna warm up, I'm gonna grab you know, whatever equipment

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I need. I'm're gonna start moving with it, and then

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we're gonna have the actual workout of the day.

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Speaker 3: And then they have successes.

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Speaker 1: And what I love to do is to cheer on

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their successes because they may not realize in the moment

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how far they've come to them. It's just, oh, I

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didn't hit at PR today. I was hitting my prs consecutively,

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you know, but now I'm not. But I know how

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far they've come. So I cheer and celebrate all the

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little victories. Let's say, you know, and I think a

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lot of times they don't realize it. They've put that,

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you know, just the all the struggles and all the

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successes into that subconscious, so like I can't you know,

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someone may say I might not be able to do

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a thirty inch box jump. Okay, can you do it

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twenty four? All right, let's tire twenty five. And then

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you build up to it and you've done it before

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so you can do it again. Yeah, you know, And

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I think that's really important. Now I may have gone

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off the rails there with what we're saying, but I

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just think making that subconscious a positive or in alignment

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as you said, right, could it be is it possible

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that your subconscious is negatively aligned to your your negative consciousness,

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so it's just negative and negative?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think the biggest opportunity that we have as coaches,

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as people, as people is to bring the subconscious thoughts

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that we have to Like, I think that's our biggest opportunity.

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Speaker 1: To explain or give an example.

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Speaker 2: Please, sure, that's a silly example.

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Speaker 1: I'll no let me hear it silly or the better.

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I think more people can relate to silly.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I.

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Speaker 3: Hope that's been my whole goal of my entire life.

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Speaker 2: We I'll give you a silly example. I'll give you

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I guess a little more serious. Okay. When I started

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dating Katie, we had this ritual where we had to

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go get some version of rice or Chinese food or

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Japanese food on.

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Speaker 1: A Friday, okay, every Friday. Okay.

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Speaker 3: Do you know how that started? I do?

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Speaker 2: Well, so okay, I'm sorry, sorry, no, I got you

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so probably like a couple of weeks. She was like,

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she was down for it, whatever it might be, like

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that early relationship. I'm just trying to keetch you to

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like me. I want you to like you know, that

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whole thing. So she let it go for like a while,

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and then she was like, what's the like, what's to

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deal with this? Like why don't you have to get

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Panda Express every dag on Friday? And I said to her,

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I said, well, you know, when I was a kid,

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my mom like, I love Chinese food. Why do you

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love Chinese food? Well, when I was a kid my

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mom again, single mom, we didn't have a lot, didn't

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do a lot. Fridays she would say, hey, you guys,

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clean up the house, scrub the toilets, vacuum dust, blah

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blah blah, cut the grass, do all the things, and

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if you do a good job, I'll bring home Chinese

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food and like the cheap stuff at the corner with

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the egg rolls and the whole thing. And so like

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this Chinese food became like this thing where like I

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would like celebrate doing a good job, or like my

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mom was proud of me. And so now like the

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story I have carrying around with me is like I

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gotta have Chinese food on Friday night and we would

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have weight loss challenges and I remember, like I can't

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wait till this is over. It's like finally get che

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go back to my life now. I mean, it's a

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silly example, but like this story has been flowing around

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in my head for like thirty something years, forty years

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until Katie asked me, asked me about it and say

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like what is the deal about this? And I had

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never really sat down and thought about it. Right, So

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that's a silly example, I'd say A more serious example

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is that I thought wealth was making one hundred thousand

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dollars a year, not a million dollar portfolio, not you know,

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a multimillion dollar net worth. None of the like that

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was not the context that I grew up in. So

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I never thought wealth or building wealth or being rich

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was ever possible for me. And that was the story

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I carried around for the longest time. And what that

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means is whenever I got money, I spent money because

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it wasn't about the story in my head, was not

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about the story of my subconscious, was not about building wealth.

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It was about making one hundred grand.

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Speaker 1: Okay, does that make sense?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, And so you had to change your mindset.

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Speaker 2: I had to. I had to recognize that the reason

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why I wasn't building wealth was because I have these

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stories in my head that aren't tied to building building wealth.

1156
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They're tied to spending money for earning more money, Okay, Right,

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And so until you raise that stuff to the surface

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and say this is why I'm acting this way, this

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is why I'm doing these things, you're gonna keep You're

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gonna keep on keep on doing.

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Speaker 1: Them the same way, the same way.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Now, let me ask you this. Yeah, you mentioned recently

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in a post the term let me make sure I'm

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reading it right, Yeah, low.

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Speaker 2: Agency, low agency.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, can you define what that is?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So, during the course of walking and listening to

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the audio books podcast, I got introduced to this idea,

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this concept of the agency. As most recently I really

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started thinking about it, like what that actually meant, because

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again I was asking myself those questions about.

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Speaker 1: I've heard the term, but I never really understood.

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Speaker 2: And it's it's become popular in the I guess more

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popular in the personal development space recently. But again it

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started with me asking like why are people like why

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was I successful in systems like in highly systemized places school, Army,

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corporate America? But when the system weren't there, I wasn't

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00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:21,079
as successful. I didn't have like I was like I

1180
00:56:21,199 --> 00:56:22,880
was all over the place I was. I was struggling

1181
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:26,119
to achieve my goals. And so I got introduced to

1182
00:56:26,159 --> 00:56:28,079
this idea of agency and I just started researching the

1183
00:56:28,079 --> 00:56:31,159
heck out of it and to my wife would probably

1184
00:56:31,199 --> 00:56:34,280
admit this, I have become obsessed with this concept. So

1185
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:35,840
to answer a question, that's a long way to get

1186
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:36,840
to your answer your question.

1187
00:56:37,159 --> 00:56:41,159
Speaker 1: You know, it's a powerful word. I love.

1188
00:56:42,119 --> 00:56:47,000
Speaker 2: Agency is this belief that I agency is a skill

1189
00:56:47,079 --> 00:56:49,760
set that you can develop, but it's essentially believing that

1190
00:56:50,199 --> 00:56:53,440
I have an impact on the outcomes of my life, right,

1191
00:56:54,079 --> 00:56:56,880
And so I like to think about agency and sort

1192
00:56:56,880 --> 00:57:01,400
of for for pillars, it it's about goal setting. So

1193
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:03,480
I have some goal that I'm trying to achieve. We

1194
00:57:03,519 --> 00:57:07,360
as humans do that, but being able to understand what

1195
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:11,639
my goals are, I have some concept of my future self, right,

1196
00:57:11,679 --> 00:57:13,760
So it's not just about the immediate, but it's about

1197
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:16,159
also what I'm what I'm gonna look like and do

1198
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:19,000
and be like ten years from now, twenty years from now,

1199
00:57:19,039 --> 00:57:23,960
whatever that is. Agency also speaks to understanding the total

1200
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:28,599
cost of things. So when I make a decision, there's

1201
00:57:28,639 --> 00:57:31,639
an emotional cost, there's a physical cost, there's a financial cost.

1202
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:36,719
And then this final concept I really think speaks to agencies,

1203
00:57:37,039 --> 00:57:41,639
this idea of radical responsibility, like it's not my fault

1204
00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:44,159
that things certain things happen to me, but it's certain

1205
00:57:44,199 --> 00:57:47,079
my responsibility on what to do about it next. Right,

1206
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:49,880
So those four pillars I like to lean on and

1207
00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:53,159
say this is what agency is, right, the ability to

1208
00:57:53,199 --> 00:57:56,440
impact the outcomes of my life with those four sort

1209
00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:59,880
of pillars. So when you say low agency, it means

1210
00:57:59,880 --> 00:58:04,840
that if we consider agency on a spectrum, I'm at

1211
00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:08,440
the lower end of that. Like I don't consider goals.

1212
00:58:08,559 --> 00:58:12,639
I don't consider my future self. I don't take radical

1213
00:58:12,679 --> 00:58:16,079
responsibility over the things that happen in my life. And

1214
00:58:16,119 --> 00:58:19,960
I don't consider the total cost, right, I only consider

1215
00:58:20,719 --> 00:58:25,440
the monthly payment. I only consider this thing happened to me.

1216
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:28,360
It's the government's fault, or it's white people's fault, or

1217
00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:30,679
it's black people's fault, or it's rich people's fault, or

1218
00:58:30,719 --> 00:58:33,960
it's the Democrat's fault, or it's Republican's fault. Right, So

1219
00:58:34,719 --> 00:58:37,800
when you start hearing that type of language or having

1220
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:43,880
those types of thought processes, it's lower agency. I got

1221
00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:45,440
you from my perspective.

1222
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:48,199
Speaker 1: Now just listing everything that you did there. And that

1223
00:58:48,239 --> 00:58:51,000
fourth pillar really hit me hard, by the way, because

1224
00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:55,960
the taking responsibility, Yeah, understanding that things that have happened

1225
00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:58,239
to you might not necessarily be your fault, say, but

1226
00:58:59,199 --> 00:59:02,920
you can take act right. And so I think a

1227
00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:06,320
lot of times, honestly, people get so caught up in

1228
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:09,119
the day to day, Hey, trying to get the kids fed,

1229
00:59:09,679 --> 00:59:11,440
trying to get them to school, bills paid, and all

1230
00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:15,280
that kind of stuff, that we can forget about the

1231
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:19,000
importance of that and like understanding the fundamental reasons why

1232
00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:23,239
we're doing what we're doing, or flip that, not doing

1233
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:25,639
what we need to do in order to better ourselves

1234
00:59:25,639 --> 00:59:32,599
in our situation. Yeah, so with low agency, if you

1235
00:59:32,679 --> 00:59:34,480
find yourself to have it, because a lot of times

1236
00:59:34,519 --> 00:59:37,079
I really think people don't peek.

1237
00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:37,480
Speaker 3: Behind the curtain.

1238
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:41,519
Speaker 1: Whether that be just because they're not aware, they don't know,

1239
00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:44,360
or maybe they don't want to peek behind that curtain.

1240
00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:45,760
Speaker 3: That's I think that's valid.

1241
00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:48,800
Speaker 1: Right, So what do you think people need to do

1242
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:52,239
if they find themselves in that low agency and they

1243
00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:54,239
do want to make a change.

1244
00:59:55,639 --> 00:59:57,360
Speaker 2: Subscribe to my substances.

1245
00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:01,519
Speaker 3: It that's perfect the set up. I laid it up,

1246
01:00:01,679 --> 01:00:02,840
he grab it, dunked it.

1247
01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:03,440
Speaker 1: I love that.

1248
01:00:03,519 --> 01:00:05,559
Speaker 3: No, how do they find your substack?

1249
01:00:05,639 --> 01:00:07,920
Speaker 2: By the way, just go to substock and you search

1250
01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:10,039
for build your Proof or what's his name of the

1251
01:00:10,079 --> 01:00:12,800
company that Katie and I started, or Alan Thompson and

1252
01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:14,559
you'll you'll find it and.

1253
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:17,599
Speaker 3: That's Alan Thompson A L L E N H O

1254
01:00:17,679 --> 01:00:18,400
N P S so win.

1255
01:00:18,599 --> 01:00:22,119
Speaker 2: So it's difficult, right because to answer your question a

1256
01:00:22,199 --> 01:00:25,880
second way, low agency, it's difficult that you know that

1257
01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:29,360
you're there, right because so much of it again again

1258
01:00:29,559 --> 01:00:34,039
is your subconscious telling you that it's okay to blame

1259
01:00:34,599 --> 01:00:38,920
other people. It's okay to have nothing but monthly payments

1260
01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:43,760
and never consider the total cost. It's okay to yolo.

1261
01:00:44,119 --> 01:00:46,199
I mean, I was talking to a I was talking

1262
01:00:46,239 --> 01:00:49,920
to a coworker of mine, and we were just talking about,

1263
01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:53,079
you know, finances and building wealth, and I was just

1264
01:00:53,119 --> 01:00:55,559
trying to part some wisdom. They probably like, get out

1265
01:00:55,559 --> 01:00:57,960
of here, oh man, But I was just talking about like, well,

1266
01:00:57,960 --> 01:01:01,079
I was curious, like, you know, they're twenty five years old, Like,

1267
01:01:01,119 --> 01:01:03,400
how often to her and her you know, peers sent

1268
01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:07,800
around talk about building wealth. And she said something to

1269
01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:10,360
the defect of life. Well, you know, you only live once.

1270
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:12,320
You can't take it with you. And I looked at

1271
01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:14,639
her and I said, well, I mean, so long as

1272
01:01:14,639 --> 01:01:17,800
you're not living a life of crime, which you may

1273
01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:19,480
or may not be doing. But so long as you're

1274
01:01:19,719 --> 01:01:23,119
not living a life of crime, you're likely to grow old.

1275
01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:29,679
But her perception was her response to me, the language

1276
01:01:29,719 --> 01:01:33,440
she used was like that's not likely to happen, when

1277
01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:39,000
in reality is very likely that you're going to grow old,

1278
01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:41,079
and that you need resources in order to do that.

1279
01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:45,039
So in a lot of cases, it's hard to know

1280
01:01:45,679 --> 01:01:50,000
that you're making low agency decisions or because you don't

1281
01:01:50,039 --> 01:01:52,400
have that context. I think the easiest thing to start

1282
01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:55,199
with is if you are setting goals and you're not

1283
01:01:55,360 --> 01:02:00,280
achieving them, it's likely that you're making low agency decisions.

1284
01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:01,199
Speaker 3: Okay, one more time.

1285
01:02:01,239 --> 01:02:02,760
Speaker 1: I just want to make sure everybody caught that part,

1286
01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:05,920
because I think it's very important. If you're setting goals

1287
01:02:07,039 --> 01:02:12,719
but not achieving them, it may be due to low agency,

1288
01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:16,639
low agency decisions, decision making, okay, all right, because you

1289
01:02:16,679 --> 01:02:19,480
are not focused on those four pillars correct, and you

1290
01:02:19,519 --> 01:02:24,559
are just going through your day to day, your routine,

1291
01:02:25,239 --> 01:02:27,400
or you're not focusing on the proper things, right.

1292
01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:31,119
Speaker 2: I think low agency can be identified through our language

1293
01:02:31,159 --> 01:02:34,320
and our actions. So if you find yourself saying things

1294
01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:39,400
like when you ask yourself, why am I doing this,

1295
01:02:39,519 --> 01:02:42,280
and you say things like I don't know, or I

1296
01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:47,239
don't care or it doesn't matter, it suggests that you

1297
01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:51,000
are making low agency decisions. Rights. I asked Katie this

1298
01:02:51,039 --> 01:02:55,360
the other day. Now, my wife is committed to increasing

1299
01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:59,960
her testosterone and managing her hormones and doing all these things,

1300
01:03:00,119 --> 01:03:02,400
us the things, And I asked her, what what did

1301
01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:05,960
you have for breakfast? Yesterday, yesterday, and she knew down

1302
01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:08,480
to the tea what she had for breakfast. And the

1303
01:03:08,519 --> 01:03:12,239
reason why she knows that is because she's intentional with

1304
01:03:12,320 --> 01:03:14,800
the food choices that she's making. It's a very it's

1305
01:03:14,840 --> 01:03:16,960
a very high agency, right, Like you think about it,

1306
01:03:17,119 --> 01:03:21,199
She's focused on building protein or consuming protein so she

1307
01:03:21,199 --> 01:03:24,360
can build muscles so later in life she can still

1308
01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:27,440
manipulate the environment that is around her. So in one

1309
01:03:27,559 --> 01:03:30,119
simple case, what a what are you eating for breakfast?

1310
01:03:30,440 --> 01:03:35,360
She demonstrates radical responsibility. She has a focus on her

1311
01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:38,440
future self. She's set some goals because she knows this

1312
01:03:38,519 --> 01:03:41,719
breakfast is moving her in the direction of that goal.

1313
01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:46,119
And she's assessed the total cost, like this small investment

1314
01:03:46,440 --> 01:03:49,159
will just breakfast, right, We'll pay dividends for her.

1315
01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:55,360
Speaker 1: So and because you know, I think it's fascinating. I

1316
01:03:55,440 --> 01:03:57,480
love it and I know exactly what you mean. Yeah, well,

1317
01:03:57,480 --> 01:03:59,360
at least I think I do. Let's find out, right,

1318
01:03:59,519 --> 01:04:01,800
because I want to know. And for the people watching

1319
01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:04,960
and listening, I think this is really important. Okay, Okay,

1320
01:04:05,039 --> 01:04:08,760
so you know you ask what you had for breakfast? Okay,

1321
01:04:08,800 --> 01:04:10,159
I didn't know where this story was going.

1322
01:04:10,199 --> 01:04:11,920
Speaker 2: Oh man, I don't hope you don't.

1323
01:04:11,880 --> 01:04:16,360
Speaker 1: Get yourself in trouble. But no, like is it that

1324
01:04:16,519 --> 01:04:20,519
people may need to put more thought and effort into

1325
01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:23,519
just every decision that they make throughout the course of

1326
01:04:23,559 --> 01:04:28,800
the day. Yes, but there it is right there, it is.

1327
01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:29,079
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1328
01:04:29,159 --> 01:04:31,920
Speaker 1: No, Like again, I think a lot of times we

1329
01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:33,760
go through the motions. You know, I don't want to

1330
01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:36,400
speak for everybody, but I can speak for myself, you know,

1331
01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:40,440
all right, time for dinner, time for bed, get up,

1332
01:04:40,559 --> 01:04:43,360
LUNs going off, you know, let's you know, But definitely

1333
01:04:43,400 --> 01:04:44,840
not while I'm coaching at mouse Rep.

1334
01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:50,320
Speaker 2: Well done. So again, and this is not a conspiracy

1335
01:04:50,360 --> 01:04:53,280
theory because I don't think things are. I don't think

1336
01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:57,280
companies are. Culture do these things. It's not some grand

1337
01:04:57,280 --> 01:05:00,480
conspiracy theory saying these things are done on purpose, right,

1338
01:05:01,239 --> 01:05:06,360
But they are intentional in the sense that businesses, like

1339
01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:10,159
certain businesses want us to be and say things like

1340
01:05:10,239 --> 01:05:13,880
I don't know, I don't care certain aspects of culture.

1341
01:05:13,880 --> 01:05:16,719
I think culture is a system businesses or systems certain

1342
01:05:16,760 --> 01:05:19,559
parts of the culture want us to be to make

1343
01:05:19,639 --> 01:05:25,320
low agency decisions. So one thing that I learned from

1344
01:05:25,360 --> 01:05:33,360
six Sigma is that you create systems all the time.

1345
01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:39,119
So whatever you're currently experiencing. You have created that system.

1346
01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:41,599
A way to think about it is, if you are

1347
01:05:43,679 --> 01:05:48,960
fifty years old and overweight, you have perfected a system

1348
01:05:49,360 --> 01:05:52,840
that means you eat or you over consume calories, you

1349
01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:56,760
do not exercise enough, and it has yielded the outcome

1350
01:05:56,800 --> 01:05:58,679
that you are now fifty years old and overweight. You

1351
01:05:58,719 --> 01:06:00,880
have perfected it. You Like, you know exactly how much

1352
01:06:00,920 --> 01:06:03,519
you need to eat, where to eat, how much to drink,

1353
01:06:03,599 --> 01:06:06,920
how little exercise to do to achieve that exact physique

1354
01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:10,559
in an exact level of body fat. Well done right now,

1355
01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:15,400
Like the person who was in that situation made that system. Okay,

1356
01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:18,960
the question is why do they do that? Yeah?

1357
01:06:19,039 --> 01:06:20,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, you have five wives.

1358
01:06:20,159 --> 01:06:21,159
Speaker 2: To figure it out, right.

1359
01:06:21,440 --> 01:06:24,800
Speaker 3: But okay, so again.

1360
01:06:27,039 --> 01:06:32,039
Speaker 1: Knowing you, Yeah, I find all of this fascinating and

1361
01:06:32,159 --> 01:06:34,440
it's very educational. I think it's great, and I think

1362
01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:37,840
it's important for people watching and listening right now to

1363
01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:41,639
get so right now, I'm just thinking about myself. I'm

1364
01:06:41,679 --> 01:06:44,440
in the car, you know, I'm listening to this podcast.

1365
01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:46,599
It's amazing. The host is really phenomenal and you get

1366
01:06:46,639 --> 01:06:49,719
like super cute, and the guests isn't bad either. But

1367
01:06:49,840 --> 01:06:54,880
like they're you know, consuming this information and they're like, oh, damn,

1368
01:06:55,199 --> 01:06:57,519
I do that. You know, I didn't even realize it.

1369
01:06:57,639 --> 01:07:00,000
You know, I'm fifty and I'm not in the best shape,

1370
01:07:00,039 --> 01:07:02,800
and I don't exercise, and I'm eating my burger right

1371
01:07:02,840 --> 01:07:06,360
now as I'm listening to this. What is the one thing,

1372
01:07:07,079 --> 01:07:11,639
and this is tough, What is the one thing that

1373
01:07:11,719 --> 01:07:15,679
an individual, in your opinion, can do to get them

1374
01:07:15,760 --> 01:07:21,599
moving in a positive direction with systems or just impacting

1375
01:07:22,000 --> 01:07:22,920
or improving their life.

1376
01:07:22,960 --> 01:07:23,639
Speaker 3: It's a tough question.

1377
01:07:24,280 --> 01:07:26,960
Speaker 1: It's a tough question. It's different for everybody. Imagine like

1378
01:07:27,039 --> 01:07:30,199
the the goal is different for everyone.

1379
01:07:30,360 --> 01:07:32,360
Speaker 2: Right if I get.

1380
01:07:32,320 --> 01:07:35,000
Speaker 1: Based on six sigma and everything we discussed here today,

1381
01:07:35,039 --> 01:07:36,280
what is that one thing?

1382
01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:38,079
Speaker 2: If I had to pick one thing that you can

1383
01:07:38,119 --> 01:07:41,400
do to change your life right now, it is to

1384
01:07:41,639 --> 01:07:42,920
start journaling.

1385
01:07:44,840 --> 01:07:46,719
Speaker 3: Now, define that for me?

1386
01:07:46,840 --> 01:07:49,519
Speaker 1: Sure, because I have notebooks all over my house and

1387
01:07:49,559 --> 01:07:52,119
some of them have a sentence yep, some of them

1388
01:07:52,119 --> 01:07:54,599
have a few pages, you know, and I you know,

1389
01:07:54,719 --> 01:07:57,639
it's not something that I haven't attempted before. I just

1390
01:07:57,880 --> 01:08:00,840
am not consistent with it. So what you define journaling?

1391
01:08:00,880 --> 01:08:04,360
Speaker 2: Mass You open up a Google specially, you type in

1392
01:08:04,400 --> 01:08:08,840
the day of the day, and you list out what

1393
01:08:09,000 --> 01:08:09,639
happened that day.

1394
01:08:10,960 --> 01:08:12,840
Speaker 1: Now, when you say list out what happened to that day,

1395
01:08:12,880 --> 01:08:15,480
I got up, yep, I went to the restroom. I

1396
01:08:15,519 --> 01:08:17,760
went to the bathroom, brush my teeth, yep, got to

1397
01:08:17,800 --> 01:08:19,279
the kitchen. You're listing all this stuff.

1398
01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:20,439
Speaker 2: List what happened that day?

1399
01:08:20,479 --> 01:08:20,840
Speaker 1: Okay?

1400
01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:23,640
Speaker 2: And then I want you to list three things that

1401
01:08:23,680 --> 01:08:24,600
you're grateful.

1402
01:08:24,279 --> 01:08:25,119
Speaker 1: For, okay.

1403
01:08:25,640 --> 01:08:27,359
Speaker 2: And then I want you to list what you plan

1404
01:08:27,439 --> 01:08:28,279
on doing tomorrow.

1405
01:08:28,920 --> 01:08:31,760
Speaker 1: Okay. Should all these be separate columns? Again, I'm just

1406
01:08:31,840 --> 01:08:33,960
asking for whoever it could be. It could be stream

1407
01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:35,319
of consciousness.

1408
01:08:35,439 --> 01:08:39,119
Speaker 2: Now here's the key. The next day, I need you

1409
01:08:39,159 --> 01:08:41,159
to tell me did you do the things that you

1410
01:08:41,199 --> 01:08:44,000
said you were going to do the day before? You

1411
01:08:44,079 --> 01:08:46,600
made a bunch of promises to yourself the night before,

1412
01:08:46,880 --> 01:08:50,560
saying I'm gonna do all these things. Did you do them?

1413
01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:52,359
And if you didn't do them, why not?

1414
01:08:53,159 --> 01:08:56,439
Speaker 1: And it is in that in that Google in that

1415
01:08:56,520 --> 01:08:59,560
Google sheet sheet, why I did not do it?

1416
01:09:00,199 --> 01:09:03,640
Speaker 2: To you? Open up the Google sheet type in a

1417
01:09:03,760 --> 01:09:06,640
day and you talk about, yes, you look at your

1418
01:09:06,680 --> 01:09:08,640
list that you made the things I want, the things

1419
01:09:08,720 --> 01:09:10,399
I said I was going to do today did I

1420
01:09:10,439 --> 01:09:13,880
do them? And you answer the question did you do them?

1421
01:09:13,960 --> 01:09:16,119
Yes or no? And why didn't you do them? And

1422
01:09:16,159 --> 01:09:18,520
it is in that moment that you should start asking

1423
01:09:18,560 --> 01:09:22,680
the five whys and start surfacing the stories, the things

1424
01:09:22,840 --> 01:09:27,000
that are preventing you from keeping the promises that you

1425
01:09:27,079 --> 01:09:31,760
make to yourself. And when you start doing that, you're

1426
01:09:31,760 --> 01:09:34,199
going to start to realize, like, I keep making these

1427
01:09:34,199 --> 01:09:37,760
promises to myself and I don't and I don't keep them.

1428
01:09:38,039 --> 01:09:44,239
Why is that happening? It's because subconscious is in conflict

1429
01:09:44,560 --> 01:09:45,600
with your conscious brain.

1430
01:09:47,039 --> 01:09:49,239
Speaker 1: Do you find that people tend to make the same

1431
01:09:49,279 --> 01:09:51,760
mistakes over and over again? And I hope using mistakes

1432
01:09:52,159 --> 01:09:53,880
that might not even be the right term.

1433
01:09:54,039 --> 01:09:59,960
Speaker 2: So the six sigma in me right says, eventually pattern

1434
01:10:00,239 --> 01:10:05,119
will start to show themselves. On day two, when you

1435
01:10:05,199 --> 01:10:09,239
go in and you list the things that you didn't do,

1436
01:10:09,279 --> 01:10:10,720
you get to the bottom and you list the things

1437
01:10:10,760 --> 01:10:13,359
that the promises that you're gonna that you set for

1438
01:10:13,399 --> 01:10:16,359
yourself for the next day. On day three, you open

1439
01:10:16,439 --> 01:10:18,439
up your journal, typing the day of the week or

1440
01:10:18,479 --> 01:10:20,880
day of the year or the date, and then you

1441
01:10:21,239 --> 01:10:24,159
answer the question I said I was gonna do these things.

1442
01:10:24,680 --> 01:10:26,720
Some of them were a carryover from the first day.

1443
01:10:27,479 --> 01:10:30,600
Did I do them? Why didn't I do them? And

1444
01:10:31,279 --> 01:10:33,920
I promise you you will start seeing patterns. I was

1445
01:10:33,960 --> 01:10:37,399
too tired. I didn't feel like it. That's another one

1446
01:10:36,399 --> 01:10:39,560
of the age. I didn't feel like it. Well why

1447
01:10:39,560 --> 01:10:41,840
didn't you feel like it? Right? You said you want

1448
01:10:41,880 --> 01:10:44,680
to do this thing? Well I got some You start

1449
01:10:44,840 --> 01:10:49,119
And the biggest challenge, the biggest opportunity I think for us,

1450
01:10:49,359 --> 01:10:51,880
is that radical responsibility. We turn the mirror, we look

1451
01:10:51,920 --> 01:10:54,000
at the mirror. It's the man in the mirror, Michael

1452
01:10:54,039 --> 01:11:01,199
Jackson told us. And I love how like Michael Jackson

1453
01:11:01,199 --> 01:11:07,279
now is like in Vogue came back around anyway. I

1454
01:11:07,319 --> 01:11:08,640
hope that haircut don't come back.

1455
01:11:09,640 --> 01:11:13,600
Speaker 3: I mean, this is thinning, it's silver. I don't think

1456
01:11:13,600 --> 01:11:14,439
I can pull it off.

1457
01:11:14,479 --> 01:11:16,840
Speaker 1: You know, I'm just saying, but you.

1458
01:11:16,920 --> 01:11:19,199
Speaker 2: Start, you'll start seeing patterns. That's why that's what happened

1459
01:11:19,199 --> 01:11:21,720
to me. I started seeing patterns in the journal I

1460
01:11:21,760 --> 01:11:24,000
was keeping. And you know, just to talk about journaling,

1461
01:11:24,439 --> 01:11:29,000
there's a negative stereotype to journaling. How So if I

1462
01:11:29,159 --> 01:11:31,439
if I asked a bunch of people to close your

1463
01:11:31,479 --> 01:11:34,039
eyes and like, what do you picture when I say

1464
01:11:34,039 --> 01:11:38,319
the word journaling. Yeah, they might think a pink diary

1465
01:11:38,399 --> 01:11:41,600
or like show me man's man who journals?

1466
01:11:42,880 --> 01:11:46,159
Speaker 1: So yeah, the stigma that it that journaling itself has.

1467
01:11:46,600 --> 01:11:51,119
Speaker 2: It's almost like there's this story being told in the

1468
01:11:51,159 --> 01:11:54,000
culture about this thing that can really help you, and

1469
01:11:54,039 --> 01:11:57,520
you build this subconscious thing to prevent us from doing it.

1470
01:11:58,319 --> 01:12:00,000
Then we don't have the data to improve our lives.

1471
01:12:00,119 --> 01:12:00,319
Speaker 1: Right.

1472
01:12:00,560 --> 01:12:05,520
Speaker 2: But you know Marcus really is journaled. Martin Luther King Jr.

1473
01:12:06,119 --> 01:12:11,640
In prison journaled. So journaling is a you know, man's man.

1474
01:12:11,840 --> 01:12:14,439
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, do you do you feel that like some

1475
01:12:14,479 --> 01:12:17,319
guys like feel that there's a like a negative or

1476
01:12:17,319 --> 01:12:23,159
almost like uh, you know, like what's a feminine like

1477
01:12:23,319 --> 01:12:25,760
quality to journaling? It's just not masculine?

1478
01:12:27,439 --> 01:12:30,439
Speaker 2: Do you know any do you see a lot of podcasters.

1479
01:12:29,800 --> 01:12:33,119
Speaker 1: Or I mean, you know talking about to that point,

1480
01:12:33,119 --> 01:12:34,880
I know there was a lot that you know, there's

1481
01:12:35,479 --> 01:12:36,640
the manisphere, right.

1482
01:12:36,720 --> 01:12:36,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1483
01:12:37,039 --> 01:12:40,279
Speaker 1: I don't want to even get we can do this

1484
01:12:40,319 --> 01:12:43,079
again talk about to talk about that because you no,

1485
01:12:43,319 --> 01:12:48,239
Like I think, because I intentionally surround myself with people

1486
01:12:48,359 --> 01:12:52,279
who have a sense of positivity or who are driven,

1487
01:12:53,479 --> 01:12:57,720
you know, I don't think about what that negativity is now. Unfortunately,

1488
01:12:57,760 --> 01:12:59,760
you turn on the TV or you start scrolling and

1489
01:12:59,840 --> 01:13:02,560
you start seeing it. But I can just turn it off,

1490
01:13:02,680 --> 01:13:07,279
you know. Like again, I reached a point I think

1491
01:13:07,439 --> 01:13:09,520
towards the end of my thirties going into my forties.

1492
01:13:09,560 --> 01:13:12,840
And I think it also coincided with me getting involved

1493
01:13:12,840 --> 01:13:15,479
with CrossFit and so forth, long before I ever started

1494
01:13:15,520 --> 01:13:18,159
coaching that I just started. It changed my perspective on

1495
01:13:18,199 --> 01:13:22,680
a lot of things. And you know, while I think

1496
01:13:22,720 --> 01:13:25,239
sometimes I need to step out of my little bubble

1497
01:13:25,880 --> 01:13:28,880
to remember, oh hey, it's not like this everywhere, right,

1498
01:13:29,359 --> 01:13:32,840
And so you know, if you're listening or watching right now,

1499
01:13:33,840 --> 01:13:35,520
who's it going to hurt? Who's even going to know

1500
01:13:35,640 --> 01:13:37,720
that you're journaling? You know, at the end of the day,

1501
01:13:37,840 --> 01:13:41,279
that's fair. If all you're doing is improving yourself, then

1502
01:13:41,960 --> 01:13:42,319
you know.

1503
01:13:42,560 --> 01:13:44,920
Speaker 2: So the people around you. I think if you lean

1504
01:13:44,920 --> 01:13:48,920
into this will start noticing changes in you. But that's

1505
01:13:48,960 --> 01:13:49,479
what I hope for.

1506
01:13:49,640 --> 01:13:54,640
Speaker 1: Again. It's easy, right, or it can be at the

1507
01:13:54,760 --> 01:13:57,600
very least right, But I know, you know, we all

1508
01:13:57,640 --> 01:14:00,600
face our challenges and they're all some them are deep,

1509
01:14:01,159 --> 01:14:04,760
you know, but I think they are you Overcomeable is

1510
01:14:04,800 --> 01:14:05,760
overcomable word?

1511
01:14:05,960 --> 01:14:08,000
Speaker 2: I don't know. Katie and I have a word for this.

1512
01:14:08,039 --> 01:14:11,920
It's called figure out able. That's even more non word.

1513
01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:15,560
Speaker 3: No, no, no, I've seen that the new Oxford. Yeah yeah, yeah,

1514
01:14:16,479 --> 01:14:18,119
I think it's twenty twenty seven version.

1515
01:14:18,319 --> 01:14:20,560
Speaker 2: Overcomable is good, but figure out a ble is.

1516
01:14:21,199 --> 01:14:23,399
Speaker 3: No, it is pretty good. I like it, all right, sir.

1517
01:14:23,479 --> 01:14:24,119
Let me ask you this.

1518
01:14:24,159 --> 01:14:26,159
Speaker 1: And I think we started this by you asking me.

1519
01:14:27,359 --> 01:14:29,359
There's going to be some behind the scenes stuff, guys,

1520
01:14:29,359 --> 01:14:31,760
and I don't know if this was part of it

1521
01:14:31,880 --> 01:14:33,720
or once we actually started the podcast.

1522
01:14:33,520 --> 01:14:35,079
Speaker 2: By behind the scenes. Just put it out there.

1523
01:14:35,239 --> 01:14:36,880
Speaker 1: Put it out there. It's not gonna behind the scenes

1524
01:14:36,920 --> 01:14:38,840
once it's out there. Just hey, I'm just gonna put

1525
01:14:38,880 --> 01:14:41,880
behind this to try to drive by the way.

1526
01:14:41,960 --> 01:14:43,159
Speaker 3: Yeah no, oh, I'm a big fan.

1527
01:14:43,199 --> 01:14:43,800
Speaker 1: Oh don't you wait.

1528
01:14:44,079 --> 01:14:45,640
Speaker 3: We're gonna have tons of shorts of this man.

1529
01:14:46,000 --> 01:14:46,560
Speaker 1: Yeah no.

1530
01:14:46,640 --> 01:14:48,119
Speaker 3: But you started by.

1531
01:14:48,039 --> 01:14:50,760
Speaker 1: Asking me what my goal was, Yes, all right, So

1532
01:14:50,800 --> 01:14:54,640
we're going to end the questions by asking you what

1533
01:14:55,159 --> 01:14:57,000
is your long term goal.

1534
01:14:57,680 --> 01:14:59,640
Speaker 2: When it comes to business or just in general.

1535
01:15:00,800 --> 01:15:01,279
Speaker 1: Here we go.

1536
01:15:01,359 --> 01:15:06,319
Speaker 3: You tell me, or you can make a list, you

1537
01:15:06,319 --> 01:15:08,000
know a little bit of everything.

1538
01:15:08,039 --> 01:15:13,199
Speaker 2: No, I have I have a couple of goals. My

1539
01:15:13,199 --> 01:15:17,960
My number one goal right now is to find purpose

1540
01:15:18,039 --> 01:15:20,760
and meaning in the work that I'm doing. I think

1541
01:15:20,840 --> 01:15:23,399
that the job that I have does quite a bit

1542
01:15:23,479 --> 01:15:25,359
of that, but there's more that I want to do.

1543
01:15:26,439 --> 01:15:32,680
They're so like, there's so often I'm in the I'm in.

1544
01:15:33,279 --> 01:15:35,720
I'll come in on a Saturday, I'll have a great workout,

1545
01:15:35,920 --> 01:15:40,439
be surrounded by fantastic people. We'll grab some Chipotle, head home,

1546
01:15:40,640 --> 01:15:41,279
get in the pool.

1547
01:15:42,840 --> 01:15:44,239
Speaker 1: That's the dream, the life.

1548
01:15:44,399 --> 01:15:48,600
Speaker 2: It's a life that I never imagined that could happen

1549
01:15:48,800 --> 01:15:53,560
for me. And I want to help as many people

1550
01:15:53,600 --> 01:15:56,800
as I can have the same experience to achieve a

1551
01:15:56,840 --> 01:15:59,960
life that they never imagine possible for them. So, I mean,

1552
01:16:00,199 --> 01:16:00,399
you know.

1553
01:16:00,399 --> 01:16:03,319
Speaker 1: What's fascinating to that, Like the day you listed coming

1554
01:16:03,359 --> 01:16:06,239
into the gym, have an amazing workout, surround yourself with

1555
01:16:06,279 --> 01:16:08,560
amazing people, Grab some Chipotle. I'm a fan, by the way,

1556
01:16:09,000 --> 01:16:13,039
go home, have some lunch, jump in the pool. That

1557
01:16:13,159 --> 01:16:17,720
is it again, I don't want to diminish it by

1558
01:16:17,720 --> 01:16:19,960
saying that seems like a simple goal, you know, but

1559
01:16:20,000 --> 01:16:23,439
it's it's it's so beautiful and it's simplicity. I think

1560
01:16:23,479 --> 01:16:26,800
a lot of times people like overlook how amazing that is.

1561
01:16:27,039 --> 01:16:29,079
Speaker 2: You know, so I want to I want to help.

1562
01:16:29,159 --> 01:16:30,880
My goal is to help as many people Katie and

1563
01:16:30,920 --> 01:16:33,199
I as the goals, help as many people like live

1564
01:16:33,239 --> 01:16:34,239
that experience. Yeah.

1565
01:16:34,279 --> 01:16:35,960
Speaker 1: Absolutely, And you.

1566
01:16:35,920 --> 01:16:40,520
Speaker 2: Know we were talking earlier about you know, doing this

1567
01:16:40,600 --> 01:16:43,680
full time and be able to travel more and all

1568
01:16:43,720 --> 01:16:46,680
those types of things. So we have goals around that,

1569
01:16:47,439 --> 01:16:51,319
financial goals, health goals, but you know, from a from

1570
01:16:51,319 --> 01:16:56,479
a business standpoint, and like the goal I'm most excited

1571
01:16:56,520 --> 01:16:58,159
about right now is that.

1572
01:16:58,479 --> 01:17:01,199
Speaker 1: So that's amazing. And first of all, I just want

1573
01:17:01,239 --> 01:17:03,119
to again thank you for being here.

1574
01:17:02,840 --> 01:17:03,560
Speaker 3: Sure, thank you for.

1575
01:17:03,560 --> 01:17:07,720
Speaker 1: Joining me the very first episode of Summerhouse with Sam.

1576
01:17:08,640 --> 01:17:10,880
I appreciate so much. And we've talked about doing this

1577
01:17:10,920 --> 01:17:12,680
for a long time. I know I've been been in

1578
01:17:12,760 --> 01:17:16,439
your here for a long time. And actually, if you're

1579
01:17:16,439 --> 01:17:19,560
listening or watching right now, Alan was one of the

1580
01:17:19,720 --> 01:17:22,039
very first people. Actually he might have been the first

1581
01:17:22,079 --> 01:17:26,479
person I'm not married to that I told that I

1582
01:17:26,520 --> 01:17:29,399
am doing this Summerhouse thing. I am doing this can

1583
01:17:29,680 --> 01:17:32,880
please please don't say I am so excited for you.

1584
01:17:32,960 --> 01:17:33,880
Thank you, like.

1585
01:17:36,000 --> 01:17:39,000
Speaker 2: You're the right person doing the right thing at the

1586
01:17:39,079 --> 01:17:41,880
right time. I appreciate that, and this is going to

1587
01:17:41,920 --> 01:17:43,560
be great for you.

1588
01:17:43,720 --> 01:17:46,640
Speaker 1: I do. I appreciate that, and more than appreciate, I

1589
01:17:46,760 --> 01:17:50,079
value that because that means a lot. You know, I

1590
01:17:50,119 --> 01:17:52,319
am not everybody's cup of tea, or you know what

1591
01:17:52,359 --> 01:17:55,199
I mean. I am a little different than a lot

1592
01:17:55,239 --> 01:17:57,880
of the people that I know. But I enjoyed this

1593
01:17:58,159 --> 01:18:01,760
so much. I love this so much, and let's just

1594
01:18:01,920 --> 01:18:02,600
let's just see.

1595
01:18:02,479 --> 01:18:06,560
Speaker 2: Where we going. Different requires higher agency decision.

1596
01:18:06,319 --> 01:18:08,760
Speaker 1: Does it? I did not. I didn't know that, but

1597
01:18:09,119 --> 01:18:09,680
I'm proud.

1598
01:18:09,800 --> 01:18:10,439
Speaker 2: I'll take that.

1599
01:18:10,680 --> 01:18:13,119
Speaker 1: I might put that on a shirt. Guys, think about it.

1600
01:18:13,760 --> 01:18:16,079
High agency. Yes, you either get it or you don't.

1601
01:18:16,119 --> 01:18:18,279
You know, it's like I got it there somebody who

1602
01:18:18,399 --> 01:18:20,560
pointed me. All right. Now, if you know me, you

1603
01:18:20,640 --> 01:18:23,840
know I love questions. I love questions of the day.

1604
01:18:23,960 --> 01:18:26,159
I use them as part of my CrossFit classes as

1605
01:18:26,159 --> 01:18:29,600
far as coaching, and I also enjoy this or that

1606
01:18:29,880 --> 01:18:32,800
type of question. So we're going to play a quick version,

1607
01:18:33,359 --> 01:18:36,079
a gen X version of this or that.

1608
01:18:36,159 --> 01:18:37,720
Speaker 3: Okay, there is no wrong answer.

1609
01:18:38,600 --> 01:18:40,880
Speaker 1: People listening or watching may not agree, but they're as

1610
01:18:40,880 --> 01:18:42,760
far as I'm concerned, there is no wrong answer.

1611
01:18:42,800 --> 01:18:45,359
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, you're ready yeah, all right.

1612
01:18:45,319 --> 01:18:48,119
Speaker 1: As quickly as possible. And if I remember, guys, I'm

1613
01:18:48,159 --> 01:18:50,640
going to put a ticking clock to this. Okay, ready,

1614
01:18:50,680 --> 01:18:51,880
three to two one? Here we go.

1615
01:18:53,079 --> 01:18:58,159
Speaker 4: Sesame Street or Reading Rainbow, Reading Boom cassettes or CDs,

1616
01:18:58,239 --> 01:19:05,199
CD BHS or DVD's Atari or Nintendo the A Team

1617
01:19:05,399 --> 01:19:06,359
or night Writer.

1618
01:19:09,640 --> 01:19:12,079
Speaker 1: Tough one, right, you know.

1619
01:19:12,159 --> 01:19:17,439
Speaker 2: Night Writers down, it's just a Tesla eighteen or night

1620
01:19:17,479 --> 01:19:19,239
Writer eighteen.

1621
01:19:19,359 --> 01:19:26,319
Speaker 1: Okay, Tupac or Biggie.

1622
01:19:25,119 --> 01:19:25,520
Speaker 2: Tupac.

1623
01:19:25,680 --> 01:19:30,760
Speaker 1: Alrighty Voltron or Transformers, it's a tough one.

1624
01:19:30,880 --> 01:19:31,439
Speaker 2: Transformer.

1625
01:19:31,600 --> 01:19:35,039
Speaker 1: Oh, that's tough. That's tough. Name brand or store brand,

1626
01:19:35,640 --> 01:19:38,760
store brand Boom, that's what I'm talking about. Terminator or

1627
01:19:38,800 --> 01:19:46,399
the Predator. We can even throw RoboCop in there if

1628
01:19:46,439 --> 01:19:46,960
you want.

1629
01:19:49,399 --> 01:19:49,840
Speaker 2: Predator.

1630
01:19:50,199 --> 01:19:53,399
Speaker 1: And finally, and this is a big one, Jurassic Park

1631
01:19:53,600 --> 01:19:59,560
or Rocky and I understand we have to get Katie

1632
01:20:00,239 --> 01:20:01,479
watch Rocky.

1633
01:20:01,560 --> 01:20:02,039
Speaker 2: Is that girl?

1634
01:20:03,079 --> 01:20:05,199
Speaker 3: Sure she doesn't need to see it?

1635
01:20:05,199 --> 01:20:05,640
Speaker 2: You see that?

1636
01:20:05,720 --> 01:20:09,079
Speaker 1: Right? Okay? Let me ask you this then real quick,

1637
01:20:09,119 --> 01:20:12,079
and we'll wrap this up. Favorite Rocky movie all time?

1638
01:20:15,399 --> 01:20:17,239
Probably you can include the Creeds.

1639
01:20:17,079 --> 01:20:21,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, probably Rocky three.

1640
01:20:21,039 --> 01:20:22,239
Speaker 3: Oh, Clever Lang.

1641
01:20:22,600 --> 01:20:25,119
Speaker 1: It will always hold a special place in my heart.

1642
01:20:25,199 --> 01:20:26,840
First movie ever saw in a movie theater.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, for me, it was Apollo training rock Rocky and

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Apollo teaching Rocky that he can change.

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Speaker 3: Did he have low agency?

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Speaker 2: He did, Yeah, he did, but he developed the agency

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on the course of that.

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Speaker 1: Guy's Rocky three.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So you remember the scene where he finally clicked

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for him. There's a scene in the movie where he's

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running on the beach.

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Speaker 1: There is no tomorrow that well, yeah, no, because he's like, tomorrow,

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we do tomorrow. No.

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Speaker 3: Well, there's two scenes right, Well, no, there's the one

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with his wife.

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Speaker 2: There's a woman his wife when he admits to her.

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Speaker 1: Uh huh, he's he's afraid, very scared, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So he finally took the mirror, looked back in

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the mirror and said, I'm afraid. Uh huh. And so

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he's do that, He's ready to go.

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Speaker 1: I'm not watching right now. I literally just got chills, goosebumps,

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01:21:12,520 --> 01:21:14,119
my arms. And I'll tell you why. He said, man

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in the mirror. You mentioned the mirror. There is a

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scene in the first Rocky where he is in his bathroom,

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in his tiny place and he is in front of

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the mirror just looking at himself. And there's a great scene.

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And again file this under the category you didn't ask

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what I'm telling you anyway. Right, there's a scene where

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he is in bed, laying there and he's saying all

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he wants to do is go the distance. He doesn't

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even need to win, he just wants to prove himself worthy.

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And I think, like, again, that gets me every time

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I've seen the movie a thousand times. That scene.

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Speaker 2: Now, let's keep going. Okay, this is great, by the way,

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Before let's go, let's go Rocky too. After the birth

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of his baby, his wife says to him, there's only

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one thing I want from you from now. She's like

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to win.

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Speaker 1: Win.

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Speaker 2: So now his subconscious is in alignment with his conscious

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to win, not go the distance, but win.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Different, Yeah, absolutely.

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01:22:12,640 --> 01:22:15,079
Speaker 2: Right, different, different story, different outcome.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. And then moving into three, he's had the evolution

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where he has been the success that he always knew

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and others who loved him knew he could be the father,

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the husband.

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Speaker 3: And then what happens It all gets taken away.

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01:22:30,279 --> 01:22:32,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, Mickey dies, he transitions.

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Speaker 3: Spoiler Sorry, I'm just kidding. It's been out for forty years.

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01:22:36,600 --> 01:22:39,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then he starts making low agency decisions because

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his framework, his frame of reference is gone. Yeah, so

1693
01:22:42,560 --> 01:22:45,760
now he's telling him telling, telling himself these stories that

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are true.

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01:22:47,640 --> 01:22:49,479
Speaker 3: You don't have to do this again with movies.

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01:22:49,600 --> 01:22:49,880
Speaker 2: Just move.

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01:22:49,960 --> 01:22:51,039
Speaker 3: We're just gonna talk movies.

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01:22:51,079 --> 01:22:54,880
Speaker 1: That's all right, awesome, So again, mister Allen Thompson, did

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I get that right? Thank you again for being the

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very first guest on Summer House with Sam. It means

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the world to me. I cannot even convey to you

1702
01:23:03,680 --> 01:23:08,760
how impactful this conversation has been. Guys, if you're listening,

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01:23:08,840 --> 01:23:11,600
thank you so much for joining us today. Mister Allen Thompson.

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01:23:11,600 --> 01:23:15,600
Where can listeners get more information about everything we discussed today?

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much for listening. I have been sam ay Ella, thank

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you for joining us here Summerhouse with Sam, Stay amazed.

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Speaker 3: We'll see you next time.