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Michael Recht and Walders back. How you doing, Michael?

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Speaker 2: Meryl Good?

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Speaker 1: How are you a PETE doing good? Doing good? You

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were on in August because you were promoting the fact

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that you were forming at that point, you didn't. I

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think the website was like brand new, like a couple

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And I think I told you somebody got really mad

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Speaker 2: Sure, So you know, we've had a really big boost.

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about seven or eight other candidates we're going to endorse

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Speaker 1: That just tells me that you and at any two

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hundred is busy right now. They you know, they have

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they haven't noticed you yet. The yeah, that's a very

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real thing. Karayaku, John Karayaku former CIA. Now, whenever we

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for justifying the state of Israel. And then can't I

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think they want to promote it in the US and

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sort of to and then use it to say, look,

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pretext for increasing Zionist power and control. That's what they're

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happened because we're Jewish. The reason they did it is

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because they're Muslim and it's a hateful ideology. And no,

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they just decided that they were going to televise that

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and they actually had a telegram channel where they were

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promoting what they what they were openly doing and showing

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their worst atrocities on this telegram channel. It I don't think.

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that either you have so much people are so invested

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in you as a people no matter what you do,

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they're going to support you, or that you have to

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you've completely misjudged that you can get away with basically

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trying to ethnically cleanse and you know, mass murder people,

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and think that, okay, we nobody can come against us now,

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Speaker 2: It looks to me like they're suggesting that we're going

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to put it in your faces.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: Our power is basically irresistible. There's nothing you can do,

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so we're just going to stick it in your face.

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was they knew there would be live stream, that there

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was no way around it, and they had their own soldiers,

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you know, uploading atrocity videos effectively all the time, and

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they're all saved by many by some organizations that we

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If we can show you that we can undertake this

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with no opposition from the international community, then we have

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exhibited our omnipotence with reference to you, and you have

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no power, and likewise you're going to be demoralized and

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defeated by virtue of our demonstration of unmitigated crimes against humanity,

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Speaker 1: Well, it helps to have the most powerful, richest nation

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your side is through bribery and subversion and getting your

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bullshit that they promote. Is Adam Curry and John John C.

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a couple of years ago that the United States controls

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wealth that it's it's a synergism that you're basically sucking

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the resources out of the United States to Israel because

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of in the anti Zionist milieu. There are two basic

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US and Israel. The left leaning so called anti Zionists

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Western imperialist colony and the United States is pulling the strings,

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using Israel as a kind of outpost and all that.

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it's it's demonstrably false because it's clear that, look, when

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a ruling class deals with the their underlings, they suck

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resources from that from that underling class. And that's exactly

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what the relationship is between Israel and the United States.

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They extort us for our wealth, our money, our arms,

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not I don't know most half of Randy Fine's constituency,

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which he really doesn't have. I mean, he went in

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there on a special election, don't support what Israel is doing.

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Probably realize that even if they just went at it

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from an economic standpoint, we can't afford to be giving

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I think that we give another five hundred another five

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hundred and fifty million was included.

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Speaker 2: Hundred million, six hundred jew I think it was.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, So it's and that means that this year,

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in the calendar year twenty twenty five, Israel has gotten

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forty billion dollars from the United has sucked forty billion

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dollars in the United States, on top of the three

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point eight billion that we send them every year so

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that they won't wage war with Egypt. So one thing

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that you you really, if you really want to realize

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how Israel and they're diaspora here control the whole control

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all of this is the fact that, you know, the

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majority of people don't want it, but it's going to

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continue to happen. I mean, how many people in how

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many people in Congress have not taken money from some

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kind of Jewish lobby everybody says apac. There's other groups

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that they do that I could think of, you know,

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like Massy and the there's a I can't remember the

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name of the guy from Georgia who took eight dollars

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from them, and the joke is that they took him

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to Starbucks and he told them to go fuck themselves.

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what you have is you just have politicians who are

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completely loyal to another country. Many of them will openly

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admit that they have loyalty to Israel more than they

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have loyalties to the United States. Representative Don Bacon from

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Nebraska says it's for biblical reasons. He'd rather see the

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United States destroyed than Israel. He said that to He

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told me that on on Twitter and the you know,

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so basically the country, the people don't want this, but

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all of the all of the politicians are paid off.

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And that's what you're that's your Soaphian task, is you're

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that that You're you're pushing this stone up a hill

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to expose this and get people in there who won't

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take money from from from the Jewish lobby. But you know,

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a lot of people said they wouldn't take you know,

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they weren't going to do that. If they got in

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there and they ended up doing it, so well, I

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would hope. I would hope if they're I, yeah, we're.

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Speaker 2: Getting pledges signed so that if they if they accept

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our money, that they have to sign a pledge basically

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that says they will not take any Zionist or Israeli

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backed or supportive money. A patch j Street, koofy, the

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whole panoply. I mean, there's so many it's hard to

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even name them all. I should have them on the

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top of my tongue, but I'm not that interesting.

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Speaker 1: So there's there's too many. Yeah, A buddy of mine says,

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if you just take the letter J and add any

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two letters to it in any formation and you google it,

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you're going to come up with a Jewish foundation.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, they got foundations coming out to Kazoo.

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So one of the other things that I want to

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do and is to form a think tank. We need

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a think tank to counter je Zionist propaganda, Zionist history,

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Zionist intellectual uh work, if there is any, and to

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really have you know, at our disposal the kind of

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research and intellectual backing that we need to do what

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we're what we have to do. I think I think

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tank is the next step.

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Speaker 1: You had mentioned earlier, the divide between leftist and rightist

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anti Zionists and the leftist see it, you know, it's

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a colonial power and you know, and a lot of

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those leftists are anti white and that's the reason why

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they the reason why they don't see Zionists. They they

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look at this country in the Middle East, is they

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they look white. And but then if you ask, if

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you ask them, they'll say they're not white, they're Jewish, right.

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But the but yeah, I'm one of these people who's like,

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I don't I don't want to side by side march

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with these leftist anti Zionists or with them for anything,

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But I'm definitely not going to counter signal them. Zionis power.

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Zionis power needs to be destroyed, and me and my

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friends and people that I respect and people that I

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agree with, if we don't do it, and it's the

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other group that does it, and it's the leftist that

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doesn't do it, even if they hate us, I'm fine

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with that. We just need that enemy destroyed. We can

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deal with that other enemy afterwards, because actually that other

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enemy is one that protects a lot of these people

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who are anti white and promote that and promote that

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whole ideology.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I've tried to talk about this in

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terms of domestic Zionism is one of the things that

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the anti Zionist left doesn't really grasp, and that is

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the policies that really are promoted by the same cabaul,

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by the same people, and that you know, of course

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that first of all has to do with our freedom

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of speech, which they're trying to revoke in the name

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of anti Semitism using this Anti Semitism Awareness Act, which

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who knows what the status of this thing is in

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terms of the public, in terms of the population outside

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of colleges where it definitely applies. They're using that to effectively,

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you know, expel students from universities, and I think they

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want to rule it out more broadly. And other parts

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of domestic Zionism I would call I would talk about

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would be the immigration policies, which are I think domestic Zionism,

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because they want to weaken let's be real, I mean,

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they want to weaken the fabric, the social fabric of

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the host countries. And you know this gives them greater

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control over these countries, and they don't want any unified

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say nationalist movements. Nationalism is of course their biggest political enemy.

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They hate nationalism because nationalism doesn't work for them in

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terms of power, and they want all of this multiculturalism.

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Of course, we know all that they promoted this multiculturalism

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because they feel endangered as a minority otherwise or something

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to that effect. They like it better when there's more

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minorities and no block of say white power, that would

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be their biggest fear. So I call that domestic Zionism.

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And in this iteration right now, at least of as

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a pact, we're not focusing on domestic Zionism because that's

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what's going to split the left and right over this,

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and we are trying to breach, or I should say,

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to bridge the gap between left and right in terms

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of this particular enemy. That the main enemy that we have,

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which is the Zionist ruling class. We've got to overthrow them.

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So we're going to have to We're gonna have to

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alli with these people to some extent. And I've had

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you know, interesting shall I say, these anti Zionist left

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has tried to put me an ass a pack through

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kinds of litanus tests, and you know, in a couple

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of cases we failed the litmus test for them because

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they don't want any Like I had a group that

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was we were working with and we were getting along

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just great, and they apparently I didn't know they were

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particularly leftist as such, but after they dug up some

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tweets of mine about Black Lives Matter and how I

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said that it wasn't I said in a tweet, it's

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not illegal to hold white nationalist views, but it is

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illegal to burn down people's you know, burn down cities,

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and that that was a disqualification for them to work

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with as a Pact because I had said that, I said, yeah,

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I will not I don't. I won't deviate from that.

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I'm not going to apologize it. I believe in property rights,

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and I don't think you can justify burning down people's

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property because you don't like their thoughts, even thoughts that

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you're imputing to them. You don't even know what they

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hold as their thoughts, what they believe. So I mean, yeah,

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we've had this with the anti Zionist left, but we're

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still trying to work with them. And we also got

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rebuffed by a candidate in California, Butch Ware, who's running

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for governor there, which we were going to enter into

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because California is such a huge economy and if we

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could get BDS legalized there or at least have California

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cease from funding using you know, using BDS to to

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defund Israel, that would be big. But they rejected us

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on similar grounds. They said that my affiliation this was

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their campaign manager, my affiliation with the Mesas Caucus of

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the Libertarian Party was a bridge too far because they

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are Confederists. They want the Confederacy back, which I've I

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looked in Vain to find where they had ever said that,

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but just ludicrous stuff like that. So but we're persevering

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and we'll still try to reach out to them and

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work with leftists, and we're not going to you know,

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we're not discriminating against candidates based on their political party

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or even their political ideology other than their anti Zionism

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right now, because as you said, we can solve those

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questions later. What kind of economic system should we have,

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What's who's a citizen who belongs here who doesn't? Immigration questions,

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all that stuff we can we can sort out, but

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we can't do it under these terms, under these conditions.

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Under these conditions, we can't do anything except you know

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what our government do behave strictly at the behest and

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to the so called benefit of Israel.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's clearly an occupation, and you know the historically,

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what I know about occupations is eventually they are going

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to go kinetic. I mean, I think you and I

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probably have done enough research on quote unquote Muslim terrorism

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to know that that pops up when there's occupation. And

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you know, also the IRA was the same thing. With

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the IRA, I mean, they when did they become quote

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unquote terrorists? They became terrorists when they were being occupied

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and that seems like that that's when that happens. And

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making it very clear and bragging. I mean they're they're

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literally bragging about how much power they have. They put

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out all these all of these videos. They had that

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World Jewish Congress video a couple of years ago, where

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you know, they have this girl with the all seeing

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eye pendant on her on her neck. I mean, it

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was straight out of Central casting talking about how, you know,

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Jews were responsible for gay marriage, responsible for women voting,

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were responsible for the Civil Rights Act, or you know,

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and they had Harvey Milk. You know, somebody who you

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know would would woo fourteen and fifteen year old boot.

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I mean, they brag about this stuff. It is a

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demoralization campaign, but it's also their way, their way of

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saying that they own that we own you. You know,

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we own this country, right, we can do whatever we

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want in this country. And yeah, I don't know that

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you can really break bread with people who say that

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the Mesas Caucus was neo Confederate or that you know,

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you're you didn't support BLM. But you know there are

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people like you know, you know, I mean, yeah, say

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whatever you want about his personal life. It's it's heinous.

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But Glenn Greenwald does good work on this. Jimmy Dore

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is a leftist, he does good work on this. I

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mean the the Due Dissidence podcast. This is two Jewish

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guys who are always on Jimmy Door show. These guys

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are These guys are reading doctor, you know, Professor Shlomo

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San's book, The Invention of the Jewish People and going, oh,

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we're not even Jewish, We're converts, you know, from from

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centuries back, and you're you're watching this and you're like, sure,

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these guys, you know they I mean all of their

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they're all leftists and area, but they're not the insane

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leftists who were like sharing sharing cities getting burnt down.

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So you know, even if you don't want to stand

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side by side with them, you know, you don't counter

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signal them. They're doing They're doing the Lord's work, you know.

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And yeah, that's it's interesting.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, interestingly you brought up dude dissonance. I was on there.

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They actually had me on and that went really well,

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and I found out some very interesting facts about the

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one of the guys. I don't speak with complete authority here,

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but from what I understand. It's actually from Pittsburgh, where

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I'm from and where I live now. And he's also

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the cousin of Barry Weiss. Yeah yeah, the Harry speak.

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I mean, that's amazing, right, this guy is a totally

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anti Zionist and you know, he's Jewish and he is

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cousins with Barry Weiss. Of course, Perry Weiss, we know,

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is a major feature of this Zionist propaganda Apparatuss. She's

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you know, taken over CBS News then now installed a

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new host for the CBS Evening News who is also

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a Jewish convert who wrote an article about his circumcision

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and adulthood.

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Speaker 1: So I'm believing was normal. That sounds normal.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. He wrote this article about how he had

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to be cut in order to be healed with the

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Jewish people, he had to be cut to be healed,

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you know. So you know, so he gave up part

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of his dick to be a Jew, basically came right

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and effectively said that. And in adulthood, imagine adult circumcision,

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Oh my god.

474
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Speaker 1: And I know it's I know, adult adult men who've

475
00:33:14,519 --> 00:33:17,319
had to have that done because, you know, for because

476
00:33:17,839 --> 00:33:22,640
of like recurring infections, it's it's Hannah's. I mean what

477
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,880
they describe was Hannahs And yeah, those are the kind

478
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,519
of articles that I don't think that they wrote. I

479
00:33:28,559 --> 00:33:31,640
think those articles were written for them, much like and

480
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,839
I will say this right now, Charlie Kirk's new book

481
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:39,720
on how Christians his his post his book that's being

482
00:33:39,799 --> 00:33:45,079
posthumously published, How Christians Will be Blessed by Keeping the Sabbath,

483
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:49,839
and and Erica Kirk saying that Charlie would come home

484
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:53,079
on Friday night and put his phone in a drawer

485
00:33:53,079 --> 00:33:57,519
and say Shabbat shalom. I mean this, this does not

486
00:33:57,799 --> 00:34:01,240
sound that, This doesn't sound. This sounds like it was

487
00:34:01,279 --> 00:34:03,400
written by other people. Just like when you look at

488
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:04,839
the notes, when you look at the notes in the

489
00:34:04,839 --> 00:34:07,880
Schofield Bible, you're like the Theodore Hurtzel, right these I mean,

490
00:34:08,639 --> 00:34:10,199
where do these come from?

491
00:34:10,559 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 2: Exactly? Well, they're saying also, they're saying Charlie Kirk was Jewish.

492
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:17,159
That's what they're saying. Now did you hear that one?

493
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Speaker 1: I've heard that one. Yeah. Well, I mean if he's

494
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:23,239
coming home on Friday night and putting his phone away

495
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:27,239
and saying Shabat shalom. Yeah, well, I mean, if that's

496
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:30,840
true and she's not completely mk ultraed out or something

497
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,320
like that, then that tells me a lot.

498
00:34:33,639 --> 00:34:36,079
Speaker 2: I don't I don't have much faith in anything she says.

499
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,400
I don't know what the story is with her, but

500
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:41,719
it seems to me almost as if you know, it's

501
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,760
it's a strange thing. But in a certain moment, I'll think,

502
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,639
I wonder if his whole marriage and everything was a

503
00:34:47,679 --> 00:34:52,599
complete stage operation. Uh. You know that's what it looks

504
00:34:52,679 --> 00:34:58,280
like in the out in the with the uh.

505
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 1: I'll tell you.

506
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,400
Speaker 2: I'll tell you that since his death, it looks like

507
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:06,719
the whole marriage was like an part of an operation.

508
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,800
Speaker 1: Well, I will tell you this. I go on Michael

509
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:15,119
Ferris's podcast often Coffee and a Mike Great podcast he has.

510
00:35:16,199 --> 00:35:19,440
I mean, he is such a heterodox, he'll talk to anyone,

511
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:22,559
and you know, I enjoy him allowing me to come

512
00:35:22,599 --> 00:35:25,719
on there and rant about the JQ.

513
00:35:26,639 --> 00:35:27,360
Speaker 2: Yeah.

514
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,320
Speaker 1: But he told me he lives he lives in Arizona,

515
00:35:30,679 --> 00:35:34,280
and he says he would go to the grocery store.

516
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:36,800
He's a single man, so he would go to the

517
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:41,360
grocery store and he would see Charlie Kirk there buying

518
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:52,400
groceries alone. Now, I'm how many men, married, men with

519
00:35:52,599 --> 00:35:56,559
kids go grocery shopping alone?

520
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's typically not how it's done. You

521
00:35:59,159 --> 00:36:01,960
either go with your wife or your wife does it. Frankly,

522
00:36:02,639 --> 00:36:06,519
I mean, you know, uh yeah, there's something fishy there.

523
00:36:06,559 --> 00:36:08,119
I don't know what it is, and I'm not going

524
00:36:08,159 --> 00:36:11,239
to speculate too much. And we called it low iq,

525
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:12,920
anti Semite or some shit.

526
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 1: But anybody who accuses you of be a low iq,

527
00:36:17,559 --> 00:36:18,760
Michael is low iq.

528
00:36:19,599 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 2: Thanks.

529
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:28,760
Speaker 1: But but the you know, getting back to this, you know,

530
00:36:29,079 --> 00:36:33,280
your pack and getting people elected and supporting people who

531
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:38,199
are running on an anti Zionist platform. I mean, first

532
00:36:38,199 --> 00:36:39,440
of all, that takes some balls.

533
00:36:40,199 --> 00:36:42,320
Speaker 2: I mean, because maybe I'm crazy.

534
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 1: Well, well, I'm not even only talking about you, you know,

535
00:36:47,079 --> 00:36:51,079
I'm talking about the person who will run on the platform.

536
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:54,239
Because you are, You're going to be called everything in

537
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:58,960
the book. And there is a really good chance that

538
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:03,280
if you don't get elected, if you're not independently wealthy,

539
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,280
if you're not if you don't own your own business,

540
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:10,639
he may be un you may not be employable. I mean,

541
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,960
who said this recently? Oh, Piers Morgan said that Piers

542
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:19,159
Morgan when he was interviewing Fluentes said, you know, he

543
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:22,719
talked about Fuenttes his dad because Fenes had brought it up.

544
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:26,000
And later in the show, I don't know how many

545
00:37:26,039 --> 00:37:30,519
people picked up on this, but you know, Nick brings

546
00:37:30,599 --> 00:37:33,400
up him talking about his dad again, and then then

547
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,800
Morgan moves on. But then he comes back and he goes,

548
00:37:37,559 --> 00:37:40,920
you know, employers really should be able to make a

549
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:44,039
decision about, you know, who they want to employ because

550
00:37:44,079 --> 00:37:44,960
of what they believe.

551
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:48,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, I heard him say that. Yeah he did say that.

552
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:52,119
I did hear that. That was very curious, as if

553
00:37:52,159 --> 00:37:54,920
he's trying to get Fluente's dad fired from whatever job

554
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:58,320
he has, And Flintees pushed back quite a bit on that,

555
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:02,239
and yeah, I mean that's what he said in effect.

556
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:08,559
So there's like some sort of you know, litmus tests

557
00:38:08,599 --> 00:38:10,639
that you have to pass in order to be employed,

558
00:38:11,519 --> 00:38:15,519
and anti Semitism is of course on the top.

559
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:19,400
Speaker 1: Of the list, you know, And it's not I've taken

560
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:22,880
a saying recently, it's you know, it's not anti semitism.

561
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:27,599
Anti Semitism is the phrase that they use. And too

562
00:38:27,639 --> 00:38:31,239
many of our people who are you know, who notice

563
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:34,199
all this stuff, will adopt it just like you know,

564
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:36,599
blacks are like, oh, we're taking the N word back.

565
00:38:39,039 --> 00:38:42,639
You know, I've taken to saying Judeo aware. Yeah, yeah,

566
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:46,800
you have to, you have to be aware that there's

567
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:51,840
this there's a not all of them, of course, I

568
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:56,039
mean that would be impossible, but there is this group

569
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:59,159
that there's this group that seeks power, a powerful group.

570
00:38:59,199 --> 00:39:03,800
They have a network and they work together. Yeah, left

571
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:07,239
wing quote unquote left wing and quote unquote right wing

572
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:11,639
Jewish people they work together hand in hand. And what's

573
00:39:11,679 --> 00:39:15,559
funny is even a lot of the times when you'll

574
00:39:15,599 --> 00:39:20,320
see right wing Jews cry about left wing Jews and

575
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:23,559
to cry them, and you'll see left wing Jews cry

576
00:39:23,599 --> 00:39:27,599
about right wing Jews and to cry them. The things

577
00:39:27,599 --> 00:39:32,719
that they're working towards, if they're activists, always seem to

578
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:37,960
compliment each other, like starting a war which opens the

579
00:39:38,039 --> 00:39:43,000
borders and you know, causes a refugee crisis. And so

580
00:39:43,039 --> 00:39:46,199
the left wing Jews are there saying no barber Lear inspectors.

581
00:39:46,199 --> 00:39:51,199
They're going, no, Europe will not survive unless it becomes multicultural. Right,

582
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:56,159
And it's like, oh, okay, well, I mean did you

583
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:59,920
just are we are we supposed first do we take

584
00:40:00,039 --> 00:40:04,480
as a threat. Second of all, do what are you

585
00:40:04,519 --> 00:40:06,840
saying and why are you saying this so openly? And

586
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:09,960
what do you mean? What do you mean that a

587
00:40:10,119 --> 00:40:14,519
continent that you know, the consists of countries, that consist

588
00:40:14,639 --> 00:40:18,760
of races of people that have survived for a thousand

589
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:23,920
years and in many cases much longer as a cohesive unit.

590
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:29,719
They won't survive unless they are unless every every prison

591
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,599
in Africa, in the Middle East is emptied and they're

592
00:40:32,679 --> 00:40:33,920
sent into Europe.

593
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, unbelievable, man, that's we talked about. One thing you

594
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:41,480
brought up that I reminds me of what we talked

595
00:40:41,519 --> 00:40:46,840
about last time, was that we notice that this group

596
00:40:47,119 --> 00:40:51,239
acts in concert with each other, that they are coordinating

597
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:54,880
their efforts, and they act as a group. And you

598
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:57,679
know the kind of grief I got from libertarians when

599
00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:04,039
I first started to saying the campaign and after for

600
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:08,159
noting that groups have sel you know, have interests, and

601
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:12,400
that they act in as groups. This was decried by

602
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:18,239
the libertarian contention as collectivism and that I was a

603
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:21,480
collectivist for noticing this. I said, no, no, I'm not

604
00:41:21,639 --> 00:41:27,039
the collectivist for noticing it. They're the collectivists for doing it. Okay,

605
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:29,679
so I mean, what's so hard for them to get?

606
00:41:30,199 --> 00:41:33,079
But yeah, that was a big point of contention and

607
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:38,280
lost me a lot of the libertarian movements. I would say,

608
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:41,639
it's interesting with as a pack, I've noted we haven't

609
00:41:41,679 --> 00:41:46,039
gotten too much libertarian support. To be honest.

610
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:49,400
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, if you work in a warehouse, you

611
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:54,239
don't really have a lot of you know, extra money. Yeah,

612
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:57,320
it's yeah. Well, I'm not saying there's a lot of

613
00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:02,320
libertarians that are very, very successful. I mean they they're

614
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:05,360
doing very well, but it seems like the loudest ones

615
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:07,880
that I that I encounter are ones where it's like,

616
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,960
did you just give up? Is like, you know, it's like,

617
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:15,360
I mean I've literally had libertarians. I remember in twenty

618
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:22,159
twenty one, I was talking to Matt Kingpilled, Mattam his

619
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:24,599
name is escaping, his last names escaping me now, but

620
00:42:24,679 --> 00:42:28,719
King Pilled, and you know, we were talking about you know, taxes,

621
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:31,840
having all these and you know, and how it destroys wealth.

622
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:35,639
And he said, well, just make more money. Yeah, and

623
00:42:35,679 --> 00:42:41,960
it was yeah, and liberty. These libertarians who I guess

624
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:45,039
they don't want to try, they've given up on life.

625
00:42:45,079 --> 00:42:48,159
Their excuse was well, if I make more money, I'm

626
00:42:48,159 --> 00:42:50,400
gonna end up paying more taxes and that'll just go

627
00:42:50,559 --> 00:42:53,840
to the war machine. And it's like, okay, so stay

628
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:58,280
fucking poor. That's what they want. That's what the power,

629
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:01,199
that's what this the power it be that you hate

630
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:04,840
so much that you that libertarians are like, they're illegitimate.

631
00:43:05,079 --> 00:43:07,719
They want you to be poor. They don't want you

632
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:12,199
to be able to fight against them. I mean, politics

633
00:43:12,639 --> 00:43:15,920
is about money. You know this, You've started a pack.

634
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:20,159
You can't do anything without money. The reason why the

635
00:43:20,159 --> 00:43:22,400
the reason why the left is so powerful is is

636
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:28,199
because leftists are revolutionaries. And even the billionaire leftists will

637
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:31,440
pour money into leftists and they don't care whether it's

638
00:43:31,519 --> 00:43:35,239
far they don't care whether they're far left psychopaths. They'll

639
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:36,039
give them money.

640
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:40,800
Speaker 2: In fact, it seems they prefer far left psychopaths over

641
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:41,199
the other.

642
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:45,840
Speaker 1: Yeah. And then and then on the right, it's like, oh, well,

643
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:50,760
you know, I'm sorry, but you know you you question

644
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:54,599
the post war consensus once, and you know we're not

645
00:43:54,639 --> 00:43:56,280
going to we can't give you any money.

646
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:56,559
Speaker 2: You know.

647
00:43:56,559 --> 00:43:58,800
Speaker 1: It's like it's like people on the right, or people

648
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:01,960
who think they're on the right, there really leftist when

649
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:04,679
it comes down to their core. You know, they're always

650
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:06,920
reaching out to the left. And the reason why they're

651
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:08,880
always reaching out to the left and punching to their

652
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:12,119
right is because they're leftists. They just think they just

653
00:44:12,199 --> 00:44:15,039
appear to be right wing because so much of this,

654
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:17,920
of what's happened in the social engineering regime for the

655
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:22,000
last hundred years has brought everything over to the left.

656
00:44:22,559 --> 00:44:26,559
So if you're historically right at all, and you know,

657
00:44:26,599 --> 00:44:30,679
I'm talking about you know, what most normal people believed

658
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:34,280
before the French Revolution, then you're like, they think you're

659
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:34,920
a psychopath.

660
00:44:35,679 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, that's correct.

661
00:44:37,639 --> 00:44:42,679
Speaker 1: Or a fascist or a fascist. You know, you're you

662
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:46,599
can't be trusted. You're you'll make us look bad. I

663
00:44:46,599 --> 00:44:49,599
mean that's literally what it is. It's like, well, you know,

664
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:53,559
because it's pretty much criminal to be right wing, really

665
00:44:53,639 --> 00:44:56,440
be right wing, a real right winger, you're just going

666
00:44:56,519 --> 00:44:59,320
to make us look bad because your right wing beliefs

667
00:45:00,039 --> 00:45:05,079
they don't fit in with you know, with our donors exactly.

668
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean that's uh, the idea that that

669
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:13,039
their right wing is a misnomer, I think, and uh,

670
00:45:14,639 --> 00:45:17,400
I was thinking of something else, but it's it's just

671
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:23,719
back to this whole thing about group action and group behavior. Uh,

672
00:45:25,639 --> 00:45:29,599
the idea that groups don't act in concert and have

673
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:34,480
agency as a group is ludicrous. That's a ridiculous idea

674
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:37,400
that that you know, and there isn't a sociologist on

675
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:41,599
the face of the earth that would ever say that's true,

676
00:45:41,679 --> 00:45:45,360
that that groups don't act in concert and for their

677
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:49,639
own interests. And so they certainly do. And the just

678
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:55,840
noticing it isn't isn't collectivism, it's it's actually just noticing.

679
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:59,840
It's just noticing patterns of behavior and noticing activities that

680
00:46:00,039 --> 00:46:03,800
work together in concert to achieve certain ends. And the

681
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:06,519
left right thing and for that is you're right, the

682
00:46:06,599 --> 00:46:09,599
left right. The left feeds the right, and the right

683
00:46:09,639 --> 00:46:14,519
feeds the left. The wars feed the immigration deluge, and

684
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:19,079
you know that feeds the left. So the right and left,

685
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:21,920
as far as this goes with the Zionist right and left,

686
00:46:23,519 --> 00:46:25,440
they're absolutely working hand in glove.

687
00:46:27,519 --> 00:46:31,159
Speaker 1: Yeah. I always point out to these libertarians who are

688
00:46:31,199 --> 00:46:34,480
such radical individualists that the first thing they do when

689
00:46:34,519 --> 00:46:37,840
they become a libertarian is look for other libertarians to

690
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:42,679
hang out with. Yeah, oh, well, we're not planning on Well, well,

691
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:46,320
it's not like we're coming together to collectivize to you know,

692
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:48,960
to do anything. Well maybe that's the problem.

693
00:46:49,559 --> 00:46:53,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, why have a party if you're not going

694
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:56,239
to come together as a collective to do something, it's absurd.

695
00:46:56,679 --> 00:46:59,800
So and then hold a philosophy that says, you know,

696
00:47:00,119 --> 00:47:03,880
we treat everything in terms of individuals, and so individual

697
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:07,199
behavior is all we're looking at, and that we don't

698
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:11,599
want to judge anybody based on anything other than their individuals,

699
00:47:13,159 --> 00:47:18,840
you know, desiderata, and we cannot, we cannot even look

700
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:23,199
at group behaviors if if it's real individuals act on

701
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:25,599
their own terms and for their own self interests, and

702
00:47:25,639 --> 00:47:29,039
that's it. Nothing else exists.

703
00:47:29,039 --> 00:47:34,159
Speaker 1: Sird Well, I think it's interesting that libertarianism and the

704
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:38,760
kind of libertarian like American libertarianism, or like the Murray

705
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:42,960
Rothbard and liberal v. Messus kind of liberty, the libric

706
00:47:43,079 --> 00:47:46,079
on Messis was a man of the old world, but

707
00:47:46,199 --> 00:47:51,280
a lot of the libertarianism that points to individualism. Yep,

708
00:47:52,599 --> 00:47:56,159
it's really odds It seems really odd to me that

709
00:47:56,159 --> 00:48:00,119
that really started gaining momentum right around the time and

710
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:05,480
that it was decided that monarchies were not were not

711
00:48:05,559 --> 00:48:07,639
we weren't going to have monarchies anymore. We were going

712
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:13,039
to have democracy. And you know, I think it's kind

713
00:48:13,039 --> 00:48:15,719
of hard to not notice that a lot of the

714
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:21,960
Libertarian thought leaders belong to a certain tribe, and that

715
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:28,880
when you're when you're pushing individualism and that is the

716
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:33,840
individual that matters, and the collectivizing and using the status

717
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:38,079
force and violence and all that, while every other group,

718
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:42,159
every other person outside of yours, is teaming up in

719
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:51,000
a group to collectivize get power, whether that be monetary power,

720
00:48:51,039 --> 00:48:53,400
whether it be political power, whether it be social power.

721
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:57,800
They're doing that, and you're sitting there. It seemed I

722
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:01,000
think you're going to lose. Yeah, I think you're going

723
00:49:01,079 --> 00:49:01,480
to lose.

724
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:04,239
Speaker 2: Absolutely, you're going to lose because you're just not you're

725
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:08,159
not noticing that, you're not taking into consideration any power

726
00:49:08,199 --> 00:49:11,400
in the collective that you want to begin that you say,

727
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:14,199
then you disavow being in a collective in the first place.

728
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:18,039
It's it's it's ridiculous. So you're, yeah, you're going to lose.

729
00:49:18,599 --> 00:49:22,719
And that's why frankly, and uh, hopefully this doesn't well,

730
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:25,039
I don't care. I guess that's why I said. The

731
00:49:25,039 --> 00:49:27,719
Libertarian Party is like never going anywhere.

732
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:32,760
Speaker 1: It's never going anywhere. I mean, it really can't. It's

733
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:37,079
your I think I think they may have taken it down,

734
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:41,079
but I think when I joined the Libertarian Party way

735
00:49:41,119 --> 00:49:45,440
back when you had to sign a pledge, at least

736
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:47,400
on the website, you had to check the box for

737
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:53,840
the pledge, you say that you you eschewed force personally

738
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:57,400
and politically, and it's like, okay, wait a minute, hold

739
00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:03,400
on politics is for Yeah, politics is sometimes you're going

740
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:06,599
to use force. Sometimes you're going to use violence. Now,

741
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:10,239
if you're a little atheist who sits there and you've

742
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:14,760
adopted libertarianism because you're an atheist and you need to

743
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:19,079
find a morality somewhere, So now you've adopted this, you know,

744
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:22,480
private property and the non aggression principle and all this

745
00:50:22,639 --> 00:50:27,559
other bullshit as your as your morality. Yeah, I mean

746
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:30,039
I can get it. But like the people who live

747
00:50:30,079 --> 00:50:35,039
in the real world, Yeah, they look around and they're like, well,

748
00:50:35,199 --> 00:50:40,800
I mean everyone else is using everyone else is using force,

749
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:45,760
and so what do you You're just going to sit there

750
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:47,719
and just take it.

751
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:48,599
Speaker 2: Yeah.

752
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:51,559
Speaker 1: It's like it's like it's like the Christians who the

753
00:50:51,639 --> 00:50:54,800
Christians who are not are non violent. Oh, there's never

754
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:58,400
a place to use violence. You know, Christians, we lose

755
00:50:58,519 --> 00:51:01,519
down here. All of our words are in heaven. We cannot.

756
00:51:01,559 --> 00:51:04,559
I mean, these people are absolutely insane. They know, first

757
00:51:04,559 --> 00:51:07,079
of all, they know nothing about the history of Christianity.

758
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:12,440
They've they've adopted, they've adopted a very judaized form of

759
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:16,320
Christianity that has that has introduced itself in the last

760
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:21,199
two hundred years in concert with the rise of Zionist

761
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:27,719
a a a worked out Zionist ideology. Yeah, and you

762
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:31,880
know the Schofield Bible, which was pushed by Samuel Untermeyer.

763
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:35,199
Go look up Samuel Intermeyer and find out what he

764
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:38,679
what he believed, and what.

765
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:42,599
Speaker 2: What his connections were. Yeahs to the Rothschilds. I mean,

766
00:51:42,679 --> 00:51:46,320
come on, the guy was basically a Rothschild agent. So

767
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:51,880
the whole Christian Zionism is a Zionist psyop. And what

768
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:55,079
a syop. It is one of the most powerful siops

769
00:51:55,119 --> 00:51:58,920
ever to be unleashed. And it's still going. You know,

770
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:03,239
with these thousand ministers that just went over there to

771
00:52:04,199 --> 00:52:08,760
guess what they call the Friends of Zion faws or

772
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:12,559
something like that. The Friends of Zion meeting and they

773
00:52:12,599 --> 00:52:18,360
got their marching orders and basically got rebrainwashed for Israel,

774
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:20,960
because that's all there might have been some fallout over

775
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:26,199
the last two years of genocidal rampages by Israel that

776
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:31,480
might make a Christian slightly suspect about the compatibility of

777
00:52:31,519 --> 00:52:37,920
this ideology with Christianity. That would be interestingly, So they

778
00:52:38,199 --> 00:52:40,880
knew they had to get on these people, make sure

779
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:44,639
they're still on message. And you know, they're putting out

780
00:52:44,639 --> 00:52:48,239
an army now they're talking about doing this in every country,

781
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:56,440
an army of evangelical Zelots who will basically promote Christian

782
00:52:56,639 --> 00:53:00,559
Zionism in their churches to the point where they even

783
00:53:00,599 --> 00:53:03,960
put the Israeli flag in the church. I mean that's

784
00:53:04,639 --> 00:53:10,079
and it's becomes you know, idle worship from a Christian standpoint. Yeah,

785
00:53:10,159 --> 00:53:15,159
they're still working that that particular syop has has only

786
00:53:15,199 --> 00:53:18,880
gained momentum and it's going to be very difficult to stop.

787
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:21,800
Speaker 1: Oh, it's a waste of time. It's a waste of

788
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:26,199
time because who are you preaching to boomers? Gen z

789
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:30,280
doesn't want anything to do with Israel. Millennials or millennials

790
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:35,039
are struggling to buy houses. Gen X has been passed

791
00:53:35,039 --> 00:53:38,920
over politically, and you know, we're just we're you know,

792
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:42,880
we're just getting out of our nihilism phase. I mean,

793
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:45,639
this is it's a waste of time, it's a waste

794
00:53:45,639 --> 00:53:49,840
of effort that you're just going to push away the

795
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:54,320
young people. So is this actually an Israeli syop to

796
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:57,840
destroy the church to get to people to stop going

797
00:53:57,880 --> 00:53:58,320
to church.

798
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:02,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good, good point that could very well be.

799
00:54:03,159 --> 00:54:06,920
Although I think they they want them to be uh

800
00:54:08,039 --> 00:54:13,480
Christian Zionists zealous, So as long as the church activity

801
00:54:14,199 --> 00:54:18,679
and the preaching is in line with their political objectives,

802
00:54:18,679 --> 00:54:20,440
then I think they want them to go to church.

803
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:26,119
But church becomes a kind of church becomes nothing better,

804
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:30,159
like a jamboree for Zionist activity. You know, it's not

805
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:35,000
it's not anything else. It's it's totally perverted, totally subverted,

806
00:54:35,199 --> 00:54:40,280
totally under you know, completely undermined. Uh and any kind

807
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:46,320
of Christian, real Christian ethos has washed out utterly.

808
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:51,800
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I mean they've been done a good job

809
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:55,000
of that in the last year years anyway. So all right,

810
00:54:55,039 --> 00:54:58,039
so tell me you said you have you're looking at

811
00:54:58,039 --> 00:55:01,480
some more candidates and everything you have, do you have

812
00:55:01,559 --> 00:55:04,320
people who are I think I saw on the website

813
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:07,039
that you can give on a consistent basis. You can

814
00:55:07,039 --> 00:55:12,360
give monthly, you give yearly. It's I assume it's tax deductible.

815
00:55:13,159 --> 00:55:17,519
Speaker 2: No donations. The packs are not tax deductible at all.

816
00:55:17,599 --> 00:55:21,400
Speaker 1: Okay, and five one C three that's right.

817
00:55:21,519 --> 00:55:24,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, And unlike a PAK, we can't accept foreign donations.

818
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:26,920
And when I say that, I know we know that

819
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:31,559
they actually what they do is they funnel foreign money

820
00:55:31,599 --> 00:55:34,239
into domestic cans. I mean, they do all kinds of things.

821
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:38,800
But but yeah, we can't accept foreign donations, and we

822
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:41,840
we the donations are not tax deductible.

823
00:55:42,159 --> 00:55:46,199
Speaker 1: That's right. That's stupid because you're you're you're you're endorsing

824
00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:47,960
candidates and you can't do that in a five O one

825
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:48,480
C three.

826
00:55:49,039 --> 00:55:54,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, well you can't. You cannot right off political contributions.

827
00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:56,920
It's not allowed in the whole. You know, the FEC

828
00:55:57,400 --> 00:55:59,840
prohibits it. So it's not our.

829
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:05,079
Speaker 1: Role that that really shines a light on the hundreds

830
00:56:05,519 --> 00:56:09,920
you know, the hundred million dollars that uh that the

831
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:15,039
Adelson widow gives Donald Trump then, because I mean, if

832
00:56:15,079 --> 00:56:19,960
she is not doing that to well, we know what

833
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:22,760
she's doing it for. She's doing it to buy. She's

834
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:25,199
doing it to buy a candidate. That's that's it.

835
00:56:25,639 --> 00:56:28,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no there's no other benefit for them. They

836
00:56:28,199 --> 00:56:31,639
don't get to write it off. They may be able

837
00:56:31,679 --> 00:56:37,760
to do some sort of you know, fancy book keeping,

838
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:41,679
some kind of way of writing writing it off somehow,

839
00:56:42,119 --> 00:56:44,920
I don't know, but they technically you can't write it off.

840
00:56:46,119 --> 00:56:48,559
Speaker 1: Well, let me ask you this. I just thought of this.

841
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:52,079
A lot of people will say when it comes to

842
00:56:52,159 --> 00:56:57,159
politics that if your if your organization, or if your

843
00:56:57,239 --> 00:57:03,320
campaign or is against something, yeah, that's you know, being

844
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:07,800
for something and promoting something as opposed to being against

845
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:13,280
something is more attractive to people. Have you considered that.

846
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:14,039
Have you thought about that?

847
00:57:14,119 --> 00:57:16,079
Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, I mean we've heard this. We heard this

848
00:57:16,119 --> 00:57:18,719
from the very beginning. Oh, you've got to be pro

849
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:21,599
this or pro that, pro America first or something, but

850
00:57:21,719 --> 00:57:25,039
anti doesn't go anywhere. Well, that's not what we've found

851
00:57:25,039 --> 00:57:28,199
to be true. Actually, we found that this is very

852
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:31,679
much a resonant idea, very resonant with people to be

853
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:35,639
anti Zionist, and that it does have a thing that

854
00:57:35,679 --> 00:57:39,960
we're for. We're for national sovereignty and we're for really

855
00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:45,639
you know, quite frankly, national sovereignty will ironically lead to

856
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:51,199
greater chances for peace in the world, because once we

857
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:57,559
stop being controlled and having and being extorted for Israel,

858
00:57:57,679 --> 00:58:02,159
then it lessens that answers of Israel being able to

859
00:58:02,199 --> 00:58:07,679
conduct their rampages as they have. So we are for something.

860
00:58:07,679 --> 00:58:13,000
We're for restoring national sovereignty and desionizing the United States government,

861
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:17,119
and that has benefits, then we put those on the

862
00:58:17,159 --> 00:58:21,079
website what the benefits are of that, But we don't

863
00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:24,639
we don't. I don't agree that being you know, if

864
00:58:24,679 --> 00:58:26,800
you say, you know, if your thing is based on

865
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:29,519
anti that it won't go anywhere that we haven't found

866
00:58:29,559 --> 00:58:31,480
out to be true. As a matter of fact, we

867
00:58:31,599 --> 00:58:35,880
think that in fact, being explicitly anti Zionist has made

868
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:39,199
our pack get a lot of attention and donations.

869
00:58:39,239 --> 00:58:48,400
Speaker 1: Frankly, yeah, I didn't realize how weak the slogan America

870
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:54,360
First was until I heard Charlie Kirk say America first

871
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:55,840
doesn't mean America only.

872
00:58:56,360 --> 00:58:59,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what it's. That's what it does. It leaves

873
00:58:59,119 --> 00:59:03,000
a lot of holes up, and so yeah, we would

874
00:59:03,079 --> 00:59:06,079
I would say that the pack is America only in

875
00:59:06,119 --> 00:59:10,239
that respect because we don't want any foreign aid, military

876
00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:14,199
or otherwise. Likewise, we just we just don't want anything

877
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:18,599
to do with funding other countries, but especially Israel. But

878
00:59:18,679 --> 00:59:22,639
we we are you know, we are being universalist about that.

879
00:59:22,719 --> 00:59:25,480
We don't want any funding for any other foreign countries.

880
00:59:25,559 --> 00:59:27,760
So technically that's America only.

881
00:59:29,079 --> 00:59:32,599
Speaker 1: Awesome. Well, tell people where they can tell people about

882
00:59:32,599 --> 00:59:35,039
the website, and make sure to get the website addressed

883
00:59:35,119 --> 00:59:37,159
right because there is a dash in there.

884
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:42,400
Speaker 2: And yeah, that dash saved us fifty thousand dollars. Without

885
00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:45,199
that dash, we would have to pay fifty thousand dollars

886
00:59:45,239 --> 00:59:49,719
for asipac dot com or org. It's a ZA dash

887
00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:53,320
pack dot com, Aza dashpack dot com. But if you

888
00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:57,880
search Google and just put in aza pac, you're gonna

889
00:59:57,920 --> 00:59:59,880
find it will come up first. So we got good,

890
01:00:00,199 --> 01:00:03,519
good SEO. So far, Google has not banished US or

891
01:00:03,599 --> 01:00:07,280
download graded US or blacklisted US or any of that,

892
01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:11,440
so we're very fortunate to that extent. Hopefully it stays

893
01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:14,800
that way. But it's a ZA dashpack dot com. That's

894
01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:21,239
where you can sign up to volunteer, donate, read our resources.

895
01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:24,559
We're going to have a web We're going to add

896
01:00:24,599 --> 01:00:27,519
a essay page very soon. We're going to put up

897
01:00:27,639 --> 01:00:33,199
essays from contributors on this issue, which is the issue

898
01:00:33,239 --> 01:00:35,960
I think, and we're going to hit it from all

899
01:00:36,039 --> 01:00:39,320
different sides, and that'll be the beginning of the sort

900
01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:43,000
of think tank that we're going to start worth pondering

901
01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:47,639
founding next a think tank that would contribute articles. But

902
01:00:47,719 --> 01:00:52,559
in the meanwhile, we're offering we'd like to see contributions

903
01:00:52,559 --> 01:00:55,079
from people that want to write about this about the

904
01:00:55,199 --> 01:00:58,159
Zionist occupation of the United States and what it means

905
01:00:58,159 --> 01:01:07,119
for us and the world, uh, from any from any perspective, historical, political, cultural, religious,

906
01:01:07,159 --> 01:01:10,320
all that. We're willing to entertain essays and we're going

907
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:12,840
to have them up there. We're going to start to

908
01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:17,840
fill out and create a community that way, maybe even

909
01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:21,440
open blogging. We'll see, but we're working on all that.

910
01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:24,559
Speaker 1: Well. I will tell you, if you're going to have

911
01:01:24,639 --> 01:01:27,719
open blogging on your you're going to have to have

912
01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:29,480
really good moderation.

913
01:01:31,079 --> 01:01:35,039
Speaker 2: That's the only problem. The sosiety. We'll attack it like crazy.

914
01:01:35,119 --> 01:01:37,119
They'll be on there left and right. The bots will

915
01:01:37,159 --> 01:01:37,639
be on us.

916
01:01:38,199 --> 01:01:41,360
Speaker 1: Yes, it's not only that you're going to have spurgs

917
01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:45,800
on our side who don't know how to articulate their

918
01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:53,360
ideas without coming across as low iq or deranged. Yeah.

919
01:01:53,719 --> 01:01:57,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean we're getting a ton of email from

920
01:01:57,480 --> 01:02:00,920
people and we encourage it, and we're getting a of volunteers,

921
01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:05,079
and we're getting a lot of donations. But keep them coming. Uh,

922
01:02:05,079 --> 01:02:08,280
it's all going to be put towards these candidates and

923
01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:09,719
to grow the organization.

924
01:02:10,599 --> 01:02:10,719
Speaker 1: Uh.

925
01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:14,599
Speaker 2: In terms of our our political power, frankly, that's what

926
01:02:14,639 --> 01:02:17,880
we're after. We are after political power because we need

927
01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:23,400
that to abolish the political powers so that I've occupied

928
01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:24,000
our country.

929
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Speaker 1: Michael, Michael Recto, all the brave men, thank you.

930
01:02:28,599 --> 01:02:49,880
Speaker 2: Thanks having me, Pete. Great to be here. M hm