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Speaker 2: Let's see Tiffany Hops.
Speaker 5: Oh goodness, Hi everyone on YouTube watching.
Speaker 3: It's really great to have this opportunity.
Speaker 5: Tonight's viral load is going to be a mixture of
Speaker 5: things about Minecraft.
Speaker 3: I know you touched on this on Monday. There been
Speaker 3: some new.
Speaker 5: Developments and also some stories that you might not have
Speaker 5: known actually went viral. Let me start with one of them.
Speaker 5: How often do you travel, whether on a leisurely ride
Speaker 5: something more, and you take pictures of beautiful scenery?
Speaker 3: How often do you do that moment?
Speaker 2: Never?
Speaker 5: Never you don't take your camera out and take a
Speaker 5: picture of like a rolling hill or no loud.
Speaker 4: Or no, no, I just don't, just one because I'm driving,
Speaker 4: And two it's just not something I might.
Speaker 3: Maybe you should.
Speaker 5: It's a beautiful way to kind of encapsulate, to capture
Speaker 5: the moment, no judgement.
Speaker 4: I may I may be coming down to one ten
Speaker 4: and if you know, going down to one ten north
Speaker 4: you can see downtown if it's a sunny day and
Speaker 4: you get the mountains and a backdrop, and I can say, ooh,
Speaker 4: that's very nice, it's so beautiful.
Speaker 2: Camera.
Speaker 3: No, you're not living. You know you haven't lived until
Speaker 3: you pull out your camera on the mental memory.
Speaker 4: I'm not the guy who needs to post my whole
Speaker 4: life on Instagram.
Speaker 5: Well this guy wasn't the guy who wanted to post
Speaker 5: his entire life on Instagram.
Speaker 3: But now, many.
Speaker 5: Years after his original photo was taken, he is now
Speaker 5: going viral. I'm talking about Charles O'Rear, who has taken
Speaker 5: what's considered to.
Speaker 2: Be Chuck Rear.
Speaker 3: Chuck Rear.
Speaker 5: He has taken Chuck Ore, Chuck O'Rear, what has been
Speaker 5: considered to be the world's most viewed photo. He didn't
Speaker 5: take this this week or last even. He took it
Speaker 5: in January of nineteen ninety six, when he was on
Speaker 5: the way to visit his then girlfriend now wife, Daphnee Larkin.
Speaker 5: He was driving from his house in Saint Helena, California,
Speaker 5: to Larkins in Marin County and he would pull over
Speaker 5: occasionally to take snapshots of the beautiful rolling hills, bright
Speaker 5: blue skies. And the thing about it is, Chuck Ohrear
Speaker 5: decided to submit his photo to a sharing website, a
Speaker 5: stock photo agency back then called west Light. You might
Speaker 5: know ap photo very similar. And what Chuck did is
Speaker 5: he just submitted the photo as something he thought that
Speaker 5: the agency, the stock photo agency might like. Well, not
Speaker 5: only did they like it, but someone named Bill Gates
Speaker 5: heard of him. No, Microsoft co founder Bill Gates happened
Speaker 5: upon the image. And how Bill Gates happened upon the
Speaker 5: image is that Gates's Corbis group bought west Lights stock
Speaker 5: photo Agency in nineteen ninety eight, and what that photo
Speaker 5: agency contained was Charles O'Rear's photo of a beautiful green pasture,
Speaker 5: rolling hills, bright blue sky, a few clouds, and you
Speaker 5: know it today as the background for Microsoft. The thing
Speaker 5: about it is O'Rear's image ended up with Bill Gates,
Speaker 5: who then decided to pay him for the photo. And
Speaker 5: today Charles O'Rear is saying that he had as a
Speaker 5: major regret.
Speaker 3: He says that he if he knew.
Speaker 5: Then what he knows now, his negotiating powers would have
Speaker 5: been a lot stronger.
Speaker 3: He received somewhere.
Speaker 5: Around one hundred thousand dollars for the photo and nineteen
Speaker 5: ninety six. According to official data dot org, one hundred
Speaker 5: thousand dollars in nineteen ninety six is closer to about
Speaker 5: two hundred and twenty thousand dollars today. So Charles o'reer
Speaker 5: says that he very much regrets ever uploading the photo
Speaker 5: to that stock photo agency and that you know, things happen.
Speaker 5: He's going viral today because of the photo.
Speaker 4: It's unfortunate because if you look at the photo, because
Speaker 4: of photoshop, because of filters, because of AI, the photo
Speaker 4: doesn't get its due credit because it's not going to
Speaker 4: stand out in the way that we think it would
Speaker 4: stand out because of everything is you know, is created.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and it's it's a pretty mundane photo. It's beautiful,
Speaker 5: but you can reproduce this easily today. Back then in
Speaker 5: nineteen ninety six not so much. But as he says,
Speaker 5: he wishes he would have known then what he knows now.
Speaker 5: Second and last story of this segment happens to deal
Speaker 5: with the Minecraft movie. On Monday, you talked about the
Speaker 5: Minecraft movie and how it's just been blowing up and
Speaker 5: it has this huge following already, and it's gaining steam
Speaker 5: amongst people who are going and interacting with the movie
Speaker 5: in the theaters. Well, some of that interaction is due
Speaker 5: to a new TikTok trend named chicken Jockey. I think
Speaker 5: you might have touched on chicken Jockey minorly on Monday,
Speaker 5: But let me tell you what chicken jockey actually is.
Speaker 5: The chicken jockey TikTok trend involves a line said by
Speaker 5: Jack Black, one of the main characters. He's in a
Speaker 5: ring fight scene. In the scene, Jason Momoa's character Garrett
Speaker 5: Garrison can be seen ready to face off with a chicken.
Speaker 5: He looks up at the crate Jason Momoa, which is
Speaker 5: hanging over a ladder. The crate opens and a baby's
Speaker 5: zombie drops on the chicken. Oh my gosh, this movie
Speaker 5: sounds insane. Just then, Jack Black's character Steve says chicken jockey,
Speaker 5: and the baby zombie storms toward Momoa. Okay, now that's
Speaker 5: a little synopsis of where the line comes from.
Speaker 3: So how is this now viral?
Speaker 5: Well, the scene is a reference to the baby zombie
Speaker 5: characters in the game, who can be found riding chickens
Speaker 5: at different times.
Speaker 3: Throughout the game.
Speaker 5: The clip that's gone viral as was posted by an
Speaker 5: account called discuss discussing film on a ex formerly Twitter
Speaker 5: after the particular line is uttered by Jack Black in
Speaker 5: the scene. And what people are doing that's going viral
Speaker 5: is people are taking their popcorn.
Speaker 3: They're throwing it at the screen.
Speaker 5: They're yelling chicken Jockey at the top of their lungs,
Speaker 5: they're shouting, they're storming the screen, and they're now of
Speaker 5: course being escorted out by police.
Speaker 4: See the first mother father to throw popcorn at the
Speaker 4: screen game imagine in the back of the head.
Speaker 2: We're going to have a misunderstanding.
Speaker 5: And it's a TikTok trend, so they're encouraging people to
Speaker 5: go and do this. That is the problem with TikTok.
Speaker 5: Millions upon millions upon millions of subscribers and engagement with
Speaker 5: the website and a lot of people who will do
Speaker 5: anything a viral trend tells them to do.
Speaker 4: And that's the first portion of the viral load with
Speaker 4: Tiffany Hobbs will have more in just a moment, not
Speaker 4: only on the iHeartRadio app, not only on Kfi, but
Speaker 4: also on YouTube app mister from O'Kelly. There's Tiffany Hobbs
Speaker 4: waiting to the camera. We're live everywhere, just all around
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Speaker 5: When you are let go from your job or fired
Speaker 5: from your job, one of the last things you're probably
Speaker 5: anticipating is for your former employer to reach out to
Speaker 5: you to ask you for help on the job that
Speaker 5: you no longer fill. I wish a fool would wish
Speaker 5: a mother father wood would right, Well, this next story
Speaker 5: is going viral because of that sort of outrageous request.
Speaker 5: There's a workplace workplace expert from the UK. His name
Speaker 5: is Ben Askins, and he routinely goes viral for sharing
Speaker 5: anonymous text messages that are exchanges between workers and their managers.
Speaker 5: So this isn't this isn't his first foray into virality.
Speaker 5: But who asks kins? Okay, it's a good name. I
Speaker 5: was just a straight round name, a plump name.
Speaker 1: There you go.
Speaker 2: You got a peach joke in there, so I could. Okay.
Speaker 5: So Early Askins recently shared a wild exchange in which
Speaker 5: a boss messaged and an employee who had recently been
Speaker 5: fired and asked for that employee's help with new software.
Speaker 5: So this employee was let go fire from this business.
Speaker 5: And the boss again reaches out and says, hey, remember
Speaker 5: that thing that you did, that software you set up
Speaker 5: and kind of trained everyone on. Well, we've since outsourced
Speaker 5: your position and they don't know how to navigate the software.
Speaker 3: Oh boy, so we need you to come back.
Speaker 2: And they fired him.
Speaker 5: Correct, they fired him. So what ben Askins did is
Speaker 5: he got hold of this UK expert.
Speaker 3: He got hold of these.
Speaker 5: Text messages between the boss and the former employee former
Speaker 5: employees submitted to ben askins very very viral site, and
Speaker 5: part of the text messages include the following. The boss
Speaker 5: texts the former employee and says, quote, I need to
Speaker 5: ask a favor. The employee responds, quote, are you joking?
Speaker 5: You fired me and now you're asking for help. The
Speaker 5: boss then responds and says, I appreciate that this is awkward.
Speaker 5: The ex employee writes back, I told you this would happened,
Speaker 5: and the ex boss replied again, asking if the former
Speaker 5: worker would quote walk the team through the software remotely.
Speaker 5: The ex employee replies and says, you know what, I'll
Speaker 5: do it, but pay me for what I'm doing half
Speaker 5: a day's pay for the help. The boss replies saying
Speaker 5: they're not happy, and argues that we're not gonna pay you.
Speaker 5: It's only going to take less than half an hour,
Speaker 5: so he shouldn't have to pay the ex employee for
Speaker 5: any sort of extra time. He also, the boss goes
Speaker 5: on to say, we work together for a long time.
Speaker 5: Can't you just do this for me? And of course
Speaker 5: these text messages made it to Ben Askins, who was
Speaker 5: not impressed with the exchange, uploaded it online and it's
Speaker 5: quickly gone viral, amassing hundreds of thousands of views, lots
Speaker 5: of engagement, and a lot of people weighing in on
Speaker 5: the conversation, saying all of this could have been avoided
Speaker 5: if the employer hadn't fired a viable and valuable employee.
Speaker 5: Our last story, well, maybe we'll i'd be able to
Speaker 5: get to a third or fifth one. A viral video
Speaker 5: is going is becoming very popular. It features two anglers
Speaker 5: arguing on something called the Peace River in Punta Gorda, Florida.
Speaker 3: The irony about this next viral.
Speaker 5: Story that point, is that it takes place on Peace
Speaker 5: River and the exchange between these two anglers is anything
Speaker 5: but peaceful, and their exchange has now garnered millions of
Speaker 5: views across social media, especially on Facebook. So what happens
Speaker 5: is there's an incident and it's it's now prompted an
Speaker 5: investigation by Punta Gorda Police or fat point as you say,
Speaker 5: and the Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission. The video
Speaker 5: captures the two boaters arguing about lights while fishing under
Speaker 5: the US forty one bridge. So they're trying to kind
Speaker 5: of see who has the right of way, who's going
Speaker 5: to go it's a it's a low bridge. They don't
Speaker 5: want to crash into each other. The argument escalates when
Speaker 5: one of the boaters, named Brock, the names are perfectly
Speaker 5: Florida man Brock climbs aboard the other person's boat, and
Speaker 5: that person's name is Gauge. So we have Brock on
Speaker 5: one side, Gauge on the other. Very millennial right, Brock
Speaker 5: climbs aboard Gauge's boat, and what appears to be an
Speaker 5: act of river rage. Arguing commences. There's some shoving, there's
Speaker 5: some finger pointing. I don't know if any runners were thrown,
Speaker 5: but the lang probably, but the language was just loud
Speaker 5: enough and just aggressive enough where that the police got involved.
Speaker 5: The fisherman's village in that area announced that it has
Speaker 5: now severed ties with Brock in response to the video,
Speaker 5: and they severed ties because the video has been uploaded
Speaker 5: and has gone viral. Brock's attorney spoke out and said
Speaker 5: that he wanted to dress the video because the video
Speaker 5: has now caused Brock's business to be destroyed, his reputation
Speaker 5: to be damaged, and his family, including his wife and mother,
Speaker 5: to be harassed and even threatened. So I think the
Speaker 5: moral of this story is, don't name your kids Brock
Speaker 5: or Gauge.
Speaker 4: Look, I'm not gonna say anything about anyone's name since
Speaker 4: my parents named me Morris.
Speaker 2: I know I was named after my father.
Speaker 3: But still that doesn't sound like you'd be fighting on
Speaker 3: thish though.
Speaker 4: Look, I've had to fight over my name. Yes, yes,
Speaker 4: it looks. I've told people all the time. When I
Speaker 4: was growing up, it was Morse the Cat, because back
Speaker 4: then Morrisey cat commercials they were a big thing. It
Speaker 4: was Morris and Moose. It was a book called Morris
Speaker 4: and Moose Goes to School. When I got to high school,
Speaker 4: it was Morris Day in the time. Everyone thought, and
Speaker 4: everyone would say it like they're the first person ever
Speaker 4: saying it's like.
Speaker 2: Ah, Morris Day at the time, you stupid? Do you
Speaker 2: think that's actual? Like witty or something.
Speaker 5: But we don't know if the root of the argument
Speaker 5: is over the names. But we do know that it
Speaker 5: is now turned into family members getting involved in businesses
Speaker 5: being destroyed. So be careful what you do out there
Speaker 5: in public. As you often say, mo don't film your
Speaker 5: crimes because they can go viral. This last story I'll
Speaker 5: do very quickly. It has to do with something that's
Speaker 5: ironic given that we're now on camera. There's a bride
Speaker 5: who got married a year ago, and during her wedding preparation,
Speaker 5: she told all of her bride's maids, her mom, she's
Speaker 5: not wearing makeup. She decided, I'm not wearing makeup that's
Speaker 5: not my thing. I've never worn makeup. I'm a chapstick girl,
Speaker 5: vasoline girl.
Speaker 3: I like my skin.
Speaker 5: I don't have any imperfections, not out of vanity, but
Speaker 5: just out of just how she feels about herself, her
Speaker 5: own self confidence. Well, her wedding has now gone viral
Speaker 5: this year, one year later on TikTok, because she spoke
Speaker 5: out about her decision not to wear makeup. She just
Speaker 5: did a quick video and said, hey, a year ago
Speaker 5: I got married, I didn't wear makeup.
Speaker 3: It was my choice.
Speaker 5: And she has gotten over twenty five thousand comments, many
Speaker 5: of them positive and affirming, but.
Speaker 3: Of course trolls.
Speaker 5: There are the trolls who are trying to tear down
Speaker 5: her decision by saying that if they were getting married,
Speaker 5: of course they would have done differently, and that because
Speaker 5: they feel that way, others should too.
Speaker 2: Oh boy, the trolls, These trolls, they're.
Speaker 3: There, They're not under bridges where they should be.
Speaker 2: No, I got some thoughts for them before I close
Speaker 2: out the show tonight.
Speaker 4: But hey, Tiffany Hops, can you hang around for a
Speaker 4: moment because this next story, the next segment, I want
Speaker 4: you to weigh in on. Because kids under sixteen will
Speaker 4: no longer be allowed to live stream on Instagram without consent.
Speaker 4: I think it's a little too little, too late, because
Speaker 4: the horse is already out of that barn and there're
Speaker 4: too we'll talk about it too, We'll talk It's Later
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Speaker 4: It's Later with mo Kelly. And let's talk a little
Speaker 4: bit more about social media. And I had Tiffany Hobbs,
Speaker 4: who you can also hear here on CAFI Saturdays from
Speaker 4: five to seven pm, want to remind you about that.
Speaker 4: I want her to stay around for this. But kids
Speaker 4: under sixteen will no longer be allowed to live stream
Speaker 4: on Instagram without consent. Instagram users under sixteen won't be
Speaker 4: able to live stream or unblur nudity in direct messages
Speaker 4: they've received without parental approval. And this is because Meta
Speaker 4: said it was extending safeguards for users under eighteen to
Speaker 4: both Facebook and Messenger. And you may remember Meta recently
Speaker 4: launched his teen account program for Instagram back in September
Speaker 4: to supposedly my inflection to give parents more options to
Speaker 4: supervise their children's online activity because they were getting cussed
Speaker 4: out basically for allowing so much stuff on their social
Speaker 4: media platform. But under these changes, teens under sixteen are
Speaker 4: blocked from using Instagram Live without parental permission. They also
Speaker 4: need permission to turn off the feature that blurs images
Speaker 4: containing suspected nudity and direct messages. I can appreciate the attempt,
Speaker 4: I don't know how sincere it is. I don't know
Speaker 4: how effective it will be if only because kids know
Speaker 4: how to circumvent all these things. You know, It's like, okay,
Speaker 4: so you have so sort of social media block on Instagram,
Speaker 4: Well they can go to porn Hub with the same device.
Speaker 4: You know, you're not really stopping anything. And I know
Speaker 4: Instagram wants to limit its liability and its criticism, but
Speaker 4: it's not stopping any of them. And I know most
Speaker 4: kids who have Instagram have four or five different accounts.
Speaker 4: They have burner accounts, they have adults have burner accounts,
Speaker 4: so you know the kids have burner accounts. My question
Speaker 4: to you, Tiffany, is this does this really mean anything
Speaker 4: to anyone anywhere?
Speaker 3: No, it is ceremonial.
Speaker 5: It is performative, and it is necessary for Meta to
Speaker 5: try and keep their reputation or try and at least
Speaker 5: establish a reputation as being a safe place for miners
Speaker 5: to congregate.
Speaker 3: But they should have done this years ago, years ago.
Speaker 5: It not at all a parallel, So don't get me wrong,
Speaker 5: but it feels like when seat belts were created, how
Speaker 5: many crashes had there been or accidents had there been
Speaker 5: prior to that where children and others were harmed or
Speaker 5: killed and then seat belts were instituted, and sure it helped.
Speaker 4: But we can say at least there's data to support
Speaker 4: that seat belts do save lives and they're not performative.
Speaker 4: Where this is, I don't know if this like put
Speaker 4: it this way, I don't know if since seat belts
Speaker 4: is in actual law, that this is actually changing either
Speaker 4: the company's behavior or is actually protecting anyone.
Speaker 2: I haven't see that data, and.
Speaker 3: I don't think we will see that for a long time.
Speaker 5: It's going to take years of measuring the data to
Speaker 5: be able to see if it actually makes any sort
Speaker 5: of difference. But just like you said in the interim,
Speaker 5: what other programs, what other platforms will kids then go
Speaker 5: to to be able to use things inappropriately or access
Speaker 5: things that may be safeguarded on Instagram, they'll just go
Speaker 5: around it.
Speaker 4: Don't ask me how I know this, but I know
Speaker 4: that I can just in my natural searching of Instagram.
Speaker 4: You can find nudity in people's feeds. It doesn't have
Speaker 4: to be a direct message. It could be a so
Speaker 4: and so's account happens to be a model or something.
Speaker 2: You see it all the time. It's like, that's nudity
Speaker 2: and it's not censored.
Speaker 4: It's definitely not banned and clearly available to anyone who
Speaker 4: has an Instagram account.
Speaker 5: And the interesting thing about Meta is that if you've
Speaker 5: ever try to report something as an impropriety, whether it's
Speaker 5: sexually explicit or it encourages violence, you know exactly that
Speaker 5: most times, nine point nine out of ten, your report
Speaker 5: will be rejected and the content will stay and be
Speaker 5: validated as unoffensive or appropriate. Therefore, like you're saying, you
Speaker 5: can access this sort of content at any turn on Instagram,
Speaker 5: at any turn on Meta, especially if Meta deems it
Speaker 5: as being appropriate. I've seen images that are of births
Speaker 5: just in your just regular feeds. Someone posts something and
Speaker 5: you have nudity there, or you see someone breastfeed.
Speaker 2: It doesn't have to be sexual.
Speaker 5: If it's not sexualized, then often it stays. But like
Speaker 5: you said, there are other ways in which kids can
Speaker 5: absolutely consume inappropriate imagery, and just because it's taken out
Speaker 5: of the private messages doesn't mean that they then won't
Speaker 5: go to their text messages. I also, on the other side,
Speaker 5: appreciate Meta for trying something, but it does feel like
Speaker 5: too little.
Speaker 3: Too late.
Speaker 4: It's Later with Mo Kelly, Tiffany Hobbs, Yes of the
Speaker 4: Viral Load and also Tiffany Hobbs Saturdays from five to
Speaker 4: seven pm here on KFI. Always loved listening to you
Speaker 4: and I appreciate you for coming in on Wednesday night.
Speaker 5: Well, thank you, mo Kelly. I gave up my beloved
Speaker 5: Clippers shall be here.
Speaker 2: No, you know I'm not a Clippers fan, so you
Speaker 2: know You're not gonna get you sympathies from me. Go Lakers,
Speaker 2: Lakers be Dallas tonight.
Speaker 3: God thanks for having me always.
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