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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Later with Mo Kelly on demand from

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<v Speaker 1>kf I Am six forty.

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<v Speaker 2>Now Kelly Show.

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<v Speaker 3>Social media, Facebook gets to extract.

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<v Speaker 1>Viral load, viral load, the viral load Lad with Timney.

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<v Speaker 4>K if I am six forty years Later with Mo

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<v Speaker 4>Kelly Live everywhere in the iHeartRadio app and YouTube at

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<v Speaker 4>mister mo' kelly.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's see Tiffany Hops.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh goodness, Hi everyone on YouTube watching.

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<v Speaker 3>It's really great to have this opportunity.

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<v Speaker 5>Tonight's viral load is going to be a mixture of

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<v Speaker 5>things about Minecraft.

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<v Speaker 3>I know you touched on this on Monday. There been

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<v Speaker 3>some new.

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<v Speaker 5>Developments and also some stories that you might not have

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<v Speaker 5>known actually went viral. Let me start with one of them.

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<v Speaker 5>How often do you travel, whether on a leisurely ride

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<v Speaker 5>something more, and you take pictures of beautiful scenery?

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<v Speaker 3>How often do you do that moment?

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<v Speaker 2>Never?

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<v Speaker 5>Never you don't take your camera out and take a

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<v Speaker 5>picture of like a rolling hill or no loud.

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<v Speaker 4>Or no, no, I just don't, just one because I'm driving,

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<v Speaker 4>And two it's just not something I might.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe you should.

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<v Speaker 5>It's a beautiful way to kind of encapsulate, to capture

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<v Speaker 5>the moment, no judgement.

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<v Speaker 4>I may I may be coming down to one ten

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<v Speaker 4>and if you know, going down to one ten north

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<v Speaker 4>you can see downtown if it's a sunny day and

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<v Speaker 4>you get the mountains and a backdrop, and I can say, ooh,

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<v Speaker 4>that's very nice, it's so beautiful.

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<v Speaker 2>Camera.

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<v Speaker 3>No, you're not living. You know you haven't lived until

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<v Speaker 3>you pull out your camera on the mental memory.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not the guy who needs to post my whole

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<v Speaker 4>life on Instagram.

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<v Speaker 5>Well this guy wasn't the guy who wanted to post

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<v Speaker 5>his entire life on Instagram.

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<v Speaker 3>But now, many.

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<v Speaker 5>Years after his original photo was taken, he is now

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<v Speaker 5>going viral. I'm talking about Charles O'Rear, who has taken

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<v Speaker 5>what's considered to.

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<v Speaker 2>Be Chuck Rear.

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<v Speaker 3>Chuck Rear.

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<v Speaker 5>He has taken Chuck Ore, Chuck O'Rear, what has been

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<v Speaker 5>considered to be the world's most viewed photo. He didn't

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<v Speaker 5>take this this week or last even. He took it

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<v Speaker 5>in January of nineteen ninety six, when he was on

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<v Speaker 5>the way to visit his then girlfriend now wife, Daphnee Larkin.

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<v Speaker 5>He was driving from his house in Saint Helena, California,

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<v Speaker 5>to Larkins in Marin County and he would pull over

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<v Speaker 5>occasionally to take snapshots of the beautiful rolling hills, bright

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<v Speaker 5>blue skies. And the thing about it is, Chuck Ohrear

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<v Speaker 5>decided to submit his photo to a sharing website, a

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<v Speaker 5>stock photo agency back then called west Light. You might

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<v Speaker 5>know ap photo very similar. And what Chuck did is

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<v Speaker 5>he just submitted the photo as something he thought that

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<v Speaker 5>the agency, the stock photo agency might like. Well, not

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<v Speaker 5>only did they like it, but someone named Bill Gates

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<v Speaker 5>heard of him. No, Microsoft co founder Bill Gates happened

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<v Speaker 5>upon the image. And how Bill Gates happened upon the

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<v Speaker 5>image is that Gates's Corbis group bought west Lights stock

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<v Speaker 5>photo Agency in nineteen ninety eight, and what that photo

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<v Speaker 5>agency contained was Charles O'Rear's photo of a beautiful green pasture,

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<v Speaker 5>rolling hills, bright blue sky, a few clouds, and you

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<v Speaker 5>know it today as the background for Microsoft. The thing

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<v Speaker 5>about it is O'Rear's image ended up with Bill Gates,

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<v Speaker 5>who then decided to pay him for the photo. And

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<v Speaker 5>today Charles O'Rear is saying that he had as a

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<v Speaker 5>major regret.

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<v Speaker 3>He says that he if he knew.

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<v Speaker 5>Then what he knows now, his negotiating powers would have

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<v Speaker 5>been a lot stronger.

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<v Speaker 3>He received somewhere.

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<v Speaker 5>Around one hundred thousand dollars for the photo and nineteen

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<v Speaker 5>ninety six. According to official data dot org, one hundred

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<v Speaker 5>thousand dollars in nineteen ninety six is closer to about

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<v Speaker 5>two hundred and twenty thousand dollars today. So Charles o'reer

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<v Speaker 5>says that he very much regrets ever uploading the photo

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<v Speaker 5>to that stock photo agency and that you know, things happen.

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<v Speaker 5>He's going viral today because of the photo.

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<v Speaker 4>It's unfortunate because if you look at the photo, because

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<v Speaker 4>of photoshop, because of filters, because of AI, the photo

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<v Speaker 4>doesn't get its due credit because it's not going to

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<v Speaker 4>stand out in the way that we think it would

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<v Speaker 4>stand out because of everything is you know, is created.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and it's it's a pretty mundane photo. It's beautiful,

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<v Speaker 5>but you can reproduce this easily today. Back then in

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<v Speaker 5>nineteen ninety six not so much. But as he says,

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<v Speaker 5>he wishes he would have known then what he knows now.

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<v Speaker 5>Second and last story of this segment happens to deal

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<v Speaker 5>with the Minecraft movie. On Monday, you talked about the

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<v Speaker 5>Minecraft movie and how it's just been blowing up and

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<v Speaker 5>it has this huge following already, and it's gaining steam

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<v Speaker 5>amongst people who are going and interacting with the movie

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<v Speaker 5>in the theaters. Well, some of that interaction is due

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<v Speaker 5>to a new TikTok trend named chicken Jockey. I think

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<v Speaker 5>you might have touched on chicken Jockey minorly on Monday,

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<v Speaker 5>But let me tell you what chicken jockey actually is.

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<v Speaker 5>The chicken jockey TikTok trend involves a line said by

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<v Speaker 5>Jack Black, one of the main characters. He's in a

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<v Speaker 5>ring fight scene. In the scene, Jason Momoa's character Garrett

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<v Speaker 5>Garrison can be seen ready to face off with a chicken.

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<v Speaker 5>He looks up at the crate Jason Momoa, which is

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<v Speaker 5>hanging over a ladder. The crate opens and a baby's

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<v Speaker 5>zombie drops on the chicken. Oh my gosh, this movie

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<v Speaker 5>sounds insane. Just then, Jack Black's character Steve says chicken jockey,

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<v Speaker 5>and the baby zombie storms toward Momoa. Okay, now that's

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<v Speaker 5>a little synopsis of where the line comes from.

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<v Speaker 3>So how is this now viral?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, the scene is a reference to the baby zombie

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<v Speaker 5>characters in the game, who can be found riding chickens

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<v Speaker 3>Throughout the game.

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<v Speaker 5>The clip that's gone viral as was posted by an

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<v Speaker 5>account called discuss discussing film on a ex formerly Twitter

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<v Speaker 5>after the particular line is uttered by Jack Black in

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<v Speaker 5>the scene. And what people are doing that's going viral

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<v Speaker 5>is people are taking their popcorn.

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<v Speaker 3>They're throwing it at the screen.

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<v Speaker 5>They're yelling chicken Jockey at the top of their lungs,

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<v Speaker 5>they're shouting, they're storming the screen, and they're now of

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<v Speaker 5>course being escorted out by police.

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<v Speaker 4>See the first mother father to throw popcorn at the

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<v Speaker 4>screen game imagine in the back of the head.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to have a misunderstanding.

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<v Speaker 5>And it's a TikTok trend, so they're encouraging people to

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<v Speaker 5>go and do this. That is the problem with TikTok.

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<v Speaker 5>Millions upon millions upon millions of subscribers and engagement with

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<v Speaker 5>anything a viral trend tells them to do.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's the first portion of the viral load with

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<v Speaker 4>Tiffany Hobbs will have more in just a moment, not

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<v Speaker 4>only on the iHeartRadio app, not only on Kfi, but

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<v Speaker 4>also on YouTube app mister from O'Kelly. There's Tiffany Hobbs

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<v Speaker 4>waiting to the camera. We're live everywhere, just all around

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<v Speaker 4>the world.

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from

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<v Speaker 4>L with Tiffany Hubbs, KFI and YouTube, iHeartRadio app. We

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<v Speaker 4>are live everywhere and we're in the second part of

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<v Speaker 4>the viral load with Tiffany Hops.

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<v Speaker 5>When you are let go from your job or fired

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<v Speaker 5>from your job, one of the last things you're probably

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<v Speaker 5>anticipating is for your former employer to reach out to

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<v Speaker 5>you to ask you for help on the job that

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<v Speaker 5>you no longer fill. I wish a fool would wish

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<v Speaker 5>a mother father wood would right, Well, this next story

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<v Speaker 5>is going viral because of that sort of outrageous request.

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<v Speaker 5>There's a workplace workplace expert from the UK. His name

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<v Speaker 5>is Ben Askins, and he routinely goes viral for sharing

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<v Speaker 5>anonymous text messages that are exchanges between workers and their managers.

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<v Speaker 5>So this isn't this isn't his first foray into virality.

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<v Speaker 5>But who asks kins? Okay, it's a good name. I

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<v Speaker 5>was just a straight round name, a plump name.

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<v Speaker 1>There you go.

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<v Speaker 2>You got a peach joke in there, so I could. Okay.

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<v Speaker 5>So Early Askins recently shared a wild exchange in which

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<v Speaker 5>a boss messaged and an employee who had recently been

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<v Speaker 5>fired and asked for that employee's help with new software.

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<v Speaker 5>So this employee was let go fire from this business.

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<v Speaker 5>And the boss again reaches out and says, hey, remember

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<v Speaker 5>that thing that you did, that software you set up

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<v Speaker 5>and kind of trained everyone on. Well, we've since outsourced

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<v Speaker 5>your position and they don't know how to navigate the software.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh boy, so we need you to come back.

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<v Speaker 2>And they fired him.

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<v Speaker 5>Correct, they fired him. So what ben Askins did is

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<v Speaker 5>he got hold of this UK expert.

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<v Speaker 3>He got hold of these.

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<v Speaker 5>Text messages between the boss and the former employee former

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<v Speaker 5>part of the text messages include the following. The boss

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<v Speaker 5>texts the former employee and says, quote, I need to

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<v Speaker 5>ask a favor. The employee responds, quote, are you joking?

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<v Speaker 5>boss then responds and says, I appreciate that this is awkward.

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<v Speaker 5>The ex employee writes back, I told you this would happened,

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<v Speaker 5>and the ex boss replied again, asking if the former

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<v Speaker 5>The ex employee replies and says, you know what, I'll

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<v Speaker 5>do it, but pay me for what I'm doing half

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<v Speaker 5>a day's pay for the help. The boss replies saying

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<v Speaker 5>they're not happy, and argues that we're not gonna pay you.

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<v Speaker 5>It's only going to take less than half an hour,

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<v Speaker 5>so he shouldn't have to pay the ex employee for

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<v Speaker 5>any sort of extra time. He also, the boss goes

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<v Speaker 5>on to say, we work together for a long time.

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<v Speaker 5>Can't you just do this for me? And of course

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<v Speaker 5>these text messages made it to Ben Askins, who was

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<v Speaker 5>not impressed with the exchange, uploaded it online and it's

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<v Speaker 5>quickly gone viral, amassing hundreds of thousands of views, lots

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<v Speaker 5>of engagement, and a lot of people weighing in on

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<v Speaker 5>the conversation, saying all of this could have been avoided

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<v Speaker 5>if the employer hadn't fired a viable and valuable employee.

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<v Speaker 5>Our last story, well, maybe we'll i'd be able to

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<v Speaker 5>get to a third or fifth one. A viral video

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<v Speaker 5>is going is becoming very popular. It features two anglers

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<v Speaker 3>The irony about this next viral.

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<v Speaker 5>Story that point, is that it takes place on Peace

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<v Speaker 5>River and the exchange between these two anglers is anything

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<v Speaker 5>but peaceful, and their exchange has now garnered millions of

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<v Speaker 5>views across social media, especially on Facebook. So what happens

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<v Speaker 5>is there's an incident and it's it's now prompted an

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<v Speaker 5>investigation by Punta Gorda Police or fat point as you say,

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<v Speaker 5>and the Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission. The video

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<v Speaker 5>captures the two boaters arguing about lights while fishing under

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<v Speaker 5>Florida man Brock climbs aboard the other person's boat, and

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<v Speaker 5>now severed ties with Brock in response to the video,

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<v Speaker 4>Look, I'm not gonna say anything about anyone's name since

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<v Speaker 2>I know I was named after my father.

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<v Speaker 3>But still that doesn't sound like you'd be fighting on

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<v Speaker 4>Look, I've had to fight over my name. Yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 4>and Moose Goes to School. When I got to high school,

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<v Speaker 4>it was Morris Day in the time. Everyone thought, and

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<v Speaker 2>Ah, Morris Day at the time, you stupid? Do you

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<v Speaker 5>But we don't know if the root of the argument

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<v Speaker 5>ironic given that we're now on camera. There's a bride

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<v Speaker 5>not wearing makeup. She decided, I'm not wearing makeup that's

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<v Speaker 5>not my thing. I've never worn makeup. I'm a chapstick girl,

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<v Speaker 3>I like my skin.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't have any imperfections, not out of vanity, but

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<v Speaker 5>this year, one year later on TikTok, because she spoke

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<v Speaker 5>did a quick video and said, hey, a year ago

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<v Speaker 3>It was my choice.

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<v Speaker 5>And she has gotten over twenty five thousand comments, many

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<v Speaker 5>of them positive and affirming, but.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course trolls.

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<v Speaker 5>There are the trolls who are trying to tear down

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<v Speaker 5>of course they would have done differently, and that because

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<v Speaker 5>they feel that way, others should too.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh boy, the trolls, These trolls, they're.

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<v Speaker 3>There, They're not under bridges where they should be.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I got some thoughts for them before I close

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<v Speaker 4>But hey, Tiffany Hops, can you hang around for a

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<v Speaker 4>moment because this next story, the next segment, I want

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<v Speaker 4>you to weigh in on. Because kids under sixteen will

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<v Speaker 4>no longer be allowed to live stream on Instagram without consent.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's a little too little, too late, because

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<v Speaker 4>the horse is already out of that barn and there're

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<v Speaker 4>too we'll talk about it too, We'll talk It's Later

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<v Speaker 4>with mo Kelly Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app and YouTube.

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Later with mo Kelly on demand from

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<v Speaker 1>KFI AM six forty and YouTube.

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<v Speaker 4>It's Later with mo Kelly. And let's talk a little

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<v Speaker 4>bit more about social media. And I had Tiffany Hobbs,

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<v Speaker 4>who you can also hear here on CAFI Saturdays from

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<v Speaker 4>five to seven pm, want to remind you about that.

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<v Speaker 4>I want her to stay around for this. But kids

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<v Speaker 4>under sixteen will no longer be allowed to live stream

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<v Speaker 4>on Instagram without consent. Instagram users under sixteen won't be

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<v Speaker 4>able to live stream or unblur nudity in direct messages

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<v Speaker 4>they've received without parental approval. And this is because Meta

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<v Speaker 4>said it was extending safeguards for users under eighteen to

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<v Speaker 4>both Facebook and Messenger. And you may remember Meta recently

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<v Speaker 4>launched his teen account program for Instagram back in September

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<v Speaker 4>to supposedly my inflection to give parents more options to

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<v Speaker 4>supervise their children's online activity because they were getting cussed

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<v Speaker 4>out basically for allowing so much stuff on their social

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<v Speaker 4>media platform. But under these changes, teens under sixteen are

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<v Speaker 4>blocked from using Instagram Live without parental permission. They also

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<v Speaker 4>need permission to turn off the feature that blurs images

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<v Speaker 4>containing suspected nudity and direct messages. I can appreciate the attempt,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know how sincere it is. I don't know

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<v Speaker 4>how effective it will be if only because kids know

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<v Speaker 4>how to circumvent all these things. You know, It's like, okay,

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<v Speaker 4>so you have so sort of social media block on Instagram,

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<v Speaker 4>Well they can go to porn Hub with the same device.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, you're not really stopping anything. And I know

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<v Speaker 4>Instagram wants to limit its liability and its criticism, but

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<v Speaker 4>it's not stopping any of them. And I know most

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<v Speaker 4>kids who have Instagram have four or five different accounts.

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<v Speaker 4>They have burner accounts, they have adults have burner accounts,

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<v Speaker 4>so you know the kids have burner accounts. My question

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<v Speaker 4>to you, Tiffany, is this does this really mean anything

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<v Speaker 4>to anyone anywhere?

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<v Speaker 3>No, it is ceremonial.

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<v Speaker 5>It is performative, and it is necessary for Meta to

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<v Speaker 5>try and keep their reputation or try and at least

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<v Speaker 5>establish a reputation as being a safe place for miners

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<v Speaker 3>But they should have done this years ago, years ago.

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<v Speaker 5>It not at all a parallel, So don't get me wrong,

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<v Speaker 5>but it feels like when seat belts were created, how

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<v Speaker 5>many crashes had there been or accidents had there been

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<v Speaker 5>prior to that where children and others were harmed or

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<v Speaker 5>killed and then seat belts were instituted, and sure it helped.

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<v Speaker 4>But we can say at least there's data to support

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<v Speaker 4>that seat belts do save lives and they're not performative.

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<v Speaker 4>Where this is, I don't know if this like put

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<v Speaker 4>it this way, I don't know if since seat belts

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<v Speaker 4>is in actual law, that this is actually changing either

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<v Speaker 4>the company's behavior or is actually protecting anyone.

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't see that data, and.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think we will see that for a long time.

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<v Speaker 5>It's going to take years of measuring the data to

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<v Speaker 5>be able to see if it actually makes any sort

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<v Speaker 5>of difference. But just like you said in the interim,

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<v Speaker 5>what other programs, what other platforms will kids then go

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<v Speaker 5>to to be able to use things inappropriately or access

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<v Speaker 5>things that may be safeguarded on Instagram, they'll just go

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<v Speaker 4>Don't ask me how I know this, but I know

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<v Speaker 4>that I can just in my natural searching of Instagram.

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<v Speaker 4>You can find nudity in people's feeds. It doesn't have

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<v Speaker 4>to be a direct message. It could be a so

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<v Speaker 4>and so's account happens to be a model or something.

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<v Speaker 2>You see it all the time. It's like, that's nudity

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<v Speaker 2>and it's not censored.

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<v Speaker 4>It's definitely not banned and clearly available to anyone who

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<v Speaker 5>And the interesting thing about Meta is that if you've

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<v Speaker 5>ever try to report something as an impropriety, whether it's

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<v Speaker 5>sexually explicit or it encourages violence, you know exactly that

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<v Speaker 5>most times, nine point nine out of ten, your report

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<v Speaker 5>will be rejected and the content will stay and be

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<v Speaker 5>validated as unoffensive or appropriate. Therefore, like you're saying, you

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<v Speaker 5>can access this sort of content at any turn on Instagram,

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<v Speaker 5>at any turn on Meta, especially if Meta deems it

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<v Speaker 5>as being appropriate. I've seen images that are of births

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<v Speaker 5>just in your just regular feeds. Someone posts something and

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<v Speaker 5>you have nudity there, or you see someone breastfeed.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't have to be sexual.

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<v Speaker 5>If it's not sexualized, then often it stays. But like

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<v Speaker 5>you said, there are other ways in which kids can

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<v Speaker 5>absolutely consume inappropriate imagery, and just because it's taken out

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<v Speaker 5>of the private messages doesn't mean that they then won't

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<v Speaker 5>go to their text messages. I also, on the other side,

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<v Speaker 5>appreciate Meta for trying something, but it does feel like

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<v Speaker 5>too little.

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<v Speaker 3>Too late.

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<v Speaker 4>It's Later with Mo Kelly, Tiffany Hobbs, Yes of the

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<v Speaker 4>Viral Load and also Tiffany Hobbs Saturdays from five to

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<v Speaker 4>seven pm here on KFI. Always loved listening to you

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<v Speaker 4>and I appreciate you for coming in on Wednesday night.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, thank you, mo Kelly. I gave up my beloved

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<v Speaker 5>Clippers shall be here.

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<v Speaker 2>No, you know I'm not a Clippers fan, so you

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<v Speaker 2>know You're not gonna get you sympathies from me. Go Lakers,

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<v Speaker 2>Lakers be Dallas tonight.

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<v Speaker 3>God thanks for having me always.

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening too. Later with mo Kelly on demand from

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