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Speaker 1: Top Ink Club Pard, good evening, Good even everybody, it's

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your whole CEO Fortune. And we tuned in with our

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second episode of top inc World News, and we have

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a follow up this evening about the actual immigrant protesting

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that's actually going on in Los Angeles. It's crazy, it's bonkers.

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And also it's actually taking place in Atlanta and Milwaukee.

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They pretty much saying that they want Trump out of

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the seat. So it's a world historia going on right now.

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And we have an update from ABC News cast about

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the whole just like you know, political stage about what's

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going on. So you know, I'm gonna let the masters

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do what they do, but I'm keeping my word and

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bringing you this top INC World News. Listen into. It's

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very very interesting.

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Speaker 2: My next guest says all of this unrest was ginned

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up and generated by Donald Trump simply for political theater.

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Lieutenant Governor of California, Lenny Kuda Lacus joining me now,

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Lieutenant Governor, good to have you. Why are you convinced

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this is just political theater?

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Speaker 3: Well, look, I think it's partially political theater. And then

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underlying it is Donald Trump's going after immigrant communities. He

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said he was going to go after criminals. Now he

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appears to be going after restaurant workers and farm workers.

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But Kira, thank you for having me on. Thank you

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for covering this. You know, we're very much sending a

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message out to Angelino's into everybody that peaceful protest is

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one thing, but graffiti is not okay. Unpeaceful protests is

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also not okay. And we have mobilized local and state

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and regional law enforcement to be able to handle the

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protests out in.

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Speaker 2: This Lieutenant Governor, let me ask you about California's legal

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attempt to block the deployment of these troops. It failed

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in court, So now what, No, it didn't.

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Speaker 3: Actually, it's just making its way through the process. So

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the first action was that the judge didn't want to

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make an immediate call, but he set a hearing for tomorrow,

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and so in the courts tomorrow, the Governor and the

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Attorney General of the State of California is going to

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make our case that in fact, National Guard is not

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legally deployed in California without the collaboration, communication and agreement

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with the governor for a situation like this, you know,

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most of the folks who are out in this area

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and downtown Los Angeles. It's hundreds of Los Angeles Police

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Department officers and Sheriff's officers who are very well equipped,

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very well trained, and ready for this kind of a situation.

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So for Trump to bring in the National Guard, and

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this is why I'm saying it's theater is they're not necessary,

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but it's part of Donald Trump wanting to just display

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that he's the big strong man. He's going to come in,

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he can do what he wants. But in fact, the

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National Guard certainly not Marines. It's not appropriate that they're there.

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We don't think it's legal that they're there. We're going

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to argue that in court. But at the same time,

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we're going to continue to use California law enforcement to

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keep the peace.

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Speaker 2: Got it all right? And well, of course follow the

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Court of Parents tomorrow. Thank you for clarifying that. As

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you know, Trump's declaration to deploy these troops, it didn't

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even specify California in the declaration. The language was very broad.

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It authorizes troops to go anywhere, actually where there are

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protests against ice and ice rays. So do you think

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that these troops will be deployed for sure in other states? Now?

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Speaker 3: Well, We know that Trump is coming after California because

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you know, he has a practice of going after people

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based and entities based on grievance revenge. But the fact

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is California is the fourth largest economy in the world.

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If we were a country, we have a very healthy

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economy here. So it is a big mistake in my opinion,

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to do things, whether it's the trade wars or going

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after hard working immigrants that hurt the California economy. It

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is ultimately going to hurt the country because the California

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economy fuels the federal government, pays the bills of the

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federal government. So we're a big target. But I don't

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think it ends with us at all. I think that

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he is using us as sort of his first big case,

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but it's very likely that he's going to go after

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other states as well.

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Speaker 2: So legally speaking, immigration is a federal issue, as we know,

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So why should state and local leaders be able to

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block those laws from being enforced.

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Speaker 3: Well, I don't know which laws you're talking about. What

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I can tell you is that California has because of

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historic immigration patterns and frankly, the inability for Democrats and

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Republicans to come together in spite of Democrats' efforts to

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have comprehensive immigration reform. I have always been for that.

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I'm a former US ambassador. Most of my Democratic colleagues

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have also been for that. But you remember we tried

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a couple of times when the Republicans stopped it because

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they want to divide people over this issue. But along

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the way, we have a situation where in California where

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about two and a half million undocumented people live. So

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these are our communities, our neighbors, our colleagues. If what

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Trump is really doing is trying to you know, deport

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millions of people, it is going to have a very

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serious and very negative effect, certainly on our economy.

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Speaker 2: Here.

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Speaker 3: There is a way to go about immigration reform. There

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is certainly a focus that we agree should be on

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deportations of violent undocumented people who are here and lawfully.

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But going after going into restaurants, going into home depots,

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pulling people whether whether they are undocumented or not. Because

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we just had a woman nine months pregnant, a US

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citizen get detained. You know, this is is absolutely terrible

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public policy. Uh, not to mention just cruel uh And

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you know, and and extremely unfortunate and I.

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Speaker 2: Want to follow up with that because I actually had

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this written down. I want to hear what your solution is.

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I grew up in California as one of the largest

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undocumented populations as we know in the country. What is

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your solution to those that are here illegally?

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Speaker 3: So again, I'm a former United States ambassador, but I'm

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also the daughter of a refugee. My husband both of

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his parents were refugees. They came through the generous policies

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of the United States that allowed our families to come here,

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and you know, as you can seek and back in

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service and to the economy in so many ways, I

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believe that the American people, certainly Californians, are not anti

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immigration per se. It's that people want sensible, safe from

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a national security point of view, immigration policies. And I

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know the Democrats tried to do this through Congress, and

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the Republicans would not agree to a reform process in

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order to uh to have certainty around what those what

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that process looks like. And so I still think, in

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spite of how how polarized the country is in so

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many ways, that leaders coming together with sensible immigration policies

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and a comprehensive and thoughtful way to deal with those

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who are here, who are working hard, who are law

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abiding you know, and and who have family here. There

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is a way to do this that I think most

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Americans would think is sensible, but that is not what

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is happening right now.

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Speaker 2: Lieutenant Governor of California, Elenni Cunelacuez, appreciate your time today