Speaker 1: Top Ink Club Pard, good evening, Good even everybody, it's
your whole CEO Fortune. And we tuned in with our
second episode of top inc World News, and we have
a follow up this evening about the actual immigrant protesting
that's actually going on in Los Angeles. It's crazy, it's bonkers.
And also it's actually taking place in Atlanta and Milwaukee.
They pretty much saying that they want Trump out of
the seat. So it's a world historia going on right now.
And we have an update from ABC News cast about
the whole just like you know, political stage about what's
going on. So you know, I'm gonna let the masters
do what they do, but I'm keeping my word and
bringing you this top INC World News. Listen into. It's
very very interesting.
Speaker 2: My next guest says all of this unrest was ginned
up and generated by Donald Trump simply for political theater.
Lieutenant Governor of California, Lenny Kuda Lacus joining me now,
Lieutenant Governor, good to have you. Why are you convinced
this is just political theater?
Speaker 3: Well, look, I think it's partially political theater. And then
underlying it is Donald Trump's going after immigrant communities. He
said he was going to go after criminals. Now he
appears to be going after restaurant workers and farm workers.
But Kira, thank you for having me on. Thank you
for covering this. You know, we're very much sending a
message out to Angelino's into everybody that peaceful protest is
one thing, but graffiti is not okay. Unpeaceful protests is
also not okay. And we have mobilized local and state
and regional law enforcement to be able to handle the
protests out in.
Speaker 2: This Lieutenant Governor, let me ask you about California's legal
attempt to block the deployment of these troops. It failed
in court, So now what, No, it didn't.
Speaker 3: Actually, it's just making its way through the process. So
the first action was that the judge didn't want to
make an immediate call, but he set a hearing for tomorrow,
and so in the courts tomorrow, the Governor and the
Attorney General of the State of California is going to
make our case that in fact, National Guard is not
legally deployed in California without the collaboration, communication and agreement
with the governor for a situation like this, you know,
most of the folks who are out in this area
and downtown Los Angeles. It's hundreds of Los Angeles Police
Department officers and Sheriff's officers who are very well equipped,
very well trained, and ready for this kind of a situation.
So for Trump to bring in the National Guard, and
this is why I'm saying it's theater is they're not necessary,
but it's part of Donald Trump wanting to just display
that he's the big strong man. He's going to come in,
he can do what he wants. But in fact, the
National Guard certainly not Marines. It's not appropriate that they're there.
We don't think it's legal that they're there. We're going
to argue that in court. But at the same time,
we're going to continue to use California law enforcement to
keep the peace.
Speaker 2: Got it all right? And well, of course follow the
Court of Parents tomorrow. Thank you for clarifying that. As
you know, Trump's declaration to deploy these troops, it didn't
even specify California in the declaration. The language was very broad.
It authorizes troops to go anywhere, actually where there are
protests against ice and ice rays. So do you think
that these troops will be deployed for sure in other states? Now?
Speaker 3: Well, We know that Trump is coming after California because
you know, he has a practice of going after people
based and entities based on grievance revenge. But the fact
is California is the fourth largest economy in the world.
If we were a country, we have a very healthy
economy here. So it is a big mistake in my opinion,
to do things, whether it's the trade wars or going
after hard working immigrants that hurt the California economy. It
is ultimately going to hurt the country because the California
economy fuels the federal government, pays the bills of the
federal government. So we're a big target. But I don't
think it ends with us at all. I think that
he is using us as sort of his first big case,
but it's very likely that he's going to go after
other states as well.
Speaker 2: So legally speaking, immigration is a federal issue, as we know,
So why should state and local leaders be able to
block those laws from being enforced.
Speaker 3: Well, I don't know which laws you're talking about. What
I can tell you is that California has because of
historic immigration patterns and frankly, the inability for Democrats and
Republicans to come together in spite of Democrats' efforts to
have comprehensive immigration reform. I have always been for that.
I'm a former US ambassador. Most of my Democratic colleagues
have also been for that. But you remember we tried
a couple of times when the Republicans stopped it because
they want to divide people over this issue. But along
the way, we have a situation where in California where
about two and a half million undocumented people live. So
these are our communities, our neighbors, our colleagues. If what
Trump is really doing is trying to you know, deport
millions of people, it is going to have a very
serious and very negative effect, certainly on our economy.
Speaker 2: Here.
Speaker 3: There is a way to go about immigration reform. There
is certainly a focus that we agree should be on
deportations of violent undocumented people who are here and lawfully.
But going after going into restaurants, going into home depots,
pulling people whether whether they are undocumented or not. Because
we just had a woman nine months pregnant, a US
citizen get detained. You know, this is is absolutely terrible
public policy. Uh, not to mention just cruel uh And
you know, and and extremely unfortunate and I.
Speaker 2: Want to follow up with that because I actually had
this written down. I want to hear what your solution is.
I grew up in California as one of the largest
undocumented populations as we know in the country. What is
your solution to those that are here illegally?
Speaker 3: So again, I'm a former United States ambassador, but I'm
also the daughter of a refugee. My husband both of
his parents were refugees. They came through the generous policies
of the United States that allowed our families to come here,
and you know, as you can seek and back in
service and to the economy in so many ways, I
believe that the American people, certainly Californians, are not anti
immigration per se. It's that people want sensible, safe from
a national security point of view, immigration policies. And I
know the Democrats tried to do this through Congress, and
the Republicans would not agree to a reform process in
order to uh to have certainty around what those what
that process looks like. And so I still think, in
spite of how how polarized the country is in so
many ways, that leaders coming together with sensible immigration policies
and a comprehensive and thoughtful way to deal with those
who are here, who are working hard, who are law
abiding you know, and and who have family here. There
is a way to do this that I think most
Americans would think is sensible, but that is not what
is happening right now.
Speaker 2: Lieutenant Governor of California, Elenni Cunelacuez, appreciate your time today