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<v Speaker 1>Aren't you gonna invite me in?

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<v Speaker 2>Yuh? I'll tell you what. This movie has some incredible

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<v Speaker 2>lines of dialogue, most notably from a one Miss Hailey Steinfeld.

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<v Speaker 2>And I have been thinking about two lines of dialogue

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<v Speaker 2>for three days now. I don't know how long ago

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<v Speaker 2>I saw this movie, and typically goo right. Here's how

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<v Speaker 2>it goes when we watch in review movies. This is

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<v Speaker 2>what happens for most people. You walk out of a theater,

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<v Speaker 2>you think it's this right, eight nine ten, in our case,

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<v Speaker 2>thirty six or seven or eight to nine forty, and

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<v Speaker 2>then after a couple of days goes down a dog

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<v Speaker 2>or two, or you're starting nitpicking it. I think just

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<v Speaker 2>the two lines of dialogue from Hailey Steinfeld has propped

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<v Speaker 2>this movie up. It might even be a dog higher

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<v Speaker 2>than what I felt like leaving the theater. I can't

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<v Speaker 2>get it out of my head. I keep thinking about

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<v Speaker 2>this movie and then like those lines of dialogue, and

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<v Speaker 2>then I start thinking about more things about this movie.

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<v Speaker 2>This movie is not perfect, but it's fucking sticking with me.

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<v Speaker 2>Go it's sticking with me.

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<v Speaker 1>But are you gonna invite people into your home now?

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<v Speaker 2>If they're proposing to do what Hailey Steinfeld is. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>she is more than welcome in vampire form or in

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<v Speaker 2>human form. I'm I'm a I'm of a mind that

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<v Speaker 2>makes some moogie. Let's say that one good? Three?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, just three, King of Queen MARYL.

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<v Speaker 2>Street Entertainment, Go and I'm Mac.

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<v Speaker 1>And you might be saying to yourself for these two

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<v Speaker 1>the same person. Now we're different. We're Mac and Go.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, we are both wearing blue today. Though good

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<v Speaker 2>coordination on our end. We just we got our real

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<v Speaker 2>hive mind, like like this movie.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like Michael A and B Jordan and all the vampiers.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, yes, today we are discussing box office sensation

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<v Speaker 2>Sinners the latest, and some may varue the greatest Ryan

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<v Speaker 2>Kugler movie starring Michael B. Jordan. Good. Sinners is a

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<v Speaker 2>movie that when it was announced maybe the middle of

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<v Speaker 2>last year, everyone was like, oh, Okay Cougler Michael B.

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<v Speaker 2>Jordan in definitely and you're like, oh, it's like a

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<v Speaker 2>horror thriller set in the nineteen.

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<v Speaker 1>Phar so other horror mystique vampire and some of us said.

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<v Speaker 2>Huh, yeah, this is weird, and this movie is weird,

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<v Speaker 2>but I think we can now officially say that Ryan Kugler,

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<v Speaker 2>when given the keys to anything, he's gonna make that

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<v Speaker 2>bitch run like this. This is an original idea, original script.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not adapting anything straight from Ryan Kugler. I'm sure

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<v Speaker 2>there were some influences, obviously. I don't know. Man, Ryan

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<v Speaker 2>Couger gets it. He can make movies.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what it reminds me of it. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>comparing it to these movies, but what I would compare

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<v Speaker 1>it to in its uniqueness and how it's doing on

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<v Speaker 1>Rotten Tomatoes and with its reception is get out and Crap.

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<v Speaker 1>I just had it in my head, the John Krasinski movie.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh well, you can't talk to anyone? The hell is

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<v Speaker 2>it called?

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<v Speaker 1>That's what it's called. You can't talk to anyone.

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<v Speaker 2>They silent, the monsters can hear. No, it's called short One.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's a lot like that where it does so

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<v Speaker 1>much right. There's some stuff that you can nitpick, obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>but they're so unique and different that they really stand out.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you looking it up?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I'm look quiet.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh it's called shut up zip it. It's called zip

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<v Speaker 1>is Ziblah.

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<v Speaker 2>It's called The Boss. Is it gonna get you? I

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<v Speaker 2>think that that's pretty pretty more so with Get Out,

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like too, in that it's a movie that

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<v Speaker 2>sits with you for a little bit and you think

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<v Speaker 2>about it and like, by the end of the year

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<v Speaker 2>you might like it more than you do now. At

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<v Speaker 2>least that's where I'm starting to trend now that I'm

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<v Speaker 2>a couple.

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<v Speaker 1>Of days truly fringe horror, like really not very like

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<v Speaker 1>this could.

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<v Speaker 2>Have been a great movie without the horror, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think there's even and we'll get into it a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>The horror isn't shoehorned in, but I feel like it

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<v Speaker 2>either could have come in earlier or remove it all

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<v Speaker 2>together and we still got it like a great movie.

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<v Speaker 1>But the horror adds a little commentary at the end.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, for sure, there's I just the horror element might

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<v Speaker 2>be my least favorite part of the movie, if that

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<v Speaker 2>makes sense. The more it complicates things a little bit,

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<v Speaker 2>and I have some critiques there, but it is like,

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<v Speaker 2>as far as vampire movies go, there's not many better, right,

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<v Speaker 2>Like vampire movies can be kind of two tongue in

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<v Speaker 2>cheek or b movie like this like takes them seriously

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<v Speaker 2>and like, I don't know, it's it's I have a

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<v Speaker 2>hard time like naming a better Van Empire movie.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm sure there's a couple, but I've never

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<v Speaker 1>seen another vampire movie. This's my first vampire movie. What

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<v Speaker 1>I love about the way they treat the vampires in

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<v Speaker 1>this movie, which also I wouldn't have minded if in

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<v Speaker 1>the trailers there was never a mention of vampires and

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<v Speaker 1>then forty five minutes in you're like, what the fuck

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<v Speaker 1>is going on? But also I will say this, they

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<v Speaker 1>respect the rules of vampires in this movie better than

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<v Speaker 1>maybe anything in a very long time.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, right, so there's two basic rules with vampires, and

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<v Speaker 2>they really just adhere to those two. They don't complicate it,

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<v Speaker 2>they don't get too much into.

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<v Speaker 1>Well there's more than just two, but yes, go ahead.

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<v Speaker 2>Well they really it's like sunlight kills them and you

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<v Speaker 2>have to invite them in that.

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<v Speaker 1>Also, wooden steaks, garlic, they have a bunch of other

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<v Speaker 1>stuff in there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you're right, you're right, Actually, yeah, true, Yeah, I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, let's let's get into it. Sinners made forty

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<v Speaker 2>eight million on its opening weekend. Huge opening for a

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<v Speaker 2>movie that's you know, not a well known, not a

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<v Speaker 2>known ip whatsoever, you know, brand new fucking idea from

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<v Speaker 2>the mind of Ryan Coogler. It's up to seventy one

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<v Speaker 2>million domestic after a week and a half, eighty seven

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<v Speaker 2>million worldwide. It's gonna make a ton of money again

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<v Speaker 2>this weekend. It's holding strong. It's had one of the

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<v Speaker 2>best strongest releases post Easter in a long long time.

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<v Speaker 2>It is a rated R action, drama, horror and thriller

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<v Speaker 2>and goo. Why this movie is so good is the

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<v Speaker 2>drama element the characters that they give you in the relationships,

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<v Speaker 2>the way these characters are connected is the best part

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<v Speaker 2>of this movie. And the other things that get brought

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<v Speaker 2>in heighten those things. But the drama element in the

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<v Speaker 2>relationship between characters here is why this movie kicks ass.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually love the little bit of humor that is

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<v Speaker 1>tossed in there because it feels so natural. And I

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<v Speaker 1>do think that has a lot to do with the

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<v Speaker 1>charisma of two Michael B.

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<v Speaker 2>Jordan's Yeah, were you distracted by two Michael BEA's at all?

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<v Speaker 2>I was distracted a.

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<v Speaker 1>Little bit because they weren't different enough, like they had

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<v Speaker 1>like minor differences. Usually when you see two of the

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<v Speaker 1>same actor, like say if they're playing twins. One of

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<v Speaker 1>them has a British accent, you know which ones which?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think they even had the same facial hair here,

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<v Speaker 2>so there was like no reason.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a cool facial hair though, like that that's of

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<v Speaker 1>the time. By the way, period piece. The look of

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<v Speaker 1>this movie, it's fucking beautiful. It is a beautiful movie,

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<v Speaker 1>and they go out of their way to like really

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<v Speaker 1>show the landscape and how big the South is the sky,

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<v Speaker 1>which does play into stuff later.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's one of those movies where the town,

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<v Speaker 2>the setting, the times becomes a character in and of itself. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>we're talking early nineteen thirties in the Deep South, where

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<v Speaker 2>there's obviously like it's there's deep racism there, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the clans involved a little bit. I think it's was

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<v Speaker 2>it Clarksville, Mississippi something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's in and around Mississippi.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it plays a big part in this movie and

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<v Speaker 2>becomes a character. And Cougar did an incredible job setting

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<v Speaker 2>that scene that time. Like there's a there's a shot

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<v Speaker 2>in this movie where smoking stack or downtown at this

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<v Speaker 2>Mississippi thing and like, oh, I need a sign, and

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<v Speaker 2>then uh, the Chinese family who is accepted in both worlds,

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<v Speaker 2>the black community and the white community. The daughter walks

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<v Speaker 2>across the street to the white side, and it's a

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<v Speaker 2>tracking shot across the street, which I loved into the

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<v Speaker 2>white like he just like the small little things like that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a it's like an eight minute tracking shot, but

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<v Speaker 2>it sets like the whole scene, and it gets you

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<v Speaker 2>to understand like the gravity of what's going on in

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<v Speaker 2>the time and place.

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<v Speaker 1>Accepted as in like they're allowed to sell people stuff

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<v Speaker 1>like I would assume that if you're looking in the

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<v Speaker 1>communities of both, they're probably not accepted in either.

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<v Speaker 2>You're right, they're they're they're outliers in both, kind of

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<v Speaker 2>pariahs in both, I suppose, but they're according to the whites,

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<v Speaker 2>higher than the black people. And then the black people

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<v Speaker 2>they're not white, so they they're able to bounce around

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<v Speaker 2>in both worlds. Good. This movie has a run time

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<v Speaker 2>of one hundred and thirty seven one hundred and thirty

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<v Speaker 2>seven minutes, two outs and seventeen minutes. I almost needed

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<v Speaker 2>like a good five or tenants ten minutes more on

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<v Speaker 2>some remic background, so a little more vampire background, a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit an earlier introduction, so that his character had

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<v Speaker 2>a little more gravity, was a little more sympathetic because

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<v Speaker 2>by the end you're actually really you really like this character,

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<v Speaker 2>and you're like, well, I wish I got a little

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<v Speaker 2>more backstory here.

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<v Speaker 1>Or even some vampire foreshadowing in the first third of

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<v Speaker 1>the movie, just a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>We needed a little bit of it, because when he's introduced,

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<v Speaker 2>it's kind of out of fucking nowhere. Like it. It

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<v Speaker 2>was mildly annoying because you go into this knowing it's

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<v Speaker 2>a vampire movie and you don't see any vamps until yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>probably the beginning of the second act, and ultimately that's okay.

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<v Speaker 2>But because the villain Remiic played by Jack O'Connell, is

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<v Speaker 2>so good and there's so many parallels being drawn between

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<v Speaker 2>what that experience is and what like the black experiences

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<v Speaker 2>in the South in the nineteen thirties, you kind of

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<v Speaker 2>wish to get a little more background there, and you

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<v Speaker 2>never get it. You just have some lines of dialogue

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<v Speaker 2>from him.

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<v Speaker 1>But also, if he wasn't there, if this wasn't a

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<v Speaker 1>vampire movie and it was just about two brothers running

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<v Speaker 1>a nightclub and then having to deal with some aftermath

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<v Speaker 1>after about maybe not making enough money or dealing with

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<v Speaker 1>the people that sold him the barn like that also

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<v Speaker 1>would have been a very interesting movie.

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<v Speaker 2>I totally agree. And I wonder, I wonder at what

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<v Speaker 2>point did this become a vampire movie or was it

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<v Speaker 2>always a vampire movie? Like was did Coogler have this

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<v Speaker 2>idea to tell this story about black people in the

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<v Speaker 2>south of the thirties and draw parallels with like the

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<v Speaker 2>whole vampire religion type of thing. And that's the other thing.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a huge religious undertone to this and questioning religion

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<v Speaker 2>and how it basically is a tool to oppress people and.

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<v Speaker 1>Has been questing the power of music as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, And that's a genius part of this script as well,

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<v Speaker 2>is it really makes you question, if you haven't already

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<v Speaker 2>ninety eight percent from the critics ninety seven percent from

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure we'll still be talking about this movie by

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so clearly once again, like hand him the keys

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<v Speaker 2>up I think at the end of this year, which

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<v Speaker 2>is in the MCU. And then something called Wrong Answer,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it was about every time I ask you

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<v Speaker 1>That many others. Michael B.

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<v Speaker 2>their troubled lives behind, twin brothers return to their hometown

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<v Speaker 2>to start again, only to discover that an even greater

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<v Speaker 2>Catan Caton as Sammy Moore slash Preacher boy one second.

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<v Speaker 2>This his first movie ever.

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<v Speaker 2>Hell of a voice.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'll also say, and it's not the fault of

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<v Speaker 2>Enough. Jack O'Connell as Remick, he is the main vampire,

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<v Speaker 2>the main villain. I guess Michael B. Jordan as both

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<v Speaker 2>Smoke and Stack, the twin brothers that we've been talking about. Goo,

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<v Speaker 1>In the movie. Now I could tell them at part

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<v Speaker 1>because one had a red suit one did not. But also,

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<v Speaker 2>Once they attached them to their loved ones, then I

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<v Speaker 2>had it figured out. Okay, And they do separate them

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<v Speaker 1>But a funny though if they called each other by

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<v Speaker 1>confused everyone, but no one would have wanted to question it.

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<v Speaker 2>What what is cool? Smoker Stack?

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<v Speaker 1>The name Stack?

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<v Speaker 2>I think smoke smokes cooler.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so we just figured it out. I'm Stack, You're smoke.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, sounds I'm thinking like stacking papers.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh but huh so all right, we'll get back to that.

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<v Speaker 2>What would you rather be? We'll ask that question.

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<v Speaker 1>Who would I rather be?

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<v Speaker 2>Smoke or Stack?

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<v Speaker 1>You'll have to tell me at the end which ones?

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<v Speaker 2>Which strong cough I have there. David Maldonado as Hogwood,

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<v Speaker 2>he's the guy that sells the property to smoke Stack.

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<v Speaker 1>I also want that name, though.

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<v Speaker 2>Hogwood, you want to be Stack, Hogwood, Hogwood, Stack, Hogwood.

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<v Speaker 2>Helena Who as Lisa Chow. She is the Chinese wife

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<v Speaker 2>and mother. Uh just yao. Apparently this gentleman just goes

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<v Speaker 2>by Yao. As Bo Chow, he was great. He's the

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<v Speaker 2>father husband, del Ray, Lindo has Delta Slim. Was awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>Every line of dialogue he.

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<v Speaker 1>Said was Was he in too much of the movie

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<v Speaker 1>to give him plemonade?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'd say so. Yeah, he's fully in two thirds

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<v Speaker 1>But look at the billing though, look how far down

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<v Speaker 2>I know.

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<v Speaker 1>But all right, Credit Union, Max, Credit Union.

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<v Speaker 2>It is a real group of characters here, Jamie Lawson

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<v Speaker 2>as Pearline. She was great too. You would know her

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<v Speaker 2>as Bella Reale from the Batman Universe. She plays a

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<v Speaker 2>nice role in this Goo. Hailey Steinfeld is Mary. You

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<v Speaker 2>want to talk plemonade. There's your fucking plemonade.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, he's in't too much of the movie. No, she's not,

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<v Speaker 1>And she's like second billing. If you look at the posters,

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<v Speaker 1>she's on the poster, you can't give her.

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<v Speaker 2>She's second billing. But she only has what like eleven manes.

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<v Speaker 1>No, you may plemonade in your pants when you saw her,

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<v Speaker 1>but come on, yeah, that's what you did.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a pe program here. Uh Goo Omar Betson

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<v Speaker 2>Miller as Cornbread. You might remember him from eight mile

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<v Speaker 1>He's also on what was the Rock?

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<v Speaker 2>It goes in the Chittn' tickey, don't freaking goes Done Done,

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<v Speaker 1>What was that show with the Rock and Rob Kaudrey

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<v Speaker 1>where they played agents. It wasn't Entourage, but it was

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<v Speaker 1>Football Ballers.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, Ballers on HBO. There you go. Uh one

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<v Speaker 2>Meme Masaku as Annie. This is Smoke's love interest. Mary

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<v Speaker 2>is stacked love interest. Uh, you would know her as

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<v Speaker 2>I wish you'd be fifteen in the Marvel universe in the.

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<v Speaker 1>MCU oh, I didn't even realize that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's her.

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<v Speaker 1>And then also she you know, also some I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>say voodoo people accuse her of you of voodoo. In

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<v Speaker 1>the movie, she is like loosely aware of She's the

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<v Speaker 1>one that everyone know what the rules are. She's the

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<v Speaker 1>Jimmie Kennedy of the movie.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Uh. We also get Buddy Guy as old Sammywards

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<v Speaker 2>the end of the movie noted blues Legend. That was great,

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<v Speaker 2>and then a couple other characters here. Saw Williams as

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<v Speaker 2>Jedi Dier. That's Preacher Boy's father the Preacher Andreine Warren

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<v Speaker 2>leg Are you great fucking scene? And then the other

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<v Speaker 2>two main vampires we meet it at some point. The

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<v Speaker 2>first two that get turned are Peter Dromanus as Bert

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<v Speaker 2>and Lola Kirk as Joan, and they were perfect at

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<v Speaker 2>like playing second fiddle as well. The casting of this

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, the casting, the like so much of this movie.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you got a Cinema score of like an a.

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<v Speaker 1>So much of this movie and the feel of this

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<v Speaker 2>It feels like a movie that did everything right and

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<v Speaker 2>so the only real things you can nitpick or or

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<v Speaker 2>script decisions. And I think that's sort of where I'm at, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>like when things take place in the story in something

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<v Speaker 2>they decided to do or not do. So it's a

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<v Speaker 2>really hard movie to criticize in that way, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think that's why you're seeing such high scores, because they

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<v Speaker 2>nail every aspect of what makes a movie good.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I think that it does lack in the horror department,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm not necessarily looking for a truly spooky scary

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<v Speaker 2>No, I agree, And I think if someone came into

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, if you're going into this looking for the full vampire,

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<v Speaker 1>gore zombie monster movie, it ain't that yet.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. No, I agree, I agree, and go another thing

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<v Speaker 2>that I think was this movie's strong point is it

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<v Speaker 2>essentially takes place over one day. You have like a

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<v Speaker 2>final fifteen minutes or so that is not taking place

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<v Speaker 2>that day, but the core of the movie. This, the

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<v Speaker 2>plot of this movie takes place one day. And I

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<v Speaker 2>love that. It's just like you're in and you're out.

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<v Speaker 2>It helps with the pacing. Even though it's a two

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<v Speaker 2>hour and seventeen minute movie, it didn't feel long. He

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<v Speaker 2>almost needed a little bit more. Like I said, the

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<v Speaker 2>music and the scores unreal and music is such a

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<v Speaker 2>central part of this more movie and storytelling, and they

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<v Speaker 2>use it in fantastical ways. There's a couple truly great

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<v Speaker 2>musical scenes here. I just I have like some questions

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<v Speaker 1>We can do that in spoilers, though, because I think

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<v Speaker 1>we can dive a little bit deeper. Let's do the

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<v Speaker 1>gauntlet real quick. I actually added one if you don't mind,

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<v Speaker 1>but okay, quite along with me. Let's go with fun factor.

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<v Speaker 1>And I thought it was the first even before we

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<v Speaker 1>got to the vampires. I thought that of Preacher Boy

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<v Speaker 1>I thought that was wildly fun.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and that's like if when you really nail a

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<v Speaker 2>setting in a period piece, it becomes fun because it's

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<v Speaker 2>like it's history and you're like, oh, this is what

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<v Speaker 2>it was like that, and you're like gripped by everything

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<v Speaker 2>a heart, Like when I'm thinking about this movie in

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<v Speaker 2>retrospect a couple of days removed, like, man, they did

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<v Speaker 2>that well, they did this well, they nailed that. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>this movie might be going up on the dog scale,

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<v Speaker 2>Like it's just it's a very fun movie, setting, characters, music,

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<v Speaker 2>Like it's a very fun movie.

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<v Speaker 1>Also, as the movie goes along, you find out a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit more each minute about smoke Stack and preach

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<v Speaker 1>a boy and their family.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, and and that's so maybe if this took place

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<v Speaker 2>over a week instead of a day, you would have

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<v Speaker 2>gotten more of that. I don't know if it's better,

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<v Speaker 2>but I like how. I like how you get the tidbits,

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<v Speaker 1>I also don't need perfect bows tied on everything. I

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<v Speaker 1>you can interpret it different ways.

422
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<v Speaker 2>And there's something to be said about like leaving the

423
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<v Speaker 2>theater wanting more of this in that you know.

424
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<v Speaker 1>So I'm glad that you brought that up, satisfactor. I

425
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<v Speaker 1>think this movie does an amazing job of giving you

426
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<v Speaker 1>a very satisfying ending, but I'm not sure if I

427
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<v Speaker 1>wanted that.

428
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<v Speaker 2>I'm I'm somewhere in and around there with you. It

429
00:21:14.880 --> 00:21:18.279
<v Speaker 2>walks a fine line at the end that I think

430
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<v Speaker 2>I liked, but I don't know if I liked, And

431
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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure as we have this conversation, I'll make my

432
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<v Speaker 2>mind up on that. There is a very satisfying Tarantino

433
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<v Speaker 2>like conclusion to our main story. And then there's like

434
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<v Speaker 2>a epilogue kind of mid credit scene that continues the

435
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<v Speaker 2>story and like it gives you a definitive answer to

436
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<v Speaker 2>a certain question. And I don't know if it needed that.

437
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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna tip my hand. I didn't care for it.

438
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<v Speaker 2>Okay, all right, that's fair, And.

439
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<v Speaker 1>The Tarantino ending almost makes it feel like that was

440
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<v Speaker 1>the ending of a movie that say, if they didn't

441
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<v Speaker 1>have the vampires, that would be the conclusion.

442
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was interesting and that part was satisfying, but

443
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<v Speaker 2>it's not the actual end of the movie, which is

444
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<v Speaker 2>why it's like, okay, And again, I wonder if when

445
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<v Speaker 2>when Koogler was writing the script, like when he decided

446
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<v Speaker 2>to put vampires in this movie. You know, I don't

447
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<v Speaker 2>know if it was something that he had from the

448
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<v Speaker 2>beginning or not. And the movie doesn't.

449
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<v Speaker 1>Tell you that or not borometer not boring.

450
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<v Speaker 2>It's not a boring movie because even.

451
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<v Speaker 1>The stuff that I and I'm not even saying I

452
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<v Speaker 1>don't like it. I just think I would have liked

453
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<v Speaker 1>the end to be a different spot. But that stuff

454
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<v Speaker 1>isn't boring. It's interesting. I'm just not sure if I

455
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<v Speaker 1>like it.

456
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and even though it takes a little bit to

457
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<v Speaker 2>get into the vampire element of this movie, because they

458
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<v Speaker 2>nailed like the time and place of nineteen thirty South,

459
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<v Speaker 2>like that stuff is not born.

460
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<v Speaker 1>I had the most fun in the setup.

461
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Yeah, agreed, Halloween.

462
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<v Speaker 1>Will this movie wane over time?

463
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<v Speaker 2>No?

464
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<v Speaker 1>I think that this will be more appreciated over time.

465
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I agree, And I think I already appreciate it

466
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<v Speaker 2>more than I did when I left the theater. I

467
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<v Speaker 2>don't know if it's gonna be like in our top

468
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<v Speaker 2>four by years end. I have a feeling like it's

469
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<v Speaker 2>probably just gonna miss out, but it'll be in the conversation,

470
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<v Speaker 2>It'll be at the very least like horrible mention for

471
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<v Speaker 2>a best movie of the year.

472
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<v Speaker 1>Hawk water World. It's better than water World for sure. Spooky, scary,

473
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<v Speaker 1>did you jump at all?

474
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<v Speaker 2>No, So it's not going back to your point about

475
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<v Speaker 2>horror movies. It's not really a great horror movie, right.

476
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<v Speaker 2>But also like vampire stuff never really leads to great

477
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<v Speaker 2>horror movies either. You know, like I, you're never truly

478
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<v Speaker 2>scared by vampires, right, it's just they are what.

479
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<v Speaker 1>Even the vampires in this I wasn't afraid of the vampires.

480
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<v Speaker 1>I found like like I did even find them eerie.

481
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<v Speaker 2>They were the only like eerie shot. Oh, there's a

482
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<v Speaker 2>couple scenes actually, when Cornbread goes out to take a piss,

483
00:23:53.279 --> 00:23:55.680
<v Speaker 2>when you hear the voices, that was cool and like spooky.

484
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<v Speaker 1>And then there's one musical thing. There's a musical thing

485
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<v Speaker 1>going on.

486
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Then when Mary goes out to confront them and

487
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<v Speaker 2>she turns and you see remick like float dish. Pretty cool.

488
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<v Speaker 1>No, I didn't like that. That's how you vampires do.

489
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<v Speaker 1>You don't know what vampires do. I don't max credit Union.

490
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<v Speaker 1>I want to give credit to the people that decided

491
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<v Speaker 1>that we're gonna play by the normal rules of vampires.

492
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<v Speaker 1>We're not gonna create our own rules. They're not gonna

493
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<v Speaker 1>sparkle in the sun. If it's the sun, they're gonna burn.

494
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<v Speaker 1>If they're not invited in a house, they're not gonna

495
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<v Speaker 1>go in. They don't like garlic. If you have silver,

496
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<v Speaker 1>they're not gonna attack you. Credit.

497
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<v Speaker 2>I give credit to Ryan Kugler for having.

498
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<v Speaker 1>He probably made the rules, so I'll give him credits together.

499
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's this is like a This is a clear

500
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<v Speaker 2>credit to Ryan Cougler for making this movie.

501
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<v Speaker 1>When life gives you plemings, you make plemonade. You said,

502
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<v Speaker 1>I can't give it to the old blues singer, So.

503
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<v Speaker 2>I don't think you can give it to Dell, right, No,

504
00:24:54.079 --> 00:24:56.519
<v Speaker 2>I think he's in it too much. That's just my opinion.

505
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<v Speaker 1>I enjoyed him, all right.

506
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<v Speaker 2>I am giving it goo to Hailey Steinfeld is married.

507
00:25:01.440 --> 00:25:02.880
<v Speaker 1>He's in it as much as him.

508
00:25:03.279 --> 00:25:05.319
<v Speaker 2>She's in the third act more, but she's not really

509
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<v Speaker 2>in the movie that much until then she gets She's

510
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<v Speaker 2>in like two scenes before the third act and both

511
00:25:12.279 --> 00:25:15.480
<v Speaker 2>are tour de forces, and then in the third act

512
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<v Speaker 2>gup once she comes back into the little what do

513
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<v Speaker 2>they call it, the juke. There she delivers two lines

514
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<v Speaker 2>of dialogue that I'm gonna be thinking about for years,

515
00:25:26.279 --> 00:25:29.440
<v Speaker 2>for years. She brought, she kicked this movie up to

516
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<v Speaker 2>another level. Without her, this movie is still really good,

517
00:25:33.559 --> 00:25:37.039
<v Speaker 2>but it's missing something. Her performance was fucking great.

518
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<v Speaker 1>Excite bike Man, pants tan City. What got you going? Mac?

519
00:25:42.519 --> 00:25:44.279
<v Speaker 1>And we know the answer.

520
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<v Speaker 2>Hailey Steinfeld. I'll tell you that. When she says want some,

521
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<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh dude, and she has a line

522
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<v Speaker 2>about Robin trains and we'll get it too that in

523
00:26:01.920 --> 00:26:05.200
<v Speaker 2>a second, I was like, that is a fucking incredible

524
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<v Speaker 2>The fact that Kugler wrote that this movie, by the way,

525
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<v Speaker 2>we have this is a perfect time to talk about it.

526
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<v Speaker 2>Excited byke Mania pants tense City. This movie is horny

527
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<v Speaker 2>as fuck. This movie is sexy. I Ryan Kugler, I

528
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<v Speaker 2>fucking you, dog, you you you went out of your

529
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<v Speaker 2>way to put in a couple of scenes in this

530
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<v Speaker 2>movie that were full pants tense City. And credit to you,

531
00:26:27.759 --> 00:26:28.119
<v Speaker 2>my man.

532
00:26:28.279 --> 00:26:32.039
<v Speaker 1>And also, it's sexy, no nudity.

533
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<v Speaker 2>No nudy. Yeah you're right, and it's still uber sexy.

534
00:26:36.160 --> 00:26:39.680
<v Speaker 1>It's horny as f and sweaty. Well yeah, you're sweat

535
00:26:39.720 --> 00:26:43.519
<v Speaker 1>till you stink, I want to taste you. For those

536
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<v Speaker 1>of you TARTI to the Mack and Goop party. We

537
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<v Speaker 1>rate everything on a forty hot Dog rating system. MAC.

538
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<v Speaker 1>I love the look of this movie. I love the

539
00:26:51.319 --> 00:26:55.680
<v Speaker 1>period piece. I love following around the twins, uh, Preacher Boy,

540
00:26:55.839 --> 00:26:59.160
<v Speaker 1>I love I like every character in this movie. They

541
00:26:59.200 --> 00:27:04.079
<v Speaker 1>went and made it where you root for every character

542
00:27:04.119 --> 00:27:06.559
<v Speaker 1>in this movie, even the ones that when they first

543
00:27:06.680 --> 00:27:08.839
<v Speaker 1>jump in there, you're like, I hate this guy. Oh wait, no,

544
00:27:08.960 --> 00:27:10.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't. I actually like this guy.

545
00:27:11.359 --> 00:27:15.519
<v Speaker 2>The vampires at one point there's a fucking musical song

546
00:27:15.599 --> 00:27:18.759
<v Speaker 2>and dance like in the Rain. Almost you're like, I

547
00:27:18.759 --> 00:27:21.200
<v Speaker 2>think I'm rudy for these guys now, Like I it

548
00:27:21.319 --> 00:27:22.440
<v Speaker 2>makes you question everything.

549
00:27:22.480 --> 00:27:25.319
<v Speaker 1>There's also a scene in the juke where Preacher Boy

550
00:27:25.359 --> 00:27:28.480
<v Speaker 1>is playing, where I'm not I'm not sure if I

551
00:27:28.519 --> 00:27:31.920
<v Speaker 1>love every choice of like the musicians that pop up

552
00:27:31.960 --> 00:27:32.279
<v Speaker 1>in there.

553
00:27:32.599 --> 00:27:33.400
<v Speaker 2>It's a transition.

554
00:27:33.640 --> 00:27:37.079
<v Speaker 1>It's a cool idea, But I think the better shot

555
00:27:37.319 --> 00:27:40.799
<v Speaker 1>is the shot from the vampires after mine. I agree

556
00:27:40.880 --> 00:27:42.240
<v Speaker 1>that it looks awesome.

557
00:27:42.440 --> 00:27:45.119
<v Speaker 2>That was really cool, where it like the walls had

558
00:27:45.119 --> 00:27:48.200
<v Speaker 2>been burnt down and they pulled back to the point

559
00:27:48.240 --> 00:27:49.640
<v Speaker 2>of view of the three Vampires.

560
00:27:49.839 --> 00:27:52.720
<v Speaker 1>You mentioned that tracking shot that I also really enjoyed

561
00:27:53.599 --> 00:27:57.039
<v Speaker 1>Michael B. Jordan his charisma to be able to pull

562
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<v Speaker 1>off both of these characters, and I really fucking love

563
00:28:02.039 --> 00:28:05.720
<v Speaker 1>this movie. My issue is that I think there was

564
00:28:05.759 --> 00:28:08.960
<v Speaker 1>a clear point that they could have cut it and

565
00:28:09.079 --> 00:28:13.920
<v Speaker 1>had almost like this inception like ending of where preach

566
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<v Speaker 1>a boy is and that's you don't know what's gonna

567
00:28:17.000 --> 00:28:20.000
<v Speaker 1>happen next, Maybe he deal, let's talk about it after.

568
00:28:20.039 --> 00:28:21.720
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to get too far into the end,

569
00:28:22.279 --> 00:28:25.200
<v Speaker 1>but the ending does make me say like, oh there,

570
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<v Speaker 1>I think there was a tidy or not even a

571
00:28:27.039 --> 00:28:28.880
<v Speaker 1>tightier because like the end that they give you is

572
00:28:28.960 --> 00:28:31.480
<v Speaker 1>really satisfactory. It's just that I don't know if I

573
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<v Speaker 1>wanted that satisfactory ending thirty six or thirty seven hot Dogs.

574
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<v Speaker 2>Cool, cool, fucking motherfucker. So when I left the theater,

575
00:28:41.240 --> 00:28:45.559
<v Speaker 2>I was thinking thirty six Hot Dogs like good, borderline,

576
00:28:45.599 --> 00:28:47.839
<v Speaker 2>great movie, a movie that I've been thinking about and

577
00:28:47.839 --> 00:28:50.000
<v Speaker 2>telling people to watch. That's what we're talking about here,

578
00:28:50.000 --> 00:28:51.839
<v Speaker 2>Like I want people to see this movie because I

579
00:28:51.839 --> 00:28:55.440
<v Speaker 2>think it's a really interesting and deep conversation you can

580
00:28:55.480 --> 00:28:58.839
<v Speaker 2>have about this movie. I do have some caveats in

581
00:28:58.880 --> 00:29:03.400
<v Speaker 2>there though caveatsbats. I was a little distracted at first

582
00:29:03.400 --> 00:29:05.559
<v Speaker 2>with the two Michael Bees. Took a little use, a

583
00:29:05.599 --> 00:29:07.279
<v Speaker 2>little time to get used to it, got over it

584
00:29:07.279 --> 00:29:09.319
<v Speaker 2>when they I liked them. They separated them so I

585
00:29:09.359 --> 00:29:11.640
<v Speaker 2>didn't have to look it to on screen at the

586
00:29:11.640 --> 00:29:14.160
<v Speaker 2>same time and like look to see if like where

587
00:29:14.200 --> 00:29:16.640
<v Speaker 2>they cut it and where a body double? Is my

588
00:29:16.880 --> 00:29:20.839
<v Speaker 2>main gripe here though, goo is we don't get into it.

589
00:29:21.240 --> 00:29:23.759
<v Speaker 2>We don't. We don't even sniff or get introduced or

590
00:29:23.799 --> 00:29:27.720
<v Speaker 2>think about vampires until like forty five minutes into this movie,

591
00:29:28.119 --> 00:29:32.720
<v Speaker 2>and you just have Remick being chased by Native Americans

592
00:29:32.759 --> 00:29:36.359
<v Speaker 2>into a house, and You're like, I knew we were

593
00:29:36.400 --> 00:29:38.799
<v Speaker 2>getting vampires, but I'm like, this is how we're doing it.

594
00:29:38.799 --> 00:29:41.839
<v Speaker 2>It's like a it's like a random outbreak, and like,

595
00:29:42.160 --> 00:29:45.799
<v Speaker 2>why are the Native Americans even introduced into this movie? Ultimately?

596
00:29:46.119 --> 00:29:48.599
<v Speaker 2>And I supposed it all over one day, so you

597
00:29:48.599 --> 00:29:51.039
<v Speaker 2>can sort of excuse where they go and like why

598
00:29:51.039 --> 00:29:53.160
<v Speaker 2>they don't do a certain thing or pop up here

599
00:29:53.240 --> 00:29:56.640
<v Speaker 2>or there. I just feel like we needed a little

600
00:29:56.720 --> 00:29:59.640
<v Speaker 2>bit more of a background of a build up for

601
00:29:59.720 --> 00:30:03.279
<v Speaker 2>rem who's our main villain here, or like an earlier

602
00:30:03.480 --> 00:30:07.640
<v Speaker 2>infusion of vampires into this story, or some drops while

603
00:30:07.680 --> 00:30:10.079
<v Speaker 2>we were in that town, right, someone in the shadows

604
00:30:10.119 --> 00:30:13.480
<v Speaker 2>or something like that. And I also think making Remick

605
00:30:14.079 --> 00:30:18.359
<v Speaker 2>slightly more sympathetic would have bumped up the climax of

606
00:30:18.400 --> 00:30:20.720
<v Speaker 2>this movie, which I loved. It was a great scene,

607
00:30:21.160 --> 00:30:24.680
<v Speaker 2>but you're not really rooting for Remick until that moment

608
00:30:24.799 --> 00:30:26.960
<v Speaker 2>because of what he's saying, and I wish we had

609
00:30:27.000 --> 00:30:29.200
<v Speaker 2>a little more sympathy on his end. It would have

610
00:30:29.240 --> 00:30:33.440
<v Speaker 2>made him a better villain. So I loved everything else

611
00:30:33.559 --> 00:30:36.759
<v Speaker 2>about this movie. I just that's my main gripe about

612
00:30:36.759 --> 00:30:39.920
<v Speaker 2>the story, and I think it's a legit gripe, where

613
00:30:40.160 --> 00:30:43.480
<v Speaker 2>like the vampire stuff feels uneven and like you just

614
00:30:43.559 --> 00:30:46.799
<v Speaker 2>maybe needed it spotted earlier or a couple more things

615
00:30:46.839 --> 00:30:50.119
<v Speaker 2>maybe explained. I have this at thirty seven hot Dogs.

616
00:30:50.599 --> 00:30:53.160
<v Speaker 2>It's gone up definitively for me. The more I'm thinking

617
00:30:53.160 --> 00:30:55.160
<v Speaker 2>about it, and the more I'm thinking about how layered

618
00:30:55.200 --> 00:30:57.440
<v Speaker 2>this movie is and the themes that they're playing with

619
00:30:57.680 --> 00:31:00.839
<v Speaker 2>and the dialogue, it's just a c And I wouldn't

620
00:31:00.839 --> 00:31:02.240
<v Speaker 2>be surprised if this goes up to thirty eight by

621
00:31:02.279 --> 00:31:03.599
<v Speaker 2>the end of the year, Like that's the type of

622
00:31:03.640 --> 00:31:05.160
<v Speaker 2>move we're talking about. It's a movie you'll be thinking

623
00:31:05.200 --> 00:31:07.400
<v Speaker 2>about all year. It's a movie you're gonna want your

624
00:31:07.400 --> 00:31:09.559
<v Speaker 2>friends to see so that you can talk to them

625
00:31:09.559 --> 00:31:10.880
<v Speaker 2>about it. It's a great movie.

626
00:31:11.039 --> 00:31:13.319
<v Speaker 1>Also, before we get to the spoilers, I love the

627
00:31:13.400 --> 00:31:17.400
<v Speaker 1>conclusion for like the conclusion to each story for both

628
00:31:17.480 --> 00:31:18.519
<v Speaker 1>Michael B. Jordan's.

629
00:31:18.920 --> 00:31:22.319
<v Speaker 2>It was fitting, really fitting for both characters. But to

630
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<v Speaker 2>your point, they do sort of tie things up in

631
00:31:25.480 --> 00:31:27.799
<v Speaker 2>a nice, neat little bow. And did we need that?

632
00:31:27.920 --> 00:31:29.960
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I think, I like, I do. I

633
00:31:30.000 --> 00:31:32.599
<v Speaker 2>did like it, But did it make the movie better?

634
00:31:32.680 --> 00:31:33.160
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

635
00:31:33.319 --> 00:31:39.319
<v Speaker 1>Spoiler spoiler spoiler, spoiler spoiler, spoiler, spoiler, spoiler spoiler. We

636
00:31:39.480 --> 00:31:42.599
<v Speaker 1>have one Michael B. Jordan that is able to die

637
00:31:42.880 --> 00:31:47.480
<v Speaker 1>and go on to the afterlife with smoke smoke okay uh,

638
00:31:47.720 --> 00:31:51.640
<v Speaker 1>with his child who passed and with what's her name?

639
00:31:52.039 --> 00:31:52.599
<v Speaker 2>Annie?

640
00:31:52.640 --> 00:31:55.400
<v Speaker 1>Annie her name? And then we have the other Michael B.

641
00:31:55.559 --> 00:32:00.440
<v Speaker 1>Jordan to stack who was able to live his life

642
00:32:00.480 --> 00:32:03.000
<v Speaker 1>and move on to a time when his love with

643
00:32:03.119 --> 00:32:06.319
<v Speaker 1>Hailey Steinfeld's character would be more accepted.

644
00:32:06.640 --> 00:32:10.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So the the mid credit or epilogue, whatever you

645
00:32:10.079 --> 00:32:12.559
<v Speaker 2>want to call it, is a sixty year time jump

646
00:32:12.599 --> 00:32:15.240
<v Speaker 2>and we see Preacher Boy has opened up his own

647
00:32:15.279 --> 00:32:19.400
<v Speaker 2>blues club in Chicago, so homage to Smoke and Stack,

648
00:32:19.720 --> 00:32:23.200
<v Speaker 2>and he calls it Pearlins, which is like one night

649
00:32:23.240 --> 00:32:25.440
<v Speaker 2>only and that man got krypt in and we'll never

650
00:32:25.480 --> 00:32:28.400
<v Speaker 2>forget that woman ever, and he's playing the blues up there,

651
00:32:28.440 --> 00:32:30.880
<v Speaker 2>and then at the end of the night, Stack and

652
00:32:30.920 --> 00:32:33.400
<v Speaker 2>Mary have to be invited into the joint. They have

653
00:32:33.519 --> 00:32:36.559
<v Speaker 2>this conversation that cuts back to the moment where Smoke,

654
00:32:36.920 --> 00:32:40.279
<v Speaker 2>where you thought Smoke had killed Stack, turns out that

655
00:32:40.279 --> 00:32:42.960
<v Speaker 2>didn't happen. Obviously. We're seeing him here and he says,

656
00:32:43.319 --> 00:32:46.039
<v Speaker 2>and this was a little corny, He's like, I'm gonna

657
00:32:46.119 --> 00:32:48.200
<v Speaker 2>let you live as long as you don't like touch

658
00:32:48.200 --> 00:32:50.319
<v Speaker 2>Preacher Boy. Don't ever affect Preacher Boy. Let that man

659
00:32:50.359 --> 00:32:52.880
<v Speaker 2>live his life. And it's just like him and Mary

660
00:32:52.920 --> 00:32:55.119
<v Speaker 2>being cool as fuck in nineteen ninety two, where in

661
00:32:55.200 --> 00:32:57.799
<v Speaker 2>ninety shit like they're like, we bought all your albums.

662
00:32:57.839 --> 00:33:00.279
<v Speaker 2>We kind of watched you from afar, Like it was

663
00:33:00.319 --> 00:33:03.640
<v Speaker 2>cool to see that Stack and Mary had like lived

664
00:33:03.680 --> 00:33:06.000
<v Speaker 2>on and like they're still doing their thing. I don't

665
00:33:06.079 --> 00:33:07.960
<v Speaker 2>know if I needed them to come back together with

666
00:33:08.039 --> 00:33:09.039
<v Speaker 2>Preacher Boys.

667
00:33:08.759 --> 00:33:12.920
<v Speaker 1>So I'm not critiquing this amazing movie, but I think

668
00:33:12.960 --> 00:33:15.720
<v Speaker 1>it would have been enough if they said, are we

669
00:33:15.799 --> 00:33:18.759
<v Speaker 1>allowed to invite these people in? He says yes, but

670
00:33:18.839 --> 00:33:22.279
<v Speaker 1>kind of cautiously, and then you just see them either

671
00:33:22.400 --> 00:33:24.559
<v Speaker 1>walk to the door or walk in the door, and

672
00:33:24.599 --> 00:33:27.000
<v Speaker 1>that's it. So you know that they're still around. You

673
00:33:27.000 --> 00:33:29.319
<v Speaker 1>know that they've lived together and had their life together,

674
00:33:29.960 --> 00:33:33.319
<v Speaker 1>and maybe Preacher Boy has also been dealing with them

675
00:33:33.640 --> 00:33:37.319
<v Speaker 1>for the sixty years since, but we don't know this,

676
00:33:37.799 --> 00:33:39.319
<v Speaker 1>like we have to fill in the gaps.

677
00:33:39.640 --> 00:33:42.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I agree with a lot of what you're saying,

678
00:33:42.440 --> 00:33:45.079
<v Speaker 2>And this is why I'm having trouble deciding whether I

679
00:33:45.240 --> 00:33:48.319
<v Speaker 2>liked this mid credit epilogue type of thing because there

680
00:33:48.359 --> 00:33:51.240
<v Speaker 2>was a couple I What I did love is seeing

681
00:33:51.279 --> 00:33:53.839
<v Speaker 2>the fact that Stack and Mary, who were like soulmates,

682
00:33:53.920 --> 00:33:55.160
<v Speaker 2>got to live their lives.

683
00:33:55.119 --> 00:33:57.240
<v Speaker 1>Which all you had to do was to see them

684
00:33:57.240 --> 00:33:59.079
<v Speaker 1>though you didn't need the conversation out.

685
00:33:59.119 --> 00:34:00.880
<v Speaker 2>And you almost didn't need to see them if if

686
00:34:00.920 --> 00:34:02.880
<v Speaker 2>it was just like, hey, we have two people at

687
00:34:02.880 --> 00:34:04.720
<v Speaker 2>the door then and know if they can come in.

688
00:34:04.680 --> 00:34:05.240
<v Speaker 1>And now that's it.

689
00:34:05.279 --> 00:34:07.200
<v Speaker 2>But I think I think that would have been would

690
00:34:07.200 --> 00:34:09.480
<v Speaker 2>have been cool. But then when they were leaving. I

691
00:34:09.679 --> 00:34:14.920
<v Speaker 2>fucking loved the acknowledgement, Preacher Boy says to Stack. He

692
00:34:15.119 --> 00:34:18.000
<v Speaker 2>was like, hey, when you said like this was the

693
00:34:18.000 --> 00:34:19.719
<v Speaker 2>best day of my life or that one that night

694
00:34:19.760 --> 00:34:21.159
<v Speaker 2>was the best night of my life, were you like

695
00:34:21.239 --> 00:34:23.480
<v Speaker 2>being truthful? And they're like, yeah, that was like the

696
00:34:23.519 --> 00:34:25.920
<v Speaker 2>last time we were truly free for that one night.

697
00:34:26.320 --> 00:34:28.559
<v Speaker 2>And like I thought that line of dialogue hit and

698
00:34:28.599 --> 00:34:30.679
<v Speaker 2>that was cool and that was cool to have like

699
00:34:30.719 --> 00:34:33.760
<v Speaker 2>that that conversation happened. But I didn't love the like

700
00:34:34.559 --> 00:34:36.400
<v Speaker 2>they sat down chumped it up for a second like

701
00:34:36.639 --> 00:34:38.760
<v Speaker 2>that I didn't love. I did love that Stack and

702
00:34:38.800 --> 00:34:40.960
<v Speaker 2>Mary like that love last forever, and I loved that

703
00:34:41.320 --> 00:34:44.320
<v Speaker 2>the acknowledgment of like the music and the blues or

704
00:34:44.360 --> 00:34:46.880
<v Speaker 2>when they were truly free. That was like they died

705
00:34:46.880 --> 00:34:48.599
<v Speaker 2>that night, but it was the best night of their life.

706
00:34:48.679 --> 00:34:52.519
<v Speaker 1>And then also with Smoke's death, While yeah, it's always

707
00:34:52.519 --> 00:34:55.920
<v Speaker 1>cool to get that Tarantino shootout at the end, I

708
00:34:56.079 --> 00:34:59.239
<v Speaker 1>had almost like so when Preacher Boy goes back to

709
00:34:59.360 --> 00:35:02.440
<v Speaker 1>the ch I kind of said to myself, oh, I

710
00:35:02.480 --> 00:35:05.760
<v Speaker 1>bet Smoke is gonna deal with the Ku Klux Klan now,

711
00:35:05.840 --> 00:35:08.079
<v Speaker 1>like off on his own and like I said it

712
00:35:08.079 --> 00:35:10.039
<v Speaker 1>in my head and just said, okay, we'll just move

713
00:35:10.079 --> 00:35:11.760
<v Speaker 1>on from this. But then they showed it.

714
00:35:11.840 --> 00:35:14.280
<v Speaker 2>Shout Out the Strangers one of my all time favorite

715
00:35:14.320 --> 00:35:17.039
<v Speaker 2>horror movies. They open and close the movie the same

716
00:35:17.079 --> 00:35:19.280
<v Speaker 2>way they do here. The opening of that movie is

717
00:35:19.320 --> 00:35:23.480
<v Speaker 2>the children walking down the street and the strangers are

718
00:35:23.480 --> 00:35:26.719
<v Speaker 2>pulled over and they get the fucking the religious pamphlets

719
00:35:26.719 --> 00:35:27.880
<v Speaker 2>and then they walk up to the house see it,

720
00:35:27.920 --> 00:35:30.400
<v Speaker 2>and it cuts back. Same sort of thing here we

721
00:35:30.480 --> 00:35:34.480
<v Speaker 2>cut It opens with Sammy preacher boy, pulling up to

722
00:35:34.559 --> 00:35:36.400
<v Speaker 2>the church, and we cut back to that. So I

723
00:35:36.440 --> 00:35:41.639
<v Speaker 2>do like that. So getting to Smoke's death, I absolutely

724
00:35:42.360 --> 00:35:46.760
<v Speaker 2>loved the climax of this movie Goo with Remick having

725
00:35:46.800 --> 00:35:49.639
<v Speaker 2>Sammy like in the Shallows, getting ready to end him.

726
00:35:50.199 --> 00:35:54.719
<v Speaker 2>The dialogue there between the two characters is fucking incredible.

727
00:35:55.000 --> 00:35:57.840
<v Speaker 2>And then when Sammy starts reciting the Ae Father and

728
00:35:57.960 --> 00:36:01.800
<v Speaker 2>Remick is also saying it, and he's like, these words

729
00:36:01.840 --> 00:36:04.440
<v Speaker 2>aren't gonna save you. They don't belong to you. They

730
00:36:04.440 --> 00:36:06.480
<v Speaker 2>are forced on you the same way they were forced

731
00:36:06.519 --> 00:36:09.239
<v Speaker 2>on me when my people got you know, taken over.

732
00:36:09.760 --> 00:36:13.719
<v Speaker 2>Like that is just such brilliant writing and moment like

733
00:36:14.199 --> 00:36:16.559
<v Speaker 2>these these words might comfort you, but they're not gonna

734
00:36:16.559 --> 00:36:20.639
<v Speaker 2>save you. Like these words are just another form of repression.

735
00:36:20.679 --> 00:36:24.000
<v Speaker 2>You're being repressed right now for racial reasons, but like

736
00:36:24.079 --> 00:36:27.119
<v Speaker 2>religion is the same shit. Like that's what Remick is

737
00:36:27.159 --> 00:36:30.559
<v Speaker 2>hammering home. And now you know the oppressed, the oppressed

738
00:36:30.559 --> 00:36:33.280
<v Speaker 2>becomes the oppressor. So not that Remi's right, but like

739
00:36:33.320 --> 00:36:36.480
<v Speaker 2>what he's saying is right. And I really loved that that,

740
00:36:36.719 --> 00:36:40.000
<v Speaker 2>Like the dynamic there, the lines, the things they're connecting

741
00:36:40.039 --> 00:36:44.320
<v Speaker 2>there was fucking great. And then Smoke saved Sammy in

742
00:36:44.360 --> 00:36:47.119
<v Speaker 2>a fantastic way, and like then the sun comes out

743
00:36:47.159 --> 00:36:48.840
<v Speaker 2>and they all get burnt up, and you think they're

744
00:36:48.880 --> 00:36:51.519
<v Speaker 2>all dead until you see Stack and Mary in the

745
00:36:51.559 --> 00:36:55.039
<v Speaker 2>post credit, and then you get like that what final

746
00:36:55.119 --> 00:36:59.079
<v Speaker 2>ten minutes where Smoke is preparing for the clan members

747
00:36:59.079 --> 00:37:01.599
<v Speaker 2>to come that next morning, and it's great. He fucking

748
00:37:01.599 --> 00:37:06.000
<v Speaker 2>demolishes him in a fantastic Tarantino style like shootout, and

749
00:37:06.039 --> 00:37:09.159
<v Speaker 2>then I did It was a beautiful scene where he's

750
00:37:09.159 --> 00:37:11.920
<v Speaker 2>sitting there because he's mortally wounded too, and he looks

751
00:37:11.920 --> 00:37:14.559
<v Speaker 2>to the right and he sees Annie who died the

752
00:37:14.639 --> 00:37:17.280
<v Speaker 2>night before, and their dead son or daughter.

753
00:37:17.320 --> 00:37:21.719
<v Speaker 1>I forget who but he also had to kill her.

754
00:37:22.000 --> 00:37:25.159
<v Speaker 1>He had to free her spirit when she became a vampire.

755
00:37:25.239 --> 00:37:27.639
<v Speaker 2>Right and then like they see the like that was

756
00:37:27.679 --> 00:37:28.599
<v Speaker 2>a really cool scene.

757
00:37:28.719 --> 00:37:30.960
<v Speaker 1>It was. I just wasn't sure if I needed that

758
00:37:31.000 --> 00:37:31.519
<v Speaker 1>scene though.

759
00:37:31.760 --> 00:37:34.960
<v Speaker 2>Annie. He has a great line of dialogue though she

760
00:37:35.159 --> 00:37:38.400
<v Speaker 2>calls him by his real name, which I forget, and

761
00:37:39.320 --> 00:37:42.000
<v Speaker 2>she says put that out. I don't want any smoke

762
00:37:42.119 --> 00:37:44.760
<v Speaker 2>on her saying I don't want first of all, the smoke,

763
00:37:44.840 --> 00:37:47.199
<v Speaker 2>but like, I don't want the character of smoke in

764
00:37:47.280 --> 00:37:49.719
<v Speaker 2>the afterlife. I want the real youth. That was a

765
00:37:49.760 --> 00:37:52.639
<v Speaker 2>great line of dialogue too. It was a really cool death,

766
00:37:53.039 --> 00:37:53.480
<v Speaker 2>great way.

767
00:37:53.639 --> 00:37:55.519
<v Speaker 1>My wife said the same thing to me, but she

768
00:37:55.599 --> 00:38:00.000
<v Speaker 1>said goo, I was holding slime at the time.

769
00:38:00.679 --> 00:38:07.280
<v Speaker 2>Yes. So, getting back to your overarching point about things

770
00:38:07.320 --> 00:38:09.559
<v Speaker 2>being kind of tied up in a nice, neat little knot,

771
00:38:09.880 --> 00:38:11.760
<v Speaker 2>I think there's some people that are gonna be really

772
00:38:11.800 --> 00:38:15.199
<v Speaker 2>satisfied by that. How like the characters we thought were super.

773
00:38:14.960 --> 00:38:19.119
<v Speaker 1>Cool satisfactors through the Roof, I just don't I also think.

774
00:38:18.960 --> 00:38:22.000
<v Speaker 2>There are people more Cinophiles that are going to be

775
00:38:22.039 --> 00:38:25.000
<v Speaker 2>like for the story, it would have been better if

776
00:38:25.039 --> 00:38:26.039
<v Speaker 2>they cut it off here.

777
00:38:26.079 --> 00:38:28.360
<v Speaker 1>Because I think it would have been its best ending

778
00:38:28.760 --> 00:38:31.920
<v Speaker 1>with Preacher Boy's father saying put that guitar down, and

779
00:38:31.920 --> 00:38:34.320
<v Speaker 1>then it just cuts to him on the road holding

780
00:38:34.320 --> 00:38:35.800
<v Speaker 1>it the guitar and that's it.

781
00:38:36.000 --> 00:38:39.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I liked and I love because and it

782
00:38:39.519 --> 00:38:43.000
<v Speaker 2>goes back to his conversation with Stack in the future.

783
00:38:44.079 --> 00:38:47.800
<v Speaker 2>He chooses music and the blues over the religion because

784
00:38:47.840 --> 00:38:50.280
<v Speaker 2>the music and the blues is when he's truly free.

785
00:38:50.480 --> 00:38:53.320
<v Speaker 2>It's truly when he's himself and he like he is

786
00:38:53.360 --> 00:38:55.639
<v Speaker 2>bringing up those souls and everything from the.

787
00:38:55.800 --> 00:38:58.199
<v Speaker 1>But you could have just you didn't need that conversation.

788
00:38:58.320 --> 00:39:00.719
<v Speaker 1>You could have just no, I had movie get that.

789
00:39:01.039 --> 00:39:03.480
<v Speaker 2>I get that, and that's where and that's where I

790
00:39:03.519 --> 00:39:06.280
<v Speaker 2>feel like, you know, maybe you're you're you're closer to

791
00:39:06.320 --> 00:39:08.400
<v Speaker 2>forty hot Dogs if there's a little more of that

792
00:39:08.440 --> 00:39:11.239
<v Speaker 2>inceptioning stuff that you're talking about there. But like, the

793
00:39:11.360 --> 00:39:14.960
<v Speaker 2>music is fucking fantastic, dude. Like the soundtrack and like,

794
00:39:15.559 --> 00:39:17.760
<v Speaker 2>what is it Lugwood Gordonson who did the score and

795
00:39:17.840 --> 00:39:20.760
<v Speaker 2>the music for this movie. Fucking phenomenal dude, Like one

796
00:39:20.800 --> 00:39:23.760
<v Speaker 2>of the most memorable soundtracks and scores in a while.

797
00:39:23.800 --> 00:39:26.840
<v Speaker 2>And like the music is a character in this movie.

798
00:39:26.960 --> 00:39:29.679
<v Speaker 2>The setting, the time, the place, to character. Like, this

799
00:39:29.719 --> 00:39:32.639
<v Speaker 2>movie just does everything well. It does everything well.

800
00:39:32.920 --> 00:39:36.199
<v Speaker 1>I also loved when Smoke revealed that the guitar was

801
00:39:36.239 --> 00:39:39.159
<v Speaker 1>their fathers. Yeah that was great, and that Sack had

802
00:39:39.239 --> 00:39:40.880
<v Speaker 1>lied about where they got it from.

803
00:39:41.119 --> 00:39:43.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, that was good. And there was like so

804
00:39:43.440 --> 00:39:45.880
<v Speaker 2>that's the other thing too, Like we don't get much

805
00:39:45.920 --> 00:39:49.079
<v Speaker 2>about their background, Like they allude to fighting in World

806
00:39:49.119 --> 00:39:52.639
<v Speaker 2>War One, you know, they left, go to Chicago, come back.

807
00:39:53.000 --> 00:39:55.000
<v Speaker 2>We don't get like any background there. We don't get

808
00:39:55.280 --> 00:39:58.559
<v Speaker 2>the I think what we needed was some vampire background.

809
00:39:58.760 --> 00:39:59.840
<v Speaker 2>So that's where I have like some.

810
00:40:00.079 --> 00:40:02.960
<v Speaker 1>We also like we don't truly know what they did

811
00:40:02.960 --> 00:40:03.760
<v Speaker 1>to get their money.

812
00:40:03.800 --> 00:40:06.760
<v Speaker 2>It's just right right, yeah, Rob the Irish and the

813
00:40:06.760 --> 00:40:10.000
<v Speaker 2>Italians in Chicago. Like, and that's where at two hours

814
00:40:10.000 --> 00:40:12.760
<v Speaker 2>and seventeen minutes, I know this is technically a long movie,

815
00:40:13.119 --> 00:40:15.679
<v Speaker 2>but it feels like we needed like another ten minutes

816
00:40:15.719 --> 00:40:18.400
<v Speaker 2>of that stuff and maybe five minutes less on the.

817
00:40:18.360 --> 00:40:21.880
<v Speaker 1>Back, I would have preferred that stuff over the satisfactory ending.

818
00:40:22.039 --> 00:40:24.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I get that. I get that, And and I

819
00:40:24.400 --> 00:40:27.320
<v Speaker 2>don't know if I'm quite as far they're saying, I

820
00:40:27.360 --> 00:40:29.559
<v Speaker 2>don't know if I like I did like a lot

821
00:40:29.599 --> 00:40:31.480
<v Speaker 2>of what we got at the end. But I agree,

822
00:40:31.800 --> 00:40:34.320
<v Speaker 2>like with with your sentiment there, but like that's what

823
00:40:34.360 --> 00:40:36.679
<v Speaker 2>we're talking about, Like we're nitpicking because it's a great movie.

824
00:40:38.679 --> 00:40:40.719
<v Speaker 1>We should have said this at the beginning, we recommend

825
00:40:40.719 --> 00:40:42.679
<v Speaker 1>this movie.

826
00:40:43.280 --> 00:40:45.880
<v Speaker 2>So like I feel like I'm having a thirty seven

827
00:40:45.920 --> 00:40:48.000
<v Speaker 2>hot dogs and I'm like, as I'm talking about, maybe

828
00:40:48.000 --> 00:40:50.000
<v Speaker 2>it is thirty eight. Like it's not a forty hot

829
00:40:50.039 --> 00:40:52.000
<v Speaker 2>dog movie. Don't get me wrong, It's not gonna it's

830
00:40:52.000 --> 00:40:54.559
<v Speaker 2>not gonna get to that pantheon, but it is one

831
00:40:54.559 --> 00:40:56.760
<v Speaker 2>of the best movies of the year, and it is

832
00:40:56.800 --> 00:40:58.639
<v Speaker 2>gonna be a movie you think about all year.

833
00:40:58.840 --> 00:41:01.760
<v Speaker 1>Are there any of your questions, cons and pros that

834
00:41:01.800 --> 00:41:02.639
<v Speaker 1>we did not get to.

835
00:41:02.840 --> 00:41:05.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so we talked about the vampire stuff. Again, I

836
00:41:05.280 --> 00:41:08.199
<v Speaker 2>wanted early intro remic, being more sympathetic would have been better.

837
00:41:08.440 --> 00:41:11.159
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah. Also, here's a big question for you. We

838
00:41:11.159 --> 00:41:13.679
<v Speaker 2>didn't talk about this. What did you think about Grace

839
00:41:14.079 --> 00:41:16.519
<v Speaker 2>and them setting up her daughter and that being the

840
00:41:16.559 --> 00:41:19.679
<v Speaker 2>reason for them to yell for the vampire. They they

841
00:41:19.679 --> 00:41:21.719
<v Speaker 2>did need a reason. I don't know. That's why I'm like,

842
00:41:21.880 --> 00:41:23.239
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if I loved it, but I don't

843
00:41:23.239 --> 00:41:25.400
<v Speaker 2>know how you do it better than what they chose

844
00:41:25.440 --> 00:41:27.480
<v Speaker 2>to do it. They like intentionally set it up so

845
00:41:27.519 --> 00:41:30.199
<v Speaker 2>that she had the daughter to motivate her in that scene.

846
00:41:30.239 --> 00:41:31.679
<v Speaker 2>I get it. I don't know if I loved it,

847
00:41:32.159 --> 00:41:34.199
<v Speaker 2>But where the fuck did the Native Americans go?

848
00:41:34.480 --> 00:41:36.679
<v Speaker 1>I was asking that the entire time, and I thought

849
00:41:36.719 --> 00:41:38.519
<v Speaker 1>at some point they were going to show up to

850
00:41:38.719 --> 00:41:42.239
<v Speaker 1>help the final two or three living people, or like.

851
00:41:42.320 --> 00:41:45.280
<v Speaker 2>That morning when the clan arrived, like they roll up

852
00:41:45.320 --> 00:41:48.320
<v Speaker 2>on Michael as he's already like took taking them out,

853
00:41:48.400 --> 00:41:51.039
<v Speaker 2>Like it was just it was weird, like and that's it.

854
00:41:51.119 --> 00:41:54.119
<v Speaker 2>It goes back to like they're in the vampire introduction

855
00:41:54.199 --> 00:41:56.599
<v Speaker 2>scene and that scene feels really out of place because

856
00:41:56.599 --> 00:41:59.440
<v Speaker 2>they're there and the vampires there forty five minutes in

857
00:41:59.639 --> 00:42:01.639
<v Speaker 2>we never ever see them again, and like that's how

858
00:42:01.639 --> 00:42:04.719
<v Speaker 2>we get the vampire intro that. Like I didn't love that.

859
00:42:04.800 --> 00:42:07.239
<v Speaker 2>I really didn't love how the vampire stuff came into it,

860
00:42:07.280 --> 00:42:09.760
<v Speaker 2>and I didn't love how the Native Americans just never

861
00:42:09.800 --> 00:42:10.320
<v Speaker 2>came back.

862
00:42:10.480 --> 00:42:12.000
<v Speaker 1>Are there any of your pros that.

863
00:42:12.239 --> 00:42:17.199
<v Speaker 2>There's also an actual post credit of the gentleman who

864
00:42:17.239 --> 00:42:21.039
<v Speaker 2>played Sammy Miles, Cat and katan On Isaay's name, uh

865
00:42:21.079 --> 00:42:23.679
<v Speaker 2>playing music for like a minute at the end, him singing, I.

866
00:42:23.639 --> 00:42:26.000
<v Speaker 1>Wish I stayed for that. I thought that singing in

867
00:42:26.039 --> 00:42:27.639
<v Speaker 1>the music in this was fantastic.

868
00:42:27.920 --> 00:42:30.800
<v Speaker 2>That man has an incredible voice. Incredible voice.

869
00:42:30.840 --> 00:42:33.519
<v Speaker 1>Can you recommend this to non horror people?

870
00:42:34.159 --> 00:42:36.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because it's not that scary. It's just it's an

871
00:42:36.800 --> 00:42:39.599
<v Speaker 2>element of it. It's more of a thriller than it

872
00:42:39.639 --> 00:42:42.239
<v Speaker 2>is like a horror like I. And there is some

873
00:42:42.360 --> 00:42:44.159
<v Speaker 2>blood in a little bit of gore, but it's not

874
00:42:44.239 --> 00:42:45.880
<v Speaker 2>over the top and I don't think it's something that

875
00:42:45.920 --> 00:42:48.000
<v Speaker 2>people wouldn't be able to stomach if you're not into that.

876
00:42:48.400 --> 00:42:50.239
<v Speaker 2>I think this is a movie you can recommend to everyone.

877
00:42:50.320 --> 00:42:53.960
<v Speaker 1>And they're also not using the vampires as monsters as

878
00:42:54.039 --> 00:42:56.440
<v Speaker 1>much as they were using them to just get the

879
00:42:56.639 --> 00:42:57.639
<v Speaker 1>point across.

880
00:42:57.920 --> 00:43:00.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's more of an allegory and it's and it's

881
00:43:00.320 --> 00:43:03.239
<v Speaker 2>more of a storytelling element than it is to scare people.

882
00:43:08.800 --> 00:43:14.239
<v Speaker 1>Let's get into Max Sack. Ma Sack could be anything.

883
00:43:14.280 --> 00:43:16.360
<v Speaker 1>It could be a boat and Mac. In the movie

884
00:43:16.400 --> 00:43:19.679
<v Speaker 1>that we just saw, Michael B. Jordan played not one

885
00:43:20.360 --> 00:43:24.440
<v Speaker 1>but two characters. I Am gonna run through the Mount

886
00:43:24.559 --> 00:43:30.360
<v Speaker 1>rushmore of I believe the greatest actor playing two characters

887
00:43:30.400 --> 00:43:33.199
<v Speaker 1>in a movie, maybe more than two characters in a movie.

888
00:43:33.239 --> 00:43:36.119
<v Speaker 1>Tell me if you believe Michael B. Jordan did a

889
00:43:36.159 --> 00:43:38.800
<v Speaker 1>better job than the actors that I read off.

890
00:43:39.400 --> 00:43:41.039
<v Speaker 2>Okay, fair enough, let's do it.

891
00:43:41.599 --> 00:43:46.000
<v Speaker 1>Michael B. Jordan versus Jack Nicholson in Mars Attacks.

892
00:43:47.679 --> 00:43:48.840
<v Speaker 2>I'll take Michael be here.

893
00:43:49.360 --> 00:43:52.360
<v Speaker 1>He plays the president, he plays that other guy. You

894
00:43:52.400 --> 00:43:53.440
<v Speaker 1>don't like it.

895
00:43:53.440 --> 00:43:55.639
<v Speaker 2>It might be one of Jack Nicholson's finest roles.

896
00:43:55.679 --> 00:44:03.880
<v Speaker 1>Actually, that's your weezer take, that's your the shining No

897
00:44:04.360 --> 00:44:09.960
<v Speaker 1>One flew over a Cuckoo's Nest, No Mars Attacks. Michael B.

898
00:44:10.440 --> 00:44:15.159
<v Speaker 1>Jordan versus Mike Myers in the Austin Powers trilogy.

899
00:44:15.400 --> 00:44:18.599
<v Speaker 2>As much as I enjoy that, and as much as

900
00:44:18.599 --> 00:44:21.679
<v Speaker 2>I enjoy Eddie Murphy as I'm sure you're gonna bring

901
00:44:21.719 --> 00:44:23.559
<v Speaker 2>up in a second, don't you give me Michael B.

902
00:44:23.840 --> 00:44:24.519
<v Speaker 2>Give me Michael B.

903
00:44:25.000 --> 00:44:30.559
<v Speaker 1>Austin Powers, Doctor Evil, Fat Bastard, gold Member, give me

904
00:44:30.639 --> 00:44:32.559
<v Speaker 1>Michael B. I'm taking Austin Powers.

905
00:44:33.320 --> 00:44:33.840
<v Speaker 2>Fair enough.

906
00:44:33.960 --> 00:44:38.719
<v Speaker 1>Michael B. Jordan versus Eddie Murphy in all of his movies.

907
00:44:38.920 --> 00:44:39.760
<v Speaker 2>I'll take Michael B.

908
00:44:40.119 --> 00:44:43.960
<v Speaker 1>Coming to America. He plays like five characters the clumps.

909
00:44:44.039 --> 00:44:48.440
<v Speaker 1>He's all of the clumps, not professor in Norbit. He's

910
00:44:48.480 --> 00:44:55.480
<v Speaker 1>both Norbert and resputant. Respuccha Respoocha, not resputing Rah Rah Resputin.

911
00:44:55.960 --> 00:44:58.199
<v Speaker 1>All right, how about this one then, Michael B. Jordan

912
00:44:58.320 --> 00:45:02.000
<v Speaker 1>versus Lindsey Lowe in The Parent Trap.

913
00:45:02.360 --> 00:45:04.519
<v Speaker 2>Now we're talking. Now we're talking here. This is a

914
00:45:04.519 --> 00:45:09.800
<v Speaker 2>real tough one. You got Lindsay Lohan playing American Lindsay Lohan,

915
00:45:10.000 --> 00:45:13.039
<v Speaker 2>and you have Lindsay Lohan playing British Lindsay Lohan.

916
00:45:13.119 --> 00:45:16.000
<v Speaker 1>That was the joke that I made earlier, by the way, Yeah.

917
00:45:15.800 --> 00:45:19.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think I think you might go Lindsay Lohan here.

918
00:45:19.760 --> 00:45:22.719
<v Speaker 2>She really showed her acting chops with her British accent.

919
00:45:23.360 --> 00:45:28.280
<v Speaker 1>Is double Lindsay Lohan the greatest twin role of all time?

920
00:45:29.239 --> 00:45:30.000
<v Speaker 2>It just might be.

921
00:45:30.239 --> 00:45:33.159
<v Speaker 1>It just might be because also she was such an unknown

922
00:45:33.639 --> 00:45:36.000
<v Speaker 1>that you thought there actually were two of her.

923
00:45:36.360 --> 00:45:39.840
<v Speaker 2>I thought there was two twins, much like the Olsen twins,

924
00:45:39.920 --> 00:45:40.320
<v Speaker 2>so just.

925
00:45:40.280 --> 00:45:43.119
<v Speaker 1>Had their movie It Takes Two, pretty much the exact

926
00:45:43.119 --> 00:45:44.119
<v Speaker 1>same movie.

927
00:45:44.400 --> 00:45:47.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I thought there was two Lindsay Lohans for five

928
00:45:47.719 --> 00:45:50.119
<v Speaker 2>years until like early two thousands, when you figure out, oh,

929
00:45:50.119 --> 00:45:51.039
<v Speaker 2>it's just her.

930
00:45:51.039 --> 00:45:53.000
<v Speaker 1>As a part of my childhood. We'd always go to

931
00:45:53.079 --> 00:45:55.159
<v Speaker 1>Maine every year. We still do this as a family,

932
00:45:55.559 --> 00:45:58.360
<v Speaker 1>and we would stay in a cottage that wouldn't have

933
00:45:58.440 --> 00:46:02.000
<v Speaker 1>any cable, but there'd be VCR so you'd spend a

934
00:46:02.039 --> 00:46:05.480
<v Speaker 1>lot of time watching tapes. We would. I remember one

935
00:46:05.599 --> 00:46:09.360
<v Speaker 1>year we just rotated it was It Takes Two and Grease?

936
00:46:11.000 --> 00:46:12.039
<v Speaker 2>Is that why you hate Grease?

937
00:46:12.199 --> 00:46:16.280
<v Speaker 1>And then we also had of vhs of things that

938
00:46:16.320 --> 00:46:19.840
<v Speaker 1>we recorded off the television, so we watched a lot

939
00:46:19.960 --> 00:46:22.159
<v Speaker 1>of There was an episode of Third Rock from the

940
00:46:22.239 --> 00:46:25.800
<v Speaker 1>Sun where they snuck into the super Bowl, so on

941
00:46:25.840 --> 00:46:29.039
<v Speaker 1>a loop it takes to Grease and the Third Rock

942
00:46:29.079 --> 00:46:31.880
<v Speaker 1>from the Sun where they snuck into the super Bowl

943
00:46:31.960 --> 00:46:33.280
<v Speaker 1>and Tommy was a baby.

944
00:46:33.719 --> 00:46:35.840
<v Speaker 2>Okay, all right, Wow.

945
00:46:36.280 --> 00:46:38.480
<v Speaker 1>If I had won more, I can make a Mount Rushmore.

946
00:46:39.559 --> 00:46:41.400
<v Speaker 1>You know what's crazy is on Facebook and I keep

947
00:46:41.400 --> 00:46:44.360
<v Speaker 1>on these keep on popping up to me. Is so

948
00:46:44.480 --> 00:46:49.039
<v Speaker 1>there's the ai Mount rushmorees that people are making and

949
00:46:49.400 --> 00:46:53.239
<v Speaker 1>some people, too many people are putting five faces on

950
00:46:53.280 --> 00:46:53.639
<v Speaker 1>a rock.

951
00:46:54.639 --> 00:46:56.440
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, so they're not even a war.

952
00:46:57.559 --> 00:47:00.559
<v Speaker 1>That's very funny, but it makes me laugh every gold time.

953
00:47:00.639 --> 00:47:04.519
<v Speaker 1>And like there's one rule to them. Ount Rushmore four faces,

954
00:47:07.280 --> 00:47:10.559
<v Speaker 1>unless you're counting Bulk and Skull as one, which I am.

955
00:47:10.840 --> 00:47:13.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'll do that. I'll kay. Like, if you're gonna

956
00:47:13.440 --> 00:47:15.679
<v Speaker 2>put two Lindsay Lohans on there, they count as one.

957
00:47:15.679 --> 00:47:17.599
<v Speaker 1>All right, Mac, Where can the folks find us?

958
00:47:17.840 --> 00:47:19.760
<v Speaker 2>You can find us on Twitter and on Instagram, at

959
00:47:19.840 --> 00:47:23.440
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960
00:47:23.880 --> 00:47:27.639
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961
00:47:27.639 --> 00:47:31.519
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962
00:47:31.559 --> 00:47:34.639
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00:47:34.719 --> 00:47:37.480
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964
00:47:37.480 --> 00:47:39.159
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965
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00:47:47.039 --> 00:47:50.960
<v Speaker 1>Teapublic dot com mer check us out. Next week we'll

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00:47:51.079 --> 00:47:56.079
<v Speaker 1>do news dump and then is Revenge of the Sith. Oh,

970
00:47:56.119 --> 00:47:58.360
<v Speaker 1>it's right, so I'm sorry, Revenge of the Sith on Monday,

971
00:47:59.039 --> 00:48:00.719
<v Speaker 1>and then maybe in news dump at the end of

972
00:48:00.719 --> 00:48:02.639
<v Speaker 1>the week. But his thunderbolts out next week.

973
00:48:03.119 --> 00:48:05.920
<v Speaker 2>Two weeks. I thought, but maybe you're right. It's on May,

974
00:48:06.079 --> 00:48:07.000
<v Speaker 2>isn't It is May?

975
00:48:07.079 --> 00:48:10.800
<v Speaker 1>Next week when Thunderbolts is out, we'll talk about Thunderbolts.

976
00:48:11.119 --> 00:48:17.039
<v Speaker 2>Give me your your your your glass half full sort

977
00:48:17.079 --> 00:48:19.760
<v Speaker 2>of expectation for Thunderbolts.

978
00:48:19.400 --> 00:48:21.960
<v Speaker 1>Like as a positive or a negative class.

979
00:48:22.000 --> 00:48:23.519
<v Speaker 2>Half full is a positive.

980
00:48:24.880 --> 00:48:25.960
<v Speaker 1>Team dynamic.

981
00:48:27.159 --> 00:48:30.880
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I was expecting more like never mind.

982
00:48:31.400 --> 00:48:33.079
<v Speaker 1>I thought we're back in the pyramid.

983
00:48:33.199 --> 00:48:35.599
<v Speaker 2>It was a bad question. It was a worse answer.

984
00:48:36.280 --> 00:48:38.480
<v Speaker 1>It's like that Ryan Coogler movie that's coming out.

985
00:48:38.800 --> 00:48:43.480
<v Speaker 2>I meant, it's a good callback right there. I met like,

986
00:48:44.039 --> 00:48:45.960
<v Speaker 2>if this movie is gonna be good, how is it

987
00:48:46.000 --> 00:48:49.000
<v Speaker 2>gonna how is how is it gonna affect like the MCU.

988
00:48:49.239 --> 00:48:51.480
<v Speaker 1>If it's gonna be good, it's gonna be on the

989
00:48:51.559 --> 00:48:54.159
<v Speaker 1>back of this team. The team dynamic will be what

990
00:48:54.280 --> 00:48:55.679
<v Speaker 1>makes it good, is what I'm saying.

991
00:48:55.920 --> 00:48:59.239
<v Speaker 2>Okay, fair enough, that's a fair answer. I think. I

992
00:48:59.360 --> 00:49:01.639
<v Speaker 2>think of this movie is gonna be good, it's because

993
00:49:02.360 --> 00:49:05.760
<v Speaker 2>Century is really cool and Century is gonna matter going forward.

994
00:49:06.119 --> 00:49:08.920
<v Speaker 1>I think if it's bad, it's because Century is boring.

995
00:49:09.519 --> 00:49:11.840
<v Speaker 2>That might be right too. Yeah, all right.

996
00:49:11.920 --> 00:49:16.559
<v Speaker 1>So Tuesdays or Goose Days, I abuse kangaroos, Jimbarton.

997
00:49:17.280 --> 00:49:19.119
<v Speaker 2>Bye.

998
00:49:23.760 --> 00:49:26.320
<v Speaker 1>Please flip the cassette over to side B to continue

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<v Speaker 1>the adventure. Now it's time for girls jumping on trampolines. Trimbopolines,