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Speaker 3: We will be talking tucking later on this evening, beginning
Speaker 3: at nine o'clock about the news story of the day,
Speaker 3: and that is the election of the first American pope.
Speaker 3: Pope Leo the fourteenth, formerly Cardinal Robert Privo of Chicago
Speaker 3: and also Peru, and we'll kind of work through.
Speaker 2: All of that.
Speaker 3: We have a couple of guests lined up who can
Speaker 3: talk about the process and his background. And it was stunning,
Speaker 3: is the I think it's the two hundred and sixty
Speaker 3: seventh pope in the history of the Catholic Church, first
Speaker 3: from the United States, and of course we've only been
Speaker 3: around two in and fifty years, so the first I
Speaker 3: don't know, first two thousand, the first couple one hundred,
Speaker 3: two hundred and forty really don't count, but anyway, well
Speaker 3: they do count for the church, but we did. We
Speaker 3: weren't America then, so we could not have been competing.
Speaker 3: But we have finally an American pope and those of
Speaker 3: us you don't have to be a Catholic to be
Speaker 3: happy about that. I think it's great and we'll talk
Speaker 3: about that. We'll also talk about later on tonight, perhaps
Speaker 3: Joe Biden and Joe Biden's appearance today on the View
Speaker 3: that was interesting. We have some interesting sound from that
Speaker 3: as well. But first, we have four really interesting guests
Speaker 3: in the first hour, as we always do, and we're
Speaker 3: going to start it off tonight with doctor Joshlyn Witstein,
Speaker 3: a board certified orthopedic surgeon and Associate professor of orthopedic
Speaker 3: Surgery at Duke University School of Medicine. Duke is a
Speaker 3: great school buddy of mine who played basketball there many
Speaker 3: many years ago and went on to.
Speaker 2: A great NBA career, Jack Marin.
Speaker 3: So I never went to Duke, never never been on
Speaker 3: Duke's campus, but I feel a little closeness to Duke
Speaker 3: University because of my friendship with Jack Marron. Doctor Witchstein,
Speaker 3: welcome to night Side.
Speaker 1: How are you very good?
Speaker 4: Thanks for having me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you've had some other good basketball players along the way,
Speaker 3: so yeah, they've got a few and a couple of
Speaker 3: good coaches as well. One that plays in the Celtics
Speaker 3: right now, and we'll talk about that later. May is
Speaker 3: National Arthritis Awareness Month and also National Osteoporosis Awareness and
Speaker 3: Prevention Month, And anyone who is on the wrong side
Speaker 3: of fifty, as I say, has an increased risk for
Speaker 3: arthritis in or osteoporosis. So the first question is there
Speaker 3: are a huge There has to be a huge difference
Speaker 3: between these two. But I think some people, including me,
Speaker 3: tend to use them interchangeably. Tell us if you could
Speaker 3: in quick terms the distinctions between these two conditions.
Speaker 4: Yeah, happy to I'm always you know, I think about
Speaker 4: them as being very different, of course, but if you're
Speaker 4: not a doctor or in the medical field, it's confusing.
Speaker 4: So osteoporosis is specifically a definition of thinning of the
Speaker 4: or loss of bone density. So it's you know, how
Speaker 4: dense and how strong are your bones. Osteo Arthritis is
Speaker 4: how worn down or worn out are your joints. So
Speaker 4: the wearing down of the cartilage, formation of bones, burrs
Speaker 4: and the joints, and of course our bones and our
Speaker 4: joints are connected, but these are very different processes that
Speaker 4: do happen to both affect people often over the age
Speaker 4: of fifty.
Speaker 3: So what can those of us on the wrong side
Speaker 3: of fifty, even those in the right side of fifty
Speaker 3: but approaching fifty, what can they do to ward off
Speaker 3: early onset of these conditions or even worse yet, them
Speaker 3: really causing significant problems as we all age.
Speaker 4: I think that it's easy to talk about prevention of osteoporosis.
Speaker 4: That can be sort of a lifelong preventative measure, or
Speaker 4: it could be something that you start working on even
Speaker 4: if you've already developed some osteoporosis or loss of bone density.
Speaker 4: The most important aspects of maintaining your bone density are
Speaker 4: participating in strength training programs, including resistance training like lifting weights.
Speaker 4: Participating in a little bit of jumping something that causes
Speaker 4: some impact on your bone stimulates bone density. And then
Speaker 4: while we want you to build bone density, it's also
Speaker 4: important to not fall, So it's important to work on
Speaker 4: balance and a little bit of agility. So fall prevention,
Speaker 4: combined with making your bones more dense can help you
Speaker 4: not break a bone as you get folder. It's a
Speaker 4: little bit trickier to talk about how do we prevent earthritis,
Speaker 4: because one in four adults will develop arthritis at some point.
Speaker 4: But one of the most preventive things that people can
Speaker 4: do to reduce the risk of developing arthritis is to
Speaker 4: maintain a healthy body weight, because obesity is certainly associated
Speaker 4: with earthritis and progression of earthritis.
Speaker 3: What about drinking milk. I'm a big milk drinker, and
Speaker 3: I always thought that drinking milk, even into our time
Speaker 3: on the other side of fifty, on the wrong side
Speaker 3: of fifty, helps with both of those conditions or is
Speaker 3: that perhaps something that I was told when I was
Speaker 3: young that no longer was true.
Speaker 4: So milk is an excellent source of calcium. It's very
Speaker 4: what we called bioavailable, meaning you can absorb it pretty easily.
Speaker 4: And calcium is an important nutrient to get from your
Speaker 4: diet for your bone density and your bone health. Calcium
Speaker 4: isn't particularly helpful for your joint health. One thing that
Speaker 4: we need to remember, though, is that when we're thinking
Speaker 4: of foods that nourish your bones and help you maintain
Speaker 4: bone density, calcium is just one part of the picture,
Speaker 4: and it doesn't all have to come from milk. It
Speaker 4: can also come from vegetables, for instance.
Speaker 3: Any particular vegetables across the board, because again I'm someone
Speaker 3: who listens, and if it's all vegetables, that's great, But
Speaker 3: if there's a couple.
Speaker 2: Yeah we should.
Speaker 4: Those I think the best, right, the best ones to
Speaker 4: focus on in terms of plant based sources of calcium
Speaker 4: are what we call cruciferous vegetables, things like broccoli, cauliflower,
Speaker 4: things like that. And then one that people often don't
Speaker 4: think about that is a really good source of calcium
Speaker 4: is backchoy. It has a very very available calcium content.
Speaker 4: So you can get as much calcium from one cup
Speaker 4: of cooked box toy as you can from drinking one
Speaker 4: cup of milk.
Speaker 3: Okay, so what about Okay, one of my favorite A
Speaker 3: couple of my favorite vegetables.
Speaker 2: I love.
Speaker 3: Leafy vegetables, but I also love beets and tomatoes.
Speaker 4: Those are good for your joints, they.
Speaker 2: Are Okay, Well, that's fine cover that. I don't know
Speaker 2: why I'm.
Speaker 3: Not Russian or is my family Russian base, but I
Speaker 3: feel that somewhere in my background some one of my
Speaker 3: predecessors ancestors must have eaten a lot of borsh or something.
Speaker 2: Whatever beats are.
Speaker 3: In of diet is so so important as we get older,
Speaker 3: and and it's it's great that folks like yourself are
Speaker 3: willing to talk with us about these issues because a
Speaker 3: lot of us. You know, here's one that I love.
Speaker 3: And you're gonna laugh at me when I say this.
Speaker 3: As a kid, I used to watch Popeye the Sailor, So.
Speaker 2: I actually linach, Spinach? Is that is that a good one?
Speaker 2: Who is that over sold by Popeye the Sailor?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, I have a little bit of disappointing news
Speaker 4: for you. Spinach is really not a good source of
Speaker 4: calcium because it does have a lot of calcium in it,
Speaker 4: it just has some other things in it called oxalates
Speaker 4: that make the calcium a bit hard to absorb. So,
Speaker 4: you know, spinach is good for many things in terms
Speaker 4: of you know, you get some fiber, you get some
Speaker 4: other vitamins and minerals that are are good for you.
Speaker 4: It has some you know, antioxidants in it that are
Speaker 4: anti inflammatory. But in terms of calcium, it's actually not
Speaker 4: a good source of calcium, so that it is a
Speaker 4: little bit over sold.
Speaker 1: In that way.
Speaker 3: I'm one of the few people when they when they
Speaker 3: offer you a vegetable at a restaurant, I'll see it
Speaker 3: can't have a side of spinach, And a lot of
Speaker 3: times the waiters and waitresses look at me like, really, I.
Speaker 4: Also love spin itch, you know, saud tied with garlic
Speaker 4: or whatever, and I eat spine. It's not that I
Speaker 4: don't eat it, it's just that it shouldn't be your
Speaker 4: source of calcium. And if you're trying to utilize something
Speaker 4: else in your diet as a source of calcium, you
Speaker 4: also don't really want to pair it with the spinach
Speaker 4: because it's going to reduce the amount of calcium that
Speaker 4: you absorb.
Speaker 3: You know, there's a lot of thought that has to
Speaker 3: go into our diets if we're really going to do effectively.
Speaker 3: Doctor I really enjoyed our conversation. Go Blue Devils, Doctor
Speaker 3: jos Jocelyn Witstein, thank you so much for joining us.
Speaker 3: Many people who come on our program have books, and
Speaker 3: you have one called The Complete Bone and Joint Health
Speaker 3: Plan Help Prevent and Treat Osteoporosis and Arthritis.
Speaker 2: How can people get that book?
Speaker 4: Yeah, you can find it on Amazon or on Barnes
Speaker 4: and Nobles online anywhere that you purchase your books. It's
Speaker 4: in bookstores and basically it's a guide for you to
Speaker 4: optimize your bone and joint health, including understanding anti inflammatory
Speaker 4: and bone health, diet choice, with recipes and exercises to
Speaker 4: help you optimize all those things.
Speaker 3: Well, we have a good audience, a lot of them
Speaker 3: are very much concerned about aging and being in shape
Speaker 3: throughout their entire life. So I think that probably there's
Speaker 3: a few folks who have written that down and if
Speaker 3: for those who didn't, the Complete Bone en Joint Health
Speaker 3: Plan written by the way with a colleague doctor not
Speaker 3: a doctor, or is he Sydney is a doctor Sydney.
Speaker 4: She's a registered dietician, so I'm an rithspeak surgeon and
Speaker 4: she's a registered dietician.
Speaker 3: Perfect okay. And the book The Complete Bone and Joint
Speaker 3: Health Plan help prevent and treat osteoporosis and arthritis. Thanks
Speaker 3: very much, doctor Winstein with Stein Witstein, I appreciate it
Speaker 3: very much.
Speaker 4: Thank you, Thank you for having me.
Speaker 5: All right, bye, talk again.
Speaker 3: Coming back, We're going to talk with the only female
Speaker 3: sheriff in the commwalth of Massachusetts, Sheriff Donna Buckley, the
Speaker 3: sheriff of Barnstable County. She's the only female, the only
Speaker 3: mother and the only grandmother sheriff. So if you get
Speaker 3: arrested in Barnstable County, you're probably gonna get a chance
Speaker 3: to enjoy the accommodations that Sheriff Buckley provides. We'll talk
Speaker 3: with her about We're gonna highlight females and corrections and
Speaker 3: tackling safety on Cape Cod this summer. Coming back on Nightside.
Speaker 1: You're on Night Side with Dan Ray on w b Z,
Speaker 1: Boston's news radio.
Speaker 3: Well tonight we're highlighting and we have been highing this month. Actually,
Speaker 3: Sheriff's from around the Commonwealth. But we're highlighting females tonight
Speaker 3: in corrections and tackling safety on Cape Cod this summer.
Speaker 3: No one was better qualified for that than Sheriff Donna Buckley.
Speaker 3: She's one of fourteen county sheriffs here in Massachusetts, the
Speaker 3: only female, the only mom, the only grandmother sheriff elected
Speaker 3: in Massachusetts. Welcome Sheriff Buckley. How are you this evening?
Speaker 5: I'm great, Dan, Thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 3: I think everybody knows Barnstable County is down there on
Speaker 3: the Cape, But how many communities do you represent down there?
Speaker 5: We have fifteen towns stretching all the way from woodsholl
Speaker 5: and Falmouth to Provincetown.
Speaker 3: Now you're a lawyer by education Suffolk University Law School.
Speaker 3: How did you end up as a sheriff? I mean
Speaker 3: not too many people wake up Sunday and say I
Speaker 3: want to become a sheriff. I mean is It's a
Speaker 3: great position, don't get me wrong, but it's not one
Speaker 3: that most people gravitate towards. How did you end up,
Speaker 3: and particularly as the first female, a female sheriff in
Speaker 3: the history of Barnstable County. I guess it's three hundred
Speaker 3: and thirty three years old, so it's about time.
Speaker 5: You know. It was not on my bucket list, Dan,
Speaker 5: I you know, I had an opportunity in twenty eighteen
Speaker 5: to go to work at the Sheriff's Office as general counsel,
Speaker 5: and when it came time for the election, I saw
Speaker 5: an opportunity to have a really important in conversation with
Speaker 5: the people in Barnstable County about what direction our Sheriff's
Speaker 5: Office should take. And with the prevalence of addiction and
Speaker 5: mental health challenges in our criminal justice system, I heard
Speaker 5: loud and clear from the voters in Barnstable County that
Speaker 5: they believe what will make them safer is if we
Speaker 5: provide treatment and opportunities for people to move forward with
Speaker 5: support so that they do not become a recidivism statistic.
Speaker 3: No, I think that's praise worthy, laudatory and all of that.
Speaker 3: But the other side of the coin is that you've
Speaker 3: got some you've got some tough cases down there. You've had,
Speaker 3: not necessarily during your term, but there was a police
Speaker 3: officer shot and killed a few years ago as they
Speaker 3: were trying to roast a guy out of an attic.
Speaker 3: I'm sure you're familiar with more familiar with that case
Speaker 3: than I am. But there's just some horrific crimes that
Speaker 3: seem to occur in the Cape of drug and alcohol use. Uh,
Speaker 3: the Cape is not immune from that. We've got a
Speaker 3: lot of bad stuff going on. How do you balance that?
Speaker 3: I mean, obviously you've got you've got to incarcerate people
Speaker 3: and you've got to hope you can rehability rehabilitate them.
Speaker 3: At the same time, not everybody is looking who's incarcerated,
Speaker 3: it looks wants to be necessarily rehabilitated.
Speaker 2: That's going to be a tough situation to find yourself in.
Speaker 5: You know what, You're right on, You're right on there.
Speaker 5: I mean, there are some horrific, horrific crimes on the Cape.
Speaker 5: We are not immune. In fact, sometimes it makes it
Speaker 5: more difficult for us to get the resources that we
Speaker 5: need to address the addiction and mental health, our homelessness, fuel,
Speaker 5: food and security, and transportation challenges that we have on
Speaker 5: the Cape because we are this tourist community. But as
Speaker 5: as sheriff, if we can't that one person on a
Speaker 5: path where they're not going to come back, where they're
Speaker 5: going to be able to move on and have a
Speaker 5: productive life and be a contribute to our community. That's
Speaker 5: a success. And no, not everyone is going to be rehabilitated.
Speaker 5: Not everyone is, but not everyone is the typical criminal
Speaker 5: that you know we used to think about twenty years ago.
Speaker 5: The prevalence of addiction and mental health challenges have changed
Speaker 5: the nature of who ends up in jails.
Speaker 3: How much fanadol are you seeing down the cape?
Speaker 5: Our share? We're seeing our share. You know, it's not
Speaker 5: talked about like it's talked about in urban communities, but
Speaker 5: we're seeing our share. You know, I've heard that in fact,
Speaker 5: we are sort of a prime place to sell to
Speaker 5: sell drugs because of the tourist nature of our community.
Speaker 5: So we are vigilant. Our Sheriff's Office in Barnstable County
Speaker 5: not only does our jail, but we support all fifteen
Speaker 5: local police departments through our Regional Law Enforcement Council to
Speaker 5: make sure that we can do the very best to
Speaker 5: address the drugs issue, to make sure that our community
Speaker 5: is safe.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 3: Later on on this hour, we're going to be talking
Speaker 3: with a national leader in the recovery movement, And like you,
Speaker 3: I stand in admiration for anyone who's able to overcome
Speaker 3: an addiction. I think of my good friend, and I'm
Speaker 3: sure of someone you know very well, a mayor, former
Speaker 3: Boston mayor, Martie Walsh, you know, who beat addiction and
Speaker 3: has gone on to do great service for Boston and
Speaker 3: also for the NHL Players Association.
Speaker 2: So you have to stand in awe of those people.
Speaker 2: I just.
Speaker 3: I just want you to know on behalf of people
Speaker 3: on the Cape that they appreciate whatever you can do
Speaker 3: and whatever your office can do to help keep them
Speaker 3: and their family safe, because unfortunately, so much crime occurs
Speaker 3: even on the Cape.
Speaker 2: I read about it all the time. In a part
Speaker 2: of the state where you would.
Speaker 3: Think of only as a good time is being had
Speaker 3: by all, you know, summertime, spring fall and all of that,
Speaker 3: and even during the winter, but that crime is everywhere.
Speaker 2: So please continue the fight.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Let me you know.
Speaker 5: Sometimes, you know, we have these conversations and there are
Speaker 5: some people who sort of look at this as a
Speaker 5: soft on crime, you know when you talk about rehabilitation
Speaker 5: and treatment. But I come from it to it from
Speaker 5: a different perspective. When you think about someone who is
Speaker 5: dealing with addiction and it is committing crimes to feed
Speaker 5: that addiction, what is more unsafe. Lock that person up,
Speaker 5: do nothing with them, let them do their time, and
Speaker 5: then put them back on the streets in a worse
Speaker 5: position than when they came in. Or to try to
Speaker 5: address the root cause of why they're committing crimes, to
Speaker 5: try to address and put them on a path where
Speaker 5: they can experience the power of recovery if they so choose,
Speaker 5: give them the support. So it's not a soft on crime.
Speaker 5: People need to be held accountable. No one wants to
Speaker 5: be the victim of a crime. And making sure that
Speaker 5: we do the work while people are incarcerated. Statistics show
Speaker 5: that that is more likely to create a safer community
Speaker 5: than simply looking at this person committed a crime, lock
Speaker 5: them up, I don't want to see them again.
Speaker 3: Every person you can take off and convince them to
Speaker 3: get off the crime treadmill is a huge victory.
Speaker 2: It's a huge victory. So my hat's off to you
Speaker 2: for any of that effort.
Speaker 3: I simply am saying that that those of us who
Speaker 3: spend any time in the Cape, we want to spend
Speaker 3: it in a in a community where we can enjoy
Speaker 3: ourselves and enjoy our family safe, safely. And I was
Speaker 3: actually saying thank you for the work that you do,
Speaker 3: and thanks to the police officers who put their lives
Speaker 3: in the line every day for fellow residents and visitors
Speaker 3: to Cape call it. So please take that nothing as
Speaker 3: nothing more than a compliment for the work you do.
Speaker 5: Okay, absolutely, And actually I I I hear you. It's
Speaker 5: it's sometimes you know other people that are listening, because
Speaker 5: I hear it a lot, you know, I hear that
Speaker 5: they look sort of in this this one school or
Speaker 5: the other. And my goal in running for sheriff, primary
Speaker 5: goal is public safety.
Speaker 2: That's it.
Speaker 3: That's that's got to be the primary goal. And if
Speaker 3: and again there's there's a couple of ways to approach it.
Speaker 3: And I congratulate you on your job, and I congratulate
Speaker 3: you on breaking the glass ceiling, if you will, the
Speaker 3: barriers for women and law enforcement. I have a sister
Speaker 3: in law who's a former state police officer, so I
Speaker 3: stand at admirate wow one who works in the interest
Speaker 3: of public safety. Sheriff Buckley. Sheriff Donna Buckley, thanks so
Speaker 3: much for your time. I really do appreciate it. Thank
Speaker 3: you for what you do.
Speaker 5: Thank you very much. Dan.
Speaker 3: You're welcome when we come back We're going to talk
Speaker 3: about a tough subject, the Celtics Knick series with Bob
Speaker 3: Ryan and the Boston Globe. Nobody has watched more playoff
Speaker 3: games than basketball NBA playoff games than Bob Ryan. Will
Speaker 3: find out what Bob thinks about what has gone down
Speaker 3: the last couple of games here in Boston, and they're
Speaker 3: on their way to New York this weekend. Back on
Speaker 3: Night Side, right after the News at the bottom of
Speaker 3: the hour.
Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Boston's News Radio.
Speaker 3: All Right, basketball fans, buckle up Game three three Saturday
Speaker 3: at MSG with us is a guy who, as far
Speaker 3: as I'm concerned, has probably watched more NBA playoff games
Speaker 3: than anyone in history. Bob, who, more than you has
Speaker 3: watched NBA NBA playoff games going back through your career.
Speaker 2: When you think.
Speaker 7: About oh, I'm sure there's some people, but I do
Speaker 7: think locally, I was thinking about this today. I may
Speaker 7: be the only one around who's still active, at least
Speaker 7: mildly active, who goes back to the sixties.
Speaker 2: But no, but the only what I'm.
Speaker 3: Saying, think about it, how many how many teams during
Speaker 3: your career have had anywhere close to the number of
Speaker 3: playoff games that the that the Celtics have played in.
Speaker 2: And I really mean that.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I know the Celtics. Yeah, oh no, I go back.
Speaker 7: My first game I attended was as a student at
Speaker 7: Boston College nineteen sixty six, Game seventh, Red Hourbacks final game,
Speaker 7: and the first game I covered was the game five
Speaker 7: as a playoff Game five in nineteen seventy the Knicks
Speaker 7: and the Lakers. And by the way, today is the
Speaker 7: fifty fifth anniversary of the Knicks winning their first championship
Speaker 7: in nineteen seventy. May eight, nineteen seventy, a Friday night,
Speaker 7: they defeated the Lakers in Game seven in New York.
Speaker 2: So I do go.
Speaker 7: I was there. I covered games five and seven that year.
Speaker 7: I've got some good experience, It's true.
Speaker 3: So okay, so what are you seeing? We must not
Speaker 3: forget that the Celtics have lost two home court games
Speaker 3: by a grand total of four points, three and one.
Speaker 3: Celtics normally don't lose games that close.
Speaker 7: Well, this group has certainly earned our faith and respect,
Speaker 7: and it's not what people were expecting. This is definitely
Speaker 7: the Knicks didn't get the script apparently that they were
Speaker 7: issued in and they were in proversational theater now. But anyway,
Speaker 7: the Celtics, this is surprising, of course the people. But
Speaker 7: I think there's so there's a few things on one
Speaker 7: is this whole issue number one topic A. Are the
Speaker 7: Celtics two relentlessly dependent on the three point shot? And
Speaker 7: if so, when are they going to start having a
Speaker 7: Plan B. That's the number one topic that people are
Speaker 7: batting around with regard to this state of affairs that
Speaker 7: they find themselves in. They have taken one hundred three
Speaker 7: point shots in the last two games. It had made
Speaker 7: twenty five of them. That's a woeful percentage and it's
Speaker 7: far below their norm. So is there going to be
Speaker 7: some evening out theory now when they get to New
Speaker 7: York on the Saturday afternoon till Mozilla appears to feel
Speaker 7: that way. Yesterday morning, on the morning of Game two,
Speaker 7: I caught the end of an interview, well not the
Speaker 7: whole thing, but at the end of an interview and
Speaker 7: when he was giving an answer, and the question had
Speaker 7: to have been about this idea of what you need
Speaker 7: to go to Plan B more often, and he said,
Speaker 7: we are getting good looks and we usually make them,
Speaker 7: and he's confident that they will make them. Well that night.
Speaker 7: Last night they did not make them. And now two
Speaker 7: games in a row in which they did not make them,
Speaker 7: they weren't normal cells. Well, it's just correctible. Yes, I'll
Speaker 7: tell you what I'm more concerned about. I'm more concerned
Speaker 7: about health. I want to know what's going on with
Speaker 7: Christaps Persingis was my next question, by the way, Yeah, no,
Speaker 7: In general terms, health is the most important factor as
Speaker 7: you enter the playoffs. I would wouldn't mind playing seven
Speaker 7: road games if you told me my team is healthy
Speaker 7: and my key players are all ready to go. Well,
Speaker 7: that's not the case. Now we know that for Zingis
Speaker 7: has been ill and he's still not recovered. He said
Speaker 7: that publicly. We know that Brown has been dealing with
Speaker 7: a knee. We suspect strongly that Tatum has a risk
Speaker 7: issue that that he's been dealing with. And then you know,
Speaker 7: is not me mentioning at the present time. And we
Speaker 7: also know that Drew Holiday missed games at the end
Speaker 7: of the in the last series, and that he's not
Speaker 7: one hundred percent.
Speaker 2: Either and Houses out too right.
Speaker 7: And Howser's out completely, and he said, you know he's
Speaker 7: in the mix. He's an important three point shooter. He's
Speaker 7: had a good year for them. He's he's he's matured,
Speaker 7: he's gotten, and he's he's a piece of the puzzle.
Speaker 7: So well, that's all going on, and that's why I
Speaker 7: have personally lowered my level of expectation. I can live
Speaker 7: with that. I understand that. To me. Historically, Dan, that
Speaker 7: is the number one variable in playoffs historically is health
Speaker 7: and and you've got to have it. You go back
Speaker 7: to nineteen fifty eight, so they were one of the
Speaker 7: two years that Bill Russell didn't win. You know why
Speaker 7: they didn't win that year when they were clearly the
Speaker 7: better team. He was hurt and I actually missed the
Speaker 7: game or two in that finals and was never himself.
Speaker 7: So it's it's a it's a constant. It never goes away.
Speaker 7: Look right now with the Cleveland Cavaliers, who by the way,
Speaker 7: along with the Celtics, have lost their first two games
Speaker 7: at home. What a game two against Indiana, they were
Speaker 7: missing three of their first six players. So that that's
Speaker 7: that's what. That just tells you what you need to know.
Speaker 3: Okay, So here's my here's my question going into New York.
Speaker 3: In football, we always think that the home team the
Speaker 3: home field advantage in football. Most people think of it
Speaker 3: as a six point advantage. Then you know if it's
Speaker 3: if it's a six point spread, you say, well, through
Speaker 3: pretty even teams and the home team's a six point
Speaker 3: favorite because they had the home team advantage. Home field
Speaker 3: advantage football is different than basketball. Is there a home
Speaker 3: court advantage in basketball? In your opinion?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 7: There was the times. I think there's no question there
Speaker 7: was a certain left. For example, the nineteen eighty five
Speaker 7: eighty six Celtics were forty and one at home, thirty
Speaker 7: seven of them in the Garden and three of them
Speaker 7: at Hartford US one game all year at home. Now
Speaker 7: this team is a very different beast. This team played
Speaker 7: better statistically and performing better on the road than it
Speaker 7: did at home. This team established one of the great
Speaker 7: road records in the history of the NBA, thirty three
Speaker 7: and eight on the road and the best in the
Speaker 7: franchise history. And now they're going to New York. So
Speaker 7: how much of this is going to translate into playoffs?
Speaker 7: Do you have to remember? Players for different matter, just
Speaker 7: different dynamics completely, But they have that to rely on.
Speaker 2: I guess you know how healthy are the knick spot.
Speaker 7: They are they go. They have one guy that they
Speaker 7: didn't have in the last series, Mitchell Robinson, their backup center,
Speaker 7: who's a no offensive threat except for the lob but
Speaker 7: he's a very good defender and it's a good shot blocker,
Speaker 7: and they did not have him, but they have him now.
Speaker 7: They have him now. You know, he's the terrible free
Speaker 7: throw shooter. And the Celtics played hacker Mitchell to put
Speaker 7: him on the line in the first game, and he
Speaker 7: went three for ten from the line in the second game.
Speaker 7: And that's a strategy that I think they're a little
Speaker 7: too reliant on, quite obsessed with, I think. But anyway,
Speaker 7: he's their seventh most important player, but their first six
Speaker 7: are all healthy and ready to go.
Speaker 3: Well, we'll keep our fingers crossed as to what's going
Speaker 3: to happen on Saturday afternoon. A lot of eyes from
Speaker 3: New England will be on it. This is the most
Speaker 3: win game. I don't think they can get back from
Speaker 3: a three to zero.
Speaker 7: Deficode Well, no one has ever done it in basketball.
Speaker 7: Teams have come back from three to zero to go
Speaker 7: three to three, but no one's finished job. Celtics, you know,
Speaker 7: against Miami almost they're one one of the teams that
Speaker 7: came back from three. Oh, but you know they haven't
Speaker 7: gone all the way. No, it's it's I think it's
Speaker 7: safe to say it's the closest thing to a must
Speaker 7: capital M game that that they're going to have. If
Speaker 7: they don't pull it out, it's going to be very dire.
Speaker 7: Then they would really have to make history becoming the
Speaker 7: first team in the NBA, uh to ever come back
Speaker 7: from It's been done in hockey, but it has never
Speaker 7: been done in basketball.
Speaker 2: What's your latest book?
Speaker 7: I'm working on a sequel with my friend and colleague
Speaker 7: and Bill Chuck, on our book that we did on
Speaker 7: my forty four years of score books. You know, I
Speaker 7: do score every game I go to. That's a fact.
Speaker 7: And and that's called in scoring position. Right, Yes, there's
Speaker 7: a sequel. Yeah, oh yeah, there's a baseball book I'm
Speaker 7: and and so that's what we're working on.
Speaker 2: That book is so is the latest the one that's
Speaker 2: the score book? That is? Is that book? Hope? When
Speaker 2: you talk about a sequel, obviously the.
Speaker 7: First oh yeah, came out two years ago and uh,
Speaker 7: and it's it's out there and you know, people can
Speaker 7: find it in Amazon. I'm sure, and uh, we had
Speaker 7: a lot of fun with that book. And it's it's
Speaker 7: it's it's you know, the premise very is that hidden
Speaker 7: in all all every box score and many box scores
Speaker 7: or trivial pursuit and things of interest, historical items, oddities
Speaker 7: of all sorts of kind. And and the way it
Speaker 7: works is that at the top of each chapter, each
Speaker 7: game that's done is the representation of the scorebook page
Speaker 7: from my book that that and then what that's what
Speaker 7: we're focusing on. I then write about what it's all about,
Speaker 7: what what is this? And then Bill, who's a historian
Speaker 7: and a researcher and brilliant uh fleshes out this with
Speaker 7: tidbits about the people that you might not have known
Speaker 7: or or or things that I didn't even see. And
Speaker 7: uh and he's an excellent writer, and we we we've
Speaker 7: formed a good partnership. And there's one hundred and forty
Speaker 7: games accounted for this in my book, our book in
Speaker 7: scoring position that go from the opening day of nineteen
Speaker 7: seventy seven season, the year I covered the Celtics Red
Speaker 7: Sox full time, right up to the two years ago games.
Speaker 7: And I do still seriously score every game at every
Speaker 7: level did I go to?
Speaker 3: That's great in scoring position by Bob Ryan and you
Speaker 3: and your co author again is who Bill Chuck?
Speaker 7: Mister Bill Chuck, and he's an amazing researcher.
Speaker 3: And when you have the sequel out, I would love
Speaker 3: to have you come back on and let's let's spend
Speaker 3: behind him.
Speaker 7: Be very happy to I really would.
Speaker 2: Love to do that.
Speaker 3: I know we missed the first one, but I want
Speaker 3: to make a I want to make a make.
Speaker 2: Good of this one.
Speaker 7: Okay, you got it.
Speaker 2: Thanks Bob, Talk to you soon. So long. Got back
Speaker 2: great Bob Ryan at the Boston Globe. We'll be back
Speaker 2: on night Side and we'll finish up with a.
Speaker 3: Gentleman who's a national leader in the recovery movement.
Speaker 2: This will be inspirational. Back on Nightside after this.
Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Ray on Boston's news radio.
Speaker 3: Wrap it up to Night's eight o'clock hour with Adam
Speaker 3: Vibe Dunton. He is a national leader in the recovery program. Adam,
Speaker 3: first of all, welcome to night Side and congratulations. You're
Speaker 3: an overdose survivor and founder of Recovered on Purpose and
Speaker 3: Behavioral Health Partners. Tell us about your your experience.
Speaker 6: Yes, sir, thanks so much for having me welcome. Yeah,
Speaker 6: seven and a half years ago, I was homeless and
Speaker 6: a drug addict. I was one hundred and forty eight
Speaker 6: pounds kicked out of a homeless shelter, so I was
Speaker 6: super homeless. And now I'm two twenty but I work out,
Speaker 6: so it's not all tubby.
Speaker 2: But good, Where were you homeless? If I could ask, Adam,
Speaker 2: what part.
Speaker 6: Of the country Billings, Montana in the world.
Speaker 2: It's a tough place to be homeless, my man.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, it was me and about nine other people
Speaker 6: that were on the streets, living in an abandoned house
Speaker 6: that didn't have electricity or running water, a trash can.
Speaker 2: What time of the year winter? Oh yeah, how did
Speaker 2: you real? Quickly?
Speaker 3: How did you end up in that state of despair?
Speaker 3: If I could ask? And then I want to talk
Speaker 3: more about your recovery. But how does someone get that
Speaker 3: down and out?
Speaker 5: Well?
Speaker 6: On September twenty eight, two thousand and eight, I've been
Speaker 6: out drinking and partying like most nights in my freshman
Speaker 6: year of college, and I woke up to my phone
Speaker 6: ringing and vibrating down by my leg at four forty
Speaker 6: seven am. It was my best friend Chucker calling me,
Speaker 6: and I remember having the conscious choice that I could
Speaker 6: answer like I always did, like Hey, what's up, Chuck?
Speaker 6: Or I could answer the way I was feeling with
Speaker 6: a hello, am I still drunk? In state? I chose
Speaker 6: the latter, and he answered, Hey, what's up? Why are
Speaker 6: you calling me this late? I was just calling to
Speaker 6: say Hi, don't call me this late again. And I
Speaker 6: hung out fun him and he shot himself. And for
Speaker 6: nearly ten years, I was unable to share that phone
Speaker 6: call with anyone, and I was bottling it down deeper
Speaker 6: and deeper with drugs and alcohol, and that that was
Speaker 6: fueled my addiction. Before that, I was an all state
Speaker 6: football player. I was a captain of our defense at
Speaker 6: Columbine High School my senior year when we won state championship.
Speaker 2: Captain high school in Colorado.
Speaker 6: Yes, sir, Wow were you there?
Speaker 2: If you would have been there after the shooting I saw,
Speaker 2: or maybe before it?
Speaker 5: Yep.
Speaker 6: I was actually the first class that came in when
Speaker 6: the freshmen that were there had graduated, So I was
Speaker 6: the first class that no one was there.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 3: Okay, so seven and a half years there must have
Speaker 3: been a moment in time where you said enough of
Speaker 3: this or something must have Who turned what turned your
Speaker 3: life around?
Speaker 6: You know, I had so many of those moments. And
Speaker 6: for anyone out there that's struggling and listening to this
Speaker 6: right now, I know where you're at where you have
Speaker 6: those moments where you were you are done with it,
Speaker 6: you want to stop, and you just can't. And you know,
Speaker 6: it happened so many times to me. And what what
Speaker 6: really turned the tide for me was when I stopped
Speaker 6: trying to hold onto my plans so tightly. Because I
Speaker 6: would schedule the meetings I was going to. I would
Speaker 6: schedule the Bible study and the church and and the
Speaker 6: mentors and all this stuff that were going to help
Speaker 6: me get clean, and it was so tightly in my
Speaker 6: grasp that I was unable to listen. I was unable
Speaker 6: to hear the path that was going to take me.
Speaker 6: And I had some pretty profound experiences with God. I
Speaker 6: met Jesus face to face when I was sitting at
Speaker 6: ihop having breakfast, and you know, I believe that you're
Speaker 6: able to get you know, freed and cured and healed
Speaker 6: right away. But that didn't happen for me.
Speaker 2: For me was I'm I'm you know, a I happen
Speaker 2: to be Catholic.
Speaker 3: I was thrilled today to see an American pope picked
Speaker 3: an American pict then, but I am, I mean, im
Speaker 3: perfect Catholic. Okay, I've never had what you call a
Speaker 3: face to face meeting with Jesus. I'm interested when you
Speaker 3: say that. Were you sitting there and you thought, oh,
Speaker 3: you felt you were talking to or he was talking
Speaker 3: to you?
Speaker 6: Well, I went into it was like a trance. I
Speaker 6: got this this text message on my phone and it
Speaker 6: was from my dope dealer and he offered me a
Speaker 6: free twenty. I had been cleaned for five days and
Speaker 6: I was trying so hard, and when I got that
Speaker 6: text message, I felt like something like took over my body.
Speaker 6: And I texted him back and said it was in
Speaker 6: like King James, who I was like, ye, shall not
Speaker 6: text me again. Thou hast texted me for the last time.
Speaker 6: And then when the text message finished, I was reading
Speaker 6: it and I showed it to my friend that was
Speaker 6: sitting across me. I was like, dude, I didn't write that,
Speaker 6: and then I pushed send. I put it in my
Speaker 6: pocket and I looked back up and Jesus is sitting
Speaker 6: across from me, the entire restaurant. I completely disappeared. There
Speaker 6: was a glow coming from behind him. He was smiling,
Speaker 6: and I immediately knew who it was, immediately knew what
Speaker 6: was happening. Felt with my face to the table, put
Speaker 6: my hand up and I said, thank you God, Thank
Speaker 6: you God. And I came back up. He was on
Speaker 6: and I was back in the restaurant, and I haven't
Speaker 6: used since.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 6: And these experiences actually aren't that rare. I was just
Speaker 6: talking to somebody about this yesterday. But these experiences are
Speaker 6: stigmatized a lot. These have been going on since before
Speaker 6: the Big Book, since before the twelve step program.
Speaker 2: Not going to be stigmatized by me. I want you
Speaker 2: to know, Adam, Okay, yeah, amen.
Speaker 3: So I thank you for having the courage to express that.
Speaker 3: Thank you for having the coverage to share that. How
Speaker 3: can folks either get in touch with you or get
Speaker 3: in touch with the programs that you're involved with. You
Speaker 3: have the founder that Recovered on Purpose program and the
Speaker 3: behavioral health partners. What's the best way people could reach out?
Speaker 6: Yeah, Recovered on Purpose dot org. I have a lot
Speaker 6: of free resources for people in recovery or trying to
Speaker 6: get in recovery, a fifty state resource guide if you
Speaker 6: have no insurance or are underinsured. And then Behavioral Health
Speaker 6: Partners we help people that want to open treatment centers.
Speaker 6: We're able to get your licensed, accredited, program development and
Speaker 6: then marketing as well.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 3: Adam Musalik an incredible individual. You've been You've been to
Speaker 3: hell and back. I pray that you stay as strong
Speaker 3: and as safe as you are, and you are doing
Speaker 3: God's work in my opinion, and I just want to
Speaker 3: say thank you, sir. I've got a lot of who
Speaker 3: have walked the same path. They have been down and
Speaker 3: out and they able to get up and get out
Speaker 3: of it. And I can't tell you how much I
Speaker 3: admire those people. And one person is a pall of
Speaker 3: mine who used to be the Mayor of Boston. He's
Speaker 3: now the head of the NHL Players Association for my
Speaker 3: boss to Mayor mort So we got there's a lot
Speaker 3: of people who have waked your path, and you are
Speaker 3: the real deal. I can figure it out pretty easily,
Speaker 3: and I just want to say thank you for for
Speaker 3: what you've experienced and how you pull yourself out of it,
Speaker 3: and anytime we can help you let us know.
Speaker 6: Okay, I really appreciate that. Anyone listening, if you're struggling,
Speaker 6: you're the next one.
Speaker 3: Great message, Adam, Vibe Gunton, Adam, thank you so much.
Speaker 3: We'll talk again. Okay, maybe I'll have you on some
Speaker 3: night for an hour and we'll take fun. I may
Speaker 3: we may well do that. Okay, thank you so.
Speaker 2: Much, Adam, congratulating so much. Good night. Okay.
Speaker 3: When we get back, we're going to talk about a
Speaker 3: big moment, those of you who were lucky enough today
Speaker 3: to see the white smoke come out of the chimney
Speaker 3: and then see an American come out onto the balcony
Speaker 3: as the first American pope. It was a moment in time.
Speaker 3: I've watched other popes emerge, but this is one that
Speaker 3: connected with me as an American and as a Catholic,
Speaker 3: but as an American. And we will be talking with
Speaker 3: some experts, but most importantly I want to talk with you.
Speaker 3: We'll be back on Night's side right after the nine
Speaker 3: o'clock news