WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:04.400 The more I investigated this phenomenon, including encounters and all that, 2 00:00:04.559 --> 00:00:09.000 I began to realize that they were not a reclusive, quiet, 3 00:00:09.160 --> 00:00:11.080 dumb ape in the woods. You know, I've had some 4 00:00:11.160 --> 00:00:14.400 interesting encounters, and I've recorded some of them. What I 5 00:00:14.519 --> 00:00:19.320 found was mind blowing, and I've been able to successfully 6 00:00:19.600 --> 00:00:23.960 get very interesting audios over the past seven and a 7 00:00:23.960 --> 00:00:27.839 half years just simply by leaving recorders at the base 8 00:00:27.879 --> 00:00:31.280 of these structures. Whatever I'm recording, I believe them to 9 00:00:31.359 --> 00:00:34.240 be our Harry cousins, but I also believe I've recorded 10 00:00:34.320 --> 00:00:35.439 some other beings. 11 00:01:08.040 --> 00:01:12.359 I'd like to welcome James Lady to Bigfoot Crossroads podcast. 12 00:01:13.480 --> 00:01:20.000 James is the mastermind behind the Michigan Aboriginal Project. I 13 00:01:20.159 --> 00:01:22.280 like that name, James. How did you come up with that? 14 00:01:23.439 --> 00:01:28.680 Thank you. Well. The more I investigated this phenomenon, including 15 00:01:29.000 --> 00:01:34.480 encounters and all that, I began to realize that they 16 00:01:34.480 --> 00:01:39.000 were not you know, a reclusive, you know, quiet dumb 17 00:01:39.040 --> 00:01:43.200 ape in the woods that they actually had. You know, 18 00:01:43.239 --> 00:01:46.840 I've had some interesting encounters and I've recorded some of them. 19 00:01:47.439 --> 00:01:52.120 And the more I studied the audio from these encounters. 20 00:01:53.159 --> 00:01:56.400 Way back when once upon a time I was encouraged 21 00:01:56.719 --> 00:02:01.120 to do a recording project which I resisted, but I 22 00:02:01.159 --> 00:02:05.079 was somewhat cajoled into it, thankfully, And I've been doing 23 00:02:05.079 --> 00:02:08.960 this for over and a half years. I started. Structures 24 00:02:09.039 --> 00:02:10.240 used to be my thing. I used to go out 25 00:02:10.240 --> 00:02:12.520 in the woods and just find structures. And I'm not 26 00:02:12.560 --> 00:02:18.719 talking about the the random weather insults and things that 27 00:02:18.800 --> 00:02:22.199 you try to figure out scratch your noggin about. I'm 28 00:02:22.199 --> 00:02:27.159 talking about actual like tps, wigwams and lean tos. And 29 00:02:27.240 --> 00:02:30.879 I later found that you can find these around any 30 00:02:31.039 --> 00:02:35.919 major city, actually along any watershed and that goes up 31 00:02:35.960 --> 00:02:42.639 into the feeder streams and even drainage drainage ditches. And 32 00:02:43.960 --> 00:02:47.319 I just started laboring quarters and at these actual structures. 33 00:02:48.000 --> 00:02:53.840 What I found was mind blowing. And I've been able 34 00:02:53.879 --> 00:02:59.439 to successfully get very interesting audios over the past seven 35 00:03:00.039 --> 00:03:05.400 half years just simply by leaving recorders at the base 36 00:03:05.439 --> 00:03:09.639 of these structures. And I can now honestly say that 37 00:03:10.000 --> 00:03:13.439 whatever I'm recording, I believe them to be our Harry cousins. 38 00:03:14.039 --> 00:03:18.639 But I also believe I've recorded some other beings which 39 00:03:19.319 --> 00:03:25.560 you know, I don't know. I've recorded different vocal signatures, 40 00:03:25.919 --> 00:03:33.240 different vocal modalities. I've recorded speech, chanting, believing or not singing. 41 00:03:34.639 --> 00:03:38.120 And all of this happens in the woodlands of Michigan. 42 00:03:38.280 --> 00:03:41.120 And I have to say even Ohio. I grew up 43 00:03:41.159 --> 00:03:43.919 there in southern Ohio, and I've I've found some structures 44 00:03:43.919 --> 00:03:47.039 down there that I've bugged, and I got the verifying 45 00:03:47.120 --> 00:03:49.879 vocal elements that I that I look for. And when 46 00:03:49.879 --> 00:03:53.360 I say that, the verified vocal elements to me confirmed 47 00:03:53.360 --> 00:03:56.319 the presence of some sort of crypti being around these structures. 48 00:03:57.800 --> 00:04:01.400 And you know, the last one I saw and recorded 49 00:04:01.479 --> 00:04:03.360 at the same time, It was about four week tall. 50 00:04:03.719 --> 00:04:05.919 It was not around one of those structures. It was 51 00:04:06.520 --> 00:04:11.520 right outside my tent and late October twenty twenty two. 52 00:04:11.759 --> 00:04:14.400 It was October twenty fourth, Monday morning, it was raining, 53 00:04:15.240 --> 00:04:17.519 and this thing vocalized at me. I think I may 54 00:04:17.560 --> 00:04:21.160 have sent you a clip of that. And so when 55 00:04:21.160 --> 00:04:25.279 I be forewarned anybody interested in doing anything like I'm doing, 56 00:04:25.759 --> 00:04:28.439 you are going to get You're going to be visited 57 00:04:29.199 --> 00:04:33.720 you start poking around their areas. They know this, and 58 00:04:33.759 --> 00:04:37.680 I would encourage everybody to keep the cool and maintain 59 00:04:37.720 --> 00:04:42.040 a respectful disposition and demeanor while while you're doing all 60 00:04:42.040 --> 00:04:45.720 this kind of thing. My thing right now is learning 61 00:04:45.759 --> 00:04:51.160 about this phenomenon and these beings through passive audio observation. 62 00:04:53.279 --> 00:04:55.319 The more I learn about these beings where I realize 63 00:04:55.319 --> 00:04:58.079 they are some form of a people. They're not human 64 00:04:58.439 --> 00:05:03.560 like us at all, you know. And it's the whole 65 00:05:03.560 --> 00:05:08.240 thing I tell you. I wonder I question evolution. I 66 00:05:08.480 --> 00:05:11.920 actually don't believe evolution is a thing anymore, except in 67 00:05:12.040 --> 00:05:15.600 things like thought or understanding of a phenomenon like like 68 00:05:15.680 --> 00:05:17.519 I have developed over the years because I did. I 69 00:05:17.800 --> 00:05:20.319 thought the North American wood a conservancy. I thought they 70 00:05:20.360 --> 00:05:23.360 had it nailed. You know, this is an eighth inclusive 71 00:05:23.480 --> 00:05:25.560 that kind of thing, and I bought in for for 72 00:05:25.600 --> 00:05:32.879 a little while. The gigantith gigantipithecus. Uh explanation or speculation. 73 00:05:34.639 --> 00:05:38.040 But there are numerous beings. I mean, they're everywhere. I 74 00:05:38.040 --> 00:05:41.439 can go an any suburb, around any watershed around Detroit 75 00:05:42.240 --> 00:05:47.839 find these structures and get audible vocalizations from things that 76 00:05:48.199 --> 00:05:50.920 really kind of sound otherworldly. And that's where I am 77 00:05:51.000 --> 00:05:53.040 right now. What do I do with this? This is 78 00:05:53.160 --> 00:05:57.600 something beyond my ability to fully explain. I have my ideas. 79 00:05:59.199 --> 00:06:02.279 I'm frimally Ferson. I've been studying the Bible now for 80 00:06:02.800 --> 00:06:05.680 collectively in three different Bible studies for over well over 81 00:06:05.759 --> 00:06:10.319 twenty years, and I'm no expert. I find a Bible 82 00:06:10.439 --> 00:06:15.240 fascinating and I believe them to be part of what 83 00:06:15.879 --> 00:06:20.160 is considered a spiritual or an unseen realm that is 84 00:06:20.160 --> 00:06:25.199 alive and well along our watersheds in the woodlands. So that, 85 00:06:25.399 --> 00:06:29.160 in essence, is what the Michigan Aboriginal Project is about. 86 00:06:29.600 --> 00:06:31.759 It's just about me having fun in the woods, being 87 00:06:31.759 --> 00:06:34.000 a kid in the woods, and all in all, it's 88 00:06:34.040 --> 00:06:37.800 just it's like it's just a hobby mont right, But it's. 89 00:06:37.600 --> 00:06:39.279 Fossen an obsession. 90 00:06:39.879 --> 00:06:42.519 It is an obsession. Yeah, I was explained. When I 91 00:06:42.560 --> 00:06:45.079 was engaged with my wife, she almost left me. I 92 00:06:45.160 --> 00:06:48.639 was so obsessed and enthusiastic. And when you have this 93 00:06:48.720 --> 00:06:52.160 epiphany that there's an ancient race of giants living on 94 00:06:52.199 --> 00:06:57.879 the outskirts of our actual carbon footprint, it's it's you know, 95 00:06:58.040 --> 00:07:01.720 you can't deny what you know, what you've seen, experienced 96 00:07:01.720 --> 00:07:05.120 and learned. And I can't deny what I've heard. And 97 00:07:05.160 --> 00:07:10.120 I've heard things that are bloody downright bass demonic sounding, 98 00:07:10.360 --> 00:07:15.240 and other things this sound angelic. So I believe there 99 00:07:15.279 --> 00:07:19.920 are many many beings in this unseen realm in this 100 00:07:20.000 --> 00:07:23.600 other dimension, if you will, or maybe even another heaven 101 00:07:23.759 --> 00:07:27.720 from a biblical perspective. I don't know, but they're out there, 102 00:07:27.879 --> 00:07:30.759 and I don't know if I sent you a clip 103 00:07:30.839 --> 00:07:35.680 of the clip. If not, I can do it after 104 00:07:35.879 --> 00:07:39.399 we chat here. But it was fall of last year, 105 00:07:39.560 --> 00:07:43.639 fall I had my last visitation outside my tent and 106 00:07:44.000 --> 00:07:46.079 a subject one subject you can hear clearest day. It 107 00:07:46.120 --> 00:07:50.279 says I sent that to a friend of mine whose 108 00:07:50.319 --> 00:07:56.040 first nations or Jibwe, and he he says he believed 109 00:07:56.079 --> 00:08:00.079 he was securing his ancestors speak and that the O 110 00:08:00.199 --> 00:08:05.439 Jesua expression was something of a positive note. So which 111 00:08:05.439 --> 00:08:09.399 I I. That's nice to hear, because that little one 112 00:08:09.399 --> 00:08:12.160 that woke me up that one day, that one morning 113 00:08:12.879 --> 00:08:17.199 was not nice at all. And I can't it. You know, 114 00:08:17.240 --> 00:08:20.920 I can pronounce ojisia, but what it uttered was it 115 00:08:20.959 --> 00:08:28.439 was gravelly, gurgly enunciation, which I initially thought was a hiss. Matthew. 116 00:08:28.480 --> 00:08:30.079 I thought I was in one of the deepest sleeps 117 00:08:30.079 --> 00:08:32.720 I'd had in three nights, and I was awakening pulled 118 00:08:32.799 --> 00:08:36.919 from that deep sleep six am that October twenty fourth morning. 119 00:08:38.240 --> 00:08:40.279 It was crazy. It was crazy. I remember what I 120 00:08:40.320 --> 00:08:42.000 was dreaming and what he pulled me out of and 121 00:08:42.799 --> 00:08:44.639 I rolled off and I looked up at this thing, 122 00:08:44.720 --> 00:08:48.279 and I said hey. And as I looked up, it 123 00:08:48.320 --> 00:08:54.039 had just stepped back from the vocalism from waking me up, 124 00:08:55.080 --> 00:08:58.320 and it assumed like a really tight post stamp, like 125 00:08:58.320 --> 00:09:03.440 a soldier or sailor's ants. And in a half second, yeah, 126 00:09:03.440 --> 00:09:05.720 I have to assess the situation. I knew it wasn't 127 00:09:05.759 --> 00:09:07.240 a deer. I knew it wasn't a corugar, which I 128 00:09:07.240 --> 00:09:13.559 thought it was initially. And I said hey, and it flinched. 129 00:09:14.279 --> 00:09:17.759 Then I extended my right arm and get out of here. 130 00:09:17.879 --> 00:09:21.519 Before I was fully extended, it was gone, and I 131 00:09:21.559 --> 00:09:24.080 may have heard one steps as it left. It was. 132 00:09:24.159 --> 00:09:28.759 It was super fast, super quiet, except what I vocalized, 133 00:09:28.799 --> 00:09:34.240 of course, And if everybody wants to hear that vocalization, 134 00:09:34.320 --> 00:09:38.879 I published that under a video called A very Rude Awakening. 135 00:09:40.159 --> 00:09:41.120 Too long to figure out? 136 00:09:41.159 --> 00:09:41.679 Why? 137 00:09:42.200 --> 00:09:42.840 Yeah? Right? 138 00:09:44.279 --> 00:09:48.080 Were you camping within proximity to the shelters at that time? 139 00:09:49.840 --> 00:09:52.120 No, I was some distance away. Now, I have found 140 00:09:52.960 --> 00:09:56.519 interesting stick manipulations outside the camp, but there are no 141 00:09:56.600 --> 00:10:00.759 structures like that outside the camp crowd that I've ever 142 00:10:00.799 --> 00:10:04.799 found there's a mess of of words, and there was 143 00:10:04.879 --> 00:10:07.600 there was a very interesting connection of a There was 144 00:10:07.639 --> 00:10:12.759 a bent tree fastened to a stick that was driven 145 00:10:12.799 --> 00:10:15.240 into the ground and it was fastened. The tree and 146 00:10:15.279 --> 00:10:19.759 the stick was fashioned were fastened together by a piece 147 00:10:19.759 --> 00:10:24.240 of bark which seemed which looked like it had been manipulated. 148 00:10:25.600 --> 00:10:29.200 That's one of those little more esoteric structures, but it 149 00:10:29.240 --> 00:10:32.440 had all the elements. I look forward to consider it 150 00:10:32.480 --> 00:10:35.879 one of theirs. So what I do is just drive 151 00:10:35.879 --> 00:10:38.279 around the valleys in northern Michigan. I look for these 152 00:10:38.279 --> 00:10:41.279 structures and I leave the quarters see what I get. 153 00:10:42.279 --> 00:10:45.799 How did you start out in pursuit of this mystery 154 00:10:45.799 --> 00:10:47.159 to begin with? What happened? 155 00:10:47.519 --> 00:10:55.919 I'm covering, uh, starving artist. I'm still starving, But you 156 00:10:55.960 --> 00:10:58.720 know I was. I was into the artistic photography. I think, yeah, 157 00:10:59.559 --> 00:11:02.200 I just want to see one, Matt. I just wanted 158 00:11:02.200 --> 00:11:04.039 to see one. That's how I got started. So I 159 00:11:04.120 --> 00:11:07.120 was actually planning a camping trip up to the Bounty Waters, 160 00:11:07.279 --> 00:11:10.720 camping and fish and it was really the first time 161 00:11:10.759 --> 00:11:15.159 I had spent any significant time on YouTube, and I 162 00:11:15.200 --> 00:11:18.759 wanted to know, you know, our campsite the lakes. We 163 00:11:18.759 --> 00:11:22.000 were going to and what sort of protagees we were 164 00:11:22.000 --> 00:11:25.879 going to endure. Found all of that, much to my satisfaction, 165 00:11:26.039 --> 00:11:27.720 and I took about two and a half days, and 166 00:11:28.200 --> 00:11:32.399 during that time a suggested video came up of Bigfoot, 167 00:11:32.440 --> 00:11:35.960 and I didn't click on them immediately. I was waiting 168 00:11:36.000 --> 00:11:38.519 until I got everything I wanted to get off of YouTube, 169 00:11:39.080 --> 00:11:42.879 and then I gave into the temptation because as a kid, 170 00:11:42.919 --> 00:11:46.720 I always thought if these beans were real, I had 171 00:11:46.759 --> 00:11:50.879 to see one. I'm naturally curious, I'm wired that way, 172 00:11:52.240 --> 00:11:57.559 and I'm curious your fault and I figured out one 173 00:11:57.559 --> 00:12:00.559 of these beans commune, and it's it is around these 174 00:12:00.960 --> 00:12:09.440 areas where I find either solo standing or many of 175 00:12:09.519 --> 00:12:15.559 these structures, very varied gps, wrigwams and link to that 176 00:12:16.519 --> 00:12:19.639 self was fun. Finding them is still fun. I still 177 00:12:19.679 --> 00:12:22.879 do do that, but I have some regular routine spots 178 00:12:22.919 --> 00:12:26.240 up that I lead recorders, and I invariably get something 179 00:12:26.639 --> 00:12:32.320 worth writing home about recorded about I sent I think 180 00:12:32.360 --> 00:12:37.039 about a fifty two second clip. It's really weird and 181 00:12:37.159 --> 00:12:41.320 ethereal sort of vocalizations. You have a what it starts off? 182 00:12:41.360 --> 00:12:45.200 What's set the recorder off? In this instance, that was 183 00:12:45.600 --> 00:12:48.840 recording on the voice activated mode, and there was like 184 00:12:48.879 --> 00:12:53.720 a knock, which I hadn't convinced of vocals that established 185 00:12:53.799 --> 00:12:56.639 got the recorder running. Then you here a little snip, 186 00:12:56.799 --> 00:13:00.679 and then like a call, a distant call, and then 187 00:13:00.840 --> 00:13:06.840 something it's a response that's kind of like a siren sound, 188 00:13:07.000 --> 00:13:13.159 like you know of ancient war and mythology and and 189 00:13:13.240 --> 00:13:15.360 all sorts of other stuff. And in that you have 190 00:13:15.440 --> 00:13:18.960 the knock, you have whistles, you have weird calls, you 191 00:13:19.080 --> 00:13:22.279 have conventional speech as you and I are engaged in now, 192 00:13:23.440 --> 00:13:27.559 and mixed in with other various vocal modalities. But there 193 00:13:27.559 --> 00:13:30.679 are multiple subjects you can tell throughout the valley, and 194 00:13:31.039 --> 00:13:34.720 if you listen closely, you can hear subjects close in 195 00:13:34.799 --> 00:13:37.480 the foreground of the audio, and you can hear those 196 00:13:37.519 --> 00:13:41.399 in the distance. I know I sent you that clip, 197 00:13:41.399 --> 00:13:43.559 and I sent you another one. I think that I 198 00:13:43.720 --> 00:13:47.720 recorded from the same location two years apart, and has 199 00:13:47.799 --> 00:13:52.279 all those elements in as well conventional speech, the clicking, 200 00:13:52.720 --> 00:13:56.080 weird you know, you hear what. There's kind of a 201 00:13:56.080 --> 00:14:01.759 lot out there. I need to learn most from witness encounters, 202 00:14:01.799 --> 00:14:05.679 and very often they'll describe the clicking and the melodic 203 00:14:05.879 --> 00:14:10.080 sort of clucking that kind of thing, and there was 204 00:14:10.120 --> 00:14:15.360 one description I heard that it was like the sound 205 00:14:15.440 --> 00:14:20.559 of running waters, which piqued my interest because in the 206 00:14:20.639 --> 00:14:25.840 boublical studies you look into revelation in the Bible, John 207 00:14:26.080 --> 00:14:30.279 reported hearing Jesus speak with the sound of many waters, 208 00:14:30.480 --> 00:14:35.360 which is like, okay, that's perhaps an element of what 209 00:14:35.519 --> 00:14:42.960 could be angelic speak or or language that only the 210 00:14:43.159 --> 00:14:49.240 Bene elohem would would know, or beings of that unseeing realm, 211 00:14:49.279 --> 00:14:53.720 which is the shadeen. Shadeen is an Hebrew word that 212 00:14:53.840 --> 00:14:57.240 means territorial spirits. When it was translated, I think it 213 00:14:57.279 --> 00:15:01.840 lost its original meetings. In modern West Christianity has taken 214 00:15:01.879 --> 00:15:06.120 a demonic or demons. If you look at the original Hebrew, 215 00:15:06.120 --> 00:15:08.759 it's actually territory and spirits. So they could, in my opinion, 216 00:15:08.799 --> 00:15:12.960 they could be evil or good. They can be demonic 217 00:15:13.200 --> 00:15:15.840 or angelic. They can be this, that or the other thing. 218 00:15:16.120 --> 00:15:20.879 And I think there are many. I think there are 219 00:15:20.879 --> 00:15:23.519 many of these beings and they all have their own place. 220 00:15:24.600 --> 00:15:27.399 That's that's speculation. I can't say for sure, but that's 221 00:15:27.399 --> 00:15:31.399 where my mind and my own evidence to passive bodial 222 00:15:31.600 --> 00:15:33.360 observation has taken me. 223 00:15:34.240 --> 00:15:38.440 Walk us through the process. You find these structures and 224 00:15:38.480 --> 00:15:42.879 then you just place a voice activated recorder in them, 225 00:15:43.000 --> 00:15:44.360 or how do you set it up? 226 00:15:44.399 --> 00:15:46.759 I do. I set it down at the base of 227 00:15:46.799 --> 00:15:51.639 these structures. I tried my best to hide them. Very 228 00:15:51.679 --> 00:15:56.919 often they find them, and that's exert I believe I 229 00:15:56.960 --> 00:16:00.639 have a clip I can share it enough to share 230 00:16:00.639 --> 00:16:05.279 it with you later of actual juveniles holding my recorder 231 00:16:06.360 --> 00:16:09.679 and an older voice in there in the mix, and 232 00:16:09.720 --> 00:16:11.480 it kind of sounds like the older one was saying, 233 00:16:11.559 --> 00:16:18.039 what is it like a really deep gravelly ah, just 234 00:16:18.039 --> 00:16:23.200 a deep old voice. It's it's fascinating. So and I 235 00:16:23.279 --> 00:16:25.799 but I believe they were holding it because when I 236 00:16:25.840 --> 00:16:28.960 retrieved the recorder, it was in a neon a neoprene 237 00:16:28.960 --> 00:16:32.720 sleeve and it had this like iridescence to it when 238 00:16:32.720 --> 00:16:35.080 I picked it up, as it were coded in some 239 00:16:35.120 --> 00:16:37.200 sort of powder, and it reminded me of the powder 240 00:16:37.240 --> 00:16:40.360 that my mother had on her makeup table as a boy, 241 00:16:40.679 --> 00:16:44.440 and had somewhat of an iridescence to it. That's what 242 00:16:44.480 --> 00:16:46.879 it looked like. And I threw the back of my 243 00:16:46.879 --> 00:16:49.679 car and went I bought my business. The stink. The 244 00:16:49.919 --> 00:16:54.480 stink started. It was really pervasive in in my car 245 00:16:54.519 --> 00:16:56.519 and I couldn't identify for a while, but it was 246 00:16:56.639 --> 00:17:01.320 the whatever was left on the uh the new prem 247 00:17:02.320 --> 00:17:06.319 quorder cover huh uh so, and I have that backup 248 00:17:06.359 --> 00:17:09.279 audio to, you know, add to the plausibility that that 249 00:17:09.480 --> 00:17:13.680 was the scenario of the setting. Jim Roles picked it 250 00:17:13.759 --> 00:17:19.799 up and were wondering. Sometimes they never have taken the recorders. 251 00:17:19.960 --> 00:17:24.960 On probably three or four occasions found them for pushed 252 00:17:25.160 --> 00:17:30.279 way further in than where I left, which I think 253 00:17:30.359 --> 00:17:33.480 is interesting, and that was the case with that one 254 00:17:33.519 --> 00:17:33.880 as well. 255 00:17:35.400 --> 00:17:38.599 Do you think these structures you're funding me? Because I 256 00:17:38.680 --> 00:17:41.440 mean I've seen video and photographs of some of the 257 00:17:41.440 --> 00:17:46.359 structures you found, and in most cases they look like 258 00:17:46.839 --> 00:17:53.279 what we would build for like emergency survival shelter type situation, yeah, 259 00:17:53.359 --> 00:17:56.720 Debrie shelters. Yeah. Do you think they're shelters for them 260 00:17:56.880 --> 00:17:59.559 or do they have some other purpose or they trying 261 00:17:59.640 --> 00:18:04.240 to make them look like something that we would construct. 262 00:18:05.119 --> 00:18:07.200 I don't know. I don't have an answer for that. 263 00:18:07.680 --> 00:18:10.160 All I know is that when I find these structures, 264 00:18:10.240 --> 00:18:14.680 I do test. I do test if they have that 265 00:18:14.720 --> 00:18:17.799 primitive feel, especially I do test that lead recorders, and 266 00:18:17.839 --> 00:18:20.359 that's how I know. I don't know what they significant, 267 00:18:20.640 --> 00:18:25.240 significant signify. I believe that these are places. They tell 268 00:18:25.319 --> 00:18:29.480 me where where they've been before and where they will 269 00:18:29.599 --> 00:18:34.039 likely be again. So the only way to test that 270 00:18:34.200 --> 00:18:37.839 is to leave audio recorders. I'm trying to. I tried 271 00:18:37.880 --> 00:18:41.680 early on. I tried game camps, and I got nothing. 272 00:18:41.960 --> 00:18:46.119 I left a trail cam at a spot based in 273 00:18:46.160 --> 00:18:50.759 the structure, and I didn't see just a week, but 274 00:18:50.839 --> 00:18:55.119 I didn't see a single rodent, not a squirrel, not 275 00:18:55.200 --> 00:19:00.240 a bird, nothing. I didn't get anything, which I thought 276 00:19:00.359 --> 00:19:04.799 was pretty interesting, big or not that was in a 277 00:19:04.839 --> 00:19:08.119 suburb of ann Arbor or just outside of the Arbor, 278 00:19:10.000 --> 00:19:12.319 And it goes to underscore the fact that there's a 279 00:19:12.559 --> 00:19:17.359 heavy presents around our watersheds I could bring around Detroit. 280 00:19:17.519 --> 00:19:20.319 As a matter of fact, Cliff Barrittman I hired him 281 00:19:20.319 --> 00:19:22.240 once upon a time. He was in West Branch doing 282 00:19:23.319 --> 00:19:26.680 a lecture and I hired him for a Sunday afternoon 283 00:19:28.480 --> 00:19:30.160 sort of session. It was the first time I had 284 00:19:30.200 --> 00:19:35.240 actually aired my carelier recordings. My end of the presentation 285 00:19:35.400 --> 00:19:39.440 didn't really go so well. This was like spring of 286 00:19:39.559 --> 00:19:42.319 nineteen and I had just gotten into it. The first 287 00:19:42.319 --> 00:19:45.079 recorder I laid, I think was late November twenty eighteen, 288 00:19:45.880 --> 00:19:47.759 so I newly brand new with this kind of stuff. 289 00:19:47.799 --> 00:19:51.480 I was still using Audacity as the you know, to 290 00:19:51.559 --> 00:19:55.559 filter and clean up some audio. I later moved on 291 00:19:55.680 --> 00:20:00.759 to Adobe Audition and have refined my skills where where 292 00:20:00.799 --> 00:20:04.000 where I'm a pretty good formula which changes all the 293 00:20:04.039 --> 00:20:08.759 time depending on the clip that that reveals these these uh, 294 00:20:08.839 --> 00:20:11.240 these audio, these these vocalizations. 295 00:20:12.480 --> 00:20:16.640 Have you heard other audio recordings from other people that 296 00:20:16.799 --> 00:20:18.359 are similar to what you've captured? 297 00:20:19.759 --> 00:20:22.519 Oh? I spoke of that earlier this afternoon. There's a 298 00:20:22.519 --> 00:20:28.119 fellow interested in doing a documentary on my work, and, 299 00:20:29.319 --> 00:20:33.079 believe it or not, matt Matthew Johnson, uh, the chiropractor. 300 00:20:33.119 --> 00:20:36.200 I believe he is, UH and he has I don't 301 00:20:36.279 --> 00:20:39.440 really follow his work, however, at having investigated it, and 302 00:20:39.440 --> 00:20:41.920 and he's probabished some audio on the front of his 303 00:20:42.000 --> 00:20:45.640 red page. I'm sorry I can't name it right now, 304 00:20:45.680 --> 00:20:49.440 only because I can't remember it, but his audio was 305 00:20:50.519 --> 00:20:54.799 very much of the same ilk that I have gathered. 306 00:20:55.160 --> 00:20:58.200 There's also Christine Parker. I don't know if you know 307 00:20:58.240 --> 00:21:01.240 that name. She was around years ago and wrote a 308 00:21:01.240 --> 00:21:06.000 book called one hundred Bigfoot Nights. Yes, yes, so all right, 309 00:21:06.079 --> 00:21:09.960 So her stuff is much like that which I've I've 310 00:21:09.960 --> 00:21:16.400 also captured quite honestly in that in that vein. I 311 00:21:16.480 --> 00:21:20.119 don't know what uh you know, everybody considers run More 312 00:21:20.160 --> 00:21:22.960 heads work recordings to be the all end all every 313 00:21:22.960 --> 00:21:25.279 time they hear them, especially now and especially after the 314 00:21:25.319 --> 00:21:27.680 seven and a half plus years of recordings that I gotten. 315 00:21:28.000 --> 00:21:31.160 I don't have anything really that sounds like what he 316 00:21:32.000 --> 00:21:36.319 has recorded. So I believe they record something, but they 317 00:21:36.640 --> 00:21:40.559 I believe they're much different beings than that which I've 318 00:21:40.599 --> 00:21:44.640 captured in the hills and waterways of Michigan. All the 319 00:21:44.680 --> 00:21:48.839 stuff that I have has has similarities in that they 320 00:21:48.880 --> 00:21:56.759 have these these a very interesting harmonic resonance which they 321 00:21:56.839 --> 00:22:00.279 use most of him, and that harmonic resonance I think 322 00:22:00.400 --> 00:22:04.359 is maybe responsible for what people are feeling when the 323 00:22:04.400 --> 00:22:07.720 hair is raised on the back of their neck. I 324 00:22:07.720 --> 00:22:12.160 had an encounter in twenty nineteen that was October twenty first. 325 00:22:12.200 --> 00:22:16.920 It was another Monday night. That little one was Monday morning, 326 00:22:16.960 --> 00:22:21.519 but Monday night, and around eight o'clock I heard ch 327 00:22:21.720 --> 00:22:25.119 hop from downstream of the river, which is the river's 328 00:22:25.160 --> 00:22:28.799 probably fifty yards for me. I can't see it, but 329 00:22:28.880 --> 00:22:31.359 it was from that direction and then upstream I heard 330 00:22:31.359 --> 00:22:34.839 this big, loud boom. The boom was like a I'd 331 00:22:34.920 --> 00:22:37.039 liken it to an empty dumpster being dropped on the 332 00:22:37.079 --> 00:22:39.880 concrete from a few feet off the ground. It was loud. 333 00:22:39.960 --> 00:22:45.319 I felt the percussive impact of that boom, and it's 334 00:22:45.359 --> 00:22:47.680 in the audio as well. You can detect it. I 335 00:22:47.759 --> 00:22:50.039 recorded it one other time where I was not present 336 00:22:50.279 --> 00:22:53.880 up in the up If anybody's curious to hear that, 337 00:22:54.119 --> 00:22:57.519 it's at the very beginning of the Hanso footage. I 338 00:22:57.519 --> 00:23:01.079 believe I sent you a clip. That clip was, well, 339 00:23:02.160 --> 00:23:08.720 so they're out there, this this this strange, otherworldly cryptid 340 00:23:09.000 --> 00:23:13.880 you know, nocturnal chains of darkness kind of realm I 341 00:23:13.920 --> 00:23:18.759 believe exists. And the only thing I can you know, 342 00:23:19.240 --> 00:23:23.640 liken it to or explain explain it with. There are 343 00:23:23.440 --> 00:23:29.119 the biblical documentations and mentions of these beings. 344 00:23:29.640 --> 00:23:33.119 I mean, the audio that you sent me, I would 345 00:23:33.200 --> 00:23:39.240 not classify it as the typical stuff you here presented 346 00:23:39.319 --> 00:23:44.240 as Bigfoot vocalizations. It's not the whoops and the howls 347 00:23:44.319 --> 00:23:48.079 and the screams and things like. I mean, it's pretty creepy. 348 00:23:48.119 --> 00:23:48.319 Man. 349 00:23:48.720 --> 00:23:52.200 Do you think are you recording one thing or are 350 00:23:52.240 --> 00:23:55.160 you recording multiple different things. 351 00:23:55.279 --> 00:23:59.079 I have to believe that I'm recording multiple different things 352 00:23:59.079 --> 00:24:03.920 that are all part of that you know, otherworldly unseen realm. 353 00:24:04.000 --> 00:24:08.759 That's just my current thinkings on that. You know, if 354 00:24:08.799 --> 00:24:12.759 you listen to my encounter of October twenty first, twenty nineteen, 355 00:24:13.160 --> 00:24:15.400 that was the Monday night, it was two nights before 356 00:24:15.480 --> 00:24:18.039 I picked up what I call the well like a 357 00:24:18.519 --> 00:24:20.720 called deep scout audio, but it's really kind of a 358 00:24:20.799 --> 00:24:24.079 key to helping me understand what I actually captured during 359 00:24:24.079 --> 00:24:28.920 the encounter two nights prior so. And you listen to that, 360 00:24:29.160 --> 00:24:34.519 you will hear this otherworldly clicky clucky stuff that's enunciated. 361 00:24:34.640 --> 00:24:37.839 You will hear conventional speech you're here, scoops that sounds 362 00:24:37.960 --> 00:24:42.359 gremlin ish, And you know, I got one that clearly 363 00:24:42.559 --> 00:24:46.440 says are you we can Havoc and about a minute 364 00:24:46.480 --> 00:24:50.960 fifty seconds later, the same voice as Havoc hate this 365 00:24:51.079 --> 00:24:55.599 man tomorrow. It's weird. I encourage you to look it 366 00:24:55.680 --> 00:24:59.440 up and yeah, yeah, tell me and I and I 367 00:24:59.480 --> 00:25:03.480 have to come home after that camping trip to my wife, 368 00:25:03.559 --> 00:25:07.000 who hates this subject. I had to internalize all that 369 00:25:07.799 --> 00:25:12.240 for months now. I didn't I didn't listen to the 370 00:25:12.279 --> 00:25:15.920 audio after that until a month later, because I'd wait 371 00:25:15.960 --> 00:25:18.279 for my nerves to settle after all I had gone through. 372 00:25:19.079 --> 00:25:21.079 And you can hear me in that audio footage too. 373 00:25:21.200 --> 00:25:23.960 Hear you hear a lot, and I never saw a 374 00:25:24.000 --> 00:25:27.920 thane that night, but you'll hear things that are just 375 00:25:28.039 --> 00:25:31.400 absolutely otherworldly and crazy. But you also hear things like 376 00:25:31.440 --> 00:25:35.400 at the three minute thirty second mark of that ten 377 00:25:35.440 --> 00:25:37.920 minutes audio that I published, and this is all during 378 00:25:37.960 --> 00:25:41.480 the encounter. The encounter starts at four minutes fifty three 379 00:25:41.519 --> 00:25:45.039 of that footage that Light published, and two versions of 380 00:25:45.079 --> 00:25:49.160 that footage are published, and in one a little more uh, 381 00:25:49.759 --> 00:25:53.039 a little more overmodulated version, you can hear it three 382 00:25:53.079 --> 00:25:58.279 minutes thirty seconds a deep voice. It says Eban obvious ooohh. 383 00:25:59.599 --> 00:26:02.200 I mean, it's super cool. It's one of my favorite expressions. 384 00:26:03.240 --> 00:26:05.720 And you got to listen closely or else she'll miss it. 385 00:26:05.759 --> 00:26:09.359 But that stuff is, it is real, and it's in there. 386 00:26:09.440 --> 00:26:13.400 In there. You hear hegi lahwa. You hear an expression 387 00:26:13.519 --> 00:26:16.680 snack pot. I don't know if they were talking about 388 00:26:16.720 --> 00:26:19.319 what I was eating or not. I just earlier I 389 00:26:19.319 --> 00:26:22.519 had made a traveler stew which is probably about fifteen 390 00:26:22.599 --> 00:26:29.160 years old. It was terrible. Maybe though referred to a snack. 391 00:26:29.319 --> 00:26:33.880 I don't know. When you hear hegey lah blah, you'll 392 00:26:33.920 --> 00:26:36.480 hear me say what was that? At that moment, there 393 00:26:36.480 --> 00:26:42.480 were a couple of major dumps of water from my tarp. 394 00:26:43.480 --> 00:26:47.640 It was above the recorder. It's crazy. The whole thing 395 00:26:47.720 --> 00:26:50.880 is crazy. And around that time I got zopped. I 396 00:26:50.920 --> 00:26:56.000 heard this. If I can liken it to in sound 397 00:26:56.160 --> 00:27:01.559 to a visual, remember that salt and pepper snow screen, 398 00:27:02.079 --> 00:27:08.720 that what happened on TV old TVs, TVs and that that. Yeah, 399 00:27:08.759 --> 00:27:10.880 the static, it was that static. It felt like that 400 00:27:11.000 --> 00:27:14.680 static on my ear drums. It was weird. It was 401 00:27:14.759 --> 00:27:18.880