Speaker 1: When the episode started, we were arguing about who's a
Speaker 1: better parent had I was like joking, I was like,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I like Jimmy Buffett a little bit,
Speaker 1: like I like four songs. I was like, I'm not
Speaker 1: the bigger parrot, let's be honest. And now I am like, I.
Speaker 2: Am like a pretty big fan and now it's my identity. Yeah, like, I.
Speaker 1: Guess this means a whole lot to me in ways
Speaker 1: I didn't understand.
Speaker 3: All right, well, please don't let that influence your hate rates.
Speaker 4: It's gonna need to.
Speaker 5: Sarah.
Speaker 2: I'm a pretty big so I love it.
Speaker 3: Hello everyone, and welcome back to me book Club. This
Speaker 3: week we read Where is Joe Merchant by Jimmy Buffett.
Speaker 3: Qualk squawks, squawk, squawk. That's what they do, right, that's
Speaker 3: their thing. They go squawk squawk.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh wow, you have never been on a pair
Speaker 1: head cruise and it shows I don't know, I don't no,
Speaker 1: but I would have loved to have gone on one, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: a dream come true?
Speaker 3: Are you going to be our officionado on all Things Buffett?
Speaker 1: For this episode, I definitely think I'm the most parent
Speaker 1: head of the crew.
Speaker 3: Do you think you're the most parrohead.
Speaker 4: Yeah are you?
Speaker 6: You are?
Speaker 2: How many Jimmy Buffett concerts you go to?
Speaker 4: Well, I've never.
Speaker 1: You don't have to go to Jimmy Buffett concert to
Speaker 1: live the Jimmy Buffett lifestyle.
Speaker 4: That's what's so cool about JD.
Speaker 2: That is true. But I have gone, Wow, one, it
Speaker 2: was just one, but I went to one.
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, how many Margheritaville's?
Speaker 2: Have you guys eaten at at least one? Together?
Speaker 1: Then I've been to two because I don't say we're
Speaker 1: going with you, but I remember going a different time.
Speaker 3: All right, all right, Us and Dan.
Speaker 4: Was this in Vegas?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, we did go.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we went to Margaritaville and then I went to
Speaker 1: one in Key West, the Ogs.
Speaker 4: So I think it's pretty the question.
Speaker 2: That's the question that I'm the bigger fan.
Speaker 4: All Right, we'll get into it.
Speaker 3: We'll definitely get into it. As Olie's we are your
Speaker 3: Hosts me book Club re read New York Times bestsellers
Speaker 3: that you say, should they be?
Speaker 7: I'm Sarah Burton, I'm Jonas Grabis, and I am Sabrina B.
Speaker 2: Parrothead straw.
Speaker 4: You can't give yourself a nickname.
Speaker 2: I'm sure the B is for Buffett, Sabrina Buffett.
Speaker 1: Jordan's finally revealed. Wow, for these years.
Speaker 3: Clara is not here yet. She will be joining us,
Speaker 3: but I also am good to guess she's not going
Speaker 3: to be arguing that she herself is a parrothead. I
Speaker 3: think she's gonna probably pull herself out of that competition.
Speaker 1: I think you have to like music of any kind
Speaker 1: to be in the running to be a pairent. Have
Speaker 1: we know that Clara does not sure full stop does
Speaker 1: not listen to or enjoy music?
Speaker 3: Right right, There's something. There's something going on with the
Speaker 3: brain there. But I need so, Sabrina, why are we
Speaker 3: reading where is Joe Merchant?
Speaker 2: My gosh, we are reading where is Joe Merchant? Because
Speaker 2: of Patreon Fred Jump Fred, Fred Fred, let's go.
Speaker 3: You've heard him before?
Speaker 2: Fred Fred reckon, Guy Reckon as in recommendation, not as
Speaker 2: in wreck it Ralph Anyway, Fred said hello. I initially
Speaker 2: intended to just contribute once to the reading list, but
Speaker 2: after learning to my horror that my last recommendation may
Speaker 2: have been a book that wasn't actually on the bestseller list,
Speaker 2: I decided to pay for a request for next season.
Speaker 2: Just heads up, everybody, you can pay us and we
Speaker 2: will accept your recommendation if you pay enough money. As
Speaker 2: Fred did, and I decided to pay for a requests
Speaker 2: for next season, and this time I did research, namely Wikipedia.
Speaker 2: My request for next season is where is Joe Merchant?
Speaker 2: Written by the late singer songwriter Jimmy Buffett. This time
Speaker 2: it is a novel that had that I have read
Speaker 2: cover to cover and it was baffing, bafflingly number one
Speaker 2: on the bestseller list on September twentieth of nineteen ninety two,
Speaker 2: and then again on both October fourth and eleventh of
Speaker 2: that year. If the fact that he gives us an out,
Speaker 2: if the fact that Buffett died last year makes you
Speaker 2: hesitant to cover this book, I understand, not a problem.
Speaker 3: Did not a problem, not a problem.
Speaker 2: We respect the dead, but we're willing to read the book.
Speaker 3: We're not dead heads, you know, we're prepare it heads.
Speaker 3: It's different. It's a different head. Yeah. And also, if
Speaker 3: you guys are wondering Fred Jones, what was the book
Speaker 3: he misled us on, it was The Darkly Dreaming Dexter.
Speaker 3: I love.
Speaker 4: The way this was written.
Speaker 1: I love learning to my horror, which must have happened
Speaker 1: live on the guest during listening to his horror.
Speaker 3: We also don't do research.
Speaker 1: To my horror that you do very little research for
Speaker 1: going into the books you pick.
Speaker 3: That's yeah, I mean we do do research, but it's
Speaker 3: just when we're picking books, you got to just make decisions.
Speaker 3: And I don't have time. We don't have the time.
Speaker 3: We'll never read the books that we don't just go, go,
Speaker 3: go and and anyway. So I think that's also how
Speaker 3: we got here to read this.
Speaker 1: The opposite of a Jimmy Buffett life style. We're just go, go, yeah,
Speaker 1: and we end it up here.
Speaker 3: How I would say, I feel like we're gonna all
Speaker 3: have the same story for how'd you read it? But
Speaker 3: why don't we go? Why don't we go ahead? How'd
Speaker 3: you guys read this book?
Speaker 4: Okay? A disaster for me.
Speaker 1: You know, you think a week is going to be
Speaker 1: enough time to read a book if you're looking ahead
Speaker 1: at the booklist and you're like, cool, we're doing this
Speaker 1: book in a week. Like you're like, man, I'm really
Speaker 1: good at my job. For this book, it is not
Speaker 1: enough time. Because this book does not exist anywhere. You
Speaker 1: cannot find it at the library. Okay, strike one, Fine,
Speaker 1: you know what, I'll just go on Audible. I like,
Speaker 1: I've been enjoying the Audible subscription.
Speaker 4: Uh it's not there.
Speaker 1: No, okay, fine, I'll go on Amazon. You know, I
Speaker 1: hate to do it, gross, but it's like, look, am I,
Speaker 1: but I just try to pretend it's not Uh not
Speaker 1: there either, guys. Not certainly, not in in like any
Speaker 1: reasonable length or time, and not in a digital form.
Speaker 4: So I had to go on eBay to find this book.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: And that's where I finally got it in time to read.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: It was not an easy task. I like buying used
Speaker 1: books if I can. You just need more than a
Speaker 1: week's notice to do it. And let that be a
Speaker 1: lesson to every reader.
Speaker 4: You can't. You can't Jimmy Buffett around this one.
Speaker 3: Pants, Sabrina, how did you read this book?
Speaker 2: Well, despite Johonna's assertion to the contrary, you can find
Speaker 2: it at the library. They just have to pull it
Speaker 2: out of storage for you.
Speaker 1: No, what did your relationship with the library? What is
Speaker 1: your special relationship?
Speaker 3: You're sleeping with the librarian?
Speaker 2: I brooklynlibrary dot com.
Speaker 4: And there's something I've I used.
Speaker 2: I type in the title of the book, and I
Speaker 2: don't always remember to check the author, so sometimes that'll
Speaker 2: get you. But typically you just type in the title
Speaker 2: of the book and then it'll tell you the formats
Speaker 2: they've got. I will say I requested it as soon
Speaker 2: as we had our list. I requested every single.
Speaker 4: Book, tricky of you.
Speaker 2: And because this was in storage, it it took a
Speaker 2: minute to get to me, and I have unfortunately had
Speaker 2: to hold it a bit past its stud date.
Speaker 4: Uh oh, because we weren't like me, couldn't get it.
Speaker 2: Wait, well, we weren't reading it yet, and I had
Speaker 2: to wait until we read it to read it. But
Speaker 2: it's actually it's like mildly past its due date.
Speaker 3: It's not even you are you gonna have to pay
Speaker 3: money for that? For that going over the note, Wow.
Speaker 4: No, I'm not in this world somehow.
Speaker 2: No, they don't. They don't have library. There's no library fines.
Speaker 2: If you never return the book, there will be a
Speaker 2: fee on your account for the price of the book.
Speaker 2: But as soon as you return the book that goes away.
Speaker 2: That was not always the case. I do need everyone
Speaker 2: to know that I was once sent to collection over
Speaker 2: like a four dollars library. Fine, it's so my credit
Speaker 2: report to the loss hit that year.
Speaker 3: Return your books, you know, I so deserved. I like
Speaker 3: both of you. Even though Surita didn't express this, but
Speaker 3: I think she felt this way. I was just very,
Speaker 3: very upset to find that there was no digital or
Speaker 3: audio version of this book. I did notice, probably like
Speaker 3: Fred immediately, because I couldn't get it at the library
Speaker 3: here as well. So I ordered it used on Amazon
Speaker 3: and did get it with plenty of time. However, it
Speaker 3: was still just like a book with paper in it
Speaker 3: and words, and I really wanted an audiobook. I think,
Speaker 3: I'm I don't. Oh, it's really hard a book I
Speaker 3: don't want to read, and it not being an audiobook,
Speaker 3: it's it's really hard for me to open those pages.
Speaker 3: And so I just kept desperately searching the internet. I
Speaker 3: thought some I thought there would be like a Sabrina
Speaker 3: method of someone has recorded this on YouTube, because it
Speaker 3: is there was never an audio version made of it,
Speaker 3: and like nobody has the audio rights. Like I looked
Speaker 3: at it doesn't exist, and I was like, somebody somebody's
Speaker 3: will do it for me, somebody has done a weird recording. No,
Speaker 3: God damn it, there's nothing like that too, nothing to
Speaker 3: save me. No, I just had to bite the bullet
Speaker 3: and fucking read a book.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Oh it did hurt. It like hurt a little.
Speaker 3: Have damn it.
Speaker 2: I can't do something.
Speaker 3: I can't like put clothes away or like clean the
Speaker 3: kitchen while I'm oh, I was like, I have to
Speaker 3: sit with my body still.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Anyway, all right, so let's I guess let's get into
Speaker 3: the summary. Although before we start the summary, I do
Speaker 3: want to say this is this is mean book Club related,
Speaker 3: but I do I do think I have a pretty
Speaker 3: big revelation to share. Oh and it has to do
Speaker 3: with our bracket are which at the time that people
Speaker 3: are listening to this, it will have existed and people
Speaker 3: will have been voting on it. But do you want
Speaker 3: me to wait till the end to share this revelation
Speaker 3: or share it?
Speaker 4: Share now?
Speaker 1: I'm excited. I am dying to know the results. We've
Speaker 1: been doing some internal.
Speaker 2: Voting, so I never finished doing the worst one, did
Speaker 2: I I did the.
Speaker 3: Other one now, But what happened was I it doesn't matter.
Speaker 3: We were We have two brackets you guys are voting
Speaker 3: on for the best bad books, so books that we
Speaker 3: mean book club that we read but we're like, this
Speaker 3: is actually quite good, or we recommend like it's so
Speaker 3: stupid it's fun, you should read it. Yeah, then we
Speaker 3: also have the worst bad books or just burnable books,
Speaker 3: books that shouldn't. We have turned us into like pro
Speaker 3: you know, burn ban books type people.
Speaker 1: And just to be clear, we are so in favor
Speaker 1: of burning and banning books.
Speaker 3: Specifically these books that we Anyway, I thought the easiest
Speaker 3: way for us to like put one in each in
Speaker 3: the bracket from each season would just be for us
Speaker 3: to remember to use our brains and remember out of
Speaker 3: these eight books from the season, what was the worst one, Like,
Speaker 3: what was the book we hated? And what was the
Speaker 3: books we liked it? Yeah, And I mean, of course
Speaker 3: we have great memories. It hasn't been that long, what
Speaker 3: seven years, I don't know. Of course we remember and shockingly,
Speaker 3: as you guys might have to expect at this point, No,
Speaker 3: because I did have Blake go back and there were
Speaker 3: some tie breakers I needed, So I was like, why
Speaker 3: don't you just actually go and check what we actually voted?
Speaker 3: And he did. Oh and guys, it's not it's going
Speaker 3: to shock you. And I'm going to start. I'm going
Speaker 3: to start with one that I I The Secret, The
Speaker 3: Secret by Ronda.
Speaker 4: No, you definitely gave it up.
Speaker 3: Johnny, what do you think you gave this book? Like dicussing?
Speaker 1: H I okay, I'm starting to see the problem with
Speaker 1: the system.
Speaker 5: I think that I rated.
Speaker 1: It either really low or really high.
Speaker 3: You gave it a point five out of five.
Speaker 4: Okay, that's really low.
Speaker 3: Okay. I was point five, zero point five out of five,
Speaker 3: zero point five. I gave it a zero out of five.
Speaker 3: Clara gave it a one out of five. Yeah, Sabrina,
Speaker 3: what do you think you gave this book one hundred
Speaker 3: out of five? Sabrina? You gave The Secret by Rhanda
Speaker 3: Burn a three out of five?
Speaker 5: Okay?
Speaker 9: I am actually Lord, I had him double check.
Speaker 4: I was like, this is crazy.
Speaker 3: Do not believe this? He checked, like.
Speaker 2: My favorite book of all time?
Speaker 3: And I'm is it because.
Speaker 4: It revolves around it? Now?
Speaker 2: I really does so.
Speaker 3: I I just don't know whether we need to like
Speaker 3: relook at our system or what's going on. But I
Speaker 3: was just I was shook to my core.
Speaker 1: It like the numbering system is somehow flawed. Is full
Speaker 1: proof voting system that we use it the right episode.
Speaker 3: It may be very flat. And that was another thing
Speaker 3: that Blake was like waiting things because sometimes somebody like
Speaker 3: Sabrina would and you know, you gave Hunger Games five
Speaker 3: hundred out of five oh okay, because they don't tell
Speaker 3: me the average was one twenty nine five. And I'm like,
Speaker 3: we need to ignore what Sabrina said because that's not
Speaker 3: that's not helpful for the purposes. But yeah, yeah, we have.
Speaker 3: I was shocked at you know, things that we thought
Speaker 3: were bad. We were actually rated quite highly at the time.
Speaker 3: So you know, Okay, So is it gonna be this
Speaker 3: this bracket system. It's not an exact science. It's okay
Speaker 3: from here, but from our voters, from the people, from
Speaker 3: our listeners, it will be okay. We're trusting them to
Speaker 3: make the right decision.
Speaker 4: Here's where I put the time in Okay.
Speaker 2: With completing the bracket in time?
Speaker 3: Okay, Okay.
Speaker 2: I haven't finished all of the books for season twenty.
Speaker 1: I mean you could make an educated guess you could
Speaker 1: miss playing we've read.
Speaker 3: I mean, out of eight you've you've read seven, I believe.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, you're six and a half six.
Speaker 4: Kay.
Speaker 3: I think you know how you feel you know, I
Speaker 3: think you know, I think you know.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying that was what happened. I did the
Speaker 2: whole bred. I thought it would exclude this season, so
Speaker 2: I did vote the whole best ones, and then I
Speaker 2: got to this, the last one. I was like, well,
Speaker 2: I'm going to vote because I've filled out this whole
Speaker 2: bracket so far, but I don't know what to pick
Speaker 2: for season twenty. I felt very conflicted, like I'd be
Speaker 2: lying in my vote.
Speaker 3: All right, Well, that's that's interesting.
Speaker 1: That's my works so different than mine. I think, how
Speaker 1: fast can I do right?
Speaker 3: Right? Because I don't remember apparently, But all right, so
Speaker 3: that was a relation I had for you. But we
Speaker 3: got to get back to Buffett. Sabrina, can you give us?
Speaker 3: Can you sum it up for us?
Speaker 2: I can, and.
Speaker 3: She takes a big old I'm gonna assume, Sabrina, you're
Speaker 3: gonna have to do this.
Speaker 2: I am going to have to do it, and okay, great, great, great, But.
Speaker 7: I mean I don't do it because I'm feel free
Speaker 7: to vibe along.
Speaker 1: You know that doesn't work over zoom. I just know
Speaker 1: that I could sing every line of this and it
Speaker 1: wouldn't be a problem.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm still gonna do it, but I hear you.
Speaker 6: I just needed to feel her, like he said the music.
Speaker 6: You know what to do, you know what to do?
Speaker 2: Blake Do do Do Do Do Do Do Do do Blake.
Speaker 4: We just said Blake ad the leusic.
Speaker 2: No, but that's part of it. It's part of the vibe.
Speaker 2: All right. He can cut out me. Do do do it,
Speaker 2: but I gotta get in there.
Speaker 8: Do do Do Do Do Do doo.
Speaker 2: Frank Bama's a pilot. Trevor Caine was his girlfriend.
Speaker 8: And there's a psychic lady Desdemona.
Speaker 10: Frank Bama's looking at the request of his girlfriend. So's Desdemona?
Speaker 10: That psychic lady?
Speaker 8: Okay, Wasting away the Caribbean.
Speaker 11: Searching for Joe Murchant. Some people claim and he died
Speaker 11: by Sue was side.
Speaker 5: But I know boom boom.
Speaker 2: Boom, that he could be alive.
Speaker 12: I don't know the reason. Frank got hijacked this season
Speaker 12: by a guy with some islid tattoos.
Speaker 13: Trevor's Acutie got kidnapped. Opoody, how Frank founder I have
Speaker 13: in a clue.
Speaker 8: Wasting away in the Caribbean.
Speaker 11: Searching for Joe Merchant. There are lots of other caretors.
Speaker 8: And an oh.
Speaker 2: They're all a little nuts.
Speaker 3: Wow. Well, I I do appreciate that it was a song.
Speaker 3: What what? What? When did? Why did you? When did
Speaker 3: you decide that, like I'm going to make this rhyme
Speaker 3: versus verse, Like when you were like, oh, I don't
Speaker 3: need this to rhyme, and then you but then you
Speaker 3: were like, cutie, no, I have to say, oh, pooty,
Speaker 3: because something needs to rhyme, cutie, Like, how did you
Speaker 3: determine when you were rhyming versus not?
Speaker 2: Well, the song has rhyming versus not.
Speaker 4: So okay.
Speaker 2: For example, I didn't exactly follow that either.
Speaker 1: Like sponge Cake watching the Sun bake your Yeah, your
Speaker 1: Frank Bama is a pilot, Trevor Kane was his girlfriend.
Speaker 3: Don't rhyme? I would say that doesn't Yeah.
Speaker 4: I'm just like, what was your process there?
Speaker 2: Yeah? My process was that I'm an artist who can't
Speaker 2: be constrained by your shackles, and that's how I chose
Speaker 2: to do it.
Speaker 1: It's very I think you could have like even a
Speaker 1: slant rhyme could have worked there, Like forre Bama is
Speaker 1: a pilot, Traffic was a side chick yeah, that would
Speaker 1: have been that WOU would be pretty good.
Speaker 2: She wasn't a side chick, I mean, was his girlfriend?
Speaker 3: All right, That's.
Speaker 4: That's why I said, was his side chick? You know what?
Speaker 3: You know what, let's go. Thank you, Sabrina, Thank you
Speaker 3: for really appreciate that.
Speaker 6: I appreciate it, and I like it.
Speaker 4: Actually, I like it a lot.
Speaker 3: I just wonder, you know what. It was fun, great,
Speaker 3: and I'm sure with the music it's it's gonna it
Speaker 3: takes it. It's gonna take it over the top. I
Speaker 3: think one thought.
Speaker 1: I guess one question. What is the ocean that this
Speaker 1: happened in?
Speaker 2: No one knows?
Speaker 1: Okay, what is How do you pronounce the top of
Speaker 1: the first line wasting away in the Caribbean?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Caribbean is probably.
Speaker 3: Does it matter.
Speaker 2: I feel like you could say to Caribbean. It didn't
Speaker 2: fit in the cadence of the song.
Speaker 4: Okay, okay.
Speaker 1: I just needed to know if you are someone that
Speaker 1: said Caribbean, I just need to know that's all.
Speaker 6: In a way.
Speaker 2: What is the I guess I could have. I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't have a problem when people say Caribbean. I
Speaker 3: don't know what does that say about me. What is that?
Speaker 3: Two says caribbean versus Caribbean. Now I need to know
Speaker 3: I say both.
Speaker 2: I think I might too, I might, I might pirates
Speaker 2: of the what caribbean?
Speaker 3: Caribbean is more aligned with the words indigenous roots? Caribbean.
Speaker 3: Caribbean is common in American English.
Speaker 2: Oh see, it's common.
Speaker 3: Hmmm, Caribbean is not a compliment indigenous.
Speaker 1: Someone like me, uppercress, we say caribbean, all right. All
Speaker 1: the times I've visited, we always said Caribbean. But like whatever,
Speaker 1: what do I know?
Speaker 3: Well, maybe talk to some indigenous roots.
Speaker 2: Okay, guys, this is the opposite of your stance on Hawaii.
Speaker 2: By the way, it is.
Speaker 1: I know, I know it's the opposite. We both took
Speaker 1: and it was. It wasn't specifically Hawaii. It was the
Speaker 1: island of Kawai, Hawaii. We all now know it's Kawai. Anyway,
Speaker 1: let's get back to the book. I don't think we
Speaker 1: want to talk about this book.
Speaker 3: We are trying not to talk about this book. Uh
Speaker 3: is do we have a Jonas joke? Oh? Yes, I
Speaker 3: feel like this one should be pretty easy. But I'll
Speaker 3: let you go.
Speaker 4: Do we want to Okay?
Speaker 1: On three, let's all say what we think the pairing
Speaker 1: is for today? Oh three two one, Okay.
Speaker 3: That's not what you're holding up. I have to say, Sabrine,
Speaker 3: you're holding up surf Side TI and vodka. I just
Speaker 3: wrote an ad for them.
Speaker 4: Oh really, Yeah, people love Surf Side.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I wasn't going to drink it now this felt like
Speaker 2: I had to. But although I agree that Margherita is
Speaker 2: a better Jimmy Buffett fit, but it's just the vibes
Speaker 2: and I had I had.
Speaker 3: A can of margarita, but I did pour myself wine.
Speaker 3: But the margarita is.
Speaker 1: I want to just you know, since it's John is jugs,
Speaker 1: I want to add a little to this personally, if
Speaker 1: you're okay with a smoky taste, and not everybody is,
Speaker 1: and everybody likes a smoky infusion I love. Instead of
Speaker 1: a margarita, I love a mez cal RITA mez cow
Speaker 1: is like a slightly smoky or tequila. I think it
Speaker 1: adds just a nice depth of flavor. If you if
Speaker 1: you like whiskey but you don't like scotch, you're not
Speaker 1: gonna probably not gonna like a mes cow. I love it,
Speaker 1: And yes, you can get a margarita mix in the store,
Speaker 1: but I think it is easier and the best tasting
Speaker 1: to All you need to do is pour yourself some
Speaker 1: mezcal or some tequila, add lime and some agave, honey
Speaker 1: or sugar, preferably if you can do like the sugar
Speaker 1: water so you don't have the greeny at the bottom.
Speaker 4: That's all you need, simple syrup.
Speaker 1: I'm losing my mind. Okay, you're lucky. I got.
Speaker 2: If I can counter with my margarita recipe, yes, go ahead,
Speaker 2: which is tried and true. Is two parts tequila, one
Speaker 2: part quantro, one part fresh squeezed lime juice. So if
Speaker 2: you're making a batch, think two cups tequila, one cup quantro,
Speaker 2: one cup fresh squeezed lime juice. You could give it
Speaker 2: a little squeeze, one little squeeze of what's not blood oranges, grapefruit,
Speaker 2: little little squeeze of fresh grape juice, no sugar needed.
Speaker 2: I will say, no, it's really it's so delicious. The
Speaker 2: only thing I would advise is that it's so alcoholic,
Speaker 2: and so I've started to cut its three halfs worth
Speaker 2: of yeah, half seltzer water, and honestly, that's still more
Speaker 2: alcoholic than what you're gonna buy now.
Speaker 3: Listeners, this is a margarita off. Please make both margaritas
Speaker 3: on vote. Let us know.
Speaker 1: I love that they and they were remember but they
Speaker 1: were both presented really professionally. They both sound they both
Speaker 1: had all the information you needed.
Speaker 10: There.
Speaker 2: If they're right, up the sugar plus water so it's
Speaker 2: not grainy at the bottom.
Speaker 5: Okay.
Speaker 1: I actually prefer honey because I just always have honey.
Speaker 1: I don't need to make simple syrup. And especially if
Speaker 1: you're doing mezcal, the honey mix is just fine with it, okay,
Speaker 1: And it's all to taste. It's all to taste. So
Speaker 1: my recipe keeps it lose it, trusts you. My recipe
Speaker 1: is like, hey, you're not in a chemistry lab, all right,
Speaker 1: you're trying to have margarita. Don't stress about it. Put
Speaker 1: it into taste. Mix it up. Put a big old
Speaker 1: ice cube in there if you want. Okay, yeah, you
Speaker 1: can do crushed ice if you if you're really wanting
Speaker 1: to have fun, oh, don't forget to do the room.
Speaker 3: Really, this is these recipes are now taking way too long. Guys.
Speaker 2: Call this cherry cheese cake murder.
Speaker 1: If you want to rim your glass, you need to know, Johnna,
Speaker 1: don't tell them how to ring the glass.
Speaker 4: You need to have the glass be crystal clean.
Speaker 3: Whatever.
Speaker 1: Fine, if you don't want to know how to rem aglass,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to tell you, but there's a tactic
Speaker 1: to it.
Speaker 4: So whatever, be ignorant, All right, john right?
Speaker 3: I next, All right, guys, Sabrina, can you give us
Speaker 3: some background on this little number this book?
Speaker 2: Yes, and I was very selective with my my Jimmy
Speaker 2: Buffett author background history. Obviously, there's so much to Jimmy Buffett,
Speaker 2: but we're just going to do some of the hits.
Speaker 2: James William Buffett was born on Christmas of nineteen forty six.
Speaker 3: And fun, I know, and then.
Speaker 2: Which is so fitting because he brought so much joy
Speaker 2: to the world. Yes, and he very sadly passed away
Speaker 2: two years ago September first of twenty twenty three. He
Speaker 2: had been born in Mississippi, but he spent most of
Speaker 2: his childhood in Alabama. He had discovered that he wanted
Speaker 2: to be a musician at the age of fifteen. He
Speaker 2: ended up failing out of college at first, but he
Speaker 2: went back and he did go to college. But then
Speaker 2: after college he moved to New Orleans and started doing
Speaker 2: treat performances on Decatur Street and Bourbon Street, and then
Speaker 2: he moved to Nashville and his music career just like
Speaker 2: completely flourished. His music combined country rock, folk, calypso, and
Speaker 2: pop music, which I think is very interesting. I feel
Speaker 2: like the book, although it's not a music, it's not
Speaker 2: a piece of music, I feel like it combines those
Speaker 2: vibes as well. And he you know, the like cover
Speaker 2: of his book and everything you ever seen about him
Speaker 2: is just He was a storyteller through and through. In
Speaker 2: addition to being a beloved singer and songwriter, he was
Speaker 2: also quite the businessman, as we've already discussed his Margaritaville empire,
Speaker 2: and which includes not just restaurants, but like the blender
Speaker 2: for Margarita's, the Margarita maker, all of these like lifestyle items.
Speaker 2: His estate was well off when he passed. He released
Speaker 2: over thirty Yeah, he released over thirty albums. He has
Speaker 2: two Grammy noms. Upset to know that he never won
Speaker 2: a Grammy, and posthumously, he was inducted into the Rock
Speaker 2: and Roll Hall of Fame in the Musical Excellence category.
Speaker 3: Interesting.
Speaker 2: He liked the main character in this book, was a
Speaker 2: licensed pilot and often flew his own seaplane. He had
Speaker 2: a cameo in the movie Jurassic World.
Speaker 3: Random he created.
Speaker 2: A whole community of fans known as parrot heads. And
Speaker 2: he was an environmentalist, and he wrote multiple books which
Speaker 2: I actually had not known. So even though I'm claiming
Speaker 2: top parentead status, this is something I did not know.
Speaker 3: But of course you've Johanna, you've gotten this. You've gotten
Speaker 3: the children's books, right, I see he's got some children's books.
Speaker 3: I'm sure certainly have gotten those for your daughter as
Speaker 3: a parent head.
Speaker 1: I'll reserve my right to answer that question. But I
Speaker 1: do have a question for Sabrina when, Sabrina, when did
Speaker 1: you find out that he had written these other books?
Speaker 1: Like at what point or like want to say a
Speaker 1: time or date the other books?
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I knew for sure about Tales from Margaritaville
Speaker 2: when I received this book that has a big sticker
Speaker 2: on the copy from the same author of Tales from Margaritaville,
Speaker 2: and then I had looked it up. Then okay, but
Speaker 2: the full list I had looked up the Wikipedia, which
Speaker 2: which does not include the Wikipedia, says three books. But
Speaker 2: he's written more than that. So if you go to
Speaker 2: Jimmy Buffett's website, there's a whole section.
Speaker 3: On he's written three novels. Maybe that's where it came in.
Speaker 3: I think he's written children's books. He's written some like biographies.
Speaker 3: Tales from Margaritaville is like a collection of short stories.
Speaker 3: I believe where Joe Merchant was his first which came
Speaker 3: out in Novel Too was his first novel.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, so all right.
Speaker 1: It sounds like we found out about the same time
Speaker 1: that he's written a couple of books. I tried to
Speaker 1: see if I had beaten you by a couple of days.
Speaker 3: When did you date?
Speaker 2: I've I've had this book for about a month.
Speaker 1: Okay, I found out about a week ago when I
Speaker 1: started deerately looking for we have all whatever slame category
Speaker 1: to win.
Speaker 4: Why did we even bring it up? Next?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 2: It is worth mentioning another book title that we didn't read.
Speaker 2: But it's called Swine, not a novel, pigtail.
Speaker 3: It's fun one fun, it's so good.
Speaker 2: And then oh sorry.
Speaker 3: I just want to say this book. I watched like
Speaker 3: an interview from this book about this book, which was
Speaker 3: very old and there's not that much on the Internet
Speaker 3: about it, but like, no, he's very chill about He
Speaker 3: said it took him like three years to write it.
Speaker 3: It was really hard. Like he's always wanted to be
Speaker 3: a writer, he said, like his editor was like, oh,
Speaker 3: you're not a trained writer, and you can tell and
Speaker 3: that's why I like it or something. He's also friends
Speaker 3: with Hunter S. Thompson. I think you can kind of
Speaker 3: get that vibe from this book. Yeah, And also in
Speaker 3: that interview, he said, they asked what your next project
Speaker 3: is that he said he wanted to do a Broadway
Speaker 3: show and I didn't realize, but they did do a
Speaker 3: Broadway show and like the mid twenty tens. Yeah, it
Speaker 3: wasn't successful, but he did do it. So Jesus Christ
Speaker 3: that man.
Speaker 1: I know, yeah, for all of the kind of energy
Speaker 1: he puts out in his songs and his whole vibe,
Speaker 1: and I think a lot of that seems to be true.
Speaker 1: That that was like his mindset was like enjoy life
Speaker 1: and and like he was a big He really did
Speaker 1: live in Key West and have like that mentality. It
Speaker 1: also seems like he was a gigantic hustler in the
Speaker 1: positive sense.
Speaker 2: Of the word, and like, yeah, really.
Speaker 1: Sharp mind for business and like sort of just there
Speaker 1: are just those people that when they say they're going
Speaker 1: to do something, they do it, and even if the
Speaker 1: dream seems seems unattainable, they like they say they're going
Speaker 1: to do it, and incrementally they get there. And it
Speaker 1: seems like he was one of those people, and that's
Speaker 1: kind of cool, especially paired with the person he presented
Speaker 1: in songs, the way he made us parrot heads feel.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I should say also reparrot heads, we've got
Speaker 3: Claire coming on the Ultimate parrot Head. No. I I
Speaker 3: just want to put it out there from my person.
Speaker 3: I don't know anything about it. I feel like you
Speaker 3: maybe got that from me. I don't know anything about
Speaker 3: parrot hoods. I know the song Margaritaville, I don't know
Speaker 3: any of his other songs. And I don't get it.
Speaker 3: I don't get him. You don't get his soul, and
Speaker 3: I don't get the community. I don't understand.
Speaker 4: I would like unity.
Speaker 9: I'm insulted, and I just want to just give that
Speaker 9: outsider perspective of I don't Perhaps there were things in
Speaker 9: this book that really hit, you know, tickled those you
Speaker 9: know parrot heead spots, those itches and I just didn't
Speaker 9: know what the fuck was going on.
Speaker 3: And I think that happened a little bit with me. Clara, Hello,
Speaker 3: we are still we are still talking about we are
Speaker 3: just getting through the book background. That's where you were
Speaker 3: joining us.
Speaker 14: So did miss so I didn't miss so much?
Speaker 3: I guess, yeah. Do you want to keep going, Sabri? Sure?
Speaker 2: Yeah. So this book was published in nineteen ninety two,
Speaker 2: and as we discussed, it was never turned into an
Speaker 2: audio book. I think also maybe not even turned into
Speaker 2: an ebook, to be honest. No, it was a number
Speaker 2: one New York Times bestseller and it was on the
Speaker 2: Bestseller Fiction list for more than seven months. It the
Speaker 2: genre is part adventure, part magical realism. It has a breezy,
Speaker 2: buoyant tone, get it, get it, get it, but it's
Speaker 2: kind of whimsical, like buffet songs, which is funny.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: Obviously, two different readers, Sarah and I could have a
Speaker 2: different take on what that that means. And it is written.
Speaker 2: It's written in a meandering style, which some readers find chaotic.
Speaker 2: And something else I think is interesting about the book
Speaker 2: is some parts of it are written in the first person,
Speaker 2: and other parts of it are written in the third person,
Speaker 2: like when we're with the main character, we're in first person,
Speaker 2: but we do get to see what's going on with
Speaker 2: all the other characters even when we're not in first person,
Speaker 2: and you know, I just I haven't seen something like
Speaker 2: that before.
Speaker 3: It was it was certainly confusing to me.
Speaker 1: There's where that editor jumped in and said, you know,
Speaker 1: I can tell you're not a writer.
Speaker 4: And that's the.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this book had like, uh, you know, there are
Speaker 3: definitely there are things that are good. We're good about
Speaker 3: this book, but like the plot was confusing as fucked
Speaker 3: not one.
Speaker 4: Of the ones I didn't understand.
Speaker 3: I just kept I wrote a lot of because I
Speaker 3: was reading a book. Literally, I have a lot of
Speaker 3: notes that are like, what's going on? Is this funny?
Speaker 3: What's happening? Who is this? Did we meet them before?
Speaker 3: I have that written?
Speaker 2: Like a lot of there are a lot of characters.
Speaker 1: Yeah, another professional writer might teared down.
Speaker 4: You know, weed out pear down a bit.
Speaker 3: Desdemona though I did read this in one of the
Speaker 3: like reviews that that is she's based on an actual
Speaker 3: song that I'm sure you buffet heeads.
Speaker 2: Are Deemona's building a rocket chip is a Jimmy Buffett song,
Speaker 2: and he also mentions Demona and other songs.
Speaker 3: Okay, so there's also why he had to do that.
Speaker 3: Is that why?
Speaker 2: I don't think he had to. I think he wanted
Speaker 2: to just a little bit of a retort about the
Speaker 2: character list. Look, there were lot of characters. You know
Speaker 2: what else had a lot of characters, Warren Peace, Great retort.
Speaker 14: Great retort. Do you think the songwriter wants to also
Speaker 14: write books?
Speaker 2: No, I think I think there's a lot of overlap.
Speaker 3: Well, Dolly Potters, Yeah.
Speaker 14: At least and when you want to because you're you know,
Speaker 14: you have to create a character sometimes for a song.
Speaker 14: I think you do a good job, you should want
Speaker 14: to write a book about it.
Speaker 3: He apparently majored in like journalism, and I think he
Speaker 3: like wanted to be like a writer is something I
Speaker 3: think he had always like fantasized about the fact of
Speaker 3: mind or that's his minder at least that's like the
Speaker 3: kind that's what he says. I don't know if that's if.
Speaker 3: I don't know if that's a little bs for when
Speaker 3: he was doing his book tour.
Speaker 4: But no, that seems real.
Speaker 1: I mean his songs are they do tell stories, and
Speaker 1: they're like a lot of them are like funny and
Speaker 1: whimsical and like center around like a main character that's
Speaker 1: kind of tangentially just to Buffet. I was a sea captain,
Speaker 1: you know. But I feel like that's all this book was.
Speaker 1: It was just like, I guess it's what I liked
Speaker 1: about this book. It just was like a nice trip
Speaker 1: to Margaritaville. It's just like you.
Speaker 3: You have to want to go to Margaritaville. I guess
Speaker 3: it's a place, all right.
Speaker 4: I had a great time there very recently.
Speaker 3: Let's talk about the car. I went to Margarita Ville, Vegas.
Speaker 3: I thought the food was so so. I didn't probably
Speaker 3: lower than so, lower than so.
Speaker 4: Lower than so.
Speaker 15: It was just one kind of big market again, wouldn't
Speaker 15: go again even that that great, wouldn't say it was
Speaker 15: fresh squeeze juice, say that, would guess it was not.
Speaker 1: I think I had beers and I did karaoke, But
Speaker 1: it was, you know, a plus.
Speaker 4: The vibes were great.
Speaker 3: But it was they did have a whole thing going
Speaker 3: on where they would play him on the big screen
Speaker 3: and stuff. Anyway, the characters, let's go through those little bitches.
Speaker 3: Frank Bama, who was weird we've been talking about is
Speaker 3: the main the central character. He is probably the Jimmy Buffett,
Speaker 3: based off Jimmy Buffett. He is a plane. He the seaplane.
Speaker 2: Yes, so the Internet. I don't know if this is right,
Speaker 2: but the Internet thought maybe it was based off Jim Morrison,
Speaker 2: and I think perhaps right. I thought that Joe Merchant.
Speaker 14: Never mind, yeah he thought rock Star. Now I have eaten.
Speaker 1: Jimmy Buffett also has a song called Bama Breeze Bamare.
Speaker 3: Okay a bar so. I would have really if I
Speaker 3: was a parrohead, I would have really loved to see
Speaker 3: the name. Frank bamb would have immediately okay, okay, screaming immediately, Okay,
Speaker 3: all right, good to know, Good to know. Trevor ca
Speaker 3: is that in a something from something.
Speaker 14: I've never seen Trevor as a woman's name.
Speaker 3: Before, I know, but I liked it. He was having
Speaker 3: fun with names. I could tell that he was having
Speaker 3: a lot of fun with names.
Speaker 8: Bus Me.
Speaker 3: I did think it was a gay man. I did
Speaker 3: think he was a gay man, and I thought that
Speaker 3: was like, but no, it was just a hot woman.
Speaker 3: But she's an heiress to a hemorrhoid ointment empire, which
Speaker 3: again I was like, he really I just imagined him
Speaker 3: thinking writing then being like ha ha, this is gonna
Speaker 3: get him. This is gonna They're gonna love this capitalism.
Speaker 6: Am I right?
Speaker 3: That's what I have, That's what I feel like. It was.
Speaker 1: My real is the heir to the family that designed
Speaker 1: the underwires and bras, and I've always appreciated that fact.
Speaker 3: That's interesting because it's like, wow, I don't like them.
Speaker 4: No, I don't like him, and I don't like his family.
Speaker 1: I love, but it is definitely the most the most
Speaker 1: challenging part of a bra.
Speaker 5: Is the wire.
Speaker 1: It's always been funny to me. It's such a specific
Speaker 1: thing to be Maybe.
Speaker 14: They could keep Maybe he should suggest as family continue
Speaker 14: to innovate, it's like, that's the wire is a great
Speaker 14: first step. Why don't we keep going.
Speaker 1: Soft, like just like a Jim sock material instead of a.
Speaker 14: Wire, fresh clean, fresh.
Speaker 4: Fresh clean, never been worn, it's never been swep silk.
Speaker 4: Perhaps silk might be too hot. You don't want to
Speaker 4: breathable silk.
Speaker 14: You're breathable silk ribbon.
Speaker 3: That sounds nice, That sounds nice.
Speaker 2: Supporting, supportive, breatheable, cook it on your neck.
Speaker 3: Then we have Joe Merchant of the name where is
Speaker 3: Joe Merchant?
Speaker 14: She's moving on.
Speaker 3: Sorry, sorry if you guys want to keep riffing on
Speaker 3: the ribbon Joe Merchant, who again is like, you're kind
Speaker 3: of like, why is this the name of the book
Speaker 3: for most of the book, and then even when it's
Speaker 3: revealed the twisters revealing, you're still like, why is this
Speaker 3: the name of the book? Okay? Colonel Cairo, who was
Speaker 3: the main bad guy of this book, I would say
Speaker 3: he was apparently some I don't know, a pirate of sorts.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was difficult if I could offer criticism. It
Speaker 2: was difficult to follow what people were and why they
Speaker 2: mattered and what they did and the like you know,
Speaker 2: Joe or sorry, Frank Bama and Trevor Kane, they.
Speaker 3: Were liked I understood.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, they were reasonably human beings that you may
Speaker 2: have interacted with in your life, whereas like Colonel Cairo
Speaker 2: was not.
Speaker 3: It was it.
Speaker 2: Was like it was like they were characters and then
Speaker 2: some of them were caricatures, but they were all living
Speaker 2: in the same world, which was bad.
Speaker 3: And Colonel Carr, he was just like a very arch
Speaker 3: bad guy. He apparently had been in Africa and tried
Speaker 3: to make himself like a king or something, and he
Speaker 3: had lost an arm, and so he was looking for
Speaker 3: a scepter that would help him get his arm back.
Speaker 3: So this is where the book takes some turns, and
Speaker 3: I have to say, I'm not like against all of
Speaker 3: those turns, you know, like I love like The Hitchhiker's
Speaker 3: Guide to the Galaxy, you know, by Douglas Adams, Like
Speaker 3: I you know, I'm not. But it just felt like
Speaker 3: such an odd mishmash. I couldn't I couldn't get into it.
Speaker 3: It felt it was just it was too didn't feel
Speaker 3: right where it was. It felt like all this alien
Speaker 3: stuff felt really weird.
Speaker 4: It an album instead of a book.
Speaker 1: It was like all these things fit, you know, in
Speaker 1: one evening of listening perhaps, But like, you know, it.
Speaker 3: Wasn't a good concept album. That's an album. It's not
Speaker 3: a you know what I mean, Like it's the songs
Speaker 3: were a little different. I guess they're on the same album,
Speaker 3: but like why, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm also personally a plot based person over characters.
Speaker 14: This is the first time I realized that songs on
Speaker 14: an album are supposed to go together? God, just it's
Speaker 14: not just the songs that he had ready ridiculous. I
Speaker 14: really did not. They go together in some.
Speaker 3: Way another, some more than others.
Speaker 1: If anyone wants to hop onto Patreon or or shoot
Speaker 1: us an email of like, hey, here's a starter album
Speaker 1: for someone that's never heard music before.
Speaker 3: Should we should definitely do some bonus Patreon episodes where
Speaker 3: we just have Clara listens to and then an album
Speaker 3: and then we talk about it. It will be so fun.
Speaker 3: Sometimes they're like the hey, okay, modern albums are like
Speaker 3: thirty minutes Clara, it's gonna be.
Speaker 4: It'd be so unique.
Speaker 1: Though, it's like you're an adult that somehow like has
Speaker 1: never tried ketch up before or vegetables.
Speaker 14: Yeah, you're like, that's like vegetables.
Speaker 4: No, it's fun because it's like.
Speaker 1: Life, and it's like to watch an adult be like
Speaker 1: what is the for the first time?
Speaker 14: And it's why that also implies like you don't prioritize
Speaker 14: health and your baby ish.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well you don't prioritize culture. Joy, I guess that's fine.
Speaker 14: Like TV. I love TV, all.
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, well you might love listeners.
Speaker 14: I don't listen to music, a very normal thing about me?
Speaker 14: They know, Okay, I don't.
Speaker 2: We actually already mentioned it to that.
Speaker 14: Oh okay, I don't need to explain it. But did
Speaker 14: you preface it with a very normal thing about me?
Speaker 3: But this is definitely we got it. Don't worry. I
Speaker 3: know everyone wants to hear more of Clara's hot takes
Speaker 3: on music, and we will do this. This will be
Speaker 3: a for sure.
Speaker 14: Okay, I'll listen to a couple of songs, but I'm
Speaker 14: not doing a whole.
Speaker 3: All right, all right, all right? Uh where were you? John?
Speaker 3: What were you talking about? You're making some point about
Speaker 3: the plot or something like that doesn't make I.
Speaker 4: Know, it's a crazy take.
Speaker 3: I so that every character wanted something, I guess. But
Speaker 3: like Desdemona was building her rocket ship, she talked to
Speaker 3: alien She got like naked and got into some water
Speaker 3: and then would in an inner tube, floated an inner tube,
Speaker 3: and then she would talk to aliens. And this was
Speaker 3: actually happening. It wasn't that she was crazy. Was actually happening.
Speaker 3: And she was from that building a rocket ship called
Speaker 3: the Cosmic Muffin. And she also had a scepter for
Speaker 3: some reason, and that was and kind of why all
Speaker 3: this bad crazy planes, people shooting guns, blah blah blah.
Speaker 3: That all happens around getting the scepter, I guess.
Speaker 2: And she was a former backup singer for Joe Merchant
Speaker 2: and had been married to one of his right.
Speaker 3: I forgot so much to her character, so much it's
Speaker 3: almost hard to remember it's the same person, right, because
Speaker 3: how did that inform?
Speaker 2: It was interesting. I felt like they had She was
Speaker 2: introduced early in the book, and she was given that backstory,
Speaker 2: and I was like, oh, okay, we're trying to connect her,
Speaker 2: like make it make sense why she's looking for Joe Merchant.
Speaker 2: And then a lot of the other characters. It's like, okay,
Speaker 2: a journalist, sure, okay, a long lost cousin okay. Then
Speaker 2: it was like an overlord, and then a jet ski
Speaker 2: bomber and.
Speaker 3: Just a lot of people Blanton Myer Chord, right, and
Speaker 3: other He's having fun with names. He's having fun with
Speaker 3: Blanton Myer Chord. That was the jet was that, that
Speaker 3: was the jet ski guy, right. He he hated jet skis.
Speaker 3: He used to he this. I mean that it was
Speaker 3: kind of like a funny little story. It just felt
Speaker 3: very unconnected. It was very unconnected everything else where. He
Speaker 3: was someone who would take tourist fishing, and he really,
Speaker 3: you know, respected the environment and the fish and and
Speaker 3: would always return the fish that they caught back to
Speaker 3: the ocean. And then a jet ski killed a fish,
Speaker 3: and he was like, fuck these jet skis, and then
Speaker 3: he like he not only beat up some people and
Speaker 3: went to jail. Then he got out and then again
Speaker 3: blew up more jet skis, and then I thought he
Speaker 3: killed someone. This I can't even I'm I'm tired. I'm
Speaker 3: already I didn't even explain it all. And I'm tired.
Speaker 3: I'm tired explaining because it's wacky in a way that
Speaker 3: it doesn't.
Speaker 14: Yeah, it supposed to be funny. I don't think maybe
Speaker 14: it's supposed to be funny.
Speaker 1: I think the heir to the hemorrhoid fortune is like
Speaker 1: just an embodiment of the kind of humor you could expect.
Speaker 1: Or it's like, I suppose that's a funny collection of
Speaker 1: words you put together, Like yeah, it's.
Speaker 3: Like I think it came back, it came into play more.
Speaker 3: I would appreciate it. And you know, actually, now that
Speaker 3: I'm saying that, I can't give a few compliments. I
Speaker 3: think I put it in my notes, Sarah, I will
Speaker 3: I'm gonna pull it. I'm gonna it was tough. It's
Speaker 3: gonna be tough for me. But I wrote down I
Speaker 3: did notice that at the very end, when they're talking
Speaker 3: about the journalist, what was his character's name, Rudy. The
Speaker 3: novel opens with I was watching the Cubs game and
Speaker 3: eating a fried trimp platter at Bobba Loos when Rudy
Speaker 3: Brenno burst through the door, like Geraldo Rivera on a
Speaker 3: drug raid. Okay. And then at the end Rudy Brenno
Speaker 3: is with like Geraldo Rivera and in Alaska likes he
Speaker 3: kind of I don't know. I was like, oh, you
Speaker 3: kind of set that up.
Speaker 14: This is a compliment.
Speaker 3: I mean, I feel like that was on purpose, that
Speaker 3: he was like, did this and then brought it back.
Speaker 2: That's a confusion.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry to confuse.
Speaker 4: Maybe Jimmy said Giraldo and that was no, Oh.
Speaker 3: No, it was it was all me and.
Speaker 14: And I said it too, but I said it because there, Yeah.
Speaker 3: It's all right. I was wrong. Everyone can point and
Speaker 3: laugh at me. I live. I deserve it.
Speaker 14: Let her take away our power by saying she.
Speaker 4: Deserves all right.
Speaker 3: But anyway, I just was like, oh, he brought that
Speaker 3: imagery back at the very end, and I was that
Speaker 3: was that was it. That was the compliment.
Speaker 2: I good compliment in the beginning, and then later at
Speaker 2: the yeah, yeah another thing. I mean, look, I don't
Speaker 2: know that I'm the exact target audience for this book,
Speaker 2: so if you're not, yeah, but I do think that
Speaker 2: there are a lot of things that were written for
Speaker 2: the male gaze. And here's a y s certainly not
Speaker 2: an example. The start of chapter twenty three is Thorn Marshall.
Speaker 2: Don't have any idea who that character is. Thorn Marshall
Speaker 2: was not already out. Three naked hookers were huddled together
Speaker 2: in a small bunk like sleeping puppies, like, and then
Speaker 2: it goes on to talk about all you like thought
Speaker 2: about having sex with them, and there were just like
Speaker 2: so many random things where it was like this guy
Speaker 2: was horny as hell. They always got horny on power,
Speaker 2: and then there'd be in the beginning there was a
Speaker 2: conversation where he's like, I think my dick is hard,
Speaker 2: and then the other guy's like, I know what mine is.
Speaker 2: It's just I don't know, it's just not written for
Speaker 2: me and therefore not cool.
Speaker 3: There's also a moment at the end which I don't
Speaker 3: think I'm giving anything away to say this, but where
Speaker 3: Trevor Caine they're on like a boat of some sort,
Speaker 3: and she gets naked and gets takes her top off
Speaker 3: and gets on the front like I guess, like a
Speaker 3: siren of some sort, like you know what's traditionally on
Speaker 3: the front of like a pirate ship. That kind of
Speaker 3: me and she and her doing that makes the wind
Speaker 3: stop blowing, and that's just something that happens. And I thought, okay,
Speaker 3: all right.
Speaker 14: Yeah, what are the rules of the world? You have
Speaker 14: to establish that for other books.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I feel like part of the problem is, like maybe
Speaker 1: it's just true of any gigantic rock stars, like your
Speaker 1: own world becomes so warped at a certain point, like
Speaker 1: the rules of the world don't make sense to people
Speaker 1: like us, but maybe in Jimmy Buffett's world they make
Speaker 1: perfect sense. And like to other rock stars reading this,
Speaker 1: it's just like, yeah, it's.
Speaker 3: Just a book for other rock stars. They didn't They're okay,
Speaker 3: they're not enough rock stars in the world to get
Speaker 3: this on the number one Best seller list. Something else happened.
Speaker 4: That's true, that's true.
Speaker 2: I mean what happened was this like if Taylor Swift
Speaker 2: wrote a book right now, which, by the way, it
Speaker 2: would deserve to be number one. See she's engaged.
Speaker 3: I mean, this is such old news by the time
Speaker 3: this comes out. Yeah, but it's not old news today,
Speaker 3: so to us it feels special. Okay.
Speaker 2: And do you think it's a coincidence that she announced
Speaker 2: her engagement on my wedding anniversary? Because I don't think
Speaker 2: it is.
Speaker 3: Now it was for you, Sabrina was.
Speaker 1: On the anniversary of the day I officiated Sabrina's wedding.
Speaker 3: You're also important. Can we give away? Can I give
Speaker 3: away the twist? I don't know why. I am trying
Speaker 3: to protect this twist.
Speaker 4: Yeah, give So.
Speaker 3: There's another character we're introduced to earlier on called Charlie Fabian.
Speaker 3: He is works for Colonel Cairo. He's got tattoos on
Speaker 3: his eyelids. I don't know. He's like mad at the colonel.
Speaker 3: He's bosson around, but he's we're kind of in his head,
Speaker 3: but he's not like first person, so he's just killing people.
Speaker 3: I don't I don't even know what what does he do.
Speaker 3: I can't even tell you what he does other than
Speaker 3: he's like a henchman. Yeah. The big twist is that
Speaker 3: Charlie is Joe Merchant, crazy not dead, and that is
Speaker 3: discovered because he plays music at a bar that they're
Speaker 3: all so how that's realized.
Speaker 2: So we're first introduced to this character when he hijacks
Speaker 2: Frank Bama's plane, right, and that's a fun little scene.
Speaker 2: Frank is kind of unfazed by being hijacked. He's just like, huh,
Speaker 2: I guess I'm hijacked now, yeah for you, Yeah, it
Speaker 2: really is. And then a whole thing happens where he
Speaker 2: and Trevor separated. She gets kidnapped, she gets told basically
Speaker 2: to like walk the plank by her cousin. Who oh.
Speaker 2: By the way, she thought her mom had killed herself
Speaker 2: and that was really upsetting because of course her brother
Speaker 2: was believed to have died by suicide. But really it's
Speaker 2: this evil cousin, Hackney Primstone, and he wanted to be
Speaker 2: He wanted to be the heir to the hemorrhoid ointment fame. Anyway,
Speaker 2: Trevor and Frank get back together because Frank happens to
Speaker 2: be flying over the ocean that Trevor is stranded in,
Speaker 2: and a favorite part of the book is she is
Speaker 2: like an environmentalist, but then she is saved by floating
Speaker 2: trash bags, which is funny.
Speaker 3: I couldn't understand how that happened when it was described,
Speaker 3: but I you know, that's fun.
Speaker 2: It is fun. It was like blown up with air.
Speaker 2: I'm done realistic, but I'll take it, and yeah, pollution.
Speaker 2: And then they are at a concert and the Charlie
Speaker 2: is in this band and he's playing and he closes
Speaker 2: his eyes and he has those tattoos. But also Trevor recognizes.
Speaker 2: She's like, that's my brother.
Speaker 3: Oh my first time those two characters see each other.
Speaker 3: Because if those two characters had seen each other earlier,
Speaker 3: he would have the book wouldn't have had it would
Speaker 3: have been done because she would have been like, oh
Speaker 3: that that guy who's saying he's Charlie is my brother.
Speaker 6: Wouild it?
Speaker 2: I mean, maybe it explained it and I missed it.
Speaker 2: How did Frank not recognize him?
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know. No, I don't know.
Speaker 3: He's a famous person. I don't understand. I don't understand
Speaker 3: anything about this twist. Like I don't under and I'm
Speaker 3: I asking, honest, if somebody can explain it to me,
Speaker 3: I'd really appreciate it. Basically, from what I understand, the
Speaker 3: background on this character Joe Merchant is, you know, his parents.
Speaker 3: You know, he's got a sister, Trevor. His parents wanted
Speaker 3: him to do the navy and stuff and put him
Speaker 3: in like I don't know, army school or something, and
Speaker 3: he hated it, and he eventually like bucked that and
Speaker 3: became a rock star. But then he became disillusions somehow,
Speaker 3: don't know how this happened, and he got he decided
Speaker 3: he wanted to be a pirate. But like I was
Speaker 3: confused because it was like, oh, apparently this guy hates authority.
Speaker 3: Like it's felt like they said when they gave the
Speaker 3: background of Joe Merchant, that was like part of his deal.
Speaker 3: And then it's like but then he started working for
Speaker 3: some other kernel guy, Like I was like, wait, it
Speaker 3: just seems like that doesn't make any sense. But also
Speaker 3: like he would just be he would choose a job
Speaker 3: where he like becomes some sort of super soldier turned
Speaker 3: into a super soldier who changes his name, Like I
Speaker 3: don't understan I don't understand. I mean, this was maybe
Speaker 3: in the book. I don't understand why or when it happened.
Speaker 3: And then didn't want to tell anyone. I didn't want
Speaker 3: to tell sister he was still alive. I don't I
Speaker 3: don't know why. And then but then some reason was
Speaker 3: like I don't want to do work for Colonel Chiro anymore,
Speaker 3: but I still don't want to see Trevor.
Speaker 4: I don't is everyone following?
Speaker 3: Was everyone following? I don't understand. Can someone explain?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 14: Why why didn't he ever?
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 14: Why didn't he want to see Trevor?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know what motivates Joe Merchant.
Speaker 3: I don't understand.
Speaker 4: I don't know enough about Joe to understand his internal
Speaker 4: be called.
Speaker 2: Why why why Merchant?
Speaker 3: Why did he become another human? Like why did he
Speaker 3: take on? Like I was like, does he have split personality?
Speaker 3: Something happening? No, No, nothing was explained. It didn't ever
Speaker 3: make sense.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he like it was in the story where
Speaker 2: he remembered that he was Joe Merchant, like he didn't
Speaker 2: know that information. Then he was on a plane and
Speaker 2: then one of his songs was playing, and then he's.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he says that he's like I'm gonna shoot the oh,
Speaker 3: I'm going to shoot the radio that has played my song,
Speaker 3: or that he didn't say that, but like in retrospect,
Speaker 3: I'm like, did he know? And he was like, fucking
Speaker 3: I hate my old music. Is that like a joke
Speaker 3: about like hating hearing your own songs? Or was he
Speaker 3: not really know who that was?
Speaker 4: I was?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just have a feeling that Jimmy Buffett does not
Speaker 1: hate hearing his own songs, and that might be based
Speaker 1: in part on these series of Margaritaville's that he built
Speaker 1: that play only his music all over the country, but
Speaker 1: even beyond that, I just like feel like that's just
Speaker 1: not a man that's ever bummed to hear cheeseburger in Paradise.
Speaker 2: Cheeseburger, This feels like a club.
Speaker 14: I'm not included in prod head business.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, I Clara, I don't don't get it.
Speaker 14: I don't understand what the hell is cheeseburger in Paradise.
Speaker 14: What are we talking about?
Speaker 16: It's I I know that I don't know talking about.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 2: It's actually pretty self explained.
Speaker 3: It's he's really just talking about food.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's just talking about loving how sometimes you just
Speaker 1: really want a cheeseburger.
Speaker 14: Yeah, he's already in Paradise. And then that's what they are.
Speaker 1: Well, he's saying he was on a diet, was he
Speaker 1: was losing weight, he was he was eating some about that,
Speaker 1: and then you know, all of a sudden, he just
Speaker 1: needed a cheeseburger and the new Paradise has cheeseburgers. Back
Speaker 1: in the day, you know, a sea captain wouldn't be
Speaker 1: able to get a cheeseburger.
Speaker 4: Not in Paradise. You're stuck with whatever gruel they serve.
Speaker 2: You know, find the two best things.
Speaker 5: Yea.
Speaker 3: You know what I like Margaritaville. I'll say it. I
Speaker 3: like that song.
Speaker 6: I like.
Speaker 3: I think it's clever, clever, the writing, it's fun how
Speaker 3: it's at the end, it's like, oh, two people were
Speaker 3: writing you know what do you call them ads to
Speaker 3: find people? And then they ended up finding each other
Speaker 3: and they were already together.
Speaker 2: It was that's that's a Rupert Holmes song.
Speaker 3: Am I getting I'm getting songs confused?
Speaker 4: Well, yeah you are. Margaritaville is uh.
Speaker 1: Some people claim that there's a woman to blame, but
Speaker 1: I know it's my own damn fault.
Speaker 2: You're thinking of the pinaka.
Speaker 3: I am.
Speaker 4: If you like Pina coladas, if you like.
Speaker 3: That song is a good song, I'm a Rupert Holmes head.
Speaker 3: I'll tell you that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of people think that that's a Jimmy Buffetts.
Speaker 3: You know that. You know that we say that.
Speaker 2: People think that it's marketing.
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 3: Maybe I I know less about the song Margharita Bill Okay.
Speaker 2: Previously, ok okay.
Speaker 4: It's someone who's in despair.
Speaker 1: They're like, a woman did this to this guy, and
Speaker 1: he's like a lot of.
Speaker 3: Songs so good. I was saying that was Jimmy Buffett,
Speaker 3: and now I'm thinking less Jimmy. I'm saying, I'm just
Speaker 3: now I'm like, well, who the fuck is this guy?
Speaker 3: Based everything around that goddamn song?
Speaker 2: Okay, you definitely do know Margarita Bell, like, did you
Speaker 2: recognize the tune in the in the Summer?
Speaker 4: I thought it was okay, you know that.
Speaker 2: One goes if you like Pina cola, it is also.
Speaker 17: A fun wait that okay, that's so no, Oh my god,
Speaker 17: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't know Jimmy Buffett. I don't I don't understand him.
Speaker 2: Okay, this is kind of crazy to me that you
Speaker 2: have like like lived with parrot heads and don't know.
Speaker 3: You know, nobody forced me on. It was not forced on.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I just feel Dan Miller, Dan Miller's
Speaker 3: who I like more associate with putting it on. But
Speaker 3: it's not something I just thought, Oh, look at him.
Speaker 3: This is so western Pennsylvania.
Speaker 2: Which is where Jo and I are both.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it feels like a we we don't live
Speaker 3: near the ocean, so let's pretend we do. That's what
Speaker 3: it felt like to me at that time, Like.
Speaker 2: Listen, here's something I'll say about Jimmy Buffett's music, and
Speaker 2: to a degree, this book. I feel like there is
Speaker 2: this escapism to it, and it feels light and airy,
Speaker 2: and it feels tropical like.
Speaker 3: And it felt tropical.
Speaker 2: Story was chaotic. I felt transported.
Speaker 3: I felt I was impressed, you know what. It was
Speaker 3: obvious to me that he could fly planes, because he
Speaker 3: had a lot of information in there that felt grounded
Speaker 3: and real.
Speaker 2: When we compliment to a book, plate obvious to me
Speaker 2: that the author knew how to fly.
Speaker 3: It was it makes sense. It makes sense, but other
Speaker 3: stuff I don't know. It wasn't into the alien stuff.
Speaker 3: That didn't seem to make any difference. There was like
Speaker 3: a little too looks associative.
Speaker 1: It goes a long way, and I think we know
Speaker 1: that in his music, and we know that now after
Speaker 1: reading a book. We probably didn't need a whole book.
Speaker 2: But I bet the short stories, the collection of tales
Speaker 2: from Margueritaville, I bet that's really good.
Speaker 3: I could see that being better than this, just just
Speaker 3: based on right sustain a plot for that long, it'd
Speaker 3: be better.
Speaker 2: Have you guys ever read the book Insane City by
Speaker 2: Dave Barry?
Speaker 4: I have you know?
Speaker 2: It felt kind of like that, But if Jimmy Buffett
Speaker 2: wrote it.
Speaker 1: It reminded me a little bit of the books that
Speaker 1: Jack Handy writes as well.
Speaker 4: Jackie felt, I was.
Speaker 14: I had that because he has an island one.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's part of it, but also it was a
Speaker 1: dream of consciousness and like, but I.
Speaker 14: Like the way Jack Candy does okay, and I hate
Speaker 14: the way did it. So I just want to make
Speaker 14: sure there's.
Speaker 3: I also I got feelings of like, I guess who
Speaker 3: does catch Joseph Joseph Heller like it gave me. It
Speaker 3: kind of gave me those vibes a little bit too,
Speaker 3: except for obviously worse, but like what was except for
Speaker 3: than like some person satire based something, but you know,
Speaker 3: like it was going to go in that direction or something.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just want you to know.
Speaker 1: I opened my event my Spotify by the way, just
Speaker 1: to be like, do I listen to Jimmy Buffett.
Speaker 4: It's my number one radio station.
Speaker 3: No shut up.
Speaker 1: Buffett Radio is at the top of Spotify right now
Speaker 1: and it is from this book I Am shook.
Speaker 4: I know.
Speaker 2: How often do you use Spotify?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's it, mostly totally when you're in the beach to.
Speaker 4: Mostly to listen.
Speaker 1: To murders and oh great new podcast out by the
Speaker 1: makers of Scamander called check it out Unicorn Girl.
Speaker 3: I will writing it down.
Speaker 4: That's it's real fun. And yeah, that's pretty much.
Speaker 14: Just so, maybe you just need a little pick me up,
Speaker 14: a little brighter side of life after some murder podcasts.
Speaker 14: I might go to Jimmy Buffett.
Speaker 4: A pirate looks at forty Yeah, maybe so.
Speaker 14: I know Marguerite Deville from The Simpsons, the drunk Barney
Speaker 14: is singing it all drunk and he does the searching
Speaker 14: for my little shaker of salt and he's like, oh,
Speaker 14: here it is, and then he pours it down his throat.
Speaker 14: It's very funny. So that's very funny.
Speaker 3: I do love how everything cultural that you understand runs
Speaker 3: through Simpsons.
Speaker 4: I do appreciate it.
Speaker 14: Imagine growing up like that, and then when you see
Speaker 14: the like original that the Simpsons are based on, and
Speaker 14: you're like, Simpsons didn't think of that. That's how I've
Speaker 14: grown up.
Speaker 3: I understand that I've made.
Speaker 1: Another horrifying discovery on my phone. I promised, this has
Speaker 1: nothing to do with the book that we read, but I.
Speaker 2: Said, my, what a funny thing to promise.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I don't know if it's for the book,
Speaker 1: but I have two alarms on my phone. One is
Speaker 1: my wake up alarm and one is just to remind
Speaker 1: her if I haven't left work yet, I need to
Speaker 1: leave to pick up my child, and I set them
Speaker 1: to play music.
Speaker 4: And I don't know if you can see this, but
Speaker 4: the radio stations.
Speaker 2: Wow, that's probably why it's the number one radio.
Speaker 3: No there, it's in her alarm that explains it. But weird,
Speaker 3: but weird, but okay, so.
Speaker 4: I guess I'm like pretty big fan.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 16: I honestly, you guys know that you have that enabled
Speaker 16: John went at the beginning when you and Sabrina were
Speaker 16: like going back and forth over who's the biggest parent head,
Speaker 16: I feel like that would have been you could have
Speaker 16: led with that.
Speaker 2: No, but what I'm saying is it seems like she's
Speaker 2: discovering it now, okay, and so therefore it's just something
Speaker 2: that she fell into.
Speaker 3: I don't know how to me. I feel like she's
Speaker 3: so deep in parrot head that it's like to to
Speaker 3: the idea that like she could wake up without Jimmy
Speaker 3: Buffett is just like so foreign and weird that she
Speaker 3: didn't even consider it. The truth.
Speaker 14: The whole thing is so weird. I can't even I
Speaker 14: can't even the truth is your boat scene right when.
Speaker 1: The episode started, we argue about who's a better parentad
Speaker 1: I was like joking, I was like, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I like Jimmy Buffett a little bit, Like I like
Speaker 1: four songs. I was like, I'm not the bigger parrot
Speaker 1: let's be honest. And now I am like, I.
Speaker 2: Am like a pig fan and now it's my identity.
Speaker 5: Yeah, like I.
Speaker 1: Guess this means a whole lot to me in ways
Speaker 1: I didn't understand.
Speaker 3: All right, well, please don't let that influence your hate rates.
Speaker 4: It's gonna need to Sarah.
Speaker 5: I'm a pretty big fan, all right.
Speaker 3: Is there anything else we want to talk about?
Speaker 14: No?
Speaker 3: I can't.
Speaker 2: I can't think of anything.
Speaker 4: I just want to leave now. Ay, I think about something.
Speaker 3: Okay, let's see good reads five star reviews. Okay, go ahead, Sabri.
Speaker 2: Oh, that's me. I was just thinking about if there
Speaker 2: were any topics that we had not said. And one
Speaker 2: thing I, as a literary criticism, wanted to offer was
Speaker 2: the female characters not well developed except for like, Okay,
Speaker 2: Trevor Kane is the real person, not super well developed.
Speaker 2: She's also ridiculous. She got mad at Frank because he
Speaker 2: didn't come find her sooner and he was like, my
Speaker 2: plane was hijacked and she was like, that is no excuse.
Speaker 2: And if that's not a girlfriend, I don't know what is.
Speaker 2: But other than that, she was pretty flat. And Desdemona
Speaker 2: was quite the developed character, but she had as like
Speaker 2: a woman. She was developed as a crazy and developed broad.
Speaker 3: And also Dedemona was really big and voluptuous. That's how
Speaker 3: we know about her shere memos.
Speaker 1: Love.
Speaker 3: I think it passed the Bechdel test though, because they
Speaker 3: would talk about aliens and other things that were so
Speaker 3: fucking weird.
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, but it's also like, were they even
Speaker 2: big enough characters to apply the Bechdel test to?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 2: Actually, yeah, de Deemona was a pretty big character.
Speaker 3: Look, it's fair, that's fair.
Speaker 2: But anyway, that's my literary criticism. But people who didn't
Speaker 2: have anything to criticize these good reads five star reviews.
Speaker 2: Zach Johnson said, is this objectively five stars?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 2: Was I going to get? Was I going to give
Speaker 2: anything less to a Jimmy Buffett author book about warlords,
Speaker 2: beach bars, and flying seaplanes around the Caribbean? Also now
Speaker 2: or Caribbean If you're drama, jar Patterson said, if you
Speaker 2: have any sense of island adventure anywhere in you, this
Speaker 2: story will take you into Jimmy's world and leave you
Speaker 2: wanting more. This is one story that you that should
Speaker 2: have never ended. Okay, I read these years ago and
Speaker 2: I'm still left wanting.
Speaker 3: One because there's not a real ending.
Speaker 2: That might be why you don't have to be a
Speaker 2: die hard parrot head to get taken into this magical
Speaker 2: world where pages come alive and take you beyond where
Speaker 2: you are into a far far better place. I still
Speaker 2: miss being there. It's crazy to say, a far far
Speaker 2: better place. Like they're being kidnapped, high jacked, and bond
Speaker 2: people were being shot and murdered.
Speaker 1: You're not understanding how beautiful the Florida Keys are. Okay,
Speaker 1: you're underestimating. Okay, it doesn't none of that stuff, Manders,
Speaker 1: It's just so.
Speaker 14: Is so beautiful.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's fair. I've never been there too.
Speaker 4: I'd like to get us all there very soon.
Speaker 3: All right, well, okay, I think we should all go there. Okay,
Speaker 3: that sounds great.
Speaker 14: It's going to be human.
Speaker 2: Clara, and finally, Heather O'Brien said, I loved this book
Speaker 2: so much. As if it's not enough that I adore
Speaker 2: Jimmy Buffett's music, he had to go and become a
Speaker 2: great storyteller too. Man, wish he'd write more like this.
Speaker 2: Adored it made me want to move to Florida even
Speaker 2: more than I already do.
Speaker 3: Wow, wasn't I mean? I guess some of it took
Speaker 3: place in Florida, but you know, yeah, Okay, But like
Speaker 3: Florida is the closest we're going to get to.
Speaker 2: Caribbean vibes.
Speaker 1: Oh, if you're looking for more Caribbean vibes, by the way,
Speaker 1: bad Monkey, real fun book about the Florida Keys. Obviously
Speaker 1: you can go with the classic Hemingway. Uh and no
Speaker 1: bloodlines wat TV.
Speaker 14: Oh yeah, blood I did think about bloodlines a lot.
Speaker 4: If you're just if you're pound of God about blood
Speaker 4: line in there? It feels so good.
Speaker 3: I got another. I just just found I have another
Speaker 3: fact about this book, okay or Jimmy buff it, And
Speaker 3: it's maybe an out of date fact, but I'm so
Speaker 3: can read anyway. Only six, possibly more, but as of
Speaker 3: this when this was written, only six authors have reached
Speaker 3: number one on both fiction and non fiction lists. Can
Speaker 3: you guys, do you guys want to guess?
Speaker 2: Brad Meltzer, Stephen King?
Speaker 3: I guess I can't really do this because I don't
Speaker 3: know if these people. I'll just tell you the people
Speaker 3: that ass of this writing head. It was Ernest Hemingway,
Speaker 3: John Steinbeck, William Styron, Irving Wallace, doctor Seuss, and me
Speaker 3: Buffin no way, all men, huh.
Speaker 1: Number one on the fiction and nonfiction Bestsellers list.
Speaker 4: I want to know where you getting your facts?
Speaker 3: Uh, Denver Post. This is from a Denver Post article,
Speaker 3: so they wouldn't lie.
Speaker 2: It's my most trusted news source, the Posts.
Speaker 4: I'm doing my own research.
Speaker 3: But I'm saying it's probably from also something that was
Speaker 3: written probably in like ninety five, so that's where or
Speaker 3: whenever his second book came off that? When did his
Speaker 3: other book came out? Oh? Whatever, this book.
Speaker 14: I'll try to talk to fill the gap.
Speaker 3: Leaders He rates Clara.
Speaker 14: Yeah, I'll do it rates one out of five.
Speaker 3: Mm.
Speaker 14: Okay, it's going to lose points for being difficult to
Speaker 14: find audiobook read it to me.
Speaker 3: You got to wait, Claire, we miss this, Okay, we
Speaker 3: missed this.
Speaker 14: Yeah, I missed how you read it? But I have
Speaker 14: a good I want you know, Internet archive. Yeah, they
Speaker 14: had several copies of book and they have an option
Speaker 14: to have the book read too by a robot.
Speaker 2: Okay, when do you have to pay for a thing
Speaker 2: in the thread about?
Speaker 13: Well?
Speaker 14: I forgot about it. Oh yeah, I don't know. Everybody
Speaker 14: already had copies of it.
Speaker 3: But I still had my copy and I didn't want
Speaker 3: to read it. I didn't want to read and I
Speaker 3: wanted to listen to it, so I still would have
Speaker 3: done as upsetting.
Speaker 14: We have to keep the page open. It's not easy,
Speaker 14: she says, things like putting instead of putting the episode off.
Speaker 2: Do you know how many robots I've listened to read books?
Speaker 14: Well, yes, you I don't know. All right, Well, sorry
Speaker 14: I didn't tell you, guys, but that's what I did.
Speaker 14: It was pretty last minute, so I figured you guys
Speaker 14: had already read it and already dealt with it.
Speaker 3: Wow, you don't know us well enough that, yeah, but
Speaker 3: it wasn't yeah, too hard, too much, you know.
Speaker 14: Just let me fucking press a few buttons and get
Speaker 14: an audiobook, proper audio book. And then again, I like
Speaker 14: that feeling of being left out of the club, out
Speaker 14: of the Why are they called paradiads? Even you have
Speaker 14: this cool relaxing thing and I don't. I don't get
Speaker 14: it made me feel good. I want to relax at
Speaker 14: the beach and so getting sand in my shoes and
Speaker 14: worrying about a sunburn and things like that.
Speaker 3: Oh, you don't get if you don't enjoy the beach,
Speaker 3: is that what you mean? You don't get?
Speaker 14: No, No, I like the beach. I just I'm not
Speaker 14: the beach Club's not it feels like I'm missing out
Speaker 14: on something.
Speaker 4: I think you feel like.
Speaker 3: I love the beach, but I'm not a parade. I
Speaker 3: feel confident on my beach.
Speaker 14: He makes me feel like I'm missing out on something
Speaker 14: at the beach. Okay, all right, fair, that's rude. One
Speaker 14: out of five. It gives a point for I don't know.
Speaker 10: I don't know.
Speaker 14: Kind of had a sunset cover, which is nice. Oh
Speaker 14: my god, now I'm talking about the cover.
Speaker 2: Judge a book by its cover.
Speaker 3: Oh you know what I found something that I wrote
Speaker 3: is funny. He had opened an amusement park called cat
Speaker 3: World across from the Disney Complex in Orlando. Disgruntled parents
Speaker 3: leaving the Magic Kingdom could vent their frustrations by feeding
Speaker 3: live mice and Mickey Mouse outfits to large, ravenous cats.
Speaker 3: The Disney Corporation was suing him.
Speaker 2: I thought that was that's funny.
Speaker 3: I'm going to give it also one out of five.
Speaker 3: Whoa yeah, I I mean yeah, big reasons. I hated
Speaker 3: this paper book and that I had to read it.
Speaker 3: It's so hard to get I I feel like there
Speaker 3: was a chunk of it that got kind of interesting
Speaker 3: where things were action things were happening, but it was
Speaker 3: so too many characters didn't understand the point of anything.
Speaker 3: It felt like it was trying to be clever without
Speaker 3: actually ever, you know, hitting the mark. So and I
Speaker 3: just did not like the alien stuff. So one out
Speaker 3: of five.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna give it a three out of five. It
Speaker 2: does lose points for being difficult to access. It also
Speaker 2: loses points for being confusing, but it gets points for
Speaker 2: being a like. I thought it was kind of a romp.
Speaker 2: I didn't hate reading it. It honestly felt like Jimmy
Speaker 2: Buffett wrote a book, and I like Jimmy Buffett and
Speaker 2: books are okay, So combine those two things three out
Speaker 2: of five.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is tough for me because obviously I'm you know, giant,
Speaker 1: huge fan, and I do love just generally the Buffet
Speaker 1: lifestyle books set on the beach, books set in the Caribbean.
Speaker 1: For sure, I'm gonna get into that vibe. I have
Speaker 1: to market down for being hard to find. That really
Speaker 1: sent me into a tail spin, made this unenjoyable reading experience,
Speaker 1: But overall, like the book didn't harm me in any way,
Speaker 1: didn't hurt.
Speaker 4: Me, didn't make me angry.
Speaker 2: Three out of five, three out of five. Okay, yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: Now that that's done, I'm immediately ready to go into
Speaker 2: Little Fucker, and my Little Fucker is claira okay, because
Speaker 2: to find effectively an audio book, yeah, and not disclosed
Speaker 2: that on the thread where it had been.
Speaker 4: Discussed, we couldn't find that we were.
Speaker 2: We were struggling. We all had to have this hical book. Yes,
Speaker 2: doesn't matter. Do you know when I read most of
Speaker 2: this book?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 14: I didn't yesterday and today apologize. I apologize.
Speaker 2: It's always going to be the twenty four hours before.
Speaker 14: I'm a little ashamed that I had left it for
Speaker 14: so late. That was probably went into not telling you guys.
Speaker 2: You could you could have even recovered ready, you could
Speaker 2: have said, you could have said, I'm three quarters of
Speaker 2: the way through. But I happened to now find that
Speaker 2: would I covered it?
Speaker 14: No, I didn't. Honestly, I didn't even think to tell
Speaker 14: you guys. I forgot ges were That's hing honest about it.
Speaker 2: So you're my vote, little fuck it?
Speaker 14: Okay, easy, I've.
Speaker 1: Got a vote, and it's for Sarah for bringing up
Speaker 1: her little nonfiction fiction fact. It's really set me on
Speaker 1: a tail spin. My first guest was Brad Meltzer. He
Speaker 1: is a number one New York Times fiction author, and
Speaker 1: I know he writes a lot of nonfiction. The closest
Speaker 1: I've found is that one of his books was at
Speaker 1: number two nonfiction, another was at number three. I haven't
Speaker 1: given up that he is this is what you're on,
Speaker 1: but it's like all I've been doing since that was said. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I didn't say, this is my little far and I
Speaker 1: didn't want to do this. I'm not having fun. I
Speaker 1: would have rather participated the conversation. Instead, I've been I've
Speaker 1: been not listening. I've been online, I've been googling, trying
Speaker 1: not to type loud so it doesn't come up on
Speaker 1: the podcast.
Speaker 4: And that just completely sucks.
Speaker 6: So thanks a lot, Sara, all right, fair, Sorry, I
Speaker 6: shared it.
Speaker 3: Hard for me. I had the same reaction Sabrina where
Speaker 3: Claris gave that fact and I immediately thought, little fucker you,
Speaker 3: little Johnna just did that. It does make me want
Speaker 3: to snap back at her. And she did have that
Speaker 3: stupid information about the alarm, which is so stupid. I'm
Speaker 3: gonna I'm gonna go with Johnna.
Speaker 14: Wow, Johnna and her up so stupid.
Speaker 3: I don't know, it's it's it's it's weird to have
Speaker 3: an artist as you're number one on Spotify and not
Speaker 3: like know how into them you are, and then also
Speaker 3: read book by them and like not even care. So
Speaker 3: little fucker's Johnna.
Speaker 4: Come out of nowhere.
Speaker 14: I'm sort of mad at all of you for making
Speaker 14: fun of my music. Some neutral stance on.
Speaker 3: Neutral Milcot.
Speaker 14: I think that's stupid. I don't know what they do
Speaker 14: for music, so it's really hard to choose. I guess
Speaker 14: I'll go with Sabrina in retaliation.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's crazy because I'm the prettiest princess obviously, because.
Speaker 3: Wait, what are our votes? Now? Me?
Speaker 2: We're all we're this is a this is done before.
Speaker 3: We're all little fuckers of the cast.
Speaker 14: I'm sure, I don't know.
Speaker 3: It just doesn't feel right to say we're all little fuckers.
Speaker 6: I guess we're all little fuck It's shocking, huh.
Speaker 4: We usually all right? Well don't we usually one person? Okay?
Speaker 2: I I feel betrayed that I wasn't followed and I
Speaker 2: won't forget.
Speaker 3: Okay, I see that I take that attack on me,
Speaker 3: and I'm I'm at you know, I'm didn't fall I feel.
Speaker 4: I could have followed easily, but I felt like you
Speaker 4: I easily.
Speaker 14: This seems like unnecessary. We have done pretty Pretty Princess,
Speaker 14: I vote myself.
Speaker 3: It is so stupid.
Speaker 2: You can't vote for yourself in this particular episode because
Speaker 2: you're not a paradet, right, that's.
Speaker 14: The rule of this So when was that established?
Speaker 3: Just now?
Speaker 1: Unfortunately, guys, you guys, remember you can make up one
Speaker 1: new rule, this one.
Speaker 3: I don't know why I'm telling you how Pretty Little
Speaker 3: Princess works. Why do I know?
Speaker 4: And I hate this.
Speaker 14: My new rule is that the Pretty Princess has diary,
Speaker 14: and I.
Speaker 2: It's pretty I already, I already I beat you to
Speaker 2: the rule.
Speaker 14: But jokes, no, you know, I'll just let us know
Speaker 14: if you get diary in the next twenty four.
Speaker 2: If I do, you're gonna feel pretty bad.
Speaker 14: That's true, all right, guys.
Speaker 2: I hope I do.
Speaker 11: I hope I didn't.
Speaker 3: I don't think it's worth it, all right, guys.
Speaker 1: Next week we are reading Beautiful Ugly and we're gonna
Speaker 1: have a guest join us and we're really excited.
Speaker 4: And that's it. We'll see you soon. Huh.
Speaker 2: That sounds good. I like that, Okay.
Speaker 4: I don't know what to do. Sarah stood up for
Speaker 4: a second walked away. I don't know if she's mad
Speaker 4: at me.
Speaker 2: I couldn't tell what's going on.
Speaker 4: We're just saying we wrap up.
Speaker 6: We wrapped it up, all right.
Speaker 2: Do you guys talk about patreo.
Speaker 3: That's very pleasing to me. Patreon, please become a patron
Speaker 3: of the mean arts. Please? What are you waving?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 3: We are, we are we giving them bookmarks? Did you
Speaker 3: make bookmarks?
Speaker 2: No, it's from the library, like a flag to get
Speaker 2: for what?
Speaker 3: For what?
Speaker 2: For what purposea.
Speaker 18: You guys don't usually comment on my little behaviors, you know,
Speaker 18: like I struggle to sit still for this song.
Speaker 2: So at the end of the episode, I'm always making
Speaker 2: a lot of movements. I'm putting little filters.
Speaker 15: On, like.
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, guys, Uh, please turn our Patreon. Please
Speaker 3: vote on the on the bracket which we referenced earlier.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, Claire, we didn't even tell you. We'll
Speaker 3: tell you after we say goodbye. Okay, we'll tell you
Speaker 3: we got some news for you. But uh, we're so excited.
Speaker 3: We'll see you next week. Bye everyone. By A