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<v Speaker 1>It's Nightside with Dan Ray on WBS Boston's news radio.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Nicole, thank you very much. Happy weekend to you,

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<v Speaker 2>and TGIF to all our listeners and callers. We still

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<v Speaker 2>have four hours of Nightside. We will take you all

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<v Speaker 2>the way to the cusp of Saturday morning, so stay

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<v Speaker 2>with us. We have four interesting guests this hour and

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<v Speaker 2>we are going to talk about the political story of

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<v Speaker 2>the day. Seems as if every day it's a different

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<v Speaker 2>political story. Yesterday it was the acceptance speech by Vice

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<v Speaker 2>President Harris at the Democratic National Convention. Today, Robert F.

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<v Speaker 2>Kennedy Junior, as had been predicted and speculated upon, has

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<v Speaker 2>endorsed the candidacy of Republican former President Donald Trump and

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<v Speaker 2>has just finished speaking at a rally that Trump is

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<v Speaker 2>holding in Glendale, Arizona. So this is it's gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>a really interesting race. Another little twist in the road.

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<v Speaker 2>But before we get to all of that, let me

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<v Speaker 2>remind you that Marita worked on today's show, and Rob

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<v Speaker 2>is on top of his tonight ready to take all

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<v Speaker 2>your phone calls, but not until after nine o'clock because

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<v Speaker 2>we have four guests that we want to hear from.

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<v Speaker 2>And I hope you want to hear from as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Going to start off with Scott Alan Curly and Scott

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<v Speaker 2>Alan Curley. Welcome to Night's Side. You're an expert on mindset,

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<v Speaker 2>mind set and resilience, but you're also a former prison

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<v Speaker 2>inmate now a self made millionaire in one of the

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<v Speaker 2>nation's most unlikely and successful entrepreneurs. Sounds like you've got

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<v Speaker 2>quite a story.

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<v Speaker 1>It's well, first, let me thank you for thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for having me, Dan, It's such a pleasure. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's been it's definitely been a roller coaster ride, but

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<v Speaker 1>one that I'm still on.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Well, yeah, we all have roller coaster. We have

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<v Speaker 2>ups and downs in our lives, and anyone who is

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<v Speaker 2>able to get themselves squared away is a real asset.

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<v Speaker 2>In my book, you wrote a book called Absolution The

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<v Speaker 2>Dark Path to Light, and that does kind of say

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<v Speaker 2>it all. If I could just ask you how long

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<v Speaker 2>we inside.

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<v Speaker 1>The wall, Well, my trouble started. I know we don't

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<v Speaker 1>have very long, so I'll give you the elevator. Elevator

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<v Speaker 1>pitch on that s Okay. My legal trouble started right

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<v Speaker 1>after high school. Pretty much I lived really growing up

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<v Speaker 1>was pretty pretty tough, and I started hourly right afterwards,

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<v Speaker 1>and to answer a question all after it was all

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<v Speaker 1>said and done, I spent about ten years in prison.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm glad you're out. You sound like a pretty

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<v Speaker 2>sharp guy, and I think, you know, sometimes people don't

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<v Speaker 2>realize how good they can have it until maybe they've

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<v Speaker 2>experienced some tough times. And it sounds to me like

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<v Speaker 2>you've survived and now you prosper. So the subject we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to talk about is how many bad days do

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<v Speaker 2>Americans have per month? When you're in prison, there's not

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<v Speaker 2>too many good days. So you got a little expertise

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<v Speaker 2>on this, my friend. How did you come to this

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<v Speaker 2>issue determining a survey how many bad days to do

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<v Speaker 2>Americans have per month?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, my folks reached out to you regarding that, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm probably not it's probably not fair for us to

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<v Speaker 1>have this conversation. And I say that song and cheek,

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<v Speaker 1>because after you spent ten years in prison and have

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<v Speaker 1>gone through the things that I've gone through, then it's

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<v Speaker 1>very difficult for me to have a bad day.

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<v Speaker 2>I hear you. I think we're on the same page.

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<v Speaker 2>I kind of said the same thing in a different way.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, but you've got it. You've got a perspective

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<v Speaker 2>on this. What's the source of this information? Apparently there's

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<v Speaker 2>some sort of a survey that took place. How did

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<v Speaker 2>they do that?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I do have my pr Folks told me about

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<v Speaker 1>the survey, and I believe they filled it out on

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<v Speaker 1>my behalf and my'm understanding it correctly. But but yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>my perspective on bad days are relative. You know, we're

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<v Speaker 1>as humans. We all have some days or that are

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<v Speaker 1>better than others. There's a saying that goes I once

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<v Speaker 1>was sad because I had no shoes until I met

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<v Speaker 1>a man who had no feet. So so you know,

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<v Speaker 1>that may be cliche, but I really, in my heart

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<v Speaker 1>and soul lived by that. There. You know, it's always

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<v Speaker 1>it could always be so much worse, and so I

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<v Speaker 1>try to live my life by just having what's called

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<v Speaker 1>an attitude of gratitude. I say this to myself and

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<v Speaker 1>remind myself of this. Also, which is my worst day

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<v Speaker 1>out here on free ground is always better than my

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<v Speaker 1>best day in prison.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's interesting. I looked at this survey real quickly here,

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't want to dive too deeply into it

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<v Speaker 2>because frankly, I think you got and a more interesting story.

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<v Speaker 2>They did a survey of two thousand general general people Americans. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>they they concluded that the average American knows that it's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be a bad day by eight thirds six

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<v Speaker 2>a m. Now, I have no idea what that means.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And look, we all had bad days, we all

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<v Speaker 2>have great days. But I just think that for someone

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<v Speaker 2>like yourself who was able to bounce back from this,

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<v Speaker 2>I think, I think the flip side of your story.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't know if you're familiar with the case

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<v Speaker 2>of Aaron Hernandez was a football.

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<v Speaker 1>At the Patriots very much though, and I think I

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<v Speaker 1>know where you're going with this.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the point what I'm going is that you were

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<v Speaker 2>born in some difficult circumstances and you did. You had

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of mistakes. I don't need to go into

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<v Speaker 2>them or whatever, but that happened, and you paid you price.

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<v Speaker 2>Hernandez was blessed with talent, you know, a specific type

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<v Speaker 2>of gift which allowed him to become a top player

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<v Speaker 2>in the National Football League. But then he apparently a

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<v Speaker 2>legedly called into turned into a cold blow to murder

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<v Speaker 2>and ended up in jail. Threw it all away. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>if Aaron Hernandez hadn't made some really dumb and horrific mistakes,

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<v Speaker 2>he'd probably be retired a couple of years and going

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<v Speaker 2>around and the worst thing he'd have to do for

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<v Speaker 2>the rest of his life would be signed autographs and

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<v Speaker 2>be gain money for it. So, I mean, it's it's

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<v Speaker 2>sort of the mirror image of you. You went from

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<v Speaker 2>horrific circumstances to a much better place. He went from

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<v Speaker 2>enlightened and wonderful circumstances to a place where he finally

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't couldn't tolerate it, And allegedly.

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<v Speaker 1>It was definitely a sad story, and it's one that

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<v Speaker 1>we can all learn from. And in my opinion, it

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<v Speaker 1>comes all down to whether or not we choose to

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<v Speaker 1>be a victim, whether or not we're going to take

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<v Speaker 1>the victim stance. We all have been victimized at one

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<v Speaker 1>point in our lives. We cannot change that. We don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what Aaron went through, But we choose whether or

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<v Speaker 1>not we are going to be a victim. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's the key and all of it. Some people,

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<v Speaker 1>some of them, some folks unfortunately, just are kind of

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<v Speaker 1>quick to you know, uh ta, you have pity parties

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<v Speaker 1>and say woe with me, and when things go badly,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they kind of cover their head up. And

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<v Speaker 1>we've all, we've all been been guilty of that. And

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<v Speaker 1>but I encourage everyone that I speak with because this

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<v Speaker 1>is pretty it's pretty hot topic and talking point. I

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<v Speaker 1>travel the country and speak a lot about these type

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<v Speaker 1>of topics, especially one like this, and that that it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's all, it's all in the mindset. And I do believe,

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<v Speaker 1>which may sound a little weird to you, I do

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<v Speaker 1>believe that there are times when we it's okay to

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<v Speaker 1>give ourselves permission to feel sorry for ourselves. I do

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<v Speaker 1>believe that every now and then, if you just have

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<v Speaker 1>to feel sorry for yourself, and if you need to

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<v Speaker 1>have that pity party, then go ahead and have one,

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<v Speaker 1>but put a but put a deadline on it. But

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<v Speaker 1>then it put us put a start time on it,

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<v Speaker 1>and a start and at a stop time on it.

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<v Speaker 1>And when that, when your time has expired for that

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<v Speaker 1>that pity party to end, and it's time to get

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<v Speaker 1>back out there and take care of business.

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't agree with you more. I see that on

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<v Speaker 2>your website you're the co CEO of a group called

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<v Speaker 2>the finish line tax Solutions in LLC, and this organization's

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<v Speaker 2>committed helping clients take control of their tax problems, and

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<v Speaker 2>that obviously can be a can be a big problem.

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<v Speaker 2>You speak around the country, how can folks, First of all,

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<v Speaker 2>how can folks get your book? Because it sounds to

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<v Speaker 2>me like this book absolution. Everybody at different times needs absolution,

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<v Speaker 2>the dark path to light.

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<v Speaker 1>Agreed? Yeah, okay, how.

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<v Speaker 2>Can they get that first of all? And then how

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<v Speaker 2>can they be in contact if they'd like to have

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<v Speaker 2>you commit and speak to a school group, church group,

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever type of groups just be or corporate groups spare.

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<v Speaker 1>The book can be found on Amazon, Barnes Andnoble dot com,

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<v Speaker 1>in STEM stores pretty much anywhere book books are sold.

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<v Speaker 1>It's either going to be available in the store or

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<v Speaker 1>they'll be able to look it up and get it ordered,

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<v Speaker 1>or you can just order it on Amazon dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>And I can be found on Scott Alancurley dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>And I enjoy and love speaking especially to young people,

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<v Speaker 1>and I kind of have a passion for young entrepreneurs

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<v Speaker 1>and and and prisoners in me, folks who kind of

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<v Speaker 1>feel like they don't see a way out. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's where my passion lies. Because there's so much

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity and and and uh potential out there and so

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<v Speaker 1>many people sometimes they just need a little help to

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<v Speaker 1>to find it within themselves, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Real quickly. And and I don't want to belabor this,

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<v Speaker 2>but you you need to to realize what you are

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<v Speaker 2>able to accomplish. I'd love to suggest a book to you, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>just for the fun of it, I think you'll be

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<v Speaker 2>interested in. It's called Basketball Junkie. It was written by

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<v Speaker 2>a guy named Scott Chris Herron who was an NBA player,

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<v Speaker 2>played grew up here in New England, played for the Celtics,

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<v Speaker 2>got drafted by the Denver Rockets, and developed a bad

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<v Speaker 2>drug habit. Okay, basically you know, was a heroin addict

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<v Speaker 2>and washed out of the NBA. Went on to play

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<v Speaker 2>basketball overseas. He played in three countries in China, Iran,

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<v Speaker 2>and Turkey. And while he was in those three countries

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<v Speaker 2>playing you know, professional basketball, but not making anywhere nearest

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<v Speaker 2>the money, that near the money that he would have

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<v Speaker 2>made of the NBA, he had to score a heroin

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<v Speaker 2>every day. In China.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wow.

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<v Speaker 2>In Turkey, he's got his life Squared Away. I had

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<v Speaker 2>him on my show several years ago. Later that year,

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<v Speaker 2>he spoke to the incoming class of cadets at West Point.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you'd love the book, and I think that

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<v Speaker 2>you connect with him. Great guy. You remind me a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of him, A guy that really turned his life

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<v Speaker 2>around for the.

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<v Speaker 1>While heron author. And yeah, Basketball Junkie with Bill Reynolds

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<v Speaker 1>looks like his co author. And yeah, I definitely I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to be ordering it as soon as we get

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<v Speaker 1>off there.

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<v Speaker 2>All r. It's gott pleasure to meet you of the radio,

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<v Speaker 2>and I hope that some folks uh check you out

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<v Speaker 2>at Scott Alan Curley A L L E N Curly

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<v Speaker 2>c U R L E y uh and think about

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<v Speaker 2>getting you around to some schools and uh in places

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<v Speaker 2>where you can tell kids the road that they should

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<v Speaker 2>not take. Let's put it like that. I really appreciate

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate you having you bet you Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks very much, boy, that's inspiring. When we came back

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<v Speaker 2>on the lighting up a little bit, we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>So I we're gonna learn a little about Boston from

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<v Speaker 2>to us any night, any well, any any day during

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<v Speaker 2>Now back to Dan Ray line from the Window World

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<v Speaker 2>nights Side studios on WBZ the news radio. They sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>people who grew up in the Boston area never have

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<v Speaker 2>gone to Plymouth to see the Plymouth Rock. They're never

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<v Speaker 2>gone out to Concord and Lexington. You know, that's the story.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of tourists come to Boston and they see

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<v Speaker 2>all the tourists headlines. They have headlines they see the

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<v Speaker 2>Old North Church, Paul Revere's House. However, there is a

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<v Speaker 2>Secret Boston, and that Secret Boston is the subject of

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<v Speaker 2>a book, Secret Boston, An Unusual Guide, written by Kiernan Schmidt. Kiernan,

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to w BZ nightside. How are you this evening?

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<v Speaker 1>Great? How you doing?

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you so much for having me.

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<v Speaker 2>You're more than welcome. So tell us about Secret Boston.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been in Boston virtually my entire life, and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>certain there are some great places that I have never

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<v Speaker 2>gone or never seen. Although I would like to think

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<v Speaker 2>I've been everywhere, I know I haven't. So how did

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<v Speaker 2>you get involved in this task of not only writing

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<v Speaker 2>a book, but writing a book about Secret Boston. Tell

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I live in Somerville and I've been bopping around

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<v Speaker 4>Boston with a few years out here and there since

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<v Speaker 4>about two thousand and two. And I've been a traveler

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<v Speaker 4>through a lot of my life. And there's this book

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<v Speaker 4>series that I love called the Secret Guides. As you mentioned,

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<v Speaker 4>this is now the edition for Secret Boston, and it's

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<v Speaker 4>published by a French publishing house called Jean Glais Publishing.

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<v Speaker 4>And what I always found was that their guides, which

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<v Speaker 4>are huge in Europe and they're just starting to make

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<v Speaker 4>their way into the United States, they always had these

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<v Speaker 4>sites that you just could never find in any other

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<v Speaker 4>guide book. And it would be areas that you would

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<v Speaker 4>podcast called Out of Office where a friend and I

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<v Speaker 4>I had Thomas john Lay, the founder of Genreas Publishing

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<v Speaker 4>in Secret Guides on and I said, you know, I

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<v Speaker 4>know you featured New York. I know you're working on

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<v Speaker 4>LA and New Orleans, but I got to tell you Boston,

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<v Speaker 4>having the great hit long history we have here, these

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<v Speaker 4>world class universities, has what it takes to have the

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<v Speaker 4>most obscure of obscure sites that the Secret Guides try

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<v Speaker 4>to find. And he basically said, great, together a proposal,

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<v Speaker 4>you got three fall write ups and then a list

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<v Speaker 4>of thirty and that grew to about one hundred and

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<v Speaker 4>fifty secret places in the guide.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, give us four or five here. We don't have

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<v Speaker 2>five little bit of a taste of the book, which

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<v Speaker 2>will hopefully basically inspire people to go get the book.

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<v Speaker 2>Give us start or three that we might not know about.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well, there's lots all around them. Just to name

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<v Speaker 4>wouldn't blink twice, and behind it is the National Braille Press.

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<v Speaker 4>And this is one of the largest producers of braille books.

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<v Speaker 4>And they offer tours, but you have to know who

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<v Speaker 4>show you these enormous printing machines that they have that

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<v Speaker 4>can produce twenty thousand pages of brail per hour, and

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<v Speaker 4>they'll teach you about the art of brail bookmaking. And

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<v Speaker 4>all of them are bound by hand, many by blind

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<v Speaker 4>workers who are there. So it's incredibly moving, this hard

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<v Speaker 4>around the world and they are printed right here in Boston.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that a deezer? You gonna tell us the name

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<v Speaker 2>of the street?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh gosh, you know, I've got the book right here.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna have to look it up. I believe it

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<v Speaker 4>is called Saint Stephens Street.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, there is a Saint Stephen Street. Give us a

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<v Speaker 4>Well, there's a shop that is an industrial part of Summerville.

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<v Speaker 4>last shops in the United States that still produces genuine

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<v Speaker 4>neon signs. A lot of the neon science has sort

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<v Speaker 4>an enthusiast of neon signs. And they have an enormous

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<v Speaker 4>collection from all across the United States of great neon signs,

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<v Speaker 4>from motels to bar rooms to chicken places. And you

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, let me let me ask you one more. Boston's

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<v Speaker 2>a big sports town. Give us something sports related.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, let's see. Well, there's there's the Ted Williams seat

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<v Speaker 2>That's the red seat. Absolutely the red people.

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<v Speaker 4>What I think is unique in my book. Is I

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<v Speaker 4>dug up a historic photo of the guy who actually

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<v Speaker 4>got hit in the head with that ball and he's

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<v Speaker 4>holding his fingers through the straw hat that got a

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<v Speaker 4>giant hole in and I don't think that's been been

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<v Speaker 2>That's a great one. I can I can also show

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<v Speaker 2>you a street in a house on a little side

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<v Speaker 2>street in Brighton, which is a very assuming street where

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<v Speaker 2>one season Ted Williams lived.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, that can go in the second edition.

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<v Speaker 2>You got it, you got it all right. Kieran enjoyed

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<v Speaker 2>it a lot. Kieran Schmidt Again. The book is entitled

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<v Speaker 2>Secret Boston and Unusual Guide. I assume available Amazon bookstores.

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<v Speaker 4>What's the easiest, and it's in a lot of bookstores

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<v Speaker 2>Secret Boston, Unusual Guy and Unusual Guide. Kiernan, thank you

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<v Speaker 2>so much. Pleasure to meet you, and uh, keep checking

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<v Speaker 2>out and we'll do we'll do the second edition when

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<v Speaker 2>it comes out as well.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, awesome, thanks so much, Thanks.

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<v Speaker 2>Kieran, appreciate it. When we get back right after the news,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to talk about bad diners. No no, no, no, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>you're taking that wrong. There's no such thing as a

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<v Speaker 2>bad diner in my eyes. We're talking about diners people

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<v Speaker 2>the ten most offensive things that people do can do

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<v Speaker 2>at a restaurant. Okay, so it's the diners are great.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the people in those diners that that we're talking

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<v Speaker 2>about out back right after the news at the bottom

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<v Speaker 4>It's night on Boston's news radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks very much, Nicole. We are now delighted to welcome

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<v Speaker 2>to the show, Shariff Mityas Shariff, Welcome to night Side.

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<v Speaker 2>First of all, how are you tonight?

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<v Speaker 5>I'm doing great, Thanks for having me right and.

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<v Speaker 2>We're talking about bad diners. We're not talking about bad diners.

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<v Speaker 2>We're talking about bad people who go to these diners.

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<v Speaker 2>The ten most offensive things that people do in a restaurant,

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<v Speaker 2>according to a survey. Who did the survey? Tell us

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<v Speaker 2>about that?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, yeah, I was the truegov dot com survey in

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<v Speaker 5>the UK and they really I think they hit it.

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<v Speaker 5>They hit it pretty hard in terms of what we

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<v Speaker 5>don't like to see in restaurants.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, my mind is running is running away with me

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<v Speaker 2>right now. So these are British diners. So these are

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<v Speaker 2>not American diners we're talking about. But I assume the

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<v Speaker 2>bad habits of British diners a you know, coincide with

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<v Speaker 5>Is that that they do? And you can imagine some

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<v Speaker 5>of those things that you know you're you're not. You

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<v Speaker 5>don't show up for a reservation, you stay too long

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<v Speaker 5>at a table, you bring an outside food and wine

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<v Speaker 5>to a restaurant. Those are things that are happening both

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<v Speaker 5>in the UK and in the US.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so this is kind of interesting. So you we

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<v Speaker 2>have we have as you know, I mean, we have

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<v Speaker 2>restaurants in America where where there is no liquor served,

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<v Speaker 2>then you actually are encouraged. They may hit you with

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<v Speaker 2>a corkage fee or something like that if you bring

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<v Speaker 2>a bottle of wine. Of course, but I'm looking at

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<v Speaker 2>this list here, uh so I want to hit some

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<v Speaker 2>of them Flirting with the staff number ten? Who would

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<v Speaker 2>be is there who's normally guilty of that? Is that

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<v Speaker 2>something that I would I dare say, older men might

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<v Speaker 2>do with younger waitresses. Who's who who forces with the

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<v Speaker 2>staff is? Does this go across gender lines or is

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<v Speaker 2>it more a male thing.

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<v Speaker 5>It actually does go across gender lines. So you see

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<v Speaker 5>it and obviouslyeeing some old gentlemen, but there's a there's

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<v Speaker 5>a lot of women you'd like to sport with bartenders

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<v Speaker 5>as well, Dan, And so that's uh that it plays

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<v Speaker 5>on both sides of the fence. And okay, wow, No,

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<v Speaker 5>while we always wanted guests to enjoy themselves, we always

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<v Speaker 2>Got you, okay, occupy a table for an extended period

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<v Speaker 2>during busy hours. How do you know that you are

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<v Speaker 2>there at the table too long? If you know, let's

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<v Speaker 2>assume that you're just oblivious. How do you get it?

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<v Speaker 2>How does someone on the staff gently nudge you towards

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<v Speaker 2>towards the door.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, the best way to do it that we found is, uh,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, the server to come up stable and said,

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<v Speaker 5>we'd love to show you the kitchen, right, would love

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<v Speaker 5>to meet the chef. Right, So we get the table

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<v Speaker 5>off the table, right, We get the guests off the

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<v Speaker 2>That's that's a that's a neat trick, right.

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<v Speaker 5>We actually get them off the table so we can

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, and then I tend to try to clean my

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<v Speaker 2>that's part of what the waiter a waitress is supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to do. But people leave a mess at the table,

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<v Speaker 2>such as spilled drinks or food crumbs. I mean you can,

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<v Speaker 2>you can, you can tidy.

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<v Speaker 5>Up a little bit, right, Yeah, that's it's it's always appreciated, right,

425
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<v Speaker 5>I mean, it's it's you know, think about it as

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<v Speaker 5>if you went to someone's home, right, and you were

427
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<v Speaker 5>having a dinner at someone else's home. You know, just

428
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<v Speaker 5>just be respectful, that's all we're asking.

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<v Speaker 2>There's another one here, which which to me looks like

430
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<v Speaker 2>a scene out of a bad movie, snap your fingers

431
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<v Speaker 2>to get the waiter's attention.

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<v Speaker 5>So yeah, that's a no no right where they're not

433
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<v Speaker 5>trained seals. Right, So we want people to get always

434
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<v Speaker 5>you know, we obviously want our service to be attentive

435
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<v Speaker 5>and sure that they're they're meeting their needs. But don't

436
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<v Speaker 5>don't snap out our folks, especially you know, when you

437
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<v Speaker 5>get folks that waive money at the bartenders, that's that's

438
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<v Speaker 5>not helpful, right When we want to be there, we

439
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<v Speaker 5>want to help and serve our guests. But let's do

440
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<v Speaker 5>it in the right way.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So here's number four. I'm doing these reverse order

442
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<v Speaker 2>to stay past the restaurant's closing time. I mean, what

443
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<v Speaker 2>do they do in that situation? I assume most people

444
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<v Speaker 2>realize that restaurants close, you know whatever, they close at midnight,

445
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<v Speaker 2>one o'clock or whatever it is. I would assume more

446
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<v Speaker 2>of a problem with them with barrooms.

447
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<v Speaker 5>It is, and right, and so you start cleaning up

448
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<v Speaker 5>around them, right, So at some point you hope folks

449
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<v Speaker 5>get the hints that it's time to go home.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, Okay, And then I don't understand this. You're going

451
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<v Speaker 2>to debate menu prices with the staff. They give you

452
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<v Speaker 2>a menu, and you're going to say, you know, like

453
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<v Speaker 2>that burger h fifteen ninety five, that seems a little steep.

454
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<v Speaker 2>You think we could do it for ten fifty. Is

455
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<v Speaker 2>that what people are doing?

456
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<v Speaker 5>Unfortunately, that does happen on occasion, and you know, you

457
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<v Speaker 5>put the poor server in a tough spot. They're not

458
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<v Speaker 5>setting the prices right, and so they're not obviously in

459
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<v Speaker 5>a position to negotiate prices. We're not a bizarre right

460
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<v Speaker 5>or an open market, and so yeah, that's pretty much

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<v Speaker 5>found upon. That's probably the biggest no no on the list.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't imagine anyone doing that. They allow the children

463
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<v Speaker 2>to roam freely. Oh, I've seen that a lot. I've

464
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<v Speaker 2>seen that a lot, and I would assume that sometimes

465
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<v Speaker 2>if mom and dad have had a couple of glasses

466
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<v Speaker 2>of wine, maybe they're not as attempted to the little

467
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<v Speaker 2>ones as they should be. What do you do, I mean,

468
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<v Speaker 2>if you'll last sue the kids or what can the

469
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<v Speaker 2>restaurant do in that circumstance If they touch the kids,

470
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<v Speaker 2>people are going to be a little upset with that too.

471
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<v Speaker 2>Did they kind of like just guide them back to

472
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<v Speaker 2>mom and dad's table and say, oh, recognize these little

473
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<v Speaker 2>these little munchkins.

474
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<v Speaker 5>Well, that's right, yeah, And part of that is is

475
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<v Speaker 5>maybe giving them something right, so, you know, bringing out

476
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<v Speaker 5>a little treat, bringing out you know, a little maybe

477
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<v Speaker 5>if you have a cupcake or some kind of a dessert,

478
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<v Speaker 5>obviously with a parent's approval, to get them to come

479
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<v Speaker 5>back instead at the table is always a proven method.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, here's the worst, and I want to drill down

481
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<v Speaker 2>on this a little bit. So someone comes in, they

482
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<v Speaker 2>order a meal, they consume the dish, not the dish,

483
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<v Speaker 2>but the meal. And maybe they remember the clean Plate

484
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<v Speaker 2>club and at that point they say they don't want

485
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<v Speaker 2>to pay for it because they didn't like what they ate.

486
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<v Speaker 5>That actually happens more than you would think, and at

487
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<v Speaker 5>that point it's really up to you know, the server,

488
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<v Speaker 5>the restaurant, the manager on duty, and you know, we

489
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<v Speaker 5>want to do right by our guests for the most part,

490
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<v Speaker 5>but we also want to be fair, and so at

491
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<v Speaker 5>certain points, you know, if there's let's call it repeat offenders,

492
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<v Speaker 5>we know who they are, oh yeah, and we tend

493
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<v Speaker 5>to nip that in the butt. But you know, for

494
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<v Speaker 5>the most part, we're trying to do right. If someone

495
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<v Speaker 5>did really like something, maybe we'll comp a drink instead

496
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<v Speaker 5>of the meal and make sure that they at least,

497
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<v Speaker 5>you know, we're giving them the benefit of the doubt.

498
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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so let's flip the script here. What about you

499
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<v Speaker 2>call a restaurant and you order a reservation for two

500
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<v Speaker 2>people at eight o'clock or four people at seven o'clock

501
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<v Speaker 2>or whatever, and you show up in the restaurant, the

502
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<v Speaker 2>person the host or hostess, says, gee, we're running a

503
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<v Speaker 2>little late. It's going to be a few minutes. You

504
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<v Speaker 2>can have a drink at the bar. So you're in

505
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<v Speaker 2>the bar and now it's a half an hour later

506
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<v Speaker 2>and you're about to order a second drink. What should

507
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<v Speaker 2>the restaurant talk about bad diners? Now that's a bad

508
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<v Speaker 2>restaurant because they have overbooked or someone's that someone take

509
00:27:02.400 --> 00:27:05.640
<v Speaker 2>your table. What should the restaurant do to make it

510
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<v Speaker 2>up to the customer who showed up on time for

511
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<v Speaker 2>their reservation and now we're going to have to sit

512
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<v Speaker 2>and show for you know, fifteen twenty half an hour,

513
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<v Speaker 2>maybe forty five minutes. What should a good restaurant do

514
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<v Speaker 2>under those circumstances.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, a good restaurant, any restaurant, should obviously pick up

516
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<v Speaker 5>the drinks for those diners as well as bring them

517
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<v Speaker 5>out a complementary appetiser. Right, it's not just giving them

518
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<v Speaker 5>what they already had spent, but going one step extra.

519
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<v Speaker 5>What can I extra do for you because of the

520
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<v Speaker 5>inconvenience and because of I ruined your initial experience, and

521
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<v Speaker 5>I want to make it better. So it can't just

522
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<v Speaker 5>be give it up to what you already bought, but

523
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<v Speaker 5>give me one more thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, you know, I'm very impressed with your knowledge, and

525
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<v Speaker 2>I see that you're listed as a restaurant industry expert.

526
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<v Speaker 2>And I interview a lot of people on my show

527
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<v Speaker 2>and I often ask them, how do you become a

528
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<v Speaker 2>restaurant industry expert? A kid with people, I say that, look,

529
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<v Speaker 2>when you were growing up and you were eight or

530
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<v Speaker 2>nine years old, you didn't want you When someone said

531
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<v Speaker 2>in school, what do you want to be when you

532
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<v Speaker 2>grew up? Most kids are going to say, you know,

533
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<v Speaker 2>boys are going to say, I want to be a

534
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<v Speaker 2>policeman of firemen in the army.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

536
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<v Speaker 2>No one says I want to be a restaurant industry expert.

537
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<v Speaker 2>How'd you find your way into that field?

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<v Speaker 5>Treef Well, like anyone in the restaurant industry, you don't

539
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<v Speaker 5>choose it.

540
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<v Speaker 1>It chooses you.

541
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<v Speaker 5>And you know, when you get in the restaurant industry,

542
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<v Speaker 5>you kind of fall in love with it because, you know,

543
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<v Speaker 5>feeding people is I think one of the most greatest

544
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<v Speaker 5>opportunities you can have, right, nourishing people, giving them food

545
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<v Speaker 5>and drink, giving them a great experience when they go out.

546
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<v Speaker 5>I fell into it. I love it, I stay with it,

547
00:28:48.359 --> 00:28:51.640
<v Speaker 5>and I find no better joy than ensuring people have

548
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<v Speaker 5>a great experience when they go out and enjoy a

549
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<v Speaker 5>meal with friends. And family.

550
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<v Speaker 2>Did you, I seriously asked you. I mean, I know

551
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<v Speaker 2>that there was some great hospitality schools around the country.

552
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<v Speaker 2>We have a college up here in a little north

553
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<v Speaker 2>of Busting, Endicott College which has a great hospitality of program,

554
00:29:10.079 --> 00:29:15.200
<v Speaker 2>Cornell University School. A lot of people go there and

555
00:29:15.599 --> 00:29:18.480
<v Speaker 2>come out. Did you when you say you fell into it?

556
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<v Speaker 2>Did you just have an experience and say I like

557
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<v Speaker 2>this or did you go to school for it?

558
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<v Speaker 5>I actually didn't go to school for it, believe it

559
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<v Speaker 5>or not. To your point, every you know, every little

560
00:29:26.839 --> 00:29:28.599
<v Speaker 5>boy and girl had a different experience. I wanted to

561
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<v Speaker 5>be an astronaut. Yeah, so I actually went to Boston University.

562
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<v Speaker 2>Rights that's my law school. I'm a graduate of Boston University.

563
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<v Speaker 5>I graduated in eighty nine aerospace engineering from BOS.

564
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<v Speaker 1>Younger than I am.

565
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<v Speaker 2>I want you to know that if you go ahead.

566
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<v Speaker 5>But then I got a job later on in the

567
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<v Speaker 5>strategy side of a restaurant company and ended up being

568
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<v Speaker 5>in restaurants. I'm a big foodie. I love being in

569
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<v Speaker 5>the restaurant in and now I have the honor of

570
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<v Speaker 5>being able to run a restaurant group with eight great

571
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<v Speaker 5>brands and three hundred locations around the country.

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<v Speaker 2>I got to ask you one final question, and that

573
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<v Speaker 2>is why is it that so many really good restaurants?

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<v Speaker 2>And when I say good restaurants, I mean restaurants that

575
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<v Speaker 2>serve good food, reasonable prices. They seem to be the

576
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<v Speaker 2>restaurants that go belly up. And a lot of restaurants

577
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<v Speaker 2>which are you know, a little I don't know, extra

578
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<v Speaker 2>fancy or you're paying you know, eighty dollars for a steak.

579
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<v Speaker 2>Not that those are those sort of restaurants I go to,

580
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<v Speaker 2>but they seem to continue in business. Why do good

581
00:30:38.160 --> 00:30:40.759
<v Speaker 2>restaurants go out of business? Because I can cite I'm

582
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<v Speaker 2>not going to do it on the year right now,

583
00:30:42.319 --> 00:30:44.319
<v Speaker 2>but I can tell you a good restaurants that have

584
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<v Speaker 2>gone out of business, and I suspect you you know

585
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<v Speaker 2>what I'm talking about. What happens I do.

586
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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's it's unfortunate. The restaurant industry is so hard

587
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<v Speaker 5>because it's so competitive. I mean, if you think about

588
00:30:55.839 --> 00:30:57.440
<v Speaker 5>all the places you can go to get a steak,

589
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<v Speaker 5>to get a burger, to get a chicken sandwich, you

590
00:31:00.240 --> 00:31:04.440
<v Speaker 5>could name hundreds, right, and loyalty is really hard. And

591
00:31:04.519 --> 00:31:08.720
<v Speaker 5>if you don't have enough loyal customers, they go elsewhere,

592
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<v Speaker 5>and unfortunately that's what happens. Yet, unfortunately people try you

593
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<v Speaker 5>and they don't come back.

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<v Speaker 2>And even I will mention one change which mystifies me.

595
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<v Speaker 2>There was a burger chain that has been around, had

596
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<v Speaker 2>been around maybe I don't know, fifteen twenty years ago,

597
00:31:24.319 --> 00:31:28.480
<v Speaker 2>called funt Ruckers. Yes, I loved that chain. I thought

598
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<v Speaker 2>it was the best burger.

599
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<v Speaker 1>Uh.

600
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<v Speaker 2>They had salad bar, everything you wanted. And I thought, Man,

601
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<v Speaker 2>if I'm going to invest in a restaurant, this is

602
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<v Speaker 2>a restaurant. Invested in this now I believe out of business.

603
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<v Speaker 2>And I always think to myself, how did that restaurant

604
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<v Speaker 2>not succeed?

605
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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's tough be just there was nothing differentiating about it. Unfortunately, Right,

606
00:31:52.880 --> 00:31:54.799
<v Speaker 5>there's so many other places to get a burger.

607
00:31:55.119 --> 00:32:00.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but oh the best burgers. I would stop if

608
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<v Speaker 2>I was driving somewhere, I didn't care what time of

609
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<v Speaker 2>the day was, I would pull into a fud Ruckers

610
00:32:04.480 --> 00:32:08.279
<v Speaker 2>and they had everything was fresh. Anyway, some night I

611
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<v Speaker 2>must do something on fud Ruckers. And I hope some

612
00:32:10.839 --> 00:32:15.279
<v Speaker 2>of the audience understands. Sure, if I really enjoyed this conversation,

613
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<v Speaker 2>thank you you most people who are coming on the show,

614
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<v Speaker 2>they have a book, or they they're they're plugging something.

615
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<v Speaker 2>Is there something you want to plug or have you

616
00:32:23.799 --> 00:32:25.440
<v Speaker 2>just come on out of the goodness of your heart

617
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<v Speaker 2>to share this this information with us.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, No, one of my brands is actually Friendlies, which

619
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<v Speaker 5>is in the Northeast, and I would love for folks

620
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<v Speaker 5>to come and try Friendlies again. We're growing again. We

621
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<v Speaker 5>have a one hundred plus restaurants up in the Northeast

622
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<v Speaker 5>and the Eastern Seaboard. And yeah, everyone has a great

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<v Speaker 5>Friendly story.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, those a lot of great memories from Friendlies. I

625
00:32:45.200 --> 00:32:48.440
<v Speaker 2>thought they had great ice cream. I buy Friendly ice

626
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<v Speaker 2>cream at the supermarket because I love their ice creams.

627
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<v Speaker 4>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>They went through bankruptcy, correct.

629
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<v Speaker 5>We did, they did, and we bought them out of

630
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<v Speaker 5>bankruptcy and we're growing again.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, let me tell you, let me know and we'll

632
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<v Speaker 2>have you back. If you get some some Friendlies open

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<v Speaker 2>in the greater Boston area, let us know. I will.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's I think it's a great option. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a higher stirling, higher end and a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>the fast food places. At the same time. A family

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<v Speaker 2>can win there and they can they can have a

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<v Speaker 2>meal with themselves or with their children, and they're not

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<v Speaker 2>going to break the bank, so best of mine. It's

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<v Speaker 2>good to know. So anytime you see your friendlies folks,

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<v Speaker 2>and we we're heard it all up and down the

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<v Speaker 2>East coast, think about my friend Sharif Mityahs and we

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<v Speaker 2>talked about tonight. Thanks, thanks Sharief.

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<v Speaker 5>Keep us posted, okay, thank you appreciate it, very welcome.

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<v Speaker 2>When we get back, we're going to get a weekend

647
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<v Speaker 2>weather forecast. The weekend weather forecast, I will tell you

648
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<v Speaker 2>there is no snow in the forecast. It is going

649
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<v Speaker 2>to be a great weather. Wen I'm only joking. ACI

650
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<v Speaker 2>Weather meteorologist Carl Ericson will be joining us. This is

651
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<v Speaker 2>going to be one of those perfect summer weekends, it appears.

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<v Speaker 2>But I want to get a confirmed with Carl Ericson

653
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<v Speaker 2>and then we will talk some politics. There was a

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<v Speaker 2>very interesting development today. We'll talk about it right after

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<v Speaker 2>the nine o'clock news on Nightside. Coming back right after this.

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<v Speaker 2>Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World

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<v Speaker 2>Nightside Studios on WBZ News Radio. We've had a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of fabulous days here in New England, and again New

659
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<v Speaker 2>England's a bigger area. You look at the map, you

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<v Speaker 2>say it's a smaller it's relatively small, but it's six

661
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<v Speaker 2>states and forecasting, one of the forecasting in New England

662
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<v Speaker 2>can be very challenging throughout most of the year with

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<v Speaker 2>us as Carl ericson Carl, this doesn't look like a

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<v Speaker 2>challenging forecast this weekend. It looks like a fabulous forecast

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<v Speaker 2>literally for the entire area. I believe how you doing today?

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<v Speaker 3>That's right, Dan, Hey, hey, thanks for having me. That's

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<v Speaker 3>right and pretty easy forecast here this weekend. So we'll

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<v Speaker 3>take this one. But it's been a pretty nice couple

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<v Speaker 3>of days. I should continue here through much of this weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I guess we'll get a little rain on Monday,

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<v Speaker 2>but most folks are off on Saturday and Sunday. There's

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<v Speaker 2>literally a we're going to I mean, we got six states,

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<v Speaker 2>and obviously the main goes pretty far into Canada, pretty

674
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<v Speaker 2>far north, and then you got different mountain ranges up

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<v Speaker 2>in Vermont and New Hampshire, so the weather's always going

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<v Speaker 2>to be a little bit different. But I'm thinking this

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<v Speaker 2>is as good a weekend for the New England Chamber

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<v Speaker 2>of Commerce as we will have any time this year.

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<v Speaker 3>Right tomorrow is definitely the best out of the weekend.

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<v Speaker 3>The entire New England region will have beautiful weather tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 3>Low humidity, that's the key there. That humidity is staying low,

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<v Speaker 3>so it's comfortable out there. Temperature so a few degrees

683
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<v Speaker 3>above the historical average, which is right around eighty, well

684
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<v Speaker 3>in the load to mid eighties for the most part,

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<v Speaker 3>as seventies, a little bit closer to the coast, but

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<v Speaker 3>just beautiful weather. Now as we go into Sunday, that's

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<v Speaker 3>if you are traveling a little bit further north, that's

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<v Speaker 3>when you could have a shower or two sneaking into

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<v Speaker 3>maybe parts of northern New Hampshire ups into a northern Maine,

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<v Speaker 3>but even that's going to be very very spotty activity. Otherwise,

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<v Speaker 3>further south, much of a New England have another pretty

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<v Speaker 3>nice day on Sunday. You might notice that a little

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<v Speaker 3>increase humidity on Sunday, a little bit more stuffy out there,

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<v Speaker 3>but for all intents and purposes, a pretty nice end

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<v Speaker 3>of the weekend as well.

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<v Speaker 2>I was away a couple of weeks ago. Carl I

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<v Speaker 2>led a group of nightside listeners on a tour of

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<v Speaker 2>Rome in the Mouthy Coast and it was hot. I

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<v Speaker 2>know it was worn back here. I think it was rady.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like that first weekend in August, August second

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<v Speaker 2>to the eleventh, and it was ninety degrees or more

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<v Speaker 2>every day. There were a couple of days into hundreds.

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<v Speaker 2>We never really have that. We haven't. We haven't had

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<v Speaker 2>that many ninety degree days this summer. I know we

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<v Speaker 2>had some early, but it seems to have calmed down

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<v Speaker 2>in terms of the really hot weather. Am I am?

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<v Speaker 2>I correct to.

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<v Speaker 3>That, well, at least across our area. It has now

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<v Speaker 3>all that heat's pretty much been focused across the central

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<v Speaker 3>southwestern part of the United States, pretty much a heat

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<v Speaker 3>dome there. We've had these little ripples of energy more

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<v Speaker 3>of a Northwest flow coming down from Canada here for

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<v Speaker 3>much of the time. So that's so while it can

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<v Speaker 3>heat up, it's difficult to get that prolonged heat and

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<v Speaker 3>not kind of a setup. So it's still the pattern

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<v Speaker 3>word to change. That's pretty much what we were out here

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<v Speaker 3>for this summer.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, isn't it we need three days of ninety

719
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<v Speaker 2>in order to say there was a heat wave? Is that?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that the proper phraseology.

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<v Speaker 3>Right for our geographical area. Now parts of the different

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<v Speaker 3>parts of the country maybe a little bit longer or shorter,

723
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<v Speaker 3>but much of the northeast, mid Atlantic New England. It's

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<v Speaker 3>three days in a row of ninety or higher for

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<v Speaker 3>an official heat wave.

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<v Speaker 2>And we've only had have we had one this year,

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<v Speaker 2>and if we've had one, that that's about all we've

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<v Speaker 2>had that I can remember.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we had we were trying to string a few together.

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<v Speaker 3>We did have that one day we got up to

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<v Speaker 3>ninety five ninety eight back in June.

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<v Speaker 2>But it looks like you.

733
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<v Speaker 3>Didn't have trying to find three in a row, they're

734
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<v Speaker 3>just kind of scattered. I did a quick scan here

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<v Speaker 3>through the Oaks three file.

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<v Speaker 2>To put you in this bustle. No, no, it's fine.

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<v Speaker 3>We ask more general one back in July July we

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<v Speaker 3>have official heatwave there, we go have to be official here, right.

739
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, we got to be official at nightside. So

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<v Speaker 2>then here's the here's the question. I know that there's

741
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<v Speaker 2>been some hurricanes, but we haven't had one up here,

742
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<v Speaker 2>thank god. At this point, Debbie kind of went through

743
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<v Speaker 2>western New England and eastern New York. But it was

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<v Speaker 2>it was the shell of what it was was it

745
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<v Speaker 2>was that DeBie. No, that was Burrow bur Okay.

746
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<v Speaker 3>That was more of that long track a hurricane.

747
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<v Speaker 2>First. How's it looking. I know that there's two or

748
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<v Speaker 2>three that are kind of percolating off the coast of Africa.

749
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<v Speaker 2>I know you can't go too far, you know, six seven,

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<v Speaker 2>eight days maybe, do you think we might have a

751
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<v Speaker 2>quiet year. I know that they were brought be forecasting

752
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<v Speaker 2>was going to be quite active.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, we're actually really concerned here speaking with our other

754
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<v Speaker 3>acuather meteorologists of September. It's very quiet out there right

755
00:38:46.119 --> 00:38:48.639
<v Speaker 3>now across the Atlantic base and the Pacific actually has

756
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<v Speaker 3>heated up here with a couple of storms near Hawaii

757
00:38:51.679 --> 00:38:54.079
<v Speaker 3>going into this weekend. But the Atlantic has been very

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<v Speaker 3>quiet for a couple of main reasons. Increased wind shear

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<v Speaker 3>which kind of rips the tops of the thunderstorms off

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<v Speaker 3>any developing storms. But also there's been a large area

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<v Speaker 3>of dry air, a lot of Saharan dust blown off

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<v Speaker 3>from Africa and all that dry, dusty air in the

763
00:39:08.760 --> 00:39:11.719
<v Speaker 3>wind here. Those are just hurricane killers. You really don't

764
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<v Speaker 3>get much development that kind of a setup. But what

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<v Speaker 3>we're concerned about is we head into September here just

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<v Speaker 3>a couple, well just a week or two now that

767
00:39:19.480 --> 00:39:21.719
<v Speaker 3>dry air is going to go away. Also, the wind

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<v Speaker 3>here is expected to lessen, and you have all this

769
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<v Speaker 3>tremendous heat across the ocean, a sea surface temperature as

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<v Speaker 3>well above average. So the stages set, we're actually expecting

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<v Speaker 3>here at Acua there anyway between six and ten named

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<v Speaker 3>storms just for the months of sep September, so expect

773
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<v Speaker 3>the tropics to really heat up.

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<v Speaker 2>Across That's not necessarily six to ten in New England.

775
00:39:42.599 --> 00:39:45.280
<v Speaker 3>No, No, that doesn't mean six to ten landfalling areas.

776
00:39:45.280 --> 00:39:48.679
<v Speaker 3>We're mostly concerned from Texas, Gulf Coast, Florida and up

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<v Speaker 3>across the Carolinas for landfalling tropical systems and hurricanes here

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<v Speaker 3>going into September. But that's not to say once they

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<v Speaker 3>make landfall, as we all know, they may race north

780
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<v Speaker 3>into New England, so we could still get some of

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<v Speaker 3>the wind and rain impacts from any landfalling systems further

782
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<v Speaker 3>off to our south. So definitely want to keep an

783
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<v Speaker 3>eye on the tropics here as we go in September.

784
00:40:08.079 --> 00:40:11.440
<v Speaker 3>Can't roll out landfalling hurricane even across New England, but

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<v Speaker 3>looks like the best chances of landfall impacts will be

786
00:40:14.360 --> 00:40:16.679
<v Speaker 3>across the southeast US over toward Texas.

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<v Speaker 2>Call you the best, I thank you very much. Hopefully

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<v Speaker 2>we'll have you back, but hopefully for a nice positive

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<v Speaker 2>forecast like for this, like you're doing for this weekend.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks you just focus on the short term. No hurricanes

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00:40:27.719 --> 00:40:29.960
<v Speaker 3>this weekend, just beautiful weather, so enjoy that.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks so much, Kyle, having everyone yourself. Okay, when we

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<v Speaker 2>get back, we're going to talk about what was expected

794
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<v Speaker 2>to happen today. Did happen? RFK Robert F. Kennedy Junior

795
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<v Speaker 2>dropped his well, he suspended his presidential bid. He's endorsed

796
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<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump. We're going to talk about it right after

797
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<v Speaker 2>the nine o'clock news