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Speaker 2: Kind of sort of tenC ween Sea little bit violent

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leftist activists are pretty upset that law enforcement is keeping

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an eye on them in case they start engaging in

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any of any of the violence that they may have

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kind of sort of been involved within the past.

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Speaker 1: They're very very upset. There's a lawsuit now, yeah, yeah,

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I mean it's not about the violence or the police

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monic during their social media feeds or anything. It's about

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open meetings law and whether Central Piedmont Community College violated

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the state's open meetings law when it was discussing like

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land swaps and purchases and the development of the police

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medic fire training center that they're looking to build down

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in Matthews And this is now well, I mean they

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look the ANTIFA part time temporary LARPing anarchist types, like

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they really haven't had a whole lot to do since

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Atlanta kicked their tails at Cop City Atlanta, and so

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now they're you know, they're looking for a sequel, and

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they really want Cop City CLT to be a thing.

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They just basically oppose training law enforcement. They don't want

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law enforcement to be trained, while also by the lack

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of training that law enforcement has that leads to the

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deaths of people who are simply merely you know, waving

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a firearm at uniformed police Central Piedmont Community College. According

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to the Charlotte Observers, Ryan Orley CPCC asked the Charlotte

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Mecklenburg Police to quote flag any growing movement against a

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first responder training facility being built in Matthews, according to

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emails that were included in a lawsuit. So this is

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the story published at the Observer yesterday, but it's the

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second story that actually, yeah, that is rooted in this

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lawsuit against CPCC. The first story that Ryan Orley did

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was back on April twenty fifth, okay, so days ago.

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First story about the lawsuit yesterday a follow up story

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based on some of the exhibits that were in the lawsuit.

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But here's the key according to the Observer's headline, that

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the emails show that CMPD gathered social media intel on

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police abolitionist group. I'm supposed to be mad at this.

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Why would I be mad at this? You're posting stuff

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on social media and they can look at your stuff.

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You posted it, it's up there, and you're anti cop.

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So we're not anti police. We just don't want them,

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you know, to have a training facility, and then we

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want to use their lack of training as a way

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to defund the police. See. Police agreed to keep an

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eye on the activist group called Charlotte Uprising and shared

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with college officials some social media posts that were critical

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of the plan. The Charlotte Uprising. This is the leftist

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activist group, and they got a bit of a record here,

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and some of them have a bit of a police record.

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And the Uprising crowd were the anti cop City Atlanta

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protesters too. They were part of that crowd. So of

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course Charlotte Mecklenburg Police is going to be keeping tabs

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on them and their social media posts, particularly when they

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are organizing collectivist action against the construction of this training

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facility because they have a bit of a reputation of

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getting kind of sort of a little bit teensy weensy

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bit violent, particularly when it comes to these types of

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training facilities. Charlotte Uprising describes itself as a police and

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prison abolition organization, a police abolition organization and prisons. They

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want no cops and they want no prisons. Like that

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is the stupidest thing in the world. Okay, once again,

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foundational pillars of any functioning society. Number one. Security. If

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you do not have security, then you don't have a

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society because without security, nothing else can occur. You cannot

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engage in commerce. Right, you can't go to your little concerts.

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You can't hit your favorite food trucks because gangs will

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hit your food trucks and they will rob the food truck,

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and then you will have no food at the food truck,

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maybe not even somebody who is running the food truck,

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as they may kill that person and take all of

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their stuff. See, that's what you get when you do

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not have security. First thing got to have some security,

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the ability to defend yourself. And in our society we

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have turned this responsibility over to police departments, police departments

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that are controlled by our elected representatives. This is not

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to say that there are no abuses by cops. Of

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course there are. Like a long time ago, I read

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a line and it's I feel like it is a

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really good encapsulation of the issue, which is conservatives have

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to understand that not every cop is good, and leftists

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have to understand that not every cop is bad. Right,

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there are going to be abuses, but not all cops

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commit them, like this should be obvious. So they are

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a police in prison abolition organization, so you might image

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and completely illogical. A message sent to the group's Instagram

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page was not returned in time for this The publication

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of this story at the Charlotte Observer asked about police

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keeping watch on a political group. Well, it's okay, now

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hang on a second, Ryan Orley, the reporter here, It's

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not just a political group, Okay. It's not simply a

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political group. This is an This is a left wing

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activist organization that has a history of being on site

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during violent interactions with law enforcement. So it's not simply

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it's not like it's the local Democrat party. Although there

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are a lot of crossover you know members, I'm sure.

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Catherine Butler, a spokesperson for CPCC, said that quote, this

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activist group and others have targeted the college, our leaders,

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college personnel, and the project's partners. I have not heard this.

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By the way, listen to this next sentence. Over the

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last several months, our design firm working on the facility

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has had its offices vandalized, broken into, and ransacked. Do

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you know of another kind of an architectural firm or

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design firm that would where this would happen? Of course not.

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Am I to believe this has nothing to do with

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their work on this project? Of course it does. Again,

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what do I always say, don't whiz on my boots

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and tell me it's raining, stop the gas lighting. We

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all understand why a design firm working on this project

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would all of a sudden have their offices attacked. She

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went on to say, it's important for any organization, including

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Central Piedmont Community College and agencies involved in the project,

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to maintain the safety and security of its facilities, its people,

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and partners. So we are attentive to information shared by

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law enforcement as well as public information on social media.

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Precisely they would be derelict, negligent if they were not

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keeping tabs on this organization and their public statements. Indeed,

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I would submit that local law enforcement would be negligent

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and derelict in their duty if they were not keeping

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tabs on this organization from the inside. Like, this is

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the kind of organization that you would put somebody into.

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You would want somebody on the inside. So this way,

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if they start planning mayhem, vandalism, murders, attacks, whatever you

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would get, you would get a heads up. You would

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know ahead of time, so you could thwart it. Anytime

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I can use the word thwart, I will take it.

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I did get a message from Jeff who says isn't

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Charlotte Uprising Braxton Winston's group the former mayor pro tem

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failed Secretary of Labor candidate as well, and according to

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the AI, Braxton Winston, a prominent figure in the Charlotte

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Uprising protests, was elected to the Charlotte City Council in

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twenty seventeen. He emerged as a key activist after the

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shooting of Keith Lamont Scott by CMPD, leading to widespread

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Keith Lamont Scott, who had a gun, refused to drop

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it and then raised it up and then was shot

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and killed, and they turned it into a, you know,

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a racial thing because Keith Lamont Scott was black, although

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the officer that shot him was also black, but that

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didn't matter because he was wearing the blue and so

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that's the only thing that matters. Of course, that led

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to the widespread protests in the city in twenty seventeen.

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And of course Braxton Winston had his shirt off because

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it was hot out and he's in the streets and

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raising his fist in the air, and somebody takes a

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picture of him and it goes viral, and then he

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parlays that into a run for the Charlotte City Council

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and so, yeah, I don't know if he was like

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a I don't know if there was like an organizational

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structure at that time, but yeah, that's what launched his

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career in politics, I should say, And that's the group

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that now CMPD, is you know, following on social media

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making sure that as they're posting all of these calls

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to action against CPCC and identifying people by name, and

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you know, posting meetups and stuff and addresses to go

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protest in front of that, that if they're going to

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get a little violent and they post that stuff on

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social media, CMPD wants to know about it, as they should,

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by the way, as they should. Evan White, public affairs

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manager at CMPD, did not respond to questions from The

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Charlotte Observer about whether CMPD was still collecting intelligence on

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Charlotte Uprising and what the department's policy is on monitoring

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activist groups. Well, I hope they are. I hope they're

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still monitoring, and I don't think they should tell you that.

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So that's that's part of an investigation.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: I have made a request. This is from a cp

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the Central Piedmont Community College Public Safety dean Luke Sell

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is his name, Luke Sell, And he said, I've made

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a request to cmpd's intel team to flag anything regarding

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this facility and help us determine if any movement gains traction. Right, Okay,

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perfectly appropriate, good to be prepared and He went on

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to say that the group's posts were not overly concerning,

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but definitely something to watch and so they can plan accordingly.

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The one hundred eighteen million dollar project set to be

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completed sometime around twenty twenty eight. And these emails that

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were obtained by the Charlotte Observer were obtained because they

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were exhibits in a lawsuit that was filed against CPCC

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by these activists who claim that CPCC violated the state's

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open meeting law by discussing the details of this land

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acquisition inclosed session, which, by the way, that is actually

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something you are allowed to talk about in closed session,

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land acquisition, real estate deals. They do it all time.

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Local governments do this all the time. And the reason

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why is because if word gets out that they are

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trying to negotiate for some particular parcel of land and

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somebody is adjacent, a landowner is adjacent, they could then

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try to squeeze more money. They could use it in

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the negotiations against the government, because the government's got deep pockets, right,

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That's why you're allowed to do these things in closed session,

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and then after the deal is done, then you release

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the information. So the emails were included as exhibits in

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a lawsuit filed in Mecklenburg last week. Five plaintiffs alleged

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that CPCC broke open meeting law when they discussed when

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they were discussing and planning this facility one of the

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So there are two bits from this article that I

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find interesting. One is as follows that a CMPD detective

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in one of these emails references an activist arrested during

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Charlotte's twenty twenty protests over the killing of Saint George Floyd,

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and then again in Atlanta. They were the same activist

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was arrested then again in Atlanta for that Copcity protest.

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The detective called the activist quote one of the main

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agitators in the twenty twenty riots in Charlotte. Now I

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thought this was interesting, Who is this activist? Why, like,

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why wouldn't you name this person in the in the

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news article. Well, they did post the lawsuit, all two

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hundred and sixty pages of it, and I went through

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the two hundred and sixty pages this morning and I

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found the email that was in the exhibit. And here's

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what the email says from a CMPD detective to Luke

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Sell at Central Piedmont. You are probably already aware, but

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Charlotte Uprising is posting about the new CPCC law enforcement

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training facility, trying to compare it to Atlanta's Cop City.

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If you remember, James Marsicano from Charlotte Uprising was arrested

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in Georgia as part of the Cop City protests. Marsicano

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was also one of the main agitators in the twenty

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twenty riots in Charlotte and was arrested then as well.

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Take care let us know if you need anything. Why

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wouldn't you identify James Marsicano in the article. It doesn't

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save you any word count, so that that can't be it.

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I have some theories, well really one, but it's also

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connected to this other tidbit that I thought was of note.

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At the very end of the story, there is a

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disclaimer and credit to the Charlotte Observer for pointing this

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out to their readers. It says Ryan Orley covers criminal

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justice in the Charlotte region for the Charlotte Observer. His

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work is produced with financial support from the nonprofit the

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Just Trust. The Observer maintains full editorial control of its journalism. Okay,

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so the Observer is taking money from a nonprofit called

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the Just Trust, and they claim that just because we're

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getting this money to fund the salary of a reporter,

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at least in part. I don't know how much the

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Observer is taking in from this nonprofit, but I'm supposed

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to believe that all editorial control ignores the revenue stream

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that funds the creation of the content that you are

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now selling. You want me to believe that there's zero impact,

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zero influence whatsoever. I don't believe you. I don't believe that,

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particularly when this nonprofit is the Just Trust. Do you

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want to take a guess what the Just Trust is

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all about? Well, if you guessed prison and police abolition,

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you'd be correct. The very thing that Charlotte Uprising is

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all about is they also the very thing that the

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Just Trust is about. I mean, they dress it all

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up in you know, corporate NGO gobblygook on their website.

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You got to sift through it, but you understand what

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it is that they're arguing for when they talk about

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reforms and a more humane system in all of this, Yeah,

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these are prison abolitionists. They want to get rid of that,

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they want to tear down the system as it exists,

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the Just Trust. That's what they're funding, and they do

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it all over the place. They also fund the ACLU.

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So I don't know, Like, maybe you guys should do

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a bit of a story about the impact that this

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twenty twenty three, a little over well, I guess it

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was two years now twenty five months, a second year

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law student at the University of North Carolina Chapel Hills

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School of Law was arrested and charged with domestic terrorism

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in a coordinated crowd attack on the police training center

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in Atlanta. James Marsicano, thirty years old, was among twenty

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three people arrested after police say a group of demonstrators

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used the cover of a peaceful protest and the South

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River Music Festival to attack construction equipment and police officers.

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Kind of feel like the police officers should get TI

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billing there, you know, over the equipment. But anyway, police

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say thirty five people were detained, twenty three charged by

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the Georgia Bureau of Investigation or the GBI. They changed

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into black clothing and entered the construction area and began

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to throw large rocks and bricks and molotov cocktails and

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fireworks at police officers. According to Atlanta PD SO, James Marsicano,

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also known as Jamie Marsicano, she her pronouns, is the

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son of Michael Marsicano. And when I was a reporter

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here in Charlotte for almost a decade, I had many

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occasions to interview and attend meetings with and hear presentations

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by Michael Marsicano, who was the CEO of the Foundation

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of the Carolinas Foundation for the Carolinas I believe, And

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they were involved in like every major project that the

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city council, County Commission, even the school board. They were

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super in depth, involved in bringing together public private partnerships

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to create you know, events, venues and initiatives you know,

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aimed at improving the society and the city and all

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sorts of stuff they were involved in, like everything. Michael

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Marsicano led that organization. This is his kid, his thirty

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year old son, who's now probably thirty two, I guess.

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Michael Marsicano retired in January of twenty twenty three. He

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was also a governing board member at Duke University and

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Duke University Health System. He was named to the top

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spot of the most Powerful in Charlotte in twenty seventeen.

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He and his wife have remained influential in the Charlotte area,

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leading Charlotte Mayor Vye Lyles is racial the Mayor's racial

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equity initiative, the two hundred and fifty million dollar thing.

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Remember that the mayor announced I think using I think

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it was like COVID money or something. But he's he's

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a he's a big name, and like this has got

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to be terrible for him. Like I'm not trying to

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like drag him in or you know, besmirch him or anything.

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But I have to wonder if his son had any

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other father, an unknown guy that you know, worked at

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a bank or something. I just I wonder if he

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would be named in this Charlotte Observer story. James Marsicano

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goes by the alias Jamie Marsica or Marsicanna, identifies as

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a white trans fem organizer in Charlotte. This is his

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own words on his profile, who is fiercely committed to

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supporting black transfems, prison abolition, and destabilizing all forms of oppression.

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She they was a core organizer during the Charlotte Uprising.

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Marccano's arrests include anti police demonstrations dating back to twenty sixteen.

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Let's see if we go backwards from the cop City protest,

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where he was charged with domestic terrorism June of twenty twenty,

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charged with assault on a government official, resisting a police officer,

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and disorderly conduct in an altercation with a police officer

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during the George Floyd fiery but mostly peaceful Summer of

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Love protests in uptown Charlotte. Prior to that, in twenty seventeen,

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he was arrested at Charlotte Douglas Airport in a Charlotte

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Uprising Black Lives Matter skirmish with police when a protest

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against then President Donald Trump's executive order banning refugees and

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citizens from seven Muslim majority countries got physical. The year

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before that, twenty sixteen, Marsicana was also arrested and charged

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with disorderly conduct and protests after the Maclammer County DA's

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office decided not to file charges against the officer who

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shot and killed Keith Lamon Scott. And then, of course,

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most recently was the domestic terrorism charges filed by the

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Georgia Bureau of investigation, which then led to him getting

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banned from the UNC Chapel Hill campus, where he was

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a second year law student, which then prompted students at

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UNC to walk out of class to protest that decision.

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Marsicano's attorney, Aaron King, at the time this was April

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twenty twenty three. Aaron King said that the charge against

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her client is baseless, noting that by prosecutor's own admission

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of already do not have any evidence directly tying Marsicano

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to the scene. They said there was no video. The

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arrests occurred near a music festival about three quarters of

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a mile away, more than two hours after the attack

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took place. According to the lawyer, Marsicano was arrested near

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a food truck while eating dinner at the festival. But

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prosecutors wanted no bond for Marsicano because they said he

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he saying he is an anarchist who was wearing muddy

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black clothing and had been arrested in connection with protests

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to North Carolina in twenty sixteen and twenty seventeen. Right,

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so he's got a rap sheet. This is kind of

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what he does. Right, He goes and he protests, and

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he gets violent with law enforcement. The officers who stormed

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the festival following the attack on Cop City Atlanta were

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looking for people who had money, muddy clothing. Why well,

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because the the people who stormed the construction site, they

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had to cross a stream a creek in order to

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get to the music festival, where they blended in with

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the crowd. So they when the cops show up, they're like,

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look for people dressed in all black because that's the

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uniform of the temporary anarchist LARPers. And they're going to

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be covered in mud because they crossed this creek, So

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they're going to be muddy and lo and behold this

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guy with muddy black clothes and a rap sheet for

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doing this exact kind of violence happens to be standing

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next to a food truck eating. Some chow activists say

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that the evidence in question is not adequate because it

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rained two days before the festival and so there were

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patches of mud on the festival grounds that apparently I

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guess he what they rolled in or something like. That's

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just Megan Rankin, a friend and classmate, said Marccano challenges

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us to think in class and is a resource for

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many who are facing struggles both inside and outside the classroom,

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especially when it comes to supporting those struggling with mental health.

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Jamie is just this glowing, bubbly, wonderful personality when he's

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not attacking police. Okay, I edded that last part.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 1: If you're listening to this show, you know I try

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at the Charlotte Observer did a story about the lawsuit

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filed against CPCC about six days ago. A Central Piedmont

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Community College student alleged in a lawsuit that security guards

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followed her and barred her from returning to campus after

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she went to a Board of trustees meeting. Okay, but

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that's not why they followed her and barred her. There

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was they alleged certain behavior that occurred inside the meeting.

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She is one of five plaintiffs alleging that school officials

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broke open meetings law when discussing a plan and first

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responder training facility that is being built on twenty three

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acres at the college's Matthews campus. The college calls the

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plan community Lifeline. Opponents have called it a cop city,

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like the one that drew protests in Atlanta. The plaintiffs

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are being represented by the Southern Coalition for Social Justice,

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a Durham based nonprofit that provides legal advice and representation

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to poor people and minority communities. Ryan It is a

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left wing activist organization. These are leftists. The Southern Coalition

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for Social Justice is a leftist law firm, okay, and

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they have successfully put two of their CEOs presidents leaders

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on the State Supreme Court, Alison Riggs, who's in the

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fight with Jefferson Griffin, and Anita Earls. Anit Earls was

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the founder of this organization. See, the left loves their

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activist lawyers when they are of the left. They have

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no problem putting somebody like a Ruth Bader Ginsburg and

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Anita Earls onto the courts. No problem. But you know,

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God forbid you mentioned anything of a conservative persuasion and

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you want to be put onto the courts, then it's like, oh,

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we can't have you. You're an idea loogue in all

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of this anyway. The lawsuit alleges the college board violated

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open meetings law by not keeping adequate minutes, not recording

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the meetings, not issuing proper public notice of meetings, requiring

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photo id for the public to attend a meeting, failing

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to provide copies of an agenda, and unlawfully discussing the

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plan in closed session. Again, you're allowed to talk about

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real estate development deals in closed session, So the college says, quote,

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our commitment to the residents of Mecklelberg County and the

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first responders who serve them will not waiver. Central Piedmont

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strongly dis degrees with the allegations outlined, which are based

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on inaccurate claims. The complaint said that a visiting student

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named ibonei xus oh, actually that might be ebony but

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spelled with an e ebony exeus of Charlotte left a

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March twelfth board meeting before it went into closed session.

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School officials cited a statute that allowed meetings to be

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closed to the public for anti terrorism planning, which makes

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sense considering what I just told you about Marsacano. The

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lawsuit alleged that a security guard followed her, took a

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picture of her license plate as she drove off, and

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then Mecklenberg County's assistant public defender Mina as it kippie,

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I don't know how to pronounce it easy, I kpe

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I don't know. She then left the meeting around the

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same time. Security also followed her, and the students said

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she was told that she was banned from campus and

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would be arrested if she didn't leave, and then the

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public defender's boss got a call and learned that she

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was also banned from the campus. CMPD officer claimed that

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she was swearing in a disrespectful and abusive manner toward

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the board members and CPCC security, but no one watching

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the meeting was allowed to speak at all. According to

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the lawsuit, well, just because you didn't get a carve

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out to go in front of the board and speak

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like two minutes to make your case on something. Just

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because they didn't let you speak at the board meeting

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doesn't mean that you didn't like scream and yell and

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cuss out people. The plaintiffs say that they did not

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swear at staff or campus security, and another attorney, Xavier

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Torrez de Genon of Charlotte, alleged that he asked a

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school representative for an agenda and given the repeated rept

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references to a non public agenda having been circulated to

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members of the board, but was told that no such

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agenda existed in the exhibits of the lawsuit. By the way,

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he's apparently been swapping emails with Mecklenburg County Commissioner Laura

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Meyer on this. The plaintiffs want a judge to order

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the March twelfth meeting nullified, along with any other meetings

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where the board allegedly broke state laws. So what are

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they trying to do. They're trying to stop the project, right,

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They're trying to stop the project.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: What's interesting also is that the term leftist is never

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used in this article, which is paid for in part

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by the Just Trust nonprofit that's a leftist organization. But

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let me real quick, just go over who the parties are,

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who these plaintiffs are. I mentioned Mina Azgipe whatever, she's

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a public defender, and in the complaint it says it

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lists who she is, where she went to school in

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all of this. This is in the lawsuit labeling her

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as one of the parties. And he says Ms. Ezekepe

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is black. And then plaintiff A Bony Xius employed by

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Atrium Health Sartis Oakes tells some of her background and

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then says Exius is black. Xavier Tourus Dejonon, attorney employed

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as Director of Mass Defense at the National Lawyers Guild.

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His legal work includes supporting community responses to state repression

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and researching publicly funded development of police training centers referred

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to as cop cities and the potential for increased police militarization,

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environmental destruction and harm to marginalize communities nationally. Mister Dejanon

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is a brown immigrant from South America you're talking about.

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By the way, why are you listing everybody's race in

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your lawsuit? Also, what is the National Lawyer's Guild. Well,

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it's a leftist alternative to the American Bar Association. In fact,

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the original early members of the National Lawyer's Guild back

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in the thirties there were Commis. They were literally communists,

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and the National Lawyer's Guild allied itself with the Communist Party.

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Another plaintiff Julianne Libengoth Lebnguth. She lives in Durham. She's

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an assistant professor of political science and public policy at

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Elon University. She studies power dynamics that shape global environmental issues.

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And she is white. Not capitalized there, folks. All of

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the other races are capitalized, but white is not. Because

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that's how you level the the millennia of oppression. And

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then finally, William Donovan Stanley. He lives in Charlotte. He

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graduated from cox Mill High School. He has experienced harassment

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from the police and wants to learn more about the facility.

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Mister Stanley is black, so he's just like an interested party.

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Like so he's you get into lawsuit? Okay, all right,

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that'll do it for this episode. Thank you so much

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for listening. I could not do the show without your

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