WEBVTT 1 00:00:12.839 --> 00:00:14.080 Welcome to the end of Effect. 2 00:00:14.160 --> 00:00:20.440 What's your host the Old Wrestling Hu, Charie's Horror and 3 00:00:20.600 --> 00:00:28.760 Alex Kokito We cover Dobby Devons play My Play Madness. 4 00:00:32.200 --> 00:00:36.359 Hello everyone, welcome to episode sixty eight of The Evolve Effect. 5 00:00:36.759 --> 00:00:38.560 I am one of your hosts in the Day's thirty 6 00:00:38.600 --> 00:00:42.799 three along with Shauna Reads Horror as always. Want to 7 00:00:42.799 --> 00:00:45.880 thank the Wrestling super Friendos Network for having us on. 8 00:00:46.600 --> 00:00:49.920 Alex Kakita will be joining us in a moment. How 9 00:00:50.039 --> 00:00:53.039 was your day, your week, your Evolved watching experience? 10 00:00:53.920 --> 00:00:54.799 It was good. 11 00:00:54.920 --> 00:00:59.200 I was loving all of the socials yesterday leading up 12 00:00:59.280 --> 00:01:02.520 into Like it seemed like all of the superstars were 13 00:01:02.520 --> 00:01:05.319 doing something on their socials yesterday, which was a lot 14 00:01:05.400 --> 00:01:05.879 of fun. 15 00:01:06.879 --> 00:01:07.760 So I was excited. 16 00:01:07.799 --> 00:01:08.920 So I knew it was going to be a good 17 00:01:08.920 --> 00:01:11.400 episode when they were all hanging out on social media 18 00:01:11.439 --> 00:01:11.799 all day. 19 00:01:12.519 --> 00:01:14.640 Yeah, that was that was pretty cool to build the 20 00:01:14.719 --> 00:01:18.920 lead up to Evolve Like, like she said, everyone was 21 00:01:18.959 --> 00:01:20.200 building it up, hyping it up. 22 00:01:20.239 --> 00:01:21.120 I was like seeing so. 23 00:01:21.079 --> 00:01:23.920 Many things on like Twitter, and I didn't really go 24 00:01:24.000 --> 00:01:26.280 on Instagram that much yesterday because I didn't want to 25 00:01:26.319 --> 00:01:28.719 be spoiled about too much. But just the promos and 26 00:01:28.719 --> 00:01:34.920 everything was good, Capri uh, lady luck it was it Sloan, 27 00:01:35.000 --> 00:01:36.920 Sloan Jacobs. Yeah, everybody was doing their part. 28 00:01:37.359 --> 00:01:39.400 Even Wren was in there. 29 00:01:39.480 --> 00:01:42.840 Yeah. Yeah, everybody was thrown in her hat in the ring. 30 00:01:42.959 --> 00:01:45.239 So that was that was pretty cool, all right. 31 00:01:45.359 --> 00:01:48.959 So let's see we had another I guess now it's 32 00:01:49.000 --> 00:01:52.280 not even like another. We had another another code open, 33 00:01:52.319 --> 00:01:55.640 which is the norm, but it's always different code opening. 34 00:01:55.799 --> 00:01:59.319 So this time we had Sloan just basically setting up 35 00:01:59.359 --> 00:02:01.680 the party. For the most part, we didn't get the 36 00:02:01.719 --> 00:02:04.599 normal rundown of the whole show, just the rundown of 37 00:02:04.640 --> 00:02:08.439 this mega event that's about to happen on Evolve this 38 00:02:08.520 --> 00:02:10.400 evening for the keta lines and how great the keta 39 00:02:10.439 --> 00:02:12.000 lines is and blah blah blah. 40 00:02:12.039 --> 00:02:14.479 So I actually, I actually liked that. That was pretty cool. 41 00:02:14.520 --> 00:02:16.319 It was a little different, just because now we started 42 00:02:16.319 --> 00:02:18.199 get used to run down. They said, Okay, nope, it's 43 00:02:18.240 --> 00:02:20.560 the most important thing on earth and that's all I'm 44 00:02:20.560 --> 00:02:22.280 going to talk about. I don't care about anything else 45 00:02:22.280 --> 00:02:24.360 that goes on the show. So who would you think 46 00:02:24.360 --> 00:02:25.120 about this opening? 47 00:02:25.639 --> 00:02:27.599 I liked it because I think it really tied into 48 00:02:27.599 --> 00:02:32.120 everything we had seen online earlier. I love the fact 49 00:02:32.319 --> 00:02:34.840 with the cold open because I think it's a good 50 00:02:34.879 --> 00:02:37.560 way to kind of introduce people to evolve that they 51 00:02:37.599 --> 00:02:41.759 don't know what's going on. I've always enjoyed that, so 52 00:02:42.360 --> 00:02:44.080 I kind of thought there would have been a little 53 00:02:44.080 --> 00:02:47.639 bit more foreshadowing with Sloan in the celebration with her 54 00:02:47.759 --> 00:02:50.439 doing it, so it was really great. So it kind 55 00:02:50.439 --> 00:02:52.240 of led to the entire like I knew this was 56 00:02:52.280 --> 00:02:55.879 going to be dogs and cats living in chaos happening. 57 00:02:56.000 --> 00:02:58.960 But yeah, I love the cold open and I love 58 00:02:58.960 --> 00:03:00.879 the fact that someone different every week. 59 00:03:01.000 --> 00:03:02.479 Also, it's not the same. 60 00:03:02.560 --> 00:03:05.960 It's not Thatcher saying hey here's what's happening, or Blake 61 00:03:06.039 --> 00:03:08.879 coming out, but it's someone different every week. 62 00:03:08.960 --> 00:03:10.680 I think really adds to that. 63 00:03:10.639 --> 00:03:13.599 Because it introduces the superstar is a little bit more 64 00:03:13.599 --> 00:03:15.599 to the people that are just tuning into avall for 65 00:03:15.639 --> 00:03:19.120 the first time, or you know, are those casual watchers. 66 00:03:19.479 --> 00:03:21.800 Yeah, I think that, like like the comic books Twitter 67 00:03:22.120 --> 00:03:24.400 used to be back in my day as a kid, 68 00:03:24.560 --> 00:03:27.800 it's always somebody's first comic. It's always someone's first evance. 69 00:03:27.840 --> 00:03:29.639 It's it's on TV. So it's a good way, like 70 00:03:29.680 --> 00:03:32.120 you said, that introduced to people and the cold open. 71 00:03:32.199 --> 00:03:35.759 It always has something to do with the episode. 72 00:03:35.840 --> 00:03:37.800 It's something that you're about to watch, so you could 73 00:03:37.840 --> 00:03:39.639 kind of go into a cold it's almost like a 74 00:03:39.879 --> 00:03:43.319 recap almost sometimes, but yeah, you can be your very 75 00:03:43.360 --> 00:03:44.879 first episode. You don't know what's going on, but we 76 00:03:44.919 --> 00:03:46.240 know something important's about to happen. 77 00:03:46.680 --> 00:03:49.919 So that was good because I think a lot of 78 00:03:49.960 --> 00:03:51.919 times on the main you know, if you're watching the 79 00:03:51.919 --> 00:03:54.639 main roster, it's just mainly that recap of what's happened, 80 00:03:54.680 --> 00:03:57.919 not what's gonna happen. So I like that it's kind 81 00:03:57.919 --> 00:04:01.919 of like, here's what's happening, continuing with this storyline. 82 00:04:02.439 --> 00:04:05.599 Yeah, and like you're saying, it's also different than what 83 00:04:05.639 --> 00:04:09.360 every show is doing because most wrestling shows, even though 84 00:04:09.479 --> 00:04:11.680 the graphics might be different, but the formula is pretty 85 00:04:11.719 --> 00:04:14.840 much the same. Even on NXT, it's it just looks 86 00:04:14.879 --> 00:04:17.079 a little bit different, but it's the same formula, like, oh, 87 00:04:17.160 --> 00:04:19.399 this is what kind of happened last week, and may 88 00:04:19.480 --> 00:04:23.079 were introduced some matches that we didn't tell you about beforehand, 89 00:04:23.120 --> 00:04:24.959 like they always do in the ww. 90 00:04:25.319 --> 00:04:28.000 NXT's a lot better than the main roster Main Roster. 91 00:04:28.079 --> 00:04:29.800 Sometimes you don't know it till like day of at 92 00:04:29.879 --> 00:04:32.199 least NXC, they kind of promote it and you'll have 93 00:04:32.240 --> 00:04:36.160 some surprises, but for most part, the big stuff they promote. 94 00:04:36.360 --> 00:04:38.360 So let me see what happens next. Oh, I believe 95 00:04:38.360 --> 00:04:40.319 next was the very first match. 96 00:04:40.879 --> 00:04:44.279 Sort of, Yes, it was sort of the very first 97 00:04:44.279 --> 00:04:47.399 match because we come up with the mod Squad just 98 00:04:47.439 --> 00:04:49.839 coming out because you know, it's hot boyd summer and everything, 99 00:04:49.879 --> 00:04:53.959 so the mod Squad comes out there. Basically Max ab 100 00:04:54.000 --> 00:04:56.759 were just hyping up the crew ta about how have a. 101 00:04:56.759 --> 00:04:59.079 Good job they did last week and blah blah blah. 102 00:04:59.240 --> 00:05:02.920 That's how it starred off than they actually. I guess mogg. 103 00:05:03.160 --> 00:05:04.720 I guess I'm using it as a verb now. 104 00:05:05.199 --> 00:05:08.199 Yeah, I guessing. I still go final fantasy. 105 00:05:08.240 --> 00:05:10.720 Every time they say mog squad. My head still goes, 106 00:05:11.560 --> 00:05:14.560 oh yeah, the mog. Like every time I'm like, we're 107 00:05:14.600 --> 00:05:16.160 getting a Google what is happening? 108 00:05:16.480 --> 00:05:16.759 Yeah? 109 00:05:16.879 --> 00:05:19.920 So would you think about this whole like the open 110 00:05:20.160 --> 00:05:22.600 before we get into like, uh, what leads up to 111 00:05:22.639 --> 00:05:23.519 the first match? 112 00:05:23.680 --> 00:05:26.279 I thought it was really good because I mean, they're mogging. 113 00:05:26.360 --> 00:05:28.600 I looked it up on Urban Dictionary. It's something about 114 00:05:28.680 --> 00:05:30.600 I don't I don't remember, and it fits with them, 115 00:05:30.600 --> 00:05:34.000 they're just this taunting. They think they're better than everybody else, 116 00:05:34.040 --> 00:05:36.360 So they got to come out and and talk about it. 117 00:05:36.360 --> 00:05:38.920 But it was really good to to What I liked 118 00:05:38.959 --> 00:05:42.439 about it was for people that haven't been watching the 119 00:05:42.519 --> 00:05:45.879 way they did it, Max was able to introduce every 120 00:05:45.920 --> 00:05:49.319 single and it was great because it was a taunt 121 00:05:49.360 --> 00:05:51.279 about how good we are. But if you haven't been 122 00:05:51.319 --> 00:05:53.279 watching or you don't know who was who, it was 123 00:05:53.319 --> 00:05:55.800 a great introduction to say, hey, so I think it 124 00:05:55.879 --> 00:05:59.720 worked two ways like that hunt, but let's introduce you 125 00:05:59.759 --> 00:06:02.480 to everybody in case you don't know who everybody is, 126 00:06:02.480 --> 00:06:04.720 which we don't get that a lot on the other 127 00:06:04.920 --> 00:06:08.399 rosters we've got a group like like take Dark State 128 00:06:08.439 --> 00:06:10.319 for example, they just come out as the three of them. 129 00:06:10.319 --> 00:06:12.519 There's no real introduction like on who they. 130 00:06:12.439 --> 00:06:14.759 Are like this, they assume that you already know. 131 00:06:15.360 --> 00:06:17.720 Yeah, and here it's like, hey, let's do a refresh 132 00:06:17.920 --> 00:06:22.120 on who everybody is in the group, which is why 133 00:06:22.160 --> 00:06:25.439 I liked it for the Twofold, for the storyline, and 134 00:06:25.519 --> 00:06:27.920 for the hey here's who everybody is. 135 00:06:29.040 --> 00:06:30.720 Yeah, yeah, I agree with that. 136 00:06:30.759 --> 00:06:33.879 And also we now know there's a four person groupment 137 00:06:33.879 --> 00:06:36.439 you always usually you have your leader, you have your 138 00:06:36.480 --> 00:06:38.480 tag team, and maybe you're enforced. 139 00:06:38.519 --> 00:06:40.360 And they were able to pretty much establish all right, 140 00:06:40.639 --> 00:06:44.759 Santi ball, they're the tag team of the group. Well, 141 00:06:45.399 --> 00:06:49.000 Valor Valor Valor. 142 00:06:49.160 --> 00:06:51.639 Hey no, and I his and his course his real 143 00:06:51.720 --> 00:06:55.240 name is Jimmy, so I always say Jimmy. 144 00:06:57.000 --> 00:06:57.199 Yeah. 145 00:06:57.279 --> 00:06:57.399 Oh. 146 00:06:57.800 --> 00:07:00.319 He also posted on a social media that. 147 00:07:00.279 --> 00:07:03.959 His was a pretty funny too, uh yesterday, but I 148 00:07:04.000 --> 00:07:06.480 caught it caught a little bit later. But uh yeah, 149 00:07:06.680 --> 00:07:08.160 I think they did a really good job of just 150 00:07:08.199 --> 00:07:12.199 introducing everybody and the role in the group and what 151 00:07:12.240 --> 00:07:16.439 they're kind of about. I like that, but I might 152 00:07:16.480 --> 00:07:19.759 have liked it. You know who did not like it? 153 00:07:19.839 --> 00:07:22.839 The foreman, Foreman Thatcher did not like it at all. 154 00:07:23.120 --> 00:07:26.040 And oh, before I even get to that, we had 155 00:07:26.079 --> 00:07:32.199 a special guest announcer special edition of Evolved, Welcome back 156 00:07:32.600 --> 00:07:36.000 Robert Stone, the Boss Stone, and he's a little bit different. 157 00:07:36.399 --> 00:07:39.519 The commentary is still the same, but he is for 158 00:07:39.519 --> 00:07:43.040 those who don't know, uh, the foreman. The general manager 159 00:07:43.040 --> 00:07:47.240 of Evolve is Timmy Thatcher, but Evolve is still under NXT. 160 00:07:47.839 --> 00:07:50.120 Robert Stone is a general manager of NXT, which means 161 00:07:50.160 --> 00:07:51.600 he is Thatcher's boss. 162 00:07:52.120 --> 00:07:54.040 So so we get that like out of way. 163 00:07:54.160 --> 00:07:56.639 But he used to be on commentary for the longest 164 00:07:56.639 --> 00:07:58.399 time before he got elevated, so it was nice to 165 00:07:58.399 --> 00:08:00.920 see him back. And I just in my just imagine 166 00:08:01.199 --> 00:08:03.720 it's because of the Kia Liance celebration. Who knows why, 167 00:08:03.800 --> 00:08:05.639 what really why he was really there, but it was 168 00:08:05.639 --> 00:08:07.000 a good So. 169 00:08:06.920 --> 00:08:08.920 Here's what upset me with his comment, Like, I was 170 00:08:08.959 --> 00:08:11.720 excited to see him back, so he was like, Hey, 171 00:08:11.800 --> 00:08:14.680 I haven't been watching what's going on? I came down 172 00:08:14.759 --> 00:08:18.120 to see some of the talent, right, which makes sense. 173 00:08:18.160 --> 00:08:19.800 Some of the talent's been doing this back and forth. 174 00:08:19.839 --> 00:08:22.560 So it was like, you haven't been watching, so you're 175 00:08:22.600 --> 00:08:24.439 not watching what you're supposed to be in charge of 176 00:08:24.480 --> 00:08:25.199 as a boss. 177 00:08:25.639 --> 00:08:27.800 And also half of this talent's been showing up on 178 00:08:27.839 --> 00:08:29.439 your roster. What do you mean you don't know what's 179 00:08:29.480 --> 00:08:31.720 been going on. I think he should have been like, hey, 180 00:08:31.879 --> 00:08:34.559 just checking in. You know, I've had a lot of 181 00:08:34.600 --> 00:08:36.200 your people up here. Things have been going on. 182 00:08:36.279 --> 00:08:36.399 Though. 183 00:08:36.440 --> 00:08:38.639 I thought i'd stop it and say hi, but it 184 00:08:38.720 --> 00:08:40.759 kind of made like I don't pay attention to what's 185 00:08:40.759 --> 00:08:41.039 going on. 186 00:08:41.080 --> 00:08:42.639 So I'm down here, I'm looking for talent, and I'm 187 00:08:42.639 --> 00:08:44.759 like you do see the talent. What are you talking 188 00:08:44.960 --> 00:08:45.799 or or what? 189 00:08:46.120 --> 00:08:47.679 It cleaned it up a little bit if he said, oh, 190 00:08:47.679 --> 00:08:50.360 I haven't been able to see him in person, which 191 00:08:50.399 --> 00:08:52.120 would be a little bit like Okay, I caught it 192 00:08:52.200 --> 00:08:52.679 on to me. 193 00:08:52.720 --> 00:08:55.000 Blah blah blah, and you know, another way to promote 194 00:08:55.039 --> 00:08:56.759 t He's like, oh, I can't watch it. 195 00:08:56.679 --> 00:08:57.639 Like live on Wednesdays. 196 00:08:57.639 --> 00:08:59.679 But I go back and I watched the show and 197 00:08:59.720 --> 00:09:01.360 every thing, but I want to come down here and 198 00:09:01.399 --> 00:09:04.080 see with my own two I seated person, because you know, 199 00:09:04.279 --> 00:09:07.320 it is different watching wrestling in person, like when running 200 00:09:07.320 --> 00:09:09.639 it rawls, like people thought it was bad, going to 201 00:09:09.639 --> 00:09:12.480 the extra show is actually pretty fun. Just watching the 202 00:09:12.519 --> 00:09:14.480 crowd and watching it in person. It's a lot better 203 00:09:14.480 --> 00:09:16.440 than watching on TV. If you could believe it. 204 00:09:16.720 --> 00:09:19.279 If you embarrass it, then y'all can take my word 205 00:09:19.279 --> 00:09:19.559 for it. 206 00:09:19.919 --> 00:09:21.559 But yeah, that was the only thing that really upset 207 00:09:21.559 --> 00:09:24.440 me that I was like, that doesn't It's kind of like, oh, 208 00:09:24.480 --> 00:09:26.720 I'm not paying attention, but all your people keep showing 209 00:09:26.759 --> 00:09:27.919 up on my programming. 210 00:09:28.320 --> 00:09:29.879 Yeah, but I don't know who they are. So I 211 00:09:29.919 --> 00:09:30.799 was like, dude, what do you do? 212 00:09:30.919 --> 00:09:32.960 Like I can get the mog squad because they really 213 00:09:32.960 --> 00:09:35.679 haven't been there. But a lot of the other talent, 214 00:09:35.759 --> 00:09:38.440 as we saw this past Tuesday night, every single person 215 00:09:38.480 --> 00:09:40.279 that won on NXT was an evolved person. 216 00:09:40.679 --> 00:09:45.039 This last Tuesday night is like it was we went 217 00:09:45.080 --> 00:09:48.440 to We went from Evolved Junior High to Evolve High School. 218 00:09:48.639 --> 00:09:51.600 As NXT starting to become Evolve High School, it's what's becoming. 219 00:09:51.960 --> 00:09:54.320 And I think I want to kind of like flin 220 00:09:54.399 --> 00:09:58.480 through some stuff again. All of the backstage segments was 221 00:09:58.559 --> 00:10:02.440 evolved people except for me, said Mason was really on 222 00:10:02.559 --> 00:10:05.960 NXT this past week, the only like really non evolved. 223 00:10:05.519 --> 00:10:06.759 Person you had. 224 00:10:06.799 --> 00:10:10.080 Shilah was in a match, but like really it was 225 00:10:10.120 --> 00:10:12.759 Mason and all of the backstage segments and the Winds 226 00:10:13.039 --> 00:10:15.879 was like one of the only non evolved people. 227 00:10:16.399 --> 00:10:16.639 Yeah. 228 00:10:17.240 --> 00:10:19.679 Yeah, So I just had to get that out of 229 00:10:19.679 --> 00:10:22.000 the way because Stone Hitt and everybody knows, I'm a 230 00:10:22.039 --> 00:10:24.919 mark for Robert Stone, even back when he was managing 231 00:10:24.919 --> 00:10:27.240 the Outliers, even though the out Liars team that make 232 00:10:27.279 --> 00:10:29.759 it on TV at the house shows and he had 233 00:10:29.759 --> 00:10:34.679 them thirty red glowing slippers because that's what they were, 234 00:10:34.919 --> 00:10:36.240 but he was sharp for them and I used to 235 00:10:36.279 --> 00:10:38.600 tag them all the time on Twitter followed me back 236 00:10:38.639 --> 00:10:40.919 back then, so that was actually pretty cool, like way 237 00:10:40.960 --> 00:10:45.519 before I got into this streaming stuff. But anyway, for Foreman, 238 00:10:45.600 --> 00:10:50.279 Thatcher shows up and he is not pleased about the 239 00:10:50.759 --> 00:10:55.159 about the Shenana kids from last week, even though in 240 00:10:55.200 --> 00:10:56.759 the Mosquad defense they. 241 00:10:56.720 --> 00:10:59.720 Really didn't do anything any too dasherly they were kind 242 00:10:59.720 --> 00:11:04.759 of art, but that like it. So basically he was like, okay, 243 00:11:04.840 --> 00:11:08.200 y'all and they were bragging about nonether people got eliminated 244 00:11:08.200 --> 00:11:11.480 from the week before, so that's was like, oh, okay, 245 00:11:11.759 --> 00:11:13.799 no one got a limited all right, so we need 246 00:11:13.840 --> 00:11:18.720 a tag team the the basically, I don't know, show 247 00:11:18.759 --> 00:11:20.240 you something or put your place with last ee. It 248 00:11:20.279 --> 00:11:24.240 wasn't a fluke and lo and behold we have noam 249 00:11:24.279 --> 00:11:28.879 Dar and Romeo Moreno shows up, which was which was good. 250 00:11:30.759 --> 00:11:33.039 I actually I actually did like this match. What did 251 00:11:33.080 --> 00:11:34.080 you What did you think of this match? 252 00:11:34.120 --> 00:11:34.399 Before? 253 00:11:34.480 --> 00:11:35.200 I really liked it. 254 00:11:35.279 --> 00:11:37.960 I think it's really solidifying them as a tag team 255 00:11:38.159 --> 00:11:40.039 on both brands, which is good. 256 00:11:40.080 --> 00:11:43.200 So I think it's kind of funny. On NXT they're 257 00:11:43.240 --> 00:11:45.600 like Romeo's like, please be my tag partner. 258 00:11:45.600 --> 00:11:47.159 Look, we can do this and we can be really 259 00:11:47.159 --> 00:11:49.320 good and on NXT we're like, well we're here, We're 260 00:11:49.320 --> 00:11:49.919 a tag team. 261 00:11:50.279 --> 00:11:53.360 So I find that kind of funny. I really enjoyed it. 262 00:11:53.399 --> 00:11:56.519 I thought it was great another showing for them, and 263 00:11:56.559 --> 00:11:58.960 I thought for Santi and Jakari too. 264 00:11:59.080 --> 00:12:01.639 You know, it was like the Mob Squad this whole segment. 265 00:12:01.279 --> 00:12:03.639 With both of those math they needed to take the loss, 266 00:12:03.679 --> 00:12:05.840 like at some point they needed to take the loss, 267 00:12:06.159 --> 00:12:08.159 and I thought this was a great way for them 268 00:12:08.200 --> 00:12:11.559 to take the loss. So I found that very entertaining. 269 00:12:12.720 --> 00:12:14.840 I'm just so glad Noam Dar's back. I hope he 270 00:12:14.879 --> 00:12:18.879 stays healthy so we can keep him around for a 271 00:12:18.879 --> 00:12:22.159 little bit. Please don't be injury prone again, please. 272 00:12:23.120 --> 00:12:23.960 But I think it just. 273 00:12:23.960 --> 00:12:27.840 Really solidifies him and Romeo and I just like the 274 00:12:28.039 --> 00:12:31.799 friendship aspect they have on Evolve and it's that mentor 275 00:12:32.000 --> 00:12:34.440 expect on NXT. So it's really fun to see the 276 00:12:34.519 --> 00:12:37.600 two different like workings of them. 277 00:12:38.000 --> 00:12:40.519 Yeah, I agree with that, and I think I could 278 00:12:40.559 --> 00:12:42.519 be mistaken, but the way it kind of looks like, 279 00:12:42.720 --> 00:12:46.320 I wonder if Noam Dar has the Andre Chase. 280 00:12:46.159 --> 00:12:50.320 Role now because of a segment we see later m. 281 00:12:50.440 --> 00:12:53.679 HM and we have a nod if you know, it's evolved. 282 00:12:53.679 --> 00:12:58.399 There's not too many older people unevolved and everything, So 283 00:12:58.480 --> 00:13:01.240 I wonder if he's like a litti batto type where 284 00:13:01.480 --> 00:13:04.120 he comes in like more like to Menser or kind 285 00:13:04.120 --> 00:13:06.399 of coached them up type of differ. But he's still 286 00:13:06.399 --> 00:13:08.799 a good wrestler, so I can wrestle too, and he 287 00:13:09.000 --> 00:13:11.039 can guide Moreno, like you said, the mentser thing, but 288 00:13:11.159 --> 00:13:13.639 also like the rest with people. And for those of 289 00:13:13.679 --> 00:13:15.919 you who don't know Thatcher, because there might be somebody new, 290 00:13:15.960 --> 00:13:20.679 listen to the podcast Thatcher's also considered the player coach. 291 00:13:21.000 --> 00:13:22.320 Even though he is a general manager. 292 00:13:22.399 --> 00:13:26.360 He still wrestles mostly on the independent circuit with the 293 00:13:26.480 --> 00:13:29.000 ID guys, but he has wrestled a couple of times 294 00:13:29.080 --> 00:13:29.600 and evolved. 295 00:13:29.679 --> 00:13:33.879 It happens. Doesn't happen that often, but it happens. So 296 00:13:34.519 --> 00:13:35.559 just yeah that out there. 297 00:13:35.879 --> 00:13:38.000 When I saw him at the ID showcase, he was 298 00:13:38.159 --> 00:13:39.960 the person he was wrestling, was going to get a 299 00:13:40.000 --> 00:13:43.039 contract if they beat him. And then that weekend he 300 00:13:43.240 --> 00:13:45.000 was doing a two days of scouting. 301 00:13:45.679 --> 00:13:48.080 So whenever they do those, you know, for someone out 302 00:13:48.080 --> 00:13:50.080 there that's like, hey, I want, you know, to get 303 00:13:50.360 --> 00:13:52.559 my name in front of that. See if those ID 304 00:13:52.679 --> 00:13:56.000 showcases watch because Thatcher was doing those matches for scouting 305 00:13:56.159 --> 00:13:57.120 at those showcases. 306 00:13:57.480 --> 00:14:00.720 Okay, yeah, I went to an ID showcase myself last 307 00:14:00.720 --> 00:14:04.200 summer at Thatcher he was wrestling at that event too. 308 00:14:04.679 --> 00:14:06.679 That's a big dude he is. 309 00:14:07.320 --> 00:14:10.399 And I asked him and I talked to him. 310 00:14:10.399 --> 00:14:11.840 I didn't get the interview on camera, but I was 311 00:14:11.840 --> 00:14:13.320 talking to him because I was really nervous because he 312 00:14:13.399 --> 00:14:14.440 was just hanging out and I was like, oh my gosh, 313 00:14:14.480 --> 00:14:15.320 I can't asking questions. 314 00:14:15.799 --> 00:14:17.799 Super sweet, so nice, so funny. 315 00:14:19.279 --> 00:14:22.919 Yeah, So, speaking of Thatcher, after this loss, we have 316 00:14:23.120 --> 00:14:26.720 the mock squad licking their runs, picking up the pieces, 317 00:14:27.240 --> 00:14:30.840 dragging each other to the locker room. But Thatcher's like, 318 00:14:31.399 --> 00:14:33.759 he's not done with mock squad yet, So not so fast? 319 00:14:33.919 --> 00:14:37.120 Where you at think y'all going? So who was Ball 320 00:14:37.200 --> 00:14:38.039 in the match? Last week? 321 00:14:38.080 --> 00:14:42.840 We had Ball, Santi and Valor with Max Abras on 322 00:14:42.919 --> 00:14:45.360 the outside. So we just had a match with Ball. 323 00:14:45.720 --> 00:14:47.559 It's Santi, I mean, c J. 324 00:14:47.759 --> 00:14:50.600 Valor, it's your turn now, Like out of nowhere, they're 325 00:14:50.639 --> 00:14:51.759 carrying their wounded to the back. 326 00:14:51.879 --> 00:14:53.960 He's like, no, you have a match now too. And 327 00:14:55.879 --> 00:14:57.559 Alex pretty much told me on my stream I was 328 00:14:57.639 --> 00:14:59.440 doing my life. She was like, it's gonna be CJ 329 00:14:59.639 --> 00:15:02.000 versus JD. He spread it up, but I couldn't think. 330 00:15:01.919 --> 00:15:05.919 Of what it was. Oh, hold on all that we meet? 331 00:15:10.080 --> 00:15:12.279 I don't know. My backup phone just rang. Oh no, 332 00:15:12.840 --> 00:15:14.360 it's like a spam f Like I don't need to 333 00:15:14.360 --> 00:15:15.720 pick it up, and like no one has a number, 334 00:15:15.759 --> 00:15:21.279 but spam must have it all it. Oh wait, go 335 00:15:21.320 --> 00:15:23.440 ahead and talk about this spet Okay. 336 00:15:23.559 --> 00:15:27.799 Yeah, So we did see and I will say coming 337 00:15:27.840 --> 00:15:29.200 out and they're like they're going to do a match 338 00:15:29.240 --> 00:15:30.840 and I was like, who is this match going to 339 00:15:30.879 --> 00:15:34.039 be between? And then all of a sudden, the Dark 340 00:15:34.120 --> 00:15:36.879 State music hit and I went, are you freaking kidding me? 341 00:15:36.960 --> 00:15:40.879 We're doing Cutler James again? Like I literally looked at 342 00:15:40.919 --> 00:15:42.840 my husband and I said, why are we doing Cutler 343 00:15:42.960 --> 00:15:43.480 James again? 344 00:15:43.639 --> 00:15:44.679 Can we not see? 345 00:15:45.440 --> 00:15:47.720 And I was like what are we doing? Are we 346 00:15:47.799 --> 00:15:48.919 trying to give him a character? 347 00:15:49.279 --> 00:15:51.480 Like what is happening? I was like, there's plenty of 348 00:15:51.559 --> 00:15:54.559 other people. I think at this point we should have 349 00:15:54.639 --> 00:15:58.519 had someone from one point, oh or you know, something else, 350 00:15:58.639 --> 00:16:01.720 not Cutler James again, And like I was like, can 351 00:16:01.759 --> 00:16:04.639 we move on? But it was really good because they 352 00:16:04.679 --> 00:16:08.320 were just like, oh man, and it was a good match. 353 00:16:08.440 --> 00:16:11.120 I see J's a great wrestler. He you know, he 354 00:16:11.240 --> 00:16:13.519 does have that one indie title. I can't remember which 355 00:16:13.559 --> 00:16:16.679 one it is, but I just the only thing that 356 00:16:16.759 --> 00:16:18.120 got me on it was I was just like, why 357 00:16:18.240 --> 00:16:19.519 is it Cutler James again? 358 00:16:19.679 --> 00:16:21.200 And in the end, you know, it was fun. 359 00:16:21.279 --> 00:16:23.159 We had a heel versus heel match, which you don't 360 00:16:23.200 --> 00:16:25.840 get that that often, so that was gonna be like, hey, 361 00:16:26.000 --> 00:16:29.000 how is this gonna, you know, play out? But in 362 00:16:29.080 --> 00:16:33.279 the end, Cutler did get the win. And I will 363 00:16:33.360 --> 00:16:35.559 say one thing I did love the whole entire time 364 00:16:35.799 --> 00:16:39.159 is every time they shot to the couch and Thatcher 365 00:16:39.360 --> 00:16:43.120 was just staring them down and I'm like, are you 366 00:16:43.279 --> 00:16:46.080 aggravated because of the security thing and then what all? 367 00:16:46.279 --> 00:16:49.799 But the look on his face was just like this 368 00:16:50.039 --> 00:16:52.799 is great and I Am just gonna stare a hole 369 00:16:52.879 --> 00:16:54.000 through your soul right now. 370 00:16:55.000 --> 00:16:57.039 Yeah. When I was watching it too, I was thinking, 371 00:16:57.159 --> 00:16:59.639 I'm like, is this a heel versus heel match? Or 372 00:16:59.879 --> 00:17:03.559 is Cutler James or they're trying to reposition him somehow? 373 00:17:05.160 --> 00:17:06.680 And I think we were talking about this on the 374 00:17:07.519 --> 00:17:12.599 Evolved Review show that's at nine pm on PUWF Wrestling 375 00:17:12.920 --> 00:17:16.039 on YouTube live. So if you want to check that out, 376 00:17:18.079 --> 00:17:20.480 how he doesn't really have like a personality, like he's 377 00:17:20.640 --> 00:17:21.960 like kind of like a stone cold killer. 378 00:17:21.960 --> 00:17:23.960 And I wonder if they did that. 379 00:17:24.599 --> 00:17:26.599 Because they're like, Okay, he's a heel blah blah blah. 380 00:17:26.799 --> 00:17:29.079 But if he's doing this, oh, he's just he's just 381 00:17:29.160 --> 00:17:32.279 a tool at this point, Like he doesn't hate them 382 00:17:32.400 --> 00:17:34.240 or anything. He's just Okay, I'm just out here to 383 00:17:34.359 --> 00:17:36.640 do a job. And what I do is I hurt people. 384 00:17:36.880 --> 00:17:40.519 Because he was stowed the entire time, almost like almost 385 00:17:40.559 --> 00:17:43.160 like Thatcher. He's just wrestling, doing his thing. He's not 386 00:17:43.200 --> 00:17:43.759 getting mad. 387 00:17:43.920 --> 00:17:45.839 He's just just a machine. 388 00:17:46.200 --> 00:17:47.920 And I did like the fact that Thatcher's out there 389 00:17:48.000 --> 00:17:52.480 for both matches because even though you had the mob squad, okay, 390 00:17:52.599 --> 00:17:54.200 if the ref doesn't the same thing, that's still the 391 00:17:54.240 --> 00:17:58.079 general manager. So you're not gonna do any shenanigans because 392 00:17:58.119 --> 00:18:00.720 he's right there looking at that's going on. 393 00:18:00.799 --> 00:18:02.039 You're not going to get anything by him. 394 00:18:02.039 --> 00:18:04.119 So I did like that because they couldn't really do 395 00:18:04.200 --> 00:18:07.720 anyan against this time. They did one thing attack much, 396 00:18:07.759 --> 00:18:10.079 but I can't really say it was it's kind of 397 00:18:10.160 --> 00:18:11.640 got one of the guys out the way, or I 398 00:18:11.680 --> 00:18:13.960 think they pulled they pulled somebody out the rings, so 399 00:18:14.000 --> 00:18:14.680 he didn't get pinned. 400 00:18:14.680 --> 00:18:18.359 That was it. So it's a little something, but that's 401 00:18:18.519 --> 00:18:23.240