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better than Blaine Anderson and his crew. It's a great

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day to be a BYU Cougar.

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Speaker 4: You've got a.

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Speaker 5: Three game winning streak versus your rivals up on the hill.

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You're seven to zero on the season, top twenty five

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and trending to become the favorite. Maybe you are the

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favorite now to head to Arlington be the Big twelve champion.

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You could have a hangover, no doubt about it, but

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you enjoyed the weekend with friends and family members.

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Speaker 4: You stuck it to your friends, your.

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Speaker 5: Neighbors, your co workers at the good old fashioned traditional

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water cooler at your work. It feels good to have

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bragging rights. It feels good to know that the tides

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have turned in the rivalry. That all it took, all

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it took was just a conference affiliation move.

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Speaker 4: That's all. It took. Thirteen years of.

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Speaker 5: Competitive advantage for the Utes down the drain. Now BYU's

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in the driver's seat. Now BYU has the resources. Now

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BYU has the conference power, association and affiliation. Now BYU

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has the nil. Now BYU is at the top of

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the food chain and the pack former PAC twelve affiliated

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Utes now part of our Big twelve family. They're reeling.

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They're still a good team, They're still competitive. But Kyle Whittingham, Okay,

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his tenure is in its twilight right. He's probably most

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likely gonna retire after this year. Why because the athletic

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department and the administration probably want to see new blood

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three in a row. Didn't know if it would happen,

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thought maybe they had something up their sleeve. But BYU

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got the win under the lights of Leavel. It was glorious,

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It was fantastic, Klonie Sataki doing it with class, doing

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it the right way. And the petty petulance of the

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Utes continues to be showcased, not only in.

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Speaker 4: The pregame, but in the postgame. You had a kicker

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booting it through the uprights in the middle of the prayer.

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Speaker 5: You had coaches, players stepping up to the pulpit and

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not necessarily losing with class, not taking accountability, and so

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BYU congratulation, BYU fans, congratulations, You're in the driver's seat.

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Speaker 4: Now, what will you do with it now?

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Speaker 5: As Kialani stated in the post game with his team,

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will you stay humble, stay hungry or will you be

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hungover after this win like you were last year and

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lose two straight to formidable foes in the Big twelve.

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Speaker 4: Let's break it all down here on your utai.

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Speaker 4: Right guys, let's fire up ESPN.

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Speaker 5: The fans starting lineup so I can introduce you to

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my co host and the rest of the star set

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of cast joining us for these Monday edition of Cougar Sports.

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Speaker 4: Coming in after.

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Speaker 5: A fantastic weekend spend with friends and family members.

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Speaker 6: As welcome in theod g Man Brandon c Gurnie.

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Speaker 4: Brandon, you were more of the glory days in the

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eighties and nineties, right, You got to really revel the

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the rivalry in those years.

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Speaker 7: And then you started covering the codes in about two

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thousand and three, and that's when everything fell apart and

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Utah made their name going here in the wivalry.

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Speaker 4: Now the tides in turn. Now you're a part of

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the new era of YU football, this new era.

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Speaker 1: And I have so many thoughts about this game. I'm

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gonna take off on your point is I thought it

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would take a lot longer for me with you to

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me where it is right now. I thought it takes

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more than five years. Not does it happened in the

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second year of Big twelve to the that team last

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year was very very good. It was some place a way.

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The culture on this team is phenomenal. And the reason

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why B Way You's been able to do this and

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make the jump and the rapid amount of time it

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has is because Bayu is extraordinary. B WAYU has extraordinary

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facets to its program, fan support number one, which which

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extends to donors to recruiting reachs. There are extraordinary aspects

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strengths the B way You has that have been able

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to be made relevant on like ever before, and that

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and the fact that they have been able to seize

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on all their potential so quickly is phenomenal. It really is.

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And I want to give credit to Klonie Sataki. There's

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a lot of angles to this game. Klonie Satake, I

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think we said before, he is the perfect coach for

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b YU for what BWAYU is, for what it does

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and the message and all that. Everyone wants to say,

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Oh but Jay hill On, Aaron Roderick and all these Asansisco. Yeah,

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they deserve a lot of props, but who are they

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playing for? Who did they come to b what you

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to coach under? It's Kilanie Satake. He's a welcoming guy.

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He does it his way. Fans, some mans don't like it.

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They don't like how he just talks four minutes about

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his love for Kyle Whittingham.

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Speaker 4: And all that.

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Speaker 1: It's working. It's it's players are globbing onto that you

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coach to your strengths. Kilani has certain strengths, extraordinary strengths

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that are unique to him. He stay true to those

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strengths and is realizing a lot of success really quickly

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where they're just afforded the same assets that all the

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big schools have, plus the extraordinary attributes. The b way

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he has congruent with Kilanie's method, and you're seeing a lot.

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You're seeing it, You're seeing it absolutely on that football field.

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Culture on that team is extraordinary and it's really fun

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to cover. It's really just.

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Speaker 4: Clawnie was bursting in that postgame.

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Speaker 1: He was as jazzed up and just ready to go

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because he's seen all that work, he's seen it come

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to fruition and to win that game in the manner

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it did and going forward and this is just the beginning.

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I'm telling you guys, this is just the beginning. Recruitings

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singing uptick, You're gonna continue to see that, and I'm

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hard pressed to see where Utah is gonna be able

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to match up with b whata you heading forward? I'm

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really really struggling to see that. You better hope that

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big ten invite comes. I don't think it is. That's

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your only salvation. I'm telling you right now, and I'm

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stating this objectively. Utah has a lot of issues and

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b Way You is the premier program in the state,

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and I don't think anyone would disagree with that. I

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think even you fans are seeing that. So yeah, it's

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a great day to be a Cougar fan.

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Speaker 5: It is indeed a great day to be a Cougar fan.

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Great to spend the time with you discussing this game.

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Let's also welcome in Brett's bringing the hammer hammer Time

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show what's up Hammertime.

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Speaker 8: I've never been to a bou Utah game. I did

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not grow up in the state of Utah. I grow

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up a BYU fan, and so I was so honored

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when my father in law said, hey, it's your turn

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this week, because we all rotate me and all my

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in laws and everybody, and I'm sure you can hear it.

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Speaker 6: It was worth losing the voice.

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Speaker 8: I did want to watch the game on TV, so

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I felt like I could understand everything that was going on,

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but he was like, my wife said, no, you got

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Speaker 6: The Holy War in all its glory. You gotta be there,

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you gotta be at the game.

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Speaker 8: And so this is my first time experiencing the rivalry

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in the actual stadium. And man, what a first Holy

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War to ever get to go to for me. I

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can't imagine they're all that legendary, but man, that one

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was something special.

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Speaker 5: G Man, it was special in so many ways. Hammer time,

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it was special in so many ways. We're seeing a collijon,

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a colliding, a collision of culture here. One way to

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approach the rivalry, right, that has been the Kyle Whittingham way,

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which has won. It's one at a high level, right,

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Speaker 4: That it is culture? Is the question?

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Speaker 5: Was it the cowitting Ham culture that led them right,

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that that that petty competitivism, competitivism that that.

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Speaker 4: That you.

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Speaker 5: Know, you kind of stiff farm and shun your little

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brother over or is it the Kilani culture and the

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P four affiliation that now Buyu has. And I would

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say that it's more power structure affiliation and access than

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it is culture. But at the same time, you would

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like to win with class and act like you've been

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there before. So when you see time and time again

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over the last decade, okay, kind of a a pettiness

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to the rivalry from the University of Utah. I'll give

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you an example after the twenty twelve game. I don't

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know if you remember this, g Man, but in the

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postgame pressure, it was a late night kick. It was

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going to go into essentially ot and and everyone was wondering, oh, well,

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what's gonna happen if they have to play on Sunday.

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Speaker 4: Some people were wondering that on.

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Speaker 5: The on the hill side of things, and Kyle Whittingham,

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you know, stated in his postgame pressure this is he

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doesn't have to go here, he doesn't have to go

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down this path. Right it was, he states, I'm pretty

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sure that last kick was at eleven fifty nine. It

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was the missfield goal. Remember when the fans were rushing

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the field. If it goes over to overtime, do we

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have to delay and go on Monday or what That's

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what he said in the postgame press conference.

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Speaker 4: I remember.

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Speaker 5: That's what he came and that's what he said, And

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so when prior to this game, your kicker was kicking

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it through the uprights during the prayer. I mean, that's

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just that's an extension of the culture that has been

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created up on the Hill since Kyle took over in

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five and for whatever reason, that's how they've that's how

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they've navigated, that's how they've abided by it, that's how

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they've led by it. And that's from top to bottom.

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That's just not from Kyle. That's from the leadership. And

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we've seen that time and time again.

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Speaker 1: And it affected the team last year. There's an arrogance

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in that program. I don't know if they've come down yet.

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Arrogance permeated that program. They did not like that station,

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they did not like their predicament, and I don't know

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if they're ever gonna get out of that funk. Because

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congruent with that, you're taking losses to your rivals. You're

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just still a really good football team. I'm very interested

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to see how that team rebounds after this loss. They

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play Colorado next week, very interested to see what happens

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with that. But the foundation Kilane's built and just the

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uptick and what he's been able to do. It's attracting players,

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and it's a better method. It's just better. And what

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drives me crazy is I buy everything Colonie says about

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Kyle Whittingham. I buy j Hill practically pride talking about

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Kyle Whittingham and the influence he has on him. He

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is an extraordinary individual in so many ways. And I

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just think, and this was my message to out the

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whole week. A lot of people misinterpreted this. What he

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does is beneath him. It's beneath him. Just rise above it.

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The pettiness, I don't know. I does it play with

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his team?

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Speaker 5: Do you think it's more Kyle or do you think

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it's more the institution that he's behind, but.

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Speaker 1: That he could rise above that, because to me, he

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is the best thing going for Utah. It's not the admin,

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it's not anything. It's because he's a hell of the

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football coach. He's done extraordinary things. And to see him

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just kind of delve into the rhetoric and and just

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the playing on Sunday and all that's just beneath them.

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I mean, taking what Kelaney and Jay Hill and everyone

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a developer of men, and I think it is important.

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Speaker 1: I think the look and how you represent that university

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and who you are is important. And I think that's

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one thing Kilanie understands that Kyle does not. And that's

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why I think that Kilanie is the coach of the

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premier program in the state right now. That's just one facet.

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But that's what drives me crazy. It really does, because

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I I want to like Kyle Whittingham. I think there's

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a lot of admirable qualities about the guy, but the

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way he presents himself, I just I just think it's

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beneath him. I think it's beneath him. And and that's

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kind of been my point this entire week.

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Speaker 8: Let me ask you this, do you think if Utah

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wins that game, do you think Kyle Whittingham says all

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the same things about Kilani that Kilanie had to say

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about Kyle. Because I don't know that I do, because

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Kyle didn't really say a whole lot about Kilani in

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his Monday presser until he was asked about the relationships.

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Speaker 6: So that's why I kind of think if Utah wins

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that game.

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Speaker 8: I don't think Kyle gives Killanne the credit that Kilanie

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gave him.

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Speaker 4: I think there's probably some truth to that.

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Speaker 5: I mean, we're projecting, but at the same time, he

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hasn't led us to believe in any of his actions

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that that's something he would go out of his way

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to do and or Killannie. In the postgame went off

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for four minutes about Kyle all class, all the time,

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and so obviously it was a great win. It was

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actually more of a convincing win than the score actually dictates,

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because I do think even though Kilanie says all these

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nice things, he was trying to put a nail in

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the coffin. He was trying to, you know, just say, hey,

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we're the dominant team. Now we've taken over three in

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a row. There was a quote from Aaron Roderick in

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the elevator. Right in the elevator as they were coming down,

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he whispered to the media members there, Hey, three in

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a row, that's a streak. I think he said to

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the media members there, and I think media members may

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have quoted him. But two ranked teams like you can

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argue that this is the biggest rivalry game in.

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Speaker 4: BYU Utah History.

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Speaker 5: Why because both of them are ranked and both of

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them could end up in Arlington.

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Speaker 4: They could have ended up in Arlington.

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Speaker 5: This was dubbed as a playing game to the Big

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twelve championship game versus Texas Tech. We don't know what's

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gonna happen now, because Texas Tech fell to Asu BYU

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knocks off Utah.

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Speaker 4: Cincinnati and Houston looked pretty good.

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Speaker 5: They could sneak in there and by us Ioway stayed

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in the Texas Tech. After that, anything can happen in

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college football cannibalism, and we're gonna break it all down

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opening statement from Kalani Shaitake postgame.

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Speaker 10: Great game and glad we got the victory obviously, but

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really excited about I mean, you know, just the overall

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I mean all three phases. The guys played their butts off,

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and the fans were amazing tonight in the stadium. You

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guys could feel it the energy and glad that we

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were going to make the plays. We knew that it'll

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take all three phases to do this, and we knew

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that it would be a fight to the end and

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have to give a lot of credit to Utah for

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the performance. Obviously, we just made a couple more plays

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than they did. But I think I think there's a

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good moment for our team, you know, and it's good

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to see those guys and good to get the victory,

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but more importantly, just really proud of the guys working

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hard and having it come, you know, come all together.

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And so we still got a lot of work to do,

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but I just wanted to take this time to just

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express my love for Kyle Winningham. And I think it's

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interesting when you know, I'm just glad that I know

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he would get his guys ready, and I think that

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a lot of times people misunderstand him because of the

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competitive nes that that we have, and if we're all

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getting judged on our competitive ness that I think sometimes

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that makes it hard for people to understand. And I'm

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just gonna tell you that he's a mentor of mine,

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and so I wouldn't be here for one for him,

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And there's a lot of us on this coaching staff.

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I wouldn't be here went for him, and he's one

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of the best coaches I've ever known, and so appreciate him.

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I told him that pre game before and it regrought

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us to the result. I hope he knows how much

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I appreciate him, and I hope our people, our fans

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can understand that he's extremely competitive, but he's a great

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man and he took a chance on me, made me

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a coordinator, mentored me, and we had many opportunities where

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other people try to come and take him from Salt

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Lake City, and he gave me some amazing advice as

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we talked through it. And I hope I know the

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Utah fans appreciate him and what he's done there, but

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I'm just I just want to make sure that everybody

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knows that and just give him his flowers for what

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he's done. Hope everybody can just appreciate him for the

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man that he is, the coach and everything that he's

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been as a mentor to be. So yeah, that being said,

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I mean, yeah, this is a great We got to win,

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and uh, you know, we got a little bit of

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a streak here going and so I'm not trying to

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tell fans what to do because we told them not

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to storm the field.

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Speaker 3: They did it anyways.

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Speaker 10: But I just hope that our fans would understand that,

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you know, we're on a on a win streak right now.

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We know what it felt like to be on the

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other side. Of that before and so uh, you know,

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to show respect. I mean, you guys do anyways the

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majority of our fans do, but show respect to it

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to our opponents, and and you know, I just feel

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like it's really important for me to say that at

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this time that if we're going to break the cycle,

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and in this situation where you're kind of it's like

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the pride cycle that we learned from the scriptures, if

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anyone can break the cycle of being kind and and

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and uh not stepping on your opponents when they're down

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and try to find ways to uplift them and just

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appreciate the Uh. I mean, we're in the Big Twelve together.

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It's amazing. I never thought this would ever be possible

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that we're in the Big Twelve together and we get

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to play this game and be partners with this wonderful conference.

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And but with that being said, I'm really excited about

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the the uh, the environment. I think it was one

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of the top crowds that we've ever had, right, Yeah,

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and that's awesome and and just uh but it was

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it was a great game, and uh, I'm just glad that.

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Speaker 3: We were did that victory.

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Speaker 10: But you know, we've got to figure things, some things

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out for next week because last year we won this

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game and we didn't win the next one.

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Speaker 3: And the same thing happened to Utah.

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Speaker 10: So as emotional and as excited we we are to

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win this game, I got nine am church tomorrow, so

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I got to be there and uh so we got

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to you know, put this one away and then the

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move on and find ways to stay humble, stay hungry,

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and get ready for the next week, because this does

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take a lot out of you. But we've got to

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find a way to perform at our best next week.

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Speaker 3: We can. We'll work on that.

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Speaker 10: But great game, great victory, and I'm happy for the

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fans and happy for everyone involved.

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Speaker 5: All Right, I'm gonna break down this for you because

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many of you guys may think, Hey, Kalani's being too effusive.

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Speaker 4: He's going over the top. He doesn't need to do

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it this much.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, take a minute or two, give some love, but

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don't go off and then get scriptural like remember when

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Broncomnnen Hall likened BYU Football like to the Armies of Helmon.

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Speaker 4: Many of the media member had a heyday with it.

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Speaker 5: They they they thought he was a mission president holier

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than thou and look, when when you set yourself up

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as a standard, or you set up a standard, if

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you don't live up to it, they're either gonna mock

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it because you don't live up to it, or they're

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gonna mock it because you have a standard.

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Speaker 4: That's just how it is.

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Speaker 5: So like like him, pontificating honors may feel feel a

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little bit too much, but that is Kilanie. I've been

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around Kiloni forever. It's been who he is for a

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long time. It's never really not been his brand to

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give praise. As I mentioned before, in two thousand and seven,

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he ran across the football field. I did a round

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off back flip in front of the entire Utah football

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team after we beat them at Lavelle, and he ran

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up to me and give me a big hutt and said,

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I love you. I'm so proud of you. So they

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that's him, So that's always been him. Realize, Kyle doesn't

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like BYU anymore. He doesn't like and he never did

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like the holier than dw Go, even going back to

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the Whittingham era with his father and his brothers there

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and things that nature.

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Speaker 4: I don't think they've.

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Speaker 5: Ever been that type of BYU LDS play. They haven't

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been that way, They've never been. They don't like the

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holier than now. They made fun of the honor code

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and how they operate the honor code. They would use

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as a negative recruiting pitch, like, hey, you want to

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go there. If you mess up, you fall short, they're

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gonna sacrifice you. They're gonna put you in stockades, they're

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gonna kick you out. They're gonna oh because you fall short.

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You don't want to do that.

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Speaker 4: Come up to the U. We love you.

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Speaker 5: You have an institute here, Morgan an LDS, all these

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LDS coaches here.

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Speaker 4: But we're not gonna stockaga.

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Speaker 5: And you know there's an element of that's I would

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probably do the same thing because we probably shouldn't have

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been doing it that way. But when you when you

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elevate yourself on a platform and you create a standard,

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if you don't live up to it, they're gonna mock

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you because of it. Remember, Kalani is also interacting with

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the BYU leadership. Now there's new leadership there. Shane Reese's

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was seen uh uh crowdsurfing. He was crowdserving. Your university

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president was crowded. Could you imagine you know we're then

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doing that. You could you imagine.

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Speaker 4: See Solo Samulson doing that?

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Speaker 5: I mean even Gallan Hokes who was Cosmo at one time,

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are profits here in reve later? You know, could you

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imagine him crowdsurfing or Jeffrey R. Hall and crowdsurfing at

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Levell No that probably it's an impossibility. It wouldn't have happened.

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Shane Reese is an individual that celebrates all four facets

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of the student life experience, right the spiritual, wow, the academic,

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the athletic, and the social.

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Speaker 4: He wants to be elite, celestial at all of those things.

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Speaker 5: And in doing such. What's the message from the Ward

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of trustees? Rasban was there, Ben Gnarr was there. We

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need to do better in the rival. We gotta be

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better people. We got to be peacemakers while also showcasing

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our best selves on the football field and competing. So

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realize that Kilani, this is his brand, but also it's

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a part of the new BYU brand, and we got

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to be better. We can't be the most hated school

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on the earth like in the nineties. Right in the

472
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eighties and nineties, per Sports illustrated and be self righteous pricks.

473
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,599
We just can't be that anymore. You got to be better.

474
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And granted, am I stomping on the youth right now,

475
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:50,559
no doubt about it. I'm having a good time with it.

476
00:25:51,839 --> 00:25:54,319
When you go three in a row after losing nine straight,

477
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it feels good.

478
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Speaker 4: We're all a little bit petty, we're all a little

479
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bit competitive.

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Speaker 5: But brand is Klonie's brand and the bour brand is

481
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the bo your brand. So uh, we have a standard

482
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and we all got to try to live up to it.

483
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Otherwise they will mock us either way. You're gonna be

484
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mocked either way.

485
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Speaker 1: All all add to that is is I just want

486
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to reemphasize my point. You coach to your strengths, and

487
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:20,039
Colonne's strengths are very congruent with B where he's mission

488
00:26:20,079 --> 00:26:22,000
what B way he needs to be, and that's why

489
00:26:22,039 --> 00:26:26,160
he's been able to realize the success he has. I'm

490
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,559
happy for the guy, I really am, because he's genuine

491
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,680
and and he's extraordinary in that regard. A lot of

492
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:34,680
coaches don't approach it like Colonnie. Doesn't it then and

493
00:26:34,759 --> 00:26:37,920
seeing it work, that's just a great thing.

494
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Speaker 4: Let me give you another anecdote.

495
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Speaker 5: Jay Hill joined me for the pregame extravaganza at Cedar

496
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Hills Golf Course.

497
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Speaker 4: And they're at Cedar Hills Golf Course.

498
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Speaker 5: I asked him a question about like Kugrenation, Hey, what

499
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:54,559
message you have for Kugernation?

500
00:26:55,319 --> 00:26:56,839
Speaker 4: And he went off. You know what he said, this

501
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is either Pettici side of things.

502
00:26:58,279 --> 00:26:58,359
Speaker 3: Oh.

503
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Speaker 5: I remember he says, well, when guys come to b

504
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:04,319
why you follow them when they commit, like, follow them

505
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:08,079
on social and buoy them up when they leave BYU,

506
00:27:08,559 --> 00:27:12,920
unfollow them, stop tweeting, retweeting, sharing, liking, you know all

507
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:13,519
that stuff.

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Speaker 4: That's Jay Hill. Remember Jay j comes he's a ute.

509
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,039
Speaker 5: Like, he's a you know you by trading and then

510
00:27:19,039 --> 00:27:22,240
he also came from the coaching staff of Kyle and

511
00:27:22,279 --> 00:27:24,240
so he's got a little bit of that. What's the

512
00:27:24,279 --> 00:27:26,839
antithesis of that, Well, Kilane's approach.

513
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Speaker 4: Once a cougar, always a cougar. Love them up.

514
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:32,200
Speaker 5: Hey, if they don't want to be at BYU or

515
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:35,000
they decommit from BYU or whatever they transferred, BAA, Hey,

516
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:38,240
still love you. You're always welcome here. Once again, the standard,

517
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,000
what is our standard? What are we doing? How are

518
00:27:40,039 --> 00:27:42,559
we doing it? It's something that I've also talked about

519
00:27:42,559 --> 00:27:46,799
even though I'm more petty than Kilani, I've always I'm

520
00:27:46,799 --> 00:27:49,079
the one that started that phrase on social media.

521
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 4: Once a cougar, always.

522
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:53,279
Speaker 5: A cougar, and so because it doesn't do any good,

523
00:27:53,839 --> 00:27:56,920
even though the petty component of me says, well, when

524
00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,279
John Henry Dailey and Logan Fauna want to come back

525
00:27:59,319 --> 00:28:02,359
to pro voting get jobs after their NFL careers are

526
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:05,799
all done, and the network up at the hill up

527
00:28:05,799 --> 00:28:09,079
in Salt Lake City they're not very good to help

528
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:13,759
you network and find jobs and create generational wealth, then

529
00:28:13,799 --> 00:28:15,200
shut them, don't let them do it. But like you

530
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,920
can't do that, you gotta say no, welcome back, because

531
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:23,680
that's what Kolanie would want, that's what Byu wants probably,

532
00:28:23,839 --> 00:28:25,240
and the fan base probably has.

533
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:25,920
Speaker 4: To get in line with it.

534
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,079
Speaker 5: It's hard to do though, it's very hard to do

535
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:30,759
so anyway, that those are my thoughts. As I was

536
00:28:30,839 --> 00:28:33,720
listening to that, all those things were going through my mind.

537
00:28:33,839 --> 00:28:35,240
And then how do we want to operate at b

538
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,559
YU How do you want to operate as a bou fan?

539
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 4: Right? You want to be competitive, you want to win,

540
00:28:39,759 --> 00:28:40,480
you want to bring in all.

541
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 5: But if you know Pooka may not come back or

542
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:47,640
Samson may not come back unless you have Kolani there,

543
00:28:48,359 --> 00:28:52,000
unless you have that mindset and that love and that

544
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:55,319
synergy and that christ Like discipleship and devotion.

545
00:28:55,599 --> 00:28:56,359
Speaker 4: Does that make sense?

546
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:56,519
Speaker 3: Oh?

547
00:28:56,599 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, you need to keep those doors open and he's

548
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:02,000
very very good at that.

549
00:29:02,119 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 5: You have to in the nil transferportal area. Right anyway,

550
00:29:07,279 --> 00:29:08,440
how would you evaluate?

551
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:09,960
Speaker 4: Real quick? Last thing?

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Speaker 5: Actually, let's go to break. We'll come back with more

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six foot two now he's listening. As at two thirty five.

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We all knew that two twenty was inaccurate. He's a

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two hundred thirty five pounder, the rumbling, stumbling, right handed

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throwing tim tebow Baby. Nobody could stop Bear Bachmeier. Oh man,

584
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:46,559
it was Gloys the bear tar the centaur. He was

585
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leaping over utes left and right. He was dominating on

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the grid iron under the lights of level. He completed

587
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thirteen passing attempts right thirteen completions twenty two attempts one

588
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hundred and sixty six yards. Not too bad, almost a

589
00:31:04,519 --> 00:31:07,640
sixty percent completion rate. He had one touchdown, zero I iNTS.

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He ran the ball eleven times sixty four yards five

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00:31:11,519 --> 00:31:14,240
point eight yards per carry, one touchdown along of twenty

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two and that was a glorious twenty two yard boot

593
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scoot and boogie into that north end zone. What would

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you what did you make of bear Bachmeer's performance in

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this rivalry game in the Holy War first time go around.

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Speaker 1: I want to I've used every superlative known to man

597
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:34,119
to describe what I'm seeing from bear Bachmeier, but the

598
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:39,839
one that is greatness. What he did that run is greatness.

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00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:44,440
And to achieve that level, given what he is and

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how much time he's out of Bwau is It's the

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most extraordinary thing I've seen at Bayu maybe ever. I've

602
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:55,680
never seen someone come in to take on the responsibility

603
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,960
he has and to perform the way he has in

604
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:04,240
critical situation. It's greatness. It's extraordinary for a true freshman,

605
00:32:04,359 --> 00:32:06,279
and I want to have this. I mentioned this earlier

606
00:32:06,279 --> 00:32:10,000
today to you. I've been frustrated with Bear Bockmeier's interview

607
00:32:10,079 --> 00:32:14,400
since he arrived. Yeah, he's short, he's not very descriptive,

608
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and I misdiagnosed it. I thought this is just a

609
00:32:18,599 --> 00:32:20,920
guy trying to be really, really careful not to say

610
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,279
the wrong thing. And I think I'm completely wrong in

611
00:32:23,319 --> 00:32:26,039
that regard. And this hit me after the game because

612
00:32:26,079 --> 00:32:30,279
what he is doing is extraordinary. His process is extraordinary.

613
00:32:30,319 --> 00:32:35,440
We know he's extremely intelligent. What he gives and quotes

614
00:32:35,599 --> 00:32:39,680
is a mirror into his thought process, as quotes often are,

615
00:32:40,359 --> 00:32:43,920
and what he is is someone who doesn't complicate things.

616
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:47,000
He doesn't get outside of the box and just think

617
00:32:47,079 --> 00:32:50,559
thoughts that he doesn't have to. Concepts come very easy

618
00:32:50,599 --> 00:32:53,839
to him. He's intelligent, so he doesn't really know how

619
00:32:54,359 --> 00:32:56,440
to describe it because he doesn't think it's worth it,

620
00:32:56,519 --> 00:33:00,880
because he just does what he does. It's not something

621
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:02,279
Oh I had to do this, and I was thinking

622
00:33:02,359 --> 00:33:05,240
this and all this thought and that, No, it's just no,

623
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,319
this is what needs to be done, and I do

624
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:11,799
it and that's it, and that's his quotes. His directness

625
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:15,319
is a mirror into why he is so successful. It

626
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,960
really is, and I don't think it's going to change

627
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:21,759
because I don't think he he his process, how he's

628
00:33:22,039 --> 00:33:27,839
been brought up is extraordinary, and his mindset's extraordinary, and

629
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,519
what we're seeing is extraordinary, and it's it's awesome.

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00:33:30,559 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 6: So I'm never again.

631
00:33:32,039 --> 00:33:35,319
Speaker 1: Going to criticize Bear for not being more eloquent during

632
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:39,400
quote sessions, because that's who he is, that's why he's successful.

633
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:41,119
Speaker 4: I like it anyway.

634
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 5: I just wanted to say that I think there's some

635
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,839
validity and truth to that. I think if you get

636
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into the culture of what that upbringing was like in

637
00:33:52,559 --> 00:33:53,960
the Bachmeier home.

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Speaker 4: What will you see.

639
00:33:55,559 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 5: You're going to see an individual that came from a disciplined,

640
00:34:02,319 --> 00:34:04,000
disciplinarian like family.

641
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Speaker 4: Right and.

642
00:34:08,039 --> 00:34:11,119
Speaker 5: Bear, Tiger Hank, they all are very similar. Hank probably

643
00:34:11,159 --> 00:34:15,639
a little bit more loose because he played five years

644
00:34:15,639 --> 00:34:20,880
of college football. So let's ask Kalanie, Klanie, how would

645
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:25,639
you evaluate how Bear handles the pressure and that environment.

646
00:34:26,559 --> 00:34:29,320
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean I thought he did a great job,

647
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:31,719
you know, And I mean this is not an easy

648
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:35,199
game to prep for it, even all week, and you know,

649
00:34:35,679 --> 00:34:37,719
we did it on homecoming weeks, so we.

650
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Speaker 3: Made a big deal about it.

651
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Speaker 10: And and I just saw this young freshman come to

652
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:46,079
work every day and watch film, study practice and make

653
00:34:46,119 --> 00:34:49,440
mistakes in practice and correct them and get himself ready.

654
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Speaker 3: I mean, I wish I could take credit for that.

655
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That's not me. I'll tell you that that's he's made

656
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that way.

657
00:34:55,159 --> 00:34:58,360
Speaker 10: But also, uh, I think here we should give credit

658
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to a Rod and the way that he's mentored him

659
00:35:00,159 --> 00:35:02,360
and brought him along. You know, everything that we did

660
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,119
from the beginning when we knew that we would start

661
00:35:04,159 --> 00:35:07,119
a true freshman at quarterback was delivered from week one

662
00:35:07,199 --> 00:35:10,119
to where we're at right now. So you know, we

663
00:35:10,159 --> 00:35:12,480
still have some work to do before we get to

664
00:35:12,519 --> 00:35:14,639
the next one, and and we'll try to get that done.

665
00:35:14,679 --> 00:35:18,719
But he's been an amazing person to work with. And

666
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:20,840
you know, we're getting all excited. I'm trying to get going,

667
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,280
and he's like, colch, you keep going because I got

668
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:23,880
more more plays.

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Speaker 3: They're gonna need us again. And he's the one keeping

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me in check, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 10: But yeah, love love his his the physical way he plays,

672
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and he's a tough kid.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that was a hard hit that he took.

674
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Was that landard that hit him? Yeah?

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Speaker 10: It was a tough hit, and uh, I mean he's

676
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a tough kid, and he'll be a little sore tomorrow,

677
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but but it'll heal quickly with the win.

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Speaker 4: He's a magical human.

679
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:52,679
Speaker 5: He's a unique centaur's He's an animal that has never existed,

680
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:58,280
only in our fairy tales, only in our books, only

681
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:02,679
in a Harry Bot Harry Potter series. Only at The

682
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Lion Witch and the Wardrobe by C. S.

683
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Speaker 4: Lewis.

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Speaker 5: These are magical tales. These are fairy tales. That's what

685
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:12,360
we're experiencing right now. So enjoy the Bear tar.

686
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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what drove me crazy watching all the

687
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pregame prognostications from the experts and all that Morgan Scout's

688
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,800
gonna have something for this Bear Bachmeyer. I don't know

689
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:24,440
if he's gonna be up to this moment. It's like,

690
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:27,920
have you seen this kid play at all this year?

691
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:32,880
There was one thing I was so certain of prognosticating

692
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:36,800
this game all week is that Bear the moment was

693
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,760
not going to get to him. He was going to

694
00:36:40,039 --> 00:36:43,880
be fine, because I've seen it. I understand what This

695
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:47,639
kid is a lot better than Joel Klatt. I don't

696
00:36:47,639 --> 00:36:50,400
know what Dave Portnoy, I seriously want to throw things

697
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,639
at the television. I'm like, do you understand how ignorant

698
00:36:53,679 --> 00:36:56,559
you are right now saying this about Bear Bachmeyer? Sure,

699
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,599
I understand what this kid. I'm beginning to understand what

700
00:36:59,679 --> 00:37:02,719
he is. It really hit me full force. I was

701
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:05,199
able to speak with his father a little bit, got

702
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:08,960
some insight, and just it's the demeanor, It's how he

703
00:37:09,079 --> 00:37:12,159
processes things. The moment's never too big for this kid

704
00:37:12,199 --> 00:37:14,880
because he doesn't see it as Wow, this is the

705
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,039
end all be all, This is a process, this is

706
00:37:17,039 --> 00:37:19,079
something I have to do to move on to the

707
00:37:19,079 --> 00:37:23,719
next thing. And whatever it is, my goodness, give it

708
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:27,079
to anybody. I try to apply that to anybody. I

709
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:29,960
don't think you can, because I don't think everyone has

710
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:33,280
the tools the Bear has and the intelligence to operate

711
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:36,440
like he does. But man, it is phenomenal, and I

712
00:37:36,519 --> 00:37:40,679
think most Bway fans understand just how special what we're

713
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:43,920
seeing from this young man is because I've never see.

714
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:44,320
Speaker 4: Anything like it.

715
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:49,159
Speaker 8: Brett Hammer, It's just so annoying when people on the

716
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:52,440
national level they almost seem like they just don't do

717
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:56,400
any research at all. They read on the game notes. Oh,

718
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:59,400
bear Bachmeer is a true freshman. Automatically, that means he's

719
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:01,719
not going to play well, and that means that the

720
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:04,719
opposing defensive coordinator is gonna have his number. Don't you

721
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:07,000
think if that were the case, he would have struggled

722
00:38:07,039 --> 00:38:09,559
so far this season and he hasn't been perfect in

723
00:38:09,599 --> 00:38:11,760
every game. But I don't think there's any game this

724
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:14,519
season where you would say bear bachmer played poorly and

725
00:38:14,559 --> 00:38:15,599
looked like a true freshman.

726
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:17,679
Speaker 6: So it's just annoy I'm with you, g man.

727
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:19,519
Speaker 8: Like when you're at the national level, I get you

728
00:38:19,519 --> 00:38:20,400
have a lot of things to do.

729
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:21,800
Speaker 6: I get you have a lot of things to pay

730
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:22,239
attention to.

731
00:38:22,679 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 8: Just do a little bit of research as opposed to

732
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,719
just reading the game notes. I know he's a true freshman,

733
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,719
but you assuming that he's gonna be bad because.

734
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,119
Speaker 6: Of that because you did no other research.

735
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:37,519
Speaker 8: Guess what on Saturday, Dave Portnoy, everybody who didn't pick Byu.

736
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:40,559
It showed what's funny is on Big New Kickoff, everyone

737
00:38:40,599 --> 00:38:43,079
except for Matt Liner picked Utah. But when you go

738
00:38:43,119 --> 00:38:45,159
over and look at College game Day, everyone except for

739
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:47,480
Nick Saban actually picked BUYU.

740
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:49,679
Speaker 6: So uh yeah, just do your research.

741
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:53,119
Speaker 5: People, well, I think Saban. Remember like Shabe's gonna have

742
00:38:53,159 --> 00:38:56,199
his own biases. There's we all have our own biases.

743
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:58,079
Like you have to be able to account for biases.

744
00:38:58,159 --> 00:39:01,960
Joel Klatt, he's a Pac twelve uh acolyte, Like that's

745
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:02,800
where he comes from.

746
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:04,119
Speaker 4: That's who he was, That's what.

747
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:07,880
Speaker 5: Was paying him his wage in the media to start

748
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,920
off his media career, and therefore, prior to the Alamo

749
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:16,360
Ball he was like everything was Colorado and game day

750
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,159
was there too. It's hard to pick against Dion until

751
00:39:19,199 --> 00:39:22,760
Dion gives you the okay to root against him because

752
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:24,880
he loves Kilani, and that now all of a sudden

753
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:29,599
it would be maybe okay to pick against Colorado when

754
00:39:29,639 --> 00:39:32,000
Kilani's playing him because Dion loves Kilani.

755
00:39:32,039 --> 00:39:34,280
Speaker 4: Do you see how that plays a role in this

756
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,119
in the PR game at any rate? It is what

757
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:37,559
it is.

758
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:40,920
Speaker 5: We know these teams better than they do on the

759
00:39:41,039 --> 00:39:46,000
national scale, and so when BYU goes eighteen and two

760
00:39:46,039 --> 00:39:49,079
in the last twenty maybe we're not as surprised as others.

761
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,960
This is what Kilani had to say, number three eighteen

762
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:53,719
and two record in their last twenty games.

763
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:55,280
Speaker 4: Did you see that coming? Killani?

764
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:58,559
Speaker 10: What happened on those two. That's so that's the ones

765
00:39:58,599 --> 00:40:02,360
they bother me the months. Yeah, yeah, No, I mean

766
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:05,119
it's it's uh. I'm just gonna try to do my

767
00:40:05,159 --> 00:40:07,280
best and these guys will do the work, you know

768
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,239
what I mean, and and try to have fun. I

769
00:40:09,519 --> 00:40:12,800
actually I'm having a great time coaching these young men

770
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,679
and being around these fans, and so yeah, I wish

771
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,239
I could say, yeah, I saw it coming, but I'm

772
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:20,480
just going taking it day to day and week by

773
00:40:20,519 --> 00:40:25,159
week and then honestly just super grateful and just appreciate

774
00:40:25,559 --> 00:40:29,199
the opportunity that I have. I I it's it's still

775
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:31,920
it's still dream to me because I grew up b

776
00:40:32,119 --> 00:40:35,320
YU fan cheering for guys like Kyle Whittingham and others

777
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:38,599
and Robbie Bosco and Steve Young and Ti Denmur and

778
00:40:38,599 --> 00:40:40,920
all those and then I got to play for Lavelle,

779
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:43,480
which was an amazing dream of mine. Then I get

780
00:40:43,519 --> 00:40:46,280
to be the head coach, and so I'm living a

781
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:48,400
great dream and I'm trying to appreciate as much.

782
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:51,639
Speaker 4: As possible, you know.

783
00:40:52,119 --> 00:40:54,079
Speaker 5: Klone once again goes out of his way to say, hey,

784
00:40:54,079 --> 00:40:57,119
I root on rooted for Kyle Whittingham.

785
00:40:57,480 --> 00:40:59,880
Speaker 4: You know eighteen or two though.

786
00:41:00,159 --> 00:41:05,159
Speaker 5: Last twenty games, the two losses coming after a Law

787
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:07,840
or a win to Utah. So now you hope that

788
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:10,599
the hangover is not a real thing and that they

789
00:41:10,639 --> 00:41:14,320
can stay humbles, stay hungry and not imbibe in their

790
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:20,400
win right the sweet honey sucker, the honey's nectar of

791
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:24,599
a rivalry, holy war win. You hope they can get

792
00:41:24,599 --> 00:41:26,719
back on the right track and not lose. Ioway State on.

793
00:41:26,639 --> 00:41:29,599
Speaker 1: The road in his press conference today, I asked that

794
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:32,679
question on how you have to avoid that, and Kalani

795
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:38,239
went a very very long time. He's way ahead of

796
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:42,239
everyone else on this. He does not want because what

797
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:46,960
bway you is now. The opportunity ahead is extraordinary. They

798
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:50,519
can do things that this program's never done before. Go

799
00:41:50,559 --> 00:41:53,360
to that go to a college football playoff is a

800
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:56,199
very very real possibility. There's not a team in the

801
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:58,880
Big Twelve Conference that be way you can't beat. They

802
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,159
can beat anybody in this car. They can beat Texas

803
00:42:01,199 --> 00:42:05,079
Tech absolutely. Cincinnati might be the toughest game on the

804
00:42:05,079 --> 00:42:10,159
schedule coming up. It's they can lose every game, but

805
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:11,239
they can absolutely.

806
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:13,159
Speaker 5: I still win at Tech is the toughest game, but

807
00:42:13,199 --> 00:42:14,719
Cincinnati's gonna be tough on the road too.

808
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 1: Why Texas Tech could be salty after that? Oh yeah,

809
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:21,480
oh my goodness. But but yeah, the opportunities b what

810
00:42:21,639 --> 00:42:24,119
you has and I think Colonia understands what he's on

811
00:42:24,159 --> 00:42:26,280
the cusp of and he wants to do everything he

812
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:28,719
can to realize that. It's gonna be fun to see

813
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:29,559
how it unfolds.

814
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,840
Speaker 5: Kalani, what did you see from your defense, especially on

815
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:34,320
those fourth downs that you liked?

816
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the game.

817
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:37,559
Speaker 10: I mean, I think we talked about it's going to

818
00:42:37,599 --> 00:42:39,559
come down to the trenches, and you have to give

819
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:40,800
you saw a lot of credit.

820
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 3: I mean, they made it really difficult for us.

821
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:44,280
Speaker 10: And I mean when you look at the stats, and

822
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:46,239
Jay's not going to be excited about all the stats,

823
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:48,760
but the stat that matters the most is to win

824
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:50,559
and probably turnover margin.

825
00:42:50,599 --> 00:42:52,360
Speaker 3: I think Tyle will tell you the same, you know.

826
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:55,639
Speaker 10: So, I think when when we put ourselves in that position,

827
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:59,079
good things can happen for you. But there's definitely a

828
00:42:59,119 --> 00:43:01,679
lot of things that we can fix. Just because we

829
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:03,599
won the game doesn't mean that we have work to do.

830
00:43:03,639 --> 00:43:06,079
We got work to do and we'll start that on Monday.

831
00:43:06,119 --> 00:43:08,719
But we've got a long ways, but I like the

832
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:12,920
progress that we've maken. And you know, I'm just glad

833
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:14,679
that we have a good hands team that can see

834
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:16,840
that the ball's spinning and didn't get the ten yards yet.

835
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:21,440
So smart kids and well coached all the coaches. I'm

836
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:23,039
proud of all of them, how they prep these guys

837
00:43:23,039 --> 00:43:24,599
and got them ready not just for this game, but

838
00:43:24,639 --> 00:43:25,559
for the entire season.

839
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,320
Speaker 4: Smart kids. Yeah, yeah that.

840
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:33,800
Speaker 5: As RG three stated on the TV feed, that kick

841
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:36,639
was cheeks.

842
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:40,559
Speaker 1: This is all of the worst outsized kicks I've ever said.

843
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:43,840
Speaker 5: And you begin like, look, we talked about this all

844
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:46,480
week long, okay and hammer time show g men, you

845
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:47,239
can attest to this.

846
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:48,280
Speaker 4: Even in the pregame.

847
00:43:49,159 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 5: Utah's special team unit at that time was forty fourth

848
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:52,320
in the country.

849
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:54,679
Speaker 4: B YU was six. I said, that's going to be

850
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:56,360
the difference. To me. I think that's going to be

851
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:57,199
the biggest difference.

852
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 5: Kyle Whittingham hates his kickers so much that they passed

853
00:44:02,079 --> 00:44:05,920
up on three different opportunities to kick field goals. Furthermore,

854
00:44:06,679 --> 00:44:08,639
when it came down to it, they still had a

855
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:12,400
chance to retain possession of the football with an on

856
00:44:12,559 --> 00:44:13,960
side kick, and the.

857
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 4: Kick was cheeks.

858
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:18,880
Speaker 5: No wonder, Kyle Whittingham dislikes his kicker so much.

859
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:20,039
Speaker 4: No wonder, he.

860
00:44:20,119 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 5: Passes up on those field goal attempts and goes for

861
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:26,559
it on fourth and medium, fourth and long, whatever, fourth

862
00:44:26,599 --> 00:44:29,280
and short, and he says it's all because of analytics.

863
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:31,320
I'm not going to go against the analytics, as he

864
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:35,280
stated in the postgame presser, but that man, And you

865
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:37,599
know what, I realized I was watching the post I

866
00:44:37,639 --> 00:44:40,639
was watching the game after, and I hate just say it,

867
00:44:40,679 --> 00:44:46,280
but I wonder, like there's a reason why Kyle does

868
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:50,880
not trust his kicker, right, Like, there's obviously reasons behind that.

869
00:44:51,599 --> 00:44:54,480
And I saw a nose ring in the kicker, and

870
00:44:54,519 --> 00:44:57,000
I'm like, I bet you he doesn't like that. I'm

871
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,119
not saying that's the only reason he doesn't like him. Obviously,

872
00:44:59,119 --> 00:45:02,000
if he doesn't make kicks, he doesn't like him. But

873
00:45:02,039 --> 00:45:03,559
I'm like, I wonder how he feels about the nose

874
00:45:03,639 --> 00:45:06,639
ringing with the kicker. He's an old school coach, you

875
00:45:06,639 --> 00:45:07,159
know what I mean?

876
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:08,800
Speaker 4: Like, I thought it was interesting.

877
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:11,360
Speaker 5: Anyway, we'll go to break, We'll get into more sound

878
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:14,639
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the one criticism keeped on Killani was what in the

911
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:45,960
postgame and during the game, g Man too much praise?

912
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:48,880
Well now, now, I mean in the game, what was

913
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:51,320
the one What was the one criticism we would put

914
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:51,880
on Killani?

915
00:46:52,079 --> 00:46:54,360
Speaker 1: Clock management at the end of the first half.

916
00:46:54,199 --> 00:46:56,119
Speaker 4: And clock manager or the decision and.

917
00:46:56,079 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 1: The decision to go for it on fourth down and

918
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:00,320
step kicking a field kick.

919
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:02,400
Speaker 4: The field goal make them score two touchdowns, et cetera.

920
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:03,840
So Kline was asked that question.

921
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:06,199
Speaker 5: What went into the decision to go for it instead

922
00:47:06,199 --> 00:47:07,480
of kicking the field goal late in the.

923
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:10,199
Speaker 3: Fourth I don't know. I just wanted to go for.

924
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:15,679
Speaker 10: It just because I'm a fan, and no I felt

925
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:17,360
like we were I wish it was a little closer,

926
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:19,239
but I felt like we could take I mean, take

927
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:20,800
a chance and just throw the bond. I felt good

928
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:23,719
about the defense, the way they're playing and almost backfired

929
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:25,679
on me. But I'm still learning too, so maybe I

930
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:28,760
made a mistake there. And but you know, I know

931
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:31,039
that they can they can get after field goals and

932
00:47:31,079 --> 00:47:33,039
things like that, and I just felt like we were

933
00:47:33,079 --> 00:47:34,480
in a good spot. I like that, I like our

934
00:47:34,599 --> 00:47:37,639
chances of converting, we even getting a touchdown there.

935
00:47:37,639 --> 00:47:40,280
Speaker 3: But it could be a mistake that I made.

936
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:43,039
Speaker 4: When it's okay your thoughts.

937
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:45,199
Speaker 1: On that, g Man, I love his demeanor and that

938
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:50,320
and the honesty and when you're that honest and saying, hey,

939
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:52,360
I'm just a fan, maybe I shouldn't have done it.

940
00:47:52,679 --> 00:47:55,800
That means you're really comfortable in your station, right, You're

941
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:57,679
not defense of it all. It's like, oh, what do

942
00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:02,039
you know, stupid reporter all that. It's like, yah, yeah,

943
00:48:02,119 --> 00:48:05,960
maybe you're right whatever, I am who I am. He's

944
00:48:06,159 --> 00:48:08,880
very very comfortable in his station with what he is

945
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:11,880
and how he goes about things, and people realize that

946
00:48:12,039 --> 00:48:12,679
about him.

947
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:15,199
Speaker 4: Let me give you the justification for it.

948
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:17,639
Speaker 5: Right, if you go side by side comparison, would you

949
00:48:17,639 --> 00:48:20,800
say that the I mean, the offense was pretty good.

950
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:25,559
Speaker 4: Right, they're moving the ball, they're moving the ball pretty well. Yeah, right,

951
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:26,920
so you're.

952
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:30,760
Speaker 5: Confident that maybe your team can pick up that fourth down.

953
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:32,840
Speaker 4: You're in a bit of a groove.

954
00:48:34,519 --> 00:48:36,519
Speaker 5: You have an opportunity to steal the game right then,

955
00:48:37,159 --> 00:48:39,719
Like right there, you pick it up and you score.

956
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:41,960
He went for a touchdown, by the way, I mean

957
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:43,559
he's going for a touchdo It's like we're gonna win

958
00:48:43,599 --> 00:48:47,800
it now. There's a certain mentality, certain killer mentality that

959
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:50,599
you love about that, or the probabilities or the odds

960
00:48:50,599 --> 00:48:54,440
in his favor to complete that ball. Probably not, but

961
00:48:54,639 --> 00:48:57,079
worst case scenario, they get it back and you have

962
00:48:57,199 --> 00:49:00,760
your strength on the field, which is your defense, and

963
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:02,199
you feel comfortable with that, and you.

964
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:03,440
Speaker 4: Still have to score twice.

965
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:07,239
Speaker 5: So like looking at all of that with the momentum

966
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:09,519
where it was, and he kind of felt like, hey,

967
00:49:09,559 --> 00:49:11,480
I'm a fan, Like you can see the emotion like

968
00:49:11,519 --> 00:49:14,239
I want to beat Kyle now so that they have

969
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:18,960
no hope. A little bit a little bit short sighted obviously,

970
00:49:19,079 --> 00:49:21,519
but I understand the killer mentality, and.

971
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:23,400
Speaker 1: I think a lot of it was because of what

972
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:25,760
they did at the end of the first tab. It's like, no,

973
00:49:26,039 --> 00:49:28,440
we're learning from that, We're going for the end zone.

974
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:30,639
What we're putting the hammer down and all that. And

975
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:36,559
also Chase and revealed that he practiced that back shoulder

976
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:38,719
fade with Bear all week.

977
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:40,119
Speaker 4: They had been practicing it a lot.

978
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:44,079
Speaker 1: Kyle uh Clonie knows that. A Rod obviously knows that.

979
00:49:44,159 --> 00:49:46,599
It's like, hey, these guys have got this that they're

980
00:49:46,679 --> 00:49:49,840
gonna do that, they can execute this. So you played

981
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:51,800
your strength in that regard. It didn't work out. I

982
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:55,360
mean probps to Utah's cornerback. He had fantastic coverage. Yeah,

983
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:59,119
ball could have been a little higher, but anyway, whatever, Yeah.

984
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:01,519
Speaker 5: Yeah, it is what it is. I'm just glad it

985
00:50:01,559 --> 00:50:04,239
didn't come back to hontby way. Yeah, it was a

986
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:06,760
little bit closer, a little bit more of a nail bider.

987
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:07,239
Speaker 4: Boy.

988
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:09,519
Speaker 1: Those flags were just flying on that last drive.

989
00:50:09,679 --> 00:50:09,880
Speaker 4: Yeah.

990
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:16,440
Speaker 5: Well, look, from an entertainment standpoint, once the failed conversion occurred,

991
00:50:18,159 --> 00:50:21,159
it made it a whole lot more intriguing.

992
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:24,320
Speaker 4: To let that drive continue.

993
00:50:24,559 --> 00:50:27,079
Speaker 5: And there were some flags that may be questionable, right,

994
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:28,239
should they have been called?

995
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:30,079
Speaker 4: Maybe maybe not.

996
00:50:31,119 --> 00:50:33,199
Speaker 5: You know a lot of these calls, these pass pass

997
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:36,920
interference calls, defensive holding calls. You can call holding on

998
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:40,320
every single play. Quite honestly, I thought it made it

999
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:43,079
more entertaining. And guess who was there at the game.

1000
00:50:43,679 --> 00:50:45,519
I have a bit of a theory on just games

1001
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:50,480
like anywhere that you can make money and create more

1002
00:50:51,519 --> 00:50:54,239
controversy and have more eyeballs on the Big twelve.

1003
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:56,280
Speaker 4: Brett Yormark's probably gonna invest in that.

1004
00:50:57,320 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 5: I'm not saying brett Ormark does this, but it wouldn't

1005
00:51:00,119 --> 00:51:03,519
surprise me if brett Ormark's like, hey, make sure Utah scores.

1006
00:51:03,639 --> 00:51:08,239
Let's let's within reason, let's make let's make Utah score

1007
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:10,440
on the stride to make it a little bit more interesting.

1008
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:14,559
Like I'm not saying he did, but like to me,

1009
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:18,360
like I look at a guy like that, a man

1010
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:23,960
that he reached out to the WWFWWE the World Wrestling

1011
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:29,760
Federation and combined forces with the wrestlers, the fake wrestlers

1012
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:34,440
that are juiced up. It's all entertainment. It's all fake. Yes,

1013
00:51:34,519 --> 00:51:37,360
what they do is real. They're jumping, they're they're slamming

1014
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:40,760
each other. Those are real things, but it's all it's

1015
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:46,920
all coordinated, just entertainment. That's all it is. And so

1016
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:50,039
he's an entertainer, that's all brett Or Mark is. He's

1017
00:51:50,079 --> 00:51:54,039
a conference commissioner for an entertainment industry, and he wants

1018
00:51:54,039 --> 00:51:57,119
it to be entertaining. So he wants it to come

1019
00:51:57,159 --> 00:51:59,920
down to the final play because he wants eyeballs all

1020
00:52:00,039 --> 00:52:03,639
on the television scrades, he wants Nielsen ratings. He wants

1021
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:06,639
a little bit of controversy. He wants body slams, he

1022
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:10,519
wants maybe beautiful women strutting around. Maybe he wants controvers

1023
00:52:11,199 --> 00:52:13,679
he does. Maybe maybe he wants to implement that too.

1024
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:14,199
Speaker 4: For all we know.

1025
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:18,880
Speaker 5: Anyway, he likes the controversy, he likes the competitive nature.

1026
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 4: He that's why he was there for the Holy Words.

1027
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:23,599
We could really taste of the glory. See what it

1028
00:52:23,639 --> 00:52:25,480
tastes like. Does that make sense you?

1029
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 5: I wasn't surprised at all that some of those hankies

1030
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:28,719
started coming out.

1031
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:32,039
Speaker 1: I love a good conspiracy theory, and I do like

1032
00:52:32,119 --> 00:52:34,320
that one. I don't know if I'm gonna send validity

1033
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:36,880
to it, but I know you've been pushing it. But

1034
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:37,559
but I like that you.

1035
00:52:37,519 --> 00:52:40,039
Speaker 4: Put how far? How far into it are you?

1036
00:52:40,119 --> 00:52:40,199
Speaker 2: Like?

1037
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:44,119
Speaker 5: What percentage of my con my, my, my, my theory.

1038
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:48,559
Speaker 4: Are you into it? Maybe percent hammer time?

1039
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 5: What what percentage are you in on my on my

1040
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:55,239
conspiracy theory with Brett Yormark wanting to maybe influence a

1041
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:57,119
little thing here and there to make it a little

1042
00:52:57,119 --> 00:52:58,920
bit more competitive, more entertaining, et cetera.

1043
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:01,159
Speaker 6: I really don't like to be that guy.

1044
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 8: Just to clarify, I hate being the guy that says

1045
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:05,840
the refs did this or the refs did that.

1046
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:07,400
Speaker 6: But here's my issue.

1047
00:53:07,639 --> 00:53:10,679
Speaker 8: You called the game one way the whole way, which

1048
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:13,039
was it's a rivalry game, so we're gonna let him play,

1049
00:53:13,119 --> 00:53:15,360
which I'm good with. They were plays where I thought, Bo,

1050
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:17,800
you should have gotten a past interference call, that Chase

1051
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:19,840
had one that he should have got that he didn't get,

1052
00:53:20,599 --> 00:53:23,840
and did it bug me? Yeah, But I also understood

1053
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:26,679
this is the way they called the game the whole time.

1054
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:29,840
So for you all of a sudden to switch things,

1055
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:33,239
bait and switch when Utah can come down and win

1056
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:35,360
the game, I said to my father and ly lead

1057
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:37,800
over till I goes. Brett Ormark doesn't want Bou to

1058
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:41,519
win this game. Brett Ormark does not want that. Brett

1059
00:53:41,639 --> 00:53:45,000
or Mark no brett or Mark does not want BOYU

1060
00:53:45,159 --> 00:53:46,679
to be a big brand in the Big twelve that

1061
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:47,719
I do believe.

1062
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:49,679
Speaker 4: We have talked about this before.

1063
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:52,400
Speaker 8: So I know it's it's it's in the same vein.

1064
00:53:52,519 --> 00:53:54,920
It's not the same as your conspiracy theory, but it's

1065
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:58,599
it's on the same lane. So I'm probably thirty five

1066
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:01,440
to forty percent on everything you just said.

1067
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:07,960
Speaker 5: Hey, I'm becoming more convinced of my conspiracy theory. A

1068
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:10,599
couple of last year, a couple more of these sound bites.

1069
00:54:10,599 --> 00:54:14,039
How pivotal was the muff punt recovery. That was a

1070
00:54:14,039 --> 00:54:16,039
big swing of momentum.

1071
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:18,639
Speaker 10: Yeah, and it wasn't a great kick by by Sammy

1072
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:21,599
and and so I think just the style that he

1073
00:54:21,679 --> 00:54:23,920
kicks is really difficult for people to catch, you know.

1074
00:54:24,039 --> 00:54:26,639
But I mean there's a mistake that they made and

1075
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:29,480
we were able to capitalize and get the ball. So

1076
00:54:29,519 --> 00:54:31,800
that was that was nice, But I felt like we

1077
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:33,400
still left a lot of plays out there that we

1078
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:34,000
could have made.

1079
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:36,199
Speaker 3: But a lot of that is the credit of I mean,

1080
00:54:36,519 --> 00:54:38,079
Dapper is a great athlete.

1081
00:54:38,119 --> 00:54:40,920
Speaker 10: He makes people miss and that was a physical line

1082
00:54:41,039 --> 00:54:43,320
you know that that blocked really well and they caught

1083
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:45,039
us on a fly suite for I mean, how many

1084
00:54:45,079 --> 00:54:48,199
hours was that? And that's that's embarrassing because we're better

1085
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:50,400
than that. But you have to give them credit. I mean,

1086
00:54:50,559 --> 00:54:52,880
I think they there's a great game plan on both sides,

1087
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:55,760
and you know, we just ended up getting the win

1088
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:57,920
by by three points and I'll take it.

1089
00:54:58,119 --> 00:55:03,000
Speaker 1: So just so you know, cridinals killed probably twenty nine flies.

1090
00:55:03,639 --> 00:55:09,440
Speaker 5: Look, hey, you know we had we had meat and

1091
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:13,800
all manner of food and our tailgater, you know, during

1092
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:19,000
the weekend, and apparently like they were like all manner

1093
00:55:19,119 --> 00:55:22,679
of like bugs have come up and just like been

1094
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:23,840
living in our tailgater.

1095
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:25,519
Speaker 4: And I'm like, wait a second, what happened. I get

1096
00:55:25,519 --> 00:55:28,360
in here and there's flies everywhere. Yeah, I've been murdering

1097
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:30,639
flies during the show. Don't even get it twisted. That's

1098
00:55:30,679 --> 00:55:31,360
how we were anyway.

1099
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 5: Sorry, sorry, we're a trailer in the back of Orthrow

1100
00:55:34,039 --> 00:55:37,840
pros Baby, so our ultimate tailgater back here our Banterwell studio,

1101
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:42,000
So we gotta we gotta murder these flies. Anyway, g man,

1102
00:55:42,039 --> 00:55:43,840
that was your question, and just want to go off

1103
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:44,440
on the flies.

1104
00:55:44,559 --> 00:55:46,840
Speaker 1: Well, I thought it was a really really big moment

1105
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:49,920
in that game. Utah was poised to go up fourteen

1106
00:55:50,039 --> 00:55:53,760
seven at the half, right they had momentum. You fans

1107
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:57,199
were cheering, and that took everything out of it. I

1108
00:55:57,199 --> 00:56:00,000
thought it was a huge, huge moment in that game.

1109
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:02,920
Props to Tellan Alfrey, who hasn't been afforded a lot

1110
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:05,480
of playing time at safety, to come up with that play.

1111
00:56:06,599 --> 00:56:10,320
They become legends. Tellan Alfrey, I want him to get

1112
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:13,119
that recognition because he deserved, because I thought it changed

1113
00:56:13,159 --> 00:56:15,519
the entire game. It was a big, big moment, you know.

1114
00:56:15,599 --> 00:56:16,599
I feel bad for Talan.

1115
00:56:16,639 --> 00:56:19,239
Speaker 5: Alfrey's playing really good football right now, not only on

1116
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:21,760
special teams, went when given the opportunity in Portland State

1117
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:25,719
and Stafford, he's been balling out. Unfortunately, he was behind

1118
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:29,639
Raider Dumondi and Folla Tau Satawala Falatou Southtawalla is looking

1119
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:33,400
like a first round NFL draft pick.

1120
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:36,199
Speaker 4: In the form and fashion which he's playing right now.

1121
00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:41,760
Speaker 5: I have never seen in my time covering BYU football

1122
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:45,800
someone transformed themselves from someone that I thought, hey, like,

1123
00:56:46,039 --> 00:56:49,039
he's gonna take a few years. He's talented, you know,

1124
00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:54,199
to NFL draft pick without a doubt. He led the

1125
00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:56,719
team in tackles. He had a TfL. I think he

1126
00:56:56,760 --> 00:56:59,800
had a PBu. He had a force fumble. Like you

1127
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:04,840
argued that that Folatou deserved Big twelve Defensive Player of

1128
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:07,400
the Week, not Tanner Wall, and.

1129
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:10,199
Speaker 4: Tanner wallballed out. Both of those safeties killed it.

1130
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:13,719
Speaker 5: Tal and Alfree is behind Folatout and he didn't even

1131
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:16,400
get to see the field as a strong safety. And

1132
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:20,159
that's with Raider being out this game shot out to Folatout.

1133
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:23,000
Speaker 4: I never thought he was a free safety.

1134
00:57:23,519 --> 00:57:25,320
Speaker 5: I love to move to strong safety, but there were

1135
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:28,480
still question marks for me on whether or not he

1136
00:57:28,519 --> 00:57:31,440
wanted to tackle anybody. I was like, he's big, he's strong,

1137
00:57:31,639 --> 00:57:33,519
he's fast, but I don't know if he wants to

1138
00:57:33,559 --> 00:57:41,199
hit anybody. Bro he has he has just just completely

1139
00:57:42,679 --> 00:57:47,400
just overachieved in my mind this season. He has He

1140
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:50,360
has me aghast, He has me completely just on my

1141
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:55,880
heels and make Folatou. You are balling out and showcasing

1142
00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:59,000
a whole new world of your abilities. Everyone's like, well,

1143
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:01,719
move him down to to that. Isaiah glasgar Row, I'm like,

1144
00:58:02,559 --> 00:58:03,599
I don't know if you need to.

1145
00:58:04,159 --> 00:58:04,840
Speaker 4: For next year.

1146
00:58:05,519 --> 00:58:07,960
Speaker 5: I think you keep him lean and you focus on

1147
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:11,519
his top end speed, and if he's at two twenty

1148
00:58:11,559 --> 00:58:15,599
at that strong safety spot two fifteen to twenty at ten

1149
00:58:15,639 --> 00:58:18,519
percent body fat, and he's running and moving like he

1150
00:58:18,599 --> 00:58:21,599
still is and even a little bit faster. I guarantee

1151
00:58:21,599 --> 00:58:24,039
you Skyler May and Kolbe Kloss and Rhyan Fields they

1152
00:58:24,079 --> 00:58:27,119
can keep him pretty lean this offseason and he can

1153
00:58:27,159 --> 00:58:29,840
be I think Tommy parashes at free moving back to

1154
00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:34,639
his true position, and Folatile it's strong. That's a dynamic

1155
00:58:34,719 --> 00:58:37,880
duo that is the best in the Big twelve in

1156
00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:38,320
my opinion.

1157
00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:40,920
Speaker 1: Turns out Jay Hill knows what he's doing. He knows

1158
00:58:41,159 --> 00:58:43,400
he had a plan for Folatile. I think playing free

1159
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:46,239
safetyagine and you obviously known more about this. I think

1160
00:58:46,239 --> 00:58:48,360
he did that as a as a learning process for him,

1161
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:51,400
so he understands angles, how plays develop in front of

1162
00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:54,000
him and all that, so that he could be protected

1163
00:58:54,039 --> 00:58:56,679
at free safety. Yeah, so that he could make the

1164
00:58:56,719 --> 00:58:59,519
advancement this year. Okay, you understand all that, the nuances,

1165
00:58:59,559 --> 00:59:01,880
what goes on here, Now go do it. I'm putting

1166
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:04,840
you up front, Bam. He understands what's going on on

1167
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:07,079
and back have him better so that he can execute

1168
00:59:07,159 --> 00:59:09,559
in front of him to the degree he has this year.

1169
00:59:09,679 --> 00:59:12,159
He's been a revelation. He's been so good.

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