WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.120 --> 00:00:04.639 You're listening to episode seventy six of GameSpot After Dark. 2 00:00:04.719 --> 00:00:07.719 On this week's show, Gav Murphy of RKG joins us 3 00:00:07.759 --> 00:00:10.039 to talk about the new Indiana Jones game and the 4 00:00:10.080 --> 00:00:24.879 new Star Wars game. Hello, and welcome to episode seventy 5 00:00:24.920 --> 00:00:27.640 six of GameSpot After Dark. This is the Fallout seventy 6 00:00:27.679 --> 00:00:29.920 six special where we are only going to talk now, 7 00:00:29.920 --> 00:00:31.719 I'm just kidding. We're definitely not going to do that 8 00:00:31.879 --> 00:00:35.240 because everyone knows that this is the official Yakuza podcast. 9 00:00:35.280 --> 00:00:37.560 That's probably what we're going to talk about. In fact, 10 00:00:37.799 --> 00:00:39.840 I have inside knowledge that we will be talking about that. 11 00:00:40.159 --> 00:00:42.719 But anyway, joining me today is Lucy James. 12 00:00:42.840 --> 00:00:44.479 Hello to more. 13 00:00:44.359 --> 00:00:48.240 Hussein Boy and Gaf Murphy from RKG. 14 00:00:48.600 --> 00:00:50.840 Hello, thank you so much for having me on the podcast. Man, 15 00:00:50.840 --> 00:00:51.840 I'm very excited about this. 16 00:00:52.119 --> 00:00:53.840 Hey, thank you for joining. 17 00:00:53.880 --> 00:00:57.079 I fully anticipate this to turn into like a yaka 18 00:00:57.119 --> 00:00:59.960 is a very British episode of GameSpot after. 19 00:01:00.119 --> 00:01:00.960 Arc, but I am. 20 00:01:00.960 --> 00:01:02.119 Here for it. Yeah. 21 00:01:02.320 --> 00:01:04.959 Well, that's the thing is like lots of people are like, oh, 22 00:01:05.640 --> 00:01:07.560 you know, like we listened to podcasts and we watch 23 00:01:07.599 --> 00:01:09.079 things to get ourselves through. It's like the thing I 24 00:01:09.120 --> 00:01:10.760 listened to this podcast because I get to hang out 25 00:01:10.799 --> 00:01:14.519 with two of my buddies, which is quite nice. It's like, 26 00:01:14.799 --> 00:01:16.640 this is two guys, but I listened to them on 27 00:01:16.680 --> 00:01:19.000 the podcast and be like, but then also I listened 28 00:01:19.000 --> 00:01:20.480 to it when they're not on it as well, so 29 00:01:20.599 --> 00:01:23.719 it's kind of strange as well. Yeah, I love this podcast, man. 30 00:01:24.400 --> 00:01:27.719 Oh, we're happy to have you on. It's it's taken 31 00:01:27.760 --> 00:01:28.879 too long, to be honest. 32 00:01:29.879 --> 00:01:32.120 Yeah, it's been like we've had it. You were on 33 00:01:32.159 --> 00:01:35.439 play for all of us last year as well. Yeah, 34 00:01:35.480 --> 00:01:37.879 but like it feels like four years ago now I 35 00:01:38.000 --> 00:01:42.400 know sus, I know man and like that that. Yeah, 36 00:01:42.439 --> 00:01:44.599 so we had your on video stuff and stream stuff, 37 00:01:44.599 --> 00:01:46.519 the all the elaborate stuff we've had. We've had you 38 00:01:46.560 --> 00:01:48.359 on our E three stuff. 39 00:01:48.040 --> 00:01:50.400 For a while yeah before that, but. 40 00:01:50.319 --> 00:01:52.640 We just haven't somehow done the podcast, which is like 41 00:01:52.680 --> 00:01:55.239 the easiest, the most basic thing. We skipped, like the 42 00:01:55.599 --> 00:01:58.000 we skipped the first stage to go to like stage 43 00:01:58.040 --> 00:01:59.040 ten to do everything. 44 00:01:59.159 --> 00:01:59.680 Yeah. 45 00:02:00.040 --> 00:02:01.359 When I first saw it, when I saw you guys 46 00:02:01.359 --> 00:02:07.159 were doing something called GameSpot after Dark. The British people 47 00:02:07.200 --> 00:02:09.439 will know this, but there was a there's a crap 48 00:02:09.520 --> 00:02:13.319 soap in the UK called Hollyoaks and at one point 49 00:02:13.479 --> 00:02:17.319 they did a Hollyoaks after Dark, which was basically just 50 00:02:17.719 --> 00:02:19.879 the same show, but it was later at night and 51 00:02:19.960 --> 00:02:24.039 everyone got their bits out. When I saw game Spot 52 00:02:24.080 --> 00:02:27.639 after Dark, I was like, yeah, about time man, and 53 00:02:27.680 --> 00:02:28.479 by bits. 54 00:02:28.240 --> 00:02:33.360 We mean that genital is not like the Twitch currency. 55 00:02:34.080 --> 00:02:34.520 Yeah. 56 00:02:35.120 --> 00:02:35.360 Yeah. 57 00:02:35.400 --> 00:02:37.639 The after Dark name just kind of came about because 58 00:02:37.639 --> 00:02:39.879 we literally couldn't think of anything else. I remember we 59 00:02:39.919 --> 00:02:43.080 had meetings with multiple people and we're all like, we're 60 00:02:43.120 --> 00:02:45.319 actually not gonna call it after dark. This is just 61 00:02:45.400 --> 00:02:47.840 what we're thinking now because it'll be like an after hour. 62 00:02:47.759 --> 00:02:48.319 Sort of show. 63 00:02:48.759 --> 00:02:50.520 And then it came down to it and it was like, 64 00:02:51.080 --> 00:02:52.759 we want to start this podcast and we don't have 65 00:02:52.800 --> 00:02:55.479 a name, and I think we just had that And 66 00:02:55.479 --> 00:02:57.919 apparently there was a game Spot after Dark at some 67 00:02:58.000 --> 00:02:59.680 point before that before this. 68 00:02:59.759 --> 00:03:02.479 But has been everything though, like we had on the spot, 69 00:03:02.680 --> 00:03:04.919 but now rooster Teeth have taken on the spot, so 70 00:03:04.960 --> 00:03:06.879 we can't take that back. 71 00:03:07.800 --> 00:03:10.159 I think I think games Podcast should go the other 72 00:03:10.199 --> 00:03:12.840 way and start naming themselves like video games, so it'll 73 00:03:12.879 --> 00:03:14.719 be like GameSpot Absolution. 74 00:03:18.800 --> 00:03:21.719 It should be GameSpot Revenge. 75 00:03:20.439 --> 00:03:24.719 And yeah, that is a great idea. Oh my god, 76 00:03:24.840 --> 00:03:26.680 I really want to do that. 77 00:03:26.919 --> 00:03:29.400 Wait, we can we change the subtitle every week? 78 00:03:29.719 --> 00:03:33.280 Yeah, that's the play SEO would love that. 79 00:03:33.680 --> 00:03:36.240 I was gonna say, I don't think iTunes would love 80 00:03:36.280 --> 00:03:38.280 the re submission every week. 81 00:03:39.159 --> 00:03:40.400 Oh yeah, I wouldn't want to do that. 82 00:03:41.039 --> 00:03:42.960 But anyway, normally we start with what we've been playing, 83 00:03:43.039 --> 00:03:45.080 but because we have a guest here, we are going 84 00:03:45.080 --> 00:03:49.479 to start with the Chris from Dayton, Ohio segment, Chris 85 00:03:50.039 --> 00:03:51.000 yav Who are you? 86 00:03:51.120 --> 00:03:51.719 What do you do? 87 00:03:52.360 --> 00:03:55.280 What's something that the folks at home listening should know 88 00:03:55.400 --> 00:03:55.879 about you? 89 00:03:56.319 --> 00:04:01.479 I don't know about should know hopefully will know by 90 00:04:01.479 --> 00:04:04.199 the end of this. I'm one third. The main thing 91 00:04:04.319 --> 00:04:07.159 is I'm one third of rkg, which is a very 92 00:04:07.159 --> 00:04:12.000 small YouTube channel one I run that I run with 93 00:04:12.120 --> 00:04:15.560 two of my buddies, Daniel and Rory. We used to 94 00:04:15.599 --> 00:04:20.519 work for IGN and we got known for playing Dark Souls, 95 00:04:21.160 --> 00:04:25.399 Bloodborne and all the from games, and we decided to 96 00:04:25.519 --> 00:04:28.199 leave and do it for ourselves about two years ago, 97 00:04:28.240 --> 00:04:30.680 well two years ago basically now this is our birthday 98 00:04:30.759 --> 00:04:34.199 right now. Yeah, So we started doing that. So you 99 00:04:34.199 --> 00:04:37.639 can find us on YouTube. We're on Patreon where we. 100 00:04:37.560 --> 00:04:38.959 Do a lot of extra stuff. 101 00:04:39.519 --> 00:04:41.720 We have one of the best communities in the world, 102 00:04:41.759 --> 00:04:44.480 I think, so that's pretty good. They've been amazing for 103 00:04:44.519 --> 00:04:46.759 the last couple of years because obviously, like usually for 104 00:04:46.800 --> 00:04:49.240 our birthday we do loads of big things like a 105 00:04:49.240 --> 00:04:51.360 big live stream and stuff like that, but we haven't 106 00:04:51.360 --> 00:04:55.639 been able to do anything so because like what's really 107 00:04:55.680 --> 00:04:57.879 strangers starting your own company and then going into a 108 00:04:57.920 --> 00:05:01.000 pandemic in the second year, and we were like, what 109 00:05:01.120 --> 00:05:01.639 do we do? 110 00:05:04.160 --> 00:05:06.600 I mean, your community, Tim and I have both been 111 00:05:06.639 --> 00:05:09.600 on arcade like various ARKG videos here and there, and 112 00:05:10.319 --> 00:05:12.480 every time or even even if I'm just in a 113 00:05:12.519 --> 00:05:15.920 tweet with you guys, like your community is so nice 114 00:05:16.079 --> 00:05:21.319 and respectful and like just full of bands. Yeah, you guys, 115 00:05:21.360 --> 00:05:23.199 you guys drive the band of us and they just 116 00:05:23.439 --> 00:05:26.759 like so happy, such happy passengers who like spread it 117 00:05:26.879 --> 00:05:29.079 up driving. 118 00:05:32.480 --> 00:05:35.120 When people say we want to we want to set 119 00:05:35.360 --> 00:05:39.720 an example and be like, you know, show the community 120 00:05:39.720 --> 00:05:44.360 how to you know, behave the best example of how 121 00:05:44.399 --> 00:05:46.560 to do it, and when it works, what happens is 122 00:05:46.680 --> 00:05:50.639 archag like because the community is a reflection of you 123 00:05:50.720 --> 00:05:52.680 guys to me, because because I know you guys, like 124 00:05:52.720 --> 00:05:54.879 we're close friends, we've been friends for eighties and when 125 00:05:54.879 --> 00:05:57.519 I'm in that community, it feels like this is just 126 00:05:57.560 --> 00:06:00.240 a bunch of GAVs and Rory's and croopers and like 127 00:06:00.279 --> 00:06:02.319 they were just like they have their own personality as well, 128 00:06:02.360 --> 00:06:03.879 and they have their own thing going on, but like 129 00:06:04.040 --> 00:06:06.879 the values are reflected, and it's like, I mean, if you, 130 00:06:07.079 --> 00:06:08.680 if you, if you're listening to this and you don't 131 00:06:08.680 --> 00:06:11.959 really know the community and you're a good person, don't 132 00:06:12.000 --> 00:06:16.120 be wrong, and highly recommend going over to RKG stuff 133 00:06:16.160 --> 00:06:17.959 and checking it out and letting them know where it 134 00:06:18.000 --> 00:06:19.680 came from. It it's such a nice place to be 135 00:06:20.240 --> 00:06:20.639 as well. 136 00:06:20.720 --> 00:06:23.319 One of my favorite things is Rory on TikTok and 137 00:06:23.360 --> 00:06:27.279 you can see the RKG community like has blown up 138 00:06:27.279 --> 00:06:29.240 on TikTok a few times, like he's got a really 139 00:06:29.240 --> 00:06:32.120 good series about he's making a Sea Monkey Army, And 140 00:06:32.160 --> 00:06:33.720 it's really funny if you go in the comments of that, 141 00:06:33.759 --> 00:06:37.639 because you'll always see the RKG, like the RKG community 142 00:06:37.639 --> 00:06:39.319 because they always post like Michael. 143 00:06:39.319 --> 00:06:42.279 Yeah, Michael, Michael, mich Michael. And like I was in 144 00:06:42.319 --> 00:06:44.000 a kind of funny stream the other day and people 145 00:06:44.040 --> 00:06:49.920 were talking about Rory's inability to do things in Soul's games, 146 00:06:49.959 --> 00:06:54.000 Like they were talking about Michael Zaki and there's there's 147 00:06:54.160 --> 00:06:56.839 r KG jokes everywhere now and it's bizarre because like 148 00:06:57.680 --> 00:06:59.040 it was wild because it was a kind of it 149 00:06:59.079 --> 00:07:02.439 was Greg playing Bloodborn for the first time and it 150 00:07:02.480 --> 00:07:04.720 was like and like Blessing was playing Securo and people 151 00:07:04.759 --> 00:07:07.680 are like, everyone knows Rory can't parry, and I was. 152 00:07:07.680 --> 00:07:11.720 Like, what, it's good man. 153 00:07:11.759 --> 00:07:14.279 It's it's like it's a really small community, but they 154 00:07:14.279 --> 00:07:17.879 are loud, but in a nice respect you You're right, 155 00:07:17.879 --> 00:07:19.879 it is a nice respectful way. It's strange because like 156 00:07:20.040 --> 00:07:21.560 we've been going for so long, but we have no 157 00:07:22.120 --> 00:07:24.759 mods or admins or anything like that. 158 00:07:24.759 --> 00:07:26.240 We never really needed it. 159 00:07:26.439 --> 00:07:28.680 I think half of it is out of respect, half 160 00:07:28.680 --> 00:07:29.560 of it is out of fear. 161 00:07:31.079 --> 00:07:32.920 But it's yeah, it's good man. 162 00:07:32.920 --> 00:07:36.360 It's the thing that you just you said this a 163 00:07:36.399 --> 00:07:38.480 couple of episodes of shield Up, which is your podcast 164 00:07:38.519 --> 00:07:41.360 to go, and it really really like cemented how I 165 00:07:41.399 --> 00:07:44.360 feel about the community. I think the r KG community 166 00:07:44.439 --> 00:07:46.839 is the only community on the Internet that I'd allow 167 00:07:46.920 --> 00:07:52.319 my mother to join and be because I know everyone's 168 00:07:52.399 --> 00:07:53.319 just going to be respectful. 169 00:07:54.040 --> 00:07:57.240 I shot myself recently because we have like a like 170 00:07:57.279 --> 00:07:58.000 a running well. 171 00:07:58.040 --> 00:08:02.319 I don't. Rory has a running joke with he compares 172 00:08:02.439 --> 00:08:03.480 various from. 173 00:08:03.360 --> 00:08:07.120 Monsters to my mom and like the Gaping Dragon. I 174 00:08:07.120 --> 00:08:08.920 think was the first time he was like, h we 175 00:08:09.319 --> 00:08:11.439 came across the Gaping Dragon's like, oh, I don't know 176 00:08:11.439 --> 00:08:12.000 your mum was in this. 177 00:08:13.199 --> 00:08:14.360 I mean, that's a classic joke. 178 00:08:14.439 --> 00:08:17.079 That's an amazing joke, and obviously every game he kind 179 00:08:17.079 --> 00:08:20.199 of does it. And then my mum and my sister 180 00:08:20.199 --> 00:08:23.040 were watching our Halloween stream and they jumped in and 181 00:08:23.160 --> 00:08:25.360 I my mom was in the comments, and I was like, 182 00:08:25.399 --> 00:08:26.639 oh my god, and I was. 183 00:08:26.600 --> 00:08:28.279 Just you know, that was like one of the biggest 184 00:08:28.279 --> 00:08:29.079 streams we ever had. 185 00:08:29.079 --> 00:08:31.959 There was like twelve hundred people watching there, and I 186 00:08:32.000 --> 00:08:33.759 was like, oh my god, Oh my god, one of 187 00:08:33.799 --> 00:08:34.799 them is going to call it a. 188 00:08:34.759 --> 00:08:38.000 Gaping dragon or something now. But everyone was like, hello, 189 00:08:38.080 --> 00:08:41.960 missus Murphy, how are you. It was so nice and respectful. 190 00:08:42.080 --> 00:08:44.039 And then she was like, okay, I'm I'm going to 191 00:08:44.080 --> 00:08:46.559 bed now, and then she left and then they were. 192 00:08:46.440 --> 00:08:50.600 Like, I don't know then at the beginning, they were 193 00:08:50.639 --> 00:08:51.320 so respectful. 194 00:08:51.360 --> 00:08:54.600 So yeah, they're amazing people, man, They're really really good. 195 00:08:54.960 --> 00:08:56.840 But I mean, honestly, one of the things I loved 196 00:08:56.960 --> 00:08:58.559 was when we did the play for All stream and 197 00:08:58.600 --> 00:09:02.840 seeing like the after Dark Discord community and the RKG 198 00:09:03.000 --> 00:09:06.639 community like slow like just kind of being like reaching 199 00:09:06.639 --> 00:09:08.480 out and being friends, which is really nice because like 200 00:09:08.759 --> 00:09:12.759 similarly to the like the games for discords, just full 201 00:09:12.799 --> 00:09:16.559 of such nice people, like like just having such pleasant 202 00:09:16.559 --> 00:09:18.480 conversations and being kind to each other and up lifting 203 00:09:18.480 --> 00:09:21.200 each other. Yeah, so basically basically it's like it's like 204 00:09:21.240 --> 00:09:22.919 when you have two friends that you want to get 205 00:09:22.919 --> 00:09:23.679 together and you're. 206 00:09:23.519 --> 00:09:27.000 Like against each other. 207 00:09:29.120 --> 00:09:33.039 I like it should probably answer the other questions in 208 00:09:33.080 --> 00:09:34.480 the Chris from Day and Ohio segment. 209 00:09:35.440 --> 00:09:39.039 Yeah, considering this is a video game podcast, like what 210 00:09:39.080 --> 00:09:41.759 are some of your favorite games or games you return 211 00:09:41.879 --> 00:09:44.039 to all the time every year? 212 00:09:44.320 --> 00:09:46.840 I was actually someone talked about this recently because I've 213 00:09:47.039 --> 00:09:49.720 been lucky enough to be part of a BBC podcast 214 00:09:49.720 --> 00:09:52.559 that's been going for the last couple of months, and 215 00:09:52.720 --> 00:09:56.600 as part of that, every person that comes on gets 216 00:09:56.600 --> 00:09:59.240 to do this section, which is whole of game where 217 00:09:59.240 --> 00:10:01.559 they pick one game that they would put in a 218 00:10:01.879 --> 00:10:03.480 kind of like Desert Island disc sort of thing with 219 00:10:03.600 --> 00:10:05.200 it's just one video game you had to play forever. 220 00:10:05.559 --> 00:10:07.200 And I thought about it for so long, and I 221 00:10:07.240 --> 00:10:10.200 was like, I think hot Land Miami, I think is 222 00:10:10.240 --> 00:10:13.240 my favorite video game because. 223 00:10:14.440 --> 00:10:17.279 I just the way, the way that I. 224 00:10:17.240 --> 00:10:19.360 Came to that game was like a really really nice 225 00:10:19.399 --> 00:10:23.039 way where there's this thing called EGX, which you guys 226 00:10:23.039 --> 00:10:24.679 will know about, maybe j you don't know, but it's 227 00:10:24.679 --> 00:10:27.480 like it's basically like a big it's now packs and 228 00:10:27.519 --> 00:10:29.399 shit like that, but it used to be a lot smaller, 229 00:10:29.559 --> 00:10:32.519 and it was in London and it was just years 230 00:10:32.519 --> 00:10:35.240 and years and years ago, and I used to basically 231 00:10:35.240 --> 00:10:37.720 go down, not really go to the show, but it 232 00:10:37.799 --> 00:10:40.879 was like a really nice community drinks afterwards in the pub. 233 00:10:41.080 --> 00:10:43.120 And I went down and it was like one guy 234 00:10:43.200 --> 00:10:45.000 was just like, have you played Hotland Miami? 235 00:10:45.440 --> 00:10:47.320 And it was the first preview that anything had been 236 00:10:47.360 --> 00:10:49.360 shown ever and I was like, no, I don't know 237 00:10:49.360 --> 00:10:51.279 what that is. And they were like, just go over 238 00:10:51.279 --> 00:10:53.279 there right now and player, go over to EGX right 239 00:10:53.279 --> 00:10:54.720 now and play. I was like, no, we're at the 240 00:10:54.759 --> 00:10:56.080 pub and stuff. He was like, doesn't matter, just go 241 00:10:56.159 --> 00:10:57.919 over and play it. And I was like really and 242 00:10:57.960 --> 00:11:00.559 he was like yeah, okay. So I went over and 243 00:11:00.639 --> 00:11:03.120 then played it, and I just I don't know. I 244 00:11:03.159 --> 00:11:05.360 don't remember ever feeling like that about any other video 245 00:11:05.480 --> 00:11:08.159 game before, just feeling like it's like a perfect mix 246 00:11:08.200 --> 00:11:13.200 of like tone, atmosphere, music, scripting, story in like this 247 00:11:13.320 --> 00:11:16.120 tiny little preview, and then came back and it was 248 00:11:16.159 --> 00:11:18.720 like this weird thing is like you could see the 249 00:11:18.720 --> 00:11:21.759 look on everyone's eyes, like you could pick out genuinely 250 00:11:21.960 --> 00:11:25.000 who'd played Hotland Miami out in this publy, like did 251 00:11:25.039 --> 00:11:25.399 you put. 252 00:11:25.240 --> 00:11:26.440 Out my miamiy? Yeah I did, And then you'd be 253 00:11:26.480 --> 00:11:27.919 like what is it? What's it gonna be? And stuff 254 00:11:27.919 --> 00:11:28.200 like that. 255 00:11:28.399 --> 00:11:31.159 But I think like Hotland Miami is probably my favorite 256 00:11:31.159 --> 00:11:34.840 game that and I thought about this recently. The new 257 00:11:34.879 --> 00:11:36.360 God of War I think. 258 00:11:36.279 --> 00:11:37.480 Is my favorite as well. 259 00:11:37.519 --> 00:11:39.759 I just I don't know, I connected with that game 260 00:11:39.799 --> 00:11:41.240 in a way that I didn't think I was going to. 261 00:11:42.240 --> 00:11:44.039 I just kind of fell in love with it. And obviously, 262 00:11:44.759 --> 00:11:47.679 but I mean, we built our entire company on from 263 00:11:47.720 --> 00:11:50.639 Soft Games, and I famously never played once. 264 00:11:52.440 --> 00:11:53.159 I think I've played. 265 00:11:53.279 --> 00:11:55.200 I mean the most I've ever played was we did 266 00:11:55.519 --> 00:11:57.960 we did a video seeing if we could finish Dark 267 00:11:58.000 --> 00:12:01.639 Souls on a plane on the flight back from LA 268 00:12:01.759 --> 00:12:04.840 to London. And that's the most I've ever played Dark Souls. 269 00:12:04.879 --> 00:12:08.279 I think really that video is absolutely incredible and everyone 270 00:12:08.279 --> 00:12:10.559 should watch it. 271 00:12:11.080 --> 00:12:13.720 That's kind of what I'm more upset about COVID sort 272 00:12:13.759 --> 00:12:17.080 of fucking us, is that's the stuff that we want 273 00:12:17.120 --> 00:12:19.559 to make, you know, like we make, let's know, some stuff, 274 00:12:19.759 --> 00:12:22.279 but like we're in this to make cool ship like 275 00:12:22.320 --> 00:12:24.759 that because we can and we know that that's what 276 00:12:24.799 --> 00:12:27.519 people like. And we had so many plans for these 277 00:12:27.519 --> 00:12:30.600 big videos. Man that obviously the RONA is just absolutely shafted, 278 00:12:31.759 --> 00:12:32.399 but there we. 279 00:12:32.399 --> 00:12:36.159 Are, hopefully. Gav was one of the few people who 280 00:12:36.639 --> 00:12:39.320 who's been inside from software. 281 00:12:39.159 --> 00:12:43.480 Oh yeah, and walked in walked in yeah once legally 282 00:12:44.240 --> 00:12:45.679 once really illegally. 283 00:12:45.840 --> 00:12:48.240 I literally broke into from so. 284 00:12:49.840 --> 00:12:52.919 Story quickly, Well, hold on, did you learn anything about 285 00:12:52.919 --> 00:12:53.320 Eldon Ring? 286 00:12:53.360 --> 00:12:55.440 Because we're desperately This was. 287 00:12:55.679 --> 00:13:01.039 This was before Bloodborne, man, this was like okay. But 288 00:13:01.080 --> 00:13:05.559 basically I was on holiday and I was it was 289 00:13:05.639 --> 00:13:08.840 after a particularly bad breakup, and I was on holday 290 00:13:08.840 --> 00:13:10.919 in Japan, and I was with some buddies but we'd 291 00:13:10.919 --> 00:13:13.639 split up for like six days because they went somewhere 292 00:13:13.679 --> 00:13:15.559 else and I was just in Japan by myself and 293 00:13:15.679 --> 00:13:19.320 feeling particularly sad and down and hungover and jet lagged and. 294 00:13:19.600 --> 00:13:21.320 Didn't you know that jet lag where you don't really 295 00:13:21.399 --> 00:13:22.120 know what's going on. 296 00:13:23.039 --> 00:13:25.200 And I was having breakfast and I was like, I 297 00:13:25.279 --> 00:13:26.679 wonder where from because what. 298 00:13:26.799 --> 00:13:29.320 We've just done do souls three? 299 00:13:29.360 --> 00:13:29.720 I think? 300 00:13:30.759 --> 00:13:32.840 And I was like, oh, I wonder where. I wonder 301 00:13:32.879 --> 00:13:34.399 where it is. 302 00:13:34.440 --> 00:13:36.679 And I realized I was like a twenty five minute 303 00:13:36.679 --> 00:13:38.840 walk away from there. So I was like, I'll just 304 00:13:38.879 --> 00:13:41.399 go and take a photo outside and like posted that. 305 00:13:41.559 --> 00:13:43.759 So I went took a photo outside and I was 306 00:13:43.799 --> 00:13:45.720 like just you know, just tweeting and stuff. And it 307 00:13:45.759 --> 00:13:48.200 was when Instagram stories had just started, which probably makes 308 00:13:48.200 --> 00:13:50.200 me sound really old, but I was like six years ago, 309 00:13:50.240 --> 00:13:53.039 so it's not that old really, So I just mess 310 00:13:53.080 --> 00:13:55.039 around with that. And then I was like, okay, I'll 311 00:13:55.039 --> 00:13:57.000 go inside to the foyer. And it's obviously like if 312 00:13:57.080 --> 00:13:59.080 you've ever been to a Japanese company, it's not like 313 00:13:59.320 --> 00:14:02.360 you go in huge campus or anything. It looks boring 314 00:14:02.440 --> 00:14:04.360 as hell. And I walked in and then it was like, 315 00:14:04.600 --> 00:14:06.960 no one stopped me from getting in the left. Then 316 00:14:07.039 --> 00:14:09.320 no one stopped me from going to the floor, no 317 00:14:09.360 --> 00:14:12.200 one stopped me from going in the office, and it 318 00:14:12.279 --> 00:14:14.919 was this mad thing where I was like, I managed 319 00:14:14.960 --> 00:14:17.000 to get inside the office, but I think they just 320 00:14:17.039 --> 00:14:20.440 shipped the Dark Souls three DLC, so there was obviously 321 00:14:20.480 --> 00:14:24.759 just nobody. There was walking around looking at people's computers 322 00:14:24.759 --> 00:14:26.720 and shit like that, like it was so illegal. 323 00:14:26.840 --> 00:14:27.080 Man. 324 00:14:28.440 --> 00:14:30.559 I love the idea of it being exactly like a 325 00:14:30.600 --> 00:14:33.039 from software area where you walk in no one's around. 326 00:14:33.440 --> 00:14:35.799 It's slightly dangerous. You need to pick up like items 327 00:14:35.840 --> 00:14:37.919 and figure out where everyone is. 328 00:14:37.960 --> 00:14:40.559 It's only like years late text appearing in front of you. 329 00:14:40.679 --> 00:14:42.559 Absolutely, it was only like years later. 330 00:14:42.679 --> 00:14:45.240 I remember speaking to a buddy at Sony and she 331 00:14:45.399 --> 00:14:48.039 was like, yeah, that was a thing that day and 332 00:14:48.080 --> 00:14:50.000 I was like, really, it's like because I only just 333 00:14:50.000 --> 00:14:52.480 started working for IGN at that point and she was like, yeah, 334 00:14:52.720 --> 00:14:55.279 you know I was getting emails being like some of 335 00:14:55.360 --> 00:14:57.240 from IGN has broken into FROM. 336 00:14:59.320 --> 00:15:01.120 I was like, so sorry. 337 00:15:00.840 --> 00:15:02.799 That that was a thing you had to deal with, 338 00:15:04.759 --> 00:15:06.159 but I do it again in a heartbeat. 339 00:15:09.320 --> 00:15:10.960 Well, we shoul probably move on to what we've been 340 00:15:10.960 --> 00:15:13.320 playing this week, Tam, do you want to start. 341 00:15:13.360 --> 00:15:14.919 I'm not going to take up too much time because 342 00:15:14.919 --> 00:15:16.440 I want to hear what Gav has been up to 343 00:15:16.559 --> 00:15:18.519 and what Lucy has been up to, but I've been 344 00:15:18.559 --> 00:15:24.720 playing Psakiro again. I needed something to kind of occupy 345 00:15:24.759 --> 00:15:27.360 my mind and give me something to focus on. I'm 346 00:15:27.399 --> 00:15:30.320 feeling a bit aimless in the early part of this year, 347 00:15:30.600 --> 00:15:32.279 so I was like, oh, you know what, I played 348 00:15:32.480 --> 00:15:37.639 Securo for a review on my US account, so I 349 00:15:37.679 --> 00:15:41.759 don't have any like trophies or any progress for it 350 00:15:41.799 --> 00:15:47.600 on my main account. So I went, I downloaded that 351 00:15:47.639 --> 00:15:51.960 game again and basically started a fresh install, fresh game. Sorry, 352 00:15:52.000 --> 00:15:55.159 And yeah, I'm kind of in my mind, I'm thinking 353 00:15:55.159 --> 00:15:57.080 I'm going to aim for a platinum, but I'm not 354 00:15:57.120 --> 00:16:00.480 sure if i want to get the platinum because I've 355 00:16:00.480 --> 00:16:04.360 got one platinum and it's Bloodborn and it's been that 356 00:16:04.399 --> 00:16:07.120 way for maybe what four or five years, probably longer 357 00:16:07.159 --> 00:16:08.159 than since the game came out. 358 00:16:08.200 --> 00:16:10.480 Basically, I don't have a single platinum. 359 00:16:10.960 --> 00:16:13.279 Yeah. I make a point of not going for platinums 360 00:16:13.360 --> 00:16:16.159 because I'm like, I don't really want to grind for 361 00:16:16.360 --> 00:16:18.440 things like that, and I feel like it's more of 362 00:16:18.480 --> 00:16:20.440 a statement if I have one platinum than if I 363 00:16:20.519 --> 00:16:22.200 have twenty seven. 364 00:16:23.679 --> 00:16:24.519 Yeah, that is a statement. 365 00:16:24.559 --> 00:16:27.120 It's like when Canyo Wes was following one person, not 366 00:16:27.200 --> 00:16:30.480 yeah exactly. That's what it is, and I don't really 367 00:16:30.519 --> 00:16:32.080 want to add another one to it, but like I 368 00:16:32.120 --> 00:16:34.360 was thinking, I'll aim for it and then once I'm there, 369 00:16:35.159 --> 00:16:37.279 I'll decide if I want to add the second one. 370 00:16:37.279 --> 00:16:40.559 Because Securo still having two platinums is I feel like 371 00:16:40.679 --> 00:16:42.759 I lose the statement of only having one, but then 372 00:16:42.799 --> 00:16:45.360 I make the statement of I have the two from 373 00:16:45.399 --> 00:16:46.120 software games. 374 00:16:46.200 --> 00:16:48.679 Okay, yeah, yeah, but then you've got to do the other. 375 00:16:48.960 --> 00:16:53.799 Now that's that's where I'm like, which which includes So 376 00:16:53.840 --> 00:16:56.120 I think Krouper started doing that right Like he he 377 00:16:56.240 --> 00:16:57.879 started doing a bunch of them, and I think he 378 00:16:57.960 --> 00:16:59.919 got yeah, and I was like, I don't want to 379 00:16:59.919 --> 00:17:01.840 be in that situation because he's got like there's some 380 00:17:01.879 --> 00:17:03.279 Covenant stuff that's messed up. 381 00:17:03.399 --> 00:17:04.079 Oh yeah. 382 00:17:04.319 --> 00:17:05.480 So I was like, I don't want to do it. 383 00:17:05.519 --> 00:17:07.720 That's a whole thing, man, Like so Croops has been 384 00:17:07.720 --> 00:17:10.960 doing it for our Patreon producers, so people support us 385 00:17:10.960 --> 00:17:12.920 of like twenty dollars and above, they get access to 386 00:17:12.960 --> 00:17:16.160 these like private live streams, which is just most of 387 00:17:16.200 --> 00:17:19.480 it is at the moment, just Daniel streaming for like 388 00:17:19.519 --> 00:17:22.079 eight hours, just grinding shit, trying to get But he 389 00:17:22.079 --> 00:17:24.319 did the Dark Souls one platinum and he's doing the 390 00:17:24.400 --> 00:17:27.519 Dark Souls three platinum, but like I think he's shared 391 00:17:27.640 --> 00:17:29.480 on Twitter, I'm not sure. I'll have to send you, guys, 392 00:17:29.519 --> 00:17:31.200 you have to put it in the description of this 393 00:17:31.200 --> 00:17:34.200 podcast or something. But we have this amazing guy who's 394 00:17:34.200 --> 00:17:37.680 into our communical Ryan, and he made basically E coded 395 00:17:37.799 --> 00:17:41.640 this spreadsheet that is basically like updates as he gets 396 00:17:41.640 --> 00:17:43.720 these different rings and all this different stuff. 397 00:17:43.880 --> 00:17:44.200 It is. 398 00:17:44.799 --> 00:17:47.720 It's a job, man, Yeah. 399 00:17:47.319 --> 00:17:49.440 I don't want it to be a job. So I've 400 00:17:49.480 --> 00:17:52.440 been doing that and I'll just I'll figure out whether 401 00:17:52.480 --> 00:17:55.039 I want to actually hit that platinum and then go 402 00:17:55.119 --> 00:17:58.200 from there. But I'm really enjoying jumping back into psaco 403 00:17:58.279 --> 00:18:03.480 again and feeling that that specific style of combat it's 404 00:18:03.680 --> 00:18:05.559 really still works and it still feels like some of 405 00:18:05.559 --> 00:18:08.480 the best combat. And then I've been playing Yakuza, but 406 00:18:08.559 --> 00:18:09.920 I'll talk about that. 407 00:18:10.079 --> 00:18:12.400 I was looking at like it was it SOUNI Legend 408 00:18:12.480 --> 00:18:15.519 on Twitter does a lot of those gifts, and they've 409 00:18:15.519 --> 00:18:17.519 been doing some Securo ones recently. 410 00:18:17.559 --> 00:18:19.559 I mean they've been doing it since the game came. 411 00:18:19.400 --> 00:18:21.880 Out, but I was looking at one of the more 412 00:18:21.920 --> 00:18:24.160 recent ones and I was like, man, you probably didn't 413 00:18:24.160 --> 00:18:25.480 have to do a lot of work to get this 414 00:18:25.599 --> 00:18:28.839 because the combat itself looks so damn good already and 415 00:18:29.000 --> 00:18:32.039 so cinematic, and like the hip boxes, I think was 416 00:18:32.079 --> 00:18:35.200 something that always apprised that game, Like that game ridiculous. 417 00:18:35.359 --> 00:18:37.880 They're they're perfect. It seems there's like. 418 00:18:37.799 --> 00:18:40.519 A there's a specific gift that's a legend's done where 419 00:18:41.279 --> 00:18:44.160 I can't remember which which enemy is, but I mean 420 00:18:44.200 --> 00:18:45.920 it's one of the ones that tries to kick you, 421 00:18:46.519 --> 00:18:48.880 and there's like four different versions of them, and like 422 00:18:48.960 --> 00:18:52.119 the hip box for Securo was like he ducked underneath 423 00:18:52.200 --> 00:18:56.000 the kick and it was like an actual slide underneath 424 00:18:56.039 --> 00:18:58.920 the limb and the hip box is never connected and 425 00:18:58.960 --> 00:19:00.759 that was like onbelievable. 426 00:19:02.799 --> 00:19:05.160 Yeah, right, like unless your game you just take damage 427 00:19:05.160 --> 00:19:06.680 from that because you're in the vicinity. 428 00:19:06.799 --> 00:19:10.920 But there's actual fighting games street Fighters and tecans Is 429 00:19:10.960 --> 00:19:11.519 that don't have. 430 00:19:13.799 --> 00:19:16.640 Precise Yeah, that's true, that's wild. 431 00:19:16.799 --> 00:19:16.960 Yeah. 432 00:19:17.000 --> 00:19:18.519 I love seeing all those gifts and stuff. 433 00:19:18.519 --> 00:19:19.799 I think it was you Town that shared one and 434 00:19:19.799 --> 00:19:24.359 it was like that shows the similarities between Sakuro and Awls, 435 00:19:24.400 --> 00:19:27.160 like he's trained him because I have a lot of 436 00:19:27.160 --> 00:19:29.400 the same like mannerisms and things like that. And I 437 00:19:29.440 --> 00:19:31.440 think like the one it's not it's not in a 438 00:19:31.480 --> 00:19:34.440 fighting thing, but someone shared it or someone showed center 439 00:19:34.480 --> 00:19:37.240 to me, and it's basically like in the first again 440 00:19:37.319 --> 00:19:40.960 a CHERI fight when you lose your arm, like pulling 441 00:19:40.960 --> 00:19:42.519 his blade out and stumbling. 442 00:19:42.920 --> 00:19:43.680 Yeah, Like. 443 00:19:45.759 --> 00:19:49.119 It's like that is unbelievable, and also so many little 444 00:19:49.160 --> 00:19:50.519 things like that. He's just like I would never have 445 00:19:50.599 --> 00:19:51.039 noticed that. 446 00:19:51.039 --> 00:19:55.880 That's amazing legend as well, what an amazing account, Like 447 00:19:56.119 --> 00:19:57.759 there's a there's a giff he did for Definite micro 448 00:19:57.880 --> 00:20:00.599 five the neuro DLC the other day, and it's like 449 00:20:00.880 --> 00:20:04.240 Nero is not Nero a Virgil. Virgil is just standing 450 00:20:04.279 --> 00:20:08.680 there and like he's just like he's going through stances 451 00:20:08.720 --> 00:20:11.440 with his sword. But while he's doing that and like 452 00:20:11.799 --> 00:20:15.160 a demon apparition that he's summoned is fighting an enemy 453 00:20:15.240 --> 00:20:18.240 around him, and all he's doing is like flexing his 454 00:20:18.319 --> 00:20:21.079 sword and then like charging up and then it ends 455 00:20:21.119 --> 00:20:23.559 with him like he's basically doing cutters and then he 456 00:20:23.720 --> 00:20:25.720 ends and just like takes his sword out and delivers 457 00:20:25.720 --> 00:20:28.400 one hit and kills the enemy. It looks unreal. It 458 00:20:28.400 --> 00:20:30.119 looks like you look at it and you're like, how 459 00:20:30.200 --> 00:20:32.559 is this in a game, and how has this been captured? 460 00:20:32.599 --> 00:20:37.079 It's ridiculous. Yeah, great, count Well. 461 00:20:36.920 --> 00:20:39.440 I'll go next because I haven't really been playing anything new. 462 00:20:39.480 --> 00:20:41.039 I think I talked about it last week too. It's 463 00:20:41.039 --> 00:20:43.720 just Risk of Rain two. That game is so good. 464 00:20:44.000 --> 00:20:47.559 Highly recommend it, especially if you've got some friends. But 465 00:20:47.799 --> 00:20:50.599 just the way you're able to build your character through 466 00:20:50.640 --> 00:20:53.960 each run is just so incredible. Like you'll start out 467 00:20:54.319 --> 00:20:58.680 with a simple dash ability that gets you from you 468 00:20:58.680 --> 00:21:00.440 know er point A to point B with a slow 469 00:21:00.480 --> 00:21:02.480 cool down, and then by the end you are like 470 00:21:02.920 --> 00:21:06.000 not even touching the ground because you've got so many 471 00:21:06.440 --> 00:21:08.359 I forget what they're called hard light after burners that 472 00:21:08.400 --> 00:21:09.759 you're just zipping around the map. 473 00:21:09.799 --> 00:21:12.440 Like just the way that game the gameplay. 474 00:21:12.000 --> 00:21:14.680 Evolves over like an hour, I mean, if you last 475 00:21:14.680 --> 00:21:17.160 an hour is it is something I've never seen before. 476 00:21:17.200 --> 00:21:21.000 The game is super impressive. I highly recommend it. But yeah, 477 00:21:21.079 --> 00:21:23.160 that that game is amazing. But that's all I'll say 478 00:21:23.160 --> 00:21:26.319 because I talked a lot about it last week. But Lucy, 479 00:21:26.400 --> 00:21:28.319 you weren't on last weeks would. 480 00:21:28.119 --> 00:21:32.519 Have keepen up to uh So I am trying in 481 00:21:32.759 --> 00:21:36.480 twenty twenty one to not replay old stuff and watch 482 00:21:36.519 --> 00:21:39.359 old stuff to kind of push myself to actually experience 483 00:21:39.480 --> 00:21:42.920 new stuff. So I've got a big list of stuff 484 00:21:42.920 --> 00:21:45.599 that I want to work through. I played the Last Campfire, 485 00:21:45.920 --> 00:21:48.759 which is a little puzzle game by Hello Games, and 486 00:21:48.799 --> 00:21:52.799 it's fantastic. I think the sale ends today, but I 487 00:21:52.839 --> 00:21:56.799 picked it up for like nine quid and if you're 488 00:21:56.799 --> 00:21:59.039 into it, you can platinum it in one run, which 489 00:21:59.079 --> 00:21:59.359 I did. 490 00:21:59.440 --> 00:22:01.240 If I wasn't the podcast, would you have said nine 491 00:22:01.279 --> 00:22:04.200 dollars then no, because I still. 492 00:22:03.960 --> 00:22:09.559 Have a UK PSN account. Nine good. It was fantastic 493 00:22:09.599 --> 00:22:12.319 and it's like a really well put together puzzle game, 494 00:22:12.519 --> 00:22:16.640 very beautiful and also quite sad but very melancholic, but 495 00:22:16.640 --> 00:22:20.680 it's very good. But the PS five, well it's PS four, 496 00:22:20.680 --> 00:22:23.599 but I played like my PS five. I loved it. 497 00:22:23.799 --> 00:22:25.039 I think it's from the Switch as well. 498 00:22:25.799 --> 00:22:29.920 Yeah, I think it's a it's on a bunch of stuff. 499 00:22:29.960 --> 00:22:31.640 It's not on game Pass because otherwise I would have 500 00:22:31.680 --> 00:22:33.279 fixed up on that. But I'm actually glad that I 501 00:22:33.319 --> 00:22:36.359 bought it because like, obviously Hello Games have no Man's 502 00:22:36.359 --> 00:22:38.640 Sky going, but it's I wanted to support them in 503 00:22:38.640 --> 00:22:41.160 a different way. But the main thing I've been doing 504 00:22:41.680 --> 00:22:45.319 is watching the expense because for years people have been 505 00:22:45.359 --> 00:22:47.440 telling me that I would enjoy the expense, and I 506 00:22:47.559 --> 00:22:50.319 just didn't get around to watching it. And then in 507 00:22:50.359 --> 00:22:56.640 this twenty twenty one, I, you know, decided to finally 508 00:22:56.680 --> 00:22:59.680 watch it instead of watching Battlestar Galactica Again. What turns 509 00:22:59.680 --> 00:23:04.119 out it's basically Battlestar Galactica but with a mad budget, 510 00:23:04.880 --> 00:23:08.599 and it has like it hit some of the highs 511 00:23:08.599 --> 00:23:10.160 of Battlestar for sure for me. 512 00:23:10.279 --> 00:23:11.319 How much of it have you watched? 513 00:23:12.240 --> 00:23:17.640 I'm halfway through season three and I started yesterday a 514 00:23:17.680 --> 00:23:18.680 week and a half ago. 515 00:23:20.759 --> 00:23:21.559 Amazing effort. 516 00:23:22.079 --> 00:23:24.200 Yeah. But the thing is as well, it's because I 517 00:23:24.240 --> 00:23:26.839 was thinking about this, is that each season, like seasons 518 00:23:26.839 --> 00:23:29.440 one and two. Season one is ten episodes, season two 519 00:23:29.519 --> 00:23:30.119 is like thirteen. 520 00:23:30.400 --> 00:23:30.599 Yeah. 521 00:23:30.680 --> 00:23:33.759 I was like, that is a perfect length for a series. 522 00:23:34.319 --> 00:23:37.680 How on earth did we think twenty four episodes of 523 00:23:37.759 --> 00:23:40.079 forty five minutes to an hour long TV was okay? 524 00:23:40.279 --> 00:23:42.279 I blamed twenty four Well. 525 00:23:42.279 --> 00:23:44.839 Because it's how you get like the absolute shitter episodes 526 00:23:44.880 --> 00:23:47.920 of last Jack's Tattoos. 527 00:23:48.000 --> 00:23:50.240 I'm looking oh yeah, oh my god, I forgot that, 528 00:23:51.160 --> 00:23:52.119 nik NICKI and. 529 00:23:54.279 --> 00:23:59.599 That episode is a banger. Yeah, I love it. I 530 00:23:59.640 --> 00:24:00.119 love it. 531 00:24:00.119 --> 00:24:02.039 It's such a weird one because I think they could 532 00:24:02.039 --> 00:24:04.480 have been really interesting, but then they were shoehorned in 533 00:24:04.559 --> 00:24:05.680 for just that episode. 534 00:24:05.920 --> 00:24:08.680 Isn't Like yeah, isn't. Isn't that like the episode that 535 00:24:08.720 --> 00:24:13.640 they use as the springboard for the game, this one 536 00:24:13.960 --> 00:24:17.480 random episode which is basically like the springboard for the game, 537 00:24:17.839 --> 00:24:18.960 And you're like, wow. 538 00:24:18.680 --> 00:24:21.680 Because don't you play a different survivor that like showed 539 00:24:21.720 --> 00:24:23.680 up in the background of an episode. 540 00:24:23.440 --> 00:24:25.799 Something like Lost what is it called Lost? 541 00:24:25.880 --> 00:24:27.160 Via don't vio doormous? 542 00:24:27.799 --> 00:24:30.119 I played like fifteen minutes of it because I was 543 00:24:30.160 --> 00:24:31.079 really into the show at the time. 544 00:24:31.160 --> 00:24:32.079 I was like, this is bad. 545 00:24:32.759 --> 00:24:35.920 I got the first smoke wonstan Counter and I was like, oh. 546 00:24:36.039 --> 00:24:38.640 Yeah, the same thing happened with twenty four. I was like, oh, like, 547 00:24:38.720 --> 00:24:40.920 we take this random moment of twenty four and turn 548 00:24:40.960 --> 00:24:43.720 it into I bought twenty four. I started it, and 549 00:24:43.920 --> 00:24:47.200 I had an immediate bug where Jack Bower wasn't visible, 550 00:24:47.359 --> 00:24:50.279 only his gun was, And I was like, well, I 551 00:24:50.359 --> 00:24:52.839 basically bought this game to be Jack Beller and it 552 00:24:52.880 --> 00:24:54.720 won't let me see him, So I've done with this. 553 00:24:55.039 --> 00:24:56.559 Was that the game that was on PS two that 554 00:24:56.680 --> 00:24:59.680 was a good game, man, it had it was generally 555 00:24:59.720 --> 00:25:04.759 good because it had these absolutely wild like hacking minigames 556 00:25:04.799 --> 00:25:07.680 in it and like diffusing mini games in it so well. 557 00:25:08.759 --> 00:25:11.559 So like if you if your license game has a 558 00:25:11.559 --> 00:25:14.559 hacking minigame in it, you're good because like enter the Matrix, 559 00:25:15.000 --> 00:25:16.720 like everyone thought that was gonna be a shier, but 560 00:25:16.759 --> 00:25:18.680 then you get that, you get that hacking minigame when 561 00:25:18.680 --> 00:25:19.599 you're like, oh, this is sick. 562 00:25:19.960 --> 00:25:20.920 Oh I love it. 563 00:25:20.920 --> 00:25:22.839 It's crazy how far licensed games have come. 564 00:25:22.920 --> 00:25:29.039 Yeah, speaking automatic and talk about them very soon, but anyway, 565 00:25:29.279 --> 00:25:32.799 now it's time to talk about Yakuza. 566 00:25:31.839 --> 00:25:33.440 Get that's the thing. 567 00:25:33.480 --> 00:25:36.000 I was like, I felt really bad because I was like, 568 00:25:36.039 --> 00:25:40.400 I know this is basically an unofficial Yakuza podcast, but 569 00:25:40.559 --> 00:25:42.200 maybe I'll fit in a little bit. But yeah, it 570 00:25:42.240 --> 00:25:44.960 was like, I've never played the Yakuza game before. I 571 00:25:45.000 --> 00:25:47.480 played about fifteen hours of Judgment and really liked it, 572 00:25:47.519 --> 00:25:49.559 but it was one of those things where I can 573 00:25:49.680 --> 00:25:51.200 I just fell off, and then when I went back, 574 00:25:51.240 --> 00:25:54.039 I had no idea what was going on, and I 575 00:25:54.079 --> 00:25:56.519 just I spent a couple of hours trying to like remember, 576 00:25:56.559 --> 00:25:58.440 and it just wasn't gonna happen. So I just was like, 577 00:25:58.559 --> 00:25:59.920 I'm gonna have to go back and start that from 578 00:26:00.000 --> 00:26:02.160 Gratch if I ever do it. But with Yakus, I 579 00:26:02.200 --> 00:26:05.240 was like, well, I've got an Xbox, I haven't got 580 00:26:05.759 --> 00:26:09.440 like much new stuff, so I was like, I'll give 581 00:26:09.480 --> 00:26:11.200 it a go because I heard like, you don't need 582 00:26:11.240 --> 00:26:13.279 to have played all the other yakuzas and stuff to 583 00:26:13.319 --> 00:26:16.559 be able to enjoy it. Man, I'm like chapter eleven, 584 00:26:18.319 --> 00:26:23.720 I love it. It's so strange, but it's so bloody charming. 585 00:26:24.240 --> 00:26:27.440 It's like I played if I picked it up just 586 00:26:27.480 --> 00:26:31.279 before Christmas and during like the Christmas that like dead 587 00:26:31.319 --> 00:26:33.680 time between Christmas and New Year where everyone is basically 588 00:26:33.720 --> 00:26:36.160 just turn around in circles, which is even worse this 589 00:26:36.240 --> 00:26:38.720 year because no one could do anything. But I was like, 590 00:26:38.799 --> 00:26:40.680 I couldn't sleep, So I was getting up with like 591 00:26:40.680 --> 00:26:42.720 a half past six in the morning playing like three 592 00:26:42.799 --> 00:26:45.680 or four hours of Yakuza before my partner woke up, 593 00:26:46.440 --> 00:26:47.000 and I. 594 00:26:47.000 --> 00:26:47.440 Just loved it. 595 00:26:47.480 --> 00:26:49.440 I just completely fall in love with it. Like this, 596 00:26:49.559 --> 00:26:51.960 I don't think is a perfect game by any stretch 597 00:26:52.000 --> 00:26:54.799 of the imagination. Like I don't think it's gonna make 598 00:26:54.839 --> 00:26:58.119 me want to go back and play the other yaku games. 599 00:26:58.160 --> 00:27:02.440 At all, but my time with it, I'm just really enjoying. 600 00:27:02.519 --> 00:27:05.720 I just think it's it's just because I have I 601 00:27:05.720 --> 00:27:08.680 don't have many other than love in Japan and have 602 00:27:08.839 --> 00:27:10.720 been to Japan a few times. I don't have many 603 00:27:10.759 --> 00:27:14.599 like Japanese cultural touch points really, Whereas like I played 604 00:27:14.680 --> 00:27:17.200 Valhalla like Assassin Qui Valhala for a bit and you're like, 605 00:27:17.400 --> 00:27:19.799 you play it and you go, yeah, I reckon the 606 00:27:19.799 --> 00:27:23.440 writers for this probably really into Game of Thrones where 607 00:27:24.200 --> 00:27:26.759 because it's fucking like playing a Game of Thrones. 608 00:27:27.640 --> 00:27:30.200 Whereas I feel like with Yakuza, I. 609 00:27:30.160 --> 00:27:32.960 Have no idea what's going on and it feels completely new, 610 00:27:33.960 --> 00:27:37.000 but the story is there's not a lot going on 611 00:27:37.000 --> 00:27:39.960 in the story really is like you know, rival Yakuza clans, 612 00:27:40.000 --> 00:27:43.319 and like the actual storyline is is basically like a 613 00:27:43.319 --> 00:27:47.079 Steven Sagal movie stretched out over like really long. 614 00:27:48.720 --> 00:27:49.839 Daddy, whyet you love me? 615 00:27:50.079 --> 00:27:51.119 Yeah? 616 00:27:51.160 --> 00:27:54.039 But yeah, I've just completely fallen in love with every character, 617 00:27:54.119 --> 00:27:58.640 like Itchi is like it's just something else, and I 618 00:27:58.680 --> 00:28:01.559 feel like the writing it, like the one bit I 619 00:28:01.559 --> 00:28:03.960 think is quite a famous bit, but it's the bit 620 00:28:04.000 --> 00:28:06.079 where you meet one of the heads of the Yakers. 621 00:28:06.079 --> 00:28:08.039 The time for ages and he lays out this entire 622 00:28:08.200 --> 00:28:11.680 big plan and about why you know, everything is biffed 623 00:28:11.720 --> 00:28:14.519 and everything everyone's about to have a really really horrible time, 624 00:28:14.759 --> 00:28:18.000 and Itchy Man looks terrified and he goes, I know 625 00:28:18.079 --> 00:28:19.960 I should be scared by this, but what you just 626 00:28:20.000 --> 00:28:21.119 said was awesome. 627 00:28:23.720 --> 00:28:25.559 They're so good. I love this. 628 00:28:25.480 --> 00:28:27.880 Game because it just feels like it's doing all this, 629 00:28:28.079 --> 00:28:30.880 like it really embraces how just odd it is as 630 00:28:30.880 --> 00:28:31.240 a game. 631 00:28:32.079 --> 00:28:33.599 But I'm completely smitten with it. 632 00:28:33.720 --> 00:28:33.880 Man. 633 00:28:34.799 --> 00:28:37.640 Yeah, I think it is a character and everyone like numbers, 634 00:28:37.680 --> 00:28:41.920 amazing numbers. Number is good. I like a Dutch a 635 00:28:41.920 --> 00:28:45.240 lot as well, because it's yeah, an absolute top ten 636 00:28:45.319 --> 00:28:50.480 three loader, various other all the characters are really endearing 637 00:28:50.519 --> 00:28:52.559 and that's kind of like that's the one thing that 638 00:28:52.960 --> 00:28:56.519 is kind of at the core of all yukers there games. Yeah, 639 00:28:56.640 --> 00:28:59.559 and this game does it really well. But I don't know, 640 00:28:59.640 --> 00:29:02.799 like this feels like a The interesting thing is like 641 00:29:02.839 --> 00:29:06.119 the gameplay. It seems like, on the surface when you 642 00:29:06.160 --> 00:29:08.039 look at it, like a turn based RPG should be 643 00:29:08.079 --> 00:29:10.039 more hardcore, but it actually turns out it makes it 644 00:29:10.079 --> 00:29:13.000 easier for people to get into. It's less demanding, and 645 00:29:13.039 --> 00:29:15.839 the pace is different, whereas like I think Kiss always 646 00:29:15.839 --> 00:29:18.599 still the best in the franchise, but like it the 647 00:29:19.279 --> 00:29:21.720 like real time combat can make it tricky for people, 648 00:29:22.559 --> 00:29:24.359 so like Yuckers are like a dragon, It's definitely like 649 00:29:24.359 --> 00:29:27.279 the best entry point to get everything. To understand why 650 00:29:27.319 --> 00:29:28.480 people love that franchise. 651 00:29:28.880 --> 00:29:31.079 Yeah, I do kind of like it because Tom, you 652 00:29:31.119 --> 00:29:32.640 and I were talking about it over What'sapup a little 653 00:29:32.640 --> 00:29:35.640 bit where it was just like anytime that you like, 654 00:29:35.720 --> 00:29:38.440 I love tern based like RPG fighting. 655 00:29:38.519 --> 00:29:39.279 I think it's awesome. 656 00:29:39.359 --> 00:29:42.119 Like I loved what Found Fantasy sevend remake did with 657 00:29:42.400 --> 00:29:45.440 the new combat system though that was great, but I 658 00:29:45.480 --> 00:29:47.880 did I did kind of want to see what a 659 00:29:48.079 --> 00:29:51.599 proper turn based thing was going to look like. And 660 00:29:51.640 --> 00:29:53.680 I think with this, if you have a turn based COMBA, 661 00:29:53.680 --> 00:29:55.359 I think you can guarantee it's going to be set 662 00:29:55.400 --> 00:29:58.799 in some random fantasy world of And that's just stuff 663 00:29:58.799 --> 00:30:01.440 that I'm just not interested in, Like as as someone 664 00:30:01.440 --> 00:30:04.240 who like as a story thing, that's not something interesting 665 00:30:04.319 --> 00:30:06.799 me at all, Whereas this is like a modern game, 666 00:30:06.839 --> 00:30:09.720 but it does all this wild turn based stuff, which 667 00:30:09.720 --> 00:30:11.759 I think is just great and I've kind of missed 668 00:30:11.799 --> 00:30:14.759 that a little bit. You know, like actually thinking about 669 00:30:14.759 --> 00:30:16.799 what I'm going to be doing a strategizing moves and 670 00:30:16.799 --> 00:30:19.119 things like that, Like I've really really missed that video games, 671 00:30:19.160 --> 00:30:20.680 and I think this does it really well. 672 00:30:21.160 --> 00:30:23.559 Have you used number as a shove technique to push 673 00:30:23.559 --> 00:30:25.279 someone into a road so they get hit by a car. 674 00:30:25.759 --> 00:30:27.400 It's amazing, It's so good. 675 00:30:28.279 --> 00:30:30.799 That's the thing that I'm kind of like, I don't 676 00:30:31.240 --> 00:30:32.359 I kind of it kind of. 677 00:30:32.480 --> 00:30:34.960 Works a lot for the way that the. 678 00:30:34.920 --> 00:30:37.480 Fights meant to be happening, because basically they're meant to 679 00:30:37.480 --> 00:30:39.880 be happening as real fights, but in Itchi Band's head, 680 00:30:40.400 --> 00:30:42.200 they are dragon quest fights. 681 00:30:42.480 --> 00:30:44.240 So it's like this weird thing where. 682 00:30:44.599 --> 00:30:47.799 In a normal fight, the world would stop around you, 683 00:30:49.079 --> 00:30:50.920 and you go in a fight where obviously, like you're 684 00:30:50.960 --> 00:30:53.000 in the middle of the road, you run into people, 685 00:30:53.400 --> 00:30:55.680 there's going to be stuff going on. And I feel 686 00:30:55.680 --> 00:30:58.480 like the first time that I run past someone and 687 00:30:58.519 --> 00:31:01.480 they just kind of booted me up the art us 688 00:31:01.480 --> 00:31:03.440 like the other enemy like booting me at the US, 689 00:31:03.440 --> 00:31:06.640 I was like, Oh, that's great, that's really clever because 690 00:31:06.799 --> 00:31:08.200 it's it's exactly what would happen. 691 00:31:08.200 --> 00:31:09.240 It completely makes sense. 692 00:31:10.279 --> 00:31:13.200 Yeah, I love him, man, Like it's just also like, 693 00:31:13.240 --> 00:31:15.640 my partner's been watching me play I keep saying my 694 00:31:15.640 --> 00:31:17.480 partner because Jake isn't but like you guys know Clara, 695 00:31:17.799 --> 00:31:19.480 but like you've been watching me play it, and it's 696 00:31:19.480 --> 00:31:23.880 so weird watching someone seeing stuff happen out of context. 697 00:31:24.640 --> 00:31:27.480 Like the other day when I was just like shipping myself, 698 00:31:27.519 --> 00:31:30.720 I was like, oh, I'll summon the baby dude, and. 699 00:31:33.680 --> 00:31:35.680 This guy comes in and then you know, he messes 700 00:31:35.759 --> 00:31:38.759 up all the guys you're fighting, and Carus is watching all. 701 00:31:38.680 --> 00:31:40.839 Going like this is amazing, so funny. 702 00:31:41.519 --> 00:31:47.240 I think, Yeah, someone Nancy like yeah, the crustacean and 703 00:31:47.319 --> 00:31:50.359 it's so good. What's going on here? Like explaining parts 704 00:31:50.400 --> 00:31:55.240 of that game to people, like try explaining to anyone 705 00:31:55.400 --> 00:31:59.680 where Ichiban was born and raised like that, how do 706 00:31:59.720 --> 00:32:02.039 you think explain what a soap land is? The fact 707 00:32:02.079 --> 00:32:05.599 that soap lands are okay, it's ridiculous. 708 00:32:06.119 --> 00:32:07.680 Also, as well as we were meant to go to 709 00:32:07.799 --> 00:32:09.680 I was meant to go to Japan twice last year. 710 00:32:09.720 --> 00:32:11.559 Obviously the book got canceled. We were talking about going 711 00:32:11.559 --> 00:32:14.839 to Japan together, like yeah, like that obviously, like I 712 00:32:14.880 --> 00:32:16.640 think we were talking about going right now. 713 00:32:17.119 --> 00:32:18.279 Yeah, yeah, I was. 714 00:32:18.359 --> 00:32:20.839 I was looking back at that discord chat and it 715 00:32:20.880 --> 00:32:23.200 was like about a year ago we set it up 716 00:32:23.200 --> 00:32:26.319 and it was like, Okay, let's go like January and everything. 717 00:32:26.319 --> 00:32:26.880 I'll be fine. 718 00:32:26.920 --> 00:32:28.720 Then it's ridiculous, that's all right. 719 00:32:28.759 --> 00:32:30.519 It just means I can keep saving and when we. 720 00:32:30.519 --> 00:32:33.880 Eventually go, like, we'll be the most decadent trip ever. 721 00:32:33.960 --> 00:32:34.160 Yeah. 722 00:32:34.319 --> 00:32:37.400 Yeah, so much money, so many soap lands, so many 723 00:32:37.440 --> 00:32:38.240 soap plans. 724 00:32:39.240 --> 00:32:41.240 But that's the thing that hit the hole. 725 00:32:42.720 --> 00:32:45.240 Whereas like now I'm at least I'm getting to experience 726 00:32:45.240 --> 00:32:46.880 a little tiny bit of Japan a little bit, like 727 00:32:47.079 --> 00:32:50.200 and you walk into those shops and like the sound 728 00:32:50.240 --> 00:32:53.839 of the shop, like the ambient sound of those supermarkets, 729 00:32:53.839 --> 00:32:57.599 those little Coombanie stores, Like that is exactly how they sound. 730 00:32:57.680 --> 00:33:00.079 It's so like I stuck on headphones and play. 731 00:33:00.160 --> 00:33:02.480 I was like, I feel like it's five am and 732 00:33:02.480 --> 00:33:05.839 I'm pissed walking around getting those little cupsack's. 733 00:33:06.359 --> 00:33:07.759 Kind of an egg salad sandwich. 734 00:33:07.880 --> 00:33:08.480 Yeah exactly. 735 00:33:08.519 --> 00:33:12.799 Oh don't someone on my someone I follow on Instagram 736 00:33:13.400 --> 00:33:15.680 lives out in Japan and she's an American woman. She 737 00:33:15.720 --> 00:33:18.480 lives in Japan, and she just posted this thing about 738 00:33:18.519 --> 00:33:22.799 egg salad sandwiches. The Seven eleven ones and you know, 739 00:33:23.480 --> 00:33:25.920 and I was like immediately overcome with this craving for them. 740 00:33:26.000 --> 00:33:29.440 So I literally did like I was about to hunt 741 00:33:29.440 --> 00:33:31.599 down a recipe and go buy all. And then I 742 00:33:31.680 --> 00:33:33.640 realized that was the beginning of the fourty year old 743 00:33:33.720 --> 00:33:37.000 Virgin where he spends an entire weekend making an egg 744 00:33:37.039 --> 00:33:37.799 salad sandwich. 745 00:33:37.920 --> 00:33:40.200 And I was like, I mean, I'm gonna I'm gonna 746 00:33:40.200 --> 00:33:42.519 do it anyway, because every time I go to Japan, 747 00:33:42.799 --> 00:33:45.200 like various people have been witnessed to this, the first 748 00:33:45.200 --> 00:33:46.799 thing I do is go to a seven eleven and 749 00:33:46.839 --> 00:33:49.279 buy about ten of those and buy like coffees and 750 00:33:49.319 --> 00:33:51.519 stock up my entire like Fredge and I'm good. 751 00:33:51.640 --> 00:33:53.599 There's the biggest culture shock when I went to Japan 752 00:33:53.759 --> 00:33:55.759 having lived in America my entire life and thinking of 753 00:33:55.799 --> 00:33:59.240 seven elevens is these really shitty city places like have 754 00:33:59.400 --> 00:34:01.759 really bad like you'd never get food from a seven 755 00:34:01.839 --> 00:34:04.079 eleven unless you were on a road trip and that 756 00:34:04.200 --> 00:34:05.079 was the only. 757 00:34:04.799 --> 00:34:06.039 Thing you could possibly find. 758 00:34:06.079 --> 00:34:08.280 And then going to Japan and it's like, wow, I 759 00:34:08.320 --> 00:34:10.599 just bought everything here and all of it is so good. 760 00:34:10.920 --> 00:34:11.079 Yeah. 761 00:34:11.199 --> 00:34:13.400 Well that's the thing is, like, you know, anywhere in America, 762 00:34:13.440 --> 00:34:16.119 they've probably got like those like monthly like crates where 763 00:34:16.199 --> 00:34:18.880 it's just someone going into a seven eleven in Japan, 764 00:34:19.199 --> 00:34:22.119 empty into a box, charging an American like eighty five 765 00:34:22.159 --> 00:34:23.039 bucks for it and. 766 00:34:22.960 --> 00:34:25.519 Be like, there you go, this is Japan box luke crate. 767 00:34:25.559 --> 00:34:25.880 There you go. 768 00:34:29.599 --> 00:34:31.400 But yeah, man, I've I've I've fallen in love with 769 00:34:31.400 --> 00:34:31.960 it completely. 770 00:34:32.039 --> 00:34:34.280 You've also been playing through the Uncharted or watching your 771 00:34:34.280 --> 00:34:35.320 partner play through and Charted? 772 00:34:35.400 --> 00:34:38.280 Yeah, no, I I watched my My partner's a tattoo artist, 773 00:34:38.920 --> 00:34:42.480 and obviously, like with Lockdown, she can't tattoo. So in 774 00:34:42.559 --> 00:34:47.000 Lockdown one, she got obsessed and played through the witcher 775 00:34:47.239 --> 00:34:49.960 three because it was on game Pass, and this time 776 00:34:50.119 --> 00:34:52.159 I was like, good game. I was like, and now 777 00:34:52.199 --> 00:34:53.800 it's like a favorite game. Now which of three is 778 00:34:54.000 --> 00:34:57.039 by far your favorite game? Which is amazing, And now 779 00:34:57.079 --> 00:34:59.239 it was like I kind of wanted something to play through, 780 00:34:59.239 --> 00:35:00.880 and I was like, well, the it is like some 781 00:35:00.960 --> 00:35:01.639 of my favorite games. 782 00:35:01.639 --> 00:35:03.440 You should play through those like and the. 783 00:35:03.400 --> 00:35:06.679 First I guess the first two are quite yanky, So 784 00:35:06.719 --> 00:35:08.800 I said, like, bang them down to easy for the 785 00:35:08.800 --> 00:35:11.440 first two just so you can get through it, because 786 00:35:11.440 --> 00:35:14.280 they do feel quite old even we were playing through 787 00:35:14.320 --> 00:35:16.840 like the Nathan Drake collection, which is like, I think 788 00:35:16.880 --> 00:35:19.840 it's blue point, isn't it? Did those so like they know, 789 00:35:22.599 --> 00:35:24.840 but it's still they still feels quite old. So she'd 790 00:35:24.840 --> 00:35:27.039 like banged down to easy. Did both of those in 791 00:35:27.079 --> 00:35:32.000 a day and then a day each she went all right, 792 00:35:32.039 --> 00:35:36.320 I was like damn, and then did I think and 793 00:35:36.480 --> 00:35:39.159 charted three and two sittings, and then the charted four 794 00:35:39.280 --> 00:35:41.599 in two sittings, which. 795 00:35:41.360 --> 00:35:42.760 Is I've never been prouder. 796 00:35:44.320 --> 00:35:46.920 It was like a week ago and now they're done. 797 00:35:47.000 --> 00:35:49.400 They're done and dusted. But it's been awesome. 798 00:35:50.159 --> 00:35:51.480 Oh did she play Lost Legacy? 799 00:35:51.639 --> 00:35:52.199 No? 800 00:35:52.199 --> 00:35:55.320 No, no, no, get on Lost Legacy fantastic. 801 00:35:55.599 --> 00:35:58.840 I've never played Lost Legacy, and I love the. 802 00:35:59.280 --> 00:36:00.400 It's a little one. 803 00:36:00.559 --> 00:36:03.519 But if I'd say it's the best one, but it's 804 00:36:03.920 --> 00:36:05.679 second best for me, maybe I. 805 00:36:06.000 --> 00:36:08.159 Think it's like it's I think it's fantastic. 806 00:36:08.159 --> 00:36:11.039 I think it's way tight as an experience, and I 807 00:36:11.079 --> 00:36:11.599 think it's good. 808 00:36:11.679 --> 00:36:12.320 I agree with that. 809 00:36:12.840 --> 00:36:14.960 It's a good game to play after you're done with 810 00:36:15.000 --> 00:36:16.840 all of them, because you're like, all right, that's enough 811 00:36:16.840 --> 00:36:18.119 of you, Drake. Relax. 812 00:36:18.599 --> 00:36:26.599 Yeah, Chill, I cannot stand Chloe and I can't, and 813 00:36:27.519 --> 00:36:29.760 I hate Chloe. 814 00:36:30.400 --> 00:36:33.079 I hate That's why I've never played like. 815 00:36:33.320 --> 00:36:40.199 She's listen, Claudia Black. It's an incredible maybe it's honestly 816 00:36:40.239 --> 00:36:44.000 because the way that the two of them chat it 817 00:36:44.199 --> 00:36:46.440 is like how women chat. It's very good. 818 00:36:46.880 --> 00:36:49.000 I see like loads of people say it's their favorite uncharted, 819 00:36:49.039 --> 00:36:51.239 which I was always thinking, like, it's not just something 820 00:36:51.280 --> 00:36:53.599 you're saying for the likes. You're just like, oh, my 821 00:36:53.599 --> 00:36:56.639 favorite chart, it's actually the one with two women, so 822 00:36:57.559 --> 00:36:58.000 shame on. 823 00:36:57.960 --> 00:37:01.480 You think it's the PSP one. 824 00:37:01.599 --> 00:37:04.360 So yeah, that was a banger though, to be fair, 825 00:37:04.559 --> 00:37:05.039 that's good. 826 00:37:06.119 --> 00:37:08.960 No, but yeah, so yeah, I've got it. 827 00:37:09.000 --> 00:37:09.639 I should play it. 828 00:37:11.239 --> 00:37:13.800 You should give it, give it a bashbe you should. 829 00:37:13.920 --> 00:37:16.199 Yeah, I mean like you're watching Clara play, maybe just 830 00:37:16.239 --> 00:37:16.840 watch her player. 831 00:37:17.320 --> 00:37:18.840 Well, she hates Chloe as much as I do. 832 00:37:18.920 --> 00:37:23.679 So well, if you've got it, if you've got give it. 833 00:37:23.960 --> 00:37:28.559 The thing is like in that that specific game, Nadine 834 00:37:28.599 --> 00:37:32.000 hates Chloe as well, so so there's that kind of dynamic. 835 00:37:32.239 --> 00:37:36.719 So you're like, you'll probably be like, but there's like 836 00:37:36.760 --> 00:37:38.719 an arc to them. So it's good. 837 00:37:39.039 --> 00:37:41.480 It's been interesting like watching someone play through those in 838 00:37:41.519 --> 00:37:46.000 such like a concentrated way because I think about like 839 00:37:46.039 --> 00:37:47.920 that they were, like I was into them when they 840 00:37:47.960 --> 00:37:52.000 first came out, but actually watching someone binge for and 841 00:37:52.239 --> 00:37:55.920 Charge is pretty wild man. But yeah, I think it's 842 00:37:55.920 --> 00:37:58.199 been quite a nice thing to play through when we 843 00:37:58.239 --> 00:38:01.159 can't actually go anywhere because they go a lot of 844 00:38:01.199 --> 00:38:02.159 places in those games. 845 00:38:02.920 --> 00:38:04.199 But yeah, I traveled the world. 846 00:38:04.079 --> 00:38:06.760 Yeah exactly, That's been quite fun to play. But I 847 00:38:06.760 --> 00:38:08.559 think like, yeah, I'm definitely I'm gonna I'm gonna go 848 00:38:08.599 --> 00:38:10.920 back and play three and four for sure, and then 849 00:38:11.119 --> 00:38:13.360 maybe go on to Lost Legacy afterwards. 850 00:38:13.559 --> 00:38:15.440 Who knows. Well, you guys have kind of convinced me. 851 00:38:15.960 --> 00:38:17.599 I treat yourself. 852 00:38:18.199 --> 00:38:20.199 It's short at least, but anyway, we should be moving 853 00:38:20.199 --> 00:38:28.119 on to topics for this week. All right, and we 854 00:38:28.199 --> 00:38:30.840 are back with topics. So the first thing here is 855 00:38:30.840 --> 00:38:33.880 Cyberpunk multiplayer leaks. We're not gonna go over that in 856 00:38:33.920 --> 00:38:38.119 this podcast because Lucy myself and John Luke talked at 857 00:38:38.199 --> 00:38:42.599 length about it on our Cyberpunk Update show thing I Guess, 858 00:38:42.639 --> 00:38:46.199 which should be live now or soon. So if you 859 00:38:46.199 --> 00:38:48.800 want to hear about the leaks what our take is 860 00:38:48.840 --> 00:38:49.480 on them, make. 861 00:38:49.400 --> 00:38:51.760 Sure to check that out. But we've got a lot 862 00:38:51.760 --> 00:38:52.320 of big news. 863 00:38:52.320 --> 00:38:54.920 This is basically like, I don't know, it feels like 864 00:38:54.960 --> 00:38:57.320 E three with all these games licensed. 865 00:38:56.920 --> 00:38:59.679 Game a clock, Actually, yeah, we don't have it on here, 866 00:38:59.719 --> 00:39:03.559 but Hogwarts Legacy or whatever the hell it's called in 867 00:39:04.159 --> 00:39:10.480 licensed game news or whatever. I did see a very 868 00:39:10.719 --> 00:39:13.960 very good take where someone said that Warner Brothers must 869 00:39:14.000 --> 00:39:17.320 be shitting themselves because what is JK. Rowling going to 870 00:39:17.400 --> 00:39:24.719 do to further damage that brand? But take what time 871 00:39:24.760 --> 00:39:28.559 you need port Key Games. I'm still so very conflicted 872 00:39:28.599 --> 00:39:30.039 about whether or not I'm going to play that one. 873 00:39:30.440 --> 00:39:34.000 I'll be all right, I don't need to in my life. 874 00:39:35.679 --> 00:39:37.440 Speaking of games, though, that probably won't be out for 875 00:39:37.440 --> 00:39:44.039 a while though. This new Indiana Jane Indiana Indiana Jones 876 00:39:44.119 --> 00:39:49.920 game announced is being published by Bethesda, developed by Machine Games, 877 00:39:50.000 --> 00:39:53.320 and the executive producer is none other than God Howard, 878 00:39:53.360 --> 00:39:56.440 who I thought would be pretty busy tell me lies tell. 879 00:40:00.239 --> 00:40:00.679 But yeah. 880 00:40:00.719 --> 00:40:02.719 They followed it up with the announcement being like, yeah, 881 00:40:02.719 --> 00:40:06.400 this game is a ways out, so be patient. But still, 882 00:40:06.440 --> 00:40:10.280 this is exciting news for me, I'm sure. 883 00:40:10.119 --> 00:40:11.280 Many other people that I am. 884 00:40:11.320 --> 00:40:14.000 As a as a fan of Todd Howard, I'm very 885 00:40:14.000 --> 00:40:16.960 excited no, but just like you know, Indiana Jones. 886 00:40:17.000 --> 00:40:20.159 I've been very into for my entire life. I love 887 00:40:20.199 --> 00:40:23.159 the Indiana Jones movies, and not the fourth one except 888 00:40:23.480 --> 00:40:25.360 learning that Andrew goldfarb friend of the show. 889 00:40:25.400 --> 00:40:28.400 Is it you can see him incredibly amazing. 890 00:40:28.480 --> 00:40:30.280 Yeah that makes me, That makes me like it a 891 00:40:30.280 --> 00:40:30.880 little bit more. 892 00:40:31.159 --> 00:40:34.360 Yeah, he looks excited to be in that movie. Yeah, 893 00:40:34.880 --> 00:40:37.159 that's gotta respect that movie. 894 00:40:37.760 --> 00:40:40.119 I'm just waning you know that. Andrew Goldfub texted Tam 895 00:40:40.159 --> 00:40:42.559 and I while we were recording this podcast to show 896 00:40:44.519 --> 00:40:46.559 pictures from twelve years ago when he was an extra 897 00:40:46.639 --> 00:40:49.320 on the set of Shell and he's dressed like a 898 00:40:49.519 --> 00:40:51.679 like a British policeman. 899 00:40:52.039 --> 00:40:52.599 A bobby. 900 00:40:53.760 --> 00:40:54.840 He's a Bobby on the beat. 901 00:40:55.159 --> 00:40:59.159 Andrew Goldfob is like in an absurd amount of movies. 902 00:40:59.320 --> 00:41:02.760 This could be live. I'm pretty sure this is right. 903 00:41:03.199 --> 00:41:07.719 But I'm pretty sure he owns that costume because or 904 00:41:07.880 --> 00:41:09.840 he told because I remember him tell me a story before. 905 00:41:09.880 --> 00:41:12.480 It was basically like if you if you decide to, like, 906 00:41:12.719 --> 00:41:15.880 you know, really invest in a Bobby on the beat 907 00:41:16.119 --> 00:41:18.880 like ninety you know, eighteen hundreds or seventeen hundreds whatever, 908 00:41:18.920 --> 00:41:22.199 it is, like costume that can go on like your 909 00:41:22.559 --> 00:41:25.639 you know, extras CV. So when someone is looking for 910 00:41:25.679 --> 00:41:27.880 an extra they're like, oh, we need someone to play 911 00:41:27.920 --> 00:41:30.639 like a Bobby in Sherlock Holmes's time. They'll look it 912 00:41:30.719 --> 00:41:33.199 up and be like, Oh, Andrew Gofub he's this tour 913 00:41:33.360 --> 00:41:37.000 and he has a Bobby on like thing, which is 914 00:41:37.039 --> 00:41:38.920 really funny. So I think he actually owns that. 915 00:41:40.320 --> 00:41:43.639 I hope he does. I hope he just has a 916 00:41:43.679 --> 00:41:47.119 closet like he opens up extra wordrobes. 917 00:41:48.519 --> 00:41:51.360 Yeah. I like, I'm super excited for this Indiana Jones 918 00:41:51.400 --> 00:41:54.239 game as well, Like I'm not not joke bounce aside. 919 00:41:54.320 --> 00:41:58.639 Like knowing that Todd Howard is involved means like it's 920 00:41:58.679 --> 00:42:01.679 they're giving it the attention. I mean machine games, amazing studio, 921 00:42:01.880 --> 00:42:06.079 last few Wolfing sign games, generally high quality. Super excited. 922 00:42:06.119 --> 00:42:09.480 We've got an article up on Games for h that 923 00:42:09.559 --> 00:42:13.199 Phil Hornshall roll which was basically like how how you 924 00:42:13.559 --> 00:42:15.840 how he thinks they could do it right? And then 925 00:42:16.199 --> 00:42:20.360 the article basically is like, don't forget this. This character 926 00:42:20.400 --> 00:42:22.920 can't shoot loads of people, he can't fight loads of people, 927 00:42:23.159 --> 00:42:26.840 and his power is he's resourceful and smart, not a 928 00:42:27.119 --> 00:42:29.800 killing machine. Yeah, So I hope they like pay attention 929 00:42:29.880 --> 00:42:30.119 to that. 930 00:42:30.440 --> 00:42:32.079 Yeah, absolutely, I think that's the thing is like I 931 00:42:32.079 --> 00:42:35.360 love Indiana Jones, but I love he's a bumbling idiot. 932 00:42:35.719 --> 00:42:37.679 Like I know, he's super smart and he's a professor, 933 00:42:37.760 --> 00:42:40.599 but everything that we like about Indiana Jones is like 934 00:42:40.760 --> 00:42:43.480 similar in a way to Unchied, where like, you know, 935 00:42:43.679 --> 00:42:46.480 Nate is falling off stuff, Indiana Jones fall lost stuff. 936 00:42:46.480 --> 00:42:49.119 But then Nate picks up a shotgun and suddenly is 937 00:42:49.159 --> 00:42:53.559 a killing machine and he's really good at killing people, 938 00:42:53.840 --> 00:42:57.039 whereas and obviously these guys do Wolfing starting, so I 939 00:42:57.079 --> 00:43:01.199 hope it's not. But then at the same time, like 940 00:43:01.360 --> 00:43:04.840 the people who who made thoughts are now making fables, 941 00:43:04.840 --> 00:43:06.639 So it's like just because you make one type of 942 00:43:06.679 --> 00:43:09.800 game doesn't mean necessarily that's the type of game you're 943 00:43:09.840 --> 00:43:11.320 always going to have to make. Like, yeah, these guys 944 00:43:11.360 --> 00:43:14.239 made Moan Size, it's not like, okay, make Wolfing Stein. 945 00:43:14.400 --> 00:43:16.039 But within the other Jones. 946 00:43:15.880 --> 00:43:18.960 Gorilla went from kill Zone to Horizons, So there you go. 947 00:43:19.159 --> 00:43:21.639 It's do I hope that I hope that they keep 948 00:43:21.679 --> 00:43:26.119 the like the the hot for history character element of 949 00:43:26.159 --> 00:43:28.840 his character where he just he just likes history and 950 00:43:28.880 --> 00:43:32.480 wants to get relics and stick them in a museum. Yeah, 951 00:43:32.480 --> 00:43:33.920 because that's what he's all about. 952 00:43:35.039 --> 00:43:37.960 Do you guys remember that canceled Indiana Jones game that 953 00:43:38.039 --> 00:43:39.519 I think was supposed to come out around the like 954 00:43:39.639 --> 00:43:43.559 beginning of the three sixties. I forget what fake. 955 00:43:45.480 --> 00:43:50.199 Something like that Talentis came out on like we or something. 956 00:43:50.199 --> 00:43:52.840 There was meant to be a different Versionstaff of Kings. 957 00:43:52.840 --> 00:43:57.400 I think it was Stuff of Kings or it was 958 00:43:57.440 --> 00:43:58.760 like three six area. 959 00:43:59.679 --> 00:44:03.960 That was like the last big budget Indiana Jones game 960 00:44:04.039 --> 00:44:05.480 I can think of, and it didn't even make it 961 00:44:05.480 --> 00:44:08.239 out the door. So I'm super curious to see what's 962 00:44:08.320 --> 00:44:09.840 changed since then. I don't know if you guys played 963 00:44:09.840 --> 00:44:13.119 any of like the old old PS two Xbox. 964 00:44:13.159 --> 00:44:15.920 Indiana Jones games, but they were all like pretty bad. 965 00:44:16.079 --> 00:44:18.639 Oh Figerabytelindes did come out, yees. Staff of Kings was 966 00:44:18.639 --> 00:44:19.519 the one that got canned. 967 00:44:19.719 --> 00:44:21.159 Did it get candled? Did it come out? I think 968 00:44:21.159 --> 00:44:24.440 it might actually came out, you know, there was there 969 00:44:24.440 --> 00:44:25.199 was a Staff. 970 00:44:24.920 --> 00:44:26.039 Of Kings I don't think so. 971 00:44:26.800 --> 00:44:29.719 And Stepha Kings came out for we PS two DS 972 00:44:29.800 --> 00:44:32.360 and PSP in two thousand and nine. 973 00:44:33.159 --> 00:44:35.119 Maybe there was like a three okay. 974 00:44:34.840 --> 00:44:36.119 But maybe there was a three sixty. 975 00:44:36.639 --> 00:44:39.519 There was a Canda version, Yeah, yeah, yeah. 976 00:44:39.559 --> 00:44:41.119 In two thousand and five, lucas I announced the new 977 00:44:41.159 --> 00:44:43.400 Indiana Jones game for an next gen consoles. Originally scheduled 978 00:44:43.440 --> 00:44:44.760 for release in two thousand and seven, the game so 979 00:44:44.960 --> 00:44:47.199 constant delays as a result of internal. 980 00:44:46.840 --> 00:44:49.760 Struggles due to severe quality issues, it was canceled in 981 00:44:49.760 --> 00:44:55.000 two thousand and nine. Hm hm, but yeah, I don't know. 982 00:44:55.119 --> 00:44:58.360 I'm excited to see what they do with it, because, like, 983 00:44:58.360 --> 00:45:00.840 like we've been saying, like Wolfenstein is game I really like, 984 00:45:00.920 --> 00:45:04.000 but not a game that not a style that would 985 00:45:04.000 --> 00:45:07.360 translate well to Indiana Jones. But like you guys said, 986 00:45:07.440 --> 00:45:12.559 like Machine Games is clearly a talented studio. I'm hoping 987 00:45:12.599 --> 00:45:14.559 they can do something really unique with it because i'd 988 00:45:14.599 --> 00:45:18.599 like to see that character shine I guess, because you 989 00:45:18.639 --> 00:45:21.559 know recently has been down on his luck. 990 00:45:21.599 --> 00:45:22.239 I guess. 991 00:45:22.679 --> 00:45:25.239 I wonder if they're gonna get I mean, if they 992 00:45:25.239 --> 00:45:27.639 would even bother getting Harrison in to voice him. 993 00:45:27.880 --> 00:45:28.920 Nah, I doubt it. 994 00:45:29.039 --> 00:45:34.880 I love Harrison Ford, but I in a seventies yeah 995 00:45:35.559 --> 00:45:38.239 you know who. I remember watching Blade Runner twenty forty 996 00:45:38.239 --> 00:45:40.480 seven and I was like, wow, he actually like acted 997 00:45:40.519 --> 00:45:40.920 this time. 998 00:45:41.000 --> 00:45:42.320 He hasn't acted in a while. 999 00:45:43.360 --> 00:45:45.679 I'm just going to say this before like if we're 1000 00:45:45.679 --> 00:45:47.840 gonna be on but because I want to manifest this 1001 00:45:48.199 --> 00:45:51.760 in twenty twenty one. So you know the conversation that 1002 00:45:51.800 --> 00:45:54.920 Todd Howard had with his leatherbound books and his big 1003 00:45:54.960 --> 00:45:58.559 bookcase from a while ago, and everyone is now going 1004 00:45:58.599 --> 00:46:00.400 back and realizing that he had the Ark at the 1005 00:46:00.400 --> 00:46:05.440 Continent behind him, someone pointing out mm designs uk Jay 1006 00:46:05.559 --> 00:46:07.719 Armstrong pointed out to me on Twitter today, then he 1007 00:46:07.760 --> 00:46:08.599 also had a copy. 1008 00:46:08.400 --> 00:46:11.320 Of slug that guys are big in the RKG community, 1009 00:46:11.639 --> 00:46:15.639 just saying if it's something good, great, he's part. If 1010 00:46:15.639 --> 00:46:19.679 it's something racist, I don't know who that guy is. 1011 00:46:20.079 --> 00:46:22.559 I remember I remember seeing this at the time, that 1012 00:46:22.880 --> 00:46:24.679 he had a copy of Lord of the Rings behind him. 1013 00:46:25.360 --> 00:46:30.039 And I'm manifesting this because Arcane Austin. There was a 1014 00:46:30.079 --> 00:46:32.679 LinkedIn thing the other day that one of their senior 1015 00:46:32.760 --> 00:46:35.440 artists is working on a fantasy game for Unreal Engine 1016 00:46:35.559 --> 00:46:39.320 and everyone is like, oh, Dishonored three, Dishonded three, And 1017 00:46:39.360 --> 00:46:45.719 I'm like, there is a one billion dollar like second 1018 00:46:45.800 --> 00:46:49.440 Age TV show being made at Amazon and the reason 1019 00:46:49.440 --> 00:46:52.239 that Amazon's making it is because Warner Brothers didn't have 1020 00:46:52.239 --> 00:47:01.239 the rights to the Silmarillion, Like, please imagine, imagine like 1021 00:47:01.320 --> 00:47:05.840 something so different for Lord of the Rings games, Like 1022 00:47:06.039 --> 00:47:09.119 I love Shadow of War Shadow Modo, and I can't 1023 00:47:09.159 --> 00:47:10.519 wait to see what they do next. 1024 00:47:10.559 --> 00:47:12.199 He's except for the Golham game. Thank you? 1025 00:47:12.760 --> 00:47:16.199 Oh yeah, Golham game. Well, I'm sure it's good. Gollum 1026 00:47:16.239 --> 00:47:18.880 has never been a character that I've particularly enjoyed, but. 1027 00:47:19.679 --> 00:47:20.320 Hard relate to. 1028 00:47:22.760 --> 00:47:27.440 I just just like, just imagine. 1029 00:47:27.480 --> 00:47:30.119 I think, like you've you've convinced me, so I'm on board. 1030 00:47:30.159 --> 00:47:30.800 I'm up for this. 1031 00:47:31.599 --> 00:47:35.320 And like Arcane doing Lord of the Rings, holy shit, 1032 00:47:35.440 --> 00:47:36.320 that would be incredible. 1033 00:47:36.679 --> 00:47:39.239 But like and if it was, if it wasn't Third 1034 00:47:39.280 --> 00:47:42.360 Age ship, if it was like super early on, imagine 1035 00:47:42.400 --> 00:47:46.880 if you were. I don't know, Like I struggle to 1036 00:47:46.880 --> 00:47:48.920 see how a Lord of the Rings game, Like what 1037 00:47:49.119 --> 00:47:51.280 who you would play as in a first person Lord 1038 00:47:51.280 --> 00:47:55.039 of the Rings game? Like, because I mean I think Arcane, 1039 00:47:55.800 --> 00:47:58.199 my head obviously first goes to dish it. I'm like, oh, yeah, 1040 00:47:58.199 --> 00:47:59.400 who would have powers? 1041 00:48:00.400 --> 00:48:01.800 And I guess it doesn't have to be like the 1042 00:48:01.840 --> 00:48:03.800 first person thing either, I don't know. 1043 00:48:04.039 --> 00:48:07.519 Yeah, like if you played a numinor. 1044 00:48:08.039 --> 00:48:10.519 Like or which one is? 1045 00:48:10.519 --> 00:48:12.199 That was that the little the little ones with the 1046 00:48:12.239 --> 00:48:15.880 big feet. 1047 00:48:14.320 --> 00:48:14.760 Don't do. 1048 00:48:18.639 --> 00:48:22.079 Second breakfast, Love it Potatoes. 1049 00:48:22.760 --> 00:48:24.360 That's all I have to say on this is that 1050 00:48:24.440 --> 00:48:26.960 if I ever become the creative director of anything, I'm 1051 00:48:26.960 --> 00:48:28.920 just going to film my bookcase with a bunch of 1052 00:48:29.159 --> 00:48:34.039 random and like just occasionally like kind of oh what, 1053 00:48:34.280 --> 00:48:34.840 I don't know. 1054 00:48:35.480 --> 00:48:37.119 I was literally thinking as I was getting ready for 1055 00:48:37.199 --> 00:48:39.400 this podcast, I was like, because I saw the Todd 1056 00:48:39.400 --> 00:48:42.000 Howard thing just before, I was like, what would be 1057 00:48:42.039 --> 00:48:45.039 really funny is to make a bunch of go back 1058 00:48:45.079 --> 00:48:48.679 through really old zoom from like last year and have like, 1059 00:48:48.840 --> 00:48:50.920 oh do you see Phil Spencer's thing and just like 1060 00:48:51.039 --> 00:48:54.239 put just like random ship in the background, like maybe 1061 00:48:54.239 --> 00:48:55.840 it means they're going to be making this neck like 1062 00:48:56.039 --> 00:48:56.920 people will pick up on. 1063 00:48:57.719 --> 00:49:00.239 Yeah. 1064 00:49:00.400 --> 00:49:02.199 I mean he also has in the background like an 1065 00:49:02.320 --> 00:49:02.639 R two. 1066 00:49:03.599 --> 00:49:06.079 And because he's a fucking nerd, of course he's got 1067 00:49:07.519 --> 00:49:10.320 I'm like all of us house. 1068 00:49:10.599 --> 00:49:12.440 Yeah, he's got a little globe. 1069 00:49:13.280 --> 00:49:14.280 I don't know if you know he's. 1070 00:49:14.159 --> 00:49:16.559 Got printers this printer game you're making. 1071 00:49:17.079 --> 00:49:19.039 I would like to officially reveal that I am making 1072 00:49:19.119 --> 00:49:25.480 an Akira game. I was actually thinking, like, who could 1073 00:49:25.960 --> 00:49:28.320 if they were not getting Harrison Ford in, who could 1074 00:49:28.320 --> 00:49:32.639 they get to do Indiana Jones and Ice No? I 1075 00:49:32.760 --> 00:49:36.519 submit absolutely not Like I like Nolan North and Tray 1076 00:49:36.599 --> 00:49:39.360 Baker are great, but like this guy who was in 1077 00:49:39.480 --> 00:49:45.039 Batman Telltale series called Anthony Ingruber, who is amazing, Like 1078 00:49:45.119 --> 00:49:50.239 he's really really good. He did, but like the guy, 1079 00:49:50.280 --> 00:49:53.480 he's a huge Harrison Ford fan and he has done 1080 00:49:53.559 --> 00:49:57.599 like so much like Indiana Jones impression stuff, Indiana Depression stuff. 1081 00:49:57.800 --> 00:49:58.519 That's how he is. 1082 00:49:58.639 --> 00:50:03.239 Nerve. He yeah, he was. If you're listening hard, If 1083 00:50:03.280 --> 00:50:06.719 you're listening hard, we know you're listening Anthony and grub 1084 00:50:07.519 --> 00:50:10.239 perfect for it, perfect for Indiana Jones. 1085 00:50:10.599 --> 00:50:13.119 His Twitter picture is literally a picture of him with 1086 00:50:13.239 --> 00:50:14.039 Harrison Ford. 1087 00:50:14.920 --> 00:50:20.360 I think I'm going to start a Twitter campaign to 1088 00:50:20.480 --> 00:50:24.679 get him because also like I I've like, we've I've 1089 00:50:24.679 --> 00:50:26.960 met him a couple of times, like really fortunate to run. 1090 00:50:27.000 --> 00:50:29.400 I ran into him at what do you call it? 1091 00:50:29.440 --> 00:50:31.119 A games com? It was like and Lucy, you were 1092 00:50:31.119 --> 00:50:33.079 there as well. You kind of showed up after and 1093 00:50:33.159 --> 00:50:35.639 the thing is like it wasn't a big moment because 1094 00:50:35.679 --> 00:50:38.039 he just looks like a random person, and like he 1095 00:50:38.199 --> 00:50:41.159 was in the Telltale game as Joker because Telltale found 1096 00:50:41.199 --> 00:50:45.480 him doing Joker impressions on YouTube, and like I remember 1097 00:50:45.559 --> 00:50:47.360 talking to him at games comp. He was like, I 1098 00:50:47.360 --> 00:50:50.400 have no idea what's going on. I I this is 1099 00:50:50.440 --> 00:50:52.639 like a new world for me, and like I love 1100 00:50:52.760 --> 00:50:54.480 Batman that kind of stuff, and I love games. But 1101 00:50:54.519 --> 00:50:56.719 like he looked like he was like a fish out 1102 00:50:56.760 --> 00:50:59.000 of all at games com. So like he seems to 1103 00:50:59.039 --> 00:51:00.800 be a nice, wholesome dude as well. 1104 00:51:01.800 --> 00:51:03.519 He used to come up on like Cooper and I 1105 00:51:03.639 --> 00:51:07.280 used to do this Star Wars podcast for IGN called 1106 00:51:07.280 --> 00:51:08.920 Rebel Bass, and he used to come up all the 1107 00:51:08.960 --> 00:51:12.079 time because obviously, like before we even knew any of 1108 00:51:12.119 --> 00:51:13.920 these shows or anything was happening, it was like, oh, 1109 00:51:14.000 --> 00:51:16.320 who could play the young Indiana Jones and stuff? And 1110 00:51:16.360 --> 00:51:20.199 he plays a young Harrison Ford in a movie called 1111 00:51:20.239 --> 00:51:25.920 The Age of Adeline because because he got literally that 1112 00:51:26.039 --> 00:51:27.960 was off the back of him doing all these random 1113 00:51:28.039 --> 00:51:31.039 YouTube video that went viral of him doing impressions of 1114 00:51:31.079 --> 00:51:31.760 Harrison Ford. 1115 00:51:33.360 --> 00:51:35.840 So that is why, yeah, get him in, get him in, 1116 00:51:36.320 --> 00:51:37.599 get him in, get him in. 1117 00:51:37.840 --> 00:51:38.239 All right. 1118 00:51:38.280 --> 00:51:40.159 Next up, we've got the new Star Wars game. Which 1119 00:51:40.239 --> 00:51:43.400 just got announced in open world Star Wars game. 1120 00:51:43.239 --> 00:51:48.800 Published by Ubisoft developed by Massive, which should be interesting. 1121 00:51:48.880 --> 00:51:51.800 I don't know, I feel less passionate about Star Wars 1122 00:51:51.840 --> 00:51:53.079 than I do about Indiana Jones. 1123 00:51:53.760 --> 00:51:57.320 So I really hope that they release a trailer or 1124 00:51:57.320 --> 00:52:00.599 a teaser for that game where it is a shot 1125 00:52:00.639 --> 00:52:02.960 for shot remake of the Division one where they close 1126 00:52:03.039 --> 00:52:06.280 the door. But it's just like a speed at all 1127 00:52:07.639 --> 00:52:09.880 Snowdrop Engine. Star Wars coming soon. 1128 00:52:10.679 --> 00:52:14.199 I'm really my favorite thing, Like this is the one 1129 00:52:14.360 --> 00:52:16.840 I'm this is the thing I'm most excited about because 1130 00:52:17.840 --> 00:52:22.440 I love everything about a Division except for the Division, 1131 00:52:22.880 --> 00:52:27.599 and like the the game is brilliant, Like the game 1132 00:52:27.679 --> 00:52:29.480 is so much fun to play, Like we did we 1133 00:52:29.840 --> 00:52:32.920 played through all the Division two in Lockdown one just 1134 00:52:33.039 --> 00:52:35.320 as like really as an excuse just to get together 1135 00:52:36.159 --> 00:52:38.400 and make some funny stuff and we live stream there. 1136 00:52:38.800 --> 00:52:42.400 But like I love the game and I love everything 1137 00:52:42.400 --> 00:52:44.840 about it, Like I kind of like like the all 1138 00:52:44.880 --> 00:52:47.639 the systems that they have a place of great, all 1139 00:52:47.679 --> 00:52:49.480 the set in and the characters and. 1140 00:52:49.480 --> 00:52:52.000 Stuff is just so crap. 1141 00:52:52.719 --> 00:52:56.000 It's so crap, and I don't care about any of it. 1142 00:52:56.039 --> 00:52:58.079 And I feel like I know, you know, I just 1143 00:52:58.599 --> 00:53:01.000 I couldn't tell you the story. I don't care about 1144 00:53:01.000 --> 00:53:04.480 what Black Friday was in the Division. I don't know 1145 00:53:04.559 --> 00:53:07.320 anything about the virus or anything. But the game feels 1146 00:53:07.360 --> 00:53:11.159 fucking good to play, and I feel like, Okay, if 1147 00:53:11.199 --> 00:53:12.800 you go right, you guys, you don't go worry about 1148 00:53:12.800 --> 00:53:14.599 it because it's just going to be Star Wars, right, 1149 00:53:15.599 --> 00:53:18.039 but make it like a Division, but it's Star Wars. 1150 00:53:18.079 --> 00:53:18.440 Do that. 1151 00:53:19.480 --> 00:53:20.679 I think I'm excited about that. 1152 00:53:20.960 --> 00:53:23.320 We had We had like two we had like two 1153 00:53:23.320 --> 00:53:26.360 hot gaming sessions where Cardy Lucy and I tried to 1154 00:53:26.360 --> 00:53:28.920 play the Division and we like bounced off so on. 1155 00:53:30.440 --> 00:53:33.920 We tried Destiny to tried the Division. 1156 00:53:33.480 --> 00:53:36.039 The original Division, and a lot of two. But like in. 1157 00:53:37.639 --> 00:53:39.800 I was just like, all, it's not do do you 1158 00:53:39.800 --> 00:53:42.400 guys think that this Star Wars game would be in 1159 00:53:42.440 --> 00:53:44.559 a similar style and Division like a loot shoot or 1160 00:53:44.559 --> 00:53:45.519 do you think it would be. 1161 00:53:45.519 --> 00:53:50.039 Well, yeah, let's not forget that are also making an 1162 00:53:50.079 --> 00:53:53.559 Avatar game. Yeah, so and the Division three I think 1163 00:53:54.440 --> 00:53:55.199 could be anything. 1164 00:53:55.480 --> 00:53:58.440 No, No, they are a massive studio. I guess I'm 1165 00:53:58.480 --> 00:54:00.559 sorry they aren't making Division three. I was thinking about 1166 00:54:00.840 --> 00:54:03.920 Machine Games making Wolfenstein three at the same time, as 1167 00:54:05.360 --> 00:54:08.280 Indiana Jones. But yeah, I think it's going to be 1168 00:54:08.280 --> 00:54:11.400 because like maybe I'm reading too much into it, but 1169 00:54:11.519 --> 00:54:15.039 you know, the statement was this is part of a 1170 00:54:15.239 --> 00:54:19.320 long term agreement with or like a partnership with Lucas 1171 00:54:19.320 --> 00:54:22.880 Games Games. So I imagine that there is going to 1172 00:54:22.920 --> 00:54:26.639 be some element of coming back for it, and they've 1173 00:54:26.639 --> 00:54:30.119 got a taste for it from Battlefront. I bet you 1174 00:54:30.159 --> 00:54:32.760 somewhere that like Disney and Lucas execs are like, yeah, 1175 00:54:32.760 --> 00:54:35.679 we like it when they keep giving us money, except 1176 00:54:35.679 --> 00:54:39.119 can you make sure that this time you don't biffit out? 1177 00:54:40.360 --> 00:54:44.360 Well, Ea tweeted like tick, we love Star Wars. Tick 1178 00:54:44.440 --> 00:54:47.199 we look forward to continuing our partnership with Lucasfilm Games. 1179 00:54:47.360 --> 00:54:49.719 Tick was making more Star Wars games and Tick BD 1180 00:54:49.840 --> 00:54:54.199 one is still the curest I feel like pure ship. 1181 00:55:00.079 --> 00:55:01.159 I just googled that. 1182 00:55:01.199 --> 00:55:03.719 I was just looking at like, oh, I'll just look 1183 00:55:03.719 --> 00:55:06.079 at some stuff about Ubisoft game just in case more 1184 00:55:06.239 --> 00:55:08.000 information that I didn't know as being a thing. And 1185 00:55:08.039 --> 00:55:10.360 I saw a headline that I was like, oh for Fox, 1186 00:55:10.400 --> 00:55:12.880 say shut up. I wonder what games website that is. 1187 00:55:13.000 --> 00:55:15.800 It's not GameSpot, it's just Star Wars dot com. It 1188 00:55:15.920 --> 00:55:20.960 was the headlines Lucasfilm Games hits light speed towards the Future, 1189 00:55:21.000 --> 00:55:23.079 and in my head I was like, shut the funk up, 1190 00:55:23.119 --> 00:55:23.559 what the hell? 1191 00:55:24.440 --> 00:55:26.000 And I was like, oh no, it's Star Wars dot com. 1192 00:55:26.000 --> 00:55:26.280 All right. 1193 00:55:26.320 --> 00:55:27.840 I mean it doesn't make it. It's strong with. 1194 00:55:30.039 --> 00:55:32.320 It doesn't make it any better, but still you know 1195 00:55:32.360 --> 00:55:36.119 they but yeah, like I. 1196 00:55:36.119 --> 00:55:38.840 Kind of machine games has the high ground. 1197 00:55:42.840 --> 00:55:43.599 Christ alive? 1198 00:55:45.840 --> 00:55:48.880 All right, Well, let's let's move on to listener questions. 1199 00:55:56.159 --> 00:55:57.679 All right, we're back with listener questions. 1200 00:55:57.679 --> 00:55:59.519 Remember, if you've got any questions for us, you can 1201 00:55:59.599 --> 00:56:02.880 email us at after Dark Podcast at GameSpot dot com. 1202 00:56:02.920 --> 00:56:05.559 I've been getting a lot of emails lately, mostly because 1203 00:56:05.559 --> 00:56:07.199 I think a lot of those questions go right to 1204 00:56:07.239 --> 00:56:09.400 our discord. So if you want to join our discord, 1205 00:56:09.880 --> 00:56:12.320 feel free to DM myself and I will get you 1206 00:56:12.360 --> 00:56:16.599 in there as soon as I can. But with that said, Lucy, 1207 00:56:16.639 --> 00:56:17.719 do you want to read the first question? 1208 00:56:17.800 --> 00:56:18.000 Here? 1209 00:56:18.159 --> 00:56:18.199 Is? 1210 00:56:18.320 --> 00:56:19.199 This is a long one. 1211 00:56:19.800 --> 00:56:23.519 Okay, this is also like this Yeah, this use name 1212 00:56:23.679 --> 00:56:26.760 is like I love it, but it's also peak like 1213 00:56:27.719 --> 00:56:31.679 three sixty lait speak sixty game attack. 1214 00:56:32.159 --> 00:56:34.440 I actually cut out part of it because part of 1215 00:56:34.440 --> 00:56:38.760 the username because it was like switch id, Xbox Live account, PSN. 1216 00:56:40.000 --> 00:56:40.480 Is it so? 1217 00:56:40.840 --> 00:56:45.639 I guess it's rocket Scientist, but like, oh scientist, that's 1218 00:56:45.639 --> 00:56:46.119 what it is. 1219 00:56:46.360 --> 00:56:47.239 I know what it was. 1220 00:56:47.960 --> 00:56:51.519 But like with fives and threes and zeros, which, to 1221 00:56:51.599 --> 00:56:54.239 be fair, must be an absolute pain in the ass 1222 00:56:54.320 --> 00:56:57.239 to type when you're typing on your on your console. 1223 00:56:57.320 --> 00:57:00.360 But I do love the fact that it works so well. 1224 00:57:01.199 --> 00:57:03.519 Not a lot of my I r L friends have consoles, 1225 00:57:03.559 --> 00:57:06.360 but they do have phones, so we play almost every 1226 00:57:06.400 --> 00:57:09.639 day Call of Duty Mobile Battle Royal and it's fun. 1227 00:57:10.280 --> 00:57:12.119 I actually like it so much more than war Zone 1228 00:57:12.159 --> 00:57:15.000 and PUBG. So my question is do you feel mobile 1229 00:57:15.039 --> 00:57:18.719 gaming non console are you not switched doesn't get reported 1230 00:57:18.719 --> 00:57:20.880 on in the mass media as much as console gaming? 1231 00:57:21.280 --> 00:57:23.679 Why do you think that is? Shouldn't companies focus on 1232 00:57:23.719 --> 00:57:26.360 it more due to the huge install base that's out 1233 00:57:26.360 --> 00:57:31.000 there that is untapped potential? Also, do you I'm sorry, 1234 00:57:31.000 --> 00:57:34.159 I'm hitting puberty. Also do you think x cloud and 1235 00:57:34.199 --> 00:57:36.440 Stadia address this need. 1236 00:57:37.760 --> 00:57:40.239 To more? You might have a better answer for this. 1237 00:57:40.320 --> 00:57:41.360 Since you've been running news. 1238 00:57:41.480 --> 00:57:45.559 You really dropped The tricky thing is good boy. 1239 00:57:45.840 --> 00:57:49.079 The tricky thing is there's various factors that plays into 1240 00:57:50.000 --> 00:57:55.000 mainstream coverage of a game mobile game, specifically for a 1241 00:57:55.079 --> 00:58:01.039 site like us, we have a heritage history and our 1242 00:58:01.079 --> 00:58:05.079 foundation is in console PC gamings, the stuff that you 1243 00:58:05.119 --> 00:58:09.199 would traditionally lump under hardcore, which is a you know, 1244 00:58:10.320 --> 00:58:12.639 a shitty term that I don't believe in, but like 1245 00:58:12.679 --> 00:58:16.159 it's how people understand it. So a lot of our 1246 00:58:16.519 --> 00:58:18.920 kind of approach and our the way we've come up 1247 00:58:18.960 --> 00:58:22.199 and the way we're structured to kind of cover is 1248 00:58:22.199 --> 00:58:24.239 focused around that stuff, and a lot of our interests 1249 00:58:24.320 --> 00:58:26.079 around that stuff as well. That's not to say we 1250 00:58:26.079 --> 00:58:28.719 don't touch mobile games. We do touch mobile games, like 1251 00:58:28.760 --> 00:58:31.920 we either indie games that we've tried many times to 1252 00:58:31.960 --> 00:58:35.119 do like indie games coverage on mobile and that kind 1253 00:58:35.119 --> 00:58:37.360 of stuff. The problem is it doesn't really land, it 1254 00:58:37.360 --> 00:58:40.800 doesn't really stick the audience, our audience isn't really super 1255 00:58:40.800 --> 00:58:45.559 into it, and not just our audience, the audience at 1256 00:58:45.679 --> 00:58:49.440 large gaming audience generally it's harder to get traction with them. 1257 00:58:49.880 --> 00:58:52.400 And this might be oversimplifying, and if I'm wrong in this, 1258 00:58:52.559 --> 00:58:56.039 it's you know, I apologize, but like, for the most part, 1259 00:58:56.079 --> 00:58:59.360 people who play mobile games aren't usually the people who 1260 00:58:59.360 --> 00:59:02.199 are looking for up to date news and coverage on 1261 00:59:02.320 --> 00:59:05.280 mobile games. They just play the games, and then I'm 1262 00:59:05.280 --> 00:59:09.039 the same way, where like I don't think about what's 1263 00:59:09.199 --> 00:59:12.800 what's you know, what's coming up next for Peggle or 1264 00:59:12.840 --> 00:59:15.239 what's coming up next I think, I mean, I think 1265 00:59:19.280 --> 00:59:20.840 different platforms over the last two weeks. 1266 00:59:21.280 --> 00:59:23.199 It's like maybe they're not like as engrossed in like 1267 00:59:23.280 --> 00:59:25.559 games culture, Like video games on their phone is like 1268 00:59:25.559 --> 00:59:26.239 a means to an end. 1269 00:59:26.280 --> 00:59:27.360 It's just like a little bit of fun. 1270 00:59:27.440 --> 00:59:31.039 So maybe they are exactly ingrained in their culture as 1271 00:59:31.119 --> 00:59:32.599 like oh, I'm going to look for the you know, 1272 00:59:32.639 --> 00:59:34.920 a review of the next big mobile game coming out, 1273 00:59:34.920 --> 00:59:36.800 and maybe. 1274 00:59:36.599 --> 00:59:39.800 Exactly and yeah, and like the way they consume games 1275 00:59:39.840 --> 00:59:43.920 is differently like things mobile games exist in in like 1276 00:59:44.679 --> 00:59:47.079 in the background for them, so things like even things 1277 00:59:47.159 --> 00:59:49.159 like oh, yeah, you know, like yeah said, is like 1278 00:59:49.199 --> 00:59:51.880 getting excited about the next mobile game doesn't really matter 1279 00:59:52.199 --> 00:59:56.239 like for for like patches and updates and that kind 1280 00:59:56.280 --> 00:59:58.079 of stuff because of the way more moile phones work. 1281 00:59:58.159 --> 01:00:00.079 Usually it's just all done in the background, so you 1282 01:00:00.079 --> 01:00:01.960 don't really know what's going on until you open it 1283 01:00:01.960 --> 01:00:04.440 and you're like, oh, it's updated into something else. Games 1284 01:00:04.519 --> 01:00:07.039 like Battle Royal, games like Call of Duty Mobile, Fortnite. 1285 01:00:07.079 --> 01:00:09.440 They are kind of like in a middle ground, but 1286 01:00:10.320 --> 01:00:14.000 when you're engaged with those games, you usually know everything 1287 01:00:14.039 --> 01:00:17.760 that's happening at any moment, Like no one's being surprised 1288 01:00:17.800 --> 01:00:19.880 by a Fortnite update. No one's being surprised by a 1289 01:00:19.880 --> 01:00:22.679 Call of Duty Mobile update. Whether that's because their friends 1290 01:00:22.679 --> 01:00:24.840 are talking about it, whether that's because they have niche 1291 01:00:24.880 --> 01:00:28.360 communities in like Reddit or discord, or whether it's because 1292 01:00:28.840 --> 01:00:31.840 and more and more these days, games are better about this. 1293 01:00:31.960 --> 01:00:34.639 They surface that stuff in the game. Like when you're 1294 01:00:34.639 --> 01:00:36.320 playing a game, it will tell you there's a patch 1295 01:00:36.360 --> 01:00:38.239 coming out or there's no event happening, and it's not 1296 01:00:38.280 --> 01:00:40.880 always just like a piece of text. It's like, oh no, 1297 01:00:41.320 --> 01:00:44.719 a nuclear silo has opened in Call of Duty, and 1298 01:00:44.800 --> 01:00:46.960 that's when you know it's going to happen. Oh look, 1299 01:00:47.000 --> 01:00:50.199 Travis Scott is one million feet in Fortnite, and also 1300 01:00:50.280 --> 01:00:52.880 Galactus is here and the Avengers have shown up. But 1301 01:00:53.000 --> 01:00:56.559 that's how you know. So I think that it's it's 1302 01:00:56.599 --> 01:00:59.599 because of those things a lot, along with a bunch 1303 01:00:59.599 --> 01:01:03.440 of other things. But we do try and focus on 1304 01:01:03.480 --> 01:01:07.599 mobile games. I mean, you know, we had a Song 1305 01:01:07.639 --> 01:01:09.599 of Bloom for example, is one that I played last 1306 01:01:09.639 --> 01:01:12.639 year and I evangelized, and I know we included it 1307 01:01:12.679 --> 01:01:14.440 in one of our Game of the year right ups. 1308 01:01:14.440 --> 01:01:16.519 I think Chris Peira wrote about it, which is a 1309 01:01:16.519 --> 01:01:19.880 mobile game. You know. Gensian Impact is a game that 1310 01:01:19.920 --> 01:01:22.719 we covered, but not from a mobile specific perspective. But 1311 01:01:22.760 --> 01:01:24.519 we always try to tell people like, hey, this is 1312 01:01:24.519 --> 01:01:28.239 also on mobile and it's really good against an Impact. 1313 01:01:28.400 --> 01:01:32.800 Rory Power's Game of the Year for our Cage. He's 1314 01:01:32.800 --> 01:01:36.480 a shill for that game, so loves it. But like 1315 01:01:36.519 --> 01:01:38.719 there are we do cover mobile games, we just don't 1316 01:01:39.119 --> 01:01:42.159 make it a massive focus because our audience isn't super 1317 01:01:42.280 --> 01:01:45.159 up for it and it's hard to invest resources into 1318 01:01:45.199 --> 01:01:48.079 it knowing that it's going to get Also, there's one 1319 01:01:48.159 --> 01:01:53.440 trillion mobile games. Of them are absolutely hot dog shit, 1320 01:01:53.639 --> 01:01:58.400 refried beans bollocks, Like the App Store is a and 1321 01:01:58.559 --> 01:02:01.480 the Google play Store is a nightmare hellscape. 1322 01:02:01.000 --> 01:02:03.960 Of games unless unless you get Apple Arcade, which is 1323 01:02:04.039 --> 01:02:06.119 like the quality filter. 1324 01:02:06.199 --> 01:02:08.639 I suppose, yeah, but it's also yeah, it's five bucks 1325 01:02:08.639 --> 01:02:11.360 and months, and like games like you know, they have 1326 01:02:11.480 --> 01:02:13.920 that barrier now, like you can't tell tell someone, oh, 1327 01:02:13.960 --> 01:02:15.559 you can check this game. That's what The thing I 1328 01:02:15.559 --> 01:02:18.239 love about Apple Arcade is it curates games, curates games. 1329 01:02:18.320 --> 01:02:19.880 The thing I hate about it is I have to 1330 01:02:20.000 --> 01:02:22.079 subscribe to it, right if I just want that one game? 1331 01:02:22.320 --> 01:02:24.239 Yeah, Yeah, there's like. 1332 01:02:24.239 --> 01:02:28.079 One Apple Arcade game called Patent, which I love, and 1333 01:02:28.119 --> 01:02:29.880 I had Apple Arcade for a few months, and then 1334 01:02:29.880 --> 01:02:31.639 I realized that Patent was the only game I played 1335 01:02:31.679 --> 01:02:35.840 on it. Yeah, and now a fun thing we discovered 1336 01:02:35.840 --> 01:02:38.039 the other day is that I have Apple TV for 1337 01:02:38.079 --> 01:02:39.039 a year because I bought fun. 1338 01:02:39.159 --> 01:02:41.119 Yeah. 1339 01:02:39.440 --> 01:02:46.320 You can share your subscriptions with a family. So now 1340 01:02:46.639 --> 01:02:48.800 all like the girls that I get together with once 1341 01:02:48.840 --> 01:02:51.639 a week to watch stuff are all in my family, 1342 01:02:52.119 --> 01:02:54.119 and one of them I have Apple Fitness as well, 1343 01:02:54.199 --> 01:02:57.079 so they all get access to that. And then Callie's 1344 01:02:57.119 --> 01:02:58.880 in there and she has access to Apple Arcade, so 1345 01:02:58.920 --> 01:03:00.920 we all get that. So literally, the only thing I've 1346 01:03:00.920 --> 01:03:01.920 downloaded is Patent. 1347 01:03:02.320 --> 01:03:03.559 It looks lovely just looking at it. 1348 01:03:04.400 --> 01:03:05.000 It's really good. 1349 01:03:05.039 --> 01:03:05.519 It's lovely. 1350 01:03:05.639 --> 01:03:08.360 I did the same thing for Patent and Grindstone. Those 1351 01:03:08.360 --> 01:03:10.559 were the only two things I played. I did not care. 1352 01:03:10.599 --> 01:03:12.320 I downloaded all the games and I'll be like, I'll 1353 01:03:12.320 --> 01:03:14.159 try these, but I just did it because it I 1354 01:03:14.239 --> 01:03:16.880 was Grindstones on Switch and now Grindstounds. I canceled it 1355 01:03:16.880 --> 01:03:19.000 once I'd finished Pattern and I was done with Pan, 1356 01:03:19.480 --> 01:03:22.440 and then like was I canceled it? When they announced 1357 01:03:22.480 --> 01:03:24.960 Grindstone for Switch, I was like, thank God, no reason 1358 01:03:24.960 --> 01:03:27.360 to go back. Yeah, I mean I was gonna say. 1359 01:03:27.360 --> 01:03:30.719 I feel like the press cycle for a lot of 1360 01:03:30.800 --> 01:03:33.400 mobile games too, is very different from mainstream games. And 1361 01:03:33.400 --> 01:03:35.400 when you think about it, a lot of our coverage 1362 01:03:35.480 --> 01:03:39.360 comes from, i mean, covering games that are aren't out 1363 01:03:39.440 --> 01:03:41.119 yet that will be out soon. And I feel like 1364 01:03:41.199 --> 01:03:44.199 that kind of coverage just lands differently on mobile games 1365 01:03:44.199 --> 01:03:46.159 that some casessed to. 1366 01:03:46.119 --> 01:03:49.360 Be more in line with like traditional coverage, Like certainly 1367 01:03:49.400 --> 01:03:54.679 twenty twelve twenty thirteen, when you had like Chilingo, which 1368 01:03:54.760 --> 01:04:00.559 was EA's mobile game label, you had PopCap kind of 1369 01:04:01.239 --> 01:04:03.960 even even Square Next when they were doing like Larcraft 1370 01:04:04.119 --> 01:04:07.159 Go and hit Man Go, like they would treat those. 1371 01:04:07.079 --> 01:04:08.760 As games. 1372 01:04:09.760 --> 01:04:12.840 Like yeah, games, but yeah, and you would you would 1373 01:04:12.880 --> 01:04:14.599 have the events and do the hands on and stuff. 1374 01:04:15.760 --> 01:04:19.159 But then at the same time they realized that if 1375 01:04:19.159 --> 01:04:21.760 you just make those single player games and their micro transactions, 1376 01:04:21.840 --> 01:04:24.679 you aren't going to get a lot of money back. 1377 01:04:24.800 --> 01:04:27.320 And then now that's why we have Peggle Blast. 1378 01:04:27.960 --> 01:04:32.119 Having said that, like having said that Entry Impact is 1379 01:04:32.159 --> 01:04:35.480 good on mobile. Bloodstained recently came out on mobile and 1380 01:04:35.519 --> 01:04:39.599 it's decent. If you wanted chess, learning Chess as Blessing 1381 01:04:39.760 --> 01:04:42.960 and Abby from Ja one would say Doctor Wolf is 1382 01:04:43.000 --> 01:04:47.440 a good game, and if Found is amazing on mobile 1383 01:04:47.480 --> 01:04:49.960 as well. So those are a few games and mobile 1384 01:04:50.000 --> 01:04:50.760 that will be checking out. 1385 01:04:51.400 --> 01:04:55.840 What do you think about x cloud and Stadia Because 1386 01:04:55.840 --> 01:04:58.280 I'm gonna I'm gonna say no, because I was talking. 1387 01:04:58.320 --> 01:05:01.039 I reconnected with a friend of mine from school the 1388 01:05:01.119 --> 01:05:01.719 other day. 1389 01:05:02.519 --> 01:05:05.559 She's big into Stadia, big Stadia influence. 1390 01:05:07.039 --> 01:05:10.000 He's a doctor now, and we were talking about like 1391 01:05:10.920 --> 01:05:12.880 I was saying that I'm building a PC and I'm 1392 01:05:12.880 --> 01:05:14.599 playing cyberpunk and all this stuff, and he's like, oh, 1393 01:05:14.639 --> 01:05:17.039 I want to play cyberpunk, but I don't have anything 1394 01:05:17.039 --> 01:05:18.800 to play on. And I know she had to explain 1395 01:05:18.840 --> 01:05:21.400 to him what Stadia was and he was like, he's 1396 01:05:21.440 --> 01:05:25.280 a medical laptop and he was like, oh, but my 1397 01:05:25.360 --> 01:05:27.599 laptop doesn't have a graphics card. I was like, no, no, 1398 01:05:27.599 --> 01:05:29.880 you don't need one. You just need a screen. 1399 01:05:30.159 --> 01:05:33.280 And he was like no, Like hey, doc, try and 1400 01:05:33.360 --> 01:05:34.239 follow this will you. 1401 01:05:37.280 --> 01:05:39.360 I also think like the thing with x Cloud two 1402 01:05:39.599 --> 01:05:43.679 is that like it's it's a cool idea, but I 1403 01:05:43.679 --> 01:05:46.159 feel like people don't bring their phone around in a 1404 01:05:46.199 --> 01:05:46.960 controller to. 1405 01:05:46.960 --> 01:05:48.719 Play Xbox games like that. 1406 01:05:48.760 --> 01:05:51.559 Like when people play at least this is just my understanding, 1407 01:05:51.559 --> 01:05:53.480 but when people play mobile games, they want just like 1408 01:05:53.639 --> 01:05:56.320 a quick, easy game they can tap on. 1409 01:05:56.639 --> 01:05:58.960 Like I like, I want to try it out. 1410 01:05:59.000 --> 01:06:01.559 I'm super curious to see it's like playing these games 1411 01:06:01.559 --> 01:06:03.360 on my phone. But like, I'm not going to bring 1412 01:06:03.360 --> 01:06:05.760 a controller around. I will say it with me everywhere 1413 01:06:05.800 --> 01:06:05.960 I go. 1414 01:06:06.159 --> 01:06:08.360 I was I was sitting here the other day and 1415 01:06:08.400 --> 01:06:11.119 I was like, just you know, when you do things 1416 01:06:11.199 --> 01:06:13.360 just to do them because you just want you just 1417 01:06:13.440 --> 01:06:13.880 need to. 1418 01:06:13.920 --> 01:06:14.719 Just want to feel something. 1419 01:06:14.840 --> 01:06:16.199 Yeah, you just want to feel something. You just want 1420 01:06:16.199 --> 01:06:18.719 to think about something else. I was sitting literally there, 1421 01:06:19.119 --> 01:06:22.760 yeah there and if my TV is there, and I 1422 01:06:22.800 --> 01:06:26.280 was playing Yakaza on Xbox and then I was like, oh, 1423 01:06:26.320 --> 01:06:29.119 I can I can somehow remote play this. Let's see 1424 01:06:29.159 --> 01:06:32.960 what happens using the smart the Xbox app. I was like, oh, 1425 01:06:33.000 --> 01:06:35.360 it says remote player, I wonder what happens, And like 1426 01:06:35.480 --> 01:06:39.960 within a minute I had connected Xbox controllers the modern 1427 01:06:39.960 --> 01:06:42.199 ones anyway, just connect to your iPhone, Like I had 1428 01:06:42.199 --> 01:06:44.840 no idea that was possible. They just connect. So like 1429 01:06:44.880 --> 01:06:48.119 I was playing Yakaza on my iPhone with an Xbox 1430 01:06:48.159 --> 01:06:51.280 controller and it worked flawlessly, and I was like, that 1431 01:06:51.440 --> 01:06:53.719 is wild, but like that's pretty cool. I was sitting 1432 01:06:53.760 --> 01:06:54.719 in front of my console. 1433 01:06:55.960 --> 01:06:58.920 I think, like with anything that I play, I want 1434 01:06:58.920 --> 01:07:02.760 to play a game that's being designed for that platform specifically, 1435 01:07:02.880 --> 01:07:05.960 and because of their can take advantage of that platform 1436 01:07:06.039 --> 01:07:09.719 during it means like Florence an amazing mobile game that 1437 01:07:09.880 --> 01:07:12.000 was designed to be played on a phone. So when 1438 01:07:12.039 --> 01:07:13.800 I played it on my phone, I was like, oh, 1439 01:07:13.960 --> 01:07:17.280 this has been designed from the beginning with the idea 1440 01:07:17.360 --> 01:07:19.519 that people will be playing this on their phone somewhere. 1441 01:07:19.719 --> 01:07:22.239 And because of that, I mean, I reckon. I'd probably 1442 01:07:22.239 --> 01:07:24.400 put that in my top fifty games. It's such a 1443 01:07:24.400 --> 01:07:27.639 good game, an amazing experience, Whereas like, as you say, 1444 01:07:27.679 --> 01:07:30.800 playing Yakuza on the x Cloud, thing that has not 1445 01:07:30.840 --> 01:07:32.599 been designed to play be played on that. It's been 1446 01:07:32.639 --> 01:07:35.679 designed to be played on a big TV, like and yeah, 1447 01:07:36.159 --> 01:07:38.800 you can play it on that, and you can. Kind 1448 01:07:38.840 --> 01:07:41.400 of it's a decent experience. It's not the way that 1449 01:07:41.440 --> 01:07:43.199 it was designed to be played, though, and I think, 1450 01:07:43.280 --> 01:07:47.000 like with anything like that, even though I'm like, yeah, 1451 01:07:47.039 --> 01:07:48.400 it would be a means to an end. If I 1452 01:07:48.440 --> 01:07:51.199 was stuck in a hotel and I wanted to play something, yes, 1453 01:07:51.280 --> 01:07:53.239 it would make sense to be able to do it then, but. 1454 01:07:54.559 --> 01:07:56.840 Yeah, Like I mean, I got a tablet over Christmas 1455 01:07:56.880 --> 01:07:59.519 and I haven't messed around with it yet, but I'm 1456 01:07:59.599 --> 01:08:02.400 already thinking that, like, hey, next time I'm going to 1457 01:08:02.440 --> 01:08:04.400 be traveling, I don't have to take a console with me. 1458 01:08:04.920 --> 01:08:07.519 I'm going to see if I can. Just like the 1459 01:08:07.519 --> 01:08:09.880 thing is is like I wouldn't play obviously Overwatch or 1460 01:08:09.920 --> 01:08:14.039 anything that requires fast reaction. Now, I think something like 1461 01:08:14.039 --> 01:08:18.119 a Yakaza or Persona would be great for those for 1462 01:08:18.319 --> 01:08:22.800 like traveling next cloud well well no PS remote playing 1463 01:08:22.880 --> 01:08:26.359 as well, which I haven't tried out, so I'm intrigued. 1464 01:08:26.399 --> 01:08:29.279 So I'm gonna mess around with that probably after this. Actually, no, 1465 01:08:29.399 --> 01:08:31.800 I would be working. I will definitely not be messing. 1466 01:08:31.520 --> 01:08:33.880 Around just like the middle of the day. Well time 1467 01:08:33.960 --> 01:08:36.039 is now at lunchtime for you guys. 1468 01:08:35.840 --> 01:08:37.640 And normally this is the last thing we do on 1469 01:08:37.640 --> 01:08:42.000 a Wednesday. Weird, but anyway, we should move on. Next 1470 01:08:42.039 --> 01:08:45.319 one is if After Dark had an official mascot, who 1471 01:08:45.439 --> 01:08:46.199 or what would it be? 1472 01:08:46.239 --> 01:08:47.119 This is from Errol. 1473 01:08:47.640 --> 01:08:51.680 Oh, can it be the bun chan from Yakuza? 1474 01:08:52.840 --> 01:08:53.000 Sure? 1475 01:08:53.520 --> 01:08:57.520 The little bun Chan that it's definitely in Yakuza Zero 1476 01:08:58.039 --> 01:09:00.520 because I spent maybe half an hour. There's a little 1477 01:09:00.560 --> 01:09:03.760 side quest where a little girl asks you to get 1478 01:09:03.800 --> 01:09:09.680 something out of a crane machine and I had dreams 1479 01:09:09.720 --> 01:09:10.840 about that bunch. 1480 01:09:10.640 --> 01:09:11.840 And I'm looking at it right. 1481 01:09:13.159 --> 01:09:14.880 Well, I think it's because I got the wrong one, 1482 01:09:14.880 --> 01:09:17.119 because she explicitly asks for the pink one. 1483 01:09:20.800 --> 01:09:23.079 That's just it's just a really fat bird with a 1484 01:09:23.079 --> 01:09:30.520 hat one. Yeah, yeah, have you seen have you seen 1485 01:09:30.560 --> 01:09:33.560 the image of Marge Simpson holding one? And it says 1486 01:09:33.560 --> 01:09:34.279 I think they're neat. 1487 01:09:34.359 --> 01:09:38.600 Oh yeah, that's like one of the first things. 1488 01:09:38.840 --> 01:09:44.680 All right, we've settled that. Yeah. 1489 01:09:44.760 --> 01:09:47.800 The last question here is from Jay Higgins. I posted 1490 01:09:47.800 --> 01:09:50.399 in the discord that you'd be joining us GAVs, and 1491 01:09:50.680 --> 01:09:52.720 this was this was the question. We got best Welsh 1492 01:09:52.840 --> 01:09:53.760 video game character. 1493 01:09:54.439 --> 01:09:58.000 There's not many. This was ones Man Like. 1494 01:09:58.279 --> 01:10:02.000 There's the first thing that ca aimed mind was the 1495 01:10:02.000 --> 01:10:04.399 Welsh character in Red Dead Too, whose name I don't remember, 1496 01:10:04.439 --> 01:10:07.239 but they referred to him as a red al. 1497 01:10:07.720 --> 01:10:11.600 I think it's called like Alwyn Price or something like that. Yeah, 1498 01:10:11.600 --> 01:10:13.800 but I'm pretty sure he is a wrong and it's 1499 01:10:13.840 --> 01:10:14.760 all I could think, Like. 1500 01:10:14.720 --> 01:10:17.279 He tries to rob you and I think, duff you up. 1501 01:10:17.479 --> 01:10:19.880 Well he knock you out or something. It's not great. 1502 01:10:19.920 --> 01:10:24.039 It's not a great representation. I'll be honest. I think, yeah, 1503 01:10:24.159 --> 01:10:26.079 him drippy. 1504 01:10:26.039 --> 01:10:30.199 I guess from Nino Cooney is a big one, because yeah, good, 1505 01:10:31.039 --> 01:10:34.880 that was excellent because it wasn't like it's not set 1506 01:10:34.920 --> 01:10:37.760 in Wales, like it's nothing like that. They've just gone 1507 01:10:37.800 --> 01:10:40.319 the localization team have just gone, oh, who should we 1508 01:10:40.359 --> 01:10:42.680 have a voiceless person? Oh, we're going to bring in 1509 01:10:42.880 --> 01:10:45.399 like he's a very well known Welsh actor. They brought 1510 01:10:45.399 --> 01:10:48.640 in this guy. But then also they obviously the localization 1511 01:10:48.680 --> 01:10:51.640 team worked with him on you know, putting little Welsh 1512 01:10:51.640 --> 01:10:53.560 inflections and stuff like that into it. Like he says 1513 01:10:53.600 --> 01:10:55.840 like butt and munn and stuff like that, which is 1514 01:10:55.920 --> 01:10:59.359 like weird little dialect things, which. 1515 01:10:59.159 --> 01:11:02.119 Is very very cool. So I think he's gonna be 1516 01:11:02.159 --> 01:11:02.319 in it. 1517 01:11:03.600 --> 01:11:06.640 I don't know other than that, Like I just played 1518 01:11:06.680 --> 01:11:09.920 through Made of Scare, which is a horror game all 1519 01:11:09.960 --> 01:11:13.359 set in Wales that everybody should play. I've reckoned it's 1520 01:11:13.399 --> 01:11:17.119 so cheap and it's a lovely little like Outlast. If 1521 01:11:17.159 --> 01:11:19.439 you'd kind of like Outlast, you will like Made of 1522 01:11:19.479 --> 01:11:22.239 Scare because Outlasts, I feel like is good for the 1523 01:11:22.279 --> 01:11:24.000 people who like it, but I feel like it's only 1524 01:11:24.079 --> 01:11:27.000 like a tiny centimeter above those like five Night of 1525 01:11:27.000 --> 01:11:30.239 Freddie games, whereas Made of Scare is actually quite a 1526 01:11:30.239 --> 01:11:35.800 classy game and has this really amazing mechanic which I 1527 01:11:35.800 --> 01:11:38.680 think none of think many people played it, but it's 1528 01:11:38.720 --> 01:11:41.359 made by Wales Interactive, so there's a shitload of wealth 1529 01:11:41.359 --> 01:11:44.640 stuff going on in that game, like Welsh language, Welsh songs, 1530 01:11:45.479 --> 01:11:46.560 and it's lovely. 1531 01:11:46.600 --> 01:11:50.960 It's a lovely little game, that is so I think. Yeah. 1532 01:11:51.079 --> 01:11:54.159 I googled Welsh video game characters and I found this 1533 01:11:54.239 --> 01:11:58.840 article called ig Podcast on ig Podcast represent representation of 1534 01:11:58.840 --> 01:12:00.960 Wales and the Welsh in gaming, so like they mentioned 1535 01:12:00.960 --> 01:12:01.560 like Edward. 1536 01:12:01.399 --> 01:12:07.079 Kenway English as well, that's why. 1537 01:12:07.119 --> 01:12:09.920 But you've got Merrill from dragon Age too, like a 1538 01:12:09.960 --> 01:12:13.479 lot of I mean, this goes back to I don't 1539 01:12:13.479 --> 01:12:15.239 know if it goes back to Tolkien, but certainly, like 1540 01:12:15.319 --> 01:12:16.800 that's the touch point I always think of is. 1541 01:12:16.760 --> 01:12:19.159 Like absolutely, the Elvin. 1542 01:12:18.880 --> 01:12:22.760 Language is taken a lot from Welsh, so in traditional 1543 01:12:22.840 --> 01:12:25.960 high fantasy, like in Dragon Age, in which ad Elvish 1544 01:12:26.199 --> 01:12:30.319 does sound a lot like Welsh. But however, this article 1545 01:12:31.239 --> 01:12:34.600 what about outside software? Are there any Welsh representatives in 1546 01:12:34.640 --> 01:12:38.600 the popular gaming media? There's all blah blah blah Marcus Bear. 1547 01:12:38.920 --> 01:12:46.119 There's also IGN's gap is confident and entertaining. Podcasting and 1548 01:12:46.279 --> 01:12:49.520 video content have certainly left a Welsh imprint on the 1549 01:12:49.560 --> 01:12:51.560 games and film journalism sphere. 1550 01:12:52.199 --> 01:13:00.640 That blog is written by my mum, so Dragon gave 1551 01:13:00.680 --> 01:13:06.199 him Dragon Blog. Yeah, that's the thing. I always I 1552 01:13:06.199 --> 01:13:07.479 feel like Welsh people are do. 1553 01:13:08.920 --> 01:13:11.399 Like I don't know why for some reason, we're not 1554 01:13:11.479 --> 01:13:14.359 thought of in the same way as Irish and Scottish, 1555 01:13:14.640 --> 01:13:17.600 because like Scottish, I feel like Scottish and Irish characters 1556 01:13:17.600 --> 01:13:20.000 just fucking show up in stuff all the time. 1557 01:13:20.600 --> 01:13:21.960 And yeah, all it'll. 1558 01:13:21.720 --> 01:13:24.920 Take is, like, you know, one person at Sony Santa 1559 01:13:24.960 --> 01:13:26.760 Monica or something to be like, hey, you know what, 1560 01:13:27.000 --> 01:13:28.960 We're not going to put a Scottish character in this time, 1561 01:13:29.000 --> 01:13:30.319 We're gonna put a Welsh character in. 1562 01:13:30.439 --> 01:13:32.199 How about that? Like, all it'll take is that, And 1563 01:13:32.239 --> 01:13:34.359 then yeah, there's get in. 1564 01:13:36.479 --> 01:13:38.720 It's the same thing. It's the same thing that happens 1565 01:13:38.760 --> 01:13:43.079 with Pakistani's Indians, Like it's always Indians like, but like 1566 01:13:43.159 --> 01:13:47.039 pakistanis exists too, like we're there, like hello anyone when 1567 01:13:47.119 --> 01:13:49.720 I put in, But it's just not But because you 1568 01:13:49.800 --> 01:13:53.319 can make an Indian sound like an Indian, yeah, to 1569 01:13:53.399 --> 01:13:56.840 make a Pakistani like like an Irish voice or a 1570 01:13:56.840 --> 01:14:00.319 Scottish voice has a distinctness to it, yeah, where as 1571 01:14:00.319 --> 01:14:02.640 a Welsh voice has like a more of like a 1572 01:14:02.680 --> 01:14:05.760 slant to it. Yeah, and like it's like it could 1573 01:14:05.800 --> 01:14:08.479 almost fade away. Yeah if you're like I listened to 1574 01:14:08.520 --> 01:14:10.479 you and it doesn't register as a Welsh accient it 1575 01:14:10.520 --> 01:14:10.960 just registers. 1576 01:14:11.199 --> 01:14:14.479 Yeah, and unfortunately for twelve years, so mine's kind of 1577 01:14:14.479 --> 01:14:16.680 gone a little bit. But your almost really weird is 1578 01:14:17.079 --> 01:14:19.920 when people try and do a Welsh accent badly, it 1579 01:14:19.960 --> 01:14:24.279 actually comes out sounding Indian, Yeah, which is. 1580 01:14:24.319 --> 01:14:27.840 Really odd but really yeah, but I know you mean. 1581 01:14:27.920 --> 01:14:30.560 It's the same thing where it's like you can you 1582 01:14:30.640 --> 01:14:33.159 know what a poo sounds like? Yeah, you don't know 1583 01:14:33.199 --> 01:14:34.319 what a Pakistani. 1584 01:14:34.479 --> 01:14:35.439 Yeah, that's true. 1585 01:14:35.439 --> 01:14:37.039 And I guess, like to be fair, probably Scottish and 1586 01:14:37.039 --> 01:14:41.239 Irish people are watching and playing through video games where 1587 01:14:41.239 --> 01:14:43.880 there's a Scottish and Irish character being like, you're this 1588 01:14:43.920 --> 01:14:46.880 person is obviously not Scottish or Irish, but people who 1589 01:14:46.960 --> 01:14:49.239 arem that will be like, yeah, that's fine because what 1590 01:14:49.239 --> 01:14:53.399 they're doing is a cartoon impression of that dialect, whereas yeah, 1591 01:14:53.399 --> 01:14:54.840 I know what you mean. It's like, maybe there's not 1592 01:14:54.880 --> 01:14:56.720 one of those for Welsh yet. 1593 01:14:56.399 --> 01:15:01.720 But there will be a Lana. 1594 01:15:03.000 --> 01:15:03.399 All right. 1595 01:15:03.399 --> 01:15:05.600 Well that's been episode of seventy six of Games Spot 1596 01:15:05.600 --> 01:15:07.560 After Dark. Thank you so much for joining us. A 1597 01:15:07.560 --> 01:15:10.800 lot of fun that before we go anything we want 1598 01:15:10.800 --> 01:15:12.880 to plug, Lucy, anything you want to plug? 1599 01:15:13.600 --> 01:15:22.920 Ah, watch the Expanse please so I can talk. No 1600 01:15:23.159 --> 01:15:26.159 I Andy Cortez is watching it, but he's at the 1601 01:15:26.199 --> 01:15:27.199 end of season. 1602 01:15:26.880 --> 01:15:32.359 One and I'm like, oh, can you buy Nike trainers please? 1603 01:15:34.680 --> 01:15:36.520 Kellogg's corn flakes. I hear they're pretty good. 1604 01:15:38.279 --> 01:15:39.439 Free plug. 1605 01:15:40.560 --> 01:15:42.560 Yeah, I think. The other thing I'm in this week 1606 01:15:42.920 --> 01:15:47.000 is the chat with Jake and John Luke about cyberpunk 1607 01:15:47.079 --> 01:15:49.319 multiplayer and changes we want to see to single player. 1608 01:15:50.039 --> 01:15:52.760 So go watch that YouTube com slash GameSpot. The police 1609 01:15:52.760 --> 01:15:55.640 are coming? Do you hear that coming? 1610 01:15:55.640 --> 01:15:59.239 For me? Another eyse plug? I can hear that doesn't. 1611 01:16:01.760 --> 01:16:03.600 I don't know where it was swatted you. 1612 01:16:06.880 --> 01:16:10.560 Both of you some more about yourself. Yeah, I don't 1613 01:16:10.600 --> 01:16:13.680 really have anything major plug. That article that a Field 1614 01:16:13.720 --> 01:16:16.600 did is up about Indiana Jones if you want to. 1615 01:16:17.239 --> 01:16:19.960 There's been some rumors about g TA six having a 1616 01:16:20.039 --> 01:16:24.319 female protagonist, which are incredibly spurious. I wouldn't be surprised 1617 01:16:24.319 --> 01:16:26.920 if it was true. But we didn't really want to 1618 01:16:26.920 --> 01:16:28.840 write about that. But we had a moment where we're like, oh, 1619 01:16:29.000 --> 01:16:32.640 TDA has had some fun protagonists, like so Alessandro pat 1620 01:16:32.680 --> 01:16:35.039 together a little feature about the kind of like looking 1621 01:16:35.079 --> 01:16:37.359 back at the protagonists through the g TA franchise. Some 1622 01:16:37.399 --> 01:16:41.439 good ones there. Yeah, that's pretty much it. I don't 1623 01:16:41.439 --> 01:16:46.840 really have anything to plug. Maybe rkg GA you can 1624 01:16:46.840 --> 01:16:49.680 plug more of it, but like, watch the resume they're watching, 1625 01:16:50.039 --> 01:16:52.840 and I'm currently watching Kg's Rezi series, which is very 1626 01:16:52.960 --> 01:16:53.319 very fun. 1627 01:16:55.720 --> 01:16:55.920 Yeah. 1628 01:16:56.720 --> 01:16:58.479 Yeah, I mean people are probably sick of hearing my 1629 01:16:58.560 --> 01:16:58.960 voice now. 1630 01:16:59.119 --> 01:17:01.159 So yeah, if you liked any of that, there are 1631 01:17:01.199 --> 01:17:04.079 two better people than me on OURKG that you can 1632 01:17:04.159 --> 01:17:07.520 listen to. Yeah, we've just done RESI three. We've got 1633 01:17:07.520 --> 01:17:10.039 a new show coming out on the twenty ninth, but Yeah, 1634 01:17:10.039 --> 01:17:11.520 Rezi three, I feel like I got a little bit 1635 01:17:11.520 --> 01:17:13.960 of a kick in when it came out, and I 1636 01:17:14.000 --> 01:17:16.359 think unfairly because that game is a lot fun and 1637 01:17:16.399 --> 01:17:18.359 we had a lot of fun playing it. Our show 1638 01:17:18.399 --> 01:17:21.319 is only six episodes long from start to finish, but 1639 01:17:21.760 --> 01:17:23.279 I mean, I feel like we get the best out 1640 01:17:23.279 --> 01:17:25.479 of that by putting up the hardcore mode and getting 1641 01:17:25.520 --> 01:17:27.239 stuck on bosses and stuff like that, which I think 1642 01:17:27.239 --> 01:17:29.479 a lot of people probably don't and maybe didn't play 1643 01:17:29.520 --> 01:17:31.560 in the exact same way as we did. But yeah, 1644 01:17:31.600 --> 01:17:33.560 I feel like Rezi three is a good show. If 1645 01:17:33.600 --> 01:17:36.000 you've never watched any of our stuff, is a good 1646 01:17:36.000 --> 01:17:37.880 one to go in at and then go back through 1647 01:17:37.880 --> 01:17:39.359 the rest of it, hopefully. 1648 01:17:39.479 --> 01:17:41.279 And then I am working on. 1649 01:17:42.760 --> 01:17:45.479 Which your cyberpunk dialogue video that hopefully will be done 1650 01:17:45.520 --> 01:17:48.239 Best Friday. But it's become a lot more ambitious than 1651 01:17:48.239 --> 01:17:50.319 I originally intended. I love those videos though, where you 1652 01:17:50.399 --> 01:17:52.159 go in the living room filming shit good. 1653 01:17:52.479 --> 01:17:54.000 I love those videos though, where you just go, well, 1654 01:17:54.039 --> 01:17:56.800 this is the crap version of it, and this is 1655 01:17:56.800 --> 01:17:58.439 the really ambitious version of it. 1656 01:17:58.880 --> 01:18:00.359 I might as well do that. Do that one. 1657 01:18:02.319 --> 01:18:05.760 I think it comes from just like being stuck in 1658 01:18:05.840 --> 01:18:08.279 the house for so long and filming this making the 1659 01:18:08.279 --> 01:18:10.840 same kind of videos, like, no, there's anything wrong with them, 1660 01:18:10.840 --> 01:18:13.520 but they're all like gameplay with voiceover. And I was like, no, 1661 01:18:13.800 --> 01:18:16.520 I bought all of this camera stuff. I have to 1662 01:18:16.600 --> 01:18:19.760 use it, and I think it will turn pretty. 1663 01:18:19.560 --> 01:18:20.800 Stuck when you get like, oh, you know what a 1664 01:18:20.840 --> 01:18:23.199 fancy a fancy a peanut, but a jelly sandwich. Peanut 1665 01:18:23.199 --> 01:18:24.760 but a gam sandwich. And by the end of it, 1666 01:18:24.760 --> 01:18:27.800 it's got like banana and it's been toasted and it's 1667 01:18:27.800 --> 01:18:30.159 got and you're like, it's a good metaphor. 1668 01:18:30.760 --> 01:18:32.520 It is literally what he does in the forty old 1669 01:18:34.239 --> 01:18:39.359 And we're back on the forty love it all right, Well, 1670 01:18:40.079 --> 01:18:42.159 thank you all so much for listening, and we will 1671 01:18:42.239 --> 01:18:44.319 see again next week, right,