Speaker 1: You're listening to episode seventy six of GameSpot After Dark.
Speaker 1: On this week's show, Gav Murphy of RKG joins us
Speaker 1: to talk about the new Indiana Jones game and the
Speaker 1: new Star Wars game. Hello, and welcome to episode seventy
Speaker 1: six of GameSpot After Dark. This is the Fallout seventy
Speaker 1: six special where we are only going to talk now,
Speaker 1: I'm just kidding. We're definitely not going to do that
Speaker 1: because everyone knows that this is the official Yakuza podcast.
Speaker 1: That's probably what we're going to talk about. In fact,
Speaker 1: I have inside knowledge that we will be talking about that.
Speaker 1: But anyway, joining me today is Lucy James.
Speaker 2: Hello to more.
Speaker 3: Hussein Boy and Gaf Murphy from RKG.
Speaker 2: Hello, thank you so much for having me on the podcast. Man,
Speaker 2: I'm very excited about this.
Speaker 3: Hey, thank you for joining.
Speaker 1: I fully anticipate this to turn into like a yaka
Speaker 1: is a very British episode of GameSpot after.
Speaker 3: Arc, but I am.
Speaker 4: Here for it. Yeah.
Speaker 5: Well, that's the thing is like lots of people are like, oh,
Speaker 5: you know, like we listened to podcasts and we watch
Speaker 5: things to get ourselves through. It's like the thing I
Speaker 5: listened to this podcast because I get to hang out
Speaker 5: with two of my buddies, which is quite nice. It's like,
Speaker 5: this is two guys, but I listened to them on
Speaker 5: the podcast and be like, but then also I listened
Speaker 5: to it when they're not on it as well, so
Speaker 5: it's kind of strange as well. Yeah, I love this podcast, man.
Speaker 3: Oh, we're happy to have you on. It's it's taken
Speaker 3: too long, to be honest.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's been like we've had it. You were on
Speaker 4: play for all of us last year as well. Yeah,
Speaker 4: but like it feels like four years ago now I
Speaker 4: know sus, I know man and like that that. Yeah,
Speaker 4: so we had your on video stuff and stream stuff,
Speaker 4: the all the elaborate stuff we've had. We've had you
Speaker 4: on our E three stuff.
Speaker 2: For a while yeah before that, but.
Speaker 4: We just haven't somehow done the podcast, which is like
Speaker 4: the easiest, the most basic thing. We skipped, like the
Speaker 4: we skipped the first stage to go to like stage
Speaker 4: ten to do everything.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: When I first saw it, when I saw you guys
Speaker 5: were doing something called GameSpot after Dark. The British people
Speaker 5: will know this, but there was a there's a crap
Speaker 5: soap in the UK called Hollyoaks and at one point
Speaker 5: they did a Hollyoaks after Dark, which was basically just
Speaker 5: the same show, but it was later at night and
Speaker 5: everyone got their bits out. When I saw game Spot
Speaker 5: after Dark, I was like, yeah, about time man, and
Speaker 5: by bits.
Speaker 4: We mean that genital is not like the Twitch currency.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: The after Dark name just kind of came about because
Speaker 1: we literally couldn't think of anything else. I remember we
Speaker 1: had meetings with multiple people and we're all like, we're
Speaker 1: actually not gonna call it after dark. This is just
Speaker 1: what we're thinking now because it'll be like an after hour.
Speaker 3: Sort of show.
Speaker 1: And then it came down to it and it was like,
Speaker 1: we want to start this podcast and we don't have
Speaker 1: a name, and I think we just had that And
Speaker 1: apparently there was a game Spot after Dark at some
Speaker 1: point before that before this.
Speaker 6: But has been everything though, like we had on the spot,
Speaker 6: but now rooster Teeth have taken on the spot, so
Speaker 6: we can't take that back.
Speaker 5: I think I think games Podcast should go the other
Speaker 5: way and start naming themselves like video games, so it'll
Speaker 5: be like GameSpot Absolution.
Speaker 6: It should be GameSpot Revenge.
Speaker 4: And yeah, that is a great idea. Oh my god,
Speaker 4: I really want to do that.
Speaker 6: Wait, we can we change the subtitle every week?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the play SEO would love that.
Speaker 6: I was gonna say, I don't think iTunes would love
Speaker 6: the re submission every week.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I wouldn't want to do that.
Speaker 1: But anyway, normally we start with what we've been playing,
Speaker 1: but because we have a guest here, we are going
Speaker 1: to start with the Chris from Dayton, Ohio segment, Chris
Speaker 1: yav Who are you?
Speaker 4: What do you do?
Speaker 3: What's something that the folks at home listening should know
Speaker 3: about you?
Speaker 5: I don't know about should know hopefully will know by
Speaker 5: the end of this. I'm one third. The main thing
Speaker 5: is I'm one third of rkg, which is a very
Speaker 5: small YouTube channel one I run that I run with
Speaker 5: two of my buddies, Daniel and Rory. We used to
Speaker 5: work for IGN and we got known for playing Dark Souls,
Speaker 5: Bloodborne and all the from games, and we decided to
Speaker 5: leave and do it for ourselves about two years ago,
Speaker 5: well two years ago basically now this is our birthday
Speaker 5: right now. Yeah, So we started doing that. So you
Speaker 5: can find us on YouTube. We're on Patreon where we.
Speaker 2: Do a lot of extra stuff.
Speaker 5: We have one of the best communities in the world,
Speaker 5: I think, so that's pretty good. They've been amazing for
Speaker 5: the last couple of years because obviously, like usually for
Speaker 5: our birthday we do loads of big things like a
Speaker 5: big live stream and stuff like that, but we haven't
Speaker 5: been able to do anything so because like what's really
Speaker 5: strangers starting your own company and then going into a
Speaker 5: pandemic in the second year, and we were like, what
Speaker 5: do we do?
Speaker 6: I mean, your community, Tim and I have both been
Speaker 6: on arcade like various ARKG videos here and there, and
Speaker 6: every time or even even if I'm just in a
Speaker 6: tweet with you guys, like your community is so nice
Speaker 6: and respectful and like just full of bands. Yeah, you guys,
Speaker 6: you guys drive the band of us and they just
Speaker 6: like so happy, such happy passengers who like spread it
Speaker 6: up driving.
Speaker 4: When people say we want to we want to set
Speaker 4: an example and be like, you know, show the community
Speaker 4: how to you know, behave the best example of how
Speaker 4: to do it, and when it works, what happens is
Speaker 4: archag like because the community is a reflection of you
Speaker 4: guys to me, because because I know you guys, like
Speaker 4: we're close friends, we've been friends for eighties and when
Speaker 4: I'm in that community, it feels like this is just
Speaker 4: a bunch of GAVs and Rory's and croopers and like
Speaker 4: they were just like they have their own personality as well,
Speaker 4: and they have their own thing going on, but like
Speaker 4: the values are reflected, and it's like, I mean, if you,
Speaker 4: if you, if you're listening to this and you don't
Speaker 4: really know the community and you're a good person, don't
Speaker 4: be wrong, and highly recommend going over to RKG stuff
Speaker 4: and checking it out and letting them know where it
Speaker 4: came from. It it's such a nice place to be
Speaker 4: as well.
Speaker 6: One of my favorite things is Rory on TikTok and
Speaker 6: you can see the RKG community like has blown up
Speaker 6: on TikTok a few times, like he's got a really
Speaker 6: good series about he's making a Sea Monkey Army, And
Speaker 6: it's really funny if you go in the comments of that,
Speaker 6: because you'll always see the RKG, like the RKG community
Speaker 6: because they always post like Michael.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Michael, Michael, mich Michael. And like I was in
Speaker 4: a kind of funny stream the other day and people
Speaker 4: were talking about Rory's inability to do things in Soul's games,
Speaker 4: Like they were talking about Michael Zaki and there's there's
Speaker 4: r KG jokes everywhere now and it's bizarre because like
Speaker 4: it was wild because it was a kind of it
Speaker 4: was Greg playing Bloodborn for the first time and it
Speaker 4: was like and like Blessing was playing Securo and people
Speaker 4: are like, everyone knows Rory can't parry, and I was.
Speaker 2: Like, what, it's good man.
Speaker 5: It's it's like it's a really small community, but they
Speaker 5: are loud, but in a nice respect you You're right,
Speaker 5: it is a nice respectful way. It's strange because like
Speaker 5: we've been going for so long, but we have no
Speaker 5: mods or admins or anything like that.
Speaker 2: We never really needed it.
Speaker 5: I think half of it is out of respect, half
Speaker 5: of it is out of fear.
Speaker 2: But it's yeah, it's good man.
Speaker 4: It's the thing that you just you said this a
Speaker 4: couple of episodes of shield Up, which is your podcast
Speaker 4: to go, and it really really like cemented how I
Speaker 4: feel about the community. I think the r KG community
Speaker 4: is the only community on the Internet that I'd allow
Speaker 4: my mother to join and be because I know everyone's
Speaker 4: just going to be respectful.
Speaker 5: I shot myself recently because we have like a like
Speaker 5: a running well.
Speaker 2: I don't. Rory has a running joke with he compares
Speaker 2: various from.
Speaker 5: Monsters to my mom and like the Gaping Dragon. I
Speaker 5: think was the first time he was like, h we
Speaker 5: came across the Gaping Dragon's like, oh, I don't know
Speaker 5: your mum was in this.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's a classic joke.
Speaker 5: That's an amazing joke, and obviously every game he kind
Speaker 5: of does it. And then my mum and my sister
Speaker 5: were watching our Halloween stream and they jumped in and
Speaker 5: I my mom was in the comments, and I was like,
Speaker 5: oh my god, and I was.
Speaker 2: Just you know, that was like one of the biggest
Speaker 2: streams we ever had.
Speaker 5: There was like twelve hundred people watching there, and I
Speaker 5: was like, oh my god, Oh my god, one of
Speaker 5: them is going to call it a.
Speaker 2: Gaping dragon or something now. But everyone was like, hello,
Speaker 2: missus Murphy, how are you. It was so nice and respectful.
Speaker 5: And then she was like, okay, I'm I'm going to
Speaker 5: bed now, and then she left and then they were.
Speaker 2: Like, I don't know then at the beginning, they were
Speaker 2: so respectful.
Speaker 5: So yeah, they're amazing people, man, They're really really good.
Speaker 6: But I mean, honestly, one of the things I loved
Speaker 6: was when we did the play for All stream and
Speaker 6: seeing like the after Dark Discord community and the RKG
Speaker 6: community like slow like just kind of being like reaching
Speaker 6: out and being friends, which is really nice because like
Speaker 6: similarly to the like the games for discords, just full
Speaker 6: of such nice people, like like just having such pleasant
Speaker 6: conversations and being kind to each other and up lifting
Speaker 6: each other. Yeah, so basically basically it's like it's like
Speaker 6: when you have two friends that you want to get
Speaker 6: together and you're.
Speaker 2: Like against each other.
Speaker 4: I like it should probably answer the other questions in
Speaker 4: the Chris from Day and Ohio segment.
Speaker 1: Yeah, considering this is a video game podcast, like what
Speaker 1: are some of your favorite games or games you return
Speaker 1: to all the time every year?
Speaker 5: I was actually someone talked about this recently because I've
Speaker 5: been lucky enough to be part of a BBC podcast
Speaker 5: that's been going for the last couple of months, and
Speaker 5: as part of that, every person that comes on gets
Speaker 5: to do this section, which is whole of game where
Speaker 5: they pick one game that they would put in a
Speaker 5: kind of like Desert Island disc sort of thing with
Speaker 5: it's just one video game you had to play forever.
Speaker 5: And I thought about it for so long, and I
Speaker 5: was like, I think hot Land Miami, I think is
Speaker 5: my favorite video game because.
Speaker 2: I just the way, the way that I.
Speaker 5: Came to that game was like a really really nice
Speaker 5: way where there's this thing called EGX, which you guys
Speaker 5: will know about, maybe j you don't know, but it's
Speaker 5: like it's basically like a big it's now packs and
Speaker 5: shit like that, but it used to be a lot smaller,
Speaker 5: and it was in London and it was just years
Speaker 5: and years and years ago, and I used to basically
Speaker 5: go down, not really go to the show, but it
Speaker 5: was like a really nice community drinks afterwards in the pub.
Speaker 2: And I went down and it was like one guy
Speaker 2: was just like, have you played Hotland Miami?
Speaker 5: And it was the first preview that anything had been
Speaker 5: shown ever and I was like, no, I don't know
Speaker 5: what that is. And they were like, just go over
Speaker 5: there right now and player, go over to EGX right
Speaker 5: now and play. I was like, no, we're at the
Speaker 5: pub and stuff. He was like, doesn't matter, just go
Speaker 5: over and play it. And I was like really and
Speaker 5: he was like yeah, okay. So I went over and
Speaker 5: then played it, and I just I don't know. I
Speaker 5: don't remember ever feeling like that about any other video
Speaker 5: game before, just feeling like it's like a perfect mix
Speaker 5: of like tone, atmosphere, music, scripting, story in like this
Speaker 5: tiny little preview, and then came back and it was
Speaker 5: like this weird thing is like you could see the
Speaker 5: look on everyone's eyes, like you could pick out genuinely
Speaker 5: who'd played Hotland Miami out in this publy, like did
Speaker 5: you put.
Speaker 2: Out my miamiy? Yeah I did, And then you'd be
Speaker 2: like what is it? What's it gonna be? And stuff
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 5: But I think like Hotland Miami is probably my favorite
Speaker 5: game that and I thought about this recently. The new
Speaker 5: God of War I think.
Speaker 2: Is my favorite as well.
Speaker 5: I just I don't know, I connected with that game
Speaker 5: in a way that I didn't think I was going to.
Speaker 5: I just kind of fell in love with it. And obviously,
Speaker 5: but I mean, we built our entire company on from
Speaker 5: Soft Games, and I famously never played once.
Speaker 2: I think I've played.
Speaker 5: I mean the most I've ever played was we did
Speaker 5: we did a video seeing if we could finish Dark
Speaker 5: Souls on a plane on the flight back from LA
Speaker 5: to London. And that's the most I've ever played Dark Souls.
Speaker 4: I think really that video is absolutely incredible and everyone
Speaker 4: should watch it.
Speaker 5: That's kind of what I'm more upset about COVID sort
Speaker 5: of fucking us, is that's the stuff that we want
Speaker 5: to make, you know, like we make, let's know, some stuff,
Speaker 5: but like we're in this to make cool ship like
Speaker 5: that because we can and we know that that's what
Speaker 5: people like. And we had so many plans for these
Speaker 5: big videos. Man that obviously the RONA is just absolutely shafted,
Speaker 5: but there we.
Speaker 4: Are, hopefully. Gav was one of the few people who
Speaker 4: who's been inside from software.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, and walked in walked in yeah once legally
Speaker 5: once really illegally.
Speaker 2: I literally broke into from so.
Speaker 1: Story quickly, Well, hold on, did you learn anything about
Speaker 1: Eldon Ring?
Speaker 4: Because we're desperately This was.
Speaker 5: This was before Bloodborne, man, this was like okay. But
Speaker 5: basically I was on holiday and I was it was
Speaker 5: after a particularly bad breakup, and I was on holday
Speaker 5: in Japan, and I was with some buddies but we'd
Speaker 5: split up for like six days because they went somewhere
Speaker 5: else and I was just in Japan by myself and
Speaker 5: feeling particularly sad and down and hungover and jet lagged and.
Speaker 2: Didn't you know that jet lag where you don't really
Speaker 2: know what's going on.
Speaker 5: And I was having breakfast and I was like, I
Speaker 5: wonder where from because what.
Speaker 2: We've just done do souls three?
Speaker 4: I think?
Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, I wonder where. I wonder
Speaker 2: where it is.
Speaker 5: And I realized I was like a twenty five minute
Speaker 5: walk away from there. So I was like, I'll just
Speaker 5: go and take a photo outside and like posted that.
Speaker 5: So I went took a photo outside and I was
Speaker 5: like just you know, just tweeting and stuff. And it
Speaker 5: was when Instagram stories had just started, which probably makes
Speaker 5: me sound really old, but I was like six years ago,
Speaker 5: so it's not that old really, So I just mess
Speaker 5: around with that. And then I was like, okay, I'll
Speaker 5: go inside to the foyer. And it's obviously like if
Speaker 5: you've ever been to a Japanese company, it's not like
Speaker 5: you go in huge campus or anything. It looks boring
Speaker 5: as hell. And I walked in and then it was like,
Speaker 5: no one stopped me from getting in the left. Then
Speaker 5: no one stopped me from going to the floor, no
Speaker 5: one stopped me from going in the office, and it
Speaker 5: was this mad thing where I was like, I managed
Speaker 5: to get inside the office, but I think they just
Speaker 5: shipped the Dark Souls three DLC, so there was obviously
Speaker 5: just nobody. There was walking around looking at people's computers
Speaker 5: and shit like that, like it was so illegal.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 4: I love the idea of it being exactly like a
Speaker 4: from software area where you walk in no one's around.
Speaker 4: It's slightly dangerous. You need to pick up like items
Speaker 4: and figure out where everyone is.
Speaker 3: It's only like years late text appearing in front of you.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, it was only like years later.
Speaker 5: I remember speaking to a buddy at Sony and she
Speaker 5: was like, yeah, that was a thing that day and
Speaker 5: I was like, really, it's like because I only just
Speaker 5: started working for IGN at that point and she was like, yeah,
Speaker 5: you know I was getting emails being like some of
Speaker 5: from IGN has broken into FROM.
Speaker 2: I was like, so sorry.
Speaker 5: That that was a thing you had to deal with,
Speaker 5: but I do it again in a heartbeat.
Speaker 1: Well, we shoul probably move on to what we've been
Speaker 1: playing this week, Tam, do you want to start.
Speaker 4: I'm not going to take up too much time because
Speaker 4: I want to hear what Gav has been up to
Speaker 4: and what Lucy has been up to, but I've been
Speaker 4: playing Psakiro again. I needed something to kind of occupy
Speaker 4: my mind and give me something to focus on. I'm
Speaker 4: feeling a bit aimless in the early part of this year,
Speaker 4: so I was like, oh, you know what, I played
Speaker 4: Securo for a review on my US account, so I
Speaker 4: don't have any like trophies or any progress for it
Speaker 4: on my main account. So I went, I downloaded that
Speaker 4: game again and basically started a fresh install, fresh game. Sorry,
Speaker 4: And yeah, I'm kind of in my mind, I'm thinking
Speaker 4: I'm going to aim for a platinum, but I'm not
Speaker 4: sure if i want to get the platinum because I've
Speaker 4: got one platinum and it's Bloodborn and it's been that
Speaker 4: way for maybe what four or five years, probably longer
Speaker 4: than since the game came out.
Speaker 2: Basically, I don't have a single platinum.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I make a point of not going for platinums
Speaker 4: because I'm like, I don't really want to grind for
Speaker 4: things like that, and I feel like it's more of
Speaker 4: a statement if I have one platinum than if I
Speaker 4: have twenty seven.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is a statement.
Speaker 4: It's like when Canyo Wes was following one person, not
Speaker 4: yeah exactly. That's what it is, and I don't really
Speaker 4: want to add another one to it, but like I
Speaker 4: was thinking, I'll aim for it and then once I'm there,
Speaker 4: I'll decide if I want to add the second one.
Speaker 4: Because Securo still having two platinums is I feel like
Speaker 4: I lose the statement of only having one, but then
Speaker 4: I make the statement of I have the two from
Speaker 4: software games.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, yeah, but then you've got to do the other.
Speaker 4: Now that's that's where I'm like, which which includes So
Speaker 4: I think Krouper started doing that right Like he he
Speaker 4: started doing a bunch of them, and I think he
Speaker 4: got yeah, and I was like, I don't want to
Speaker 4: be in that situation because he's got like there's some
Speaker 4: Covenant stuff that's messed up.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah.
Speaker 4: So I was like, I don't want to do it.
Speaker 5: That's a whole thing, man, Like so Croops has been
Speaker 5: doing it for our Patreon producers, so people support us
Speaker 5: of like twenty dollars and above, they get access to
Speaker 5: these like private live streams, which is just most of
Speaker 5: it is at the moment, just Daniel streaming for like
Speaker 5: eight hours, just grinding shit, trying to get But he
Speaker 5: did the Dark Souls one platinum and he's doing the
Speaker 5: Dark Souls three platinum, but like I think he's shared
Speaker 5: on Twitter, I'm not sure. I'll have to send you, guys,
Speaker 5: you have to put it in the description of this
Speaker 5: podcast or something. But we have this amazing guy who's
Speaker 5: into our communical Ryan, and he made basically E coded
Speaker 5: this spreadsheet that is basically like updates as he gets
Speaker 5: these different rings and all this different stuff.
Speaker 4: It is.
Speaker 2: It's a job, man, Yeah.
Speaker 4: I don't want it to be a job. So I've
Speaker 4: been doing that and I'll just I'll figure out whether
Speaker 4: I want to actually hit that platinum and then go
Speaker 4: from there. But I'm really enjoying jumping back into psaco
Speaker 4: again and feeling that that specific style of combat it's
Speaker 4: really still works and it still feels like some of
Speaker 4: the best combat. And then I've been playing Yakuza, but
Speaker 4: I'll talk about that.
Speaker 1: I was looking at like it was it SOUNI Legend
Speaker 1: on Twitter does a lot of those gifts, and they've
Speaker 1: been doing some Securo ones recently.
Speaker 3: I mean they've been doing it since the game came.
Speaker 1: Out, but I was looking at one of the more
Speaker 1: recent ones and I was like, man, you probably didn't
Speaker 1: have to do a lot of work to get this
Speaker 1: because the combat itself looks so damn good already and
Speaker 1: so cinematic, and like the hip boxes, I think was
Speaker 1: something that always apprised that game, Like that game ridiculous.
Speaker 1: They're they're perfect. It seems there's like.
Speaker 4: A there's a specific gift that's a legend's done where
Speaker 4: I can't remember which which enemy is, but I mean
Speaker 4: it's one of the ones that tries to kick you,
Speaker 4: and there's like four different versions of them, and like
Speaker 4: the hip box for Securo was like he ducked underneath
Speaker 4: the kick and it was like an actual slide underneath
Speaker 4: the limb and the hip box is never connected and
Speaker 4: that was like onbelievable.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, like unless your game you just take damage
Speaker 1: from that because you're in the vicinity.
Speaker 4: But there's actual fighting games street Fighters and tecans Is
Speaker 4: that don't have.
Speaker 2: Precise Yeah, that's true, that's wild.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I love seeing all those gifts and stuff.
Speaker 5: I think it was you Town that shared one and
Speaker 5: it was like that shows the similarities between Sakuro and Awls,
Speaker 5: like he's trained him because I have a lot of
Speaker 5: the same like mannerisms and things like that. And I
Speaker 5: think like the one it's not it's not in a
Speaker 5: fighting thing, but someone shared it or someone showed center
Speaker 5: to me, and it's basically like in the first again
Speaker 5: a CHERI fight when you lose your arm, like pulling
Speaker 5: his blade out and stumbling.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like.
Speaker 2: It's like that is unbelievable, and also so many little
Speaker 2: things like that. He's just like I would never have
Speaker 2: noticed that.
Speaker 4: That's amazing legend as well, what an amazing account, Like
Speaker 4: there's a there's a giff he did for Definite micro
Speaker 4: five the neuro DLC the other day, and it's like
Speaker 4: Nero is not Nero a Virgil. Virgil is just standing
Speaker 4: there and like he's just like he's going through stances
Speaker 4: with his sword. But while he's doing that and like
Speaker 4: a demon apparition that he's summoned is fighting an enemy
Speaker 4: around him, and all he's doing is like flexing his
Speaker 4: sword and then like charging up and then it ends
Speaker 4: with him like he's basically doing cutters and then he
Speaker 4: ends and just like takes his sword out and delivers
Speaker 4: one hit and kills the enemy. It looks unreal. It
Speaker 4: looks like you look at it and you're like, how
Speaker 4: is this in a game, and how has this been captured?
Speaker 4: It's ridiculous. Yeah, great, count Well.
Speaker 1: I'll go next because I haven't really been playing anything new.
Speaker 1: I think I talked about it last week too. It's
Speaker 1: just Risk of Rain two. That game is so good.
Speaker 1: Highly recommend it, especially if you've got some friends. But
Speaker 1: just the way you're able to build your character through
Speaker 1: each run is just so incredible. Like you'll start out
Speaker 1: with a simple dash ability that gets you from you
Speaker 1: know er point A to point B with a slow
Speaker 1: cool down, and then by the end you are like
Speaker 1: not even touching the ground because you've got so many
Speaker 1: I forget what they're called hard light after burners that
Speaker 1: you're just zipping around the map.
Speaker 3: Like just the way that game the gameplay.
Speaker 1: Evolves over like an hour, I mean, if you last
Speaker 1: an hour is it is something I've never seen before.
Speaker 1: The game is super impressive. I highly recommend it. But yeah,
Speaker 1: that that game is amazing. But that's all I'll say
Speaker 1: because I talked a lot about it last week. But Lucy,
Speaker 1: you weren't on last weeks would.
Speaker 6: Have keepen up to uh So I am trying in
Speaker 6: twenty twenty one to not replay old stuff and watch
Speaker 6: old stuff to kind of push myself to actually experience
Speaker 6: new stuff. So I've got a big list of stuff
Speaker 6: that I want to work through. I played the Last Campfire,
Speaker 6: which is a little puzzle game by Hello Games, and
Speaker 6: it's fantastic. I think the sale ends today, but I
Speaker 6: picked it up for like nine quid and if you're
Speaker 6: into it, you can platinum it in one run, which
Speaker 6: I did.
Speaker 5: If I wasn't the podcast, would you have said nine
Speaker 5: dollars then no, because I still.
Speaker 6: Have a UK PSN account. Nine good. It was fantastic
Speaker 6: and it's like a really well put together puzzle game,
Speaker 6: very beautiful and also quite sad but very melancholic, but
Speaker 6: it's very good. But the PS five, well it's PS four,
Speaker 6: but I played like my PS five. I loved it.
Speaker 4: I think it's from the Switch as well.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it's a it's on a bunch of stuff.
Speaker 6: It's not on game Pass because otherwise I would have
Speaker 6: fixed up on that. But I'm actually glad that I
Speaker 6: bought it because like, obviously Hello Games have no Man's
Speaker 6: Sky going, but it's I wanted to support them in
Speaker 6: a different way. But the main thing I've been doing
Speaker 6: is watching the expense because for years people have been
Speaker 6: telling me that I would enjoy the expense, and I
Speaker 6: just didn't get around to watching it. And then in
Speaker 6: this twenty twenty one, I, you know, decided to finally
Speaker 6: watch it instead of watching Battlestar Galactica Again. What turns
Speaker 6: out it's basically Battlestar Galactica but with a mad budget,
Speaker 6: and it has like it hit some of the highs
Speaker 6: of Battlestar for sure for me.
Speaker 2: How much of it have you watched?
Speaker 6: I'm halfway through season three and I started yesterday a
Speaker 6: week and a half ago.
Speaker 4: Amazing effort.
Speaker 6: Yeah. But the thing is as well, it's because I
Speaker 6: was thinking about this, is that each season, like seasons
Speaker 6: one and two. Season one is ten episodes, season two
Speaker 6: is like thirteen.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I was like, that is a perfect length for a series.
Speaker 6: How on earth did we think twenty four episodes of
Speaker 6: forty five minutes to an hour long TV was okay?
Speaker 4: I blamed twenty four Well.
Speaker 6: Because it's how you get like the absolute shitter episodes
Speaker 6: of last Jack's Tattoos.
Speaker 4: I'm looking oh yeah, oh my god, I forgot that,
Speaker 4: nik NICKI and.
Speaker 2: That episode is a banger. Yeah, I love it. I
Speaker 2: love it.
Speaker 6: It's such a weird one because I think they could
Speaker 6: have been really interesting, but then they were shoehorned in
Speaker 6: for just that episode.
Speaker 4: Isn't Like yeah, isn't. Isn't that like the episode that
Speaker 4: they use as the springboard for the game, this one
Speaker 4: random episode which is basically like the springboard for the game,
Speaker 4: And you're like, wow.
Speaker 1: Because don't you play a different survivor that like showed
Speaker 1: up in the background of an episode.
Speaker 4: Something like Lost what is it called Lost?
Speaker 6: Via don't vio doormous?
Speaker 3: I played like fifteen minutes of it because I was
Speaker 3: really into the show at the time.
Speaker 4: I was like, this is bad.
Speaker 6: I got the first smoke wonstan Counter and I was like, oh.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the same thing happened with twenty four. I was like, oh, like,
Speaker 4: we take this random moment of twenty four and turn
Speaker 4: it into I bought twenty four. I started it, and
Speaker 4: I had an immediate bug where Jack Bower wasn't visible,
Speaker 4: only his gun was, And I was like, well, I
Speaker 4: basically bought this game to be Jack Beller and it
Speaker 4: won't let me see him, So I've done with this.
Speaker 5: Was that the game that was on PS two that
Speaker 5: was a good game, man, it had it was generally
Speaker 5: good because it had these absolutely wild like hacking minigames
Speaker 5: in it and like diffusing mini games in it so well.
Speaker 4: So like if you if your license game has a
Speaker 4: hacking minigame in it, you're good because like enter the Matrix,
Speaker 4: like everyone thought that was gonna be a shier, but
Speaker 4: then you get that, you get that hacking minigame when
Speaker 4: you're like, oh, this is sick.
Speaker 2: Oh I love it.
Speaker 3: It's crazy how far licensed games have come.
Speaker 1: Yeah, speaking automatic and talk about them very soon, but anyway,
Speaker 1: now it's time to talk about Yakuza.
Speaker 2: Get that's the thing.
Speaker 5: I was like, I felt really bad because I was like,
Speaker 5: I know this is basically an unofficial Yakuza podcast, but
Speaker 5: maybe I'll fit in a little bit. But yeah, it
Speaker 5: was like, I've never played the Yakuza game before. I
Speaker 5: played about fifteen hours of Judgment and really liked it,
Speaker 5: but it was one of those things where I can
Speaker 5: I just fell off, and then when I went back,
Speaker 5: I had no idea what was going on, and I
Speaker 5: just I spent a couple of hours trying to like remember,
Speaker 5: and it just wasn't gonna happen. So I just was like,
Speaker 5: I'm gonna have to go back and start that from
Speaker 5: Gratch if I ever do it. But with Yakus, I
Speaker 5: was like, well, I've got an Xbox, I haven't got
Speaker 5: like much new stuff, so I was like, I'll give
Speaker 5: it a go because I heard like, you don't need
Speaker 5: to have played all the other yakuzas and stuff to
Speaker 5: be able to enjoy it. Man, I'm like chapter eleven,
Speaker 5: I love it. It's so strange, but it's so bloody charming.
Speaker 5: It's like I played if I picked it up just
Speaker 5: before Christmas and during like the Christmas that like dead
Speaker 5: time between Christmas and New Year where everyone is basically
Speaker 5: just turn around in circles, which is even worse this
Speaker 5: year because no one could do anything. But I was like,
Speaker 5: I couldn't sleep, So I was getting up with like
Speaker 5: a half past six in the morning playing like three
Speaker 5: or four hours of Yakuza before my partner woke up,
Speaker 5: and I.
Speaker 2: Just loved it.
Speaker 5: I just completely fall in love with it. Like this,
Speaker 5: I don't think is a perfect game by any stretch
Speaker 5: of the imagination. Like I don't think it's gonna make
Speaker 5: me want to go back and play the other yaku games.
Speaker 5: At all, but my time with it, I'm just really enjoying.
Speaker 5: I just think it's it's just because I have I
Speaker 5: don't have many other than love in Japan and have
Speaker 5: been to Japan a few times. I don't have many
Speaker 5: like Japanese cultural touch points really, Whereas like I played
Speaker 5: Valhalla like Assassin Qui Valhala for a bit and you're like,
Speaker 5: you play it and you go, yeah, I reckon the
Speaker 5: writers for this probably really into Game of Thrones where
Speaker 5: because it's fucking like playing a Game of Thrones.
Speaker 2: Whereas I feel like with Yakuza, I.
Speaker 5: Have no idea what's going on and it feels completely new,
Speaker 5: but the story is there's not a lot going on
Speaker 5: in the story really is like you know, rival Yakuza clans,
Speaker 5: and like the actual storyline is is basically like a
Speaker 5: Steven Sagal movie stretched out over like really long.
Speaker 6: Daddy, whyet you love me?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 5: But yeah, I've just completely fallen in love with every character,
Speaker 5: like Itchi is like it's just something else, and I
Speaker 5: feel like the writing it, like the one bit I
Speaker 5: think is quite a famous bit, but it's the bit
Speaker 5: where you meet one of the heads of the Yakers.
Speaker 5: The time for ages and he lays out this entire
Speaker 5: big plan and about why you know, everything is biffed
Speaker 5: and everything everyone's about to have a really really horrible time,
Speaker 5: and Itchy Man looks terrified and he goes, I know
Speaker 5: I should be scared by this, but what you just
Speaker 5: said was awesome.
Speaker 2: They're so good. I love this.
Speaker 5: Game because it just feels like it's doing all this,
Speaker 5: like it really embraces how just odd it is as
Speaker 5: a game.
Speaker 2: But I'm completely smitten with it.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it is a character and everyone like numbers,
Speaker 4: amazing numbers. Number is good. I like a Dutch a
Speaker 4: lot as well, because it's yeah, an absolute top ten
Speaker 4: three loader, various other all the characters are really endearing
Speaker 4: and that's kind of like that's the one thing that
Speaker 4: is kind of at the core of all yukers there games. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and this game does it really well. But I don't know,
Speaker 4: like this feels like a The interesting thing is like
Speaker 4: the gameplay. It seems like, on the surface when you
Speaker 4: look at it, like a turn based RPG should be
Speaker 4: more hardcore, but it actually turns out it makes it
Speaker 4: easier for people to get into. It's less demanding, and
Speaker 4: the pace is different, whereas like I think Kiss always
Speaker 4: still the best in the franchise, but like it the
Speaker 4: like real time combat can make it tricky for people,
Speaker 4: so like Yuckers are like a dragon, It's definitely like
Speaker 4: the best entry point to get everything. To understand why
Speaker 4: people love that franchise.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I do kind of like it because Tom, you
Speaker 5: and I were talking about it over What'sapup a little
Speaker 5: bit where it was just like anytime that you like,
Speaker 5: I love tern based like RPG fighting.
Speaker 2: I think it's awesome.
Speaker 5: Like I loved what Found Fantasy sevend remake did with
Speaker 5: the new combat system though that was great, but I
Speaker 5: did I did kind of want to see what a
Speaker 5: proper turn based thing was going to look like. And
Speaker 5: I think with this, if you have a turn based COMBA,
Speaker 5: I think you can guarantee it's going to be set
Speaker 5: in some random fantasy world of And that's just stuff
Speaker 5: that I'm just not interested in, Like as as someone
Speaker 5: who like as a story thing, that's not something interesting
Speaker 5: me at all, Whereas this is like a modern game,
Speaker 5: but it does all this wild turn based stuff, which
Speaker 5: I think is just great and I've kind of missed
Speaker 5: that a little bit. You know, like actually thinking about
Speaker 5: what I'm going to be doing a strategizing moves and
Speaker 5: things like that, Like I've really really missed that video games,
Speaker 5: and I think this does it really well.
Speaker 4: Have you used number as a shove technique to push
Speaker 4: someone into a road so they get hit by a car.
Speaker 2: It's amazing, It's so good.
Speaker 5: That's the thing that I'm kind of like, I don't
Speaker 5: I kind of it kind of.
Speaker 2: Works a lot for the way that the.
Speaker 5: Fights meant to be happening, because basically they're meant to
Speaker 5: be happening as real fights, but in Itchi Band's head,
Speaker 5: they are dragon quest fights.
Speaker 2: So it's like this weird thing where.
Speaker 5: In a normal fight, the world would stop around you,
Speaker 5: and you go in a fight where obviously, like you're
Speaker 5: in the middle of the road, you run into people,
Speaker 5: there's going to be stuff going on. And I feel
Speaker 5: like the first time that I run past someone and
Speaker 5: they just kind of booted me up the art us
Speaker 5: like the other enemy like booting me at the US,
Speaker 5: I was like, Oh, that's great, that's really clever because
Speaker 5: it's it's exactly what would happen.
Speaker 2: It completely makes sense.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I love him, man, Like it's just also like,
Speaker 5: my partner's been watching me play I keep saying my
Speaker 5: partner because Jake isn't but like you guys know Clara,
Speaker 5: but like you've been watching me play it, and it's
Speaker 5: so weird watching someone seeing stuff happen out of context.
Speaker 2: Like the other day when I was just like shipping myself,
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, I'll summon the baby dude, and.
Speaker 5: This guy comes in and then you know, he messes
Speaker 5: up all the guys you're fighting, and Carus is watching all.
Speaker 2: Going like this is amazing, so funny.
Speaker 4: I think, Yeah, someone Nancy like yeah, the crustacean and
Speaker 4: it's so good. What's going on here? Like explaining parts
Speaker 4: of that game to people, like try explaining to anyone
Speaker 4: where Ichiban was born and raised like that, how do
Speaker 4: you think explain what a soap land is? The fact
Speaker 4: that soap lands are okay, it's ridiculous.
Speaker 5: Also, as well as we were meant to go to
Speaker 5: I was meant to go to Japan twice last year.
Speaker 5: Obviously the book got canceled. We were talking about going
Speaker 5: to Japan together, like yeah, like that obviously, like I
Speaker 5: think we were talking about going right now.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I was.
Speaker 6: I was looking back at that discord chat and it
Speaker 6: was like about a year ago we set it up
Speaker 6: and it was like, Okay, let's go like January and everything.
Speaker 3: I'll be fine.
Speaker 2: Then it's ridiculous, that's all right.
Speaker 6: It just means I can keep saving and when we.
Speaker 2: Eventually go, like, we'll be the most decadent trip ever.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so much money, so many soap lands, so many
Speaker 4: soap plans.
Speaker 2: But that's the thing that hit the hole.
Speaker 5: Whereas like now I'm at least I'm getting to experience
Speaker 5: a little tiny bit of Japan a little bit, like
Speaker 5: and you walk into those shops and like the sound
Speaker 5: of the shop, like the ambient sound of those supermarkets,
Speaker 5: those little Coombanie stores, Like that is exactly how they sound.
Speaker 2: It's so like I stuck on headphones and play.
Speaker 5: I was like, I feel like it's five am and
Speaker 5: I'm pissed walking around getting those little cupsack's.
Speaker 4: Kind of an egg salad sandwich.
Speaker 2: Yeah exactly.
Speaker 6: Oh don't someone on my someone I follow on Instagram
Speaker 6: lives out in Japan and she's an American woman. She
Speaker 6: lives in Japan, and she just posted this thing about
Speaker 6: egg salad sandwiches. The Seven eleven ones and you know,
Speaker 6: and I was like immediately overcome with this craving for them.
Speaker 6: So I literally did like I was about to hunt
Speaker 6: down a recipe and go buy all. And then I
Speaker 6: realized that was the beginning of the fourty year old
Speaker 6: Virgin where he spends an entire weekend making an egg
Speaker 6: salad sandwich.
Speaker 4: And I was like, I mean, I'm gonna I'm gonna
Speaker 4: do it anyway, because every time I go to Japan,
Speaker 4: like various people have been witnessed to this, the first
Speaker 4: thing I do is go to a seven eleven and
Speaker 4: buy about ten of those and buy like coffees and
Speaker 4: stock up my entire like Fredge and I'm good.
Speaker 1: There's the biggest culture shock when I went to Japan
Speaker 1: having lived in America my entire life and thinking of
Speaker 1: seven elevens is these really shitty city places like have
Speaker 1: really bad like you'd never get food from a seven
Speaker 1: eleven unless you were on a road trip and that
Speaker 1: was the only.
Speaker 3: Thing you could possibly find.
Speaker 1: And then going to Japan and it's like, wow, I
Speaker 1: just bought everything here and all of it is so good.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Well that's the thing is, like, you know, anywhere in America,
Speaker 5: they've probably got like those like monthly like crates where
Speaker 5: it's just someone going into a seven eleven in Japan,
Speaker 5: empty into a box, charging an American like eighty five
Speaker 5: bucks for it and.
Speaker 2: Be like, there you go, this is Japan box luke crate.
Speaker 6: There you go.
Speaker 2: But yeah, man, I've I've I've fallen in love with
Speaker 2: it completely.
Speaker 3: You've also been playing through the Uncharted or watching your
Speaker 3: partner play through and Charted?
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, I I watched my My partner's a tattoo artist,
Speaker 5: and obviously, like with Lockdown, she can't tattoo. So in
Speaker 5: Lockdown one, she got obsessed and played through the witcher
Speaker 5: three because it was on game Pass, and this time
Speaker 5: I was like, good game. I was like, and now
Speaker 5: it's like a favorite game. Now which of three is
Speaker 5: by far your favorite game? Which is amazing, And now
Speaker 5: it was like I kind of wanted something to play through,
Speaker 5: and I was like, well, the it is like some
Speaker 5: of my favorite games.
Speaker 2: You should play through those like and the.
Speaker 5: First I guess the first two are quite yanky, So
Speaker 5: I said, like, bang them down to easy for the
Speaker 5: first two just so you can get through it, because
Speaker 5: they do feel quite old even we were playing through
Speaker 5: like the Nathan Drake collection, which is like, I think
Speaker 5: it's blue point, isn't it? Did those so like they know,
Speaker 5: but it's still they still feels quite old. So she'd
Speaker 5: like banged down to easy. Did both of those in
Speaker 5: a day and then a day each she went all right,
Speaker 5: I was like damn, and then did I think and
Speaker 5: charted three and two sittings, and then the charted four
Speaker 5: in two sittings, which.
Speaker 6: Is I've never been prouder.
Speaker 2: It was like a week ago and now they're done.
Speaker 2: They're done and dusted. But it's been awesome.
Speaker 6: Oh did she play Lost Legacy?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: No, no, no, get on Lost Legacy fantastic.
Speaker 5: I've never played Lost Legacy, and I love the.
Speaker 6: It's a little one.
Speaker 1: But if I'd say it's the best one, but it's
Speaker 1: second best for me, maybe I.
Speaker 6: Think it's like it's I think it's fantastic.
Speaker 4: I think it's way tight as an experience, and I
Speaker 4: think it's good.
Speaker 3: I agree with that.
Speaker 4: It's a good game to play after you're done with
Speaker 4: all of them, because you're like, all right, that's enough
Speaker 4: of you, Drake. Relax.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Chill, I cannot stand Chloe and I can't, and
Speaker 7: I hate Chloe.
Speaker 2: I hate That's why I've never played like.
Speaker 6: She's listen, Claudia Black. It's an incredible maybe it's honestly
Speaker 6: because the way that the two of them chat it
Speaker 6: is like how women chat. It's very good.
Speaker 5: I see like loads of people say it's their favorite uncharted,
Speaker 5: which I was always thinking, like, it's not just something
Speaker 5: you're saying for the likes. You're just like, oh, my
Speaker 5: favorite chart, it's actually the one with two women, so
Speaker 5: shame on.
Speaker 4: You think it's the PSP one.
Speaker 5: So yeah, that was a banger though, to be fair,
Speaker 5: that's good.
Speaker 2: No, but yeah, so yeah, I've got it.
Speaker 4: I should play it.
Speaker 6: You should give it, give it a bashbe you should.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean like you're watching Clara play, maybe just
Speaker 4: watch her player.
Speaker 2: Well, she hates Chloe as much as I do.
Speaker 6: So well, if you've got it, if you've got give it.
Speaker 4: The thing is like in that that specific game, Nadine
Speaker 4: hates Chloe as well, so so there's that kind of dynamic.
Speaker 4: So you're like, you'll probably be like, but there's like
Speaker 4: an arc to them. So it's good.
Speaker 5: It's been interesting like watching someone play through those in
Speaker 5: such like a concentrated way because I think about like
Speaker 5: that they were, like I was into them when they
Speaker 5: first came out, but actually watching someone binge for and
Speaker 5: Charge is pretty wild man. But yeah, I think it's
Speaker 5: been quite a nice thing to play through when we
Speaker 5: can't actually go anywhere because they go a lot of
Speaker 5: places in those games.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I traveled the world.
Speaker 5: Yeah exactly, That's been quite fun to play. But I
Speaker 5: think like, yeah, I'm definitely I'm gonna I'm gonna go
Speaker 5: back and play three and four for sure, and then
Speaker 5: maybe go on to Lost Legacy afterwards.
Speaker 2: Who knows. Well, you guys have kind of convinced me.
Speaker 6: I treat yourself.
Speaker 1: It's short at least, but anyway, we should be moving
Speaker 1: on to topics for this week. All right, and we
Speaker 1: are back with topics. So the first thing here is
Speaker 1: Cyberpunk multiplayer leaks. We're not gonna go over that in
Speaker 1: this podcast because Lucy myself and John Luke talked at
Speaker 1: length about it on our Cyberpunk Update show thing I Guess,
Speaker 1: which should be live now or soon. So if you
Speaker 1: want to hear about the leaks what our take is
Speaker 1: on them, make.
Speaker 3: Sure to check that out. But we've got a lot
Speaker 3: of big news.
Speaker 1: This is basically like, I don't know, it feels like
Speaker 1: E three with all these games licensed.
Speaker 6: Game a clock, Actually, yeah, we don't have it on here,
Speaker 6: but Hogwarts Legacy or whatever the hell it's called in
Speaker 6: licensed game news or whatever. I did see a very
Speaker 6: very good take where someone said that Warner Brothers must
Speaker 6: be shitting themselves because what is JK. Rowling going to
Speaker 6: do to further damage that brand? But take what time
Speaker 6: you need port Key Games. I'm still so very conflicted
Speaker 6: about whether or not I'm going to play that one.
Speaker 2: I'll be all right, I don't need to in my life.
Speaker 1: Speaking of games, though, that probably won't be out for
Speaker 1: a while though. This new Indiana Jane Indiana Indiana Jones
Speaker 1: game announced is being published by Bethesda, developed by Machine Games,
Speaker 1: and the executive producer is none other than God Howard,
Speaker 1: who I thought would be pretty busy tell me lies tell.
Speaker 4: But yeah.
Speaker 1: They followed it up with the announcement being like, yeah,
Speaker 1: this game is a ways out, so be patient. But still,
Speaker 1: this is exciting news for me, I'm sure.
Speaker 4: Many other people that I am.
Speaker 3: As a as a fan of Todd Howard, I'm very
Speaker 3: excited no, but just like you know, Indiana Jones.
Speaker 1: I've been very into for my entire life. I love
Speaker 1: the Indiana Jones movies, and not the fourth one except
Speaker 1: learning that Andrew goldfarb friend of the show.
Speaker 2: Is it you can see him incredibly amazing.
Speaker 3: Yeah that makes me, That makes me like it a
Speaker 3: little bit more.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he looks excited to be in that movie. Yeah,
Speaker 4: that's gotta respect that movie.
Speaker 6: I'm just waning you know that. Andrew Goldfub texted Tam
Speaker 6: and I while we were recording this podcast to show
Speaker 6: pictures from twelve years ago when he was an extra
Speaker 6: on the set of Shell and he's dressed like a
Speaker 6: like a British policeman.
Speaker 2: A bobby.
Speaker 6: He's a Bobby on the beat.
Speaker 4: Andrew Goldfob is like in an absurd amount of movies.
Speaker 5: This could be live. I'm pretty sure this is right.
Speaker 5: But I'm pretty sure he owns that costume because or
Speaker 5: he told because I remember him tell me a story before.
Speaker 5: It was basically like if you if you decide to, like,
Speaker 5: you know, really invest in a Bobby on the beat
Speaker 5: like ninety you know, eighteen hundreds or seventeen hundreds whatever,
Speaker 5: it is, like costume that can go on like your
Speaker 5: you know, extras CV. So when someone is looking for
Speaker 5: an extra they're like, oh, we need someone to play
Speaker 5: like a Bobby in Sherlock Holmes's time. They'll look it
Speaker 5: up and be like, Oh, Andrew Gofub he's this tour
Speaker 5: and he has a Bobby on like thing, which is
Speaker 5: really funny. So I think he actually owns that.
Speaker 6: I hope he does. I hope he just has a
Speaker 6: closet like he opens up extra wordrobes.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I like, I'm super excited for this Indiana Jones
Speaker 4: game as well, Like I'm not not joke bounce aside.
Speaker 4: Like knowing that Todd Howard is involved means like it's
Speaker 4: they're giving it the attention. I mean machine games, amazing studio,
Speaker 4: last few Wolfing sign games, generally high quality. Super excited.
Speaker 4: We've got an article up on Games for h that
Speaker 4: Phil Hornshall roll which was basically like how how you
Speaker 4: how he thinks they could do it right? And then
Speaker 4: the article basically is like, don't forget this. This character
Speaker 4: can't shoot loads of people, he can't fight loads of people,
Speaker 4: and his power is he's resourceful and smart, not a
Speaker 4: killing machine. Yeah, So I hope they like pay attention
Speaker 4: to that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely, I think that's the thing is like I
Speaker 5: love Indiana Jones, but I love he's a bumbling idiot.
Speaker 5: Like I know, he's super smart and he's a professor,
Speaker 5: but everything that we like about Indiana Jones is like
Speaker 5: similar in a way to Unchied, where like, you know,
Speaker 5: Nate is falling off stuff, Indiana Jones fall lost stuff.
Speaker 5: But then Nate picks up a shotgun and suddenly is
Speaker 5: a killing machine and he's really good at killing people,
Speaker 5: whereas and obviously these guys do Wolfing starting, so I
Speaker 5: hope it's not. But then at the same time, like
Speaker 5: the people who who made thoughts are now making fables,
Speaker 5: So it's like just because you make one type of
Speaker 5: game doesn't mean necessarily that's the type of game you're
Speaker 5: always going to have to make. Like, yeah, these guys
Speaker 5: made Moan Size, it's not like, okay, make Wolfing Stein.
Speaker 2: But within the other Jones.
Speaker 4: Gorilla went from kill Zone to Horizons, So there you go.
Speaker 4: It's do I hope that I hope that they keep
Speaker 4: the like the the hot for history character element of
Speaker 4: his character where he just he just likes history and
Speaker 4: wants to get relics and stick them in a museum. Yeah,
Speaker 4: because that's what he's all about.
Speaker 3: Do you guys remember that canceled Indiana Jones game that
Speaker 3: I think was supposed to come out around the like
Speaker 3: beginning of the three sixties. I forget what fake.
Speaker 6: Something like that Talentis came out on like we or something.
Speaker 6: There was meant to be a different Versionstaff of Kings.
Speaker 4: I think it was Stuff of Kings or it was
Speaker 4: like three six area.
Speaker 1: That was like the last big budget Indiana Jones game
Speaker 1: I can think of, and it didn't even make it
Speaker 1: out the door. So I'm super curious to see what's
Speaker 1: changed since then. I don't know if you guys played
Speaker 1: any of like the old old PS two Xbox.
Speaker 3: Indiana Jones games, but they were all like pretty bad.
Speaker 6: Oh Figerabytelindes did come out, yees. Staff of Kings was
Speaker 6: the one that got canned.
Speaker 4: Did it get candled? Did it come out? I think
Speaker 4: it might actually came out, you know, there was there
Speaker 4: was a Staff.
Speaker 3: Of Kings I don't think so.
Speaker 6: And Stepha Kings came out for we PS two DS
Speaker 6: and PSP in two thousand and nine.
Speaker 4: Maybe there was like a three okay.
Speaker 6: But maybe there was a three sixty.
Speaker 4: There was a Canda version, Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: In two thousand and five, lucas I announced the new
Speaker 1: Indiana Jones game for an next gen consoles. Originally scheduled
Speaker 1: for release in two thousand and seven, the game so
Speaker 1: constant delays as a result of internal.
Speaker 3: Struggles due to severe quality issues, it was canceled in
Speaker 3: two thousand and nine. Hm hm, but yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm excited to see what they do with it, because, like,
Speaker 1: like we've been saying, like Wolfenstein is game I really like,
Speaker 1: but not a game that not a style that would
Speaker 1: translate well to Indiana Jones. But like you guys said,
Speaker 1: like Machine Games is clearly a talented studio. I'm hoping
Speaker 1: they can do something really unique with it because i'd
Speaker 1: like to see that character shine I guess, because you
Speaker 1: know recently has been down on his luck.
Speaker 2: I guess.
Speaker 6: I wonder if they're gonna get I mean, if they
Speaker 6: would even bother getting Harrison in to voice him.
Speaker 4: Nah, I doubt it.
Speaker 1: I love Harrison Ford, but I in a seventies yeah
Speaker 1: you know who. I remember watching Blade Runner twenty forty
Speaker 1: seven and I was like, wow, he actually like acted
Speaker 1: this time.
Speaker 3: He hasn't acted in a while.
Speaker 6: I'm just going to say this before like if we're
Speaker 6: gonna be on but because I want to manifest this
Speaker 6: in twenty twenty one. So you know the conversation that
Speaker 6: Todd Howard had with his leatherbound books and his big
Speaker 6: bookcase from a while ago, and everyone is now going
Speaker 6: back and realizing that he had the Ark at the
Speaker 6: Continent behind him, someone pointing out mm designs uk Jay
Speaker 6: Armstrong pointed out to me on Twitter today, then he
Speaker 6: also had a copy.
Speaker 5: Of slug that guys are big in the RKG community,
Speaker 5: just saying if it's something good, great, he's part. If
Speaker 5: it's something racist, I don't know who that guy is.
Speaker 6: I remember I remember seeing this at the time, that
Speaker 6: he had a copy of Lord of the Rings behind him.
Speaker 6: And I'm manifesting this because Arcane Austin. There was a
Speaker 6: LinkedIn thing the other day that one of their senior
Speaker 6: artists is working on a fantasy game for Unreal Engine
Speaker 6: and everyone is like, oh, Dishonored three, Dishonded three, And
Speaker 6: I'm like, there is a one billion dollar like second
Speaker 6: Age TV show being made at Amazon and the reason
Speaker 6: that Amazon's making it is because Warner Brothers didn't have
Speaker 6: the rights to the Silmarillion, Like, please imagine, imagine like
Speaker 6: something so different for Lord of the Rings games, Like
Speaker 6: I love Shadow of War Shadow Modo, and I can't
Speaker 6: wait to see what they do next.
Speaker 4: He's except for the Golham game. Thank you?
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, Golham game. Well, I'm sure it's good. Gollum
Speaker 6: has never been a character that I've particularly enjoyed, but.
Speaker 4: Hard relate to.
Speaker 6: I just just like, just imagine.
Speaker 4: I think, like you've you've convinced me, so I'm on board.
Speaker 2: I'm up for this.
Speaker 4: And like Arcane doing Lord of the Rings, holy shit,
Speaker 4: that would be incredible.
Speaker 6: But like and if it was, if it wasn't Third
Speaker 6: Age ship, if it was like super early on, imagine
Speaker 6: if you were. I don't know, Like I struggle to
Speaker 6: see how a Lord of the Rings game, Like what
Speaker 6: who you would play as in a first person Lord
Speaker 6: of the Rings game? Like, because I mean I think Arcane,
Speaker 6: my head obviously first goes to dish it. I'm like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 6: who would have powers?
Speaker 2: And I guess it doesn't have to be like the
Speaker 2: first person thing either, I don't know.
Speaker 6: Yeah, like if you played a numinor.
Speaker 2: Like or which one is?
Speaker 5: That was that the little the little ones with the
Speaker 5: big feet.
Speaker 6: Don't do.
Speaker 2: Second breakfast, Love it Potatoes.
Speaker 1: That's all I have to say on this is that
Speaker 1: if I ever become the creative director of anything, I'm
Speaker 1: just going to film my bookcase with a bunch of
Speaker 1: random and like just occasionally like kind of oh what,
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 5: I was literally thinking as I was getting ready for
Speaker 5: this podcast, I was like, because I saw the Todd
Speaker 5: Howard thing just before, I was like, what would be
Speaker 5: really funny is to make a bunch of go back
Speaker 5: through really old zoom from like last year and have like,
Speaker 5: oh do you see Phil Spencer's thing and just like
Speaker 5: put just like random ship in the background, like maybe
Speaker 5: it means they're going to be making this neck like
Speaker 5: people will pick up on.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I mean he also has in the background like an
Speaker 6: R two.
Speaker 5: And because he's a fucking nerd, of course he's got
Speaker 5: I'm like all of us house.
Speaker 6: Yeah, he's got a little globe.
Speaker 4: I don't know if you know he's.
Speaker 6: Got printers this printer game you're making.
Speaker 4: I would like to officially reveal that I am making
Speaker 4: an Akira game. I was actually thinking, like, who could
Speaker 4: if they were not getting Harrison Ford in, who could
Speaker 4: they get to do Indiana Jones and Ice No? I
Speaker 4: submit absolutely not Like I like Nolan North and Tray
Speaker 4: Baker are great, but like this guy who was in
Speaker 4: Batman Telltale series called Anthony Ingruber, who is amazing, Like
Speaker 4: he's really really good. He did, but like the guy,
Speaker 4: he's a huge Harrison Ford fan and he has done
Speaker 4: like so much like Indiana Jones impression stuff, Indiana Depression stuff.
Speaker 2: That's how he is.
Speaker 4: Nerve. He yeah, he was. If you're listening hard, If
Speaker 4: you're listening hard, we know you're listening Anthony and grub
Speaker 4: perfect for it, perfect for Indiana Jones.
Speaker 6: His Twitter picture is literally a picture of him with
Speaker 6: Harrison Ford.
Speaker 4: I think I'm going to start a Twitter campaign to
Speaker 4: get him because also like I I've like, we've I've
Speaker 4: met him a couple of times, like really fortunate to run.
Speaker 4: I ran into him at what do you call it?
Speaker 4: A games com? It was like and Lucy, you were
Speaker 4: there as well. You kind of showed up after and
Speaker 4: the thing is like it wasn't a big moment because
Speaker 4: he just looks like a random person, and like he
Speaker 4: was in the Telltale game as Joker because Telltale found
Speaker 4: him doing Joker impressions on YouTube, and like I remember
Speaker 4: talking to him at games comp. He was like, I
Speaker 4: have no idea what's going on. I I this is
Speaker 4: like a new world for me, and like I love
Speaker 4: Batman that kind of stuff, and I love games. But
Speaker 4: like he looked like he was like a fish out
Speaker 4: of all at games com. So like he seems to
Speaker 4: be a nice, wholesome dude as well.
Speaker 5: He used to come up on like Cooper and I
Speaker 5: used to do this Star Wars podcast for IGN called
Speaker 5: Rebel Bass, and he used to come up all the
Speaker 5: time because obviously, like before we even knew any of
Speaker 5: these shows or anything was happening, it was like, oh,
Speaker 5: who could play the young Indiana Jones and stuff? And
Speaker 5: he plays a young Harrison Ford in a movie called
Speaker 5: The Age of Adeline because because he got literally that
Speaker 5: was off the back of him doing all these random
Speaker 5: YouTube video that went viral of him doing impressions of
Speaker 5: Harrison Ford.
Speaker 2: So that is why, yeah, get him in, get him in,
Speaker 2: get him in, get him in.
Speaker 4: All right.
Speaker 3: Next up, we've got the new Star Wars game. Which
Speaker 3: just got announced in open world Star Wars game.
Speaker 1: Published by Ubisoft developed by Massive, which should be interesting.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I feel less passionate about Star Wars
Speaker 1: than I do about Indiana Jones.
Speaker 4: So I really hope that they release a trailer or
Speaker 4: a teaser for that game where it is a shot
Speaker 4: for shot remake of the Division one where they close
Speaker 4: the door. But it's just like a speed at all
Speaker 4: Snowdrop Engine. Star Wars coming soon.
Speaker 5: I'm really my favorite thing, Like this is the one
Speaker 5: I'm this is the thing I'm most excited about because
Speaker 5: I love everything about a Division except for the Division,
Speaker 5: and like the the game is brilliant, Like the game
Speaker 5: is so much fun to play, Like we did we
Speaker 5: played through all the Division two in Lockdown one just
Speaker 5: as like really as an excuse just to get together
Speaker 5: and make some funny stuff and we live stream there.
Speaker 5: But like I love the game and I love everything
Speaker 5: about it, Like I kind of like like the all
Speaker 5: the systems that they have a place of great, all
Speaker 5: the set in and the characters and.
Speaker 2: Stuff is just so crap.
Speaker 5: It's so crap, and I don't care about any of it.
Speaker 5: And I feel like I know, you know, I just
Speaker 5: I couldn't tell you the story. I don't care about
Speaker 5: what Black Friday was in the Division. I don't know
Speaker 5: anything about the virus or anything. But the game feels
Speaker 5: fucking good to play, and I feel like, Okay, if
Speaker 5: you go right, you guys, you don't go worry about
Speaker 5: it because it's just going to be Star Wars, right,
Speaker 5: but make it like a Division, but it's Star Wars.
Speaker 4: Do that.
Speaker 2: I think I'm excited about that.
Speaker 4: We had We had like two we had like two
Speaker 4: hot gaming sessions where Cardy Lucy and I tried to
Speaker 4: play the Division and we like bounced off so on.
Speaker 6: We tried Destiny to tried the Division.
Speaker 4: The original Division, and a lot of two. But like in.
Speaker 3: I was just like, all, it's not do do you
Speaker 3: guys think that this Star Wars game would be in
Speaker 3: a similar style and Division like a loot shoot or
Speaker 3: do you think it would be.
Speaker 6: Well, yeah, let's not forget that are also making an
Speaker 6: Avatar game. Yeah, so and the Division three I think
Speaker 6: could be anything.
Speaker 4: No, No, they are a massive studio. I guess I'm
Speaker 4: sorry they aren't making Division three. I was thinking about
Speaker 4: Machine Games making Wolfenstein three at the same time, as
Speaker 4: Indiana Jones. But yeah, I think it's going to be
Speaker 4: because like maybe I'm reading too much into it, but
Speaker 4: you know, the statement was this is part of a
Speaker 4: long term agreement with or like a partnership with Lucas
Speaker 4: Games Games. So I imagine that there is going to
Speaker 4: be some element of coming back for it, and they've
Speaker 4: got a taste for it from Battlefront. I bet you
Speaker 4: somewhere that like Disney and Lucas execs are like, yeah,
Speaker 4: we like it when they keep giving us money, except
Speaker 4: can you make sure that this time you don't biffit out?
Speaker 6: Well, Ea tweeted like tick, we love Star Wars. Tick
Speaker 6: we look forward to continuing our partnership with Lucasfilm Games.
Speaker 6: Tick was making more Star Wars games and Tick BD
Speaker 6: one is still the curest I feel like pure ship.
Speaker 2: I just googled that.
Speaker 5: I was just looking at like, oh, I'll just look
Speaker 5: at some stuff about Ubisoft game just in case more
Speaker 5: information that I didn't know as being a thing. And
Speaker 5: I saw a headline that I was like, oh for Fox,
Speaker 5: say shut up. I wonder what games website that is.
Speaker 5: It's not GameSpot, it's just Star Wars dot com. It
Speaker 5: was the headlines Lucasfilm Games hits light speed towards the Future,
Speaker 5: and in my head I was like, shut the funk up,
Speaker 5: what the hell?
Speaker 2: And I was like, oh no, it's Star Wars dot com.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 4: I mean it doesn't make it. It's strong with.
Speaker 5: It doesn't make it any better, but still you know
Speaker 5: they but yeah, like I.
Speaker 4: Kind of machine games has the high ground.
Speaker 2: Christ alive?
Speaker 3: All right, Well, let's let's move on to listener questions.
Speaker 3: All right, we're back with listener questions.
Speaker 1: Remember, if you've got any questions for us, you can
Speaker 1: email us at after Dark Podcast at GameSpot dot com.
Speaker 1: I've been getting a lot of emails lately, mostly because
Speaker 1: I think a lot of those questions go right to
Speaker 1: our discord. So if you want to join our discord,
Speaker 1: feel free to DM myself and I will get you
Speaker 1: in there as soon as I can. But with that said, Lucy,
Speaker 1: do you want to read the first question?
Speaker 3: Here?
Speaker 2: Is?
Speaker 3: This is a long one.
Speaker 6: Okay, this is also like this Yeah, this use name
Speaker 6: is like I love it, but it's also peak like
Speaker 6: three sixty lait speak sixty game attack.
Speaker 1: I actually cut out part of it because part of
Speaker 1: the username because it was like switch id, Xbox Live account, PSN.
Speaker 4: Is it so?
Speaker 6: I guess it's rocket Scientist, but like, oh scientist, that's
Speaker 6: what it is.
Speaker 4: I know what it was.
Speaker 6: But like with fives and threes and zeros, which, to
Speaker 6: be fair, must be an absolute pain in the ass
Speaker 6: to type when you're typing on your on your console.
Speaker 6: But I do love the fact that it works so well.
Speaker 6: Not a lot of my I r L friends have consoles,
Speaker 6: but they do have phones, so we play almost every
Speaker 6: day Call of Duty Mobile Battle Royal and it's fun.
Speaker 6: I actually like it so much more than war Zone
Speaker 6: and PUBG. So my question is do you feel mobile
Speaker 6: gaming non console are you not switched doesn't get reported
Speaker 6: on in the mass media as much as console gaming?
Speaker 6: Why do you think that is? Shouldn't companies focus on
Speaker 6: it more due to the huge install base that's out
Speaker 6: there that is untapped potential? Also, do you I'm sorry,
Speaker 6: I'm hitting puberty. Also do you think x cloud and
Speaker 6: Stadia address this need.
Speaker 3: To more? You might have a better answer for this.
Speaker 3: Since you've been running news.
Speaker 2: You really dropped The tricky thing is good boy.
Speaker 4: The tricky thing is there's various factors that plays into
Speaker 4: mainstream coverage of a game mobile game, specifically for a
Speaker 4: site like us, we have a heritage history and our
Speaker 4: foundation is in console PC gamings, the stuff that you
Speaker 4: would traditionally lump under hardcore, which is a you know,
Speaker 4: a shitty term that I don't believe in, but like
Speaker 4: it's how people understand it. So a lot of our
Speaker 4: kind of approach and our the way we've come up
Speaker 4: and the way we're structured to kind of cover is
Speaker 4: focused around that stuff, and a lot of our interests
Speaker 4: around that stuff as well. That's not to say we
Speaker 4: don't touch mobile games. We do touch mobile games, like
Speaker 4: we either indie games that we've tried many times to
Speaker 4: do like indie games coverage on mobile and that kind
Speaker 4: of stuff. The problem is it doesn't really land, it
Speaker 4: doesn't really stick the audience, our audience isn't really super
Speaker 4: into it, and not just our audience, the audience at
Speaker 4: large gaming audience generally it's harder to get traction with them.
Speaker 4: And this might be oversimplifying, and if I'm wrong in this,
Speaker 4: it's you know, I apologize, but like, for the most part,
Speaker 4: people who play mobile games aren't usually the people who
Speaker 4: are looking for up to date news and coverage on
Speaker 4: mobile games. They just play the games, and then I'm
Speaker 4: the same way, where like I don't think about what's
Speaker 4: what's you know, what's coming up next for Peggle or
Speaker 4: what's coming up next I think, I mean, I think
Speaker 4: different platforms over the last two weeks.
Speaker 5: It's like maybe they're not like as engrossed in like
Speaker 5: games culture, Like video games on their phone is like
Speaker 5: a means to an end.
Speaker 2: It's just like a little bit of fun.
Speaker 5: So maybe they are exactly ingrained in their culture as
Speaker 5: like oh, I'm going to look for the you know,
Speaker 5: a review of the next big mobile game coming out,
Speaker 5: and maybe.
Speaker 4: Exactly and yeah, and like the way they consume games
Speaker 4: is differently like things mobile games exist in in like
Speaker 4: in the background for them, so things like even things
Speaker 4: like oh, yeah, you know, like yeah said, is like
Speaker 4: getting excited about the next mobile game doesn't really matter
Speaker 4: like for for like patches and updates and that kind
Speaker 4: of stuff because of the way more moile phones work.
Speaker 4: Usually it's just all done in the background, so you
Speaker 4: don't really know what's going on until you open it
Speaker 4: and you're like, oh, it's updated into something else. Games
Speaker 4: like Battle Royal, games like Call of Duty Mobile, Fortnite.
Speaker 4: They are kind of like in a middle ground, but
Speaker 4: when you're engaged with those games, you usually know everything
Speaker 4: that's happening at any moment, Like no one's being surprised
Speaker 4: by a Fortnite update. No one's being surprised by a
Speaker 4: Call of Duty Mobile update. Whether that's because their friends
Speaker 4: are talking about it, whether that's because they have niche
Speaker 4: communities in like Reddit or discord, or whether it's because
Speaker 4: and more and more these days, games are better about this.
Speaker 4: They surface that stuff in the game. Like when you're
Speaker 4: playing a game, it will tell you there's a patch
Speaker 4: coming out or there's no event happening, and it's not
Speaker 4: always just like a piece of text. It's like, oh no,
Speaker 4: a nuclear silo has opened in Call of Duty, and
Speaker 4: that's when you know it's going to happen. Oh look,
Speaker 4: Travis Scott is one million feet in Fortnite, and also
Speaker 4: Galactus is here and the Avengers have shown up. But
Speaker 4: that's how you know. So I think that it's it's
Speaker 4: because of those things a lot, along with a bunch
Speaker 4: of other things. But we do try and focus on
Speaker 4: mobile games. I mean, you know, we had a Song
Speaker 4: of Bloom for example, is one that I played last
Speaker 4: year and I evangelized, and I know we included it
Speaker 4: in one of our Game of the year right ups.
Speaker 4: I think Chris Peira wrote about it, which is a
Speaker 4: mobile game. You know. Gensian Impact is a game that
Speaker 4: we covered, but not from a mobile specific perspective. But
Speaker 4: we always try to tell people like, hey, this is
Speaker 4: also on mobile and it's really good against an Impact.
Speaker 4: Rory Power's Game of the Year for our Cage. He's
Speaker 4: a shill for that game, so loves it. But like
Speaker 4: there are we do cover mobile games, we just don't
Speaker 4: make it a massive focus because our audience isn't super
Speaker 4: up for it and it's hard to invest resources into
Speaker 4: it knowing that it's going to get Also, there's one
Speaker 4: trillion mobile games. Of them are absolutely hot dog shit,
Speaker 4: refried beans bollocks, Like the App Store is a and
Speaker 4: the Google play Store is a nightmare hellscape.
Speaker 6: Of games unless unless you get Apple Arcade, which is
Speaker 6: like the quality filter.
Speaker 4: I suppose, yeah, but it's also yeah, it's five bucks
Speaker 4: and months, and like games like you know, they have
Speaker 4: that barrier now, like you can't tell tell someone, oh,
Speaker 4: you can check this game. That's what The thing I
Speaker 4: love about Apple Arcade is it curates games, curates games.
Speaker 4: The thing I hate about it is I have to
Speaker 4: subscribe to it, right if I just want that one game?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, there's like.
Speaker 6: One Apple Arcade game called Patent, which I love, and
Speaker 6: I had Apple Arcade for a few months, and then
Speaker 6: I realized that Patent was the only game I played
Speaker 6: on it. Yeah, and now a fun thing we discovered
Speaker 6: the other day is that I have Apple TV for
Speaker 6: a year because I bought fun.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 6: You can share your subscriptions with a family. So now
Speaker 6: all like the girls that I get together with once
Speaker 6: a week to watch stuff are all in my family,
Speaker 6: and one of them I have Apple Fitness as well,
Speaker 6: so they all get access to that. And then Callie's
Speaker 6: in there and she has access to Apple Arcade, so
Speaker 6: we all get that. So literally, the only thing I've
Speaker 6: downloaded is Patent.
Speaker 2: It looks lovely just looking at it.
Speaker 4: It's really good.
Speaker 6: It's lovely.
Speaker 4: I did the same thing for Patent and Grindstone. Those
Speaker 4: were the only two things I played. I did not care.
Speaker 4: I downloaded all the games and I'll be like, I'll
Speaker 4: try these, but I just did it because it I
Speaker 4: was Grindstones on Switch and now Grindstounds. I canceled it
Speaker 4: once I'd finished Pattern and I was done with Pan,
Speaker 4: and then like was I canceled it? When they announced
Speaker 4: Grindstone for Switch, I was like, thank God, no reason
Speaker 4: to go back. Yeah, I mean I was gonna say.
Speaker 1: I feel like the press cycle for a lot of
Speaker 1: mobile games too, is very different from mainstream games. And
Speaker 1: when you think about it, a lot of our coverage
Speaker 1: comes from, i mean, covering games that are aren't out
Speaker 1: yet that will be out soon. And I feel like
Speaker 1: that kind of coverage just lands differently on mobile games
Speaker 1: that some casessed to.
Speaker 6: Be more in line with like traditional coverage, Like certainly
Speaker 6: twenty twelve twenty thirteen, when you had like Chilingo, which
Speaker 6: was EA's mobile game label, you had PopCap kind of
Speaker 6: even even Square Next when they were doing like Larcraft
Speaker 6: Go and hit Man Go, like they would treat those.
Speaker 2: As games.
Speaker 6: Like yeah, games, but yeah, and you would you would
Speaker 6: have the events and do the hands on and stuff.
Speaker 6: But then at the same time they realized that if
Speaker 6: you just make those single player games and their micro transactions,
Speaker 6: you aren't going to get a lot of money back.
Speaker 6: And then now that's why we have Peggle Blast.
Speaker 4: Having said that, like having said that Entry Impact is
Speaker 4: good on mobile. Bloodstained recently came out on mobile and
Speaker 4: it's decent. If you wanted chess, learning Chess as Blessing
Speaker 4: and Abby from Ja one would say Doctor Wolf is
Speaker 4: a good game, and if Found is amazing on mobile
Speaker 4: as well. So those are a few games and mobile
Speaker 4: that will be checking out.
Speaker 6: What do you think about x cloud and Stadia Because
Speaker 6: I'm gonna I'm gonna say no, because I was talking.
Speaker 6: I reconnected with a friend of mine from school the
Speaker 6: other day.
Speaker 2: She's big into Stadia, big Stadia influence.
Speaker 6: He's a doctor now, and we were talking about like
Speaker 6: I was saying that I'm building a PC and I'm
Speaker 6: playing cyberpunk and all this stuff, and he's like, oh,
Speaker 6: I want to play cyberpunk, but I don't have anything
Speaker 6: to play on. And I know she had to explain
Speaker 6: to him what Stadia was and he was like, he's
Speaker 6: a medical laptop and he was like, oh, but my
Speaker 6: laptop doesn't have a graphics card. I was like, no, no,
Speaker 6: you don't need one. You just need a screen.
Speaker 2: And he was like no, Like hey, doc, try and
Speaker 2: follow this will you.
Speaker 1: I also think like the thing with x Cloud two
Speaker 1: is that like it's it's a cool idea, but I
Speaker 1: feel like people don't bring their phone around in a
Speaker 1: controller to.
Speaker 3: Play Xbox games like that.
Speaker 1: Like when people play at least this is just my understanding,
Speaker 1: but when people play mobile games, they want just like
Speaker 1: a quick, easy game they can tap on.
Speaker 3: Like I like, I want to try it out.
Speaker 1: I'm super curious to see it's like playing these games
Speaker 1: on my phone. But like, I'm not going to bring
Speaker 1: a controller around. I will say it with me everywhere
Speaker 1: I go.
Speaker 4: I was I was sitting here the other day and
Speaker 4: I was like, just you know, when you do things
Speaker 4: just to do them because you just want you just
Speaker 4: need to.
Speaker 6: Just want to feel something.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you just want to feel something. You just want
Speaker 4: to think about something else. I was sitting literally there,
Speaker 4: yeah there and if my TV is there, and I
Speaker 4: was playing Yakaza on Xbox and then I was like, oh,
Speaker 4: I can I can somehow remote play this. Let's see
Speaker 4: what happens using the smart the Xbox app. I was like, oh,
Speaker 4: it says remote player, I wonder what happens, And like
Speaker 4: within a minute I had connected Xbox controllers the modern
Speaker 4: ones anyway, just connect to your iPhone, Like I had
Speaker 4: no idea that was possible. They just connect. So like
Speaker 4: I was playing Yakaza on my iPhone with an Xbox
Speaker 4: controller and it worked flawlessly, and I was like, that
Speaker 4: is wild, but like that's pretty cool. I was sitting
Speaker 4: in front of my console.
Speaker 5: I think, like with anything that I play, I want
Speaker 5: to play a game that's being designed for that platform specifically,
Speaker 5: and because of their can take advantage of that platform
Speaker 5: during it means like Florence an amazing mobile game that
Speaker 5: was designed to be played on a phone. So when
Speaker 5: I played it on my phone, I was like, oh,
Speaker 5: this has been designed from the beginning with the idea
Speaker 5: that people will be playing this on their phone somewhere.
Speaker 5: And because of that, I mean, I reckon. I'd probably
Speaker 5: put that in my top fifty games. It's such a
Speaker 5: good game, an amazing experience, Whereas like, as you say,
Speaker 5: playing Yakuza on the x Cloud, thing that has not
Speaker 5: been designed to play be played on that. It's been
Speaker 5: designed to be played on a big TV, like and yeah,
Speaker 5: you can play it on that, and you can. Kind
Speaker 5: of it's a decent experience. It's not the way that
Speaker 5: it was designed to be played, though, and I think,
Speaker 5: like with anything like that, even though I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 5: it would be a means to an end. If I
Speaker 5: was stuck in a hotel and I wanted to play something, yes,
Speaker 5: it would make sense to be able to do it then, but.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Like I mean, I got a tablet over Christmas
Speaker 6: and I haven't messed around with it yet, but I'm
Speaker 6: already thinking that, like, hey, next time I'm going to
Speaker 6: be traveling, I don't have to take a console with me.
Speaker 6: I'm going to see if I can. Just like the
Speaker 6: thing is is like I wouldn't play obviously Overwatch or
Speaker 6: anything that requires fast reaction. Now, I think something like
Speaker 6: a Yakaza or Persona would be great for those for
Speaker 6: like traveling next cloud well well no PS remote playing
Speaker 6: as well, which I haven't tried out, so I'm intrigued.
Speaker 6: So I'm gonna mess around with that probably after this. Actually, no,
Speaker 6: I would be working. I will definitely not be messing.
Speaker 5: Around just like the middle of the day. Well time
Speaker 5: is now at lunchtime for you guys.
Speaker 1: And normally this is the last thing we do on
Speaker 1: a Wednesday. Weird, but anyway, we should move on. Next
Speaker 1: one is if After Dark had an official mascot, who
Speaker 1: or what would it be?
Speaker 3: This is from Errol.
Speaker 6: Oh, can it be the bun chan from Yakuza?
Speaker 5: Sure?
Speaker 6: The little bun Chan that it's definitely in Yakuza Zero
Speaker 6: because I spent maybe half an hour. There's a little
Speaker 6: side quest where a little girl asks you to get
Speaker 6: something out of a crane machine and I had dreams
Speaker 6: about that bunch.
Speaker 2: And I'm looking at it right.
Speaker 6: Well, I think it's because I got the wrong one,
Speaker 6: because she explicitly asks for the pink one.
Speaker 4: That's just it's just a really fat bird with a
Speaker 4: hat one. Yeah, yeah, have you seen have you seen
Speaker 4: the image of Marge Simpson holding one? And it says
Speaker 4: I think they're neat.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, that's like one of the first things.
Speaker 4: All right, we've settled that. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The last question here is from Jay Higgins. I posted
Speaker 1: in the discord that you'd be joining us GAVs, and
Speaker 1: this was this was the question. We got best Welsh
Speaker 1: video game character.
Speaker 2: There's not many. This was ones Man Like.
Speaker 1: There's the first thing that ca aimed mind was the
Speaker 1: Welsh character in Red Dead Too, whose name I don't remember,
Speaker 1: but they referred to him as a red al.
Speaker 5: I think it's called like Alwyn Price or something like that. Yeah,
Speaker 5: but I'm pretty sure he is a wrong and it's
Speaker 5: all I could think, Like.
Speaker 2: He tries to rob you and I think, duff you up.
Speaker 2: Well he knock you out or something. It's not great.
Speaker 2: It's not a great representation. I'll be honest. I think, yeah,
Speaker 2: him drippy.
Speaker 5: I guess from Nino Cooney is a big one, because yeah, good,
Speaker 5: that was excellent because it wasn't like it's not set
Speaker 5: in Wales, like it's nothing like that. They've just gone
Speaker 5: the localization team have just gone, oh, who should we
Speaker 5: have a voiceless person? Oh, we're going to bring in
Speaker 5: like he's a very well known Welsh actor. They brought
Speaker 5: in this guy. But then also they obviously the localization
Speaker 5: team worked with him on you know, putting little Welsh
Speaker 5: inflections and stuff like that into it. Like he says
Speaker 5: like butt and munn and stuff like that, which is
Speaker 5: like weird little dialect things, which.
Speaker 2: Is very very cool. So I think he's gonna be
Speaker 2: in it.
Speaker 5: I don't know other than that, Like I just played
Speaker 5: through Made of Scare, which is a horror game all
Speaker 5: set in Wales that everybody should play. I've reckoned it's
Speaker 5: so cheap and it's a lovely little like Outlast. If
Speaker 5: you'd kind of like Outlast, you will like Made of
Speaker 5: Scare because Outlasts, I feel like is good for the
Speaker 5: people who like it, but I feel like it's only
Speaker 5: like a tiny centimeter above those like five Night of
Speaker 5: Freddie games, whereas Made of Scare is actually quite a
Speaker 5: classy game and has this really amazing mechanic which I
Speaker 5: think none of think many people played it, but it's
Speaker 5: made by Wales Interactive, so there's a shitload of wealth
Speaker 5: stuff going on in that game, like Welsh language, Welsh songs,
Speaker 5: and it's lovely.
Speaker 2: It's a lovely little game, that is so I think. Yeah.
Speaker 6: I googled Welsh video game characters and I found this
Speaker 6: article called ig Podcast on ig Podcast represent representation of
Speaker 6: Wales and the Welsh in gaming, so like they mentioned
Speaker 6: like Edward.
Speaker 5: Kenway English as well, that's why.
Speaker 6: But you've got Merrill from dragon Age too, like a
Speaker 6: lot of I mean, this goes back to I don't
Speaker 6: know if it goes back to Tolkien, but certainly, like
Speaker 6: that's the touch point I always think of is.
Speaker 2: Like absolutely, the Elvin.
Speaker 6: Language is taken a lot from Welsh, so in traditional
Speaker 6: high fantasy, like in Dragon Age, in which ad Elvish
Speaker 6: does sound a lot like Welsh. But however, this article
Speaker 6: what about outside software? Are there any Welsh representatives in
Speaker 6: the popular gaming media? There's all blah blah blah Marcus Bear.
Speaker 6: There's also IGN's gap is confident and entertaining. Podcasting and
Speaker 6: video content have certainly left a Welsh imprint on the
Speaker 6: games and film journalism sphere.
Speaker 2: That blog is written by my mum, so Dragon gave
Speaker 2: him Dragon Blog. Yeah, that's the thing. I always I
Speaker 2: feel like Welsh people are do.
Speaker 5: Like I don't know why for some reason, we're not
Speaker 5: thought of in the same way as Irish and Scottish,
Speaker 5: because like Scottish, I feel like Scottish and Irish characters
Speaker 5: just fucking show up in stuff all the time.
Speaker 2: And yeah, all it'll.
Speaker 5: Take is, like, you know, one person at Sony Santa
Speaker 5: Monica or something to be like, hey, you know what,
Speaker 5: We're not going to put a Scottish character in this time,
Speaker 5: We're gonna put a Welsh character in.
Speaker 2: How about that? Like, all it'll take is that, And
Speaker 2: then yeah, there's get in.
Speaker 4: It's the same thing. It's the same thing that happens
Speaker 4: with Pakistani's Indians, Like it's always Indians like, but like
Speaker 4: pakistanis exists too, like we're there, like hello anyone when
Speaker 4: I put in, But it's just not But because you
Speaker 4: can make an Indian sound like an Indian, yeah, to
Speaker 4: make a Pakistani like like an Irish voice or a
Speaker 4: Scottish voice has a distinctness to it, yeah, where as
Speaker 4: a Welsh voice has like a more of like a
Speaker 4: slant to it. Yeah, and like it's like it could
Speaker 4: almost fade away. Yeah if you're like I listened to
Speaker 4: you and it doesn't register as a Welsh accient it
Speaker 4: just registers.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and unfortunately for twelve years, so mine's kind of
Speaker 5: gone a little bit. But your almost really weird is
Speaker 5: when people try and do a Welsh accent badly, it
Speaker 5: actually comes out sounding Indian, Yeah, which is.
Speaker 2: Really odd but really yeah, but I know you mean.
Speaker 4: It's the same thing where it's like you can you
Speaker 4: know what a poo sounds like? Yeah, you don't know
Speaker 4: what a Pakistani.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 5: And I guess, like to be fair, probably Scottish and
Speaker 5: Irish people are watching and playing through video games where
Speaker 5: there's a Scottish and Irish character being like, you're this
Speaker 5: person is obviously not Scottish or Irish, but people who
Speaker 5: arem that will be like, yeah, that's fine because what
Speaker 5: they're doing is a cartoon impression of that dialect, whereas yeah,
Speaker 5: I know what you mean. It's like, maybe there's not
Speaker 5: one of those for Welsh yet.
Speaker 2: But there will be a Lana.
Speaker 4: All right.
Speaker 1: Well that's been episode of seventy six of Games Spot
Speaker 1: After Dark. Thank you so much for joining us. A
Speaker 1: lot of fun that before we go anything we want
Speaker 1: to plug, Lucy, anything you want to plug?
Speaker 6: Ah, watch the Expanse please so I can talk. No
Speaker 6: I Andy Cortez is watching it, but he's at the
Speaker 6: end of season.
Speaker 4: One and I'm like, oh, can you buy Nike trainers please?
Speaker 2: Kellogg's corn flakes. I hear they're pretty good.
Speaker 4: Free plug.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think. The other thing I'm in this week
Speaker 6: is the chat with Jake and John Luke about cyberpunk
Speaker 6: multiplayer and changes we want to see to single player.
Speaker 6: So go watch that YouTube com slash GameSpot. The police
Speaker 6: are coming? Do you hear that coming?
Speaker 4: For me? Another eyse plug? I can hear that doesn't.
Speaker 2: I don't know where it was swatted you.
Speaker 4: Both of you some more about yourself. Yeah, I don't
Speaker 4: really have anything major plug. That article that a Field
Speaker 4: did is up about Indiana Jones if you want to.
Speaker 4: There's been some rumors about g TA six having a
Speaker 4: female protagonist, which are incredibly spurious. I wouldn't be surprised
Speaker 4: if it was true. But we didn't really want to
Speaker 4: write about that. But we had a moment where we're like, oh,
Speaker 4: TDA has had some fun protagonists, like so Alessandro pat
Speaker 4: together a little feature about the kind of like looking
Speaker 4: back at the protagonists through the g TA franchise. Some
Speaker 4: good ones there. Yeah, that's pretty much it. I don't
Speaker 4: really have anything to plug. Maybe rkg GA you can
Speaker 4: plug more of it, but like, watch the resume they're watching,
Speaker 4: and I'm currently watching Kg's Rezi series, which is very
Speaker 4: very fun.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean people are probably sick of hearing my
Speaker 2: voice now.
Speaker 5: So yeah, if you liked any of that, there are
Speaker 5: two better people than me on OURKG that you can
Speaker 5: listen to. Yeah, we've just done RESI three. We've got
Speaker 5: a new show coming out on the twenty ninth, but Yeah,
Speaker 5: Rezi three, I feel like I got a little bit
Speaker 5: of a kick in when it came out, and I
Speaker 5: think unfairly because that game is a lot fun and
Speaker 5: we had a lot of fun playing it. Our show
Speaker 5: is only six episodes long from start to finish, but
Speaker 5: I mean, I feel like we get the best out
Speaker 5: of that by putting up the hardcore mode and getting
Speaker 5: stuck on bosses and stuff like that, which I think
Speaker 5: a lot of people probably don't and maybe didn't play
Speaker 5: in the exact same way as we did. But yeah,
Speaker 5: I feel like Rezi three is a good show. If
Speaker 5: you've never watched any of our stuff, is a good
Speaker 5: one to go in at and then go back through
Speaker 5: the rest of it, hopefully.
Speaker 3: And then I am working on.
Speaker 1: Which your cyberpunk dialogue video that hopefully will be done
Speaker 1: Best Friday. But it's become a lot more ambitious than
Speaker 1: I originally intended. I love those videos though, where you
Speaker 1: go in the living room filming shit good.
Speaker 5: I love those videos though, where you just go, well,
Speaker 5: this is the crap version of it, and this is
Speaker 5: the really ambitious version of it.
Speaker 2: I might as well do that. Do that one.
Speaker 1: I think it comes from just like being stuck in
Speaker 1: the house for so long and filming this making the
Speaker 1: same kind of videos, like, no, there's anything wrong with them,
Speaker 1: but they're all like gameplay with voiceover. And I was like, no,
Speaker 1: I bought all of this camera stuff. I have to
Speaker 1: use it, and I think it will turn pretty.
Speaker 4: Stuck when you get like, oh, you know what a
Speaker 4: fancy a fancy a peanut, but a jelly sandwich. Peanut
Speaker 4: but a gam sandwich. And by the end of it,
Speaker 4: it's got like banana and it's been toasted and it's
Speaker 4: got and you're like, it's a good metaphor.
Speaker 6: It is literally what he does in the forty old
Speaker 1: And we're back on the forty love it all right, Well,
Speaker 1: thank you all so much for listening, and we will
Speaker 1: see again next week, right,