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Speaker 2: eight oh well it's actually now about eight oh nine
Speaker 2: with Boston Globe reporter Dana Gerber. Dana Gerber, Welcome to
Speaker 2: Night's Side. I'm not sure we've had the pleasure of
Speaker 2: your company before. How are you tonight?
Speaker 3: Once before? But I'm not offended, don't worry.
Speaker 2: Well, you know what, and I apologize. I always like
Speaker 2: to welcome people. So now you are a regular as
Speaker 2: far as I'm concerned on Nightside.
Speaker 3: Feels like the firs time.
Speaker 2: Dan, I'm no problem. Thank you so much. And so
Speaker 2: you're right for the Globe and you have written a
Speaker 2: very interesting piece that was. I'm not sure if it's
Speaker 2: in the Globe today. I read the Globe today and
Speaker 2: I'm not sure I saw it or if it's posted today.
Speaker 2: But the piece is who is leaving Massachusetts and why.
Speaker 2: Here's what the report reveals. I'm guessing this is going
Speaker 2: to hit the print version tomorrow morning. Is that correct?
Speaker 3: I believe it was in print today, but you'll have
Speaker 3: to fact check me on that. It was a pretty
Speaker 3: short story, so, oh god, I've.
Speaker 2: Read it, but I didn't read it in the in
Speaker 2: the print version. So the report came out yesterday for
Speaker 2: the Massachu's Budget and Policy sent which, as you say,
Speaker 2: is a progressive think tank. Who's leaving for our beautiful state?
Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's it's a pretty interesting report in that,
Speaker 3: you know, obviously as a progressive thing tank, mass budget
Speaker 3: supported question one which a lot of the listeners might
Speaker 3: know is the millionaire's tax. So they are putting together
Speaker 3: research pretty regularly to indicate that, you know, the millionaires
Speaker 3: tax isn't having the effects folks were worried it might that,
Speaker 3: you know, high earners would be leaving the state. And
Speaker 3: the way they put together these reports this through census
Speaker 3: data I r S data and and similar stuff, and
Speaker 3: its reports sort of indicates the same vat same argument
Speaker 3: that you know, high owners aren't the folks leaving Massachusetts,
Speaker 3: and the highest numbers that's actually working age adults who
Speaker 3: are lower middle income. That was what they found. It
Speaker 3: really bears noting that the data they were looking at
Speaker 3: does not reflect the time period in which the millionaire's
Speaker 3: taxes had taken effect yet, so that those numbers are
Speaker 3: still to come. But so far it seems like, you know,
Speaker 3: it's not there's not a massive exile of the state's
Speaker 3: highest earners. But again, we will see what new numbers
Speaker 3: bear out in the coming months and years.
Speaker 2: Well, for example, you make three points in the article.
Speaker 2: I guess three points that we're made, and it says,
Speaker 2: according to most recent measure the Massachusetts population is still growing.
Speaker 2: So we are up by eighteen thousand year to year
Speaker 2: July first, twenty twenty two to July first, twenty twenty three,
Speaker 2: we're up by a quarter of one percent. I guess
Speaker 2: a quarter percent tick. That is encouraging, but it's also
Speaker 2: paul free compared to the population growth in other states.
Speaker 3: Correct, Yeah, I mean, it's just it's hard to compare
Speaker 3: you know, apples and oranges. Massachusetts has a lot of
Speaker 3: its own quirks. You know, there's it's not as fast
Speaker 3: a growing state as like you said, other states. But
Speaker 3: you know we're still you know, in the black, which
Speaker 3: is which is what you know, politicians and business leaders
Speaker 3: and everyone do look for.
Speaker 2: Oh sure, but we're The point I'm trying to make
Speaker 2: is I think that the migration the states that seem
Speaker 2: to be picking up population and also, by the way,
Speaker 2: picking up seats in congress because as your population grows,
Speaker 2: every ten years, they recalibrate the census around the country
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden you'll see Texas has picked
Speaker 2: up two, you know, two congressional seats, in California has
Speaker 2: lost three congressional seats. And you know, we see that
Speaker 2: every ten years or so. So the people who are
Speaker 2: leading says fifty five percent of the people who left
Speaker 2: between twenty twenty one and twenty twenty two, which I
Speaker 2: guess this is based on prior to the implementation of
Speaker 2: the millionaires tax. We're working age adults twenty six to
Speaker 2: forty five. Those are people who contributing to the tax.
Speaker 2: I would be really worried about them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, it's certainly concerning, and that lines up with
Speaker 3: you know, figures we've reported before that you know, this
Speaker 3: is the group leaving at the highest rate, and that
Speaker 3: you know, it's anyone's guess why that is. It could
Speaker 3: be that, you know, they want to start a family
Speaker 3: and they need a bigger house and really can't afford
Speaker 3: what's available around here. It could be that, you know,
Speaker 3: they want to live closer to family. It's it's hard
Speaker 3: to sort of opining about what's why these folks are leaving.
Speaker 3: But you're absolutely right that, you know, not only for
Speaker 3: the tax base, but for the labor force. You know,
Speaker 3: this is really not the age group you want the
Speaker 3: parting a state.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it says the majority of those leaving are
Speaker 2: not high income earners. That's the point three, which is
Speaker 2: kind of an interesting point. It says about one in
Speaker 2: six of the residents who left Massachusetts between twenty twenty
Speaker 2: one and twenty two, and it's important that's the time
Speaker 2: have incomes exceeding two hundred k. That's not bad, but
Speaker 2: it says, yeah, a larger group, eighty percent had incomes
Speaker 2: below two hundred k. Well, so that was a little
Speaker 2: bit below two hundred k. Yeah, yeah, it's a weird
Speaker 2: it's a weird cutoff they picked. I'd love to know
Speaker 2: what the median income was of the mean income of
Speaker 2: those leaving Massachusetts. They're all contributing if they're working and
Speaker 2: earning money.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it's that's that's a good question. I don't
Speaker 3: have that off the top of my head, but I
Speaker 3: just want to make it clear that the so it's
Speaker 3: of the twenty six to forty five year old who
Speaker 3: are leaving, so that's the only group they're looking at.
Speaker 3: More than eighty percent of those people had incomes below
Speaker 3: two hundred thousands, so that they're looking at a subset
Speaker 3: of a subset.
Speaker 2: No, I get that. But what I'm saying is if
Speaker 2: you're twenty six and you lay twenties and you make
Speaker 2: you make in two hundred k, or if you're in
Speaker 2: your thirties and you're making two hundred k, that's not
Speaker 2: bad coin. I don't know. Yeah, I mean no, it's go.
Speaker 3: Ahead to say no, no, no, I was just gonna
Speaker 3: say it's tough one. You know, two hundred thousand really
Speaker 3: doesn't pack the punch here that it does. And like
Speaker 3: you said, maybe Texas or elsewhere in the country. So
Speaker 3: it's you know, it's the math in Massachusetts isn't always
Speaker 3: the same as the math elsewhere.
Speaker 2: So I get that. But there are parts of the
Speaker 2: state outside the one twenty eighth belt where housing is
Speaker 2: much more reasonable. And of course now we have the
Speaker 2: other development that a lot of people can work from home.
Speaker 2: The zoomsters, if you will. Companies have found out that
Speaker 2: they can have very employable people who don't have to
Speaker 2: trek into the office every day put on the jacket
Speaker 2: and tie. They can do they can do their work
Speaker 2: from home, which is always really you know, there's my
Speaker 2: phone ringing Rob. Get that next guest on the line,
Speaker 2: which anyway, bottom line is it's an interesting study. I'm
Speaker 2: going to look at it more closely. Uh thanks for
Speaker 2: for breaking these studies down, because all too often we
Speaker 2: read about them and and we kind of go past them.
Speaker 2: It did say that the majority of people who are
Speaker 2: leaving Massachusetts, the majority of people who are leaving Massachusetts
Speaker 2: are going to Florida in New Hampshire to look to Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, again, those I just want to say that that's
Speaker 3: it's not the majority, it's the those are the top
Speaker 3: states where people are going so it's, oh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I understand that. But it's but it's not
Speaker 2: like they're going to New York. In California, Yeah, certainly no.
Speaker 3: I mean those those two states have no income tax there. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's it's certainly.
Speaker 2: They're not going. They're not going as they would say
Speaker 2: in New York. They're not not going to go to
Speaker 2: New York in Jersey. They're looking at Florida, and Governors
Speaker 2: Sonunu and Governor DeSantis must be very pleased with with
Speaker 2: with the that that pattern. Anyway, I love the column,
Speaker 2: I love your enthusiasm for your stories, and we got
Speaker 2: to have you back more often. Dana, thank you so
Speaker 2: much for joining us tonight. I really appreciate you.
Speaker 3: Thanks so much for having me.
Speaker 2: Absolutely talk soon when we get back. I think that
Speaker 2: was my next guest calling me on my cell phone,
Speaker 2: but that's a story for another night. In a moment,
Speaker 2: we'll be talking with Amy Laramie. She's the director of
Speaker 2: brand marketing and events from Killington Resort up in Killington,
Speaker 2: New Hampshire. They are about to have a great women's
Speaker 2: ski event on Thanksgiving weekend, So if you're looking to
Speaker 2: spend Thanksgiving in Vermont and go to a great ski event.
Speaker 2: We'll get you all the details coming up with Amy
Speaker 2: Laramie on the other side of this quick commercial break
Speaker 2: here on Nightside. My name's Dan Ray.
Speaker 1: Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Speaker 1: Nightside Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2: Well, I am delighted to welcome Amy Laramie. She is
Speaker 2: at the Killington Ski Resort up in I think all
Speaker 2: of us know Killington Mount and the Killington Ski Resort.
Speaker 2: She's the director of brand Marketing and Events from the
Speaker 2: Killington Resort. And Amy's going to tell us about a
Speaker 2: great event coming up Thanksgiving weekend, the twenty twenty four
Speaker 2: and it's called the Stifle. I hope I pronounced that correctly. Amy,
Speaker 2: Stifle Killington Cup. Tell us about it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you for having me. So it's the Steephel
Speaker 4: Killington Cup.
Speaker 2: Stepel like a George Steeple. Okay, thank you. I was
Speaker 2: thinking of the Eiffel Tower. This this Stiefel. I got it.
Speaker 4: Go ahead, No, that's fine. So it's the eighth year
Speaker 4: we've been hosting this event, and we're very excited to
Speaker 4: have Mikayla Schiffrin, Paula Moltsen, aj Her Nina O'Brien come
Speaker 4: back to Killington for another race this year. Mikhayla Schiffrin
Speaker 4: might be actually getting her historic one hundredth victory at
Speaker 4: Killington when we host this event this year. It all
Speaker 4: depends on how she does in races before comes to Killington.
Speaker 4: But tickets are available and they're on sale. So we
Speaker 4: have general admission tickets available for ten dollars and then
Speaker 4: there's different ticket options if you wanted to do premiere
Speaker 4: Premiere grand stand tickets are just sitting in the grand
Speaker 4: stands as well as VIP tickets.
Speaker 2: You know this is these are women's racers, what sort
Speaker 2: of events? It's obviously all downhill is it's all slalom?
Speaker 2: Tell us, I'm not an expert in skiing. I got
Speaker 2: to be honest with you. I enjoy watching it and
Speaker 2: with the greatest women's skiers, downhill scheme racers in the world,
Speaker 2: I mean, this is going to be a huge success
Speaker 2: for you guys.
Speaker 4: I'm sure, yes, awesome. Over the course of the weekend,
Speaker 4: we have upwards of more than thirty thousand fans visiting
Speaker 4: Killington on the World Cup weekend and we are very
Speaker 4: excited to host this once again. We see giant slalom
Speaker 4: and the slalom events here at Killington.
Speaker 2: And how many women will compete, how many competitors will
Speaker 2: will be trying for this price money.
Speaker 4: We have about one hundred competitors coming to Killington from all.
Speaker 3: Over the world.
Speaker 4: There's about the two countries.
Speaker 2: Yeah, these are professionals skiers who are representing their countries
Speaker 2: in the Olympics. It's like a skiing Olympics, is what
Speaker 2: it sounds like to me, which which is fabulous. Killington.
Speaker 2: You said this is Thanksgiving weekend, and as they said
Speaker 2: earlier tonight, what's better than to spend Thanksgiving in Vermont,
Speaker 2: particularly with family, and then go watch the ski races.
Speaker 2: Is it Saturday Sunday or Friday Saturday Sunday?
Speaker 4: So the races are Friday and Saturday, or sorry, the
Speaker 4: races are Saturday and Sunday. And on Friday we kick
Speaker 4: off the weekend with a athlete, big presentation, fireworks and
Speaker 4: stay tuned because next weekend we plan to announce all
Speaker 4: of our entertainment acts. And so this is more than
Speaker 4: just a ski race, is actually a party over Thanksgiving
Speaker 4: weekend at Killington, and we have some great entertainment acts
Speaker 4: every year that we plan to announce next week.
Speaker 2: Well, that's faculous. Now this is part we need to
Speaker 2: put in some context here. This is part of a
Speaker 2: world tour of these fabulous female skiers. Give us a
Speaker 2: sense as to where the Killington event sits within the
Speaker 2: world tour. Obviously it's early in the ski season, and
Speaker 2: you told me earlier tonight that Killington opens the earliest
Speaker 2: and stays open the latest into the spring because of
Speaker 2: your snowmaking capacity.
Speaker 4: Correct, that's correct. Yes, it's the Audi FIS Ski World
Speaker 4: Cup circuit that this event is on. And we host
Speaker 4: this Thanksgiving weekend and not many East Coast well, I
Speaker 4: should say no other East Coast ski resort could probably
Speaker 4: host this events on Thanksgiving weekend. But we have a
Speaker 4: great snowmaking capacity here at Killington. We have the longest
Speaker 4: season in the East. Many times we're doing multi sport
Speaker 4: weekends where we're mountain biking as well as skiing and
Speaker 4: snowboarding at the same exact time over the course of
Speaker 4: the weekend.
Speaker 2: This is fabulous. You've done this now, you said several years,
Speaker 2: so you know how it runs. And are there do
Speaker 2: you guys adequate accommodations up there? People want to stay
Speaker 2: at the resort as well. I assume the tickets are available,
Speaker 2: but there is lodging available as well.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's many local lodging facilities across Killington as well
Speaker 4: as into Rutland as well as the Woodstock communities. So
Speaker 4: if you want to come up and stay for the weekend,
Speaker 4: which we would encourage you to do, there's many accommodations available.
Speaker 2: Oh, that's great. And the skiers, what percentage of them?
Speaker 2: And I know I'm asking a couple of questions that
Speaker 2: you probably aren't prepared to answer, but approximately what percentage
Speaker 2: of them do you think have skied internationally representing their
Speaker 2: own country in Olympics? In the Olympics.
Speaker 4: Oh, I'm actually not sure. That's a great question though, Okay, but.
Speaker 2: I'll bet it's been a lot. I bet it's a
Speaker 2: lot of them.
Speaker 3: I bet it is, Yes, So I'm.
Speaker 2: Sure there's not that they're going to bring their gold
Speaker 2: medals and their silver medals and their bronze medals to display.
Speaker 2: But I'm sure there's a lot of great skiers and
Speaker 2: great with great records and accomplishments. And it sounds like
Speaker 2: to me a perfect way to start the winter, perfect
Speaker 2: way to end the fall. And a perfect way to
Speaker 2: spend a Thanksgiving weekend. Amy, I appreciate you being available tonight.
Speaker 2: I very much appreciate that. And whenever you're doing up something,
Speaker 2: whenever you're doing something up in Killington, you let us
Speaker 2: know and we'll give you a little bit of publicity
Speaker 2: on her.
Speaker 4: Okay, that sounds great. Thank you for having me tonight.
Speaker 2: Welcome again. Give us the website one more time so
Speaker 2: that people, uh direct them to where they get the tickets.
Speaker 2: What's what is the specific.
Speaker 4: Website Killington Killington dot com. Backslash World cup Boys.
Speaker 2: That's pretty easy. That's that's good. Thank you so much.
Speaker 4: We try and make things easy.
Speaker 2: Well, absolutely, Amy Laramie, the director of Brand Marketing and
Speaker 2: Events from the Killington Resort in Killington, Vermont. And when
Speaker 2: you think about it, I mean, we're getting close to
Speaker 2: the end of September. There's only a couple of months away,
Speaker 2: so get your up here. Oh I wish I hadn't
Speaker 2: said that. Oh no, no, that's okay, No, No, it's
Speaker 2: just that it's like, I'm a summer guy. My brother
Speaker 2: and his wife are great skiers, uh, and they're up
Speaker 2: up there in New Hampshire and Vermont. You know, most
Speaker 2: of the winter I like to kind of sit by
Speaker 2: the fire in the lodge, and that's that's the most
Speaker 2: that's the that's my best wind. Yeah, that's my winter activity.
Speaker 2: Thanks again, Amy, enjoyed you very much.
Speaker 4: Thank you for talking again.
Speaker 2: You're very welcome. Okay, when we get back, we're going
Speaker 2: to talk about a little bit more serious subject, and
Speaker 2: that is keeping Calm and Coping with Grief. Nine chapters
Speaker 2: for managing fear and grief for losing a parent or
Speaker 2: a loved one. We'll talk with an author coming up,
Speaker 2: Richard Allen. He'll have a lot to say. It will
Speaker 2: not be as much fun as a Killington ski event,
Speaker 2: but it's something we all need to at some point
Speaker 2: in our lives cope with. Back on Nightside right after
Speaker 2: the News at the bottom.
Speaker 1: Of the hour, it's night Side.
Speaker 2: News Radio. All right. My next guest is Richard John Allen.
Speaker 2: He's a published author specializing in grief books. Richard, how
Speaker 2: do you become an author specializing in grief books? There
Speaker 2: must have been a story or how you came to
Speaker 2: write about a pretty tough subject.
Speaker 5: That's a great question, Dan Well Sadly, for me, it
Speaker 5: was because I lost my father to cancer, and my
Speaker 5: dad died in twenty twenty, and at the time, I
Speaker 5: was waiting for one of America's largest insurance companies. I've
Speaker 5: been there fifteen years. I believe I had a successful
Speaker 5: career there. But when I lost my father, I was gutted.
Speaker 5: I was devastated. And it was my wife, Alison who
Speaker 5: suggested that I should write a book about grief, about
Speaker 5: what I was going through. And fortunately for me, Dan,
Speaker 5: I'd never lost anybody so close to me like my dad,
Speaker 5: and I'd never suffered grief before, so this was a
Speaker 5: new emotion for me. I didn't know what to do.
Speaker 5: I didn't know how to handle it, cop with it.
Speaker 5: I didn't know how to arrange the funeral, how to
Speaker 5: read the will. There were so many things that were
Speaker 5: foreign to me, and I was terrified. And of course,
Speaker 5: throughout all of that, I was in so much pain
Speaker 5: because I just lost my dad.
Speaker 2: So how old was your dad when he passed.
Speaker 5: He was seventy nine, which wasn't too old, I guess right.
Speaker 2: I don't think that sounds young to me. That sounds
Speaker 2: young to me, Richard. I obviously you were close with
Speaker 2: your dad, so out of that horrific experience came this book,
Speaker 2: Keep Calm and Cope with Grief, nine chapters for managing
Speaker 2: fear and grief when losing a parent or a loved one.
Speaker 2: I know you can't tell us all of the secrets
Speaker 2: of the book in a relatively brief interview, but give
Speaker 2: us either an overview or tell us a couple of
Speaker 2: things that people might learn from the book. I hope
Speaker 2: some of them will buy it so when grief does
Speaker 2: hit their family, they'll be able to have this as
Speaker 2: a as a guide through and coping with grief.
Speaker 5: Actually, Dan, you just summed it up. It is a guide.
Speaker 5: I have written five books, you know, and again my
Speaker 5: wife has put me on this path. I'm on a janey.
Speaker 5: It's like a quest I wanted answers. You know, I'm
Speaker 5: a Catholic. I've got strong faith, but believe it or not,
Speaker 5: I wanted to proof on it. Doesn't know where my
Speaker 5: dad was. So looking back now at my first book,
Speaker 5: Keep Calm and Cope with Grief, as you just said,
Speaker 5: it really is a guide. It's a guide for somebody
Speaker 5: who has just lost a loved one, and it's also
Speaker 5: a guide for somebody who is about to lose a
Speaker 5: loved one. So whether it's you personally, or whether it's
Speaker 5: a friend or somebody else that you know who may
Speaker 5: be about to lose a loved one, I believe this
Speaker 5: is a great guide for them because, as I mentioned before,
Speaker 5: I'd never gone through this before, and there's so much
Speaker 5: to deal with. My mother is still alive, and when
Speaker 5: we lost our dad, she was left with paying the
Speaker 5: bills for the house, organizing everything, and it was traumatic
Speaker 5: for him that of course too, So in my book
Speaker 5: I touch on that too. I mean, we suddenly realize
Speaker 5: is that losing a loved one doesn't just affect you,
Speaker 5: it affects everybody around you, right, And this book is
Speaker 5: a guide to help you go through that step by step.
Speaker 5: I also put you on signs from loved ones, because
Speaker 5: to this day, I still get signs for my dad,
Speaker 5: which is a whole other story. We could talk for
Speaker 5: hours about that and about life.
Speaker 2: Touched on that just briefly, you obviously, and I do believe.
Speaker 2: I happen to be a believer as well and never
Speaker 2: ashamed to talk about my belief. And it sounds like
Speaker 2: you're not ashamed to talk about your belief. I would
Speaker 2: hope that there is something beyond this mortal coil for
Speaker 2: us to find. And yeah, you know again, we won't
Speaker 2: know until we leave here. No one can convince me
Speaker 2: there isn't, and I can't go no do I try
Speaker 2: to convince people there is. But tell us what your
Speaker 2: experience has been with your dad, because I've had those
Speaker 2: sources of experiences, and I suspect many people in the
Speaker 2: audience have had similar experiences. Give us an example exactly.
Speaker 5: I've had thousands of people contact me now in the
Speaker 5: last three or four years since my dad's passing with
Speaker 5: stories and examples. But for me, I've got dozens of
Speaker 5: instances now. Just to put this out there, my wife
Speaker 5: is a scientist and she believes in data proof and facts,
Speaker 5: and now she believes she's convinced that these are signs
Speaker 5: from my dad. And one quick example, when my dad
Speaker 5: told me back in February twenty twenty he had cancer,
Speaker 5: my wife and I jumped on the first flight over there,
Speaker 5: and we stayed in a hotel close to the house
Speaker 5: because I didn't want to be there and cramp my
Speaker 5: dad because he was going through so much anyway. But
Speaker 5: in the hotel at two o'clock in the morning, there
Speaker 5: was a man outside the hotel playing Sweet Cattle Line
Speaker 5: by Neil Diamond, and for some reason down that song
Speaker 5: is stuck with me now and every time I hear
Speaker 5: that song, I break down. It just reminds me of
Speaker 5: my dad. Well, my dad passed away in November twenty twenty.
Speaker 5: Fast forward two years. I'm back home in America. I
Speaker 5: live in the States and my family's in Liverpool. So
Speaker 5: when me and my wife go to bed, and I
Speaker 5: always put my phone on the bedside table and plug
Speaker 5: it into charge at night. But once, yeah, and I
Speaker 5: think most people do that. At one sixteen am, my
Speaker 5: cell phone goes off and it's playing Sweet Catline by
Speaker 5: Neil Diamond, and it plays it from the chorus, not
Speaker 5: from the started song, and it's on loud. I jumped
Speaker 5: up in bed. I looked around the room and I
Speaker 5: shouted out, Dad, you know is that you? And Allison
Speaker 5: wakes up and she's like, what's going on Richard? And
Speaker 5: I was like, I don't know, And I picked up
Speaker 5: my phone and I couldn't get the song to stop.
Speaker 5: Now that song is not on my phone. You know,
Speaker 5: I have Pandora, but Pandora wasn't open YouTube wasn't open.
Speaker 5: There's nothing on my phone but that that song is
Speaker 5: not on my phone. So how did that play at
Speaker 5: once sixteen and wake me up? And I couldn't. I
Speaker 5: had to switch off my cell phone. I could not
Speaker 5: get that song to stop. And my dad knows because
Speaker 5: of it it several times since its passing that it
Speaker 5: upsets me and it's my song for my dad. And
Speaker 5: there it was playing on my phone at one sixteen
Speaker 5: in the morning. So I can't explain it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you've had other experiences like that, so that
Speaker 2: that has to help you. That experience has to help you.
Speaker 2: You said there are nine chapters in the book. Is
Speaker 2: the book currently available? I assume it's on Amazon and
Speaker 2: at the traditional bookstores that most people go for books.
Speaker 5: I assume, yep, right right now, Dan, it's on Amazon.
Speaker 5: All my books are on Amazon. I actually use my
Speaker 5: dad's name as my author name, so it's John Allen.
Speaker 5: My full name is Richard John Allen, but my author
Speaker 5: name is John Allen and that that was my dad's name,
Speaker 5: So in love and respect for my dad, he used
Speaker 5: that name. But all my books are on Amazon, and
Speaker 5: if you go to my website, Richardjohnallen dot com. You'll
Speaker 5: see a bio one may All my podcasts and my
Speaker 5: books are there too.
Speaker 2: Well. Again, I think it gives hope to people, whether
Speaker 2: they believe or not. Every every family has been through this,
Speaker 2: uh and and I'm sure that if you read this
Speaker 2: in advance uh and, before you'll lose someone, you'll be
Speaker 2: a little better prepared. And maybe can I can pull
Speaker 2: some papers together and be prepared and ready if, if,
Speaker 2: and when, as inevitably it comes for all of us,
Speaker 2: that day comes and exactly John Allen formerly Richard John
Speaker 2: Allen for when I say formally, I mean formally full name,
Speaker 2: but John Allen, the author, thanks for joining us tonight.
Speaker 2: And I hope your dad, wherever he is, had a
Speaker 2: chance to listen to this interview, because you have to
Speaker 2: come away from this interview knowing how close you and
Speaker 2: your dad were. And I'm sure that if he was
Speaker 2: able to hear this tonight he he's once again pretty
Speaker 2: proud of you.
Speaker 5: Thank you so much, John, Thank you, don thank you.
Speaker 2: Are good night. All Right, We're going to lighten it
Speaker 2: up a little bit on the other side. But that's
Speaker 2: an interesting book again. It's called Keep Calm and Cope
Speaker 2: with Grief. Nine chapters for managing fear and grief when
Speaker 2: losing a parent or a loved one. And again, all
Speaker 2: of us have been through that, but it wouldn't be
Speaker 2: bad to have this as a guide, so I'd suggest
Speaker 2: to you different book stores and also of course at
Speaker 2: Amazon dot Com. When we get back, we're going to
Speaker 2: be talking about Massachusetts two fifty. Massachusetts, we were in
Speaker 2: the middle of the Great Revolution of seventeen seventy six,
Speaker 2: but kind of started here in Massachusetts with the Tea
Speaker 2: Party in December of seventeen seventy four. Maybe we didn't
Speaker 2: learn as much about this in history classes in school
Speaker 2: of the Revolution in Massachusetts' role, but we're going to
Speaker 2: learn a lot about it. And there's a new program
Speaker 2: that has just started. It's called the Massachusetts two fifty Initiative,
Speaker 2: and we're going to talk with Boston Herald reporter Chris
Speaker 2: van Buskirk about it and about what we all will
Speaker 2: be experiencing in the next few months, in the next
Speaker 2: couple of years here in Massachusetts, as we move up
Speaker 2: to the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of the signing
Speaker 2: of the Declaration of Independence in July of twenty twenty six.
Speaker 2: It's not that far away. We'll be back on Nightside
Speaker 2: right after this.
Speaker 1: Now back to Dan ray Line from the Window World
Speaker 1: night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2: Well, there's some big events coming up in the next
Speaker 2: two and a half years or so. Next well really
Speaker 2: the next a little less now than two and a
Speaker 2: half years. July of twenty twenty six will be upon
Speaker 2: us less than two and a half years, and we're
Speaker 2: going to talk about it with Chris van Buskirk of
Speaker 2: the Boston Herald. He is a great reporter at the
Speaker 2: Boston Herald. And Chris, I know you covered some of
Speaker 2: this activity at the State House yesterday. I guess we're
Speaker 2: all going to be living through this, just as our
Speaker 2: four bears lived through the actual Revolution two and a
Speaker 2: half centuries ago. How are you.
Speaker 6: Tonight, Joe, Well, Dan, thanks for having me. Yes, I
Speaker 6: suppose over the next two years we will be living
Speaker 6: through this two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of American Independence
Speaker 6: that Governor Kewley and her administration kicked off with quite
Speaker 6: a show yesterday in front of the State House, including
Speaker 6: a direction descendant of Paul Revere riding up Bacon Street
Speaker 6: on a horse and delivering her a warning that the
Speaker 6: British were coming, albeit maybe a bit late at this point.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so there was Look, all of us who have
Speaker 2: been around remember the VI Centennial and the Vice Centennial
Speaker 2: in nineteen seventy six was a great event for Boston.
Speaker 2: I mean it was it was glorious. Elizabeth came to Boston,
Speaker 2: the tall ships came to Boston. What are some of
Speaker 2: the things, I mean, obviously as we go by the dates,
Speaker 2: we got the tea party coming up in December, I'm
Speaker 2: sure there's going to big be a big event with
Speaker 2: all of that activity, tell us some of the things
Speaker 2: that we should be anticipating.
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, it's kicking off pretty quick here, I mean
Speaker 6: just in the next just this month, I mean, there's
Speaker 6: celebrations in Conquered reflecting on the Revolutionary War itself, more
Speaker 6: celebrations in Marblehead as well, and then there's the Chelsea
Speaker 6: four hundredth anniversary parade later this month. And I think
Speaker 6: we'll learn more exactly, you know, more about what exactly
Speaker 6: will happened, you know, this upcoming in July later on,
Speaker 6: but certainly the governor is pitching this as a likely
Speaker 6: economic driver for the state. As you said, you know,
Speaker 6: not too long ago, it was a boon from Boston,
Speaker 6: a boone from Massachusetts. Governor Healey thinks that will be
Speaker 6: the same thing this time around, and Mayor Michelle who
Speaker 6: was also on hand, just pretty much echo the same comments.
Speaker 6: This is going to be good for the city, good
Speaker 6: for the state.
Speaker 2: Did did all of the political leaders who were there yesterday,
Speaker 2: did they feel that we're ready for whatever my coming.
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously, back at the time of the Vice centennial,
Speaker 2: it was all celebration. I don't think any of us
Speaker 2: even had heard the term terrorism at that time. And
Speaker 2: now it's fifty years later, and we all know what
Speaker 2: happened on nine to eleven. We know what has happened.
Speaker 2: I have to assume that the security for the two
Speaker 2: fiftieth is going to be immense. Was there any conversation
Speaker 2: or discussion about that yesterday?
Speaker 6: No discussion during their speaking program about security. But I
Speaker 6: have to agree with you that I would imagine the administration,
Speaker 6: the city, the state Police, Boston Police, you know, all
Speaker 6: those law enforcement partners are prepared and ready for the
Speaker 6: events that will happen, the upcoming events. I think yesterday
Speaker 6: was really focused on just outing this is really just
Speaker 6: an opportunity for the state to bring in people from
Speaker 6: all over the world to come celebrate both American independence,
Speaker 6: but of course where this country of ours started, where
Speaker 6: democracy was formed. And how amazing of an opportunity that
Speaker 6: our state has right now to kind of capture the
Speaker 6: line light.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm sure the Philadelphia is going to be in
Speaker 2: a friendly competition with us, particularly as we get towards
Speaker 2: twenty twenty six. What sort of an economic boom? I
Speaker 2: always hear these figures quoted Chris and you know, let's say, well,
Speaker 2: it's going to be a billion dollars or five hundred
Speaker 2: million dollars, And I always think they picked those numbers
Speaker 2: out of the year. But do they really believe that
Speaker 2: there'll be a lot of people who are going to
Speaker 2: be interested and come to Massachusetts, I know, who've never
Speaker 2: been here before from all over the United States. We
Speaker 2: are we ready for the traffic and all. What they
Speaker 2: did they talk about that issue, the whole issue of
Speaker 2: capacity and being able to accommodate people and accommodate them comfortably.
Speaker 6: Well, you know, I mean Boston obviously a city well
Speaker 6: used to tourists, well used to the massive amount of
Speaker 6: college kids they come in during the academic year. I
Speaker 6: think the administration certainly believes it's ready to handle both
Speaker 6: the both the influx in Boston and statewide. As far
Speaker 6: as numbers, no specific numbers yesterday, but Heally did say
Speaker 6: that this would be quite an opportunity for our hospitality industry,
Speaker 6: for our restaurants to really pull in people, for some
Speaker 6: of our academic institutions to show themselves off our museums.
Speaker 6: And you can go down the list of just kind
Speaker 6: of the attractions in Boston and across the rest of
Speaker 6: the state that they might pick up, you know, anywhere
Speaker 6: from a few extra guests to maybe quite a bit more.
Speaker 2: Yeah. The other than the Paul Revere like it was
Speaker 2: Paul Revered, the third a direct descended rode that horse yesterday,
Speaker 2: so a quick shot. The governor was astride or horse
Speaker 2: as well. I only saw the still shots, I assume,
Speaker 2: And if I'm incorrect, were you there at the event yesterday?
Speaker 6: Yes, Yet Heally did take a quick stin on a horse.
Speaker 6: She told me that there was an empty one with
Speaker 6: the lancers there, and she just said, oh, there's a horse,
Speaker 6: it's empty. She got on. Healey told US reporters that
Speaker 6: she grew up with horses in New Hampshire. Wasn't her
Speaker 6: first time on a horse, you know. She obviously knew
Speaker 6: what she was doing and really commended them for being
Speaker 6: beautiful creatures there.
Speaker 2: Well, that's great, Chris, I appreciate it very much. Always
Speaker 2: love to have you here on Night's side, and thanks
Speaker 2: for bringing us up to day in this. It's going
Speaker 2: to be a very interesting time to be here. None
Speaker 2: of us were, well, very few of us were around
Speaker 2: at the h hundred and fiftieth anniversary in nineteen twenty six,
Speaker 2: but you probably weren't even born. I was here, and
Speaker 2: I remember as a young reporter covering some of the events.
Speaker 2: The tall ships were here and as they said, the
Speaker 2: Queen and Prince Philip, it was an exciting time. Kevin
Speaker 2: White was the mayor, he was in his glory at
Speaker 2: that time. And now we have an entirely different set
Speaker 2: of characters. So looks looks like it's going to be
Speaker 2: a good time. Let's hope it all goes without any
Speaker 2: sort of incident that we might come to regret. Let's
Speaker 2: just hope it goes off flawlessly and good planning are involved.
Speaker 2: Thanks again, Chris, I appreciate your time.
Speaker 6: Thanks for having Dan.
Speaker 5: You're welcome.
Speaker 2: All right, we come back. I would like to go
Speaker 2: back to the story that we talked about on Monday night,
Speaker 2: and I want to hear from the State Police what
Speaker 2: happened to this young recruit, Enrique Delgado Garcia, and I
Speaker 2: hope you will join the chorus there, because the longer
Speaker 2: that we go without getting any information in to the
Speaker 2: best of my knowledge, there has been no specific information
Speaker 2: given but officially as to what happened. So with that said,
Speaker 2: we're going to go to the nine o'clock news. We
Speaker 2: come back. We're going to talk about this horrific loss
Speaker 2: to a family, but also again another black eye to
Speaker 2: the Massachusetts State Police that just seemed to have problems
Speaker 2: after problems, and I think we need some transparency, We
Speaker 2: need a full investigation. But somehow we should be given
Speaker 2: this week what we know or what we don't know
Speaker 2: about this terrible loss. Back on night Side, right after
Speaker 2: the nine o'clock news,