WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.320 --> 00:00:06.320 It's Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ Cast Radio. 2 00:00:07.160 --> 00:00:12.199 Thank you so much, Nicole. As we moved through the 3 00:00:12.240 --> 00:00:16.480 final week of summer. Boy, that's what happened to summer, 4 00:00:16.480 --> 00:00:19.120 it seemed like a Memorial Day yesterday. My name is 5 00:00:19.160 --> 00:00:22.239 Dan Ray. You know what your name is, so I 6 00:00:22.320 --> 00:00:24.640 need no introduction, but thank you very much for being 7 00:00:24.679 --> 00:00:27.039 here tonight, and thank you very much for being with 8 00:00:27.160 --> 00:00:30.120 us every night. I am always astonished and as sounded 9 00:00:30.199 --> 00:00:33.799 and astounded and appreciative of all of you who will 10 00:00:33.920 --> 00:00:38.640 take the time any weeknight or every weeknight and tune 11 00:00:38.920 --> 00:00:42.159 us in here on WBZ on Nightside. 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And we'll start it off tonight at 32 00:01:48.280 --> 00:01:50.879 eight oh well it's actually now about eight oh nine 33 00:01:50.920 --> 00:01:55.799 with Boston Globe reporter Dana Gerber. Dana Gerber, Welcome to 34 00:01:55.879 --> 00:01:58.359 Night's Side. I'm not sure we've had the pleasure of 35 00:01:58.359 --> 00:01:59.959 your company before. How are you tonight? 36 00:02:00.840 --> 00:02:02.920 Once before? But I'm not offended, don't worry. 37 00:02:03.760 --> 00:02:07.120 Well, you know what, and I apologize. I always like 38 00:02:07.159 --> 00:02:10.199 to welcome people. So now you are a regular as 39 00:02:10.240 --> 00:02:12.319 far as I'm concerned on Nightside. 40 00:02:12.360 --> 00:02:13.439 Feels like the firs time. 41 00:02:13.560 --> 00:02:18.680 Dan, I'm no problem. Thank you so much. And so 42 00:02:19.319 --> 00:02:21.199 you're right for the Globe and you have written a 43 00:02:21.360 --> 00:02:26.639 very interesting piece that was. I'm not sure if it's 44 00:02:26.639 --> 00:02:29.759 in the Globe today. I read the Globe today and 45 00:02:29.800 --> 00:02:32.280 I'm not sure I saw it or if it's posted today. 46 00:02:32.800 --> 00:02:36.479 But the piece is who is leaving Massachusetts and why. 47 00:02:37.039 --> 00:02:40.240 Here's what the report reveals. I'm guessing this is going 48 00:02:40.280 --> 00:02:42.960 to hit the print version tomorrow morning. Is that correct? 49 00:02:43.759 --> 00:02:45.560 I believe it was in print today, but you'll have 50 00:02:45.599 --> 00:02:47.240 to fact check me on that. It was a pretty 51 00:02:47.240 --> 00:02:50.599 short story, so, oh god, I've. 52 00:02:50.439 --> 00:02:52.599 Read it, but I didn't read it in the in 53 00:02:52.639 --> 00:02:55.479 the print version. So the report came out yesterday for 54 00:02:55.560 --> 00:02:58.199 the Massachu's Budget and Policy sent which, as you say, 55 00:02:58.280 --> 00:03:03.199 is a progressive think tank. Who's leaving for our beautiful state? 56 00:03:04.599 --> 00:03:07.599 Yeah, so it's it's a pretty interesting report in that, 57 00:03:08.280 --> 00:03:11.520 you know, obviously as a progressive thing tank, mass budget 58 00:03:12.319 --> 00:03:15.560 supported question one which a lot of the listeners might 59 00:03:15.560 --> 00:03:19.080 know is the millionaire's tax. So they are putting together 60 00:03:19.159 --> 00:03:23.159 research pretty regularly to indicate that, you know, the millionaires 61 00:03:23.199 --> 00:03:26.840 tax isn't having the effects folks were worried it might that, 62 00:03:27.000 --> 00:03:30.159 you know, high earners would be leaving the state. And 63 00:03:30.240 --> 00:03:32.400 the way they put together these reports this through census 64 00:03:32.479 --> 00:03:36.479 data I r S data and and similar stuff, and 65 00:03:36.520 --> 00:03:39.879 its reports sort of indicates the same vat same argument 66 00:03:39.919 --> 00:03:43.719 that you know, high owners aren't the folks leaving Massachusetts, 67 00:03:43.719 --> 00:03:47.080 and the highest numbers that's actually working age adults who 68 00:03:47.080 --> 00:03:50.639 are lower middle income. That was what they found. It 69 00:03:51.319 --> 00:03:54.039 really bears noting that the data they were looking at 70 00:03:54.080 --> 00:03:56.719 does not reflect the time period in which the millionaire's 71 00:03:56.719 --> 00:04:00.479 taxes had taken effect yet, so that those numbers are 72 00:04:00.520 --> 00:04:03.159 still to come. But so far it seems like, you know, 73 00:04:03.400 --> 00:04:06.240 it's not there's not a massive exile of the state's 74 00:04:06.319 --> 00:04:10.159 highest earners. But again, we will see what new numbers 75 00:04:10.199 --> 00:04:12.439 bear out in the coming months and years. 76 00:04:12.840 --> 00:04:15.840 Well, for example, you make three points in the article. 77 00:04:15.879 --> 00:04:19.600 I guess three points that we're made, and it says, 78 00:04:19.639 --> 00:04:24.920 according to most recent measure the Massachusetts population is still growing. 79 00:04:25.439 --> 00:04:28.920 So we are up by eighteen thousand year to year 80 00:04:29.000 --> 00:04:33.439 July first, twenty twenty two to July first, twenty twenty three, 81 00:04:35.639 --> 00:04:39.319 we're up by a quarter of one percent. I guess 82 00:04:39.439 --> 00:04:46.399 a quarter percent tick. That is encouraging, but it's also 83 00:04:46.560 --> 00:04:50.319 paul free compared to the population growth in other states. 84 00:04:50.319 --> 00:04:54.279 Correct, Yeah, I mean, it's just it's hard to compare 85 00:04:54.600 --> 00:04:56.959 you know, apples and oranges. Massachusetts has a lot of 86 00:04:57.680 --> 00:05:01.519 its own quirks. You know, there's it's not as fast 87 00:05:01.519 --> 00:05:03.800 a growing state as like you said, other states. But 88 00:05:04.000 --> 00:05:07.439 you know we're still you know, in the black, which 89 00:05:07.480 --> 00:05:10.000 is which is what you know, politicians and business leaders 90 00:05:10.000 --> 00:05:10.959 and everyone do look for. 91 00:05:11.720 --> 00:05:14.680 Oh sure, but we're The point I'm trying to make 92 00:05:14.759 --> 00:05:16.959 is I think that the migration the states that seem 93 00:05:17.000 --> 00:05:21.000 to be picking up population and also, by the way, 94 00:05:21.040 --> 00:05:24.360 picking up seats in congress because as your population grows, 95 00:05:24.399 --> 00:05:29.120 every ten years, they recalibrate the census around the country 96 00:05:29.120 --> 00:05:31.160 and all of a sudden you'll see Texas has picked 97 00:05:31.240 --> 00:05:35.560 up two, you know, two congressional seats, in California has 98 00:05:35.600 --> 00:05:38.920 lost three congressional seats. And you know, we see that 99 00:05:39.040 --> 00:05:41.560 every ten years or so. So the people who are 100 00:05:41.680 --> 00:05:45.399 leading says fifty five percent of the people who left 101 00:05:45.519 --> 00:05:48.839 between twenty twenty one and twenty twenty two, which I 102 00:05:48.879 --> 00:05:53.000 guess this is based on prior to the implementation of 103 00:05:53.000 --> 00:05:56.639 the millionaires tax. We're working age adults twenty six to 104 00:05:56.720 --> 00:05:59.879 forty five. Those are people who contributing to the tax. 105 00:06:00.399 --> 00:06:03.639 I would be really worried about them. 106 00:06:03.959 --> 00:06:06.480 Yeah, No, it's certainly concerning, and that lines up with 107 00:06:07.199 --> 00:06:09.600 you know, figures we've reported before that you know, this 108 00:06:09.720 --> 00:06:12.120 is the group leaving at the highest rate, and that 109 00:06:12.199 --> 00:06:14.439 you know, it's anyone's guess why that is. It could 110 00:06:14.480 --> 00:06:16.680 be that, you know, they want to start a family 111 00:06:16.680 --> 00:06:18.639 and they need a bigger house and really can't afford 112 00:06:19.480 --> 00:06:22.480 what's available around here. It could be that, you know, 113 00:06:22.519 --> 00:06:25.639 they want to live closer to family. It's it's hard 114 00:06:25.680 --> 00:06:30.920 to sort of opining about what's why these folks are leaving. 115 00:06:30.920 --> 00:06:33.519 But you're absolutely right that, you know, not only for 116 00:06:33.560 --> 00:06:35.680 the tax base, but for the labor force. You know, 117 00:06:36.079 --> 00:06:38.079 this is really not the age group you want the 118 00:06:38.240 --> 00:06:39.000 parting a state. 119 00:06:40.120 --> 00:06:43.680 Yeah, and it says the majority of those leaving are 120 00:06:43.720 --> 00:06:46.839 not high income earners. That's the point three, which is 121 00:06:46.920 --> 00:06:48.720 kind of an interesting point. It says about one in 122 00:06:48.800 --> 00:06:52.480 six of the residents who left Massachusetts between twenty twenty 123 00:06:52.480 --> 00:06:54.959 one and twenty two, and it's important that's the time 124 00:06:56.040 --> 00:07:01.600 have incomes exceeding two hundred k. That's not bad, but 125 00:07:02.079 --> 00:07:06.040 it says, yeah, a larger group, eighty percent had incomes 126 00:07:06.319 --> 00:07:10.879 below two hundred k. Well, so that was a little 127 00:07:10.879 --> 00:07:16.720 bit below two hundred k. Yeah, yeah, it's a weird 128 00:07:17.079 --> 00:07:19.240 it's a weird cutoff they picked. I'd love to know 129 00:07:19.279 --> 00:07:23.560 what the median income was of the mean income of 130 00:07:23.879 --> 00:07:27.920 those leaving Massachusetts. They're all contributing if they're working and 131 00:07:28.040 --> 00:07:28.720 earning money. 132 00:07:30.199 --> 00:07:33.040 Yeah, no, it's that's that's a good question. I don't 133 00:07:33.040 --> 00:07:34.360 have that off the top of my head, but I 134 00:07:34.399 --> 00:07:37.240 just want to make it clear that the so it's 135 00:07:37.759 --> 00:07:39.680 of the twenty six to forty five year old who 136 00:07:39.720 --> 00:07:42.519 are leaving, so that's the only group they're looking at. 137 00:07:43.439 --> 00:07:46.240 More than eighty percent of those people had incomes below 138 00:07:46.279 --> 00:07:49.160 two hundred thousands, so that they're looking at a subset 139 00:07:49.199 --> 00:07:49.839 of a subset. 140 00:07:50.319 --> 00:07:52.240 No, I get that. But what I'm saying is if 141 00:07:52.240 --> 00:07:54.399 you're twenty six and you lay twenties and you make 142 00:07:54.480 --> 00:07:56.000 you make in two hundred k, or if you're in 143 00:07:56.040 --> 00:07:58.480 your thirties and you're making two hundred k, that's not 144 00:07:58.639 --> 00:08:05.120 bad coin. I don't know. Yeah, I mean no, it's go. 145 00:08:05.040 --> 00:08:08.079 Ahead to say no, no, no, I was just gonna 146 00:08:08.079 --> 00:08:11.240 say it's tough one. You know, two hundred thousand really 147 00:08:11.279 --> 00:08:13.120 doesn't pack the punch here that it does. And like 148 00:08:13.160 --> 00:08:16.000 you said, maybe Texas or elsewhere in the country. So 149 00:08:16.040 --> 00:08:19.639 it's you know, it's the math in Massachusetts isn't always 150 00:08:19.680 --> 00:08:21.360 the same as the math elsewhere. 151 00:08:21.240 --> 00:08:22.959 So I get that. But there are parts of the 152 00:08:23.000 --> 00:08:27.199 state outside the one twenty eighth belt where housing is 153 00:08:27.319 --> 00:08:30.240 much more reasonable. And of course now we have the 154 00:08:30.279 --> 00:08:33.960 other development that a lot of people can work from home. 155 00:08:34.200 --> 00:08:38.120 The zoomsters, if you will. Companies have found out that 156 00:08:38.159 --> 00:08:40.679 they can have very employable people who don't have to 157 00:08:40.720 --> 00:08:43.039 trek into the office every day put on the jacket 158 00:08:43.080 --> 00:08:45.879 and tie. They can do they can do their work 159 00:08:45.919 --> 00:08:50.960 from home, which is always really you know, there's my 160 00:08:51.039 --> 00:08:53.360 phone ringing Rob. Get that next guest on the line, 161 00:08:53.360 --> 00:08:59.120 which anyway, bottom line is it's an interesting study. I'm 162 00:08:59.159 --> 00:09:02.639 going to look at it more closely. Uh thanks for 163 00:09:02.639 --> 00:09:05.039 for breaking these studies down, because all too often we 164 00:09:05.080 --> 00:09:07.799 read about them and and we kind of go past them. 165 00:09:08.080 --> 00:09:10.159 It did say that the majority of people who are 166 00:09:10.279 --> 00:09:14.080 leaving Massachusetts, the majority of people who are leaving Massachusetts 167 00:09:14.159 --> 00:09:18.600 are going to Florida in New Hampshire to look to Yeah. 168 00:09:19.320 --> 00:09:22.519 Yeah, again, those I just want to say that that's 169 00:09:22.559 --> 00:09:24.759 it's not the majority, it's the those are the top 170 00:09:24.799 --> 00:09:26.559 states where people are going so it's, oh. 171 00:09:26.559 --> 00:09:28.320 Yeah, no, I understand that. But it's but it's not 172 00:09:28.399 --> 00:09:32.559 like they're going to New York. In California, Yeah, certainly no. 173 00:09:32.600 --> 00:09:36.039 I mean those those two states have no income tax there. Yeah, 174 00:09:36.120 --> 00:09:37.679 it's it's certainly. 175 00:09:38.120 --> 00:09:40.840 They're not going. They're not going as they would say 176 00:09:40.840 --> 00:09:42.519 in New York. They're not not going to go to 177 00:09:42.600 --> 00:09:48.440 New York in Jersey. They're looking at Florida, and Governors 178 00:09:48.440 --> 00:09:52.039 Sonunu and Governor DeSantis must be very pleased with with 179 00:09:52.039 --> 00:09:57.360 with the that that pattern. Anyway, I love the column, 180 00:09:57.759 --> 00:10:01.120 I love your enthusiasm for your stories, and we got 181 00:10:01.159 --> 00:10:03.039 to have you back more often. Dana, thank you so 182 00:10:03.120 --> 00:10:05.080 much for joining us tonight. I really appreciate you. 183 00:10:05.919 --> 00:10:07.080 Thanks so much for having me. 184 00:10:07.440 --> 00:10:10.320 Absolutely talk soon when we get back. I think that 185 00:10:10.519 --> 00:10:13.639 was my next guest calling me on my cell phone, 186 00:10:13.639 --> 00:10:16.720 but that's a story for another night. In a moment, 187 00:10:16.759 --> 00:10:20.279 we'll be talking with Amy Laramie. She's the director of 188 00:10:20.279 --> 00:10:23.039 brand marketing and events from Killington Resort up in Killington, 189 00:10:23.080 --> 00:10:27.639 New Hampshire. They are about to have a great women's 190 00:10:28.000 --> 00:10:31.320 ski event on Thanksgiving weekend, So if you're looking to 191 00:10:31.320 --> 00:10:35.240 spend Thanksgiving in Vermont and go to a great ski event. 192 00:10:35.399 --> 00:10:37.399 We'll get you all the details coming up with Amy 193 00:10:37.480 --> 00:10:40.320 Laramie on the other side of this quick commercial break 194 00:10:40.360 --> 00:10:42.080 here on Nightside. My name's Dan Ray. 195 00:10:42.960 --> 00:10:46.159 Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World 196 00:10:46.279 --> 00:10:49.440 Nightside Studios on WBZ News Radio. 197 00:10:50.279 --> 00:10:55.279 Well, I am delighted to welcome Amy Laramie. She is 198 00:10:55.360 --> 00:10:58.600 at the Killington Ski Resort up in I think all 199 00:10:58.639 --> 00:11:01.440 of us know Killington Mount and the Killington Ski Resort. 200 00:11:01.480 --> 00:11:04.799 She's the director of brand Marketing and Events from the 201 00:11:04.919 --> 00:11:07.960 Killington Resort. And Amy's going to tell us about a 202 00:11:08.120 --> 00:11:11.960 great event coming up Thanksgiving weekend, the twenty twenty four 203 00:11:13.000 --> 00:11:17.440 and it's called the Stifle. I hope I pronounced that correctly. Amy, 204 00:11:17.600 --> 00:11:20.360 Stifle Killington Cup. Tell us about it. 205 00:11:21.360 --> 00:11:23.720 Yeah, thank you for having me. So it's the Steephel 206 00:11:23.799 --> 00:11:24.840 Killington Cup. 207 00:11:24.679 --> 00:11:28.159 Stepel like a George Steeple. Okay, thank you. I was 208 00:11:28.159 --> 00:11:31.480 thinking of the Eiffel Tower. This this Stiefel. I got it. 209 00:11:31.600 --> 00:11:37.120 Go ahead, No, that's fine. So it's the eighth year 210 00:11:37.200 --> 00:11:40.159 we've been hosting this event, and we're very excited to 211 00:11:40.320 --> 00:11:45.559 have Mikayla Schiffrin, Paula Moltsen, aj Her Nina O'Brien come 212 00:11:45.600 --> 00:11:50.120 back to Killington for another race this year. Mikhayla Schiffrin 213 00:11:50.200 --> 00:11:54.200 might be actually getting her historic one hundredth victory at 214 00:11:54.279 --> 00:11:57.759 Killington when we host this event this year. It all 215 00:11:57.799 --> 00:12:00.960 depends on how she does in races before comes to Killington. 216 00:12:01.879 --> 00:12:05.600 But tickets are available and they're on sale. So we 217 00:12:05.679 --> 00:12:10.320 have general admission tickets available for ten dollars and then 218 00:12:10.360 --> 00:12:13.480 there's different ticket options if you wanted to do premiere 219 00:12:13.879 --> 00:12:16.399 Premiere grand stand tickets are just sitting in the grand 220 00:12:16.440 --> 00:12:18.039 stands as well as VIP tickets. 221 00:12:18.919 --> 00:12:23.440 You know this is these are women's racers, what sort 222 00:12:23.440 --> 00:12:26.960 of events? It's obviously all downhill is it's all slalom? 223 00:12:27.200 --> 00:12:30.960 Tell us, I'm not an expert in skiing. I got 224 00:12:30.960 --> 00:12:34.240 to be honest with you. I enjoy watching it and 225 00:12:34.320 --> 00:12:40.519 with the greatest women's skiers, downhill scheme racers in the world, 226 00:12:40.600 --> 00:12:42.960 I mean, this is going to be a huge success 227 00:12:42.960 --> 00:12:43.519 for you guys. 228 00:12:43.559 --> 00:12:47.679 I'm sure, yes, awesome. Over the course of the weekend, 229 00:12:47.720 --> 00:12:52.120 we have upwards of more than thirty thousand fans visiting 230 00:12:52.200 --> 00:12:56.759 Killington on the World Cup weekend and we are very 231 00:12:56.799 --> 00:13:01.360 excited to host this once again. We see giant slalom 232 00:13:01.559 --> 00:13:04.279 and the slalom events here at Killington. 233 00:13:05.440 --> 00:13:10.120 And how many women will compete, how many competitors will 234 00:13:10.279 --> 00:13:13.759 will be trying for this price money. 235 00:13:15.039 --> 00:13:18.720 We have about one hundred competitors coming to Killington from all. 236 00:13:18.559 --> 00:13:19.200 Over the world. 237 00:13:19.440 --> 00:13:21.120 There's about the two countries. 238 00:13:21.759 --> 00:13:26.519 Yeah, these are professionals skiers who are representing their countries 239 00:13:26.559 --> 00:13:29.639 in the Olympics. It's like a skiing Olympics, is what 240 00:13:29.679 --> 00:13:33.039 it sounds like to me, which which is fabulous. Killington. 241 00:13:33.320 --> 00:13:35.519 You said this is Thanksgiving weekend, and as they said 242 00:13:35.559 --> 00:13:39.159 earlier tonight, what's better than to spend Thanksgiving in Vermont, 243 00:13:39.879 --> 00:13:43.840 particularly with family, and then go watch the ski races. 244 00:13:44.159 --> 00:13:47.200 Is it Saturday Sunday or Friday Saturday Sunday? 245 00:13:48.519 --> 00:13:51.320 So the races are Friday and Saturday, or sorry, the 246 00:13:51.399 --> 00:13:54.000 races are Saturday and Sunday. And on Friday we kick 247 00:13:54.080 --> 00:13:58.840 off the weekend with a athlete, big presentation, fireworks and 248 00:13:59.200 --> 00:14:02.080 stay tuned because next weekend we plan to announce all 249 00:14:02.120 --> 00:14:07.639 of our entertainment acts. And so this is more than 250 00:14:07.759 --> 00:14:10.720 just a ski race, is actually a party over Thanksgiving 251 00:14:10.759 --> 00:14:14.000 weekend at Killington, and we have some great entertainment acts 252 00:14:14.039 --> 00:14:16.399 every year that we plan to announce next week. 253 00:14:17.039 --> 00:14:20.519 Well, that's faculous. Now this is part we need to 254 00:14:20.519 --> 00:14:23.399 put in some context here. This is part of a 255 00:14:23.559 --> 00:14:28.480 world tour of these fabulous female skiers. Give us a 256 00:14:28.480 --> 00:14:31.840 sense as to where the Killington event sits within the 257 00:14:31.840 --> 00:14:35.519 world tour. Obviously it's early in the ski season, and 258 00:14:35.600 --> 00:14:40.440 you told me earlier tonight that Killington opens the earliest 259 00:14:40.519 --> 00:14:44.639 and stays open the latest into the spring because of 260 00:14:44.200 --> 00:14:46.519 your snowmaking capacity. 261 00:14:46.559 --> 00:14:51.639 Correct, that's correct. Yes, it's the Audi FIS Ski World 262 00:14:51.720 --> 00:14:56.120 Cup circuit that this event is on. And we host 263 00:14:56.159 --> 00:15:00.039 this Thanksgiving weekend and not many East Coast well, I 264 00:15:00.080 --> 00:15:03.120 should say no other East Coast ski resort could probably 265 00:15:03.120 --> 00:15:06.000 host this events on Thanksgiving weekend. But we have a 266 00:15:06.039 --> 00:15:09.519 great snowmaking capacity here at Killington. We have the longest 267 00:15:09.519 --> 00:15:12.559 season in the East. Many times we're doing multi sport 268 00:15:12.600 --> 00:15:16.080 weekends where we're mountain biking as well as skiing and 269 00:15:16.120 --> 00:15:20.320 snowboarding at the same exact time over the course of 270 00:15:20.320 --> 00:15:21.559 the weekend. 271 00:15:22.120 --> 00:15:26.399 This is fabulous. You've done this now, you said several years, 272 00:15:26.600 --> 00:15:32.039 so you know how it runs. And are there do 273 00:15:32.039 --> 00:15:35.360 you guys adequate accommodations up there? People want to stay 274 00:15:35.360 --> 00:15:38.279 at the resort as well. I assume the tickets are available, 275 00:15:38.279 --> 00:15:40.799 but there is lodging available as well. 276 00:15:42.000 --> 00:15:46.360 Yeah, there's many local lodging facilities across Killington as well 277 00:15:46.399 --> 00:15:50.879 as into Rutland as well as the Woodstock communities. So 278 00:15:50.919 --> 00:15:52.600 if you want to come up and stay for the weekend, 279 00:15:52.639 --> 00:15:56.000 which we would encourage you to do, there's many accommodations available. 280 00:15:56.720 --> 00:16:01.039 Oh, that's great. And the skiers, what percentage of them? 281 00:16:01.519 --> 00:16:03.559 And I know I'm asking a couple of questions that 282 00:16:03.639 --> 00:16:07.080 you probably aren't prepared to answer, but approximately what percentage 283 00:16:07.120 --> 00:16:11.120 of them do you think have skied internationally representing their 284 00:16:11.159 --> 00:16:14.000 own country in Olympics? In the Olympics. 285 00:16:15.200 --> 00:16:18.799 Oh, I'm actually not sure. That's a great question though, Okay, but. 286 00:16:18.759 --> 00:16:20.320 I'll bet it's been a lot. I bet it's a 287 00:16:20.320 --> 00:16:20.799 lot of them. 288 00:16:21.720 --> 00:16:24.639 I bet it is, Yes, So I'm. 289 00:16:24.519 --> 00:16:26.679 Sure there's not that they're going to bring their gold 290 00:16:26.720 --> 00:16:30.159 medals and their silver medals and their bronze medals to display. 291 00:16:30.399 --> 00:16:33.600 But I'm sure there's a lot of great skiers and 292 00:16:34.039 --> 00:16:37.480 great with great records and accomplishments. And it sounds like 293 00:16:37.519 --> 00:16:40.039 to me a perfect way to start the winter, perfect 294 00:16:40.039 --> 00:16:42.320 way to end the fall. And a perfect way to 295 00:16:42.360 --> 00:16:46.240 spend a Thanksgiving weekend. Amy, I appreciate you being available tonight. 296 00:16:46.480 --> 00:16:50.559 I very much appreciate that. And whenever you're doing up something, 297 00:16:50.600 --> 00:16:53.320 whenever you're doing something up in Killington, you let us 298 00:16:53.320 --> 00:16:55.279 know and we'll give you a little bit of publicity 299 00:16:55.320 --> 00:16:55.519 on her. 300 00:16:55.519 --> 00:16:58.799 Okay, that sounds great. Thank you for having me tonight. 301 00:16:59.840 --> 00:17:02.840 Welcome again. Give us the website one more time so 302 00:17:02.879 --> 00:17:06.599 that people, uh direct them to where they get the tickets. 303 00:17:06.640 --> 00:17:08.440 What's what is the specific. 304 00:17:07.920 --> 00:17:14.319 Website Killington Killington dot com. Backslash World cup Boys. 305 00:17:14.400 --> 00:17:17.559 That's pretty easy. That's that's good. Thank you so much. 306 00:17:17.599 --> 00:17:18.920 We try and make things easy. 307 00:17:19.599 --> 00:17:23.400 Well, absolutely, Amy Laramie, the director of Brand Marketing and 308 00:17:23.440 --> 00:17:27.359 Events from the Killington Resort in Killington, Vermont. And when 309 00:17:27.359 --> 00:17:29.519 you think about it, I mean, we're getting close to 310 00:17:29.559 --> 00:17:31.640 the end of September. There's only a couple of months away, 311 00:17:31.759 --> 00:17:37.960 so get your up here. Oh I wish I hadn't 312 00:17:37.960 --> 00:17:40.960 said that. Oh no, no, that's okay, No, No, it's 313 00:17:41.039 --> 00:17:45.279 just that it's like, I'm a summer guy. My brother 314 00:17:45.480 --> 00:17:49.000 and his wife are great skiers, uh, and they're up 315 00:17:49.319 --> 00:17:52.799 up there in New Hampshire and Vermont. You know, most 316 00:17:52.839 --> 00:17:56.519 of the winter I like to kind of sit by 317 00:17:56.519 --> 00:17:58.680 the fire in the lodge, and that's that's the most 318 00:17:59.640 --> 00:18:05.480 that's the that's my best wind. Yeah, that's my winter activity. 319 00:18:05.799 --> 00:18:07.920 Thanks again, Amy, enjoyed you very much. 320 00:18:07.960 --> 00:18:08.920 Thank you for talking again. 321 00:18:09.000 --> 00:18:12.319 You're very welcome. Okay, when we get back, we're going 322 00:18:12.359 --> 00:18:14.799 to talk about a little bit more serious subject, and 323 00:18:14.839 --> 00:18:18.400 that is keeping Calm and Coping with Grief. Nine chapters 324 00:18:18.400 --> 00:18:20.759 for managing fear and grief for losing a parent or 325 00:18:20.759 --> 00:18:23.920 a loved one. We'll talk with an author coming up, 326 00:18:24.079 --> 00:18:29.240 Richard Allen. He'll have a lot to say. It will 327 00:18:29.279 --> 00:18:32.160 not be as much fun as a Killington ski event, 328 00:18:32.319 --> 00:18:34.759 but it's something we all need to at some point 329 00:18:34.799 --> 00:18:37.319 in our lives cope with. Back on Nightside right after 330 00:18:37.359 --> 00:18:38.559 the News at the bottom. 331 00:18:38.240 --> 00:18:40.960 Of the hour, it's night Side. 332 00:18:44.039 --> 00:18:49.480 News Radio. All right. My next guest is Richard John Allen. 333 00:18:50.559 --> 00:18:55.440 He's a published author specializing in grief books. Richard, how 334 00:18:55.440 --> 00:18:59.200 do you become an author specializing in grief books? There 335 00:18:59.279 --> 00:19:01.359 must have been a story or how you came to 336 00:19:03.119 --> 00:19:05.200 write about a pretty tough subject. 337 00:19:06.480 --> 00:19:10.359 That's a great question, Dan Well Sadly, for me, it 338 00:19:10.440 --> 00:19:14.079 was because I lost my father to cancer, and my 339 00:19:14.160 --> 00:19:17.079 dad died in twenty twenty, and at the time, I 340 00:19:17.119 --> 00:19:20.680 was waiting for one of America's largest insurance companies. I've 341 00:19:20.720 --> 00:19:23.799 been there fifteen years. I believe I had a successful 342 00:19:23.799 --> 00:19:27.640 career there. But when I lost my father, I was gutted. 343 00:19:27.640 --> 00:19:32.319 I was devastated. And it was my wife, Alison who 344 00:19:32.359 --> 00:19:35.640 suggested that I should write a book about grief, about 345 00:19:35.680 --> 00:19:39.960 what I was going through. And fortunately for me, Dan, 346 00:19:40.079 --> 00:19:43.279 I'd never lost anybody so close to me like my dad, 347 00:19:43.440 --> 00:19:46.480 and I'd never suffered grief before, so this was a 348 00:19:46.519 --> 00:19:49.119 new emotion for me. I didn't know what to do. 349 00:19:49.359 --> 00:19:51.200 I didn't know how to handle it, cop with it. 350 00:19:51.680 --> 00:19:54.720 I didn't know how to arrange the funeral, how to 351 00:19:54.759 --> 00:19:57.279 read the will. There were so many things that were 352 00:19:57.319 --> 00:19:59.960 foreign to me, and I was terrified. And of course, 353 00:20:00.079 --> 00:20:02.640 throughout all of that, I was in so much pain 354 00:20:02.680 --> 00:20:03.920 because I just lost my dad. 355 00:20:04.799 --> 00:20:07.119 So how old was your dad when he passed. 356 00:20:07.960 --> 00:20:11.680 He was seventy nine, which wasn't too old, I guess right. 357 00:20:11.680 --> 00:20:14.200 I don't think that sounds young to me. That sounds 358 00:20:14.240 --> 00:20:17.720 young to me, Richard. I obviously you were close with 359 00:20:17.759 --> 00:20:24.400 your dad, so out of that horrific experience came this book, 360 00:20:24.720 --> 00:20:28.519 Keep Calm and Cope with Grief, nine chapters for managing 361 00:20:28.559 --> 00:20:32.119 fear and grief when losing a parent or a loved one. 362 00:20:33.119 --> 00:20:36.400 I know you can't tell us all of the secrets 363 00:20:36.440 --> 00:20:40.200 of the book in a relatively brief interview, but give 364 00:20:40.279 --> 00:20:42.440 us either an overview or tell us a couple of 365 00:20:42.480 --> 00:20:44.759 things that people might learn from the book. I hope 366 00:20:44.759 --> 00:20:47.480 some of them will buy it so when grief does 367 00:20:47.559 --> 00:20:49.920 hit their family, they'll be able to have this as 368 00:20:50.000 --> 00:20:53.559 a as a guide through and coping with grief. 369 00:20:55.319 --> 00:20:57.759 Actually, Dan, you just summed it up. It is a guide. 370 00:20:58.039 --> 00:21:01.359 I have written five books, you know, and again my 371 00:21:01.400 --> 00:21:04.319 wife has put me on this path. I'm on a janey. 372 00:21:04.319 --> 00:21:08.680 It's like a quest I wanted answers. You know, I'm 373 00:21:08.720 --> 00:21:11.960 a Catholic. I've got strong faith, but believe it or not, 374 00:21:12.000 --> 00:21:13.559 I wanted to proof on it. Doesn't know where my 375 00:21:13.640 --> 00:21:16.720 dad was. So looking back now at my first book, 376 00:21:16.799 --> 00:21:19.480 Keep Calm and Cope with Grief, as you just said, 377 00:21:19.559 --> 00:21:22.480 it really is a guide. It's a guide for somebody 378 00:21:22.759 --> 00:21:25.480 who has just lost a loved one, and it's also 379 00:21:25.519 --> 00:21:28.440 a guide for somebody who is about to lose a 380 00:21:28.480 --> 00:21:31.440 loved one. So whether it's you personally, or whether it's 381 00:21:31.480 --> 00:21:34.119 a friend or somebody else that you know who may 382 00:21:34.160 --> 00:21:36.480 be about to lose a loved one, I believe this 383 00:21:36.519 --> 00:21:39.119 is a great guide for them because, as I mentioned before, 384 00:21:39.160 --> 00:21:42.039 I'd never gone through this before, and there's so much 385 00:21:42.079 --> 00:21:45.559 to deal with. My mother is still alive, and when 386 00:21:45.599 --> 00:21:49.200 we lost our dad, she was left with paying the 387 00:21:49.200 --> 00:21:53.160 bills for the house, organizing everything, and it was traumatic 388 00:21:53.200 --> 00:21:55.839 for him that of course too, So in my book 389 00:21:56.160 --> 00:22:00.000 I touch on that too. I mean, we suddenly realize 390 00:22:00.079 --> 00:22:02.079 is that losing a loved one doesn't just affect you, 391 00:22:02.200 --> 00:22:06.160 it affects everybody around you, right, And this book is 392 00:22:06.200 --> 00:22:09.400 a guide to help you go through that step by step. 393 00:22:09.680 --> 00:22:12.279 I also put you on signs from loved ones, because 394 00:22:12.759 --> 00:22:15.000 to this day, I still get signs for my dad, 395 00:22:15.519 --> 00:22:17.319 which is a whole other story. We could talk for 396 00:22:17.440 --> 00:22:19.599 hours about that and about life. 397 00:22:19.799 --> 00:22:24.079 Touched on that just briefly, you obviously, and I do believe. 398 00:22:24.160 --> 00:22:28.359 I happen to be a believer as well and never 399 00:22:28.440 --> 00:22:31.839 ashamed to talk about my belief. And it sounds like 400 00:22:31.839 --> 00:22:35.880 you're not ashamed to talk about your belief. I would 401 00:22:35.880 --> 00:22:40.359