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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand.

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<v Speaker 2>I am justin Worsham.

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<v Speaker 3>For those of you that are long term KFI listeners,

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<v Speaker 3>you probably may recognize my name. Back in I think

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<v Speaker 3>it was twenty fifteen, I got the job as the

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<v Speaker 3>board op for the Bill Handle Show in the morning.

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<v Speaker 3>I did that for a couple years, and then management

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<v Speaker 3>at the time felt I made the show sound too silly,

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<v Speaker 3>and so I looked for another gig and Gary and

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<v Speaker 3>Shannon were kind enough to have me on their show.

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<v Speaker 3>So Wednesdays from eleven thirty to noon, I am on

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<v Speaker 3>their show talking parenting. But that is not what I

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<v Speaker 3>am here today to talk to you about. That is

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<v Speaker 3>my little bit of my background in radio. But what

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<v Speaker 3>I'm here to talk to about we're doing a real

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<v Speaker 3>estate Southern California real estate talk show. So when I

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<v Speaker 3>left radio, I got my I had my real estate

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<v Speaker 3>license in twenty thirteen because I wanted to get into

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<v Speaker 3>property management. I did that for about four years. That's

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<v Speaker 3>actually how I saved up for the house I bought

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<v Speaker 3>in Bourbank, California. Anybody out there, especially if you're here

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<v Speaker 3>for the entertainment industry, look into property management. It's a

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<v Speaker 3>great way to find affordable housing. In most cases, you

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<v Speaker 3>could live for free in a place, and I was

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<v Speaker 3>maybe putting twenty hours in a month managing that place,

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<v Speaker 3>and I was getting a free twenty one hundred dollars

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<v Speaker 3>a month apartment.

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<v Speaker 2>It was awesome.

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<v Speaker 3>When radio did not look like a good option for me,

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<v Speaker 3>I thought that real estate would be a backup. Like

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sure most realtors out there who are listening can

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<v Speaker 3>agree to. Very few people grow up going I want

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<v Speaker 3>to be a realtor when they're in elementary school, and

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<v Speaker 3>it actually became the career that I loved, and it's

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<v Speaker 3>something that I wish I had done since I was twenty.

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<v Speaker 3>So I got my license to twenty thirteen, started me.

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<v Speaker 3>I was a real a full time agent. In twenty eighteen,

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<v Speaker 3>got my broker's license, and now I own and operate

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<v Speaker 3>my own real estate brokerage here in southern California. And

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<v Speaker 3>the first thing I wanted to talk about today, we're

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<v Speaker 3>going through questions that I get a lot as a realtor,

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<v Speaker 3>and so I'm hoping that you guys will find this

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<v Speaker 3>interesting because these are kind of ranked in the most

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<v Speaker 3>common questions. The biggest one that comes up now is

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<v Speaker 3>that there's a misunderstanding about how realtors, particularly realtors that

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<v Speaker 3>are representing a buyer, get paid in this market. A

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<v Speaker 3>lot of people think that there was a law change.

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<v Speaker 3>There was no law change. It wasn't a legal change.

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<v Speaker 3>Everything is exactly the same from a legal standpoint. What

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<v Speaker 3>happened was that there was a settlement made with the

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<v Speaker 3>National Association of Realtors due to a class action lawsuit

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<v Speaker 3>that originated in Missouri, and they settled for I think

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<v Speaker 3>is somewhere around four billion dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>That's irrelevant.

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<v Speaker 3>What was happening in those states is that the listing

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<v Speaker 3>agreements that sellers were signing did not disclose that part

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<v Speaker 3>of the commission they were paying their realtor to sell

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<v Speaker 3>their house was going to their competitor, the buyer's agent,

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<v Speaker 3>and so they weren't aware of that. In California, we've

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<v Speaker 3>always had that, But part of the settlement was we

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<v Speaker 3>had to remove the commission, or what we call in

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<v Speaker 3>the real estate industry the cooperation element, from our multiple

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<v Speaker 3>listing service or mls. So no longer when I list

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<v Speaker 3>the house can I say I'm going to give this

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<v Speaker 3>buyer's agent two and a half percent. That's not how

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<v Speaker 3>it works anymore. So then now people believe that they

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<v Speaker 3>have to pay their buyer's agent, And in most cases,

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<v Speaker 3>that's not what I'm seeing, at least in the market,

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<v Speaker 3>not what I'm hearing from any of my friends in

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<v Speaker 3>the industry either. Everything is basically functioning exactly the same

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<v Speaker 3>way it was before, only now a buyer's agent has

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<v Speaker 3>to have a conversation with a buyer ahead of time

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<v Speaker 3>to explain this, where before you never really did that,

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<v Speaker 3>or at least most of us I would argue didn't.

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<v Speaker 3>And you also have to have a buyer representation agreement

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<v Speaker 3>in place, and that's because I can't just go pick

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<v Speaker 3>a house that's available and put it on the market

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<v Speaker 3>to try to sell it. I have to have a

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<v Speaker 3>contract with that seller. And this new change means that

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<v Speaker 3>when you're representing a buyer, I can't just go out

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<v Speaker 3>and show them houses and expect to be entitled to

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<v Speaker 3>a commission. So I need to have an agreement in

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<v Speaker 3>place between the two of us. And now they've even

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<v Speaker 3>streamlined even better, and it's getting better that you put

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<v Speaker 3>in the contract what your buyer's agent is going to

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<v Speaker 3>get paid for. Instance, I usually ask about two and

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<v Speaker 3>a half percent. In my experience, that's about the most

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<v Speaker 3>that you get. We're not supposed to talk about like

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<v Speaker 3>commissions and break it down because it seems like we're

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<v Speaker 3>rigging the industry. But I'm just giving you averages here,

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<v Speaker 3>not making any kind of suggestions or saying that these

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<v Speaker 3>are hard lines. This is just general blanket statements. And

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<v Speaker 3>so I submit an offer, and in some cases a

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<v Speaker 3>seller might come back and say, I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 3>give you two and a half percent, but I'll give

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<v Speaker 3>you two percent, And that's up to you as the agent,

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<v Speaker 3>and you and the buyer and everybody I have had

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<v Speaker 3>on the listing side. Recently, I had an agent who

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<v Speaker 3>submitted an offer and they said that they wanted my client,

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<v Speaker 3>the seller, to pay three percent. When I presented that

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<v Speaker 3>to the seller, the seller was like, that seems a

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<v Speaker 3>bit high. I gave him the rite info. I said,

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<v Speaker 3>based on averages that I've seen, yeah, that's high. Usually

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<v Speaker 3>on the higher end it's two and a half percent.

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<v Speaker 3>So my seller countered back and said, we'll give you

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<v Speaker 3>two and a half percent, but we're not going to

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<v Speaker 3>give you three. The agent said, I've been working with

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<v Speaker 3>these guys for a long time, so I think I'm

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<v Speaker 3>entitled to three percent, And with all due respect to

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<v Speaker 3>that agent, what I told him is like, well, I

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<v Speaker 3>will take that to my seller, but I believe that

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<v Speaker 3>that's not my seller's problem, right, my seller should not

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<v Speaker 3>be paying you for the time that this buyer took

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<v Speaker 3>to find a house. So that's to me. An added

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<v Speaker 3>benefit of this change is that sure should there's now

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<v Speaker 3>there's this added layer of negotiation, which was actually the

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<v Speaker 3>intent of the lawsuit. They just wanted everything to be negotiable.

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<v Speaker 3>I also think that their intent was that they thought

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<v Speaker 3>realtors are the reason why housing is so unaffordable in

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<v Speaker 3>general in other places, and I just I think that's insane.

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<v Speaker 3>I just don't see how realtors have that much of

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<v Speaker 3>an impact on the housing market, and I would love

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<v Speaker 3>to find out more. If you disagree with me, you

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<v Speaker 3>can go ahead and hit the talkback feature on the

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<v Speaker 3>iHeart app and send me a message about that. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>also looking to see if you're hearing from people who

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<v Speaker 3>are leaving California or you left California. I want to

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<v Speaker 3>know why, because we're going to be talking about that

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit later on Also I'm going to talk about,

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<v Speaker 3>because this is the next big question that I get,

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<v Speaker 3>is that the impact that the fires have had that unfortunate, horrible,

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<v Speaker 3>horrible incident that we had in January. There's a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of belief, much like other things, like when the pandemic happened.

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<v Speaker 3>Everybody was like, this is going to be the thing

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<v Speaker 3>that changes the housing prices in southern California, and so

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<v Speaker 3>far we're not seeing it. So when we come back,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to talk more about why I think that

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<v Speaker 3>the fires are not going to have the impact that

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<v Speaker 3>most people out there trying to buy a home and

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<v Speaker 3>live that American dream in southern California, they're not going

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<v Speaker 3>to see those prices come down the way that they would.

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<v Speaker 1>Hope you're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand.

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<v Speaker 3>When I was a kid in elementary school, I wanted

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<v Speaker 3>to be a stand up comic. I was fortunate enough

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<v Speaker 3>to work the road for like seven years, but when

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<v Speaker 3>I got into middle school, Oh, I wanted to be

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<v Speaker 3>a radio shost That would be such a fun gig, right,

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<v Speaker 3>And so at least I'm getting to try it out

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<v Speaker 3>for two hours today, and then we got two hours

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<v Speaker 3>again next Sunday from two to four, still talking Southern

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<v Speaker 3>California real estates. I feel like it's going Okay, did

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<v Speaker 3>one segment.

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<v Speaker 2>The real test is yeah, in school grade school, was

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<v Speaker 2>your citizenship excessive talking? Oh, yes, for sure. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I always I'd always got good grades, but never had

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<v Speaker 3>satisfactory citizenship.

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<v Speaker 2>It was always us.

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<v Speaker 3>Everything was unsatisfactory as far as my behavior in the

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<v Speaker 3>classroom perfect. So now I want to talk about the

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<v Speaker 3>other question I get a lot is the fires. And

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<v Speaker 3>what I believe this comes from is if you're out

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<v Speaker 3>there and you're trying to buy a house in southern

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<v Speaker 3>California right now, it just sucks like there's nothing, there's.

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<v Speaker 2>Nothing good about it.

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<v Speaker 3>I hear from clients when I'm helping them find a

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<v Speaker 3>house all the time that they're like, who pays this

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<v Speaker 3>much money for a house? When I started in real

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<v Speaker 3>estate and kind of my home area of Burbank, that's

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<v Speaker 3>where I live, the median house price was around nine

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<v Speaker 3>hundred and fifty thousand dollars and now it's one point

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<v Speaker 3>four million dollars and it is insane. Don't get me wrong,

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<v Speaker 3>it's crazy. And so everybody likes to try to find

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<v Speaker 3>these things they're hoping, they're dreaming that something is going

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<v Speaker 3>to change that. And we're going to talk about affordability later,

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<v Speaker 3>but I want to lead into what I think is

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<v Speaker 3>going on behind these fires, and I think what really

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<v Speaker 3>started this whole thing, in my opinion, is that as

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<v Speaker 3>soon as they happened, there were a lot of reality

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<v Speaker 3>TV stars that are on these like real estate shows.

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<v Speaker 3>I think the million dollar listing guys, I think they

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<v Speaker 3>do pretty well, but most of the other shows that

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<v Speaker 3>I've looked into, I could go in the MLS and

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<v Speaker 3>I could look and see what they do in production,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's not a lot, so they're very good being

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<v Speaker 3>television people. But I saw a lot of people being

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<v Speaker 3>good at being reality TV stars and saying this is

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<v Speaker 3>going to change the market.

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<v Speaker 2>My phone is blowing up. And maybe it's.

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<v Speaker 3>Because I help what I would consider to be more

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<v Speaker 3>middle to upper middle class clientele, and I'm not a

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<v Speaker 3>luxury agent. The most expensive house I've sold so far

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<v Speaker 3>was a five million dollar, humongous, beautiful place in Tarzana,

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<v Speaker 3>and then from there it's usually around one to one

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<v Speaker 3>point two million on average, So maybe that's why. But

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<v Speaker 3>I think all of this started because the overregulation of

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<v Speaker 3>the insurance industry by the state of California. They were

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<v Speaker 3>trying to make it a thing where insurance companies were

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<v Speaker 3>charging the same for everybody, regardless of their risk assessment,

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<v Speaker 3>and they thought that that would make it more affordable

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<v Speaker 3>for people to get insurance for their homes. And I

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<v Speaker 3>think they also thought somehow that that would somehow make

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<v Speaker 3>it more affordable, like I think they thought that that

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<v Speaker 3>was part of the reason why houses cost so much more.

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<v Speaker 3>They love to I've noticed they love to blame other industries.

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<v Speaker 3>They don't want to blame the legislation. They don't want

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<v Speaker 3>to blame like I've heard from developers, it's fifty thousand

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<v Speaker 3>dollars before just to get start the process of doing

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<v Speaker 3>a development or making a building, before you even put

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<v Speaker 3>a shovel in the ground. And they have all these

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<v Speaker 3>impact survey or environmental impact survey, so you have to

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<v Speaker 3>do all these studies, and it just it doesn't help

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<v Speaker 3>when they get overregulated in that way. So in California

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<v Speaker 3>to fix that, because then what started happening.

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<v Speaker 2>The first one I heard was State Farm.

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<v Speaker 3>They were the first one to start saying, we're not

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<v Speaker 3>writing policies in California anymore, and so they came up

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<v Speaker 3>with the California Fair Plan, So it's a subsidized fire

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<v Speaker 2>And I looked into it.

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<v Speaker 3>Only twenty two percent of the structures in the Pacific

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<v Speaker 3>Palisades Fire and only twelve percent of the ructors in

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<v Speaker 3>the Eton Fire were actually covered by the California Fair

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<v Speaker 3>Plan for Palisades.

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<v Speaker 2>That's they're estimating.

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<v Speaker 3>That's four billion dollars in costs to replace those properties

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<v Speaker 3>or in damage, and the Eton Fire at seven hundred

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<v Speaker 3>and seventy five million, So sixteen thousand structures were lost

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<v Speaker 3>during those fires. Horrible tragedy. I hope I'm not being

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<v Speaker 3>from just a strictly numbers. They take the emotion out

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<v Speaker 3>of it, take the trauma out of it. There's an

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<v Speaker 3>organization that I found in preparation for the show called SKAG.

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<v Speaker 3>get together and they share resources, they share information and

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<v Speaker 3>they make plans for all of us that live here

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<v Speaker 2>Back in March of twenty twenty one.

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<v Speaker 3>They adopted what they call the six cycle of the RHNA,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's the Regional Housing Oh man, I'm blanking on

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<v Speaker 3>that s assessment. It's basically what they said is, these

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<v Speaker 3>are the amount of new houses that we need to

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<v Speaker 3>bring to the market in order to meet the growing demand.

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<v Speaker 3>And right now they have a projected plan in order

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<v Speaker 3>to meet the demand. Again, this is just to meet

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<v Speaker 3>the demand that they see of one zero point three

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<v Speaker 3>million housing units by twenty twenty nine. There is no

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<v Speaker 3>way that the loss of sixteen thousand units and those

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<v Speaker 3>because of just the limit of land availability, legally they

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<v Speaker 3>only could do about four hundred thousand of those one

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<v Speaker 3>point three million units that are needed. That's our bigger

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<v Speaker 3>issue here, that's the problem. That's why even with these

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<v Speaker 3>high interest rates. I looked into it too crazy appreciation

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<v Speaker 3>in both Orange County and in Los Angeles County. That's

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<v Speaker 3>not what's supposed to happen. When the interest rates went

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<v Speaker 3>up a couple of years ago, it's supposed to drop

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<v Speaker 3>the prices. That's what's supposed to happen. And we didn't

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<v Speaker 3>see it happen. And everybody's like, why, why, Why isn't

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<v Speaker 3>this happening? And I really believe it's because we still

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<v Speaker 3>don't have enough houses car The California Association Realtors also

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<v Speaker 3>commission to study. I tried to find it because I

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<v Speaker 3>saw a webinar on it like two years ago and

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<v Speaker 3>I was fascinated by it. They did this webinar where

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<v Speaker 3>they researched major markets all over the US, and what

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<v Speaker 3>they found is that if you live in an area

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<v Speaker 3>of high population density or high desirability. It's important to

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<v Speaker 3>note that high population density or high desirability, so it

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't even have to be dense with a lot of people.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just if this is a place people want to

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<v Speaker 3>live and the primary housing option is in the larger

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<v Speaker 3>percentage is what they call R one, a residential essentially

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<v Speaker 3>a single family home, the home that you grew up

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<v Speaker 3>in right, not an apartment building, not a condo, not

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<v Speaker 3>a town home, just a single family, standalone home across

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<v Speaker 3>the board. Those areas have an affordability issue, So you

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<v Speaker 3>have to be able to build up. You have to

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<v Speaker 3>go up. You can't have a ton of houses there.

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<v Speaker 3>You can't do these large swaths of single family neighborhood.

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<v Speaker 3>Anybody who's flown into lax or a Hollywood airport in

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<v Speaker 3>Burbank and you look over the La basin, it is

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<v Speaker 3>just a ton of single family neighborhoods. And that's where

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<v Speaker 3>in my experience, everybody wants to be able to live

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<v Speaker 3>in a single family home. Nobody wants to live like

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<v Speaker 3>they're in New York. Only New Yorkers are fine living

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<v Speaker 3>in condos that I've seen. They like the building living

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<v Speaker 3>and a lot of cases sometimes even single ladies, they

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<v Speaker 3>make it. They feel like it makes them feel more safe,

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<v Speaker 3>they feel more connected to the people, and they're enclosed

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<v Speaker 3>and I don't know, it's like a warm blanket that

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<v Speaker 3>covers them. So my opinion that there is not going

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<v Speaker 3>to be an impact on a housing or the cost

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<v Speaker 3>of housing from the fires. Unfortunately, honestly, I know that

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<v Speaker 3>this may not be popular amongst people who already own

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<v Speaker 3>their homes, and maybe even some realtors. Although if you're

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<v Speaker 3>a relter and you don't like the fact what I'm

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<v Speaker 3>about to say, I would love to have a conversation

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<v Speaker 3>with you. I would love for there to be of

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<v Speaker 3>housing correction. I would love for prices to drop, because

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<v Speaker 3>the affordability here in California is just it's awful. It's awful,

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<v Speaker 3>and I do plan to talk about that in the

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<v Speaker 3>next hour. I want to talk more about what it is. Why,

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<v Speaker 3>like what can we do to make houses more affordable?

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<v Speaker 3>And I mean to give it to you in a

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<v Speaker 3>Nutshell'll dig it into a deeper later on. We just

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<v Speaker 3>need more houses. It's not realtors. It's not the cost

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<v Speaker 3>of insurance, it's not natural disasters, it's none of that.

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<v Speaker 3>It is basic supply and demand. And for whatever reason,

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<v Speaker 3>the legislators can't wrap their mind around that.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the easiest way to fix it. You have to

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<v Speaker 2>find a way to make.

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<v Speaker 3>It easier for developers who build new construction homes to

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<v Speaker 3>make money doing it, and they will fix your problem

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<v Speaker 3>for you.

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<v Speaker 2>Why.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's the other thing with these fires, The thing

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<v Speaker 3>that was blowing my mind and that's what I started

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<v Speaker 3>to talk about with the insurance stuff, is that when

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<v Speaker 3>these insurance companies started looking at the way things were

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<v Speaker 3>going in California and they were running the numbers, they

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<v Speaker 3>started to say, we're not writing new policies. And that's

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<v Speaker 3>because the entire function of their industry, the way that

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<v Speaker 3>they make a profit, is assessing risk. And so I'm

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<v Speaker 3>sure that they didn't know to the day, or they

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<v Speaker 3>didn't know when it was going to happen, but they

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<v Speaker 3>had a very strong idea that something was going to

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<v Speaker 3>go horribly wrong for their industry, and they didn't want

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<v Speaker 3>to get caught up on it. They wanted to mitigate

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<v Speaker 3>that risk as much as they could. And so that's

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<v Speaker 3>why they stopped writing policies in California, because they knew

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<v Speaker 3>something was going to happen. And we should have looked

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<v Speaker 3>at that as like a canary in the coal mine.

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<v Speaker 3>We should have said, oh, maybe there's something wrong with

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<v Speaker 3>the way we're handling homeowners insurance in the state of California.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe it shouldn't be that regulated again.

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<v Speaker 3>If I would love to hear from you, hit that

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<v Speaker 3>little microphone on the iHeartRadio app and I want to

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<v Speaker 3>hear the talkback. I want to know if you left

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<v Speaker 3>to know why, and I also want to know where

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<v Speaker 3>you went, where you're going let me know. We're going

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<v Speaker 3>to be talking about the difference. You hear what advertise

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<v Speaker 3>you see them on television. When we come back, we're

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<v Speaker 3>going to talk more about these what I call wholesalers.

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<v Speaker 3>These are great people who give you the option of

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<v Speaker 3>like I'm just going to pay you cash for your house,

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<v Speaker 3>no contingencies, know nothing, and I'm going to make it

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<v Speaker 3>versus using someone like me, a realtor. We're going to

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand.

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<v Speaker 2>This is justin Worsham.

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<v Speaker 3>We're talking southern California real estate. If you're just joining us,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a licensed real estate broker, former KFI board op

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<v Speaker 3>and producer and just general I just was listening at

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<v Speaker 3>last promo. I have an unhealthy I think love for

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<v Speaker 3>Gary and Shannon, like I just think they're just they're

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<v Speaker 3>They've done a lot for me, so I got a

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<v Speaker 2>They're great people and I just love their show so much.

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<v Speaker 3>Robin, I understand we had somebody who was nice enough

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<v Speaker 3>to take advantage of the talkback Can we hear that?

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<v Speaker 2>Can you help me with that? Please?

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<v Speaker 4>Hello, great idea for a show I would like to know.

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<v Speaker 4>Is it true if you house is on the market

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<v Speaker 4>for more than sixty days, you as the buyer lose

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you, that's a great question from Kathleen. Thanks for

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<v Speaker 3>using the talkback feature. If you also have a question,

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<v Speaker 2>Now. I'm going to guess that probably much.

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<v Speaker 3>I hope it's not coming through, but I would be

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<v Speaker 3>lying if I didn't say I was a little bit nervous.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm weirdly enough, I'm nervous because I felt like I

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<v Speaker 3>would be more nervous when I don't know if I

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<v Speaker 3>told you this when I first started the show the

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<v Speaker 3>first time I ran the board Robin, You'll get an

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<v Speaker 3>amusement out of this. The first time I went to

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<v Speaker 3>just hit the first button to fire into the lead

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<v Speaker 3>of the show, I blanked on all of the training,

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<v Speaker 3>had no idea. I thought I forgot everything how everything worked,

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<v Speaker 3>and I almost passed out and got lightheaded.

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<v Speaker 2>And I have zero of that right now.

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<v Speaker 3>I almost feel weirdly too comfortable, which it brings its

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<v Speaker 3>zone sets of nerves. But I think, Kathleen, the reason

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<v Speaker 3>you're asking your question about sixty days negotiating for a buyer,

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<v Speaker 3>what you meant is as a seller. And here's why

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna say that. I'm gonna answer both ways, just

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<v Speaker 3>to be fair. If you are a buyer and you

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<v Speaker 3>are looking at a house that has been on the

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<v Speaker 3>days on the market in California were twenty eight during

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<v Speaker 3>the pandemic at its peak, it was like six to

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<v Speaker 3>seven half of the homes in California during like twenty twenty,

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<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty one in California, the entire state, we're selling

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<v Speaker 3>in less than a week. It was crazy times. And

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<v Speaker 3>now what's hard is that when you help sellers, they're

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<v Speaker 3>not used to it. Like, I have a listing right

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<v Speaker 3>now in Burbank that is priced below any other three bedroom,

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<v Speaker 3>two bath home in Burbank, and it's We've been on

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<v Speaker 3>the market for two weeks now, and I'm telling my

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<v Speaker 3>seller now is not the time to be nervous because

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<v Speaker 3>they're used to the old market. So if you have

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<v Speaker 3>and you are the seller, I would argue, yes, you're

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<v Speaker 3>probably losing some of your negotiating power because you don't

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<v Speaker 3>have a lot of offers that are coming in. If

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<v Speaker 3>you are listing your house, always trust your agent, right

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<v Speaker 3>because there's a reason why you have that relationship.

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<v Speaker 3>So I wouldn't necessarily feel comfortable arguing with them about

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<v Speaker 3>your circumstance because I don't know it. But let's say

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<v Speaker 3>you were my client and you had a house somewhere

425
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<v Speaker 3>in the LA area or even Orange County that had

426
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<v Speaker 3>been on the market for sixty days and you've had

427
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<v Speaker 3>zero offers. Usually your first issue is you got a

428
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<v Speaker 3>price issue. That means you're overpriced. Now, what happened with

429
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<v Speaker 3>the interest rates when they came up in Oh, I'm

430
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<v Speaker 3>blanket on the air, I want to say it was

431
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<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty two. I think that's when the March of

432
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<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty two is. Want to say the rates jumped up.

433
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<v Speaker 3>The biggest segment of the market that was impacted were

434
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<v Speaker 3>condos and townhomes because they are the lower priced option.

435
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<v Speaker 3>So if you were somebody who was looking for a

436
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<v Speaker 3>four to six hundred thousand dollars condo or town home

437
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<v Speaker 3>in southern California, a lot of your competitors or competition

438
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<v Speaker 3>got priced out of the market.

439
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<v Speaker 2>They just couldn't afford it anymore.

440
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<v Speaker 3>I was helping a young couple and they were capped

441
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<v Speaker 3>out at four to twenty five, and so we were

442
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<v Speaker 3>trying to help them find a two bedroom condo up

443
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<v Speaker 3>in Canyon Country, Anna Clarita area, and if the rates

444
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<v Speaker 3>ticked up another half a point, they're like, we can't

445
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<v Speaker 3>buy a house anymore. So now what's happening in that

446
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<v Speaker 3>segment of the market is if you have a condo

447
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<v Speaker 3>or a town home, it's stacking up. And so, just

448
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<v Speaker 3>like I've said before, it's basic supply and demand economics.

449
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<v Speaker 3>The more supply, the more town homes and condos that

450
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<v Speaker 3>keep adding to that area. Then that means that there's

451
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<v Speaker 3>more supply than there are people looking to buy it,

452
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<v Speaker 3>and so naturally the price just kind of comes down.

453
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<v Speaker 2>So I'm going to flip it.

454
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<v Speaker 3>Though, So as a buyer, if the place has been there,

455
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<v Speaker 3>I feel like it gives you more negotiating power because

456
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<v Speaker 3>chances are at that point. I usually recommend clients do

457
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<v Speaker 3>about twenty thousand dollars no more than that below list

458
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<v Speaker 3>to start a conversation. But the better way to do

459
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<v Speaker 3>it is to have your realtor pull comps on it.

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<v Speaker 3>Comparable market analysis. We call them comps for short. It's

461
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<v Speaker 3>when they look for houses that are similar to the

462
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<v Speaker 3>house that's on the property.

463
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<v Speaker 2>They call that the subject property.

464
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<v Speaker 3>A good realtor is using the same kind of criteria

465
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<v Speaker 3>that an appraiser would use to assess the value on

466
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<v Speaker 3>the property for a loan if it was under contract

467
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<v Speaker 3>or an escrow. So you're going to look at that

468
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<v Speaker 3>to see is the house overpriced, and then try to

469
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<v Speaker 3>find it. Very rarely do I come across houses when

470
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<v Speaker 3>I'm representing buyers where the seller just has like an

471
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<v Speaker 3>unreasonable Like by unreasonable, I mean crazy unreasonable, like hundreds

472
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<v Speaker 3>of thousands of dollars above where it should be. Sometimes

473
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<v Speaker 3>what you'll see is a flip will sometimes have that

474
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<v Speaker 3>because they probably they just underestimated the construction or rehab

475
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<v Speaker 3>costs when they were flipping and updating the house.

476
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<v Speaker 2>If you don't know what a flip is, it's where

477
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<v Speaker 2>you buy what we would.

478
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<v Speaker 3>Call distressed home, a dump, a fixer, just something that

479
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<v Speaker 3>probably most people wouldn't want to live in unless that's

480
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<v Speaker 3>all they could afford in southern California, because it's so

481
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<v Speaker 3>impossible to find something affordable, and you buy that and

482
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<v Speaker 3>then you renovate it, you fix it, and then you'd

483
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<v Speaker 3>sell it for more. So you see that where usually

484
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<v Speaker 3>it's like the builders like I just have to get

485
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<v Speaker 3>this to cover my nut, Like this is what I

486
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<v Speaker 3>need to get out of this house in order to

487
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<v Speaker 3>pull that off.

488
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<v Speaker 2>So I don't think and then I guess.

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<v Speaker 3>The one thing I want to just clarify too is

490
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<v Speaker 3>negotiating tactics.

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<v Speaker 2>I just want to be clear, like I don't.

492
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<v Speaker 3>Think you should you shouldn't go into buying a house

493
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<v Speaker 3>like offering high I've had a lot of signs that

494
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<v Speaker 3>come up as a listing agent where people come in

495
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<v Speaker 3>and like, we're just going to offer high and then

496
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<v Speaker 3>we're going to talk them down. The other thing that

497
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<v Speaker 3>buyers love to do is they love to come at

498
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<v Speaker 3>me and say, here's the thing. We're going to counter

499
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<v Speaker 3>back with the lowest number, and then they'll come back

500
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<v Speaker 3>with the highest number. And I mean this with all

501
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<v Speaker 3>the kindness and love in my heart, but you are

502
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<v Speaker 3>not the first person to think of that. That is

503
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<v Speaker 3>not how negotiation traditionally works in real estate. I'm not

504
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<v Speaker 3>saying it never worked. I'm just saying that your odds

505
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<v Speaker 3>of success with that are very little because what I've

506
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<v Speaker 3>seen happen more often than you get that number you're

507
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<v Speaker 3>looking for is now you've just made that seller angry,

508
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<v Speaker 3>especially now where technically we should be trending for prices

509
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<v Speaker 3>coming down, and all we're really seeing is houses are

510
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<v Speaker 3>taking longer to sell. So if you got a seller

511
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<v Speaker 3>as an idea of what they should be getting in

512
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<v Speaker 3>their mind, and now they're not going to get that

513
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<v Speaker 3>price and they're just sitting there or they're already in

514
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<v Speaker 3>a frustrated headspace, and now you want to come in

515
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<v Speaker 3>and offer them eighty to one hundred thousand less than

516
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<v Speaker 3>what they haven't listed for, especially if there's comparable sales

517
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<v Speaker 3>that have happened within the last ninety days that would

518
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<v Speaker 3>support their listing price and their value, then that's gonna

519
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<v Speaker 3>make them angry. Think of what how you would feel

520
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<v Speaker 3>if you were selling the house. It's interesting to me that, again,

521
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<v Speaker 3>when I help buyers, how little they can see the

522
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<v Speaker 3>other side. Everybody is so focused on just getting themselves,

523
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<v Speaker 3>and every once in a while you have people who

524
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<v Speaker 3>are like, even if they're getting a deal, I've been

525
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<v Speaker 3>fortunate enough. In the last month, I got one property

526
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<v Speaker 3>for a client in North Hollywood that it was seventy

527
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<v Speaker 3>five thousand dollars below market value, and it came in

528
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<v Speaker 3>sixty thousand dollars. The appraisal came back sixty thousand dollars

529
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<v Speaker 3>more than list and that usually means that that's how

530
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<v Speaker 3>good a deal that they got. And I'm like, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>a pretty good agent. I like to think I'm a

532
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<v Speaker 3>good one. I'm not saying that to brag. That doesn't

533
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<v Speaker 3>happen all the time. This is just a circumstance where

534
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<v Speaker 3>I had some listing agents that were using an old

535
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<v Speaker 3>model for pricing that just didn't work.

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<v Speaker 2>So Kathleen, I hope that answered your question.

537
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<v Speaker 3>If anybody else has a question, please use that talkback feature.

538
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<v Speaker 3>Also again, shoot me a message if you want. I

539
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<v Speaker 3>want to know if you know somebody who's leaving the

540
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<v Speaker 3>state of California. I want to know why hit me

541
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<v Speaker 3>up on that talkback and I didn't get to it.

542
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<v Speaker 3>So we're gonna We're gonna go back. We're gonna talk wholesalers,

543
00:24:10.319 --> 00:24:12.160
<v Speaker 3>these people that offer to pay cash for your house.

544
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<v Speaker 3>You could stay there as long as you want, You

545
00:24:13.440 --> 00:24:15.960
<v Speaker 3>could leave as much stuff versus using a realtor, which

546
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<v Speaker 3>one makes more sense.

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand.

548
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<v Speaker 3>Justin worshow me here with you talking Southern California real

549
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<v Speaker 3>estate got tons of people are hitting the talk back,

550
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<v Speaker 3>and as far as I could tell, not one of

551
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<v Speaker 3>them is my mother yet, So I'm really I'm gonna

552
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<v Speaker 3>take that as a win.

553
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<v Speaker 2>Richie. Just take note.

554
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<v Speaker 3>If any of them are named Cheryl, that's my mom

555
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<v Speaker 3>and we should definitely prove that first, because she's probably

556
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<v Speaker 3>just trying to make me look good. But I love you, Mom,

557
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<v Speaker 3>and thanks for definitely will thanks I appreciate. So I

558
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<v Speaker 3>didn't get to talk to this in the last segment.

559
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<v Speaker 3>But it's something that comes up a lot for sellers.

560
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<v Speaker 3>So you see probably you've srobably seen television ads, you've

561
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<v Speaker 3>heard them advertise here on KFI.

562
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<v Speaker 2>I call them wholesalers.

563
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<v Speaker 3>These are companies, people, well whatever you want to call them,

564
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<v Speaker 3>who are offering to pay cash for your house, non contingent.

565
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<v Speaker 3>What that means is they're saying, I will buy your house.

566
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<v Speaker 3>I don't need to get it inspected, I'm not worried

567
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<v Speaker 3>about it getting an appraised appraisal for the value of

568
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<v Speaker 3>the home, and I don't need to get a loan.

569
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<v Speaker 3>I'm just going to buy it. And what they also

570
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<v Speaker 3>do is they say, here's the thing. And traditionally in

571
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<v Speaker 3>this market, it's about a twenty one to thirty day

572
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<v Speaker 3>s grow on average. Some of them go a little

573
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<v Speaker 3>longer if a seller needs more time to be able

574
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<v Speaker 3>to find a new place. But they're saying, we could

575
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<v Speaker 3>wait three months, four months, you could pick the day

576
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<v Speaker 3>that you move out.

577
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<v Speaker 2>You can also leave all of your furniture or trash.

578
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<v Speaker 3>Whereas the standard purchase agreement in the state of California

579
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<v Speaker 3>requires that a home be at least broom swept, but

580
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<v Speaker 3>you could literally just pack up and leave in any

581
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<v Speaker 3>junk that isn't a keepsake or whatever. You could just

582
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<v Speaker 3>walk out and to me, in my opinion, there's only

583
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<v Speaker 3>really one downside to that, and it's that usually they

584
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<v Speaker 3>can't find a way to make it cost effective for you,

585
00:25:57.359 --> 00:25:59.640
<v Speaker 3>like they can't make you as much as a realtor can.

586
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<v Speaker 2>And I want to emphasize this.

587
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<v Speaker 3>I mean usually I have in at least three different instances,

588
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<v Speaker 3>I have had sellers come to me and say, so

589
00:26:10.880 --> 00:26:16.000
<v Speaker 3>and so is offering me this amount to sell my house. Right, So,

590
00:26:16.039 --> 00:26:18.559
<v Speaker 3>when I look at that amount, and when you account

591
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<v Speaker 3>for the commissions that they would have to pay, which

592
00:26:21.200 --> 00:26:24.480
<v Speaker 3>is in this market usually not hard fast. Again, there

593
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<v Speaker 3>is no way of setting commissions, no legal requirement for commissions.

594
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<v Speaker 3>They are all up for negotiations. But traditionally a seller

595
00:26:31.839 --> 00:26:34.240
<v Speaker 3>is still paying three to six percent or I'm sorry,

596
00:26:34.279 --> 00:26:37.200
<v Speaker 3>it's five to six percent in commission for a sales

597
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<v Speaker 3>price that I look at it and go, if it's

598
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<v Speaker 3>about a five percent difference in price, it doesn't make

599
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<v Speaker 3>sense for you to use a realtor. So, but there's

600
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<v Speaker 3>also data that shows before the realtor's light their pitchforks

601
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<v Speaker 3>and torches and descend upon Burbank to find me.

602
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<v Speaker 2>There's also research that says that if you use.

603
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<v Speaker 3>A realtor versus trying to sell your home by yourself,

604
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<v Speaker 3>so we call them fizzb as realtors for sale by owners,

605
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<v Speaker 3>and you usually get thirty percent more on the sales

606
00:27:06.200 --> 00:27:08.839
<v Speaker 3>price of your home than if you sell it yourself.

607
00:27:08.880 --> 00:27:11.519
<v Speaker 3>So a realtor will get you thirty percent more. So

608
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<v Speaker 3>they're making you more than what you're paying them in

609
00:27:14.559 --> 00:27:15.200
<v Speaker 3>the commission.

610
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<v Speaker 2>So what do you do? How do you know what

611
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<v Speaker 2>the right thing to do?

612
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<v Speaker 3>Is? The right thing to do is to talk to

613
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<v Speaker 3>these companies. I would recommend you do it in this order,

614
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<v Speaker 3>because if you talk to a realtor and then they

615
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<v Speaker 3>start to list your house and you put it on

616
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<v Speaker 3>the market, in most cases, at least as far as

617
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<v Speaker 3>I know, those companies kind of go away. They're not

618
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<v Speaker 3>interested in doing that. They're interested in just making you

619
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<v Speaker 3>one offer and saying this is what we'd like to

620
00:27:37.440 --> 00:27:38.920
<v Speaker 3>give you for your house, Take it or leave it.

621
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<v Speaker 3>So I would start with those companies. I would find

622
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<v Speaker 3>those places that you're seeing advertise on the television. I

623
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<v Speaker 3>would make note when you see them. I would google them.

624
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<v Speaker 3>I would listen to the companies that advertise here on

625
00:27:50.400 --> 00:27:53.559
<v Speaker 3>KFI and get their number and call them and just

626
00:27:53.599 --> 00:27:56.960
<v Speaker 3>see what's your offer there. Then I would recommend that

627
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<v Speaker 3>you talk to at least three other realtors. And you're

628
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<v Speaker 3>going to have to use your gut on this. Because

629
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<v Speaker 3>I had a listing appointment in Tuluca Lake recently, which

630
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<v Speaker 3>is up in the San Fernando Valley, and it was

631
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<v Speaker 3>a woman whose father had passed away, had a house

632
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<v Speaker 3>that just as it was right there, was probably worth

633
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<v Speaker 3>about one point two million dollars. And the son was

634
00:28:18.799 --> 00:28:21.279
<v Speaker 3>very excited. So this would be the grandson of a

635
00:28:21.359 --> 00:28:24.480
<v Speaker 3>technically the owner right he was inheriting the house. He

636
00:28:24.559 --> 00:28:27.160
<v Speaker 3>was excited because he had heard from a few realtors

637
00:28:27.240 --> 00:28:29.599
<v Speaker 3>that he could rent this house this house out for

638
00:28:29.720 --> 00:28:33.079
<v Speaker 3>ten thousand dollars a month if he updated it. Now,

639
00:28:33.319 --> 00:28:37.079
<v Speaker 3>when you look at the data, it had been done.

640
00:28:37.759 --> 00:28:39.200
<v Speaker 3>But when I got in there, and this is how

641
00:28:39.200 --> 00:28:41.119
<v Speaker 3>I lose a lot of my listing appointments is to

642
00:28:41.160 --> 00:28:43.640
<v Speaker 3>be honest, I'm too honest. I'm just like, this doesn't

643
00:28:43.680 --> 00:28:48.160
<v Speaker 3>make any sense. I said, well, who is going to

644
00:28:48.200 --> 00:28:52.160
<v Speaker 3>be able to afford ten thousand dollars a month, like, yes,

645
00:28:52.200 --> 00:28:54.920
<v Speaker 3>it's happened, but their anomalies. Also, those houses sit on

646
00:28:54.920 --> 00:28:56.960
<v Speaker 3>the market for at least three or four months because

647
00:28:57.319 --> 00:28:59.720
<v Speaker 3>the market share of person who's looking for that house

648
00:28:59.799 --> 00:29:03.079
<v Speaker 3>is so small. It's not a large group of people

649
00:29:03.079 --> 00:29:04.359
<v Speaker 3>that are like, you know, what I need is a

650
00:29:04.359 --> 00:29:07.240
<v Speaker 3>ten thousand dollars a month rental, because technically what we

651
00:29:07.279 --> 00:29:10.119
<v Speaker 3>look for is realtors, and what we recommend, the industry recommends,

652
00:29:10.160 --> 00:29:12.440
<v Speaker 3>is that you make at least three times anywhere from

653
00:29:12.440 --> 00:29:15.799
<v Speaker 3>two and a half to three times whatever your rent is, right,

654
00:29:16.079 --> 00:29:18.920
<v Speaker 3>they want that in monthly income. So you're looking for

655
00:29:18.960 --> 00:29:21.920
<v Speaker 3>somebody who makes thirty thousand dollars a month to rent

656
00:29:21.960 --> 00:29:25.160
<v Speaker 3>your ten thousand dollars a month home. People who make

657
00:29:25.240 --> 00:29:27.720
<v Speaker 3>thirty thousand dollars a month and are not looking to

658
00:29:27.759 --> 00:29:30.000
<v Speaker 3>buy a home are not planning to stay here for

659
00:29:30.119 --> 00:29:32.880
<v Speaker 3>very long. So now you're kind of running what I

660
00:29:32.920 --> 00:29:36.279
<v Speaker 3>would say is a glorified airbnb, which is not an investment.

661
00:29:36.359 --> 00:29:39.160
<v Speaker 3>Airbnbs are not an investment. That is a business. You're

662
00:29:39.200 --> 00:29:42.359
<v Speaker 3>starting a business because you've opened your house up.

663
00:29:42.519 --> 00:29:44.559
<v Speaker 2>You're the house you own, and you're making it into

664
00:29:44.559 --> 00:29:45.119
<v Speaker 2>a hotel.

665
00:29:45.480 --> 00:29:47.279
<v Speaker 3>There's maintenance costs, you have to have it clean, you

666
00:29:47.279 --> 00:29:49.400
<v Speaker 3>have to get furniture, like all of those things are

667
00:29:49.440 --> 00:29:50.880
<v Speaker 3>what you would find in a hotel.

668
00:29:51.279 --> 00:29:52.440
<v Speaker 2>And that's not an investment.

669
00:29:52.519 --> 00:29:54.720
<v Speaker 3>Having a vacant property that you then rent out for

670
00:29:54.799 --> 00:29:57.240
<v Speaker 3>years at a time, I would argue that's an investment

671
00:29:57.759 --> 00:30:00.599
<v Speaker 3>because it could sit there passively. I have an property

672
00:30:00.599 --> 00:30:03.319
<v Speaker 3>in Apex, North Carolina, because I wanted to see what

673
00:30:03.359 --> 00:30:06.119
<v Speaker 3>it was like to invest out of state. This sounds

674
00:30:06.119 --> 00:30:08.319
<v Speaker 3>like I'm bragging nowt I swear this is I'm just

675
00:30:08.359 --> 00:30:10.720
<v Speaker 3>talking off the cuff like I would at any open house,

676
00:30:11.079 --> 00:30:12.839
<v Speaker 3>But I just I wanted to see how is it

677
00:30:12.920 --> 00:30:15.480
<v Speaker 3>better to invest in real estate outside of California. And

678
00:30:15.559 --> 00:30:17.519
<v Speaker 3>so far, my experience has been great. I've never even

679
00:30:17.519 --> 00:30:19.599
<v Speaker 3>stepped foot in this house. I treat it like you

680
00:30:19.599 --> 00:30:22.359
<v Speaker 3>would a stock. It's no different than buying Tesla or whatever.

681
00:30:22.359 --> 00:30:24.960
<v Speaker 3>Procter and Gamble in my opinion, I'm just I put

682
00:30:25.000 --> 00:30:26.519
<v Speaker 3>money in there and then I make a little bit

683
00:30:26.559 --> 00:30:29.319
<v Speaker 3>back off of it each time. So going back to this,

684
00:30:29.400 --> 00:30:31.000
<v Speaker 3>you want to talk to realtors and go with your

685
00:30:31.000 --> 00:30:33.119
<v Speaker 3>gut to see like something in your gut is going

686
00:30:33.200 --> 00:30:35.640
<v Speaker 3>to tell you, especially if everybody is saying the same thing,

687
00:30:35.920 --> 00:30:38.160
<v Speaker 3>you're going to know if you're being sold. There's lots

688
00:30:38.200 --> 00:30:40.319
<v Speaker 3>of different types of realtors. I don't like that we

689
00:30:40.440 --> 00:30:43.559
<v Speaker 3>get hit with this like stereotype that we're all just

690
00:30:43.759 --> 00:30:47.279
<v Speaker 3>basically use car salesman who sell houses. Don't get me wrong,

691
00:30:47.440 --> 00:30:49.680
<v Speaker 3>I've come across them. They exist out there. I have

692
00:30:49.720 --> 00:30:51.640
<v Speaker 3>one who's a dear friend of man. Shout out to Brian.

693
00:30:52.559 --> 00:30:54.599
<v Speaker 3>He looks like a used car salesman. And I love

694
00:30:54.640 --> 00:30:56.119
<v Speaker 3>this guy dearly, and I hope he doesn't hear me

695
00:30:56.160 --> 00:30:58.680
<v Speaker 3>say this. He looks like a used car salesman. He

696
00:30:58.720 --> 00:31:01.319
<v Speaker 3>talks like a used car salesman, but he's a great realtor.

697
00:31:01.440 --> 00:31:04.000
<v Speaker 3>He cares about his clients, but he's not a used

698
00:31:04.000 --> 00:31:06.519
<v Speaker 3>car salesman. So you want to make sure that somebody's

699
00:31:06.599 --> 00:31:09.119
<v Speaker 3>looking out for your best interests and not their own.

700
00:31:09.440 --> 00:31:11.400
<v Speaker 3>And I think, I really, I have faith in you.

701
00:31:11.839 --> 00:31:13.599
<v Speaker 3>I think you could figure that out. You could suss

702
00:31:13.599 --> 00:31:15.960
<v Speaker 3>that out, and then you look at all the data. Traditionally,

703
00:31:16.000 --> 00:31:17.960
<v Speaker 3>most people when they're looking for a realtor, they take

704
00:31:18.000 --> 00:31:21.240
<v Speaker 3>the first person they were recommended. And don't get me wrong,

705
00:31:21.279 --> 00:31:23.640
<v Speaker 3>when that comes my way, I'm very happy about it.

706
00:31:23.680 --> 00:31:24.200
<v Speaker 2>I love it.

707
00:31:24.519 --> 00:31:27.119
<v Speaker 3>But I also feel very confident that those people I

708
00:31:27.200 --> 00:31:28.559
<v Speaker 3>know I'm going to take care of it. I know

709
00:31:28.640 --> 00:31:30.599
<v Speaker 3>how I operate, I know that I'm looking out for

710
00:31:30.680 --> 00:31:34.079
<v Speaker 3>other people. But I've had I've had flat out conversations

711
00:31:34.079 --> 00:31:36.240
<v Speaker 3>with other agents that you could just tell that they

712
00:31:36.240 --> 00:31:38.880
<v Speaker 3>don't really care about the people they're helping. It's just

713
00:31:38.920 --> 00:31:41.480
<v Speaker 3>about the commission bottom line. And that also, I don't

714
00:31:41.519 --> 00:31:44.559
<v Speaker 3>think makes them horrible people. I know it's scary and

715
00:31:44.599 --> 00:31:47.039
<v Speaker 3>I know it's unnerving to buy a house, but I

716
00:31:47.440 --> 00:31:49.640
<v Speaker 3>really feel like the same thing can happen with a car.

717
00:31:49.799 --> 00:31:51.680
<v Speaker 3>You go in and you have all of the best

718
00:31:51.680 --> 00:31:54.599
<v Speaker 3>intentions of buying a car and somebody sold you something

719
00:31:54.599 --> 00:31:57.440
<v Speaker 3>that later on you found out isn't good. But statistically,

720
00:31:57.480 --> 00:31:59.720
<v Speaker 3>more often than not, people buy cars that they enjoy

721
00:31:59.759 --> 00:32:02.039
<v Speaker 3>for a very long time. I feel like it happens

722
00:32:02.039 --> 00:32:03.599
<v Speaker 3>a lot more that way than it does that they

723
00:32:03.640 --> 00:32:06.200
<v Speaker 3>get hosed, And so far, in my experience, the same

724
00:32:06.240 --> 00:32:08.680
<v Speaker 3>thing goes with shopping for a house and looking for

725
00:32:08.920 --> 00:32:13.079
<v Speaker 3>looking that kind of stuff. Oh man, this isn't so bad.

726
00:32:13.160 --> 00:32:15.119
<v Speaker 3>I think I'm doing good. I feel I feel pretty

727
00:32:15.119 --> 00:32:17.079
<v Speaker 3>good about it. Thanks Robin, appreciate the thumbs up.

728
00:32:17.119 --> 00:32:18.599
<v Speaker 2>I haven't. This is We're gonna.

729
00:32:18.359 --> 00:32:21.000
<v Speaker 3>Try this for two weeks and either either you could

730
00:32:21.039 --> 00:32:22.839
<v Speaker 3>tune in and you could hear the train wreck and

731
00:32:22.880 --> 00:32:26.559
<v Speaker 3>maybe that's exciting, or I do okay, or maybe it's

732
00:32:26.559 --> 00:32:28.640
<v Speaker 3>how it's it feels like it's going right now. It's

733
00:32:28.680 --> 00:32:31.559
<v Speaker 3>fair to Midland, and hopefully that's not boring enough. Most

734
00:32:31.599 --> 00:32:33.799
<v Speaker 3>people love a good train wreck, I must say. I know,

735
00:32:33.960 --> 00:32:36.000
<v Speaker 3>that's all I'm kind of waiting. What's really gonna go

736
00:32:36.079 --> 00:32:38.559
<v Speaker 3>wrong is if something really bad happens in the world.

737
00:32:38.640 --> 00:32:40.240
<v Speaker 3>I don't want that to happen, just because I don't

738
00:32:40.279 --> 00:32:42.799
<v Speaker 3>want anything bad happen in general. But that's where we're

739
00:32:42.799 --> 00:32:45.000
<v Speaker 3>gonna see me flummox. I could talk real estate like

740
00:32:45.039 --> 00:32:47.039
<v Speaker 3>I was at an open house before this, just talking

741
00:32:47.079 --> 00:32:49.400
<v Speaker 3>for hours talking to people about the show. It's hard

742
00:32:49.440 --> 00:32:51.079
<v Speaker 3>to get me to shut up at an open house.

743
00:32:51.119 --> 00:32:53.200
<v Speaker 3>I love talking. I geek out about numbers, and I

744
00:32:53.240 --> 00:32:55.839
<v Speaker 3>love this job so much. But let's see we got

745
00:32:55.839 --> 00:32:58.319
<v Speaker 3>We're still no. We're gonna pivot because I've been asking

746
00:32:58.359 --> 00:33:00.000
<v Speaker 3>you about what you're gonna do people who are lead

747
00:33:00.119 --> 00:33:03.359
<v Speaker 3>in California now going into or two of our fantastic

748
00:33:03.400 --> 00:33:05.880
<v Speaker 3>show here, I want to hear some real estate horror stories.

749
00:33:05.920 --> 00:33:07.799
<v Speaker 2>People love to share some horror stories.

750
00:33:07.839 --> 00:33:09.880
<v Speaker 3>I got a couple if you don't have any, that

751
00:33:09.920 --> 00:33:11.880
<v Speaker 3>I will share at the very end of the show,

752
00:33:12.160 --> 00:33:14.200
<v Speaker 3>which is going to come up right before four o'clock.

753
00:33:14.640 --> 00:33:16.640
<v Speaker 3>But now when we come back, we're going to talk

754
00:33:16.640 --> 00:33:19.799
<v Speaker 3>about why are people leaving the state of California and

755
00:33:19.960 --> 00:33:21.480
<v Speaker 3>is it enough to affect prices.

756
00:33:21.559 --> 00:33:22.319
<v Speaker 2>We'll talk about that

757
00:33:22.519 --> 00:33:25.880
<v Speaker 1>Later on KFI AM six forty on demand
