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<v Speaker 1>This episode ma contain content of a graphic nature, including

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<v Speaker 1>descriptions of physical and sexual violence against adults, children, and animals.

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<v Speaker 1>Listener discretion is advised. Hi, this is Tanya. Hi, this

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<v Speaker 1>is Shannon, and we are Crimes and Consequences, a hardcore

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<v Speaker 1>true crime podcast. Hey Shannon, Hey Tanya. How are you?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing pretty good? How are you?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm doing freaking fabulous Liday, Thursday, Today, Thursday.

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<v Speaker 1>I have an announcement you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I may or may not continue with the podcast

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<v Speaker 2>on if I'm going with the route that this is

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<v Speaker 2>looking to be. I was playing the lotto online meat

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<v Speaker 2>and I woke up to be Winter Winter Chicken dinner dollars.

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<v Speaker 3>I hit right, the power ball was a five.

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<v Speaker 2>Nice, that's what I So it looks like the path

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<v Speaker 2>is opening now, yes, right, So but I will lottery wins. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what, you know what I do with the lottery.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to get a van and then we'll just travel, Tanya.

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<v Speaker 2>We then we'll parlay into a travel podcast that we

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<v Speaker 2>just visit different crime.

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<v Speaker 1>That would be fabulous. I am there with you, girl.

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<v Speaker 1>That is so fun. My husband and child won't mind

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<v Speaker 1>if I just go on the road with you like

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<v Speaker 1>U for my product. We got to give what the

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<v Speaker 1>people want. So here we are. We're here to please.

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<v Speaker 2>What about you, girl, how are you anything on the

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<v Speaker 2>horizon for you?

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<v Speaker 1>No? No, just you know, it's been to work week.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't wait till the weekend. He has every other

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<v Speaker 1>work and stuff in this world. Yeah, just same old shit.

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<v Speaker 1>So that is so funny.

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<v Speaker 2>That is so reminiscent of our bingo days in Canada.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh so you know, we live in the Detroit metro

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<v Speaker 2>area and before nine eleven we would go to Canada

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<v Speaker 2>to play bingo.

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<v Speaker 1>All was humongous.

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<v Speaker 2>I was a heavy smoker at the time, and wow,

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<v Speaker 2>what a bonanza. You could smoke right at the tables

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<v Speaker 2>around with hot drinks, you could get daubers. It was

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<v Speaker 2>an event. I had taken Tanya, and I'm used to winning.

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<v Speaker 2>I go there, I expect when even like a small round,

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<v Speaker 2>it's just I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>And Tanya is sitting next to me and she's all

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<v Speaker 1>like nah.

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<v Speaker 2>Every time, like someone would call bingo and we'd move

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<v Speaker 2>on to the next round, and she's like, oh god,

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<v Speaker 2>I never went and I had to just my dabber

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<v Speaker 2>down and I looked her square in the face, and

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<v Speaker 2>I said, I need you to stop with this negativity.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I can't draw. I'm a winner.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna win and I can't if you're always saying

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<v Speaker 2>that you're gonna lose, you're too close to me.

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<v Speaker 1>You're giving me bad ju juw. I love it. It did.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure it was something. Oh we won a few times.

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<v Speaker 1>It was so great. Do you remember I do? I

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<v Speaker 1>do remember when you told me that. I was like, oh, okay, sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>I need.

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<v Speaker 2>You to amp up the positivity. We're in a win

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<v Speaker 2>the manifestation energy.

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<v Speaker 1>So I remember. It was a lot of fun. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's when I got introduced to gravy fries.

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<v Speaker 3>So they're the best gravy fries.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah. But anyway, anyway, must move on to business.

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<v Speaker 1>And what story do you have for I have a

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<v Speaker 1>horrific story. Of course, they're all terrible. And before I

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<v Speaker 1>get started, I just like to remind everyone to hit

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<v Speaker 1>the subscriber follow button on whatever app you're listening to,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm going to tell you about the murder of

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<v Speaker 1>Shannon Graves. So Shannon Graves, she came into this world

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<v Speaker 1>on November fourth, nineteen eighty eight. So that made for Corbiel.

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<v Speaker 1>The dark haired, brown eyed beauty was born in historic Youngstown,

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<v Speaker 1>Ohio two Christine Graves and Ronnie de Paul. When she

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<v Speaker 1>was about six, Shannon learned that she had a half sister,

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<v Speaker 1>Nick Debbie, and Debbie and Shannon shared a father. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so the sisters were shocked but excited to learn about

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<v Speaker 1>one another, and Shannon also had a little brother, aj

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<v Speaker 1>who joined the family. Shannon was immediately smitten with her

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<v Speaker 1>little brother, and the sister brother duo shared a very

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<v Speaker 1>strong bond for the rest of Shannon's life. Family meant

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<v Speaker 1>everything to Shannon. Debbie, her half sister, says that everyone

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<v Speaker 1>would gather often for celebration such as birthdays and holidays,

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<v Speaker 1>and they even often had Sunday dinner. She remembers the

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<v Speaker 1>first time she met Shannon, which was on Christmas Eve

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<v Speaker 1>at the home of Debbie's aunt Joanne. Debbie, who previously

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<v Speaker 1>had believed she was an only child, knocked on the

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<v Speaker 1>door and a woman answered, yelling, Shannon, your sister's here.

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<v Speaker 1>Shannon ran into Debbie's arms and hugged her tight, and

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<v Speaker 1>Debbie remembers thinking that Shannon was full of spunk, calling

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<v Speaker 1>her a pitbull. In a chihuahua's body. There was no

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<v Speaker 1>half in these relationships. Debbie and aj were simply Shannon's

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<v Speaker 1>sister and brother, and she had a strong bond with both,

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<v Speaker 1>especially AJ two. So Northwest Ohio was always home to Shannon,

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<v Speaker 1>who lived in either Youngstown, which was a city halfway

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<v Speaker 1>between Cleveland and Pittsburgh, or in small towns nearby. Shannon

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<v Speaker 1>was described by many of her large group of friends

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<v Speaker 1>as a light, always kind and wanting to help others.

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<v Speaker 1>She was even known as Star to her friends because

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<v Speaker 1>of the brightness that she exuded. Shannon was just as

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<v Speaker 1>likely to london ear or hand to a stranger down

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<v Speaker 1>on their luck as she was to help a good friend.

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<v Speaker 1>But behind that shine was pain. Shannon had a rough

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<v Speaker 1>time growing up and sometimes hung around with a rough crowd.

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<v Speaker 1>She lost her mother and all four of her grandparents,

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<v Speaker 1>and those passings hit her really hard. Early life events

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<v Speaker 1>left her feeling ungrounded at times, and her bold personality

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<v Speaker 1>mixed with emotional upheaval, built a hardened exterior around her

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<v Speaker 1>sensitive and beautiful heart. She liked to have a good

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<v Speaker 1>time like most young people, but she gravitated toward people

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<v Speaker 1>who could be a bit dangerous. And sometimes your friend's

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<v Speaker 1>bad habits run off on you. So it should be

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<v Speaker 1>noted that young'stown had a reputation as a hotbed for crime.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, in the nineteen sixties it was known as Murdertown, USA,

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<v Speaker 1>and Youngstown's murder rate was double what the rate was

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<v Speaker 1>for the whole state of Ohio. Organized crime was involved

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<v Speaker 1>in many and afarious activities around the area. So just

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<v Speaker 1>let you know this is the environment that Shannon grew

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<v Speaker 1>up in. Shannon was arrested in May two thousand and

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<v Speaker 1>nine and charged with two felony drug crimes. Eventually, one

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<v Speaker 1>of those charges was dismissed and the other was reduced

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<v Speaker 1>to a misdemeanor drug charge. Shannon pled guilty on July thirtieth,

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and nine, and was sentenced to a six

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<v Speaker 1>month suspended sentence plus a fine of one hundred dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>The next year, on August eighteenth, twenty ten, Shannon was

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<v Speaker 1>arrested again, this time for felony theft. In that case,

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<v Speaker 1>she also had a felony reduced to unauthorized use of property,

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<v Speaker 1>which was a misdemeanor, and she was sentenced to thirty

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<v Speaker 1>days suspended and a two hundred and fifty dollars fine.

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<v Speaker 1>Interestingly enough, that wasn't the end of her legal issues.

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<v Speaker 1>She maintained that in both arrests, a deputy clerk signed

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<v Speaker 1>and issued her arrest warrants without establishing probable cause, which

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<v Speaker 1>is a huge problem wow. She and eight other women

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<v Speaker 1>filed a suit against Mahoning County, Ohio, where all of

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<v Speaker 1>their arrests were made, with the claims that their sentences

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<v Speaker 1>were avoid because of the lack of establishment of probable cause.

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<v Speaker 1>This suit focused on their belief that their arrests violated

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<v Speaker 1>the Fourth Amendment, which protects against unreasonable search and seizure.

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<v Speaker 1>Their suit was initially dismissed, then appealed, and there was

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of legal back and forth with the appeals

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<v Speaker 1>court reversing the case, dismissal, and pushing the case back

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<v Speaker 1>for resentencing. But ultimately Shannon and one other woman, who

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<v Speaker 1>had pleaded guilty already to at least one charge, had

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<v Speaker 1>no change to their outcome because they didn't claim the

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<v Speaker 1>lack of probable cause until after they had been convicted.

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<v Speaker 1>So her half sister, Debbie, was like a surrogate mom

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<v Speaker 1>to her during this tough time, listening when she needed

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<v Speaker 1>to talk through problems and giving her advice on how

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<v Speaker 1>to get out of a jam and keep her life

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<v Speaker 1>on track. As you might expect, Shannon didn't want to

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<v Speaker 1>see the inside of a jail again. She always had

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<v Speaker 1>a talent for hair and makeup, so she decided to

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<v Speaker 1>go to cosmetology school. Shannon buckled down and earned her

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<v Speaker 1>cosmetology certification in twenty sixteen through Raphael's School of Beauty

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<v Speaker 1>in Boardman, Ohio. She was proud of her accomplishment and

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<v Speaker 1>she was excited to start her new career. She had

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<v Speaker 1>no idea that it would be a short one. However,

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<v Speaker 1>her sometimes dubious associations extended to her romantic relationships. Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 1>Shannon's attraction to one of the bad boys you know

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<v Speaker 1>she liked those that her friend had mentioned, ended up

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<v Speaker 1>being her undoing. In early twenty sixteen, Shannon met Arturo Novoa,

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<v Speaker 1>a known drug dealer with a bad temper. By September

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<v Speaker 1>of that year, Navoa had already moved into Shannon's place.

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<v Speaker 1>From the very beginning, their relationship was volatile. Shannon was

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<v Speaker 1>small but mighty, standing less than five feet tall and

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<v Speaker 1>around one hundred pounds. However, even she didn't fully understand

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<v Speaker 1>the depths of Novoa's anger and depravity. Turmoil was a

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<v Speaker 1>constant in their relationship, and by December twenty sixteen, Shannon

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<v Speaker 1>was done. She kicked Novoa out and he moved in

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<v Speaker 1>with a woman named Katrina Layton, in a move typical

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<v Speaker 1>of Shannon and Novoa's romance. He made it just a

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<v Speaker 1>week without Shannon before he was moving right back into

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<v Speaker 1>her place on Mahoeing Avenue. Katrina Layton was completely obsessed

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<v Speaker 1>with Novoa and she was beyond angry that he had

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<v Speaker 1>left her to go back to Shannon. She wanted him

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<v Speaker 1>back badly. Shannon and Novoa continued to have the same

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<v Speaker 1>problems they had had before she kicked him out. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>the turbulence seemed to increase. On the flip side, Shannon

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<v Speaker 1>was enjoying her job and still spending time with her family.

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<v Speaker 1>She celebrated Christmas with her family and that was the

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<v Speaker 1>last one that they would all have together. Katrina just

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't get over Novoa. He continued his criminal ways, selling

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<v Speaker 1>drugs and participating and other illegal activities, but she didn't care.

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<v Speaker 1>Her obsession with him and jealousy towards Shannon grew stronger

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<v Speaker 1>every day. It isn't clear if he was seeing both

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<v Speaker 1>of them at the same time, but he was calling

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<v Speaker 1>Shannon his ax as he went back and forth. It

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<v Speaker 1>became a lethal balance of the continued problems with Shannon

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<v Speaker 1>and Katrina's constant push for him to stay with her

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<v Speaker 1>that set a plan in motion. Finally, Novoa exploded on

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<v Speaker 1>February twenty fourth, twenty seventeen. Katrina later said that she

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<v Speaker 1>was at the home Novoa and Shannon shared when novoah

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<v Speaker 1>completely lost control, beating Shannon to death in the bathroom

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<v Speaker 1>with a hammer. Of course, that sudden decision left the

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<v Speaker 1>remaining pair, Katrina and Novoa with a big dilemma. What

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<v Speaker 1>were they going to do with Shannon's body? For some reason,

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<v Speaker 1>Navoa shaved Shannon's hair off and sent Katrina shop for

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<v Speaker 1>big fifty five gallon bins that they planned to use

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<v Speaker 1>to store Shannon's body while they came up with some

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<v Speaker 1>sort of plan. Navoa and Katrina tried a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>things to hide the gruesome deed. First, they wrapped Shannon

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<v Speaker 1>in garbage bags and then stuck her in the trunk

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<v Speaker 1>of her own car. They brought her to Katrina's home,

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<v Speaker 1>and Navoa reached out to a man named Andrew Herman.

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<v Speaker 1>Herman and his wife, Michelle Iholmfeld, help Navoa dismember Shannon's body.

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<v Speaker 1>They put her arms and legs in one of the

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<v Speaker 1>bins Katrina had purchased, and used another of the bins

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<v Speaker 1>to store Shannon's torso and head. Sometime around the first

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<v Speaker 1>week of March twenty seventeen, those bins were taken back

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<v Speaker 1>to Shannon's home on Mahoeing Avenue. By then, Katrina had

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<v Speaker 1>moved herself in to that home along with her thirteen

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<v Speaker 1>Navoa didn't want to dump her in the nearby river

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<v Speaker 1>because bodies put their tended to float up. Eventually, Navoa

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<v Speaker 1>gonna notice that she's missing. They were apparently fans of

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<v Speaker 1>So Katrina jumped online and, using the screen name Chickenman,

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<v Speaker 1>to the house that Novoa and Shannon had once shared. However,

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<v Speaker 1>put their thinking caps on Shannon's family, So you're probably wondering, like,

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<v Speaker 1>Novoa where she was, and he kept telling them that

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<v Speaker 1>Shannon had taken off with another man and gone to Columbus, Ohio.

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<v Speaker 1>Then he changed his story and said that when Shannon

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<v Speaker 1>up with yet another man. But that didn't sound like Shannon.

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<v Speaker 1>Her family's feet. Debbie, Shannon's sister, was getting suspicious. It

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't unusual for Shannon to take off for a while

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<v Speaker 1>without telling her family or friends, but she never missed

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<v Speaker 1>Debbie's March birthday or the family's Easter celebration. Debbie sent

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<v Speaker 1>Shannon a text about brother AJ and the reply her

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<v Speaker 1>text made her blood run cold. It said, quote, I

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<v Speaker 1>Remember I told you? Yeah? Yeah. So Debbie knew Shannon's car,

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<v Speaker 1>dog and cell phone were still at her home, but

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<v Speaker 1>Shannon wasn't. She would have never left Molly behind her dog,

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<v Speaker 1>and that text about not having a brother just sealed

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<v Speaker 1>the deal for her, and Debbie reported Shannon missing on

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<v Speaker 1>June twenty second, twenty seventeen. Police wanted to know about

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<v Speaker 1>the people in Shannon's life, and Debbie said that one

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<v Speaker 1>of her exes, a man named John, would know Shannon

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<v Speaker 1>better than anyone. He said he and Shannon had been

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<v Speaker 1>in John's roofing business until he was busted on drug

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<v Speaker 1>charges and to prison. John really wanted to start right

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<v Speaker 1>back up with Shannon once he was out, but he

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<v Speaker 1>found out that she had started dating Novoa. He said

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<v Speaker 1>he last saw her on Valentine's Day twenty seventeen. He

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<v Speaker 1>was upset that she was with someone else, but still

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<v Speaker 1>to let you know, this was about four months after

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<v Speaker 1>he was killed that her sister reported her missing. Okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So back to John. He said he last saw her

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<v Speaker 1>on Valentine's Day twenty seventeen, and that was about ten

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<v Speaker 1>days before she was killed. He was upset that she

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<v Speaker 1>was with someone else, but still held out hope that

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<v Speaker 1>they would find each other again. Police dug deeper into

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<v Speaker 1>John's whereabouts at the time of Shannon's disappearance, and they

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<v Speaker 1>determined that he had nothing to do with it at all.

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<v Speaker 1>For Novoa and Katrina Leyton, the pressure was on. Navoa

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<v Speaker 1>had a friend who lived on Sherwood Avenue in Youngstown

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<v Speaker 1>and often had bonfires in his yard. He contacted the

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<v Speaker 1>friend and said he had some trash he wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>get rid of and asked if he could have another bonfire.

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<v Speaker 1>Novoa and another friend spent the evening tossing clothes and

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<v Speaker 1>other items such as papers and even Shannon's hair, into

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<v Speaker 1>the fire. Another item thrown into the flames was a

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<v Speaker 1>bracelet with the name Shannon and bossed on it. The

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<v Speaker 1>fire was huge, so huge, in fact, the fire department

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<v Speaker 1>came to investigate and make sure that it wasn't getting

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<v Speaker 1>out of hand. Navoa's friend, who had allowed the bonfire,

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<v Speaker 1>was curious as to what Novoa and Katrina had been

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<v Speaker 1>pitching into the pit for hours, especially because they both

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<v Speaker 1>just kept taking things out of baskets and bins and

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<v Speaker 1>burning them all like it was like endless, Oh my gosh.

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<v Speaker 1>So the next day the friend went digging in the

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<v Speaker 1>ashes to see what he could find. He found the bracelet,

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<v Speaker 1>and he put all the ashes from the fire into

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<v Speaker 1>a laundry basket, including the piece of jewelry. The police

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<v Speaker 1>eventually recovered the ashes and bracelet later in the investigation.

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<v Speaker 1>Katrina had rented a bottom floor apartment and used Shannon's

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<v Speaker 1>credit hard to buy a freezer and they moved the

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<v Speaker 1>body into that. The landlord was getting suspicious because the

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<v Speaker 1>lice was signed, but no one seemed to be moving

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<v Speaker 1>in like the only thing in this apartment was the freezer.

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<v Speaker 1>He told the police that he thought something odd was

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<v Speaker 1>going on there, and the police got a search warrant.

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<v Speaker 1>In a panic, novoa In Katrina knew they had to

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<v Speaker 1>move Shannon's body out of the apartment. He called a

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<v Speaker 1>friend named Kenny Eschenbah and asked if he could store

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<v Speaker 1>a freezer in his basement for a while. He told

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<v Speaker 1>Eschenbah that his electricity had been cut and the freezer

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<v Speaker 1>was full of meat that he didn't want to spoil.

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<v Speaker 1>Eschanbah agreed, and novoa In a friend brought the freezer

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<v Speaker 1>over at night and brought it through the back door

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<v Speaker 1>and into the basement. The freezer was at the house

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<v Speaker 1>in Campbell, Ohio for a couple of weeks. When Eschenbah's

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<v Speaker 1>wife was preparing dinner one evening, she planned to make

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<v Speaker 1>spaghetti but didn't have any ground beef. Not wanting to

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<v Speaker 1>go to the store, she thought that maybe some of

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<v Speaker 1>the quote unquote meat that no Voa had said was

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<v Speaker 1>in the freezer in her basement was ground b for

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<v Speaker 1>something that she could use to complete the meal. It

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<v Speaker 1>lock on it. She obviously didn't have the key, but

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<v Speaker 1>my girl pried it open. She wasn't when going to

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<v Speaker 1>the Kroger. No, she was like, I'm not making a

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<v Speaker 1>trip if I don't have to. That's right. Plus, Shannon,

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<v Speaker 1>if you bring freezer over and there's a lock on it, girl.

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<v Speaker 3>Get it out of my house, I know, get it out.

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<v Speaker 1>So she prized it open. She lifted the lid, and

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<v Speaker 1>she starts moving things around. When she pulled part of

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<v Speaker 1>a bag out of the way, she saw what looked

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<v Speaker 1>like a human foot, and the foot bore a scorpion tattoo,

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<v Speaker 1>one that looked very similar to the one Shannon had

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<v Speaker 1>gotten in honor of her astrological sign. Horrified, the Eschenbos

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<v Speaker 1>called nine one one at three forty one pm on

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<v Speaker 1>July thirtieth, twenty seventeen, so ken Eschabab told the authorities

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<v Speaker 1>that the freezer wasn't they, and that a friend named

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<v Speaker 1>Anthony Gonzalez had asked to keep it there because his

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<v Speaker 1>electricity was off. So please soon discover that Anthony Gonzalez

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<v Speaker 1>was really Arturo Novoa. Liice had already talked with Novoa

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<v Speaker 1>previously when Shannon was reported missing, and they went back

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<v Speaker 1>again to talk to him. He denied that the freezer

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<v Speaker 1>was his, but police found the exact key that fit

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<v Speaker 1>the freezer's padlock in Novoa's pocket.

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<v Speaker 3>Dumb ass, there you go.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Authorities had done a deep dive into Novoa's pass

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<v Speaker 1>and learned that he had been living with Katrina since

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<v Speaker 1>about two weeks before Shannon's disappearance. They got a search

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<v Speaker 1>warrant for Shannon's former home and found a big meat

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<v Speaker 1>leaver stuck in a doorframe. Also found was the owner's

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<v Speaker 1>manual for that very same freezer that held the body

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<v Speaker 1>in the Ueshanba's basement, and a body search revealed, like

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<v Speaker 1>I told you, the freezer's key in Novoa's pocket. The

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<v Speaker 1>esshanboss said that Katrina had been in their home before

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<v Speaker 1>with Gonzalez I E. Novoa, and they had heard her

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<v Speaker 1>threaten to kill Shannon. It was determined that the Eshen

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<v Speaker 1>boss had no idea that they were storing a dismembered body,

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<v Speaker 1>and they were not charged, so shannonsas John popped it

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<v Speaker 1>back up again. He had been asking questions of her

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<v Speaker 1>friends and that caught the attention of police. John was

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<v Speaker 1>friends with a man named Steve Baringer, the man who

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<v Speaker 1>had the huge bonfire. Baringer was brought in and said

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<v Speaker 1>that Navoa had told him that he was upset that

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<v Speaker 1>Shannon had left him for another man, so he wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to burn her stuff that she left behind. The friend

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<v Speaker 1>Navoa had brought to the bonfire was none other than

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<v Speaker 1>Andrew Herman. The police believed that this circle of friends

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<v Speaker 1>was all involved at some point in the murder, dismemberment,

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<v Speaker 1>and cover up, and not one of these people stood

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<v Speaker 1>up for Shannon. In front of a grand jury, Hermann

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<v Speaker 1>confessed that Novoah contacted him and forced him to help

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<v Speaker 1>him dismember Shannon's body and put it in a fifty

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<v Speaker 1>five gallon bin. He was also present for the attempt

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<v Speaker 1>to dissolve Shannon's head with acid. Hermann said that he

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<v Speaker 1>was remorseful for his part but he was afraid that

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<v Speaker 1>if he didn't do what Navoa said, he would be killed.

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<v Speaker 2>Next.

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<v Speaker 1>Novoa received forty eight different charges. Police tried to get

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<v Speaker 1>Katrina to tell more of the story, but she kept

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<v Speaker 1>protecting Novoa. They did get enough information to execute sixteen

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<v Speaker 1>more search warrants and move the case along. Novoa and

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<v Speaker 1>Katrina faced the death penalty, so she ended up making

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<v Speaker 1>a deal to get the death penalty off the table,

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<v Speaker 1>but neither of them would confess to doing the actual killing.

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<v Speaker 1>He was sentenced to time served and released. This angered

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<v Speaker 1>Shannon's family, who said they didn't know about eddy court

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<v Speaker 1>hearings on Katrina's plea deal. They accused the prosecutors of

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<v Speaker 1>violating Marcy's Law, which they said would have required the

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<v Speaker 1>family to be notified of every during or plea negotiation.

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<v Speaker 1>In the case, it all ended up not being a

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<v Speaker 1>major issue because, unfortunately for her, Katrina liked to stay

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<v Speaker 1>in contact with Navoa while he was jailed, and she's

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<v Speaker 1>a dumbfuck because she was unaware that all calls in

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<v Speaker 1>and out of jail are recorded. She called Navoa thirty

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<v Speaker 1>seven times, and with the information police gained from those calls,

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<v Speaker 1>her plea deal was rescinded, and she went right back

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<v Speaker 1>to jail. Good people are so stupid, they are Bellinger,

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<v Speaker 1>the friend who had the bonfire, cooperated with police and

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<v Speaker 1>gave them Shannon's bracelet. When Michelle Ienfeld heard that she

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<v Speaker 1>and her husband Andrew Herman were going to be called

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<v Speaker 1>as witnesses, she sent authorities a threatening message. Both were arrested,

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<v Speaker 1>with Herman getting fourteen charges and i Hanfeld receiving four counts,

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<v Speaker 1>including racketeering, intimidation, and obstruction of justice. Navoa finally pled

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<v Speaker 1>guilty too forty three counts, and authorities dismissed the other

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<v Speaker 1>five counts he originally faced, and Katrina pled guilty to

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<v Speaker 1>four counts. Novoah received a prison sentence of forty eight

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<v Speaker 1>years plus one month, and Katrina was given eighteen years

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<v Speaker 1>in prison. I Nfeld was sentenced to two point five

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<v Speaker 1>years in prison, and she had already been in jail

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<v Speaker 1>for two years, so she just had six months left

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<v Speaker 1>to go on her sentence. Andrew Herman was sentenced to

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<v Speaker 1>four counts and got twelve years. Hermann was sentenced on

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<v Speaker 1>four counts and received a sentence of twelve years in prison.

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<v Speaker 1>Navoa tried to take back his plea argument at one point,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was denied. Shannon's dad, Ronnie DePaul, said after

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<v Speaker 1>learning that she was murdered that he was dealing with

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<v Speaker 1>it because he had to. He said, quote what I

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<v Speaker 1>don't understand is what she could have done to have

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<v Speaker 1>these two people do what they did to her. I

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<v Speaker 1>only got to bury part of a body. Quote. Police

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<v Speaker 1>stop the search for the missing parts of Shannon's body.

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<v Speaker 1>Three years after her murder. Debbie visits her sister's grave

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<v Speaker 1>often and spray paints pink hearts near her gravestone, since

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<v Speaker 1>pink was Shannon's favorite color. She also took in Molly

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<v Speaker 1>as her own and gave her all the love that

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<v Speaker 1>she had in her and according to the Facebook page

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<v Speaker 1>Justice for Shannon run by Debbie, Molly passed away on

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<v Speaker 1>February twenty second of this year. Yeah, little Molly, I know.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's the end of my story.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, that is very bitter and a little sweet. Just

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<v Speaker 2>a bit of closure. Yeah, it's very helpful. Not sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>it's just not going to happen. And even if it

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<v Speaker 2>does happen, maybe it's not what you want, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>still so, but it's still.

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<v Speaker 1>A good story.

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<v Speaker 3>I hadn't heard of it, and Ohio's pretty close.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Ohio is really close. So yeah, I hadn't heard

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<v Speaker 1>of this one. It wasn't that long ago. I just

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder what happened. He's going back and forth between

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<v Speaker 1>these two women and then he just snaps at Shannon

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<v Speaker 1>and murders her. Part of me wonders, did Katrina started? Really?

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<v Speaker 1>Did Katrina? Was she the one that started? Well?

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<v Speaker 3>I always think that, Yeah, Oh for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean Katrina, she's I don't want to use the

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<v Speaker 2>wrong word. She's like a puta. You know, I had

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<v Speaker 2>to look it up real quick. I'm like, I think

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<v Speaker 2>I might be using this right puta puta. So she

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<v Speaker 2>is never going to leave his side. I'm thinking drugs

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<v Speaker 2>are involved. I always think some kind of drugs are involved.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's going to change, you know, the rage factor

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<v Speaker 2>in anything. He's out of prison, and some people don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to be rehabilitated. They just want to get back

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<v Speaker 2>out on the street. So yeah, many manufacturers, bad neighborhood,

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<v Speaker 2>I think they just I think it got out of hand.

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<v Speaker 2>And Katrina is such a low rent puta that she

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<v Speaker 2>was all like, all right, I'll just take whatever hers

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<v Speaker 2>was and fucking like you said, are you kidding me?

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<v Speaker 2>You you brought in a freezer with a.

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<v Speaker 3>Lock, get out, get out out of my house right now.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, Okay, you're not hoarding me that bad that

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<v Speaker 1>you need to fucking lock on it. If I'm your friend,

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<v Speaker 1>I trust me, I'm not gonna raid your freezer. They

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna leave a freezer full of meat just in

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<v Speaker 1>my house and never come back for it and just

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<v Speaker 1>let what the meat get bad? Yeah for years? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>come on, now, come on now.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, and then you just give up your whole life.

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<v Speaker 2>She's gonna get out in eighteen years or whatever whatever

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<v Speaker 2>your time.

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<v Speaker 1>I know. I'm just like whatever, man, But it's just

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<v Speaker 1>really sad.

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<v Speaker 3>They were all working as a team.

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<v Speaker 2>Like it's always sad to hear when someone's not represented

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<v Speaker 2>by people who thought they were her friends, right or

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<v Speaker 2>their front his friends whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>The Judas betrayal I call it.

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<v Speaker 2>You know where you just thought someone was and then wow,

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<v Speaker 2>they're really They couldn't be less fun On the opposite

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<v Speaker 2>side a friend, that's the betrayal.

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<v Speaker 1>So I know it's sad, but still good.

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<v Speaker 2>Have a great sister that's you know, vigilant you know

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<v Speaker 2>has your back whenever you need so those Yeah, well,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 1>You're welcome, Shannon, and thank you everyone for listening to

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<v Speaker 1>this week's episode. If you get done so already, please

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<v Speaker 1>hit subscriber follow and if you would like to hear

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<v Speaker 1>more episodes, Shannon and I have a Patreon that you

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<v Speaker 1>can get one extra episode a week and that is

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<v Speaker 1>found at patreon dot com slash tnt crimes, or you

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<v Speaker 1>can subscribe through the Apple podcast app and you'll get

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<v Speaker 1>them that way too. We have a website and it

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<v Speaker 1>is Crimesanconsequences dot com. You can find information there. Shannon

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<v Speaker 1>and I are working on some new T shirts so

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<v Speaker 1>there's merch and working on some new designs. Think well,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you all again for listening, and thank you Shannon,

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<v Speaker 1>and until our next episode, all

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<v Speaker 2>Right, girl, till next time, love ya, love yall, bye

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<v Speaker 2>bye
