Speaker 1: This episode ma contain content of a graphic nature, including
Speaker 1: descriptions of physical and sexual violence against adults, children, and animals.
Speaker 1: Listener discretion is advised. Hi, this is Tanya. Hi, this
Speaker 1: is Shannon, and we are Crimes and Consequences, a hardcore
Speaker 1: true crime podcast. Hey Shannon, Hey Tanya. How are you?
Speaker 1: I'm doing pretty good? How are you?
Speaker 2: I'm doing freaking fabulous Liday, Thursday, Today, Thursday.
Speaker 1: I have an announcement you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I may or may not continue with the podcast
Speaker 2: on if I'm going with the route that this is
Speaker 2: looking to be. I was playing the lotto online meat
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Speaker 3: I hit right, the power ball was a five.
Speaker 2: Nice, that's what I So it looks like the path
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Speaker 2: you know what, you know what I do with the lottery.
Speaker 2: I'm going to get a van and then we'll just travel, Tanya.
Speaker 2: We then we'll parlay into a travel podcast that we
Speaker 2: just visit different crime.
Speaker 1: That would be fabulous. I am there with you, girl.
Speaker 1: That is so fun. My husband and child won't mind
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Speaker 1: people want. So here we are. We're here to please.
Speaker 2: What about you, girl, how are you anything on the
Speaker 2: horizon for you?
Speaker 1: No? No, just you know, it's been to work week.
Speaker 1: I can't wait till the weekend. He has every other
Speaker 1: work and stuff in this world. Yeah, just same old shit.
Speaker 1: So that is so funny.
Speaker 2: That is so reminiscent of our bingo days in Canada.
Speaker 2: Oh so you know, we live in the Detroit metro
Speaker 2: area and before nine eleven we would go to Canada
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Speaker 2: an event. I had taken Tanya, and I'm used to winning.
Speaker 2: I go there, I expect when even like a small round,
Speaker 2: it's just I don't know.
Speaker 1: And Tanya is sitting next to me and she's all
Speaker 1: like nah.
Speaker 2: Every time, like someone would call bingo and we'd move
Speaker 2: on to the next round, and she's like, oh god,
Speaker 2: I never went and I had to just my dabber
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Speaker 2: I said, I need you to stop with this negativity.
Speaker 1: Okay, I can't draw. I'm a winner.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna win and I can't if you're always saying
Speaker 2: that you're gonna lose, you're too close to me.
Speaker 1: You're giving me bad ju juw. I love it. It did.
Speaker 1: I'm sure it was something. Oh we won a few times.
Speaker 1: It was so great. Do you remember I do? I
Speaker 1: do remember when you told me that. I was like, oh, okay, sorry,
Speaker 1: I need.
Speaker 2: You to amp up the positivity. We're in a win
Speaker 2: the manifestation energy.
Speaker 1: So I remember. It was a lot of fun. And
Speaker 1: that's when I got introduced to gravy fries.
Speaker 3: So they're the best gravy fries.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah. But anyway, anyway, must move on to business.
Speaker 1: And what story do you have for I have a
Speaker 1: horrific story. Of course, they're all terrible. And before I
Speaker 1: get started, I just like to remind everyone to hit
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Speaker 1: and I'm going to tell you about the murder of
Speaker 1: Shannon Graves. So Shannon Graves, she came into this world
Speaker 1: on November fourth, nineteen eighty eight. So that made for Corbiel.
Speaker 1: The dark haired, brown eyed beauty was born in historic Youngstown,
Speaker 1: Ohio two Christine Graves and Ronnie de Paul. When she
Speaker 1: was about six, Shannon learned that she had a half sister,
Speaker 1: Nick Debbie, and Debbie and Shannon shared a father. Okay,
Speaker 1: so the sisters were shocked but excited to learn about
Speaker 1: one another, and Shannon also had a little brother, aj
Speaker 1: who joined the family. Shannon was immediately smitten with her
Speaker 1: little brother, and the sister brother duo shared a very
Speaker 1: strong bond for the rest of Shannon's life. Family meant
Speaker 1: everything to Shannon. Debbie, her half sister, says that everyone
Speaker 1: would gather often for celebration such as birthdays and holidays,
Speaker 1: and they even often had Sunday dinner. She remembers the
Speaker 1: first time she met Shannon, which was on Christmas Eve
Speaker 1: at the home of Debbie's aunt Joanne. Debbie, who previously
Speaker 1: had believed she was an only child, knocked on the
Speaker 1: door and a woman answered, yelling, Shannon, your sister's here.
Speaker 1: Shannon ran into Debbie's arms and hugged her tight, and
Speaker 1: Debbie remembers thinking that Shannon was full of spunk, calling
Speaker 1: her a pitbull. In a chihuahua's body. There was no
Speaker 1: half in these relationships. Debbie and aj were simply Shannon's
Speaker 1: sister and brother, and she had a strong bond with both,
Speaker 1: especially AJ two. So Northwest Ohio was always home to Shannon,
Speaker 1: who lived in either Youngstown, which was a city halfway
Speaker 1: between Cleveland and Pittsburgh, or in small towns nearby. Shannon
Speaker 1: was described by many of her large group of friends
Speaker 1: as a light, always kind and wanting to help others.
Speaker 1: She was even known as Star to her friends because
Speaker 1: of the brightness that she exuded. Shannon was just as
Speaker 1: likely to london ear or hand to a stranger down
Speaker 1: on their luck as she was to help a good friend.
Speaker 1: But behind that shine was pain. Shannon had a rough
Speaker 1: time growing up and sometimes hung around with a rough crowd.
Speaker 1: She lost her mother and all four of her grandparents,
Speaker 1: and those passings hit her really hard. Early life events
Speaker 1: left her feeling ungrounded at times, and her bold personality
Speaker 1: mixed with emotional upheaval, built a hardened exterior around her
Speaker 1: sensitive and beautiful heart. She liked to have a good
Speaker 1: time like most young people, but she gravitated toward people
Speaker 1: who could be a bit dangerous. And sometimes your friend's
Speaker 1: bad habits run off on you. So it should be
Speaker 1: noted that young'stown had a reputation as a hotbed for crime.
Speaker 1: In fact, in the nineteen sixties it was known as Murdertown, USA,
Speaker 1: and Youngstown's murder rate was double what the rate was
Speaker 1: for the whole state of Ohio. Organized crime was involved
Speaker 1: in many and afarious activities around the area. So just
Speaker 1: let you know this is the environment that Shannon grew
Speaker 1: up in. Shannon was arrested in May two thousand and
Speaker 1: nine and charged with two felony drug crimes. Eventually, one
Speaker 1: of those charges was dismissed and the other was reduced
Speaker 1: to a misdemeanor drug charge. Shannon pled guilty on July thirtieth,
Speaker 1: two thousand and nine, and was sentenced to a six
Speaker 1: month suspended sentence plus a fine of one hundred dollars.
Speaker 1: The next year, on August eighteenth, twenty ten, Shannon was
Speaker 1: arrested again, this time for felony theft. In that case,
Speaker 1: she also had a felony reduced to unauthorized use of property,
Speaker 1: which was a misdemeanor, and she was sentenced to thirty
Speaker 1: days suspended and a two hundred and fifty dollars fine.
Speaker 1: Interestingly enough, that wasn't the end of her legal issues.
Speaker 1: She maintained that in both arrests, a deputy clerk signed
Speaker 1: and issued her arrest warrants without establishing probable cause, which
Speaker 1: is a huge problem wow. She and eight other women
Speaker 1: filed a suit against Mahoning County, Ohio, where all of
Speaker 1: their arrests were made, with the claims that their sentences
Speaker 1: were avoid because of the lack of establishment of probable cause.
Speaker 1: This suit focused on their belief that their arrests violated
Speaker 1: the Fourth Amendment, which protects against unreasonable search and seizure.
Speaker 1: Their suit was initially dismissed, then appealed, and there was
Speaker 1: a lot of legal back and forth with the appeals
Speaker 1: court reversing the case, dismissal, and pushing the case back
Speaker 1: for resentencing. But ultimately Shannon and one other woman, who
Speaker 1: had pleaded guilty already to at least one charge, had
Speaker 1: no change to their outcome because they didn't claim the
Speaker 1: lack of probable cause until after they had been convicted.
Speaker 1: So her half sister, Debbie, was like a surrogate mom
Speaker 1: to her during this tough time, listening when she needed
Speaker 1: to talk through problems and giving her advice on how
Speaker 1: to get out of a jam and keep her life
Speaker 1: on track. As you might expect, Shannon didn't want to
Speaker 1: see the inside of a jail again. She always had
Speaker 1: a talent for hair and makeup, so she decided to
Speaker 1: go to cosmetology school. Shannon buckled down and earned her
Speaker 1: cosmetology certification in twenty sixteen through Raphael's School of Beauty
Speaker 1: in Boardman, Ohio. She was proud of her accomplishment and
Speaker 1: she was excited to start her new career. She had
Speaker 1: no idea that it would be a short one. However,
Speaker 1: her sometimes dubious associations extended to her romantic relationships. Unfortunately,
Speaker 1: Shannon's attraction to one of the bad boys you know
Speaker 1: she liked those that her friend had mentioned, ended up
Speaker 1: being her undoing. In early twenty sixteen, Shannon met Arturo Novoa,
Speaker 1: a known drug dealer with a bad temper. By September
Speaker 1: of that year, Navoa had already moved into Shannon's place.
Speaker 1: From the very beginning, their relationship was volatile. Shannon was
Speaker 1: small but mighty, standing less than five feet tall and
Speaker 1: around one hundred pounds. However, even she didn't fully understand
Speaker 1: the depths of Novoa's anger and depravity. Turmoil was a
Speaker 1: constant in their relationship, and by December twenty sixteen, Shannon
Speaker 1: was done. She kicked Novoa out and he moved in
Speaker 1: with a woman named Katrina Layton, in a move typical
Speaker 1: of Shannon and Novoa's romance. He made it just a
Speaker 1: week without Shannon before he was moving right back into
Speaker 1: her place on Mahoeing Avenue. Katrina Layton was completely obsessed
Speaker 1: with Novoa and she was beyond angry that he had
Speaker 1: left her to go back to Shannon. She wanted him
Speaker 1: back badly. Shannon and Novoa continued to have the same
Speaker 1: problems they had had before she kicked him out. In fact,
Speaker 1: the turbulence seemed to increase. On the flip side, Shannon
Speaker 1: was enjoying her job and still spending time with her family.
Speaker 1: She celebrated Christmas with her family and that was the
Speaker 1: last one that they would all have together. Katrina just
Speaker 1: couldn't get over Novoa. He continued his criminal ways, selling
Speaker 1: drugs and participating and other illegal activities, but she didn't care.
Speaker 1: Her obsession with him and jealousy towards Shannon grew stronger
Speaker 1: every day. It isn't clear if he was seeing both
Speaker 1: of them at the same time, but he was calling
Speaker 1: Shannon his ax as he went back and forth. It
Speaker 1: became a lethal balance of the continued problems with Shannon
Speaker 1: and Katrina's constant push for him to stay with her
Speaker 1: that set a plan in motion. Finally, Novoa exploded on
Speaker 1: February twenty fourth, twenty seventeen. Katrina later said that she
Speaker 1: was at the home Novoa and Shannon shared when novoah
Speaker 1: completely lost control, beating Shannon to death in the bathroom
Speaker 1: with a hammer. Of course, that sudden decision left the
Speaker 1: remaining pair, Katrina and Novoa with a big dilemma. What
Speaker 1: were they going to do with Shannon's body? For some reason,
Speaker 1: Navoa shaved Shannon's hair off and sent Katrina shop for
Speaker 1: big fifty five gallon bins that they planned to use
Speaker 1: to store Shannon's body while they came up with some
Speaker 1: sort of plan. Navoa and Katrina tried a couple of
Speaker 1: things to hide the gruesome deed. First, they wrapped Shannon
Speaker 1: in garbage bags and then stuck her in the trunk
Speaker 1: of her own car. They brought her to Katrina's home,
Speaker 1: and Navoa reached out to a man named Andrew Herman.
Speaker 1: Herman and his wife, Michelle Iholmfeld, help Navoa dismember Shannon's body.
Speaker 1: They put her arms and legs in one of the
Speaker 1: bins Katrina had purchased, and used another of the bins
Speaker 1: to store Shannon's torso and head. Sometime around the first
Speaker 1: week of March twenty seventeen, those bins were taken back
Speaker 1: to Shannon's home on Mahoeing Avenue. By then, Katrina had
Speaker 1: moved herself in to that home along with her thirteen
Speaker 1: year old and ten year old children, and they were
Speaker 1: living there with Novoa. She basically took over Shannon's life,
Speaker 1: driving her car, using her credit card cards, and taking
Speaker 1: care of Shannon's beloved dog, Molly. Novoa and Katrina continued
Speaker 1: to keep the body at the Mahoing house in a
Speaker 1: freezer for months while they continued to think of ways
Speaker 1: to dispose of it and how to dispose of Shannon's belongings.
Speaker 1: Navoa didn't want to dump her in the nearby river
Speaker 1: because bodies put their tended to float up. Eventually, Navoa
Speaker 1: and Katrina knew they had to get rid of Shannon's
Speaker 1: body and belongings like time was a ticken, right, somebody's
Speaker 1: gonna notice that she's missing. They were apparently fans of
Speaker 1: the series Breaking Bad, and they talked about how there
Speaker 1: was a storyline that was focused on the use of
Speaker 1: acid to melt a body and to get rid of evidence.
Speaker 1: So Katrina jumped online and, using the screen name Chickenman,
Speaker 1: ordered twelve gallons of sulfuric acid from Walmart. I didn't
Speaker 1: know you could get sulfuric acid from Walmart. Yeah, she
Speaker 1: used an alias, but when she arrived at the store
Speaker 1: to pick up the order, she was told that she
Speaker 1: had to show her actual ID before she could complete
Speaker 1: the purchase. Katrina did so and took the acid back
Speaker 1: to the house that Novoa and Shannon had once shared. However,
Speaker 1: these numb nuts had underestimated the amount of sulfuric acid
Speaker 1: that it took in real life to dissolve an entire
Speaker 1: adult body. Novoa and Katrina started with the huad, but
Speaker 1: they weren't even able to get the head completely dissolved.
Speaker 1: They put what was left of Shannon's head back into
Speaker 1: the freezer and the rest of her body and they
Speaker 1: put their thinking caps on Shannon's family, So you're probably wondering, like,
Speaker 1: what's on Shannon. Yeah, So, her family had been asking
Speaker 1: Novoa where she was, and he kept telling them that
Speaker 1: Shannon had taken off with another man and gone to Columbus, Ohio.
Speaker 1: Then he changed his story and said that when Shannon
Speaker 1: and the other man had reached Columbus, that she took
Speaker 1: up with yet another man. But that didn't sound like Shannon.
Speaker 1: Her family's feet. Debbie, Shannon's sister, was getting suspicious. It
Speaker 1: wasn't unusual for Shannon to take off for a while
Speaker 1: without telling her family or friends, but she never missed
Speaker 1: a birthday or holiday, and she didn't show up for
Speaker 1: Debbie's March birthday or the family's Easter celebration. Debbie sent
Speaker 1: Shannon a text about brother AJ and the reply her
Speaker 1: text made her blood run cold. It said, quote, I
Speaker 1: don't have a brother end quote And they were tight.
Speaker 1: Remember I told you? Yeah? Yeah. So Debbie knew Shannon's car,
Speaker 1: dog and cell phone were still at her home, but
Speaker 1: Shannon wasn't. She would have never left Molly behind her dog,
Speaker 1: and that text about not having a brother just sealed
Speaker 1: the deal for her, and Debbie reported Shannon missing on
Speaker 1: June twenty second, twenty seventeen. Police wanted to know about
Speaker 1: the people in Shannon's life, and Debbie said that one
Speaker 1: of her exes, a man named John, would know Shannon
Speaker 1: better than anyone. He said he and Shannon had been
Speaker 1: together for a couple of years previously and worked together
Speaker 1: in John's roofing business until he was busted on drug
Speaker 1: charges and to prison. John really wanted to start right
Speaker 1: back up with Shannon once he was out, but he
Speaker 1: found out that she had started dating Novoa. He said
Speaker 1: he last saw her on Valentine's Day twenty seventeen. He
Speaker 1: was upset that she was with someone else, but still
Speaker 1: held out hope that they would find each other. Just
Speaker 1: to let you know, this was about four months after
Speaker 1: he was killed that her sister reported her missing. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: So back to John. He said he last saw her
Speaker 1: on Valentine's Day twenty seventeen, and that was about ten
Speaker 1: days before she was killed. He was upset that she
Speaker 1: was with someone else, but still held out hope that
Speaker 1: they would find each other again. Police dug deeper into
Speaker 1: John's whereabouts at the time of Shannon's disappearance, and they
Speaker 1: determined that he had nothing to do with it at all.
Speaker 1: For Novoa and Katrina Leyton, the pressure was on. Navoa
Speaker 1: had a friend who lived on Sherwood Avenue in Youngstown
Speaker 1: and often had bonfires in his yard. He contacted the
Speaker 1: friend and said he had some trash he wanted to
Speaker 1: get rid of and asked if he could have another bonfire.
Speaker 1: Novoa and another friend spent the evening tossing clothes and
Speaker 1: other items such as papers and even Shannon's hair, into
Speaker 1: the fire. Another item thrown into the flames was a
Speaker 1: bracelet with the name Shannon and bossed on it. The
Speaker 1: fire was huge, so huge, in fact, the fire department
Speaker 1: came to investigate and make sure that it wasn't getting
Speaker 1: out of hand. Navoa's friend, who had allowed the bonfire,
Speaker 1: was curious as to what Novoa and Katrina had been
Speaker 1: pitching into the pit for hours, especially because they both
Speaker 1: just kept taking things out of baskets and bins and
Speaker 1: burning them all like it was like endless, Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1: So the next day the friend went digging in the
Speaker 1: ashes to see what he could find. He found the bracelet,
Speaker 1: and he put all the ashes from the fire into
Speaker 1: a laundry basket, including the piece of jewelry. The police
Speaker 1: eventually recovered the ashes and bracelet later in the investigation.
Speaker 1: Katrina had rented a bottom floor apartment and used Shannon's
Speaker 1: credit hard to buy a freezer and they moved the
Speaker 1: body into that. The landlord was getting suspicious because the
Speaker 1: lice was signed, but no one seemed to be moving
Speaker 1: in like the only thing in this apartment was the freezer.
Speaker 1: He told the police that he thought something odd was
Speaker 1: going on there, and the police got a search warrant.
Speaker 1: In a panic, novoa In Katrina knew they had to
Speaker 1: move Shannon's body out of the apartment. He called a
Speaker 1: friend named Kenny Eschenbah and asked if he could store
Speaker 1: a freezer in his basement for a while. He told
Speaker 1: Eschenbah that his electricity had been cut and the freezer
Speaker 1: was full of meat that he didn't want to spoil.
Speaker 1: Eschanbah agreed, and novoa In a friend brought the freezer
Speaker 1: over at night and brought it through the back door
Speaker 1: and into the basement. The freezer was at the house
Speaker 1: in Campbell, Ohio for a couple of weeks. When Eschenbah's
Speaker 1: wife was preparing dinner one evening, she planned to make
Speaker 1: spaghetti but didn't have any ground beef. Not wanting to
Speaker 1: go to the store, she thought that maybe some of
Speaker 1: the quote unquote meat that no Voa had said was
Speaker 1: in the freezer in her basement was ground b for
Speaker 1: something that she could use to complete the meal. It
Speaker 1: was then that she noticed the freezer had a pad
Speaker 1: lock on it. She obviously didn't have the key, but
Speaker 1: my girl pried it open. She wasn't when going to
Speaker 1: the Kroger. No, she was like, I'm not making a
Speaker 1: trip if I don't have to. That's right. Plus, Shannon,
Speaker 1: if you bring freezer over and there's a lock on it, girl.
Speaker 3: Get it out of my house, I know, get it out.
Speaker 1: So she prized it open. She lifted the lid, and
Speaker 1: she starts moving things around. When she pulled part of
Speaker 1: a bag out of the way, she saw what looked
Speaker 1: like a human foot, and the foot bore a scorpion tattoo,
Speaker 1: one that looked very similar to the one Shannon had
Speaker 1: gotten in honor of her astrological sign. Horrified, the Eschenbos
Speaker 1: called nine one one at three forty one pm on
Speaker 1: July thirtieth, twenty seventeen, so ken Eschabab told the authorities
Speaker 1: that the freezer wasn't they, and that a friend named
Speaker 1: Anthony Gonzalez had asked to keep it there because his
Speaker 1: electricity was off. So please soon discover that Anthony Gonzalez
Speaker 1: was really Arturo Novoa. Liice had already talked with Novoa
Speaker 1: previously when Shannon was reported missing, and they went back
Speaker 1: again to talk to him. He denied that the freezer
Speaker 1: was his, but police found the exact key that fit
Speaker 1: the freezer's padlock in Novoa's pocket.
Speaker 3: Dumb ass, there you go.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Authorities had done a deep dive into Novoa's pass
Speaker 1: and learned that he had been living with Katrina since
Speaker 1: about two weeks before Shannon's disappearance. They got a search
Speaker 1: warrant for Shannon's former home and found a big meat
Speaker 1: leaver stuck in a doorframe. Also found was the owner's
Speaker 1: manual for that very same freezer that held the body
Speaker 1: in the Ueshanba's basement, and a body search revealed, like
Speaker 1: I told you, the freezer's key in Novoa's pocket. The
Speaker 1: esshanboss said that Katrina had been in their home before
Speaker 1: with Gonzalez I E. Novoa, and they had heard her
Speaker 1: threaten to kill Shannon. It was determined that the Eshen
Speaker 1: boss had no idea that they were storing a dismembered body,
Speaker 1: and they were not charged, so shannonsas John popped it
Speaker 1: back up again. He had been asking questions of her
Speaker 1: friends and that caught the attention of police. John was
Speaker 1: friends with a man named Steve Baringer, the man who
Speaker 1: had the huge bonfire. Baringer was brought in and said
Speaker 1: that Navoa had told him that he was upset that
Speaker 1: Shannon had left him for another man, so he wanted
Speaker 1: to burn her stuff that she left behind. The friend
Speaker 1: Navoa had brought to the bonfire was none other than
Speaker 1: Andrew Herman. The police believed that this circle of friends
Speaker 1: was all involved at some point in the murder, dismemberment,
Speaker 1: and cover up, and not one of these people stood
Speaker 1: up for Shannon. In front of a grand jury, Hermann
Speaker 1: confessed that Novoah contacted him and forced him to help
Speaker 1: him dismember Shannon's body and put it in a fifty
Speaker 1: five gallon bin. He was also present for the attempt
Speaker 1: to dissolve Shannon's head with acid. Hermann said that he
Speaker 1: was remorseful for his part but he was afraid that
Speaker 1: if he didn't do what Navoa said, he would be killed.
Speaker 2: Next.
Speaker 1: Novoa received forty eight different charges. Police tried to get
Speaker 1: Katrina to tell more of the story, but she kept
Speaker 1: protecting Novoa. They did get enough information to execute sixteen
Speaker 1: more search warrants and move the case along. Novoa and
Speaker 1: Katrina faced the death penalty, so she ended up making
Speaker 1: a deal to get the death penalty off the table,
Speaker 1: but neither of them would confess to doing the actual killing.
Speaker 1: He was sentenced to time served and released. This angered
Speaker 1: Shannon's family, who said they didn't know about eddy court
Speaker 1: hearings on Katrina's plea deal. They accused the prosecutors of
Speaker 1: violating Marcy's Law, which they said would have required the
Speaker 1: family to be notified of every during or plea negotiation.
Speaker 1: In the case, it all ended up not being a
Speaker 1: major issue because, unfortunately for her, Katrina liked to stay
Speaker 1: in contact with Navoa while he was jailed, and she's
Speaker 1: a dumbfuck because she was unaware that all calls in
Speaker 1: and out of jail are recorded. She called Navoa thirty
Speaker 1: seven times, and with the information police gained from those calls,
Speaker 1: her plea deal was rescinded, and she went right back
Speaker 1: to jail. Good people are so stupid, they are Bellinger,
Speaker 1: the friend who had the bonfire, cooperated with police and
Speaker 1: gave them Shannon's bracelet. When Michelle Ienfeld heard that she
Speaker 1: and her husband Andrew Herman were going to be called
Speaker 1: as witnesses, she sent authorities a threatening message. Both were arrested,
Speaker 1: with Herman getting fourteen charges and i Hanfeld receiving four counts,
Speaker 1: including racketeering, intimidation, and obstruction of justice. Navoa finally pled
Speaker 1: guilty too forty three counts, and authorities dismissed the other
Speaker 1: five counts he originally faced, and Katrina pled guilty to
Speaker 1: four counts. Novoah received a prison sentence of forty eight
Speaker 1: years plus one month, and Katrina was given eighteen years
Speaker 1: in prison. I Nfeld was sentenced to two point five
Speaker 1: years in prison, and she had already been in jail
Speaker 1: for two years, so she just had six months left
Speaker 1: to go on her sentence. Andrew Herman was sentenced to
Speaker 1: four counts and got twelve years. Hermann was sentenced on
Speaker 1: four counts and received a sentence of twelve years in prison.
Speaker 1: Navoa tried to take back his plea argument at one point,
Speaker 1: but it was denied. Shannon's dad, Ronnie DePaul, said after
Speaker 1: learning that she was murdered that he was dealing with
Speaker 1: it because he had to. He said, quote what I
Speaker 1: don't understand is what she could have done to have
Speaker 1: these two people do what they did to her. I
Speaker 1: only got to bury part of a body. Quote. Police
Speaker 1: stop the search for the missing parts of Shannon's body.
Speaker 1: Three years after her murder. Debbie visits her sister's grave
Speaker 1: often and spray paints pink hearts near her gravestone, since
Speaker 1: pink was Shannon's favorite color. She also took in Molly
Speaker 1: as her own and gave her all the love that
Speaker 1: she had in her and according to the Facebook page
Speaker 1: Justice for Shannon run by Debbie, Molly passed away on
Speaker 1: February twenty second of this year. Yeah, little Molly, I know.
Speaker 1: And that's the end of my story.
Speaker 2: Wow, that is very bitter and a little sweet. Just
Speaker 2: a bit of closure. Yeah, it's very helpful. Not sometimes
Speaker 2: it's just not going to happen. And even if it
Speaker 2: does happen, maybe it's not what you want, you know,
Speaker 2: still so, but it's still.
Speaker 1: A good story.
Speaker 3: I hadn't heard of it, and Ohio's pretty close.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Ohio is really close. So yeah, I hadn't heard
Speaker 1: of this one. It wasn't that long ago. I just
Speaker 1: I wonder what happened. He's going back and forth between
Speaker 1: these two women and then he just snaps at Shannon
Speaker 1: and murders her. Part of me wonders, did Katrina started? Really?
Speaker 1: Did Katrina? Was she the one that started? Well?
Speaker 3: I always think that, Yeah, Oh for sure.
Speaker 2: I mean Katrina, she's I don't want to use the
Speaker 2: wrong word. She's like a puta. You know, I had
Speaker 2: to look it up real quick. I'm like, I think
Speaker 2: I might be using this right puta puta. So she
Speaker 2: is never going to leave his side. I'm thinking drugs
Speaker 2: are involved. I always think some kind of drugs are involved.
Speaker 2: So that's going to change, you know, the rage factor
Speaker 2: in anything. He's out of prison, and some people don't
Speaker 2: want to be rehabilitated. They just want to get back
Speaker 2: out on the street. So yeah, many manufacturers, bad neighborhood,
Speaker 2: I think they just I think it got out of hand.
Speaker 2: And Katrina is such a low rent puta that she
Speaker 2: was all like, all right, I'll just take whatever hers
Speaker 2: was and fucking like you said, are you kidding me?
Speaker 2: You you brought in a freezer with a.
Speaker 3: Lock, get out, get out out of my house right now.
Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, you're not hoarding me that bad that
Speaker 1: you need to fucking lock on it. If I'm your friend,
Speaker 1: I trust me, I'm not gonna raid your freezer. They
Speaker 1: you're gonna leave a freezer full of meat just in
Speaker 1: my house and never come back for it and just
Speaker 1: let what the meat get bad? Yeah for years? Yeah,
Speaker 1: come on, now, come on now.
Speaker 3: I know, and then you just give up your whole life.
Speaker 2: She's gonna get out in eighteen years or whatever whatever
Speaker 2: your time.
Speaker 1: I know. I'm just like whatever, man, But it's just
Speaker 1: really sad.
Speaker 3: They were all working as a team.
Speaker 2: Like it's always sad to hear when someone's not represented
Speaker 2: by people who thought they were her friends, right or
Speaker 2: their front his friends whatever.
Speaker 3: The Judas betrayal I call it.
Speaker 2: You know where you just thought someone was and then wow,
Speaker 2: they're really They couldn't be less fun On the opposite
Speaker 2: side a friend, that's the betrayal.
Speaker 1: So I know it's sad, but still good.
Speaker 2: Have a great sister that's you know, vigilant you know
Speaker 2: has your back whenever you need so those Yeah, well,
Speaker 2: thank you so much.
Speaker 1: You're welcome, Shannon, and thank you everyone for listening to
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Speaker 1: thank you all again for listening, and thank you Shannon,
Speaker 1: and until our next episode, all
Speaker 2: Right, girl, till next time, love ya, love yall, bye
Speaker 2: bye