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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Parenting Roundabout podcast. I'm Terry Morrow and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Catherine Jileco. As parents and parenting writers, we can't

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<v Speaker 1>help but see everything through a parenting lens. But as

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<v Speaker 1>our kids have become adults, we find ourselves more interested

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<v Speaker 1>in getting caught up on movies and streaming than I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going over the same parenting topics over and over.

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<v Speaker 2>So since we're pretty sure we can find parenting wisdom anywhere,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to talk about what we're watching, what we

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<v Speaker 2>thought about it, and maybe what we can learn from it,

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<v Speaker 2>if only what not to do. Watch and listen along,

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<v Speaker 2>and let's all make like we're doing something important for

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<v Speaker 2>our families. Each Wednesday we bring you our thoughts on

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<v Speaker 2>a newer entertainment property. And for this week of May fifth,

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<v Speaker 2>we're continuing with Running Point on Netflix with episode seven.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's called a Special Place in Hell. And I

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<v Speaker 2>can't figure out why it was called that, Like, did

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<v Speaker 2>we ever get any reason? It's for moms.

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<v Speaker 3>It's that special place in helme mos moms about moms,

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<v Speaker 3>especially moms who involved themselves in their adult children's lives.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you imagine it?

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<v Speaker 2>Moms?

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<v Speaker 1>That mom out of here? What an obnoxious mom.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, guess what she had good reasons for doing what

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<v Speaker 2>she was doing.

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<v Speaker 1>She did. At the end, we see what happens when

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<v Speaker 1>Travis' mom is not there writing on him. Yes, and

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<v Speaker 1>so this from a parenting point of view, advice for moms.

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<v Speaker 1>You have an important job, and you know you have

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<v Speaker 1>an important job. In this case, her job was keeping

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<v Speaker 1>that kid off pills, and so you need to not

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<v Speaker 1>do things that get you kicked out of that job.

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<v Speaker 1>Right if you had just like been a normal human being,

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<v Speaker 1>nobody would have had any problem, right.

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<v Speaker 2>But Bonnie, Yes, and like, ps, where has she been

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<v Speaker 2>for the previous six episodes keeping him on the straight

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<v Speaker 2>and a little bit narrow? Like she she.

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<v Speaker 1>Should always just haven't talked to her.

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<v Speaker 2>Right I mean, yeah, but I mean that's she's been

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<v Speaker 2>annoying everybody. A sitcom move, for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>It is definitely a sitcom move, entirely a sitcom move.

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<v Speaker 2>And as a problem of the week.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it's a problem on myself. I resent this depiction.

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<v Speaker 1>I have got up, gotten up in the faces of

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<v Speaker 1>people who I disagree with in the way they are

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<v Speaker 1>treating my young person. I have done that. I have

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<v Speaker 1>never stripped however.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you made some crash bag chicken?

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<v Speaker 1>I have never made trash bag chicken, though I'm kind

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<v Speaker 1>of intrigued by it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, you might have to get your chef on that.

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of think my husband would go for that

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<v Speaker 1>and find a recipe for it. It sounds like he's

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<v Speaker 1>got a very practical, practical take on cooking. But yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this was Hey, we can get Nicole Sullivan for a week.

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<v Speaker 2>What should we do with her?

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<v Speaker 1>So?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, she.

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<v Speaker 1>Was fun, but it just was it just yeah, I've

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<v Speaker 1>been a mama bear. Not that kind of mama bear,

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<v Speaker 1>but I've been mama be.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. They did pack a lot into her appearance. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, she she got a lot done in the

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<v Speaker 2>two days or however long she was. This this was

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<v Speaker 2>meant to be taking place. And also going back to

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<v Speaker 2>the it's a sitcom thing, I do not care for

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<v Speaker 2>placing Isla and the coach in.

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<v Speaker 1>It. I was yelling at the TV, Yeah, you guys.

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<v Speaker 4>No, not necessary, please, not only is it just a

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<v Speaker 4>stupid sitcom dumb Okay, let's put these characters in a bag,

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<v Speaker 4>shake them all around, throw the Yatzi cup out, and

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<v Speaker 4>see you know which two pieces of dice bump off

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<v Speaker 4>each other.

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<v Speaker 1>It's also you know, it's just like there's been no

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<v Speaker 1>nothing leading up to it at all. Yeah, no indication.

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<v Speaker 2>Previously been shown to be perfectly happy with her fiance

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<v Speaker 2>and this.

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<v Speaker 1>Has never been anything other than professional and.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, friendly, right, and like, let's let them have

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<v Speaker 2>a cordial business relationship, Like why can't we do that?

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<v Speaker 1>So annoying, but I think we have to agree that

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<v Speaker 1>in an episode that had that annoying development in the

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<v Speaker 1>making and an aggressively annoying, intentionally aggressively annoying character and

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<v Speaker 1>Travis's mom, Yes, the most annoying plot plot thread was Jackie,

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<v Speaker 1>come on, really, yeah really, this has been a PSA. Kids,

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<v Speaker 1>lots are throwing themselves at you. Bad things will happen

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<v Speaker 1>to your intimate anatomy.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and I did enjoy the later Eye was yelling

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<v Speaker 2>at him, says like where a condom? And he goes,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll go put on. That's not gonna help, but okay,

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<v Speaker 2>if if it makes you feel better.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh dear, I just I mean, I hated that plot

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<v Speaker 1>development last week, right, this.

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<v Speaker 2>Just made it more annoying. Continued to it.

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<v Speaker 1>Alone, It's like, yes, oh well, he.

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<v Speaker 2>Seems to have figured out how to smooth things over

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<v Speaker 2>with the big boss who's like chairman of the board

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<v Speaker 2>or something.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I couldn't. I didn't know who he was the

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<v Speaker 1>first two times we saw him.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think that's who I mean, we've seen him

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<v Speaker 2>in previous episodes.

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<v Speaker 1>I know we have.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and he finds out that, you know, Jackie has

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<v Speaker 2>what shall we say? Anyway, he finds out that his

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<v Speaker 2>daughter has and Jackie.

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<v Speaker 1>Have saying her name. Are we supposed to recognize her name?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think Jackie knew her as something else maybe

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<v Speaker 2>or he just didn't make the connection, but you know,

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<v Speaker 2>so he wants Jackie fired. But Jackie does figure out

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<v Speaker 2>that some groveling and an edible arrangement will blackly do

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<v Speaker 2>the trick.

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<v Speaker 1>But if if we are not supposed to know the

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<v Speaker 1>name already, the fact that they mentioned it like five

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<v Speaker 1>times means that she's going to be showing up someone.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll be back and we'll hear that name and we'll

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<v Speaker 1>know who That is. So not subtle. But in in

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<v Speaker 1>other other casting news, in addition to Nicole Sullivan, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the doctor who examined him so knowingly, it

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<v Speaker 1>was played by Joe Mandy I think that's the way

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<v Speaker 1>you pronounce his last like a writer and producer on the.

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<v Speaker 2>Place.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and this one. So I saw in the closing credits,

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<v Speaker 1>I saw that name go by, and I said, I

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<v Speaker 1>know that name, but not from acting, right, I got

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<v Speaker 1>to look. But yeah, So anyway, he got himself a

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<v Speaker 1>little a little cameo there as the identifier of chlamydia

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<v Speaker 1>expert identifier.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and that's part of the distance, part of his uh,

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<v Speaker 2>part of his expertise. As a team doctor.

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<v Speaker 1>You go into it for the orthopedics. You know, you

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<v Speaker 1>wind up diagnosing venereal diseases, but you do what you

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<v Speaker 1>gotta do. Yeah, did you enjoy that? The At the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the episode, starting with the coach and Isla

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of the bar scene and then going

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<v Speaker 1>on to Travis taking the pills, there was a music

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<v Speaker 1>cue that was something bad about to happen that was

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<v Speaker 1>repeated about ten times in the music I did not

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<v Speaker 1>since Shrinking had making bad decisions, making bad decisions, has

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<v Speaker 1>there been such an on the nose music que.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Those some bad decisions there, very unfortunate. Oh well, sad sad.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, I I like, I think this show

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<v Speaker 2>is funny and I like the actors, but like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>it's so frustrating all of this just tropy sitcom stuff

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<v Speaker 2>that just won't stop.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, they're like, yeah, they keep getting pulled.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I guess that's you know, we complained about

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<v Speaker 2>shrinking that it was supposed to be funny, and it was,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, breaking our hearts every every week, and now

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<v Speaker 2>this is kind of on the other it's it's still

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<v Speaker 2>breaking my heart in a in a different way of

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<v Speaker 2>like stop that kind of way.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I will be really ticked if this season ends with

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<v Speaker 1>a romantic quandary. Yeah, involving these three persons. No, no, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>stop it.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, just totally unnecessary. There was enough going on

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<v Speaker 1>in this episode.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, certain one.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know, sitcom's gonna sitcom.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I guess, but I don't have to like it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah no, no, we don't, nor do we have to

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<v Speaker 1>watch it after this season. We'll say you're on you're on. Notice,

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<v Speaker 1>what is it with an athlete where they're maybe going

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<v Speaker 1>to get on waivers or probation. You're on probation, running point, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>start playing.

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<v Speaker 2>Right or you're trained to stick around, You're.

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<v Speaker 1>Gonna be off our roster. We like you, you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>believe in you. We think you can do it. Stop

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<v Speaker 1>messing around.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I'm increasingly not sure they can do it.

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<v Speaker 1>We would like to think you can do it, but

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, maybe we're thinking we made a bad

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it has many appealing parts. Yeah, but the game

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<v Speaker 1>plan is not solid, right. Maybe they could get that

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<v Speaker 1>short Indian lady in again to help them figure out

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<v Speaker 1>how to do the do the sitcom equivalent of a

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<v Speaker 1>between the legs basketball thrun.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, yep, switch things up. That's what we like to see.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, all right, are we giving my notes

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<v Speaker 1>when that happened? Oh, for goodness sake.

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<v Speaker 2>Well with with Isla and the coach. Yeah yes, stop that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, maybe Jackie can set them up with somebody nice es.

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<v Speaker 2>So I.

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<v Speaker 6>Anyway, Well, next Wednesday, we'll continue with season one, episode eight,

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<v Speaker 6>The Streak, and we'll see We'll see you back here

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