Speaker 1: Welcome to Political Beatdown. I'm Ben Marcellas, joined by Michael Cohen.
We have a lot to discuss, a lot going on internationally,
a lot going on domestically. I guess let's just start
with the latest news of Maria Karina Machado, the Venezuelan
opposition leader who was the supporter of Mundo Gonzalez when
she was banned from the twenty twenty four elections. They
really won the election back in July twenty twenty four.
I think that Machado has said a number of things
and done a number of things to try to curry
favor with Donald Trump that I think has made her
look weak and has undermined her strength and I think
ability to be an effective leader. I guess I understand
why she thought she had to do that, but I
don't respect it. I don't like it, and I think
she's not getting what she wants any way. But she
was in the White House today. She met with Trump,
not at one of these oval office pressers that are covered.
It was a very quietly done one. And then afterwards
she went to State REGI media Fox and she told
Fox that she sent to Donald Trump with the Nobel
Peace Prize. She says, I presented the President of the
United States the medal the Peace, the Nobel Peace Prize. Well,
as we all know, the Nobel Peace Prize is non transferable.
It is deeply embarrassing that Donald Trump would just want
a fake medal. It is deeply embarrassing that that's what
our country has become. It's deeply embarrassing for Machado, all
aspects of this kind of reek of weakness. But then
at the same time, you had Caroline Levitt, Trump's chief propagandist.
She was holding a press conference and she was asked
about Machado and the meeting, and is it still the
view of Trump and the White House that Machado does
not have the respect to be the leader of the
people of Venezuela, that she does not have the respect.
Let's watch her answer play this club Ja, Thank Caroline.
Speaker 2: Is it still the president's assessment that it would be.
Speaker 3: Very hard for miss Machado to leave Venezuela because he
says she lacks the respect and support in that country,
And will he raise that.
Speaker 2: With her today?
Speaker 4: I think the president's assessment that you just pointed out
was based on realities on the ground. It was a
realistic assessment based on what the President was reading and
hearing from his advisors and national security team, and at
this moment in time, his opinion on that matter has
not changed.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean talk about nonsensical, Ben. You can go
have you ever watched that television show Porn Stars, the
one not porn but porn Pawn with Karrison the store
in Nevada where you can actually go in And I
don't know how people end up with them, but sometimes
you have an athlete that won like a World Series
ring or a Super Bowl Championship ring, and they sell it.
They sell their ring, they because they need money. But
just because you buy the ring doesn't mean that you're
Derek Cheter. It doesn't mean that you are Tom Brady.
I mean, yes, you can have Mike Tyson's WBC Championship
Heavyweight belt. That does not make you the heavyweight champion
of the world. You know, I actually have, for example,
one of Derek Cheter's black bats that you know they used,
uh when he was hitting his two thousandth hit. And
let me be very clear, all right, I am not
I am not Derek Jeter, all right, And just because
you have it doesn't mean, one you earned it, or
two you even should have it. It reminds me so much.
And I told you this story off camera when I
was there in Trump's office when he became president elect.
I can't tell you the number of people that actually
sent him either their husband's, their child's, or their own
purple heart. And he looked at me and he goes, wow,
this is something. And I remember saying to him, but
you are going to return it, right, You should return
it with a thank you note, like a beautiful thank
you note. These people. I don't know whether he ever
returned it. In fact, I'm not even sure whether or not.
I'm pretty sure he probably sent a thank you note
or had one of the girls send a thank you note.
But that, to me is really stolen valor. And the
fact that Machado had to come hat in hand to
the Oval office and prison sent the President of the
United States with a shiny gift to me, it undermines
the seriousness one of the visit and two of the
office of the presidency in both countries.
Speaker 1: Right, And as you saw from the clip, what did
Machado get out of this? What is the pro opposition,
pro democracy side of this getting Donald Trump doesn't want
a democracy in Venezuela. Donald Trump wants his puppet in Venezuela.
And he believes that right now, that's Rodriguez, and Trump
has he prays on her and then she's he prays
on him yesterday and today he said she's a deeply
respected woman, she's a great person, that she'll be fighting
for the interests of America. She's someone who rose through
the ranks of Venezuelan intelligence and I think her father
and family members were deeply entrenched in that as well,
which is really linked to the KGB and two Chinese
intelligence services, Russian intelligence services. And she, many people describe,
was really like Maduro's Steven Miller, that she and Diadados
Cabeo were the real people behind the scenes, and Maduro
was the dancer, right, And so you just think about
and by the way, Delsi used Putin's tactic, which is, Okay,
Machado's coming in the next day, I'm going to give
Trump the call right before. That's what Putin does every time, right,
Zelenski does a meeting. Right before that meeting, Putin gives
a call before and a call after. So I wouldn't
be surprised, although we haven't learned about it yet, that
there's also going to be a call with Delsi next.
Because now what Delsi and Trump agreed to is where
do you think the oil money is going? Let me
give our audience a multiple choice, and A and and B.
Do you think that oil money goes to A A
bank account in the United States of America where there's transparency.
I'll do three.
Speaker 5: B B Hold on, Hold on, did you say A A? No?
Speaker 1: Next B the Treasury Department, where congressional oversight can determine C.
A shady bank account in Qatar, bing bing bing bing bing.
That's where the money's going to. Some shady bank account
in Qatar. Semaphore was the first to report on it.
And so that money doesn't go to the United States Treasury.
That money then is not going to the US taxpayers.
That money is going to a Qatar bank account. The
people who bought Donald Trump the seven forty seven jet,
the people who do business with Donald Trump and Jared
Kushner who are a major part of Kushner's fund. Who
manages that money? Is Kushner going to be a money
manager of the fund. Will it go into a sovereign
wealth fund that then you earn a commission on the
two to twenty deal or a more lucrative deal. I mean,
you pull back from this Cohen and we haven't even
gotten into all the other stuff that's going on. But
just this Venezuela situation, it will not I mean, hat
tip to Semaphore for breaking that story. Great, but in
a Trump news cycle man, he's doing it that didn't
always used to be. Not here on the bas Touch network,
we bring it up, explain to you the ramifications. But
how anybody is okay with that? If you're a Democrat,
Republican or independent.
Speaker 5: It's not just this oil money that is somehow finding
its way to these overseas bank accounts. Whether it's a
Katari account, whether it is a a Gersey or a
Jersey account right in Europe. Nobody actually knows. But here's
the funny thing, because Trump, for whatever the reason may be,
he actually advertises how much money ben how much money
did he claim is sitting right now on a tariff
shelfs as a direct result of his incredible, incredible decisions
on tariffing the entire world? How much money did he
say is sitting on that tarer of shelf.
Speaker 1: Right, Now, it depends what day it is. On a Monday,
it's eighteen trillion. On a Tuesday, it's twenty one trillion.
On a Wednesday, it's twenty seven to twenty eight trillion.
It's one of those. Then some days you get well,
those are commitments. Some days you hear the hundreds of billions.
But generally the number is twenty one to twenty four trillion.
Speaker 5: Okay, let's say it's even one trillion dollars. The question
that I would love to be asking, because I've looked
and I cannot find it. Where is that being recorded?
How Come the Treasury does not have posted on its
site a bank account that actually demonstrates that there's one trillion,
seventeen trillion, eighteen trillion, twenty one trillion, whatever the number is.
I don't see a bank account that is labeled tiff shelf.
But that's just one, that's just one pocket of money.
What about the trillions of dollars ben that Trump has
claimed investment money that's coming into the United States from
countries like cutter, countries like Saudi Arabia or the Emirdes,
or any of the other countries that have claimed to
be investing in the United States. Where is all of
that money? What bank account? How Come Congress, who is
in charge and has the power of the purse, how
come they're all sitting back. Where are our Democrats to
turn around and to say, Okay, you know what, We're
gonna need a little transparent cofellas, and we'd really like
to know where that money is. If it's only one
hundred million dollars, fine, it's only one hundred but at
least it's where it's supposed to be, in the coffers
of the US Treasury, not in some overseas bank account
or used as some slush fund for whatever the hell
that these guys are up to. Where.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's what leads me to believe as well,
that there are broader discussions here taking place with Putin
and Jijingping and others about profit share of spheres of influence,
giving you my opinion, of course, and that there were
broader deals were made out about the others, about US
as well, Russia, Ukraine. Notice, with all the chaos taking
place right now, people aren't talking about Ukraine, and people.
Speaker 5: Aren't talking about Israel. They're not talking about a whole
bunch of things. Either, they're not talking about affordability anymore.
They're not talking about the removal of snaps benefits.
Speaker 1: They're not talking people getting killed in Gaza. People don't
talk about every day yeah day.
Speaker 5: I mean, they're just not they're not talking about you're right, Ukraine.
They're not talking about this ongoing, continuous blitz creek on
on Ukraine by Russia.
Speaker 1: And everybody was everybody. It was a big issue that
people were talking about as we headed into twenty twenty six.
They were all the meetings. Zelenski showed up, and then
there were the meetings with Wikoff and Kushner and the
Russians that took place in Miami. But notice when was
it that the Greenland threats really escalated? Like we know
that from time to time Donald Trump would bring up
threatening Greenland since the start of this term, But when
did it really escalate and become very tangible. Do you
remember when was Jeff Landry the governor of Louisiana. When
did he become a special envoy to Greenland and announced
that he wants to be the governor and take it over.
It was exactly when Witkoff and Kushner met with the
Russian special envoys in Miami. They met there and a
Miami hotel right there on the beach together, and the
next day Landry says, I'm the special envoy to Greenland. Now,
going back to Trump term one in late twenty nineteen,
I just interviewed Democratic congress Member Alkinklaus about this. One
of the tactics that Russia was trying to make NATO
be afraid about was actually Greenland, and it was intercepted
that part of russia intelligence planning was to encourage through
bots and other disinfo that the US wanted Greenland, and
that was it was. It wasn't a huge story at
the time, but it was something that NATO uncovered that
plan that that was part of it. And so you
put this kind of all together. I mean, it makes
zero sense for Trump to say we need to take
over Greenland because others Russia or China will. The very
purpose of NATO is that if Russia or China takes
action against Greenland, all NATO Article five comes to the
defense of Greenland.
Speaker 5: And they have already been un sending you know, troops
and ships, you know, to Greenland, or do we can
really escalate a war? We all know what it's about.
It has nothing to do with Russia or China or
their submarines that he says, you know, travels through the
port just off of Greenland, all these massive icebreakers. I
have no idea why an icebreaker is even you know,
relevant in this in this case. But putting all that aside,
there are rare earth materials and the special envoice company
rest Assured is very interested in them because these rare
earth minerals are needed for AI. That's what this is
all about. And when you have what fifty seven thousand
people living in Greenland? How hard how hard is it
for somebody like Trump to turn around and to say, well,
we're just going to invade you, and we're going to
take We're going to take. Now, you could either sell
us the country or we just take it by four.
Well that's great. Either our NATO ally seventy five years,
some of the oldest ones seventy five years are already
turning around and saying that would be a violation, and
we will not sit back and allow it to happen.
But you know, ben, one more thing, another issue that
we are not talking about nearly enough. Then Ukraine and
the other matters that Israel and the other issues like
Iran and the false claim that we obliterated their entire
nuclear you know, fission apparatus. We're not talking about Epstein.
We're not talking about the release of the files. We're
not talking about the fact that one percent or less
than one percent of the documents so far have been released.
We're not talking about that. This was weeks ago the
only thing everybody was really talking about. What's happened to that? Well,
when you open up the fire hose of chaos and
you flood the zone with everything else, including the possibility,
as from the own mouth of our president, that maybe
we don't even need elections anymore, Well, this is what
you get.
Speaker 1: And where do you think just going back to Greenland,
then we'll talk about Iran, then we'll talk about Epstein.
Where do you think the money would go if Trump
invaded Greenland or acquired it. Where do you think that
if the natural resources were to be sold, do you
think that money goes to the Treasury or to American
banks or do you think it goes to c the
Katari Bank as well? And do you think that Trump
creates his own sovereign wealth fund basically using the Katari
Bank as the repository of all of this money that
will now get diverted away from the American people, away
from the American taxpayers, to a Qatar bank account. I
just I fundamentally, not as a Democrat, not as a
liberal or progressive, like, just as a human. Like when
I cover these issues, I try to see them and
try to understand perspectives, Like I try to put myself
in Maria Karina Machado's position and say, if I was
this opposition leader and all of this was happening, can
I at least understand why she's being so des Try.
I try. But when I think about this idea of like, okay,
the money goes to Qatar, goes in a Katari bank account.
Speaker 3: She's not.
Speaker 5: I don't. I don't blame Machado, by the way, for
coming and giving up her Nobel prize. She's list did
as a Nobel winner. Whether she gives that trophy to Trump,
whether she takes it and flings it into the fucking ocean,
it doesn't make a difference. Her name is on the books,
not his, not whoever holds. You know, the trophy doesn't
automatically get the COVID. You know from it, so I
understand Washt in exchange for a shiny little object. Her
hope was that Trump would back her and endorse her
to become president of Venezuela. So think about it. Would
you not give up a shiny object to be the
president of the country? Right that without his help, there's
probably a very small chance that she would make it.
But with his help, maybe it's a fifty to fifty.
So I get what she's doing. She's playing the odds. Ben.
Speaker 1: I guess the question is, though, like, whether you were Magan,
Mike Johnson well please right, or whether you or McCarthy
or one of these people, why would you want to
be in a position of power if you actually don't
have any power at all? Here, Jeremy put the camera
on me. It's weird, but I'm looking at Michael on
talking as much as I enjoy looking at Michael. I
think the audience said so at some point. And I
have no interest in becoming a billionaire like that just
never appealed the idea of having billions of dollars, Like
it's not something I ever dream about being like a billionaire.
It just doesn't whatever. But let's just assume you have
what people refer to as I excuse my cursings. I
don't like the curse fuck you money. That's how people.
I'm a billionaire, I've got fuck you money.
Speaker 3: Why would you want to have to then beg someone
like Donald Trump every single day to do anything? What's
the point of because you need to have just the
more billions. And so when I go to someone like.
Speaker 1: A Machado and I'm going to show a clip of
her from moments ago, so Jeremy, we can get ready
for that one. By doing what she did, she has
made it so she actually likely won't ever be the
leader of Venezuela in an effective way at this point
because to me, the degree of weakness that she's showing
is something that is irreparable. And you know, in the
span of history, there will be other administrations, there will
be other times. And I just think, even if you're
being selfish, even if all you care about is just you,
I just don't see how in a Trump world you
can do anything other than push back, can fight back,
because you're next.
Speaker 3: It's what they first. They came for this, then they
came for this, then they came for that. They're coming
for you They're coming.
Speaker 1: For you, whether it's today, tomorrow or next or five
years for five years.
Speaker 5: Yeah, things are really things are really in a weird
place right now when you have a scenario that you
have someone who allegedly won the election who is not
inaugurated for that position, and she knows that there's a
very small chance that she is going to be able
to take that position, because Venezuela is a dictatorship all
right and plain and simple. So her her strategy here
is anybody that can actually help help me to get
over that finish line. I'm willing to speak with. I'm
willing to lower myself I'm willing to bend the knee
for and if bending the knee requires to sit there
and to present to the king a right a nobel
peace prize that she won, well, okay, she's willing to
take that. But I'm with you, Ben, History will not
look kindly on it. And I believe that you're right
that when this administration is over and with all of
our help, with all of us being unified as one
voice with one mission, one mission is although we have
all of this stuff, these are just reasons in order
to be on this mission, to be part of this
Midas Touched Network family. The mission is to ensure a
blue tsunami to wipe the red right off the map
in the twenty twenty six midterms. Just imagine how much
things change. Just imagine the fact that Congress will no
longer roll over for their bellies to be rubbed and
allow this administration to get away with the ship that
they are that they are getting away with. Imagine if
you now have instead of a Republican Maga Mike Johnson
as speaker, you now have somebody you know else and
I'm not going to say a king or like a
Jamie Redskin or a or just somebody else who's willing
to take control. And then you have a majority to
go ahead and to pass or to put onto the
floor legislation instead of shutting Congress down. Just imagine how
different things will be. And imagine if we can really
as a unified group as the as a Midas Network family.
Imagine if we're so big that we can actually help
to ensure that the Senate turns as well. Just imagine
how much things change. Imagine the damage that we can
stop this administration from getting away with during the last
two years, and that my friends, is the reason why
we are all here. All of the other stuff, all
of the other investigations, all of the other you know,
visits by presidents and prime ministers to the country, and
the things that like Tim Cook handing Trump a five
pound gold bar right in front of our eyes on television.
It's all side noise. Our mission is the House and
the Senate. Our mission is for God's sakes, to make
sure that we end up not just winning the midterms,
but that we crush it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I look, I say it differently than you
from a network perspective, which is the reality is I
want to win back the hearts and minds and win
back a basic And this is where I get a
little bit. All right, Ben, stop being all philosophical in theater,
but like.
Speaker 5: Yeah, stop being a philosophical.
Speaker 1: I don't really. Of course, I prefer the party that wins,
that supports democracy, no matter where that would be. But
I think one of the things that we've we've done
is a society. And Trump's done this to the society,
and corporate news has done it to society. Is now
we say, like button, that's a special but they've smashed
the moral compass and everything, And I think at an
information age is so rapid and so fast and so
ah like, we don't we don't discuss morality and being
good people and trying to be good people and good
versus evil and doing our best to uplift people like
and you and I did this on the last episode,
and so I'll just I won't do the same speech
I gave last time. But you know, when I see
our government terrorizing communities like Minneapolis and Saint Paul, or
what we're seeing in Los Angeles and Chicago and across
the country, and I just think about this idea that
there can be a hard working person on a roof
oftentimes in some of these wealthy neighborhoods, earning a living,
who's been here for a while, putting the roof together,
and to have these ice agents show up. Sometimes in
Red States they commandeer the fire department because they work together.
In a lot of Red States, show up, pull people
who are putting the roofing on, throw them into cars
and then put him into cages. In the United States, or.
Speaker 5: A minor or, a minor literally on the street, a minor.
Speaker 1: I know. The the Nobel Prize Committee just came out
with a statement rebuking Donald Trump for basically stealing the
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Speaker 1: Welcome back, great dread. Let's talk about what the Nobel
Peace Center just wrote. They said the Nobel Peace Prize
medal and measure six point six centats in diameter, weighs
one hundred and ninety six grams and his truck and
gold on its face a portrait of Alfred Nobel and
on its reverse three naked men holding around each other's
shoulders as a sign of brotherhood. A design and changed
for one hundred and twenty years. Did you know that
some Nobel Peace Prize medals have been passed on after
the award was given. A well known case is Dimitri
muir Tov's medal, which was auctioned off for over one
hundred million dollars US dollars to support refugees from the
war in Ukraine, and the medal displayed at the Nobel
Peace Center is actually on loan and originally belonged to
Christian lou Lang, Norway's first Peace Prize Laureate. But one
truth remains, as the Norwegian Nobel Committee states, once the
Nobel Prize is announced, it cannot be revoked, shared or
transferred to others. The decision is final and stands for
all time. A medal can change owners, but the title
of a Nobel Peace Prize Laureate cannot. With that said,
let me show you the clip of Maria Karina Machado
when she was asked by the press if you gave
your Nobel Peace Prize to Donald Trump? Here play this clip?
Speaker 5: Did you offer to President Trump.
Speaker 1: Over his strife?
Speaker 3: And I told him this.
Speaker 6: Listening to listen.
Speaker 3: Two hundreds of years ago.
Speaker 6: General las again, okay, nobody medal we George believer since.
Speaker 2: Then kept that metal for the rest of his life. Actually,
when you see his portraits you can see the medal
clean and it.
Speaker 6: Was given by General Lafayette as a.
Speaker 2: Sign of the brothers.
Speaker 5: Then United States.
Speaker 1: People of the United States and.
Speaker 3: The people have been austral last.
Speaker 2: Of the podcast. We don't have a year anything kept
and two hundred years not in history.
Speaker 6: Okay, the people of believer, I.
Speaker 2: Give him that.
Speaker 6: The Washington Meadow.
Speaker 1: This goes to the metal of another.
Speaker 5: You know, the way I see it, Donald Trump having
that Nobel Prize is about as valuable as the FIFA
Peace Award that was handed to him. I mean, I
don't know if you get a chance, and a lot
of people scroll on social media. I don't know, Ben,
if you've ever seen any of them, but people started
putting out some of the funniest freakin' memes I have
ever seen about different awards that they were going to
give to him. You know, it's interesting because, as I
said before, just because you have, for example, a World
Series ring doesn't make you Derek Jeter, right. I mean,
you know, it basically makes you the holder of a
ring right to me. To me, While I certainly I
covet you know, those rings, the World Series and Super
Bowl rings and so on, what's the value of that
ring if you're not the one who actually earned it, right,
It's like going assuming that you're you know, into martial
arts and you walk into a store, a martial arts store,
and you buy a black belt, does that make you
a black belt? You could wrap it around your gee,
you could turn around and you could walk the streets
with it, right, trying to be badass and all. But
the first person that turns around and ends up engaging
you in an altercation, you're basically clueless on how to
defend yourself. It's the same thing here, So good for
good for the Nobel Committee for putting that out, to
make it perfectly, we are still clear that having that prize,
that Nobel prize, does not make you a Nobel Prize winner.
Good for that. You know.
Speaker 1: It's again when I go back to what I said before, Democrat, Republican, Independent,
this is deeply range behavior by Trump, by the Bado,
by all of these people. And they I've described it
before as like a zombie movie. You know, you get
bit by the zombie, you become a zombie. And there
have been so many people in our country, you know,
that have been bit by this zombie, you know, maga zombie,
whatever whatever you want to call it. And I'm you know,
of course, being you know a little funny with the
words here about zombie I don't really mean real zombies, okay,
but but to become this, I don't know what this is.
I don't know how to describe. It's just it's not
normal behavior about how adults and leaders interact. You want
a fake Nobel Peace Prize that you didn't earn, and
then the opposition leader in exile is giving you her
fake mail. Why is she giving her fake mail while
you're praising the authoritarian that's currently in Venezuela right now
and running the country and cementing her leadership Delsey Rodriguez,
you know, and then you look at like, you see
what we reported on what was going on in mar
A Lago. You sell the furry party taking place. They've
got this furry party, and this is why they minus
touched out. You know, we report on it all. You know,
we report on what's going on in Minneapolis and Saint Paul.
We've got a DC bureau, We've got people monitoring what's
you know, what's taking place. I mean they did, they
did like this furry party, you know, where they're out
there dancing in their in their dog outfits, and this
is real, is an AI And I just think to myself,
Cohen about the American people right now who are suffering,
and the American people right now, and we saw Donald
Trump's latest polling is just an absolute disaster on everything,
especially as handling of immigration, since they killed Renae Nicole
Good and then tried to cover that up, covering up
the Epstein files. It is horrible. The guys. The guy's
approval is in the freaking toilet bowl right now and
their best issue is one of their worst issues now immigration.
But while all of this is going on, while they've
ripped away healthcare from tens of millions of Americans who
just can't afford it anymore, they're out there doing these
you dog face parties, you know, masks and mar A
Lago and they are telling the people we hate you
like that.
Speaker 5: And let me just say to you that it's not
a furry party that they had. It's a mar A
Lago face surgery gone bad. And this is this is
the new look that they're all going for with their
plastic surgeons. They're going for there you go.
Speaker 1: They're going for the Maltese look. They used to be.
They used to want to they used to.
Speaker 5: Go to the waxings. Now they're adding hair.
Speaker 1: They used to want the well, they used to want
the the mar A Lago Kardashian luck that then evolved
into looking like a cat. But now they're going more Maltese.
Speaker 5: Exact amen to that. You know, this is what happens
when you get Mara a Lago face. All Right, you
end up, you know, looking as.
Speaker 1: You said, Canine, I'll show you what's going on on
state regime media right now. Three things I want to
show you. Just like so if you're watching on Fox,
like what what what information are you getting right now? Well,
they have Riley Gaines, who's now like one of their
main hosts in the White House today and she's reported.
Speaker 7: Doctor Oz, you know that Donald Trump has the best
testosterone of anyone over the age of seventy.
Speaker 1: Here play this, we got it, Charity.
Speaker 8: I saw this morning. Actually it was doctor Oz who
said that President Trump has the highest testosterone level of
any man over seventy that he's ever seen. So you
compare know that he actually failing to say, like President
Trump's going to be really thrilled.
Speaker 5: I that I said that.
Speaker 8: But you compare President Trump to someone, I mean, any
of the Democratic male leaders, someone like Tim Walls, if
you will. You know, mister jazz hands. You ask any
twenty year old boy, especially on a college campus, who
they would rather spend a day golfing with President Trump
or Tim Waltz, you have to imagine that majority of
them are going to say, President Trump, talk to me
about the million John I saw to be funny.
Speaker 5: You know, he's a serious politician. So yeah, you could
want to play around of golf. You would want to
have a beer for I'd rather have I've never had
a beer in my life, but if I was going
to drink, I'd rather have a drink with Gavin News.
You never had to beer in my life.
Speaker 1: The implication there just for let's be clear, they're calling
Walls gay, right. Let mean, that's what they're saying. Ye,
I mean when they say he's got his jazz hands,
that's what they're trying to say. Okay, let's be clear.
Donald Trump's VP JD. Vans, for his early life, said
that he was a gay man. Like throughout middle school
and high school. JD. Van said he was gay, and
then JD. Vance when he changed his name and he
changed his personality. By the way, it's great if you're gay, you.
Speaker 3: Know, don't persecute other people for being gay from the
community being okay, let's live together in ubility.
Speaker 5: But too crazy thing.
Speaker 3: With a different identity said that he was gay throout
high school. Then he said that he had conversion therapy.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Well, the conversion therapy is where they beat the living
piss out of him, which is wonderful. I mean, you know,
just think about that as as an ideology. Think about
that for somebody. The damage that's done to someone's psyche. Right,
and now the guy is the Vice president of the
United States of America. This whole thing is absolutely nuts.
But just because you want to play golf with somebody,
what the hell does that mean? Right? I mean, I'd
rather play golf, for example, with I don't know, Robert
de Niro than I would Donald Trump. Right, I would
rather play you know, I'd rather hang out with Leo
right DiCaprio than I would with, you know, with Donald
Trump too, Right. I mean, I don't understand what the
comparison is all about. Right. First of all, Tim Walls
isn't known for being a golfer and so on. He's
a serious politician. I'd rather, you know, I'd rather have
them compartmentalize what they're really trying to get out there,
and then you nailed it right on the head. They
were trying to turn around and to make the allegation
that Tim Walls is gay.
Speaker 7: Yeah, that, you know, and it's and it's you know,
I mean leave it at that, but honestly, event then
on State Regime, here's what they talk about Riley Gaines
saying about.
Speaker 1: Trump being They call Trump misogynistic. Here, let's let's play
this clip right away.
Speaker 9: He respects women. He's hired a lot of tremendously talented
then and we've absolutely we've met them. And my dad,
former military, as you know, used to say that the
test of a man is how he treats the women
in his life. Can he be that alpha and be
loving in general us and all those things?
Speaker 8: Yeah, I call him a massogynist, but really he's like
the worst massageist ever. Yes, Suse Wiles, Tulca Gabbard, Caroline Levitt,
all wonderful women a part of his team.
Speaker 5: What's the point that they're making there? Well, seriously, what's
the point? Look, Ben, we can sit here and we
could try to understand Donald Trump. I actually understand him
better unfortunately than most people or anybody should understand another person.
First of all, does Donald Trump hire a lot of women?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 5: Take a look, for example, is his first administration, they
did not including it the Trump organization. The number of
people who are executives, and I could probably name them all.
There was only one. Actually that's not true. There were
two who were executives that were female, with one of
whom being Ivanka. So look, I'm not saying he's misogynist.
I'm not saying he's sexist and so on. That I
leave for everybody else to take a look at the
numbers themselves and make their own determination. But I'm still
unsure what the hell the point is that there's a
It's almost like Fox has to fill up airtime with stupidity,
and the stupidity is merely blowing smoke up Trump's ass.
It's fawning over him over everything. First, it's his testosterone levels, right,
I'll tell you what. Why don't we just why don't
we get a copy of the of the report on
his testosterone level? Why not? I mean, if your testosteron level,
why would you not put it out? And by the way,
I wouldn't take it from them let's just turn around,
send them over, you know, for a blood test, and
let's run it with an independent lab and so on.
If it is good for him, if it's not at
the age of eighty. So what I mean, I'm just
trying to understand other than to turn and say he's superhuman.
He's superhuman. He could impregnate a wall, right, I mean,
this is what they're trying to say, is that not
only is he the healthiest president ever, right, doesn't make
a difference that he's turning eighty. He is the highest
testosteron level. He is the best memory. You know, he's
passed every cognitive exam with flying colors. He got to
complete a plus and so on. It's they're trying to
make him into superman. And why they need to do it,
I don't know. It's not going to make him president
for life. It's not going to make him president of
the United States for all eternity. We're all here based
on God's will.
Speaker 1: Right, Michael Cohen, who's that two finger salute to?
Speaker 5: You know? I have to say, huh, there's so many
people who deserve it, But once again I have to
give the two fingers salute to Christino the fact that
she can't even come out and that Jake Tapper interview.
It really got to me, the fact that she can't
come out and say something as simple as we're going
to do an investigation into the death of Renee Nicole
Good and we must every single day say her name.
We cannot allow her to become yesterday's news like so
many other issues have become yesterday's news, because tomorrow it
will be somebody else like the Venezuelan guide today who
was shot in the leg. Enough is enough. We need
to take our cities back. We need to make sure
that this militarization of our cities, the occupation of our cities,
has to come to an end. And so with that,
I turn around and then I say to Christinolm, fucking
wake up, idiot, and fuck you everybody.
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Speaker 5: Oh, it's finally good because we're calling it quits.
Speaker 1: We're going on show.
Speaker 5: For whatever the reason is. It was glitchy, it was bad,
then what do you expect at Spectrum? I had the
same shit going on here in New York. And by
the way, to those that are asking about the ring,
yes that is a Yankees championship ring, but I do
have to say it was earned. Now, no, I'm not
a baseball player. To those of you who've read my
first book, Disloyal, you will know that my son played baseball.
He played high school baseball for the New York Yankees,
for the high school travel team for the New York Yankees.
It was called Hanks Yanks and they end up winning.
It is a duplicate of the ring, and so so
I wanted just to show you I didn't earn it.
It is not mine, it is my son. Just because
I'm wearing it doesn't make me a starting pitcher.
Speaker 1: Well, you're a starting pitcher in my mind. Michael Ah,
You're the best.
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