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Speaker 1: Welcome to Political Beatdown. I'm Ben Marcellas, joined by Michael Cohen.

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We have a lot to discuss, a lot going on internationally,

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a lot going on domestically. I guess let's just start

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with the latest news of Maria Karina Machado, the Venezuelan

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opposition leader who was the supporter of Mundo Gonzalez when

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she was banned from the twenty twenty four elections. They

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really won the election back in July twenty twenty four.

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I think that Machado has said a number of things

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and done a number of things to try to curry

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favor with Donald Trump that I think has made her

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look weak and has undermined her strength and I think

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ability to be an effective leader. I guess I understand

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why she thought she had to do that, but I

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don't respect it. I don't like it, and I think

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she's not getting what she wants any way. But she

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was in the White House today. She met with Trump,

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not at one of these oval office pressers that are covered.

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It was a very quietly done one. And then afterwards

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she went to State REGI media Fox and she told

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Fox that she sent to Donald Trump with the Nobel

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Peace Prize. She says, I presented the President of the

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United States the medal the Peace, the Nobel Peace Prize. Well,

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as we all know, the Nobel Peace Prize is non transferable.

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It is deeply embarrassing that Donald Trump would just want

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a fake medal. It is deeply embarrassing that that's what

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our country has become. It's deeply embarrassing for Machado, all

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aspects of this kind of reek of weakness. But then

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at the same time, you had Caroline Levitt, Trump's chief propagandist.

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She was holding a press conference and she was asked

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about Machado and the meeting, and is it still the

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view of Trump and the White House that Machado does

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not have the respect to be the leader of the

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people of Venezuela, that she does not have the respect.

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Let's watch her answer play this club Ja, Thank Caroline.

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Speaker 2: Is it still the president's assessment that it would be.

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Speaker 3: Very hard for miss Machado to leave Venezuela because he

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says she lacks the respect and support in that country,

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And will he raise that.

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Speaker 2: With her today?

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Speaker 4: I think the president's assessment that you just pointed out

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was based on realities on the ground. It was a

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realistic assessment based on what the President was reading and

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hearing from his advisors and national security team, and at

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this moment in time, his opinion on that matter has

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not changed.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean talk about nonsensical, Ben. You can go

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have you ever watched that television show Porn Stars, the

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one not porn but porn Pawn with Karrison the store

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in Nevada where you can actually go in And I

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don't know how people end up with them, but sometimes

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you have an athlete that won like a World Series

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ring or a Super Bowl Championship ring, and they sell it.

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They sell their ring, they because they need money. But

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just because you buy the ring doesn't mean that you're

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Derek Cheter. It doesn't mean that you are Tom Brady.

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I mean, yes, you can have Mike Tyson's WBC Championship

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Heavyweight belt. That does not make you the heavyweight champion

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of the world. You know, I actually have, for example,

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one of Derek Cheter's black bats that you know they used,

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uh when he was hitting his two thousandth hit. And

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let me be very clear, all right, I am not

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I am not Derek Jeter, all right, And just because

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you have it doesn't mean, one you earned it, or

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two you even should have it. It reminds me so much.

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And I told you this story off camera when I

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was there in Trump's office when he became president elect.

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I can't tell you the number of people that actually

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sent him either their husband's, their child's, or their own

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purple heart. And he looked at me and he goes, wow,

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this is something. And I remember saying to him, but

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you are going to return it, right, You should return

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it with a thank you note, like a beautiful thank

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you note. These people. I don't know whether he ever

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returned it. In fact, I'm not even sure whether or not.

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I'm pretty sure he probably sent a thank you note

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or had one of the girls send a thank you note.

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But that, to me is really stolen valor. And the

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fact that Machado had to come hat in hand to

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the Oval office and prison sent the President of the

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United States with a shiny gift to me, it undermines

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the seriousness one of the visit and two of the

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office of the presidency in both countries.

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Speaker 1: Right, And as you saw from the clip, what did

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Machado get out of this? What is the pro opposition,

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pro democracy side of this getting Donald Trump doesn't want

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a democracy in Venezuela. Donald Trump wants his puppet in Venezuela.

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And he believes that right now, that's Rodriguez, and Trump

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has he prays on her and then she's he prays

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on him yesterday and today he said she's a deeply

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respected woman, she's a great person, that she'll be fighting

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for the interests of America. She's someone who rose through

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the ranks of Venezuelan intelligence and I think her father

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and family members were deeply entrenched in that as well,

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which is really linked to the KGB and two Chinese

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intelligence services, Russian intelligence services. And she, many people describe,

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was really like Maduro's Steven Miller, that she and Diadados

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Cabeo were the real people behind the scenes, and Maduro

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was the dancer, right, And so you just think about

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and by the way, Delsi used Putin's tactic, which is, Okay,

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Machado's coming in the next day, I'm going to give

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Trump the call right before. That's what Putin does every time, right,

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Zelenski does a meeting. Right before that meeting, Putin gives

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a call before and a call after. So I wouldn't

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be surprised, although we haven't learned about it yet, that

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there's also going to be a call with Delsi next.

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Because now what Delsi and Trump agreed to is where

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do you think the oil money is going? Let me

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give our audience a multiple choice, and A and and B.

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Do you think that oil money goes to A A

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bank account in the United States of America where there's transparency.

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I'll do three.

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Speaker 5: B B Hold on, Hold on, did you say A A? No?

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Speaker 1: Next B the Treasury Department, where congressional oversight can determine C.

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A shady bank account in Qatar, bing bing bing bing bing.

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That's where the money's going to. Some shady bank account

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in Qatar. Semaphore was the first to report on it.

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And so that money doesn't go to the United States Treasury.

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That money then is not going to the US taxpayers.

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That money is going to a Qatar bank account. The

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people who bought Donald Trump the seven forty seven jet,

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the people who do business with Donald Trump and Jared

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Kushner who are a major part of Kushner's fund. Who

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manages that money? Is Kushner going to be a money

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manager of the fund. Will it go into a sovereign

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wealth fund that then you earn a commission on the

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two to twenty deal or a more lucrative deal. I mean,

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you pull back from this Cohen and we haven't even

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gotten into all the other stuff that's going on. But

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just this Venezuela situation, it will not I mean, hat

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tip to Semaphore for breaking that story. Great, but in

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a Trump news cycle man, he's doing it that didn't

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always used to be. Not here on the bas Touch network,

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we bring it up, explain to you the ramifications. But

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how anybody is okay with that? If you're a Democrat,

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Republican or independent.

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Speaker 5: It's not just this oil money that is somehow finding

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its way to these overseas bank accounts. Whether it's a

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Katari account, whether it is a a Gersey or a

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Jersey account right in Europe. Nobody actually knows. But here's

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the funny thing, because Trump, for whatever the reason may be,

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he actually advertises how much money ben how much money

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did he claim is sitting right now on a tariff

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shelfs as a direct result of his incredible, incredible decisions

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on tariffing the entire world? How much money did he

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say is sitting on that tarer of shelf.

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Speaker 1: Right, Now, it depends what day it is. On a Monday,

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it's eighteen trillion. On a Tuesday, it's twenty one trillion.

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On a Wednesday, it's twenty seven to twenty eight trillion.

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It's one of those. Then some days you get well,

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those are commitments. Some days you hear the hundreds of billions.

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But generally the number is twenty one to twenty four trillion.

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Speaker 5: Okay, let's say it's even one trillion dollars. The question

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that I would love to be asking, because I've looked

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and I cannot find it. Where is that being recorded?

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How Come the Treasury does not have posted on its

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site a bank account that actually demonstrates that there's one trillion,

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seventeen trillion, eighteen trillion, twenty one trillion, whatever the number is.

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I don't see a bank account that is labeled tiff shelf.

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But that's just one, that's just one pocket of money.

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What about the trillions of dollars ben that Trump has

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claimed investment money that's coming into the United States from

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countries like cutter, countries like Saudi Arabia or the Emirdes,

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or any of the other countries that have claimed to

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be investing in the United States. Where is all of

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that money? What bank account? How Come Congress, who is

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in charge and has the power of the purse, how

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come they're all sitting back. Where are our Democrats to

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turn around and to say, Okay, you know what, We're

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gonna need a little transparent cofellas, and we'd really like

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to know where that money is. If it's only one

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hundred million dollars, fine, it's only one hundred but at

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least it's where it's supposed to be, in the coffers

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of the US Treasury, not in some overseas bank account

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or used as some slush fund for whatever the hell

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that these guys are up to. Where.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's what leads me to believe as well,

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that there are broader discussions here taking place with Putin

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and Jijingping and others about profit share of spheres of influence,

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giving you my opinion, of course, and that there were

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broader deals were made out about the others, about US

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as well, Russia, Ukraine. Notice, with all the chaos taking

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place right now, people aren't talking about Ukraine, and people.

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Speaker 5: Aren't talking about Israel. They're not talking about a whole

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bunch of things. Either, they're not talking about affordability anymore.

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They're not talking about the removal of snaps benefits.

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Speaker 1: They're not talking people getting killed in Gaza. People don't

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talk about every day yeah day.

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Speaker 5: I mean, they're just not they're not talking about you're right, Ukraine.

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They're not talking about this ongoing, continuous blitz creek on

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on Ukraine by Russia.

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Speaker 1: And everybody was everybody. It was a big issue that

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people were talking about as we headed into twenty twenty six.

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They were all the meetings. Zelenski showed up, and then

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there were the meetings with Wikoff and Kushner and the

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Russians that took place in Miami. But notice when was

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it that the Greenland threats really escalated? Like we know

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that from time to time Donald Trump would bring up

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threatening Greenland since the start of this term, But when

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did it really escalate and become very tangible. Do you

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remember when was Jeff Landry the governor of Louisiana. When

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did he become a special envoy to Greenland and announced

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that he wants to be the governor and take it over.

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It was exactly when Witkoff and Kushner met with the

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Russian special envoys in Miami. They met there and a

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Miami hotel right there on the beach together, and the

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next day Landry says, I'm the special envoy to Greenland. Now,

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going back to Trump term one in late twenty nineteen,

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I just interviewed Democratic congress Member Alkinklaus about this. One

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of the tactics that Russia was trying to make NATO

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be afraid about was actually Greenland, and it was intercepted

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that part of russia intelligence planning was to encourage through

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bots and other disinfo that the US wanted Greenland, and

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that was it was. It wasn't a huge story at

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the time, but it was something that NATO uncovered that

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plan that that was part of it. And so you

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put this kind of all together. I mean, it makes

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zero sense for Trump to say we need to take

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over Greenland because others Russia or China will. The very

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purpose of NATO is that if Russia or China takes

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action against Greenland, all NATO Article five comes to the

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defense of Greenland.

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Speaker 5: And they have already been un sending you know, troops

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and ships, you know, to Greenland, or do we can

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really escalate a war? We all know what it's about.

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It has nothing to do with Russia or China or

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their submarines that he says, you know, travels through the

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port just off of Greenland, all these massive icebreakers. I

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have no idea why an icebreaker is even you know,

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relevant in this in this case. But putting all that aside,

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there are rare earth materials and the special envoice company

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rest Assured is very interested in them because these rare

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earth minerals are needed for AI. That's what this is

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all about. And when you have what fifty seven thousand

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people living in Greenland? How hard how hard is it

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for somebody like Trump to turn around and to say, well,

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we're just going to invade you, and we're going to

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take We're going to take. Now, you could either sell

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us the country or we just take it by four.

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Well that's great. Either our NATO ally seventy five years,

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some of the oldest ones seventy five years are already

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turning around and saying that would be a violation, and

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we will not sit back and allow it to happen.

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But you know, ben, one more thing, another issue that

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we are not talking about nearly enough. Then Ukraine and

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the other matters that Israel and the other issues like

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Iran and the false claim that we obliterated their entire

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nuclear you know, fission apparatus. We're not talking about Epstein.

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not talking about the fact that one percent or less

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than one percent of the documents so far have been released.

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only thing everybody was really talking about. What's happened to that? Well,

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when you open up the fire hose of chaos and

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you flood the zone with everything else, including the possibility,

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as from the own mouth of our president, that maybe

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we don't even need elections anymore, Well, this is what

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you get.

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Speaker 1: And where do you think just going back to Greenland,

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then we'll talk about Iran, then we'll talk about Epstein.

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Where do you think the money would go if Trump

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invaded Greenland or acquired it. Where do you think that

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if the natural resources were to be sold, do you

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think that money goes to the Treasury or to American

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banks or do you think it goes to c the

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Katari Bank as well? And do you think that Trump

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creates his own sovereign wealth fund basically using the Katari

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Bank as the repository of all of this money that

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will now get diverted away from the American people, away

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from the American taxpayers, to a Qatar bank account. I

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just I fundamentally, not as a Democrat, not as a

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liberal or progressive, like, just as a human. Like when

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I cover these issues, I try to see them and

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try to understand perspectives, Like I try to put myself

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in Maria Karina Machado's position and say, if I was

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this opposition leader and all of this was happening, can

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I at least understand why she's being so des Try.

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I try. But when I think about this idea of like, okay,

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the money goes to Qatar, goes in a Katari bank account.

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Speaker 3: She's not.

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Speaker 5: I don't. I don't blame Machado, by the way, for

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coming and giving up her Nobel prize. She's list did

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as a Nobel winner. Whether she gives that trophy to Trump,

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whether she takes it and flings it into the fucking ocean,

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it doesn't make a difference. Her name is on the books,

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not his, not whoever holds. You know, the trophy doesn't

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automatically get the COVID. You know from it, so I

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understand Washt in exchange for a shiny little object. Her

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hope was that Trump would back her and endorse her

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to become president of Venezuela. So think about it. Would

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you not give up a shiny object to be the

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president of the country? Right that without his help, there's

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probably a very small chance that she would make it.

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But with his help, maybe it's a fifty to fifty.

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So I get what she's doing. She's playing the odds. Ben.

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Speaker 1: I guess the question is, though, like, whether you were Magan,

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Mike Johnson well please right, or whether you or McCarthy

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or one of these people, why would you want to

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be in a position of power if you actually don't

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have any power at all? Here, Jeremy put the camera

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on me. It's weird, but I'm looking at Michael on

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talking as much as I enjoy looking at Michael. I

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think the audience said so at some point. And I

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have no interest in becoming a billionaire like that just

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never appealed the idea of having billions of dollars, Like

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it's not something I ever dream about being like a billionaire.

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It just doesn't whatever. But let's just assume you have

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what people refer to as I excuse my cursings. I

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don't like the curse fuck you money. That's how people.

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I'm a billionaire, I've got fuck you money.

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Speaker 3: Why would you want to have to then beg someone

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like Donald Trump every single day to do anything? What's

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the point of because you need to have just the

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more billions. And so when I go to someone like.

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Speaker 1: A Machado and I'm going to show a clip of

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her from moments ago, so Jeremy, we can get ready

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for that one. By doing what she did, she has

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made it so she actually likely won't ever be the

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leader of Venezuela in an effective way at this point

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because to me, the degree of weakness that she's showing

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is something that is irreparable. And you know, in the

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span of history, there will be other administrations, there will

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be other times. And I just think, even if you're

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being selfish, even if all you care about is just you,

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I just don't see how in a Trump world you

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can do anything other than push back, can fight back,

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because you're next.

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Speaker 3: It's what they first. They came for this, then they

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came for this, then they came for that. They're coming

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for you They're coming.

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Speaker 1: For you, whether it's today, tomorrow or next or five

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years for five years.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, things are really things are really in a weird

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place right now when you have a scenario that you

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have someone who allegedly won the election who is not

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inaugurated for that position, and she knows that there's a

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very small chance that she is going to be able

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to take that position, because Venezuela is a dictatorship all

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right and plain and simple. So her her strategy here

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is anybody that can actually help help me to get

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over that finish line. I'm willing to speak with. I'm

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willing to lower myself I'm willing to bend the knee

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for and if bending the knee requires to sit there

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and to present to the king a right a nobel

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peace prize that she won, well, okay, she's willing to

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take that. But I'm with you, Ben, History will not

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look kindly on it. And I believe that you're right

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that when this administration is over and with all of

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our help, with all of us being unified as one

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voice with one mission, one mission is although we have

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all of this stuff, these are just reasons in order

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to be on this mission, to be part of this

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Midas Touched Network family. The mission is to ensure a

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blue tsunami to wipe the red right off the map

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in the twenty twenty six midterms. Just imagine how much

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things change. Just imagine the fact that Congress will no

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longer roll over for their bellies to be rubbed and

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allow this administration to get away with the ship that

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they are that they are getting away with. Imagine if

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you now have instead of a Republican Maga Mike Johnson

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as speaker, you now have somebody you know else and

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I'm not going to say a king or like a

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Jamie Redskin or a or just somebody else who's willing

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to take control. And then you have a majority to

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go ahead and to pass or to put onto the

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floor legislation instead of shutting Congress down. Just imagine how

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different things will be. And imagine if we can really

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as a unified group as the as a Midas Network family.

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Imagine if we're so big that we can actually help

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to ensure that the Senate turns as well. Just imagine

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how much things change. Imagine the damage that we can

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stop this administration from getting away with during the last

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two years, and that my friends, is the reason why

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we are all here. All of the other stuff, all

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of the other investigations, all of the other you know,

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visits by presidents and prime ministers to the country, and

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the things that like Tim Cook handing Trump a five

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pound gold bar right in front of our eyes on television.

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It's all side noise. Our mission is the House and

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the Senate. Our mission is for God's sakes, to make

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sure that we end up not just winning the midterms,

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but that we crush it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I look, I say it differently than you

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from a network perspective, which is the reality is I

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want to win back the hearts and minds and win

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back a basic And this is where I get a

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little bit. All right, Ben, stop being all philosophical in theater,

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but like.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, stop being a philosophical.

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Speaker 1: I don't really. Of course, I prefer the party that wins,

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that supports democracy, no matter where that would be. But

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I think one of the things that we've we've done

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is a society. And Trump's done this to the society,

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and corporate news has done it to society. Is now

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we say, like button, that's a special but they've smashed

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the moral compass and everything, And I think at an

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information age is so rapid and so fast and so

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ah like, we don't we don't discuss morality and being

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good people and trying to be good people and good

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versus evil and doing our best to uplift people like

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and you and I did this on the last episode,

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and so I'll just I won't do the same speech

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I gave last time. But you know, when I see

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our government terrorizing communities like Minneapolis and Saint Paul, or

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what we're seeing in Los Angeles and Chicago and across

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the country, and I just think about this idea that

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there can be a hard working person on a roof

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oftentimes in some of these wealthy neighborhoods, earning a living,

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who's been here for a while, putting the roof together,

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and to have these ice agents show up. Sometimes in

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Red States they commandeer the fire department because they work together.

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In a lot of Red States, show up, pull people

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who are putting the roofing on, throw them into cars

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and then put him into cages. In the United States, or.

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Speaker 5: A minor or, a minor literally on the street, a minor.

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Speaker 1: I know. The the Nobel Prize Committee just came out

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with a statement rebuking Donald Trump for basically stealing the

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metal I want to talk about that. Let's take our

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Speaker 1: Welcome back, great dread. Let's talk about what the Nobel

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Peace Center just wrote. They said the Nobel Peace Prize

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medal and measure six point six centats in diameter, weighs

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one hundred and ninety six grams and his truck and

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gold on its face a portrait of Alfred Nobel and

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on its reverse three naked men holding around each other's

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shoulders as a sign of brotherhood. A design and changed

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for one hundred and twenty years. Did you know that

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some Nobel Peace Prize medals have been passed on after

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the award was given. A well known case is Dimitri

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muir Tov's medal, which was auctioned off for over one

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hundred million dollars US dollars to support refugees from the

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war in Ukraine, and the medal displayed at the Nobel

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Peace Center is actually on loan and originally belonged to

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Christian lou Lang, Norway's first Peace Prize Laureate. But one

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truth remains, as the Norwegian Nobel Committee states, once the

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Nobel Prize is announced, it cannot be revoked, shared or

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transferred to others. The decision is final and stands for

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all time. A medal can change owners, but the title

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of a Nobel Peace Prize Laureate cannot. With that said,

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let me show you the clip of Maria Karina Machado

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when she was asked by the press if you gave

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your Nobel Peace Prize to Donald Trump? Here play this clip?

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Speaker 5: Did you offer to President Trump.

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Speaker 1: Over his strife?

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Speaker 3: And I told him this.

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Speaker 6: Listening to listen.

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Speaker 3: Two hundreds of years ago.

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Speaker 6: General las again, okay, nobody medal we George believer since.

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Speaker 2: Then kept that metal for the rest of his life. Actually,

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when you see his portraits you can see the medal

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clean and it.

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Speaker 6: Was given by General Lafayette as a.

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Speaker 2: Sign of the brothers.

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Speaker 5: Then United States.

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Speaker 1: People of the United States and.

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Speaker 3: The people have been austral last.

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Speaker 2: Of the podcast. We don't have a year anything kept

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and two hundred years not in history.

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Speaker 6: Okay, the people of believer, I.

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Speaker 2: Give him that.

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Speaker 6: The Washington Meadow.

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Speaker 1: This goes to the metal of another.

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Speaker 5: You know, the way I see it, Donald Trump having

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that Nobel Prize is about as valuable as the FIFA

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Peace Award that was handed to him. I mean, I

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don't know if you get a chance, and a lot

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of people scroll on social media. I don't know, Ben,

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if you've ever seen any of them, but people started

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putting out some of the funniest freakin' memes I have

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ever seen about different awards that they were going to

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give to him. You know, it's interesting because, as I

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said before, just because you have, for example, a World

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Series ring doesn't make you Derek Jeter, right. I mean,

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you know, it basically makes you the holder of a

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ring right to me. To me, While I certainly I

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covet you know, those rings, the World Series and Super

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Bowl rings and so on, what's the value of that

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ring if you're not the one who actually earned it, right,

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It's like going assuming that you're you know, into martial

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arts and you walk into a store, a martial arts store,

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and you buy a black belt, does that make you

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a black belt? You could wrap it around your gee,

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you could turn around and you could walk the streets

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with it, right, trying to be badass and all. But

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the first person that turns around and ends up engaging

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you in an altercation, you're basically clueless on how to

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defend yourself. It's the same thing here, So good for

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good for the Nobel Committee for putting that out, to

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make it perfectly, we are still clear that having that prize,

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that Nobel prize, does not make you a Nobel Prize winner.

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Good for that. You know.

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Speaker 1: It's again when I go back to what I said before, Democrat, Republican, Independent,

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this is deeply range behavior by Trump, by the Bado,

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by all of these people. And they I've described it

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before as like a zombie movie. You know, you get

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bit by the zombie, you become a zombie. And there

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have been so many people in our country, you know,

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that have been bit by this zombie, you know, maga zombie,

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whatever whatever you want to call it. And I'm you know,

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of course, being you know a little funny with the

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words here about zombie I don't really mean real zombies, okay,

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but but to become this, I don't know what this is.

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I don't know how to describe. It's just it's not

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normal behavior about how adults and leaders interact. You want

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a fake Nobel Peace Prize that you didn't earn, and

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then the opposition leader in exile is giving you her

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fake mail. Why is she giving her fake mail while

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you're praising the authoritarian that's currently in Venezuela right now

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and running the country and cementing her leadership Delsey Rodriguez,

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you know, and then you look at like, you see

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what we reported on what was going on in mar

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A Lago. You sell the furry party taking place. They've

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got this furry party, and this is why they minus

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touched out. You know, we report on it all. You know,

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we report on what's going on in Minneapolis and Saint Paul.

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We've got a DC bureau, We've got people monitoring what's

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you know, what's taking place. I mean they did, they

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did like this furry party, you know, where they're out

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there dancing in their in their dog outfits, and this

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is real, is an AI And I just think to myself,

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Cohen about the American people right now who are suffering,

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and the American people right now, and we saw Donald

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Trump's latest polling is just an absolute disaster on everything,

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especially as handling of immigration, since they killed Renae Nicole

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Good and then tried to cover that up, covering up

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the Epstein files. It is horrible. The guys. The guy's

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approval is in the freaking toilet bowl right now and

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their best issue is one of their worst issues now immigration.

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But while all of this is going on, while they've

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ripped away healthcare from tens of millions of Americans who

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just can't afford it anymore, they're out there doing these

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you dog face parties, you know, masks and mar A

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Lago and they are telling the people we hate you

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like that.

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Speaker 5: And let me just say to you that it's not

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a furry party that they had. It's a mar A

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Lago face surgery gone bad. And this is this is

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the new look that they're all going for with their

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plastic surgeons. They're going for there you go.

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Speaker 1: They're going for the Maltese look. They used to be.

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They used to want to they used to.

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Speaker 5: Go to the waxings. Now they're adding hair.

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Speaker 1: They used to want the well, they used to want

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the the mar A Lago Kardashian luck that then evolved

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into looking like a cat. But now they're going more Maltese.

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Speaker 5: Exact amen to that. You know, this is what happens

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when you get Mara a Lago face. All Right, you

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end up, you know, looking as.

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Speaker 1: You said, Canine, I'll show you what's going on on

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state regime media right now. Three things I want to

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show you. Just like so if you're watching on Fox,

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like what what what information are you getting right now? Well,

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they have Riley Gaines, who's now like one of their

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main hosts in the White House today and she's reported.

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Speaker 7: Doctor Oz, you know that Donald Trump has the best

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testosterone of anyone over the age of seventy.

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Speaker 1: Here play this, we got it, Charity.

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Speaker 8: I saw this morning. Actually it was doctor Oz who

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said that President Trump has the highest testosterone level of

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any man over seventy that he's ever seen. So you

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compare know that he actually failing to say, like President

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Trump's going to be really thrilled.

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Speaker 5: I that I said that.

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Speaker 8: But you compare President Trump to someone, I mean, any

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of the Democratic male leaders, someone like Tim Walls, if

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you will. You know, mister jazz hands. You ask any

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twenty year old boy, especially on a college campus, who

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they would rather spend a day golfing with President Trump

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or Tim Waltz, you have to imagine that majority of

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them are going to say, President Trump, talk to me

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about the million John I saw to be funny.

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Speaker 5: You know, he's a serious politician. So yeah, you could

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want to play around of golf. You would want to

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have a beer for I'd rather have I've never had

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a beer in my life, but if I was going

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to drink, I'd rather have a drink with Gavin News.

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You never had to beer in my life.

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Speaker 1: The implication there just for let's be clear, they're calling

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Walls gay, right. Let mean, that's what they're saying. Ye,

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I mean when they say he's got his jazz hands,

644
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that's what they're trying to say. Okay, let's be clear.

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Donald Trump's VP JD. Vans, for his early life, said

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that he was a gay man. Like throughout middle school

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and high school. JD. Van said he was gay, and

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then JD. Vance when he changed his name and he

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changed his personality. By the way, it's great if you're gay, you.

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Speaker 3: Know, don't persecute other people for being gay from the

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community being okay, let's live together in ubility.

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Speaker 5: But too crazy thing.

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Speaker 3: With a different identity said that he was gay throout

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high school. Then he said that he had conversion therapy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Well, the conversion therapy is where they beat the living

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piss out of him, which is wonderful. I mean, you know,

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just think about that as as an ideology. Think about

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that for somebody. The damage that's done to someone's psyche. Right,

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and now the guy is the Vice president of the

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United States of America. This whole thing is absolutely nuts.

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But just because you want to play golf with somebody,

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what the hell does that mean? Right? I mean, I'd

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rather play golf, for example, with I don't know, Robert

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de Niro than I would Donald Trump. Right, I would

666
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rather play you know, I'd rather hang out with Leo

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right DiCaprio than I would with, you know, with Donald

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Trump too, Right. I mean, I don't understand what the

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comparison is all about. Right. First of all, Tim Walls

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isn't known for being a golfer and so on. He's

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a serious politician. I'd rather, you know, I'd rather have

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them compartmentalize what they're really trying to get out there,

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and then you nailed it right on the head. They

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were trying to turn around and to make the allegation

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that Tim Walls is gay.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, that, you know, and it's and it's you know,

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I mean leave it at that, but honestly, event then

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on State Regime, here's what they talk about Riley Gaines

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saying about.

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Speaker 1: Trump being They call Trump misogynistic. Here, let's let's play

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this clip right away.

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Speaker 9: He respects women. He's hired a lot of tremendously talented

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then and we've absolutely we've met them. And my dad,

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former military, as you know, used to say that the

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test of a man is how he treats the women

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in his life. Can he be that alpha and be

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loving in general us and all those things?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I call him a massogynist, but really he's like

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the worst massageist ever. Yes, Suse Wiles, Tulca Gabbard, Caroline Levitt,

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all wonderful women a part of his team.

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Speaker 5: What's the point that they're making there? Well, seriously, what's

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the point? Look, Ben, we can sit here and we

693
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could try to understand Donald Trump. I actually understand him

694
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better unfortunately than most people or anybody should understand another person.

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First of all, does Donald Trump hire a lot of women?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 5: Take a look, for example, is his first administration, they

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did not including it the Trump organization. The number of

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people who are executives, and I could probably name them all.

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There was only one. Actually that's not true. There were

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two who were executives that were female, with one of

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whom being Ivanka. So look, I'm not saying he's misogynist.

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I'm not saying he's sexist and so on. That I

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leave for everybody else to take a look at the

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numbers themselves and make their own determination. But I'm still

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unsure what the hell the point is that there's a

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It's almost like Fox has to fill up airtime with stupidity,

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and the stupidity is merely blowing smoke up Trump's ass.

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It's fawning over him over everything. First, it's his testosterone levels, right,

710
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I'll tell you what. Why don't we just why don't

711
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:47,280
we get a copy of the of the report on

712
00:47:47,519 --> 00:47:52,800
his testosterone level? Why not? I mean, if your testosteron level,

713
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:54,400
why would you not put it out? And by the way,

714
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I wouldn't take it from them let's just turn around,

715
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send them over, you know, for a blood test, and

716
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let's run it with an independent lab and so on.

717
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If it is good for him, if it's not at

718
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the age of eighty. So what I mean, I'm just

719
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trying to understand other than to turn and say he's superhuman.

720
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He's superhuman. He could impregnate a wall, right, I mean,

721
00:48:18,639 --> 00:48:21,079
this is what they're trying to say, is that not

722
00:48:21,119 --> 00:48:24,719
only is he the healthiest president ever, right, doesn't make

723
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:27,000
a difference that he's turning eighty. He is the highest

724
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testosteron level. He is the best memory. You know, he's

725
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:33,559
passed every cognitive exam with flying colors. He got to

726
00:48:33,639 --> 00:48:36,920
complete a plus and so on. It's they're trying to

727
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:40,840
make him into superman. And why they need to do it,

728
00:48:41,039 --> 00:48:43,519
I don't know. It's not going to make him president

729
00:48:43,559 --> 00:48:46,000
for life. It's not going to make him president of

730
00:48:46,039 --> 00:48:50,239
the United States for all eternity. We're all here based

731
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on God's will.

732
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Speaker 1: Right, Michael Cohen, who's that two finger salute to?

733
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Speaker 5: You know? I have to say, huh, there's so many

734
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people who deserve it, But once again I have to

735
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:11,079
give the two fingers salute to Christino the fact that

736
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she can't even come out and that Jake Tapper interview.

737
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:20,480
It really got to me, the fact that she can't

738
00:49:20,519 --> 00:49:25,400
come out and say something as simple as we're going

739
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:29,880
to do an investigation into the death of Renee Nicole

740
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:33,320
Good and we must every single day say her name.

741
00:49:33,519 --> 00:49:37,480
We cannot allow her to become yesterday's news like so

742
00:49:37,599 --> 00:49:42,559
many other issues have become yesterday's news, because tomorrow it

743
00:49:42,599 --> 00:49:46,119
will be somebody else like the Venezuelan guide today who

744
00:49:46,199 --> 00:49:49,360
was shot in the leg. Enough is enough. We need

745
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:51,880
to take our cities back. We need to make sure

746
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:56,480
that this militarization of our cities, the occupation of our cities,

747
00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:59,039
has to come to an end. And so with that,

748
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:02,239
I turn around and then I say to Christinolm, fucking

749
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wake up, idiot, and fuck you everybody.

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Speaker 1: Make sure you subscribe to the Maya Kulpa audio podcast.

751
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:15,440
Subscribe to Michael Cohen's YouTube channel at The Michael Cohen Show.

752
00:50:15,559 --> 00:50:19,840
Subscribe to Michael Cohen's Substack research Michael Cohen on Substack.

753
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:25,119
Subscribe to our YouTube channel as well, and apologize if

754
00:50:25,199 --> 00:50:26,800
the Internet was bad. I don't know what was up

755
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:28,840
again with that, but is it bad? Right now, Cohen,

756
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as I'm speaking.

757
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Speaker 5: Oh, it's finally good because we're calling it quits.

758
00:50:32,679 --> 00:50:33,519
Speaker 1: We're going on show.

759
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Speaker 5: For whatever the reason is. It was glitchy, it was bad,

760
00:50:37,079 --> 00:50:39,320
then what do you expect at Spectrum? I had the

761
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same shit going on here in New York. And by

762
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the way, to those that are asking about the ring,

763
00:50:44,519 --> 00:50:48,800
yes that is a Yankees championship ring, but I do

764
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:52,039
have to say it was earned. Now, no, I'm not

765
00:50:52,079 --> 00:50:54,440
a baseball player. To those of you who've read my

766
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:58,599
first book, Disloyal, you will know that my son played baseball.

767
00:50:58,639 --> 00:51:02,199
He played high school baseball for the New York Yankees,

768
00:51:02,199 --> 00:51:04,920
for the high school travel team for the New York Yankees.

769
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It was called Hanks Yanks and they end up winning.

770
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It is a duplicate of the ring, and so so

771
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I wanted just to show you I didn't earn it.

772
00:51:14,199 --> 00:51:17,239
It is not mine, it is my son. Just because

773
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:19,960
I'm wearing it doesn't make me a starting pitcher.

774
00:51:21,079 --> 00:51:24,599
Speaker 1: Well, you're a starting pitcher in my mind. Michael Ah,

775
00:51:24,639 --> 00:51:25,199
You're the best.

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Speaker 5: Ben Appreciate you.

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