Speaker 1: When your skin is not inflamed, you're happier, and your
Speaker 1: cortisol is down, your immune system isn't trying to flare
Speaker 1: things up, and then you have.
Speaker 2: Clarity, you know.
Speaker 1: So it's really interesting when you start thinking about your
Speaker 1: systems and how interconnected they are and how you can
Speaker 1: nourish them in various ways to just have optimal wellness.
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Speaker 3: Hello everybody, today we're talking about plant based skincare. Recently,
Speaker 3: I had an exema flare up on one finger after
Speaker 3: a very long time of everything being good, and it
Speaker 3: reminded me of the cycle of trying a new product,
Speaker 3: hoping it's going to be the thing that finally helps,
Speaker 3: only to realize that it didn't help. And this is
Speaker 3: what actually pushed me to pay much closer attention to
Speaker 3: what I eat and what I put on my body
Speaker 3: way back when I ended up fixing my EXAMA for
Speaker 3: several years. So I was a bit disappointed when I
Speaker 3: had this flare up. So today I'm chatting with Jody Scott,
Speaker 3: who was the founder of green Goo, a plant based
Speaker 3: first aid and herbal wellness company. Every plant they use
Speaker 3: in their products is there for a purpose, and they
Speaker 3: don't use synthetics, perfumes, or artificial ingredients. Now, before we began,
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Speaker 3: channel and LinkedIn page. And now to the conversation. Hi, Jody,
Speaker 3: welcome to the show. It's so nice to have you
Speaker 3: on today.
Speaker 2: It's wonderful to be here with you. Thank you for
Speaker 2: having me.
Speaker 3: You know, I must admit I'm doing this episode out
Speaker 3: of self interest because when I saw what your company does,
Speaker 3: and it's plant based skincare and there are some Ecsima
Speaker 3: products there, I thought, oh, you know this I'm really
Speaker 3: interested in because for anyone who's listened to our show
Speaker 3: over the last few years, you might have heard me
Speaker 3: say that in the past, I've had eczema. And so
Speaker 3: when I saw green Goo, I thought, you know what,
Speaker 3: time to do a plant based skincare episode. So thank
Speaker 3: you very much for coming on the show. I have
Speaker 3: to admit I'd never heard of green Goo before, but
Speaker 3: when I was reading on your website, it's in over
Speaker 3: one hundred and twenty thousand stores in the US and
Speaker 3: it even made it into Oscar gift bags. So tell
Speaker 3: me a little bit about green Goo. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So, my mom's sister and I started this, so three
Speaker 1: generations of women. My sister's an herbalis and a midwife,
Speaker 1: and then I was pre med, got my master's in
Speaker 1: health psychology, and we saw this opportunity that the OTC,
Speaker 1: that over the counter space had not been disrupted, and
Speaker 1: here we had the option for organic food, we had
Speaker 1: the option for clean personal care products, but we still
Speaker 1: didn't have clean first aid products. And what was even
Speaker 1: more interesting to me was that the natural consumer was
Speaker 1: willing to abandon their natural ethos, including myself, because we
Speaker 1: were told that these traditional chemical laden products were the
Speaker 1: only products that could get the job done. So you'd
Speaker 1: open up my first aid cabinet and there was all
Speaker 1: this one time used, no sustainability products full of chemicals.
Speaker 1: And then the conventional consumer was also incredibly curious because
Speaker 1: what was available for over the counter for things like
Speaker 1: ezema was not working, along with only used for seven
Speaker 1: to ten days and then you have to discontinue use
Speaker 1: if symptoms persist, and then it's inconvenient to go see
Speaker 1: your doctor and so forth. And so our goal was
Speaker 1: to make plant based first aid that was first superior
Speaker 1: and efficacy, but also sustainable and clean ingredients.
Speaker 3: And to be clear, your products aren't only for first
Speaker 3: aid or for skin issues. It's also for daily care.
Speaker 2: Right, you got it.
Speaker 1: So we started in the first aid space and then
Speaker 1: we expanded into personal care and beauty. And you know,
Speaker 1: although we disrupted the first aid category to say, hey,
Speaker 1: plant based can be better, we're also changing how you
Speaker 1: look at skin care and saying you can give your
Speaker 1: skin nutrition on a regular basis, which will not only
Speaker 1: help hydrate and restore your skin bare, but it makes
Speaker 1: it more resilient to the exposures and the stress that
Speaker 1: we invite to it. And so Green Goose kept sort
Speaker 1: of at that intersection of a hybrid between first aid
Speaker 1: and wellness personal care for your skin.
Speaker 3: And you were mentioning just before we started that your
Speaker 3: product is at John Hopkins.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So John Hopkins has been using and endorsing our product
Speaker 1: for over a decade in their Sclareoderma and Skin condition department.
Speaker 1: And it was actually our customers that were going to
Speaker 1: them and saying, I'm getting these results. So they called
Speaker 1: us and they were like, who is Greenew And so
Speaker 1: we started supplying them with product, and truly Ezhema Solution,
Speaker 1: our dry skin formula is what put us on the
Speaker 1: map because we were making these ingredients in our kitchen
Speaker 1: taking them through an old, ancient process of how you
Speaker 1: extract from plants, and we needed to scale in order
Speaker 1: to be able to meet the demand of all of
Speaker 1: these stores and so forth. And it was actually an
Speaker 1: individual whose son had eczema. He used our product, and
Speaker 1: he happened to run a manufacturing facility and said, hey,
Speaker 1: this is the only product that has ever worked for
Speaker 1: my son, and now the world needs these products, so
Speaker 1: we are going to find a way to manufacture this.
Speaker 1: And so to this day we still make most of
Speaker 1: the ingredients ourselves. So the plants come to our manufacturing facility,
Speaker 1: we take it through this extraction process that protects the
Speaker 1: integrity of the plant, yields the highest amount of the
Speaker 1: medicinal properties from the plants, and then those custom oils
Speaker 1: go into the product, so you can't get those custom
Speaker 1: oils anywhere else. And then we have them registered with
Speaker 1: the FDA to give that next step validation, because now
Speaker 1: the FDA is investing in botanical research so that we
Speaker 1: can call out specific herbs for having active and medicinal properties.
Speaker 3: Is it at that stage already where you can make claims?
Speaker 2: We can, yes, Now.
Speaker 3: Can you give us some example.
Speaker 1: So my sister being the Herbliss, you know, as we're
Speaker 1: going through the registration process, would like to say colendula,
Speaker 1: because we know colendulas an anti fungal, anti yeese, antimicrobial.
Speaker 1: It really it repairs the skin, and the FDA recognizes
Speaker 1: it as an astringent, so we have to on our
Speaker 1: labels recognize and call it out as the FDA does.
Speaker 1: So my sister, being the Herbliss, is like, well, marshmallow
Speaker 1: root is not an active ingredient yet with the FDA,
Speaker 1: so we have to put something like marshmallow root as
Speaker 1: an inactive ingredient.
Speaker 2: So they are still early in there.
Speaker 1: I call it, you know, building the data book, but
Speaker 1: they're doing it, which is fantastic.
Speaker 3: To expand upon that for those who are into the
Speaker 3: science of all of this and FDA regulations. You did
Speaker 3: send me this dry skin product for XMAT and on
Speaker 3: the back it has here active ingredients and inactive ingredients.
Speaker 3: So is this correct If it's FDA approved that it
Speaker 3: would come under the active ingredient headline.
Speaker 1: So anything that's FDA registered, they very specifically. We can
Speaker 1: only call out the herbs that they recognize as active
Speaker 1: ingredients and how they speak to those herbs so for example,
Speaker 1: the dry skin formula you have there will have should
Speaker 1: have like the red clover flour, the CANAML. We can
Speaker 1: only recognize those as the active ingredients because the FDA
Speaker 1: recognizes them. Then you'll see a number of inactive ingredients
Speaker 1: and then we won't call out what they do. And
Speaker 1: so although our inactive ingredients are very functional and operational
Speaker 1: in the formula, we're not able to make claims against
Speaker 1: those inactive ingredients. Now, what you also find is in
Speaker 1: the OTC market is oftentimes they don't even list out
Speaker 1: the inactive ingredients. There's a number of ingredients that if
Speaker 1: it's at a small enough point, you don't need to
Speaker 1: disclose it. And sometimes those are some of the ingredients
Speaker 1: that could be the more challenging ones, whether they're endocrine
Speaker 1: disruptors or if you're prone to allergies and sensitivities, and.
Speaker 3: I guess on that topic. Your products are made of
Speaker 3: herbs and plants. It's natural, no balades, no chemicals, but
Speaker 3: natural isn't always one hundred percent good for people. Could
Speaker 3: there be any contra indications or if they have allergies?
Speaker 3: Are you aware of any people that have sensitivity issues
Speaker 3: or contraindications with your products.
Speaker 1: So we always recommend doing a patch test if you're
Speaker 1: someone who has allergies or you've seen you know, you've
Speaker 1: had some sensitivities. Now, these herbs are all topical and
Speaker 1: infused in a way that you typically just do not
Speaker 1: get those allergic reactions the same way you would with
Speaker 1: some of these other harsh chemicals. But what's interesting too,
Speaker 1: like beeswax, there is a small population of people out
Speaker 1: there that have a sensitivity to beeswax, you know, So
Speaker 1: there are people who have allergies to even a natural ingredient,
Speaker 1: and chondraindications are fairly small. You know. You may be like, oh, okay,
Speaker 1: this is not giving me, it's taking the itch out,
Speaker 1: but I'm getting some red bumps.
Speaker 2: That's when you want to discontinue use.
Speaker 1: Most people who know that they're allergic, for example, to beeswax,
Speaker 1: which is probably the most common allergy that you would
Speaker 1: have in a natural lineup, they've already encountered this, you know,
Speaker 1: because it's in most of the lip bombs and different
Speaker 1: kinds of natural products that are available on the market.
Speaker 2: And it's a small group.
Speaker 3: And for our audience, I mean, we have a plant
Speaker 3: for audience. They're not necessarily vegan. But if you're using beeswax,
Speaker 3: does that mean someone who's vegan may not use these products?
Speaker 1: A true vegan typically does not use beeswax. Now, we
Speaker 1: did entertain we had a vegan line for a while
Speaker 1: where we were using beeswax alternatives. And you know, beeswax
Speaker 1: has this beautiful medicinal profile that works so nicely with
Speaker 1: the entourage effect of all of the plants and as
Speaker 1: a carrier, and so we found that it made better
Speaker 1: sense for us to keep the bees wax in and
Speaker 1: not lose that medicinal component. So we do also have
Speaker 1: oils where we infuse the oils with the same plants.
Speaker 1: So for example, like the exzema oil that you have,
Speaker 1: that was an example for someone who you know, may
Speaker 1: not want to use the dry skin formula for their ezema,
Speaker 1: but then they can use the vegan alternative, which is
Speaker 1: the ezema oil.
Speaker 3: Let's backtrack to something I opened with that your products
Speaker 3: made it into Oscar gift bags. How did that happen?
Speaker 1: Oh, it's very interesting how people find our product.
Speaker 2: Matter of fact, I was talking to someone on a podcast.
Speaker 1: The other day and he's like, do you have shampoo
Speaker 1: and conditioner. I said, well, actually we did a test
Speaker 1: of shampoo and conditioner, and literally this last weekend, I
Speaker 1: was pulling the very last models of the shampoo and
Speaker 1: conditioner for a celebrity who just absolutely loves this particular
Speaker 1: product and it's not in production right now, and I
Speaker 1: was trying to find what I could find left. And
Speaker 1: so it really was sort of a word of mouth opportunity.
Speaker 1: And what was great is this was really in our
Speaker 1: early days. I mean this was we might have been
Speaker 1: in the market maybe two years, and so it was
Speaker 1: such an amazing experience to have that opportunity, and I
Speaker 1: think it was a great way for US US to
Speaker 1: get our name out. And at that time, there was
Speaker 1: no plant based renaissance that we call today. When I
Speaker 1: went to a major pharmacy retailer and I said I
Speaker 1: have a plant based neosporan alternative, he about fell out
Speaker 1: of his chair. The word plant based wasn't what we
Speaker 1: know it today. And I said, just take it home,
Speaker 1: give it a try, and you'll see what it does.
Speaker 1: And thankfully he became a plan himself and was willing
Speaker 1: to take that test. But fast forward today, I think
Speaker 1: we know what that term means, and we have more
Speaker 1: people looking for those solutions, and especially when you can
Speaker 1: find a clean, natural alternative that will actually work, because
Speaker 1: if you can protect the integrity of your system and
Speaker 1: your body and give it what it needs when you
Speaker 1: do need to have a major medical intervention, you're in
Speaker 1: a healthier state. A physician loves to work on a
Speaker 1: healthy patient, your recovery is going to be that much better.
Speaker 1: So I always tell my customers, especially people who have
Speaker 1: never tried a natural product before, I'm like, you've had
Speaker 1: poison ivy for six months, why don't you try this product?
Speaker 1: It only it'll be gone in two days, And it's
Speaker 1: so great when they come back and they're like, wow,
Speaker 1: I've never tried a natural product.
Speaker 2: What else do you have?
Speaker 3: Well, I've only had these products a few days, so
Speaker 3: I haven't been using them long term. But what I
Speaker 3: can say is that for anyone who's weary of natural
Speaker 3: products because they don't like the smells, let's say these
Speaker 3: products smell good. They're not off putting. So for me,
Speaker 3: that's always a big one. In addition to efficacy, if
Speaker 3: it doesn't smell good, I'm not gonna use it.
Speaker 1: So smell is so important and we don't use any
Speaker 1: synthetic fragrances and what you will smell is the plants.
Speaker 1: And that's why the name green Goo came to be.
Speaker 1: Was we didn't want to use the word ointment in
Speaker 1: the name, and we were like, well, it's green because
Speaker 1: it's real plants. You see that it has that hue
Speaker 1: and it's just kind of and the goo was just
Speaker 1: fun and we said, Okay, we're going to disrupt the
Speaker 1: first aid category, we might as well really disrupt it.
Speaker 3: We're going to be putting a link in our show
Speaker 3: notes that our audience, if they're interested in purchasing, they
Speaker 3: are going to get ten percent off. So thank you
Speaker 3: very much for that. That'll be in the show notes.
Speaker 3: What is your biggest seller?
Speaker 2: Our biggest seller.
Speaker 1: So the product that people know us most for is
Speaker 1: our first aid product. So this particular product was designed
Speaker 1: to be an anti septic alternative, but what we wanted
Speaker 1: to do was bring more value because we also want
Speaker 1: you to clean up your first aid cabinet and oftentimes
Speaker 1: you have a lot of these one time use products.
Speaker 1: So it is literally your first aid kit and one
Speaker 1: little ten So it's for cuts and scrapes, but bug bites,
Speaker 1: be stings, cold stores, poison, ivy, chafing, ingrown toenails, takes
Speaker 1: the scene in the itch out, slows down the bleeding,
Speaker 1: speeds up the healing. That's what people most know us for.
Speaker 1: Our number one selling product though is our skin repair product,
Speaker 1: and that was meant to be an after burn and
Speaker 1: scar you got it and for sun spots, like a
Speaker 1: Maderna alternative. It has evolved though into this multifaceted we'll
Speaker 1: call it the Swiss Army Knife of skincare conditions. So
Speaker 1: it is a wonderful anti aging. I put this on
Speaker 1: my skin every night before I go to bed. The
Speaker 1: Alovera is beautifully hydrating with the blue camaml, the blue yarrow,
Speaker 1: the rose hips, so it really penetrates the various layers
Speaker 1: of the skin while also creating the antioxidant properties. But
Speaker 1: then we're also finding that people are also using this
Speaker 1: with an especially big flare up with your exzema, so
Speaker 1: using the dry skin formula to be able to really
Speaker 1: address the flare up. But the Alovera has such a
Speaker 1: nice cooling and calming effect, especially if you're having a
Speaker 1: flare up and it's like you're getting ready to go
Speaker 1: to bed and you're just having that burning sensation. That
Speaker 1: repair is just a beautiful way to calm that, and
Speaker 1: you can just feel that while the dry skin is
Speaker 1: doing it.
Speaker 2: It's actions.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you know, I don't want this episode
Speaker 3: to be only about exma, but because I have this
Speaker 3: personal experience with it, I will say, you know, when
Speaker 3: you have an ecma flare up, and I don't know
Speaker 3: if this would be the same for psoriasis or other
Speaker 3: skin issues, but when you have when you have a
Speaker 3: flare up, it's itchy, it's hot, it's uncomfortable. And then
Speaker 3: so that's what you're saying, would be good for the
Speaker 3: skin repair solve to use and then afterwards, when it
Speaker 3: calms down, it dries up, and then you can get cracks.
Speaker 3: So would that be the time to use the dry skin?
Speaker 2: You got it affection exactly.
Speaker 1: And you know our products because of the way they
Speaker 1: nourish your skin, the more you use it, the less
Speaker 1: you'll need it. And so what I say with a flareup,
Speaker 1: you start out very aggressively initially, and then eventually you
Speaker 1: want to just continue to use these products more as
Speaker 1: a nutritive skin care wellness activity that then will help
Speaker 1: make your skin more resilient.
Speaker 2: So then you just want to we say, butter up.
Speaker 1: Just go ahead and butter up and put it on
Speaker 1: your body once a week, even when you're not having
Speaker 1: a flare up, and your skin will just drink it
Speaker 1: up and you'll notice that sometimes, like my daughter has
Speaker 1: exzma and we've got it under control pretty great, except
Speaker 1: for chlorine, she gets into a pool and it's like
Speaker 1: all bets are off. So we make sure that in
Speaker 1: the summertime we're being much more aggressive with her, putting
Speaker 1: it on on a regular basis before she goes into
Speaker 1: the pool and just making sure that she's nourishing that
Speaker 1: skin barrier and she doesn't have as bad of a
Speaker 1: flare up.
Speaker 3: Our show we try to address the health aspects of
Speaker 3: plant based eating, and so for me, I believe eating
Speaker 3: less sugar and plant based eating also helps with all
Speaker 3: of this. I think that is how I fixed myself.
Speaker 3: But certainly when there are flare ups, you do need
Speaker 3: some products, and in my opinion, cortisone is not helpful
Speaker 3: at least not on hands. So I'm very excited to
Speaker 3: have products like this, and what you were saying in
Speaker 3: terms of maintenance, just to have less dry skin. That's
Speaker 3: the stage I'm at. So I mentioned I did have
Speaker 3: a flare up, but now I was using I mean again,
Speaker 3: it's only been a few days, but I've started to
Speaker 3: use the dry skin product because I'm at the stage
Speaker 3: where the inflammation is done, the cracks are done, and
Speaker 3: it's just dry. So that's what I'm using now and
Speaker 3: I'm quite enjoying it.
Speaker 2: So thank you.
Speaker 1: Look at the skin is like we always recognize it
Speaker 1: as okay, it's just our largest organ and it's just
Speaker 1: there to protect everything else. And yet our skin is
Speaker 1: so connected to the rest of our systems. There's all
Speaker 1: these neurotransmitters, it is connected to our immune system, it
Speaker 1: is connected to our nervous system, and even our mindset.
Speaker 1: And it's been really interesting to see even the science advance,
Speaker 1: like the Behavior Journal of Behavior Medicine is doing work
Speaker 1: with a Journal of Dermatology because they're connecting the dots
Speaker 1: that mindfulness and different kinds of ways that you can
Speaker 1: engage will truly impact your skin condition. And so that's
Speaker 1: where I look at the skin is this opportunity the
Speaker 1: same way you reduce your sugar and you drink water,
Speaker 1: and it's holistic taking care of your skin in a
Speaker 1: different way where you're feeding at the nutrients and you're
Speaker 1: protecting it and you're hydrating it from the outside with
Speaker 1: the things.
Speaker 2: That serve it.
Speaker 1: You'll actually feel the difference and you'll reduce your inflammation.
Speaker 1: And there'll be people a little tell me, like, hey,
Speaker 1: when I butter up with the green goo, Like take
Speaker 1: a shower, maybe after a workout, put the pain relief
Speaker 1: product from shoulders down, put your bathrobe on, let your
Speaker 1: skin just drink it up. Maybe it's in in the
Speaker 1: evening so you go to bed, or it's you're starting
Speaker 1: your day. You just feel better. And like when your
Speaker 1: skin is not inflamed, you're happier, and your cortisol is down,
Speaker 1: your immune system isn't trying to flare things up, and
Speaker 1: then you have clarity, you know. So it's really interesting
Speaker 1: when you start thinking about your systems and how interconnected
Speaker 1: they are and how you can nourish them in various
Speaker 1: ways to just have optimal wellness.
Speaker 3: One hundred percent. I agree. And you know, we we've
Speaker 3: been hearing for a while about the brain gut access,
Speaker 3: but I've recently heard the gut skin access. So that's
Speaker 3: the prob you know, hopefully there'll be more research into that,
Speaker 3: because that's really what this show has been about. If
Speaker 3: someone wants more information, where is the best place that
Speaker 3: they should.
Speaker 2: Go greendew dot com.
Speaker 1: We're also available on Amazon, but greendew dot com really
Speaker 1: gives you the breadth of products.
Speaker 3: Okay, and as I mentioned earlier, we do have a
Speaker 3: link in our show notes that will take you to
Speaker 3: the website. If you want to purchase products, you will
Speaker 3: receive ten percent off. Okay, Well, thank you. This was
Speaker 3: very interesting and I'm happy I could do a plant
Speaker 3: based skincare episode with you. And are you coming up
Speaker 3: with any new products that we can look forward to?
Speaker 1: Yeah, we've got some fun deodorance that again thinking about
Speaker 1: your skin, Yeah, it's great that your skin under your
Speaker 1: armpit absorbed seventy percent of what you put in it.
Speaker 1: So thinking about what to avoid is just as important
Speaker 1: as maybe what you can put in there. So we're
Speaker 1: really trying to advance the technology on the deodorant to
Speaker 1: be a more nutritive resource, not just something that says, hey,
Speaker 1: you know, it's an aluminum free deodorant.
Speaker 2: So things like ko.
Speaker 1: Babola Asha Waganda, Holy Basil, functional mushrooms vitamin C, because
Speaker 1: why not if it's if it's going to absorb seventy percent,
Speaker 1: you might as well feed it the good stuff.
Speaker 3: Wow, that's so. Is that out yet?
Speaker 2: We have one available right now?
Speaker 3: Okay, and you ship where.
Speaker 1: All over the US and including Hawaii and Alaska and
Speaker 1: Canada as well.
Speaker 3: Okay, but not internationally yet. Not internationally yet, okay, okay.
Speaker 3: We've got listeners everywhere, so I've always asked the question
Speaker 3: on that.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'll say, email me directly and we might
Speaker 1: be able to make some magic happen.
Speaker 3: All right, wonderful, Well again, thank you so much. It
Speaker 3: was a pleasure and continued success.
Speaker 2: Thank you. It's wonderful to be here with you.
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