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<v Speaker 1>this morning on Mother's Day, a colorful day usually, and

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<v Speaker 1>we are talking color theory today because color baffles so

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<v Speaker 1>many people when it comes to the practical outworking of color.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to return to that discussion. But it is

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<v Speaker 1>the top of the hour of our second hour, and

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<v Speaker 1>so as is our tradition, it is time to go

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<v Speaker 1>to the phones. And I want to talk to Rick. Hey, Rick,

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<v Speaker 1>welcome home.

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<v Speaker 3>Hello, Hello Katie, can you hear me?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes? I can? How can I help you? My friend?

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<v Speaker 3>So, I have a rental and I'm going to determine

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to paint in all light and the inside

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<v Speaker 3>because uh, it was some colors are picked up by

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<v Speaker 3>a designer in the past, when do you decide if

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<v Speaker 3>you need to use a primer or not for the

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<v Speaker 3>inside obviously for the outside of the house, you did,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I understand I have to use a primer,

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<v Speaker 3>but the inside is it is it important to do that?

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<v Speaker 1>Well? You know, it depends if the if the paint

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<v Speaker 1>that's on the wall is in good shape, okay, uh

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, and it doesn't have too heavy of achine

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<v Speaker 1>on it, if it's flat paint or a matte kind

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<v Speaker 1>of paint, then you can get away with what they call,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, paint and primer in one, right, those kinds

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<v Speaker 1>of combos. Just about every major manufacturer makes a version

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<v Speaker 1>of their paint, which is paint slash primer in one

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<v Speaker 1>and you can get decent cover and as long as though,

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<v Speaker 1>as long as the wall colors aren't too intense. Elma

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<v Speaker 1>and I were talking before the show about he's got

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<v Speaker 1>black walls in some of his place and like when

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<v Speaker 1>he moves out, he wanted to know, like, no, what

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<v Speaker 1>do I need to do? Am I gonna be able

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<v Speaker 1>to cover up those black walls? And I told him

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<v Speaker 1>black not without a primer first, primer code first, and

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<v Speaker 1>then another coat of white on top of that and

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<v Speaker 1>you should be good to go. But if they're just

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<v Speaker 1>you know, pastel's or you know, nothing too serious, and

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<v Speaker 1>the paint is in decent shape, then you could go

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<v Speaker 1>on top of the existing paint. Now, if you're going

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<v Speaker 1>Bear primer is for when there is nothing on the wall,

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<v Speaker 1>and you never use a paint primer combo with Bear drywall, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>because it is not designed to go on without any

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<v Speaker 1>primer code it all. Even though it makes that claim,

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<v Speaker 1>A paint primer combo is basically just there so that

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<v Speaker 1>you can put a coat on an existing layer of

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<v Speaker 1>decently applied paint and change the color or neutralize it

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever. Does that make sense?

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<v Speaker 3>That makes sense?

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<v Speaker 1>All right?

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<v Speaker 3>Can how manything else usually recommend? Do you recommend using

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<v Speaker 3>two coats or it just depends on if you're going

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<v Speaker 3>from you know, a dark color to light color?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, you know, I mean, if you're going

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<v Speaker 1>from a heavy dark colored to two coats, definitely, I

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<v Speaker 1>always recommend two coats because it's just nice. But if

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<v Speaker 1>you can get it done with one, if you're if

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<v Speaker 1>you're changing like, for instance, a light tan wall, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean just really light like sandy beige, wall to white.

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<v Speaker 1>Then one coat of a good quality of paint on

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<v Speaker 1>top of that should get the job done. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you'll know, you'll know, that's the point. You'll know. You'll

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<v Speaker 1>know after you put that first coat on, you let

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<v Speaker 1>it dry, and you walk in, you're like, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>it looks fine. And if it looks fine, it is fine.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the point, right, That's kind of where we were

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<v Speaker 1>talking about already. Color. It's in our heads. And if

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<v Speaker 1>your eyeball is interpreting the color in the room after

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<v Speaker 1>you put a single coat of white on top of

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<v Speaker 1>a lighter color that, yeah, this room is white now,

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<v Speaker 1>then you know what You're good to go.

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<v Speaker 4>Perfect.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I have one more quick question. Do we have

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<v Speaker 3>time or can I should I call that?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, now let's do it. Let's do it, let's go.

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<v Speaker 3>I have on the outside of the house, I have

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<v Speaker 3>a cement and board and it's a white house, pretty

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<v Speaker 3>bright white. And I've noticed we bought the house a

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<v Speaker 3>few years ago, that there's starting to be little cracks

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<v Speaker 3>in the cement board I think it's called cement board.

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<v Speaker 3>And we had the painter come out and try to

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<v Speaker 3>fill in the cracks and they seem to be coming back.

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<v Speaker 3>Is there any sort of filler that sort of stretches

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<v Speaker 3>that you'd recommend for that? And again it's it's like

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<v Speaker 3>a white surface.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so is it smooth cement board on the outside

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<v Speaker 1>of the house, large sheets? Are we talking about cementious sighting?

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<v Speaker 3>Large sheets? Yeah, the cement sides, board siding. It's like

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<v Speaker 3>the hardy board or I don't know what you'd call them.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, best thing you can do for

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<v Speaker 1>uh now, No, they filled it and it looked good

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<v Speaker 1>and then it cracked again.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, in about six months. We live a couple of

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<v Speaker 3>miles from the beach, so it's not too you know,

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<v Speaker 3>it doesn't get too hot here, so we don't live

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<v Speaker 3>off the beach a couple of miles.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, these are like spidery cracks, very thin cracks.

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<v Speaker 3>They start like that, they get a little bit wider,

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<v Speaker 3>definitely wider than spidery Okay, all right, well, probably the

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<v Speaker 3>thing that stretches or something.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean the mistake is that that

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<v Speaker 1>and this has always been a tough thing because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you approach a crack in a wall for paint purposes,

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<v Speaker 1>either from a spacklepective perspective right, spackling in the crack

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<v Speaker 1>or from a culking perspective, and there's a there's a

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<v Speaker 1>short side to both of them. Spackle is a nice

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<v Speaker 1>solid filler and you can smooth it out and then

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't recede back when it dries, and so it

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<v Speaker 1>gives you that smooth, continuous, can't see the crack anymore

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<v Speaker 1>kind of scenario. But it is brittle, and so if

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<v Speaker 1>the crack shifts a little bit more, then the crack returns, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Calking is the opposite. Caulking is stretchy, okay, But when

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<v Speaker 1>calking dries, it actually recedes a little bit, and so

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<v Speaker 1>it has a tendency to show where it was. You're

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<v Speaker 1>like jeanez, I thought I filled that thing, and now

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<v Speaker 1>I can still see where the crack was. But as

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<v Speaker 1>it stretches, it actually bridges the gap, and the crack

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<v Speaker 1>itself doesn't tend to come back, but you can see

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<v Speaker 1>the indentation. Fortunately. Now there are some bridging products, and

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<v Speaker 1>you've got to find this at a good paint store,

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<v Speaker 1>but there are some bridging products that are kind of

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<v Speaker 1>spackley with elast americ compounds in them. That'll get both

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<v Speaker 1>jobs done. They're not super you can find them at

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<v Speaker 1>better dedicated paint stores, not so much out on the

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<v Speaker 1>on the shelf at the big box store, but they exist.

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<v Speaker 3>What is it called a It's like a lastomeric bridging.

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<v Speaker 3>Is that exactly what I have them to look for?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's that's what you want to ask for. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there are different brands you want to ask them. You

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<v Speaker 1>get explained. I got cement board. I got it. I

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<v Speaker 1>needed to be filled, but I also needed to stretch

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<v Speaker 1>when I'm done, and uh, and they'll get you in

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<v Speaker 1>the right direction. And then you may want to paint

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<v Speaker 1>with an elastomeric based paint on top of that, so

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<v Speaker 1>the paint itself has a stretching crack bridging to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>capacity if the crack wants to return. So there's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a you know, a double layer of protection that

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<v Speaker 1>you could approach that with as you go. Rick, Thanks

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<v Speaker 1>for the questions, Bud, and for the call. I hope

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<v Speaker 1>that helps uh and get you going in the right direction.

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<v Speaker 1>When we returned, we will go back to the phones.

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<v Speaker 5>You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on demand from

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking color today and color theory and how you

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<v Speaker 1>get your arms around it and the practical wrestling of

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<v Speaker 1>color in your home so you get the colors that

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<v Speaker 1>you actually want. Well, we're going to return to that

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<v Speaker 1>conversation in just a bit, but it's second hour, which

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<v Speaker 1>means we're taking calls, and I want to go back

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<v Speaker 1>to the phones. I want to talk to Steve. Hey, Steve,

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<v Speaker 1>welcome home, Hello young man.

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<v Speaker 4>Hello Mike. Yes, how you doing. I'm doing a great job.

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<v Speaker 4>You're doing a great job, and I would like to

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<v Speaker 4>ask you a question about possibly a plumber could help me.

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<v Speaker 4>But we had our bathroom redone, and then ever since then,

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<v Speaker 4>when we would turn the faucet on in the kitchen

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<v Speaker 4>and turn off quick, it makes a pounding noise like

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<v Speaker 4>pressure or something. So I don't know if we have

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<v Speaker 4>to dig into the wall again. We did tile everything

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<v Speaker 4>in there. We did the trick with the water heater,

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<v Speaker 4>but that didn't fix it. So what do you think?

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Well, you are you have become a victim

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<v Speaker 1>of the water hammer effect. That's what you're water hammer

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<v Speaker 1>is common. It's not your plumber's fault. Nobody did anything wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>It is Yeah, No, what it is. You know, water

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<v Speaker 1>rushes through pipes, it turns corners, and as it turns corners,

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<v Speaker 1>it causes what's like in the world of ships and

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<v Speaker 1>submarines and stuff, is called cavitation. Right as what you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't turn a corner as smoothly as we think

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<v Speaker 1>it does. Some of that energy gets kind of bundled

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<v Speaker 1>up and it creates different kind of pressures that happen

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<v Speaker 1>as a result. So you never know. I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just virtually impossible to know. We've plumbed entire you know,

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen thousand and square foot homes with seemingly miles and

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<v Speaker 1>miles of hot and cold water lines and never had

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<v Speaker 1>a single water hammer issue with any faucet, and then

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<v Speaker 1>we've turn around and done very similar house and it's

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<v Speaker 1>hammer Arrestor, And what it literally is is it's kind

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<v Speaker 1>Oh there you go, my friend. That's uh, that's that's

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<v Speaker 1>the solve. And so it's it's good news. It's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not great news, but it's a shout out.

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<v Speaker 4>And they give a shout out to uh, my favorite

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<v Speaker 4>restaurant and Moro Bay.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh sure, why not.

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<v Speaker 4>You've probably been there, but it's carlss for breakfast. Oh

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<v Speaker 4>my gosh, Oh yeah, you know what I'm talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, are you up in Moro Bed?

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<v Speaker 4>No, I avoid that like the plague today because the

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<v Speaker 4>Mother's Day. But I'm sure they're very busy. And but

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<v Speaker 4>it's just a shout out because they might even be listening.

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<v Speaker 4>You never know. But that is the place to go

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<v Speaker 4>if you're in Moro Bay.

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<v Speaker 1>Carlis Maro Bay is the place to go. We were

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<v Speaker 4>It is.

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<v Speaker 1>It is delicious. It is a delicious place.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I've got good memories of my parents going there.

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<v Speaker 4>I've got good memories from my honeymoon and many many

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<v Speaker 4>meals there, and this sunsets and just beautiful. So all right,

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<v Speaker 4>thank you, mister Dean. You're doing a great job, and

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<v Speaker 4>keep up the good work.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, sir, Thanks Steve, thanks for the question, Thanks

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<v Speaker 1>for the vote of confidence. Always love it when when

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<v Speaker 1>people are appreciated. Not everybody is always appreciative, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>so that's just the nature of things. Let me tell

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<v Speaker 1>you about an email that we got yesterday. On that note, Tina,

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<v Speaker 1>you want to wait here, turn your mica, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>the one who reads those, Yes you are. We can't

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<v Speaker 1>actually use the like I'll even tell you what it said.

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<v Speaker 1>But the worst it was quite irate about because I

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<v Speaker 1>had mentioned, Yeah, somebody called yesterday and wanted to know,

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<v Speaker 1>is there a way to keep rattlesnakes out of our

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<v Speaker 1>three acre property? And I described snake fencing, and I

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<v Speaker 1>described some snake repellent that is actually very effective, non toxic,

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<v Speaker 1>not going to kill any snakes. But I did mention

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<v Speaker 1>that I was familiar with the problem because as a

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<v Speaker 1>youth living in a big open space, we often had

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<v Speaker 1>rattlesnakes come in way too close to the house. And

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<v Speaker 1>at the time, my father had given me instructions that

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if you go outside, you're in charge of this, dean,

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<v Speaker 1>because your mother is not physically able to do this

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<v Speaker 1>because she was sickly. But my father would say, you're

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<v Speaker 1>in charge of this, and so you go outside if

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<v Speaker 1>there's a rattlesnake that has curled up in near the house,

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<v Speaker 1>on the patio or on the cool concrete, to dispatch

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<v Speaker 1>that snake. And I had mentioned to the caller that

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<v Speaker 1>I by the time I had reached young adulthood, I

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<v Speaker 1>had a large peanut butter jar, empty peanut butter jar

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<v Speaker 1>full of rattlesnake rattles from the rattlesnakes that I had

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<v Speaker 1>had to dispatch to. You know, I thought, keep my

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<v Speaker 1>just lived in a big open area without fencing, and

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<v Speaker 1>so it was difficult to avoid. That's all I said.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's one thing, that's all I said. To not

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<v Speaker 1>agree with you, that's the kind I don't like killing animals.

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<v Speaker 1>But basically we just as a grown We got an

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<v Speaker 1>in hell for killing wildlife. And so you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate when guys like Steve call up and say that

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<v Speaker 1>we're doing a good So that's just that's all. I

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<v Speaker 1>have nothing against rattlesnakes, by the way, except when they

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<v Speaker 1>try to bite me. Other than that, no problem whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 1>I love animals. Olivia is here. She will tell you

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<v Speaker 1>Papa loves animals. Okay, there you go, tell him, tell

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<v Speaker 1>them Olivia, he loves animals. And also my dog is

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<v Speaker 1>right here. Not okay, so there you go. See all right,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, sit down, you be quiet. Now, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get you your own show when we return more of

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<v Speaker 1>your calls. I just wanted to share that with you.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not a big deal. I'm just saying, hopefully I

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<v Speaker 1>don't burn in hill because of my rattlesnake jar uh.

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<v Speaker 1>When we return more of your calls. Your Home with

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<v Speaker 1>Dean Sharp the House Whisper.

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<v Speaker 5>You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on demand from

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<v Speaker 5>KFI Am sixty.

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<v Speaker 1>You are Home with Dean Sharp, the house Whisper, here

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<v Speaker 1>to take your ordinary house and help you make it

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<v Speaker 1>an extraordinary home, like we do every weekend live Saturday mornings,

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<v Speaker 1>six to eight Pacific time, Sunday mornings, nine to noon

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<v Speaker 1>Pacific time. We're talking color and color theory, and we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be just about we're just about ready to move

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<v Speaker 1>into the practical ads on how do you get your

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<v Speaker 1>arms around color problems. But we're still right here middle

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<v Speaker 1>hour taking some calls and honoring you and everything that's

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<v Speaker 1>going on with your home today. So I want to

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<v Speaker 1>go back to the phones and I want to talk

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<v Speaker 1>to Joe. Hey, Joe, welcome home.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, good morning, Dean. First, I'll say thank goodness. We're

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<v Speaker 3>past the color stage of our renovation project.

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<v Speaker 1>Really, we have rested with that as well.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, we certainly did. We finally hired a designer to

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<v Speaker 3>help us with it, and it came out just fine.

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<v Speaker 2>We are.

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<v Speaker 3>We have a stove that's on a stovetop that's on

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<v Speaker 3>an island, and we've lived there for twenty years without

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<v Speaker 3>a hood. But we're moving out and converting it to

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<v Speaker 3>a rental unit now, so we need to put in

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<v Speaker 3>a stovehood. I understand many of the ones I've looked

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<v Speaker 3>at say that they're can vertible, and I'm understanding that

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<v Speaker 3>to mean that either you can put a duct from

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<v Speaker 3>alternatively by two carbon filters for twenty five bucks apiece

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<v Speaker 3>and not have to duct it. And I'm wondering, am

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<v Speaker 3>I understanding that correctly or not? And what is your

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<v Speaker 3>recommendation concerning this?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, really, really good question. It's a confusing whirl of

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<v Speaker 1>vent hoods. By the way, let me ask you first

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<v Speaker 1>and foremost, the stovetop itself, the stove gas electric. What

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<v Speaker 3>Thirty six inch gas?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So let me explain this real quickly, just because

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<v Speaker 1>people are confused by it, and rightly so, because it

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<v Speaker 1>is a confusing area of the code. Okay, technically speaking,

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<v Speaker 1>the Internet Building Code has no concern whatsoever how much

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<v Speaker 1>your kitchen great or your home. Okay, the technically technically,

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<v Speaker 1>if you have an electric cook top, then there is

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<v Speaker 1>no code requirement for a hood at all, because the

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<v Speaker 1>hood idea was was added to the code as a

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<v Speaker 1>way of exhausting uncombusted gas fumes out of the house

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<v Speaker 1>as a safety issue, uncombusted fumes and particulates from a

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<v Speaker 1>gas burner, because no gas burner combusts all the gas

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<v Speaker 1>that is coming out of the burner, there's always some

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<v Speaker 1>you know, leftover, So that would that would lead us

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<v Speaker 1>to the conclusion then that Okay, if that's the case,

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<v Speaker 1>then why is isn't it also a code requirement that

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<v Speaker 1>every time I turn on my gas burner, the hood

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<v Speaker 1>vent has to turn on automatically to evacuate those gas particulars.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's not a part of the code. You can

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<v Speaker 1>for your entire life, and uh, it's perfectly okay with

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<v Speaker 1>the code. It's a gigantic, gaping hole in the way

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<v Speaker 1>that the building code handles, you know, this particular issue.

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<v Speaker 1>So I just want to explain that to everybody. If

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<v Speaker 1>you have an electric cook top, an induction cooktop, or

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<v Speaker 1>an electric cook top stand, you know, a conventional electric

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<v Speaker 1>cook top, technically you don't need a vent hood. If

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<v Speaker 1>you have a gas burner, technically you do need one,

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<v Speaker 1>and you never have to use it. Most people, though,

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<v Speaker 1>are most concerned about, all right, well, when I when

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<v Speaker 1>I you know, see a steak, or if I accidentally

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<v Speaker 1>burn something, or if I'm cooking fish or something like that,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to get rid of the odors, and I

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<v Speaker 1>want to get rid of the excess smoke and or

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<v Speaker 1>steam or whatever is coming off the cook top. That

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<v Speaker 1>is what most people are thinking about when they think

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<v Speaker 1>about vent hoods, and there are two ways to go

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<v Speaker 1>about it. You conduct it, meaning that the hood leads in,

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<v Speaker 1>brings all that to smoke in and directs it with

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<v Speaker 1>a fan through a ducting system and blows it to

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<v Speaker 1>the outside of the house. It doesn't have to go

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<v Speaker 1>straight up. It can go sideways once it's in the attic.

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<v Speaker 1>It can go through ceiling joists or floor joists or

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<v Speaker 1>whatever the case may be, as long as it gets

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<v Speaker 1>to the outside of the house and the fan is

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<v Speaker 1>powerful enough to push it along and there you go.

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<v Speaker 1>The other option is often found in apartments and things

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<v Speaker 1>like that, are hoods that can also utilize a two

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<v Speaker 1>stage charcoal filter and draw the air up through the

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<v Speaker 1>charcoal filter. The charcoal filter, in theory, catches most of

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<v Speaker 1>the particles from the smoke and are a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>the odors from the cooking, and then that air is

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<v Speaker 1>blown back into the kitchen space, which again is ironic

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<v Speaker 1>when you think about the fact that if that hood

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<v Speaker 1>is venting a gas you know cook top, then that

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<v Speaker 1>gas those the charcoal filter does not capture the gas

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<v Speaker 1>let off, and it blows it back into the kitchen space,

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<v Speaker 1>the same space that it started in. And yet the

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<v Speaker 1>code allows that to So just a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>confusing part for the code, but yes, you are correct.

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<v Speaker 1>Either ducked less, which is running through standard charcoal filters,

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<v Speaker 1>or duck did out of the house, which is better. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>ducked it out of the house is always going to

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<v Speaker 1>be better. I mean you don't find many ducked less

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<v Speaker 1>hoods in you know, professional kitchens, in executive kitchens, or

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<v Speaker 1>in restaurants. In fact, they're not allowed in an executive

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<v Speaker 1>kitchen to recirculate the air back into the kitchen environment.

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<v Speaker 1>They have to take it out and has to be

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<v Speaker 1>blown outside. So yeah, that's better, But both are allowed.

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<v Speaker 3>And then did you say it could be inducted into

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<v Speaker 3>the I mean not ducted, but into the attic and

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<v Speaker 3>out the vents or up through the roof.

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<v Speaker 1>Either it can be taken out through the roof. It

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<v Speaker 1>can be taken out through the side gable of a

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<v Speaker 1>roofing system. We can't just run it up to we

430
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<v Speaker 1>can't just run an open ducked up to an outside

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<v Speaker 1>vent and just sort of allow it to sort of

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<v Speaker 1>push its way out there. It needs a positive connection

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<v Speaker 1>to the outside of the house, but it doesn't have

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<v Speaker 1>to go through the roof. It could go through it

435
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<v Speaker 1>could run horizontally and go through a vent attachment on

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<v Speaker 1>the outside of a house or on the outside of

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<v Speaker 1>a gable.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, I see what you're saying. Okay, Well, that answers

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<v Speaker 3>my questions. I certainly appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 1>And Joe, if you want to take a look just

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<v Speaker 1>for fun, if you want to take a look at

442
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<v Speaker 1>literally what the cutting a edge of duct less hoods are,

443
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<v Speaker 1>then go to Plasma Plasma, Maade, dot Com Plasma. I'm sorry,

444
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<v Speaker 1>Plasma made USA, dot com Plasma. They're the company Tina

445
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<v Speaker 1>and I saw at the last builder show. They have

446
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<v Speaker 1>They have created a series of electronically high voltagely charged

447
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<v Speaker 1>filters that create a plasma field that literally does eliminate

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<v Speaker 1>all smoke, odor, and micron particulates out of the air

449
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<v Speaker 1>and then restores clean air into the room without using

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<v Speaker 1>a duck. Now, the filters themselves cost I don't know,

451
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<v Speaker 1>eleven twelve hundred dollars, but their filters are designed this

452
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<v Speaker 1>is the cool thing to be used with any vent

453
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<v Speaker 1>hood so they don't make vent hoods. They simply make

454
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<v Speaker 1>this filter which installs in what looks like a duck

455
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<v Speaker 1>leaving the room, but could literally just be a pipe

456
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<v Speaker 1>or a flu that goes up to the ceiling and

457
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<v Speaker 1>goes no further. It's pretty impressive, so you guys should

458
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<v Speaker 1>you should check that out as well. It's plasmamade usa

459
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<v Speaker 1>dot com if you want to see what is currently

460
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<v Speaker 1>the cutting edge of efficient recirculated nonducted vent hoods. Pretty

461
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<v Speaker 1>impressive stuff, but yeah, it either has to go out

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<v Speaker 1>or recirculate through some kind of filter.

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<v Speaker 5>You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on demand from

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<v Speaker 5>KFI AM six forty.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, if if you enjoyed Tim as much

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<v Speaker 1>as I do, just know that on Thursday evenings, every

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<v Speaker 1>Thursday evening just about just about unless for some reason

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<v Speaker 1>I can't get there, But every Thursday evening I hang

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<v Speaker 1>out with him from about six twenty till about six fifty.

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<v Speaker 1>We come on and we just talk about all things home.

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<v Speaker 1>I give him notes ahead time about what we're talking about,

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<v Speaker 1>and then we flip a coin as to whether we

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<v Speaker 1>actually get to that topic or not, or we just

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<v Speaker 1>wander off and talk about something else. But it's always great.

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<v Speaker 1>It's always great. We always have a great time every

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<v Speaker 1>Thursday evening. Tim Conway Junior and the House Whisper at

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<v Speaker 1>six point twenty right here on Kofi. All right, y'all,

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking color today. We're about to return to that subject,

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<v Speaker 1>but I want to finish up calls for the day,

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<v Speaker 1>which means I want to talk to Rick. Hey, Rick,

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<v Speaker 1>welcome home.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, Good morning, Dean. My question is in regards to

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<v Speaker 2>the exterior window trims and doors and the big garage door. Recently,

485
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<v Speaker 2>my wife wanted to redo the wood trims because they

486
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<v Speaker 2>got damage and rotted and all that good stuff. So

487
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<v Speaker 2>she went ahead, and she was thinking out of the box,

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<v Speaker 2>and she decided to do the the bender board that

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<v Speaker 2>you find in the garden areas of the big box stores,

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<v Speaker 2>and that trimmed out and mounted around the windows and

491
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<v Speaker 2>doors and such. And it looks great, and it looks

492
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<v Speaker 2>like it's going to hold up a lot longer than

493
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<v Speaker 2>the wood. However, the issue that I'm having is I

494
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<v Speaker 2>put some of that Zenzer primer on there and then

495
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<v Speaker 2>put some paint. I started with several windows, and once

496
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<v Speaker 2>it cured in all this just bumping into it or

497
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<v Speaker 2>if you just like scratch it with your nail or whatnot,

498
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<v Speaker 2>it's literally just like flaking off, and it's showing the

499
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<v Speaker 2>brown bender board, so obviously it's not adhering to it.

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<v Speaker 2>And also the primer wasn't thick enough apparently to cover

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<v Speaker 2>up the small little screw holes which they use to

502
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<v Speaker 2>mount up. And there's little like beings and scratches and

503
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<v Speaker 2>stuff like that, little imperfections on that plast bender board.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was wondering what you suggest that would adhere

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<v Speaker 2>to that bender board so that way when the paint

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<v Speaker 2>goes on, it sticks and it holds up. Because I

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<v Speaker 2>got about thirty to forty windows and doors to do

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<v Speaker 2>on the exterior, and I would really like for it

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<v Speaker 2>to last.

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<v Speaker 1>I got you, I got you, all right, Well, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to give you some advice. It's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be qualified advice. Qualified because and here's the thing. When

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<v Speaker 1>we say plastic composite, plastic composite sounds like a very

514
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<v Speaker 1>technical term, and it is, but in reality, it's a

515
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<v Speaker 1>generalist term that means I don't know whatever that stuff's

516
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<v Speaker 1>made out of. So yeah, since I don't know what

517
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<v Speaker 1>that stuff is made out of, I really don't. I honestly,

518
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<v Speaker 1>you know, if someone is with to call in with

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<v Speaker 1>a gardening question and say, you know that brown bender

520
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<v Speaker 1>board that we put around our you know what is

521
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<v Speaker 1>that stuff made out? I don't know, recycled trash bags,

522
00:30:12.200 --> 00:30:15.359
<v Speaker 1>coke bottles. I'm not sure. I actually don't know what

523
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<v Speaker 1>that stuff is made out of. And it makes a

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<v Speaker 1>difference ultimately because plastic is a super super scientifically generalist term.

525
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<v Speaker 1>In fact, sometimes plastic doesn't even mean a chemical compound plastic.

526
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<v Speaker 1>It just means that something's bendable or that's moldable. Right,

527
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<v Speaker 1>we talk about the plasticity of the human brain. Our

528
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<v Speaker 1>brains aren't made out of plastic, but they are bendable.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm not sure, Rick, but I will tell you this.

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<v Speaker 1>Typically plastic composite window trims that we work with in

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<v Speaker 1>for industry windows stuff, it is always one hundred percent

532
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<v Speaker 1>acrylic latex exterior paint. Hundred percent acrylic latex exterior paint,

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<v Speaker 1>and not a generalist primer, okay, but a specific primer.

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<v Speaker 1>So the idea is to work backwards. The idea is

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<v Speaker 1>to find a high quality like Benjamin Moore exterior acrylic

536
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<v Speaker 1>latex paint, and then walk backwards and say, all right,

537
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<v Speaker 1>this is the paint we're going to try, which is

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<v Speaker 1>the primer that is specifically designed to grab onto this

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<v Speaker 1>paint and the surface beneath it, and then you work

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<v Speaker 1>from there. I never find, actually, and this may encourage you,

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<v Speaker 1>I've never found that just the generalists like Kills or

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<v Speaker 1>the Zins primers do a great job on plastic based

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<v Speaker 1>materials outside. So what I want is I want to

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<v Speaker 1>go straight to the paint company, deal with them, and

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<v Speaker 1>they do nowadays make some extraordinary stuff. In fact, I

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<v Speaker 1>would probably lean towards either Sherwin Williams are Benjamin Moore

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<v Speaker 1>as far as their vinyl specialty paints. They both make

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<v Speaker 1>a vinyl safe specialty paint. And this is another thing

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't ask you how dark these trims are, whether

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<v Speaker 1>they're white or whether they're a different color. But for

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<v Speaker 1>anybody who's thinking about painting plastic composite trims on the

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<v Speaker 1>outside of their house, or painting their vinyl windows or

553
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<v Speaker 1>the edges of their vinyl windows with a dark color,

554
00:32:25.319 --> 00:32:30.279
<v Speaker 1>you gotta be really careful about that because dark colors absorb.

555
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<v Speaker 1>Now we've gone back to color. Dark colors absorb light

556
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<v Speaker 1>and therefore they absorb heat. You know, It's like most

557
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<v Speaker 1>of us don't wear black t shirts out on one

558
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<v Speaker 1>hundred degree day because it absorbs so much light and heat,

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<v Speaker 1>and then it can actually weaken and soften the vinyl

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<v Speaker 1>or the plastic of the trim. So there are companies

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<v Speaker 1>like Sherwyn Williams and Benjamin Moore. I love Benjamin Moore's product.

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<v Speaker 1>It does amazing stuff. It is a special for vinyl

563
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<v Speaker 1>that actually has built into it solar reflective coating properties

564
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<v Speaker 1>that reflect out a lot of that stuff and keep

565
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<v Speaker 1>the vinyl or the plastic from warping or buckling. So

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<v Speaker 1>the best, and it's fully qualified because I do not

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<v Speaker 1>know what that stuff is actually made out of, and

568
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<v Speaker 1>in the end it's science as to what binds to what.

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<v Speaker 1>But I would recommend that you go with a high

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<v Speaker 1>quality paint like Benjamin Moore, go with their Vinyl series

571
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<v Speaker 1>exterior stuff, and then go with the primer that Benjamin

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<v Speaker 1>Moore mates to that paint to put it onto the trim.

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<v Speaker 1>And as far as the holes are concerned, bondo not spackle,

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<v Speaker 1>not caulking to fill the holes. Bondo, the epoxy based

575
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<v Speaker 1>the mix, the catalyst and the putty together, smooth it over,

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<v Speaker 1>leave it high, and then give it a little sanding

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<v Speaker 1>once it dries in all of five to ten minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>Give it a little sane to sand it smooth Bondo. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>like the automotive autobody Bondo stuff. That is the gold

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<v Speaker 1>standard when it comes to exterior durable hole and crack patching.

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<v Speaker 2>How's that rick, Yeah, that sounds a pretty good, Dean,

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<v Speaker 2>and it is the dark benderboard unfortunately, so it does

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<v Speaker 2>attract the UV's and all that fun stuff. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that gives us a good start there. I was even

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<v Speaker 2>thinking since you mentioned that bondo, would it be like

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<v Speaker 2>putting a thin coat of the bondo across because it's

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<v Speaker 2>about three inches wide, and then having the primer adhere

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<v Speaker 2>to that a little bit better? Or just go right

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<v Speaker 2>into the primer you're saying, and then go with the paint.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you know what, that's a really creative idea

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm not against it. I'm not against that idea

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<v Speaker 1>at all, but it may not be necessary. Here's what

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<v Speaker 1>I recommend. I know, I can tell you for a

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<v Speaker 1>fact that that that those high quality paints will will

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<v Speaker 1>bond to the bondo. Absolutely, it's a given. Bondo is

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<v Speaker 1>made in part for that kind of adhesion of paint.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why they use it on autobody stuff. But here's

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<v Speaker 1>what I would do. I would go to your local

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<v Speaker 1>Benjamin More retailer, Adelina Paints or whatever is nearby in

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<v Speaker 1>your area. Take a section, take a go, get a

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<v Speaker 1>piece of that of that venderboard stuff, take it into

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<v Speaker 1>them and say, here's my problem. All my windows are

603
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<v Speaker 1>trimmed with this stuff. What's going to stick to it?

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<v Speaker 1>And the thing that you get, the thing that you

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<v Speaker 1>get at a professional paint store like a Benjamin More retailer,

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<v Speaker 1>is you get real paint professionals behind the counter, not

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<v Speaker 1>the person who was trained. You know, like I said

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<v Speaker 1>earlier in the show, you know, I got nothing against

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<v Speaker 1>people who work at Forever twenty one, but not when

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<v Speaker 1>i'm you know, they were working there last month and

611
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<v Speaker 1>now they've got about six hours of training on the

612
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<v Speaker 1>color mixing machine and that's it. They don't know how

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<v Speaker 1>to paint a house. And so that's why I send

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<v Speaker 1>you to a pro paint store because you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>get that advice and you're gonna have you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>get the old guy out of the back who's like

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<v Speaker 1>looking at and like, you know, this looks like and

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<v Speaker 1>they're going to figure out how to get paint to

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<v Speaker 1>adhere to that. I promise you. So I know I'm

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<v Speaker 1>pointing you in the right direction. I just don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to absolutely tell you oh for sure, it's it's a

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<v Speaker 1>grillic one hundred percent and no problem. Take that sample in,

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<v Speaker 1>let them look at it, have a conversation with them.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they're going to point you in the same

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<v Speaker 1>direction as well, and then take it from there. Rick,

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for the call, buddy, really really good call. This

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<v Speaker 1>is why we take calls, because we end up with

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<v Speaker 1>such interesting questions and answers that help everybody along the way.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, here's the deal. When we come back, we're

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<v Speaker 1>diving back into the world of color, and I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to give you the solutions that you are looking for,

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<v Speaker 1>the ways to get your arms around color in your home.

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